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to welcome to Veterans Radio today a documentary

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filmmaker Mark Selim. Mark, welcome to Veterans

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Radio. Well, thank you very much. Well, you have

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an interesting documentary that you've just finished

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and it's Making its rounds a little bit. We'll

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talk to it. It's called a salute to our World

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War Two Generation. Let us not forget and I had

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the opportunity to view it and I thought I got

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to talk to Mark first off film documentary and

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what we do on Veterans Radio is kind of the same

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thing. You're telling a story. How did you get

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attracted to this particular story and which

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you've put out through Bending River Films? Sure.

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The initial concept came probably about eight

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years ago. My mom happened to be in a respite

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center recovering from a foot surgery and we

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were in the common space and there was a gentleman

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there who happened to serve in World War II.

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He served under Patton and he and I got into

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a conversation and the next thing you know two

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hours later my mom already back in her room.

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I was just enticed immensely and thought my goodness

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there's got to be something I can do to not just

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share a story about the war, but share the stories

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of our veterans. And it wasn't a year later that

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I was at an event in downtown Plymouth. They

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have a Memorial Day event every year, which is

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fabulous. And they had six or two veterans get

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up that day and speak for about five minutes

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each about their encounters and experiences at

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World War II. And I said to myself at that time,

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I have got to do something. to pay tribute to

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these men and women. So it was at that point,

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in fact, that was Memorial Day of 2019 when I

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made a commitment in my mind to start working

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on that film. And we did so later that year.

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Well, let me explain to the audience that Mark

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comes at this with a lot of digital media experience.

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He has a... undergrad and master's degree from

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Eastern Michigan University and for a long time

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has been in the digital marketing space through

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a company called Highway Media. But that's sort

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of a different focus than being the... Coming

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up with this concept yourself and being the motivating

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guy who's got her? Find the people to interview

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put the stories together make make the thing

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go from a to Z in a coherent fashion Had you

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ever done this before? Yeah, we had just finished

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actually in 2019 the end of that year a film

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called Plymouth Michigan a rich history And that

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was my first experience in doing a full feature

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It was originally not intended to be a feature,

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but it inevitably became a feature film and had

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great success. So we had to go through that process

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of, you know, determining how do we build a full

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length story. We interviewed 19 people for that

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film and had to do a plethora of research to

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find assets such as photograph headlines and

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old films that represented the history of climate.

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So I did have the initial experience of producing

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the film of that nature, but it's still not a

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time. So it was still a new adventure for me,

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and this one was much bigger than the Plymouth

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film. Well, this thing really has got great individual

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stories by World War II veterans, by women who

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supported the effort. I'll get you to walk through

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all of that. But a really unique hook on this

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that I want you to explain is you got involved

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with a high school teacher and That kind of runs

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from the beginning to the end of the film Tell

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us what that approach was and how you settle

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out. This is the way to make it something different

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than the If there is such a thing ordinary documentary

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You know, the one thing I wanted to make sure

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that happened in this film to start was to make

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sure that this story was not about the war itself,

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but it was about the impact of the war on the

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lives of our veterans before, during, and after

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their service. So that's one of the big separating

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factors for the film. But beyond that, we wanted

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to make sure that it shared stories in unique

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ways as well, not just from their perspective.

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but also from the perspective of family members.

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We interviewed nine or 10 of their children.

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And one additional thing that came to our minds

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was, how do we get this film in the hands, in

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the eyes of our youth? Because as that stunt

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title says, let us not forget, we do not want

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the youth of our country to ever forget what

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this generation did for us. So we were trying

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to come up with a method to to really get them

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involved. I mean, it was just early last year

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in 2025 when we decided to reach out to the Plymouth

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County Community Discourse System, which would

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do a lot of video content for them, and say,

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hey, listen, we want to get a high school class

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involved. In fact, they've got to give Keith

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Field some credit for this, right? A lot of credit

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for this. It was his idea to try to follow this

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class through that semester. That's what we did.

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In the school semester of 25, we followed this

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class. And we assigned them a project. We told

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them, we want you to follow these real -world

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students. And then we took them on a field trip

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and showed them what it was like to be at the

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Drake Lakes National Cemetery, what the museums

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were like. And then the culmination of this all

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came to the memorial day parade of this last

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year where we marched in the parade with the

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veteran they were following on a poster board

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in their hands. It was really interesting that

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approach or vehicle for the film because we often

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say here on Veterans Radio, we're telling veteran

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stories, we're telling history that they don't

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teach anymore. They never taught in our schools.

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for the high school kids to delve into a particular

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veteran or related subject. They're not really

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studying the war as much as they're studying

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about, God, these kids were the same age as my

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older brother, maybe, who go off and how it shapes

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them. So it was really interesting to see how

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you were. teaching history and working with the

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class to do that. So kudos on that. You mentioned

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Keith Fahmy. Let's bring him in a little bit

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on this. So Bending River Films is a collaboration

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between yourself and Keith Fahmy, who's a recognized

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documentary filmmaker here in the Metro Detroit

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area. How did you guys come together? Well, strangely

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enough, early 2024, they had a lot of people

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that said, hey, you should reach out to Keith.

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Maybe he can help you finish this film. You know,

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we were struggling to find the funds to finish

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the film. And I said, you know what, if I can't

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do this on my own, I'm not going to worry about

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it. And it just so happens that Keith reached

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out to me and we sat down and I broke the ice

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a little bit. And I said, so, you know, what

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is it you're looking for? And he said, well,

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he says, you know, I'm starting to get up there

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and age and I'd like to have and it's kind of

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lonely working on my own. He goes, and I've heard

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your name a lot, you know, in the Metro Detroit

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area. And I just thought, hey, maybe we can connect

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and talk about working together. So I said, well,

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maybe we can. And we spent the next six to eight

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months meeting for breakfast quite often, talking

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about ideas. And it just seemed to be the right

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fit. So. By late 2024, you know, we formed Benning

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River Films and decided that we were going to

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make this a kind of a partnership for the films.

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Highway Media still is around, but Benning River

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Films now is our collaborative effort as a partnership.

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And our goal is to make anywhere between four

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to six films on average per year and potentially

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also some. some series for PBS. These are all

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going to be PBS documentaries. They fit really

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nicely into that format. Let's go back and talk

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about the people you interviewed. You can do

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it by individuals or segments, because as I said

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earlier, you've got some veterans, you've got

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some women, Rosie the River types, you've got

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some family members, kids of veterans. So talk

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to us how you found them and then put them all

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together. Well, I started the I found them pretty

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quick at least the first few When I was at that

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Memorial Day event, so even though it was in

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my mind I quickly introduced myself to the MC

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of that event Krista McKinley and she was an

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absolute valuable invaluable asset to us in helping

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us connect with Probably eight to ten veterans

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of the 24 that we interviewed And from that,

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you know, it helped us to start to create, you

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know, some some leeway into saying, hey, here's

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something we've got. So we produced a trailer

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and now we started to showcase this to organizations.

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We were getting letters of support from state

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representatives and mayors and and organizations

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all over Michigan. So having all that was a real

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big benefit. And then we started to realize that

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we wanted to hit each and every branch. So besides

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the four major branches, we also wanted to make

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sure that we tackled the branch of the Tuskegee

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Airmen. And that was maybe the most difficult

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to find, because even though we had two of them

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alive and well, to an extent, five years ago,

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they weren't so willing right at that time to

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speak. It took a few years, but we finally got

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Lieutenant Colonel Harry Stewart to participate.

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And then the last piece of the puzzle was our

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Montfort Port Marines, which I had never heard

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of that division, but we flew down once we heard

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about it and made some connections. We flew down

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to Camp Lejeune in Jackson, North Carolina, and

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we filmed an event. for these gentlemen. They

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were basically the first black Marines in this

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nation's history before they integrated. And

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then we did three interviews while we were down

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there for a couple of days. That's one of the

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things that I think is interesting because in

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this, what, hour and a half documentary film,

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you're able to touch on different things like

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the waves for point Marines, Tuskegee Airmen.

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each of the branches of service, POWs. You touch

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on all of this in a way that hopefully inspires

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the person watching to go, I want to go learn

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some more about that. Was that a little bit of

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the intention? Without a doubt. And, you know,

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I think anytime I watch a documentary, and I'm

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always looking for great documentary films, I

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want to be, I want three things to happen to

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me when I watch a film. I first want to be inspired.

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I hope that the film is inspirational and makes

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me feel a certain way, whether it's joyous or

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even somber. I secondly want it to be very informative

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and I want to be able to learn from what I've

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watched. And then lastly, I want it to be able

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to initiate something within me in a response.

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Now, whether that response is to go out and learn

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more, or to share it with others, or to become

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more active in a particular community, then I

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think that's important. And based on that theory,

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and I've had that mindset for many, many years,

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even doing marketing videos, I basically transfer

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that to the documentary world. And that was certainly

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a purpose. And I'm glad that you recognize that.

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Yeah, no, and some other things you touched on

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that I thought, OK, that's what I want to see.

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One of the things you touched on was the Great

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Lakes National Cemetery, because I don't think

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most folks understand how respectful, if you've

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served, you have a place you can be buried where

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you're going to feel the respect of your service.

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And another was the Michigan Heroes Museum. Most

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states, Michigan included, have really active

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military museums and organizations that try to

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keep this history alive, but they have a hard

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time getting the word out. So you touched on

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those two things again that, wow, that's kind

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of outside the normal bandwidth. Were there areas

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that you wanted to get to but just couldn't because

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of limitations? Well, when you ask that question,

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you say, were there areas we couldn't get to?

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Well, that you said, I'd like to include this,

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but I can't find somebody or I'd like to include

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this, but I've run out of time or those sorts

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of things. You know, I think documentaries never

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end the way they start. I will say that for both

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my Plymouth film and this feature. And Keith

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has told me that's happened basically with all

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the films he's produced. You know, you have a

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vision in your mind. but it evolves, it becomes

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its own little entity, an organism, right? So

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you find that it develops these different branches

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and you might find that one of those branches

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really take you in a direction that you really

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find to be much more beneficial than the other

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ones you were going down originally. So when

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it came to, let's say those two places, they

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just happened to stem from that whole educational

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component. where as we were building that story

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with the with the students, we realized that

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my goodness, why don't we take them somewhere?

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You know, they were they were happy to be in

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the classroom, but to take them on that field

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trip was a was a whole other ball game for them.

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And and yeah, it opened the rise, you know, as

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you saw, maybe in the end, we interviewed a couple

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of them there and a few of them afterwards to

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get those feedback. And it really had an impact.

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I would hope it would also inspire some teachers

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along the way to see maybe what they could do

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in their classrooms to bring history a little

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bit more alive and respect for veterans more

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alive. I know you've got a stop at we're coming

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up to and I don't want to run out of time here.

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Tell us a little more about Bending River Films,

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how people can find it and follow, and also tell

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us a little bit more about how they might be

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able to see this documentary, which is titled

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A Salute to Our World War II Generation. Let

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us not forget. So tackle both of those before

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we run out of time. Sure. So yeah, Bending River

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Films, I think I'd mentioned earlier that, you

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know, we're working on several more projects

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this year, and we're excited about those. All

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PBS supported. And, you know, we're always looking

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for support. You know, they range from one is

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on the train history of Michigan called All Aboard,

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the Great Lakes Train History. We're doing another

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one called Laid to Rest. a Michigan cemetery

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story. And we're going to be looking at the culture

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of dying and the different unique cemeteries

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and all the rituals that take place. And a number

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of other things, you know, farm to table about

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farmers and agriculture and the food we eat.

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So BendingRiverFilms .com is a website where

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people can go and they can certainly learn about

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any of these five, in fact, six films. The newest

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one, based on this World War II film, we are

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doing now a tribute to Just the Rosies. And that

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one is called Women of War Homefront Heroines.

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And that one is going to hopefully be completed

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this year as well and released later this year.

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So if there are individuals out there who want

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to learn more about that or how they can support

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that, that will be on our website. Well, I think

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probably by the time you edit it. Good, good.

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If folks want to see these films, you've mentioned

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a couple of times they're on PBS. I know they're

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on the Detroit PBS. But talk about distribution

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of the film. Yeah, so basically the World War

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II film, A Salute to Our World War II Generation,

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is available on DVD and Blu -ray. And we also

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have a streaming version. I don't know if you

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have a way of adding that to your... do your

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thing, but I don't have it in the top of my head,

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but at BenningRiverFilms .com we have the information

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about the films, and it should lead them to where

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they can order the DVD, but I could probably

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find that here in the next minute or so too while

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we're chatting. Well, we really found this interesting.

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We recognized and knew some of the people who

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helped. funded as executive producer or community

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leaders, some of the individuals who were highlighted

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in conversation with you through this documentary

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film. But as I said, it has a much broader appeal,

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I think, and I think it shows hopefully to folks

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in the nation, hey, don't let these men and women

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disappear from the face of the earth without

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capturing their stories and capture the stories

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of their kids. And even their grandkids were

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great grandkids who were in school and maybe

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need to study it a little bit more. So it was

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a very, very well done and high quality film.

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I recommend it to all our veteran radio listeners.

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OK, Mark, did you find the code you were looking

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for? I did. I did. And thank you very much. I

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appreciate that. So the site is, if people want

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to write it down, so it's Bending River Films

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with an S. bendingriverfilms .company .site,

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S -I -T -E. is where they can order a Blu -ray

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or DVD of the loop to our movie. That's excellent.

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We really appreciate the time you've given us

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today on Veterans Radio, and we hope folks will

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go to your website, bendingriverfilms .com, to

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learn more about this story, but others that

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you're working on, stories that inspire, and

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then go to bendingriverfilms .company .site.

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in an opportunity to order the documentary film.

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Mark, we really do appreciate the time you've

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given us today. Yeah, my pleasure, Jim. Thank

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you so much for having me. And I want to thank

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everybody for listening to Veterans Radio today.

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