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All across America and around the world, this

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is Veterans Radio. This is Veterans Radio. And

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now, your host for today's program, Dale Throneberry.

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Hello. Good afternoon and welcome to Veterans

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Radio. My name is Dale Throneberry. I was a CW

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-2 helicopter pilot in Vietnam, 1969. centuries

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ago, it seems nowadays. Welcome to our benefits

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program. Some of you got a flyer that said that

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somebody else was going to be on, but they kind

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of messed up sending out our flyer this week.

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But no, we're going to have benefits, benefits

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and benefits. We're going to be talking about

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some of the news that's going on with the VA.

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A couple of topics might be community care. We've

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got a VA health hospital story to talk about.

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We've got lowering numbers of disabilities. I've

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got two experts with us here. I've got David

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Sames, who is the executive director of the Washtenaw

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County Michigan Veterans Service Office. And

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I've got Carol Ann Falzone, retired Air Force

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Brigadier General with legal help for veterans.

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So they are our experts here. And if you stick

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so let's get into the program here And welcome

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in our guests. So number one Ladies first is

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retired Brigadier General of the United States

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Air Force, Carol Ann Falzone. Carol Ann, welcome

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back to the program. Thanks, Dale, and welcome

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to David. And it should be an interesting program

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with the developments around our world. Absolutely,

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absolutely. And David Sames, as I mentioned,

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is the Executive Director for the Washtenaw County

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Michigan Veterans Service Office. David, welcome

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back to Veterans Radio. Thanks a lot Dale glad

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to be here. Well, I'm glad to have you here too.

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So let's talk about I guess the big news is Well,

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there's a lot of big news going on with the VA.

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It seems like on a daily basis but the one thing

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that was interested in was the news about the

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Let's see. It says that Department of Veterans

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Affairs has pushed its backlog of disability

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compensation and pension benefits claims to below

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$100 ,000 for the first time since 2020. Can

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either one of you like to comment on that? It

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seems like they're pushing these benefit applications

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through like crazy. Well, yeah. Go ahead, Carol.

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No, go ahead, David. Yeah, I think we're seeing

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it in our office where, yeah, the claims are

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going faster, but quality might have been being

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hit a little bit. You know, the presumptive ones

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are easy, you would think, but then they're getting

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gone through and they're missing some simple

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stuff. Right. And then you have to go back, which

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is not bad. You got supplemental claim lane or

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higher level review. I've seen both those lanes

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go a little slower. They have been really focusing

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on turning out ratings. But I think the quality

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has dipped a bit. David, I want to duplicate

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that. Comment because um, yes, I agree. They've

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dropped. However, um, I want to say Six out of

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ten maybe eight out of ten decisions that we

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get our letters are there's errors and we have

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to go back and either if they've made a decision

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on one piece as you said they they've overlooked

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three other areas for the same veteran. And so,

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yes, they're spitting out less than, you know,

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this amount, but I think the errors, and also

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another thing that I would like our veterans

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to be aware of are the breaches. When I'm calling

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the breaches, it's my claim, but in my claim,

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I have another person's decision, another veteran's

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decision, or a piece of something that I didn't

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even claim. We just had one recently where they

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sent one of our poor veterans literally over

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100 miles to get an exam for something that wasn't

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even on the claim, had to give up a day of work

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when he was told, and then when we get this results

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back, it's like, wait a minute. That's not even

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a claim for him. And so, yes, there are errors

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that are occurring. So you really need to read

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and be aware of what you ask for and carefully

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read the decision and what it means. You think

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that they're just going too fast? Well, too fast.

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And also keeping an eye on dates, you know, the

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data claim. And it's the education. You know,

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they had a big push to hire a lot of Raiders,

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you know, when the PACT Act came about and the

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quality has dipped. And I've heard it from when

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I have the higher level reviews and they, the

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VA has acknowledged saying, yes, the quality

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is not there. These things that the Raiders shouldn't

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miss. And then keeping an eye on those dates.

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Yep, especially when you ask for effective dates

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beyond going back a year and some of the, when

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they're going to type them out, the dates don't

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match either. You're right, David, right on.

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And so it's really a concern right now. Not that

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we're not being attentive, but it seems like

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we need to really go beyond with some of these

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decisions that are coming out. Do either one

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of you think, and I don't know enough about it,

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but do you think that they might be utilizing

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some form of AI in judging some of these claims?

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That they're looking for certain words or they're

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looking for certain terminology and if it's not

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there, then it either gets rejected or if it

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is there, gets approved. I mean, I'm not familiar

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with it, but it seems like some of these are

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becoming rather arbitrary. And some of them are

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there are mistakes in there, as you mentioned.

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No doubt about it. They're using that. And I've

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heard where they have an internal AI program

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that they're using to speed up some of these

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claims. But on the other side, you can also use

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that to put that and look at appealing it and

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doing the research has been tremendously helpful

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in helping appeal some of those acclaims. I don't

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know about you, Carol, if you use it at all.

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No, we have not been. It's been, you know, we

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haven't tweaked maybe to look for some research.

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Um, we've used AI, but not literally to file.

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Um, and, and so, um, no, I, you know, I will

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mention that, but no, we have not used that in

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that fashion. Okay. I wasn't referring more to

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what you folks are using the AI, but I was thinking

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about the VA is looking at some of these claims,

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utilizing some sort of AI program and, you know,

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Like I said, I don't understand exactly how it

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works. But you know, I know it's designed to

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speed up things. And maybe that's something that's

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occurring out there. You know, and they talk

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about the idea of, you know, the claims backlog

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is less than 100 ,000. And I guess, looking at

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these numbers here, it said that claims become

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backlogged once they've been pending more than

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125 days. So they've cut out so many of those

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Well, yeah, yes, but as David mentioned in the

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beginning so they make a quick decision and it's

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dropped less than a hundred thousand but now

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we're in the appeal process where it's higher

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level review supplemental and now we're talking

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the appeal to BBA and I was approaching one the

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other day that's going to be Three and a half

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years. So three and a half years. Certainly Dale

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is greater than a hundred and a hundred and twenty

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days So they they jumped it to another level

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when I would have loved that statement We've

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dropped it to less than a hundred thousand for

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all the areas BBA, you know higher level reviews

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that then for me that would be significant if

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the quality of care were there um even for the

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less than 120 days but I'm not seeing the quality

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so I'm a little skeptical okay well it sounds

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like those are uh super backlogged then you know

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one more level of backlogging if you're out there

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for three and a half years or so and I know I

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mean that really hasn't changed that much it

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seems like over the last 20 years or so that

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sometimes a claim gets kind of lost in you know

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in some vortex out there. And, you know, they

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keep constantly looking for information to, you

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know, to verify or deny. And I'm just hoping

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that, you know, when, as you mentioned, David,

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when, you know, COVID was over, they hired a

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number of, of raiders, I guess you could say,

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which didn't work out. And then when the current

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administration came in, they got rid of a lot

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of people. And now it looks like they're trying

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to hire people back. um because they found out

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that they you know that they they just need more

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people around and i'm hoping that they've you

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know that they're able to um hire good qualified

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people to help with these claims because it's

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you know it's it's well we all know how important

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it is and these men and women deserve these um

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you know these compensation for whatever that

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they're you know that they're applying for as

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long as it's a legitimate claim then they're

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They're entitled. It's too bad that it gets a

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little bit murky. Let's put it that way. Well,

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you know, David, I mean, and Dale, the thing

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that's interesting is, yes, when a lot of these

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individuals back in, say, August, September had

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the chance to leave, and a lot of them great

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people, I can mention at least a half a dozen

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names. but we're talking each of them had 20

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to 30 years experience. I've been only doing

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this 15 years and I've learned a little, but

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all the things that I still have to learn. David,

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much more experience than I, but when that amount

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of experience walks out the door and you're hiring

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these new people that are brand new, you can't

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make up for that experience. there's definitely

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going to be errors. And the learning curve, I

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think, is huge in this environment. Oh, I totally

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agree. And you talk about appeals and Yeah, you'll

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throw it into supplemental and then the same

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rating will come through with the same error

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So then you're like, oh well, you got a higher

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level review and then you go do that and The

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coach says yeah. Yeah, you're totally right We're

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gonna remand this and then it goes into this

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vicious cycle again where you're saying the same

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thing and they're doing the same thing. And then

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so the only other choice is going to the BVA,

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the Board of Veteran Appeals, and you're talking

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three to five years and the only way it's going

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to go faster is if somebody's age. So it's, it

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is definitely frustrating. I can only imagine

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and knowing the two of you and knowing the other

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people that we have talked to from the you know

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from the disability side of the VA is that there

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are so many rules and so many off ramps that

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you know it's almost like you know looking at

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the internet and you end up down a rabbit hole

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somewhere and it takes a while to get back to

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that and you know you're trying to deal with

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other levels of appeals and super appeals and

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this court and this and everything else and I

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have to admire and this is what these VSOs do

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folks. You know they I don't I can't think of

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anyone I've ever talked to that gives up on a

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claim because of the you know the errors that

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are being made you know up the ladder so to speak.

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So you know I encourage everybody out there if

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you know if you if you have a claim or you haven't

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filed a claim go see those you know your local

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VSO either your county or you know your local

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veterans organization or your VA hospital except

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you know they've got counselors in there that

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can help you out and you know you hate to say

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be patient but we do have to be a little bit

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patient as Carol Ann pointed out many of these

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newer hires it's going to take a while for them

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to get the experience to know who to call and

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you know how to figure out whatever you're entitled

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to for whatever your condition might be. So I

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really encourage you to make sure that you file

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those claims. You know, we're still running and

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I'm sure that the two of you are still running

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into older guys and older veterans who haven't

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filed the claim yet. Have you had any examples

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of who's the oldest veteran claim that you've

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ever had to deal with? David, I'll ask you first.

00:16:10.350 --> 00:16:14.950
Well, I've had a 94 year old Coming in to see

00:16:14.950 --> 00:16:18.789
what their benefits are And where it comes into

00:16:18.789 --> 00:16:21.570
play is you know, it's just not the veteran.

00:16:21.570 --> 00:16:25.490
It's the spouse, right? So it's a spouse saying

00:16:25.490 --> 00:16:28.889
hey My dad's never clicked or you know, not the

00:16:28.889 --> 00:16:31.250
spouse but the daughter It's like my dad never

00:16:31.250 --> 00:16:34.190
collected any VA benefits and he's needed it.

00:16:34.190 --> 00:16:38.049
It's needed now and they're need assisted living

00:16:38.049 --> 00:16:45.629
so It gets difficult because then their memory

00:16:45.629 --> 00:16:49.590
might be a little bit less or they have dementia

00:16:49.590 --> 00:16:56.450
and it's tough because they can't remember. So

00:16:56.450 --> 00:16:59.710
yeah, it happens and it's a lot of Korean War

00:16:59.710 --> 00:17:02.870
vets and even Vietnam vets. I mean with them

00:17:02.870 --> 00:17:09.890
coming down with dementia and Then you're just

00:17:09.890 --> 00:17:13.369
trying to piece the puzzle and get all the records,

00:17:13.869 --> 00:17:15.710
and sometimes it's not there, and it's sometimes

00:17:15.710 --> 00:17:21.390
difficult. Well, David, you dropped me a little

00:17:21.390 --> 00:17:27.930
bit. My number was 92. but it's still the same

00:17:27.930 --> 00:17:32.430
situation and it's a daughter calling me and

00:17:32.430 --> 00:17:35.829
oh my god, my god, my dad's bad and he's going

00:17:35.829 --> 00:17:38.630
into assisted living and he needs activities

00:17:38.630 --> 00:17:42.630
of daily living and there's other issues and

00:17:42.630 --> 00:17:46.609
it's gonna cost us $10 ,000 a month for his care.

00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:50.500
and he doesn't have much. Will you help me with

00:17:50.500 --> 00:17:55.339
aid and attendance or, you know, non -service

00:17:55.339 --> 00:18:00.680
pension? And then, oh, by the way, I had another

00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:07.299
one, which the push again, get your DD 214. A

00:18:07.299 --> 00:18:11.279
friend of a friend's dad died and he deserved

00:18:11.279 --> 00:18:14.099
to be buried with military honors, but guess

00:18:14.099 --> 00:18:18.519
what? The girls could not find the DD -214. And

00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:21.380
so she called me in a panic. They called other

00:18:21.380 --> 00:18:24.880
people, nothing, nothing, nothing. And I said,

00:18:25.019 --> 00:18:27.599
look, have you tried the state of Michigan? Luckily,

00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:30.259
he was a Michigan vet, but it would be my same

00:18:30.259 --> 00:18:34.759
advice. Call 1 -800 -MISHVET. She called me back

00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:38.099
in an hour, and she was crying on the phone.

00:18:38.779 --> 00:18:42.140
There were four daughters. They found the department,

00:18:42.460 --> 00:18:46.829
which I was in. few years ago. They had his DD

00:18:46.829 --> 00:18:51.390
214. She sent over the information, and they

00:18:51.390 --> 00:18:54.109
were going to be able to bury their dad with

00:18:54.109 --> 00:18:58.089
honors. Now, that just happened three, four days

00:18:58.089 --> 00:19:02.470
ago. So, Dale, your question, unbelievable, but

00:19:02.470 --> 00:19:06.230
we keep preaching. Get your DD214. Let your family

00:19:06.230 --> 00:19:11.349
know where it's at. And just get enrolled. Go

00:19:11.349 --> 00:19:14.910
and talk to the people at your local VA to see

00:19:14.910 --> 00:19:19.809
what you're eligible for. He was a Vietnam veteran

00:19:19.809 --> 00:19:24.869
many years ago, obviously, and he could have

00:19:24.869 --> 00:19:27.769
gotten benefits. It's really sad talking to the

00:19:27.769 --> 00:19:31.490
girls, the Agent Orange, the whole shooting match.

00:19:32.190 --> 00:19:36.769
They never thought to apply. I mean, that's rather

00:19:36.769 --> 00:19:38.269
interesting, though. I thought what you said

00:19:38.269 --> 00:19:43.109
is that if the vet hadn't applied for anything

00:19:43.109 --> 00:19:47.710
and was in his eight 90s, I was going to say

00:19:47.710 --> 00:19:52.269
80s, I'm already getting there myself. But that

00:19:52.269 --> 00:19:55.430
you were still able to help him, at least with

00:19:55.430 --> 00:19:59.460
the funeral arrangements and so forth. That DD214

00:19:59.460 --> 00:20:02.279
is obviously is a really important document.

00:20:02.660 --> 00:20:07.079
Make many copies of it. You know, have them all

00:20:07.079 --> 00:20:11.940
over the house if you need to. But I think that

00:20:11.940 --> 00:20:15.500
that's really important what you just said that

00:20:15.500 --> 00:20:18.519
some of these people because I've been doing

00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:20.619
this program for 20 years and every once in a

00:20:20.619 --> 00:20:23.839
while we get a call from somebody that says,

00:20:24.539 --> 00:20:26.299
you know, like the calls that you folks get.

00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:30.900
that so -and -so has never applied for anything,

00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:34.920
never even registered with the VA. And we harp

00:20:34.920 --> 00:20:37.920
on this every month on this program. Even if

00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:39.880
you don't want any of the benefits, even if you

00:20:39.880 --> 00:20:42.619
don't want the health care, just register, get

00:20:42.619 --> 00:20:48.839
yourself into the VA system so that someday you

00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:52.400
might need that help. And it's there for you.

00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:54.740
There's so many benefits that you know, we've

00:20:54.740 --> 00:20:57.539
touched on all so many of them over the years

00:20:57.539 --> 00:21:01.119
and I'm constantly surprised by what's available

00:21:01.119 --> 00:21:05.380
through the VA Health side and also on the disability

00:21:05.380 --> 00:21:11.160
side so speaking of You talked about the caregivers

00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:15.839
thing Carol Anne can could you just Briefly cover

00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:20.779
that again. So if I need help or I'm incapacitated,

00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:27.079
can somebody get through me my benefits to help

00:21:27.079 --> 00:21:31.279
take care of me? Okay, so that, Dale, is sort

00:21:31.279 --> 00:21:34.200
of a loaded question with a lot of different

00:21:34.200 --> 00:21:37.180
lanes you could go down. You could go down the

00:21:37.180 --> 00:21:40.420
caregiver's lane, you could go down the aid and

00:21:40.420 --> 00:21:46.670
attention aid and attendance lane with non -commissioned

00:21:46.670 --> 00:21:50.589
if you have a disability benefit or you don't,

00:21:50.690 --> 00:21:53.690
which becomes pension. So there's many questions

00:21:53.690 --> 00:21:58.309
you have to weed out. where, what the situation

00:21:58.309 --> 00:22:02.289
is, what is the story. If you are a veteran that

00:22:02.289 --> 00:22:07.970
is at home, say housebound, you need care and

00:22:07.970 --> 00:22:11.910
your wife or a child or an individual living

00:22:11.910 --> 00:22:15.589
with you is providing that care, that could be

00:22:15.589 --> 00:22:19.029
paid for if you apply for the Caregivers Program.

00:22:19.430 --> 00:22:22.289
Okay, so that's through the VA and social work.

00:22:23.279 --> 00:22:26.779
And so then there's aid in attendance, which

00:22:26.779 --> 00:22:32.519
could also be funds available. Now, aid in attendance

00:22:32.519 --> 00:22:40.240
for non... non -compensated, no service connection.

00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:44.980
That is an income -based benefit. And that benefit,

00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:50.480
right now, the amount in assets, I believe, is

00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:55.279
159 ,000. So you need less than that to apply.

00:22:55.460 --> 00:22:59.759
And I had one the other day, and it was a daughter

00:22:59.759 --> 00:23:03.660
again. Seems like it's the daughters that go

00:23:03.660 --> 00:23:08.759
after these things for their dads. And she was

00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:11.019
pretty upset when I, because I come out with

00:23:11.019 --> 00:23:15.220
that right away. There's no sense going through

00:23:15.220 --> 00:23:18.130
all of this. But then we talked about how much

00:23:18.130 --> 00:23:21.990
that amount is. So if it's like 200 ,000 and

00:23:21.990 --> 00:23:25.549
you could do what is called spin down, he is

00:23:25.549 --> 00:23:30.150
in a nursing home and the care is $10 ,000 a

00:23:30.150 --> 00:23:32.269
month. It's only gonna take you a couple months.

00:23:32.509 --> 00:23:35.130
And in the meantime, we're helping them pull

00:23:35.130 --> 00:23:38.829
all the documentation together to apply for the

00:23:38.829 --> 00:23:42.309
aid and attendance. And so there's a whole bunch

00:23:42.309 --> 00:23:45.630
of variables, Dale, but you just have to... I

00:23:45.630 --> 00:23:50.690
guess, tweak out and get to know the variables

00:23:50.690 --> 00:23:54.890
of each veteran's story. Well, and I know that

00:23:54.890 --> 00:23:57.609
this is a little plug for Legal Health for Veterans

00:23:57.609 --> 00:24:00.809
is that I know that you have e -books out there

00:24:00.809 --> 00:24:03.910
on the website at legalhealthforveterans .com

00:24:03.910 --> 00:24:06.910
that explains many, many of these issues that

00:24:06.910 --> 00:24:10.180
we talk about here on the program. Oh, yes. The

00:24:10.180 --> 00:24:13.900
e -books are out there that have been composed

00:24:13.900 --> 00:24:18.140
of. They're free. I think from every topic, I'd

00:24:18.140 --> 00:24:21.539
be real surprised. I think I have 32 or 33 out

00:24:21.539 --> 00:24:25.160
there. But there's always another topic you can

00:24:25.160 --> 00:24:29.079
talk about that I'm sure. But please, review

00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:33.480
those. This tends to be a really big one now

00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:37.660
with the cost of health care. But once again,

00:24:37.900 --> 00:24:41.359
if you have a disability rating and you're a

00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:46.599
veteran and you're 70 to 100%, the VA will pick

00:24:46.599 --> 00:24:51.599
up that care in a home. So it's really important

00:24:51.599 --> 00:24:55.799
from the get -go to look at what you're eligible

00:24:55.799 --> 00:25:00.400
for. And if you've served, particularly the Vietnam

00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:06.700
era, now the Iraq, Afghanistan, and you know

00:25:06.700 --> 00:25:10.059
you need to see what your what your benefits

00:25:10.059 --> 00:25:14.920
are so you know you could help your family. Yeah

00:25:14.920 --> 00:25:17.519
absolutely and I think it's again it's so important

00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:19.839
for everybody that's listening out there is to

00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:22.980
you know check online or your local paper and

00:25:22.980 --> 00:25:25.259
whatever it is and if you find one of those veterans

00:25:25.259 --> 00:25:30.819
health clinics or veterans you know organization

00:25:30.819 --> 00:25:33.299
is holding an affair where they're going to have

00:25:33.299 --> 00:25:36.019
people there representing the VA and other things.

00:25:36.119 --> 00:25:38.920
Not a bad idea for you to go down there and check

00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:41.559
it out. See what you may be entitled to. At least,

00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:44.240
you know, try to get a plan put together in case

00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:47.200
something happens to you. Yeah, and just like

00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:49.220
Kara was saying, I mean, there's so many rules

00:25:49.220 --> 00:25:51.900
for, you know, non -service connected pension

00:25:51.900 --> 00:25:53.980
with aid and attendance. You've got to have one

00:25:53.980 --> 00:25:58.960
day of wartime. And the assets, there are 160

00:25:58.960 --> 00:26:04.019
and 162 and below, not including the house. But

00:26:04.019 --> 00:26:08.759
I've gone to assisted living to talk about communities,

00:26:09.019 --> 00:26:12.109
to talk about benefits. And we're at it. age

00:26:12.109 --> 00:26:16.009
right now that when I used to go we would talk

00:26:16.009 --> 00:26:18.170
about the non -service connected pension but

00:26:18.170 --> 00:26:20.849
now when I go there's a lot of Vietnam veterans

00:26:20.849 --> 00:26:24.130
so there's so many different presumptive conditions

00:26:24.130 --> 00:26:26.990
and if you have that and like Carol touched upon

00:26:26.990 --> 00:26:30.430
if you have 70 percent or more service connection

00:26:30.430 --> 00:26:33.829
then they'll pay for some assisted living or

00:26:33.829 --> 00:26:39.009
even in -home care so 700 so there's a lot of

00:26:39.009 --> 00:26:42.140
benefits out there and But the rules you have

00:26:42.140 --> 00:26:44.559
to weed through the rules because I mean we have

00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:47.240
a lot of peacetime, you know from Korea to Vietnam

00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:51.579
and then Vietnam to you know, Persian Gulf so

00:26:51.579 --> 00:26:56.539
there's gonna be people that are missing in that

00:26:56.539 --> 00:27:01.079
Pension and and that's kind of upsetting but

00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:04.519
it's it's the rules that we have to follow Yeah,

00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:09.650
I can't imagine what's your book of rules looks

00:27:09.650 --> 00:27:12.990
like Or how many you know how many gigabytes

00:27:12.990 --> 00:27:15.630
does it take up on your computer? While you're

00:27:15.630 --> 00:27:17.529
trying to figure those things out one of the

00:27:17.529 --> 00:27:21.990
things that I that I did want to talk about When

00:27:21.990 --> 00:27:24.170
we get halfway through okay, I wanted to talk

00:27:24.170 --> 00:27:29.069
about this community care Today if we can as

00:27:29.069 --> 00:27:32.650
it I'm personally going through a community care

00:27:32.650 --> 00:27:38.309
program this week actually so if David, could

00:27:38.309 --> 00:27:42.289
you tell us what community care is? Well, are

00:27:42.289 --> 00:27:45.390
you talking about where you go on the marketplace

00:27:45.390 --> 00:27:48.930
for care? Right. Yes, because the VA is too busy.

00:27:49.630 --> 00:27:56.029
Yeah. So if a VA is not within 50 miles, then

00:27:56.029 --> 00:27:59.430
you can ask for community care. Or if the VA

00:27:59.430 --> 00:28:03.869
doesn't provide it in your area, you can. asked

00:28:03.869 --> 00:28:07.809
to see a doctor outside the VA and the VA will

00:28:07.809 --> 00:28:14.430
pay it. Another rule is if you go to a specialty

00:28:14.430 --> 00:28:19.269
and this is really cool because this rule has

00:28:19.269 --> 00:28:22.109
changed. Let's say for instance dermatology,

00:28:22.430 --> 00:28:27.640
endocrinology and they are so busy at the VA,

00:28:27.980 --> 00:28:30.799
they do have those specialties, but they are

00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:33.859
so busy, they cannot get you in within a period

00:28:33.859 --> 00:28:36.940
of time. They will look at you and say, I can't

00:28:36.940 --> 00:28:39.599
schedule an appointment 30 days, 60 days out.

00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:43.259
So I am going to send you, let's talk about ICE.

00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:47.900
I'm going to send you over to the Kellogg. And

00:28:47.900 --> 00:28:51.799
so they arrange an appointment. You could go

00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:55.329
over there, get your care. The other thing I

00:28:55.329 --> 00:28:59.690
would caution everyone is every piece of paper

00:28:59.690 --> 00:29:02.990
and every authorization you get from community

00:29:02.990 --> 00:29:07.549
care, keep it. Keep it in a certain area because

00:29:07.549 --> 00:29:11.170
once the VA grants that, that means that they

00:29:11.170 --> 00:29:16.930
will pay for those bills. So if somebody calls...

00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:22.400
and says, OK, you know, you owe $1 ,500 right

00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:25.660
up front as a deductible. No, no, no, no, no.

00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:28.880
I'm in the VA. This is community care. Pull out

00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:32.220
that piece of paper with the number, and they

00:29:32.220 --> 00:29:36.519
will pick it up. I can't tell you how many times

00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:40.779
I have had to go back and fight for our veterans,

00:29:40.819 --> 00:29:45.410
and it gets really hard to recruit. 14 ,000,

00:29:45.630 --> 00:29:49.349
18 ,000 for surgery that you knew you weren't

00:29:49.349 --> 00:29:53.849
supposed to pay for. Right. That is definitely

00:29:53.849 --> 00:29:56.869
the key to keep those because the veterans are

00:29:56.869 --> 00:29:59.710
getting bills, even though they've been approved.

00:30:00.250 --> 00:30:03.829
And then it's just more fighting that we have

00:30:03.829 --> 00:30:08.619
to do. Yes. And I'll tell you, Pretty good. I

00:30:08.619 --> 00:30:11.339
have my little folder on community care and I

00:30:11.339 --> 00:30:14.160
know specific names. I won't mention you on the

00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:19.240
air at the different levels when you know the

00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:22.660
VA is you can't get the medication and they say

00:30:22.660 --> 00:30:27.319
okay go to your local CVS or go someplace. Take

00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:30.299
that piece of paper because that number on there

00:30:30.299 --> 00:30:34.529
will pay for your CVS prescription. it came out

00:30:34.529 --> 00:30:37.549
of community care because then now to go back

00:30:37.549 --> 00:30:42.049
and fight um because i'm like i need that medicine

00:30:42.049 --> 00:30:47.170
and you know it has to start but it will be taken

00:30:47.170 --> 00:30:49.910
care of by i've talked to this person for other

00:30:49.910 --> 00:30:53.109
veterans and um the bills have been all wiped

00:30:53.109 --> 00:30:57.549
away so please do not pay get your medications,

00:30:58.130 --> 00:31:01.289
get your surgery, but keep going back to community

00:31:01.289 --> 00:31:05.670
care and don't lose that piece of paper. Okay

00:31:05.670 --> 00:31:07.930
well that's something that I as I say is kind

00:31:07.930 --> 00:31:11.069
of a personal experience because I do need to

00:31:11.069 --> 00:31:14.390
go see a dermatologist and I was told that here

00:31:14.390 --> 00:31:16.490
at our local VA that the earliest appointment

00:31:16.490 --> 00:31:19.529
they could get for me was at the end of August.

00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:25.359
And so they referred me to community care here

00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:29.259
locally. And the next thing I knew, I was talking

00:31:29.259 --> 00:31:32.400
to this wonderful woman who walked me through

00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:34.960
the whole program. And the next thing I know

00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.839
is I got an appointment with my outside dermatologist,

00:31:38.339 --> 00:31:41.279
because they were on the list of approved providers.

00:31:42.019 --> 00:31:46.700
And so I'll report back on that couple of weeks

00:31:46.700 --> 00:31:50.150
to let you know how things are going. But I think

00:31:50.150 --> 00:31:53.750
that I thought this was a, I'd heard about it

00:31:53.750 --> 00:31:56.150
before. And, you know, we had talked about it,

00:31:56.150 --> 00:31:58.990
I know, in the past, but I'd never known exactly

00:31:58.990 --> 00:32:04.450
how, at least here at RVA, how efficient it was.

00:32:04.809 --> 00:32:07.250
And I'm hoping that as you say, you know, that

00:32:07.250 --> 00:32:10.890
the bills won't come to me that they'll go down

00:32:10.890 --> 00:32:14.470
the street a little ways. Well, another big decision,

00:32:14.589 --> 00:32:18.029
you talk about a rule. Another big decision that

00:32:18.029 --> 00:32:21.930
came through, I want to say October, is certain

00:32:21.930 --> 00:32:25.410
specialties, if you got a referral to go to community

00:32:25.410 --> 00:32:28.569
care, let's say it was your dermatologist, an

00:32:28.569 --> 00:32:34.029
endocrinologist, an ENT otolaryngologist, it

00:32:34.029 --> 00:32:37.650
would only remain for three months. So you would

00:32:37.650 --> 00:32:40.539
get an appointment. And they would say, OK, follow

00:32:40.539 --> 00:32:43.920
up. And you'd have to go back to your primary

00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.240
at the VA and say, could I please get another

00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:49.980
referral for another three months? Now, back

00:32:49.980 --> 00:32:53.799
in October, there are certain specialties, dermatology,

00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:57.180
podiatry. I could go down the list. I think there's

00:32:57.180 --> 00:33:01.180
13 that they've said, once you get a referral

00:33:01.180 --> 00:33:05.099
to community care, it is now good for one year.

00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:09.380
If you go look at that piece of paper again,

00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.900
Dale, so if you need follow -up trips back to

00:33:12.900 --> 00:33:16.700
your derm, then it will be good for one year

00:33:16.700 --> 00:33:20.940
from the day that you had that appointment. And

00:33:20.940 --> 00:33:23.900
so I think that's really critical and a great

00:33:23.900 --> 00:33:29.500
rule that has stopped a lot of angst with our...

00:33:29.630 --> 00:33:32.730
Veterans getting their medications and being

00:33:32.730 --> 00:33:36.250
seen for follow -up. So that also just happened

00:33:36.250 --> 00:33:38.890
Well, I just think it's a great program that

00:33:38.890 --> 00:33:42.089
they offer and You know, I think many of us are

00:33:42.089 --> 00:33:45.369
not aware of it or we we had heard about it But

00:33:45.369 --> 00:33:47.990
say well, it doesn't apply to me and the next

00:33:47.990 --> 00:33:50.910
thing, you know, you find out that you're You

00:33:50.910 --> 00:33:53.069
know that you need to use it. Otherwise, you're

00:33:53.069 --> 00:33:56.369
not going to get seen for months and months I

00:33:56.369 --> 00:34:00.369
had I had a good story here You know, we're talking

00:34:00.369 --> 00:34:05.809
about the care that many, many of us get at the

00:34:05.809 --> 00:34:09.199
local VA. wherever you happen to be in the country.

00:34:09.820 --> 00:34:13.519
And this was an article I found on the VA's website.

00:34:14.380 --> 00:34:18.019
They've got a great source of information on

00:34:18.019 --> 00:34:21.059
your VA .gov website as far as news is concerned

00:34:21.059 --> 00:34:23.360
and all of these things that we've talked about,

00:34:23.860 --> 00:34:26.800
you can find them. But this gentleman was in

00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:28.940
the Marine Corps and it says every time I got

00:34:28.940 --> 00:34:30.860
off the table I was weaker and weaker but there

00:34:30.860 --> 00:34:33.440
was always another set of hands right there,

00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:36.900
which I thought was a neat headline. I'm not

00:34:36.900 --> 00:34:38.619
going to give his name, but he was a Marine in

00:34:38.619 --> 00:34:43.000
1965, served until 1972, spent three tours in

00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:46.199
Vietnam in the demilitarized zone near Dong Ha,

00:34:46.260 --> 00:34:49.800
Khe Sanh, and Can Thien and Camp Carroll. Later,

00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:52.780
he developed cancer, was diagnosed with cancer

00:34:52.780 --> 00:34:55.920
decades later. He chose the Oklahoma City VA

00:34:55.920 --> 00:35:01.260
Center for his cancer care, and he felt that

00:35:01.260 --> 00:35:06.510
it had improved so much from the 1970s. Yeah,

00:35:06.570 --> 00:35:11.469
things weren't so good in 1970 with the VA. But

00:35:11.469 --> 00:35:14.369
since September of 2022, they have treated him

00:35:14.369 --> 00:35:18.650
twice for cancer, once for arthritis pain. And

00:35:18.650 --> 00:35:22.130
he just goes on and on about the care that he

00:35:22.130 --> 00:35:28.170
received, the specialized care. He had neck and

00:35:28.170 --> 00:35:31.920
head and neck radiation because, oh, wow. I had,

00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:34.360
you know, it was of the larynx, the cancer of

00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:38.320
the larynx. But they took him back, and then

00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:41.960
he developed prostate cancer, and he's still

00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:46.199
around. He's in remission right now, but I think

00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:50.719
it's a great story. He just says, where is his

00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:52.760
comment? He says, don't be afraid to go to the

00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:55.380
VA. I mean, no matter what you've heard, just

00:35:55.380 --> 00:35:59.380
do it. Just do it and don't worry about it. So

00:35:59.380 --> 00:36:03.670
there. I thought that was a great comment by

00:36:03.670 --> 00:36:09.989
a Marine veteran getting care outside of your

00:36:09.989 --> 00:36:14.670
primary care. I like that story. I thought it

00:36:14.670 --> 00:36:17.889
was good. I mean, my experience with our local

00:36:17.889 --> 00:36:24.860
VA has only been positive. my treatment by the

00:36:24.860 --> 00:36:27.820
disability side of it not so good all the time

00:36:27.820 --> 00:36:30.219
but it's you know you just keep plugging away

00:36:30.219 --> 00:36:33.440
and keep trying so you encourage everybody to

00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:38.280
do that all right that's what we do hold on here

00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:42.500
okay so is there anything else that that that

00:36:42.500 --> 00:36:45.880
anybody has noticed that is occurring you know

00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:48.480
through the VA benefits especially the benefits

00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:51.119
side of it I know that's what you two guys specialize

00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:56.179
in Well, I mentioned you talk about a rule I

00:36:56.179 --> 00:36:59.940
saw a document the middle of February that they

00:36:59.940 --> 00:37:06.039
are going to try to expedite DIC survivors benefits

00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:10.219
now you talk about a great benefit for the spouse

00:37:10.219 --> 00:37:16.420
or a child and what this means is and you know,

00:37:16.539 --> 00:37:20.429
we hear the horror stories that once a veteran

00:37:20.429 --> 00:37:23.289
dies, the claim dies. Well, that's not true.

00:37:23.929 --> 00:37:26.329
Because if a claim is active, you should go in

00:37:26.329 --> 00:37:29.309
and get the substitute. But let's say the veteran

00:37:29.309 --> 00:37:32.730
does pass, he does have a disability rating.

00:37:33.179 --> 00:37:37.360
You want to go in and go to somebody that knows

00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:39.659
what they're doing, a VSO, county counselor,

00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:44.679
come to us and go for DIC or survivor's benefits

00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:48.519
because then if the death was because of the

00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:51.639
service, a service -related disability that you

00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:56.119
did get service connection for, the spouse, the

00:37:56.119 --> 00:38:00.340
widow now will get um once approved will get

00:38:00.340 --> 00:38:05.840
a payment um every single month until her her

00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:10.739
end and so um I think that's a huge benefit that

00:38:10.739 --> 00:38:14.159
we preach to our veterans and once a veteran

00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:19.239
passes if we know that he or she has a spouse

00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:22.440
we will contact them immediately we just had

00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:26.880
one a very good friend um And the wife is coming

00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:32.360
back to us upon her spouse's death. So I think

00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:35.159
that's really important. And they're hoping to

00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:39.320
expedite that so that when those come in, they

00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:42.659
will go down that lane. And I'm forgetting which

00:38:42.659 --> 00:38:48.519
RO, Regional Office, has been assigned to take

00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:52.369
a look at DIC. So let's say if you're in Michigan

00:38:52.369 --> 00:38:56.929
and this claim comes in it will go to another

00:38:56.929 --> 00:39:01.030
regional office and I'm sorry I forget I will

00:39:01.030 --> 00:39:05.429
find out for the next benefits which RO it is

00:39:05.429 --> 00:39:08.250
but it doesn't matter we could still follow it

00:39:08.250 --> 00:39:10.530
and find out what's happening with that claim.

00:39:11.449 --> 00:39:14.070
Okay we got a call from someone here we got from

00:39:14.070 --> 00:39:17.309
Ed from Ypsilanti Michigan. Ed go ahead with

00:39:17.309 --> 00:39:21.860
your question for David or Carol Ann. Hi, well,

00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:25.380
you know, I'm a veteran and I are forced but

00:39:25.380 --> 00:39:30.019
you know and I believe I'm in the time slot where

00:39:30.019 --> 00:39:34.000
I'm eligible for VA benefits. I've never really

00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:37.320
worried about VA benefits up to the last year.

00:39:37.380 --> 00:39:39.179
I had private health care through my employer,

00:39:39.179 --> 00:39:42.760
which frankly I hope to get reemployed in the

00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:46.800
next month, but I had a bout of cancer last June

00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:53.570
and so I Lost my primary my private insurance

00:39:53.570 --> 00:39:57.309
to the company and then I signed up for Medicare

00:39:57.309 --> 00:40:03.809
What do I gain by? Going with the VA And how

00:40:03.809 --> 00:40:10.110
does that work or does it? David So yeah, you're

00:40:10.110 --> 00:40:14.510
from Ypsilanti. That's right in my county Yeah,

00:40:14.769 --> 00:40:18.130
what I would suggest you do you can call our

00:40:18.130 --> 00:40:22.090
office and we can sit you down with a veteran

00:40:22.090 --> 00:40:24.690
service officer. What we like to do is we like

00:40:24.690 --> 00:40:28.610
to look at your discharge, your DD -4214, where

00:40:28.610 --> 00:40:31.349
you served, when you served, to see if there's

00:40:31.349 --> 00:40:33.949
any presumptive conditions, if there's anything

00:40:33.949 --> 00:40:38.849
available on the service connected side. I doubt

00:40:38.849 --> 00:40:41.489
that. I wasn't like, well, I was at Lejeune for

00:40:41.489 --> 00:40:43.409
a whole month, you know, but I wasn't burned

00:40:43.409 --> 00:40:46.269
fires or anything. But go ahead, I'm sorry. Yeah,

00:40:46.329 --> 00:40:48.750
yeah, I mean, but we can look at all that because

00:40:48.750 --> 00:40:52.250
there might be something in there that you wouldn't

00:40:52.250 --> 00:40:57.269
know and our service officers would. Yes, okay.

00:40:58.530 --> 00:41:01.889
And so, yes, you're Medicare, but that doesn't

00:41:01.889 --> 00:41:05.429
mean you can't still get a disability rating

00:41:05.429 --> 00:41:09.949
and then other services down the line if you're

00:41:09.949 --> 00:41:13.349
hospitalized and if you have other issues that

00:41:13.349 --> 00:41:17.250
come up. So I would really highly encourage you,

00:41:17.929 --> 00:41:23.030
David and the Washtenaw County County Councilors

00:41:23.030 --> 00:41:25.550
are probably one of the best in the state of

00:41:25.550 --> 00:41:29.150
Michigan. He's not paying me to say that, but

00:41:29.150 --> 00:41:33.690
I would really encourage you to go in and talk

00:41:33.690 --> 00:41:36.070
with them. You would be amazed what you might

00:41:36.070 --> 00:41:40.019
be entitled to. And add the phone number if you

00:41:40.019 --> 00:41:41.800
have a pen. Oh, thank you. Please. I'm waiting.

00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:46.400
Thank you. Appreciate it. 734. It's 734 -973

00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:51.420
-4540. And our front desk guy, Dwayne, will set

00:41:51.420 --> 00:41:55.820
you up with an appointment. All right. I appreciate

00:41:55.820 --> 00:41:58.179
that very much. And please mention that you talked

00:41:58.179 --> 00:42:02.840
to David on Veterans Radio. Yeah. I will do that.

00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:05.239
Thank you. WAM is a great station to broadcast

00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:10.860
on, isn't it? Yep, it is. And thank you for your

00:42:10.860 --> 00:42:13.860
service. Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:16.300
Thank you, Ed, very much. All right, we're going

00:42:16.300 --> 00:42:19.099
to take a real quick break here and see if we

00:42:19.099 --> 00:42:21.800
can get a hold of Rebecca Grant. And we're going

00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:23.760
to play our Medal of Honor segment this week.

00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:29.280
It's Jack Jacobs. And he was an Army at, actually,

00:42:29.380 --> 00:42:32.659
he was at way during the Tet Offensive in 1968.

00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:35.579
So we'll be right back after the Medal of Honor.

00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:38.940
The Medal of Honor is the highest award for valor

00:42:38.940 --> 00:42:40.900
in combat given a member of the Armed Forces

00:42:40.900 --> 00:42:43.880
of the United States. There had been over 3 ,400

00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:46.940
recipients of the nation's highest award. This

00:42:46.940 --> 00:42:49.559
is one of them. First Lieutenant Jack Jacobs,

00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:52.099
although seriously wounded, made repeated trips

00:42:52.099 --> 00:42:54.320
across an open rice paddy, evacuating wounded

00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:59.019
and their weapons. Details after this. If you

00:42:59.019 --> 00:43:01.099
have a VA claim denied by the Board of Veterans'

00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:03.440
Appeals, contact Legal Help for Veterans at 1

00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:07.780
-800 -693. 4 -8 -0 -0. They're experts in handling

00:43:07.780 --> 00:43:10.079
cases before the U .S. Court of Appeals for Veterans

00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:13.780
Claims. Their number again, 1 -800 -693 -4 -8

00:43:13.780 --> 00:43:16.719
-0 -0. Jacob served as an assistant battalion

00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:20.019
advisor in Kien Phong province, Republic of Vietnam.

00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:22.719
The battalion was advancing when it came under

00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:25.800
intense heavy machine gun and mortar fire. Jacob's

00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:28.059
called for and directed airstrikes on the enemy

00:43:28.059 --> 00:43:31.119
positions. Due to the intensity of the enemy

00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:33.360
fire and heavy casualties to the command group,

00:43:33.559 --> 00:43:36.579
including the company commander, the attack stopped

00:43:36.579 --> 00:43:39.780
and the friendly troops became disorganized.

00:43:40.300 --> 00:43:43.019
Wounded by mortar fragments, Jacobs assumed command

00:43:43.019 --> 00:43:45.179
of the company, ordered to withdraw from the

00:43:45.179 --> 00:43:47.579
exposed position, and established a defensive

00:43:47.579 --> 00:43:50.400
perimeter. Despite heavy bleeding from head wounds

00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:53.119
that impaired his vision, Jacobs returned under

00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:55.300
intense fire to evacuate a seriously wounded

00:43:55.300 --> 00:43:57.980
advisor to safety, where he administered life

00:43:57.980 --> 00:44:01.449
-saving first aid. He then returned through heavy

00:44:01.449 --> 00:44:03.809
automatic weapons fire to evacuate the wounded

00:44:03.809 --> 00:44:07.030
company commander. Jacobs made repeated trips

00:44:07.030 --> 00:44:10.289
across the fire swept open rice paddies, evacuating

00:44:10.289 --> 00:44:13.230
wounded and their weapons. On three separate

00:44:13.230 --> 00:44:16.190
occasions, Jacobs drove off Viet Cong squads

00:44:16.190 --> 00:44:18.289
who were searching for allied wounded and weapons,

00:44:18.670 --> 00:44:21.230
single -handedly killing three and wounding several

00:44:21.230 --> 00:44:24.369
others. His actions saved the lives of a U .S.

00:44:24.630 --> 00:44:28.159
advisor and 13 allied soldiers. The Medal of

00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:30.559
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00:44:31.619 --> 00:44:34.179
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00:44:56.440 --> 00:45:05.900
.net Now we're back here on Veterans Radio. We're

00:45:05.900 --> 00:45:07.920
going to kind of do a little segue now to find

00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:10.639
out what's going on in the world for a minute.

00:45:11.340 --> 00:45:13.199
Joining me on the line now is our good friend

00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:16.840
Dr. Rebecca Grant. Dr. Grant is a national security

00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:19.739
analyst based in Washington, DC. She is vice

00:45:19.739 --> 00:45:22.599
president of the Lexington Institute, which is

00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:25.619
a center -right think tank. that focuses mainly

00:45:25.619 --> 00:45:28.980
on defense and security policy. And Dr. Grant

00:45:28.980 --> 00:45:31.280
has been running all over the place today, probably

00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:34.059
on TV, to be on our show, and she's taking time

00:45:34.059 --> 00:45:37.260
to talk to us. So Dr. Grant, welcome to Veterans

00:45:37.260 --> 00:45:41.559
Radio. It's fantastic to talk with you. And while

00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:45.500
I am thinking about our nearly 40 ,000 US forces

00:45:45.500 --> 00:45:49.559
in the Middle East engaged in Operation Epic

00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:51.909
Fury, They're playing offense. They're playing

00:45:51.909 --> 00:45:54.389
defense and my thoughts are with them and I know

00:45:54.389 --> 00:45:57.590
yours are too. Absolutely. So can you tell us

00:45:57.590 --> 00:46:00.590
how how we got into this? What's what's been

00:46:00.590 --> 00:46:03.510
going on that you've heard? Well, last week,

00:46:03.670 --> 00:46:07.690
Iran decided they would not agree to ship out

00:46:07.690 --> 00:46:11.050
their illegal, highly enriched uranium. They

00:46:11.050 --> 00:46:13.630
were very intransigent. They've been negotiating

00:46:13.630 --> 00:46:17.090
with Ambassador Rikoff and Jared Kushner and

00:46:17.090 --> 00:46:20.559
others. with Oman media for many, many, many

00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:22.980
weeks. President Trump decided that they were

00:46:22.980 --> 00:46:25.239
not negotiating in good faith and has decided

00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:28.679
on a very, very large air campaign. The objective

00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:33.059
is to destroy, really is to destroy Iran's military

00:46:33.059 --> 00:46:36.360
capability. And as we know, on night one of the

00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:39.780
campaign, which hit, I believe, about 900 aim

00:46:39.780 --> 00:46:42.400
points, really an astonishing display of force.

00:46:42.420 --> 00:46:45.219
And that included attacks on leadership targets

00:46:45.219 --> 00:46:51.260
and the historic death of Ayatollah Khamenei.

00:46:53.179 --> 00:46:57.719
Have you heard anything about what's next or

00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:01.900
what the plans are for tomorrow or the next day?

00:47:03.159 --> 00:47:05.679
Yeah, the what's next is kind of in two categories.

00:47:05.940 --> 00:47:08.960
One is actually continuing the air strikes. We

00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:11.320
just learned that the B -2 bombers were back

00:47:11.320 --> 00:47:14.809
in action. They hit uh... target within you know

00:47:14.809 --> 00:47:17.230
what's really kind of the rate determining target

00:47:17.230 --> 00:47:21.710
set and that is iran really large ballistic missile

00:47:21.710 --> 00:47:24.670
complex which is that multiple played all across

00:47:24.670 --> 00:47:28.210
the country the beat you hit some hardened target

00:47:28.210 --> 00:47:30.309
there and i expect will be there back in action

00:47:30.309 --> 00:47:33.010
it looks like the the number one thing is to

00:47:33.010 --> 00:47:35.769
go ahead continue a president of today he feels

00:47:35.769 --> 00:47:38.230
that the target that is on track or maybe a little

00:47:38.230 --> 00:47:41.739
ahead of schedule but As we know, the commander

00:47:41.739 --> 00:47:44.559
of Central Command, Admiral Cooper, and our Chairman

00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:46.860
of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Dan Kaine,

00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:48.960
will be looking very hard at the bomb damage

00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:52.719
assessments and deciding what needs restrikes.

00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:56.719
Also, we've, of course, seen Iran firing ballistic

00:47:56.719 --> 00:48:00.139
missiles and drones. Sadly, so far with the loss

00:48:00.139 --> 00:48:04.079
confirmed of three Americans due to one of those

00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:06.590
attacks. And as your listeners know, when the

00:48:06.590 --> 00:48:09.269
shooting starts, often the target set expands

00:48:09.269 --> 00:48:12.750
as other targets appear or an Iranian missile

00:48:12.750 --> 00:48:15.730
launcher comes up on the net, et cetera. So the

00:48:15.730 --> 00:48:17.969
indication is that the strikes will continue

00:48:17.969 --> 00:48:21.710
for a while. Iran's president, President Pashishkin,

00:48:21.769 --> 00:48:24.809
is still alive. Iran has also said that they

00:48:24.809 --> 00:48:27.829
are going to select a new supreme leader. I think

00:48:27.829 --> 00:48:30.610
it's much less clear what happens with the politics

00:48:30.610 --> 00:48:34.079
and the economy of Iran. Of course, we all remember

00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:38.039
that this regime not only killed Americans, but

00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:41.300
they've killed upwards of 32 ,000 of their own

00:48:41.300 --> 00:48:44.760
people just in the last several weeks. But to

00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:47.239
me, this is first and foremost a military campaign.

00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:50.000
The part that matters for America and for our

00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:53.619
security is to complete this destruction of Iran's

00:48:53.619 --> 00:48:56.579
military capacity. And I tell you, if we had

00:48:56.579 --> 00:49:00.260
any doubt about the dangers of Iran's enrichment

00:49:00.260 --> 00:49:03.570
program, or the dangers of their missiles and

00:49:03.570 --> 00:49:05.869
grow you know we've really seen it you don't

00:49:05.869 --> 00:49:09.230
forget the drone we felt around hitting in uh...

00:49:09.230 --> 00:49:12.409
the u a e uh... in the gulf uh... last night

00:49:12.409 --> 00:49:14.989
hitting civilian target of the exact same grown

00:49:14.989 --> 00:49:19.869
that are used by russia in ukraine and as for

00:49:19.869 --> 00:49:22.070
the nuclear enrichment that became such a subject

00:49:22.070 --> 00:49:25.150
of discussion here and have one nuclear power

00:49:25.150 --> 00:49:28.320
plant Everybody else in the world buys their

00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:31.960
nuclear power plant fuel on an open market. Mostly

00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:35.280
comes from Canada and Kazakhstan and a few other

00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:38.280
places. It's not enriched enough for a weapon.

00:49:39.019 --> 00:49:42.900
So Iran could have done that, but they arrogantly

00:49:42.900 --> 00:49:45.460
and with a lot of defiance, chose another path.

00:49:46.059 --> 00:49:48.800
And their military capability is going to be

00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:52.159
severely degraded. I think that is going to be

00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:54.659
very positive for the future of the Middle East.

00:49:56.320 --> 00:49:59.900
I mean, I was watching some of these, you know,

00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:03.300
the news and so forth, and, you know, how Iran

00:50:03.300 --> 00:50:06.539
is, as you mentioned, just kind of firing off

00:50:06.539 --> 00:50:09.800
these rockets willy -nilly. I know that's not

00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:13.139
the official military term, but it seems that

00:50:13.139 --> 00:50:17.219
way, that they're trying to retaliate wherever

00:50:17.219 --> 00:50:21.960
they can. Is Israel participating in the airstrikes?

00:50:23.210 --> 00:50:29.690
Oh, very actively. Israel says they flew 200

00:50:29.690 --> 00:50:32.630
aircraft on the first night. That's got to be

00:50:32.630 --> 00:50:35.070
just about the entire Israeli Air Force. They

00:50:35.070 --> 00:50:37.829
have, of course, our U .S.-made F -35s, F -15s,

00:50:37.869 --> 00:50:40.889
F -16s, and other aircraft as well. So they're

00:50:40.889 --> 00:50:42.789
participating very actively. And you're right

00:50:42.789 --> 00:50:46.030
about the Iranian missile and drone shots being

00:50:46.030 --> 00:50:49.110
kind of launch without effect. You know, our

00:50:49.110 --> 00:50:53.780
U .S. Space Force does a lot to affect the electromagnetic

00:50:53.780 --> 00:50:57.019
environment there and really scramble up any

00:50:57.019 --> 00:51:00.519
of Iran's attempts at guidance. One incident

00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:03.380
that occurred early on was Iran claimed to have

00:51:03.380 --> 00:51:06.179
targeted the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln,

00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:08.579
which is there, of course, 5 ,000 sailors and

00:51:08.579 --> 00:51:11.119
airmen aboard. She was there in the North Arabian

00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:13.219
Gulf. And U .S. Central Command has been pretty

00:51:13.219 --> 00:51:16.739
quiet up until this afternoon, came out immediately

00:51:16.739 --> 00:51:19.019
and said, this is a lie, those missiles didn't

00:51:19.019 --> 00:51:22.750
go anywhere near. the abraham lincoln uh... it's

00:51:22.750 --> 00:51:25.269
a reminder though that this is a combat zone

00:51:25.269 --> 00:51:28.550
we know president trump was briefed that there

00:51:28.550 --> 00:51:31.829
could be american casualties and you know we

00:51:31.829 --> 00:51:34.170
know so well that uh... that all of our service

00:51:34.170 --> 00:51:37.329
members there are at risk and while the attacks

00:51:37.329 --> 00:51:39.929
uh... the drone and missile attacks from iran

00:51:39.929 --> 00:51:42.889
are are kind of unguided they're not highly accurate

00:51:42.889 --> 00:51:45.769
but they can certainly be lethal in the case

00:51:45.769 --> 00:51:48.230
of the carrier of course you know we know aircraft

00:51:48.230 --> 00:51:51.639
carriers Maneuver pretty quickly they sail pretty

00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:54.340
quickly and they were of course surrounded by

00:51:54.340 --> 00:51:56.800
their own destroyer squadron a guided missile

00:51:56.800 --> 00:51:59.920
cruiser with the ability to do both the mid -course

00:51:59.920 --> 00:52:02.880
intercepts up at 65 ,000 feet and to do terminal

00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:06.260
intercepts as well So USS Abraham Lincoln continues

00:52:06.260 --> 00:52:13.050
to launch strike sorties at this point Wow Thank

00:52:13.050 --> 00:52:15.369
you so much for taking time out of your very,

00:52:15.369 --> 00:52:18.690
very busy day for just joining us here on Veterans

00:52:18.690 --> 00:52:21.150
Radio for a short time. You know, let us know

00:52:21.150 --> 00:52:23.889
what's going on. And again, I appreciate it so

00:52:23.889 --> 00:52:27.130
much, Dr. Grant. It's great to talk with you

00:52:27.130 --> 00:52:29.329
all. And I know your listeners and you and me

00:52:29.329 --> 00:52:31.050
as well are really thinking about our American

00:52:31.050 --> 00:52:33.469
servicemen playing offense and playing defense

00:52:33.469 --> 00:52:35.309
and trying to make the world a better place tonight.

00:52:36.130 --> 00:52:39.809
Absolutely. Thank you very much. Thank you. Bye

00:52:39.809 --> 00:52:45.760
bye. All right. So, update on what's going on

00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:48.099
in Iran and update on what's going on with the

00:52:48.099 --> 00:52:50.480
VA. This is what happens when you listen to Veterans

00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:53.760
Radio. I appreciate all of you doing that. So,

00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:56.880
David Simms, the Washtenaw County, Michigan,

00:52:57.139 --> 00:53:00.139
Executive Director of Veterans Affairs. Thank

00:53:00.139 --> 00:53:02.460
you very much for being on our program today.

00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:04.960
Same with you, Carol Anne Faustone from Legal

00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:08.920
Help for Veterans. And we are... going to be

00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:11.099
watching all of these things that are going on,

00:53:11.300 --> 00:53:14.480
not only across the world, but also here locally

00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:18.639
at home with our local VAs. They're doing the

00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:22.739
best they can, folks, I think. And that's for

00:53:22.739 --> 00:53:26.659
you, you out there. If you're a veteran, they're

00:53:26.659 --> 00:53:28.780
doing it for you. They're doing it for you. They're

00:53:28.780 --> 00:53:31.800
doing it for your family. And you've heard some

00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:34.360
of the things that we talked about today. And

00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:37.670
they are So many benefits that we are leaving

00:53:37.670 --> 00:53:41.130
on the table, ladies and gentlemen, we are doing

00:53:41.130 --> 00:53:46.690
that. So please talk to a VSO talk to somebody

00:53:46.690 --> 00:53:50.409
about what you may be entitled to. And we're

00:53:50.409 --> 00:53:53.269
hoping that we you know by next month. When we

00:53:53.269 --> 00:53:55.849
come back on, you know, the first Sunday in April,

00:53:56.190 --> 00:53:58.510
maybe you've got a question and our experts can

00:53:58.510 --> 00:54:01.329
answer that question for you. So we want to make

00:54:01.329 --> 00:54:04.250
sure that you do that, please. We're trying to

00:54:04.250 --> 00:54:07.309
look out for each other. Remember when you were

00:54:07.309 --> 00:54:09.489
in the service, somebody had your back? Well,

00:54:09.590 --> 00:54:12.050
we've got your back now and we want to make sure

00:54:12.050 --> 00:54:15.409
that you get what you're entitled to. We are

00:54:15.409 --> 00:54:18.309
coming up on the end of the program. And again,

00:54:18.309 --> 00:54:20.349
I want to thank our guests for being here to

00:54:20.349 --> 00:54:23.670
talk about benefits and so forth. Today, God

00:54:23.670 --> 00:54:25.969
Bless America is our song of the day, of course,

00:54:26.090 --> 00:54:28.929
here on Veterans Radio. And it's going to be

00:54:28.929 --> 00:54:31.969
Johnny Fortune and Sonya Isaacs Yearly. Till

00:54:31.969 --> 00:54:33.809
next week, this is Dale Thromery. For all of

00:54:33.809 --> 00:54:37.150
us here at Veterans Radio, you are dismissed.

00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:58.960
America, land that I love Stand beside her and

00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:04.659
guide her Through the night with a light from

00:55:04.659 --> 00:55:13.960
above From the mountains to the prairies to the

00:55:13.960 --> 00:55:26.809
oceans White with foam God bless America My home

00:55:26.809 --> 00:55:35.030
sweet home God bless America
