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Hello there, my name's Valencio, the resident voice over man here at Studio Channel 84.

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A little birdie tells me that there may be particular individuals that want, and I quote,

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less bullshit at the start of the Untitled Trek show.

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Well, I'm terribly sorry to disappoint you, but we have about 12 minutes of bullshit coming up, especially for you.

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Please bear in mind that today's episode is recorded remotely.

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Sounds you may hear include, but are not limited to, bumps, shuffles, digital noise, kitchen cutlery, farting, dog barking, and minor BDSM.

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Now, sit back, relax, and enjoy today's episode.

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Space. The final frontier.

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These are the voyages of the starship, Shichou.

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Its continuing mission, to explore strange new worlds.

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To seek out new life and new civilizations.

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To boldly go where no one has gone before.

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The impossible…

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Fuck this I can't be arsed any more.

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I bloody ruined it.

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Fucking Tom, you filthy little bastard.

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Stupid fucking Tom.

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You know, you probably shouldn't do that.

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Why?

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I don't really have a good reason. It just creeps me out.

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What do you think it is?

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I don't know. It just looks like a giant tube of purple gas to me.

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Sometimes it kind of looks like something's in there, but maybe my eyes are just playing tricks on me.

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Maybe you should stop staring at it.

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Anyway, come and sit down. You've been super quiet all day. What's wrong?

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You haven't heard?

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Well, that's a fucking stupid question, isn't it? There's shitloads I haven't heard.

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I didn't hear my alarm this morning. I didn't hear you take a crap this morning.

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No, wait, that's a lie. I did. I didn't hear the tree fall down in the woods.

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We have trees?

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No, Rob. It's a saying. Like, if a tree falls down in the woods and there's no one around to hear it, did it make a sound?

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Where have we got trees? Dex-ix?

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No, you're such an idiot sometimes. It's about things making noises when you aren't around.

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Can you show me where the trees are, please?

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Shut up, you twat.

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Alright, bloody hell. I just want to see where these noisy trees are you keep going on about.

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Wait, shit. The Arboretum's on Deck 19. I'll take you for walkies later. Just look, mate. Tell me what's wrong.

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It's Ensign Corr.

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What about him?

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I can't believe you haven't heard. I'm really sorry to be the one to have to tell you.

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Right, hang on. No, you're worrying me now. What?

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He died yesterday.

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Fuck! How? No, wait. I bet he was pissing around with that idiot Ensign Stiles again. If I told him once, I told him a hundred times, don't play with Trilupian candle swabs when playing poker with a dinkle snapper.

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I know! I kept telling him the same thing, but did he listen?

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No!

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Anyway, that's not it.

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So, what was it?

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He teleported, didn't he?

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Teleport? Firstly, it's transported, not teleported. And secondly, so what?

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What do you mean, so what?

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Well, was he holding an orchid?

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No.

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Yellow ore on his boots?

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No.

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Oh, I know. Was it an energy distortion field, causing the creation of a doppelganger who gets left on a planet for eight years and now discovered again, but is actually now evil and murdered him?

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Oddly specific, but no again.

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Well?

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I told you, he used a teleporter.

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Transporter! And so bloody what?

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It kills you, doesn't it?

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No, it doesn't.

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Yes, it does.

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Well, okay, sometimes it does, but not all the time. And I saw him this morning having coffee with Ensign Flower.

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You saw the new court, not the old court, not the cool, handsome, used to be in a banned court.

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You, my friend, have been staring at the purple smoke thing for too long.

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He used a teleporter yesterday. That means he is dead.

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No, it means he transported his molecular structure from one place to another.

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No, he got control seed, deleted, then control Veed. It is not the same.

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Yes, it is.

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Dude, if I walked through that door, I'm still me, but on the other side. If I teleport as a new me over there, it's not the same me, it's a different me.

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I might look the same, I might sound the same, I might act the same.

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God forbid.

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But the person on the other side is not me. It's a copy, a fake. A fake of a fake of a fake of a fake to the power of how many times I'd said,

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Computer, teleport me to the next room.

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Affirmative.

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Shit.

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So hang, let me get this straight. So you think that when someone is transported from one place to another, the person that comes out of the other side is a completely different person?

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How the fuck should I know? I'm only thirty seconds old.

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Finally. Right, the news is on. Apparently they have that Android guy. What's his name?

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Valencia.

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Oh, that's it. Valencia. Reporting on the protests over on Deep Space Nine, I think, regarding the cancellation of Lower Decks.

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Oh, old me loved that show.

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Hello Starfleet. Growing tensions at the Save the Lower Decks rally today. We take you there now live to our resident Deep Space Nine correspondent, Valencia.

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Valencia, how's it looking over there?

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Thank you, Rachel. It's absolute pandemonium here on the station. Protests have started escalating and security teams have now been mobilized to help keep the peace.

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Whilst the protests seemed to be peaceful at first, tensions soon rose as quarks started selling Klingon Chechluth at Bywon Get One One Quarter Free.

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I was able to meet with Admiral Chesters here earlier today and here's what she had to say on the matter.

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Admiral Chesters, welcome.

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Hello, Valencia. Lovely to see you again.

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And you, Admiral. Thank you for giving your time to speak with us today.

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Of course.

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Now, Admiral, not one to shy away from some of your recent controversies, it's good to see you come out and speak to us openly on what appears to be a very unpopular decision from Starfleet.

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Controversies?

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Oh, well, the Pomfah incident at the Starfleet Inclusion Seminar you were hosting on Delta IV, the failed Tribbles for Teens initiative, the Cardassian Four Lights ceremony you held on Vulcan and-

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Thank you, Valencia. I get the point. But I still stand by my Tribbles for Teens initiative.

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Teaching young members of our community to look after lower life forms is an integral part of their learning.

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Admiral, half of Nimbus III had to be evacuated for the safety of the planet's inhabitants.

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As you'll know, I've been quite open about my disagreement to that course of action. Now, please, let's get back to the matter at hand, shall we?

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Absolutely. Now, it's been well documented that the popular docuseries, Lower Decks, which follows the everyday happenings of Starfleet personnel on the Starship Cerritos, has become one of the most streamed entertainment programs of all time.

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Can you explain to our viewers the reasoning behind Starfleet's intervention in the filming of the series, and why you have come to the decision to force the docuseries to cancel their future filming schedule?

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Great question. Now, it wasn't an easy decision for any of us. No one loves a good TV show more than me. But you have to understand, a security threat show like this poses in these terribly uncertain times. It's just astronomical.

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Please, everyone, let's keep this civil. Now, Admiral, is it true that the real reason for the show being shut down isn't only due to a vote by the Council of the Federations of Planets or to any perceived form of security risk, but more that, in fact, on that very show, you were caught on camera in the background, fraternizing with an ensign?

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Excuse me, Valencio, but you do realize there is no evidence to prove that that person on camera was actually me.

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Am I correct in saying, though, Admiral, that you were, in fact, stationed briefly on the Cerritos during filming whilst getting return transportation from your shore leave on the Planet Riser?

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I'm afraid that information is classical.

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Please, everyone, keep it down. Admiral, surely you can understand the frustration people are having over what is a blatant misuse of power.

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Get your hands off of it!

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Please, please, everyone, just calm down!

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Security! Security!

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Bloody hell.

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What did they expect? Lower Decks is brilliant.

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I know, there just isn't anything like it. Who'd have thought a documentary following the daily lives of a Lower Decks crew on a starship could be so entertaining?

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Always made me proud to be a Lower Decker myself.

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Same.

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Well, at least now, with the show being cancelled, Tendi might have time to respond to your messages.

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One can dream.

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Maybe cut it down to a couple of weeks, though. Don't want to come across as desperate.

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Yeah, I think you're right.

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Ensign Tom, please report to Councillor Bensley for your scheduled session.

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Ugh.

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What do you need a councillor for?

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It's mandatory. After that incident with the gelatinized glute becoming sentient when being exposed to Neelix's Alpha Quadrant Worm Surprise from the Replicator.

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Oh yeah, sorry about that.

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Anyone exposed to that pink residue has to undergo three hours of PTSD assessment.

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I didn't get off of that!

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That's probably because you didn't have one of its tendrils shoved down your throat and undo your flies from the inside of your trousers.

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Oh dear god.

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Exactly. Right. Well, I'm off. Do me a favour. Move that glass. I'm getting anxious with you leaving it at the edge of the table like that.

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Anyway, hang on. Who let you have a glass anyway? You always break them. I thought you were banned.

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Oh, stop being such a fuddy-duddy. It's not my fault Starfleet can't just make a normal mug. They have to make these stupidly elaborate things with these tiny baby handles.

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See you in a mo'.

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Ugh, this is boring. Where are my headphones?

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Ah, there they are.

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Fuck bollocks!

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Shit! Can't let Tom see this. Where's the mop?

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Containment breach. All security personnel to Deck 13. All non-essential staff, please return to your quarters until further notice.

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Oh bollocks!

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Oh, did you press record TJ?

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Have you remembered to unmute Karen?

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I meant to unmute Karen? I thought she was just there and we just didn't speak about that.

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I've been here the whole time. I don't know what you're talking about.

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Shit, I didn't mute her, did I? Oh dear.

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It's meant to be the voice in our heads, the conscience.

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Oh God!

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That keeps us on track, keeps the politics out.

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That really could explain a lot.

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She was in charge of the beep machine in that episode the other time.

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She had to go home early that day because her hand just hurt from all the time she had to keep pressing the buzzer.

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Repetitive strain injury. It's been a long time since I've had RSI from pushing the button.

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I always got the laugh track.

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Right, this is a serious podcast. This is the Untitled Trek show. None of this variety show nonsense.

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All your messing around and comedy bits. This is serious stuff here. We talk about serious things.

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Are you super serious?

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Such as? We'll start with Karen. We always start with Tia. We always leave Karen till last. This week we'll go Karen, what sci-fi have you indulged in this fortnight?

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Well, I have actually spent, I'd forgotten about this when you texted me yesterday to ask and I only remembered this morning.

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I actually spent about six hours watching Mystery Science Theatre on YouTube over the weekend.

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What a show.

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You know when there's nothing else to stream and you've caught up on everything you can guarantee a good laugh from Mystery Science Theatre. It's brilliant.

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It was Robot Holocaust was the one that I watched from start to finish. Absolute classic.

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I can't remember. Is that the new Netflix version or is that the original?

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So they do like a foreverathon on YouTube. This was a Joel episode so it was one of the older ones but with Larry so like this 91-ish era I think.

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Brilliant.

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But yeah, really good. Loved it. Always good for a giggle.

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But it was like He-Man running around in his little skimpy man leotard made of animal skin. Then there was some weird Amazonian women that didn't trust men and they lived in a post-apocalyptic Holocaust landscape where robots had taken over and the dark one was in charge.

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There's a whole future armor episode based on that.

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Is there?

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Yeah, they crash land on the planet. They find the Amazonian women and the Amazonian women are led by the evil...

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Snoo Snoo!

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It's the Snoo Snoo one.

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It's Snoo Snoo!

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Yeah, death by Snoo Snoo.

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Death by Snoo Snoo!

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I want to go watch future armor now.

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I don't think there was much Snoo Snoo in Robot Holocaust. Lots of scantily clad people though. Male and female.

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Come on Tom. We've been watching. Sorry. We're remote recording aren't we so you might hear noises in the background for everybody.

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Only sci-fi I have watched this week and last week. I've finally watched... well I say finally it's only just come out. I've watched the first episode of Doctor Who. The new Doctor Who.

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We're half way through.

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Which really threw me because if you go to IMDB it's not under Doctor Who. It's under Doctor Who.

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What?

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Yeah, so I was expecting to go into the Doctor Who IMDB profile, scroll to like series 17 or 18, whatever it was up to, and see the new episodes there.

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No, they've just restarted it as its own Doctor Who page. There's now two Doctor Who entries.

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Right.

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I'm guessing it's to do with Disney. But anyway, I watched the first episode. I enjoyed it.

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I think that's pretty much all I'm going to say about it because I know we're going to talk about it in the Variety Show episode.

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I enjoyed it. I'm going to leave it at that. I'm not going to be too negative because there are a couple of bits I'm thinking I would have liked to see.

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But yeah, that's the only sci-fi I've done. Unless you consider Garfield at the cinema sci-fi.

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No, I don't.

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Good, that's a bit of shit.

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Which Garfield is it? Is it a new one?

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It's a new Garfield film.

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Okay.

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With everybody's favourite current voice actor Chris Pratt playing Garfield.

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Yeah, there's that meme isn't there that Chris Pratt's ruining everyone's childhood, isn't there?

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He was not a bad Super Mario.

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He was a great Super Mario. I thought he got a lot of stick. And I didn't mind him in the Lego movie either.

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Oh, I love the Lego movie. I will not accept any bad words about the Lego movie. Everything is fucking awesome.

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That's the R rated version of that song, is it?

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Everything is fucking awesome.

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Alright, that's happening.

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Yeah, okay. That's the next song.

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Yeah, we're going to talk about, I think you just said, we're going to talk more about Doctor Who on the Variety Show.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I'm halfway through it. I'm really enjoying what I have. And as the experience you've had on 9DB, I couldn't find it on the iPlayer.

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I literally wrote Doctor Who and it wasn't coming up.

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Oh, that's weird because I went to Disney Plus because I'd been told it was on Disney and it's not on Disney Plus, but I found it on iPlayer straight away.

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Yeah, I went on the iPlayer, but it wasn't front and centre on there.

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No.

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I had to search for Doctor Who and even then it wasn't the first. It kept just showing me all the David Tennant ones.

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I was like, well, no, I want to watch the new ones.

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And yeah, the first half an hour, really have enjoyed it. I think I'm going to really like this guy.

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It really helps, especially when I saw him as a Ken in Barbie.

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That made me really happy. Oh, that's the Doctor Who. Brilliant.

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And I think I might have said in the Variety Show, I really love the special that they did with him, but you know, I'm a sucker for a musical and there's some singing and stuff in it.

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Yeah, I think that's really the only sci-fi. Oh, no, that's a lie.

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Well, that tells you how much I'm going to enjoy this one. The second part of Rebel Moon, part two.

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I've not seen the first. Have you seen it, Karen? Yeah, I have.

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You've finished the second part. Yeah. What did you think?

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Is it Star Wars? Yeah, is this Star Wars? Yeah, I get that feeling. Yeah.

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I mean, it was beautiful. It was beautiful.

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Like, you know, the special effects and everything was amazing.

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And, you know, who doesn't love a story about rebels trying to fight away the evil dark forces and yada yada. It was all right.

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You know, I don't think I've recommended it to anybody. That's probably not a very good review.

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I mean, it was pretty to watch.

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I feel exactly the same and the same with the first part. I was like, I enjoyed it while watching it.

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And then it was done. I had no clue that the second was out until we were on Netflix and there it was.

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Oh, well, this is just randomly come out. They're not doing a third part, are they?

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I mean, I haven't finished the second one yet. I don't know.

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I suppose it's open ended enough to make a third one, especially considering how the first episode is it Zack Snyder?

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Is it Zack Snyder? Finished? Yeah. Yeah. So no, there won't be a third one.

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There'll be a first one called the Zack Snyder. It will be black and white and a few extra hours added to it.

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It might look good in black and white, to be fair.

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Who knows? But it's interesting you say about is this Star Wars? Because, you know, when Rob's seen it, I don't know if you've seen it, the creator.

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No. Really good. Loved it. Absolutely phenomenal film. Tugs the heartstrings at point. I cried. Yeah. So good.

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But when I saw all the adverts for it, all I was thinking is, well, you know how they did Rogue One, a Star Wars story is the creator a Star Wars story as well, because it looked so much like the modern Star Wars, how they've done the modern Star Wars and the design of it was just all so familiar.

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Yeah. I mean, the creator is just and that is top tier sci fi is such a good movie. I don't know how critically acclaimed it was, but you know, we don't ever follow that stuff anyway.

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But yeah, I never thought I'd blubber at a CGI character. And there I was. Just crying my eyes out at a robot.

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The one that I hate was the bomb bots. Yeah, they were. No, no, no. Yeah, let's not ruin it for Karen. That can be Karen's favourite. Go and watch the creator. I don't know what is it on Disney? It's a Disney Plus. Yeah.

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Okay, it's Disney Plus. So it's on there. Yeah, that's a super duper one. And that's the end of the Untitled Trek show. Thanks, everybody. Thanks for tuning into the Lower Decks special. Last week we talked about the Orville. This week we talked about everything else but Star Trek.

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So, as I just mentioned, this is the Lower Decks special. And as you're all aware, Paramount have come out and said that season five will be the last season.

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So, I know that we said on the last episode that we're going to do a Christian episode. If anybody listened after the credits, which I always tell you to do until you hear that beep, it's not over.

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Voice over man. Valencio is actually the voice over man's name and he's had his name, he had a name drop in the short that you would have heard at the start this episode. He would have told you that actually it was Lower Decks special this time around.

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So here we are. We have an interview coming up later in the show with some of the people who are running the Facebook group for Save the Lower Decks. So we'll pop that in later. But for now, Karen, Tom.

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Rob. Tell me what you like about Lower Decks. What is so cool about Lower Decks that we're like, oh, we're really sad. Well, you know what, Karen, she never stops talking in this show. So let's let Karen go first.

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To edit Karen out, it's such a nightmare. It's just so much audio tracks to do.

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I love everything about Lower Decks. I love the fact that it's animated and that gives the show producers so much, I don't know, leeway and scope to go with any storyline they want. It doesn't matter how good you CGI special effects are.

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There are just limitations to using real life human beings in a live action recorded filmed anything. And you can, you know, the world is what the universe is your oyster with animation, you can draw whatever comes into your imagination. There's no holes barred, no limits.

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Yeah. And also it's very, very funny. Yeah, that helps, isn't it? I mean, as I mentioned for you later, it really rekindled my love for Star Trek. In particular, we'll get on to favorite episodes later, but the Tuvix episode, which is season four, episode one.

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I don't know if you've been able to see season four, Karen or not, but it's a Voyager episode. Yeah, I'm sure I've seen season four.

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And I only say that because I got super confused earlier when I went to watch it and I didn't realize I was on Amazon Prime and it kept trying to get me to pay. I'm not paying, I think just taking Lower Decks away from me. What's happening?

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I nearly text you. So I'm like, why the f**k can't I watch Lower Decks? And then I was like, oh, I'm on Amazon. I'm not on the right app.

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But it was on Amazon. I watched season one and two on Amazon Prime. That's where I watched it too. I think season three might have gone over to Paramount Plus.

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Was that when they released their app maybe? Yeah. Yeah. But it's just all of the, it's just the guys who write that, they really love Star Trek.

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You can just tell in every single moment of that show, it's just written, drawn, acted with pure love for the entire universe. And you just know that, or at least the impression you get is that they don't just have like a dictionary next to them, the Star Trek encyclopedia.

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They've watched them. They know what people like, what people find funny, all the little niche memes on Star Trek, and it's all in there. And every episode they seem to manage to get something in.

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And you go, and you're just like, oh, oh, oh. I mean, it was really like the Lower Decks episode where they've got Deep Space Nine, it made me want to watch Deep Space Nine, which isn't something I normally want to do.

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But as I said, yeah, that Voyager one really was just like, oh, this is just, this is just pure class, this stuff.

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Yeah. And you know what, for me, it was, other than the fact it was something new, which I'm always really wary of, especially when it's a franchise that I love as much as Trek, but Lower Decks kind of came in and it was just so new and unusual.

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And then funny, and it had characters that you genuinely adhere to and start to really like and want to be part of what's going on. You want to be a Lower Decker yourself in it.

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I just fell in love with it immediately. And like Carolyn was saying, the ability of it to go anywhere it wants, being animated, meant they could go a little bit crazy.

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I mean, you could imagine a moopsy appearing in Discovery. They wouldn't call it a moopsy because Discovery wouldn't dare call something as silly as a moopsy a moopsy.

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And in fact, they did. They had the weird alien, didn't they, that was living in the Captain's Quarters in season one.

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But the ability to just be silly with it and really go comedic slapstick with it as well just took it to a different level. And then going with what you were saying, Rob, with the fact that they obviously aren't just writing what they're told and have a general idea about Star Trek.

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The fact that you even get you get the idea that they love Star Trek and it just all molds itself into that perfect cacophony of good Trek. As rude and as funny as it is, it's still Trek in its kind of genetics.

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It's still exactly what you want from Trek. And I wouldn't change it for the world.

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And what what's great about it when they do the they did that crossover episode didn't they with Strange New Worlds?

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Fantastic. Have you seen it?

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We told him I were really worried that when the characters moved over to straight, they were going to like call out on the whole thing being a cartoon and like an alternate universe and just really kind of excuse me, play down lower decks, but they didn't. They just like they made a joke.

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They didn't go over anything that looks so real or something. There was like a little joke and then that was it. And it just kind of left you with the understanding of that lower decks is canon. This dumb ass world that they're, you know, they're caricaturing a lot of it.

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But it's in the same universe as 100% and the confusion from the Strange New Worlds team who, bearing in mind with the age of the Enterprise and the age of the Federation at that point, they wouldn't really have lower decks because everyone was kind of in the same boat, weren't they?

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They were kept in having a nice quarters. Everyone was kind of in that boat of the lower decks at that point. So the idea that there's this entire group of people that call themselves the lower deckers.

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Yeah, just absolutely brilliant. It just worked so, so well.

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Yeah, that episode in particular was, it was a Strange New World episode wasn't it?

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Yeah, it was a Strange New Worlds episode. Yep. I'm going to say it was either episode two or three of the last season.

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Yeah, they, I'm sure in the lower decks they made a little comment about it in a turbo lift or something, didn't they? They were like, oh, we're not meant to talk about that. And then that was kind of like, yeah, that was like, yeah, it's brilliant.

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Well, what, do you have like a favourite episode, do you think? Or was there like an episode, maybe not so much you've got favourites, but one that you like to go back and watch or you quote from more than others or when you think, you know, you're trying to introduce somebody into watching it, what's the one you go, go watch this one?

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Are you asking Tom or me?

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Either of you.

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Well, go on, you go first, Karen.

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Are we going with the same round robin?

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No.

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Favourite episode. So I'm not going to be able to sit here and say, oh, season one, episode three, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, because I've only ever watched all of them through once.

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I don't have Paramount Plus. So if I want to watch them, I need to go to somebody else's house.

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Which, you know, is, is just that.

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I don't know. I mean, following the whole team, you know, Mariner, Boimler, Tendi, everyone else go through their trials and tribulations, the processes of growing into themselves as people and characters, I find that really interesting.

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But I think maybe the episode where Boimler is first in charge of an away mission and he goes into like mad panic because he's worried about being in charge, but he's excited about being in charge.

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But then when he gets to the planet and all hell starts breaking loose, he has to do everything because he doesn't want anyone else to get hurt.

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He doesn't want someone else to lose their life and it be his responsibility.

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And I think is it Mariner that gives him a bit of a slap around the face in the end and just says to him, look, you know, you need to delegate.

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You need to do this and you're not going to get out of this situation if you don't work as a team.

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And, you know, that that scenario could happen to any of us in any day of in our lives.

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We don't have to be watching lava fall out of the sky and be worried about carrying battery canisters or whatever it was he was carrying.

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I can't remember now. I'm so sorry.

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But yeah, that's the episode where they're racing against the other.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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The other lower deckers and they turned out those lower deckers are actually of the Cerritos instead.

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Yeah. Yeah. The Cerritos. Like the coolest ship in the game.

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That is a really good episode.

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The lackey that's always up on what's his face, his arse basically gets kind of hit by one of the orbs they drop, doesn't he? And he gets just everything goes wrong at that point.

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Yeah. So I don't know. I just. Yeah.

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I think watching him grow into more than just the nervous Boimler that we're all used to seeing and, you know, the character growth in that.

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And him developing a bit of confidence in himself and his ability to trust people he's working with that may not be Mariner on the day.

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Yeah, that's that's one that sticks with me. But, you know, Moopsy I will forever love.

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Yeah, Moopsy is great. I've got that on my list. I can tell you that season four episode two.

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I think it's something is it called I have no bones, but I walk or something.

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I have no bones, something, something. Yeah, that's the zoo one with the Moopsy. That's a really good one.

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With us when we saw on the big screen.

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It was. Yeah, we saw. Yeah, we saw episode one and two.

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Season four, which I've got them both down as my favorite ones because they I think maybe it helps that we saw it together on that big screen.

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But yeah, episode one of season four is the two Vicks one.

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And just again, it starts as a normal job beginning, but after the intro, it's got Boimler emptying the holiday canisters and he drops one.

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And he gets covered in green gunk all over his legs.

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Little things. I love them. And then they get to go to the Voyager and they're like, like Mariners, like really like overexcited on the bridge about it and just like like turning yourself to go, oh, no, no, no.

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Yeah, yeah. And even everywhere they're walking around and they're going about the Elix cheese and one of them says it smells like the Borg on the ship.

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You got the Orchid and the Newt, the Holodeck characters walking around.

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All the little bits they've kind of thrown into it. Yeah, it just makes the episode.

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Yeah, I mean, Voyager, everyone knows Voyager, but basically my favorite one.

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So to have a whole episode of well, my favorite one before Lower Decks. So to have my current favorite Star Trek doing a dedicated episode to my previous favorite Star Trek, you know, that was great for me.

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And obviously, as we said, the Moopsie one's brilliant.

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There's also season two episode nine.

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I don't know how to pronounce this. Wedgedudge is what the episode is called. W-E-J-D-U-J. It's the Bridge Buddy one.

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Oh, yes. If you remember that, where he's going, Boilma's going around trying to get a new Bridge Buddy.

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It goes and shows you the Lower Decks on the Klingon ships and it goes to Lower Decks on the Vulcan one.

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And then that other race, I don't know what their names are. The dumb ones who just steal everyone's tech.

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Packlids. Yeah, the Packlids. And then it ends in the credits on the Borg Lower Decks and it's just four characters just charging up on the wall.

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Yeah, that's a really good one. I enjoyed that one.

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For me, sorry, it's season two episode eight.

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All right, all right. I'm the only one who didn't do my homework. Thanks for making me feel welcome.

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This is where you get muted.

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It's got to be I, Excretus for me, just because the amount of trick they squeeze into that episode.

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The constant failing of all of Lower Decks, just to like failing all of the tasks that have been set of them.

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Then you've got Boimler succeeding.

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I converted the Borg Queen. I've done all of this and you want me to go again. Now you want me to lose.

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It's just such a...

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What's the best way to say it? It takes all of the really kind of deep dive trek bits that people will remember from TNG, from Deep Space Nine, from everything really.

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And it just puts them into that one episode. And I've just was 100% there for it.

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I've gone back and watched it three or four times now and it gets better every time I watch it because yet again something else pops up that I just didn't spot before.

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And then you've got Shaxx and Tiana at some point basically having sex in the corridor or coming out into the corridor.

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It's like, oh yeah, I forgot those two are kinky together.

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It is the trickiest episode, definitely.

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Oh, 100%.

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I think this is a good opportunity that we should insert the interview.

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Karen, do a noise.

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Accessing library computer data.

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I'm starting already.

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I did that on purpose, sorry.

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Hello everyone and welcome to the first interview of the Untitled Trek show.

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And with us we have our usual Karen, who's always here all the time.

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Hello Karen. Hiya, been here all the time. You just haven't been recording me.

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And Tom. Hello Tom. Hello.

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Tom had to be here unfortunately, it's a shame really, but there we are.

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And we have a lovely guest here with us today from the Save the Lower Decks campaign on Facebook and I'm sure other places that we're here about.

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Ben, how are you doing Ben? I'm doing well.

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Thank you for joining us. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for having me.

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Yeah, welcome, my pleasure.

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So are we handing the ropes over to Karen for this bit? Yeah, go on Karen.

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Okay, all right. My first big interview.

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No, you always do all the talking Karen, we can never shut you up.

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Look, I can say what I want because up until now when I want to say the word that I've said, so I can pretend I never get a say.

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Don't worry Rob, I've got the power of the mute button. If we need to, we can cut her off.

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So mean, so mean.

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Well anyway, so Rob has introduced everybody. Thank you very much. Ben, as I've said already, it's an absolute pleasure to have you here.

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I came across you guys randomly on Facebook whilst doing the usual, can I find more Star Trek stuff to talk about and read about and just enjoy.

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And discovered the Save Lower Decks campaign.

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Most people that follow Trek know that Paramount have made what in my personal humble opinion is a dreadful decision.

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Boo, boo, boo, to cancel Lower Decks after season five is complete. I think that's the current news.

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So Ben, you and a group of like minded people have gotten together and started this campaign.

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So tell us a bit about yourself and what your aims and hopes are.

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Sure. I'm Ben.

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Wow, just as soon as it comes to me.

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So, yeah, we are like, a lot of us didn't even know each other before this and we just kind of all formed together with the single goal in mind of trying to save Lower Decks.

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Because originally, I found them because I started doing, I went to a Star Trek convention, it was DNIcon in Philadelphia and Kate McRule was there and she was on stage and mentioned about how Prodigy got saved.

375
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And it was due to like, like part of it was there was a campaign where people raised funds to hire a pilot to fly a banner over top of like the major streaming studios that said save Prodigy, save Star Trek Prodigy.

376
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:37,000
I'm just going to stop you there. They've saved Prodigy as I've completely missed that news then.

377
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I know it was cancelled and it was a really disappointing cancel and I must show Robert at some point because it was again, brilliant animated Trek that made it just like normal Trek open to everyone, except this time, little people as well.

378
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:59,000
And it had so much going for it and to hear it was cancelled, disgusting, but you're saying it's been saved now.

379
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Yes, Netflix bought it. Winner. And it happened two weeks after the banners flew over their headquarters and I was trying to do it on my own.

380
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I started trying to fundraiser, but it wasn't getting much traction. But then these guys, the group approached me, invited me in and we were going to do that.

381
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:40,000
But then we saw Brandon Williams from is the director of season five of Lower Decks posted online saying, hey, why don't all the fans get together, hire all the Star Trek actors on cameo and do a super cut of all of them doing the lower decks chant.

382
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And then like, literally, we just completely shifted gears and that found a lot of traction and we started raising money for it. And, you know, we're also doing other things from that.

383
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Like we've been doing watch parties where we've had people in the group all at the same time watching lower decks to kind of boost their numbers.

384
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:11,000
And I think, in fact, we actually caused the Paramount servers to crash twice, which was kind of awesome. That's very cool. It wasn't intended.

385
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But, you know, we just want to show Paramount that people really care about this show and love it because it's like it was intended for seven seasons or more is what they had suggested.

386
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So, you know, to see it go without a proper ending is, you know, is sad for me.

387
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So, yeah. So we're just trying to, you know, keep it alive as well as we can.

388
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And there's also been a history of Star Trek shows being saved by fan campaigns like the original series, like season three was brought on by, was brought back from a fan campaign and then we saw Prodigy and now we're trying to do that with lower decks.

389
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And I see some hope, but, you know, we'll have to see if our efforts pay off or not.

390
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See, the biggest thing I don't understand about all of this is literally last year, Rob and I got hold of tickets to go and see the lower deck season three premiere, where they hosted across the world, several cinemas in big cities, go and see the first two episodes, go and see an old episode and what's coming up.

391
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And the love in that room was massive and the excitement and there were paramount people there that could see that.

392
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And just for them to kind of completely kind of ignore that walk away and go, yeah, that's probably not enough love for it really.

393
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Just, it baffles me. Absolutely baffles me.

394
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You know, they were filming it too, weren't they? Photographers filming it and it was a fairly decent sized screen full of people, everyone chanting lower decks. It was brilliant.

395
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Maybe it's all those bags of goodies that have made the franchise, franchise birth.

396
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All those enamel pin badges you all walked home with.

397
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Possibly.

398
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Rob and Tom have ended lower decks.

399
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I mean, what do you think is the real reason why paramount are dropping lower decks?

400
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I can only really speculate, but I think I think that that's because paramount's losing money right now.

401
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And I don't think I think Paramount Plus is not doing particularly well.

402
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And I know they're trying to sell to Sony and Apollo.

403
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:42,000
I think the planning on breaking up, I think I saw Paramount, CBS and Paramount Plus.

404
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I don't I don't know the exact business plan that they're trying to do, but I just I don't know.

405
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:56,000
I kind of feel like Trek, Star Trek is like a little bit in trouble, it seems like, because we're losing Discovery.

406
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,000
And, you know, we're like, we almost lost Prodigy.

407
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,000
And now it's probably like potentially lower decks.

408
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:08,000
So I don't I don't know what the future is for Star Trek at this point, because we just have strange new worlds.

409
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:14,000
And then I guess we do have Starfleet Academy coming eventually.

410
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:24,000
Yeah. And then I think there's the I'm not sure if it's still a movie that was it Section 31 movie.

411
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:30,000
Oh, yeah. With Michelle Yeoh. No, wrong name. No, right. Yeah, that is the right name.

412
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,000
No, unlike me to pull a name out and actually be correct.

413
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I doubted myself. They're all spin offs from Discovery, though, right?

414
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,000
Is that right? The Michelle Yeoh one's going to be on Discovery.

415
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I don't know the premise of Starfleet Academy other than it's probably going to involve new recruits.

416
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:53,000
Yeah. Yeah. Red Squad.

417
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,000
It will be a new generation of Starfleet Academy members, won't it?

418
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That we're going to follow up through whatever they choose to do, whether it's going to be in the kin of of Wesley Starfleet Academy

419
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or are they going to go future for the Discovery? I'm not entirely sure. I've not seen much on it.

420
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,000
It's been a bit of a quietly talked about thing.

421
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:23,000
I don't think it's really kind of had much impetus put behind it yet.

422
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:29,000
But it does seem you're right. We do seem to be running out of Trek, which is a concern.

423
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Now, obviously, everyone here is a Trek fan and we know how much comfort it can be in sitting yourself down

424
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and watching an episode from one of the many seasons of the many Trek iterations that exist.

425
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:50,000
I mean, for me, as we've discussed in the podcast before, my safe space is the next generation.

426
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I could watch that over and over again. If I'm having a bad mental health day and I just need to watch something that,

427
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A, I know what's going to happen and B, I enjoy and C, makes me feel safe.

428
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:10,000
I'll put on the next generation. I'll put something on from season five and sit back and just veg out to it.

429
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:16,000
It just feels like the current generations especially are missing out.

430
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:21,000
They've had Discovery, which was a very different Trek to what we'd had before.

431
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:28,000
The closest thing I can think of, and again, feel free to disagree with that, is Discovery feel very much like a

432
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,000
progression of where Deep Space Nine was going.

433
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:38,000
It was a very different form of Trek than we were used to with the original series and the next generation.

434
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:45,000
It was much darker, much grittier, whereas Discovery tried to do that and took that leap forward.

435
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:52,000
But yeah, saving Prodigy was a brilliant step, but losing Lower Decks, which I know several people have said,

436
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this is the best Trek we've had to date because it's just fun and it's something we can lose ourselves in.

437
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We've got an entire character base that we really like.

438
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I don't know what they're going to do if they do keep on canning shows like this.

439
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Have you been approached by anyone involved with the show?

440
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I think someone in the group did get a message from Brandon Williams. I can't remember what that was.

441
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But no, we haven't been approached by any of the actors yet.

442
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I did kind of poke at them on Facebook a little bit, like Jonathan Frakes and Tim Russ,

443
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because we got to a point where I was trying to come up with something to help share the fundraising joke a little bit.

444
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And I was like, oh, we have enough money now to hire one Jonathan Frakes and half a Tim Russ.

445
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And I tagged them and it was kind of funny because I didn't want to tag all of them and be kind of desperate to talk to them.

446
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But I thought that would just be kind of a little funny joke to play.

447
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Yeah, I mean, it's been interesting as well. When I found out about this, I sent it straight on to Rob.

448
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In fact, I think, Rob, you sent it to me first, actually.

449
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Several of the main voice actors from Lower Decks were straight onto Twitter saying it's been a great ride.

450
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We're so proud of what we've made. But then they all ended their tweet saying we don't understand why this is happening.

451
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So it would be amazing to get them on board because obviously they're keen to kind of move forward with it and keep it going from the sound of it.

452
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Because they've obviously developed a love for the characters that they've gotten and they've worked hard on creating.

453
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Yeah, absolutely.

454
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:57,000
Hi, sorry. I'm just going to say Nick has joined us. Another fellow Save Lower Decks.

455
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Nick, do you want to introduce yourself?

456
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:07,000
Yeah, sorry. No, I've been listening in and I've been contributing, but apparently I wasn't a part of the conversation.

457
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I know my name is Nick. I'm the admin and owner of the Save Lower Decks Facebook group.

458
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I created it to be a little staging area where fans can come together, get on the same page, collaborate, corroborate, and get season six going because we don't need to stop at five.

459
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100%. Realistically, here's a question. It's not on our sheet, so feel free to go, oh no, we aren't worth it.

460
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:37,000
But how far do you think Lower Decks could actually go?

461
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I honestly, like I don't want to put a number on it, but it's a show that almost, it's like it really makes fun of its own IP, and so it can tap into any of the existing series, which is it's done numerous times.

462
00:50:54,000 --> 00:51:05,000
And there's just, there's really infinite possibilities. You can follow Boimler, Mariner, and the crew throughout their career. You can hop to other ships, other California class vessels.

463
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:15,000
It's just, it's, there's just, there's so many different things that you could do with it, and you could make it last as long or as little as you want.

464
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Cartoons, I know animation is not exactly the cheapest thing to produce, but it's relatively easy compared to something like Discovery with your big CG.

465
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You know, all of that extra time and effort that goes into post-production with a live action Star Trek show, so I think the sky is really the limit on what they can achieve with it.

466
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Yeah, and then also I kind of want to mention it's like a lot of these shows, they're getting like 10 episodes seasons, you know, Star Trek used to be like almost like 26 episodes.

467
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:52,000
24 episodes a season, I think DS9 was, something like that.

468
00:51:52,000 --> 00:52:08,000
Yeah, they used to very much follow what we term the American seasons, which is in the UK when we have a series, because we refuse to use the word season for some reason, when we have a TV series, it's six episodes, eight if you're lucky.

469
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But when you look at the majority of the 80s and 90s TV seasons that have come over from America over here, yeah, 24 episodes is fairly standard or a handful more on top of it.

470
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And going with what you were saying Nick as well, with it being animation, you're right, there's absolutely no end really, except for killing all the cast off.

471
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You could go massively couldn't you. There's every story under the sun.

472
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I'm guessing you guys have watched the original series, the animated series. Oh yeah. Absolutely phenomenal.

473
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It's absolutely the storylines they did that they could never have done in real life back in the late 60s, early 70s.

474
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It just worked so well and this is why Lower Decks works so well. You could do anything you so desire, because it's animated.

475
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:05,000
It's just the ideas that are needed and I feel the writing team definitely had it.

476
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:12,000
But sorry, that was a random question completely out of the left field there so I'll let Karen go on to the next one.

477
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:17,000
God, I don't even know where we are with the questions boys honestly, we're out of sync.

478
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:22,000
You'll have to cut that bit. You'll have to cut that bit. We don't cut anything.

479
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:30,000
You never cut anything of mine unless, like, you know, I beg you to. No actually you never cut anything of mine, that's a lie.

480
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:38,000
Oh dear. So what do we think the end goal is for the campaign, you know, where do you want to.

481
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I mean, you know, Nick, you said it'd be great to have more seasons and TJ just said, you know, where do you see, you know, Lower Decks go in the future.

482
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:56,000
But dream, dream case scenario, end goal for the campaign. Who would you love to have on the campaign with you to back you up?

483
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:01,000
Where do you want to end it? Where can you sign the dotted line and say, tick, we did a good job?

484
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:12,000
Yeah, so the end goal is just it's more show the cast crew show runners they've all said you know this wasn't the natural end of the day had in mind for the show.

485
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:21,000
And so really just, I mean, at the very least just getting it to play out to that whatever that means maybe they had seven seasons in mind maybe they had 10 I don't know.

486
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:29,000
But at the very least is getting the story that was meant to be told the ability to be told would be the ideal end goal.

487
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:38,000
I'm pretty I'm pretty greedy. So I'll take you know, 17 seasons in a moot see if I can get it.

488
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But at the very, very least you know just the just the story that Mike had in mind and it's just something that the cast and the crew they love doing it they love making it we as the audience love watching it.

489
00:54:50,000 --> 00:55:02,000
So it's just it seems pretty I understand they got some business woes going on over at Paramount Plus but it just, it's the 20 you know 21st century it's 2024 I feel like that's just too easy for us to figure out an alternative.

490
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:07,000
Alright, so who needs to get paid and who needs to be paying we'll just we'll figure it out make it happen and let's get more season going.

491
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:30,000
I also think like like even myself for like like part of this goal to like I have like a separate but similar goal is that I kind of just like want this to stop the cancel is cancellations of Star Trek shows like I think that that this, you know, going forward, you know, like, in a way is a way of like, you know, instructing like showing Paramount that we care.

492
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And like because you know we lost, as I was saying earlier, we lost Discovery, Prodigy was almost lost. But like I just kind of think it needs to like stop here and they need to complete stuff and you know.

493
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Yeah.

494
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Yeah, for me, my mic cut off when I could hear anything. And you know Lower Decks is like the best Star Trek that's been out for me for ages. And it really rekindled my love for the whole, the whole series of Star Trek stuff.

495
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You know, it's one of the reasons why we started the Untitled Trek show was because TJ introduced me to Lower Decks and I've been ignoring it for ages. It's just rubbing it brushing off as a cartoon.

496
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Just as just cartoon. I'm not going to be interested in us being for kids. And then, you know, TJ was like, No, you've got to watch this. And it's, it's so amazing. I'm so absolutely gutted that this potentially could be happening.

497
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:50,000
And it's really guys like, like you Nick and creating the, the page and you Ben as well you coming in and joining in and being a spokesperson and helping, helping Nick out.

498
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And it's, we need more people like you to, to push these kind of things forward. You know, and you know we'll help where we can but, you know, we just want to keep going. Like you said, Nick.

499
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No, for sure. And back to what Baron had mentioned about people we'd want supporting. Right now we're kind of we're hitting the glass ceiling for our reach across Facebook we, I think we've about taps the Star Trek groups in there and not to say that there aren't more people that could come and join from those groups, but I mean like the messages out there.

500
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People on Facebook know. Now we're trying to, we're trying to break that bubble get into like the Twitter space you know Instagram YouTube and these other social media spaces because as we can see with this upcoming watch party on the 25th I don't know if you guys have seen any promotions for that come out yet but there's one being run by the Trek Alliance.

501
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It's going to be on the 25th, but yeah they're pushing that all over Twitter. And it just it seems there's just like slight miscommunications between fans over on Twitter and over on Facebook and then over on YouTube they're saying one thing and then Twitter saying another and so we're kind of just trying to break first

502
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:13,000
that bubble get onto those other social media outlets, get people coming back towards the group so that way we can get all get on the same page so that way we're saying the same thing, instead of doing like 10 different things and none of them actually working.

503
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:24,000
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. The cohesive message is definitely the ideal way forward isn't it if you can get everyone speaking the same words then no one's gonna hear the wrong information.

504
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:38,000
The petitions are there are perfect example of that because there's, I don't even know how many petitions floating around out there for save lower decks. And I just I know like at the beginning of the group that was pretty much our main focus was figuring out the petition mess

505
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,000
and we only sort of figured it out.

506
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:54,000
But yeah, just having, you know, we have you know 10,000 signatures on this one over here 6000 on this one over here 4000 on that one over there. And then then you have those little smaller ones a couple few hundreds sprinkled throughout.

507
00:58:54,000 --> 00:59:07,000
And so just getting everybody on one petition getting everybody you know on, you know, one, one group collective fandom effort of trying to because I think we're all saying the same thing we're just not saying it at the same time so it's not as having as much impact.

508
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Yeah.

509
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:15,000
Okay, well, thank you both for joining us. It's been great speaking to you both.

510
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Where can specifically where can people find you to join in with the campaign if they want to and where can they find you both to speak to you.

511
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:43,000
So, the first one on Facebook is save lower decks, one word no space just like the hashtag save lower decks on Facebook. And then I'll let Ben tell you about this one on Twitter it's at more moopsy but it's spelled mo ar moopsy.

512
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I like it. Well what we'll also do if you have you guys got any artwork that you're using at the moment to advertise the save lower decks because if you do what we'll do is we'll put an advert up on channel at four.co.uk as well, which is our blog front and kind of production

513
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:13,000
that everyone can find everything about us. And that way anyone we push that way we'll also see it so please share that with us and anyone that needs to go to those links that can't find them.

514
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,000
Our main site will have the link as well.

515
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:26,000
We have absolutely we have a basically badgy has kind of become our like unofficial mascot that we've turned so many different things like like.

516
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:32,000
I have like Netflix see watch watch.

517
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:45,000
Go fundy. Go fundy. Yeah, like we're just beginning with can I do a quick shameless plug on that on our go fund me that we got 100% Yeah, so go fund me we kind of plateaued we've been stuck at 1600 for a little bit I want to see that getting some more

518
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:57,000
movement some more speed I know we touched on it earlier. The director Brandon's idea of getting that video that video is going to be the bat signal for the fandom so that we can get everybody kind of looking in the same spot we can get them back pulled back towards

519
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:09,000
the group hopefully getting some updates and getting some real numbers behind these petitions and these other things and we're waiting to finish this one so we can then do the sky plane idea and fly it over Netflix get their attention as well.

520
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:25,000
But first we need to get fans on the same page because when prodigy did their flyover they had 33,000 signatures as well they already had their petition 33,000 they flew the plane in a week later it was saved like yes it was saved but we still haven't heard anything about

521
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:42,000
that in 2003 so just keeping in mind that with 33,000 signatures they moved to Netflix, but so far we don't really have any news on a new season coming. And as of right now we only have like 6000 signatures so we're definitely going to want to start seeing about

522
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:56,000
getting those numbers up so that way when we are prepared and we do get that flyover set and ready to go that we can hopefully at least match or beat that. And we can see more not just you know them wanting to adopt lower decks over on another service but continue the

523
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:00,000
production the future season is moving forward. Yeah.

524
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaking of Netflix actually sorry just before we go. And they have a there's a link to suggest new shows for Netflix to pick up. I know that's going around social media. I've done my bit and put lower decks in three times for the three different options.

525
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Just to make my point.

526
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:29,000
But yeah for anyone that's not aware of that, and you can go on to Netflix and go on to this every day, every day, once a day it's a daily, do it every single day.

527
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Thank you guys.

528
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:32,000
Thank you so much.

529
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,000
Welcome. Thanks for having us. Great.

530
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,000
Thank you. Thank you.

531
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,000
You're very welcome.

532
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:44,000
Good luck with the campaign.

533
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,000
Transfer complete.

534
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,000
So, continuing on.

535
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:55,000
Who is, start with Tom this time because we always start with Karen so I think it's only right we start with Tom.

536
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,000
100%.

537
01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:02,000
We've spoke actually we have spoken about this before the idea might change favorite character.

538
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:09,000
It has changed previously I'm pretty sure I said Boimler because I can see a lot of myself in Boimler.

539
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:16,000
But the more I look at it is a real toss up between Shaxx or Dr. Tiana.

540
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:20,000
I cannot choose between the three of them.

541
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:30,000
If you said you have to get rid of a third, I'm almost tempted to get rid of Boimler because just Shaxx gets just some absolutely fantastic lines throughout the entire series.

542
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:33,000
And honestly, I'd quite happily be his baby bear.

543
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:49,000
And Dr. Tiana is just the absolute just not hatred she has for life but the whole kind of how she is just how she's portrayed and how that character is just a lot radiates with me from her as well.

544
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:53,000
So you know what I'll go with Dr. Tiana for this time.

545
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,000
She's the inner thoughts of doctors that we're never allowed to hear.

546
01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:08,000
Listen out, listen out because I have a character coming who is the ship's counselor and he is the same race as that doctor.

547
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:25,000
So Tom and and Mark, Cyclist Mark is going to be playing that character are going to have some fun dealing with what would the counselor be like if they had that same attitude.

548
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:31,000
Am I going to have to have something like a portable kind of catnip spray to sedate him?

549
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:36,000
I've only sent him a very draft kind of idea script of how I want him to play.

550
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:47,000
He did then rewrite and took a lot of swear words out which I said, why you I'll tell you exactly what I said because it's the word he kept cutting out said why you've been not saying pussy.

551
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:52,000
That's the word he kept cutting out of the script.

552
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,000
I would not have expected that.

553
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,000
He didn't want to say it I don't think.

554
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:57,000
Bless him.

555
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,000
Listen to this and tell me off now.

556
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:04,000
So Karen, do you have a favorite character or just do you have them all?

557
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:09,000
No, well I mean you know obviously there's love for all of them but Tendi is my girl.

558
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,000
Yes.

559
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:16,000
100% like you know she's a lean mean green fighting nerdy machine.

560
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,000
Yeah.

561
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,000
You know I mean.

562
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,000
If Rob didn't have a picture to pow up on the wall.

563
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,000
It'll be Tendi.

564
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:37,000
You know I've got this idea for a bit of seeing if she's got a cameo and paying to have her respond to Ensign Rob's emails as Tendi.

565
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:38,000
But it's probably really expensive.

566
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:39,000
I don't even know.

567
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:40,000
I haven't looked yet.

568
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:45,000
That was my idea because we do mention that in the episode that people would have heard at the beginning of this.

569
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,000
You guys haven't heard it yet.

570
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,000
But talk about emailing her.

571
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,000
I'd like to know what her responses would be.

572
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,000
Yeah I'm Tendi too.

573
01:05:55,000 --> 01:06:05,000
Particularly an episode in season one where she makes a dog.

574
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,000
That's just so good.

575
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,000
Doesn't it just go around devouring things?

576
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:12,000
It just.

577
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:13,000
People and.

578
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:14,000
It reminded me of the thing.

579
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,000
That's the kind of vibe I got from it.

580
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:23,000
And particularly right at the end, I've said definitely said this on the show before, where they're like dogs aren't like that.

581
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,000
And she's like what?

582
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:27,000
She thought it was that's what.

583
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,000
So I don't know what a dog is.

584
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,000
I just made this.

585
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,000
But she's just so happy all the time.

586
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,000
Everything's great.

587
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:40,000
Just super clever.

588
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:44,000
Just yeah just has like the glass is not half full.

589
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,000
It's full.

590
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,000
The glasses are full.

591
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:53,000
And she's just yeah I think that it's hard to have a bad scene with her.

592
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,000
I think.

593
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:56,000
Yeah I agree.

594
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,000
That's my opinion.

595
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,000
And apparently she is coming back for season five.

596
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,000
I read somewhere today.

597
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:07,000
So I know she went off to be with the Orion Syndicate and be the queen of the.

598
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:08,000
Oh what is she?

599
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,000
Winter.

600
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:11,000
Winter.

601
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,000
Oh yes.

602
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,000
I haven't finished season four yet.

603
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:16,000
Winter constellation.

604
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,000
Yeah I've got like one episode or two episodes left.

605
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:19,000
Oh sorry.

606
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,000
Spoiler alert Rob.

607
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:21,000
No it's all right.

608
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:22,000
But she'll be in season five.

609
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,000
Yeah I'd be surprised if they took anybody out.

610
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,000
Particularly those four.

611
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:29,000
I'd be very surprised.

612
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:35,000
I mean I was surprised that they killed off Jax isn't it in season one.

613
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:39,000
And luckily they brought it back instantly.

614
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:40,000
Yeah I love that.

615
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,000
And it's like no one answers.

616
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,000
No one asks that question.

617
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,000
Yeah.

618
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,000
No one questions him.

619
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:55,000
Because that was when he used to get like crazy because people asked him things.

620
01:07:55,000 --> 01:08:00,000
Yeah and that's the episode where they're in the pottery aren't they.

621
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,000
Oh yeah.

622
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,000
And they're obviously very offended aren't they.

623
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,000
They're like oh my god I can't believe you asked him this.

624
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,000
I think that's the Bridge Buddies episode.

625
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,000
I think it is the Bridge Buddies episode.

626
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:11,000
Yeah I think you're right.

627
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,000
Yeah.

628
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:18,000
Command functions are offline.

629
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:22,000
Well I think that's good.

630
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,000
I think you'd agree.

631
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:28,000
Oh absolutely I think the main point of this episode is save lower decks.

632
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:29,000
Yeah.

633
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:34,000
Other than what you've just heard in the interview all three of us here save lower decks 100 percent.

634
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:40,000
So if there's Netflix or another provider takes it over don't really care as long as it comes back.

635
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,000
Exactly.

636
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,000
Yeah.

637
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:43,000
So thank you.

638
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,000
Thank you to you both for joining today.

639
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,000
Thank you Rob.

640
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:55,000
And thank you for joining your voices into the mess of the skip.

641
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,000
Who else we need to thank for the skip?

642
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:05,000
Flower and Wolfie on the Discord they they've did a great job.

643
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,000
Your old man Karen was in it too.

644
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,000
Dad Merle Chester.

645
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,000
Yeah.

646
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:15,000
Your old man plays Valencio did a great job there too.

647
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,000
Thank you very much.

648
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:24,000
I have asked for obviously this is recorded before the show comes out obviously it's not live when you're hearing it.

649
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:28,000
And I've asked for people to give me some chanting stuff for the protest you would have heard.

650
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:35,000
At the moment Drew Lujan's master of Twitch is so far the only one who has sent me anything.

651
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:41,000
So it could just be me tweaking his voice a lot if I don't get anyone else.

652
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,000
I'll get Ensign Court to send you something.

653
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,000
Yeah.

654
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:50,000
But yeah where you do this much better than me TJ where can people find us?

655
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:56,000
OK so if you would like to track us down and potentially murder us then please don't.

656
01:09:56,000 --> 01:10:01,000
But if you would like to just talk to us on social media or via email you can head over to channel84.co.uk

657
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:05,000
where you will find all our social links and all our email details.

658
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:11,000
But those email details in case you don't want to go to the web page are TJ at channel84.co.uk to speak to me.

659
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:14,000
Rob at channel84.co.uk to speak to Rob.

660
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:20,000
Patron Saint at channel84.co.uk to speak to Karen and send your complaints to that address as well.

661
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:26,000
And then if you want to talk to Rob and me at the same time you send it to podcasts at channel84.co.uk.

662
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:36,000
We are on Twitter, Blue Sky Threads, TikTok, Facebook, Twitter, I think I've said all of them, Twitter, X, whatever you want to call it now.

663
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:41,000
We're on all of those and we've also got a lovely community all over on Discord.

664
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:48,000
And the easiest way is not find an invitation link but go to channel84.co.uk forward slash Discord and that will take you straight there.

665
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:55,000
Karen, have you listened to the end of the variety show from the last episode?

666
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,000
Yes.

667
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:59,000
And what he says is one of your roles.

668
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,000
Oh, hang on a second.

669
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:05,000
Hang on a second.

670
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:07,000
Because you haven't brought it up.

671
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,000
I'm very surprised you didn't bring it up.

672
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,000
Hang on, no, I've slept since then.

673
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:16,000
I know I listened to it all because it was on the telly and I was like, oh, it's gone quiet.

674
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,000
It's like the 51st date, you go to sleep and you can't remember?

675
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,000
Yeah, it must be.

676
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:24,000
Oh my God. No, what's going on?

677
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:25,000
What have I missed?

678
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:26,000
You go back and listen to it.

679
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,000
Oh, you're so mean.

680
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:32,000
It's like the wife just sponsored me for some food.

681
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:38,000
Maybe I did know that you'd said something and I just wasn't worried about it.

682
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:42,000
I was waiting for a message from you all day going, you can't say that.

683
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,000
Some comment.

684
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:47,000
Honest, we are talking the last.

685
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:50,000
We're coming out as recording.

686
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:56,000
Oh, in that case, no, I have not listened to that yet because Adam and I listened to them together.

687
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,000
Even though we're in separate places.

688
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:02,000
And normally we would settle down and listen to it at about eight o'clock on a Monday.

689
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,000
But no, I've not heard it yet.

690
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,000
So I've got something to look forward to.

691
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,000
Yeah, bend over.

692
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:12,000
Maybe.

693
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,000
Thank you, Karen. Thank you, Karen.

694
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,000
Thank you for joining us.

695
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,000
Thank you for organizing the interview for us.

696
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:21,000
You're welcome.

697
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,000
I think you've probably wrote most of those questions.

698
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:24,000
I don't think I wrote a single one.

699
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:27,000
No, I think TJ probably plowed most of them.

700
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,000
Well, thank you, TJ.

701
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:32,000
Thank you both for doing all the work for the podcast I'm supposed to be running.

702
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:38,000
Thank you for all the editing, the USS Shit Show that you do, all the scripts, getting all the sounds.

703
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:41,000
And you do a lot more than the Variety Show does.

704
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:46,000
I really hope that one guy on YouTube loves the bullshit at the beginning.

705
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,000
Oh, God, the bullshit.

706
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,000
I bet he cannot wait.

707
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:53,000
Yeah, I'm looking forward to hearing that person's message on the next one.

708
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:58,000
Something tells me that there might be a character that turns out to be wearing a red shirt and dies.

709
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,000
Yeah, maybe.

710
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,000
I can't die, I've got a name.

711
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:06,000
Right, love you.

712
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:07,000
Love you.

713
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:31,000
Love you.

714
01:13:37,000 --> 01:14:03,000
Hmm.

715
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:04,000
Admiral.

716
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:05,000
Yes, what is it?

717
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:09,000
There has been a black level containment breach on the USS Shit Show.

718
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,000
Fucking hell.

719
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:40,000
Incompetent little shits.

720
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:59,000
I noticed that you do always give me the complex words to say in serious.

721
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:05,000
Because if you're the clever one, the joke of the show is I'm the fucking idiot and you're the clever one.

722
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,000
But your idiocy comes from being clever.

723
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:09,000
Does that make sense?

724
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,000
Yeah.

725
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:17,000
Mandatory after that incident with the gelatinized group becoming sentient when being exposed to Nelix's.

726
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:18,000
Oh, fuck.

727
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:19,000
Yeah.

728
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:25,000
Mandatory after that incident with the gelatinized.

729
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:26,000
I got it right.

730
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,000
He did say it good the first time.

731
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:37,000
It's mandatory after that incident with the gelatinized group becoming sentient when being exposed to Nelix's Alpha Quadrant Worm Surprise from the wet threat.

732
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:46,000
Just say the Nelix's Alpha Quadrant Worm Surprise.

733
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,000
I can't even remember my own fucking song.

734
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:54,000
How does the Tenegi song go?

735
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:59,000
Excellent.

736
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:00,000
Thank you, Valencia.

737
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,000
I get the point.

738
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,000
I still stand by my triples retreat.

739
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:10,000
Triples for teens is really hard to say.

740
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:30,000
Security.

741
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:33,000
Longest one I could do.

742
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,000
That's amazing.