WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.520 Today's program is dedicated to all U .S. military 00:00:03.520 --> 00:00:22.079 personnel serving throughout the world. Live 00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:25.140 from the Veterans Radio Studios on the Ave Maria 00:00:25.140 --> 00:00:29.000 Network in Ann Arbor, Michigan, this... is Veterans 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:34.679 Radio. And now, here's your host, Bob Gould. 00:00:56.590 --> 00:00:58.390 In the future, if you happen, you're just going 00:00:58.390 --> 00:01:01.270 to have to click on Listen Live, and it'll be 00:01:01.270 --> 00:01:05.189 the live program because our program is live 00:01:05.189 --> 00:01:07.390 right here from beautiful Ann Arbor, Michigan. 00:01:07.650 --> 00:01:11.849 This is Bobby Gould, that's right, E3PFC, Robert 00:01:11.849 --> 00:01:16.409 C. Gould, U .S. Military First Infantry Division, 00:01:16.829 --> 00:01:19.810 101st Airborne. Yeah, all my trooper friends 00:01:19.810 --> 00:01:21.980 out there. I do want to say a couple things. 00:01:22.260 --> 00:01:26.219 There is no use stream today. No use stream. 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:28.540 So we're going to be delaying that for at least 00:01:28.540 --> 00:01:30.480 a couple of weeks to see if we can get all the 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:33.640 technical information and all the little bugs 00:01:33.640 --> 00:01:37.000 up to speed. Today's program, we're going to 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:39.920 be replaying the program that we pre -recorded 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:44.019 on March the 5th. We'll be right back after this 00:01:44.019 --> 00:01:53.620 very important message. Okay, Bob Gould back 00:01:53.620 --> 00:01:56.400 with you live on Veterans Radio and I want to 00:01:56.400 --> 00:01:59.359 remind you today's program was pre -recorded 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:02.120 on the 5th of March with Gary Lilly your host 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:05.239 Sergeant David Hack will be our guest from US 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:08.560 wings and I do want to say there's no use stream 00:02:08.830 --> 00:02:38.379 today and now the interview. and has gone on 00:02:38.379 --> 00:02:40.919 to become an incredibly successful businessman. 00:02:41.860 --> 00:02:44.719 I would like to this morning welcome Sarge Dave 00:02:44.719 --> 00:02:47.759 Hack. Good morning Sarge. I told you guys don't 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:52.500 let me push buttons. Good morning Sarge. Welcome 00:02:52.500 --> 00:02:56.659 to Veterans Radio. Thank you. Okay. Well, we 00:02:56.659 --> 00:02:58.580 got a picture of you. Pretty good looking guy, 00:02:58.740 --> 00:03:02.180 man. Where were you born? I was born in Louisville, 00:03:02.180 --> 00:03:06.129 Kentucky, April 21st, 1940. When you went to 00:03:06.129 --> 00:03:09.289 school there, you already had a family that had 00:03:09.289 --> 00:03:13.090 been in the military. My oldest brother and second 00:03:13.090 --> 00:03:16.250 oldest brother had served in Korea during the 00:03:16.250 --> 00:03:18.409 Korean War in the United States Marine Corps. 00:03:19.210 --> 00:03:23.650 What did they do? They were in aviation. My oldest 00:03:23.650 --> 00:03:29.210 brother was a pilot and still is, and my second 00:03:29.210 --> 00:03:34.789 oldest brother was in office work. in the first 00:03:34.789 --> 00:03:36.889 air wing with the United States Marine Corps. 00:03:37.610 --> 00:03:43.250 Okay. One of them is since deceased? The third 00:03:43.250 --> 00:03:45.729 oldest brother is deceased. His name was Lloyd 00:03:45.729 --> 00:03:50.310 Hack. Was he in the military also? No, he wasn't. 00:03:50.629 --> 00:03:55.669 He died at a very young age. He died at 54 years 00:03:55.669 --> 00:04:00.080 of age. I'm sorry to hear that. I thought one 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:04.240 of the ones serving in Korea had died. No sir. 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:10.620 Okay. Before you served in Vietnam, before you 00:04:10.620 --> 00:04:12.719 served in the Army, you served in the Coast Guard. 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:15.240 Tell us about that and why did you join the Coast 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:18.920 Guard? I had entered the Coast Guard immediately 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:24.120 after high school in 1957. The Coast Guard was 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:26.920 extremely challenging. I still feel that way 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:31.000 today. I served four years in the Coast Guard. 00:04:31.699 --> 00:04:36.680 Two of the four years I stayed seasick was on 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:39.800 ships. I had thought that the Coast Guard was 00:04:39.800 --> 00:04:44.339 protecting the coast, but I was misled a little 00:04:44.339 --> 00:04:46.939 bit there. The Coast Guard travels all over the 00:04:46.939 --> 00:04:52.949 world in big ships. It was a rude awakening. 00:04:54.050 --> 00:04:57.649 One of the hosts and producers on Veterans Radio's 00:04:57.649 --> 00:05:01.069 father was in the Coast Guard in World War II. 00:05:01.310 --> 00:05:04.410 He served on an LST that was eventually hit by 00:05:04.410 --> 00:05:07.649 a kamikaze off of Okinawa. So they do range a 00:05:07.649 --> 00:05:10.250 little ways away from our coast. They most certainly 00:05:10.250 --> 00:05:13.930 do. When I was in the military, we used to joke 00:05:13.930 --> 00:05:16.310 about the Coast Guard saying you had to be six 00:05:16.310 --> 00:05:20.160 feet tall so you could wade ashore. And I've 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:22.480 heard that joke before too. I'm going to tell 00:05:22.480 --> 00:05:25.019 you something. I have since learned about the 00:05:25.019 --> 00:05:28.699 Coast Guard and they're brave. My gosh, they 00:05:28.699 --> 00:05:31.379 go out when everybody else is in trouble. That 00:05:31.379 --> 00:05:35.259 is a certified fact. They really do. So God bless 00:05:35.259 --> 00:05:38.600 the Coast Guard. You guys are incredible, incredible 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:43.720 and brave. Sarge, what happened when you got 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:46.180 out of the Coast Guard? When I left the Coast 00:05:46.180 --> 00:05:50.980 Guard, I still liked the military. I most certainly 00:05:50.980 --> 00:05:54.879 enjoyed the time of the service with the exception 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:57.740 of spending a lot of time on the fantel, getting 00:05:57.740 --> 00:06:00.420 seasick. Fantel meaning the back of the ship. 00:06:00.420 --> 00:06:05.199 Right. I went into private business and that 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:08.120 wasn't too successful for me. What kind of business? 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:11.980 I owned a night club in Louisville, Kentucky. 00:06:12.180 --> 00:06:17.079 Okay. And ran that for how old she was, close 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:22.259 to four years, about three years plus. What years 00:06:22.259 --> 00:06:27.339 would those be? 1961 to 1964. Okay, then I was 00:06:27.339 --> 00:06:31.519 never in it. Yes, sir. And then I was in Phoenix, 00:06:31.860 --> 00:06:36.660 Arizona. I was walking by this recruiting station 00:06:36.660 --> 00:06:41.420 and the door was open and this army sergeant 00:06:41.420 --> 00:06:44.579 was sitting there and he says, �Where are you 00:06:44.579 --> 00:06:47.740 going ?� And I says, �I don't know.� He says, 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:52.139 �What are you doing ?� And I says, �I don't know.� 00:06:52.139 --> 00:06:54.540 And he says, �Come here man, I want to talk to 00:06:54.540 --> 00:07:04.939 you.� I went in, sat down, and he says, �How 00:07:04.939 --> 00:07:07.800 would you like to join the Army ?� I said, �You 00:07:07.800 --> 00:07:10.399 know, I really hadn't thought about it, but I 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:14.800 did enjoy the military.� He says, �Look, how 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:17.439 would you like to join the Army Rangers ?� I 00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:19.879 said, �You know, I've heard about those guys, 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:22.980 and they don't go to sea, do they ?� He says, 00:07:22.980 --> 00:07:26.339 �No, they don't.� I said, �Well, you know, sign 00:07:26.339 --> 00:07:30.519 me up.� I enlisted at that time. I went to Fort 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:33.560 Ord, California. Tell me, how old were you at 00:07:33.560 --> 00:07:37.759 that time? I was 24. Boy, you've done a lot before 00:07:37.759 --> 00:07:42.800 you turned 24. You betcha. How old were you when 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:46.120 you enlisted in the Coast Guard? I was 17. Okay, 00:07:46.259 --> 00:07:50.139 you were legal. Yes, I was. With my parents' 00:07:50.220 --> 00:07:57.439 permission. been in Georgia to the 1st Ranger 00:07:57.439 --> 00:08:01.779 Battalion. And there they said, ha ha, you were 00:08:01.779 --> 00:08:04.779 in the Coast Guard. And I said, yeah. And they 00:08:04.779 --> 00:08:07.399 said, the Coast Guard runs small boats, don't 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:10.579 they? And I said, yes. And he said, we're going 00:08:10.579 --> 00:08:13.939 to send you to Eglin Air Force Base at the Army 00:08:13.939 --> 00:08:17.660 Ranger Camp. And I said, great. And I said, what 00:08:17.660 --> 00:08:19.759 about my Ranger training? And he said, don't 00:08:19.759 --> 00:08:22.839 worry about it. We'll train you there. And I 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:27.899 said, oh, OK. This sounds like a winner. So I 00:08:27.899 --> 00:08:31.060 went to Eglin Air Force Base to the jungle school 00:08:31.060 --> 00:08:35.519 and I was there for two years and running small 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:40.799 boats and doing the training from the Army Rangers 00:08:40.799 --> 00:08:44.799 and going into the back rivers and then coming 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:48.759 in from the Gulf of Mexico for the LCU and LCVP 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:51.740 and the Vandy Crafts and the rubber rafts. But 00:08:51.740 --> 00:08:55.990 I never went to school. I kept asking my first 00:08:55.990 --> 00:08:57.230 sergeant, I said, when are you guys going to 00:08:57.230 --> 00:08:59.330 send me to school? And he says, well, you're 00:08:59.330 --> 00:09:03.009 OJT. And I says, OJT? Yeah, home job training. 00:09:03.190 --> 00:09:07.370 I says, gotcha. I says, but I know that I need 00:09:07.370 --> 00:09:09.070 to go to school. And he says, don't worry about 00:09:09.070 --> 00:09:12.950 it. It's needs of the Army right now. We don't 00:09:12.950 --> 00:09:15.929 have time to send you to school. You're too busy. 00:09:16.190 --> 00:09:18.070 So I wrote a letter to the president of the United 00:09:18.070 --> 00:09:21.929 States at that time, Lyndon Baines Johnson, President 00:09:21.929 --> 00:09:24.649 Johnson. I wrote a letter and I said, you know, 00:09:24.649 --> 00:09:26.450 I've been down here two years, these guys are 00:09:26.450 --> 00:09:32.409 working my butt off, you know, 24 -7, and I need 00:09:32.409 --> 00:09:34.850 to go to school. And they said, well, forget 00:09:34.850 --> 00:09:39.330 it, you know. And I wrote this, President of 00:09:39.330 --> 00:09:40.990 the United States, and I said, you know, I want 00:09:40.990 --> 00:09:43.409 to go to school. The letter came back through 00:09:43.409 --> 00:09:47.789 the channels and the first sergeant called me 00:09:47.789 --> 00:09:51.669 in and he says, hack, no one writes through the 00:09:51.669 --> 00:09:54.700 President of the United States. He said, pack 00:09:54.700 --> 00:10:02.379 your bags, you're going to Newfoundland. I said, 00:10:02.600 --> 00:10:07.220 get out of here. No way. If I went to Newfoundland, 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:10.159 I was up there for six months. From Newfoundland, 00:10:10.500 --> 00:10:17.620 I went to Vietnam and my stepfather had passed 00:10:17.620 --> 00:10:21.320 away. They reassigned me in Louisville, Kentucky. 00:10:21.639 --> 00:10:24.759 at the AFES, Armed Forces Examining Station, 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:27.879 on a compassionate reassignment for a year. And 00:10:27.879 --> 00:10:33.039 then, I went to Vietnam in 1968, during Tet. 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:35.919 During Tet, and you entered off that live cave 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:40.059 right off the bat? I went to Cameron Bay first. 00:10:40.240 --> 00:10:43.639 We flew into Cameron Bay. When we landed in Cameron 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:47.799 Bay, I said, wow, man, this is like Hawaii, you 00:10:47.799 --> 00:10:50.960 know? Everybody was wearing beta suits and shark 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:56.600 shoes and there was no action whatsoever. I thought, 00:10:56.740 --> 00:10:59.980 if this is Vietnam, this is great. The next day 00:10:59.980 --> 00:11:03.419 they told all those guys to stand out and stand 00:11:03.419 --> 00:11:07.840 in formation. We were all lined up. They called 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:10.740 our names out and they called my name out. They 00:11:10.740 --> 00:11:14.120 said, �You're going to the 1st Infantry Division.� 00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:18.580 I said, �Oh boy.� Big red one. And from there 00:11:18.580 --> 00:11:22.580 I went to Zeon, the headquarters, and then from 00:11:22.580 --> 00:11:27.179 headquarters after processing I went to IK. And 00:11:27.179 --> 00:11:30.340 IK is the Michelin rubber plantation. Oh, I didn't 00:11:30.340 --> 00:11:33.100 realize that. Huh? Yeah. It was a Michelin rubber 00:11:33.100 --> 00:11:38.840 plantation and it was a very hot zone. It was 00:11:38.840 --> 00:11:44.080 right in the arm triangle and it was the headquarters 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:48.620 for the first infantry division. Hi, keep a couple 00:11:48.620 --> 00:11:51.179 of those photographs up there. You just showed 00:11:51.179 --> 00:11:54.379 the village itself and now you've got a place 00:11:54.379 --> 00:12:01.480 called the plaza. This is like the shops of America. 00:12:03.740 --> 00:12:08.519 Sort of like a United States shopping plaza. 00:12:08.700 --> 00:12:12.179 Well, not exactly. It was a little primitive 00:12:12.179 --> 00:12:16.080 over there. But you know, I put that site up 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:21.080 on our webpage at USwings .com. I did that several 00:12:21.080 --> 00:12:24.620 years ago to help people and we have received 00:12:24.620 --> 00:12:28.240 such a tremendous positive response from that 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:30.840 because a lot of guys, for one reason or another, 00:12:31.220 --> 00:12:33.179 the pictures that they had, if they had any, 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:38.440 were destroyed. So I put those pictures up. Like 00:12:38.440 --> 00:12:40.659 I said, so guys could look at that and say, oh 00:12:40.659 --> 00:12:42.820 yeah, I can relate to that no matter if they 00:12:42.820 --> 00:12:45.759 were at IK or any other part of Vietnam. A village 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:47.840 looked like a village up there. A village is 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:51.019 a village over there. And Vietnam was extremely 00:12:51.019 --> 00:12:57.399 permanent and it has been a healing process for 00:12:57.399 --> 00:13:00.820 so many guys. And parents too. And parents too. 00:13:00.940 --> 00:13:04.000 Right. We're going to compress your service in 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:05.980 Vietnam. We're going to show a couple of pictures 00:13:05.980 --> 00:13:10.159 of some hoochas. were yours in a couple of hundred 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:12.399 and twenty -two millimeter rocket near misses 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:16.240 and then one that where you got a hit on your 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:19.519 bunker. Tell us what your job was and what about 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:24.860 those rockets. Yeah, when I first went to VIK, 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:30.080 well not exactly. When I first went to Zeon in 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:33.080 processing, of course they had saw that I was 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:36.820 with the 1st Ranger Battalion. They sent me to 00:13:36.820 --> 00:13:40.750 VIK. Hey, as a combat career counselor, and my 00:13:40.750 --> 00:13:43.990 job was going around throughout the whole division, 00:13:44.409 --> 00:13:48.610 flying in, flying out, and different base camps 00:13:48.610 --> 00:13:54.190 counseling guys, as far as what jobs they were 00:13:54.190 --> 00:13:57.250 doing, what job they wanted to do, if they wanted 00:13:57.250 --> 00:13:59.649 to stay in the armed forces, relisting them, 00:14:00.090 --> 00:14:02.870 if they wanted to go to school after they rotated 00:14:02.870 --> 00:14:06.190 back. from Vietnam back to stateside because 00:14:06.190 --> 00:14:10.049 things just didn't stop there. I was the counselor 00:14:10.049 --> 00:14:15.370 for the division headquarters as far as career 00:14:15.370 --> 00:14:20.389 counseling goes. The C .G. Major General Keith 00:14:20.389 --> 00:14:24.809 Ware had heard about me. He was a two -star general 00:14:24.809 --> 00:14:30.350 and a real neat guy, just a nice person. He had 00:14:30.350 --> 00:14:34.009 heard about me. asked me to come down to his 00:14:34.009 --> 00:14:40.409 office at IK and be interviewed for a position, 00:14:40.929 --> 00:14:46.909 and I did. The job was in CLIC a protocol. I 00:14:46.909 --> 00:14:50.750 would take care of all the protocol activities 00:14:50.750 --> 00:14:54.370 that occurred with the 1st Infantry Division. 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:06.879 aid and also being his bodyguard. That was my 00:15:06.879 --> 00:15:14.519 job with the CG about OOG. I was his bodyguard 00:15:14.519 --> 00:15:17.299 for maybe about three and a half months. How 00:15:17.299 --> 00:15:20.000 was it that you were wounded? You were wounded 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:24.539 quite hard. I was wounded twice. The first time 00:15:24.539 --> 00:15:29.179 I was wounded by a 122 millimeter rocket. That 00:15:29.179 --> 00:15:34.289 was at IK. And that was April the 10th, 1968. 00:15:35.169 --> 00:15:38.409 And then the second time I was wounded was Friday 00:15:38.409 --> 00:15:46.110 the 13th, September 1968. And I was on top of 00:15:46.110 --> 00:15:53.129 an armored personnel carrier. And the word for 00:15:53.129 --> 00:15:57.350 that particular vehicle was a track. And we received 00:15:57.350 --> 00:16:02.940 a direct hit. from an RPG round. What's the range 00:16:02.940 --> 00:16:07.799 of an RPG? You know, it's not a great deal. I 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:10.960 would say that 100 yards is really stretching 00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:13.279 it. Really stretching it, yeah. So this is up 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:16.539 close and personal. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't like 00:16:16.539 --> 00:16:21.559 a 122 rocket shot in the general vicinity. He 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:24.379 had something personally against you, did he? 00:16:24.379 --> 00:16:29.820 Yeah. I don't know. I always joked around and 00:16:29.820 --> 00:16:32.220 someone said shut up and I thought they said 00:16:32.220 --> 00:16:38.159 stand up. A lot of those guys fired those things 00:16:38.159 --> 00:16:41.759 from spider holes. They would dig a fox hole 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:44.419 just enough room for them to stand in. We've 00:16:44.419 --> 00:16:46.559 got a half a minute left in this first segment 00:16:46.559 --> 00:16:51.419 believe it or not. You were badly wounded. Do 00:16:51.419 --> 00:16:53.539 you remember anything during the time of your 00:16:53.539 --> 00:16:57.899 wounds? No. No, I was wounded in my leg, my face, 00:16:58.100 --> 00:17:02.240 my back, my shoulder and my chest. I spent a 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:05.400 year in the hospital and then I stayed on medical 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:09.039 hold for five years. Were you unconscious? Yes, 00:17:09.039 --> 00:17:11.779 sir. Okay. We're coming up on a break. You're 00:17:11.779 --> 00:17:17.720 listening to Sarge Hack, who was wounded in Vietnam 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:20.319 and came back and made a very successful life. 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:23.619 Brady was flying Benavac helicopters on his second 00:17:23.619 --> 00:17:26.000 tour in Vietnam when he volunteered to rescue 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:28.359 two badly wounded South Vietnamese soldiers in 00:17:28.359 --> 00:17:31.640 enemy territory. When he arrived, the site was 00:17:31.640 --> 00:17:34.579 shrouded in fog. He descended slowly until he 00:17:34.579 --> 00:17:36.960 saw the tops of trees and then moved sideways 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:40.759 to the landing site. Despite heavy enemy fire, 00:17:41.059 --> 00:17:43.740 he was able to locate the soldiers and evacuated 00:17:43.740 --> 00:17:46.839 them. Brady was called to another fogged -in 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:49.180 area where American casualties lay close to enemy 00:17:49.180 --> 00:17:52.039 lines. He lowered his chopper through the fog 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:54.160 and found a stream bed that led to the wounded. 00:17:54.940 --> 00:17:58.079 In all, he made five flights to rescue 39 GIs. 00:17:58.940 --> 00:18:01.720 On his third mission, the controls on his chopper 00:18:01.720 --> 00:18:04.299 were hit, but he managed to get home. He got 00:18:04.299 --> 00:18:07.240 a replacement chopper and returned. On his fourth 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:09.900 mission, Brady watched a mine explode near the 00:18:09.900 --> 00:18:11.980 landing site, forcing another medevac to leave. 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:14.319 Brady went in and set his chopper in the skid 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:17.109 marks of the other craft. Two crew members were 00:18:17.109 --> 00:18:19.230 carrying a stretcher to the chopper when one 00:18:19.230 --> 00:18:21.930 stepped on a mine. The explosion blew a hole 00:18:21.930 --> 00:18:24.369 in Brady's craft. He managed to get it off the 00:18:24.369 --> 00:18:26.230 ground and delivered the six severely wounded 00:18:26.230 --> 00:18:29.170 men to the aid station. He picked up another 00:18:29.170 --> 00:18:32.609 helicopter and kept flying. In all, he evacuated 00:18:32.609 --> 00:18:36.210 51 men that day. 400 bullet holes were counted 00:18:36.210 --> 00:18:39.289 in the helicopters he flew that day. Brady went 00:18:39.289 --> 00:18:41.750 on to become a major general in the United States 00:18:41.750 --> 00:18:44.690 Army. He was awarded the Medal of Honor by President 00:18:44.690 --> 00:18:48.660 Nixon on October 9, 1969. The Medal of Honor 00:18:48.660 --> 00:19:11.130 series is a production of Veterans Radio. And 00:19:11.130 --> 00:19:13.990 we're back on Veterans Radio talking to Sarge 00:19:13.990 --> 00:19:17.630 Hack. Did you ever know who the medic was that 00:19:17.630 --> 00:19:21.390 treated you? No, I don't. I did meet a medic 00:19:21.390 --> 00:19:25.589 in Vietnam that, you know, I still remember his 00:19:25.589 --> 00:19:29.809 name. His name was Vaughn. And I had gotten bit 00:19:29.809 --> 00:19:33.029 by a blasted or stung by a scorpion. And I went 00:19:33.029 --> 00:19:36.789 over to the tent and I told him what had happened 00:19:36.789 --> 00:19:40.240 and that my leg was starting to swell up. He 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:44.079 said, Sergeant, heck, let's play some trunk. 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:48.920 I said, play trunk? He said, yeah. We put this 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:53.420 five gallon gas can between us as a table. We 00:19:53.420 --> 00:19:57.039 were sitting there playing. I said, okay, Vaughn, 00:19:57.400 --> 00:20:01.359 what's going on? He said, well, it's like this, 00:20:01.640 --> 00:20:05.700 Sarge. Sometimes a guy gets bit by a scorpion 00:20:05.700 --> 00:20:09.740 and dies. Sometimes a guy gets bit by a script 00:20:09.740 --> 00:20:12.400 and he just gets real sick. He says, I just want 00:20:12.400 --> 00:20:14.339 to make sure that you're not going to die on 00:20:14.339 --> 00:20:22.180 me. How old was he? I guess he was probably about 00:20:22.180 --> 00:20:26.180 20, 21 years old. I lost it when he said that. 00:20:28.279 --> 00:20:32.680 Well, this is what I was driving at. Some medic 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:36.960 who was 19, 20, 21 years old worked feverishly 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:40.119 over you to save your life and you don't know 00:20:40.119 --> 00:20:45.460 who he is. I interviewed medics and corpsmen. 00:20:46.500 --> 00:20:49.619 Sometimes there are 19, 20, 21 year old guys 00:20:49.619 --> 00:20:52.339 and he did things that trauma surgeons don't 00:20:52.339 --> 00:20:54.920 do and they did them out in the field saving 00:20:54.920 --> 00:20:58.920 guys lives by stuffing cigarette filters in them 00:20:58.920 --> 00:21:02.460 and putting cigarette wrappers over sucking chest 00:21:02.460 --> 00:21:05.339 wounds and that. You know they get a little, 00:21:05.720 --> 00:21:08.539 they get very emotional at times. Oh yeah? And 00:21:08.539 --> 00:21:10.779 I said to them, I said to a real close friend 00:21:10.779 --> 00:21:13.140 of mine, you know, he was going through hard 00:21:13.140 --> 00:21:16.720 times and I said, Doc, there are young men and 00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:19.299 women all around this country who would like 00:21:19.299 --> 00:21:22.559 to know who you are so they could thank you for 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:26.319 saving their daddy's life. Absolutely. And so 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:29.579 you are a prime example of that. Do you have 00:21:29.579 --> 00:21:33.900 children, do you? I do. Wouldn't they love to 00:21:33.900 --> 00:21:37.579 be able to see that medic and thank him? No doubt 00:21:37.579 --> 00:21:41.640 in my mind. No question about it. The thing about 00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:45.900 it is I woke up and I think it was long been 00:21:45.900 --> 00:21:51.400 because they medevaced me out. I woke up there 00:21:51.400 --> 00:21:54.940 and then from there they transported me to Japan. 00:21:55.119 --> 00:22:02.000 I was at the 106th hospital in Japan. After Japan 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:04.380 they stabilized me and I was there for a couple 00:22:04.380 --> 00:22:11.180 of weeks or so. I woke up in Japan and I heard 00:22:11.180 --> 00:22:17.460 these guys talking in Japanese and it was a TV 00:22:17.460 --> 00:22:21.339 and I opened up my eyes and it was Lloyd Bridges 00:22:21.339 --> 00:22:25.500 and he was talking in Japanese. They were translating 00:22:25.500 --> 00:22:31.839 the TV show. I remember that when I was on the 00:22:31.839 --> 00:22:36.440 Kanawha Nara Nara. That freaked me out. And then 00:22:36.440 --> 00:22:43.980 from there, they sent me to Fort Bragg. And now 00:22:43.980 --> 00:22:48.059 here's something that really, really drove home. 00:22:48.539 --> 00:22:51.180 I'm going to Fort Bragg. My home is Louisville, 00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:53.660 Kentucky. Fort Knox is right outside of Louisville, 00:22:53.660 --> 00:22:56.859 Kentucky. And I'm at Andrews Air Force Base, 00:22:57.380 --> 00:23:00.240 and they're refueling the hospital plane. And 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:03.380 this colonel, he comes aboard the plane, and 00:23:03.380 --> 00:23:05.559 he says, any of you guys have any questions, 00:23:05.700 --> 00:23:08.460 concerns, or problems? And it's a hospital plane. 00:23:08.839 --> 00:23:11.259 And I raised my hand, and the colonel came back 00:23:11.259 --> 00:23:13.980 to me and he says, what's your problem? And I 00:23:13.980 --> 00:23:16.220 says, well, I'm going to Fort Bragg, I'm going 00:23:16.220 --> 00:23:19.160 to be a long -term patient. No question in my 00:23:19.160 --> 00:23:22.660 mind, because I was pretty well tore up. And 00:23:22.660 --> 00:23:24.599 I says, you know, Fort Knox is right outside 00:23:24.599 --> 00:23:26.359 of the way over in Kentucky. That's my home. 00:23:26.539 --> 00:23:30.309 You know, this colonel called. the Pentagon and 00:23:30.309 --> 00:23:39.509 took me off the plane and put me on a plane and 00:23:39.509 --> 00:23:42.650 sent me to Fort Knox, Kentucky. As they are doing 00:23:42.650 --> 00:23:46.029 this, he reaches down and shakes my hand and 00:23:46.029 --> 00:23:49.990 says, �Welcome home.� I tell you what, that to 00:23:49.990 --> 00:23:53.529 me stuck in my mind and will always be there 00:23:53.529 --> 00:23:57.029 for the rest of my life. He says, �Welcome home.� 00:23:58.359 --> 00:24:02.500 The first time I heard that was about 30 years 00:24:02.500 --> 00:24:05.599 later when I finally joined Vietnam Veterans 00:24:05.599 --> 00:24:09.640 of America at my first meeting. I think I know 00:24:09.640 --> 00:24:12.099 who it was but I'm not sure. The guy said to 00:24:12.099 --> 00:24:14.920 me, welcome home and he put a bear hug on me. 00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:18.380 We happened to be standing next to a table and 00:24:18.380 --> 00:24:21.420 I put my left hand on that table and it was that 00:24:21.420 --> 00:24:25.579 and his bear hug that kept me from falling. I 00:24:25.579 --> 00:24:30.420 got so dizzy at hearing those words. Extremely 00:24:30.420 --> 00:24:32.619 emotional. Extremely emotional. Extremely emotional. 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:36.299 And what a meaning because it's all sincere. 00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:39.079 It comes straight from the heart. Right. You 00:24:39.079 --> 00:24:43.240 know, what a feeling, you know. And you know, 00:24:43.299 --> 00:24:46.339 I always remember that. I always carried that 00:24:46.339 --> 00:24:51.259 forward. And it was sincere. And this was in 00:24:51.259 --> 00:24:56.430 1968. This is 2011. I still remember. I still 00:24:56.430 --> 00:24:58.269 remember what the colonel looked like. I still 00:24:58.269 --> 00:25:00.250 remember his words. I still remember everything. 00:25:00.490 --> 00:25:04.049 Everything. And then, as I'm a patient there 00:25:04.049 --> 00:25:07.829 in Fort Knox, at Ireland Army Hospital, all these 00:25:07.829 --> 00:25:12.089 guys, you know, that became a healing process 00:25:12.089 --> 00:25:17.130 for us. Because, you know, we joked around and 00:25:17.130 --> 00:25:23.279 we compared war stories and it helped us. honestly 00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:26.819 helped us to go forward. Then these guys came 00:25:26.819 --> 00:25:31.880 around to my bed and they came from the Department 00:25:31.880 --> 00:25:35.380 of the Army. They said, Sergeant Hack, how would 00:25:35.380 --> 00:25:38.920 you like to be an Army recruiter? I looked at 00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:43.160 them and I said, you guys are crazy. Me, a recruiter? 00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:47.839 There is no way, Jose. I said, get out of here. 00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:52.789 This one colonel, he says, no. We want you to 00:25:52.789 --> 00:25:56.430 become an Army recruiter. From there on out, 00:25:56.430 --> 00:25:58.710 it's all history because I did become an Army 00:25:58.710 --> 00:26:01.890 recruiter. We want to see a picture of your jeep 00:26:01.890 --> 00:26:08.410 up there. If you would put that up, please. Your 00:26:08.410 --> 00:26:12.650 recruiting jeep is enshrined in the museum. At 00:26:12.650 --> 00:26:16.150 Fort Campbell, Kentucky. That's only one of two 00:26:16.150 --> 00:26:20.549 jeeps in there, is it? No, there's one General 00:26:20.549 --> 00:26:23.309 Patton's jeep that's at Fort Knox and my jeep 00:26:23.309 --> 00:26:27.630 is at the Pratt Museum. What had happened, the 00:26:27.630 --> 00:26:31.430 101st Airborne Division came to me and they said, 00:26:31.589 --> 00:26:36.609 you know, heck, we would like for you to recruit 00:26:36.609 --> 00:26:40.569 for the 101st Airborne Division because we need 00:26:40.569 --> 00:26:45.450 men in Vietnam. Bad. I was the number one recruiter 00:26:45.450 --> 00:26:48.029 out of 6 ,000. or maybe recruiters throughout 00:26:48.029 --> 00:26:52.390 the nation. And I said, okay, I'll do the deal 00:26:52.390 --> 00:26:55.890 and I'll put the extra effort in for you. And 00:26:55.890 --> 00:27:00.150 I said, but how about giving me a jeep? And the 00:27:00.150 --> 00:27:02.630 captain said, negotiate a right from the start. 00:27:04.269 --> 00:27:09.650 He says, you know, if we do this deal, it's got 00:27:09.650 --> 00:27:13.769 to be between us. So the captain brought the 00:27:13.769 --> 00:27:16.940 jeep up from Fort Campbell, Kentucky. I met him 00:27:16.940 --> 00:27:19.819 in Columbus, Ohio. They signed the Jeep over 00:27:19.819 --> 00:27:22.559 to me, signed over the books, everything. I took 00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:26.460 the Jeep, took it to Akron, and then I painted 00:27:26.460 --> 00:27:29.559 it. Red, white, and blue, put mag wheels on it, 00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:34.759 wide tires, airborne on the front, airborne on 00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:37.539 the back, a white top, did the whole nine yards 00:27:37.539 --> 00:27:40.299 and really decked it out. And I used that Jeep 00:27:40.299 --> 00:27:44.940 for three years. Newsweek had done a story about 00:27:44.940 --> 00:27:49.000 me. And the commanding general heard about it, 00:27:49.240 --> 00:27:52.079 and he called the command sergeant major in. 00:27:52.259 --> 00:27:55.819 And he says, sergeant major, I would like to 00:27:55.819 --> 00:27:58.680 have a jeep done up just like that. The command 00:27:58.680 --> 00:28:00.859 sergeant major looked at the CG, and he says, 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:03.500 general, I got to tell you something. He says, 00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:07.359 what's that? He says, that's our jeep. And the 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.119 CG says, what? He says, that's our jeep? And 00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:13.079 he says, yes, that is our jeep. So he says, I 00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:21.130 want that jeep down here now. The CG called the 00:28:21.130 --> 00:28:24.710 USARC, US Army Recruiting Command's CG, said, 00:28:24.710 --> 00:28:27.009 �What the blaze is you guys doing with my jeep? 00:28:27.150 --> 00:28:31.990 That's my jeep.� Make the story short, the 101st 00:28:31.990 --> 00:28:36.109 Airborne Division's CG cut the jeep back to Fort 00:28:36.109 --> 00:28:41.309 Campbell. They used it on tours. for the 101st 00:28:41.309 --> 00:28:43.970 and then afterwards they enshrined it into the 00:28:43.970 --> 00:28:47.930 Pratt Museum. That's incredible. We're running 00:28:47.930 --> 00:28:52.630 out of time on this segment too. You had something 00:28:52.630 --> 00:28:54.910 to do with Muhammad Ali when you were recruiting? 00:28:55.589 --> 00:28:59.970 I gave him the test. I gave Cassius Clay the 00:28:59.970 --> 00:29:04.329 armed forces test when I was at APHES in Louisville, 00:29:04.690 --> 00:29:06.849 Kentucky on a compassionate reassignment. We 00:29:06.849 --> 00:29:09.049 got a photograph up there now of you passing 00:29:09.049 --> 00:29:13.089 the word on to Top Sergeant. What was the word 00:29:13.089 --> 00:29:16.589 you were passing on? That there was no way that 00:29:16.589 --> 00:29:21.250 he would ever have been drafted because he flunked 00:29:21.250 --> 00:29:24.410 the test. And there was one of those stories 00:29:24.410 --> 00:29:27.650 behind the story. Yes, sir. There's another photograph 00:29:27.650 --> 00:29:30.829 of you swearing in a kid that volunteered to 00:29:30.829 --> 00:29:34.519 go to Vietnam. Yes. I've got a personal reason 00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:37.380 for asking this. You ever think about these people 00:29:37.380 --> 00:29:40.559 that you recruited and what might have become 00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:46.680 of them? After an awful lot of research of every 00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:49.900 person that I enlisted into the Armed Forces, 00:29:50.420 --> 00:29:56.119 99 .9 % went into the Army and received trades. 00:29:56.339 --> 00:30:00.880 I lost only one applicant and his name was Louis. 00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:04.559 and he was killed in his sleep by a mortar round. 00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:08.440 We're talking to Dave Hack, wired together, going 00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:11.339 strong, successful, and when we get back we're 00:30:11.339 --> 00:30:13.759 going to talk about his business and then a remarkable 00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:16.660 thing that he is doing on his own. We'll be right 00:30:16.660 --> 00:30:19.480 back. And now, back to the interview with Vietnam 00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:22.859 veteran, Sergeant David D. Hack, that was pre 00:30:22.859 --> 00:30:26.660 -recorded March 5th. The reason why I asked, 00:30:26.740 --> 00:30:30.009 why I said I had a personal reason, for asking 00:30:30.009 --> 00:30:33.369 about, did you ever wonder? As Vietnam vets, 00:30:33.509 --> 00:30:36.089 we are invited in to talk to the high schools. 00:30:38.690 --> 00:30:40.690 Some of the teachers tell us that even after 00:30:40.690 --> 00:30:43.329 kids graduate, they ask if they can come back 00:30:43.329 --> 00:30:47.910 when the Vietnam veterans visit the class. I 00:30:47.910 --> 00:30:50.549 think we do a real good job. Then one day in 00:30:50.549 --> 00:30:53.750 the town of Chelsea, Michigan, we got word that 00:30:53.750 --> 00:30:56.410 a young boy had been killed over in Iraq, and 00:30:56.410 --> 00:30:59.700 it haunted me. Did we do anything that caused 00:30:59.700 --> 00:31:02.900 him to enlist? You know, it's a good thing if 00:31:02.900 --> 00:31:05.400 we did, but boy, it's something that weighs on 00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:09.599 me. And you said you actually researched all 00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:13.079 the people that you recruited. Yes, I did. Astounding, 00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:16.539 astounding. And I guess you had, and you know 00:31:16.539 --> 00:31:20.380 how the one died, killed by a mortar. Yes, I 00:31:20.380 --> 00:31:24.079 did. And like I said, the young man's name was 00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:31.740 Louis. I remember him very very well and I researched 00:31:31.740 --> 00:31:35.200 it and he was killed in his sleep. He was with 00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:41.519 the 9th Infantry Division and he was in personnel 00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:44.480 and a mortar round came through the roof and 00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:47.279 I killed him in his sleep. He was a good person 00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:52.519 and the other men that enlisted with him all 00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:56.200 came back home to Ackman, Ohio. The neat thing 00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:01.420 about being a recruiter at that time in my life 00:32:01.420 --> 00:32:08.079 is that I gave it 110 % and I was extremely proud 00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:11.279 to serve my country. I was extremely proud of 00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:14.480 the men that I enlisted and women. Like I said, 00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:18.119 there were over 6 ,000 Army recruiters and I 00:32:18.119 --> 00:32:20.380 was the nation's number one recruiter for four 00:32:20.380 --> 00:32:29.130 straight years. To me, I felt that by giving 00:32:29.130 --> 00:32:32.789 my all for my country and helping other men, 00:32:33.349 --> 00:32:36.210 that was the bottom line. Just plain and simple. 00:32:37.390 --> 00:32:42.410 People misunderstand their true meaning. It really 00:32:42.410 --> 00:32:45.509 isn't what you do for yourself. It's what you 00:32:45.509 --> 00:32:48.670 do for others. That's what counts. It's what 00:32:48.670 --> 00:32:56.319 you do for others. I've read and arrived my 70 00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:59.700 years and by golly that's the way it's going 00:32:59.700 --> 00:33:02.299 to be all the way up until the time that I punch 00:33:02.299 --> 00:33:05.460 out. It's what I can do for others. And we're 00:33:05.460 --> 00:33:07.039 going to have a good example of that. We're going 00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.059 to be talking about it in a minute and we're 00:33:09.059 --> 00:33:10.900 only going to be able to spend about a minute 00:33:10.900 --> 00:33:15.180 on US Wings. Tell us about your business. Our 00:33:15.180 --> 00:33:18.980 business is USwings .com and we were the first 00:33:18.980 --> 00:33:22.559 company to go on the internet. I'm a government 00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:28.500 contractor. I also sell to the civilians. We're 00:33:28.500 --> 00:33:32.940 a bomber jacket manufacturer. We also sell Hawaiian 00:33:32.940 --> 00:33:37.660 shirts, but we do all kinds of neat stuff. There 00:33:37.660 --> 00:33:40.440 again, we help an awful lot of people. We help 00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:44.920 a lot of Vietnam vets, and we reach out and do 00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:47.640 anything and everything that we can for our fellow 00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:51.509 man. And how many hits do you get on your website? 00:33:52.329 --> 00:33:55.210 Over a million a month. A million a month? Over 00:33:55.210 --> 00:33:58.869 a million a month. How do you accomplish that? 00:33:59.690 --> 00:34:11.769 By being on the internet since 1986, 1994 when 00:34:11.769 --> 00:34:16.829 we first really formed our website. by owning 00:34:16.829 --> 00:34:21.170 over 200 URLs and all of those 200 URLs pointing 00:34:21.170 --> 00:34:26.409 to uswings .com and by being so well known and 00:34:26.409 --> 00:34:28.989 so well respected. A lot of people know about 00:34:28.989 --> 00:34:32.329 us. It's astounding. That's how I discovered 00:34:32.329 --> 00:34:36.099 you. I don't remember exactly what I was looking 00:34:36.099 --> 00:34:39.820 for, but I ended up at USwings .com and I saw 00:34:39.820 --> 00:34:41.400 the story on it and I said, I've got to talk 00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:45.059 to this guy. I called him from my mobile phone 00:34:45.059 --> 00:34:47.039 and he was sitting in my car in a parking lot. 00:34:47.619 --> 00:34:51.440 That's where we talked. Well, I'm glad you did. 00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:54.599 If you look on our website, you'll see a picture 00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:57.840 of myself and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs 00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:01.090 of Staff, Admiral Mike Mullen. And if you look 00:35:01.090 --> 00:35:04.050 on our website you'll see me with a picture of 00:35:04.050 --> 00:35:06.929 our General Wagner which is the Lieutenant General 00:35:06.929 --> 00:35:10.190 in charge of Special Forces and the United States 00:35:10.190 --> 00:35:14.409 Army Rangers. That kind of association most certainly 00:35:14.409 --> 00:35:17.550 does not hurt U .S. wings. No. It most certainly 00:35:17.550 --> 00:35:20.510 doesn't. How many of your jackets do you sell? 00:35:21.050 --> 00:35:23.610 Well, tens of thousands because we supply all 00:35:23.610 --> 00:35:26.269 the armed forces. We supply the Coast Guard, 00:35:26.449 --> 00:35:29.250 the Navy, the Marine Corps, the Air Force. We 00:35:29.250 --> 00:35:31.869 also reach out and supply the New Zealand Air 00:35:31.869 --> 00:35:34.269 Force and the Australian Air Force. And we do 00:35:34.269 --> 00:35:39.150 about 99 % of all the aviation movies plus Civil 00:35:39.150 --> 00:35:42.610 Air Patrol. And the list just goes on. And I 00:35:42.610 --> 00:35:44.929 see that we're showing one hand painted Flying 00:35:44.929 --> 00:35:46.909 Tigers on the back of it. You've got somebody 00:35:46.909 --> 00:35:49.329 that actually hand paints them for you. Yes, 00:35:49.349 --> 00:35:53.090 sir. Our Flying Tigers jacket. was worn by Dick 00:35:53.090 --> 00:35:55.690 Ross. He just passed away. Dick was the president 00:35:55.690 --> 00:35:58.750 of Flying Tigers and he and Chanel formed the 00:35:58.750 --> 00:36:01.150 Flying Tigers and that jacket is in the museum 00:36:01.150 --> 00:36:04.389 over in China, in the Flying Tigers Museum. Really? 00:36:06.050 --> 00:36:07.750 All right, now tell us what you're doing for 00:36:07.750 --> 00:36:10.269 the Vets with all your success. Something coming 00:36:10.269 --> 00:36:15.110 up. We have a rally coming up the 21st of May 00:36:15.110 --> 00:36:21.949 and it's the 50th anniversary rally. This is 00:36:21.949 --> 00:36:24.530 Vietnam, sorry. The beginning of the Vietnam 00:36:24.530 --> 00:36:28.869 War. Beginning of Vietnam, 1961. And we're kicking 00:36:28.869 --> 00:36:32.190 it off here in Hudson, Ohio. If you go to our 00:36:32.190 --> 00:36:35.570 website and look under US Wings and then go to 00:36:35.570 --> 00:36:39.250 the Vietnam Rally, it tells all about it. And 00:36:39.250 --> 00:36:41.710 we're extremely excited about it. And like I 00:36:41.710 --> 00:36:46.409 said, it's a kickoff for it. And it's something 00:36:46.409 --> 00:36:50.400 that is totally free. and it's open to the whole 00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:53.679 entire world. Now there's two big reunions that 00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:57.019 take place for Vietnam vets, one in Kokomo, Indiana 00:36:57.019 --> 00:36:59.739 and one in Melbourne, Florida. There might be 00:36:59.739 --> 00:37:01.599 some over on the west coast but I've never heard 00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:08.780 of them, if there are. You pay for camping at 00:37:08.780 --> 00:37:12.659 least at Kokomo and it's 20 acres and it is filled 00:37:12.659 --> 00:37:16.480 up with campsites. You've got 27 acres and you're 00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:19.849 opening it up. Yes, they're free. And vendors. 00:37:20.190 --> 00:37:24.849 Vendors is free. Food. Free. Non -alcoholic beverages. 00:37:25.489 --> 00:37:29.670 Pass on that. We do not drink here. We do not 00:37:29.670 --> 00:37:31.769 smoke here. No, I said non -alcoholic beverages. 00:37:32.369 --> 00:37:38.190 Right. You are supplying beverages? We are. Yep. 00:37:38.530 --> 00:37:42.349 Free. Free. I asked you how long can somebody 00:37:42.349 --> 00:37:44.789 stay camped there because a lot of people will 00:37:44.789 --> 00:37:47.409 come in and set up camps. It looks like the Crusades 00:37:47.409 --> 00:37:49.889 with all the flags flying. They can stay here 00:37:49.889 --> 00:37:53.250 a week. One week. So get there early, camp out, 00:37:53.590 --> 00:37:56.210 be with your brothers and your sisters. You betcha. 00:37:56.489 --> 00:38:01.670 What a time. What a time. It's easy to find your 00:38:01.670 --> 00:38:03.989 place. It's extremely easy because we're right 00:38:03.989 --> 00:38:07.920 on the Ohio Turnpike. There's a map there. between 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:11.239 Ackland, Ohio and Cleveland. You can come in 00:38:11.239 --> 00:38:14.239 from Michigan straight on the Turnpike. You can 00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:16.539 come in from New York straight on the Turnpike. 00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:19.860 Or you can fly in at the Cleveland Hopkins Airport. 00:38:20.219 --> 00:38:23.860 Or you can fly in at the Ackland Canton. And 00:38:23.860 --> 00:38:26.760 we even have a private airport here over at Kent 00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:31.119 State. and that will accommodate jets. So it's 00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:33.820 going to be easy for anybody to get to. You are 00:38:33.820 --> 00:38:37.179 well positioned and I have never heard of anybody 00:38:37.179 --> 00:38:41.000 doing this and flipping the whole bill. We are 00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:43.960 definitely flipping the whole entire bill. Alright, 00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:46.739 we got about 30 seconds left for you. Is there 00:38:46.739 --> 00:38:49.179 anything that you wanted to say that we didn't 00:38:49.179 --> 00:38:52.119 cover, Sarge? I'd like to say something to all 00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:55.199 the veterans, no matter what branch of service, 00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:59.380 no matter what conflict or war, welcome home. 00:39:01.500 --> 00:39:03.760 Well, thank you very much, Gary, and thank you 00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:07.400 very much, Sarge. So, we've just got a few minutes 00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:10.019 left before the conclusion of our program today, 00:39:10.019 --> 00:39:14.119 and on the line with me is my partner, Mr. Gary 00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:16.260 Lilly. Gary, how are you doing this morning? 00:39:16.699 --> 00:39:18.739 I'm doing great. It's great to be a partner in 00:39:18.739 --> 00:39:21.500 Veterans Radio with Bob Gould and Dale Thornberry. 00:39:23.289 --> 00:39:25.610 I just got pumped up listening to you talking 00:39:25.610 --> 00:39:29.530 to Bob Crudy this morning and to relisting to 00:39:29.530 --> 00:39:33.449 that interview. Sarge Heck is an amazing person. 00:39:33.449 --> 00:39:36.769 What an amazing, exactly, Mike. And he's even 00:39:36.769 --> 00:39:40.989 nicer than he sounds in the interview when you're 00:39:40.989 --> 00:39:43.690 with him in person. Well, I could imagine if 00:39:43.690 --> 00:39:46.210 you were a youngster and you're sitting across 00:39:46.210 --> 00:39:49.190 the table from thinking about going in the Army 00:39:49.190 --> 00:39:52.210 and what his demeanor must have been. You know, 00:39:52.590 --> 00:39:56.849 a sergeant's a sergeant, so when he was a sergeant, 00:39:56.849 --> 00:39:59.469 I'm sure that he had command of things, but I 00:39:59.469 --> 00:40:01.650 don't think he was the kind of a sergeant that 00:40:01.650 --> 00:40:08.610 was brutal. You and I have both met both sides 00:40:08.610 --> 00:40:13.750 of the E -4, E -5, E -6 ranks, but I got a feeling 00:40:13.750 --> 00:40:19.980 that he was a fair but firm person. That reunion, 00:40:20.059 --> 00:40:22.900 I've been to the Kokomo reunion a number of times 00:40:22.900 --> 00:40:25.940 and I've not been to Melbourne. I've always wanted 00:40:25.940 --> 00:40:30.360 to go there. What they're talking about is a 00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:34.340 Kokomo or a Melbourne style reunion. They call 00:40:34.340 --> 00:40:37.960 it a rally and for all of you people that have 00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:43.260 been to one, here's one for the beginning of 00:40:43.260 --> 00:40:47.179 summer. It's just a great opportunity for brotherhood, 00:40:47.539 --> 00:40:50.500 sisterhood. Take the families, the camping. What 00:40:50.500 --> 00:40:53.960 I love the most about the Kokomo is just wandering 00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:58.139 through the campsites. All those fires going 00:40:58.139 --> 00:41:01.780 and I'll never forget one 82nd Airborne group 00:41:01.780 --> 00:41:08.099 had a great big huge cast iron pot of beans and 00:41:08.099 --> 00:41:10.099 I don't know if it was bean soup or beans but 00:41:10.099 --> 00:41:12.420 it was you know kind of a spin the train and 00:41:12.420 --> 00:41:15.599 invite anybody passing by that looked at them 00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:19.099 you know. Lots of beans gone over. So I sat down, 00:41:19.139 --> 00:41:21.079 and I got some beans from them, and sat down, 00:41:21.099 --> 00:41:24.199 and we chatted about the 82nd Airborne stuff, 00:41:24.260 --> 00:41:27.440 and they asked me about CB stuff. And then after 00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:29.940 a while, I wandered on, and, geez, there was 00:41:29.940 --> 00:41:32.619 Native American groups there. There were, you 00:41:32.619 --> 00:41:37.380 know, every unit, it seems, has a group reunion, 00:41:37.539 --> 00:41:39.619 the dusters, you know, those are those twin 40 00:41:39.619 --> 00:41:47.650 millimeter self -propelled guns. Quad 50s, 101st 00:41:47.650 --> 00:41:52.530 Airborne, Big Red Blond. Gary, it sounds exciting 00:41:52.530 --> 00:41:55.070 and we've only got 12 seconds so I'm going to 00:41:55.070 --> 00:41:56.909 have to cut you loose and I'm going to go to 00:41:56.909 --> 00:42:00.489 the coffee shop. So Gary, take care. You're all 00:42:00.489 --> 00:42:02.909 listening to Veterans Radio. We'll be back next 00:42:02.909 --> 00:42:19.590 week. You are dismissed. All views and opinions 00:42:19.590 --> 00:42:22.750 expressed on this program are not necessarily 00:42:22.750 --> 00:42:26.469 of Veterans Radio or this station. Veterans Radio 00:42:26.469 --> 00:42:48.030 is a production of Veterans Radio Network. your 00:42:48.030 --> 00:42:51.250 particular case. 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