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I 00:02:33.729 --> 00:02:35.530 have written hundreds of history articles on 00:02:35.530 --> 00:02:38.789 various subjects, curated local history exhibits, 00:02:38.909 --> 00:02:41.250 and lectured on such subjects as architecture, 00:02:42.069 --> 00:02:44.330 engineering, surveying, and early Native Americans. 00:02:44.949 --> 00:02:47.310 My interest in military science stems from my 00:02:47.310 --> 00:02:51.590 service as a USA Air Force veteran and a keen 00:02:51.590 --> 00:02:54.009 interest in specialized subculture, language, 00:02:54.629 --> 00:02:56.650 and professional experience in communicating 00:02:56.650 --> 00:03:01.439 technical information. Joe, what military slang 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:04.699 term are you going to explain to us today? Today's 00:03:04.699 --> 00:03:07.199 term is sort of interesting. It's called a cup 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:12.300 of Joe, which commonly describes a cup of coffee. 00:03:13.020 --> 00:03:15.219 There is a great body of historical information 00:03:15.219 --> 00:03:18.159 pointing to a military origin for this term. 00:03:19.419 --> 00:03:21.759 As the story goes, the phrase has been in wider 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:25.159 use since World War I, and that the original 00:03:25.159 --> 00:03:29.159 term coined by sailors in the US Navy was actually 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:33.620 a cup of Joseph Daniels. It was meant by Swabies 00:03:33.620 --> 00:03:37.139 as an insult to leadership. Over time it became 00:03:37.139 --> 00:03:42.219 simply a cup of Joe. Josephus Daniels was secretary 00:03:42.219 --> 00:03:45.180 to the U .S. Navy under President Woodrow Wilson. 00:03:46.300 --> 00:03:48.580 Looking to impose stricter moral standards on 00:03:48.580 --> 00:03:53.360 naval life, he made changes in 1914 by increasing 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:56.740 the number of chaplains cracking down on prostitution 00:03:56.740 --> 00:04:00.960 and naval bases and banning alcohol. In his biography 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:05.240 of Daniels, author Lee A. Craig explains how 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:07.960 this last decision led to the creation of the 00:04:07.960 --> 00:04:13.979 slang term as a substitute, stewards increase 00:04:13.979 --> 00:04:15.960 their purchase of coffee, among other beverages, 00:04:16.180 --> 00:04:19.500 writes Craig in his book, Josephus Daniels, His 00:04:19.500 --> 00:04:23.360 Life and Times. This term's origin crediting 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:26.600 Daniels as its detractors among some historians 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:29.279 who have a theory that coffee became known as 00:04:29.279 --> 00:04:32.980 Joe because Joe itself is a slang term for a 00:04:32.980 --> 00:04:36.500 common fellow guy or chap. So this common Joe 00:04:36.500 --> 00:04:39.279 leaves you it up to you to do further research 00:04:39.279 --> 00:04:43.120 with your friends over a cup of Joe. Hey, thanks 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:45.839 Joe and I think I'm gonna go get a cup of coffee 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:49.819 and I think I think we all learned to drink that 00:04:49.819 --> 00:04:53.279 You know hot black awful coffee somewhere in 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:56.300 the military So thanks for thanks for giving 00:04:56.300 --> 00:04:59.579 us a little history lesson today. You bet Hey, 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:02.000 Joe, what military slang term do you have for 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:06.259 us today? Today's military slang turn is Mustang. 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:10.480 No, we are not talking about a sporty car Mustang 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:13.500 is a military slang term used in the US Armed 00:05:13.500 --> 00:05:16.819 Services that refers to a commissioned officer 00:05:16.819 --> 00:05:21.160 who began his or her career as an enlisted, non 00:05:21.160 --> 00:05:24.720 -commissioned service person prior to being commissioned 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:28.439 as an officer. Mustang officers are generally 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:31.180 older and theoretically more experienced than 00:05:31.180 --> 00:05:33.959 their peers in grade who have entered the military 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:37.639 via commissioning from one of the service academies, 00:05:37.779 --> 00:05:41.199 according to Wikipedia. The original definition 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:43.540 of Mustang was a military officer who had earned 00:05:43.540 --> 00:05:46.379 a battlefield commission. They were especially 00:05:46.379 --> 00:05:48.939 prevalent during World War II and the Korean 00:05:48.939 --> 00:05:53.300 War. A Mustang is characterized by former enlisted 00:05:53.300 --> 00:05:56.879 service prior to transitioning to officer rank. 00:05:57.519 --> 00:05:59.879 As a military slang term, there is no official 00:05:59.879 --> 00:06:02.899 U .S. government definition or set of criteria 00:06:02.899 --> 00:06:05.519 to determine which officer can properly be called 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:09.420 a Mustang. As the term varies in usage and criteria, 00:06:09.660 --> 00:06:13.439 from service to service. By the end of World 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:17.680 War II, it was understood across the armed services 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:21.379 that a Mustang was an officer with service in 00:06:21.379 --> 00:06:25.560 the enlisted ranks before commissioning. The 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:28.740 slang term refers to the Mustang horse, a feral 00:06:28.740 --> 00:06:31.800 or wild animal and therefore not a thoroughbred. 00:06:33.019 --> 00:06:35.759 A Mustang after being captured can be tamed and 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:38.189 saddle broke but it always has a bit of wild 00:06:38.189 --> 00:06:41.449 streak and can periodically revert to its old 00:06:41.449 --> 00:06:45.129 ways unexpectedly, and therefore the owner needs 00:06:45.129 --> 00:06:48.589 to keep an eye on it at all times. However, since 00:06:48.589 --> 00:06:51.629 a Mustang was formerly a wild and free animal, 00:06:52.310 --> 00:06:55.569 it may be very well be more smarter, more capable, 00:06:55.629 --> 00:06:59.170 and have better survival instinct than the thoroughbreds. 00:06:59.930 --> 00:07:02.509 A notable Mustang officer was William McKinley, 00:07:02.930 --> 00:07:07.370 1843 to 1901. He enlisted as a private in the 00:07:07.370 --> 00:07:11.329 Union Army in 1861. Promoted to the rank of Sergeant, 00:07:11.790 --> 00:07:14.389 he then received a battlefield commission for 00:07:14.389 --> 00:07:18.089 valor under fire at the Battle of Antietam, and 00:07:18.089 --> 00:07:21.290 mustered out of the Army as a Major. Subsequently, 00:07:21.370 --> 00:07:24.170 he became the 25th President of the United States. 00:07:25.509 --> 00:07:28.170 Other noteworthy Mustangs were Audie Murphy, 00:07:28.689 --> 00:07:33.350 1925 -1971. He was the most decorated soldier 00:07:33.350 --> 00:07:36.680 of World War II. Staff Sergeant Murphy received 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:42.220 a battlefield commission in France in 1944. Subsequently, 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:44.879 he became an actor. He received the Medal of 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:47.439 Honor and later held a major's commission in 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:50.759 the U .S. National Guard. Another famous Mustang 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:55.220 was Chuck Yeager, 1923 to 2020. He just died 00:07:55.220 --> 00:07:57.860 last year. He enlisted in the U .S. Army Air 00:07:57.860 --> 00:08:01.639 Forces in 1941 and began as an aircraft mechanic. 00:08:02.220 --> 00:08:04.540 He soon entered pilot training and served as 00:08:04.540 --> 00:08:08.019 an officer upon receiving his wings. He later 00:08:08.019 --> 00:08:10.639 earned a commission as a second lieutenant and 00:08:10.639 --> 00:08:13.379 was a noted combat pilot during World War II 00:08:13.379 --> 00:08:16.180 and as a test pilot during the post -war area. 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:20.040 To include being the first to successfully exceed 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:22.720 the speed of sound, he retired from the U .S. 00:08:22.779 --> 00:08:28.000 Air Force as a brigadier general in 1975. Another 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:32.289 famous Mustang that we can recall from recent 00:08:32.289 --> 00:08:36.090 political discussions is Tulsi Gabbard born in 00:08:36.090 --> 00:08:39.429 1981, currently a major in the Hawaiian National 00:08:39.429 --> 00:08:41.950 Guard and representing the second congressional 00:08:41.950 --> 00:08:44.009 district in the U .S. House of Representatives. 00:08:45.190 --> 00:08:47.769 She enlisted as a medical specialist with the 00:08:47.769 --> 00:08:51.269 29th Infantry Brigade Support Battalion of the 00:08:51.269 --> 00:08:54.350 Hawaiian National Guard serving a 12 -month deployment 00:08:54.350 --> 00:08:58.549 in Iraq in 2004. Commissioned as an officer in 00:08:58.549 --> 00:09:02.279 March 2007, She's then deployed to Iraq for a 00:09:02.279 --> 00:09:05.220 second tour of duty with the 29th Brigade Special 00:09:05.220 --> 00:09:08.700 Troops Battalion of the Hawaii Army National 00:09:08.700 --> 00:09:12.379 Guard as the military police platoon leader in 00:09:12.379 --> 00:09:16.799 January 2019. In January 2019, she began a campaign 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:19.740 for U .S. President. So let's give a veterans 00:09:19.740 --> 00:09:22.419 radio salute to all of our Mustangs, past, present, 00:09:22.580 --> 00:09:25.669 and future. You know Joe I've known a lot of 00:09:25.669 --> 00:09:28.129 Mustangs a lot of them muster out as majors because 00:09:28.129 --> 00:09:30.230 they have their time in and both enlisted in 00:09:30.230 --> 00:09:33.129 an officer corps and they hit the 25 year mark 00:09:33.129 --> 00:09:36.470 but everybody who I ever have known who's been 00:09:36.470 --> 00:09:39.370 a Mustang is Pretty damn proud of it and they 00:09:39.370 --> 00:09:42.389 should be shouldn't they? Absolutely, absolutely 00:09:42.389 --> 00:09:44.669 Joe. Thanks for bringing us this information 00:09:44.669 --> 00:09:51.309 today Hey, Joe, what military slang term are 00:09:51.309 --> 00:09:54.159 you gonna explain to us today? Well, Jim, today's 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:57.940 military subject is dog tags. Dog tag is an informal 00:09:57.940 --> 00:10:01.080 term for a specific type of identification tag 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:05.600 worn by military personnel. The tags' primary 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:08.159 use is for the identification of casualties. 00:10:09.379 --> 00:10:11.899 As such, they have information about the personnel 00:10:11.899 --> 00:10:15.000 written on them and convey essential basic medical 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:18.240 information such as blood type and history of 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:21.779 inoculations. They often indicate religious preferences 00:10:21.779 --> 00:10:26.870 as well. Dog tags are usually made of a corrosion 00:10:26.870 --> 00:10:30.070 resistant metal. They commonly contain two copies 00:10:30.070 --> 00:10:33.129 of the information either in the form of a single 00:10:33.129 --> 00:10:36.330 tag that can be broken in half or as two identical 00:10:36.330 --> 00:10:40.889 tags on the same chain. This purposeful duplication 00:10:40.889 --> 00:10:44.330 allows one tag or half tag to be collected from 00:10:44.330 --> 00:10:47.029 a personnel's deceased body for notification 00:10:47.029 --> 00:10:50.250 while the duplicate remains with the body if 00:10:50.250 --> 00:10:52.799 the conditions of battle prevented from being 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:55.980 immediately recovered. The term arose and became 00:10:55.980 --> 00:10:59.159 popular because of the tags resemblance to animal 00:10:59.159 --> 00:11:03.899 registration tags. The earliest mention of an 00:11:03.899 --> 00:11:06.620 identification tag for soldiers comes to us from 00:11:06.620 --> 00:11:09.220 the ancient Spartans who wrote their names on 00:11:09.220 --> 00:11:12.759 sticks tied to their left wrists. Additionally, 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:15.620 the Romans had a specific kind of soldier identification 00:11:15.620 --> 00:11:19.879 at the moment of enrollment. The legionary identification 00:11:19.879 --> 00:11:22.720 was a lead disc with a leather string worn around 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:25.820 the neck with the name of the recruit and the 00:11:25.820 --> 00:11:30.159 indication of the legion of which he was accrued 00:11:30.159 --> 00:11:33.039 part of. During the American Civil War, some 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:35.340 soldiers pinned paper notes with their names 00:11:35.340 --> 00:11:38.340 and home addresses to the backs of their coats. 00:11:39.139 --> 00:11:42.500 Other soldiers stenciled identification on their 00:11:42.500 --> 00:11:46.240 knapsacks or scratched it in the soft lead backing 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:49.679 of their military belt buckle. Manufacturers 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:53.019 of identification badges, good old Yankee ingenuity, 00:11:53.639 --> 00:11:56.100 recognized the market and began advertising in 00:11:56.100 --> 00:11:59.039 periodicals. Their pins were usually shaped to 00:11:59.039 --> 00:12:01.840 suggest a branch of service and agree with the 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:05.320 soldier's name and unit. Machine stamp tags were 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:09.759 also made of brass or lead with a hole and usually 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:13.799 had on one side an eagle or shield and such phrases 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:17.580 as war for the union or liberty, union and equality. 00:12:18.250 --> 00:12:20.929 The other side had the soldier's name and unit, 00:12:21.370 --> 00:12:23.950 and sometimes a list of battles in which he had 00:12:23.950 --> 00:12:27.710 participated. The U .S. Army first authorized 00:12:27.710 --> 00:12:30.389 identification tags in War Department General 00:12:30.389 --> 00:12:35.850 Order No. 204 dated December 20, 1906, which 00:12:35.850 --> 00:12:39.529 essentially prescribed basic information. It 00:12:39.529 --> 00:12:42.529 was dubbed the Kennedy Identification Tag, named 00:12:42.529 --> 00:12:45.889 after Brigadier General Kennard R. Will Wiggins, 00:12:45.889 --> 00:12:49.840 Jr. The U .S. Army changed regulations on July 00:12:49.840 --> 00:12:53.659 6, 1916, so that all soldiers were issued two 00:12:53.659 --> 00:12:56.779 tags, one to stay with the body and the other 00:12:56.779 --> 00:12:59.460 to go to the person in charge of the burial for 00:12:59.460 --> 00:13:03.240 record -keeping purposes. In 1918, the U .S. 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:05.460 Army adopted and allotted the service number 00:13:05.460 --> 00:13:08.139 system, and the name and service numbers were 00:13:08.139 --> 00:13:12.539 already stamped on the identification tags. In 00:13:12.539 --> 00:13:14.879 closing, most military veterans, even when the 00:13:14.879 --> 00:13:17.899 tags were eventually lost, permits misplaced, 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:20.440 still remember their service number because of 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:22.940 the tags we had hanging around our necks for 00:13:22.940 --> 00:13:25.860 years. Mine was Joe Nussendorfer, United States 00:13:25.860 --> 00:13:32.220 Air Force, number 17587039 and I'm signing off. 00:13:33.019 --> 00:13:35.139 Joe, thanks for that information and I gotta 00:13:35.139 --> 00:13:37.379 say if you, you know, if you've got to rummaging 00:13:37.379 --> 00:13:40.490 around don't lose your dog tags and don't lose 00:13:40.490 --> 00:13:42.909 your grandfather's dog tags or your father's 00:13:42.909 --> 00:13:46.529 dog tags. My dad was a Navy vet in World War 00:13:46.529 --> 00:13:50.730 II and we were just going through some of his 00:13:50.730 --> 00:13:53.549 materials and we found his dog tag, which doesn't 00:13:53.549 --> 00:13:56.889 look like anything like the dog tags, shape, 00:13:57.330 --> 00:14:01.129 color of today. And that's what kind of makes 00:14:01.129 --> 00:14:05.149 it so special. They are unique historical family 00:14:05.149 --> 00:14:08.129 records. It's absolutely true. So thanks for 00:14:08.129 --> 00:14:10.470 bringing us this information. I hope we've inspired 00:14:10.470 --> 00:14:13.809 some people to find and keep and display properly 00:14:13.809 --> 00:14:17.389 the dog tags that their families have earned. 00:14:19.029 --> 00:14:22.549 Thanks, Joe. I hope you enjoyed these military 00:14:22.549 --> 00:14:25.070 slang discussions. We're recording some more 00:14:25.070 --> 00:14:28.090 of them with our veterans radio historian Joe 00:14:28.090 --> 00:14:31.409 Neusendorfer. veteran from the United States 00:14:31.409 --> 00:14:34.769 Air Force and all -around good guy. So listen 00:14:34.769 --> 00:14:37.870 for some more of these in the future from Joe 00:14:37.870 --> 00:14:40.289 and thank you for listening to Veterans Radio. 00:14:41.250 --> 00:14:43.250 And I want to thank everybody for listening to 00:14:43.250 --> 00:14:46.750 Veterans Radio today. I am Jim Fossone. It's 00:14:46.750 --> 00:14:48.809 been a pleasure to be your host. I'm a veterans 00:14:48.809 --> 00:14:51.529 disability lawyer at Legal Help for Veterans 00:14:51.529 --> 00:14:58.659 and you can reach us at 800 -693 -4800. or LegalHelpForVeterans 00:14:58.659 --> 00:15:01.860 .com on the web. 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