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So, we are going to talk about the wave of colds.
I don't know about you guys, but I have been having a cold for several weeks now.
And I have the perception that there are more colds, colds, colds, and more people sick.
And that they are lasting a little longer.
So, we have statistics.
The Mexican Institute of Social Security in Mexico says that the problem with the cold is that the cold is not a problem.
The Mexican Institute of Social Security in Mexico says that the problem with the cold is a very important problem.
Because of the people who fell hospitalized in 2022, 22% of hospitalized adults are due to colds.
And 40% of the minors in the hospital fell due to colds.
And in 2022, according to the Mexican Ministry of Health, 16 million Mexicans had acute colds.
At a global level, the issue is important.
Because the World Health Organization says that between 280,000 and 360,000 people die every year
due to respiratory diseases related to the cold.
And today, from a scientific point of view, with doctors, we are going to talk about how serious a cold can be.
The topic of today's program is that we should be clear about how to take care of ourselves, how to prevent and treat a cold
so that it does not get complicated.
Because there are two extremes.
The one that says, I'm not going to the doctor and I don't take anything but grandmother's remedies.
And you put tea and honey with lemon and a ball of Menjurges, which everyone recommends you take when you are sick.
Or those who do not go to the doctor and get some pills, some terrible auto-dopades, even antibiotics are put into the minor provocation.
Well, today we will have with us, precisely, who is going to give us light on this issue.
Dr. María de la Luz Hortensia, graduate of UNAM as a surgeon and has a speciality in pediatric surgery,
a sub-speciality in allergy and clinical immunology.
And we will talk about viral infections, bacterial infections, the difference between an allergy and an infection, precisely.
And Dr. Paloma de la Fuente, graduate of the Medicine degree from the Baja California Autonomous University,
a graduate in bariatric nutrition, who will tell us how food and lifestyle can help us prevent the flu
and also reduce the episodes of allergy or even improve faster.
And if that's not enough, one of the best chefs in Mexico who has received the Bienfez Award for two years as Best Chef in Healthy Cuisine,
will also be with us celebrating our start to give us advice.
And we have with us the beautiful chef Natalia Delgado, very beautiful, very well known in the media to tell us how to cook delicious, healthy and cheap.
Well, we open the conversation in our confessional, if you go to marcoantoniorregil.com, diagonal formula,
the question of today is, this year have you had a cold that lasts more than seven days?
Yes, no, or do you live with colds?
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to get out of these respiratory diseases and to understand what are the myths and truths about this topic.
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Dear body, it is convenient for me to take care of you, dear body,
because it is the one that takes me to do all the activities and all the dreams of my life.
And today in this premiere I have the pleasure of welcoming,
we said, what super expert can we bring that gives us clarity?
Because there are myths and misunderstandings in social networks and in families.
When you get sick from something respiratory,
above all, everyone has a solution to give you.
And for me there is nothing better than talking to an expert who, based on science,
will tell us how to take care of ourselves, how to prevent, how to take care of ourselves,
how to solve, how to survive this time of flu, of cold that we are living.
And we received today our first guest.
Let's give a round of applause to our first guest.
Thank you very much.
Our godmother.
Our godmother is Dr. Maria de la Luz Hortensia.
She is a surgeon doctor graduated in pediatric medicine with a specialization in allergy and immunology and also a neomologist.
Where else?
From the ladies and gentlemen of the National Autonomous University of Mexico.
Is it Puma?
Exactly.
Puma.
Well, then welcome, Dr. thanks for being here.
Thank you very much and congratulations for the program.
The truth is that you are going to do it very well.
Thanks.
Well, with the help of the experts we are going to do it.
Hey, doctor, I am hallucinating if it is popular belief that we are worse in issues of catharsis and coughs
or if something different is happening this year.
No, something different is happening.
In the surveys of the health secretary,
she mentions that in the third week, which is the first week of February, we have accumulated 58,000 cases of respiratory infections.
Generally, we have 5,000, 6,000 infections a month.
And right now we have 58,000.
That is a huge jump.
It is a lot.
But why is this happening?
Because we come from a pandemic.
When it came to a pandemic, obviously everyone was locked up and no one lived with their...
With the doctor or the environment.
With their same partner, right?
As a child, right?
Five years old, no one went to school, everyone was online
and then they did not live with viral infections, with bacterial infections,
which gives them immunity to reinforce themselves and not get sick.
The natural vaccine.
Not severe, not so intense.
Of course. It is the natural vaccine.
Being exposed to the environment is what makes us develop antibodies and resistance.
And we did not do it.
So now we have a weakened immune system?
Deficient.
Deficient because it is not active against everything that should be active.
Generally, respiratory infections in children under the age of five years old are very common
and when they did not go to school, they did not live with those respiratory infections.
And obviously the immune system does not know it.
And adults are also not getting it?
Exactly. Adults, as they locked themselves in their homes and now there are more home offices,
they do not live in transport or anything and neither do adults.
The home office can also be affecting.
Exactly, because everything we live is part of our immunity.
You see, we are going to close the home office in my work team.
It is for their health, I will tell you.
When they claim that the traffic is for your health.
It is for your health, it is for your health.
Live with bugs.
And apart from something very important, everyone thinks after this pandemic that it is COVID.
And no, the respiratory viruses did not go on vacation.
Generally, today, in statistics, only 130 cases of COVID are reported.
They are not so many, they are more respiratory infections, by influence, parainfluenza, metanemovirus
and sometimes the infections are by two or three viruses.
Two or three viruses come together?
Yes, and that is why the infections are much more severe.
What I was going to ask you is, is this also happening that lasts longer?
I mean, my work team is saying, is that now they last longer, they last longer.
I bring a cough right now, I hope it does not cough a lot in the program,
but it will be for more than two weeks.
I mean, it is normal for them to start to last two, three, four, this one, here in one of our producers.
It has been two months with a cough that does not go away.
Holy cough, exactly. Is this normal, doctor?
Well, the truth is that right now, the infections, as they are so intense and affect the respiratory tract,
generally they come to present viral infections, congestion, cough, sneezing, headache, body pain, fever,
which generally limit themselves to seven days or up to 15 days.
If, for example, we have a constant cough, a constant cough, that the cough turns green, they go to the doctor.
It is not a simple flu, which is something very important.
It is always important to go to the doctor, but generally, we Mexicans, I have a small flu, I am not going to the doctor.
And I take something, which is something wrong, because generally it self-limits itself.
Sorry to be so graphic, but you mentioned it, green cough to transparent cough, there is a difference.
A lot. Generally, it starts with transparent cough and then it becomes green when infected by bacteria.
Generally, when we have bacteria, our head hurts, this part of the body hurts, we have a lot of green cough,
the fever is no longer there, but we have a feeling of heaviness when, for example, we get sinusitis,
which is when a viral infection is complicated, it can be complicated by a sinusitis.
And if, for example, you persist with this, with transparent cough, with nose infection, with eyes infection, it is already an allergy.
Well, we are going to talk about this in the next segment, how to distinguish the allergy from the flu.
And it is said flu, flu is the right word.
Flu is the right word?
I did not know that, I thought it was flu.
Well, one of the main problems that arise, and we will talk about it later, Dr. Paloma,
is that our reaction is usually extreme.
If you have a flu, a cough, then I do not go to the doctor.
Then I either self-medicate or I do not take anything, which are the extremes.
That is something very important.
Today, for example, viral infections can cause pneumonia or can cause bronchial hyperactivity.
Why? Because they are much more severe.
So we have to be careful with small children.
When I get to have a cough that lasts more than three or four days, please take us to the doctor.
Because they get to have bronchial hyposomnia, which are patients who are small and are breathing quickly,
or they are patients who better sit down, who are preschool children or school children.
No, I do not want to play. Why?
Because when he runs, he coughs, because he thinks about hyperactivity, because he comes with a cough,
and that is a secondary response to the viral infection, to the inflammation that we had.
So let's see, let it be very clear, adults or children, how many days do you feel that it is convenient for me to go to the doctor?
If we have a cough for more than four days and thoracic opression, go to the doctor.
More than four days.
More than four days. If before those four days we have opression or you start to hear a whistle, go to the doctor.
If we have a lot of congestion to the salt, which does not improve over time, and the mucus turns green, go to the doctor.
If I am coughing and green mucus starts to come out, go to the doctor.
If it comes out green, go to the doctor.
Exactly, because we have to see specifically if the accumulated mucus really already has an infection.
Because an accumulated mucus for more than six hours turns green.
An accumulated mucus for more than six hours turns green. Why does it turn green?
Because of the bacteria that are there, so the color changes due to the proteins that it has.
I understand. I am accusing myself that I did not go to the doctor and I did have a mucus green.
What would you say to people who have the same situation as me in the last few weeks?
That we are so busy, we are working, and at what time am I going to the doctor?
What time do I call him? He gives me an appointment, I have to go to work.
What would you tell those of us who stop going to the doctor because we are super busy?
It is not because we want to hurt ourselves, it is because we are really at the top.
How are you going to cancel a meeting? How are you going to cancel the work trip?
Well, maybe I will go to the internet.
Telemedicine.
Telemedicine, of course, because that is very useful. I use it a lot.
And the patients who have cough, we can have a specific treatment for them,
because if not, the cough, as it has happened to many, it lasts a long time.
So, in telemedicine, yes, there are more and more doctors who have stopped seeing patients in person
and are doing pure telemedicine.
Yes, when there is an emergency, we can see it in telemedicine.
We ask specific questions.
Does he have a cough? Does he have a syphilis? When he runs, does he have a cough?
When he laughs, does he have a cough? When he climbs stairs, does he have a cough?
If he has any of those things, he has bronchial hyperactivity.
Now, not necessarily COVID, because right now you start to sneeze and cough,
and we all see each other as if you are infected, you have COVID.
I tell my patients, COVID will be like influenza.
It will always be with us and we have to get the vaccine.
Something very important is that very few cases here have had 130 cases in January positive COVID,
and the others have been influenza, metamoevirus, parainfluenza, respiratory disease, and rhinovirus.
These patients sometimes arrive, as they get so inflamed and have three viruses,
they arrive at the hospital for asthma, bronchial hyperactivity, or pneumonia.
Generally, children under the age of four or older than 65,
which are the weakest immunity that exists.
We are with Dr. Maria de la Luz Hortensia, graduate of UNAM,
and her specialty is pediatric surgery, and she has a specialty in allergy and immunology.
Immunology, immunologists, and neomologists both treat people with respiratory diseases.
Of course.
That's correct. And we are going to talk about the difference between an allergy and a flu.
Yes.
Let's talk about that.
For now, I want to invite you to go to marcoantoniorregil.com, diagonal formula,
and vote. Go to the confessional. Confess the truth.
This year, one of these flu or catharsis has already lasted more than seven days.
Yes or no, or yes, it is one of those third options for those who live with sneezes,
because there are people who live from flu to flu, from flu to flu.
We do not leave the same disease.
Later, we will talk about how to become partners in the program and the benefits they will have with us,
because we have beautiful things prepared for them.
and well, then we are, we take a break and return with more learning together about diseases that have to do with flu so that they do not complicate.
But, returning from a break, we will continue with Dr. María de la Luz Hortensia,
and we will also talk about the problem of self-medicating and taking antibiotics as less provocative as possible.
We return after a break.
And the conversation is live at MarcoAntonioRegil.com, diagonal, formula, and we will be back in a moment.
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Here I am seeing the results of the survey.
In today's confessional, the question is, have you had a cold that lasts more than seven days?
64% of people say yes, 29% say no, and a small percentage, 7% say they live, live sick, live with sneezes and coughs.
Well, today we are accompanied by Dr. Maria, here is her name, where did I leave the name?
Maria Delos Garcia.
Thank you, doctor, here it is, here I have it, it is in front of me, I am nervous because it is the first program.
Now I am going to invent all the papers.
Dr. Maria Delos Hortensia, pediatrician, allergologist and immunologist at the National Autonomous University of Mexico.
And now we are going to talk not only about the flu, we are talking about respiratory diseases, not only about the flu, but also about allergies.
How do I distinguish or what is the difference? I am not a doctor, I do not understand, how do I know if it is allergy or flu?
Well, something very important, I am going to make an explanation very quickly.
It is a cell that we have that has receptors and comes from what we are allergic to.
It enrages that cell and that cell releases substances that inflame eyes and gives us a
nose, frequent sneezing, nose cover, lung, cough, lack of air or thoracic pressure,
syphilis, skin, dermatitis, urticaria, lesions in folds or in the face and abdominal,
it can give us diarrhea, constipation, abdominal distension or influx increase.
Without it being COVID. Without it being COVID.
Because it gives me all that and I say, I got sick from COVID.
Exactly. And then something very important is that patients can have a presentation,
two, three or four or five presentations. They can only have the nose, nose and eyes,
which is very common, nose and lung or eyes and skin or everything.
So it is important that they see that sometimes I am congested and that congestion gives me
at a certain time of the day or at a certain time of the year, I do not know, November, December, January,
September, they pollinate trees.
Sure.
August, September pollinate weeds.
Sure.
So depending on what stage of the year we get sick, it is the probability that we can see that it pollinates.
Sure, for example, all the people who come to the Pacific, in Mexico, in Sonora, who make wheat or cotton,
they come to the harvest season, they put the pollen everywhere, but that is an allergy.
That is an allergy. When it lasts more than two weeks and it is seasonal, ask yourself if it is an allergy.
Or, for example, I arrive at the office and the air conditioning is there, it gives me congestion.
Or I go out, one of my patients closed, he lives in Chapultepec, he closed his house,
the windows, he sealed them, because every time he goes out, congestion, he has not put a knot,
I say, well, he cannot live like that. We are going to test him.
That is an interesting question. We are seeing the difference between flu and allergy.
Sure.
But does the climate have to do with the diseases?
Is it normal that there is cold in winter or is it a mental agreement that we have?
Everyone thinks that winter makes me worse.
catarrh is coming.
Yes, it is that the cold makes me worse.
But the truth is that when you do test cutaneous, it really is the pollen of the mill, the pollen of the oak,
and it is not the cold, but they pollinate at that time.
So it may be that it has nothing to do with the climate.
But if I can get sick, going back to the flu, if I can get cold, I got a cold, I went out,
son, cover yourself, cover yourself, son, you are going to get sick, what does your grandmother tell you?
For example, that is something very important.
If an allergic patient is poorly controlled, when the cold is exposed or any sudden change in temperature
or intense pollinations, they get worse.
But can I get sick from cold?
Well, yes, that is, the cold increases the cells, they do not move so well,
and it is likely that if we catch a virus from someone who is playing with us or from someone who is in an interview,
well, we get sick.
How does it look like you are a pediatrician?
Because it looks like someone is playing with us.
I imagine myself playing with us, I imagine the girlfriend, what are we playing here, doctor?
But you spoke of something important, in winter we usually close the windows,
we usually do not ventilate the house or the apartment.
Is that good for the allergy or for the flu or is it not so good to close windows and stay inside?
No, it is not good at all.
You have to ventilate the houses, open them approximately in the morning,
because something very important is that at 12 the pollination increases from 12 to 4 in the afternoon.
So it is convenient to open before 12 and after 12 for the allergic,
open all the time for those who are not allergic and have some viral infection.
Why? Because the virus stays there in the air and it is better that it comes out, that there is an important ventilation.
Something also important is that if the patient is sick, he generally has a cough,
and when he sleeps, the cough is there and generally the virus can stay there for up to 7 hours.
So you have to change the sheets and the pillow at least during the first 3 days of infection.
Every day that I am in bed, because if I am not doing my juice, I am a cough drop.
Yes, because you get sick in bed and I do not change my sheets, I live alone,
I imagine that I only have one game of sheets, I have to buy a second game of sheets.
I know I'm going to give you one.
A sheet and the desire to put it in the washing machine.
So you have to be undoing the bed, getting everything to wash and even if it is tedious,
you say that we burn wax, does that help you heal faster?
Can you get out of the flu faster?
Yes, because you do not have so much exposure to the virus again.
And then when you have the cough and we do nasal washes, that helps to drain the cough.
Sure, nasal washes in India and Asia are normal, they are part of the yoga practice.
The cups that they sell you, and you put what? Bicarbonate, right?
You put salt.
Salt, yes, right.
In a liter of water, salt, grain.
A coffee spoon of grain salt.
And it enters through the nose?
With a syringe of 10 ml or 20, we can wash our noses three times a day and this helps the virus not to stay here.
Of course.
It comes out and that helps it to have less temporality.
And you have to say it at the beginning, if you have never done it, you feel like you are going to drown or something because it is new.
But once you do it, you see that there is magic and it enters on one side and goes out on the other.
And it goes out on the other and without a problem.
And you are cleaning internally.
Yes, the virus is coming out that generally stays here with the mucus.
Ok, perfect. From your point of view, when you go to the doctor and you have a flu or allergy, they take away your milk.
I don't consume milk, but in general, I remember that when I consumed them, they took them away from me.
Milk causes more mucus? Why does the doctor take them away from you?
Well, there is no scientific evidence that causes more mucus.
But the people who eat a lot of milk, more than a liter of milk, generally produce more mucus.
So, number one, we don't eat the milk we eat.
It is generally very processed.
So we don't really take proteins and it is recommended not to eat industrialized things.
Why? Because it all starts from our microbiota.
Our microbiota are the little bugs that exist in the abdomen, in the stomach.
And those little bugs, depending on what we feed them, will cause an inflammatory or anti-inflammatory system.
If we feed them flour, ultra-processed products, or a lot of meat, obviously they will be inflamed.
If we feed them fish, vegetables, chicken, fruits, they will release anti-inflammatory substances.
So it is very important. We are what we eat, what we think and what we do.
So, something very important is to eat well since we were little.
Because in the first two years, the microbiotic footprint is generated.
And after the first two years, only 60% of the microbiota can be modified.
How interesting. The microbiotic footprint. Could you tell us a little more about that to understand it well?
The microbiotic footprint is what will produce your stomach from the bugs that already have memory.
The bugs in my stomach have memory.
Exactly. So what we feed them will generate inflammatory or anti-inflammatory substances.
So they will remember and reproduce, whether in inflammation or anti-inflammatory.
So what we do in the first two years of life is crucial for our life.
Okay, I understand.
So in the first two years of life, the children are not given sugars, everything is given naturally, nothing ultra-processed.
Fruits, vegetables, fish, chicken, well, the first year of life, milk, whether it is breastfeeding.
Breastfeeding. And there is a whole movement of lactivists who call for them to go back to breastfeeding.
But women who want to breastfeed but cannot and have to choose a formula, there are also formulas.
Yes, there will be to do with the pediatrician, but we choose a formula that is very similar.
Of quality. Exactly.
Because there are some that are half, like all products, there are some very dark and others much cleaner.
Exactly.
Hey, the time is running out, but the next segment is going to join the conversation, Dr. Paloma de la Fuente, who has studied the issue of nutrition a lot.
I would also like us to enter more into the issue of microbiota, the issue of food, that so much really, really is a myth or reality that the way you eat can help you prevent or cure an illness of this.
We are talking about flu or even allergies, affects or does not affect what I eat and which of these homemade remedies can really help and which are a myth.
And I would also like, well, we push it to the next segment, antibiotics.
We have talked about the medicines, there has been a rise, the Heraldo of Mexico published that in December 2023 they were selling 7 to 8 boxes in each pharmacy of anti-gripal medicine.
Dioral and now in January, well in January, there were 18 boxes, in February we do not have the data, but we will talk about that right now, going back to a small pause.
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Have you had a fever, flu, catheter that lasts more than 7 days? Yes or no? Or do you live like this?
We will return after a very short pause and we will continue here with Dr. María de la Luz Hortensia, pediatrician, allergologist, immunologist and the conversation is added by Dr. Paloma de la Fuente who is also an expert in nutrition.
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We are talking to our dear body, focusing on these flu that can last 7, 14 days, coughs like mine that I have been taking for more than two weeks and it does not go away.
We are talking to two experts, Dr. María de la Luz Hortensia, pediatrician, allergologist and immunologist, and our dear Dr. Paloma de la Fuente who is a graduate of Baja California University in Mexicali, Oseyes, Cachanilla.
She is a graduate of Baja California University in Mexicali, Oseyes, Cachanilla.
Thank you very much for the invitation. We are very happy to be here with you sharing this important topic.
We are very happy to be here with you sharing this important topic.