1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,000 All across America and around the world, this is Veterans Radio. 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,000 This is Veterans Radio. 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:20,000 And now, your host for today's program, Dale Throneberry. 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:28,000 And good afternoon and welcome to Veterans Radio. 5 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,000 My name is Dale Throneberry. 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:35,000 I'm a United States Army Aviator veteran from Vietnam era, 1969. 7 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,000 I want to welcome you to Veterans Radio this weekend. Memorial Day weekend. 8 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,000 And just a quick disclaimer here. 9 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:48,000 Remember that Veterans Day is to honor Veterans Memorial Day is to honor those that did not come home. 10 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,000 So we're going to be talking about that a little bit later on. 11 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,000 We've got a great program here. 12 00:00:53,000 --> 00:01:02,000 And I wanted to make sure that people are aware that here on Veterans Radio that we want to thank our sponsors so much for helping us stay on the air for 17 years now. 13 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:08,000 And number one, we've got legal help for veterans and they specialize in veterans disability claims. 14 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:17,000 So for more information, go to their website at legalhelpforveterans.com, where you can give them a call at 800-69-34800. 15 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:24,000 And I should remind you that U.S. wings right now is offering specially designed coronavirus masks. 16 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,000 So go to their website at U.S.Wings.org. 17 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:32,000 And you can also find the link to the website at U.S.Wings.org. 18 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:40,000 And if you're interested in getting to know more about the U.S.Wings, go to the website at U.S.Wings.org. 19 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:48,000 And we're offering specially designed coronavirus masks. 20 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,000 So go to their website at U.S.Wings.org. 21 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,000 And check those out. 22 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,000 It's rather interesting. 23 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,000 And of course, we want to thank our local service organizations here in the Ann Arbor, Michigan area. 24 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:07,000 And that is the American Legion Post Number 46, VFW Post 423, and the Charles S. Kettles Vietnam Veterans of America Post 310, all of Ann Arbor, Michigan. 25 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:17,000 And while I'm talking about Ann Arbor, Michigan real quick, just a quick aside, as I was driving out earlier this morning, I went past Veterans Park. 26 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,000 So, hey Ann Arbor, how about cutting the grass at Veterans Park? 27 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:30,000 You just spent through the donations of everybody in the community, put up a nice brand new flagpole, and you can hardly see it due to the grass. 28 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,000 So if it was my yard, you'd come out here and ticket me. 29 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,000 So come on Ann Arbor, cut the grass. 30 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaking of Veterans in Veterans Park and Veterans Monuments, various places around the world, tomorrow is Memorial Day. 31 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:52,000 And we want to make sure that you check out your local area for ceremonies that will be going on. 32 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:59,000 Because of the virus right now, many of them are going to be virtuals, going to be recorded, they're going to be streamed. 33 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,000 They're not allowing crowds. 34 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:08,000 Some of you in some states that have opened up, you may have your normal Memorial Day parades and so forth. 35 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,000 But here in Michigan, we will not be having those. 36 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:16,000 And I believe most of the states are surrounding area are the same way. 37 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:25,000 So I encourage you to check with your local service organizations, whether it be the American Legion, the VFW, the Vietnam Veterans of America, 38 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:34,000 the Disabled American Veterans, the Paralyzed Veterans of America, AMVETS, all the other different organizations to see what the local ceremonies are going to be. 39 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:45,000 I know that the VVA Chapter 310 is having one at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial here in Washtenaw County tomorrow at 1 o'clock. 40 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:51,000 If you go to their website, vva310.org, you're going to be able to watch it. 41 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:59,000 And I believe they're recording it so that you can play it back. And what they're going to be doing, I know out there, as I mentioned just a little bit earlier, 42 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:09,000 is they're going to be honoring the KIA's killed inactions and missing inactions from Washtenaw County during the Vietnam War. 43 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:14,000 This is always a very, very emotional time for veterans out there. 44 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:20,000 And so I'm encouraging those of you that are living with veterans, give them a little break today. 45 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:28,000 And tomorrow because they are thinking of their friends and their colleagues that they lost so many years ago, 46 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:35,000 whether it was through combat or it was through the diseases that they picked up around the world. 47 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:43,000 I'm sitting in our Veterans Radio Bunker Studio here and I'm looking around at a bunch of pictures. 48 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:51,000 And I can see at least 10 or 12 young men who are no longer here. 49 00:04:51,000 --> 00:05:00,000 And it's just sad. It's just sad. You know, I figure that I'm approaching 74 years old. 50 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:06,000 And those men, the ones that I knew, their lives ended when they were 19 and 20. 51 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,000 So give a pause and think about them. 52 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:14,000 That's what Memorial Day is about. It's not about the sales. It's not about the picnics. 53 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:24,000 It's about these men and women who paid that ultimate price so that you could go out and celebrate. 54 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:29,000 All right. Enough of that for now. We'll come back to that at the end of the program. 55 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:34,000 One again, to remind you that Veterans Radio is a production of Veterans Radio America. 56 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,000 And that Veterans Radio America is a 501C3 nonprofit. 57 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,000 So if you'd like to support Veterans Radio, we would love for you to do that. 58 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:55,000 If you have any comments about our programs or things that you would like to add to our programs, please, please go to the website, veteransradio.net, click on Contact Us and let us know what you like and what you don't like. 59 00:05:55,000 --> 00:06:02,000 And especially if you like the programs at the end of each program on the website, there's space there for you to make a comment. 60 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:09,000 And I was told by our social media expert that I should ask you to do that. So please do. 61 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:18,000 I want to get right down into the program itself. And we're going to have our local, it's not local in this case. 62 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:23,000 It's War Horses for Veterans. And I just think this is a great organization. 63 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:33,000 And I got an email last week reminding me about this organization. It is a premier horsemanship networking personal growth program in the U.S. 64 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:41,000 And they are a Kansas-based nonprofit that brings combat veterans from across the country together in a safe and peaceful environment. 65 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:49,000 Well, that's good. And joining me on the line right now is one of the founders, and that is Patrick Benson. And Patrick, welcome to Veterans Radio. 66 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:54,000 Thank you very much. Appreciate it. It's an honor to be on. 67 00:06:54,000 --> 00:07:03,000 Thank you. It's an honor to talk to you. I'm always so excited to talk to veterans that have, you know, started some sort of organization that helps veterans. 68 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:07,000 So please tell us about the War Horses for Veterans. 69 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:18,000 Yeah, War Horses for Veterans. That was a constant idea I had. And, you know, in a short cell thing, so we know I was in the infantry of the Army. 70 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:24,000 We operated mostly in O3 and with Fallujah and Ramayim of the year. 71 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,000 And then, you know, running around, running the squad side of the element. 72 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,000 And my buddy Gary and I are, you know, all over the place. And then, you know, your engagement. 73 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:37,000 And I say, you know, I'm leaving my family over there and starting to come in two weeks later. I'm starting to come. 74 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,000 And that was my transition. And luckily enough, I found horses a little bit. 75 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:46,000 We used to go out and work out on some ranch that's occasionally in Colorado Springs. 76 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:53,000 And I wrote a letter to a name John Lyons. He was a world renowned horseman after a engaged field that we had in Fallujah. 77 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:58,000 And my mom got it to him and John lost his brother in Vietnam. His brother was a 4-3 con guy. 78 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:05,000 And John was 16 when he got the news. And so he's always had a heart for veterans. 79 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,000 And so when we keep my head down, I'll have a spot for me when I get back. 80 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,000 And I jumped in the horse industry right away. 81 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:16,000 And, you know, it was years later what I was doing for a living was really having the impact on me. 82 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:21,000 You know, I didn't know what BTS really was. I just worked. I just worked and built my brand, built my business, 83 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:28,000 perfected my skill set, my craft and did well, you know. And then out of nowhere, stuff started kind of rootin' up. 84 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:33,000 And Buddy's the man we talk and tell him, you guys, you know, people have a real hard time transitioning. 85 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,000 And we're losing guys over. And then we're losing guys when we get back. 86 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:44,000 And I met some amazing people along the way in my journey and individuals and mentors and owners of horses that worked very, very hard 87 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:51,000 and have very, very nice networks and wonderful people. And, you know, and that's where I was like, you know, 88 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:56,000 I'd be really cool if veterans had the same opportunity on my head right now and life, personal professional, 89 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:02,000 just life in general, having those mentors. There's things you won't learn in college or learn anywhere else. 90 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:11,000 And, you know, the horses that we work, I wanted everyone, I wanted the veterans to be able to work really nice performance horses. 91 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:17,000 The reason why for that is because I don't want you to be limited. I want you to see something you're like, 92 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:23,000 man, I wish someday I could ever ride a horse like that. Well, you can. And we do. And we pull it off and we make it happen. 93 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:29,000 And the primpsoils behind that is, you know, push yourself out of your comfort zone. 94 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:35,000 Don't forget that you can do a lot of things. And if it's a physical ailment or whatever, there's always a way around it. 95 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,000 Mentally, you're always challenging yourself to be better. You should always push that. 96 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:44,000 And you have to have a lot of discipline in the horse industry and horses teach you humility. 97 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:49,000 They teach you to feel again. There's so many wonderful tools that a horse can teach you. 98 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:55,000 And I had to design something too on top of it. I'm not going to use the word therapy. 99 00:09:55,000 --> 00:10:04,000 And how do I get my knuckle, you know, knuckle dragon door kick in, you know, bar fighting, you know, buddies and people I know to get and do something like this. 100 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,000 And we teach the trade. That's why it's a horsemanship base. 101 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:13,000 Lessons from horsemanship transitioned into likes in general very well, very, very well. 102 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:22,000 So it's sound like a great organization. And how do if I wanted to do this, how would I go about doing it? 103 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:29,000 You can go online at warhorsesforveterans.org or whfb.org and you can apply. 104 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:36,000 As of right now, we're, you know, in the pandemic, we're booked the whole year already. 105 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:41,000 And we opened up a first responder division as well. And so we're all on social media. 106 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:48,000 We're all over the place, but we are in the process of developing other opportunities here in the near future for the expansion of it. 107 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:53,000 Things are, things are very going very well. Outcomes are very, very good, positive. 108 00:10:53,000 --> 00:11:07,000 The biggest thing we want to walk away with is you can do it. You're capable of many, many things, you know, and take the good, you know, and leave the path, the path to the past, but it doesn't define what you can do amazing things moving forward. 109 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:15,000 I couldn't agree with you with the Amor Patrick. We're talking with Patrick Benson here, who is one of the founders of warhorsesforveterans. 110 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:28,000 I just think it's cool because during this whole pandemic, I've been watching a lot of Westerns, which is something I've always really enjoyed a lot of hop along Cassidy and John Wayne and so on and so forth. 111 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:35,000 I'm going, boy, I wish I could ride a horse like that and also could treat, you know, some of the things that have been bothering me over the many years. 112 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:46,000 And so I found this website and I thought it was just really great opportunity for men and women to work through some of their issues. 113 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:54,000 And I know that you have a whole screening process that is set up so that, you know, you could get people into the program. 114 00:11:54,000 --> 00:12:03,000 And I want to congratulate you on this. It's another example of veterans taking care of veterans. 115 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:13,000 And that's what I think that's what veterans are all about. We all want to make sure that our buddies are safe and that we can help them do whatever it is that they want to do. 116 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:20,000 Absolutely. You know, I would say horses are the bridge and veterans are their own best therapy. 117 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:32,000 We, you know, you trust your own, you know, your own, and you know, the idea is you never leave them behind, you know, so this is a different battle, but at the same time, you know, you want to decompress. 118 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:47,000 The wonderful thing about horses too is I've got exposed into a lot of different, I've really pushed a lot of the breeding tactics techniques and heart rate variability training and things to help me perform higher at physical activities and methyl capacity. 119 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:53,000 And I realized when you ride horses or you focus, you know, a horse when you focus, working on a horse, you don't think about anything else. 120 00:12:53,000 --> 00:13:04,000 This one thing, the first time in many, many years, a lot of times, that's the first time you're able to be in your head and nothing else is scattering and driving you insane and you're thinking about all these other issues. 121 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:12,000 You're focused on one element and you are present. You're finally present. And that is it. That's huge. 122 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,000 That's huge. 123 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:18,000 I think that's great. So if we wanted to support War Horse for Veterans, how would we do that, Patrick? 124 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:33,000 You go to WHFB or warhorsesforveterans.org. You can click on donate and we do, you know, we offer donations and we've, you know, we've been very fortunate, very wonderful country we live in, very supportive of what we're able to do so we can be as effective as we are. 125 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:42,000 And then we're all over social media, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, all that. We're over there. So if you go to our website, you can click on that and see all our handles. 126 00:13:42,000 --> 00:14:00,000 And yeah, it's an awesome, it's an honor to keep serving and it's an honor to remember our brothers. This is a, you know, giving all the sacrifice over this weekend and to move forward in life and do great things and honor them by doing and being the best person you can. 127 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:11,000 Absolutely. So I want to thank you very much, Patrick, for being on Veterans Radio and please, I guess we'll start following you if you can follow us. It'll be great and we'll see if we can benefit each other. 128 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:16,000 That sounds good. Appreciate the time, appreciate the opportunity and you have a good one. 129 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,000 I will, you two. Stay safe. 130 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,000 You too. 131 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:27,000 All right. All right. War horses for veterans. A great organization out in Kansas. 132 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:35,000 Go out and learn how to ride a horse. And it takes your mind off of a lot of things for me. I was thinking about when he was talking about learning how to ride a horse is how do you stay on a horse? 133 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:50,000 That was always a challenge for me. But anyhow, all right, so we're going to take a real quick break. And when we come back, we have our guests for the day and it's Joe Galloway and everybody, all you Vietnam veterans out there and many of you from this current generation of veterans, 134 00:14:50,000 --> 00:15:08,000 Joe Galloway, a journalist, war journalist started a, I'll give you a whole intro to him when we come back and we're really excited. Joe's been on the program numerous times that we're going to be talking about his new book, which is entitled, They Were Soldiers. 135 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:20,000 This is about a number of Vietnam veterans and how they made the transition and how they continued to be successful. So stay tuned. We'll be right back after these messages. 136 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,000 This is Thomas Schreff. 137 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,000 This is Erasco Flash. 138 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,000 Hey, this is Jake Owen. 139 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,000 This is Florida, Georgia line. 140 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,000 Hey, this is Charity Daniels. 141 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:31,000 Fisher House gives wounded warriors, veterans and military families a no-cost place to stay during the medical crisis. 142 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:36,000 The homes are built right on the grounds of major VA and military medical centers. 143 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:40,000 The design helps people get together and make friends and support one another. 144 00:15:40,000 --> 00:16:06,000 You can help find out how at FisherHouse.org. 145 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:38,000 Sometimes it's a little difficult to do to get him to fade out when we do these programs. 146 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,000 But anyway, we are back here on Veterans Radio today. 147 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:46,000 It is Memorial Day weekend and I can't think of a better guest to have on our program than Joe Galloway. 148 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:53,000 And Joe real quickly is one of America's premier war and foreign correspondents for half a century. 149 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:57,000 He recently retired as a senior military correspondent with Knight Ritter Newspapers. 150 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,000 I'm just going to kind of go through this briefly. 151 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,000 He served for a while. 152 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,000 He serves as a special consultant to General Colin Powell. 153 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,000 He has worked with Norman Swartzkoff. 154 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:20,000 He obviously wrote along with Hal Moore that we were soldiers once in young, which was made into a critically claimed movie with Mel Gibson. 155 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,000 Then he coauthored a number of other books. 156 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:30,000 He wrote another book with General Moore entitled We Are Soldiers Still, a journey back to the battlefield of Vietnam. 157 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:42,000 By the way, it says that Military History Magazine says that we were soldiers once in young as among their top 10 books about war. 158 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Let's see. 159 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,000 What else have you done here, Joe? 160 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,000 So many little things here going on. 161 00:17:49,000 --> 00:18:01,000 Remember the Board of Values, the first Calvary Division, a couple of honorary doctorates. 162 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,000 I want to talk about her a little bit later on, too. 163 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:09,000 But today we're going to be talking with Joe Galloway about his new book, They Were Soldiers That He Co-wrote With Marvin Wolfe. 164 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,000 So, Joe, welcome to Veterans Radio. 165 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,000 Nice to be back again. 166 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,000 It's nice to be anywhere, isn't it, sometimes? 167 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,000 It is that. 168 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,000 Is that? 169 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:26,000 Well, I wanted to have you on the program when I saw this book. 170 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:36,000 And I guess the idea is, where did you come up with the idea to talk about the sacrifices and contributions of Vietnam veterans? 171 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:42,000 Well, Marvin Wolfe and I have been friends for 55 years. 172 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:47,000 I first met him. 173 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:54,000 He was a spec-for photographer in the First Cav Division Public Affairs Office in Ankay in 1965. 174 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,000 And we've been friends ever since. 175 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,000 And he moved to North Carolina a couple of years ago. 176 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:08,000 He said, lives about two hours drive from me and we got our heads together. 177 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:23,000 And it's something both of us had been thinking about, and that is that so many Vietnam veterans came home to no welcome, no respect. 178 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:36,000 The media, the movies portrayed Vietnam veterans as losers and lieutenant-calleys. 179 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,000 And a lot of bulls like that. 180 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,000 And it's just wrong. 181 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:52,000 That's not who I saw in four tours in Vietnam from beginning of that war to the end of it. 182 00:19:52,000 --> 00:20:18,000 And we wanted to focus on 48 Vietnam veterans who, and not so much about the war they fought, but about the lives that they have lived and the good that they have done for their communities and our country since that war. 183 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,000 They came home and did good stuff. 184 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:29,000 And there are some famous people and there are some people you never heard of, but should have. 185 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:41,000 But they are all successful and they're all giving individuals and there ain't a loser among them. 186 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,000 No, not at all. 187 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:52,000 I was very excited when I first got the book and mine is an advanced readers copy. 188 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:59,000 And so I was able to go through this and there are just amazing stories. 189 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:14,000 You do mention in most of them a little bit about their experiences in Vietnam and some of them about their trials and tribulations of when they got home, but then the last half of almost all of the stories is about their successes. 190 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:25,000 There are so many talented people in here and I know that you had a couple that you wanted to mention specifically and I've got a couple I'm going to throw at you as we go along here and of the 48. 191 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:30,000 So let's start off with one that you wanted to mention. 192 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:39,000 Let's see. Let's talk about the Army nurse Diane Carlson Evans. I thought hers was a great story. 193 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:50,000 It is a great story. She was a nice innocent young Midwestern farm girl. 194 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:56,000 Got her nursing degree and went immediately and then listed in the Army. 195 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:08,000 Took a commission and said goodbye to her four brothers and their mom and dad on the farm and headed off to Vietnam. 196 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:21,000 And they first assigned her to a Mesh hospital in Vung Tau over on the coast, really a resort town. 197 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:27,000 And she did that for a couple of months, but that wasn't what she was looking for. 198 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:42,000 And so she volunteered to go to the the evac hospital in Placo, Camp Halaway, and that was right smack in the middle of the 4th division. 199 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:49,000 The big meat grinder battles up in the Central Highlands and and. 200 00:22:49,000 --> 00:23:00,000 She got all of the war she wanted and more hundreds of casualties pouring in and. 201 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:09,000 She pulled her tour and she went home and and she went home angry. 202 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:18,000 She got home and found that she couldn't talk to anybody about what she had experienced. 203 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:24,000 She tried to stay in the Army medical field and that didn't work. 204 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:33,000 She married an Army doctor, a surgeon, and they went home to Minnesota and started. 205 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:43,000 She started having kids, but behind it all was the PTSD of what she had been through. 206 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:57,000 And more to the point is 1982 comes along and they dedicate the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, the wall in Washington. 207 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:05,000 And they they they put the three statues of the three GIs up at the end of it. 208 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:13,000 And Diane says, where's the where's where's the woman? 209 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:25,000 You know, we serve to and and we're we're we're ignored and left out of the whole deal and that ain't right. 210 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:35,000 So she thought she would start a campaign to create a women's memorial on the mall. 211 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,000 In DC and she thought it might take two years. 212 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,000 It took 10. 213 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:52,000 She had she had to fight her way through the Washington DC bureaucracy, the park service, the Congress. 214 00:24:52,000 --> 00:25:04,000 There's art commissions and all kinds of people and nobody wanted to help her except all of our fellow nurses. 215 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:11,000 All of the women who served in Vietnam who understood what she was all about. 216 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:16,000 And eventually they got it done. 217 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:32,000 Like I said, it took 10 years and for the dedication of that women's memorial, they had a big veterans march down down Constitution Avenue. 218 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:47,000 And I remember that well because General Moore and I picked up the first cab guys and put them at the front of the parade where we thought they belonged. 219 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:53,000 And we were leading them. 220 00:25:53,000 --> 00:26:03,000 And suddenly a little short red headed lady came running out, got between us, grabbed each of us by a hand. 221 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:11,000 And she said, I'm from the 82nd evac hospital in Yachtron. 222 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:18,000 We treated all of your wounded that came out of the cab in the Iodrang Valley. 223 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,000 And I want to march with you guys. 224 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:28,000 And we were as proud of her as she was of the cab. 225 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,000 And we all marched down. 226 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:45,000 And then we could be proud of what Diane Carlson Evans had achieved with that magnificent statue of the two nurses and the wounded GI. 227 00:26:45,000 --> 00:27:01,000 And she's just a remarkable woman and achieved so much when there were times she thought about suicide. 228 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:17,000 The PTSD was eaten away at her, but this campaign gave her what she needed to get over that and get past that and do something good for America. 229 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:30,000 And for all of those military nurses who took such good care of all of our wounded, you know, and in four tours in Vietnam and half a dozen. 230 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,000 Other wars, I've seen it all. 231 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:46,000 I've seen the body stacked high as the roof in places like Bangladesh and the India pack war and other wars. 232 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:54,000 But I could not do the job the military nurses do. 233 00:27:54,000 --> 00:28:12,000 I could not see that 12 hours a day every day, month after month, the destroyed body, the young men dying. How do you do that? 234 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:19,000 I don't know. We've had privilege here on Veterans Radio talking with a number of nurses from the Vietnam era. 235 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:24,000 And each one of them talks about at some point in their tours, their emotion. 236 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,000 They just shut down emotionally because they couldn't deal with it any longer. 237 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,000 And all of us that were there. 238 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:48,000 It's amazing. And last year I spent a week doing video interviews of the veterans, the doctors, nurses and techs from the 85th evac hospital in Yachtarong. 239 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:55,000 Who treated our wounded from the Iodrang battles in 1965. 240 00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:03,000 And those stories are just etched in their minds and their hearts. 241 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:13,000 One of them told me, you know, on one single day in that terrible November of 1965, 242 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:26,000 we had 225 first-cav troopers wounded land on our doorstep in one day. 243 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:38,000 Yeah, people today, nurses and doctors and so forth can understand that with the coronavirus going around where people are coming into their hospitals by the 10s and 100s. 244 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:48,000 And you can see when you look at Diane and the other nurses, that of course is going to take its toll on you. 245 00:29:48,000 --> 00:30:03,000 And I wanted to start off with her because I thought that was so important that we realize what these nurses go through on a daily basis when they hold the hands of the, in this case of the young boys that were dying in Vietnam. 246 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:08,000 And, you know, unfortunately today they're holding the hands of the people that are passing away from this virus. 247 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,000 Absolutely. 248 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,000 Let's move on to, let's do Max Cleveland. 249 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:21,000 I had the honor of talking with Max a number of years ago and this guy is, this guy's tough. 250 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:44,000 He is a remarkable human being, one of my heroes, and I must tell you that, you know, my co-author, the late Lieutenant General Hal Moore, is a very non-political guy all of his career. 251 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:51,000 But there's only one exception to that. 252 00:30:51,000 --> 00:31:01,000 He stood on the steps of the Georgia State Capitol and endorsed Max Cleveland for reelection to the U.S. Senate. 253 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,000 And I cheered him on. 254 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:14,000 Max is just a remarkable human being, you know, he lost both legs and one arm in a grenade explosion. 255 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,000 He was a cab officer. 256 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:29,000 He was arriving at Quezon when the cab went up to lend the Marines a hand with all of that stuff up there. 257 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:37,000 And he was dismounting the helicopter and somebody dropped a live grenade. 258 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:42,000 And it got him, it got him bad. 259 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:51,000 And, you know, you lose three limbs and you don't have much left. 260 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,000 But what do you do then? 261 00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:08,000 You know, if you're Max Cleveland, you go home and you get to work and you go into politics and you become the Secretary of State of Georgia. 262 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:19,000 And then you achieve the highest goal of your lifetime, which is to sit in the U.S. Senate. 263 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,000 And he did that. 264 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:34,000 And, you know, he got done in by some dirty politics on his attempt to get a second term. 265 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:50,000 And since then has worked as the Executive Director of the American Battlefield Commission, which takes care of our military cemeteries all around the world. 266 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:56,000 Yeah, he's an incredible, incredible guy. 267 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:02,000 I mean, you know, and the idea that people attacked him because he wasn't wounded enough was just disgusting. 268 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:08,000 And it's always so upsetting to people who are about to... 269 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:13,000 Yeah, it was draft Audrey Gaspers who were attacking him for not being wounded enough. 270 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,000 Yeah, I know. I know what you mean. 271 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,000 Well, you know, that happens. 272 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:23,000 So let's move on. How about... 273 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,000 I want to talk about your wife. 274 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,000 Tell me a little bit about her. 275 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,000 Always happy to do that. 276 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,000 I figured you would be. 277 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:41,000 Well, Doc Gracie is a truly remarkable human being. 278 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:49,000 And the best thing that ever happened to me, they say third time's charm and she's wife number three. 279 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,000 And we've been together. 280 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,000 Well, I met her 50 years ago in Indonesia. 281 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,000 I should have married her then. 282 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:10,000 And kept track of her until about 30 years ago and saw her in DC and then she disappeared. 283 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:16,000 She turned up nine years ago and I said, where the hell have you been? 284 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:23,000 And she said, well, I took my eight year old daughter and ran away and joined the circus. 285 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,000 And I said, what? 286 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:32,000 And yeah, she had signed on as a traveling nurse with Barnum and Bailey. 287 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:41,000 And a year later, she and her little daughter were aerialists in the Trapeze Act in the big top. 288 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:53,000 And she did that for 10 years and then she came back and got her nurse practitioner degree and license. 289 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:58,000 And then she got a PhD in public health. 290 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:05,000 And she turned back up and I said, well, you're not getting away this time. 291 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,000 I'm going to marry you. 292 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:24,000 She's Singapore Chinese now an American citizen, of course, but she was a first cousin of the old Singapore Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew, 293 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:31,000 who founded modern Singapore and made it run like a Swiss watch. 294 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,000 And she's nobody to mess with. 295 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:41,000 She still works every day at the community free clinic here in Concord. 296 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,000 She does. 297 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:53,000 She doctors people who had no insurance, people who are poor, people who are homeless and not inconsiderable number of people. 298 00:35:53,000 --> 00:36:02,000 And there's a considerable number of homeless veterans who camp out in the woods behind the Harris Teter grocery store. 299 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:11,000 And if they're too spooked to come to the clinic, she takes her black bag and goes out in the woods and treats them out there. 300 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:18,000 I wanted to bring her up because she was actually in Vietnam during the Tet Offensive. 301 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:29,000 And she was indeed and was working with the street kids and war orphans in Saigon. 302 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:43,000 And a relative had a big house in Cholong, the Chinese section of Saigon, and that house was burned down. 303 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:48,000 So she went through some tough times. 304 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,000 That's what I wanted. 305 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,000 I wanted to get to that. 306 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:55,000 Now she continued on and just wanted to be a nurse. 307 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,000 And that's what she's been doing forever. 308 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,000 That's what she's been doing forever. 309 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:07,000 And she's going to keep doing it as long as she's drawing a breath. 310 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,000 She can't imagine retiring. 311 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:13,000 There are people out there and you're lucky that you found her again. 312 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,000 Oh, absolutely. 313 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:21,000 She says she's going to get another 15 years out of me. 314 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,000 We can only hope, Joe. 315 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,000 We need you around here. 316 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,000 We're talking with Joe Galloway here on Veterans Radio. 317 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,000 And the name of his newest book is They Were Soldiers. 318 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,000 It talks about the sacrifices and the contributions of Vietnam veterans. 319 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:39,000 And there are so many names in here that many of you will recognize some of them. 320 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,000 So let's go to another one of his old war buddies. 321 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,000 And that would be Lieutenant Colonel George Forrest. 322 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,000 Oh, yeah. 323 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:55,000 George Forrest is a real American hero and one of my heroes. 324 00:37:55,000 --> 00:38:04,000 His company of the Fifth Cavalry was attached to the Second Battalion's Seventh Cavalry, 325 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:13,000 leaving Landing Zone X-ray in the Outdrang, headed for a clearing on the map three miles away 326 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:18,000 that they codenamed Landing Zone Albany. 327 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:28,000 And they marched for several hours in the heat and they marched and sat down, 328 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:35,000 stopped a 600-meter long column of American troops, 329 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:42,000 and they captured a couple of prisoners at the head of the column. 330 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:48,000 And the battalion commander, who was not the sharpest knife in the drawer, 331 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:55,000 decided he wanted to go forward and personally question those prisoners. 332 00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:00,000 And he went up to the head of the column and then he thought, 333 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:09,000 well, he would call all of his company commanders forward with their first sergeants and their radio operators. 334 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:15,000 And he would personally point out where he wanted them to set up around the perimeter. 335 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:22,000 Well, that overlooks the fact that that's why God invented radios. 336 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:37,000 And as soon as they all got up there, they had walked into an L-shaped North Vietnamese Army Battalion ambush, 337 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:45,000 a fresh battalion that had not been committed in the fight at Landing Zone X-ray. 338 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,000 And they snapped the ambush. 339 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:58,000 And one thing George Forrest knew was that he had to get back to his company or bad things were going to happen. 340 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:06,000 And he's an athlete, he's, you know, six foot three and all muscle. 341 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:11,000 And he was young then and he took off like a streak of lightning. 342 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:18,000 He had two radio operators running behind him and both of them were killed. 343 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:26,000 He ran straight through the whole length of that ambush and made it back to his company. 344 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:31,000 He pushed them on the trail, he put them into a perimeter. 345 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:39,000 And by the time he got there, they had lost 17 men killed. 346 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:46,000 And George grieved their loss and felt guilty about it. 347 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:58,000 But his company lost fewer men killed than any other company in that march. 348 00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,000 I'm back. 349 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,000 Yep. 350 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:12,000 And that evening, George sent a patrol of about 10 guys under a sergeant. 351 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:23,000 Sergeant Cluj, to be precise, he sent them back up that trail through the heart of the ambush. 352 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:33,000 They took some stretchers with them and they were able to carry four or five of the worst wounded they found. 353 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:42,000 And they picked up a bunch of walking wounded to go with them to take them back to the tail of the column. 354 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:52,000 And but they had rounded up 25 or 30 American wounded who were out on that battlefield in the dark. 355 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:57,000 The North Vietnamese were combing the place for their own wounded. 356 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:02,000 And anytime they came across a wounded American, they killed him. 357 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:17,000 And they left their, George's people left their medic, a very fine Latino out of Texas, 358 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:25,000 gave him an M-60 machine gun and plenty of ammo and then he had his medical kit. 359 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:38,000 And he shepherded the wounded in that area of the ambush through a dark night, pulled them all through. 360 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:47,000 George Forrest had a great impact on that battle. 361 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:53,000 And in my humble opinion, a great American. 362 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:58,000 He came home, he finished up as a Lieutenant Colonel in the Army. 363 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:12,000 He went back to his old alma mater in Baltimore and coached football and was a counselor. 364 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:21,000 And then he was a principal of a high school in his old home county of St. Mary's, Maryland, 365 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:35,000 where he did his best to put young black Americans on a better course for their future. 366 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:42,000 And worked his tail off for a lot of years. 367 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:52,000 Now lives in Annapolis, if you ever run across him, throw him a salute because he damn sure earned it. 368 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:59,000 It certainly did. And there are so many people in this book that, you know, obviously we can't get to all of them today, 369 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:04,000 but you've given me a list of guests that I'm going to try and get on Veterans Radio. 370 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,000 So I'm going to impose on our friendship a little here later on and say, 371 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:14,000 okay, how do I get a hold of some of these people? We've only got about five minutes left, Joe. 372 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,000 And then we're talking with Joe Galloway. His new book is They Were Soldiers. 373 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,000 It's about the sacrifices and contributions of Vietnam veterans. 374 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:29,000 And I just wanted to talk briefly about Eileen Moore. And this is another nurse from Vietnam, 375 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:35,000 but she's no longer a nurse. So tell me a little bit about her if you can quickly. 376 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:51,000 Absolutely. She came home like Diane with some PTSD and a lot of bad memories and some good ones. 377 00:44:51,000 --> 00:45:06,000 She went to law school, got her law degree, ended up an appeals court judge in California. 378 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:17,000 And that's a pretty good way to go in the legal profession, but that wasn't enough for Eileen. 379 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:23,000 She wanted to do more and she wanted to do something for Vietnam veterans. 380 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:38,000 And she basically single-handedly set up a court system for veterans who get into legal trouble. 381 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:55,000 An alternative to go into jail or go into prison where they can come in before a judge and admit to their guilt 382 00:45:55,000 --> 00:46:14,000 and then be sentenced to go into counseling and if they successfully complete a course of reeducation, really, 383 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:33,000 their criminal record is erased. And Eileen has done just a remarkable thing, a remarkable job on behalf of Vietnam veterans 384 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,000 and all veterans. 385 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:48,000 I know that Veterans Court program is now being utilized in most states across the country and I have a feeling that she was probably instrumental in getting the whole thing started, it sounds like. 386 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:55,000 I think she was the one who initiated it in California and it spread from there. 387 00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:15,000 So we've got a lot of people here to be proud of as fellow Vietnam veterans and we just wanted to put their stories out there for Americans to read and understand who we are. 388 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:42,000 And I've for years been making speeches to veterans groups and active duty military and what I say is the Vietnam cohort may not be the greatest generation, as they said of the World War II guys, but by God, they're the greatest of their generation. 389 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:53,000 Absolutely. I couldn't agree with you more. And I think if you stack them up against the greatest generation, if you put them all in the same situation, they would all react the same way. 390 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,000 You got it. You got it. 391 00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:00,000 I think that's what people have to have to really remember. 392 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:12,000 The book is the book is they were soldiers the sacrifices contributions of Vietnam veterans. I encourage you to go out and get a hold of this there are so many names in here that you're going to recognize. 393 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:26,000 There's Oliver Stone, the film producer maker. There's Fred Smith of FedEx fame. There's Colin Powell in here there's Chuck Hagel as a senator. 394 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:36,000 Just all kinds of people men and women that I think it's really important that especially to the Vietnam veterans out there to check this out. 395 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:44,000 I think this is a great addition to anybody's libraries. Joe Galloway. I want to thank you very much for being on veterans radio again. 396 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:48,000 My pleasure and we'll do it again sometime. 397 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:53,000 We will do that. We will do that. I will be in touch with you. I promise. 398 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,000 Very good. Take care. 399 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:59,000 Thank you. Have a good Memorial Day. 400 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:03,000 And you as well and everybody else. 401 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,000 Thank you. Thank you. 402 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:15,000 Okay, I wanted to have Joe on here. I didn't play the thing that that he always he talks about helicopter pilots quite a bit in his other books. 403 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:26,000 He was did the narration for a for a a film called in the shadow of the blade and then there he talks about helicopters being a helicopter pilot especially being known as God's own lunatics. 404 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:33,000 And I kind of always appreciated that we're going to take a real quick break. 405 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:41,000 And when we come back, we're going to end our Memorial Day program with something special. We'll be right back. 406 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:45,000 This is Dirk Spelling. This is Eric Passley. This is Trace Atkins. We're a little big town. 407 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:50,000 The Rascal Flash. Hey, this is Jake Owen. This is Florida, Georgia line. Hi, my name is Justin Moore. 408 00:49:50,000 --> 00:50:03,000 Right now during this COVID-19 crisis, Fisher House is keeping families connected by providing Facebook portal TV stations to VA hospitals and converted to become homes away from home for VA healthcare workers. 409 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,000 Want to find out more? Go to fisherhouse.org. 410 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:14,000 If you have a VA claim denied by the Board of Veterans Appeals, contact legal help for veterans at 1-800-693-4800. 411 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:22,000 They're experts in handling cases before the U.S. Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims. Their number again, 1-800-693-4800. 412 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:36,000 Music plays. 413 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:43,000 All right. Some of you may be familiar with that tune. That is the song, Arlington. And we're going to go out on that today. 414 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:56,000 But I did want to just remind everybody that Memorial Day is to remember those men and women who did pay the ultimate price, ultimate price during their time in service. 415 00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:06,000 And so I did want to mention this little comment that someone sent me today that said that this Memorial Day, we remember those who sacrificed their lives for our freedom. 416 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:15,000 Our thoughts and prayers are with all of those who are grieving. May we, as Abraham Lincoln said at Gettysburg, highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain. 417 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:25,000 That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom and the government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from this earth. 418 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:31,000 And so we're going to end up playing the song Arlington by Trace Atkins. 419 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:38,000 And I'm going to, I'm watching the time go down here. And I want to thank everybody for listening today. 420 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:45,000 If you like the program, please send us a comment. Let us know exactly what you thought of the program, what you would like us to cover in the future. 421 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:54,000 I think that that's what's really important to you. So we will go now to that song and we'll play the song and then we're going to end up with taps. 422 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,000 So until next week, you are dismissed. 423 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:13,000 Music 424 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:19,000 I never thought that this is where I'd settle down. 425 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:34,000 I thought I'd die an old man back in my hometown. They gave me this plot of land. Me and some other men for a job well done. 426 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:41,000 There's a big white house sits on a hill just up the road. 427 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:56,000 The man inside he cried the day they brought me home. They folded up a flag and told my mom and dad, we're proud of your son. 428 00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:02,000 And I'm proud to be on this peaceful piece of property. 429 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:09,000 I'm on sacred ground and I'm in the best company. 430 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:15,000 I'm thankful for those thankful for the things I've done. 431 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:28,000 I can rest in peace. I'm one of the chosen ones. I made it to Arlington. 432 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:40,000 I remember that it brought me here when I was eight. We searched all day to find out where my granddad lay. 433 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:50,000 And when we finally found that cross and said, son, this is what it calls to keep us free. 434 00:53:50,000 --> 00:54:01,000 Now here I am a thousand storms away from him. He recognized me on the first day I came in. 435 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:11,000 And it gave me a chill when he clicked his heels and saluted me. 436 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:24,000 And I'm proud to be on this peaceful piece of property. I'm on sacred ground and I'm in the best company. 437 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:30,000 And I'm thankful for those thankful for the things I've done. 438 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:43,000 I can rest in peace. I'm one of the chosen ones. I made it to Arlington. 439 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:59,000 And every time I hear twenty-one guns, I know they brought another hero home to us. 440 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:18,000 I'm thankful for those thankful for the things I've done. 441 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:30,000 And we can rest in peace, because we are the chosen ones. We made it to Arlington. 442 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:49,000 Yeah, dust to dust, don't cry for us. We made it to Arlington. 443 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:43,000 Yeah, dust to dust, don't cry for us. We made it to Arlington. 444 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:13,000 Granger for the ones who get it done.