1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:18,960 This is a rated V TR Inside House! 2 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:20,960 The hell divers. 3 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,960 Become part of an elite peacekeeping force! 4 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:38,960 I don't want to set the world on fire. 5 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:50,960 I just want to start a flaming fire. 6 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,960 In my... 7 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,960 PEDS PLEASE! 8 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,960 PEDS PLEASE! 9 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:48,960 I just want to start a flaming fire. 10 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:54,800 So, as always, what sci-fi have you consumed in last Fortnite? 11 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,120 So, you asked me this earlier and I said, I haven't consumed any. 12 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,360 But we weren't on the podcast. 13 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:08,640 Oh, of course we were. The closest sci-fi I have consumed is Mad Max. 14 00:02:08,640 --> 00:02:09,680 Oh yeah, of course. 15 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,160 And to be fair, if you don't listen to the variety show, you wouldn't know. So yes, 16 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,920 I just saw Mad Max Fury Road for the first time, missed it the first time now, never got to see 17 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:21,280 it on streaming. And thanks to good old Cineworld and their Action Month, they had it on the 18 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:26,000 super-sized big screen, which was really nice. And I'm blown away by it. I thought it was really, 19 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,320 really good. Felt really sorry for the Nux character. Loved the cinematography of it all. 20 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,480 Like we discussed before, the whole storm scene with the giant tornado or whatever you want to 21 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:42,480 call it. Just absolutely stunning. Just loved the entirety of it. Thought it was really, really good. 22 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,560 I'd love to watch that. So I don't have it here, but say if I turned all the lights off and it 23 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,640 gets really flipping dark in here, even though we've got no curtains or anything, it still gets 24 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:55,040 really dark. With those ambi lights around the back of the TV, I'd love to watch it with that 25 00:02:55,040 --> 00:03:01,200 and have all the red colour coming on the wall. I don't have that though. One of the reasons I 26 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,920 don't have that, I don't like the camera thing. Like the really good ones seem to have this camera 27 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:08,400 that you're going to put on the top of your TV and it looks. 28 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:14,320 Oh, right. So yeah, no, no. So the, that's, I don't know if that's the Phillips Hue one. 29 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:20,800 Not quite because the Phillips Hue, there's two versions. The one I had, which I've just got rid 30 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:28,000 of, reads the image data from the TV. Sorry, the dog's drinking again. No, it's fine. 31 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:35,200 Yeah. So yeah, but anything on the HDMI and anything from the software, it can pick up the 32 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,840 and do the ambi light from that. So there's no camera involved. It's purely done by software 33 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:44,320 and the data it's reading from the four, well, three sides of the screen. 34 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:51,120 So fun fact, it must've been, I worked with this firm for 10 years. So it would have been 35 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:59,040 12 to 15 years ago. I installed one of the very first kits of this. And it was a two you 36 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:06,640 do rack mounted piece of equipment, which only took composite video feed. So you had to down 37 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:14,480 convert the HDMI signal to composite. And that's how it decoded the light channel. And then, 38 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:20,960 Oh, was it composite or was it RGB? I think it could do both, but I'm pretty sure it was just a 39 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:26,800 one yellow RCA composite that went into it. And then you could add a little touch screen on the 40 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:31,200 front where you could pick, we really had to go in on your computer and you could really mess with 41 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:40,000 it. But essentially you just had, you could pick a presets of what you kind of wanted. And then you 42 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:46,480 had to map that to led strips that you would physically install. So you had to get, um, 43 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:52,160 color changing led strips installed in a particular way in your cinema room, because it was for 44 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:58,400 cinemas. And we were, the problem that we had was the led strips were put in. And then this was an 45 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,960 afterthought. The led strips were just in cause the guy wanted color strips. So they weren't put in, 46 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:10,400 do you want them coming, um, from the screen back and around the screen? This wasn't like that. 47 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,600 Had it like a ring around the screen, then a ring around the middle, then a ring round the back. 48 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:18,320 And it just, that won't work whilst it looked really cool for the bits at the beginning, 49 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,880 where the whole idea was an explosion was meant to bring the light through and forwards. 50 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:26,160 That kind of stuff didn't work, which was such a shame. 51 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:30,240 Yeah. Because the ambi lights CVI had only had three strips on it. Had one across the top at the 52 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,320 back, one across the left at the back and one across the rise at the back. It didn't have 53 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,800 anything at the bottom, which was a shame, but yeah, when mounted on the wall, it meant it 54 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:44,160 immediately fired it against the wall. So yeah, you got great, great left, right and uplifting 55 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,640 up rising from the back and it looked brilliant. And yeah, anything that moved across the screen, 56 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,640 the color would move with it as well. So it wasn't just like, Oh, we've lit up the whole strip. It 57 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:58,480 was each segment of the strip. That was beautiful. I love it as a technology. I know that my cousin 58 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,400 has him, he's got one and I'm pretty sure he's got the one that has a camera on the top. And I just, 59 00:06:03,280 --> 00:06:07,920 you can see I like a clean, I've got pictures on the wall, but I want the TV's got to be clean. 60 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:13,920 Yeah. I just want thin bezel. And I've got like a soundbar underneath mine, but it's the width of 61 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:19,920 the screen. It's jet black. It looks like it was designed to be built into the TV or is part of 62 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:24,960 the TV. I don't like, I would not like to have that. Like even when I used to have the wee sensor 63 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,200 bar on the top of the TV, never really liked that being there very much. So I'd always take it off. 64 00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:33,680 If you're not using it, yeah, fair enough. I didn't like seeing stuff like that. Yeah, no, 65 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,960 I get that. I get that. That's kind of science fiction, isn't it? It is science fiction, but you 66 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:44,080 don't really see it in any, any, well, I don't know about any of the modern, modern trick, but 67 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,160 you would have thought that would have been something they would have, well, I guess the 68 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:53,040 holodeck really, you wouldn't need the shiny lights to make you feel in depth because you're in it. 69 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:57,600 But talking just the last thing you're saying about having the camera that would do it. 70 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:02,880 Yeah. I remember buying these cheap Chinese knockoff LED strips that had its own little 71 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,120 crap app that came with it that didn't work very well, but it would change the light colours 72 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:13,520 and it had a mode on the app that was like enable camera access and the instructions said, 73 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:19,360 place your phone on a tripod, point it at the screen, enable the camera, and then it would do 74 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:25,360 the LED strips for you. But you had to have your phone set up on a tripod watching the screen so 75 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:30,880 it could do it. How ridiculous. They're just like, okay, the technology can do it, but who's going 76 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:39,120 to do that really? Exactly. It was stupid. But yeah, that's the only sci-fi I've got. Not next 77 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:46,160 week. Oh, no, it is next week. Next Friday night, I'm off to go and see the new Planet of the Apes 78 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:54,800 film, which looks just really good. But that's about it sci-fi wise. I'm still gutted. I didn't 79 00:07:54,800 --> 00:08:01,360 get to see Diminishing Man. I am. And I'm gutted we're going to be missing episode one this weekend 80 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:08,000 of Star Wars. It would have been this Friday. Friday, Saturday, Sunday, it's on. And yeah, 81 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,680 neither of us have kids that will be in bed by the time it's showing the latest. So it's like, 82 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:17,760 we can't even get to it. But that would be the untitled Star Wars show. Yeah, that's the best 83 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:25,360 Star Wars by the way, everybody. Email me at TJ at channel84.co.uk. I'm going to set up a new email 84 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:32,640 address, you know, email, hate mail at channel84.co.uk. Complaints at channel84.co.uk and you'll never, 85 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:39,200 ever get a look at that. No, it will do. It'll just highlight them as like five star reviews 86 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,920 on the webpage instead. Like the Helldivers underneath. Yes. Have you seen they've got, 87 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:49,760 there is a one star one. No, every now and again, a one star one pops up and it says like, 88 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:57,600 redacted or something. Oh, yes. I have seen those. Genius. Absolute genius. 89 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:08,320 So what sci-fi have I been doing? Loads of Fallout. We finished Fallout. Oh, awesome. Yeah. See, 90 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:15,040 I still haven't got their own finished twisted metal yet because I've just, I'm not having a 91 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:20,080 chance to, I've rearranged my office. I'm not looking at the TV all the time. It's behind me 92 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:25,440 now, which actually means my work day, sorry boss has actually got a little bit better because I'm 93 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,280 not glancing at the TV so often. So I'm not even having it on. I've just got music on in the 94 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:34,480 background now. So I'm not actually having a chance to catch up on much, but Fallout is definitely on 95 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,320 my list because I keep just hearing these rave reviews about it. Do you ever play the games? Any 96 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:43,600 of them? I played the very original Fallout, the top down isometrics. Yeah. And then I kind of 97 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:51,280 played Fallout 3 and I, I just didn't get it. If that's a fair thing to say. I would say it's 98 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:59,680 taking Fallout 4 as its base. Right. Okay. And it's got to be one of, if not the best 99 00:09:59,680 --> 00:10:10,000 game to screen adaptions. And I won't have that mate. We all know the doom film. I knew you were 100 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:16,000 going to say doom. I just, I was going to say it, but I know I'm going to let you say that you think 101 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:22,800 the rocks doom is the right doom. I mean, what I did like, I did like little FPS bit in that, 102 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:29,120 which people slag off. Oh, it's so stupid, but it's lovely. Has that got the Judge Dredd dude in it? 103 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,840 He's awesome. Carl Urban. He's so cool in everything. I like Carl Urban. I like him in all 104 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:40,560 the rings. Um, lost. Yeah. So, but the reason why it's so good is because it's not doing the 105 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:48,160 Fallout story. It's just taken the world of Fallout. That's the same. And it's taken all the 106 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:55,040 cool aesthetics and the kind of silliness of it. And, you know, cause it's very tongue in cheek 107 00:10:55,040 --> 00:11:00,080 Fallout. It kind of like, it's a serious game, but not very serious at the centre. No one's cracking 108 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:05,120 jokes, but you can see it's a bit like, Oh, see what we did there. Oh, and that's very much what 109 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:12,560 the show's like. It feels like a live action Fallout and that's what it is. A live action Fallout. 110 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:17,280 And yeah, they really capture, I don't want to spoil this for you, but yeah, they really capture 111 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:25,280 the kind of naivety and innocence of a, of a vault dweller compared to the real harsh reality 112 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:33,280 of Wastelanders. You know, great twists, great bits going on every episode. You know, 113 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,920 it can be very violent, which is quite shocking for the wife cause she was like, I don't remember 114 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:42,720 the game being fun. It was like, no, it was. You would blow people's heads off. You'd particularly 115 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:47,200 aim for the head or the torso based on your aiming system and shoot it. And it would often 116 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:52,720 go, but just how it was almost kind of not a massive deal in Fallout. Yeah. That's what 117 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:58,320 happens. You blow someone's heads off and it was kind of cartoony-esque, but not cartoony-esque 118 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:04,000 kind of shows a bit like that too. You know, there's a very, everyone feels very, seems very 119 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,320 numb to the death of people. And I do kind of get that impression when you play the game, you're 120 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:14,960 very numb. Yeah. It's yeah. That makes sense. It's, it's very, what I'm getting at is it's very good. 121 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,680 And I highly recommend you watch that as soon as you can before somebody ruins it for you. 122 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:26,160 Right. Okay. Yeah. No, that sounds a good idea to me. I will fire that or I will try and fire it up 123 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,720 this weekend and start watching it in evenings. Maybe when everyone's gone to bed, I can sit in 124 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:35,840 the office in the dark and I'll put it on and I'll let you know my thoughts on it, but it is, yeah, 125 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:40,880 it's on my list. I am looking forward to watching it. Oh, hello. I've got a cat sniffing the 126 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:46,480 microphone. You want to say something about Fallout? She'd been watching, she sits there watching. 127 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,640 So what else have I had? Yeah. So we're two episodes into the discovery. I think we've been 128 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,720 two episodes into it for a while. We've started episode three, not that there's anything wrong 129 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:59,200 with it. We just on two occasions have started them and just paused it ended up just talking 130 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,960 or doing something else. Yeah. Fair enough. That's not a detraction to it. It's just that 131 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:08,080 for whatever reason, other things have happened, but I did want to get another episode in before 132 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:13,680 this show, but that does kind of speak a little bit about it because there's, if there was, 133 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:22,880 if there was any sort of show that you were absolutely 100% in love with, would you 134 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:29,040 start an episode show gun, for example, I know you finished that recently. Would you have started 135 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:36,720 an episode and stopped at a few minutes into talk or do something? Not in the same way. I would have 136 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,600 stopped to get the dogs out or stopped to have something to it, but yeah, I wouldn't have stopped 137 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:45,200 just to, for us to have a conversation. Yeah, exactly. So that, that, whether or not that 138 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:51,120 speaks volumes about discovery or not, I don't know. I'm, I'm still not sold on it obviously. 139 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,360 So I do still need to catch up on it. I know I've said that every episode we've had now, 140 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,680 but once I've caught up with it, I will let you know my, my true opinion. Once I've given it a 141 00:13:59,680 --> 00:14:04,960 fair chance, because there are bits that I've liked. As I said, I like it when they bring mud 142 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:09,120 on board and he's basically killing the captain every time. I think that's season one. It'd be 143 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:14,560 season one. So it had got its moments. It's just whether or not they were enough to actually keep 144 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:22,080 me interested. Talking about other sci-fi things though, that I'm looking forward to. Yeah. The 145 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:29,680 Borderlands film. Yes. The trailer looks great. Awesome. Just, it really felt like the game, 146 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:35,760 the trailer. Is it Helen Mirren? No, I'm so bad with Jamie Lee Curtis. No, the, 147 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:43,360 that's the name Jamie Lee Curtis. Jamie Lee Curtis is so bad with names for actresses. Yeah. I don't 148 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,920 know who the young actress is, but the older actress is Jamie Lee Curtis. The one from Halloween, 149 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:54,320 True Lies. I know the other lady. Oh, there's another lady in it. The main lady. I thought 150 00:14:54,320 --> 00:15:00,880 that was, hang on, I'm going to look it up now because that's what we do. Borderlands. We do a 151 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:06,880 lot of, oh, Cate Blanchett. Cate Blanchett. Yes. I'm so bad at. Yeah. No, fair enough. I'd forgotten 152 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:11,440 she was even in it to be honest. It's one of the main four people, right? What's that? One of the 153 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:18,560 main four people. Yes. Yeah. But it genuinely, and Jack Black as, um. Clap, Clap Trap. Clap Trap. 154 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:25,040 Yeah. Fantastic choice. Great casting. Yeah. It's genuinely, I just looked at it, thought about the 155 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:31,520 game, thought about playing Borderlands one and two, and then look back at the trailer and it just 156 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:38,240 fits. Well, you know, it's about to fall out quickly. You know the flying robot in Fallout? 157 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:45,280 Yeah. Guess who does his voice? Who? Matt Berry. Oh. If that's not reason enough for you to watch 158 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:51,920 the show. Bring on the trumpets. Yeah. And that dude, he got the memo. He knew exactly what to do. 159 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:56,240 I think he's called Mr Snips. His character might be called Mr Snips. 160 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:03,920 That is the, his, I don't care what anyone said. He's perfect for any role. James Bond, Matt Berry. 161 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:09,680 Indiana Jones, Matt Berry. There's some great scene where they do like flashbacks to before the war, 162 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:15,040 before the explosions. And there's a conversation with one character and Matt Berry 163 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:22,800 as the actor who sells his voice to the company. I am here every day of the week for Matt Berry 164 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:27,760 playing Matt Berry. Yeah. And they're, well, he's not as himself, but he's kind of is being himself. 165 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:32,880 He's not called Matt Berry. He's called whatever his name is. But like they say about how much it, 166 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:39,040 he got paid and he got a really low amount of money. And like, but I did get a robot and he's 167 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:44,000 like, who had fucking idea would think I want to have a robot with my own voice in my house greeting 168 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:52,080 me every day. You've got to watch it. Honestly, there's jokes like that all the way for it. It's 169 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:57,520 great stuff. That's just Matt Berry full stop. Just he makes any shot. If he's in it, I will 170 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:04,800 typically watch it. My, my employer's wife keeps telling me to watch what we do in the shadows 171 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:10,480 because we've both watched the film. Have you seen that show? Vampires? It's Matt Berry's in it. 172 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:15,440 So it's a show. It's a documentary about vampires. No. Oh my God. I'll lend you the DVD before you 173 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:20,000 go today. I've got the DVD a friend brought for me. Watch that. It's what they do in the shadows. 174 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:29,760 It's called, and it is literally a documentary film following vampires and he's in it. And so is, 175 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:39,360 I think it's the phone Jack guy, I think might be in it. And it's got the, um, uh, what's those New 176 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:43,440 Zealand guys that you like? Oh, the flight, the Concord. I think one of those guys is in it at 177 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:50,080 some point. Oh, Jermaine or yeah. Okay. Cool. And then the guy who is now also directed Thor. 178 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:57,840 Oh, New Zealand guy. Um, so rubbish. Everyone's gonna be laughing. I don't know. No, no, no. 179 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,360 Take a cheeky. Yeah. Something like that. I'm so sorry. 180 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:08,160 That guy's there's a lot of people in it. Well, they've done like four series of it. 181 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:13,520 Oh, right. Yeah. Okay. So yeah. And she keeps telling me to watch the series and I haven't 182 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:19,520 watched them. Oh, wow. Yeah. There's some big names in this, isn't there? Yeah. And the film 183 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:25,280 is utterly brilliant. It's so funny. Oh, right. There you go. I was right. Writers Jermaine Clement. 184 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:34,080 Yeah. Oh, that's very good. And Taiko Hiti. Yeah. I can take him or leave him. Funny enough. I like 185 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:39,760 him. I like him on the most part. Um, Fall Guy. I particularly liked his character in Fall Guy, 186 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:47,920 but I do feel he's a bit over the top sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, sorry. All right. Right. So 187 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:53,840 yeah, that's pretty, pretty much. That's Fallout. Nice. Okay. So Orville. Orville. 188 00:18:53,840 --> 00:19:01,120 Accessing library computer data. 189 00:19:01,120 --> 00:19:06,480 So the Orville season one episode one. Yeah. So we're not going to do a typical episode, 190 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,640 are we? That we go over the episode inch by inch, like we do with Trek. And in fact, 191 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:16,160 that may even change. We'll talk about that at the end, but we are, we are open to how you want a 192 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:22,080 Trek podcast to actually be and what should be in it. But we, I wanted to introduce Rob to what I 193 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:30,960 called the best Trek or the best non Trek Trek, I should say, because when Discovery came out, 194 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:36,560 I was sorely disappointed as we've discussed many, many times before. And at the same time, 195 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:43,360 your bill came out and I think you have said exactly right. What you said to Miranda this evening 196 00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:47,760 was exactly what I think was on everybody's lips. What was that? What, what, what did you say? 197 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:52,720 Family guy in space. Yeah. It was Seth MacFarlane. It's going to be American dad. It's going to be 198 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:58,800 family guy just in space. It's going to be slapstick comedy. And that's all we're going to get. 199 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:05,600 Now you've watched an episode. Yeah. Were you right or wrong? Let's, let's start with that. 200 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,840 It is not family guy in space. There's no giggity giggities. There's none of that 201 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:17,840 slapstick in the cartoony slapstick, dumb fuckery that family guy's famous for. None of that. No, 202 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:26,160 it, it's really hard to explain the Orville because in one way it is funny. It is full of comedy. 203 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:31,840 Like you text me on WhatsApp this afternoon. Why have I just seen a blue guy ejaculate through his 204 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:38,800 eyebrows? Yeah. And did you realise who that actor was? No. I was watching on my phone kind of 205 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:46,080 whilst working. Oh, fair enough. Okay. Well that was a fairly famous actor. He does come back as 206 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:51,600 well, by the way, that character. Okay. Wicked. Let me find who it was because I know the name, 207 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:59,600 but I don't want to get it wrong. Oh dear. I'm going to have to buy credit order. That should do it. 208 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:11,760 Maybe. Maybe. Dr. Kroger, Ogre, Yaffit. Rob Lowe. No way is it Rob Lowe. That is Rob Lowe. 209 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:17,200 Wow. And he turns up two or three more times through the series. That's hilarious. What great 210 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:22,720 makeup. Yeah, it's brilliant. And for those of you that don't know Rob Lowe, he was in Wayne's World 211 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:30,400 as the bad guy. He's in Austin Powers of the Pie who shagged me. He has been in so much over the 212 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:38,000 years. Fantastic actor. He plays... He doesn't age either. No, he doesn't. He's such an attractive 213 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:46,560 man who just doesn't age. Super jealous. But yeah, anyway. So yeah, you've got comedy in it, 214 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,800 but then at the same time it takes itself seriously. And I think the only way I can really 215 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:59,360 describe it is it's as if Star Trek actually based itself on real day to day how people 216 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:05,680 work together in an office environment. There's no overinflated egos. Well, there is overinflated 217 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:13,440 egos we'll see later on in different series, but there isn't any kind of command structure 218 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,720 like you see in Star Trek. You don't see kind of the ranks and the respect for each other. You just 219 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:23,760 see everyone as if they're working in an office. And you can imagine at the end of the day, they're 220 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:29,040 going to go down to their version and send forward and have a drink. Not all be kind of hoity-toisy 221 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:35,520 and I'm going to go and sit in my room that hasn't got a TV and listen to a bit of music and play my 222 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,840 piccolo like Captain Picard. You can imagine they finish their day. It's like, right, let's go and 223 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:45,920 get drunk. Well, like one of the guy in the Helms, the tactical... I don't know what one is, the black 224 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,800 dude and he's like, can I have a soda? The last captain let me have soda on the bridge. That is 225 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:56,000 a classic question. You can imagine somebody actually asking, the last captain let me have 226 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,880 soda on the bridge. Is that all right? And he's like, as long as you don't keep it, but as long 227 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:06,320 as you keep it below the equipment and don't spill it. Yeah. So yeah, that's Lieutenant Lamar, 228 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:13,600 John Lamar. And it's just classic, isn't it? It's exactly... So if you'd put that into Star Trek, 229 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:18,320 no questions would be asked. It would be... And in fact, go and look at the original series of films. 230 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:23,440 Kirk comes onto the newly refitted enterprise. Everyone's lined up waiting and he speaks to 231 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:28,240 someone and he's like, oh, Ensign First Class Captain, engineering, blah, blah. And it's like, 232 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:33,920 oh, well, standard ease Ensign, blah. It's all really formal. Yet, as you say, in this, it's 233 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,640 literally, right, you're my senior officers. Hello, can we still have soda? 234 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:48,800 Yes. Obviously my writing style is not anywhere near somebody who's making a show like this. 235 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:54,080 But I said to you and KJ is in the chat, didn't I? I was like, have I this whole time been actually 236 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:59,840 writing Orville fanfic and not Star Trek fanfic just because of the way I write our characters? 237 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:00,880 Pretty much. 238 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,000 It felt that way. 239 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:08,320 That's it. The Orville, for me, it just, it... You haven't got there yet and that's why it's 240 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:14,240 really difficult to go into this because you've seen the first episode, which is a fun episode. 241 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:20,000 We find out that his wife's cheated on him. He gets depressed. He finally gets a ship. 242 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:27,040 Uh-oh, ex-wife turns up as his second officer. Well, first officer, sorry. They go to a 243 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,840 science colony who've tricked them into coming there. We get the whole joke of we no longer need 244 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:39,840 to fear the banana, which is just a brilliant moment. Then the krill turn up, brilliant makeup, 245 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:45,520 by the way. All of the makeup in the whole show is good. Stand out was the makeup. 246 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:51,760 Then they blow up the krill ship with the giant redwood. Excellent. It's funny. It's fun all the 247 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:57,040 way through. And you're going to think, oh, well, it's funny and fun. The thing is when you get into 248 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:02,000 the series even deeper, you suddenly get storylines that you think, hang on, this isn't actually funny. 249 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,560 Yeah. And that's what's really important about the Auroville that people need to realise 250 00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:13,280 is it is actually doing Trek better than some Trek has done. So yeah, it's got its comedy moments, 251 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,920 which is really fun, but there are some episodes. So there is an episode in series one. In fact, 252 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:24,240 I think it's a two-parter or it's across a couple of parts where we know that Bortus is a, 253 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:30,000 the security officer is a single gendered species. In the next episode, episode two, 254 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:35,760 not wanting to ruin it, he lays an egg. And then later in the series, there's an entire kind of 255 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:41,440 two part where it's about gender reassignment being forced by one of the parents, 256 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,920 whereas the other parent doesn't want it. And then it's actually just a complete episode based on, 257 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,240 should we be forcing gender reassignment or shouldn't we, should we just allow it? 258 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,640 Should we just allow nature to take place? And it's a really, 259 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,680 it's not, there is very funny parts to it, but it's a really serious episode talking about 260 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:07,200 really serious things. And that's what people don't realise the Auroville is. It is a semi-serious 261 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:13,440 show. It's just got comedy aspects to it. I think if they, if you took the comedy out of it, 262 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:23,440 it would definitely be Star Trek. It, it, it had the look of it, it had the feel of it, the audio, 263 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:29,360 the music was just, it was like a Star Trek intro. Okay. It didn't do the, 264 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,560 do the warp and going through having the opening credits. Maybe it does that in other episodes. 265 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,680 Next episode, it's got an entire, yeah. But the music is spot on. 266 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,880 Yeah. The music's spot on. They had a model of the Auroville maid. So a lot of the shots are done 267 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,880 are a model, which is why it looks so good. You know what, when the clamps come off the ship, 268 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:56,000 I was looking at my phone thinking that looks like a model because you can now 90% of the CGI was 269 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:03,680 very good when they're doing the, um, hug the donkey. That's a little bit ropey. Yeah. But, 270 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,720 but I didn't attract from it. It just, it was a noticeable difference between. Yeah. But it was 271 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:16,320 dumb. That's it. Um, they were, and they're not afraid to be dumb in the shows, but at the same 272 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:23,200 time, they kind of get the point across. So this whole thing, this first episode is a fun, silly 273 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:28,000 episode, but there's still a serious undertone about the fact that his wife's cheated on him 274 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:33,520 and about accepting and apologizing and moving forward. So there's an entire understory there 275 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:39,840 that makes you drawn into the characters and want to be part of their lives and actually see 276 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:45,680 how they flourish and where they go from there. Yeah. It actually builds your want to know what 277 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,720 happens to these people. You don't want them to get hurt anymore, but you want to see where's this 278 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:56,400 going. One thing I liked, we're going to jump all over the place. He, when they blow up the 279 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:06,080 crew ship by super growing the redwood and he does the Arbor day, um, pun, which was quite funny 280 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:12,800 and is actually a clever pun. And then they're all like, nah, didn't land. And then she does a dumb, 281 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:19,040 basically penis joke about getting wood, which was very funny. Everyone laughs. And then he, 282 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:24,720 and then what made it funny was at the end is like, yeah, that was better. And that little bit extra 283 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:29,120 to Jones made it even that little bit more funny, but then there's even lots of little bits like 284 00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:35,920 they're on the shuttle back and he's been shot in the shoulder and the doctor said, how are, 285 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:41,360 it's unbearable pain is, oh, it means he's hardly been injured. I just said, I'm in unbearable pain. 286 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:46,480 He's like, no, he's just trying to get drugs. He's like, no, I'm not. Have you got drugs? 287 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:53,920 No, they're all on the ship. There's loads of stuff like that. Little things that I'd never 288 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,840 noticed the first time I watched it. And I don't know if you would have spotted. Did you spot when 289 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:02,960 they put the seat belts on? Yeah, there were seat belts. Yeah. No, no, they have lights on them. 290 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,440 I did. They went from red to green. Yeah, I noticed. Yeah. So cool. Just little things like that. 291 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:13,360 I did think that when he says everyone belt up and they do, I thought, why have they made a point 292 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:18,560 of pointing out? Obviously within the next five minutes, they do a sudden break and yeah, classic 293 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:23,680 kind of road, right? Obviously he must've turned the inertial dampeners off inside his space shuttle 294 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:32,560 for that guy to come flying forward. I don't know. As I said, I really, really, really like the Orville 295 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:40,480 second series might not have been so strong. And the third one I've been told isn't as strong again. 296 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:45,520 And from what I understand, I think Seth MacFarlane was, I didn't think he wanted to do as many 297 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,480 series. I think it was only meant to be a short lived thing, but he ended up in a contract having 298 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:55,680 to do it. So you kind of get the idea that there's not as much enjoyment. They're still good, 299 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:02,320 but yeah, you kind of kind of see it, it's dragging a little bit. So I'll see how you feel as you go 300 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:11,120 on through them. But is there any other, so as you say, we're jumping about, we've talked about 301 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:18,160 Lamar already and we've talked about Bortus, the security crew. Again, make up on him, 302 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:24,880 really straight off piss take of a Klingon, but done better. It looks more like bloody Tanagra 303 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:34,960 bloke. Darmock. And then you've got Ed, which is Seth MacFarlane, wherever he plays is just really 304 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,760 good. I've always kind of liked him. And the thing is you can always just hear Brian from Family Guy, 305 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:45,120 can't you? But let's talk about very quickly Gordon Malloy as well, his best mate. 306 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,320 The pilot. 307 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:53,360 The pilot. And I've got to say, I still stupid laugh when he's like, oh yeah, meet the ogre I'm 308 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:58,880 beating up. He's really cool, but I've given him a really cool personality. He's like, hi, 309 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,160 oh, your friends, nice. 310 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:06,480 I'm so happy for you guys. He was like a really nice dude, wasn't he? 311 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:12,320 Such a silly program. But I love the fact that it's just a complete piss take of the holiday. So 312 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,880 I've not programmed anything serious. I've just programmed something fun, which is what you'd 313 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:24,000 expect people to do. I programmed an orc samurai to fight. This is great. 314 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,720 It's just so silly. But I absolutely. And then when the Admiral was going on, didn't he draw 315 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:36,240 a penis on the display? He's drawn a lot of penises. Let's move on. 316 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,880 I'd like to see where the racist robots going to go. 317 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:48,400 Oh, that goes all over the place. That goes everywhere and so much more. There's a brilliant 318 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:57,120 episode coming up where he basically, again, complete piss take of Dazer, but he doesn't 319 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,640 understand what practical jokes are. 320 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:07,200 Oh, is it going to be like that really good Star Trek short where Spock doesn't get anything? Is 321 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:13,040 it Spock? I don't know which one you mean. Yeah, it's very much like that. Yes. In fact, 322 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:17,920 that may be where they kind of got the idea from. But um, suffice to say that one is 323 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:26,240 genius. That episode. I thought that the ship was really cool, but yeah, the makeup and the 324 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:31,440 creature design, I was getting a lot of inspiration from it because when I'm doing like the shit show 325 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:37,600 stuff, I am trying to just pull specifically just Star Trek because that's what it is. But I think 326 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:43,120 I might just start making a few shit things up. Like the blob thing that was going down the 327 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,280 corridor. He just runs through. It's like, yeah, no worry about it mate. It turns up throughout 328 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:53,120 the entirety of it. He's a brilliant, brilliant character. Um, he has a love interest who doesn't 329 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:59,360 love him back, which you'll find out about. What a shame. Um, it's just, it's very easy. 330 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:05,360 Oh, again, who did his voice? Um, I recognize his voice, you know? Yeah. I know the voice as well. 331 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:12,160 And I'm honestly, uh, Norm McDonnell. Let me, yeah, I know who that is. Oh, okay. Cool. So you know 332 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:17,520 who that, so yeah, he's the voice of, um, Yaffit. Uh, why do I know that name though? 333 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:24,880 Well, this he's done. Oh, that's it. He's the dog in Dr. Do-Little. Well, he's passed away now, 334 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:31,840 isn't he? Uh, oh shit, he has, yeah. 2021. Yeah. And he did a lot of voice in Family Guy, of course. 335 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:37,280 A lot of them did. Yeah. He was Death in Family Guy. Oh, was he? Yeah. Um, 336 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:44,720 just, it's brilliant. I don't really know what else to say about it at this point, 337 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:50,480 because I know you've only watched one episode. Um, sticking with the kind of the set dressing I 338 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:55,600 get, the ship looks good and you get to see more of the ship and obviously highly influenced from 339 00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:00,400 Star Trek. Yeah. But I would suggest a large amount of it has also been influenced by Galaxy 340 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:06,400 Quest. Yes. Um, it definitely felt very Galaxy Quest-y. Yeah. The Galaxy Quest is funny in the 341 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:14,320 same way. Precisely. Um, the uniforms, I really liked. Yeah. The uniforms were great. It's great 342 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,000 because the colours are all different from Star Trek. Yeah. The red guys aren't going to die or 343 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:25,120 whoever. I just thought the uniforms actually kind of fit what they're doing. It looks the part and, 344 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:34,800 I don't know, I know the Star Trek uniforms only kind of evolved. So they all do look similar, 345 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:40,640 but it's nice to see something slightly different to what we get with Star Trek. I would have liked 346 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:46,800 if they'd kind of, when it came to Discovery and they're off into the future for the uniforms to 347 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:52,320 have drastically changed. Yeah. But it doesn't look like it has. I mean, from the pictures I've 348 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:58,640 seen, it doesn't look like it has. I still don't like the teleportation stuff. Transportation, 349 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,920 stuff in Discovery, how they can just touch their bag and they fucking teleport anywhere. 350 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:11,520 Oh really? I'd love to, so Neil deGrasse Tyson, he has a podcast, I think it's called Star Talk, 351 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:20,960 and celebrities ask him questions. I would love to ask him his theory on whether, just to imagine 352 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:28,240 if Star Trek transportation was real, if it was real, are you the same person when you come out 353 00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:34,800 the other side or have you died? That's a really deep question because it's true, isn't it? 354 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:41,440 It's a question I want to do for the Trek show at some point because I think 355 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,360 spoilers for when you get there. I think you're dead. I think I brought this up before. 356 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:52,160 You have done, but you've got to base your question on what would you consider 357 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:58,400 alive? Would you consider just the biological functioning of your body to be alive, as in the 358 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:04,960 heart's beating, the brain is operating, you're breathing, therefore you are alive, or do you 359 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:13,520 consider being alive having a soul? We're getting a bit away from the over now, I can fully 360 00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:25,200 grasp the concept of moving your physical atoms and molecular structure from one place to another, 361 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,520 like that quantum entanglement thing where if one thing affects something somewhere else, 362 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:38,000 that I get. But the stuff inside your brain that makes you you, the untangible stuff of thought 363 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:46,000 and presence and, quote unquote, soul, how do they move that from one place to the other? Or is it 364 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:54,320 just because the exact chemical makeup of your brain has created that inside you? So that would 365 00:36:54,320 --> 00:37:00,480 be you again over there. So that's what you've got to look at. If you're looking at science 366 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:07,040 aspects, and although we don't really know much about the brain in realistic terms, we don't, 367 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:15,200 what makes the brain remember things? It's a big pink chunk of meat with loads of nerves in it. 368 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:23,920 So how the hell does that even work? So you could say that the transporter is just creating an 369 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,720 exact chemical clone of your biological and chemical clone of you, which means that's why 370 00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:32,320 all your memories there. That's why your actions are the same. That's why you think the same, 371 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:38,080 because the chemical balances, the makeup of your pink squidgy meat in your head is exactly the same 372 00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:46,880 as it was in the original one of you. But then if you wanted to go the philosophical way, 373 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:52,080 you've got to say, well, surely your soul is something more than just a chemical balance and 374 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:58,240 meat in your body. There must be something more. It's down to what you then believe. Do you go 375 00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:08,080 down that route of philosophy and consciousness, psychology, and all of that side of things, 376 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:13,200 or do you stick with the science approach of you're just a big bag of chemicals and in the 377 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,840 right numbers, in the right places, you get what you get? 378 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:22,320 You get what you get. I'm in some weird place in between, because I think if you have the ability 379 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:29,360 to move one to the other, could you then not supplant one of those into somebody else? So, 380 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:39,040 you know, like a body swap episode, you know, you and I both teleport. I said it. I'm owning it. 381 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:48,880 I'm yeah, no, but they move those brain compositions from mine to you and you to mine. 382 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:55,200 We're clearly not the same person anymore. I'm now all of my thoughts, memories and everything, 383 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,840 but in your body, could they do that? Do you think? 384 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:05,280 I don't know. I mean, the question moves anyway, isn't it? Because realistically, 385 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:11,200 teleportation, transportation, whatever you want to call it, isn't going to be possible. But if it 386 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:19,520 was, I genuinely don't know what the answer would be. Because then you create an exact replica of 387 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:27,280 someone. Is it murder when you decompile the other one or kill the other one? Yeah, but this is it, 388 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:33,040 isn't it? Does it become murder? Is it just, I mean, we live in a fucking world where in some 389 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:37,680 countries, abortions are legal at the moment at the point of it just being a couple of cells. 390 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:43,120 Yeah. And we're talking about allowing transportation where an entire human body is basically 391 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:49,440 scanned, broken down into large little chunks of data, transported, and then the original mass is 392 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:55,840 just, I presume, obliterated. Because all it needs is it to be totally fine. Let's use the 393 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:01,360 abortion analogy quickly without getting too in-depth into the politics of it. 394 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:07,840 Legal, then suddenly not legal. So let's do that with, I'm going to keep saying teleporting, 395 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:14,080 it's more comfortable to me. O'Brien, he's the man there with the dial to teleport you around. 396 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:22,880 Well, Starfleet leader, emperor, whatever the fucking hell the person at the top of the Starfleet 397 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:27,280 is, right then and there, yeah, that's fine. We're using teleporters. It's great. Well, 398 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:32,960 suddenly he gets voted out and some nut job gets voted in. And he says suddenly, no, that is not, 399 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:38,720 that is murder. And I'm going to go back in time and anyone that's been doing a teleportation, 400 00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:43,680 you've been murdering people. O'Brien's murdered like a few million people because of how many 401 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:49,520 teleportations he's activated. He's going to go and get guillotined or whatever they do in Starfleet. 402 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,760 I don't know if they've got, they must have corporal punishments. 403 00:40:53,760 --> 00:41:01,120 Starfleet. You get put in the brick, don't you? Well, in Discovery, somebody does get, one person, 404 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:07,840 part of the show does get punished by Starfleet. And I think he gets sent to another planet where 405 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:15,520 he has to kind of do like aid work and stuff. But he's forced to do it. It's like, you have to do 406 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:22,000 this. This is your punishment. Interesting. Okay. If you either go to this prison planet or you do 407 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:27,360 this, that kind of thing. She bite you. Yeah. You cheeky little mad. I'm sorry. I'm being bitten 408 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:34,880 by a cat now. Scoob. Do not drink. She likes rough-out. Yeah. Sorry. We went on a massive 409 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:43,840 way away from your villa at that point. What else have on the other characters? The Doctor 410 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:51,600 is a brilliant character. And she, her entire character gets a load more progression, 411 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:58,800 which is really good because the actress that plays her is phenomenal. As she gets some brilliant, 412 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:08,000 brilliant episodes to her. And then you've got the young security officer. No, Ketan. Not Ketan. 413 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:14,800 I know who you mean. She's like 21. That's the one. Yeah. She's got Ketan. Sorry. Yeah. That's it. 414 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:20,080 Alara. And she's got her super strength. And it's just so silly how they make a jump. 415 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,960 But she's like, reeeee. She knocks down that safe door and he's like, I loosened that for you. But 416 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:29,680 she just takes out the entire wall. But that's the perfect amount of humour just needed for that 417 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:34,800 situation. But you or I would say that. That's the exact thing that I would say if someone knocked 418 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:39,040 a warden. Yeah. I loosened that. It's exactly what I'm saying. I started it for you. Yeah. Just 419 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:44,080 to interject, just quickly, the only part of the entire episode I did not like was the very first 420 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:49,280 interaction between him and the Doctor and his reaction to her. Oh, what? You're saying I'm going 421 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:57,920 to fail? Yeah. That came out of nowhere for me. I don't know. I think I liked it because this is 422 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:05,360 his first captain. Yeah. And he's already feeling wary that the whole world's against him. Well, 423 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:11,840 it's showing his insecurity. Yes. But I just thought maybe later in the episode that would 424 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:17,280 have fitted to me a bit better. Does that make sense? It just, or have that conversation in 425 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:23,280 episode two or three. That would have felt better to me. But because he was going from, I think he 426 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:29,920 went a couple of funny interactions and then that one. Yeah. But then don't forget that interaction 427 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:34,320 ends with him saying, so you don't think I've got the balls for it. I'm your chief medical officer. 428 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,880 If your balls are under par, oh no. Yeah. And then it's funny again. It's just that very first bit 429 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,720 where he's so defensive. And so I was like, oh, it was jarring. And then, okay, it's fine again. 430 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:48,160 And that was literally the only bit of the entire episode I didn't like. Fair enough. That five 431 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:53,200 second moment. I've got some questions for you. Okay. Hang on. Let me just say my favourite, 432 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,920 favourite part of the episode. I want to know what your favourite part was. Yeah. It's a really 433 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:03,200 stupid part. And there's me saying it's a semi-serious show just with comedy thrown in. 434 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,800 And then I'm choosing the really stupid thing. But it's when he's got the krill on the view screen 435 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:14,000 and he's like, hold on, can you just take a step to the right, please? I can't concentrate on 436 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:19,680 anything else. There's so much empty space. Yeah. I've got a little comment about that actually, 437 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:25,760 because Star Trek do it too. He then starts talking to her, he's still talking to the krill, 438 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:30,880 but then he's like going damage report, do that. And they're talking about specific things they 439 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:37,520 might not want the enemy to know. And then they say mute the comm afterwards. So the krill already 440 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:42,240 knows they've got no deflectors or something and they've got something else wrong. And then they 441 00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:47,200 get muted. It's like, no, you should be muting that. Yeah. But if you think about it, they've 442 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,200 got what they want on board their ships. They can't destroy the Orville because they'll lose what 443 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,880 they're after. So they're not going to attack them anyway. So it doesn't matter if they know 444 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,920 there's no deflector and whatever. Yeah. But it also, for me, it just goes to show the, 445 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:06,560 how wet behind the ears this crew are on their kind of first exploratory vessel, I guess. That's 446 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:12,160 how I took it. Yeah. I'm just trying to think because I watched it throughout the day, like in 447 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,640 little spurts. So I'm going to watch the episode again with Miranda fully to probably get, but I 448 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:21,120 mean, I would say I absolutely loved it. I'm going to probably watch them all that I really like. So 449 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:26,240 I'm definitely going to watch season one at least. Try and remember there was one bit I laughed out 450 00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:31,600 loud and I was quite surprised that I found it so funny. Now I can't remember what it was, but I 451 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:38,000 did really like the York scene. It might be the York scene. The York scene is, if I hadn't said 452 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:43,760 the views, I would have said the York screen. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, sorry. Right. You had 453 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:48,400 questions. Right. So they're going to be quite difficult questions because they're just taken 454 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:54,480 from my notes. So what year will see you on earth in the first part? Cause you didn't watch the 455 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,080 episode, did you? You're just going by memory? No, no, no. I watched the episode today. But. 456 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:03,840 So in the first 10 seconds, it tells you what year it is. 23 something. 2418. Oh, not too bad. 457 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:11,760 Okay. Right. Um, not star dates and that year and actual year. Yep. The blue ice bunked monster. 458 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:20,800 Yeah. Remember what species he is? Nope. The tepsi. Riteps. Riteps. Yes. Okay. Now, 459 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:28,160 Seth McFarlane's character gives that reception a nickname later on. What does he call him? Where 460 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:36,000 he accuses her of fucking insert word here. Oh, I wish I'd known you were going to question me. I 461 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:43,120 would have watched it that much closer now. Go on. What is it? Puppersmith. Yes. That's it. 462 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,000 And the last one. No, I'm going to do another one. I've already said it today. What's the, 463 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:54,480 what's the flying maneuver that they do to get. Oh, hug the donkey. Yeah. Last one. This is very 464 00:46:54,480 --> 00:47:02,240 difficult. What's the code that he says to the guy to activate the age machine when it's on the 465 00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:07,600 cruise ship. I specifically can write it down because I want to look at it and see if it meant 466 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:13,040 something. I thought it'd be a hidden joke. So I'm going to have to search something six, 467 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:21,120 something, something alpha or six alpha nine three seven alpha three zero zero. I wasn't really 468 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,120 expecting you to get it, but I want, I've got it written down. I thought it was going to spell like 469 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:32,560 tits or boobs. Yeah. You know, like what's a woman of 55 want it to be 37. So she ate nothing and 470 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:39,760 nothing. She ate, then she became boobless. Oh no. Yeah. It doesn't do anything. I can tell upside 471 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:44,160 down. I think it might, it could well just be a number. It could be production number. It could 472 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,240 be something to do with the studio. That's what I mean. I bet it means something because they 473 00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:57,920 always do this. I mean, I do it too. They all mean something. So overall, really glad to have 474 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,400 watched it. I can't believe I said he's going to murder me because he's been telling me to year 475 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:07,200 for years to watch it. And I never did. And it's taken me to push you to do it. You and a podcast 476 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,920 to get me to do it. And I'm so glad I did because I really enjoyed it. And it does only get better 477 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:17,280 from here. Say you get the slightly darker episodes, you get the slightly lighter hearted episodes. 478 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,760 Oh, another thing actually I really like, and you say about kind of what they kind of dropped in, 479 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:30,960 in certain bits, it doesn't spoil it for you. But in one of the next few episodes, 480 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:36,320 he has Kermit the frog on his desk and he does an entire like one minute speech about 481 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:41,600 who Kermit the frog is. He does a great impression of Kermit. Oh, Seth MacFarlane. I could watch him 482 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:46,480 doing impressions all day. He does a brilliant Liam Neeson one. He's a really good singer too. 483 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:51,680 Oh, his albums are on my library. I haven't actually got the albums. I've just heard him 484 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:56,640 do singing. He's brilliant. He is absolutely brilliant. But if you haven't seen it, he does 485 00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:07,360 that famous Liam Neeson taken speech as Kermit the frog. Oh, brilliant. And it is just wonderful. 486 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:15,120 Command functions are offline. Oh, you're so good at pushing my button. I know. Sorry. I do do it. 487 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:20,480 I do it with a bit of flair too, don't I? Come around. Oh yeah, single finger right on the dot. 488 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:25,840 That's it. So that's that. That is not a particularly long one today, but... 489 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,040 Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. 490 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,480 It's not always a bad thing. There is more shit show coming everybody. 491 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,400 We're just working on it, aren't we? 492 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:38,720 It's in the brain at the moment, not yet onto paper. But the ideas there just needs to be... 493 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,040 I think what a lot of people need to understand with the whole shit show stuff, 494 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:48,480 the amount of effort you put into it about coming up with the idea, writing the script for it, 495 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:54,800 very much like the videos we've done or we have done and we will do, how much effort goes into 496 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:59,040 coming up with just the idea, let alone with where that idea is going. And as you said, 497 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:07,200 and whether people know this, it's a ongoing story arc. So where is it ending up has all been 498 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,040 considered already. So actually I'm looking forward to seeing where you go with it. 499 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:16,560 It's a lot of, it's kind of a join the dots kind of scenario because I know the beginning and the 500 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:22,480 end and I'm putting points in the middle and then trying to join them all together. 501 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:23,760 Yeah. 502 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:30,800 And I'm, I keep saying people have got ideas, send them in because like the whole, the whole, 503 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:36,560 the kind of arc we're going through at the moment with the anomaly and stuff has all come from the 504 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:42,000 Apollo Cthulhu guys making their one up. That was their idea to have the warped core impregnated. 505 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:48,080 And that's driving that's then become canon to the story. 506 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:54,480 And it's driving it through to the, to this next episode, which is still going to where I want it 507 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:59,760 to go. It's just giving me a little avenue to kind of divert slightly and have another bit of fun 508 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:07,200 with it. So yeah, people have got ideas. Great. Again, if you want to be in it, message me and 509 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,760 there's always space. Yeah. 510 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:14,720 We're always looking for alien voices, random ensign or captain voices, you name it, just send 511 00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:20,240 it in and we can add it even if it's just background chatter that we can use in a 10 forward 512 00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:22,000 scene one day. Yeah. 513 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,640 Be great to have some just lots of audio that we can just scrape together and use when we need. 514 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:33,840 Exactly. So where can we be found? We are on Twitter for the main show at underscore 515 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:39,680 untitled Trek. So I've got to say with that brilliant thing on Twitter, Elon Musk put up a 516 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:48,720 comment saying X is the superior brand or something like that to Twitter. How do you still, 517 00:51:48,720 --> 00:51:55,920 which do you still use? And Mark Hamill retweeted it going Twitter. It will always be Twitter. X is 518 00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:01,440 stupid. You've just been told by Luke Skywalker, mate. Yeah. Jog on. 519 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,960 It's, it's going to take a long time for people to. 520 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,320 I don't think anyone ever will. It's a generational thing. 521 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:14,080 I genuinely think what's going to happen is it's going to become either so untenable as a 522 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:21,280 social media platform for everyone or for him that it'll either shut down or he'll be forced to sell 523 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:25,440 it. And whoever then buys it. We'll move it back. We'll move it back to being Twitter. 524 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:33,360 Yeah. It's a weird one, isn't it? It's just, he's kind of killed the brand of it. 525 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,760 Yeah. I mean, I kind of don't really like him or hate him or whatever. I'm just going to 526 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:44,400 indifferent to him really. And, you know, I had a Twitter account before, but didn't start using it 527 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:50,080 till the podcast. And at that point it was becoming X. So for me, it doesn't make a difference, but you 528 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:55,840 had a lot of people use it for a lot longer because I preferred Twitter over Facebook, but 529 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,760 it's very hard to find any social media. I like any more. 530 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:04,400 I just hate all social media in general. It's a means to an end a lot of the time, 531 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,560 but we are on social media. So yes, you can find us on Twitter. You can find us on threads. You 532 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:13,600 can find us on blue sky. You can find us on Facebook. You can find us on discord and all 533 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:18,560 of those. You can find it channel84.co.uk. All our links are there. And if you want to get onto 534 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:23,680 discord really quickly and easily, don't worry about an invite code. Just go to channel84.co.uk 535 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,520 forward slash discord. And that will take you straight to the invite and straight into the 536 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,320 server where you can come and talk to us about Trek and everything else. 537 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,640 You do that so much better. It's just ingrained into your brain. I really have to sit here and 538 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:42,240 come back. Well, that's everything, is it? Next week. Oh no, I did it next week. 539 00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:50,400 It's the end. I haven't done it for episodes upon episodes. And now I finally do it. 540 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:55,040 Good. Just before he carries on with that, you can also email us at TJ at channel84.co.uk. If 541 00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:00,400 you wish to speak to me, if you wish to speak to Rob, you can email rob at channel84.co.uk. If 542 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:07,120 you wish to speak to the patron saint, Karen, you can do now, which is patron saint at channel84.co.uk. 543 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:12,160 And if you just want to email just me and Rob together, send it to podcasts. That's podcast 544 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:19,360 plural at channel84.co.uk. And that will come to both of us. That's right. And sorry. Now back to 545 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:26,080 you. So what was I going to say? Oh yeah. So the next episode, I'd like it to be another question 546 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:31,440 one. Okay. Cause I really enjoyed that question when we did a few episodes ago. So if anyone's got 547 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:37,440 any start, want to know our thoughts on anything to do with Star Trek or even just sci-fi in general, 548 00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:42,400 or if they just got something, they they've got an opinion on something we have spoken about. 549 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:47,360 They think we're wrong or right about, like we've been vindicated on by the Lower Decks book 550 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:53,040 on what happens with fluid in the holiday. Indeed. We have talked about that on that episode. I think 551 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:59,440 it's time. Uh, yeah, just send it in DM me on Twitter. My DMS are open, you know, email either 552 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:07,120 of us podcast, even email it to Karen at Patience. Say exactly what I will say. And I've put this on 553 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,880 Twitter and I've put it on threads. I didn't put it on blue sky because I couldn't remember my 554 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:21,600 login at that point. Um, we want Untitled Trek show to be the listeners show more than anything. 555 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:26,480 So what we want is we want to make a show that you actually want. We don't want to just be another 556 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:32,400 Star Trek podcast that are doing just episode reviews and going over the same old turf that's 557 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,880 been gone over a million times before. So if there is something in particular that you think 558 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:43,440 a trick podcast should do, tell us and we will happily see if we can incorporate that. 559 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:49,600 If you think actually episode reviews are done to death and you don't want them, say so. If you think 560 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:56,480 what we'd actually like to do is more deep dive on specific characters in an episode or a series 561 00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:01,040 rather than looking at the episode, let us know anything you think or anything that you want to 562 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:07,280 make us the perfect Trek podcast for you. Let us know because we are happy to change things up 563 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:13,760 until we are the place for people to go to for, for Trek and sci-fi. 564 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:19,680 Well, this really just started so we didn't ruin lower decks for people in the main show. 565 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:20,640 That's how they start. 566 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:25,680 Well, that's it. We started to the Trek show, didn't we? As a subsection to the variety show. 567 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:30,800 And we said, look, it's getting sometimes of 30 minutes, 45 minutes where we're talking about it, 568 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:35,440 maybe we should have it as a site, its own show. And that all shortened the variety show. 569 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:39,040 It didn't. The variety show got longer and longer without trekking it. 570 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:44,160 But that's another problem. And, oh, that's another thing. But no, then we got the Trek show and we 571 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:48,720 realised actually on average we're doing an hour to an hour and a half for the Trek talk as well. 572 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:54,240 So yeah, we just want to make that show for you. And if that means you tell us what you want, 573 00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:54,960 we're going to listen. 574 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,360 So please tell us, send us ideas. 575 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,440 Speak to me. It reminds me of a joke I could tell you later. 576 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,120 Oh, OK. See you later, everybody. 577 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,480 Sorry, I thought you were Pat Butcher. 578 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:08,160 Love you. 579 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:08,720 Love you. 580 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,360 Thank you for listening to the Channel 84 Untitled Trek Show. 581 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:21,280 This station is now shutting down and will be back in two weeks. 582 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:34,400 Excelsior. 583 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:39,680 Oh, hello there. Rob forgot to put that stupid noise at the end, didn't he? 584 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,360 Twat. Well, I don't know what you want from me. I'm just the voiceover man. 585 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:50,000 You're still here? For fuck's sake. OK, look, the guys are talking lower decks next week. 586 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:54,880 Send them some questions, will you? Needy little bastards are desperate for attention. 587 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,880 More shit show next episode too. 588 00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:24,880 Now piss off, will you? I'm on a fag break. Go on, scram.