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Amas or controlas?

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That's the question we're going to ask today.

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I'll do it today, and I'll do it for everyone.

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And we have three wonderful experts who are going to talk about this.

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I'll tell you who the experts are in a moment.

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But what do I mean by amas or controlas?

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A lot of people will be watching or listening to us here on Telefórmula, Radio Fórmula,

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and they'll say, amas or controlas?

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Isn't it the same?

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Isn't it when I'm dating or I marry someone and I don't have a partner?

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Isn't it normal to control?

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Because it's mine or it's mine.

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That's what they say to me.

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I'm yours, I'm yours.

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So obviously if it's mine or mine, I'm going to control it.

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And who hasn't heard the friend or cousin or friend who says,

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oh, I have a beautiful partner, he loves me so much,

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he takes care of me, he goes for me, he lets me,

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he cares about me, he asks me where I was, with whom I was,

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at what time I was, he checks my cell phone to see if I have some messages

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and I need to answer.

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He advises me to stop following him on Instagram or Facebook.

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What's more, he tells me when I have someone who shouldn't be my friend or friend

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because friendships between men and women don't exist.

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What a beautiful partner I have.

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Is that love or control?

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Even the songs say it and we've normalized it.

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One of the songs I liked the most when I was little was this song,

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do you remember the group The Police?

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That song that was called Every Breath You Take?

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Let's remember it.

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There it is.

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Super success.

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Beautiful song, right?

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Let's remember in Spanish what the song said.

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It says, you don't see that you belong to me,

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how my poor heart hurts with every step you take,

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every move you make and every promise you break,

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every smile you make, I'll be watching you.

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I'll be watching you.

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It says, can you see that you belong to me?

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Don't you see that you belong to me?

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The music is beautiful.

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But the lyrics are a bit toxic, right?

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I mean, today we're going to ask our experts.

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Claudia Lobatón, psychologist, graduate of the University of Valle Campos,

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specializing in sexology and education at the Mexican Institute of Sexology,

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to tell us if love and control are the same thing or is it a distortion.

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We're also on the long list because we're joining the conversation.

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Adriana Renkin, writer and conferencing, has wonderful books.

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What's the name of the book that I like the most?

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There are some great ones, we're going to give away some books.

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And also from Mazatlán, Sinaloa, our dear Eugenia Flo,

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will be with us, she's a sexologist, graduate of the Institute of Sexology in Madrid, Spain,

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and she's going to tell us how through sex,

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from the cuchicuchi or sex, sometimes the couple is controlled.

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I want you or I won't give you or even when you make decisions to have children.

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It's not that strong, there's going to be a very, very interesting conversation.

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So I think it's good for you to stay with us on Telefórmula, Radiofórmula,

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there you can follow us. Stay with us.

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I think the conversation will be excellent.

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Amas or controlas.

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Here's the applause from the audience.

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Amas or controlas.

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There are several who go in the car driving and go,

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uh, amo or controlo.

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Remember another little roll?

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Today we're going to be remembering some little rolls

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that have made us normalize this thing that loving is possessing.

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To show off, a button.

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Paulina Rubio.

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It goes like this.

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Mio.

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That man is mine.

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That man is mine.

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He's my mayonnaise bottle.

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Exactly.

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Even if it's half, he says, but mine.

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And it's the worst thing, he knows it wasn't his all.

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But he says it was his anyway.

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Of course, the feeling and suffering of possession, right?

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Of possession.

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Hey, here's this beautiful woman

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who is Claudia Lobatón, psychologist, graduate of the level.

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A round of applause for Claudia Lobatón.

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Oh, okay.

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Graduate psychologist from the University of the Valle Campus Querétaro,

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specialized in education sexology

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by the Mexican Institute of Sexology

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and personal therapist of Jordi Rosado.

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Ah.

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And clinical sexologist.

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And sexologist, also of Jordi?

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No.

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Ah, yeah.

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No, but that's why you have a life.

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You can't reveal your passions.

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But it would be a good, a good testimony,

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because Jordi is a very healthy, very intelligent, very conscious man.

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I mean, what I've talked to him about, right?

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Well, hey,

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we started the conversation yesterday.

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Every, every day before,

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on my Instagram, in the stories,

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if you go to Marc Antonio Regil,

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we put the question of the next day.

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And here, checking my Instagram, it says,

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in the confessional that they confess to us today,

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it says, when you're in a relationship,

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you check your partner's cell phone,

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which would be obvious to want to control,

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the 18% says,

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yes, obviously.

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No, the 18% says yes,

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the 82% says no, how do you think?

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If you want to vote on my Instagram,

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go to Marc Antonio Regil, or you can go to

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marcantoniorregil.com, diagonal formula,

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and there it's also open the confessional.

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20% of the people

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think yes, obviously,

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I check my partner's cell phone. Claudia,

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to love is to control?

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Of course not.

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Although many times, because of the education

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we have, they teach us

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that it's the only way to express

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how they don't really teach us

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to love.

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I think there's a very good book

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that talks about liquid love.

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Liquid love.

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Liquid love, which is like all this

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situation that there is currently

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in the networks and in relationships

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where many times we have an immature love

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and where many times we hope

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that our partner

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fills our needs,

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and then we start to have

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the whole list of expectations

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of what my ideal partner should have.

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to go looking for it,

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to control it,

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or to wait for the person

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to be the way I want them to be,

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love is nothing.

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Love is just the opposite,

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because love doesn't generate pain,

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love doesn't generate a feeling

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of anguish,

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but rather it's a feeling

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of personal growth, it's a feeling

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of well-being, of joy.

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It has nothing to do with it,

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but they teach us that it's something

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that we have to take care of so much

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that it suddenly generates insecurities,

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that suddenly I don't feel

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like I'm good enough

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to receive love.

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we talk about these childhood wounds

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that control also

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goes a lot through

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the medium-unleashed environment,

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or the medium-unleashed environment.

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So, yes, no,

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it's not the same.

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I've been to many places, but it's not the same.

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Love is not controlling.

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Even though there are thousands of songs,

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from Vicente Fernandez to Bad Bunny,

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to whoever,

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that tell you, you're mine,

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or you're mine, and nobody else's,

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and even murder has happened,

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even in dramas, in operas,

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there are dramas

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that are, I'm going to kill you

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and your lover, you and the other,

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you and your new partner.

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If you're not mine, you're nobody's.

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That is born, that instinct,

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as a psychologist, that natural,

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territorial instinct, because even my dog

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has jealousy,

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I take it away, and where are you going?

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So, are we born with that

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or do we learn it?

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Well, it has a lot to do with the types of attachment.

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People, it has been proven that

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jealous people have to see

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because they have an anxious attachment

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or they learn that suddenly

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their needs were not satisfied

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in a time where, for example,

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the baby is crying,

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and suddenly they may come in a short time

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to give him the baby,

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or it may be that it takes time.

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is making it so easy for us to get closer,

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or how much anxiety

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it generates in our intimacy,

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or how much anxiety

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our environment generates in itself.

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and a lot of control comes,

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or rather, a lot of control comes

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from insecurities,

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and all people have insecurities.

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What happens is that

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sometimes there is a feeling

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of, I want others to change

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instead of me changing.

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And the feeling of love,

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or this romantic love,

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which is the one that tends to

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become toxic,

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and tends to become violent.

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Because if I am waiting

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for things to be the way I want them to be,

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I will probably have

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a low tolerance for frustration.

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And so, if I get frustrated a little,

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or rather, if I get frustrated quickly,

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I will probably not learn

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to handle my emotions.

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There are those who control themselves

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inwardly, and there are those who try to control

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themselves inwardly.

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The conflict with couples,

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or when we have controlling traits,

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is that for our partner

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we become insufferable.

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Because there are high expectations,

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because there is a constant demand

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of, you didn't do it well,

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a feeling of insufficiency,

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a feeling of

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little expression.

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So, no, definitely

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it is not bad.

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But they educate us

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that we have to focus inwardly.

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If you are suffering, I suffered it,

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I went through it, I have always said it,

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I got to my 17, 19, 23 years old,

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I was very toxic.

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Because I was very jealous,

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because that was the relationship I had with my mom,

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my mom was very jealous and very possessive of me,

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because I also had her and possessed her.

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Obviously, when I started dating,

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poor girls, I was very jealous and possessive.

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And I was looking for the jealous and possessive,

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because they were the ones who gave me

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a chance to be jealous and possessive.

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Of course, without realizing it, I was not conscious,

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now I see it.

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Imagine if you had followed that line of control.

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You would probably have

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reached the point of touching

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tints of violent relationships.

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Or having violent actions.

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Because the attempt to control,

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the difference between

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a control that goes

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more towards anxiety and that goes more

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towards fear, and that only stays there,

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is that I only want to control

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out of anxiety, but suddenly

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it becomes abusive.

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When you start to put situations

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of power.

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Verbal or physically?

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Exactly, it can be verbal,

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physical, economic,

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there are different variants.

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Of course, verbal, if I had it like that

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couple that is arguing on the screen

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that we have behind, well, that's how I would start my discussions

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with the girlfriends. They would yell at me,

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because my mom yelled at me,

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I yelled at her, and then at work,

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they would yell at me, and that control,

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control, I want everything to be...

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That doesn't have to do with the relationship

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of a couple, those desires to control

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have to do with everything in our lives.

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Exactly, we want to control everything

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out of fear, to feel vulnerable,

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because the environment

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we feel is not safe.

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A lot comes from there.

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If you come from an environment where

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everything was a mess, where there was no

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or good, parents that were

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extremely controlling,

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and that always made you feel that there was

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no way to do things,

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you become inflexible.

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And if it's not how I want it, then I impose

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to yell, as if I was defending

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my life. Exactly.

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And what happens with couples?

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Suddenly, this culture begins to be generated

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where the couple

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has to please, or

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has to please

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the person

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who is controlling.

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That is, they start to see

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these behavior patterns where

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they are not going to say

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this because

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it's very critical,

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because criticism is also a form of control

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and a form of manipulation.

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To make you

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do what I want you to do.

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And not because you interest me,

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but because I think

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that's what's right. And I'm protecting myself.

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And I'm protecting myself. When I control you,

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I want to predict the future in some way.

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Exactly. To be less vulnerable.

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Exactly. And if you realize, they are people,

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today we all have a part

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that is a great part of anxiety.

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Okay.

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And if you don't control your anxiety,

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you are in danger of being a person

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potentially violent.

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Of course. Well, let's take a little pause

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and we've already seen the consequences.

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To love is not to control.

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They are two different things.

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We've already seen why we want to control.

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We've already seen that the consequences

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are not pleasant. Today we'll talk about solutions.

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Claudia, the button stays with us.

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And in the next segment we'll join the conversation

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with Adriana Rehnkin, writer and conference speaker,

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author of the book,

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life partner or cellmate.

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That's strong.

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No, it's great.

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Yes, very good.

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Stay with us to continue talking about the topic.

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Because today we'll talk about solutions.

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Don't tell me, you just told me the problem,

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now how do I solve it? Today we'll talk about solutions.

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We'll be back after a break.

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I'm Marco Antonio Regil in Fórmula.

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Follow the conversation with

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Marco Antonio Regil in Fórmula.

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And remember that if you're watching

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or listening to the program and you can't see it

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or listen completely, Radio Fórmula,

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Grupo Fórmula, in their YouTube channel where we're live,

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also there every night

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the morning episode is put up.

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So there you can see all the programs

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that we've had since we started.

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And it's also on Spotify,

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Apple Podcasts, in all of them, like a podcast,

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look for Marco Antonio Regil in Fórmula

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and there we are, so there's no excuse

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that I didn't listen to it completely.

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So, the voting in Marco Antonio Regil.com,

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Diagonal Fórmula, where we have

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the confessional open as well,

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the voting is the same. When you're in a relationship,

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you check your partner's cell phone,

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80% says no,

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20% says yes.

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That's what they say.

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That's what they say because

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we've normalized it a lot.

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We've put the song

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of The Police,

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we've put the song of Paulina Ruyo,

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we've put the song of the prince

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of the song, José José,

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who told us many times, this, listen.

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Listen.

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Wow, it's a betrayal

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to turn to someone.

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Amas o controlas is the topic of today,

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our psychologist is with us,

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and Adriana Renkin,

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writer and conference writer,

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author of this book,

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which looks great, welcome.

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Adriana, what's the name of your book?

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Companeros de vida o celda.

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And then down here, what does it say?

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How I learned to love without controlling.

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You can learn to love without controlling.

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It's the only way,

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because what they teach us is to control.

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I mean, you learn

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since you were born.

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And in that love, you know,

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family and everything, you didn't feel

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control.

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We learn, so what do we have to do?

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Unlearn and learn to love

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without controlling.

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But we don't have to do it,

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people do it,

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that really got here,

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they're fed up with suffering.

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Why did you write the book?

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Were you in a toxic relationship

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in a toxic relationship?

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No, zero. I've had very few

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relationships and all of them have been

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zero toxic. But at some point

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you lived the pain. Sure.

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If you hadn't written the book. This book

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I base it on my last

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stable relationship, let's say,

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which is 31 years old.

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With my husband, we're

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married by the civil,

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he's my companion in life,

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and we

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consciously decided

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before we got married,

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to be companions in life and not in cell.

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He was like

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you asking, and how is that?

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I like the proposal.

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He said, don't tell me you want

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a permit?

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You don't want to be a swinger or a polyamorous?

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Something like that. Neither he nor I are

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swingers. Obviously we recognize

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our polyamorous capacity,

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but we don't have a polyamorous

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relationship,

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which is different. And they decide to be monogamous.

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If you go to my house or all my

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friends, they've never seen

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Mike's links,

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mine, no one knows.

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But between Mike and me, we knew

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that if we wanted to

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form a family,

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to base it on

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the sexual part would be

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very weak, very fragile

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foundations, and we see it

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all the time. If you're not

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mine, if it's not what I want,

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this is over.

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And the little ones

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are left flying.

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Look, Marcos, what I learned

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I learned it when I was 21

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with my first love, and

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I learned it because I was a

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control woman. But my

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daughter too, and she painted

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my horn.

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And that's when I learned

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and decided to learn

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to love without controlling, because I didn't want

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to lose her. Because I didn't want to suffer

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too, I understand.

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Look, you suffer because you suffer.

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In infidelity

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you suffer a lot.

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But when we broke up

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and everything, I said, if she insists

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that she loves me, and that the rest

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was just

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a... it had been a

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sexual attraction. Because I don't

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want to believe the person I love.

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That was my thought.

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Yes, that's what you say is very important, because

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one, at an unconscious level,

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because you have to be unconscious

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to want to control, obviously,

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you don't know what you're doing,

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you try to control

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to protect yourself, to not suffer.

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But that's when you end up suffering more, as you said, Claudia.

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Yes, because

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I've seen it, the people who

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are in this

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feeling of

548
00:21:02,120 --> 00:21:04,120
betrayal, both on one side and

549
00:21:04,120 --> 00:21:06,120
on the other...

550
00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:08,120
The microphone fell off.

551
00:21:08,120 --> 00:21:10,120
On both sides

552
00:21:10,120 --> 00:21:12,120
there's a feeling of suffering, because

553
00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:14,120
as you told me,

554
00:21:14,120 --> 00:21:16,120
behind the scenes, there's no

555
00:21:16,120 --> 00:21:18,120
freedom. And so

556
00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:20,120
if there's no freedom, there's no

557
00:21:20,120 --> 00:21:22,120
feeling of complete acceptance.

558
00:21:22,120 --> 00:21:24,120
You can't have a love

559
00:21:24,120 --> 00:21:26,120
relationship. I always say

560
00:21:26,120 --> 00:21:28,120
that if you're not free, it's not love.

561
00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:30,120
How does a healthy

562
00:21:30,120 --> 00:21:32,120
relationship look? Let's talk about

563
00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:34,120
solutions. How can we describe a

564
00:21:34,120 --> 00:21:36,120
non-controlling relationship, but full of love

565
00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:38,120
without control?

566
00:21:38,120 --> 00:21:40,120
You have to decide. To love is

567
00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:42,120
a decision that is made consciously

568
00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:44,120
when you've already

569
00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:46,120
matured all your...

570
00:21:46,120 --> 00:21:48,120
You have to mature

571
00:21:48,120 --> 00:21:50,120
many things, but you also

572
00:21:50,120 --> 00:21:52,120
question your romantic

573
00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:54,120
certainties, which are usually

574
00:21:54,120 --> 00:21:56,120
hyper-violent,

575
00:21:56,120 --> 00:21:58,120
like these songs we're singing.

576
00:21:58,120 --> 00:22:00,120
That song is sung by Jose Jose

577
00:22:00,120 --> 00:22:02,120
but it's violent,

578
00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:04,120
what he's saying. When you go with me, you don't look

579
00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:06,120
at anyone. You're ignoring

580
00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:08,120
the one who loves you. Since he loves you, you can't see anyone.

581
00:22:08,120 --> 00:22:10,120
How ungrateful. That's violence.

582
00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:12,120
For me, yes. With beautiful music.

583
00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:14,120
Totally. If you take away the

584
00:22:14,120 --> 00:22:16,120
part of, because I love you,

585
00:22:16,120 --> 00:22:18,120
it sounds like someone is calling him

586
00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:20,120
kidnapped. But then

587
00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:22,120
look, what happens

588
00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:24,120
these images that you see behind

589
00:22:24,120 --> 00:22:26,120
and everything, it's very obvious

590
00:22:26,120 --> 00:22:28,120
the violence. Not here, and that's

591
00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:30,120
the problem. We use

592
00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:32,120
the term, I love you,

593
00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:34,120
to rape you.

594
00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:36,120
I try to convince you

595
00:22:36,120 --> 00:22:38,120
that I'm calling you, and

596
00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:40,120
within telling you, my

597
00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:42,120
behavior is,

598
00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:44,120
do what I want.

599
00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:46,120
You need to help me

600
00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:48,120
to feel good.

601
00:22:48,120 --> 00:22:50,120
That's impossible.

602
00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:52,120
It's impossible, but

603
00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:54,120
we want to believe that

604
00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:56,120
it's possible, because they haven't

605
00:22:56,120 --> 00:22:58,120
sold us like that, in this

606
00:22:58,120 --> 00:23:00,120
romantic, idealistic

607
00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:02,120
love, this

608
00:23:02,120 --> 00:23:04,120
very magical love, which

609
00:23:04,120 --> 00:23:06,120
is not possible.

610
00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:08,120
Very immature.

611
00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:10,120
It's that between the novels,

612
00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:12,120
the old Disney movies, because they're changing,

613
00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:14,120
I know what to say, and the music,

614
00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:16,120
and the example we saw

615
00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:18,120
of sometimes, sometimes,

616
00:23:18,120 --> 00:23:20,120
of our parents or grandparents, where it was

617
00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:22,120
normal, it's normal that you think

618
00:23:22,120 --> 00:23:24,120
it's normal to control. Totally.

619
00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:26,120
If you don't love me, you don't love me. Exactly.

620
00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:28,120
I think it's like

621
00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:30,120
talking about solutions,

622
00:23:30,120 --> 00:23:32,120
love has a lot to do with,

623
00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:34,120
in my opinion, with taking responsibility

624
00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:36,120
for what you're giving.

625
00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:38,120
And not demanding,

626
00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:40,120
because often part of the control

627
00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:42,120
comes from this lawsuit or from this

628
00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:44,120
manipulation of blaming you.

629
00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:46,120
Like, I brought you a coffee,

630
00:23:46,120 --> 00:23:48,120
so how come you don't

631
00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:50,120
invite me to eat? You owe me.

632
00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:52,120
You owe me. And then it becomes

633
00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:54,120
exactly a trick. When you

634
00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:56,120
don't take responsibility for what you want to give

635
00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:58,120
because you want to give it and because

636
00:23:58,120 --> 00:24:00,120
it nourishes you, we're not

637
00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:02,120
talking about love. And often

638
00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:04,120
we don't know how to

639
00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:06,120
love other people because we don't

640
00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:08,120
know how to love ourselves.

641
00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:10,120
And in gifts, the control begins.

642
00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:12,120
I give you flowers. In the traditional

643
00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:14,120
system, right? Exactly. I like it.

644
00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:16,120
Of course, today I'm going to send you flowers, chocolate,

645
00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:18,120
serenade, I take you to dinner at a super

646
00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:20,120
restaurant. I conquer it. I conquer it.

647
00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:22,120
You owe me. Exactly. That's not love.

648
00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:24,120
That's not love because you're generating

649
00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:26,120
a debt concept. Of course.

650
00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:28,120
And in love, it has to

651
00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:30,120
be from you, from the joy of

652
00:24:30,120 --> 00:24:32,120
making me feel good.

653
00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:34,120
I'm happy. There's a concept.

654
00:24:34,120 --> 00:24:36,120
But here comes freedom 100%.

655
00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:38,120
So imagine, because

656
00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:40,120
what we're talking about here is being very

657
00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:42,120
like that, right? But what happens when

658
00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:44,120
you're going to want to

659
00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:46,120
commit yourself to someone,

660
00:24:46,120 --> 00:24:48,120
whether it's to start having a

661
00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:50,120
relationship, I like to

662
00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:52,120
call it loving, where

663
00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:54,120
to be loving you have to

664
00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:56,120
do everything possible to take

665
00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:58,120
control. What are you

666
00:24:58,120 --> 00:25:00,120
willing to

667
00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:02,120
commit to the person

668
00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:04,120
you want to build something with

669
00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:06,120
based on freedom?

670
00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:08,120
Based on freedom. No?

671
00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:10,120
If there's no freedom,

672
00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:12,120
then somehow there's a subject

673
00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:14,120
and then you obey me or I obey you.

674
00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:16,120
There's a cell. There's a cell.

675
00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:18,120
Because the jail is where we would have to obey

676
00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:20,120
and belong to. The most

677
00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:22,120
curious thing about that cell is that we,

678
00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:24,120
the two involved,

679
00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:26,120
we're building

680
00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:28,120
the bars without

681
00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:30,120
realizing it. And we're left

682
00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:32,120
inside the cell of

683
00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:34,120
fear. And the prisoner

684
00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:36,120
suffers and the jailer suffers.

685
00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:38,120
Both suffer. Both are

686
00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:40,120
in jail.

687
00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:42,120
Not only the one who's locked up in the cell.

688
00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:44,120
And we have two very clear

689
00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:46,120
needs.

690
00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:48,120
Hold on a second because we're going to go to a cut.

691
00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:50,120
But right now I don't want to cut you,

692
00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:52,120
I want you to expand on the subject. When we

693
00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:54,120
come back, we're going to add to the conversation

694
00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:56,120
Eugenia Flo, from

695
00:25:56,120 --> 00:25:58,120
the beautiful Mazatlán, Sinaloa,

696
00:25:58,120 --> 00:26:00,120
the Salada foot, sexologist,

697
00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:02,120
that's what the Mazatlán people say.

698
00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:04,120
And they say it with affection.

699
00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:06,120
They're Salada feet. I have many Mazatlán friends.

700
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:08,120
They're Salada feet. I love the tone

701
00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:10,120
of the people over there.

702
00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:12,120
We're going to go over there, where the monogishis are,

703
00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:14,120
in Mazatlán,

704
00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:16,120
according to Eugenia Flo,

705
00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:18,120
to talk to us about how you can,

706
00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:20,120
how the control,

707
00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:22,120
the sexual control,

708
00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:24,120
I give you sex as long as you do this.

709
00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:26,120
I don't give you sex if you do this.

710
00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:28,120
You have to have children. I don't want to have children.

711
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:30,120
The sexual control, the reproductive control,

712
00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:32,120
which is not love.

713
00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:34,120
Let's go back to the conversation, it's delicious.

714
00:26:34,120 --> 00:26:56,120
Keep up with us.

715
00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:06,120
Animate.

716
00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:08,120
Follow the conversation with

717
00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:10,120
Marco Antonio Regil in Formula.

718
00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:12,120
Today's question, if you check

719
00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:14,120
your partner's cell phone, yes or no,

720
00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:16,120
on my social media, on my Instagram,

721
00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:18,120
and at marcoantonioregil.com,

722
00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:20,120
in Formula, 80% says no,

723
00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:22,120
20% says yes.

724
00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:24,120
But I have other data.

725
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:26,120
I have other data.

726
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:28,120
100 Mexicans, no.

727
00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:30,120
The Avast page,

728
00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:32,120
published in 2022,

729
00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:34,120
says that 58%

730
00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:36,120
is that maybe our followers are very healthy.

731
00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:38,120
I think those who come and listen to this program

732
00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:40,120
are going to therapy.

733
00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:42,120
They are in love.

734
00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:44,120
The Avast survey says that 58%

735
00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:46,120
of Mexicans

736
00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:48,120
check their partner's phone

737
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:50,120
without permission.

738
00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:52,120
More than 2 terriers,

739
00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:54,120
77% of Mexicans have checked

740
00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:56,120
their partner's phone

741
00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:58,120
and agree that they have no right to access it.

742
00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:00,120
But they do.

743
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:02,120
And that's why it begins.

744
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:04,120
P Damio, Jose Jose.

745
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:06,120
What was Jose Jose saying?

746
00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:08,120
Listen.

747
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:10,120
The one who loves is suffering.

748
00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:12,120
The one who loves to love is suffering.

749
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:14,120
The one who loves is enjoying.

750
00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:16,120
The one who loves is suffering.

751
00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:18,120
If you love, you have to suffer

752
00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:20,120
and if you don't suffer,

753
00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:22,120
you're a bad person.

754
00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:24,120
And the one who loves is giving his life.

755
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:26,120
Sacrifice.

756
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:28,120
Exactly.

757
00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:30,120
It's like a libertine, right?

758
00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:31,120
Of course.

759
00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:32,120
Why do you want to be...

760
00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:33,120
Irrespective.

761
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:35,120
The one who loves, gives everything, gives everything.

762
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:38,120
The one who loves, gives everything.

763
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,120
Even his password for the phone.

764
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,120
Ah!

765
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,120
If you don't love me, you don't give me your password.

766
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,120
You give your phone password to your partner when...

767
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,120
Of course not.

768
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,120
You give it to her?

769
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,120
No.

770
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,120
No?

771
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,120
No, that's not loving.

772
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,120
Of course not.

773
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,120
That's invading privacy.

774
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,120
Invading privacy.

775
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,120
Not respecting that we are different beings.

776
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,120
Exactly.

777
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,120
That we have different needs.

778
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,120
The other one, you and I are the same.

779
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,120
No, we are not the same.

780
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,120
No.

781
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,120
Timbiriche, sorry, Diego Schoening.

782
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,120
I love you, friend.

783
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,120
But no, friend.

784
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,120
You and I are not the same.

785
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,120
We are not two beings.

786
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,120
Individuals.

787
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,120
Individuals.

788
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,120
And it's a basic need to respect my individuality.

789
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,120
And my needs.

790
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,120
That are totally different from yours.

791
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,120
Exactly.

792
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,120
Well, we are going to link ourselves.

793
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,120
We are going to invade Masatlan, Sinaloa.

794
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:34,120
Eugenia Flo, sexologist, graduate from the Institute of Sexology in Madrid, Spain.

795
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,120
Eugenia, it's a pleasure to see you, friend.

796
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,120
Hello!

797
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,120
Welcome.

798
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,120
It's a huge pleasure to see you.

799
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:45,120
Hey, do you give your partner your password?

800
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,120
No, definitely not.

801
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,120
You don't even ask for it?

802
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,120
No, neither.

803
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,120
Neither for what?

804
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,120
Now, tell us something.

805
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,120
What is sexual control?

806
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:08,120
Look, this part of wanting to control the moment of encounter, the peculiarities.

807
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,120
For example, what do we mean?

808
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:23,120
That my pleasures, what detones my pleasure, my excitement, is necessarily what detones your excitement.

809
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:28,120
Because if you love me, then you should be excited about the same thing.

810
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:32,120
If not, then how do you say you love me?

811
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:44,120
We find this very often, wanting to have this axis, being the axis of erotic encounter, of intimate encounter.

812
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,120
And then, what happens when we want to control that?

813
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,120
Point number one, we forget that this is something that we cannot control.

814
00:30:52,120 --> 00:31:01,120
Because this question of desire and our erotic peculiarities is something that is explored, it is something that we talk about.

815
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:10,120
And it is something that we discover and there will be points where we will make coincidences, but also points where we will not coincide.

816
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,120
And then that is where we have to negotiate.

817
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:21,120
I would like to expand a little bit the valuable information that both Claudia and Adriana have given in this respect.

818
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:28,120
To allow the other to love me as much as he can with what he has.

819
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:34,120
That would be the secret. The controller cannot do that, it is not allowed to do that.

820
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:50,120
And then what he is doing is that he prevents the entire erotic and amateur area of the relationship, that is, all our desires and the amateur.

821
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,120
What does the amateur mean?

822
00:31:52,120 --> 00:32:06,120
The bet in the game of our desires, our way of loving, attracting, seducing, and exciting us, does not have a field of expansion.

823
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:26,120
The erotic has nowhere to expand his wings in the middle of that control. And if my partner wants to control even my desires, what excites me, what provokes me, the time of the meeting, the modes and all that, it will make that expansion not be seen.

824
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,120
Of course.

825
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:38,120
So, I as a partner of the controller stop growing, our relationship stops growing, the relationship that we generate in interaction.

826
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:44,120
And what comes as a consequence of all that, Marco? What does it usually come later?

827
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:57,120
That we have a perfect factory of everything we call erotic conflicts or what people know as sexual dysfunctions.

828
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:06,120
Conflict with the orgasm, suddenly there is already this erectile dysfunction, suddenly there is already a conflict after another.

829
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:35,120
Why? Because in the middle of that tension and that stress, it is impossible for the erotic to relax, for the brain to expand and eros to be able to extend its wings and generate everything that has to be generated so that that desire, the excitement, all that we want, is being worked on.

830
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:55,120
So if the controller finally wants to control the meeting so that according to him or her, because there are both men and women, the controller, the meeting is wonderful and in the vast majority of cases that rings and everything comes out of control.

831
00:33:55,120 --> 00:34:10,120
It is very important, it does not happen only, I know that we are always crucifying men, men, controllers, men who do not know how to satisfy, do not learn from women how to touch her, how to caress her, how to kiss her, because they believe that they already know everything.

832
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:19,120
But I also ask you here at the table, women also sometimes fall into this, of controlling, even denying it.

833
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,120
Today it does not touch you, if you do not do this, it does not touch you.

834
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,120
It is a way of manipulation because it is a way of generating power.

835
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:35,120
This is the only time perhaps where I feel that I have the power, that I have the capacity to make decisions and then...

836
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,120
That is why non-exclusiveness pulls so nicely.

837
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,120
That is why non-exclusiveness pulls so nicely.

838
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,120
If it is not with you, then I go here.

839
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,120
You cannot control me so easily.

840
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,120
Sex is a very big way, it is a way of controlling.

841
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,120
To remove sex or to demand sex too, right?

842
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,120
Sex.

843
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,120
Sex itself is power.

844
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,120
Sex is power.

845
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:07,120
Yes, it is sad, but they teach us that, also, for what Eugenia was saying,

846
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:15,120
they teach us that loving has to go hand in hand with sexually wanting someone.

847
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:24,120
And that is where a big problem comes when we are aware that our needs will not always be the needs of our partner.

848
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:29,120
You spoke about the two basic needs of the human being in the previous segment.

849
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,120
In summary, what are those needs, Adriana?

850
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:41,120
There is a need to belong, to transcend, to feel safe.

851
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,120
That is one of the needs.

852
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:50,120
And the other, which will never be removed, is our need to continue to be curious.

853
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:57,120
We are curious beings, to explore, to expand my knowledge, to continue to test.

854
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:03,120
Those are the two basic needs that are put together all the time in all areas.

855
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,120
I want to feel safe.

856
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,120
Not just in sex.

857
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,120
And I want to explore.

858
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,120
Exactly.

859
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,120
Oh my.

860
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:15,120
The desire to live and a lot of the discovery and sexual satisfaction have to do with generating novelty.

861
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,120
And also generating intimacy.

862
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,120
These are the two factors that...

863
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,120
Novelty and intimacy.

864
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,120
Exactly.

865
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,120
Can they be done at the same time?

866
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,120
Yes, of course.

867
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,120
In a monogamous relationship?

868
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,120
In a monogamous relationship...

869
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaking of monogamous relationships, you are putting me on a very big topic.

870
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,120
Let's put it in relationships.

871
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,120
Everyone as they want and as they can, whatever they can.

872
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:44,120
I ask you, because you are probably thinking, oh my, that program is from the devil.

873
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,120
Turn it off.

874
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,120
We are not inviting people to be polyamorous.

875
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:52,120
Only to be informed by people and to seek what best suits them and to get to know them.

876
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,120
Because if I don't know myself, I won't know what is convenient for me.

877
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,120
And to get to know us, we have to be brave and discover ourselves.

878
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:09,120
And a lot of what Eugenia said, that has to do with sexual dysfunctions, is that sometimes there is so much control that I no longer allow myself to discover myself.

879
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,120
And I no longer allow myself to express myself or allow my partner to express themselves.

880
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,120
Of course.

881
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,120
Which is a lot of what she said about the program.

882
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:25,120
But one idealistic thing is to think that if I, within a partner, am wanting, as you said, to generate novelty.

883
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,120
Because I generate that novelty, you will be satisfied.

884
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,120
Of course.

885
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,120
That is very ideal.

886
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,120
It has to be both.

887
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,120
It is to generate my novelty.

888
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,120
I am responsible for generating my novelty, not the novelty of my partner.

889
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,120
Of course.

890
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,120
Sex is boring, it is my responsibility to make it boring.

891
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,120
I see what I do to get bored.

892
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,120
Exactly.

893
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,120
And that is very loving.

894
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,120
And as Marco said, you don't have to be polyamorous.

895
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:55,120
With the fact that you first learn to love a person, it is already a big step.

896
00:37:55,120 --> 00:38:00,120
Once there was a television series that said, when you have a problem with your partner, don't look for another partner.

897
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,120
Because now you have two problems.

898
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,120
Because you have not solved the root of the problem.

899
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,120
I want to talk to Eugenia because time is flying.

900
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,120
You know that time flies.

901
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:13,120
I want to ask you, Eugenia, what is reproductive control?

902
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:19,120
And what do I do if my partner pressures me to get pregnant or get pregnant?

903
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:27,120
First, if you are already realizing that he is pressuring you, there you already have great news for you.

904
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:36,120
Because if you are already detecting it, it is time to put a limit and go to work it first.

905
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:46,120
You have to realize that it is what attracted you to be with a controller, to question yourself what you do there.

906
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:57,120
Question yourself if you want to continue there and work with a therapist, work with a psychologist, with a sex psychologist and see what will happen with the relationship.

907
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:07,120
So it's the same, if they want to control me whether I have children or not, whether I have sex or not, they want to pressure me, control me in some way, then therapy is what they want.

908
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:23,120
Now that you mentioned the world of swingers, men and women do not enter the world of swingers for the pleasure of the couple without them having this erotic peculiarity of being swingers or being polyamorous because of the fear of losing the relationship.

909
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,120
This is something that will soon be thrown away.

910
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,120
Of course, and today many men are going through that, I say that there are no women who are also interested.

911
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:38,120
But there are many of my friends who tell me that my boyfriend wants us to share, my boyfriend wants a threesome, my boyfriend wants to explore.

912
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:57,120
I get anxious because I suffer because I don't want to share my partner because it is not really a desire that is being shared, rather it is someone deciding with another person, giving up their power to not lose the relationship.

913
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:04,120
But what Eugenia says is fear, fear is what pushes us all to control, fear.

914
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,120
But how to control or sometimes to please.

915
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:23,120
So in this of the swingers, and I have done this to talk to many swingers, there are really many people who do it for pleasure and fear that their partner will leave them or do something without them knowing it.

916
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:29,120
And they stop being who they are because I don't want to get into that but I do it so that they don't leave, but they already left because that's not what I want.

917
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,120
And you happen to do something that does not give you any pleasure?

918
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:38,120
Listen, the time is running out, we are going to say goodbye to the phone but I don't want to stop touching the subject.

919
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:44,120
We have been talking a lot about freedom, love is freedom. What is freedom? What is freedom?

920
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:49,120
For me freedom is power, there are many types of freedoms.

921
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:54,120
Right now I can't take a plane right now to go see my daughter Australia.

922
00:40:54,120 --> 00:41:01,120
That's freedom. But I have freedom, I have freedom of thought for example.

923
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,120
I'm not afraid to think, I'm not afraid to question.

924
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:14,120
I have freedom in my relationship with Miguel, my husband, I have freedom to act, to think and to say. Freedom.

925
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,120
Eugenia, for you, what is freedom in short? Because time is running out.

926
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,120
To be able to be me respecting the rights of others.

927
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,120
Claudia, what is freedom for you?

928
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:28,120
Knowledge and it also has a lot to do with empathy.

929
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,120
Ok, we have one minute. What is trust? The three of us. What is trust?

930
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,120
Because you have to trust to be in a truly loving relationship.

931
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:43,120
For me trust is the ability to develop tolerance to not know, to be good with the unknown.

932
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,120
That's for me to trust.

933
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,120
It's the opposite of control. I'm going to trust.

934
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,120
Yes, I trust because I also don't know.

935
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,120
I'm in the present.

936
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,120
We want security, yes we can't.

937
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,120
But when I press the security button it disappears.

938
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:05,120
Ok, Eugenia, what is trust for you?

939
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:10,120
Trust is understanding that I can't control what my partner decides.

940
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,120
That's her responsibility.

941
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,120
Ok, Claudia?

942
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:21,120
Trust for me is to make the decision to understand differences.

943
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,120
To understand, simply.

944
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:30,120
And I also think it's a super loving act.

945
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:42,120
Trust between two people has to be built with the time we spend, with the experiences we have.

946
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,120
And with moments of goodness.

947
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:53,120
Yes, with what you say you're going to do, you do.

948
00:42:53,120 --> 00:43:00,120
And with what you're having fun with. If I trust someone, I'm going to have fun with it.

949
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,120
If I've had moments where I've been good.

950
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:07,120
And if what you're hearing here on Telefórmula Radio Fórmula sounds attractive to you,

951
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,120
talk to your partner and tell her you want freedom.

952
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:16,120
For me love is freedom, for me love is to trust, for me love is to give each other support,

953
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,120
to be companions, companions, to really support each other.

954
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,120
I don't want you to tell me when you come with me don't look at anyone.

955
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,120
Because you have to tell the truth.

956
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:30,120
If that formula of traditional toxic love isn't yours, then tell her.

957
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,120
See you tomorrow on Telefórmula Radio Fórmula.

958
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,120
Stay tuned on Telecom Maxime Goodside.

959
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,120
And we'll continue talking about loves or controls.

960
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,120
The conversation has a lot to give.

961
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:53,120
Follow us here and vote at marcantonierjil.com diagonalfórmula.

962
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,120
Love or control is today's topic.

963
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,120
We're still live on Radio Fórmula and we're reviewing songs,

964
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,120
songs that have made us normalize what controlling is to love.

965
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,120
And if we were 100 Mexicans, the answer would be incorrect.

966
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,120
But here's Amaná. Let's listen to Amaná.

967
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:16,120
I'm a mouse from your mouse hole.

968
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,120
A trap that doesn't kill but doesn't free.

969
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,120
I'm a mouse from your mouse hole.

970
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:26,120
Love that doesn't kill but doesn't free.

971
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,120
And those songs, it's not that people who sing them are bad

972
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,120
and say, ah, let's create suffering with this song.

973
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,120
No, because music is art and you write it when you're in pain.

974
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:41,120
And human mind thinks weird things when you're in a depression, right?

975
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:42,120
Exactly.

976
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,120
Girls.

977
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,120
And you think you love when maybe because of what you're suffering

978
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,120
it has nothing to do with love but with heartbreak.

979
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,120
Exactly.

980
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,120
And it's normal for you to write a song about this or paint a painting

981
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,120
or make a script for a movie or art.

982
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,120
It's a catharsis, in fact, it's fine.

983
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,120
But when we repeat music, music and...

984
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,120
Education.

985
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,120
And we let ourselves be educated and programmed subconsciously,

986
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,120
that's the problem, right?

987
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,120
Of course.

988
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,120
Well, let's continue with Claudia Lobatón, psychologist,

989
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,120
Adriana Rankin, writer and conferencing, author of the book

990
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:19,120
Compañeras de Vida o Celda, and also with Eugenia Flo, sexologist

991
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,120
from Mazatlán, Sinaloa.

992
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,120
Here we have some opinions and questions from our audience.

993
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,120
Fanny Beatriz Roig from Merida, Yucatán says,

994
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,120
For me, loving is giving freedom. Love is not a prison.

995
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,120
Very good.

996
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,120
Bravo.

997
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,120
She says, a few years ago I loved and let it go.

998
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,120
There's a phrase I like, we all know it, I think.

999
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,120
If you love someone, let them go.

1000
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,120
If they come back to you, it's because it's always yours.

1001
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,120
If they don't come back, it's never yours.

1002
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,120
I let it go and it came back after 10 years.

1003
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,120
Wow.

1004
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,120
We have to write a movie about that, right?

1005
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,120
Yes, but...

1006
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,120
You can't...

1007
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,120
Hey, no, this is a good question.

1008
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,120
Can you give your partner freedom?

1009
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,120
How can you give freedom to someone?

1010
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,120
How? Why do we think that?

1011
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,120
Of course, you shouldn't give her freedom.

1012
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,120
You can't just accept it and honor it.

1013
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,120
Of course.

1014
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,120
You can't do anything else.

1015
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,120
If I give you freedom, freedom is yours.

1016
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,120
I honor it. It's not a privilege that I give you.

1017
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,120
Exactly.

1018
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:20,120
It's not because otherwise we would be under a hierarchy.

1019
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,120
Of course.

1020
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,120
I give myself freedom. I allow myself to enjoy.

1021
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:29,120
But in that love and in the songs and everything...

1022
00:46:28,020 --> 00:46:37,120
stupor that is very precious, but if you get stupefied,

1023
00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:33,240
toss, it's nice to say things.

1024
00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:34,240
But it's a game.

1025
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:35,240
It's a game.

1026
00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:36,240
Great, right?

1027
00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:38,240
Is it worth saying things to each other?

1028
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,120
you tell the other person, I'm yours.

1029
00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:39,240
Of course, that's the point.

1030
00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:40,240
Of course.

1031
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,120
I'm yours.

1032
00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:41,240
You can't be like this.

1033
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,120
Do whatever you want with me.

1034
00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:43,240
No, if I say something to you, you won't understand.

1035
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,120
Well, if they tell me in the right place at the right time,

1036
00:46:43,240 --> 00:46:44,240
You can't do that.

1037
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:45,240
I mean, come on.

1038
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,120
it's fine, but we know it's a game.

1039
00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:46,240
It's the same thing.

1040
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:47,240
It's the same thing.

1041
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,120
But it's not for the rest of your life.

1042
00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:48,240
It's the same thing.

1043
00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:49,240
It's the same thing.

1044
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,120
Don't take it so seriously.

1045
00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:51,240
You can't say to each other, I'm your friend,

1046
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:54,240
I'm your friend, I'm your friend.

1047
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:56,240
It's the same thing.

1048
00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:57,240
It's a game.

1049
00:46:57,240 --> 00:46:58,240
Isn't it great?

1050
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:01,240
Is it worth saying things at the time of the Cuchicuchi?

1051
00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:04,240
But we know they are not literally a truth.

1052
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:06,240
It's that at the time of the Cuchicuchi,

1053
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:08,240
one says a lot of barbarities.

1054
00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:12,240
Then later when you get up to bathe, you say, Kelly.

1055
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:15,240
Even, oh my God, oh my God, my presence.

1056
00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:16,240
But it's a game.

1057
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:17,240
I love you, I love you, I love you.

1058
00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:19,240
It's the Cuchicuchi.

1059
00:47:19,240 --> 00:47:22,240
But it's a little game, it's a role,

1060
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:25,240
that can keep the spark on, it's very nice.

1061
00:47:25,240 --> 00:47:26,240
Of course.

1062
00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:29,240
Hey, that's what I said, just to get there.

1063
00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:31,240
No, and that's how it feeds.

1064
00:47:31,240 --> 00:47:33,240
It's very nice to feed.

1065
00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:36,240
When I talk about romantic love as something violent,

1066
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:42,240
I'm not against having a table in a forest at night and a candle.

1067
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:43,240
That's beautiful.

1068
00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:44,240
How beautiful.

1069
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:51,240
No, the violent thing is to think that the other person belongs to you,

1070
00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:55,240
that you have to solve your needs.

1071
00:47:55,240 --> 00:47:56,240
Of course.

1072
00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:58,240
Hey, Cynthia Leyva from Agua Preta Sonora

1073
00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:00,240
asks a question that has to do with what I was mentioning,

1074
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:02,240
and the question is for the three of us, right?

1075
00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:06,240
What is the difference between obsession, love and falling in love?

1076
00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:10,240
And she says, how much freedom is healthy to give when you love?

1077
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:11,240
Give.

1078
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:13,240
There you go, that one you already answered.

1079
00:48:13,240 --> 00:48:17,240
But what is the difference between obsession, love and falling in love?

1080
00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:19,240
Who wants it? Adriana.

1081
00:48:19,240 --> 00:48:25,240
For me, it's very clear that when I talk about falling in love,

1082
00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:34,240
I think about necessity, addiction, idealizing the other person,

1083
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:39,240
thinking that it's like, I want it to be, and not how it is.

1084
00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:41,240
I can't see it as it is.

1085
00:48:41,240 --> 00:48:45,240
That's my part of falling in love.

1086
00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:53,240
For me, loving is releasing the person I love from my fears and my needs.

1087
00:48:53,240 --> 00:48:58,240
Wow, releasing the person I make from my fears and my needs.

1088
00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:00,240
I mean, I make myself responsible.

1089
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:04,240
And that's why I love you, and that's my way of loving Adriana.

1090
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:05,240
Of course.

1091
00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:09,240
Eugenia, what is the difference between obsession, love and falling in love?

1092
00:49:09,240 --> 00:49:12,240
The only beauty there is love.

1093
00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:14,240
The only beauty.

1094
00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:19,240
The obsession is only you and no one else but you, and you have to be you.

1095
00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:22,240
And if the other doesn't suit me or the other doesn't suit me,

1096
00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:24,240
then what am I capable of?

1097
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:25,240
Of course.

1098
00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:26,240
Right?

1099
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:29,240
That's where we enter a danger zone, because there is an obsession.

1100
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:30,240
Okay?

1101
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:31,240
You can do that.

1102
00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:35,240
The phase of falling in love, well, neuroscience tells us,

1103
00:49:35,240 --> 00:49:40,240
don't decide anything important in the phase of falling in love.

1104
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:45,240
And remembering Dr. Eduardo Felipso tells us that it's the first 10,000 days, right?

1105
00:49:45,240 --> 00:49:47,240
The phase of falling in love.

1106
00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:48,240
10,000 days.

1107
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:51,240
Around there, Claudia, we are grateful for your help.

1108
00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:52,240
10,000 days.

1109
00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:54,240
What are the phases of falling in love?

1110
00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:56,240
How long does it last?

1111
00:49:56,240 --> 00:50:00,240
It can last three months and it can extend to three years, and it depends.

1112
00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:05,240
And it has also been proven that you can fall in love again with the same person,

1113
00:50:05,240 --> 00:50:09,240
but taking into account that there is a new relationship, which is unlikely,

1114
00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:11,240
but it happens.

1115
00:50:11,240 --> 00:50:15,240
But when I'm in love, I'm dumbfounded by not using another word.

1116
00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:16,240
I know.

1117
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:18,240
And you can't love while you're in love.

1118
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:20,240
When you're in love, you can't love?

1119
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:27,240
From my point of view, you can love once you stop being in love.

1120
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:33,240
And there, I know that people are shocked because there is a mixture between how,

1121
00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:36,240
if it's, I want to live in love, but until...

1122
00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:38,240
No, there is no love at first sight, right?

1123
00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:40,240
There is no love at first sight.

1124
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:42,240
Strong statements in the formula.

1125
00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:44,240
There is no love at first sight.

1126
00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:46,240
But if all movies tell me so...

1127
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:47,240
It's falling in love.

1128
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:54,240
I would put the obsession, falling in love and loving as a matryoshka,

1129
00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:59,240
where the obsession is a series of recurring thoughts,

1130
00:50:59,240 --> 00:51:04,240
where I'm fixed only towards one place and I don't see anything else around me.

1131
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:09,240
It can even be quite pathological and part of many mental illnesses.

1132
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:15,240
Falling in love is a process that is chemical, that is natural,

1133
00:51:15,240 --> 00:51:21,240
that is in function of reproduction and that usually has obsessive thoughts.

1134
00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:23,240
And that will always end.

1135
00:51:23,240 --> 00:51:29,240
It will end, it has a duration, it is chemical, important decisions are not made.

1136
00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:31,240
And the third one, which is love,

1137
00:51:31,240 --> 00:51:35,240
love is a decision after you have gone through the love process,

1138
00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:39,240
now you decide if you want to love that person or not.

1139
00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:45,240
Which is a decision of your own and which is a consequence of self-knowledge,

1140
00:51:45,240 --> 00:51:47,240
which is a consequence of well-being,

1141
00:51:47,240 --> 00:51:50,240
which is a consequence of wanting to share with you

1142
00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:54,240
and that you are accepting what the other person has with their resources.

1143
00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:55,240
Sure.

1144
00:51:55,240 --> 00:52:00,240
Hey, it comes to mind, Andy, look for Miguel Mateo's song, the obsession, do you remember?

1145
00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:02,240
From the times of Spanish rock.

1146
00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:05,240
It comes to mind that there is a step from hate to love,

1147
00:52:05,240 --> 00:52:11,240
but with what you are saying I am understanding that it is not that from hate to love there is a step,

1148
00:52:11,240 --> 00:52:14,240
from obsession to hate there is a step.

1149
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:19,240
Because if you don't answer me, if you don't do what I want, then I'm going to hate you.

1150
00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:20,240
Or am I wrong?

1151
00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:23,240
No, no, no, it has a lot to do with it, but wow,

1152
00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:26,240
I would also like to understand what you call hate.

1153
00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:30,240
No, no, no, that's what the phrase says, I'm not saying hate.

1154
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:32,240
What you say is that I hate love.

1155
00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:35,240
And my step, for example, happens to those of us who sometimes are,

1156
00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:38,240
it doesn't have to be a couple, to those of us who are public people,

1157
00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:45,240
fans who love you, love you, love you, but it is one thing that they don't see well

1158
00:52:45,240 --> 00:52:48,240
and then you go from being their greatest idol to hating you, you are a hypocrite,

1159
00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:52,240
I'm leaving, I'm not going to follow you anymore, that's what I mean.

1160
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:58,240
Yes, yes, it has to do with this rigid thought, these high expectations,

1161
00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:03,240
hate comes from this feeling of despair,

1162
00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:08,240
and also because I like it a lot in a couple, to see this from the mirror.

1163
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:18,240
Everything I'm looking for in you are things that I once lacked in my life story.

1164
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:23,240
It can be like a pendulum, it can be, for example,

1165
00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:26,240
if I lived with an alcoholic person, it could be that I liked alcohol a lot,

1166
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:30,240
it could be that I rejected it on an excessive level,

1167
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:34,240
and if I'm aware of it, then I've already worked on it,

1168
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:39,240
or I relate to people who have a problem with alcohol to look for a way to save them.

1169
00:53:39,240 --> 00:53:42,240
I think of falling in love and I have it there in my book,

1170
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:45,240
a phrase or a little poem that says,

1171
00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:49,240
I fall in love with you because of what you see in me,

1172
00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:54,240
your words transform me, they make me love myself,

1173
00:53:54,240 --> 00:54:00,240
that's why it hurts when you leave, because I return to the blindness of my own beauty.

1174
00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:04,240
Wow, you should write a book. Oh, it's already in the book.

1175
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:06,240
I gave it to you.

1176
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:09,240
I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Eugenia, we have 30 seconds, because we're going to a break,

1177
00:54:09,240 --> 00:54:13,240
but I want you to tell me, obsession, from love to hate, is there a step,

1178
00:54:13,240 --> 00:54:17,240
or is it from obsession to hate, a step? What do you think of this?

1179
00:54:17,240 --> 00:54:24,240
Well, both obsession is dangerous, as we have already seen,

1180
00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:28,240
I have tried these cases of obsession,

1181
00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:33,240
obsession always derives almost in a restriction order,

1182
00:54:33,240 --> 00:54:37,240
many times when there is a person who is obsessed with someone,

1183
00:54:37,240 --> 00:54:40,240
he can come to charge that person,

1184
00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:47,240
I think they are interesting points that would require another program,

1185
00:54:47,240 --> 00:54:52,240
and the other issue of passing to hate,

1186
00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:56,240
I can't have you, you don't correspond to me,

1187
00:54:56,240 --> 00:54:59,240
so now I hate you, but do I really hate you?

1188
00:54:59,240 --> 00:55:01,240
Or do I hate myself?

1189
00:55:01,240 --> 00:55:05,240
Hate is a projection, I hate myself and I project it on you in some way.

1190
00:55:05,240 --> 00:55:08,240
Like why do I hate you if you don't correspond to me?

1191
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:10,240
Of course, well.

1192
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:13,240
Well, you are obliged, if I love you, I am responsible for this love.

1193
00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:17,240
Of course, let's go to the break with the beautiful song of Miguel Mateos, we'll see.

1194
00:55:17,240 --> 00:55:26,240
Obsession, obsession, a ball of destiny,

1195
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:32,240
I put you on my path, that's why.

1196
00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:37,240
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1197
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1198
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1199
00:55:43,240 --> 00:55:44,240
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1200
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1201
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1202
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1203
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1204
00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:12,240
We return with Marco Antonio Regil in formula.

1205
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:15,240
Do you love or control? That is today's question.

1206
00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:18,240
I'm seeing here on my Instagram that is Marco Antonio Regil.

1207
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:20,240
Wendland03 says, is it wrong?

1208
00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:29,240
About today's question, if you check or not check, if you get your partner to check your cell phone.

1209
00:56:29,240 --> 00:56:33,240
He says, it's wrong, but that's how you find out about reality.

1210
00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:35,240
Can, can, can, can.

1211
00:56:35,240 --> 00:56:37,240
You can't ask because you don't believe him.

1212
00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:39,240
Well, I'll tell you that here in a studio that I already lost,

1213
00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:43,240
33% of Mexicans say that when they've searched they've found.

1214
00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:44,240
Of course.

1215
00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:45,240
Oh, dad.

1216
00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:49,240
Well, Gabby08 says, that's an insult to me.

1217
00:56:49,240 --> 00:56:51,240
I would never allow myself to have that toxicity.

1218
00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:52,240
That's why I go to therapy.

1219
00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:53,240
Very good, Gabby.

1220
00:56:53,240 --> 00:56:55,240
A round of applause for Gabby.

1221
00:56:55,240 --> 00:57:01,240
I always say that the sexiest thing I can find in a woman, as a single man, is that she tells me that she goes to therapy.

1222
00:57:01,240 --> 00:57:02,240
What a thing.

1223
00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:05,240
The lingerie of emotions.

1224
00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:06,240
What a thing.

1225
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:07,240
I go to therapy.

1226
00:57:07,240 --> 00:57:09,240
How many times a week.

1227
00:57:09,240 --> 00:57:11,240
I already forgave my parents.

1228
00:57:11,240 --> 00:57:12,240
I'm working in my inner child.

1229
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:14,240
I am responsible for my emotions.

1230
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:16,240
I, oh, little one.

1231
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:17,240
A tequila, please.

1232
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,240
Well, check it out, says Ross Cáceres.

1233
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,240
Checking it out is not the problem.

1234
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,240
The problem is your insecurity.

1235
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:28,240
And if your partner provokes that insecurity, there we are as if taking responsibility for the couple.

1236
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,240
Exactly.

1237
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:30,240
How about that?

1238
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,240
But at least it's already being realized.

1239
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,240
We are realizing it, but therapy is missing.

1240
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,240
We all lack therapy, I include myself.

1241
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,240
Miach on Instagram.

1242
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,240
We both do it, but there is also respect.

1243
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:42,240
It's mutual agreement.

1244
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,240
Oh, great.

1245
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,240
I mean, I give you my...

1246
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,240
How are you doing that?

1247
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:54,240
Well, that's what I was telling Clau here, that respect is defined only between the couple.

1248
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,240
If for them that is to respect, well, there it is.

1249
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,240
It's fine, it's fine.

1250
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:00,240
Respect is everyone.

1251
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:01,240
Yes.

1252
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:02,240
There is no respect.

1253
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:03,240
Everyone has their own...

1254
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:04,240
Everyone has their own...

1255
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:05,240
Everyone has their own...

1256
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:06,240
Everyone has their own...

1257
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,240
Hey, response from Javi Azul on Instagram.

1258
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:14,240
Nefasto, the fault is not the phone, it's you for being with someone who doesn't value you.

1259
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,240
Bye, what follows.

1260
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,240
Very good, very good.

1261
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,240
Hey, what was I...

1262
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,240
What were we talking about?

1263
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:23,240
What were we talking about?

1264
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:24,240
About love and hate.

1265
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,240
About love and hate.

1266
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:30,240
What I was saying is that they are not counterparts.

1267
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,240
Hate is not the counterpart of love.

1268
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,240
Hate is not the absence of love.

1269
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:41,240
It's not the counterpart, because you feel the same amount of hate as the same amount of love.

1270
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:47,240
But not love, that is, the counterpart of love is indifference.

1271
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,240
It's already worth everything.

1272
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,240
Of course, indifference is the opposite of love.

1273
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,240
If there is love, I care, and I am involved.

1274
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:56,240
And if not...

1275
00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:02,240
And now, girls, Eugenia and Clau, you in therapy, when you see a couple who already have indifference, is it worth it?

1276
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:03,240
Is it worth it?

1277
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:11,240
Well, it's not worth it, but it is explaining that relationships die, even if they can continue being there.

1278
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,240
And that they have to be aware and make the decision.

1279
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,240
Okay, look, here is a statistic, listen to this.

1280
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,240
Excuse me, Eugenia, the same question for you.

1281
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,240
When there is no interest...

1282
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:29,240
No, you have to be clear about what is what has you together, and it's not always love, and it's also worth it, as long as you are aware.

1283
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:30,240
Okay.

1284
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:34,240
Here is a statistic, also from Avast, published in 2022, says,

1285
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:39,240
Two out of five couples fought for something they discovered on their partner's phone.

1286
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:40,240
Two out of five.

1287
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:41,240
That's a lot.

1288
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It's high.

1289
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:43,240
But look at this statistic, it says,

1290
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:49,240
19% of the couples found, memorized the password of their partner.

1291
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:54,240
They learned it, they didn't see it, they memorized it, they looked at it there in the restaurant.

1292
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,240
Then it says,

1293
00:59:55,240 --> 01:00:00,240
6% cheated on their partner to unlock their phone.

1294
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:04,240
And listen to this, I can't believe this, God, free me from this.

1295
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:09,240
4% used their partner's fingerprint while they were sleeping to unlock it.

1296
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,240
I mean, I can't sleep at all if there is no trust, really.

1297
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:16,240
And you wake up like this, oh, I like your little hand.

1298
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,240
Exactly.

1299
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,240
And while at night like this.

1300
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,240
There has to be trust, right? Eugenia, what do you think of this?

1301
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,240
Let's see.

1302
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:26,240
Oh, it's so hard, isn't it?

1303
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:30,240
And that phrase, how do you live your life?

1304
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:35,240
I mean, what makes me constantly think that my partner is unfaithful, that he is cheating on me?

1305
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,240
I mean, where does that thought come from?

1306
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,240
Well, maybe you've done it.

1307
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,240
Leon thinks that everything is under his condition.

1308
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:43,240
Exactly.

1309
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:44,240
Where does that come from?

1310
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:45,240
Why?

1311
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:50,240
Now, if I have a foundation, what good is it for me to complain, complain, complain, and not do anything about it?

1312
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:54,240
What do I do there? What joy is there that I recognize?

1313
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,240
There are people who like to suffer.

1314
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,240
When I didn't go to therapy and I was toxic, there was like an adrenaline rush.

1315
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:04,240
I was jealous, I was jealous. It was like a competition all the time to retain it.

1316
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,240
Addiction to cortisol.

1317
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:07,240
Addiction to cortisol.

1318
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:12,240
And the need and feeling of validation to have reason.

1319
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:18,240
Many times we find out that we are uncomfortable, that it doesn't do us good.

1320
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:22,240
Just because of the feeling of saying, I am the good one.

1321
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:26,240
And because of the fallacy of the lost cost.

1322
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:31,240
I mean, I invested a lot in this relationship. Now I'm left to see.

1323
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:35,240
It costs what it costs. Even if it costs my well-being.

1324
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:41,240
When I realized what you were talking about, it was when I read that book by Eckhart Tolle, The New Earth,

1325
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,240
which is not an easy book, it's not for beginners, but it's a very good book.

1326
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:48,240
And he was talking about the body of pain, which is like a zombie,

1327
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:52,240
that every time it feels pain and drama, it's like it's taking life.

1328
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:59,240
And that body of pain is claiming toxicity because it lives from that and wants to be awake.

1329
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:03,240
And when you don't give it that toxicity, it's dying and it doesn't want to die.

1330
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:04,240
It's its food.

1331
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:05,240
Do you remember that part?

1332
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:09,240
Yes, you reminded me of a therapeutic exercise called Monsters of Love,

1333
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:14,240
which has a whole narrative and talks a lot about the body of pain.

1334
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,240
The body of pain, you have to see it as an entity.

1335
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,240
It's not me, but it's an entity.

1336
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:24,240
And the more you feed it, Eugenia, the more life and strength it has.

1337
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:28,240
You have to put it in a fast, not intermittent, but permanent.

1338
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,240
Exactly.

1339
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:36,960
Touch the

1340
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:42,960
original point.

1341
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,960
Thank you so much, Marco.

1342
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:47,960
Thank you, Marco.

1343
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:48,960
Of course.

1344
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:53,960
I think with what we could have from this program, with so many important contributions,

1345
01:02:53,960 --> 01:03:01,960
I think as a society we should be learning that the best thing that could happen is

1346
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:09,360
is stop watching others and start working on our best version.

1347
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:14,360
Stop comparing me, stop thinking about what my partner will be doing,

1348
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,560
if he will be being faithful or not, if he will be more beautiful or not,

1349
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:22,760
more, more, more, more, and work on my best version day by day.

1350
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:24,960
And from there everything will flow much better.

1351
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,760
You can follow me on Instagram, I'm like sexologist,

1352
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,960
Kion Bajo, Eugenia, nothing more.

1353
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,360
I'm going to give you my Instagram so that in a single social network

1354
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,960
you can follow me, sexologist, Kion Bajo, Eugenia.

1355
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,760
Thank you very much to Marco, Claudia and Adriana.

1356
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,560
It was a pleasure to have coincided with you, Eugenia.

1357
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:47,360
Time flies, Adriana Rankin, where can we find your book?

1358
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:48,560
And you have a masterclass.

1359
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:52,760
Yes, I have a webinar this Saturday at 11.30 in the morning.

1360
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,560
The topic is, do you suffer?

1361
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,760
Don't suffer because of love, because love doesn't hurt.

1362
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,160
What hurts are romantic beliefs.

1363
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,160
Look for me on Instagram, like Adriana Rankin,

1364
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:08,560
and to buy my book you can enter Amazon, look for it,

1365
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,560
like this, companions of life or Zelda.

1366
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,960
Ok, perfect. Claudia, where can we find you to follow you?

1367
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:16,560
At www.sexologist.cloud.

1368
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:20,760
Please go to therapy, dare to meet,

1369
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,960
and that is my conclusion, because if there is no knowledge, there is no love.

1370
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:25,560
The topic is to go inside.

1371
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:26,360
Go inside.

1372
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:27,560
And there is the solution.

1373
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,960
If Jordi and I have achieved it, you can also see it.

1374
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:30,760
Of course.

1375
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:34,160
If my dear Jordi is where he is.

1376
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,760
Yes, he is where he is.

1377
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:38,960
That is why self-knowledge is at the bottom.

1378
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:40,960
Of course, we have thought difficult things, but therapy is going a lot.

1379
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:41,560
I have said it.

1380
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:41,960
Yes, yes, yes.

1381
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:43,560
My friend, I have worked on it, it is noticeable.

1382
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:47,160
It is another conversation that is given with someone who has gone to therapy.

1383
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:51,560
Tomorrow on Radio Fórmula and Telefórmula we will talk about love in the times of Tinder.

1384
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:55,960
Love in the times of Tinder and two people who are actors and actresses

1385
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:57,960
who met their partner on Tinder will come.

1386
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:02,160
And we will also talk, the Mexican Hitch will be with us,

1387
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,360
a super, super expert in relationships.

1388
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,760
Can love be found in applications?

1389
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:12,160
Would you trust someone who exists in an application?

1390
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,160
That is the question of tomorrow here on Radio Fórmula and Telefórmula.

1391
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:15,960
I am Marco Antonio Regil.

1392
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,160
You can find me on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube,

1393
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,360
everywhere as marcoantoniorregil.

1394
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:21,560
Thank you, see you tomorrow.

1395
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:22,560
Thank you girls.

1396
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:23,560
Thank you.

1397
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:24,560
Thank you.

1398
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:24,960
See you tomorrow.

1399
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:50,960
Thank you all.

1400
01:05:54,960 --> 01:06:09,960
Thank you.