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All across America and around the world, this is Veterans Radio.

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And now your host for today's program, Dale Throneberry.

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Hey, welcome to Veterans Radio.

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My name is Dale Throneberry.

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I was a CW-2 helicopter pilot in Vietnam, 1969.

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I want to welcome you to our monthly benefits program,

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is what's going on today.

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And so our guests are going to include our usual cast of characters,

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Caroline Fausson, retired Air Force Brigadier General,

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with legal help for veterans.

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I've got David Simms on the line.

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David is the Executive Director of the Washtenaw County

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Michigan Veterans Service Office.

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We've also got Brian Hayes, who is the Ann Arbor Hospital,

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Ann Arbor Health Care's Communication Director.

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And we're also going to be talking with a new person today,

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who I got some information from just this week,

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about an organization out in California called We Are Vets

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Limited.

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And what they do is they provide food for homeless veterans

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that are, evidently, there's a lot of issues going on

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with the West Los Angeles Veterans VA Hospital out there.

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But we're not going to get into that too much.

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We are going to find out what Kimberly has to say about that,

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as Kimberly Berger, who's their Executive Director.

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Before we get into that, though, I

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got to thank our sponsors.

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Is everybody out there?

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Well, maybe you don't know by now,

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but hopefully you do.

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Is Veterans Radio is a nonprofit 501C3 corporation.

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And so we don't really have sponsors.

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We have donors and supporters.

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And so the number one supporter of Veterans Radio

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for at least 20 of our 23 years is Legal Help for Veterans.

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And Legal Help for Veterans specializes

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in veterans disability claims.

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I want you to give you need help.

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or go to their website, legalhelpforveterans.com.

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And we're all entrepreneurs, right?

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And then the Erwin Prescor and American Legion Post 46

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and the Charles S. Kettle's Vietnam Veterans of America

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Chapter 310, both of Ann Arbor, Michigan.

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Thank you in advance.

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Now, into the action here today.

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So joining me on the line right now is Kimberly Berger.

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Kimberly is the founder of We Are Veterans,

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We Are Vets, excuse me.

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And Kimberly, welcome to Veterans Radio.

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Thank you for having us.

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So I was really interested when I got this email from you

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folks talking about what you're doing out there.

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So I guess I should ask you to tell our audience,

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what are we vets doing out in West Los Angeles?

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Well, we are vets.

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There's approximately between 100 and 200 homeless vets

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that live in temporary shelters there.

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We go the last Sunday of every month,

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and we provide them with a lunch.

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We also provide blankets, jackets, shoes, socks, backpacks.

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Every month, we give them a new toiletry bag.

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So it has shampoo, body wash, razors, deodorant, body wipes.

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Because those are things they're not provided.

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And a lot of them do not have transportation.

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So it's hard for them to get off the facility base there.

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So we go in, and after I get down with you,

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I found a specific sized pair of tennis shoes

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that a gentleman up there that has very large feet.

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We found a pair of tennis shoes for them.

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So after I hang up with you, we're

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going to drive up there real quick and drop them off for him.

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But that's pretty much what we do.

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Anything that they need, we try to help them with.

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I'm currently trying to become a certified agent

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so I can actually help physically help them with paperwork

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or trying to help them find a VSO or pretty much anything

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they need, we try to help them get.

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Where is the West Los Angeles VA?

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It's not up in any of that fire country, is it?

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No, they were at the base of the fire.

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So I want to say the first week into the fires,

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they were evacuated for about five days.

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They came in with buses at like 1 o'clock in the morning

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because the fire had gone up over the hill.

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And we went, we didn't know that they'd been evacuated yet.

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We went up there, me and my husband, James,

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who is my founding partner with We Are Vets, who

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is a veteran, and there is probably

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about a good inch of ash just everywhere it was awful.

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facility for about five days.

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And then they were able to come back.

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So they were close, but.

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Yeah, I mean, obviously that's all frightening.

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is that there have to be, that they're out there

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in these temporary shelters.

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I didn't realize that that was even an option at the VA.

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I guess we're kind of, we're very fortunate, I think,

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in our VA here in Ann Arbor not to have that situation.

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What can we do to help you?

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Well, we're always needing funding for the lunches.

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Oh, sorry, there's my phone.

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Lunches that we do take up.

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And the biggest thing that we're having problems with

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are funding for shoes and underwear.

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We reach out to, we have quite a few corporate sponsors,

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which is great, like Starbucks, Outback Steakhouse,

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Texas Roadhouse, Smart & Final.

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So they help us occasionally with items.

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I did try to, we were trying to get a Fruit Loom sponsorship,

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but I guess we didn't fall in their wheelhouse of donations.

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So a lot of that has to do with the time of the year

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and all this other stuff.

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I mean, so we're really brand new.

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We're trying to get into some of the social workers

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that are there.

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We're trying to get into a lot of the different offices

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down there to see what we can really do to help.

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But the biggest problem now is funding for things

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like underwear, underwear and socks.

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Well, maybe another great resource.

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What you're doing, my hat's off to you.

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You're basically doing in our area, we've had stand downs.

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But the stand downs occur like maybe once a year

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where the veterans will come get a haircut,

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get their lab work done, handing out the clothes,

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and all of that, a good maybe place to also go in contact

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is Walmart.

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Walmart has been spectacular in our area

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to donate the underwear, the socks, the t-shirts,

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and a lot of that.

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We've had to sign in and indicate where it's going.

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But you're doing this every month reaching out.

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That is huge.

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I'm sure your supply goes very quickly.

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It does.

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So just last Sunday, it rains once or twice

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And of course, that fell on our Sunday.

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So some people were like, are you still going up there?

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there's been too many people who have let them down.

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I tell them I'm going to be there the last Sunday of the month

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and I'm going to be there.

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We were soaking wet and freezing.

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And some of the guys were like, you know what?

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If it rains next time you're supposed to come,

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just come the next Sunday because they just

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saw how miserable we were.

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For the most part, there's a handful of regulars,

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but a lot of them are rotating rapidly.

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we give out, like I said, the toiletry bags.

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rotating.

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So it's funding is a big deal.

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And we have a separate, a third party

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who does our donation, our funding donations.

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They keep track of everything for us

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and then they send us when we need it.

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So it's nice.

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There's some people I know who I'm

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sure are uncomfortable with sending money to,

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even though we are a 501C3, I think

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there's just been too many scam type situations.

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They're not comfortable.

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So another one of my friends who has another homeless,

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just regular homeless, not, you know, we focus on the vets.

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She told me to make an Amazon wish list.

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So we did that.

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So that's really neat.

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And on our website, it points to all these different places

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that people can go.

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But I will check into that Walmart.

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That's not why I'm trying.

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I think the other thing I would look at what we do around here

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is our local VVA chapter.

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We buy, we purchase, I don't know, how many, $1,500 or more

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of underwear and socks and so forth.

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And then we go up and distribute it at the VVA.

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But I think you're working with a homeless group.

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I think I would go to your veteran service organizations

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that you've got around there, especially the VVA.

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The VVA ones because they're older.

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What is that?

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Vietnam Veterans of America.

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Vietnam Veterans of America.

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The Veterans of Foreign Wars, the American Legion.

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Oh, we've had VFWs and American legions have been really helpful

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in donating funds.

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Yeah, sometimes they'll donate money.

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Sometimes they'll donate the actual,

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we just recently had a sock drive at one of our chapter

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meetings and the guy picked up, I don't know, 400 pair of socks.

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Well, last Monday, the VFW and Lama Rata,

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they came out and set up a flat top grill

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and cooked over 200 hamburgers.

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And they supplied everything.

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So that was great.

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So Kimberly, another idea.

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I love what Dale said.

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But on top of that umbrella of the VSOs,

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I'm very well aware of this, is the Department of Veterans

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Affairs.

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And California has an outstanding one.

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And it's called the Trust Fund.

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And in Michigan, we're approximately, I think, 54 million

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or maybe 58, I heard recently.

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And veterans are able to go to that.

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As you as an organization with the Trust Fund,

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if you go to them, they might be able to supply,

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as they do the county counselors and some of the VSOs

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in places.

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If you're established, you might get something

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because homeless is one of the critical areas

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that the VA is looking at across the country.

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And I would associate and go and call the VAs that

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are near you, the VA medical centers.

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You mentioned Loma Linda because there

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is a homeless coordinator.

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And that coordinator, combined with you,

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might be able to link some of those funds

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and the availability from the state.

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That's great.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, see, there's so much I'm learning as we go.

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To be honest, I was up there with a friend of mine

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who is running for a state assembly.

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And he's a Vietnam vet.

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And he's like, you want to come up there with me?

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I'm like, sure.

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Because I'd never heard of what was going on.

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And I'm a huge animal lover.

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And I ran into a service dog that I absolutely adore.

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His name is Tank.

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And my original thing was, let's get some free dog food

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for the vet service dogs.

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And that's literally how they started.

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And then my husband's like, OK, but what about the vets?

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And I'm like, oh, yeah, huh?

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But my thing was, that's one less thing for them

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to have to worry about.

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So we were getting free dog food from a local mom and pop

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place.

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And me and my husband would sit down and make sandwiches.

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Oh, tons of sandwiches.

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Our first one was 50 sandwiches.

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And now we're anywhere from 100 and 150.

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So that's, I mean, it's anything I have are actually

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my dog groomer comes up there, average once a quarter,

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and she services the service dogs.

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She does their nails, their ears, other weird animal things.

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So it's helping them with less things to worry about.

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Well, Kimberly, what can our listeners do?

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How can we get money to you?

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Or how can we get sources?

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Where do we go?

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Well, you can go to our website, which is we are vetsltd.com.

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We take donations through a site that's called GiveButter.

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And all that information is on the website.

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You can also go to our Amazon Wishlist.

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And we spend about $800 a month out of our pocket

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to buy all of the toiletry essentials.

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We don't want to have it all come out of your pocket.

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We want to see if we can get some other people to donate

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to your organization, because you've got a great idea going

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here.

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That's the goal.

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Now, so many of us, of us non-profit people out there,

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start off with everything coming out of our pocket

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until we can get people to be aware of what we're doing.

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Yes.

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And luckily, we do have a local church

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helps us with blanket drives.

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We've had a lot of good luck with the blanket drives.

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My friend who runs, it's called Lily's Legacy.

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She literally loads up her vehicle

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and drives downtown Long Beach and just feeds people

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out of the back of her vehicle.

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Gives them backpacks full of toiletry and everything.

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So we all are kind of helping each other with that.

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But thank you for some of those ideas.

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OK.

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You can stay on the line, but I'm going to let you go,

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because I've got a call coming in.

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I don't know if it refers to you or not.

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So coming on our line here on Veterans Radio

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is Wade from Ipsilanti, Michigan.

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Wade, what's your question?

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Well, you know, a few years back, well,

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I would say probably about maybe seven years back,

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they used to have a distribution, a drop-off place

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at Ann Arbor VA.

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And they actually had a laundry room,

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and everything set up there.

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They would sort the clothes, and then they

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would distribute them out to veterans that need them.

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Being a veteran myself, I thought it was a great thing.

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And I donated a lot of clothes there over the years.

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I was just wondering, what happened with that?

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Do you know?

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I personally know.

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Brian, Brian Ayes is here from the Ann Arbor VA.

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Brian, do you know anything about that program?

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No, I've been with Ann Arbor about 13 years.

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I've never seen that program.

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OK.

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There are other ways of providing those things for folks now

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rather than providing a laundry room and stuff like that.

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But yeah, I don't think that's been there for quite a while.

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OK.

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Well, yeah, because it was, I believe it

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was up on the second floor.

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They had washers and dryers, and they

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would take the clothes in and sort them and wash them.

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And then, of course, they would distribute them out

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to veterans that needed those things.

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Well, probably like so many of the other things

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that goes on in some government agencies,

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they've outsourced it.

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It's somewhere else.

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Well, to an organization.

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Yeah, I heard that.

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And believe there's something.

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That's probably right.

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Something to some other organization.

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Wade, thank you so much for giving us a call.

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I appreciate that.

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Well, thank you.

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And thanks for listening, too.

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All right.

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So actually, why don't we go to Brian?

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Let me preface this a little bit, Brian.

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So many changes over the last week or two weeks

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that we know that there are many things that you can address

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as far as what's going on at the VA

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or what may go on at the VA in the coming weeks.

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But I know that you had a couple of things

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you did want to talk about.

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So you get to go first.

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Well, Dale, the one thing I can say about that

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is our operational posture will remain the same.

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And we will continue to care for veterans,

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just as we always have with the world-class health care

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that you get out of the Ann Arbor VA system.

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So that's something that our veterans don't have to worry

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about.

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So don't use up too many brain cells,

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worrying about those kinds of things.

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We'll continue providing great health care.

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Main thing I wanted to go over today

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was our program to get folks registered on the new login

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procedures for your government websites.

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It's not just VA.

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It really just kind of goes across all government websites,

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whether it's VA or Social Security

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or whatever you're talking about.

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But specifically for VA, we really

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want to get folks set up with the two types of ways

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to get logged into My HealtheVet.

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And that is login.gov and IDME.

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I want to get those accounts set up

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so that folks can continue to access their My HealtheVet

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account.

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Reason being, VA has used four different account sign-in

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options over the years.

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It just sort of, you know how sometimes it goes,

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things just kind of grow for no reason.

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We had IDME, My HealtheVet had its own login, DS login,

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all those things.

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So now we're transitioning down to just two

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to try to simplify things.

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That's because for many, many years,

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our veterans have asked VA to simplify the sign-in

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experience.

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It hasn't been easy.

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So both login.gov and IDME will be

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able to help VA meet those requirements

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and meet the needs of the veterans.

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So millions and millions of veterans

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have already transitioned their sign-in accounts

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to login.gov and IDME.

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We understand, though, that the change is difficult for some folks.

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But what we've done, we started yesterday

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as we had an open house at the medical center

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in Ann Arbor yesterday.

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I think we had several hundred people show up yesterday.

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It really blew us away.

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I was very happy to see it because they're like, oh,

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they do read our emails.

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But they showed up and they were getting all of their logins

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transitioned and all of that.

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That's really good.

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But we still have about 16,000, a little less than 16,000

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veterans just in our health care system.

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I'm not talking about the whole country.

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I'm just talking about an Ann Arbor health care system

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that need to get that transition done.

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So we're going to be continuing doing those open houses.

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As a matter of fact, we've got one coming up in Toledo

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next Friday.

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So that'll be something to keep an eye out for.

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There'll be an email coming out about that as well.

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If you're in our catchment area, I

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won't go into the details right now

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because we have people from all over the country listening.

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But we'll be getting an email out early this week

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for the veterans in our catchment, especially

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to go down to Toledo in that area and get their login changed.

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So that's really the big push for me right now.

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We want to be able to get those logins changed

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because that current login that you

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used to get into my healthy vet, that's

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going to expire after March 4.

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Right.

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I did hear that.

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I guess I must have gotten your email

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because I saw that something was expanded or not expanded.

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Postponed a little bit that they were going to cut off

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was going to be because I thought the cutoff was going

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to be in February.

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But I guess we had to bump it, right?

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Because there's a lack of response.

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So we had to bump it another month.

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And so March 4 is going to be the cutoff.

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Now folks will still be able to get there,

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go into my healthy vet.

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My healthy vet's not going anywhere.

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But you're going to have to change the way you sign in

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to my healthy vet.

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OK.

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I just wanted to push that today, Dale.

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And I appreciate having the, using your airwaves to do it.

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Well, it's always a pleasure to have you on, Brian.

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I can't wait to talk to you in the next couple of months

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to see what actually is going to happen.

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To see what happens.

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Well, whatever it is going to happen.

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I did notice that, and you don't have to comment on this.

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I'll just do this on my own, is that all the,

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there was stopping, you know, the funding thing

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and all that came out last week.

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The VA has sent out a press release on that,

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that it doesn't affect anybody, any of our benefits,

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or any of our beneficiaries.

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Everybody's still going to get their disability money

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and everything along those lines.

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So don't worry about that.

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I think it's going to be more of an internal,

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internal types of changes.

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But I don't think it's going to affect anybody's.

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That's right.

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Yeah, we're, like I said, you know,

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we're just going to continue to provide world-class health

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care and benefits and services to our veterans.

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The changes that you're reading about and hearing about,

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it's all backstage stuff.

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Yeah, I totally agree.

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Well, Brian, thank you very much for dropping in

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and helping us out.

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And I look forward to talking to you at the end

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of the beginning of next month.

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Yeah, see you in March.

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Take care.

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All right, thanks, Brian, very much.

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As Brian Hayes, who's the Public Affairs Officer here

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for the Ann Arbor, Charles S. Kettles,

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the VA Medical Center, is a good guy who always keeps us

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up to date with what's going on as best that he can.

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So I wanted to bring on our other two experts here.

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You've already heard the voice of Caroline Fausson

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with her suggestions.

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And also, we've got David Sames.

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And David, as I mentioned before,

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is the Executive Director of the Washtenaw County, Michigan

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Veterans Service Office.

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So, David, hey, welcome back.

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Thanks a lot, Dale.

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Everything is busy here in the Washtenaw Ann Arbor area.

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One thing I was going to touch upon

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is school-aged children.

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One thing that a lot of vets forget is,

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well, or forget, or don't read the award letter,

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or letter comes in, and maybe they change their address,

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is if they have a student that is still

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in high school.

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Lately, they've been turning 18 while they're in high school.

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So you want to make sure that you fill out

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00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:55,280
that school-aged child form, and that's a VA form, 21674,

520
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,360
to notify the VA, hey, listen, they're still in school.

521
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They graduate this.

522
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,960
Now, if they're not at 100%, and then their kid goes

523
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,680
to a post-is college, university, you can still get paid

524
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,280
for them until they get out of that.

525
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,200
So that's one thing I wanted to bring up,

526
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,680
because we had that this last couple of months.

527
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,720
Now I understand it.

528
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:17,280
All right.

529
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,880
Yeah, because if you're the right man if I'm wrong here,

530
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,240
so if I'm getting disability payments

531
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:29,920
and claiming a dependent, a child, once they turn 18,

532
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,360
they would normally be dropped off

533
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:34,000
unless they continue on into school, correctly?

534
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:34,880
That's correct.

535
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,320
And it's only for veterans that are receiving compensation

536
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,160
at 30% or higher.

537
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,200
But there's a lot that I've been running into

538
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,320
that they forgot to send in the form

539
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:52,000
or didn't read the letter fully, and then their payment dropped,

540
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,920
and they call and say, why did my payment drop?

541
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,760
So that's why I just wanted to push that a little bit today.

542
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,480
Well, I think that is, obviously, that's really important.

543
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,640
And also, isn't there a benefit for 100%

544
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,880
disabled veteran as far as college funding is concerned?

545
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:09,200
Yeah.

546
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,760
So that when they're 100% permanent total or IU,

547
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,640
they'll get their dependence can get Chapter 35 benefits.

548
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,880
And that is a stipend per month to go to school.

549
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,560
So they have a full time, three quarter, half time.

550
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:32,400
So that's only for 100% permanent total and TDIU.

551
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,520
All the rest, the vet can get paid a little extra.

552
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,760
It's not much, but it's something.

553
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:38,720
Right.

554
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:39,200
Yeah.

555
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:44,480
But that school benefit, I think, is really awesome.

556
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,840
Is it a certain amount, or is it based on where you're going

557
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,200
to school?

558
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,920
It's a certain amount.

559
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,920
And you can check that on the VA website.

560
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,000
It changes just like the cost of living.

561
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,160
Right.

562
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:03,040
But yeah, it's a monthly payment that they're receiving

563
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,200
why they're in school.

564
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:10,800
And then, State of Michigan has one for 100% permanent total

565
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,120
and IU.

566
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:14,960
And I believe that's $1,800 a month.

567
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,520
So you can get that if you're in Michigan

568
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,760
and you go to a state school.

569
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,440
There's like 35, 40 different ones.

570
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,320
And they listed on their award letter

571
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:29,040
where they can apply to the State of Michigan

572
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:34,040
if their father or mother has 100% permanent total or IU.

573
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,160
And then they can get that up to four years.

574
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,640
That's awesome.

575
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:43,440
I was thinking I have a nephew and a niece whose dad was

576
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:48,200
100% disabled, 100% can't work and all that other stuff.

577
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,520
And they got full rides through four years of college, which

578
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:53,960
is a really nice deal.

579
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,880
And I think people hopefully all of our listeners out there

580
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,840
or anybody that they know that is 100% disabled

581
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,800
knows that if you have school-aged children,

582
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,480
take advantage of that.

583
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:12,240
Kailan, as usual, it's good to see you again and talk to you.

584
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,080
So what's going on in the world of legal help

585
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,480
that we might be aware of?

586
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,120
I love what David just brought up about the children.

587
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,120
That also goes with if you get married

588
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,440
and you have a spouse, you could add the spouse

589
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,200
once it's 30% or greater.

590
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:34,200
If the spouse dies or if you get a divorce,

591
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:39,360
you've got to notify your representative or at least

592
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,160
the VA because that money will still come in.

593
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,400
And then you might have to pay it.

594
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,360
Not might.

595
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,840
You're going to have to pay it back at some time

596
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,520
that you might not realize.

597
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:57,640
So please ask questions and raise the issues once you're

598
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,200
30% or greater.

599
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,920
I ran into somebody who was teaching some classes in Florida

600
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,440
and a veteran.

601
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,400
And it's hard for me to believe this still happens.

602
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,560
But that's why we're doing this benefit show.

603
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,000
Because I have somebody that was my class that was 70%.

604
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,400
And when I talked about this, he said,

605
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,360
what's this dependency thing?

606
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,040
I've been married to her for 30 years

607
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,880
and nobody has told me about that.

608
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:31,640
So we got him enrolled.

609
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:32,600
We added that.

610
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,120
And then some of his conditions have changed.

611
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,440
And so we're able to help him maybe elevate the 70

612
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,680
to something else.

613
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:46,120
But we definitely added his wife as a dependent.

614
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,120
So you know all these nuances.

615
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,160
There's so much going on.

616
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,800
And last month, when we had the both directors

617
00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,120
from the Ann Arbor VA, Lieutenant Colonel Charles S.

618
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,600
Kettles, and then the Detroit, the John Dingle,

619
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,200
that was so great to have the two directors there.

620
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,160
And they talked about the issues that were going on.

621
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,520
And Dr. Kreisman from Ann Arbor brought up

622
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,240
the Elizabeth Dole Act.

623
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,120
And I think this is going to be great,

624
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,800
which they're pushing for the home care and the community

625
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:25,640
care.

626
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,960
And then also making our veterans aware,

627
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,520
we do this all the time.

628
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:35,160
If you're going for an exam and it's not a good exam,

629
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,200
you need to notify either County Counsel or your VSO,

630
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,560
notify us at Legal Health for Veterans.

631
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,160
Because there's the issue if you go in

632
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,840
and it's not what the specialist who you're supposed to be,

633
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,080
the contracted company gets paid.

634
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,000
And then you get denied your benefit

635
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,440
because it wasn't done properly.

636
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,800
And this is a big waste of time.

637
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,400
It's a waste of resources.

638
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:07,120
And so please let us know if that happens.

639
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,840
We've got several of our veterans that call us and say,

640
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,880
I don't know why I drove two hours.

641
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,320
My appointment, they told me was changed.

642
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,080
I have all my paperwork.

643
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,840
Or you get an exam where maybe you take one blood pressure

644
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,200
and you're out the door and you've driven two hours.

645
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,560
So please, please ask the questions.

646
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:34,400
I think that's speaking from personal experience.

647
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,600
We know how that goes.

648
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,160
You drive two hours and you take your blood pressure

649
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,080
and you walk out again.

650
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,560
But this is across the country.

651
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,440
We don't want to let any people, but you know it.

652
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,480
If you do run into having an exam done by a third party out

653
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,680
there and you don't feel like it was a worthwhile exam,

654
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,280
to contact a person that's helping you with your claim

655
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,960
and have it rescheduled or get it closer.

656
00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:02,080
Hopefully, maybe they can help you out

657
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:08,600
by reviewing whatever the results of that so-called exam was.

658
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,520
And that's something that is really important for you,

659
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,600
the veteran, to do.

660
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,160
And the thing is that you have to take ownership of your claim.

661
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,800
This is speaking from the veteran side.

662
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,600
My side is that we have to take responsibility for helping

663
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,160
our VSOs find all the information that we can,

664
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,880
leading to whatever condition we might have.

665
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,640
Because if we're not proactive in it

666
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,120
and we just write off those appointments

667
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,720
and we don't go just because we don't want to go,

668
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,560
that claim's going to die.

669
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:49,360
And you have earned whatever funding

670
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,760
might be entitled to because of your service

671
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,480
and you don't want to waste it by not following through.

672
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,320
So really do work with your VSO person.

673
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,120
I really strongly suggest that you

674
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,120
do use a third party to help you with your claims.

675
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,040
Don't do it directly, mainly because I

676
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,840
don't know how technologically challenged you are.

677
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,080
But sometimes it can become a little overwhelming

678
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,280
and you'll just get frustrated and just walk away from it.

679
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,880
You're walking away from support and you're

680
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,560
walking away from money and all kinds of different things

681
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,760
that the VA can provide to you.

682
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,720
So make sure that you stay on track with that.

683
00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:33,560
We need to take a real quick break.

684
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,320
And when we come back after our Medal of Honor segment,

685
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,160
we'll get into talking about maybe some things that

686
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,200
are going on on the disability side of the Veterans

687
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,800
Administration.

688
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,360
So you're listening to Veterans Radio.

689
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,680
We'll be right back.

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The Medal of Honor is the highest award

691
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,600
for valor in combat given a member of the Armed

692
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,360
Forces of the United States.

693
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,960
There have been over 3,400 recipients

694
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,080
of the nation's highest award.

695
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,640
This is one of them.

696
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,600
Staff Sergeant Drew Dix was working on a CIA project

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00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,440
near Cambodia when the Tet Offensive began.

698
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,960
Details after this.

699
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,400
If you have a VA claim denied by the Board of Veterans

700
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:17,040
Appeals, contact Legal Help for Veterans at 1-800-693-4800.

701
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,400
They're experts in handling cases before the US Court

702
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,080
of Appeals for Veterans Claims.

703
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,120
Their number again, 1-800-693-4800.

704
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,640
Dix's mission was to coordinate intelligence gathering

705
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,360
with a unit made up mainly of indigenous Vietnamese,

706
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,200
Cambodians, and Chinese nungs.

707
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,160
In late January, Dix and his men were operating with part

708
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,560
of a SEAL platoon to get information about a rumored

709
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,600
Viet Cong offensive.

710
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,760
On January 31st, Dix's unit returned to base

711
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,880
to find the Tet Offensive had begun

712
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,200
and the city had been overrun.

713
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,000
When they tried to land, they encountered heavy fire.

714
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,880
One SEAL was killed, the others pulled out,

715
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,360
leaving Dix with only a handful of indigenous soldiers.

716
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,160
He moved through the city picking up pockets

717
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,920
of friendly soldiers.

718
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:03,080
His first mission was to rescue an American nurse.

719
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,400
Then he brought several CIA employees to safety.

720
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,920
Dix and his men moved through the city

721
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,880
in an effort to liberate it.

722
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,520
He assaulted a building alone in the face of heavy fire

723
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,320
to rescue two Filipinos.

724
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,640
He killed six Viet Cong and brought out the men.

725
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,240
Dix and his men fought through the night,

726
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:21,680
taking back the hotel, theater, embassy house,

727
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:22,960
and other buildings.

728
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,200
On February 2nd, after 56 hours of battle,

729
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,840
the city was freed.

730
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,360
Dix's men had killed an estimated 200 V.C.

731
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,080
He was presented the Medal of Honor by President Johnson

732
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,040
on January 16th, 1969.

733
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,080
The Medal of Honor series

734
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,480
is a production of Veterans Radio.

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00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,880
Military veterans touch everyone's life.

736
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,480
I'm guessing right now you're thinking of a veteran,

737
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,040
a close friend, relative, maybe it's you.

738
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,200
Even the toughest of us sometimes need help,

739
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,960
but don't know where to turn for support.

740
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,000
You don't need special training

741
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,520
to help a veteran in your life.

742
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,280
We can all help someone going through a difficult time.

743
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,600
Learn how you can be there for veterans.

744
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,120
Visit veteranscrisisline.net.

745
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,520
Veteranscrisisline.net,

746
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,080
a message from the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs.

747
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,840
Hey, we are back here on Veterans Radio

748
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,920
and we're talking benefits this week.

749
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,920
And online with me is a retired Air Force general,

750
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,440
Carol Anne Faustone from Legal Health for Veterans

751
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,800
and David Sames, who is the Executive Director

752
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,080
of the Washtenaw County Michigan Veterans Service Office.

753
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,280
So, Carol Anne, what's going on out there?

754
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,280
Anything that we need to be aware of

755
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,280
or anything that you see that's helping people out?

756
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,920
You mentioned the DOL Act.

757
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:50,400
Well, the Elizabeth DOL Act is pretty important

758
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:55,400
when it relates to those veterans right now

759
00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:01,720
and they're pushing for paralysis, PVA, veteran,

760
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,000
anybody that has ALS, spinal cord injuries

761
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,320
and multiple dystrophy.

762
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,360
They're looking at these veterans to try to get them dale,

763
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,840
benefits, home care, community care,

764
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,320
so they could stay in their home.

765
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,920
And one of the factors that they're really trying

766
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,760
to address is the issue of the caregivers.

767
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,960
As we well know, the caregiver over a period of time,

768
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,040
he or she, as they're caring for their loved one,

769
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,400
they wear down when they don't have some support coming in,

770
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:42,400
whether it's an agency or some hours that the VA is supplying.

771
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:48,440
So, they are looking at this with the Elizabeth DOL Act

772
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,360
and it's called the Home Care Act.

773
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,680
And so, it's exactly what it says.

774
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,440
They're trying to give those resources available

775
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,080
to our veterans so that they could stay in their home.

776
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,480
And with one of the things that their other priority

777
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,480
is proper and adequate exams

778
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,120
so that the veteran isn't going back and forth.

779
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:18,120
And this really affects this class of veterans

780
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,760
because as you well know, some of them are bedwritten,

781
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,840
some of them are in wheelchairs,

782
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,640
and the transportation back and forth to the hospital

783
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,160
is really critical.

784
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:36,160
And you need that exam to get the disability benefit,

785
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,520
the BVA part.

786
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,800
And that's what we're talking about right now.

787
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,200
We're granting those benefits up through the channel

788
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:52,200
so that our veterans with paralyzed veterans,

789
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:57,680
spinal cord, the ALS, they could stay in their home.

790
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,600
And I think this is unbelievable.

791
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:06,600
It's a great new act that's coming around like our PAC Act.

792
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,160
From August of 22, it could make a huge difference

793
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,800
for a family and a veteran.

794
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,280
Well, I certainly agree with you on that.

795
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,240
I mean, I know quite a few veterans here in the local area

796
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:26,240
that have been able to take advantage of home alterations,

797
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:31,560
say ramps and doors and bathrooms and so on and so forth.

798
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,720
So it is really important.

799
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:35,720
And for those veterans out there listening,

800
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:39,760
no matter where you are, if you think that you may be entitled

801
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,080
to some of these things or if you even have a question

802
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,920
about it, you should get a hold of your local VSO,

803
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:45,960
whoever that might be.

804
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,400
Or they can either be through the VA hospital

805
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,720
because I know that all of the VSOs here locally

806
00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:57,360
have a little office up there or just go into the phone.

807
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:02,120
There are state VSOs, there are law firms that can help you.

808
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,160
There are all kinds of people out there can help you.

809
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,400
But don't, like I said, don't just sit where you are

810
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,920
and not do anything.

811
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,960
If you feel that you're entitled to contact

812
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,480
some of these people, what can they say?

813
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:16,800
No?

814
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:17,640
That's the only thing.

815
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,360
Well, the other thing is as you're going into the VA

816
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,320
and you've got your team, whatever color it is,

817
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,000
Kimberly brought up the social worker,

818
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,680
your physician, your nurse, bring these issues up

819
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,440
because that's where it starts first to approve

820
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,120
the social worker with the caregivers program

821
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:41,120
or to be able to build a ramp or renovate your home.

822
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,200
And that is a larger process.

823
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,600
But if you get the sign off from your physician

824
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,040
and your team that yes, you really need these services,

825
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,520
home care in your home, it starts there

826
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,520
with your team at the VA Medical Center.

827
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,920
And also communicating with your county council

828
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,280
or your VSO or us at Legal Health for Veterans,

829
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,800
what issues you're going on

830
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,160
because we're your advocates for you out there.

831
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,720
So please utilize the resources.

832
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:17,800
And if you don't know, please ask questions.

833
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,280
Right.

834
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,040
And with the caveat of that,

835
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,880
are Ann Arbor VA or any medical center,

836
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:31,440
they have a program of comprehensive assistance

837
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,560
for family caregivers.

838
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,840
So let's say you have somebody that wants to care for you.

839
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,760
You're the veteran and your spouse

840
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,480
or you're, you know, I've seen the grandchildren or children

841
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,360
and you want to become the caregiver for that veteran.

842
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,280
Now note, this has to be,

843
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,840
the veteran has to be at least 70% service connected.

844
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,440
But if you have somebody in the family

845
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:56,480
that wants to be that,

846
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,600
you want to talk to your social worker and your doctor,

847
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,360
talk about the care that you need

848
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,120
and you want that care to come from your spouse

849
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,440
or a family member.

850
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:10,760
That's where you start.

851
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,040
You want to develop that where is the need there.

852
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,600
And if that needs there,

853
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:20,600
then it's a really easy program to apply to online.

854
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,240
They have a portal and the caregiver

855
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:28,720
will put all their personal information in,

856
00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:30,880
the veteran will put all their information in,

857
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,880
but you want to start first at your caregiver

858
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,440
or with your doctor first.

859
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,720
Because I've done that.

860
00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:44,280
David, you brought up an awesome point.

861
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,680
I've got an e-book out there,

862
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,040
A Legal Help for Veterans.

863
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,920
And those are all free on this program,

864
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,280
the comprehensive caregivers, the general,

865
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,160
there's three different components.

866
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,040
But one thing I encourage everybody to look at,

867
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,200
your advice is awesome.

868
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,800
It's the activities of daily living.

869
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:07,800
And you should have three or four, bathing, toileting.

870
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:14,280
One thing that we find, Dale, you asked what's happening.

871
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,960
Quite a few veterans and their families have been calling in

872
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,680
and David, I don't know if you've been seeing this,

873
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,840
but they've been getting denials

874
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,440
for the caregivers program.

875
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:30,440
They've gone up the chain and if you are driving veterans,

876
00:44:31,240 --> 00:44:34,760
that is considered a high independence.

877
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:39,160
And that's the reason why four out of five

878
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,360
in the last month, they have been denied.

879
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:47,360
If you're still driving, that's not one of the activities

880
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,200
of daily living, then they're believing you're

881
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,960
at a higher level of independence.

882
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,240
You can take care of yourself.

883
00:44:55,240 --> 00:44:56,400
Well, that's going to be tough time

884
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,160
to talk some of these people into giving up their cars.

885
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,200
I'll tell you that, even though they have seven or eight

886
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,240
different medical issues, they're still not going to give

887
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:09,800
up their car, but that's too bad.

888
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,640
That really is too bad.

889
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,880
David, is that caregiver program,

890
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,240
does the caregiver then get compensated for that?

891
00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:20,480
They do, yeah.

892
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:25,840
And they can get healthcare at the local hospital too.

893
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:26,840
Really?

894
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:27,840
Yep.

895
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,760
Boy, see the folks, you got to listen to this program.

896
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,320
You can't, you never know what you're going to learn.

897
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,160
This is great.

898
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,400
I think this is really important.

899
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,840
I was not aware.

900
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,200
So the caregiver could get care at the VA as well.

901
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,320
That was just great.

902
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:43,560
Yes.

903
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:44,480
Okay.

904
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,000
Well, of course, it all has to get approved.

905
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:46,520
Like, yeah.

906
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,320
No, I know.

907
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,720
You know, and going up there.

908
00:45:49,720 --> 00:45:53,400
And then that's where I've had somewhere, you know,

909
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,280
oh, we can apply through the portal,

910
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,960
but then we didn't do our due diligence enough

911
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:02,360
with partnering with their doctor and the social worker.

912
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,280
And that's where it all starts.

913
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,320
The form is not that hard to do, the portal,

914
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,680
but what is making sure that, like Carolyn said,

915
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:15,960
you have the ADLs, you have probably three or more.

916
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,240
So that's the key here.

917
00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:22,480
And that portal that you're talking to,

918
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:23,880
that's where you have to go and sign in

919
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:29,360
and use the new sign-ins, the IDME or the login.gov, right?

920
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,960
The portal is an application process.

921
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:37,000
And so that's where you can go and do the application.

922
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,280
I don't think you have to have the IDME in order

923
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,800
to fill that out.

924
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,280
It's been a while since I got on there.

925
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,120
Carol, do you?

926
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,480
Yep, I've got all of that in the ebook, David,

927
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,040
and I would encourage, it's all free, go and look.

928
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,920
But going back to this, the interesting thing,

929
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:03,320
it's not on IDME, it's on the portal.

930
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:08,640
But if you're working with your team, and this is real huge,

931
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,280
it could be approved at the local level.

932
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,480
And when individuals are filling this out themselves

933
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,320
and sending it in, I've also noticed, David,

934
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,080
it's going to the national level higher.

935
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:27,120
And they miss the first step because the VA Medical Center,

936
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:32,520
the Detroit VA Medical Center, if your team knows you need this,

937
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,080
you fill out the paperwork, they will help you right there,

938
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:37,640
the social workers.

939
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,320
And they could approve your home care,

940
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,080
your caregivers right there.

941
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,240
But a lot of people are bypassing that,

942
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:50,400
and they're going to the next level, which going to Washington,

943
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,920
and it's taking a long time.

944
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,560
We've called in to see where it's at,

945
00:47:55,560 --> 00:48:00,080
and then to find out the veteran or their significant other,

946
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,320
filled out the form wrong, and it's coming back to them.

947
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:09,480
So please work with your team initially if you need help.

948
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,920
Oh, Caroline, this is going to be from our supporter here.

949
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,320
Where would I go to get that e-book?

950
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:21,400
www.legalhelpforveterans.com.

951
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,960
I think there's 26 out there.

952
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,160
They're free.

953
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,440
You could download them.

954
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,560
It has all the paperwork.

955
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,600
What you asked a great question, Dale,

956
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,680
let me piggyback what David said.

957
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,920
Yes, the caregiver's up to three.

958
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:43,520
The primary should be living in the home.

959
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,640
And then you could have two others

960
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,720
to give that caregiver some respite care.

961
00:48:49,720 --> 00:48:52,800
You don't expect somebody to be there 24-7.

962
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,840
But you will get payment if approved.

963
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:02,000
The caregivers will go to a special class trained by the VA,

964
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,480
and they will pay you to go to school.

965
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,840
And so that's all listed in the e-book.

966
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:13,440
And the other thing is, depending on the care you're given,

967
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,280
there's two different levels of payment.

968
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,000
If you are giving extensive care,

969
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,000
let's say to a paralyzed veteran,

970
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,400
he or she needs rolling and turning.

971
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,200
Complete, they're a level five.

972
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,640
They need everything.

973
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:33,720
That caregiver will get a higher value, a level two rating,

974
00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:37,360
versus somebody that's maybe going to pick up groceries

975
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:42,200
or driving them to their exams.

976
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,440
So please take a look at that.

977
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:50,960
It is an unbelievable program, but you need to have the ADLs.

978
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,800
One new ADL that I think is not stressed

979
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,760
is if you end up with a prosthesis

980
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:04,200
and you're going in learning how to walk or use your arm

981
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:10,120
or whatever, that is considered a really high ADL

982
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,040
that you could have a caregiver for.

983
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:16,120
So please look at those issues.

984
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:21,040
As I learned a lot that I thought

985
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,240
David brought up the comprehensive.

986
00:50:23,240 --> 00:50:25,200
That's the most intense.

987
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,400
And then there's the general one where

988
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,960
you could apply for hours that the VA on your needs

989
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,200
will give you the hours of care.

990
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,520
And then the third one, I don't know too many.

991
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:41,000
I do know two veterans where they give you the budget.

992
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,840
They would give you the budget, Dale, as the veteran

993
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,240
and say, OK, you go and hire your own caregivers.

994
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:50,240
But then monthly, you need to submit the report.

995
00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:53,120
How did you use your funds?

996
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,120
Some people like to keep control of that,

997
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,320
but it's a wonderful program.

998
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,560
Well, it sounds like when we were talking about ADLs,

999
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,040
those are activities of daily living.

1000
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,760
So we have to make sure that everybody understands that.

1001
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,120
These really smart people that we have here on Veterans Radio,

1002
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:15,200
they like to use these shortcuts and so forth.

1003
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,760
And some people are not that familiar with.

1004
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,640
We've only got about three minutes left to go,

1005
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,400
which is the hour flies by.

1006
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,960
What should we be looking out for in the next month or so

1007
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,080
as far as disability is concerned?

1008
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:35,480
Are there any other presumptive things

1009
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,800
that might be coming up on a list that you're aware of?

1010
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,520
Or are there any particular conditions

1011
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,640
that we need to look for?

1012
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,320
I haven't seen any coming down the pipeline.

1013
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:50,480
But with the huge PACDAC and you have TERRA exams,

1014
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:55,920
that's been you're in an area where there was some toxics

1015
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,800
exposure, PFAS.

1016
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:02,000
It seems like every base that we've had has PFAS.

1017
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:06,760
And if that's causing those cancers,

1018
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:12,560
then you can use that to apply for disability compensation.

1019
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,800
I mean, I've never thought Fort Drum would have PFAS,

1020
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:17,560
but it did.

1021
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:23,440
And so there's bases out there that you don't think,

1022
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,120
oh, well, it's not in the news.

1023
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:26,720
But you do some more research.

1024
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:31,640
Then if you're getting some type of weird cancer,

1025
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,320
or if you're getting some ailment that

1026
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,960
might be connected to PFAS, then you definitely

1027
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:40,080
want to reach out to a service officer, Carolyn,

1028
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,760
to look into that to file on that claim.

1029
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:44,640
Yeah.

1030
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:49,800
I should mention that we're going to have Mike Cox on today

1031
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,240
as a lawyer if I talk about Camp Lejeune.

1032
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:55,080
He will be on our next benefits program

1033
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,320
on the first Sunday of March.

1034
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,400
Carolyn, you got one minute.

1035
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,120
What would you like to add?

1036
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,560
I just want to say thank you very much, veterans,

1037
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:03,640
for your service.

1038
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,000
Please ask the questions.

1039
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,560
If you don't know, there's so much.

1040
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,720
I mean, I learn stuff or ask questions all the time.

1041
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:13,400
And David, thank you for always being there

1042
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,560
when I've got a question that seems far fetched,

1043
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:17,960
but they're not.

1044
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,880
And so thank you very much.

1045
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,080
You're welcome, yes.

1046
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,840
We would learn something new every day, even I do.

1047
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,520
So it is always something new to learn.

1048
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,560
I learn stuff every month, which is awesome.

1049
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,000
And I think it's so important.

1050
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,640
So I appreciate both of you, Carolyn Falzon,

1051
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,040
from Legal Health for Veterans.

1052
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:42,520
David Sames from the Washington County Veterans Service

1053
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:43,040
Office.

1054
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:44,280
Thank you so very much.

1055
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,080
I also want to remind people that we

1056
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,760
are going to be talking with a representative

1057
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,960
from the Non-Commissioned Officers Association coming up

1058
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,720
on the 16th idea, I think it is, to see

1059
00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:59,280
if we can talk a little bit about some of the changes that

1060
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:05,000
may or may not be occurring with the VA under the things that

1061
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,640
are going on in Washington.

1062
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,160
So stick around for that.

1063
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,880
I think you'll find that interesting.

1064
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:15,040
Also, I wanted to remind you to go to wearevetsldd.com

1065
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,720
to help out that organization out there in California.

1066
00:54:17,720 --> 00:54:20,800
They could really use the funds to provide food and clothing

1067
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,800
for homeless deaths out there in West LA.

1068
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,680
So am I dragging this out here any longer?

1069
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,080
Is he starting to count me down?

1070
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:29,320
I'm not sure.

1071
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:29,960
Here we go.

1072
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:30,560
All right.

1073
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,040
So I want to thank everybody for being on our program today.

1074
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,240
We're going out with America the Beautiful again.

1075
00:54:37,240 --> 00:54:39,200
Until then, you are dismissed.

1076
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:56,960
God bless America, land that I love.

1077
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:04,520
Stand beside her and guide her through the night

1078
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:14,720
with a light from above, from the mountains to the prairies

1079
00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:21,320
to the oceans, white with foam.

1080
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:33,040
God bless America, my home sweet home.

1081
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:44,840
God bless America, my home sweet home.

1082
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:55,640
God bless America, land that I love.

1083
00:55:55,640 --> 00:56:03,160
Stand beside her and guide her through the night

1084
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:13,280
with a light from above, from the mountains to the prairies

1085
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:19,960
to the oceans, white with foam.

1086
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:28,960
God bless America, my home sweet home.

1087
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:50,960
God bless America, my home sweet home.

