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All across America and around the world, welcome

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to America's number one veterans program, Veterans

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Radio. And now, here's the voice of today's program

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here at Veterans Radio, former CB, July 66, Republic

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of Vietnam, Gary Lilly. Well, thank you, Bob.

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Good morning to you, too. 101st Airborne you're

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representing. And good morning to the troops,

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that thin green and blue line that's protecting

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not only our country but the rest of the world.

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What a fine job you're doing and us older vets

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admire you. I want to say welcome home to my

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veteran brothers and sisters. Welcome home. And

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to the folks down under, thanks for listening

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in. Good morning America. Welcome to Veterans

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Radio. A good program lined up. John Voight will

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be on later as soon as we restore the connection.

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He's a delightful person. He and I had talked

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a number of times this week and he's just as

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delightful as could be. We laughed a lot. We

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talked about some serious things in some very,

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very upbeat fashion, but right now we've lost

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the connection. So Bob is over there dialing

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numbers. I'll go into some of the introductions

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before we get them back on. In 1969, John Voight

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made a big splash with the movie Midnight Cowboy.

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He made it with Dustin Hoffman. It was kind of

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hilarious. I was looking on the internet last

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night and I saw a photograph of the two of them

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walking side by side. Dustin Hoffman comes up

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to his shoulder. 1972, Deliverance. 1978, Coming

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Home, in which he played a paraplegic Vietnam

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veteran who had turned against the war. He did

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that with Jane Fonda. Many other movies and TV

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programs. What I found interesting is that Dustin

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has two brothers, Wes, who goes by the writer's

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name of Chip Taylor. He wrote Wild Thing, the

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songs Wild Thing and Angel of the Morning and

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his brother Barry studied geology at Columbia

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and is a volcanologist at Penn State. Those are

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two of my favorite songs. Wow, I love that. I

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played in the band and we played that. I love

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that. You make my heart sing. I keep forgetting

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you got a rock and roll band. Give us some announcements

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while I get my throat back. Okay, thank you,

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Gary. Veterans Radio. Veterans Radio is going

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to be a part of the big game at Eastern Michigan

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University, Ryerson Stadium. That'll be Saturday,

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September 5th. That's right, Saturday, September

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5th. It's going to be a night game kickoff at

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7 o 'clock. However, you'll be able to get tickets,

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that's right, for a special price of just $3,

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of which a dollar of that will benefit the EMU,

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that Eastern Michigan University ROTC program,

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and it's going to be used. for some very, very,

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very important facilities that they're going

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to build. It's going to be a new rifle range.

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So, over the next four weeks, we will let you

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know how you can purchase your tickets. You can

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get them online, order forms, et cetera, right

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here on Veterans Radio. By the way, we're going

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to have a pre -game program. That's right, we're

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going to be on it in our usual time, 9 o 'clock

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Eastern Standard Time. we're going to have veterans

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veterans that are going to be there as part of

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the army and when i say the army i mean like

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in west point please hey how about that gary

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you know you know how you get a square meal right

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you know they do that oh yeah i know okay that'll

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be once again saturday september 5th The kickoff

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is at seven o 'clock. The tailgate party is from

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four to seven and all veterans of the U .S. Armed

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Forces, all veterans, all armed forces are invited

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to attend the pregame party prior to the football

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game. That's from four to seven and there will

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be no charge for veterans and their families

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to attend that tailgate party. There'll be all

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kinds of things, you know, hot dogs and all that

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good stuff and parking is also free. So we'll

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be talking more about discount tickets. for that

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game. How about that? That's going to be great,

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eh? The army's coming. It's easier to get in

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there than to the Big Ten or the Big Eight or

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Southeast Conference. You've got to park a mile

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away if you want free parking. Well, not anymore.

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I think we're going to have that all set. So,

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are we set for welcome home? Oh, yeah. Let's

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go to welcome home. I think that would be an

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excellent idea. Let's welcome home the troops.

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Welcome home. This is Bob Gould welcoming home

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all troops. All troops each week on Veterans

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Day we welcome home servicemen and women who've

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been stationed around the world in the service

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of their country and are returning home. Dateline

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Houston, Texas. The 712th Military Police Company

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combat support of the Texas National Guard base

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in Baytown, Texas were welcomed home after a

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year in Iraq. Dateline Fargo, North Dakota. The

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Happy Hooligans, that's right, Happy Hooligans,

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have sent mechanics, security police, and other

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support personnel to Iraq, Afghanistan, and other

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areas of the Southeast Asia theater. That's been

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many times in the past recent years. Last appointment

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to an unnamed location in Southeast Asia, the

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119th wing of the North Dakota Air National Guard

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also sent some hardware. Last week, the Hooligans

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Welcomed home, airmen sent overseas in May in

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one of two of the unit's C -21A Lear jets. The

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deployment marks the first time the Hooligans

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sent a jet into a war zone, despite the many

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years the unit has been in operation. Dateline,

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Illinois. After a long year in Afghanistan with

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the Illinois National Guard, Staff Sergeant Tyrone

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Reddus was happy to be reunited with his Calumet

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City family at Soldier Field. I quote, The first

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thing I'm going to do is take off this uniform.

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I love my country, but I've been wearing it for

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a year," said Sergeant Redis as he was among

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the 147 troops to return from the state's largest

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National Guard deployment since World War II.

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His unit, the headquarters and headquarters company,

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1st Battalion, 178th Infantry, was deployed in

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Afghanistan. Each week, Welcome Home is brought

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to you by the Marine Scholars Program of Ave

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Maria University. And I remember that song very

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well. I remember that speech, I should say, very

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well. And I was wondering if I was going to end

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up there. And actually, I was looking forward

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to helping the troops. I was a CB. We built things

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in support. And we took that seriously. We're

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really pleased to welcome John Voight to Veterans

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Radio. John, welcome to Veterans Radio. Gary,

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I've been listening. You're doing a fantastic

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job. Oh, thank you so much. That really means

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a lot. The way this all came about is you gave

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a talk twice to the Vietnam Veterans at the Vietnam

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Veterans of America National Convention last

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week, and it was heartfelt. You could feel it

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and I approached you afterwards and asked if

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you'd be on Veterans Radio and you said absolutely.

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Tell us the story of how you happened to be on

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there. You phoned them and also Seinfeld, the

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Seinfeld tie -in at the banquet. Well, I have

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been working with a fellow by the name of Jose

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Ramos who's a sergeant, served in Vietnam. and

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he's been working on a welcome home day for the

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Vietnam Vets since the 90s and has organized

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gatherings out in California and I attended one

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of those gatherings and it was a tremendous gathering.

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He really organized a very large and very well

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attended gathering of the Vietnam Vets and I

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walked into it a couple of months ago and And

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of course, you know, my history is such that

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some people know that I was on the other side

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during the end of the 60s, beginning of the 70s.

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So it was kind of interesting for me to walk

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in there. But I've been with the Vietnam Vets

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for some time. I have to tell you, I've done

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a few things specifically for the Vets from that

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time as well. So I wasn't, you know, so uncomfortable

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because I... as I might have been if I had treated

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the vets badly and I never have done that. So

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I wasn't so uncomfortable but I really enjoyed

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seeing everybody and then I got up and made a

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little speech and admitted the error of my prior

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ways and sending my love to the guys and then

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they embraced me and we talked afterwards and

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then I met Sergeant Ramos there, Jose. And we

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decided that we would get together to do something

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on a national level. And the result of it was

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this visit to the convention. And for those who

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don't know, the VVA convention was in Louisville,

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Kentucky. And it was attended by, very well attended

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by, I guess over 650 people from across the country.

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A serious group. Yeah, a very serious group.

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I had given a speech to a group last year which

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was a USO gathering to raise funds for the USO

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in New York and General Petraeus had attended

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that. The audience was filled with military guys.

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I made a speech and the speech was very impactful

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to the people who were listening. I repeated

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that speech after some introduction and a joke

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or two, as you remember. And then I gave the

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same speech pretty much, adjusting only slightly

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to the guys who were there. And I would read

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that speech to the people listening now so that

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they would understand where I'm coming from and

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some of the things that I might have said there.

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Bob, will we have time in the first segment for

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him to read the speech? I think it's about five

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minutes long, is it? Yes, we do. Let me go right

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into it. I've got something serious on my mind

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because I was the MC that night and I said this.

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I said I feel humbled and greatly blessed to

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be here with you all. You are indeed our great

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American heroes. You are the true ones and I'm

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saying this now to all the people listening.

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to all the military listening. You are the true

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ones, the blessed ones. You understand the importance

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of keeping America safe. America could not be

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the great, powerful good without you. I've been

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asked to be with you tonight, and this is a great

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honor. And if I could, I would like to address

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a very serious topic that has plagued me for

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years. Back in the late 60s, I was one of those

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young people caught up in trying to end the Vietnam

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War. There was a fire and fever burning in our

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country. I'm saddened and ashamed of it if I

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knew then that a bloodbath of millions of innocent

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people would take place I certainly would not

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have been part of that insanity and to think

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today we still have people like William Ayres

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boasting about his terrorist acts against our

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government and proudly stating he still feels

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he didn't do enough and he and people like him

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are Given a voice to be able to spout their madness.

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We let him teach in our colleges where he is

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able to corrupt our new generation of young,

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impressionable minds. How sad I feel that our

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war heroes of Vietnam were not given a hero's

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welcome back then and their suffering was unimaginable.

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So many American lives lost in vain and no one

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hailed those that returned. Can we blame them

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for their bitterness? Our country turned against

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them. Because of people like William Ayres and

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all those who still refuse to admit they were

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wrong, we have almost seen a repeat of this madness

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during the Iraq war. We've seen how they tried

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to discredit our great general, Petraeus, trying

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to end this war before we saw victory. Yes, we

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still have a lot of people from the Vietnam era

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trying to bring the country down. And when I

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look out among all you great American heroes,

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I can be thankful to God. It has given me an

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opportunity to repent from my young, ignorant,

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arrogant days. And I'm here to be able to try

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to see it does not happen again. I would like

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to see a day of true remembrance, of true recognition

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to honor our Vietnam war heroes who fought the

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longest military conflict in U .S. history. Something

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specific just for them. I'm proud of you all.

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You are true magnificence. Thank you for letting

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me speak my heart. That speech really touched

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the hearts of a lot of people. Some of the comments,

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the one that sticks out in my mind was one of

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the guys said, what a stand -up guy. We always

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talk about clicks, clicks of elevation. The guys

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are saying that you went up a lot of clicks that

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day. Yeah, well it was a big day for me, very

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important for me to express that. I was able

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to meet all the guys during the brief time that

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I had. I think I must have shaken almost every

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hand in the place and had a word or two to share.

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I was deeply impressed with that group, I must

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say. I spent a lot of time in hospitals welcoming

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some of the kids back from our present war. And

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I'm very impressed with that group. This is of

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course a full volunteer group and they are the

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best of us, as I say, you know. When I was with

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the Vietnam vets, I must tell you, I said, no,

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maybe these guys are even of a higher understanding

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because they're wiser, older, been through more

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stuff and really have... extraordinary character.

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So those two groups of people are really the

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best we've got. Let me tell you a little experience

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Bob and I had a few weeks back. We observed the

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training at Camp Grayling, Michigan, a specialized

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training that the National Guard at this moment

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is going through. And we're going to do a program

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with that in the future. But I spent, I would

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always tell the troops, you know, older veterans

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are proud of you. And war is kind of tough, so

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you always... Have this question in your mind.

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Can the next generation do it? That feeling probably

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goes back to before the Roman legions And I said

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I want you guys to know that now you are we very?

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Comfortable we're very impressed with you and

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we think I think personally you guys are better

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than we were and you know Three different people

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at three different places said to me They said

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we have to be you guys set a very high standard.

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We have to live up to Wow, that's wonderful.

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That's difficult for me to say without choking

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up. Yeah. But you talked about looking in their

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eyes and the guys in the hospital beds and their

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attitude as they're laying in the hospital beds.

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Tell us about that. Yeah, well, I've heard it

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said prior to my going to Walter Reed and to

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the Bethesda Hospital down here in Maryland and

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then also to the the hospital down in San Diego

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where I am right now. I just did the Hannity

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Freedom concert last night and so I'm down, you

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know, close to my friends here. Who is that concert

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for by the way? The concert is, it's Sean Hannity

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has these freedom concerts and the concerts are

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to raise money for scholarships for the children

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of the four. What a noble cause. And this was

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the work of Colonel Oliver North and he hooked

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up with Sean and the two of them have been responsible

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for these concerts and they're just terrific.

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I didn't mention this to you, maybe I did. I

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came across a letter from the Government Department

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of Veterans Affairs recently as I'm cleaning

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out a bunch of boxes. It said it was for my scholarship,

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my GI bill, the money, I forget the term. is

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$24 .65 per month and you have 31 and a half

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months eligibility left. Less than $30 a month.

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Oh my God. I wasn't going full -time, admittedly.

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The guy's going full -time, probably got three

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or four times that much. Well, you know, there's

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nothing... We should be surrounding these warriors,

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you guys and these fellows we're fighting today.

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with everything. We should just give them every

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kind of backup. It's more than just putting a

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bumper sticker on. Oh man, we've got to do that.

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That's the big work. I was in touch with some

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of these guys who were fighting this land grab

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of veteran lands. I hooked up with them shortly

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after I came back. They were also terrific guys.

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Gee, wonderful fellows. So I'm on that team too.

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You know, so we'll be doing a little work with

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them. But that's what our country has to do.

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And one of the reasons why I really feel a day

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to honor the Vietnam vets, I know the Vietnam

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vets don't need it in a certain sense. They don't

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need it. They've gone through all the damn pain

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that they can go through. And they've, you know,

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developed very strong character. And those that

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have, well, of course, those that were there

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were... very successful people who have had families

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and overcome so many things. But it's almost

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more necessary for the country. The country really

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needs to make amends. And there isn't anybody

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that I have talked to about giving a day of welcome

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home to the Vietnam guys that hasn't said, oh,

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that's important, John. That's important. We

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got to do that. And this goes across the... the

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political lines and everything else I mean there's

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nobody who hasn't understood that so I think

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the time has come when people just say please

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let us please let us make some make up some of

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the for some of the things we did well society

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has a huge part in the healing of people coming

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back from a war the world everybody talks about

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how the world war two guys got on with their

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lives but the whole country mourned for those

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that were killed there the more The whole country

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honored them for what they did. That helps you

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heal because you realize that it wasn't just

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in vain and it's not whether you win or lose.

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Our country thinks highly of you for doing it.

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Absolutely. I wanted to address something with

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what you said at some point, but maybe we'll

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do it after the break. I was just going to add

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on to that ADD. Never mind. Go ahead. What do

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you think people could do? For the vets? Correct.

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For you guys? No, not for the vets. For the troops

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overseas now. We really need to support them.

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Oh my gosh. Well, I think that once we clear

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the air, you know, I mean, the priorities are

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all messed up. Isn't that true? One thing that

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happened during 9 -11, in the aftermath of 9

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-11, people woke up to who the real heroes are.

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And that means the military, and that means the

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firemen, and the first responders. We needed

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to really wake up I'm an actor and I have a great

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respect for those of us who take our jobs seriously

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and the entertainers who have such great talent

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and give their talents to folks and stuff like

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that. But we've become very narcissistic, this

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community. And also, in a silly way, the country

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has been encouraged to view these people as something

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special and they're really not very special.

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They're certainly not as special as our military.

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or our firemen or our nurses or our teachers,

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the vocation is not a vocation that is heroic.

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And something's gotten way off here. So we've

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got to put that right. And I think that once

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it's put right again, you know, once we say,

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hey, listen, fellas, there are people who are

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signing the blank checks. who are putting their

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lives on the line for us every day. These are

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the people that we should be revering, and we

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should be caring for them, especially when they're

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in need. In any way, we should drop everything

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else and take care of these guys and gals and

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their families. They should not be able to fall.

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We should be backing them up in every way. I

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was at a VBA convention, oh, maybe 8, 10 years

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ago, and Dale Dye, who is the political, not

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political, the military consultant. I know him,

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yeah. He's a character, isn't he? Well, you know,

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I don't know him to know he's a character. I

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just know that I bumped into him a couple of

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times. I always thought he was a good guy, you

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know. Oh, he definitely is, yeah. Yeah, I think

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he's a real guy. In fact, right now, that's...

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You know, he's involved, the good thing about...

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about him is that he's connected to some real

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loonies out here that he gets along with. And

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he's actually able to take a seat at the table

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and stick up for proper values in some of these

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discussions. That's where I find him to be helpful.

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For people in the listening audience who don't

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know who Dale Dye is, he's been on the program,

00:24:02.019 --> 00:24:03.980
but that was about five years ago. Yeah, yeah.

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And he is the military consultant and he's become

00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:10.500
very close friends with Tom Hanks and Gary Sinise

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because he's done the work on Forrest Gump. He's

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also a close friend of Oliver Stone's. Oliver

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Stone, his first break was the movie Platoon.

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What he does is he prepares the actors. for playing

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the role of somebody in a war and as I said to

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him When I saw platoon I leaned over to a buddy

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of mine who had not been in the military and

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I said I don't know how they did it, but they

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got the eyes right those eyes were tired and

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What he does is he takes him up in the mountains

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for three weeks And he has them walking patrols

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with heavy packs getting ambushed not getting

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much sleep and all that then they go right to

00:24:48.529 --> 00:24:52.109
filming He's not easy on them. They get ambushed,

00:24:52.109 --> 00:24:55.049
they do assault. But one thing that he said at

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that convention, which ties in with what you're

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saying, when someone in the military raises their

00:25:03.130 --> 00:25:06.589
hand and takes that oath, they're not saying,

00:25:07.230 --> 00:25:10.730
I'm willing to give up a couple days' pay or

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I'm willing to give up some overtime or some

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vacation time. I'm willing to give up my life

00:25:20.009 --> 00:25:23.930
if need be for my country." And that hits the

00:25:23.930 --> 00:25:28.490
nail on the head. And how can we not honor those

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that are out there protecting? They took an oath

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and basically it's an open written blank check.

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I'll give up my life for my country and they

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do. So you are doing wonderful work and you've

00:25:43.410 --> 00:25:45.920
been going to the hospitals. What do you see

00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:49.000
when you talk to those wounded troops? Well,

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I always am amazed when I walk in those doors.

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And by the way, I always feel better coming out

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than when I go in, you know. I'm always a little

00:25:57.819 --> 00:26:00.539
worried that I won't be able to take it a little

00:26:00.539 --> 00:26:04.200
bit and that I won't say the right things and

00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:06.400
be of good cheer to these guys. But I don't have

00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:09.480
to worry about it. I go in those doors and no

00:26:09.480 --> 00:26:13.259
matter what the injury, I'm meeting a cheerful

00:26:13.259 --> 00:26:15.960
person. I say, �How are you doing ?� And they

00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:19.480
say, �Oh, we�re doing real good, real good, John.

00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:23.059
Thank you.� You know what I mean? Oh, my God.

00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:24.799
It might be in a body cast. It might have been.

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No, it�s real, yes. Serious injuries. Right.

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Always looking for a moment of good cheer or

00:26:31.779 --> 00:26:35.880
laughter. And thank you for your service. No

00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:40.089
problem. No problem. That's what you get. I'm

00:26:40.089 --> 00:26:41.869
laying in a hospital bed, but no problem. And

00:26:41.869 --> 00:26:43.730
then you say, well, what do you want to do? I'd

00:26:43.730 --> 00:26:45.630
like to get back in there. I'd like to get back

00:26:45.630 --> 00:26:49.089
with my guys. As soon as they fix this leg, I'll

00:26:49.089 --> 00:26:50.970
be able to do something with it. Hopefully, I'll

00:26:50.970 --> 00:26:54.410
be able to keep it. But if I lose it, they'll

00:26:54.410 --> 00:26:57.490
find something else for me to do. Whatever. It's

00:26:57.490 --> 00:27:00.069
like you can't believe what you're seeing in

00:27:00.069 --> 00:27:02.410
terms of this positive energy and the strength

00:27:02.410 --> 00:27:08.000
of these people. Obviously, they have their good

00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:10.319
days in bed when you're in a hospital. You have

00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:12.200
your down days, especially with those who are

00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:16.640
seriously injured, but they're extraordinary.

00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:19.700
We've got a half a minute left, and I wanted

00:27:19.700 --> 00:27:22.640
to comment on that. I asked the question earlier,

00:27:22.779 --> 00:27:25.839
what can people do for our troops? There's VA

00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:28.299
hospitals all across the country. They could

00:27:28.299 --> 00:27:32.789
volunteer. Also, you know, just in saying, absolutely

00:27:32.789 --> 00:27:34.849
volunteer, but you know, the one thing they can

00:27:34.849 --> 00:27:38.150
do is visit. Just go. Exactly. You know, just

00:27:38.150 --> 00:27:41.049
go spend it. If you have a little free time,

00:27:41.230 --> 00:27:43.529
go over there and bring them some flowers or

00:27:43.529 --> 00:27:46.049
something. We're going off in four seconds. Will

00:27:46.049 --> 00:27:49.009
you stay with us? Yes. Thank you so much. We'll

00:27:49.009 --> 00:27:51.890
be back. The Medal of Honor is the highest award

00:27:51.890 --> 00:27:54.009
for valor in combat given a member of the Armed

00:27:54.009 --> 00:27:56.289
Forces of the United States. There had been over

00:27:56.289 --> 00:27:59.250
3 ,400 recipients of the nation's highest award.

00:28:00.109 --> 00:28:02.809
This is one of them. Marine Corps Sergeant Daniel

00:28:02.809 --> 00:28:05.289
Matthews became a one -man army before being

00:28:05.289 --> 00:28:10.750
killed. Details after this. Back against a firmly

00:28:10.750 --> 00:28:12.910
entrenched and well -concealed North Vietnamese

00:28:12.910 --> 00:28:15.970
force, Matthews fearlessly advanced in the attack

00:28:15.970 --> 00:28:18.589
until his squad was pinned down by a murderous

00:28:18.589 --> 00:28:21.750
sweep of fire from an enemy machine gun. Observing

00:28:21.750 --> 00:28:23.930
that the deadly fire prevented a corpsman from

00:28:23.930 --> 00:28:27.549
removing a wounded man in an open area, Matthews

00:28:27.549 --> 00:28:29.269
worked his way to the base of the hostile and

00:28:29.269 --> 00:28:31.630
machine gun emplacement, leaped onto the rock

00:28:31.630 --> 00:28:34.509
formations surrounding the gun, and single -handedly

00:28:34.509 --> 00:28:36.670
charged the hostile emplacement with his rifle.

00:28:37.609 --> 00:28:39.509
Although severely wounded when the enemy brought

00:28:39.509 --> 00:28:42.170
a withering hail of fire to bear upon him, he

00:28:42.170 --> 00:28:45.349
continued his one -man assault, and firing his

00:28:45.349 --> 00:28:48.130
rifle with deadly effectiveness, succeeded in

00:28:48.130 --> 00:28:50.970
killing two of the enemy, routing a third, and

00:28:50.970 --> 00:28:53.309
completely silencing the enemy weapon, thereby

00:28:53.309 --> 00:28:55.630
enabling his car meds to evacuate the stricken

00:28:55.630 --> 00:28:59.109
Marine to a safe position. Matthew succumbed

00:28:59.109 --> 00:29:01.829
to his wounds before aid could reach him. The

00:29:01.829 --> 00:29:03.910
Medal of Honor series is a production of Veterans

00:29:03.910 --> 00:29:28.640
Radio. We're back on the air and we've lost John

00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:31.920
Voight again, so Bob is dialing the number. But

00:29:31.920 --> 00:29:34.839
before we get him back on, what he is working

00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:38.839
towards to help promote with Sergeant Jose Ramos

00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:42.480
is a welcome home for Vietnam veterans that will

00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:46.759
be nationwide. It does not have to be a huge

00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:50.119
parade, although he'd like to see parades take

00:29:50.119 --> 00:29:53.279
place. It could be a block party. It could be

00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:56.359
an event at a shopping mall. It could be a city

00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:59.299
sponsored, a town sponsored, a church sponsored

00:29:59.299 --> 00:30:04.519
event. And it's March 28th. There's a Vietnam

00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:07.740
Veterans Recognition Day passed by Congress of

00:30:07.740 --> 00:30:12.059
March 30th. And this would be two days beforehand

00:30:12.059 --> 00:30:16.700
because March 30th is on a Tuesday and they're

00:30:16.700 --> 00:30:18.920
looking for the event to be held on, I guess

00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:24.069
that would be Saturday. It's funny that Congress

00:30:24.069 --> 00:30:26.970
picked March 30th because all of the bills when

00:30:26.970 --> 00:30:30.109
I was researching trying to find the date said

00:30:30.109 --> 00:30:33.190
March 29th and that had to do with some event

00:30:33.190 --> 00:30:35.329
at the end of the Vietnam War. I have no idea.

00:30:35.650 --> 00:30:39.289
I don't remember what but they selected March

00:30:39.289 --> 00:30:43.710
30th anyway and so that's the official day every

00:30:43.710 --> 00:30:46.630
year for Vietnam Veterans Recognition Day and

00:30:46.630 --> 00:30:51.339
the Welcome Home Event the welcome home party

00:30:51.339 --> 00:30:56.140
for Vietnam vets will be March 28 2010 Don't

00:30:56.140 --> 00:30:58.599
wait for somebody else to organize it. You can

00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:04.440
organize it yourself But one of the things he

00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:07.980
John was talking about gave me made me think

00:31:07.980 --> 00:31:12.460
about and it had to do with our freedom and Benjamin

00:31:12.460 --> 00:31:16.960
Franklin said he who gives up freedom for temporary

00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:21.039
safety deserves neither freedom nor safety and

00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:25.680
that's The country wasn't built on marshmallows.

00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:29.420
I mean this was built by hard people doing hard

00:31:29.420 --> 00:31:32.279
things to create freedom the first country in

00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:35.019
the world that had it like that and like we have

00:31:35.019 --> 00:31:39.400
it and We need to preserve that we need to when

00:31:39.400 --> 00:31:44.299
I talk to Along with other vets to high school

00:31:44.299 --> 00:31:47.910
classes The kids asked, you know, why did you

00:31:47.910 --> 00:31:51.150
join the military? And I was shocked to hear

00:31:51.150 --> 00:31:53.910
that other people said the same thing I said,

00:31:54.190 --> 00:31:58.869
and that was John F. Kennedy said, ask not what

00:31:58.869 --> 00:32:02.630
you can, what your country can do for you, ask

00:32:02.630 --> 00:32:04.470
what you can do for your country. And we've got

00:32:04.470 --> 00:32:07.849
John Voight back on the line. John, we keep using

00:32:07.849 --> 00:32:13.730
you, I'm sorry. The name of the game with this

00:32:13.730 --> 00:32:17.549
technology, huh, Gary? Right. Well, yeah, I shouldn't

00:32:17.549 --> 00:32:19.490
complain. You're sitting over there in California,

00:32:20.250 --> 00:32:22.809
and we're over here in Ann Arbor, Michigan, and

00:32:22.809 --> 00:32:24.690
we're talking like we're sitting next door to

00:32:24.690 --> 00:32:26.769
each other, and people all around the world are

00:32:26.769 --> 00:32:28.730
listening like we're sitting next door to each

00:32:28.730 --> 00:32:31.609
other. Absolutely. I was just talking about that

00:32:31.609 --> 00:32:35.710
National Day of Celebration that Jose Ramos and

00:32:35.710 --> 00:32:39.210
you are working on. Yeah. What is your vision

00:32:39.210 --> 00:32:43.319
for it? Well, the idea would be just to have,

00:32:44.259 --> 00:32:46.960
you know, have all across the country. First

00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:48.880
of all, let me say that the Senate and the House

00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:51.920
have both voted to have a day of recognition

00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:57.380
for the Vietnam vets on March 30th. And that

00:32:57.380 --> 00:32:59.859
falls on a Tuesday. So we were thinking on that

00:32:59.859 --> 00:33:03.599
Sunday, the 28th, that we would have this welcome

00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:08.240
home day across the country in malls and on baseball

00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:14.450
fields. and military bases, just all across the

00:33:14.450 --> 00:33:20.269
country, block parties to welcome home the Vietnam

00:33:20.269 --> 00:33:24.150
vets and have whatever day, whatever way the

00:33:24.150 --> 00:33:26.910
celebration might take place in a local spot,

00:33:27.630 --> 00:33:31.210
that they would find a way to take those vets

00:33:31.210 --> 00:33:35.170
who are local and salute them and stand for them

00:33:35.170 --> 00:33:38.509
and honor them. uh... you know uh... and and

00:33:38.509 --> 00:33:41.109
there's so much to express so the day would be

00:33:41.109 --> 00:33:44.150
full of a lot of real information and then a

00:33:44.150 --> 00:33:46.950
lot of happiness and and you know family fun

00:33:46.950 --> 00:33:50.029
and all of that but the the people like myself

00:33:50.029 --> 00:33:52.750
and many people all across the country would

00:33:52.750 --> 00:33:54.849
be able to stand up and say i'm sorry for what

00:33:54.849 --> 00:33:57.670
happened and let's not let that happen to the

00:33:57.670 --> 00:34:00.170
new guys who are so in need when they're coming

00:34:00.170 --> 00:34:02.190
back and let's surround those guys with love

00:34:02.190 --> 00:34:04.410
so it's a it's a two -pronged thing it's one

00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:07.759
to celebrate and welcome home the vets of the

00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:11.400
Vietnam era and then to take that energy and

00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:15.820
pledge that we will surround the new warriors

00:34:15.820 --> 00:34:18.320
with all sorts of love, understanding what they

00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:20.800
go through and do everything we can for them.

00:34:20.980 --> 00:34:24.179
So that's the idea. Recognizing what they go

00:34:24.179 --> 00:34:26.179
through, I don't know if anybody could ever understand

00:34:26.179 --> 00:34:29.559
it like, oh there was somebody said something

00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:33.340
to me that indicated that I was pro -war. And

00:34:33.340 --> 00:34:37.099
I said, excuse me, there's nobody who is more

00:34:37.099 --> 00:34:38.980
opposed to war than those who have been there.

00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:41.480
And I've told my veteran friends about that statement,

00:34:41.780 --> 00:34:43.599
and we all laugh, and we say, yeah, who would

00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:46.039
not want to have your feet rotting off? Who would

00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:48.500
not want to be wet all the time, mud all the

00:34:48.500 --> 00:34:50.860
time, so tired you don't know if you can take

00:34:50.860 --> 00:34:53.119
another step, scared to death half the time,

00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:58.159
lonely, hungry? Who wouldn't want that? For people

00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:00.159
that say that somebody who's been there is pro

00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:04.250
-war, it is laughable. And you can't ever understand

00:35:04.250 --> 00:35:07.789
it Yeah, it's very very important that and I

00:35:07.789 --> 00:35:10.289
think that in the idea that people don't want

00:35:10.289 --> 00:35:12.809
to know that in a certain sense because it makes

00:35:12.809 --> 00:35:15.670
them feel guilty for not participating and I

00:35:15.670 --> 00:35:20.130
think and and I think that That's what's so important.

00:35:20.150 --> 00:35:23.170
We should recognize the people the heroes who

00:35:23.170 --> 00:35:25.510
are doing this workforce on a daily basis for

00:35:25.510 --> 00:35:29.329
us to have the freedoms that we have and to the

00:35:29.329 --> 00:35:34.340
enjoyments and and the And just every aspect

00:35:34.340 --> 00:35:40.340
of our daily lives is paid for by members of

00:35:40.340 --> 00:35:43.199
our community who are heroic. Let me tell you

00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:46.380
something that occurred the other day to me.

00:35:46.699 --> 00:35:48.820
I went to one of the town hall meetings on the

00:35:48.820 --> 00:35:51.679
health plan and as chance would have it I was

00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.559
standing in line next to a 30 year old guy who

00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:57.280
was a lieutenant and now out of the military

00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.000
who had done two tours in Iraq. And we were talking

00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:03.130
about Iraq. a lot and what's going on over there.

00:36:03.969 --> 00:36:06.110
I told stories about Vietnam. He told stories

00:36:06.110 --> 00:36:09.829
about Iraq. At one point, listen to this, he

00:36:09.829 --> 00:36:11.530
looked around and he said, do you know what I

00:36:11.530 --> 00:36:14.510
love about America? I asked, what's that? He

00:36:14.510 --> 00:36:17.010
said, look at this crowd waiting to go into a

00:36:17.010 --> 00:36:20.030
political meeting. It's a huge crowd. It was

00:36:20.030 --> 00:36:23.309
600 people. He said, you know what? Nobody's

00:36:23.309 --> 00:36:25.449
looking around nervously to see if there's a

00:36:25.449 --> 00:36:33.059
suicide bomber or a car bomb approaching. And

00:36:33.059 --> 00:36:35.900
boy, when you hear something like that from somebody

00:36:35.900 --> 00:36:39.079
who has seen it, and he had seen the aftermath

00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:42.599
of those car bombs and suicide bombers, and when

00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:44.820
you hear something like that say that about America,

00:36:45.099 --> 00:36:48.940
you realize, really realize how much we take

00:36:48.940 --> 00:36:55.219
for granted. Yeah, you bet. There was a point

00:36:55.219 --> 00:36:58.780
when they were looking around for the man of

00:36:58.780 --> 00:37:02.750
the year. Time Magazine, Man of the Year, Newsweek.

00:37:04.750 --> 00:37:08.030
All I could think of was our guys over in Iraq.

00:37:08.210 --> 00:37:10.150
I'm saying, what's the matter with you people?

00:37:10.210 --> 00:37:13.510
Don't you understand? It's obvious who the Man

00:37:13.510 --> 00:37:15.789
of the Year is. The Man of the Year is our soldier.

00:37:17.150 --> 00:37:19.690
Exactly. And let's not forget the women. Boy,

00:37:19.829 --> 00:37:22.949
it's made up about 15 % of women now. Oh yes,

00:37:22.949 --> 00:37:26.010
yes. And you know, whenever you are the soldiers.

00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:28.920
and know the sacrifices they've been through

00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:31.280
and empathize with that aspect. You certainly

00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:35.900
must also include their families who do those

00:37:35.900 --> 00:37:39.219
vigils, you know, who are just, you know, staying

00:37:39.219 --> 00:37:43.679
at home, praying every day, thinking about their

00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:50.260
boys and girls. Yeah, absolutely, going through

00:37:50.260 --> 00:37:54.380
that suffering until they can touch their loved

00:37:54.380 --> 00:37:58.079
one again. I've become very close to some high

00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:02.099
school kids that come to work for me and I think

00:38:02.099 --> 00:38:05.300
periodically about events that might take them

00:38:05.300 --> 00:38:07.900
off to a war. I get tears in my eyes and I have

00:38:07.900 --> 00:38:10.300
to walk away before somebody thinks I'm nuts

00:38:10.300 --> 00:38:13.480
and I've come to realize it's easier, at least

00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:15.440
in my experience, I've talked to guys that have

00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:18.059
been in combat and I said you know it's easier

00:38:18.059 --> 00:38:20.199
to go to war than it is to have a son or daughter

00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:23.099
go to war and boy everybody agrees to a person.

00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:26.900
And that goes for the wives, the spouses I should

00:38:26.900 --> 00:38:32.760
say. And thank God kids don't have enough experience

00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:38.480
to really understand why they should worry. But

00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:42.500
we've got a little over two minutes left in this

00:38:42.500 --> 00:38:49.110
segment. I want to talk about that Seinfeld episode

00:38:49.110 --> 00:38:51.809
at the beginning. Wes Guidry and Mark Leapsen,

00:38:52.030 --> 00:38:55.409
who are part of National Headquarters BVA, what

00:38:55.409 --> 00:38:59.349
was that skit based on that they did on the screen?

00:38:59.710 --> 00:39:03.530
What program was that? I can't remember. It was

00:39:03.530 --> 00:39:08.769
a Seinfeld program in which George Costanza had

00:39:08.769 --> 00:39:11.289
been sold a car based on the fact that it was

00:39:11.289 --> 00:39:16.199
John Voight's car. And you can imagine Well,

00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:19.239
I don't know if you can imagine. I was asked

00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:23.039
if I would do a Seinfeld, if I would appear on

00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:25.199
a Seinfeld. That's when the question came to

00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:28.639
me. That's how I found out about this. And they

00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:31.380
were such a good team. I really thought that

00:39:31.380 --> 00:39:33.780
they were a tremendous comedy team. And I said,

00:39:33.820 --> 00:39:35.780
boy, these guys are terrific. And of course I

00:39:35.780 --> 00:39:40.820
would do that. It was based on that TV game show

00:39:40.820 --> 00:39:43.980
where you have to ask a question and they showed

00:39:44.300 --> 00:39:48.239
Thirty clips were in that program. Somebody was

00:39:48.239 --> 00:39:50.420
saying, John Voight, John Voight, John Voight,

00:39:50.460 --> 00:39:54.480
John Voight. Well, that was part of the... All

00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:56.860
of that was part of the show. They cut it up.

00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:01.820
And I must say that Wes and Mark, Mark Leibson

00:40:01.820 --> 00:40:05.360
and Wes Guidry, I don't know how they did that.

00:40:05.380 --> 00:40:08.139
They didn't have any time. I'd called them just

00:40:08.139 --> 00:40:11.619
a couple of weeks before the event to say, I'd

00:40:11.619 --> 00:40:14.769
love to visit and speak to the guys. And they

00:40:14.769 --> 00:40:16.750
put through this thing together and they went

00:40:16.750 --> 00:40:19.409
through this Seinfeld episode and they cut it

00:40:19.409 --> 00:40:21.409
together and put together this nice little video.

00:40:22.090 --> 00:40:25.130
And it was really funny how many times my name

00:40:25.130 --> 00:40:26.869
was mentioned on that show and they put them

00:40:26.869 --> 00:40:29.730
all together so it was quite funny. And they

00:40:29.730 --> 00:40:31.690
did it as a game show where you asked the question

00:40:31.690 --> 00:40:34.690
and then the answer was who is Jerry Seinfeld?

00:40:35.210 --> 00:40:37.630
And that caught everyone by surprise and we cracked

00:40:37.630 --> 00:40:41.579
up. We're going to be back in 16 seconds. Are

00:40:41.579 --> 00:40:44.699
you willing to stay for us with the last 15 minutes?

00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:48.480
That would be great. If you're listening to Veterans

00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:52.440
Radio, coming to you on Veterans Radio Network,

00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:55.300
we'll be right back. We're back on Veterans Radio

00:40:55.300 --> 00:40:57.820
with John Voight. And before I leave that Seinfeld

00:40:57.820 --> 00:41:01.119
clip, in doing my research, I found out that

00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:03.940
the writer who wrote that skit wrote it because

00:41:03.940 --> 00:41:06.300
it's exactly what happened to him. He bought

00:41:06.300 --> 00:41:10.889
a car that was owned by a John Voight. And he

00:41:10.889 --> 00:41:13.030
thought it was you, and he told all his friends

00:41:13.030 --> 00:41:16.070
that he bought John Voight's car. That's right.

00:41:16.190 --> 00:41:23.130
So it was a true event. When I went to the set,

00:41:23.269 --> 00:41:26.570
Gary, he came up to me very humbly and quietly.

00:41:26.809 --> 00:41:30.489
He said, could I ask you to take ten minutes

00:41:30.489 --> 00:41:33.110
out and then just walk with me for a second.

00:41:33.510 --> 00:41:35.610
I said, sure. He walked around the corner of

00:41:35.610 --> 00:41:39.579
the set, and there was this... You know Chrysler

00:41:39.579 --> 00:41:42.260
convertible. He said is this your car? Did you

00:41:42.260 --> 00:41:46.699
ever own this car? He still was tried. He couldn't

00:41:46.699 --> 00:41:50.019
believe he was taken, you know, oh my gosh, that's

00:41:50.019 --> 00:41:53.679
funny and Then you had to learn the awful truth

00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:58.679
Yeah back in what other? People and how the Baron

00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:02.340
can the little Baron convertible. Okay. Yeah,

00:42:02.340 --> 00:42:04.659
that was a while back wasn't it? Go ahead. Go

00:42:04.659 --> 00:42:08.199
ahead What other Hollywood actors and personalities

00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:12.539
are behind the vets and doing things for them?

00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:19.059
There's quite a lot of guys, but you know there's

00:42:19.059 --> 00:42:21.380
guys like Powers Booth and certainly Clint Eastwood

00:42:21.380 --> 00:42:25.940
as well. But the guy who's doing the most, and

00:42:25.940 --> 00:42:29.320
he's just a sensational guy, is Gary Sinise.

00:42:29.500 --> 00:42:32.860
Yeah. And you know he has his band, the lieutenant.

00:42:34.369 --> 00:42:37.929
Lieutenant Dan Band, is that what it is? And

00:42:37.929 --> 00:42:43.849
he's constantly traveling, he was just on the

00:42:43.849 --> 00:42:46.409
East Coast. And he goes all over the place and

00:42:46.409 --> 00:42:48.469
he's been to Iraq several times and he's been

00:42:48.469 --> 00:42:53.730
to Afghanistan. He's the Bob Hope of today, this

00:42:53.730 --> 00:42:58.369
guy. And a good friend of mine and we've spent

00:42:58.369 --> 00:43:02.349
a lot of time together in California. And our

00:43:02.349 --> 00:43:05.260
friendship is based on I love the troops and

00:43:05.260 --> 00:43:08.739
her, you know, love of the country. When you

00:43:08.739 --> 00:43:11.119
did the movie, Coming Home, what was your feeling

00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:14.039
about the troops at that time? I mean, you're

00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:16.239
a great actor, I know that, because I've hated

00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:20.699
you a lot. Well, I always had the, thank God,

00:43:20.820 --> 00:43:23.619
I always had a respect for the troops, as I said.

00:43:24.619 --> 00:43:28.820
But, you know, I was just coming out of it, actually,

00:43:28.900 --> 00:43:32.820
coming out of this fog. Even while the programming

00:43:32.820 --> 00:43:34.679
was so deep, and that's why I understand what's

00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:37.900
going on today. Very serious business, you know.

00:43:38.179 --> 00:43:41.559
This programming and of course all of that stuff

00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:44.420
in the 60s. It was Marxist programming. It was

00:43:44.420 --> 00:43:48.800
a communist run marches. It was real propaganda.

00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:54.019
And it's what's happening today in many ways.

00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:57.159
You have to be suspicious about some things.

00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:00.679
When the highest ranking KGB officer ever, and

00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:03.719
he had up the KGB in one of the countries, Eastern

00:44:03.719 --> 00:44:08.639
Bloc countries, defected, he said that their

00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:12.980
budget for the protest movement exceeded their

00:44:12.980 --> 00:44:17.340
budget for arms and ammunition, weapons, and

00:44:17.340 --> 00:44:22.139
economic aid combined to North Vietnam. Say this

00:44:22.139 --> 00:44:24.420
again. I think I'm trying to remember this. Their

00:44:24.420 --> 00:44:28.099
military budget? No, their budget for propaganda

00:44:28.099 --> 00:44:31.539
of the Vietnam War, the protest movement. Exceeded

00:44:31.539 --> 00:44:35.500
the combination of their military aid and economic

00:44:35.500 --> 00:44:40.880
aid combined. So a lot of stuff that even that's

00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:44.280
taught in schools is repetition of those days

00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:49.380
and it's false. Absolutely right. So when you

00:44:49.380 --> 00:44:52.519
go back and examine it and I did wake up You

00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:54.320
know, I woke up and I said, hey, wait a minute.

00:44:54.420 --> 00:44:56.099
It's almost like I woke up in the middle of the

00:44:56.099 --> 00:44:59.820
night and said, what? And I said, this was all

00:44:59.820 --> 00:45:02.659
Marxist baloney. What am I talking about? What

00:45:02.659 --> 00:45:05.980
was I doing? You know, stuff like that. Waking

00:45:05.980 --> 00:45:09.039
up in a cold sweat and saying, where have I been?

00:45:09.579 --> 00:45:12.380
But you know, we saw the end of the war. And

00:45:12.380 --> 00:45:15.559
even then, I wasn't quite turned around. But

00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:18.199
I saw this horror take place. And I saw the left

00:45:18.199 --> 00:45:22.139
walk away. and not take responsibility for what

00:45:22.139 --> 00:45:26.599
they had caused. And then the dimes started to

00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:29.400
drop, you know, and little by little I became

00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:32.519
alert. But it took me a while, so I understand

00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:35.320
what's happening when people are heavily programmed.

00:45:35.380 --> 00:45:37.460
It's very hard to talk to them. I think people

00:45:37.460 --> 00:45:42.000
ought to keep that in mind, too, when some of

00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:44.199
their actions are today. And that's why we learn

00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:47.909
history. The old saying is those that... don't

00:45:47.909 --> 00:45:51.710
learn history or are doomed to repeat it. That's

00:45:51.710 --> 00:45:53.909
one of the reasons why we talk about those things.

00:45:55.750 --> 00:45:58.630
I've never known a group that has more right

00:45:58.630 --> 00:46:01.769
not to be patriotic than Vietnam veterans. But

00:46:01.769 --> 00:46:04.050
as a whole, I don't know of a single group that

00:46:04.050 --> 00:46:14.480
is more patriotic than Vietnam veterans. that

00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:17.460
my take on it is that they are the ones that

00:46:17.460 --> 00:46:20.139
have kept us going. They are the ones who have

00:46:20.139 --> 00:46:23.559
stepped up and made sure that these guys who

00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:27.039
are returning are getting a proper welcome. Now,

00:46:27.219 --> 00:46:29.699
people have said to me, who didn't know this,

00:46:29.699 --> 00:46:32.539
you know, this architecture, they say to me,

00:46:32.539 --> 00:46:34.659
you know, well, at least we treat the guys better

00:46:34.659 --> 00:46:37.380
now, you know, they get their respect. Well,

00:46:37.380 --> 00:46:40.320
they don't get half the respect they should get,

00:46:40.360 --> 00:46:42.599
as far as I'm concerned, but the respect that

00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:46.099
they get is because the Vietnam vets will not

00:46:46.099 --> 00:46:49.159
let what happened to them happen to this group.

00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:52.380
And the founding principle of Vietnam Veterans

00:46:52.380 --> 00:46:54.659
of America going to the first convention when

00:46:54.659 --> 00:46:57.219
people were saying, well, who are we? What are

00:46:57.219 --> 00:47:00.019
we going to be? The founding principle is never

00:47:00.019 --> 00:47:02.280
again will one generation of veterans abandon

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another. That was a line from a speech given

00:47:05.519 --> 00:47:09.429
by a local state legislator who was a Vietnam

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vet and that was in a speech and everybody kept

00:47:11.429 --> 00:47:13.530
going back to it and they said that's who we

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are. You have become that and thank God you have

00:47:19.050 --> 00:47:23.329
become that and you know there's just this little

00:47:23.329 --> 00:47:28.610
tribute to a fellow on one of the few times that

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the military has been celebrated on mainstream

00:47:32.369 --> 00:47:37.800
media, Charles Gibson. gave attention to this

00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:41.280
fellow who had met you know thousands you know

00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:44.860
how many 50 ,000 flights in Massachusetts like

00:47:44.860 --> 00:47:50.219
a Vietnam vet and it was and it was very moving

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and the fellow was as impressive as the vets

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I met in Louisville it was wonderful to see that

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tribute and I hope it took it made its effect

00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:02.480
across the country and it was the first time

00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:05.750
I've seen it now I don't know what We know how

00:48:05.750 --> 00:48:08.409
that occurred, how that story became focused

00:48:08.409 --> 00:48:12.869
on. But it's something to build on. I say, well,

00:48:12.869 --> 00:48:15.989
that's a sign that we're starting to come around.

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Maybe we are making some inroads now. And I do

00:48:19.409 --> 00:48:21.670
think that things are changing right now. Politically,

00:48:21.670 --> 00:48:23.969
it's a very dangerous time. And I've alluded

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to that and I made a speech last night with the

00:48:26.429 --> 00:48:29.210
Hannity Freedom Concert talking about really

00:48:29.210 --> 00:48:32.170
the freedoms that we're losing, this takeover

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of our true freedoms. by this administration.

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That's the way I see it. It's a very dangerous

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time and these people are speaking out at the

00:48:41.639 --> 00:48:43.599
tea parties and stuff like that and they're being

00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:48.320
characterized by this administration as being

00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:51.300
thugs and bullies and these guys of this administration

00:48:51.300 --> 00:48:55.739
are professional at being agitators. You know,

00:48:56.039 --> 00:48:58.400
one of the things that I've said and, you know,

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I'm... And what they're doing is they're throwing

00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:03.940
people into the mix here to have fights at these

00:49:03.940 --> 00:49:06.760
tea parties and blaming it on the GOP. It's an

00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:09.760
insidious and very dangerous time for us right

00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:14.059
now as a nation. We need to forget parties and

00:49:14.059 --> 00:49:18.940
we need to think of country. First America, first

00:49:18.940 --> 00:49:25.610
family. God, America, party. Well, I have to

00:49:25.610 --> 00:49:28.110
say that right now we're fighting a force here.

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I have to say that the hope for me is in the

00:49:34.789 --> 00:49:38.829
Republican Party now. I know that these leaders,

00:49:39.090 --> 00:49:42.070
you know, I know most of the guys, and I've bumped

00:49:42.070 --> 00:49:44.190
into them, and there's tremendous leadership

00:49:44.190 --> 00:49:50.090
there with Romney and Giuliani and Gingrich and

00:49:50.090 --> 00:49:55.550
Sarah Palin. There are some good people coming

00:49:55.550 --> 00:49:58.130
up. Boy, I like Duncan 100. I don't know where

00:49:58.130 --> 00:50:02.309
you live. We're coming up to the break or to

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the end of the program, John, and I just really

00:50:05.469 --> 00:50:07.909
want to thank you for being on Veterans Radio.

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John Voight, star of Screen, big screen, little

00:50:13.329 --> 00:50:15.909
screen. Thank you once more and thank you for

00:50:15.909 --> 00:50:18.909
what you do for the vets. One more time, I just

00:50:18.909 --> 00:50:21.710
want to say to those guys listening, the Vietnam

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vets are are a tremendous force in our society

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today. I so much deeply appreciate them and I

00:50:28.130 --> 00:50:29.889
send my love to each and every one of you guys.

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Keep up the good work and hopefully we'll have

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this time when we can celebrate you and learn

00:50:34.469 --> 00:50:36.670
a few of the lessons you have to teach us. Thank

00:50:36.670 --> 00:50:38.550
you John Voigt and God bless you too.
