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We want to welcome to Veterans Radio.

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In the spotlight this month as a member of the Association of Michigan Military Organizations,

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or AMO, the Michigan Heroes Museum, we're talking to its executive director, John Reiner.

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John, welcome to Veterans Radio again.

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Hello there.

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How are you doing today?

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We're doing great.

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We're glad to have you on.

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Just to remind our veteran radio listeners that Veterans Radio America has a partnership

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with AMO to bring you a quick look at Michigan Military Organizations that support the history

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of military service here in the state of Michigan.

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We encourage you to visit AMO on Facebook and this particular organization by visiting

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it this season.

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John, let's talk about what's sort of unique about the Michigan Heroes Museum in Frank &

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With the Michigan Heroes Museum, we tell the stories of over 850 Michigan servicemen, women,

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and astronauts.

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They're amazing stories, whether Al Warden from Apollo 15, the All University of Michigan

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flight crew, or Dwayne Hackney, the most decorated and listed airman ever, or Sergeant Major

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Ken Rice out of the Marine Corps, who was POW, captured in baton, and survived the second

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atomic bomb as he was in a coal mine working as a prisoner of war after the attack on Anagasaki.

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We've just got amazing stories of our individuals from throughout Michigan, whether they were

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born here, whether they just served at a base here, whether they lived in Michigan their

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whole life other than their service to our country, or maybe they just retired here.

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We tell the stories of those individuals and they are our truest heroes.

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In the Michigan Heroes Museum has a long history.

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Tell us how it started and how it got to where it is today.

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Sure.

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We've been in organization since November 1976, but the actual museum got started by

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an amazing guy, Navy, Stan Bozic, before he joined the Navy and served during Korea.

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He was actually starting maybe as early as 13 years old or so.

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He and his brothers walk up and down the alleyways in Detroit area, in Metro Detroit area, and

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see things that the World War II vets had brought home, whether it's their Navy duffels

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or whatever.

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Moms and wives were cleaning out the house and throwing that stuff away.

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These guys had picked it up in their little red wagon quite literally and go and knock

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on the door and try to find the servicemen or women that that belonged to and talk to

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them and try to get their stories.

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He really had a passion for that after he began to collect some of that stuff.

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The brothers, they all just realized that it's so much more than just a collection of

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This is their histories.

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It's an amazing part of world history that dovetails into specific Michigan personal

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histories.

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Well, it's one of those things when you go through a museum such as this, you realize

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what your friends and neighbors or maybe the grandparents of your friends and neighbors

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did in service of the country.

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It's really pretty surprising, isn't it?

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We've got so many stories that people come in here.

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We just had somebody come in here and recognize the last name is the same name as they had.

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They got just thinking and they said, well, boy, I bet you he's a second or third.

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A third cousin somewhere down the line.

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He started trying to track his history back to this particular individual.

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I'm confident that they're related somewhere.

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But yeah, it's just quite amazing when we get somebody in here from Luddington or LaVonia

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or Mackinaw or even above the Straits, they come in and they go, oh my gosh, you got somebody

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from our town represented or from our county.

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People that have served our country, even though we're less than 1% of the population

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serves nowadays today, they're still your hero next door.

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The people that you never knew served or maybe you knew they served, but you didn't know

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what they did.

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We may have stories of people that you know or actually from your neck of the woods here

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at our museum and I almost guarantee that we do.

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And you tell not only the stories of these men, primarily men, but men and women who

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served from all eras of combat, but you also tell their stories after they get out.

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There's a Medal of Honor recipient who went on to be a doctor who doesn't want to be known

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for what he did in the service, but he's a Medal of Honor recipient.

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He's the only Michigan Medal of Honor World War I out of the US Army.

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And as he was in service, he has a young first lieutenant.

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Here in the battle with a German French line, their unit, his captain is shot down in this

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And they're about 100 yards from the trench and he orders one of his grenade ears to crawl

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up through the barbed wire in the bomb craters and get as close as he can to the opposition

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trenches there and try to throw grenades into render neutral the four Maxim machine guns

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that they had set up above their trench.

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Over an hour or so, he gets close enough where he's able to start throwing the grenades

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and he pulls the pins and throws them and Harold Furlong is back, like I said, about

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100 yards away and he's watching as those foreign machine gunners in turn, those grenades

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are getting awful close.

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They stand up and jump down into the trenches so they can have more cover.

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And once the fourth guy jumped into the trench, he jumped up and started running towards

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Now, when he realized that the end of the trench wasn't too far away, he actually ran

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around the edge of the trench and he ran around behind the trench and he slid down there

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and he waited for those gunners to show back up.

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their Maxims and they started returning firing upon his men.

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behind them and he was able to work his way forward and fire four times, eliminating those

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men, those Germans that were manning those Maxims, they couldn't hear him.

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They were making too much noise themselves.

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And he then stood up and he walked to the edge of the trench and he pointed his rifle

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down the trench and those 20 men left in that trench all surrendered to that one man.

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But this is a great Medal of Honor story in a great Michigander who went on to become

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a medical doctor, delivered thousands of babies.

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And you tell that story and I want to get you to where I saw it because I think, tell

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us about how the last year, the pandemic has nudged, encouraged, forced the museum to get

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some of its stories out, its educational efforts out to a wider audience who couldn't visit

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during the last year.

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So we've tried Facebook Live videos.

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We've done some of that.

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We've done some YouTube videos where we've had actually Frank Beckman narrated the video

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that I believe you probably saw with stories of Christina Hammett Cook, our astronaut from

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the state of Michigan.

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They're currently serving most recent astronaut who went up into space, spent 11 months up

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there and was the longest female ever to fly American female to fly in space.

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And she was part of the first all female spacewalk where she and Jessica Meir both went out on

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a spacewalk together.

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We also told the story of Dwayne Hattney, the most decorated and listed airman, and

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Christina Hammett Cook.

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We got a grant from a local service organization where they underwrote the cost for doing that

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video.

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They also allowed us to offer that video to classrooms and others that wanted to see what

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it is that we have here at the museum and maybe try to teach some of the lessons we teach

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in the museum without being able to visit the museum.

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Well, the Michigan's Heroes Museum has been operating since 1976.

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They had a couple of name changes over time, but it's always been housed in the greater

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Frankenmuth area.

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So if you're going up to Frankenmuth, build in time to stop into the museum.

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We're talking to its executive director, John Reidner.

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John, tell folks what your website is.

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So our website is www.miheros.org, so MyHeroes.org with the Mi being the Mi of Michigan.

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John, there are 850 stories here.

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When people come in and you get back to, maybe it's next year when schools can come back

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in and do classroom tours, what are some of the favorite things that they like to see

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and do?

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So I think what people are drawn to about our museum is that we tell their stories about

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them, right?

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So you can go to nearly any museum and you can find out information on weapons.

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You can find out information on weapons platforms and tanks and planes and living conditions

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and battles and things like that.

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We tell those stories, but only as they relate to a Michigan service man or woman.

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So the way the story is told is a little different than most museums.

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Grass Lake Museum also does a little bit.

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I mean, they do a lot of storytelling also like we do, but those type of military museums

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are really rare.

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Most of the times you hear and see the things that were used and people are just starting

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to understand that the individual histories are what's really important.

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So we've made sure that that's our number one focus.

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We've got items around the museum that we don't label because we want people looking

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at the individual stories.

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Well you've got a great executive board and board members at large and advisory board

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members and staff.

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I mean, it's really well run organization.

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But tell us why this kind of regional museum is important to, you know, or should be important

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to the younger generation?

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Well, you know, as people nowadays, like I mentioned earlier, only approximately 1% of

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the people serve.

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And a lot of people, you know, their grandfather served, their grandmothers maybe, great-grandfathers

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and things like that, they themselves hadn't served.

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And they hadn't had the ability to understand what that service means.

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What we'd like to do, and the rest of the ammo museums also would like to do, is let

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people know what it is that people that had served had went through, whether they're going

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up and touring the USS Henson, or they're over in Grasslake or East Point or over in

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Jackson or Muskegon, that they can go to a local military museum there and they can learn

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about just a little segment about what the service men and women that they know may have

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went through and a little bit about their experience.

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So we've got some amazing military museums here in Michigan.

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And that's the reason why AMO is just such a unique organization where we've all decided

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to work together in order to tell these stories and make sure that these histories are not

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forgotten.

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Well, it's so important and nowadays there's just not enough time, whether it's in grade

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school or high school, to teach this history.

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And even in college there's not these kind of history programs that really tell what

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service is about and what the sacrifices that these Michigan residents went through, whether

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it be in Korea, Vietnam, World War II, World War I.

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Is the museum also beginning to think about how it displays and tells the stories of Michiganders

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who've been over in the Gulf Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan?

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Yeah, so we do have a war on terror gallery.

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Kind of interesting.

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We're just now starting to get the stories of the Vietnam veterans.

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It took them over 50 years to realize that, hey, you know what?

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What I did was important also.

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Most of those individuals until the last five years or so, they didn't think they were deserving.

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And that's what we're finding with our war on terror stories right now.

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Most of the people that have served, they say, hey, you know what?

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You got up the real heroes, the people who perished in the line of duty.

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Those stories are the ones that need to be told.

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But I don't care if you're a clerk typist or a cook or frontline battle company or just

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what, guess what?

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We want to tell your story here because there are so many people that have served that you

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will represent.

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And your story will dovetail with theirs.

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And so many families that can learn about people's service through your story that we

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would love to tell it here at our museum.

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Well, I think that's a great point because so many of us serve.

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But we're not at the tip of the spear.

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We're a support team.

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We're logistics.

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We were the ship drivers as the Marines called the Navy.

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Or the flying the planes.

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So all those stories are important because it also educates the families of the kids

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who want to join the service.

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Maybe that's what my kid wants to do.

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He wants to be a drone piloter and cyber intelligence.

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And he's going to be fine.

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He's not going to be at the tip of the spear.

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So those are great stories to tell.

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But this isn't easy to do and it isn't easy to keep it alive as long as you have up in

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Frank and Muth.

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John, how is this funded?

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So we are funded exclusively private donations and corporate donations right now.

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We don't receive any state monies currently.

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And not that we wouldn't.

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We just don't.

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And we appreciate the individuals that support our museum, understand what it is that we're

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doing and help us out as well as every ammo organization.

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I'll tell you what, there's no museum that's going to make it unless they're subsidized

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somehow.

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And you're never going to make it on just your admission.

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So our subsidies come from our loyalist fans and the individuals who understand what it

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is that we're doing and want to help us continue the legacy that we've begun here.

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And we're talking to John Ryder, who's the executive director of Michigan Heroes Museum

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up in Frank and Muth, Michigan.

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John, if somebody's out there and says, man, this is a worthy cause, I'd like to support

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it a little bit.

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Maybe it's a business in a corporation who says, I want to get behind this a little bit.

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How do they do that?

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So they can call me directly at the museum at 989-652-8005.

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I'll give that number again here in just a little bit.

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But they can also go to our website and we have a little information there about donating.

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And once again, that's at www.miheroes.org or like I said, call me at 989-652-8005.

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My name is John Ryder.

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And I'll be glad to help talk to you and we'll see if we can work together.

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And the same is true with individual stories.

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If somebody has a story they'd like us to tell here at the museum.

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We would be glad to tell the stories of Michigan servicemen and women.

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And we're always on the lookout for new stories that we can tell.

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And so if you know a veteran or you have a family member that served and that stuff is

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no better hands than with the family, right?

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That story is loved and cherished by them.

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But eventually the family generally will lose touch with great-grandfather or something.

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Maybe not understand the story as much as the earlier generations had.

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And that's where the museum can come in and help make sure that story never gets lost.

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That's right.

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It should not be forgotten.

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And the Michigan Heroes Museum is a 501C3.

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So if you'd like to donate, give John a call at the museum or go to the website and reach

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out there.

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John, as we come to the end here, as people begin thinking about, hey, I want to do something

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this spring.

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You know, the family has been vaccinated.

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We want to do a day field trip, something like that.

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Is the museum open?

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Tell us what spring and summer looks like for the museum.

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Yeah, so we've been open since early June last year when the governor opened back up

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the state.

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We've remained open since then.

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And we absolutely would love to have your family or your group stop into the museum

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where we will happily greet you, tell you a little bit about the museum, allow you to

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explore it yourself or accompany you as you go through the museum.

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And we just ask that everybody follows whatever is recommended at the state by at the time

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that you stop in.

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I know the governor has laid out a plan for relaxing the regulatory restrictions.

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And we're going to comply with what we're asked to do.

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And we're also going to ask that our public visitors remain just as safe as they can and

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that they don't get themselves and their loved ones sick as well.

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Well this is one of these steps that on something like TripAdvisor gets five stars all the time.

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And you can bribe the rest of the family, maybe with some chicken or with some Christmas

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decorations.

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But make sure you stop in at Michigan Heroes Museum.

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John Reiner, Executive Director, we want to thank you for spending a little time with

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us today on Veterans Radio.

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Thank you.

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And I want to thank everybody for listening to Veterans Radio today.

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I am Jim Fausone.

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It's been a pleasure to be your host.

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I'm a Veterans Disability Lawyer at Legal Help for Veterans.

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And you can reach us at 800-693-4800 or legalhelpforveterans.com on the web.

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You can follow Veterans Radio on Facebook and listen to its podcasts and internet radio

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shows by going to veteransradio.net.

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And until next time, you are dismissed.

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If you have a VA claim denied by the Board of Veterans Appeals, contact Legal Help for

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Veterans at 1-800-693-4800.

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There are experts in handling cases before the U.S. Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims.

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The number again, 1-800-693-4800.

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We again want to thank our national sponsors, the National Veterans Business Development

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Council, NVBDC.org, the U.S. Small Business Administration Veterans Business Outreach

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Center, Eisenhower Center, VA Ann Arbor Health Care System, the Vietnam Veterans of America

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Charles S. Kettles Chapter, Ann Arbor, Michigan, VFW Graf O'Hara Post 423 in Ann Arbor, and

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the American Legion Press Corn Post 46 also in Ann Arbor.

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They keep us on the air as does your support.

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Go to Facebook, go to VeteransRadio.net, and support our efforts.

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And until next time, you are dismissed.

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