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So, as always, what sci-fi have you consumed in last Fortnite?
So, you asked me this earlier and I said, I haven't consumed any.
But we weren't on the podcast.
Oh, of course we were. The closest sci-fi I have consumed is Mad Max.
Oh yeah, of course.
And to be fair, if you don't listen to the variety show, you wouldn't know. So yes,
I just saw Mad Max Fury Road for the first time, missed it the first time now, never got to see
it on streaming. And thanks to good old Cineworld and their Action Month, they had it on the
super-sized big screen, which was really nice. And I'm blown away by it. I thought it was really,
really good. Felt really sorry for the Nux character. Loved the cinematography of it all.
Like we discussed before, the whole storm scene with the giant tornado or whatever you want to
call it. Just absolutely stunning. Just loved the entirety of it. Thought it was really, really good.
I'd love to watch that. So I don't have it here, but say if I turned all the lights off and it
gets really flipping dark in here, even though we've got no curtains or anything, it still gets
really dark. With those ambi lights around the back of the TV, I'd love to watch it with that
and have all the red colour coming on the wall. I don't have that though. One of the reasons I
don't have that, I don't like the camera thing. Like the really good ones seem to have this camera
that you're going to put on the top of your TV and it looks.
Oh, right. So yeah, no, no. So the, that's, I don't know if that's the Phillips Hue one.
Not quite because the Phillips Hue, there's two versions. The one I had, which I've just got rid
of, reads the image data from the TV. Sorry, the dog's drinking again. No, it's fine.
Yeah. So yeah, but anything on the HDMI and anything from the software, it can pick up the
and do the ambi light from that. So there's no camera involved. It's purely done by software
and the data it's reading from the four, well, three sides of the screen.
So fun fact, it must've been, I worked with this firm for 10 years. So it would have been
12 to 15 years ago. I installed one of the very first kits of this. And it was a two you
do rack mounted piece of equipment, which only took composite video feed. So you had to down
convert the HDMI signal to composite. And that's how it decoded the light channel. And then,
Oh, was it composite or was it RGB? I think it could do both, but I'm pretty sure it was just a
one yellow RCA composite that went into it. And then you could add a little touch screen on the
front where you could pick, we really had to go in on your computer and you could really mess with
it. But essentially you just had, you could pick a presets of what you kind of wanted. And then you
had to map that to led strips that you would physically install. So you had to get, um,
color changing led strips installed in a particular way in your cinema room, because it was for
cinemas. And we were, the problem that we had was the led strips were put in. And then this was an
afterthought. The led strips were just in cause the guy wanted color strips. So they weren't put in,
do you want them coming, um, from the screen back and around the screen? This wasn't like that.
Had it like a ring around the screen, then a ring around the middle, then a ring round the back.
And it just, that won't work whilst it looked really cool for the bits at the beginning,
where the whole idea was an explosion was meant to bring the light through and forwards.
That kind of stuff didn't work, which was such a shame.
Yeah. Because the ambi lights CVI had only had three strips on it. Had one across the top at the
back, one across the left at the back and one across the rise at the back. It didn't have
anything at the bottom, which was a shame, but yeah, when mounted on the wall, it meant it
immediately fired it against the wall. So yeah, you got great, great left, right and uplifting
up rising from the back and it looked brilliant. And yeah, anything that moved across the screen,
the color would move with it as well. So it wasn't just like, Oh, we've lit up the whole strip. It
was each segment of the strip. That was beautiful. I love it as a technology. I know that my cousin
has him, he's got one and I'm pretty sure he's got the one that has a camera on the top. And I just,
you can see I like a clean, I've got pictures on the wall, but I want the TV's got to be clean.
Yeah. I just want thin bezel. And I've got like a soundbar underneath mine, but it's the width of
the screen. It's jet black. It looks like it was designed to be built into the TV or is part of
the TV. I don't like, I would not like to have that. Like even when I used to have the wee sensor
bar on the top of the TV, never really liked that being there very much. So I'd always take it off.
If you're not using it, yeah, fair enough. I didn't like seeing stuff like that. Yeah, no,
I get that. I get that. That's kind of science fiction, isn't it? It is science fiction, but you
don't really see it in any, any, well, I don't know about any of the modern, modern trick, but
you would have thought that would have been something they would have, well, I guess the
holodeck really, you wouldn't need the shiny lights to make you feel in depth because you're in it.
But talking just the last thing you're saying about having the camera that would do it.
Yeah. I remember buying these cheap Chinese knockoff LED strips that had its own little
crap app that came with it that didn't work very well, but it would change the light colours
and it had a mode on the app that was like enable camera access and the instructions said,
place your phone on a tripod, point it at the screen, enable the camera, and then it would do
the LED strips for you. But you had to have your phone set up on a tripod watching the screen so
it could do it. How ridiculous. They're just like, okay, the technology can do it, but who's going
to do that really? Exactly. It was stupid. But yeah, that's the only sci-fi I've got. Not next
week. Oh, no, it is next week. Next Friday night, I'm off to go and see the new Planet of the Apes
film, which looks just really good. But that's about it sci-fi wise. I'm still gutted. I didn't
get to see Diminishing Man. I am. And I'm gutted we're going to be missing episode one this weekend
of Star Wars. It would have been this Friday. Friday, Saturday, Sunday, it's on. And yeah,
neither of us have kids that will be in bed by the time it's showing the latest. So it's like,
we can't even get to it. But that would be the untitled Star Wars show. Yeah, that's the best
Star Wars by the way, everybody. Email me at TJ at channel84.co.uk. I'm going to set up a new email
address, you know, email, hate mail at channel84.co.uk. Complaints at channel84.co.uk and you'll never,
ever get a look at that. No, it will do. It'll just highlight them as like five star reviews
on the webpage instead. Like the Helldivers underneath. Yes. Have you seen they've got,
there is a one star one. No, every now and again, a one star one pops up and it says like,
redacted or something. Oh, yes. I have seen those. Genius. Absolute genius.
So what sci-fi have I been doing? Loads of Fallout. We finished Fallout. Oh, awesome. Yeah. See,
I still haven't got their own finished twisted metal yet because I've just, I'm not having a
chance to, I've rearranged my office. I'm not looking at the TV all the time. It's behind me
now, which actually means my work day, sorry boss has actually got a little bit better because I'm
not glancing at the TV so often. So I'm not even having it on. I've just got music on in the
background now. So I'm not actually having a chance to catch up on much, but Fallout is definitely on
my list because I keep just hearing these rave reviews about it. Do you ever play the games? Any
of them? I played the very original Fallout, the top down isometrics. Yeah. And then I kind of
played Fallout 3 and I, I just didn't get it. If that's a fair thing to say. I would say it's
taking Fallout 4 as its base. Right. Okay. And it's got to be one of, if not the best
game to screen adaptions. And I won't have that mate. We all know the doom film. I knew you were
going to say doom. I just, I was going to say it, but I know I'm going to let you say that you think
the rocks doom is the right doom. I mean, what I did like, I did like little FPS bit in that,
which people slag off. Oh, it's so stupid, but it's lovely. Has that got the Judge Dredd dude in it?
He's awesome. Carl Urban. He's so cool in everything. I like Carl Urban. I like him in all
the rings. Um, lost. Yeah. So, but the reason why it's so good is because it's not doing the
Fallout story. It's just taken the world of Fallout. That's the same. And it's taken all the
cool aesthetics and the kind of silliness of it. And, you know, cause it's very tongue in cheek
Fallout. It kind of like, it's a serious game, but not very serious at the centre. No one's cracking
jokes, but you can see it's a bit like, Oh, see what we did there. Oh, and that's very much what
the show's like. It feels like a live action Fallout and that's what it is. A live action Fallout.
And yeah, they really capture, I don't want to spoil this for you, but yeah, they really capture
the kind of naivety and innocence of a, of a vault dweller compared to the real harsh reality
of Wastelanders. You know, great twists, great bits going on every episode. You know,
it can be very violent, which is quite shocking for the wife cause she was like, I don't remember
the game being fun. It was like, no, it was. You would blow people's heads off. You'd particularly
aim for the head or the torso based on your aiming system and shoot it. And it would often
go, but just how it was almost kind of not a massive deal in Fallout. Yeah. That's what
happens. You blow someone's heads off and it was kind of cartoony-esque, but not cartoony-esque
kind of shows a bit like that too. You know, there's a very, everyone feels very, seems very
numb to the death of people. And I do kind of get that impression when you play the game, you're
very numb. Yeah. It's yeah. That makes sense. It's, it's very, what I'm getting at is it's very good.
And I highly recommend you watch that as soon as you can before somebody ruins it for you.
Right. Okay. Yeah. No, that sounds a good idea to me. I will fire that or I will try and fire it up
this weekend and start watching it in evenings. Maybe when everyone's gone to bed, I can sit in
the office in the dark and I'll put it on and I'll let you know my thoughts on it, but it is, yeah,
it's on my list. I am looking forward to watching it. Oh, hello. I've got a cat sniffing the
microphone. You want to say something about Fallout? She'd been watching, she sits there watching.
So what else have I had? Yeah. So we're two episodes into the discovery. I think we've been
two episodes into it for a while. We've started episode three, not that there's anything wrong
with it. We just on two occasions have started them and just paused it ended up just talking
or doing something else. Yeah. Fair enough. That's not a detraction to it. It's just that
for whatever reason, other things have happened, but I did want to get another episode in before
this show, but that does kind of speak a little bit about it because there's, if there was,
if there was any sort of show that you were absolutely 100% in love with, would you
start an episode show gun, for example, I know you finished that recently. Would you have started
an episode and stopped at a few minutes into talk or do something? Not in the same way. I would have
stopped to get the dogs out or stopped to have something to it, but yeah, I wouldn't have stopped
just to, for us to have a conversation. Yeah, exactly. So that, that, whether or not that
speaks volumes about discovery or not, I don't know. I'm, I'm still not sold on it obviously.
So I do still need to catch up on it. I know I've said that every episode we've had now,
but once I've caught up with it, I will let you know my, my true opinion. Once I've given it a
fair chance, because there are bits that I've liked. As I said, I like it when they bring mud
on board and he's basically killing the captain every time. I think that's season one. It'd be
season one. So it had got its moments. It's just whether or not they were enough to actually keep
me interested. Talking about other sci-fi things though, that I'm looking forward to. Yeah. The
Borderlands film. Yes. The trailer looks great. Awesome. Just, it really felt like the game,
the trailer. Is it Helen Mirren? No, I'm so bad with Jamie Lee Curtis. No, the,
that's the name Jamie Lee Curtis. Jamie Lee Curtis is so bad with names for actresses. Yeah. I don't
know who the young actress is, but the older actress is Jamie Lee Curtis. The one from Halloween,
True Lies. I know the other lady. Oh, there's another lady in it. The main lady. I thought
that was, hang on, I'm going to look it up now because that's what we do. Borderlands. We do a
lot of, oh, Cate Blanchett. Cate Blanchett. Yes. I'm so bad at. Yeah. No, fair enough. I'd forgotten
she was even in it to be honest. It's one of the main four people, right? What's that? One of the
main four people. Yes. Yeah. But it genuinely, and Jack Black as, um. Clap, Clap Trap. Clap Trap.
Yeah. Fantastic choice. Great casting. Yeah. It's genuinely, I just looked at it, thought about the
game, thought about playing Borderlands one and two, and then look back at the trailer and it just
fits. Well, you know, it's about to fall out quickly. You know the flying robot in Fallout?
Yeah. Guess who does his voice? Who? Matt Berry. Oh. If that's not reason enough for you to watch
the show. Bring on the trumpets. Yeah. And that dude, he got the memo. He knew exactly what to do.
I think he's called Mr Snips. His character might be called Mr Snips.
That is the, his, I don't care what anyone said. He's perfect for any role. James Bond, Matt Berry.
Indiana Jones, Matt Berry. There's some great scene where they do like flashbacks to before the war,
before the explosions. And there's a conversation with one character and Matt Berry
as the actor who sells his voice to the company. I am here every day of the week for Matt Berry
playing Matt Berry. Yeah. And they're, well, he's not as himself, but he's kind of is being himself.
He's not called Matt Berry. He's called whatever his name is. But like they say about how much it,
he got paid and he got a really low amount of money. And like, but I did get a robot and he's
like, who had fucking idea would think I want to have a robot with my own voice in my house greeting
me every day. You've got to watch it. Honestly, there's jokes like that all the way for it. It's
great stuff. That's just Matt Berry full stop. Just he makes any shot. If he's in it, I will
typically watch it. My, my employer's wife keeps telling me to watch what we do in the shadows
because we've both watched the film. Have you seen that show? Vampires? It's Matt Berry's in it.
So it's a show. It's a documentary about vampires. No. Oh my God. I'll lend you the DVD before you
go today. I've got the DVD a friend brought for me. Watch that. It's what they do in the shadows.
It's called, and it is literally a documentary film following vampires and he's in it. And so is,
I think it's the phone Jack guy, I think might be in it. And it's got the, um, uh, what's those New
Zealand guys that you like? Oh, the flight, the Concord. I think one of those guys is in it at
some point. Oh, Jermaine or yeah. Okay. Cool. And then the guy who is now also directed Thor.
Oh, New Zealand guy. Um, so rubbish. Everyone's gonna be laughing. I don't know. No, no, no.
Take a cheeky. Yeah. Something like that. I'm so sorry.
That guy's there's a lot of people in it. Well, they've done like four series of it.
Oh, right. Yeah. Okay. So yeah. And she keeps telling me to watch the series and I haven't
watched them. Oh, wow. Yeah. There's some big names in this, isn't there? Yeah. And the film
is utterly brilliant. It's so funny. Oh, right. There you go. I was right. Writers Jermaine Clement.
Yeah. Oh, that's very good. And Taiko Hiti. Yeah. I can take him or leave him. Funny enough. I like
him. I like him on the most part. Um, Fall Guy. I particularly liked his character in Fall Guy,
but I do feel he's a bit over the top sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, sorry. All right. Right. So
yeah, that's pretty, pretty much. That's Fallout. Nice. Okay. So Orville. Orville.
Accessing library computer data.
So the Orville season one episode one. Yeah. So we're not going to do a typical episode,
are we? That we go over the episode inch by inch, like we do with Trek. And in fact,
that may even change. We'll talk about that at the end, but we are, we are open to how you want a
Trek podcast to actually be and what should be in it. But we, I wanted to introduce Rob to what I
called the best Trek or the best non Trek Trek, I should say, because when Discovery came out,
I was sorely disappointed as we've discussed many, many times before. And at the same time,
your bill came out and I think you have said exactly right. What you said to Miranda this evening
was exactly what I think was on everybody's lips. What was that? What, what, what did you say?
Family guy in space. Yeah. It was Seth MacFarlane. It's going to be American dad. It's going to be
family guy just in space. It's going to be slapstick comedy. And that's all we're going to get.
Now you've watched an episode. Yeah. Were you right or wrong? Let's, let's start with that.
It is not family guy in space. There's no giggity giggities. There's none of that
slapstick in the cartoony slapstick, dumb fuckery that family guy's famous for. None of that. No,
it, it's really hard to explain the Orville because in one way it is funny. It is full of comedy.
Like you text me on WhatsApp this afternoon. Why have I just seen a blue guy ejaculate through his
eyebrows? Yeah. And did you realise who that actor was? No. I was watching on my phone kind of
whilst working. Oh, fair enough. Okay. Well that was a fairly famous actor. He does come back as
well, by the way, that character. Okay. Wicked. Let me find who it was because I know the name,
but I don't want to get it wrong. Oh dear. I'm going to have to buy credit order. That should do it.
Maybe. Maybe. Dr. Kroger, Ogre, Yaffit. Rob Lowe. No way is it Rob Lowe. That is Rob Lowe.
Wow. And he turns up two or three more times through the series. That's hilarious. What great
makeup. Yeah, it's brilliant. And for those of you that don't know Rob Lowe, he was in Wayne's World
as the bad guy. He's in Austin Powers of the Pie who shagged me. He has been in so much over the
years. Fantastic actor. He plays... He doesn't age either. No, he doesn't. He's such an attractive
man who just doesn't age. Super jealous. But yeah, anyway. So yeah, you've got comedy in it,
but then at the same time it takes itself seriously. And I think the only way I can really
describe it is it's as if Star Trek actually based itself on real day to day how people
work together in an office environment. There's no overinflated egos. Well, there is overinflated
egos we'll see later on in different series, but there isn't any kind of command structure
like you see in Star Trek. You don't see kind of the ranks and the respect for each other. You just
see everyone as if they're working in an office. And you can imagine at the end of the day, they're
going to go down to their version and send forward and have a drink. Not all be kind of hoity-toisy
and I'm going to go and sit in my room that hasn't got a TV and listen to a bit of music and play my
piccolo like Captain Picard. You can imagine they finish their day. It's like, right, let's go and
get drunk. Well, like one of the guy in the Helms, the tactical... I don't know what one is, the black
dude and he's like, can I have a soda? The last captain let me have soda on the bridge. That is
a classic question. You can imagine somebody actually asking, the last captain let me have
soda on the bridge. Is that all right? And he's like, as long as you don't keep it, but as long
as you keep it below the equipment and don't spill it. Yeah. So yeah, that's Lieutenant Lamar,
John Lamar. And it's just classic, isn't it? It's exactly... So if you'd put that into Star Trek,
no questions would be asked. It would be... And in fact, go and look at the original series of films.
Kirk comes onto the newly refitted enterprise. Everyone's lined up waiting and he speaks to
someone and he's like, oh, Ensign First Class Captain, engineering, blah, blah. And it's like,
oh, well, standard ease Ensign, blah. It's all really formal. Yet, as you say, in this, it's
literally, right, you're my senior officers. Hello, can we still have soda?
Yes. Obviously my writing style is not anywhere near somebody who's making a show like this.
But I said to you and KJ is in the chat, didn't I? I was like, have I this whole time been actually
writing Orville fanfic and not Star Trek fanfic just because of the way I write our characters?
Pretty much.
It felt that way.
That's it. The Orville, for me, it just, it... You haven't got there yet and that's why it's
really difficult to go into this because you've seen the first episode, which is a fun episode.
We find out that his wife's cheated on him. He gets depressed. He finally gets a ship.
Uh-oh, ex-wife turns up as his second officer. Well, first officer, sorry. They go to a
science colony who've tricked them into coming there. We get the whole joke of we no longer need
to fear the banana, which is just a brilliant moment. Then the krill turn up, brilliant makeup,
by the way. All of the makeup in the whole show is good. Stand out was the makeup.
Then they blow up the krill ship with the giant redwood. Excellent. It's funny. It's fun all the
way through. And you're going to think, oh, well, it's funny and fun. The thing is when you get into
the series even deeper, you suddenly get storylines that you think, hang on, this isn't actually funny.
Yeah. And that's what's really important about the Auroville that people need to realise
is it is actually doing Trek better than some Trek has done. So yeah, it's got its comedy moments,
which is really fun, but there are some episodes. So there is an episode in series one. In fact,
I think it's a two-parter or it's across a couple of parts where we know that Bortus is a,
the security officer is a single gendered species. In the next episode, episode two,
not wanting to ruin it, he lays an egg. And then later in the series, there's an entire kind of
two part where it's about gender reassignment being forced by one of the parents,
whereas the other parent doesn't want it. And then it's actually just a complete episode based on,
should we be forcing gender reassignment or shouldn't we, should we just allow it?
Should we just allow nature to take place? And it's a really,
it's not, there is very funny parts to it, but it's a really serious episode talking about
really serious things. And that's what people don't realise the Auroville is. It is a semi-serious
show. It's just got comedy aspects to it. I think if they, if you took the comedy out of it,
it would definitely be Star Trek. It, it, it had the look of it, it had the feel of it, the audio,
the music was just, it was like a Star Trek intro. Okay. It didn't do the,
do the warp and going through having the opening credits. Maybe it does that in other episodes.
Next episode, it's got an entire, yeah. But the music is spot on.
Yeah. The music's spot on. They had a model of the Auroville maid. So a lot of the shots are done
are a model, which is why it looks so good. You know what, when the clamps come off the ship,
I was looking at my phone thinking that looks like a model because you can now 90% of the CGI was
very good when they're doing the, um, hug the donkey. That's a little bit ropey. Yeah. But,
but I didn't attract from it. It just, it was a noticeable difference between. Yeah. But it was
dumb. That's it. Um, they were, and they're not afraid to be dumb in the shows, but at the same
time, they kind of get the point across. So this whole thing, this first episode is a fun, silly
episode, but there's still a serious undertone about the fact that his wife's cheated on him
and about accepting and apologizing and moving forward. So there's an entire understory there
that makes you drawn into the characters and want to be part of their lives and actually see
how they flourish and where they go from there. Yeah. It actually builds your want to know what
happens to these people. You don't want them to get hurt anymore, but you want to see where's this
going. One thing I liked, we're going to jump all over the place. He, when they blow up the
crew ship by super growing the redwood and he does the Arbor day, um, pun, which was quite funny
and is actually a clever pun. And then they're all like, nah, didn't land. And then she does a dumb,
basically penis joke about getting wood, which was very funny. Everyone laughs. And then he,
and then what made it funny was at the end is like, yeah, that was better. And that little bit extra
to Jones made it even that little bit more funny, but then there's even lots of little bits like
they're on the shuttle back and he's been shot in the shoulder and the doctor said, how are,
it's unbearable pain is, oh, it means he's hardly been injured. I just said, I'm in unbearable pain.
He's like, no, he's just trying to get drugs. He's like, no, I'm not. Have you got drugs?
No, they're all on the ship. There's loads of stuff like that. Little things that I'd never
noticed the first time I watched it. And I don't know if you would have spotted. Did you spot when
they put the seat belts on? Yeah, there were seat belts. Yeah. No, no, they have lights on them.
I did. They went from red to green. Yeah, I noticed. Yeah. So cool. Just little things like that.
I did think that when he says everyone belt up and they do, I thought, why have they made a point
of pointing out? Obviously within the next five minutes, they do a sudden break and yeah, classic
kind of road, right? Obviously he must've turned the inertial dampeners off inside his space shuttle
for that guy to come flying forward. I don't know. As I said, I really, really, really like the Orville
second series might not have been so strong. And the third one I've been told isn't as strong again.
And from what I understand, I think Seth MacFarlane was, I didn't think he wanted to do as many
series. I think it was only meant to be a short lived thing, but he ended up in a contract having
to do it. So you kind of get the idea that there's not as much enjoyment. They're still good,
but yeah, you kind of kind of see it, it's dragging a little bit. So I'll see how you feel as you go
on through them. But is there any other, so as you say, we're jumping about, we've talked about
Lamar already and we've talked about Bortus, the security crew. Again, make up on him,
really straight off piss take of a Klingon, but done better. It looks more like bloody Tanagra
bloke. Darmock. And then you've got Ed, which is Seth MacFarlane, wherever he plays is just really
good. I've always kind of liked him. And the thing is you can always just hear Brian from Family Guy,
can't you? But let's talk about very quickly Gordon Malloy as well, his best mate.
The pilot.
The pilot. And I've got to say, I still stupid laugh when he's like, oh yeah, meet the ogre I'm
beating up. He's really cool, but I've given him a really cool personality. He's like, hi,
oh, your friends, nice.
I'm so happy for you guys. He was like a really nice dude, wasn't he?
Such a silly program. But I love the fact that it's just a complete piss take of the holiday. So
I've not programmed anything serious. I've just programmed something fun, which is what you'd
expect people to do. I programmed an orc samurai to fight. This is great.
It's just so silly. But I absolutely. And then when the Admiral was going on, didn't he draw
a penis on the display? He's drawn a lot of penises. Let's move on.
I'd like to see where the racist robots going to go.
Oh, that goes all over the place. That goes everywhere and so much more. There's a brilliant
episode coming up where he basically, again, complete piss take of Dazer, but he doesn't
understand what practical jokes are.
Oh, is it going to be like that really good Star Trek short where Spock doesn't get anything? Is
it Spock? I don't know which one you mean. Yeah, it's very much like that. Yes. In fact,
that may be where they kind of got the idea from. But um, suffice to say that one is
genius. That episode. I thought that the ship was really cool, but yeah, the makeup and the
creature design, I was getting a lot of inspiration from it because when I'm doing like the shit show
stuff, I am trying to just pull specifically just Star Trek because that's what it is. But I think
I might just start making a few shit things up. Like the blob thing that was going down the
corridor. He just runs through. It's like, yeah, no worry about it mate. It turns up throughout
the entirety of it. He's a brilliant, brilliant character. Um, he has a love interest who doesn't
love him back, which you'll find out about. What a shame. Um, it's just, it's very easy.
Oh, again, who did his voice? Um, I recognize his voice, you know? Yeah. I know the voice as well.
And I'm honestly, uh, Norm McDonnell. Let me, yeah, I know who that is. Oh, okay. Cool. So you know
who that, so yeah, he's the voice of, um, Yaffit. Uh, why do I know that name though?
Well, this he's done. Oh, that's it. He's the dog in Dr. Do-Little. Well, he's passed away now,
isn't he? Uh, oh shit, he has, yeah. 2021. Yeah. And he did a lot of voice in Family Guy, of course.
A lot of them did. Yeah. He was Death in Family Guy. Oh, was he? Yeah. Um,
just, it's brilliant. I don't really know what else to say about it at this point,
because I know you've only watched one episode. Um, sticking with the kind of the set dressing I
get, the ship looks good and you get to see more of the ship and obviously highly influenced from
Star Trek. Yeah. But I would suggest a large amount of it has also been influenced by Galaxy
Quest. Yes. Um, it definitely felt very Galaxy Quest-y. Yeah. The Galaxy Quest is funny in the
same way. Precisely. Um, the uniforms, I really liked. Yeah. The uniforms were great. It's great
because the colours are all different from Star Trek. Yeah. The red guys aren't going to die or
whoever. I just thought the uniforms actually kind of fit what they're doing. It looks the part and,
I don't know, I know the Star Trek uniforms only kind of evolved. So they all do look similar,
but it's nice to see something slightly different to what we get with Star Trek. I would have liked
if they'd kind of, when it came to Discovery and they're off into the future for the uniforms to
have drastically changed. Yeah. But it doesn't look like it has. I mean, from the pictures I've
seen, it doesn't look like it has. I still don't like the teleportation stuff. Transportation,
stuff in Discovery, how they can just touch their bag and they fucking teleport anywhere.
Oh really? I'd love to, so Neil deGrasse Tyson, he has a podcast, I think it's called Star Talk,
and celebrities ask him questions. I would love to ask him his theory on whether, just to imagine
if Star Trek transportation was real, if it was real, are you the same person when you come out
the other side or have you died? That's a really deep question because it's true, isn't it?
It's a question I want to do for the Trek show at some point because I think
spoilers for when you get there. I think you're dead. I think I brought this up before.
You have done, but you've got to base your question on what would you consider
alive? Would you consider just the biological functioning of your body to be alive, as in the
heart's beating, the brain is operating, you're breathing, therefore you are alive, or do you
consider being alive having a soul? We're getting a bit away from the over now, I can fully
grasp the concept of moving your physical atoms and molecular structure from one place to another,
like that quantum entanglement thing where if one thing affects something somewhere else,
that I get. But the stuff inside your brain that makes you you, the untangible stuff of thought
and presence and, quote unquote, soul, how do they move that from one place to the other? Or is it
just because the exact chemical makeup of your brain has created that inside you? So that would
be you again over there. So that's what you've got to look at. If you're looking at science
aspects, and although we don't really know much about the brain in realistic terms, we don't,
what makes the brain remember things? It's a big pink chunk of meat with loads of nerves in it.
So how the hell does that even work? So you could say that the transporter is just creating an
exact chemical clone of your biological and chemical clone of you, which means that's why
all your memories there. That's why your actions are the same. That's why you think the same,
because the chemical balances, the makeup of your pink squidgy meat in your head is exactly the same
as it was in the original one of you. But then if you wanted to go the philosophical way,
you've got to say, well, surely your soul is something more than just a chemical balance and
meat in your body. There must be something more. It's down to what you then believe. Do you go
down that route of philosophy and consciousness, psychology, and all of that side of things,
or do you stick with the science approach of you're just a big bag of chemicals and in the
right numbers, in the right places, you get what you get?
You get what you get. I'm in some weird place in between, because I think if you have the ability
to move one to the other, could you then not supplant one of those into somebody else? So,
you know, like a body swap episode, you know, you and I both teleport. I said it. I'm owning it.
I'm yeah, no, but they move those brain compositions from mine to you and you to mine.
We're clearly not the same person anymore. I'm now all of my thoughts, memories and everything,
but in your body, could they do that? Do you think?
I don't know. I mean, the question moves anyway, isn't it? Because realistically,
teleportation, transportation, whatever you want to call it, isn't going to be possible. But if it
was, I genuinely don't know what the answer would be. Because then you create an exact replica of
someone. Is it murder when you decompile the other one or kill the other one? Yeah, but this is it,
isn't it? Does it become murder? Is it just, I mean, we live in a fucking world where in some
countries, abortions are legal at the moment at the point of it just being a couple of cells.
Yeah. And we're talking about allowing transportation where an entire human body is basically
scanned, broken down into large little chunks of data, transported, and then the original mass is
just, I presume, obliterated. Because all it needs is it to be totally fine. Let's use the
abortion analogy quickly without getting too in-depth into the politics of it.
Legal, then suddenly not legal. So let's do that with, I'm going to keep saying teleporting,
it's more comfortable to me. O'Brien, he's the man there with the dial to teleport you around.
Well, Starfleet leader, emperor, whatever the fucking hell the person at the top of the Starfleet
is, right then and there, yeah, that's fine. We're using teleporters. It's great. Well,
suddenly he gets voted out and some nut job gets voted in. And he says suddenly, no, that is not,
that is murder. And I'm going to go back in time and anyone that's been doing a teleportation,
you've been murdering people. O'Brien's murdered like a few million people because of how many
teleportations he's activated. He's going to go and get guillotined or whatever they do in Starfleet.
I don't know if they've got, they must have corporal punishments.
Starfleet. You get put in the brick, don't you? Well, in Discovery, somebody does get, one person,
part of the show does get punished by Starfleet. And I think he gets sent to another planet where
he has to kind of do like aid work and stuff. But he's forced to do it. It's like, you have to do
this. This is your punishment. Interesting. Okay. If you either go to this prison planet or you do
this, that kind of thing. She bite you. Yeah. You cheeky little mad. I'm sorry. I'm being bitten
by a cat now. Scoob. Do not drink. She likes rough-out. Yeah. Sorry. We went on a massive
way away from your villa at that point. What else have on the other characters? The Doctor
is a brilliant character. And she, her entire character gets a load more progression,
which is really good because the actress that plays her is phenomenal. As she gets some brilliant,
brilliant episodes to her. And then you've got the young security officer. No, Ketan. Not Ketan.
I know who you mean. She's like 21. That's the one. Yeah. She's got Ketan. Sorry. Yeah. That's it.
Alara. And she's got her super strength. And it's just so silly how they make a jump.
But she's like, reeeee. She knocks down that safe door and he's like, I loosened that for you. But
she just takes out the entire wall. But that's the perfect amount of humour just needed for that
situation. But you or I would say that. That's the exact thing that I would say if someone knocked
a warden. Yeah. I loosened that. It's exactly what I'm saying. I started it for you. Yeah. Just
to interject, just quickly, the only part of the entire episode I did not like was the very first
interaction between him and the Doctor and his reaction to her. Oh, what? You're saying I'm going
to fail? Yeah. That came out of nowhere for me. I don't know. I think I liked it because this is
his first captain. Yeah. And he's already feeling wary that the whole world's against him. Well,
it's showing his insecurity. Yes. But I just thought maybe later in the episode that would
have fitted to me a bit better. Does that make sense? It just, or have that conversation in
episode two or three. That would have felt better to me. But because he was going from, I think he
went a couple of funny interactions and then that one. Yeah. But then don't forget that interaction
ends with him saying, so you don't think I've got the balls for it. I'm your chief medical officer.
If your balls are under par, oh no. Yeah. And then it's funny again. It's just that very first bit
where he's so defensive. And so I was like, oh, it was jarring. And then, okay, it's fine again.
And that was literally the only bit of the entire episode I didn't like. Fair enough. That five
second moment. I've got some questions for you. Okay. Hang on. Let me just say my favourite,
favourite part of the episode. I want to know what your favourite part was. Yeah. It's a really
stupid part. And there's me saying it's a semi-serious show just with comedy thrown in.
And then I'm choosing the really stupid thing. But it's when he's got the krill on the view screen
and he's like, hold on, can you just take a step to the right, please? I can't concentrate on
anything else. There's so much empty space. Yeah. I've got a little comment about that actually,
because Star Trek do it too. He then starts talking to her, he's still talking to the krill,
but then he's like going damage report, do that. And they're talking about specific things they
might not want the enemy to know. And then they say mute the comm afterwards. So the krill already
knows they've got no deflectors or something and they've got something else wrong. And then they
get muted. It's like, no, you should be muting that. Yeah. But if you think about it, they've
got what they want on board their ships. They can't destroy the Orville because they'll lose what
they're after. So they're not going to attack them anyway. So it doesn't matter if they know
there's no deflector and whatever. Yeah. But it also, for me, it just goes to show the,
how wet behind the ears this crew are on their kind of first exploratory vessel, I guess. That's
how I took it. Yeah. I'm just trying to think because I watched it throughout the day, like in
little spurts. So I'm going to watch the episode again with Miranda fully to probably get, but I
mean, I would say I absolutely loved it. I'm going to probably watch them all that I really like. So
I'm definitely going to watch season one at least. Try and remember there was one bit I laughed out
loud and I was quite surprised that I found it so funny. Now I can't remember what it was, but I
did really like the York scene. It might be the York scene. The York scene is, if I hadn't said
the views, I would have said the York screen. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, sorry. Right. You had
questions. Right. So they're going to be quite difficult questions because they're just taken
from my notes. So what year will see you on earth in the first part? Cause you didn't watch the
episode, did you? You're just going by memory? No, no, no. I watched the episode today. But.
So in the first 10 seconds, it tells you what year it is. 23 something. 2418. Oh, not too bad.
Okay. Right. Um, not star dates and that year and actual year. Yep. The blue ice bunked monster.
Yeah. Remember what species he is? Nope. The tepsi. Riteps. Riteps. Yes. Okay. Now,
Seth McFarlane's character gives that reception a nickname later on. What does he call him? Where
he accuses her of fucking insert word here. Oh, I wish I'd known you were going to question me. I
would have watched it that much closer now. Go on. What is it? Puppersmith. Yes. That's it.
And the last one. No, I'm going to do another one. I've already said it today. What's the,
what's the flying maneuver that they do to get. Oh, hug the donkey. Yeah. Last one. This is very
difficult. What's the code that he says to the guy to activate the age machine when it's on the
cruise ship. I specifically can write it down because I want to look at it and see if it meant
something. I thought it'd be a hidden joke. So I'm going to have to search something six,
something, something alpha or six alpha nine three seven alpha three zero zero. I wasn't really
expecting you to get it, but I want, I've got it written down. I thought it was going to spell like
tits or boobs. Yeah. You know, like what's a woman of 55 want it to be 37. So she ate nothing and
nothing. She ate, then she became boobless. Oh no. Yeah. It doesn't do anything. I can tell upside
down. I think it might, it could well just be a number. It could be production number. It could
be something to do with the studio. That's what I mean. I bet it means something because they
always do this. I mean, I do it too. They all mean something. So overall, really glad to have
watched it. I can't believe I said he's going to murder me because he's been telling me to year
for years to watch it. And I never did. And it's taken me to push you to do it. You and a podcast
to get me to do it. And I'm so glad I did because I really enjoyed it. And it does only get better
from here. Say you get the slightly darker episodes, you get the slightly lighter hearted episodes.
Oh, another thing actually I really like, and you say about kind of what they kind of dropped in,
in certain bits, it doesn't spoil it for you. But in one of the next few episodes,
he has Kermit the frog on his desk and he does an entire like one minute speech about
who Kermit the frog is. He does a great impression of Kermit. Oh, Seth MacFarlane. I could watch him
doing impressions all day. He does a brilliant Liam Neeson one. He's a really good singer too.
Oh, his albums are on my library. I haven't actually got the albums. I've just heard him
do singing. He's brilliant. He is absolutely brilliant. But if you haven't seen it, he does
that famous Liam Neeson taken speech as Kermit the frog. Oh, brilliant. And it is just wonderful.
Command functions are offline. Oh, you're so good at pushing my button. I know. Sorry. I do do it.
I do it with a bit of flair too, don't I? Come around. Oh yeah, single finger right on the dot.
That's it. So that's that. That is not a particularly long one today, but...
Which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
It's not always a bad thing. There is more shit show coming everybody.
We're just working on it, aren't we?
It's in the brain at the moment, not yet onto paper. But the ideas there just needs to be...
I think what a lot of people need to understand with the whole shit show stuff,
the amount of effort you put into it about coming up with the idea, writing the script for it,
very much like the videos we've done or we have done and we will do, how much effort goes into
coming up with just the idea, let alone with where that idea is going. And as you said,
and whether people know this, it's a ongoing story arc. So where is it ending up has all been
considered already. So actually I'm looking forward to seeing where you go with it.
It's a lot of, it's kind of a join the dots kind of scenario because I know the beginning and the
end and I'm putting points in the middle and then trying to join them all together.
Yeah.
And I'm, I keep saying people have got ideas, send them in because like the whole, the whole,
the kind of arc we're going through at the moment with the anomaly and stuff has all come from the
Apollo Cthulhu guys making their one up. That was their idea to have the warped core impregnated.
And that's driving that's then become canon to the story.
And it's driving it through to the, to this next episode, which is still going to where I want it
to go. It's just giving me a little avenue to kind of divert slightly and have another bit of fun
with it. So yeah, people have got ideas. Great. Again, if you want to be in it, message me and
there's always space. Yeah.
We're always looking for alien voices, random ensign or captain voices, you name it, just send
it in and we can add it even if it's just background chatter that we can use in a 10 forward
scene one day. Yeah.
Be great to have some just lots of audio that we can just scrape together and use when we need.
Exactly. So where can we be found? We are on Twitter for the main show at underscore
untitled Trek. So I've got to say with that brilliant thing on Twitter, Elon Musk put up a
comment saying X is the superior brand or something like that to Twitter. How do you still,
which do you still use? And Mark Hamill retweeted it going Twitter. It will always be Twitter. X is
stupid. You've just been told by Luke Skywalker, mate. Yeah. Jog on.
It's, it's going to take a long time for people to.
I don't think anyone ever will. It's a generational thing.
I genuinely think what's going to happen is it's going to become either so untenable as a
social media platform for everyone or for him that it'll either shut down or he'll be forced to sell
it. And whoever then buys it. We'll move it back. We'll move it back to being Twitter.
Yeah. It's a weird one, isn't it? It's just, he's kind of killed the brand of it.
Yeah. I mean, I kind of don't really like him or hate him or whatever. I'm just going to
indifferent to him really. And, you know, I had a Twitter account before, but didn't start using it
till the podcast. And at that point it was becoming X. So for me, it doesn't make a difference, but you
had a lot of people use it for a lot longer because I preferred Twitter over Facebook, but
it's very hard to find any social media. I like any more.
I just hate all social media in general. It's a means to an end a lot of the time,
but we are on social media. So yes, you can find us on Twitter. You can find us on threads. You
can find us on blue sky. You can find us on Facebook. You can find us on discord and all
of those. You can find it channel84.co.uk. All our links are there. And if you want to get onto
discord really quickly and easily, don't worry about an invite code. Just go to channel84.co.uk
forward slash discord. And that will take you straight to the invite and straight into the
server where you can come and talk to us about Trek and everything else.
You do that so much better. It's just ingrained into your brain. I really have to sit here and
come back. Well, that's everything, is it? Next week. Oh no, I did it next week.
It's the end. I haven't done it for episodes upon episodes. And now I finally do it.
Good. Just before he carries on with that, you can also email us at TJ at channel84.co.uk. If
you wish to speak to me, if you wish to speak to Rob, you can email rob at channel84.co.uk. If
you wish to speak to the patron saint, Karen, you can do now, which is patron saint at channel84.co.uk.
And if you just want to email just me and Rob together, send it to podcasts. That's podcast
plural at channel84.co.uk. And that will come to both of us. That's right. And sorry. Now back to
you. So what was I going to say? Oh yeah. So the next episode, I'd like it to be another question
one. Okay. Cause I really enjoyed that question when we did a few episodes ago. So if anyone's got
any start, want to know our thoughts on anything to do with Star Trek or even just sci-fi in general,
or if they just got something, they they've got an opinion on something we have spoken about.
They think we're wrong or right about, like we've been vindicated on by the Lower Decks book
on what happens with fluid in the holiday. Indeed. We have talked about that on that episode. I think
it's time. Uh, yeah, just send it in DM me on Twitter. My DMS are open, you know, email either
of us podcast, even email it to Karen at Patience. Say exactly what I will say. And I've put this on
Twitter and I've put it on threads. I didn't put it on blue sky because I couldn't remember my
login at that point. Um, we want Untitled Trek show to be the listeners show more than anything.
So what we want is we want to make a show that you actually want. We don't want to just be another
Star Trek podcast that are doing just episode reviews and going over the same old turf that's
been gone over a million times before. So if there is something in particular that you think
a trick podcast should do, tell us and we will happily see if we can incorporate that.
If you think actually episode reviews are done to death and you don't want them, say so. If you think
what we'd actually like to do is more deep dive on specific characters in an episode or a series
rather than looking at the episode, let us know anything you think or anything that you want to
make us the perfect Trek podcast for you. Let us know because we are happy to change things up
until we are the place for people to go to for, for Trek and sci-fi.
Well, this really just started so we didn't ruin lower decks for people in the main show.
That's how they start.
Well, that's it. We started to the Trek show, didn't we? As a subsection to the variety show.
And we said, look, it's getting sometimes of 30 minutes, 45 minutes where we're talking about it,
maybe we should have it as a site, its own show. And that all shortened the variety show.
It didn't. The variety show got longer and longer without trekking it.
But that's another problem. And, oh, that's another thing. But no, then we got the Trek show and we
realised actually on average we're doing an hour to an hour and a half for the Trek talk as well.
So yeah, we just want to make that show for you. And if that means you tell us what you want,
we're going to listen.
So please tell us, send us ideas.
Speak to me. It reminds me of a joke I could tell you later.
Oh, OK. See you later, everybody.
Sorry, I thought you were Pat Butcher.
Love you.
Thank you for listening to the Channel 84 Untitled Trek Show.
This station is now shutting down and will be back in two weeks.
Excelsior.
Oh, hello there. Rob forgot to put that stupid noise at the end, didn't he?
Twat. Well, I don't know what you want from me. I'm just the voiceover man.
You're still here? For fuck's sake. OK, look, the guys are talking lower decks next week.
Send them some questions, will you? Needy little bastards are desperate for attention.
More shit show next episode too.
Now piss off, will you? I'm on a fag break. Go on, scram.