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you Happy Thursday night. Welcome back. It's

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2026. We're back. Dan and Deb, I'm going to you

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live on a Thursday night, Thursday night through

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down. Deb, how you been? I've been good. I am

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well rested. I feel good. I think it's important

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to get a lot of rest, take breaks, celebrate

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the holidays, step away. Because if you don't

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do that, then you flip out on your audience and

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Chaos ensues, but we'll talk about that later.

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I don't want to leave. I don't want to let our

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guest way too long He's waiting. He's warming

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up warming up that arm. Yeah. Yeah, let's bring

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him right out Give him a warm welcome. Yep a

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man who needs no I mean we don't have to give

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him any introduction whatsoever. You know him.

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You love him. Let's bring him on How are you?

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Nice to thank you guys for having me on. How

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are you doing? Well, doing well. Good to see

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you. I think this is the first time we're having

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you on first time. First time. Yes. Yeah. Well,

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if we had been talking shit about them and I

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said, Joey, we've always, we've always been team

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Joey. We've always been team Catalano here on

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a nice podcast. Everybody talks about me in some

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kind of way. So it don't matter. You know, I'm

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cool with it. So Joey, I I tell everybody this,

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I'm going to tell you, I find you wildly entertaining.

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So I do when you're mad, when you're happy and

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I noticed you're doing some cool things. We'll

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talk about that, too. You bought a house. You're

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working on a house. Yes, yes, yes. So that's

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exciting. Good for you. Thank you. And one of

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the biggest thing was getting my health in order.

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I lost so far forty eight pounds. So I got great

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to really do, man. Yeah, I feel like I'm in my

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thirties now, so I'm getting that shape back,

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you know, so was it? Oh, oh, oh, it was the other

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one. Zip down. Oh, OK. OK. Yeah, I'm still on

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it. I've been on it six and a half months. First

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three months, no results, but maybe like four

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pounds that fourth and fifth month and six month.

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Bam. It just came off. So yeah, you look great.

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Thank you. So yeah. Talk. Walk us through that.

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So is it so it's it suppresses your appetite.

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So you're eating less. You start out with five

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milligrams. For two months, I get a shot a week.

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So there's four shots of the box. It's like,

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it's a pen. You got to keep in the refrigerator

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every week. You take it out. It's like a little

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pen just dabbing your eye on your arm. 2 .5 after

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two months, I went to five milligrams from five

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milligrams, 7 .5. And it does 10 is the next

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one. I'm still on 10. I got one more shot and

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I just picked up by 12 .5. Yeah. It suppresses

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your appetite. It blocks. I mean, I could eat.

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I'm being Italian. Number one, I could eat. I

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could just eat. I love to eat. So, and I would

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eat. overindulge all the time. When I started

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streaming a couple of years ago, being up late

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and I was getting all this weight, I would eat

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in all the wrong hours. I would eat all the junk

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food. I would one o 'clock in the morning to

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three o 'clock in the morning. I'd be stuffing

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five candy bars and 10 sodas, you know, and I

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got 100 pounds obese. I was declared officially

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obese, which caused me to have heart failure.

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I got, you know, that's I damaged my heart really

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bad. That's not all that damaged my heart. Of

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course, 40 years of drug use is put a lot of

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strain on my heart as well, too. I mean, I mean,

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I knew that Someday I would have to face this

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with all the drug use that I had when I was an

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addict So, uh, but yeah, it suppresses you i'll

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eat three bites out of a burger or or take up

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two bites out of a piece of pizza That third

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bite I try and it's like I get nauseous. I want

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to throw up So yeah, you don't you want to eat

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small stuff. I eat a lot of tuna I buy them by

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the cases. I buy tuna packs and I eat them. I

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eat them Every couple hours, you know, no mayonnaise

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and it just tuna protein. That's I eat a lot

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of fruits You know yogurts stuff like that gotta

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watch certain things bananas are good for you,

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but they got a lot of sugar in it Sugar's not

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my friend. It never was. I can have normal stuff.

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I just can't indulge in it. Like I can still

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have pasta if I want it once or twice a month,

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but just not a half a pound of it. You know,

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I got to moderate. Yeah, you got a moderation.

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What works better? You've probably got more energy.

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I couldn't even walk upstairs. My feet were always

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swollen because of the heart failure. I got all

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my energy back. I could walk normal now. I could

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I could almost run again. uh yeah i feel real

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good and it's only 48 pounds and i'm only i'm

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still 2 12 i'm still i have to get down to about

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185 so and i stay there and keep it off so i'm

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60 now i just turned 62 weeks ago happy birthday

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yeah yeah so this is this this is the serious

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years this is the golden years and You don't

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know if you're going to go from 60 to 80, 60

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to 70 or 60 to 61. You don't know that, you know.

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Right. Well, I'm taking it. You seem like you've

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been popping up a lot lately. So you're back

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kind of in the game. I mean, you're talking to

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the Catalano for America stuff again. Well, I

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was, you know, I've been putting I stepped away

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in April, was in the middle of a stream with

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Lou, my ex partner. I for one, I didn't feel

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it no more. I just didn't feel the excitement

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no more. I felt that I took myself as far as

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I was going to go. I was still after two years

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being heavily trod, which I didn't mind that

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because I like to argue. I like to argue and

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go after people. So that part was fine. But what

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I was doing is I was consuming all my time. I

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was sitting in a seat. I was staying up, hardly

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sleeping, eating wrong. And it was just messing

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with my health and my mind. My mind was wrong

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again. So I had to step back and take a breath.

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I had to get my mind. The first thing I worked

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on was my mind. I had to get right here in the

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head. If I didn't do that, none of this would

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be possible. I had to just take a notch down

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and evaluate me. You know, I always every morning

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for the last 30 years, I wake up and I go when

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I go to the shower or the bathroom when I wake

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up, I look in the mirror and I say, Who's your

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worst nightmare? And I look into myself and I

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say you are. I've been my worst nightmare my

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whole life. Well, Joey, I thought it was small

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and karmic. They're small. They're small. They're

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small potatoes. They they they me. I'm my own

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worst nightmare. I'm the one that causes all

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my mischief. I'm the one that got myself in trouble.

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All my decisions. I made a lot of bad choices.

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Right. and still trying to maintain to be a good

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parent, a good son to my mother, a good husband

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to my wife. But still, I had no tolerance for

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anger, zero to 150 in less than two seconds.

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And I don't mean where I want to talk, you know,

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and I'm breaking stuff and I'm like a time bomb.

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I mean, I was like that my whole life. Yeah.

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Yeah. I worked on that the last six months. I

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don't even hardly argue anymore. I don't even

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get loud anymore. I just I change my whole format.

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I just. I had to reexamine myself and know i've

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always been accountable when i'm when i'm wrong

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i'm wrong i'll admit it i'll say i'm sorry if

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I hurt somebody or i'll go i'll go do what I

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have to do to fix it but uh I was just doing

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myself too wrong for too many years and it was

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time to stop because my doctor said you're the

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only one controls it you you live or die that's

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up to you so right There were a few shows last

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year where I think people were saying, wow, Joey's

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got to give himself a heart attack. I almost

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did a couple of times. Believe me, I really did.

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But it seems like you're rejuvenated. Deb and

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I have this conversation all the time. We take

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breaks from doing this. Like we took December

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off. We didn't do anything. It's awesome. Like

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you got to you got to step away. You have to

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watch if it interferes with your life. It's not

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worth it. You know, and so it's good. It's good.

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It's good to hear you say that because we feel

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the same way about. Yeah. You know, I need to

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listen to my wife more because when she walked

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away and and she just she never really fretted

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to the people she could handle it. She would

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let it go out with a grain of salt and let it

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blow over where I would just I'd be irate. She

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says, why does this get to you so badly? And,

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you know, she knows I'm a fighter. And when they

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when they were talking bad about her, I just

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had to go for people's throats. And she's like,

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I don't care. Don't let it bother you. You're

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the one that's getting sick over this. But that's

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just me as a man. I believe you marry your wife.

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You're protected for life. It's the death of

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your parts and sickness and health. And I've

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always been protected of my family and my grandkids.

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And that's just how I am. You know, I will go

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for someone's throat when it comes to my family's.

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And when did you learn to come back? When did

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you get like the hunger to kind of get back on

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doing shows, doing stuff? What was the motivation

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there? Well, I mean, I never wanted to lose my

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chance. I did shorts and I and I did some live

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streams. I thought I only did like 53, but my

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one of my neminis is arch nemesis. A cupcake

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made a shirt that I did 78 streams since April.

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You know, he counted it to a T. And so whatever

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I did, but I didn't do them every day. I did

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them, you know, maybe one or two periodically

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throughout the month or a couple, you know, four

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or five a month or whatever. But it was probably

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about three weeks ago. You know, I was coming

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to the decision because I really been working

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hard on the campaign because, you know, I'm only

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I'm only in the very, very first step. I still

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have to get on. I have to get signatures in all

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these states to get on the ballot. You don't

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get the signatures. Then you got you. You don't

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get into the into the election. So how many signatures

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do you need to get? And Florida is the Florida,

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California, too tough. Florida is one hundred

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and fifty thousand signatures. Wow. Wow. And

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California is two hundred and twenty five thousand

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and Arizona is one hundred and ninety thousand.

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But there's a lot of states that don't need three

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thousand five thousand or just pay a fee, pay

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five hundred dollars. No, see, Nevada is like

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that. You pay five hundred. So I put together

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I'm going to go after the smaller states and

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get those out of the way before I worry about

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tackling the bigger states and see where I'm

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at in six months. I have to July of twenty eight

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to have had the electoral votes. and everything

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into the election office, counting the votes

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to see if I made it debate the ballot. How do

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you, how do you, how do you go about trying to

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get that many votes? Like what's your, what's

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your strategy to get that many California votes?

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Dabble verse get a thousand or what are we going

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to do? I got to tell you this. First of all,

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first and foremost is you've got to follow every

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law there is. I can't just pop up in a state

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and start walking the street and getting signatures.

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I, you get in trouble for that. You have to get

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permission from an Albertson's every Albertson.

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You can do that, but you have to get their permission.

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You have to you have to register with that state.

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They might have a packet with a certain form

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that the people would have to sign, you know,

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and I might just take a regular notebook paper

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and I'll reject that. Florida is very quirky.

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I can show you real quick. It's right here. It's

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like Florida is the first state I register with

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because obviously I live here. Right. Right.

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So so this is the Florida Department of State

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acknowledging my candidacy with the FEC. You

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know, my official filing papers, I'll be taking

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my screen off real quick. But I usually don't

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wear a screen. I don't know why I'm possessed

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me to put one on tonight. I hate them. But let's

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take this off real quick. Why would you start

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it like governor? I feel like I can't. I can't.

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I'll get to that. I can't. I can't. I can't run

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for no local office. I'm a felon. I'm a convicted

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felon. That's right. OK. So the only offices

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I can run for are two. President of the United

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States or a senator. That's it. Isn't that so

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funny, though, when you think of Congress? Yeah,

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there's a lot of felons. Yeah, they're all crooks.

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This is the paper that you got to get from each

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state. Granting you permission. Okay. To go out

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and then it tells you that you got to get the

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packet. You got to have take the people the right

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form. I have to print out 150 ,000. I'm doing

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a grassroots. I have not, I don't have no backing

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from the Democrats or the Republicans. I'm strictly

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paying for all this out of myself. As I start

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getting into it, hopefully I can, as I go out

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to meet people. I'm not a politician. I'm not.

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I was a born rich. I was a born a silver spoon.

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I don't have money. I'm an average guy, just

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like the average Joe that worked hard. I could

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relate with a lot of people in reality that hard

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working man. You're the American. I put my dues

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in. One thing I'll say, I never was afraid of

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work and I worked my whole life and I never missed

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a day's work. I did have I did have a great job

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to me because I love the game of baseball. So

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to me, it wasn't work. I went to a ballpark every

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day and had fun every day because I enjoyed what

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I did. But but I've done a lot of stupid stuff.

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I mean, being an addict and a function addict

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for 40 years, the very first time I became an

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addict, I was I was 21 years old, 20, but 20,

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21. Right. Just turned 21. But I dabbled when

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I was 18. Very first time. But only one night.

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And then I didn't like it. And then when I was

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21, I went full throttle. But I in that course

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between 21 and 31, I OD three times and almost

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died the third time really bad. Oh, so I broke

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away. from cocaine in 2007 after the last OD.

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And I stayed clean for a little while, but I

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was, it was tough for me. Very tough. And, uh,

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I had a lot of peer pressures. You know, I had

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to stay on top of my game at work. I was older

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now. The young guys are coming out of college,

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trying to take your job, trying to push you out

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the door, trying to get, go and step ahead of

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you to get to the big leagues, you know, working

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in the locker room. And so I had to stay on my

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game and I'm already a hyper person as it is.

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So me on cocaine being as hyper as I am. I was

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Joey 10 .01 cocaine. Oh, I can only imagine.

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Oh, wow. I mean, so I was introduced one night

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to this drug called methamphetamine and bad news,

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man. It's right. It was with me for all the way

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up until 2000 to the day I went to turn myself

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in to go to prison, which was November 7th, 2021.

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So I've been clean since 21. Oh, wow. And I struggled.

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I tried to get clean. I tried. I went to rehab

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only one time. I don't I don't believe in rehabs

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because I believe it's just a you're with a bunch

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of strangers and half the people are just going

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through the program to try to beat a case or

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something, you know, for the judge or whatever.

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And I always if I wanted to step away, I could

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step I could step away for four or five, six

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months at a time. But I, you know, I was very

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private. I didn't party. I didn't go out with

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a group of people and party at houses like that.

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I was a guy that I was locked away somewhere,

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you know, at nighttime by myself. I was on the

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road a lot baseball, so I spent a lot of time

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in hotels without my family. And then I would

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bring my kids down every month for a couple for

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a couple of weeks each month to spend time with

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me so I could see them. But I never I never my

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son came to me when he was 21 and said he someone

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had told him that while my ex after we divorced

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had to go tell the kids they were adults that

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their father was a drug addict. I don't know

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what purpose she gained out of that, but she

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did. I was going to know why. Why? They never

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knew. They never seen nothing. Right. And he

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asked me straight up and I couldn't lie to him

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when I sat down and I says, boy, I didn't I didn't

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see this day coming, you know, because I thought

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I was pretty good at sheltering it from them.

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And he knows I won't lie to him. I was very honest

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with him. And I think it even I thought I was

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going to lose a lot of respect for my kids from

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that point on. One of them I did. I lost a lot

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of respect from my oldest. She dissed herself

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very much for me. She she does. She does love

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me. And she tells me if you get cleaned, I promise

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you, you'll be back in your life. And I and I

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and I tried and tried until when she found out

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21 not to be clean. We're hoping to start building

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it up again. You know, my grandson's 18. Now

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he went to college. I missed a lot of years with

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him. But my son, my youngest son, I couldn't

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lie to him. I won't lie to my kids. I was always

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real. I told them all their life. I don't care

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what you do, good or bad. Don't ever be afraid

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to come to me and tell me because if you go and

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try to do something on your own and you don't

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include me to At least let me figure out what's

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the best option for you. So I've always tried

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to be not only the father, but a best friend

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to my kids so they could trust me. And I was

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the one they all came to. They knew they could

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tell me anything. And I'm glad I taught them

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that because some kids don't tell their parents.

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They don't tell them they're messing with a crowd

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with drugs and they wind up the parents find

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them dead and fentanyl somewhere. You know, you

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got to communicate with them. And I preach that

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every day to my kids. Listen, if you get involved

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with drugs, if you're doing anything that you

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should be doing, come to me right away. I'm not

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going to be angry. I'm going to be disappointed.

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I'm not going to. beat you. I'm not going to

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disown you. But I'm going to try to do the best

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to help you. And today, my youngest son, he's

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been working. He's working at the Olive Garden

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as a waiter. He worked hard to get a manager

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position. They offered him a manager job to his

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own restaurant. He got married two weeks ago

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to everybody knows to miles teller sister. Oh,

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yeah. And his whole life is great. And did he

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get married in the backyard? No, no, no, he went.

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My youngest daughter, my deaf daughter, obviously,

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everybody knows what she did to me and my wife.

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She's in prison still. She comes home in April.

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He wants to wait till she gets out to have the

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wedding. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. I'm gonna

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read a couple super chats. All right, Mike Donahue

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$2. Thank you so much. Joey C is the new buddy.

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See on G. You know who buddy Sanchez I have no

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idea. He's I think he's from pro I think he was

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the a guy from Providence. He was a really corrupt

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politician, but everybody loved him. Everybody

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loved him. He was like everybody's buddy. That's

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the name. Like Mayor Barry from Washington. He

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was corrupt too. Yeah. So that's a very New England

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reference from Mike there. Don't cool. Thank

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you. And Dan was generous to give five nice podcasts.

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Stupid. Give them away. You know, if you don't

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give them away, you know what? You got to give

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away your 10 a month. Got to give them away.

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I had it on. I have my unsworn board. It's my

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agenda. See, we nice. And I'm doing more show

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prep this year. So are you guys related? Are

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you guys a couple? Are you a friend? Friends?

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Friends? We're just friends. Did you guys did

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you guys you guys which are a long time or just

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met? Through the internet, like internet for

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a couple years now. I've watched you guys before

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and I like you guys. You guys got a good format.

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You guys do a good job. Yeah. I did have on my

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board free memberships. And you know what? Should

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we give away the rest so they have a whole month

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after we're going to get to these questions?

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I'll give out the other ones. And then I want

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to ask Joey, because I know Joey, you've got

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to you've got your show, I think, coming up tonight.

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So I postponed it. So I, but I, but I guess I

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can stay, I can stay, I can give you about 45

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minutes. All right. Cool. Whenever you want to

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bounce, you know, I can even give you an hour,

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you know, I got to show up to Saturday. The reason

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is when I went to check is that we lost, I didn't

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know bids on the storage units. And today they

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just started fresh orders 10 days out. So if

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I think now it's a waste, waste of time. So storage

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units costs, how much do those go for? Well,

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you bid on them. They start out at $10 and they

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can go, they can go up to thousands, you know,

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depending on what's in there. Do you do you know

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what's in it or you just it's like, yeah, I do

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online store. They give you you get a bunch of

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pictures. They open it up, snap pictures. Some

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of them are good. Some of them are not. So you

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see like boxes. There might be stuff that's good.

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Like baseball cards, you know, like they'll usually

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list like collectibles or artwork or tools or

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sometimes there's a car in there. It might be

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motorcycle in there. It could be a bunch of crap.

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Yeah, it'd be a bunch of crap. I mean, I've got

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a lot of crap, believe me. I do know my friend

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used to manage a storage facility. And when you

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bid and it's a bunch of crapola, you still got

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to haul it out and dispose of it now. It's your

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responsibility that you paid for. That's correct.

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And you got to leave them a cleaning deposit

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because if you don't clean it out, if you just

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think you can leave it there, that's why they

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get one or $200 upfront from you when you go

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pay for the unit. Right. You duck out there.

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That's they're cool with that because they'll

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keep your money. You don't get to deposit that.

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And what's the coolest thing you've found thus

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far? Um, it was an ordinary locker, which is

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just someone's house, just normal stuff, a TV,

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a couch, a bed, wrestlers, um, bathroom stuff,

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the, you know, the, the, the little plastic containers

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that you put, you know, people sometimes store

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it in the bathroom with toothpaste and inside

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the drawer inside, um, the Q -tip, it was buried

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inside the Q -tip. I found a 18 karat gold college

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ring from a college in Florida of the lawyer's

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college. Right. It was an old ring. And it belonged

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to the guy's father who was a lawyer. And I guess

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he went off to jail and the ring was in there.

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But it was his father, the history behind it

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was his father's who was a lawyer and graduated

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from this very well off college as a lawyer.

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And I guess the kid went to jail. And I got lucky

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and I got a pretty good penny for that. So yeah,

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yeah. And I found an old silver and old you know

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remember back in the early 1900s end 1800s the

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the the servants used to have the silver the

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999 silver trays when they would go to the to

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serve the people in the house this lady um and

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this wasn't actually stored i also went out and

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i looked at yard sales and i looked at you know

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flea markets this was at a yard sale so he had

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a box of silver and she had about this many in

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there and i went through the whole all but they

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were all silver plated you take a magnet if it

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sticks it's no good i get to the bottom one and

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it's tarnished real bad and it's Big and it's

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heavy and I went there and I go put the magnet

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and I turned to my wife christine I go this is

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real. I mean, this is real if this is real. This

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is about 1200 So I went nicely to the old lady

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because she said she was she was in a hurry She

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was being she had to move by by it was saturday.

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She had to be out of her apartment by sunday

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night So she needed to sell all this stuff. She

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needed money to move. So I went to her as honest.

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I could be a ma 'am You might want to rethink

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about that box before I bought it, because she

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sold me the whole box of 10 bucks. I will give

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you back 10 bucks. Why don't you take that box

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inside the house and go through it again? No,

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I don't want to just get it out of here. I asked

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her at least a dozen times. I said, ma 'am, are

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you sure? And I was trying to be very honest

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because I didn't want to. I couldn't take advantage

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of this old lady. I just couldn't once I found

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that there. And I don't know if she knew it.

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I don't think she had knew the value of it. And

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she just get out of here. I don't know. I don't

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want the money, you know, but I want you to get

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out of here. I don't want to see it. And I tried

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and I looked at my wife, I did right. Right.

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I tried. Right. She says, you damn sure did.

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So I went right to my silver guy. And I sure

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enough, I got $1 ,149 for that. Nice. Nice. Now,

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Joey, what do you think about the big news is

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Madura from Venezuela? And, and Dan, great question.

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This is day 12 member for four months. Yes, a

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lovely day to her name with the seasons and the

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mood and stuff. But we're going to be president.

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You know, obviously government foreign policy

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is going to be important for you. It's going

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to be important for me. And this is where I have

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to brush up, because like I said, the campaign

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I'm running is right now in the early stages.

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I'm trying to just connect with the ordinary

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people like me to show them I'm not a politician.

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I'm not I'm not I wasn't golden spoon mouth and

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a spoon in my mouth. Just like you, I've I've

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had my problems. I've I've I've struggled. I've

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lost jobs. I've been I've been where I needed

00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:47.420
money. You know, I want to connect with people.

00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:49.619
But you're right. Government is a big part of

00:23:49.619 --> 00:23:52.900
being a president. And to be honest with you,

00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:55.900
my wife was touching that was was watching this

00:23:55.900 --> 00:23:57.740
the other day. And that's where we went in and

00:23:57.740 --> 00:24:00.240
we captured him and we brought him here. We're

00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:03.559
going to play. I mean, whatever reason, Venezuela

00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:05.539
has been really tough with us. We don't barter

00:24:05.539 --> 00:24:07.700
with them. They don't they don't like us. It

00:24:07.700 --> 00:24:10.440
is the cheapest place to get gas. I know a lot

00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:12.799
of Venezuelan baseball players that live in Venezuelan

00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:14.420
coaches. Oh, yeah. They fill their whole tank

00:24:14.420 --> 00:24:16.119
up for seven bucks. Oh, yeah. They don't have

00:24:16.119 --> 00:24:18.140
taxes. It's like 11 cents a gallon or so. But

00:24:18.140 --> 00:24:22.000
not no more. We're. Yeah. But I know we're demanding

00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:25.160
so much oil all the time. Who's the best Venezuelan?

00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:28.359
Best Venezuelan. Best Venezuelan to me. Well,

00:24:28.359 --> 00:24:32.200
I don't like them, but Caprero. He had to be

00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:34.160
one of the best. You know, he's. There's a good

00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:35.640
chance he's going to be the next. He'll be the

00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:38.500
president of Venezuela someday. Really? Oh, wow.

00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:40.880
Yeah. I don't know. The president that was in

00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:43.259
for years was his best friend. And when he wasn't

00:24:43.259 --> 00:24:44.720
playing baseball, he spent a lot of time with

00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:47.259
that. I mean, he was with him like all the time.

00:24:47.259 --> 00:24:49.099
They grew up together and people were saying

00:24:49.099 --> 00:24:51.220
other Venezuelan people that I know saying he

00:24:51.220 --> 00:24:53.400
will be the president someday because he likes

00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:55.839
politics and he's very well popular in his countries.

00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:57.759
I didn't care for him. He was very arrogant.

00:24:57.960 --> 00:25:00.559
Yeah. He wasn't a nice guy to people. I don't

00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:02.380
like players when little kids come up to him

00:25:02.380 --> 00:25:04.259
in spring training. and ask for an autograph

00:25:04.259 --> 00:25:06.319
and they walk past them and don't sign it. Oh,

00:25:06.440 --> 00:25:08.519
yeah. That was one of my biggest things with

00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:11.019
players. I did not like that. It's a little kid.

00:25:11.099 --> 00:25:13.079
Give the kid take the time. Two minutes to sign

00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:14.680
the ball. And there's a lot of players that would

00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:16.759
just put their headphones on and little kids

00:25:16.759 --> 00:25:18.920
be begging them. I couldn't stand. No, I hate

00:25:18.920 --> 00:25:24.329
that. Yeah. That's disgraceful. What? I read.

00:25:24.750 --> 00:25:27.690
I sure do. Johnny Payton number eight. Thank

00:25:27.690 --> 00:25:31.069
you for the dollar nine. And Johnny wants to

00:25:31.069 --> 00:25:34.569
know where does Joe stand with Lou and also does

00:25:34.569 --> 00:25:37.190
VTL still owe you 100? Yes, Vince Vince still

00:25:37.190 --> 00:25:39.910
owes me 100. That's a fact. I got nothing bad

00:25:39.910 --> 00:25:42.970
to say about Lou. No, we both were heated. I

00:25:42.970 --> 00:25:45.490
said some things he said some things. At one

00:25:45.490 --> 00:25:48.309
time I considered Lou when there's a difference

00:25:48.309 --> 00:25:49.849
when you stream with someone you never met him.

00:25:50.109 --> 00:25:51.990
But when you get when someone lives in your same

00:25:51.990 --> 00:25:54.119
backyard, you see each other. potentially every

00:25:54.119 --> 00:25:56.380
day and you go to lunch and you hang out, you

00:25:56.380 --> 00:25:58.359
build a friendship. And I really consider Lube.

00:25:58.460 --> 00:26:00.599
I still do. We're not on speaking terms. And

00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:02.400
I just leave it at that. You know, maybe someday

00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:04.680
we it's kind of like Abbott and Costello when

00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:08.799
they separated or, or Lauren Hardy already separated,

00:26:09.099 --> 00:26:11.200
you know, Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis, you know,

00:26:11.220 --> 00:26:13.339
maybe 20 years from now, Lou and I will do a

00:26:13.339 --> 00:26:15.579
show together. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah,

00:26:15.579 --> 00:26:18.059
I'm sure you always keep the door open. That's

00:26:18.059 --> 00:26:20.480
right. As a friend, I think Lou is I love Lou

00:26:20.480 --> 00:26:22.920
to death. He we had a lot of good times, but

00:26:23.130 --> 00:26:26.130
I got nothing to really say to him anymore. And

00:26:26.130 --> 00:26:27.849
he really we don't talk. So we just leave it

00:26:27.849 --> 00:26:29.829
at that. So Johan said, yeah, another another

00:26:29.829 --> 00:26:31.849
great Venezuela. He was a good player. He's good.

00:26:31.950 --> 00:26:34.529
Johan's a good player. Definitely. So I just

00:26:34.529 --> 00:26:36.130
wanted to say we haven't we have another guest

00:26:36.130 --> 00:26:38.490
that's going to come on in a sec. But I saw I

00:26:38.490 --> 00:26:43.170
was I did I was on John show with her a couple

00:26:43.170 --> 00:26:45.609
of months ago. OK, so she just left. Hopefully

00:26:45.609 --> 00:26:47.390
she'll come back here. I got no problem. I never

00:26:47.390 --> 00:26:49.710
had a problem with her. So yeah, awesome. Before

00:26:49.710 --> 00:26:51.430
we do that, though, I want to ask you. So we

00:26:51.430 --> 00:26:54.670
did a poll to start off the show. I voted. Oh,

00:26:54.690 --> 00:26:58.390
you did. I did, too. Would you vote for Joe Buckman?

00:26:58.410 --> 00:27:00.809
Small Buckman. OK, so tell us a little bit about.

00:27:01.190 --> 00:27:03.829
So what's the deal? Like you guys had like a

00:27:03.829 --> 00:27:05.910
some sort of thing at Hackamania. Like what's

00:27:05.910 --> 00:27:09.170
the very first time this guy laid eyes on me

00:27:09.170 --> 00:27:12.309
and he he he he walks around. First of all, he's

00:27:12.309 --> 00:27:14.490
a big kiss ass. He's a hobnobs with all the with

00:27:14.490 --> 00:27:16.069
all. Before you say anything, I just want to

00:27:16.069 --> 00:27:17.950
just give something that happened tonight. Okay,

00:27:17.950 --> 00:27:20.009
so schmool buckman knew that we were doing an

00:27:20.009 --> 00:27:22.130
extreme and I saw that yeah at nine o 'clock

00:27:22.130 --> 00:27:24.369
nine o 'clock He could do it at any get any time

00:27:24.369 --> 00:27:26.769
possible. You know, that's a hack. You know that

00:27:26.769 --> 00:27:29.869
right? Yeah. Oh, yeah So schmool buckman is a

00:27:29.869 --> 00:27:32.990
guy that he rubs elbows with all the with everybody

00:27:32.990 --> 00:27:36.269
truly and to be dabblers and Anybody that's big

00:27:36.269 --> 00:27:39.490
time. He he he thinks he knows everything. He

00:27:39.490 --> 00:27:41.970
thinks he's the most educated everybody He thinks

00:27:41.970 --> 00:27:44.009
he had it all figured out and the very first

00:27:44.009 --> 00:27:45.730
time I laid eyes on him I didn't even know my

00:27:45.730 --> 00:27:47.400
wife had to pay the conversation with him He

00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:49.720
just gave me a look, a staredown look like I

00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:51.119
could feel the vibe that this guy didn't like

00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:53.119
me. And then shortly after that, I don't know

00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:55.279
what was it before that. I had a big fall out

00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:57.420
with him on a Ray DeVito show. We had a big Ray

00:27:57.420 --> 00:28:00.779
brought him on and boxed me in on a show and,

00:28:00.779 --> 00:28:03.759
uh, it went kind of bad, but shmoo. I don't think

00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:05.940
he ever liked me. He lies and says he likes people

00:28:05.940 --> 00:28:08.339
and he does this. He does that, but he lies and,

00:28:08.339 --> 00:28:10.380
uh, he just thinks he's more relevant than he

00:28:10.380 --> 00:28:12.940
is. And he thinks he knows everything and he

00:28:12.940 --> 00:28:14.880
he's the guy that is the guy, you know what I'm

00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:18.250
saying? And, and. He's always he screamed at

00:28:18.250 --> 00:28:20.029
me one day. He said, you know, you're you're

00:28:20.029 --> 00:28:21.730
so ungrateful You don't take rock. Oh, it's been

00:28:21.730 --> 00:28:24.009
trying to be right by you and and you don't listen

00:28:24.009 --> 00:28:26.029
to nobody You just you're just stubborn in it,

00:28:26.049 --> 00:28:27.869
you know, you're gonna go nowhere. You're a loser

00:28:27.869 --> 00:28:30.589
and he just kept repeatedly Called me names wanting

00:28:30.589 --> 00:28:32.069
me to go on a show. I'm like, I'm not gonna I

00:28:32.069 --> 00:28:34.150
don't take that shit from you I go on your show.

00:28:34.230 --> 00:28:35.329
You have to come on. You want to fucking dump

00:28:35.329 --> 00:28:38.049
on me? Uh, no ain't gonna happen pal. So I just

00:28:38.049 --> 00:28:40.789
you know me I try to like everybody I'm cool

00:28:40.789 --> 00:28:42.289
with everybody. I thought didn't we didn't we

00:28:42.289 --> 00:28:43.690
were together on john stream a couple months

00:28:43.690 --> 00:28:45.759
ago. Didn't you and I Absolutely. I'm a huge

00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:48.380
fan of yours. Yeah, and I told I got I thought

00:28:48.380 --> 00:28:49.859
I said I thought I did a show with Ava and John

00:28:49.859 --> 00:28:52.099
a couple months ago I believe I did absolutely

00:28:52.099 --> 00:28:55.200
So shmoo I just I just he just rubs me the wrong

00:28:55.200 --> 00:29:00.799
way, but Yeah, I talked to you like that, you

00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:03.359
know, and he just he has an opinion about everything

00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:06.440
and he He thinks you know looking he's got no

00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:09.660
eyebrows. He's got this pale face He looks like

00:29:09.660 --> 00:29:12.009
he looks like a psycho serial killer He does.

00:29:12.009 --> 00:29:13.289
He's the guy that, I mean, if you see walking

00:29:13.289 --> 00:29:15.309
down a dark alley, you would have run. And he

00:29:15.309 --> 00:29:16.910
thinks, I think he really thinks he's like a

00:29:16.910 --> 00:29:19.730
hot guy. Oh, no, no, no, no. I think he thinks

00:29:19.730 --> 00:29:22.369
that. He's definitely wrong. You know, he just

00:29:22.369 --> 00:29:24.730
has a lot of... I'm no beauty, but like, I mean,

00:29:25.049 --> 00:29:34.420
neither is he. You look lovely. I like your hair.

00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:37.559
I like your bangs and I like that. Are you wearing

00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:40.140
a shirt address? I like that pattern. It's a

00:29:40.140 --> 00:29:43.480
good 70s dress. I love it. I love it. You forgot

00:29:43.480 --> 00:30:04.630
to give our entrance. All right. And we're back.

00:30:05.009 --> 00:30:07.150
Welcome to the show. Thank you so much for joining.

00:30:07.369 --> 00:30:10.329
Great to finally come on. Big fan. I'm so happy.

00:30:10.710 --> 00:30:12.349
Yes. Absolutely. We're happy to have you. And

00:30:12.349 --> 00:30:14.529
you have you have we came in with talking about

00:30:14.529 --> 00:30:17.190
Buckman. I'll tell you one thing that was interesting.

00:30:17.430 --> 00:30:23.390
And I think it was last week. I couldn't take

00:30:23.390 --> 00:30:28.509
that one. Not bad at all. You were on with Buckman

00:30:28.509 --> 00:30:30.730
on something. I forget what it was. Oh, it was.

00:30:30.789 --> 00:30:34.799
Was it Husey? Maybe the recent one. Yeah. It

00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:36.839
was kind of like going back and forth with him

00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:39.299
and he, he made a comment that I thought was

00:30:39.299 --> 00:30:43.059
very telling, which I think was something that

00:30:43.059 --> 00:30:45.400
not shocked me because I know Buckman, but he

00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:47.200
made a comment. You guys were kind of debating

00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:49.299
and he's like, you know, I've, I never held it

00:30:49.299 --> 00:30:51.400
against you about you being trans. I never brought

00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:53.920
that up before. He made like this weird veiled

00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:56.140
thing of like, that he was like holding back

00:30:56.140 --> 00:30:58.599
on criticizing you for being trans. And I found

00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:00.900
that to be very weird. And it's another thing

00:31:00.900 --> 00:31:03.099
too, that came up with Tukey. And we're going

00:31:03.099 --> 00:31:04.700
to talk a little bit about Tukey at some point

00:31:04.700 --> 00:31:07.880
tonight, but he also, you know, he had his little

00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:10.180
kind of spaz out this week. And I know you were,

00:31:10.380 --> 00:31:11.779
obviously you were kind of saying things about

00:31:11.779 --> 00:31:13.279
him and sort of messing with him and sending

00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:15.440
him super chats, but then he started kind of

00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:18.539
doing the trans thing. And once again, You know

00:31:18.539 --> 00:31:20.400
people have their thoughts or whatever, but it

00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:23.880
just feels like really like sleazy and low to

00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:26.440
kind of Degrade yourself to like oh, well, let

00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:29.079
me say her name and let me do this and let me

00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:31.460
oh, you're you know You shouldn't be taken, you

00:31:31.460 --> 00:31:33.059
know, seriously because you're trans or whatever.

00:31:33.059 --> 00:31:35.180
It's just like I don't know I I You know, i'm

00:31:35.180 --> 00:31:36.900
an asshole, but I feel like i'm kind of above

00:31:36.900 --> 00:31:39.039
some of that. I don't know I feel like I agree

00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:41.240
with you I don't care what you are if you're

00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:44.099
a good person inside and and you project To be

00:31:44.099 --> 00:31:45.519
a decent person. It don't matter. I don't care

00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:48.440
what anybody is. You know i'm saying I get along

00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:50.359
with everybody. You know, I don't care if you're

00:31:50.359 --> 00:31:51.759
trans. I don't care if you're gay. I don't give

00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:53.700
you bisexual. I don't care if you're a woman

00:31:53.700 --> 00:31:57.000
or a child. If you act accordingly when you need

00:31:57.000 --> 00:31:59.119
to be when in the real world and you're in your

00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:02.220
you care, have self respect. How can you not

00:32:02.220 --> 00:32:04.220
like somebody? But people in this dabble verse,

00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:07.259
they I mean, it got to the point that when I

00:32:07.259 --> 00:32:09.579
finally figured out to just overlook it, they

00:32:09.579 --> 00:32:11.460
believe anything that's told to their way or

00:32:11.460 --> 00:32:13.319
they'll take something I'll say. And by 10 people,

00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:15.380
by the time he gets a temper, I'm a complete

00:32:15.380 --> 00:32:19.140
liar. No good piece of shit. You know, And everybody

00:32:19.140 --> 00:32:20.339
said, why do you feel the need? Did you have

00:32:20.339 --> 00:32:22.339
that? And that's what I was doing wrong. I was

00:32:22.339 --> 00:32:23.759
always trying to prove the wrong, which I did

00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:25.759
every time. If they came out and made false stuff

00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:27.480
about me, I would dig out the paperwork in front.

00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:29.380
But I was wrong to do that. I should have never

00:32:29.380 --> 00:32:32.519
gave them no time at all, you know? That's what

00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:34.519
I did wrong. That's another reason why I stepped

00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:38.180
out. So. Ava, Dateswa wants to know, and so do

00:32:38.180 --> 00:32:40.299
I. Is that a dick in that photo on the wall?

00:32:40.339 --> 00:32:43.000
Because I was staring at it, that over your shoulder.

00:32:43.539 --> 00:32:46.200
No, it's a woman's face in the. You don't see

00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:48.660
the colors. It's like a psychedelic. Oh, one

00:32:48.660 --> 00:32:50.220
of those. Like it looks like a skull, but then

00:32:50.220 --> 00:32:52.660
it looks like, you know, I love that. We're going

00:32:52.660 --> 00:32:55.359
to take a dick. Now I'm seeing the day now. Now

00:32:55.359 --> 00:33:01.240
I have to remove it. I think my channel struck

00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:04.759
you. And Dan, I have one for you. I got to go

00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:07.920
back. This is my friend, Frankfurt. And he wants

00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:11.519
to know if you saw the pic comparison of your

00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:14.160
shoulders to panties. Well, first off, yes, I

00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:16.559
did see the picture. And yes, panhandler has

00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:19.380
a better, I guess, broader shoulders than me.

00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:22.000
He's actually a very tall gentleman. I believe

00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:23.720
he's kind of like a guy. He looks like a big,

00:33:23.740 --> 00:33:28.359
big dude. I'm shorter. And I used to play football.

00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:30.720
I used to have kind of like the trap kind of

00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:33.079
thing that goes up there. So Yeah, I guess my

00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:35.539
shoulders are not broad. I think it's also my

00:33:35.539 --> 00:33:37.779
posture, which I, so whenever people bring that

00:33:37.779 --> 00:33:39.460
up, I'm like, I need to, you'll even see me sometimes

00:33:39.460 --> 00:33:41.519
doing that. Cause I tend to lean in. You have

00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:44.140
any spare shoulder pads from some of the dresses

00:33:44.140 --> 00:33:48.619
we can send them? I do. I have like a bin of

00:33:48.619 --> 00:33:54.339
just cut out shoulder pads. These shoulders are

00:33:54.339 --> 00:33:57.779
like with karmic. It's like you you used to be

00:33:57.779 --> 00:33:59.859
fat. So like you got yours. You have stretch

00:33:59.859 --> 00:34:03.019
marks and you have big dies. Like all these like

00:34:03.019 --> 00:34:06.759
guys here like make these weird physical observations

00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:09.079
that are kind of you all used to be kids too.

00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:11.099
But you know, you all grow up and become someone

00:34:11.099 --> 00:34:14.960
else. I don't have the Mr. Panhandler. He has

00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:17.059
like those palsy or something awful. I do want

00:34:17.059 --> 00:34:19.440
to have a compliment. I've never seen anybody

00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:22.000
go after people. the way she does. She reminds

00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:25.159
me so much. Not afraid to tell her. I wish she

00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:27.059
was around two years ago when I was fighting

00:34:27.059 --> 00:34:28.820
all the trolls. I could have had someone that

00:34:28.820 --> 00:34:30.699
could be, you know, on the other side of me,

00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:33.460
because doing it by yourself, it's fun. But you

00:34:33.460 --> 00:34:35.480
you definitely are not afraid to go after people.

00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:37.739
And I and I respect that madly over for you,

00:34:37.739 --> 00:34:39.739
Ben. That's awesome. I would have been right

00:34:39.739 --> 00:34:41.940
there behind you. Like, no, that's kind of what's

00:34:41.940 --> 00:34:44.800
frustrating about the two key and the smolding

00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:47.980
like schmul knows more than. Anyone they've just

00:34:47.980 --> 00:34:50.659
written this story that like I'm like this like

00:34:50.659 --> 00:34:53.340
woke person that like gets mad somebody like

00:34:53.340 --> 00:34:56.059
Insults me for being trans and it's like that's

00:34:56.059 --> 00:34:58.059
not what's been going on at all But like everyone

00:34:58.059 --> 00:35:00.320
just believes them like yeah, it's like Joe I'll

00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:02.599
just fight you and and get in the dirt with you

00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:07.760
and you get in the dirt with me Yeah, I've made

00:35:08.059 --> 00:35:10.500
A lot of straight men cry and like delete their

00:35:10.500 --> 00:35:13.579
twitters here in our fights. You seem like the

00:35:13.579 --> 00:35:15.739
opposite of woke. So like, I don't know where

00:35:15.739 --> 00:35:17.260
these people are getting this thing. Like you

00:35:17.260 --> 00:35:19.699
came in, you know, looking for some special,

00:35:19.699 --> 00:35:22.239
you know, I think they can't handle it because

00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:25.510
I'm hitting. Me, I'm hitting them on what makes

00:35:25.510 --> 00:35:27.289
them uncomfortable, which is that they're not

00:35:27.289 --> 00:35:29.630
funny and that they're irrelevant now. And so

00:35:29.630 --> 00:35:31.409
they wanted to make it like about the dead name

00:35:31.409 --> 00:35:33.210
thing. And I've explained this so many times,

00:35:33.250 --> 00:35:35.030
they just ignore it. There's nothing to do with

00:35:35.030 --> 00:35:37.610
me being hurt by someone saying my birth name.

00:35:37.769 --> 00:35:39.530
It was like that. There was a moment I was having

00:35:39.530 --> 00:35:41.989
a human reaction to people figure out my address

00:35:41.989 --> 00:35:44.269
because somebody leaked that dead name and they

00:35:44.269 --> 00:35:46.679
were searching it that way. They've just rewritten

00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:49.059
it where it's like no obvious. Just like reddit

00:35:49.059 --> 00:35:51.320
tranny That's just like oh blocking and whatever

00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:53.760
and it's just like not true at all Like I came

00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:56.099
here like base is fucking just get in the mud

00:35:56.099 --> 00:35:58.980
with people and again The guys like them are

00:35:58.980 --> 00:36:01.980
the ones that cry like bitches like tuky final

00:36:01.980 --> 00:36:04.780
boss Everyone else says like i'm fucking scared

00:36:04.780 --> 00:36:07.539
off the fucking screen not by my face But by

00:36:07.539 --> 00:36:10.000
like just hitting them where it hurts and that's

00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:11.920
yeah, and I got a lot of heart a lot of heart

00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:15.469
You have a lot of heart and I think um What happened

00:36:15.469 --> 00:36:19.809
to is aligning yourself with Stuttering John.

00:36:19.969 --> 00:36:23.969
Proud of it. And that's good. Good for you. But

00:36:23.969 --> 00:36:27.769
it comes at a cost. Absolutely. It really does.

00:36:27.869 --> 00:36:31.750
So I got to hand it to you. Don't know I'm gonna

00:36:31.750 --> 00:36:34.389
be honest. I don't know how sometimes you can

00:36:34.389 --> 00:36:37.530
hold a conversation with him because he's like

00:36:37.530 --> 00:36:41.389
a toddler and When there are multiple people

00:36:41.389 --> 00:36:43.570
this is just my observation but when there are

00:36:43.570 --> 00:36:46.969
multiple people on with stuttering John and I've

00:36:46.969 --> 00:36:49.170
like you were on with clay I think or somebody

00:36:49.170 --> 00:36:52.789
and having a really cool side. Oh, it was Grindle.

00:36:52.849 --> 00:36:55.449
It was Grindle. Were you on with Grindle? Yeah

00:36:56.400 --> 00:37:00.480
The guy that was on the other night. Yeah, yeah,

00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:05.380
yeah, yeah, yeah, you were. And I think you really

00:37:05.380 --> 00:37:09.360
would like Jim. He's into art films and making

00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:12.460
he's very creative. So definitely, you know,

00:37:12.460 --> 00:37:14.960
he's a cool guy for you to get to know. He's

00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:18.539
just interesting. But I noticed you didn't seem

00:37:18.539 --> 00:37:20.199
to know how to take him. He's very kind of got

00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:23.269
this like. humor that comes around and hits you

00:37:23.269 --> 00:37:26.329
at the angle you're not looking at. So he's awesome.

00:37:26.769 --> 00:37:29.230
That platform is not the best showcase for anyone

00:37:29.230 --> 00:37:31.989
that's not John. And it's like not the best showcase

00:37:31.989 --> 00:37:34.570
for me as a conversation list and all that. But

00:37:34.570 --> 00:37:37.469
I do love John and I like those hangouts. So

00:37:37.469 --> 00:37:39.250
he's like, Hey, you want to come on? I was like,

00:37:39.250 --> 00:37:41.010
I'll have a couple beers and talk to John on

00:37:41.010 --> 00:37:43.090
a stream. Right. But yeah, so I can see how that

00:37:43.090 --> 00:37:44.730
wasn't hit. That's why I was trying to just ask

00:37:44.730 --> 00:37:46.449
him like these pointed questions to just kind

00:37:46.449 --> 00:37:49.369
of break the break the leg. thing and so it could.

00:37:49.590 --> 00:37:51.550
Yeah, but I didn't take away that he was a bad

00:37:51.550 --> 00:37:54.190
guy or anything like that. No, no. I just thought

00:37:54.190 --> 00:37:57.329
I'm sorry, Joey. I just thought like a couple

00:37:57.329 --> 00:38:00.349
of times I was watching your interactions and

00:38:00.349 --> 00:38:02.449
it seemed like you were kind of like not sure

00:38:02.449 --> 00:38:05.389
how to take him. And he'll say something that's

00:38:05.389 --> 00:38:08.949
a joke, but very serious. And it's not an obvious

00:38:08.949 --> 00:38:11.849
joke. Well, but you know, this this space train.

00:38:12.250 --> 00:38:14.690
I know, I know. Not paranoid, but like just ready

00:38:14.690 --> 00:38:19.119
for an ambush. And so he did like a couple things

00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:21.199
where it's like, oh, is he going to do like a

00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:22.719
flip a switch? And so I was just trying to be

00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:24.519
like, all right, if we can do that, like, let's

00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:26.219
rush this along and let me ask you a couple of

00:38:26.219 --> 00:38:28.340
questions to get there. But no, he seems fine.

00:38:28.860 --> 00:38:32.179
He's cool. Yeah, he's cool. And but getting back

00:38:32.179 --> 00:38:34.980
to what I was saying is there was like a side

00:38:34.980 --> 00:38:39.699
conversation with with Jim about his work with

00:38:39.699 --> 00:38:42.820
the Democratic Party and the votes and illegal

00:38:42.820 --> 00:38:47.469
votes. And John is not. interested in any conversation

00:38:47.469 --> 00:38:51.489
that isn't about John and I find that frustrating

00:38:51.489 --> 00:38:55.090
and I would I've been invited to go on his show

00:38:55.090 --> 00:38:59.170
through his intermediate who I won't name but

00:38:59.170 --> 00:39:02.570
um and I've always refused number one I don't

00:39:02.570 --> 00:39:05.010
need that kind of smoke I'll be honest with you

00:39:05.010 --> 00:39:08.130
I get along with his enemies I get along with

00:39:08.130 --> 00:39:12.230
pretty much almost everybody and You know, and

00:39:12.230 --> 00:39:15.409
I don't know what I would say to him. I don't

00:39:15.409 --> 00:39:18.250
think I could have a conversation with him because

00:39:18.250 --> 00:39:22.210
it's on a simplistic level. Right. And he's not

00:39:22.210 --> 00:39:25.110
he doesn't want to know about you. I never hear

00:39:25.110 --> 00:39:28.050
him say, how is your day? What? How was your

00:39:28.050 --> 00:39:31.809
day at work? What were you up to? It's always

00:39:31.809 --> 00:39:35.469
got to go back to him. You know, he treats Clay

00:39:35.469 --> 00:39:38.610
Dabler terribly. He really does for the most

00:39:38.610 --> 00:39:41.809
loyal person. I got to say this. I'm sorry. No,

00:39:41.809 --> 00:39:45.110
I did a lot of streams with John for seven to

00:39:45.110 --> 00:39:48.110
10 months. I went on every show defending him

00:39:48.110 --> 00:39:50.170
point to point. I was the guy that they were

00:39:50.170 --> 00:39:51.670
trashing him and I was the guy trying to convince

00:39:51.670 --> 00:39:53.610
him, but he was good. I butt heads with everybody.

00:39:53.929 --> 00:39:58.829
John does come off on stream hard. But he's not

00:39:58.829 --> 00:40:01.130
when John, you have a private conversation with

00:40:01.130 --> 00:40:04.550
John. John's John is is an intelligent guy. He

00:40:04.550 --> 00:40:07.789
really is. He's also a nice guy and a nice guy.

00:40:07.989 --> 00:40:10.539
He wears his heart on his sleeve. But John's

00:40:10.539 --> 00:40:12.980
a showman. He knows show business. People could

00:40:12.980 --> 00:40:14.480
say whatever they want about Stutter and John,

00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:16.539
but here's the bottom line. No matter what you

00:40:16.539 --> 00:40:18.840
think or what wrong you think he's done, he still

00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:20.659
made all those accomplishments, whether he deserved

00:40:20.659 --> 00:40:23.659
them or not. He did those accomplishments that

00:40:23.659 --> 00:40:25.519
no one could even get close to those things.

00:40:25.659 --> 00:40:27.960
He had a record company. He was on Jay Leno.

00:40:28.260 --> 00:40:31.199
He was on Howard Stern. John took whatever he

00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:34.199
had and pushed himself forward every inch he

00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:36.739
could to be better and to go and to go away to

00:40:36.739 --> 00:40:39.119
just climb the ladder. He was an expert at that.

00:40:39.070 --> 00:40:41.650
Now how he was in his personal life. I really

00:40:41.650 --> 00:40:43.730
don't care I mean outside of a couple things

00:40:43.730 --> 00:40:45.570
that I didn't disagree that I disagree But you

00:40:45.570 --> 00:40:48.329
know what I evaluate myself and say you've done

00:40:48.329 --> 00:40:50.849
some shitty things, too Now i'm friends with

00:40:50.849 --> 00:40:53.269
I was friends with everybody surely right surely

00:40:53.269 --> 00:40:55.809
never I made it. I told you I don't ever squeeze

00:40:55.809 --> 00:40:57.309
me against John i'm not talking about you You

00:40:57.309 --> 00:40:58.690
can talk about john all you want on your show

00:40:58.690 --> 00:41:00.230
Because john used to get mad when I go on the

00:41:00.230 --> 00:41:01.690
show and i'm saying john Did you hear me say

00:41:01.690 --> 00:41:03.710
anything bad about you? No, I used to make that

00:41:03.710 --> 00:41:06.650
point I will not talk bad about john now. I had

00:41:06.650 --> 00:41:09.639
a falling out with john because of my own stupidness

00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:11.800
and I took things out of content with my wife

00:41:11.800 --> 00:41:15.500
and but John always said one thing he says there

00:41:15.500 --> 00:41:17.019
was always something about me that he couldn't

00:41:17.019 --> 00:41:19.599
stay mad at me I've taught John John is demanding

00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:21.079
he likes to talk a lot on the phone when you're

00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:23.239
his buddy you know he likes to call you a lot

00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:26.719
um but he's he's he's he could be a real good

00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:28.900
guy yes he's very demanding he expects a lot

00:41:28.900 --> 00:41:30.739
of things out of you he don't expect you to show

00:41:30.739 --> 00:41:33.219
him up I mean he would call me up if he was bad

00:41:33.219 --> 00:41:35.239
at me expect me you're gonna apologize me in

00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:37.219
front of everybody And I laughed at him. I go,

00:41:37.380 --> 00:41:39.019
you ain't getting that apology like that for

00:41:39.019 --> 00:41:41.780
me, you know, but he understood. We had an understanding.

00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:43.940
People lied to him and said that I was, I was,

00:41:43.940 --> 00:41:46.119
I was trying to pour him bottom. I did this stuff

00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:48.099
and deep down I go, you think about that, John,

00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:49.880
would you ask me? And the next day he would say,

00:41:49.900 --> 00:41:51.539
you know, I, I know you could, I would never,

00:41:51.619 --> 00:41:53.780
I would never go on anybody's show. It happened

00:41:53.780 --> 00:41:56.199
to me twice. I could never go try to hurt somebody's

00:41:56.199 --> 00:41:58.659
channel because they don't like me. People came

00:41:58.659 --> 00:42:00.719
out and tried to take my channel for me. They

00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:03.170
did a lot of bad things to me. And I just I'm

00:42:03.170 --> 00:42:04.989
not like that. I'm not going to try to take your

00:42:04.989 --> 00:42:06.429
channel away. I'm not going to point. I'm not

00:42:06.429 --> 00:42:08.329
going to do stupid, silly stuff like that. I'm

00:42:08.329 --> 00:42:11.530
not. It's not my character. And John, I grew

00:42:11.530 --> 00:42:14.349
to understand him. I consider him a friend. I

00:42:14.349 --> 00:42:17.389
always did. I'm glad that we made amends. And

00:42:17.389 --> 00:42:19.429
for the most part, John's always treated me with

00:42:19.429 --> 00:42:22.630
respect. And he's always been he's always he's

00:42:22.630 --> 00:42:25.449
always made me laugh now. Absolutely. That's

00:42:25.449 --> 00:42:27.679
100 percent. I'll give him all that. So. Yeah,

00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:29.760
if I can piggyback off of that like I get what

00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:32.500
you're saying Deb too and it's kind of like you

00:42:32.500 --> 00:42:34.940
can you kind of have your Corner with this show

00:42:34.940 --> 00:42:37.880
and it's awesome what you do and like yeah I

00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:39.860
think if you go into that show you have to understand

00:42:39.860 --> 00:42:42.739
what you're going into so I don't like Hold them

00:42:42.739 --> 00:42:44.340
against it because I know that's how his show

00:42:44.340 --> 00:42:47.159
goes and I find like my little spot in it And

00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:49.099
I'm more and more comfortable as time goes on

00:42:49.099 --> 00:42:51.920
and to me look good I think you're great with

00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:55.559
him and I think you're sort of a John Wrangler.

00:42:55.900 --> 00:42:59.900
And I also do like Clay's dynamic because the

00:42:59.900 --> 00:43:04.000
things Clay says sort of out of John's earshot,

00:43:04.139 --> 00:43:06.380
you know, these little like jabs. And I like

00:43:06.380 --> 00:43:09.219
that, you know. Well, Clay, Clay is like king

00:43:09.219 --> 00:43:13.099
in there, like next to John. I mean, I have no

00:43:13.099 --> 00:43:17.219
ill will to John at all. I just just just well,

00:43:17.380 --> 00:43:20.599
we're kind of talking about John. Why do so many

00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:24.440
people think? Well, first off, John is the Antichrist,

00:43:24.460 --> 00:43:27.239
which I don't understand. He's just a dude. You

00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:30.480
know, the amount of fixation on this guy makes

00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:33.460
no sense to me. As someone who's sort of neutral,

00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:36.500
I don't get it. And I get that, okay, he's a

00:43:36.500 --> 00:43:39.500
colorful character and he's famous and you know,

00:43:39.500 --> 00:43:41.099
he's got some personal things or whatever. But

00:43:41.099 --> 00:43:43.960
like, he's not that interesting that so many

00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.199
people should be spending as much time as they

00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:48.900
do fixate on. But then to take it to another

00:43:48.900 --> 00:43:51.840
level, anyone that Associates with him or goes

00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:54.360
on his show like you're like, that's like the

00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:57.480
oh my god That's that's an unforgivable thing

00:43:57.480 --> 00:43:59.519
to just go on like I just went on and had some

00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:01.840
fun I was got to meet someone that it was interesting

00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:04.800
and I you know I didn't really have any ulterior

00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:06.579
motive other than hey, it was it was a cool thing

00:44:06.579 --> 00:44:08.900
to do So but there's somebody oh my god, I can't

00:44:08.900 --> 00:44:10.739
believe you did you're doing that or you would

00:44:10.739 --> 00:44:12.860
consider doing that? And I'm like to me it doesn't

00:44:12.860 --> 00:44:15.360
I don't I don't think it's that big of a deal

00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:18.559
So it's just weird and I know of a maybe since

00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:21.510
you're so in That world like why do you think

00:44:21.510 --> 00:44:24.170
people react like that? I think that this is

00:44:24.170 --> 00:44:26.170
why I like you guys and you can still give me

00:44:26.170 --> 00:44:28.429
shit if you want to about whatever But like I

00:44:28.429 --> 00:44:29.829
think it's because you guys are free thinkers

00:44:29.829 --> 00:44:32.269
and so like when you say it that way that makes

00:44:32.269 --> 00:44:35.130
perfect sense Like that's they they like they

00:44:35.130 --> 00:44:37.670
started posting pictures of looking you up and

00:44:37.670 --> 00:44:39.730
all that just for going on that way That's how

00:44:39.730 --> 00:44:42.250
it started with me and him this year. I just

00:44:42.250 --> 00:44:44.849
went on his show and I didn't say anything controversial

00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:46.760
and then that's when people just like started

00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:48.820
like running background checks on me and all

00:44:48.820 --> 00:44:51.579
just for going on the show and just kind of being

00:44:51.579 --> 00:44:53.739
like hi and he had a thing he wanted to resolve

00:44:53.739 --> 00:44:55.619
with me and he was like he told me i hurt his

00:44:55.619 --> 00:44:57.000
feelings and i was like i didn't realize i hurt

00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:59.179
your feelings i'm sorry and everyone's like yeah

00:44:59.179 --> 00:45:01.420
and then it's just suddenly you're just his enemy

00:45:01.420 --> 00:45:04.400
there's like reds about you and and everyone's

00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:06.659
just pulling up information because i think everyone

00:45:06.659 --> 00:45:09.639
here is so like like you know hive -minded about

00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:12.880
it but like and tribal everybody's very tribal

00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:17.389
and this camp And this camp, there can't be any

00:45:17.389 --> 00:45:20.250
crossover, it seems. Absolutely. You know, you're

00:45:20.250 --> 00:45:22.409
either with us or you're against us. And if you're

00:45:22.409 --> 00:45:25.849
against us, look out. Right. And, you know, like

00:45:25.849 --> 00:45:28.030
I had a sense of that because I used to go and

00:45:28.030 --> 00:45:31.750
show like semi regularly. And but I didn't realize

00:45:31.750 --> 00:45:34.849
like how dark it gets, like just like people

00:45:34.849 --> 00:45:38.210
really have psychologically invested in him failing.

00:45:38.309 --> 00:45:40.449
And for them, it's like part of their like, I

00:45:40.449 --> 00:45:43.400
guess, coping mechanisms for. their days and

00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:45.440
their careers and they want to come home and

00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:48.320
laugh at John and if anybody like tries to normalize

00:45:48.320 --> 00:45:50.519
him or just doesn't insult him they just freak

00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:53.900
the fuck out. It's an odd thing but at this point

00:45:53.900 --> 00:45:56.500
they've like turned me into Evil Mu and I'm here

00:45:56.500 --> 00:45:59.199
for and fuck them and I'm sorry like I'm happy

00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:02.019
to go on John's show. To me the personalities

00:46:02.019 --> 00:46:04.400
to pick at are people like Shuley and Carl who

00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:07.019
are a bunch of paper tigers and Naotuki too.

00:46:07.300 --> 00:46:09.820
Like that to me is more interesting. And Mersh

00:46:09.820 --> 00:46:11.880
is trying to take credit right now for saying

00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:14.699
like, oh, we reacted this week with just a little

00:46:14.699 --> 00:46:16.719
bit of criticism, just a little bit of poking

00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:19.480
and prodding. And Dan, hold that thought. I just

00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:22.360
want to get through the super chats. And speaking

00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:24.800
of insults, I think we got a couple here. I don't

00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:28.500
know who it's directed to. Vinny Goomba. Thank

00:46:28.500 --> 00:46:31.940
you for 499. Oh, there it is. I thought it was

00:46:31.940 --> 00:46:34.840
a roach on my screen. Tried to wipe it away,

00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:38.019
but still there. That's a nice thing to say about

00:46:38.019 --> 00:46:40.159
me, Vinny. Don't talk about me like I say it

00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:42.699
all the time, Vinny. I say I know I'm the most

00:46:42.699 --> 00:46:46.239
hated man around, but that's the black hole of

00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:48.480
the dabble verse. And then I'm going to go to

00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:51.940
his next one. Thank you again for 99 Vinny Goomba.

00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:54.480
Words used by that ghoul. Now that's me. I'm

00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:57.980
the ghoul. Words used that goal to other people.

00:46:58.059 --> 00:47:01.599
Stupid, gay, ugly, boring, lame, bitches, failure,

00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:05.340
arrogant. It has no redeeming qualities. I kind

00:47:05.340 --> 00:47:08.059
of like to wear in a diaper. That was that was

00:47:08.059 --> 00:47:09.719
kind of actually funny. Yeah, I'm actually like

00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:11.719
way more creative than anyone that you all listen

00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:13.880
to you fucking cocksucker. And I don't think

00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:16.559
I even I don't think air arrogant is in my vernacular.

00:47:16.739 --> 00:47:19.659
So go fuck yourself, you bozo. You know what?

00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:21.599
You know what I like when you come here? Wait,

00:47:21.699 --> 00:47:24.420
wait. I like when you call people cocksuckers

00:47:24.420 --> 00:47:27.610
and Yeah, that's my favorite one. You call everybody

00:47:27.610 --> 00:47:30.150
a cocksucker. These fucking douchebags get triggered

00:47:30.150 --> 00:47:32.449
by it. Like who was it? It was like forgot. They're

00:47:32.449 --> 00:47:35.449
like, oh, like it was like that nasty little

00:47:35.449 --> 00:47:37.329
guy's like he was offended that I called him

00:47:37.329 --> 00:47:39.369
a cocksucker in the sense that he was saying

00:47:39.369 --> 00:47:41.510
I was implying that he's a gay man. And for me,

00:47:41.530 --> 00:47:43.610
it's just like, dude, are we all not like Stern

00:47:43.610 --> 00:47:46.070
fans? Like I got I got that from the Iron Sheik.

00:47:46.110 --> 00:47:48.409
It's just like, yeah, I just call you a cocksucker.

00:47:48.449 --> 00:47:51.789
Get over it, bitch. And the last one for now,

00:47:52.010 --> 00:47:54.250
Brian Landon test stream member for one month.

00:47:54.429 --> 00:47:56.949
Thank you so much, Brian Landon. My problem with

00:47:56.949 --> 00:47:59.949
ABBA is her real support for Antifa. That's the

00:47:59.949 --> 00:48:02.530
other thing. They just decide that I'm a woke

00:48:02.530 --> 00:48:05.789
trainee Antifa person. Like I'm incredibly pro

00:48:05.789 --> 00:48:08.010
law enforcement and I like can't stand Antifa,

00:48:08.090 --> 00:48:12.130
but they just say that I do and OK. So we have

00:48:12.130 --> 00:48:15.610
Cool Duckman has joined us. Cool Duckman, what

00:48:15.610 --> 00:48:17.250
are your thoughts on what we've been talking

00:48:17.250 --> 00:48:21.539
about tonight? For the most part I just want

00:48:21.539 --> 00:48:25.300
to say Danny you're such a cool guy I like you

00:48:25.300 --> 00:48:29.179
a lot and Deb and everyone. I love everyone and

00:48:29.179 --> 00:48:34.099
Yeah, sorry Anyway, what is going on with the

00:48:34.099 --> 00:48:36.440
eyelids cool duckman? Like what's what's is there

00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:40.059
a problem that you have there? Well It's just

00:48:40.059 --> 00:48:44.639
my eyelids are I don't know They're just messed

00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:47.960
up All right. Well There you go. We'll bring

00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:49.860
you back in a little bit. Cool, Duckman. Work

00:48:49.860 --> 00:48:54.980
on that. Yeah, I will say this, though, real

00:48:54.980 --> 00:48:57.159
quick. If you define people that go at you really

00:48:57.159 --> 00:48:59.159
hard every day, the same people, they go hard

00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:01.440
and they say the most hurtful thing. I'm a strong

00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:03.760
believer that they're the ones that are hiding

00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:05.380
something deeper than you could ever they could

00:49:05.380 --> 00:49:07.599
ever talk about you. Oh, yeah. Going after me

00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:09.760
went saying that I was this wretched criminal.

00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:13.079
I was no good. And when I got to finally flip

00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:15.349
the coin on them. They're the ones that had more

00:49:15.349 --> 00:49:17.110
criminal records than I did. They're the ones

00:49:17.110 --> 00:49:20.670
that were worse than I could be. So they do that

00:49:20.670 --> 00:49:22.730
to take the spotlight off of them because they're

00:49:22.730 --> 00:49:24.849
so guilty for all the bad they've done. And I

00:49:24.849 --> 00:49:26.510
believe I'm a strong believer. If someone comes

00:49:26.510 --> 00:49:29.090
after you too hard, especially about being tranny,

00:49:29.409 --> 00:49:32.210
because deep down in their skin, that's probably

00:49:32.210 --> 00:49:33.889
what they want to be. But they're too afraid

00:49:33.889 --> 00:49:35.969
to come out and do the right thing. You understand?

00:49:36.090 --> 00:49:38.110
So that's what I believe. That's when people

00:49:38.110 --> 00:49:40.969
go really hard on stuff like that. So I know

00:49:40.969 --> 00:49:42.730
there's so many people just like them in real

00:49:42.730 --> 00:49:44.630
life that have like tried to sleep with me that

00:49:44.630 --> 00:49:46.829
have the exact same values and look exactly the

00:49:46.829 --> 00:49:49.409
same way as all these douchebags. Exactly. And

00:49:49.409 --> 00:49:51.929
I want to show this. This was Clay Dabler made

00:49:51.929 --> 00:49:54.230
that. It was the very first time. Oh, that's

00:49:54.230 --> 00:49:55.849
great. I love that. That was me and John, the

00:49:55.849 --> 00:49:58.250
very first things he ever made. He's a brilliant

00:49:58.250 --> 00:50:00.969
visual artist. I'm so jealous of him. He's so

00:50:00.969 --> 00:50:03.170
talented. I love Clay. Clay's my boy. Clay's

00:50:03.170 --> 00:50:07.909
great. I wish Clay would do a stream and show

00:50:07.909 --> 00:50:11.690
maybe like a sped up version of how a figurine

00:50:11.690 --> 00:50:14.500
comes together. I would watch this. I mean, I

00:50:14.500 --> 00:50:17.880
would too. I would too. And he doesn't seem to

00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:20.019
want that attention. He said, you know, just

00:50:20.019 --> 00:50:22.619
does his thing with John. He's been invited on

00:50:22.619 --> 00:50:25.760
surely in different shows. And, you know, he

00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:28.920
seems just like, like the lane he's in and I

00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:32.679
have a wide jugs. What did daddy do from Vinny

00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:35.619
Goomba? Another insult. One ninety nine. I think

00:50:35.619 --> 00:50:38.960
this one's to you. Unlike I think a lot of you,

00:50:39.139 --> 00:50:40.659
including Anthony Kumi and all of them, like

00:50:40.659 --> 00:50:43.449
I have a great relationship with both my parents.

00:50:43.730 --> 00:50:46.590
They love me. And yeah, sometimes people are

00:50:46.590 --> 00:50:48.789
just trans and has nothing to do with that. If

00:50:48.789 --> 00:50:51.389
you go to Greenville to visit your family, and

00:50:51.389 --> 00:50:54.250
you see Anthony in a bar, are you going to buy

00:50:54.250 --> 00:50:57.230
him a beer? I would be like, I would like see

00:50:57.230 --> 00:50:59.769
if he wants a shot and then be like, let's go

00:50:59.769 --> 00:51:02.869
and just like yell at each other. But he would

00:51:02.869 --> 00:51:04.809
run away like a little bitch and that's true.

00:51:04.829 --> 00:51:07.010
That's true. All people like that will run away.

00:51:07.150 --> 00:51:08.110
As soon as they see you come through the door,

00:51:08.190 --> 00:51:10.869
they'll be out the back door. Yeah. Dan, you

00:51:10.869 --> 00:51:13.429
blew our wad. We only get 10 a month. That's

00:51:13.429 --> 00:51:17.070
all right. Gifted five. Nice podcast. Guest is

00:51:17.070 --> 00:51:19.590
in the audience. We learned the best part about

00:51:19.590 --> 00:51:21.869
when you get when you somebody drops the membership.

00:51:22.030 --> 00:51:25.369
Find out. Yeah. The great Kim Nicholson is in

00:51:25.369 --> 00:51:29.849
the audience today. Kim. Kim is a good soul.

00:51:29.929 --> 00:51:33.789
I like him. I flipped on. Kim I used to not like

00:51:33.789 --> 00:51:36.730
her and then I saw her on like dab or something

00:51:36.730 --> 00:51:38.750
and she was like so lovable and charming and

00:51:38.750 --> 00:51:41.110
now I admit I was wrong about her. I love her.

00:51:41.449 --> 00:51:44.190
Dan and Kim are going at it. There's some barbs

00:51:44.190 --> 00:51:50.070
being traded. Dan likes the heat. Dan likes the

00:51:50.070 --> 00:51:53.250
heat. He does. And I guess Panhandler you got

00:51:53.250 --> 00:51:56.050
one. Thanks. You want to Handler? Panhandler.

00:51:56.349 --> 00:51:59.510
Panny. Serenity now Mr. Panhandler. Kumia loves

00:51:59.510 --> 00:52:02.130
teens. A very interesting screen name. Kim Nicholson

00:52:02.130 --> 00:52:08.719
and Teal Hank. Oh, man, he is he's a stand up

00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:10.619
guy. Teal's good guy hung out with him a couple

00:52:10.619 --> 00:52:12.760
of times. I've been jaywalking fight over who

00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:17.119
gets to blow my wad. Oh, all right. I'm gonna

00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:20.159
be right back because I bought this new kind

00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:23.920
of water. Mineragua, right? It's a sparkling

00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:26.920
water. And I look at it and they go, where does

00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:29.119
it where is it sourced? Where does it come from?

00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:32.920
Well, it's basically glorified tap water from

00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:36.539
what country to what country is not known for

00:52:36.539 --> 00:52:40.719
good drinking water. Mexico, India. Yes, Mexico.

00:52:41.199 --> 00:52:43.360
Mexico, Mexico. Yeah. Cape Coral, Florida. Yeah.

00:52:43.460 --> 00:52:50.780
Cape Coral, Florida. It's water. Cape Coral can

00:52:50.780 --> 00:52:53.199
be it could be a seedy place or but they got

00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:55.349
some great places there too. I like you in Florida,

00:52:55.570 --> 00:52:57.690
if it's my bit, is that something you say out

00:52:57.690 --> 00:53:00.869
loud? Me? I'm in I'm in Florida. I'm in Florida.

00:53:01.289 --> 00:53:04.769
I'm in Tampa. Huh? I'm in Naples. Joey, you're

00:53:04.769 --> 00:53:08.510
like, seriously, your delivery is of the greatest,

00:53:08.630 --> 00:53:10.989
not only in the double verse, like, you know,

00:53:10.989 --> 00:53:14.190
when you have I'm just listening. And yeah, you

00:53:14.190 --> 00:53:17.610
should do more and more shows of a hush up. We've

00:53:17.610 --> 00:53:20.170
got Joe Biden, the president, former president,

00:53:20.170 --> 00:53:23.679
Joe Biden in the audience. Crooked Joe. I was

00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:26.639
turning a knife. Hey, crooked. Who said that?

00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:29.699
I did. I know everything about you, from when

00:53:29.699 --> 00:53:33.179
you were a young politician in Wisconsin. Huh?

00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:37.280
Don't help me. Joe Biden, do you have any advice

00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:40.019
for Joey Catalano running for president? Yeah,

00:53:40.019 --> 00:53:43.019
just don't worry about it, man. Just die. Why

00:53:43.019 --> 00:53:45.539
did you give Hunter your own son? Why did you

00:53:45.539 --> 00:53:47.920
do that? Because I love my own son. What would

00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:51.719
you do? I let him go feel the heat. Teach him

00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:54.820
a lesson. Oh, you would? Yes. Well, I love my

00:53:54.820 --> 00:53:56.920
son. So I love my son, too. I guess. But enough's

00:53:56.920 --> 00:54:00.199
enough. I agree to disagree. Hunter Biden's fucking

00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:03.579
rules. He does rule. I mean, that guy, that guy's

00:54:03.579 --> 00:54:05.900
awesome. Your son's, he knows how to park. I

00:54:05.900 --> 00:54:09.760
am pretty damn awesome. He is. Your son. You're

00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:12.820
not that awesome. Your son. Yeah. Oh, sure. You're

00:54:12.820 --> 00:54:14.800
a little bit old to be awesome. Yeah, he is.

00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:19.739
I mean, come on, man. Come on, man. Joe, did

00:54:19.739 --> 00:54:21.659
you like Barack Obama? Come on, take a shirt

00:54:21.659 --> 00:54:24.619
off. Take a shirt off. Did you really like Barack

00:54:24.619 --> 00:54:29.920
Obama? Yeah. He reminds me of a guy he wants

00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:33.760
us to know. You know, if you can use one word

00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:36.380
to describe him, if you could use one word to

00:54:36.380 --> 00:54:38.440
describe him, President Biden, what would it

00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:46.869
be? He's very eloquent. vocabulary. I got one

00:54:46.869 --> 00:54:48.630
word that I'll describe Joe Biden for the time

00:54:48.630 --> 00:54:50.570
he stepped in the office. What's your problem,

00:54:51.010 --> 00:54:54.929
man? corrupt. Come on, man. Yes, that's that's

00:54:54.929 --> 00:54:58.210
that's not even Oh, I just pooped my pants. Just

00:54:58.210 --> 00:55:00.889
wait. How many? Oh, this is a good this is a

00:55:00.889 --> 00:55:02.969
good Biden impression. So you can say I never

00:55:02.969 --> 00:55:08.650
mind. I can't say that. I just jail. Where's

00:55:08.650 --> 00:55:10.710
Dr. Jill today? Joe? What's what's Dr. Jill?

00:55:11.050 --> 00:55:14.860
I just Jill just waited while we wait. We're

00:55:14.860 --> 00:55:18.800
waiting for Jill. I'm just doodly doo. Yeah.

00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:21.139
Anyway, was that a was that the karmic song,

00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:27.179
Joe, or you doodly doo? I'm a huge dabbler, man.

00:55:28.780 --> 00:55:33.179
I love it. Joey, what do you think of karmic

00:55:33.179 --> 00:55:35.900
acts? You were kind of like, I'm going to tell

00:55:35.900 --> 00:55:38.320
you, I had the most up respect for him when he

00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:40.070
first came out. I thought he was going to be

00:55:40.070 --> 00:55:42.070
the next best thing. I thought he had a lot of

00:55:42.070 --> 00:55:44.510
balls. I thought he knew how to assess himself.

00:55:44.789 --> 00:55:47.630
He wasn't afraid. How many balls does he have?

00:55:48.090 --> 00:55:49.530
I don't know, Joe. I don't know. That's your

00:55:49.530 --> 00:55:51.630
department. I just could tell you what I see

00:55:51.630 --> 00:55:53.309
him as a man that I thought he was. He's the

00:55:53.309 --> 00:55:55.769
one who brought up the balls, man. Well, Joe,

00:55:55.949 --> 00:55:57.329
I mean, I can bring up a lot of things, but I

00:55:57.329 --> 00:55:59.610
don't want to... Joe, listen, I want you to come

00:55:59.610 --> 00:56:02.530
to my inauguration when I get in in 2028. I'd

00:56:02.530 --> 00:56:03.809
like you to be sitting up there with me. Oh,

00:56:03.829 --> 00:56:06.360
yeah. Yeah, I like to hang out with the other

00:56:06.360 --> 00:56:11.719
corrupt people. Yeah. You know, Hey, Joe, my

00:56:11.719 --> 00:56:14.059
friend dates. Well, I wants to know, did you

00:56:14.059 --> 00:56:19.860
ever fall asleep while nailing Kamala? No. Next

00:56:19.860 --> 00:56:22.880
question. Did she go under the desk like that?

00:56:22.940 --> 00:56:25.599
Like model willing? When ski did for Bill Clinton?

00:56:26.739 --> 00:56:29.280
Yeah, there was client me. Yeah, that wasn't

00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:32.659
me. OK, that was the other guy. What? Hey, we

00:56:32.659 --> 00:56:35.360
asked us presidents. We don't all love the same

00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:37.840
dude. I don't have to have you talk to corn pop

00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:43.039
recently. No, not really. He he's a real bad

00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:46.320
dude. We all can't be quick. That's good. The

00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:48.800
greatest president ever. Over. Yeah. Corn pop.

00:56:49.179 --> 00:56:52.579
Yeah. You know, you know, I've got hairy legs.

00:56:53.460 --> 00:56:57.139
You know, I heard that I heard that. Yeah. And

00:56:57.139 --> 00:57:00.699
man, good my. That driver car. Oh, you got the

00:57:00.699 --> 00:57:04.980
deep cuts with those reference. I know. All right.

00:57:05.059 --> 00:57:06.760
Let's let's let's read through the let's catch

00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:10.480
up on the super chats. All right. All right.

00:57:10.619 --> 00:57:13.300
Vinnie Goomba back with another insult. We'll

00:57:13.300 --> 00:57:14.719
bring it back in a few minutes. All right. We'll

00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:16.739
give you a little break. Go get some ice cream.

00:57:17.380 --> 00:57:20.400
Yeah. He could do a great impression. The best

00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:23.619
part. The best part. Do you want me to say your

00:57:23.619 --> 00:57:26.059
name or not? Yeah. Yes. Fine. The best part of

00:57:26.059 --> 00:57:29.820
Naveed. is being a transmission. It's personality

00:57:29.820 --> 00:57:33.360
sucks. It's ego is huge. Yeah, right. Everyone

00:57:33.360 --> 00:57:36.159
is afraid of you. Such a talent. Well, some people

00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:39.219
are arguing that I've destroyed the whole Dabbleverse.

00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:41.780
No, you improved the Dabbleverse. God damn right

00:57:41.780 --> 00:57:44.599
I have. I'm quality control, bitch. I'm quality

00:57:44.599 --> 00:57:46.940
control, you fucking hack. People are asking,

00:57:47.059 --> 00:57:49.840
people have been asking, and I know you've probably

00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:52.219
answered this a million times, but have you,

00:57:52.460 --> 00:57:55.039
so how do I put this? Have you personally struck

00:57:55.039 --> 00:57:58.019
any channels? Yes or no? I struck one channel,

00:57:58.340 --> 00:58:01.920
it was TSN, the basis of the strike was the exact

00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:04.519
same basis that Shuly used a few weeks before

00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:07.059
I did it when he struck Mentor Math. It has nothing

00:58:07.059 --> 00:58:10.079
to do with fair use, it's about having private,

00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:12.559
private content and broadcasting it on the stream.

00:58:13.139 --> 00:58:17.599
And Shuly, a few weeks after I struck them, made

00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:20.500
the same argument defending his strike. I never

00:58:20.500 --> 00:58:23.659
struck anyone else again. No one else is doing

00:58:23.659 --> 00:58:27.510
the specific thing that TSN did. And so I have

00:58:27.510 --> 00:58:29.670
no reason to strike anyone else. If I struck

00:58:29.670 --> 00:58:33.349
someone else, I would say so. And another tactic

00:58:33.349 --> 00:58:36.329
of theirs is to imply that I'm some rogue striker.

00:58:36.590 --> 00:58:39.110
I struck one person who struck someone else for

00:58:39.110 --> 00:58:41.510
the exact same reason a few weeks before I did

00:58:41.510 --> 00:58:44.630
it, and that's out. So you think they're weaponizing

00:58:44.630 --> 00:58:47.829
those accusations to kind of just demoralize

00:58:47.829 --> 00:58:51.329
and besmirch you and make you look like somebody

00:58:51.329 --> 00:58:54.880
who's unhinged and dangerous or whatever? I mean,

00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:57.500
you could say we could say I'm unhinged, but

00:58:57.500 --> 00:59:01.400
like there no, like I understand the strategy.

00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:04.000
It's like you have this trans person. Everyone

00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:07.119
just wants one little thing to make it seem like

00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:09.500
the trans person is coming in and being censorious.

00:59:09.860 --> 00:59:12.300
The trans person is coming in and blocking or

00:59:12.300 --> 00:59:14.380
on Reddit or all these things. And so nobody

00:59:14.380 --> 00:59:15.960
wants to fact check that because they wanted

00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:18.320
to hear that in the first place. It was confusing

00:59:18.320 --> 00:59:21.360
to them the whole like six months before all

00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:23.539
this started that I wasn't behaving that way.

00:59:23.610 --> 00:59:26.590
They need me to be what they've imagined, because

00:59:26.590 --> 00:59:28.230
most of them have never met a transgender person.

00:59:29.090 --> 00:59:32.730
And Frankfurt, a friend of mine, he wanted to

00:59:32.730 --> 00:59:35.590
me to ask you this before. And it's for you,

00:59:35.690 --> 00:59:38.409
of course, of a smallest stated numerous times

00:59:38.409 --> 00:59:41.570
his hate for his mother. And then this is a like

00:59:41.570 --> 00:59:44.829
a political question. So if we don't usually

00:59:44.829 --> 00:59:48.369
do politics, but feel free. Do you think that

00:59:48.369 --> 00:59:52.050
correlates with his love for Israel and genocide?

00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:55.519
I love that theory. I really do. I love you,

00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:58.420
Frankfurt. Frankfurt's awesome. Shmuel's one

00:59:58.420 --> 01:00:00.780
of Shmuel's many dilemmas. Well, it's not a dilemma

01:00:00.780 --> 01:00:03.079
for him because he's oblivious to a lot of his

01:00:03.079 --> 01:00:06.380
faults is that he's a particular type of boomer.

01:00:06.579 --> 01:00:09.820
They just never were able to intake new information

01:00:09.820 --> 01:00:11.800
after a certain point. Like, you know, they're

01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:14.320
very Clintonian. They don't want to adjust to

01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:16.739
the times. And there was a view of Israel in

01:00:16.739 --> 01:00:18.940
the genocide that Shmuel grew up with, that he

01:00:18.940 --> 01:00:22.230
was conditioned to believe. And because he's

01:00:22.230 --> 01:00:25.309
so intellectually lazy and so arrogant, he's

01:00:25.309 --> 01:00:27.110
not going to change his mind over something like

01:00:27.110 --> 01:00:29.949
that. And so what? He's a dumb. He's a dumb boomer.

01:00:30.070 --> 01:00:32.369
Is that you mean supporting Israel? Is that the

01:00:32.369 --> 01:00:33.969
is that the mindset is that what you're talking

01:00:33.969 --> 01:00:37.010
about? Yeah. Yeah. He's he's a Zionist. He's

01:00:37.010 --> 01:00:41.190
a total Zionist. You know, Vinny Goomba 499.

01:00:41.409 --> 01:00:43.969
Another insult coming in. Thank you very much.

01:00:44.130 --> 01:00:47.030
Naveed's scary talent is hidden in the basement

01:00:47.030 --> 01:00:50.190
of a cabin in Freaksville with a government job.

01:00:50.650 --> 01:00:53.469
What a waste. Just a scary debater. The worst

01:00:53.469 --> 01:00:56.150
of the worst. That's unfortunate because the

01:00:56.150 --> 01:00:58.710
house that I'm renting probably costs more than

01:00:58.710 --> 01:01:00.909
like six months of your rent. I live like right

01:01:00.909 --> 01:01:03.289
next to like an amazing neighborhood. It's a

01:01:03.289 --> 01:01:05.909
huge house. There's too much room in this house.

01:01:05.969 --> 01:01:08.329
There's no basement. And yeah, I am a great debater.

01:01:08.449 --> 01:01:09.570
What else did they say? Was there anything else

01:01:09.570 --> 01:01:11.949
that they're worth responding to? The worst to

01:01:11.949 --> 01:01:15.769
the worst. Oh, oh, oh, oh, okay. That's whatever.

01:01:16.289 --> 01:01:18.050
That's a good. There's a transition. By the way,

01:01:18.130 --> 01:01:20.210
it's not, it's not easy to get a government job

01:01:20.210 --> 01:01:22.929
and I didn't get a government job because I got

01:01:22.929 --> 01:01:25.510
a government job before I came out as a trans

01:01:25.510 --> 01:01:28.650
woman. So I got it from the merit of my skills

01:01:28.650 --> 01:01:30.949
and I've been promoted four times, including

01:01:30.949 --> 01:01:34.630
just now. And I know that hurts you because I'm

01:01:34.630 --> 01:01:37.409
just confident. I'm competent. I'm probably smarter

01:01:37.409 --> 01:01:40.130
than you are and you're a little bitch and I'm

01:01:40.130 --> 01:01:41.829
meaner than you and it hurts your feelings. So

01:01:41.829 --> 01:01:44.469
you just have to like resort to just the stereotypes

01:01:44.469 --> 01:01:46.610
because even though I'm not those stereotypes,

01:01:46.630 --> 01:01:48.369
you just that's all you can cling on to. But

01:01:48.369 --> 01:01:50.170
yeah, I'm not in the basement. I'm in a huge

01:01:50.170 --> 01:01:53.269
house. I want to ask a question. I hope this

01:01:53.269 --> 01:01:55.429
is I say this the right way. When did you first

01:01:55.429 --> 01:01:58.670
know in your life? What? How old were you? Oh,

01:01:58.670 --> 01:02:01.289
like I was like nine years old. Well, how about

01:02:01.289 --> 01:02:03.349
how long did it take you to make the choice to

01:02:03.349 --> 01:02:06.550
come out and be you and be free? I came out like

01:02:06.550 --> 01:02:09.130
six years ago. So you sheltered it a lot of years.

01:02:09.489 --> 01:02:12.250
Yeah, I never wanted to like, I never wanted

01:02:12.250 --> 01:02:15.170
to subject my parents to that. That's respectful.

01:02:15.469 --> 01:02:17.230
That's respectful. I hope that way everyone that

01:02:17.230 --> 01:02:19.449
wants to say that he's coming out, it has these

01:02:19.449 --> 01:02:21.349
negative effects. I used to be like a burnout

01:02:21.349 --> 01:02:24.469
musician that couldn't even afford to like live.

01:02:24.650 --> 01:02:27.070
to pay rent in someone else's house with four

01:02:27.070 --> 01:02:29.869
roommates. After I came out, I now have my own

01:02:29.869 --> 01:02:31.809
house. I've been promoted four times. I put myself

01:02:31.809 --> 01:02:34.349
through college full time, worked while I was

01:02:34.349 --> 01:02:37.909
doing it, and just graduated with honors. Congratulations.

01:02:38.010 --> 01:02:39.130
I don't want to ask that creep. I don't want

01:02:39.130 --> 01:02:40.610
to come off creepy when I ask that. That's why

01:02:40.610 --> 01:02:43.250
I tried to, you know, ask me anything you want.

01:02:43.389 --> 01:02:46.440
And honestly, it kills me to like Self or just

01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:49.360
like brag like that. I would only do it in this

01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:51.139
context Normally, I would never say anything

01:02:51.139 --> 01:02:53.039
like I just said but joey you can always ask

01:02:53.039 --> 01:02:55.539
me anything. I love you Yeah, feel free to brag

01:02:55.539 --> 01:02:58.960
away. I love this fucking cocksucker. I got another

01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:05.239
one I've been trying to get off my chest here

01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:08.559
for a couple minutes Okay, so one of the things

01:03:08.559 --> 01:03:11.099
and you ava you mentioned about people like we're

01:03:11.099 --> 01:03:13.340
trying to kind of fuck with your life and then

01:03:13.340 --> 01:03:15.420
you got promoted and you had good things going

01:03:15.420 --> 01:03:17.820
on and you kind of fight through that. And I've

01:03:17.820 --> 01:03:19.260
had some similar things. I don't want to get

01:03:19.260 --> 01:03:21.119
into them, but I've had people that have tried

01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:24.519
to fuck with me in myriad different ways. And

01:03:24.519 --> 01:03:26.840
I think it frustrates them that they can't touch

01:03:26.840 --> 01:03:28.940
me, which is kind of, which is kind of like the

01:03:28.940 --> 01:03:30.739
thing that I love is like when you have a good

01:03:30.739 --> 01:03:33.539
life and you're successful. There's a lot of

01:03:33.539 --> 01:03:37.500
people that hide behind anonymity and masks and

01:03:37.500 --> 01:03:40.139
they get off on trying to like hurt people and

01:03:40.139 --> 01:03:43.260
say things. So like Vinny Goomba or whoever you

01:03:43.260 --> 01:03:45.380
can keep. fucking, you know, and we'll, we'll

01:03:45.380 --> 01:03:47.260
read it and we'll, we'll laugh about it because

01:03:47.260 --> 01:03:49.280
it's, it doesn't, it doesn't really hurt us to

01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:52.539
hurt. It doesn't feel like I was having an issue

01:03:52.539 --> 01:03:55.139
with it. And I mean, I, frankly, we can even

01:03:55.139 --> 01:03:57.480
gloss gloss over them if we want and not read

01:03:57.480 --> 01:04:01.760
them, but, but, okay, sorry. But what I was going

01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:04.519
to say is in, in this, and maybe I make it a

01:04:04.519 --> 01:04:06.800
little bit of a leap here, but there's a lot

01:04:06.800 --> 01:04:10.639
of people that are also creative people in the

01:04:10.639 --> 01:04:14.139
dabble verse. that use anonymity and use different

01:04:14.139 --> 01:04:17.579
ways to kind of shield themselves from criticism

01:04:17.579 --> 01:04:20.940
and from kind of blowback. But then we'll be

01:04:20.940 --> 01:04:24.559
the first to use personal attacks at other people.

01:04:24.659 --> 01:04:26.539
And I'm talking about people that use filters

01:04:26.539 --> 01:04:30.179
and masks and in all different cartoons and things

01:04:30.179 --> 01:04:33.039
like that. They are some of the worst perpetrators

01:04:33.039 --> 01:04:36.619
of like personal attacks and things like that.

01:04:36.900 --> 01:04:38.860
But You can't really, you can't, you can't say

01:04:38.860 --> 01:04:41.260
anything. And this was the big thing. Like Cardiff

01:04:41.260 --> 01:04:43.480
is a good example. So Cardiff will talk about

01:04:43.480 --> 01:04:46.599
Chad Zumok, everything about Chad Zumok's life.

01:04:46.659 --> 01:04:49.139
He'll go through with a fine tooth comb, but

01:04:49.280 --> 01:04:52.260
What do we know about cardiff? So like it's so

01:04:52.260 --> 01:04:55.079
disingenuous to go through like joey It'll be

01:04:55.079 --> 01:04:57.380
like if cardiff and I think you've had even some

01:04:57.380 --> 01:05:00.179
issues maybe with him at some point I've I've

01:05:00.179 --> 01:05:01.500
I've went toe to toe with cardiff many times,

01:05:01.500 --> 01:05:03.760
but cardiff has also reached out and helped me

01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:06.820
in many ways, too So I overlook cardiff. He's

01:05:06.820 --> 01:05:08.840
a he's a freaking potato. You can't get serious.

01:05:08.840 --> 01:05:11.239
He's not he can't take it too seriously, but

01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:15.300
But to me it just feels it feels kind of very

01:05:15.300 --> 01:05:19.920
lame I agree to hurl rocks over a wall and then

01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:22.820
to like run away and and just keep doing that

01:05:22.820 --> 01:05:25.179
and have that be your whole your whole shtick

01:05:25.179 --> 01:05:27.760
it's it just feels very disingenuous and and

01:05:27.760 --> 01:05:31.139
very um very lame to me I agree with you in one

01:05:31.139 --> 01:05:33.340
of my like moments where I was like I started

01:05:33.340 --> 01:05:36.300
watching your show was when you were on actually

01:05:36.300 --> 01:05:39.380
on Chad show though like is you your line of

01:05:39.380 --> 01:05:42.099
questioning with Cardiff because like um you

01:05:42.099 --> 01:05:44.989
were the first person to like just hold him to

01:05:44.989 --> 01:05:47.650
task about that. And that was one of the things

01:05:47.650 --> 01:05:49.210
that's been interesting for me is realizing no

01:05:49.210 --> 01:05:51.730
one has held these people to task like, like

01:05:51.730 --> 01:05:53.510
that the way you did, which was very disciplined.

01:05:53.809 --> 01:05:56.690
And he had nothing to back that up. And once

01:05:56.690 --> 01:05:58.929
you start doing that with people like Cardiff,

01:05:59.269 --> 01:06:01.849
they don't they act like a four year old that

01:06:01.849 --> 01:06:03.750
like gets caught like what they're hitting the

01:06:03.750 --> 01:06:05.789
cookie jar, they just like keep moving the goalpost.

01:06:05.849 --> 01:06:08.909
And I think that area of exploration, like Cardiff,

01:06:09.050 --> 01:06:11.449
like we keep giving them a pass, but he keeps

01:06:11.449 --> 01:06:13.849
like when you pin him against the wall to defend

01:06:13.849 --> 01:06:15.650
anyone, he always blames it on the other person.

01:06:15.969 --> 01:06:18.969
But if you ask him what you asked him, it's like,

01:06:18.989 --> 01:06:20.570
well, I wouldn't, well, I don't want anybody

01:06:20.570 --> 01:06:23.630
doing that to me. And it's like, so how dare

01:06:23.630 --> 01:06:26.050
you judge anyone else for the way that they respond

01:06:26.050 --> 01:06:28.510
to that? Like it's people's privacy and their

01:06:28.510 --> 01:06:32.250
families and, you know, and yeah, like if someone

01:06:32.250 --> 01:06:35.309
wants to be anonymous and not engaged in this

01:06:35.309 --> 01:06:37.829
area, the subject matter, go for it and be creative

01:06:37.829 --> 01:06:40.130
in the space. Cardiff honestly isn't too creative

01:06:40.130 --> 01:06:44.739
in the first place. And this is a big unexplored

01:06:44.739 --> 01:06:47.260
gap with him. Who do you think is more talented?

01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:48.960
Do you think Rocco is more talented than Carter?

01:06:49.500 --> 01:06:52.420
I don't find either. I think Rocco was once talented,

01:06:52.440 --> 01:06:55.239
but he's kind of just become a hack and he's

01:06:55.239 --> 01:06:56.880
burnt out. I could tell you right now. He's out

01:06:56.880 --> 01:06:58.559
of his game. He's definitely out of his game.

01:06:58.599 --> 01:07:01.639
He's burnt out. Yeah. It's a point. You're in

01:07:01.639 --> 01:07:04.139
your 40s and you're doing a puppet show to people

01:07:04.139 --> 01:07:06.500
like every week. Like that's got to be soul sucking

01:07:06.500 --> 01:07:09.280
at some point. I like. to keep doing that. I

01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:11.559
mean, it's fun at some point. But at some point,

01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:13.599
he must wake up and be like, what am I doing

01:07:13.599 --> 01:07:15.860
with myself? I think he's at that point. I think

01:07:15.860 --> 01:07:17.719
he's asked himself that many times. I think he's

01:07:17.719 --> 01:07:19.159
at that point because people like me and John

01:07:19.159 --> 01:07:22.960
are like, just jumping on him about that. Like,

01:07:23.219 --> 01:07:25.019
there's this he took this video down. But like,

01:07:25.320 --> 01:07:27.460
I like it was what he keeps referencing, like

01:07:27.460 --> 01:07:30.099
about me pointing out his kid brought a Red Bull.

01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:33.190
It's like I've been getting in his head for like

01:07:33.190 --> 01:07:35.670
the last four weeks and each time he just gets

01:07:35.670 --> 01:07:38.710
knocked to the ground. And then he's like, yeah,

01:07:38.710 --> 01:07:41.829
I'm a loser and I'm a fat fuck. I'll find, John

01:07:41.829 --> 01:07:44.769
has a clip saved on his phone. But yeah, I'll

01:07:44.769 --> 01:07:47.170
send it to you. No, he's like, it's just boom.

01:07:47.349 --> 01:07:49.750
No one has like just pointed that out. But like,

01:07:50.070 --> 01:07:51.849
I've been here for like less than a year and

01:07:51.849 --> 01:07:54.469
going on Shirley's show after like five or six

01:07:54.469 --> 01:07:56.570
weeks, it was like, it only took like three or

01:07:56.570 --> 01:07:58.530
four weeks to just come up with jokes right away

01:07:58.530 --> 01:08:00.699
that are just like, John, blah, blah, blah. And

01:08:00.699 --> 01:08:02.940
then it's honestly boring at that point. The

01:08:02.940 --> 01:08:04.760
idea that someone like Rocco has been doing this

01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:07.880
for like five years, just the same formula is

01:08:07.880 --> 01:08:10.099
just, I don't know. I think the only reason he's

01:08:10.099 --> 01:08:12.000
upset is because John's winning now for the first

01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:13.699
time. But yeah, he doesn't have talent and neither

01:08:13.699 --> 01:08:16.300
does Cardiff. I'm going to blast through these.

01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:19.680
Vinny Goomba, 499. You ready, Ave? We got another

01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:22.659
one. Okay. Proud to be friends with SJ and proud

01:08:22.659 --> 01:08:24.979
to be the wart in the dabble verse. Can you go

01:08:24.979 --> 01:08:27.600
any lower? You want to be a bottom for a PDF?

01:08:27.880 --> 01:08:30.399
So how do you even? Jill, you just you want to

01:08:30.399 --> 01:08:32.560
deal with that one for me? First of all, first

01:08:32.560 --> 01:08:36.460
of all, like like like was said earlier, when

01:08:36.460 --> 01:08:38.579
you when you when you do attach yourself to John,

01:08:38.899 --> 01:08:40.899
you're going to be you're going to be ate up

01:08:40.899 --> 01:08:42.479
and be hated. And that's what happened to me.

01:08:42.659 --> 01:08:46.100
I I probably back in that time next to John was

01:08:46.100 --> 01:08:49.600
the most trolled, hated, talked about guy next

01:08:49.600 --> 01:08:52.100
to John, because I because I got messaged. You

01:08:52.100 --> 01:08:54.520
made the leap to go be with him. Now you'll get

01:08:54.520 --> 01:08:56.939
treated like him. But you know what? I came out

01:08:56.939 --> 01:08:59.770
OK. I came up, I look at it like this, but you

01:08:59.770 --> 01:09:01.590
fool still gave you still would give me twenty

01:09:01.590 --> 01:09:04.029
five hundred a month and super chats every month.

01:09:04.189 --> 01:09:07.010
So I'm doing something right. Yeah. You're getting

01:09:07.010 --> 01:09:10.909
paid for it and just so so. So go ahead. John,

01:09:10.949 --> 01:09:14.270
John, John made it made a decent living. And

01:09:14.270 --> 01:09:16.449
I mean, running money or shooing money. But but

01:09:16.449 --> 01:09:18.069
I tell you what, John made close to 100 grand

01:09:18.069 --> 01:09:20.970
each time he podcast. And he didn't even try.

01:09:21.310 --> 01:09:23.850
And they get they only feel sorry to control

01:09:23.850 --> 01:09:25.569
them. Who cares? I don't care how the money comes

01:09:25.569 --> 01:09:28.819
in. He's still bringing it in. You know, so who's

01:09:28.819 --> 01:09:32.039
the dummy? Who's is the dummy? Also Vinny, you

01:09:32.039 --> 01:09:34.180
have no idea what it's like to just grow up being

01:09:34.180 --> 01:09:36.399
like brown in South Carolina and then come and

01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:40.000
then coming out to your family like in your 30s

01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:42.399
Like you have no idea like what that's like you

01:09:42.399 --> 01:09:44.979
think you're gonna hurt after all of that You

01:09:44.979 --> 01:09:47.119
think you're gonna hurt my feelings with any

01:09:47.119 --> 01:09:49.800
of the shit you all say like go suck my tits.

01:09:49.800 --> 01:09:52.119
You fucking bitch I have a your relationship

01:09:52.119 --> 01:09:59.920
with stuttering John Would you say your friendship

01:09:59.920 --> 01:10:02.600
with him, like kind of not that you have like

01:10:02.600 --> 01:10:05.579
a motivation necessarily, but, but why you wanted

01:10:05.579 --> 01:10:08.840
to kind of be aligned with John, is it personal?

01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:12.279
Is it strategic? Cause you're kind of sort of,

01:10:12.279 --> 01:10:13.760
you know, you're in the mic, the dabble verse,

01:10:13.880 --> 01:10:15.619
you just kind of want to strategically align

01:10:15.619 --> 01:10:18.159
with them. What's kind of like your, your motivation

01:10:18.159 --> 01:10:20.720
to align yourself with somebody like John and

01:10:20.720 --> 01:10:23.720
knowing kind of the baggage and the attention

01:10:23.720 --> 01:10:27.710
that it brings. I think you relate with this,

01:10:27.909 --> 01:10:31.510
and it's just true for me. I don't look at humans

01:10:31.510 --> 01:10:34.350
or friends strategically, and I've been in music

01:10:34.350 --> 01:10:36.670
scenes and all kinds of things where my peers

01:10:36.670 --> 01:10:39.250
do that and you see people. I just don't have

01:10:39.250 --> 01:10:42.130
that part in my brain. I'm sure I have a gajillion

01:10:42.130 --> 01:10:46.069
flaws. I don't do it that way. Like John is like,

01:10:46.369 --> 01:10:48.270
I talked, John had been on a show three years

01:10:48.270 --> 01:10:51.069
ago, or no, four years ago when it first came

01:10:51.069 --> 01:10:54.100
out. And the way a lot of my friends found out

01:10:54.100 --> 01:10:57.939
was just John randomly having me on his show.

01:10:58.659 --> 01:11:01.300
So I have a history with him, and then he had

01:11:01.300 --> 01:11:04.800
me on this year, this last year. And no, there's

01:11:04.800 --> 01:11:09.260
no strategy with him. I don't have an aspiring

01:11:09.260 --> 01:11:12.579
career in podcasting. I have my own career. I've

01:11:12.579 --> 01:11:14.340
been going to school for something. I'm working

01:11:14.340 --> 01:11:16.699
towards something independent of that. And I

01:11:16.699 --> 01:11:20.869
think that helps in these situations. I'm not

01:11:20.869 --> 01:11:23.550
using John for anything. And John's smart and

01:11:23.550 --> 01:11:25.609
he probably recognizes that I'm not using him

01:11:25.609 --> 01:11:27.850
for anything. And that's all. By the way, that

01:11:27.850 --> 01:11:30.250
makes all these like two things. They all lose

01:11:30.250 --> 01:11:31.890
their mind when they don't when they realize

01:11:31.890 --> 01:11:33.909
like there's no like motivation. There's not

01:11:33.909 --> 01:11:37.109
like I'm ulterior motive. And oh, my God, she's

01:11:37.109 --> 01:11:39.630
trying to clout chase or this, that or the other

01:11:39.630 --> 01:11:41.270
thing. It's like, no, you're just kind of like

01:11:41.270 --> 01:11:43.050
doing something for fun. Like for me, this is

01:11:43.050 --> 01:11:45.010
kind of like a hobby. Like it's fun. And if you

01:11:45.010 --> 01:11:46.409
make a little bit of money, OK, that's great.

01:11:46.449 --> 01:11:48.069
But I'm not going to like quit my day job. You

01:11:48.069 --> 01:11:49.750
know, I'm just going to absolutely enjoy it.

01:11:49.880 --> 01:11:52.819
And I used to make videos and I'm familiar with

01:11:52.819 --> 01:11:54.579
how to shoot things and make short films and

01:11:54.579 --> 01:11:56.899
all that. If I was gonna do that, if I was gonna

01:11:56.899 --> 01:11:59.420
want anything for myself, I would do it my own

01:11:59.420 --> 01:12:02.479
way. I wouldn't piggyback onto John for it. You

01:12:02.479 --> 01:12:04.300
know what I'm saying? I don't need John to do

01:12:04.300 --> 01:12:07.399
that. Everything that I'm saying around John

01:12:07.399 --> 01:12:09.460
is what I believe. I agree with him on it. I

01:12:09.460 --> 01:12:12.119
know that that show is only gonna be that one

01:12:12.119 --> 01:12:15.500
dimension to discuss things in. And that's fine.

01:12:15.619 --> 01:12:18.060
But I also love coming here and talking... In

01:12:18.060 --> 01:12:20.079
the dynamic of your show and other people's show

01:12:20.079 --> 01:12:22.500
i'm flying where i'm at and i'm not using anyone

01:12:22.500 --> 01:12:25.100
for anything And i'm proud of that. I tell you

01:12:25.100 --> 01:12:27.279
what I gotta admit this. This is nice. You guys

01:12:27.279 --> 01:12:29.680
do a great show i'm having actually a really

01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:31.819
good time Everything's jarring good. We're having

01:12:31.819 --> 01:12:35.399
a good conversation and you know I i'm not i'm

01:12:35.399 --> 01:12:37.479
not funny i'm not a comedian ever tried to be

01:12:37.479 --> 01:12:39.500
i've never tried to be that like everybody says

01:12:39.500 --> 01:12:41.659
You know, I never tried to be anybody I never

01:12:41.659 --> 01:12:43.880
tried to write anybody's coattail karmic made

01:12:43.880 --> 01:12:46.520
the most dumbest ridiculous thing say i'm right

01:12:46.750 --> 01:12:50.229
Buddy, I was well established in this verse way

01:12:50.229 --> 01:12:52.630
before you were even thought of. I mean, the

01:12:52.630 --> 01:12:55.229
bottom line is 20 years from now, I am attached

01:12:55.229 --> 01:12:57.229
to the devils. But if they ever do a documentary

01:12:57.229 --> 01:12:59.529
endeavor, I promise you I'll be one of the characters

01:12:59.529 --> 01:13:03.229
named. Oh, yeah. You're you're you're royalty.

01:13:03.229 --> 01:13:05.329
That mean anything? No, it don't mean your first

01:13:05.329 --> 01:13:08.090
ballot. Hey, Joey, like you already you've already

01:13:08.090 --> 01:13:10.010
earned your stripes at this point. You know,

01:13:10.170 --> 01:13:12.800
like. I like I know this it's it's an attack

01:13:12.800 --> 01:13:15.720
on you but to me one of the reasons karmic is

01:13:15.720 --> 01:13:18.220
funny is like he has this like accidental way

01:13:18.220 --> 01:13:19.960
to like have the it's not even accidental but

01:13:19.960 --> 01:13:21.960
like he has like these hooks with the way he

01:13:21.960 --> 01:13:23.600
insults people and like for some reason he just

01:13:23.600 --> 01:13:28.500
locked in on jailbird for you and it's just fascinating

01:13:28.500 --> 01:13:31.300
that he just locked in on at least I know I can

01:13:31.300 --> 01:13:33.319
go to prison and I can handle myself accordingly

01:13:33.319 --> 01:13:35.739
and I took did my time and I came home and I

01:13:35.739 --> 01:13:38.199
can't handle living in his parents yard without

01:13:38.199 --> 01:13:40.159
having a meltdown. He'd been out of a town of

01:13:40.159 --> 01:13:42.760
300 people. I've been all over the United States

01:13:42.760 --> 01:13:45.399
and a few other places. I've traveled a lot.

01:13:45.800 --> 01:13:47.979
So he hasn't been out of his backyard. He couldn't

01:13:47.979 --> 01:13:50.319
last a day in your world and what you've been

01:13:50.319 --> 01:13:53.119
through, man. That's the bottom line. I got a

01:13:53.119 --> 01:13:54.680
big challenge coming up when my daughter gets

01:13:54.680 --> 01:13:58.300
home in 139 days as of today. That's going to

01:13:58.300 --> 01:14:00.979
be a big challenge for me. I love her. I forgive

01:14:00.979 --> 01:14:03.060
her. My wife forgives her. We still can't we

01:14:03.060 --> 01:14:05.319
still got to know that she tried to kill us,

01:14:05.399 --> 01:14:07.699
you know, and and and I would never turn my back

01:14:07.699 --> 01:14:09.760
on her She's my blood and and and she worries

01:14:09.760 --> 01:14:11.960
about that. She you know, she's Are you going?

01:14:12.739 --> 01:14:15.539
One day I told her is this you're gonna remember

01:14:15.539 --> 01:14:17.159
it every day of your life as you get older It's

01:14:17.159 --> 01:14:18.319
gonna get worse for you because she's guilty.

01:14:18.520 --> 01:14:20.939
But she's got the guilt sink in it She she says

01:14:20.939 --> 01:14:22.800
she's sorry to me five times a day because she

01:14:22.800 --> 01:14:25.539
called me Uh on the radio video relay at least

01:14:25.539 --> 01:14:27.979
three times a day, you know in in those three

01:14:28.159 --> 01:14:30.279
calls, she'll tell me at least five times in

01:14:30.279 --> 01:14:32.199
each conversation how much she's sorry and hopes

01:14:32.199 --> 01:14:35.399
that I'm really forgive her. I do. It was a mistake

01:14:35.399 --> 01:14:38.220
that happened. Thank God no one died. You know,

01:14:38.319 --> 01:14:40.399
thank God that Christina didn't die because Christina

01:14:40.399 --> 01:14:44.760
was in critical and did she did lose a stop.

01:14:44.960 --> 01:14:47.100
She did stop breathing. And while she was in

01:14:47.100 --> 01:14:48.439
the medevac and I brought her back and then she

01:14:48.439 --> 01:14:50.640
went right into surgery for many hours. She was

01:14:50.640 --> 01:14:54.210
stabbed 15 times and It was it was a brutal night

01:14:54.210 --> 01:14:57.750
that 41 minutes of hell that I have to live every

01:14:57.750 --> 01:15:00.350
day in my head I dream about it. I think about

01:15:00.350 --> 01:15:02.949
it I still have nightmares about it because who

01:15:02.949 --> 01:15:05.430
thinks their kids are gonna first of all What

01:15:05.430 --> 01:15:07.350
person thinks their their children that they

01:15:07.350 --> 01:15:09.409
love and have good reason is ever gonna you let

01:15:09.409 --> 01:15:11.390
you you're gonna have a guard up for your own

01:15:11.390 --> 01:15:13.289
children. I never anticipated something like

01:15:13.289 --> 01:15:16.010
this ever. Hey, look at look at Rob, Rob and

01:15:16.010 --> 01:15:19.470
Michelle Reiner. And they the signs they should

01:15:19.470 --> 01:15:23.670
have seen coming. Now, Joey, your daughter, was

01:15:23.670 --> 01:15:26.090
she schizophrenic? Were there mental issues?

01:15:26.289 --> 01:15:28.489
My daughter is profoundly deaf since birth. So

01:15:28.489 --> 01:15:31.390
she struggled very hard growing up. She was kicked

01:15:31.390 --> 01:15:33.609
out of the Florida deaf for the school at a very

01:15:33.609 --> 01:15:36.289
young age because she was a she was a very angry,

01:15:36.569 --> 01:15:38.390
like the fight child and she struck a teacher

01:15:38.390 --> 01:15:41.600
in seventh grade. And I went through many meetings

01:15:41.600 --> 01:15:44.159
and hearings with the state of Florida. I couldn't

01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:45.520
give them the budget to let her back in. I go,

01:15:45.640 --> 01:15:48.119
you're basically burying my daughter. She's profoundly

01:15:48.119 --> 01:15:49.600
deaf. She needs a deaf school because she was

01:15:49.600 --> 01:15:51.979
an A student. If I put her in a mainstream, she's

01:15:51.979 --> 01:15:53.899
going to fail and she's going to be her life

01:15:53.899 --> 01:15:56.119
is over. They would not budge. She was banned

01:15:56.119 --> 01:15:57.979
from there. Now, I could have I could have went

01:15:57.979 --> 01:16:00.000
back to Illinois and put her there, but they

01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:01.359
were going to make sure that all the other deaf

01:16:01.359 --> 01:16:03.520
schools were alerted. She had a lot of anger

01:16:03.520 --> 01:16:06.340
issues. So I knew she had issues of anger, anger

01:16:06.340 --> 01:16:08.260
where she could possibly hurt somebody. That

01:16:08.260 --> 01:16:09.439
was the capability because she tried to hurt

01:16:09.439 --> 01:16:11.720
her brother with an axe when she was when she

01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:13.800
was nine years old. You know, and if I didn't

01:16:13.800 --> 01:16:15.359
grab the axe out of her hand, she would have

01:16:15.359 --> 01:16:18.180
cut his arm off. You know, so she but she struggles

01:16:18.180 --> 01:16:20.539
with frustration because being deaf, she wants

01:16:20.539 --> 01:16:22.640
to be heard. She just wants to fit in. And people

01:16:22.640 --> 01:16:24.979
made fun of her. You don't know how many fights

01:16:24.979 --> 01:16:26.840
and how many times I got arrested for fighting

01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:28.819
in a restaurant for someone making fun of her

01:16:28.819 --> 01:16:31.119
cackling as a deaf person. I mean, I would get

01:16:31.119 --> 01:16:32.880
out of my seat and I would I would just start

01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:35.100
beating someone at the table until I waited for

01:16:35.100 --> 01:16:37.390
the police to come. I bet that's my child. She

01:16:37.390 --> 01:16:40.529
was a baby. But she did have an anger. And my

01:16:40.529 --> 01:16:43.250
mistake was my son used to tell me just because

01:16:43.250 --> 01:16:45.090
she's deaf don't mean you got to give her your

01:16:45.090 --> 01:16:47.529
way to her every day. She's just deaf. She still

01:16:47.529 --> 01:16:51.130
she still needs to have consequences. I had some

01:16:51.130 --> 01:16:53.270
felt some kind of guilt of her being deaf and

01:16:53.270 --> 01:16:55.729
felt that it was somewhere down the line. My

01:16:55.729 --> 01:16:57.529
response was Dr. Tommy was ridiculous. Nothing

01:16:57.529 --> 01:16:59.850
you did. None of your sperm did it. None of that.

01:16:59.850 --> 01:17:02.109
You know, was it the drugs and mice? Did you

01:17:02.109 --> 01:17:04.840
ask? Did you ask? I asked the doctor. Did my

01:17:04.840 --> 01:17:07.600
sperm do this? Yes, I did. I said, being polluted

01:17:07.600 --> 01:17:10.300
with the drugs, did they do this? I walked around

01:17:10.300 --> 01:17:12.479
with guilt thinking maybe I caused it. He said,

01:17:12.600 --> 01:17:14.619
no, you did not. It's impossible. You did not.

01:17:14.939 --> 01:17:18.260
Are you able to not have expectations of what

01:17:18.260 --> 01:17:20.880
you want her to do or save on her visit coming

01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:24.840
up? I was very, very, very, very... We had a

01:17:24.840 --> 01:17:27.300
very long talk many a times the last couple of

01:17:27.300 --> 01:17:30.590
months. I told her that... Yes, we forgive you.

01:17:30.649 --> 01:17:32.369
I don't try to think about it. You don't have

01:17:32.369 --> 01:17:34.729
to worry about that. That I'm going to turn my

01:17:34.729 --> 01:17:37.810
back on you. I did say this. If you fall to the

01:17:37.810 --> 01:17:41.090
other side like you did before, then that's the

01:17:41.090 --> 01:17:42.329
only thing that will pull me out and never to

01:17:42.329 --> 01:17:44.149
help you again. You must stay on a straight and

01:17:44.149 --> 01:17:46.069
narrow. You must forget about anybody from your

01:17:46.069 --> 01:17:48.670
past life. Any bad friend, any bad boyfriend.

01:17:49.130 --> 01:17:51.369
There's no room for mistake here. You're going

01:17:51.369 --> 01:17:52.550
to we're going to get you out. You're going to.

01:17:52.550 --> 01:17:54.449
She wants to get her GD. She went that she wants

01:17:54.449 --> 01:17:57.550
to go to. She's very good on the computer. She's

01:17:57.550 --> 01:18:00.119
very fast assigned to. There's but she said she

01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:02.720
sheltered because she's on her record. She's

01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:04.819
convicted for attempted murder. So she can't

01:18:04.819 --> 01:18:07.479
be around. She can't go to parks around children.

01:18:07.800 --> 01:18:09.760
She can't rent apartments because they're going

01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:11.739
to do background check and she's she's she's

01:18:11.739 --> 01:18:14.600
got conviction for attempted murder and aggravated

01:18:14.600 --> 01:18:17.859
assault with a deadly laboratory to a to a temporary

01:18:17.859 --> 01:18:22.979
she knows it's temporary. By law. She's not supposed

01:18:22.979 --> 01:18:26.170
to be any we lifted that they put a note You

01:18:26.170 --> 01:18:28.569
know, we lifted that the very first week that

01:18:28.569 --> 01:18:30.210
she was arrested. We didn't want that because

01:18:30.210 --> 01:18:31.909
we didn't want to turn her back up. Christina

01:18:31.909 --> 01:18:35.329
was I was just dating now. She nearly killed

01:18:35.329 --> 01:18:37.569
Christina. Christina had a lot of pain for two

01:18:37.569 --> 01:18:39.449
years going back and forth from rehab and all

01:18:39.449 --> 01:18:41.529
that. And I told her point like, listen, what

01:18:41.529 --> 01:18:43.529
am I allowed to ask you what she did she attack

01:18:43.529 --> 01:18:46.510
you all like with her? I'll tell you that one

01:18:46.510 --> 01:18:48.890
second. I will tell you that I went to Christina

01:18:48.890 --> 01:18:51.090
and I love her to death. To me, I wish I would

01:18:51.090 --> 01:18:53.270
have met her 30 years ago and had my children

01:18:53.270 --> 01:18:55.649
with her because it took me three times to find

01:18:55.739 --> 01:18:59.199
Real love and and and i'm no i'm no prize to

01:18:59.199 --> 01:19:01.520
live with because i'm setting my old ways. Um,

01:19:01.520 --> 01:19:04.539
I got that Sicilian mentality So sometimes I

01:19:04.539 --> 01:19:07.380
I I have that old ways that about how I feel

01:19:07.380 --> 01:19:11.340
about women their place in society I I was raised

01:19:11.340 --> 01:19:13.840
and taught that but i've learned to change that

01:19:13.840 --> 01:19:16.180
that I don't want her walking behind me or in

01:19:16.180 --> 01:19:19.460
front of me We're not 50 50. We're 100 100 walking

01:19:19.460 --> 01:19:21.800
side by side to everything we do and that's how

01:19:21.800 --> 01:19:23.319
I that's how we treat each other That's why our

01:19:23.319 --> 01:19:25.819
marriage works, but I told her listen If you

01:19:25.819 --> 01:19:28.000
want to prosecute my daughter, I'm not going

01:19:28.000 --> 01:19:30.439
to, I still want to marry you because she deserves

01:19:30.439 --> 01:19:32.640
to go to prison for 30 years. That's what I said.

01:19:32.920 --> 01:19:35.140
The cop asked me point blank. Do you feel your

01:19:35.140 --> 01:19:37.319
daughter should go to prison? I said, me? I said,

01:19:37.359 --> 01:19:39.659
as much as I hate to say this, she tried to kill

01:19:39.659 --> 01:19:41.779
a human being. She needs to have repercussions.

01:19:42.060 --> 01:19:43.420
He goes, and then you know what the cop told

01:19:43.420 --> 01:19:46.039
me? I'm going to, he goes, you're probably not

01:19:46.039 --> 01:19:47.340
going to believe I'm going to say this. He goes,

01:19:47.520 --> 01:19:49.319
I imagine she's been in prison her whole life

01:19:49.319 --> 01:19:51.000
being profoundly deaf in the way people treated

01:19:51.000 --> 01:19:53.439
her. So I think that she deserves a second chance.

01:19:53.659 --> 01:19:55.779
I was blown away when a cop told me that. Christina

01:19:55.779 --> 01:19:58.300
looked at me. She says, I live. I love your daughter

01:19:58.300 --> 01:20:00.199
like she's my own. I'm going to go fight for

01:20:00.199 --> 01:20:02.359
her. Christina got her 10 years probation without

01:20:02.359 --> 01:20:06.140
a day in jail. Now, what happened was five years

01:20:06.140 --> 01:20:08.619
in her probation. She was with some drug addicts.

01:20:08.699 --> 01:20:11.340
My daughter was on drugs. I was abusing her.

01:20:11.619 --> 01:20:13.739
Don't let a man put your hands on you. Beat the

01:20:13.739 --> 01:20:15.380
shit out of him. I don't care. She knows how

01:20:15.380 --> 01:20:18.140
to fight very well. And he put his hands on her.

01:20:18.539 --> 01:20:21.140
She grabbed him and she beat him to a pulp. He

01:20:21.140 --> 01:20:22.979
called the police on her and violated her probation

01:20:22.979 --> 01:20:24.939
and she got seven years in prison. Damn, she's

01:20:24.939 --> 01:20:29.319
a badass. Wow. She is a badass. But in the wrong

01:20:29.319 --> 01:20:32.119
way. Rehabilitated. Are you are you guys? I do.

01:20:32.579 --> 01:20:34.760
I think prison scared the hell out of her. I

01:20:34.760 --> 01:20:37.180
got to believe I know my daughter. I know when

01:20:37.180 --> 01:20:39.159
she's bullshitting me and I know in sincerity

01:20:39.159 --> 01:20:42.180
she swears up and down. I never it was hard for

01:20:42.180 --> 01:20:44.380
my daughter. My daughter was most was raped by

01:20:44.380 --> 01:20:47.680
a guard in there in the beginning. She was beat

01:20:47.680 --> 01:20:50.770
up by guards. Other girls. The fact that she

01:20:50.770 --> 01:20:52.670
hasn't stepped forward to fight anybody because

01:20:52.670 --> 01:20:54.369
if she gets caught with it, with fighting or

01:20:54.369 --> 01:20:55.670
hurting anybody, she's going to catch it on charges

01:20:55.670 --> 01:20:57.409
state or the rest of her life. It's probably

01:20:57.409 --> 01:20:59.550
hard to take care of herself too. If need be

01:20:59.550 --> 01:21:02.770
like, I told her not to do anything unless it

01:21:02.770 --> 01:21:04.590
was self strictly self -defense and make sure

01:21:04.590 --> 01:21:06.310
it's in front of a camera so that she does. Cause

01:21:06.310 --> 01:21:08.390
if she was to hurt anybody, she could get another

01:21:08.390 --> 01:21:09.770
charge and that will land her probably the rest

01:21:09.770 --> 01:21:11.310
of her life in prison. Cause she's got two serious

01:21:11.310 --> 01:21:13.470
charges. There's no room for error for her. Now

01:21:13.470 --> 01:21:16.149
what happened that night? Um, yes, she just,

01:21:16.409 --> 01:21:19.060
I came out of the bedroom and she was in a She

01:21:19.060 --> 01:21:21.579
was in one of my typical Heather moods. And I

01:21:21.579 --> 01:21:23.680
said, would you just go to bed? She kept trawling

01:21:23.680 --> 01:21:25.720
at me about something. I go, Heather, I'm going

01:21:25.720 --> 01:21:27.680
to, I don't want to hear this down. He's signing

01:21:27.680 --> 01:21:29.840
me. She's getting on my face. He's spitting at

01:21:29.840 --> 01:21:31.800
me. And I'm like, Heather, we'll talk about this

01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:34.380
tomorrow. Just go to bed, do dad a favor, put

01:21:34.380 --> 01:21:36.739
it to rest. I went back to the bedroom. She was

01:21:36.739 --> 01:21:38.840
out pacing in the hallway between her bedroom.

01:21:39.119 --> 01:21:40.840
Our bedroom was the back bedroom. Her bedroom

01:21:40.840 --> 01:21:42.479
was here, the hallway in the bathroom. Christina

01:21:42.479 --> 01:21:43.640
was in the, taking a shower, getting ready for

01:21:43.640 --> 01:21:46.670
bed. When Christina opened the door, Had a towel

01:21:46.670 --> 01:21:48.390
running to go to the bedroom to come into our

01:21:48.390 --> 01:21:51.550
bedroom to get changed into her pajamas My daughter

01:21:51.550 --> 01:21:53.869
unleashed the knife on her before christina could

01:21:53.869 --> 01:21:56.270
even could even see what happened She stabbed

01:21:56.270 --> 01:21:58.250
her four times in the in the back and in the

01:21:58.250 --> 01:22:00.569
chest back and chest and it continued repeatedly

01:22:00.569 --> 01:22:04.210
did it I heard when I heard the scream It wasn't

01:22:04.210 --> 01:22:06.689
a normal like someone's arguing scream. It was

01:22:06.689 --> 01:22:09.630
the most horrendous Like dying scream that someone

01:22:09.630 --> 01:22:12.050
was calling for help. I ran out of the bedroom

01:22:12.050 --> 01:22:14.380
so fast saw Christine on the floor and I looked

01:22:14.380 --> 01:22:16.260
at my daughter. What the hell did you do? He

01:22:16.260 --> 01:22:18.399
immediately. And I swear to you, she was her

01:22:18.399 --> 01:22:20.859
eyes were bulging red. She can't speak. It's

01:22:20.859 --> 01:22:22.880
like the devil had possession of her. She didn't.

01:22:22.939 --> 01:22:25.399
She was foaming at the mouth. And she's she took

01:22:25.399 --> 01:22:28.560
the knife on me. I was a Michael Myers type fucking.

01:22:28.579 --> 01:22:33.739
I had to. I got two deep cuts back here. I had

01:22:33.739 --> 01:22:35.579
to put my fingers in there. It was like a waterfall

01:22:35.579 --> 01:22:39.199
just to stop. Oh, my God. Wow. I'm scooting on

01:22:39.199 --> 01:22:42.020
the floor. I got to Christina. I got her to get

01:22:42.020 --> 01:22:44.909
up. Now Christina the rope came off and I tried

01:22:44.909 --> 01:22:46.170
to get her out of the house I don't want Heather

01:22:46.170 --> 01:22:48.850
to hurt her no more and I go out to protect you

01:22:48.850 --> 01:22:50.890
from this point on Heather came out again. I

01:22:50.890 --> 01:22:52.229
should I'd leave them for the night But took

01:22:52.229 --> 01:22:55.270
four more shots for um, then I fell at those

01:22:55.270 --> 01:22:57.949
four I was I went down for a minute And she went

01:22:57.949 --> 01:22:59.750
over to Christina and turned and looked at me

01:22:59.750 --> 01:23:01.710
with these beers that started stabbing Christina

01:23:01.710 --> 01:23:05.409
in the head Oh my god, and then I got I don't

01:23:05.409 --> 01:23:07.489
know where I got the strength. I picked myself

01:23:07.489 --> 01:23:11.229
up How big is your daughter, if you don't mind

01:23:11.229 --> 01:23:13.890
me asking, like, is she a large girl? She was

01:23:13.890 --> 01:23:15.829
a very beautiful girl. She was about average

01:23:15.829 --> 01:23:19.010
about about 140, weight 135, 140 at the time

01:23:19.010 --> 01:23:22.229
when she was 21. How tall? She's about 180, she

01:23:22.229 --> 01:23:25.930
says now. How tall is she? She's about five,

01:23:25.930 --> 01:23:29.569
five, four, five, five, I think. She was a very

01:23:29.569 --> 01:23:33.289
beautiful girl. She's got a great body. She's

01:23:33.289 --> 01:23:36.369
very personable, but she's just always had anger.

01:23:37.279 --> 01:23:39.920
I got whatever got me to get up to make her stop.

01:23:40.020 --> 01:23:42.640
I kind of swung at her enough to knock her back.

01:23:42.899 --> 01:23:46.140
And I grabbed Christina and I threw her to the

01:23:46.140 --> 01:23:47.939
door and I said, get the hell out of your run.

01:23:48.279 --> 01:23:51.079
And she goes, no, we're not. We're not leaving

01:23:51.079 --> 01:23:54.739
you here. Go. If I don't see you again, just

01:23:54.739 --> 01:23:56.859
live. And I was ready to die at that point because

01:23:56.859 --> 01:23:59.619
I knew that it's my turn now. She's going to

01:23:59.619 --> 01:24:02.640
finish me off. And all of a sudden she just stopped.

01:24:02.840 --> 01:24:05.279
She stared at me for about five minutes. Her

01:24:05.279 --> 01:24:08.510
eyes like went back to normal. She turned saw

01:24:08.510 --> 01:24:10.489
me on the floor bleeding and started crying like

01:24:10.489 --> 01:24:13.010
a baby. Did I do that to you? Did I do that to

01:24:13.010 --> 01:24:16.029
you? And I thought it's okay. It's okay. So listen,

01:24:16.130 --> 01:24:19.829
Heather, I'm getting ready. I'm dipping here.

01:24:19.829 --> 01:24:21.810
I'm ready to I'm ready to go. I'm about ready.

01:24:21.909 --> 01:24:23.689
The lights are out for me. And I'm trying to

01:24:23.689 --> 01:24:26.609
tell her it's silent. I got blood all over. And

01:24:26.609 --> 01:24:28.789
I'm trying to sign but I took my fingers out.

01:24:28.789 --> 01:24:30.789
It's pouring out. And I'm like losing blood like

01:24:30.789 --> 01:24:33.890
crazy. So I told her, listen, the police are

01:24:33.890 --> 01:24:36.369
coming. Don't run. Please don't run. I want you

01:24:36.369 --> 01:24:38.430
to go outside and sit and wait for the police

01:24:38.430 --> 01:24:41.270
and i'll i'm gonna call dominic your brother

01:24:41.270 --> 01:24:43.189
I don't think dad's gonna be around and tell

01:24:43.189 --> 01:24:45.069
her the better what happens No matter to be on

01:24:45.069 --> 01:24:47.109
your side through this trial And if christina

01:24:47.109 --> 01:24:48.670
dies, you're probably gonna go to jail for the

01:24:48.670 --> 01:24:50.569
rest of your life But hopefully that they don't

01:24:50.569 --> 01:24:51.890
give you the death penalty, you know what i'm

01:24:51.890 --> 01:24:54.329
saying? And and she didn't even know what she

01:24:54.329 --> 01:24:57.189
did. So she took the knife Right there and she

01:24:57.189 --> 01:24:59.850
stabbed herself in the throat How difficult is

01:24:59.850 --> 01:25:02.270
it to communicate with her her being deaf? I

01:25:02.270 --> 01:25:05.840
was a horrible I was horrible at that part. I

01:25:05.840 --> 01:25:08.340
was always working. So I didn't learn fluid sign

01:25:08.340 --> 01:25:10.119
language. I learned to, she used to get very

01:25:10.119 --> 01:25:11.460
frustrated because I didn't take the time to

01:25:11.460 --> 01:25:13.460
learn fluid sign language. I promised her when

01:25:13.460 --> 01:25:15.220
she comes home now that I'm going to be more

01:25:15.220 --> 01:25:17.720
advanced. And, and, and, and she could tell by

01:25:17.720 --> 01:25:20.000
the, how close this, our talks are every day.

01:25:20.380 --> 01:25:22.779
And then she says, you know, she says, dad, you're,

01:25:22.939 --> 01:25:24.039
you're my best friend. You always have been,

01:25:24.039 --> 01:25:26.779
I love you to death. And, and, uh, I said, Heather,

01:25:27.140 --> 01:25:29.159
all you gotta do is this. I already know you're

01:25:29.159 --> 01:25:31.220
remorseful. I already know that you're feeling

01:25:31.220 --> 01:25:34.079
the pain. I love you like the day you were born.

01:25:34.170 --> 01:25:37.029
Christina loves you that parts over only the

01:25:37.029 --> 01:25:39.029
three of us know what happened that night For

01:25:39.029 --> 01:25:40.729
whatever reason that you felt that you had to

01:25:40.729 --> 01:25:42.869
do that Somebody had put her head that we were

01:25:42.869 --> 01:25:44.210
gonna throw her on the street and leave her on

01:25:44.210 --> 01:25:45.949
the street We didn't love her no more somebody

01:25:45.949 --> 01:25:48.489
and her head now I think it's a little more to

01:25:48.489 --> 01:25:51.350
that it had about hours after the divorce came

01:25:51.350 --> 01:25:54.029
in I got the papers from me being divorced from

01:25:54.029 --> 01:25:56.210
her mother It happened exactly 12 hours after

01:25:56.210 --> 01:25:58.029
the papers were delivered to my house the final

01:25:58.029 --> 01:26:01.109
divorce papers Joey I have a question for you

01:26:01.109 --> 01:26:05.159
Now she's gonna be coming home Are aren't you

01:26:05.159 --> 01:26:08.760
frightened? Has she shown progress? I don't think

01:26:08.760 --> 01:26:10.180
that's a lot of progress. I don't think I'd be

01:26:10.180 --> 01:26:12.640
able to, you know, sleep with both eyes closed

01:26:12.640 --> 01:26:15.640
and and not have a gun next to me or something.

01:26:15.800 --> 01:26:19.800
Honestly, I don't. After that, I carry the gun

01:26:19.800 --> 01:26:22.260
everywhere I slept. I for the for the first five

01:26:22.260 --> 01:26:23.920
years, I couldn't take a shower and a gun sitting

01:26:23.920 --> 01:26:26.039
in the shower, because when someone comes at

01:26:26.039 --> 01:26:28.319
you like that, again, I never had my guard up

01:26:28.319 --> 01:26:30.640
for my own children. Never expected this to happen.

01:26:30.680 --> 01:26:33.630
So now at this point, the PTSD collected. And

01:26:33.630 --> 01:26:36.390
I could I I everything had to be locked. No one

01:26:36.390 --> 01:26:37.689
could come in the bathroom with me. Christina

01:26:37.689 --> 01:26:40.130
was nobody was allowed to be. And I had to have

01:26:40.130 --> 01:26:42.210
someone make sure that they were right in the

01:26:42.210 --> 01:26:44.729
vicinity, making sure that that no one's coming

01:26:44.729 --> 01:26:48.090
in. I kept the gun on the soap dish. I kept another

01:26:48.090 --> 01:26:51.069
gun inside the counter because I said to myself,

01:26:51.170 --> 01:26:52.369
I don't care who comes through that door. Everybody

01:26:52.369 --> 01:26:53.890
tries to do this to me again. I'm going to point

01:26:53.890 --> 01:26:55.329
blank. Shoot him. I had an opportunity to kill

01:26:55.329 --> 01:26:57.270
Heather. I had an opportunity. I couldn't do

01:26:57.270 --> 01:26:59.609
it. I'll be honest with you. Anybody else I would

01:26:59.609 --> 01:27:02.029
have shot dead. Right. I had the gun and I was

01:27:02.029 --> 01:27:04.340
going to kill her. And I couldn't do it. I looked

01:27:04.340 --> 01:27:06.159
at my little all I saw was my little daughter

01:27:06.159 --> 01:27:08.340
when I pulled the gun on her and told her I was

01:27:08.340 --> 01:27:10.479
going to kill you. I couldn't do it. I'll be

01:27:10.479 --> 01:27:12.079
I'll tell you right now. I couldn't do it. I

01:27:12.079 --> 01:27:14.319
faced my child. I couldn't do it. Yeah. Christina

01:27:14.319 --> 01:27:16.380
made it across the neighbors and collapsed. And

01:27:16.380 --> 01:27:18.560
a neighbor wouldn't open a door. She threw the

01:27:18.560 --> 01:27:20.760
phone out and she's on the floor passed out.

01:27:21.119 --> 01:27:23.119
The ambulance landed on the street for her. She

01:27:23.119 --> 01:27:25.579
was so critical. And then they they took me a

01:27:25.579 --> 01:27:27.359
mile and heathered mile. They airlifted us from

01:27:27.359 --> 01:27:29.619
the hospital two miles on a road. I never went

01:27:29.619 --> 01:27:32.949
critical. I was always I was in step down. I

01:27:32.949 --> 01:27:35.949
see you. I got out after three days. I had eight

01:27:35.949 --> 01:27:38.869
wounds. Most of them were flesh wounds, except

01:27:38.869 --> 01:27:41.229
for the one that hit the artery back here. That

01:27:41.229 --> 01:27:44.810
was the one here in this one. But yeah, Heather,

01:27:44.890 --> 01:27:49.090
you almost died getting stabbed. You had the

01:27:49.090 --> 01:27:51.729
health issue recently. So you've been pretty

01:27:51.729 --> 01:27:53.630
close to death a couple of times, Joe. Well,

01:27:53.850 --> 01:27:56.369
my younger years, I've had a lot of stuff happen

01:27:56.369 --> 01:28:01.399
to me. I did a lot of things. I grew up in Chicago

01:28:01.399 --> 01:28:03.920
in a very rough place and I did whatever it took

01:28:03.920 --> 01:28:08.720
to feed my family. I've done things that most

01:28:08.720 --> 01:28:11.680
people couldn't even fathom to do, even though

01:28:11.680 --> 01:28:13.520
nobody believes it. But I could tell you, I got

01:28:13.520 --> 01:28:16.960
the battle wounds and I got the jail marks and

01:28:16.960 --> 01:28:19.960
the scars to prove it. But I don't care. I've

01:28:19.960 --> 01:28:23.340
done a lot of things. Are you circumcised? Yes,

01:28:23.680 --> 01:28:27.319
I am. Yeah, I am. That's a good question. I just

01:28:27.319 --> 01:28:31.399
won $500. Yeah, I am. Someone thinks I'm not

01:28:31.399 --> 01:28:34.199
circumcised. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

01:28:34.500 --> 01:28:36.659
Because I am circumcised. The proliferation of

01:28:36.659 --> 01:28:40.060
Shmuel Buckman's in the medical. I think Shmuel's

01:28:40.060 --> 01:28:42.579
done. I don't think he circumcised. You know

01:28:42.579 --> 01:28:45.000
what? Let me get to some super chats. I don't

01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:47.399
I don't mean to cut you off, Joey. I got to do

01:28:47.399 --> 01:28:51.100
a palate cleanser. Nothing cleanses the palate

01:28:51.100 --> 01:28:55.079
more than some nice insults. Yes. Well, I don't

01:28:55.079 --> 01:28:58.159
think this insult. Dates watch. Ava, do you consider

01:28:58.159 --> 01:29:01.600
yourself a 2026 Lydia Dietz? You give Beetlejuice

01:29:01.600 --> 01:29:04.199
vibes. I don't know who that is. Is that the

01:29:04.199 --> 01:29:06.659
Winona Ryder character? I think so. Sorry to

01:29:06.659 --> 01:29:13.439
cut you off, the rabbi said. That was the Winona

01:29:13.439 --> 01:29:15.920
Ryder character in Beetlejuice. That's actually

01:29:15.920 --> 01:29:18.619
a pretty cool character. That is a cool character.

01:29:18.960 --> 01:29:21.739
Yeah, that's a compliment. People say that all

01:29:21.739 --> 01:29:24.029
the time and it's like, I'm not... Insulted by

01:29:24.029 --> 01:29:26.710
that. I don't think anything. You have thick

01:29:26.710 --> 01:29:28.869
skin. I don't think anything insults you. Honestly,

01:29:28.970 --> 01:29:31.090
it really doesn't. People hurl some terrible

01:29:31.090 --> 01:29:34.710
stuff toward you. But Gino says Ava has a huge

01:29:34.710 --> 01:29:36.989
hog for a dollar. Ninety nine. There you go.

01:29:37.010 --> 01:29:39.109
You got a compliment there. Was that the real

01:29:39.109 --> 01:29:43.970
Gino? Yeah, it is. It is. It is. Oh, dude, that's

01:29:43.970 --> 01:29:47.869
fucking really, dude. Yeah. What do you know

01:29:47.869 --> 01:29:50.569
about a five year old compared to him? Oh, yeah.

01:29:50.989 --> 01:29:54.789
that's a compliment we had to break up the weird

01:29:54.789 --> 01:29:57.989
that there's like just this subculture just like

01:29:57.989 --> 01:30:00.949
that or did you see i was got a huge like hog

01:30:00.949 --> 01:30:05.210
and hot like it is it's weird it's weird because

01:30:05.210 --> 01:30:08.989
people i you know it's weird how people uh fixate

01:30:08.989 --> 01:30:12.810
on other people's genitals am i like am i not

01:30:12.810 --> 01:30:15.529
getting it in that it's normal for them to make

01:30:15.529 --> 01:30:18.800
that joke because i'm trans or like I, it's just

01:30:18.800 --> 01:30:20.859
weird. You know, I had a huge hog. That would

01:30:20.859 --> 01:30:23.279
be a compliment for me, but maybe not for you.

01:30:23.279 --> 01:30:27.560
I don't know. It's just so prevalent. I think

01:30:27.560 --> 01:30:30.359
she knows Biden. Do you have a huge hog? She

01:30:30.359 --> 01:30:33.460
knows just like, Oh yeah. Do you like to juggle

01:30:33.460 --> 01:30:36.239
balls? They're huge. Huh? Have you juggled a

01:30:36.239 --> 01:30:38.699
lot of balls in your time? No, I can't juggle.

01:30:38.939 --> 01:30:41.699
Okay. You, did you do any cock gazing when you

01:30:41.699 --> 01:30:44.640
were in the, in the white house? You seem to

01:30:44.640 --> 01:30:47.859
be a very sick sated. Yes, I am. I love cock.

01:30:47.939 --> 01:30:52.000
I love it. Cut that. Have you ever had a gay

01:30:52.000 --> 01:30:55.460
experience? Me? Yeah. No, never. No. Not even

01:30:55.460 --> 01:30:57.979
for drugs? Nope. No, never. I've got a lot of

01:30:57.979 --> 01:31:01.020
gay friends. I've always respected. I've never

01:31:01.020 --> 01:31:03.720
ever went after any of I never insulted them.

01:31:04.039 --> 01:31:06.359
I've had a real hit on me in my younger years.

01:31:06.439 --> 01:31:08.619
You didn't really have one of those nights where

01:31:08.619 --> 01:31:11.699
it's just like a hand of God. Am I all my my

01:31:11.699 --> 01:31:14.600
grandbabies drop dead? I swear to God. He would

01:31:14.600 --> 01:31:17.300
tell us if he did. I would be ashamed of it.

01:31:17.300 --> 01:31:20.859
I love facts. My thing is, I've been hit on by

01:31:20.859 --> 01:31:22.380
a couple of them. Wanted to take me home for

01:31:22.380 --> 01:31:25.079
one night. And my response to them was, I like

01:31:25.079 --> 01:31:28.460
you, but I'm just not your type. And as long

01:31:28.460 --> 01:31:30.060
as we understand that, me and you can be best

01:31:30.060 --> 01:31:32.460
friends. And they never went past those boundaries.

01:31:32.899 --> 01:31:35.340
I was very upfront. I never mean to nobody like

01:31:35.340 --> 01:31:37.520
that. I don't care what you are. If you're a

01:31:37.520 --> 01:31:40.420
good soul and we're hanging out. I don't care.

01:31:40.420 --> 01:31:41.859
I don't care what you do when you go home. It's

01:31:41.859 --> 01:31:43.960
your business. I don't care. But, you know, of

01:31:43.960 --> 01:31:46.000
course, they're not going to know if you are

01:31:46.000 --> 01:31:47.619
unless they hit on you. So I wasn't offended

01:31:47.619 --> 01:31:50.720
by that. You know, that didn't offend me. I know

01:31:50.720 --> 01:31:53.039
I my wife says I'm still good looking at 60,

01:31:53.039 --> 01:31:55.220
but I was I was hot in my 20s. I promise you

01:31:55.220 --> 01:31:58.539
that, you know. Well, Joey, you're getting back

01:31:58.539 --> 01:32:01.119
there. You're you're you're set down is kicking

01:32:01.119 --> 01:32:04.460
in. It's working well. Yes, thank you. And Ava,

01:32:04.460 --> 01:32:07.920
you want to get one more psycho cool from Oregon

01:32:07.920 --> 01:32:11.189
for ninety nine. That's a good band name, Psycho

01:32:11.189 --> 01:32:15.829
Ghouls from Oregon. I like it, too. This is a

01:32:15.829 --> 01:32:18.789
mild one. Ava puts her cam high so you can't

01:32:18.789 --> 01:32:22.109
see the Adam's apple. The camera's as low as

01:32:22.109 --> 01:32:24.289
it can be with the monitor. I put my camera.

01:32:24.529 --> 01:32:28.909
I don't think I have an Adam's apple. Is that

01:32:28.909 --> 01:32:31.390
weird that I don't have one? Like, I didn't get

01:32:31.390 --> 01:32:33.430
it removed or anything. I just don't have it.

01:32:33.750 --> 01:32:35.449
Here's my question. Are you comfortable who you

01:32:35.449 --> 01:32:38.449
are? Absolutely. And you know what? That's all

01:32:38.449 --> 01:32:40.449
I want to hear. Fuck the rest of excuse my language.

01:32:40.750 --> 01:32:45.829
Yeah, that's yeah. Fuck the rest. You know what?

01:32:46.050 --> 01:32:49.229
I honestly, Ava, I can tell you're comfortable

01:32:49.229 --> 01:32:52.390
in your own skin. Otherwise, I really wouldn't

01:32:52.390 --> 01:32:54.430
want to read these things that I'm reading to

01:32:54.430 --> 01:32:57.630
you. Oh, you're right. No, no. Don't ever. And

01:32:57.630 --> 01:32:59.590
I'm like sitting here. I just realized I'm sitting

01:32:59.590 --> 01:33:02.529
here reading them like so cheerful. No, no, no.

01:33:02.890 --> 01:33:06.660
No, they're good. No, everyone gets a good. Like

01:33:06.660 --> 01:33:08.979
I said, you know, I've watched you on different

01:33:08.979 --> 01:33:12.399
shows and you can handle yourself very well.

01:33:12.779 --> 01:33:15.220
You're thick skinned. You're based. You're awesome.

01:33:15.420 --> 01:33:17.659
Why don't you do your own show? I'm just curious.

01:33:17.840 --> 01:33:19.159
Like what have you have you considered doing

01:33:19.159 --> 01:33:21.380
it? Like, I mean, you seem like you could you

01:33:21.380 --> 01:33:23.960
could pull it off easily. I mean, you seem you're

01:33:23.960 --> 01:33:26.260
a compelling person and you can talk and is it

01:33:26.260 --> 01:33:28.159
something you're interested in? Thank you for

01:33:28.159 --> 01:33:30.710
that. I wasn't doing it because I was like full

01:33:30.710 --> 01:33:34.369
-time working in school, but I just graduated

01:33:34.369 --> 01:33:36.350
a few weeks ago, and then I'm still processing.

01:33:36.609 --> 01:33:39.810
I have like this half a day now that I can just

01:33:39.810 --> 01:33:41.670
do what I want, so I've been considering it.

01:33:41.930 --> 01:33:44.130
I wouldn't want to do, I don't know, I have a

01:33:44.130 --> 01:33:45.930
few ideas, but I wouldn't want to do anything

01:33:45.930 --> 01:33:49.909
like - Ava, are you studying the dabble verse?

01:33:50.189 --> 01:33:53.050
Because you - majoring in psychology? Are you

01:33:53.050 --> 01:33:56.989
studying this weird kind of world of misfits

01:33:56.989 --> 01:34:00.189
and, and freaks and whatever you want to call

01:34:00.189 --> 01:34:02.649
everybody here? Are you like, this would be a

01:34:02.649 --> 01:34:05.569
good case study? I mean, I'll be honest. No,

01:34:05.770 --> 01:34:07.590
because like the most disappointing thing about

01:34:07.590 --> 01:34:11.390
people here is like, it's like almost a failure

01:34:11.390 --> 01:34:13.789
to just deter, like conclude that things are

01:34:13.789 --> 01:34:17.439
projection. But some all of this is so So like

01:34:17.439 --> 01:34:19.779
99 % of this is all projection. So it's not even

01:34:19.779 --> 01:34:23.119
interesting on a psychology level it made me

01:34:23.119 --> 01:34:26.920
like interested in like I never use reddit or

01:34:26.920 --> 01:34:30.520
anything until like six months it made me interested

01:34:30.520 --> 01:34:34.720
in like privacy and law in those terms and doxing

01:34:34.720 --> 01:34:37.479
and and like where the US sits compared to other

01:34:37.479 --> 01:34:39.680
countries and like how to navigate those it's

01:34:39.680 --> 01:34:42.439
made me interested in just like what why are

01:34:42.439 --> 01:34:44.100
people able to get away with like certain things

01:34:44.100 --> 01:34:46.609
that like, you know, like Cross a certain line.

01:34:46.829 --> 01:34:51.449
Like why, why, why, how. Right. Thanks Joe. Thank

01:34:51.449 --> 01:34:55.729
you. Ava, I noticed something different. I changed

01:34:55.729 --> 01:34:58.130
it. You took the dick pic down. Yeah, because

01:34:58.130 --> 01:35:01.229
we're dealing with children. They're just going

01:35:01.229 --> 01:35:03.329
to. Yeah. But now you pointed out. So they're

01:35:03.329 --> 01:35:06.510
just going to. Yeah. Even the show network will

01:35:06.510 --> 01:35:08.949
probably try to strike me now. They're short

01:35:08.949 --> 01:35:11.409
on material. I mean, I mean, good Lord, no one's

01:35:11.409 --> 01:35:13.489
talking about the Shuli show lately. What have

01:35:13.489 --> 01:35:15.949
you heard somebody talk about that? I mean, what

01:35:15.949 --> 01:35:17.909
are they doing these days? Watch the Shuli show.

01:35:18.310 --> 01:35:20.229
Dude, they've tried like they tried doing this

01:35:20.229 --> 01:35:23.279
thing where it's like. music that reminds us

01:35:23.279 --> 01:35:26.000
of things. And it's just like, but they have

01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:27.760
to do it on rumble because they're just breaking

01:35:27.760 --> 01:35:30.800
copyright law there by playing licensed music.

01:35:31.119 --> 01:35:33.220
And then they have like some like fat person

01:35:33.220 --> 01:35:36.119
and then they have like some whack packer read

01:35:36.119 --> 01:35:38.699
the Howard rejected this guy. They do like the

01:35:38.699 --> 01:35:42.119
locales and that nobody wants nobody likes it.

01:35:42.539 --> 01:35:45.619
And so that's what's so great about getting to

01:35:45.619 --> 01:35:48.119
be with john and just telling them that they

01:35:48.119 --> 01:35:50.199
don't they don't have any skill sets because

01:35:50.199 --> 01:35:51.979
now it's getting it got in their head and so

01:35:51.979 --> 01:35:53.579
they keep trying these things but whenever they

01:35:53.579 --> 01:35:56.020
do it no one watches their show i always love

01:35:56.020 --> 01:35:58.100
the people they say they're on rumble um we're

01:35:58.100 --> 01:36:00.159
happy to be on rumble and we can no you're not

01:36:00.159 --> 01:36:03.000
no you're nobody's happy to be on rumble right

01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:08.939
i'm sorry i mean hopefully we don't end up uh

01:36:08.939 --> 01:36:12.359
relegated there but uh day to us says joe sniffs

01:36:12.359 --> 01:36:16.380
off his hair is that true joe I sniff everyone's

01:36:16.380 --> 01:36:19.760
hip. Wait, that's not even none of your business.

01:36:20.300 --> 01:36:23.979
I like it's way too nuanced of a point to make

01:36:23.979 --> 01:36:25.899
about like the one time I structurally show,

01:36:26.020 --> 01:36:30.300
but I'm normally a very like libertarian libertarian

01:36:30.300 --> 01:36:32.399
about these types of things. Like I was a person

01:36:32.399 --> 01:36:34.439
that was trying to defend Alex Jones and they're

01:36:34.439 --> 01:36:36.100
trying to throw him off YouTube. And so I see

01:36:36.100 --> 01:36:39.000
like rumble as an asset for that type of material.

01:36:39.039 --> 01:36:41.039
But like when you're looking at like someone

01:36:41.039 --> 01:36:43.920
like surely what he wants. It yeah, he doesn't

01:36:43.920 --> 01:36:46.439
want to be on rumble, you know, he wants to tell

01:36:46.439 --> 01:36:49.619
you what I know about already I can tell you

01:36:49.619 --> 01:36:52.039
one thing I learned from Ava. She's a very passionate

01:36:52.039 --> 01:36:55.319
loves a loves kissing in a deep deep deep passionate

01:36:55.319 --> 01:37:01.159
way. What's going on? Am I right? Me? Yes. Yeah.

01:37:01.279 --> 01:37:04.220
Joey, you got a nice long walk on the beach.

01:37:04.640 --> 01:37:08.539
Yeah. And any other place in my life, I'm like

01:37:08.539 --> 01:37:13.699
the opposite of my walk. Joe, do you like what

01:37:13.699 --> 01:37:15.600
walks on the beach? Romantic walks on the beach?

01:37:15.600 --> 01:37:17.819
Oh, romantic walks. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm a very

01:37:17.819 --> 01:37:20.479
romantic person when it comes to that. I'm Joe.

01:37:21.479 --> 01:37:26.359
I believe in I believe in satisfying way before

01:37:26.359 --> 01:37:29.699
I need to be. I believe in man. No, fuck you,

01:37:29.720 --> 01:37:33.000
prop that drum off like he's playing speed metal.

01:37:33.279 --> 01:37:35.159
And so all of you idiots just hear the double

01:37:35.159 --> 01:37:37.680
kick rolls. You're like, oh, that they're better

01:37:37.680 --> 01:37:41.399
drummer than Ava. Like you try writing an original

01:37:41.399 --> 01:37:44.869
drum part. Yeah, like that's like creative. That's

01:37:44.869 --> 01:37:48.689
like yeah, you try my drum parts You could anybody

01:37:48.689 --> 01:37:51.470
could that what spends six months trying to learn

01:37:51.470 --> 01:37:54.369
and Scott's awesome But his drum parts is just

01:37:54.369 --> 01:37:56.970
a sport try to learn my fucking drum parts you

01:37:56.970 --> 01:37:59.270
fucking bitch. Hey Joey I want to go back to

01:37:59.270 --> 01:38:00.930
one thing you just said so you said you take

01:38:00.930 --> 01:38:05.160
you take care of other things first before I

01:38:05.160 --> 01:38:07.880
didn't play the drums on that show. They played

01:38:07.880 --> 01:38:12.300
a track and they didn't have the levels right

01:38:12.300 --> 01:38:14.460
and they played it out of the left speaker so

01:38:14.460 --> 01:38:17.119
you couldn't hear the stereo double kicking it.

01:38:17.279 --> 01:38:19.640
You're a fucking bitch. You're not one of those

01:38:19.640 --> 01:38:22.020
Italian guys. Sorry Dan, sorry. No, shut up.

01:38:22.300 --> 01:38:24.420
Like they say in the Sopranos, like Uncle Junior

01:38:24.420 --> 01:38:25.880
didn't do certain things. You're not one of those.

01:38:25.880 --> 01:38:29.000
Oh, no, no, no. Listen. I'll destroy all of you

01:38:29.000 --> 01:38:31.659
motherfuckers on drums. See, I'm a one man, I'm

01:38:31.659 --> 01:38:34.329
for one woman. I don't even look at it. My wife

01:38:34.329 --> 01:38:37.350
will tell you, I don't even get I if I see something

01:38:37.350 --> 01:38:39.710
walking. I don't even give that vibes that I

01:38:39.710 --> 01:38:42.390
am very loyal. I won't. I will never sleep out

01:38:42.390 --> 01:38:45.210
my marriage, but I give 100. I don't sleep. I

01:38:45.210 --> 01:38:47.710
marriage. You know, I just won't do it. Now,

01:38:47.710 --> 01:38:50.090
in my past, in my younger years, because my other

01:38:50.090 --> 01:38:52.529
marriages were not solid ground. Now I've done

01:38:52.529 --> 01:38:54.689
a lot of things. You just said you were a loyal

01:38:54.689 --> 01:38:59.050
man. I am. I grow. I've grown with my. Yeah,

01:38:59.390 --> 01:39:02.329
I have more than one marriage, man. I said if

01:39:02.329 --> 01:39:03.909
I ever got someone that I knew love was real,

01:39:03.909 --> 01:39:06.109
I would always I would change my whole outlook

01:39:06.109 --> 01:39:08.689
and never do her wrong. And that's what I did.

01:39:08.770 --> 01:39:10.770
I kept my promise. Yeah, you have to do her in

01:39:10.770 --> 01:39:13.489
some correct way, man. I make love to my wife.

01:39:13.590 --> 01:39:15.189
I never say I fuck my wife. I make love to my

01:39:15.189 --> 01:39:18.109
wife every time. Oh, wait. What's the difference?

01:39:18.430 --> 01:39:20.369
There's a big language as we like to say, right?

01:39:20.750 --> 01:39:23.329
Right. I don't think my wife is a fuck. She's

01:39:23.329 --> 01:39:26.210
my lover and my best friend. So I don't ever

01:39:26.210 --> 01:39:29.789
use those words. That sounds gay, man. But it

01:39:29.789 --> 01:39:33.890
is, you know. Get another random super chat here

01:39:33.890 --> 01:39:36.550
soft weekly for five. Is it true? The nice podcast.

01:39:36.789 --> 01:39:40.430
Nice stupid podcast. Hard daily to soft week.

01:39:40.529 --> 01:39:43.430
Soft daily to Joe, Joe, Joe. President Joe knows

01:39:43.430 --> 01:39:45.590
all about being soft weekly, right? Right. President

01:39:45.590 --> 01:39:48.710
Joe, do you find it anymore? Huh? Do you even

01:39:48.710 --> 01:39:52.689
find it anymore? Just find what? You know what?

01:39:52.949 --> 01:39:56.630
The clitoris dummy. No, not the clitoris. Is

01:39:56.630 --> 01:39:58.970
Dr. Jill like when you go down on her president

01:39:58.970 --> 01:40:02.600
Biden? Well, did Yeah. Is it true you had an

01:40:02.600 --> 01:40:05.319
affair with Michelle Obama? You know, like black

01:40:05.319 --> 01:40:08.220
women. But my my my daughter really, I mean,

01:40:08.359 --> 01:40:12.619
she likes when yeah. His daughter, like, said

01:40:12.619 --> 01:40:17.260
that that he groped her, didn't she? Wow. I didn't

01:40:17.260 --> 01:40:20.760
say that. Who said it had hours with, you know,

01:40:21.180 --> 01:40:24.460
well, she's insane, you know, never doing in

01:40:24.460 --> 01:40:26.079
the Lincoln room. Yeah. Well, yeah. What happened

01:40:26.079 --> 01:40:28.100
with Ashley? What happened with Ashley, President

01:40:28.100 --> 01:40:30.380
Biden? What happened with Ashley Biden? I don't

01:40:30.380 --> 01:40:35.260
know. She had a falling out with her sister Whitney

01:40:35.260 --> 01:40:38.680
or something. I don't think. No, she didn't say

01:40:38.680 --> 01:40:40.779
Whitney. She said that. She said that you did

01:40:40.779 --> 01:40:45.060
that. No, no. It was something about a watch

01:40:45.060 --> 01:40:50.579
and then the horse. You set a timer and you said

01:40:50.579 --> 01:40:53.380
suck my dick to completion in like 60 seconds.

01:40:54.060 --> 01:40:56.420
No. That's what you said to her. No, Whitney.

01:40:56.659 --> 01:41:00.140
Whitney stole Ashley's horse. It's Ashley. No,

01:41:00.199 --> 01:41:02.119
it's not the horse. Oh, I see what you're doing.

01:41:02.840 --> 01:41:05.819
Yeah. President Biden, how does it feel that

01:41:05.819 --> 01:41:07.039
you're going to go down in history as the worst

01:41:07.039 --> 01:41:08.760
president in the history of the United States?

01:41:08.880 --> 01:41:11.979
He really is the worst. Come on, man. You really

01:41:11.979 --> 01:41:13.760
are the worst. Fuck you, asshole. You were the

01:41:13.760 --> 01:41:15.180
worst. You were the worst. I hate you. You were

01:41:15.180 --> 01:41:17.340
pretty bad, Biden. You went 20 years too late.

01:41:17.619 --> 01:41:19.960
First of all, good job stealing the first. Did

01:41:19.960 --> 01:41:22.920
you ever poop your pants while talking to the

01:41:22.920 --> 01:41:27.399
pope? Yes. You look like the Pope and he's dead.

01:41:27.819 --> 01:41:30.439
Yeah. But you got to think about this guy. Here's

01:41:30.439 --> 01:41:32.239
a guy that drives around with a glass bulletproof

01:41:32.239 --> 01:41:34.600
car and he's supposed to be the the holiness

01:41:34.600 --> 01:41:36.720
of the world. But he's afraid that somebody is

01:41:36.720 --> 01:41:38.720
going to snipe him. See, you know that he's in

01:41:38.720 --> 01:41:41.520
a car anymore. He's a fucking senile bozo. Yeah.

01:41:41.720 --> 01:41:43.420
And you know that the Vatican is the most corrupt

01:41:43.420 --> 01:41:46.279
place in the world. They launder more money for

01:41:46.279 --> 01:41:48.060
the mob in the Vatican than any other place in

01:41:48.060 --> 01:41:51.079
this world. Oh, he on your religion. Oh, boy.

01:41:51.279 --> 01:41:53.439
You can't even know this shit, man. They speak.

01:41:53.640 --> 01:41:56.199
They they're all over there in Spain, speaking

01:41:56.199 --> 01:41:58.539
Italian and how many how many plots can you do

01:41:58.539 --> 01:42:00.560
right now? How many plots can you do right now?

01:42:00.899 --> 01:42:06.359
I just did 20 right now. Oh, but he doesn't do

01:42:06.359 --> 01:42:10.439
pull ups. He wears them. Ah, there you go. All

01:42:10.439 --> 01:42:12.079
right. That's a good one. Nailed it. That's good.

01:42:12.319 --> 01:42:14.140
Hey, no, we don't think it's a real Joe Biden.

01:42:16.359 --> 01:42:19.260
Joe I'm gonna put you to sleep for right now

01:42:19.260 --> 01:42:22.880
put a lid on that. So there we go and soft weekly

01:42:22.880 --> 01:42:25.659
for five dollars Is it true that nice stupid

01:42:25.659 --> 01:42:29.479
podcast will be joining the Beggy monster family?

01:42:29.520 --> 01:42:32.100
I've heard you already have an account set up.

01:42:32.100 --> 01:42:36.539
I told soft weekly I'll help them open beta tests

01:42:36.539 --> 01:42:39.939
is it's it's basically to Compete I guess with

01:42:39.939 --> 01:42:44.680
melted soup. I saw it. It looks good We're not

01:42:44.680 --> 01:42:46.939
doing, I don't do business with Melton, so we're

01:42:46.939 --> 01:42:50.180
not doing it. But, uh, it's got, you actually

01:42:50.180 --> 01:42:53.819
can set up basically super tips. Well, if you're

01:42:53.819 --> 01:42:56.680
tech savvy enough with some of these other, uh,

01:42:56.760 --> 01:42:59.159
what's your take on, what is your take on Melton

01:42:59.159 --> 01:43:03.779
Dan? Um, in what regard? Just as your overall

01:43:03.779 --> 01:43:09.119
assessment. Um, I don't have really any beef

01:43:09.119 --> 01:43:11.640
per se with Melton, if that's where we're going.

01:43:11.720 --> 01:43:14.279
But I, but I would just say that I think Just

01:43:14.279 --> 01:43:16.600
like a lot of the characters and this is actually

01:43:16.600 --> 01:43:19.140
I think would pertain to a lot of the people

01:43:19.140 --> 01:43:22.020
I like to call the gatekeeper class of the dabble

01:43:22.020 --> 01:43:23.560
verse. These people that have like the larger

01:43:23.560 --> 01:43:27.960
shows. It's not necessarily like a true meritocracy

01:43:27.960 --> 01:43:31.079
that they're doing anything that's like so amazing

01:43:31.079 --> 01:43:33.800
or talented, especially with certain people.

01:43:33.800 --> 01:43:36.039
Some are more talented than others. Like I think

01:43:36.039 --> 01:43:38.880
Dookie does have talent. I think Carl is good,

01:43:38.960 --> 01:43:42.750
like a radio program guy. for what he does. And

01:43:42.750 --> 01:43:45.409
Melton has things that he does well, but a lot

01:43:45.409 --> 01:43:47.350
of it is just the time that you've been doing

01:43:47.350 --> 01:43:50.529
it, the time you've put in, like Merge, Melton,

01:43:50.909 --> 01:43:53.069
Carl, these guys have all been doing it five,

01:43:53.170 --> 01:43:56.510
10, some cases 15, 20 years, and you build up

01:43:56.510 --> 01:43:59.470
an audience over time. It doesn't happen overnight

01:43:59.470 --> 01:44:03.510
that you get like 900 live viewers. Unless you're

01:44:03.510 --> 01:44:06.689
going to do like the crying karmic thing where

01:44:06.689 --> 01:44:08.890
you're like everything's performative and you

01:44:08.890 --> 01:44:11.510
have a gay character or then you cry and then

01:44:11.510 --> 01:44:14.930
it's all, you know, basically you're being a

01:44:14.930 --> 01:44:17.970
clown really. I understand you're respecting

01:44:17.970 --> 01:44:21.670
the hierarchy of it, but outside of that frame,

01:44:21.909 --> 01:44:24.289
how do you assess him as a good talent and as

01:44:24.289 --> 01:44:29.750
a broadcaster? I would say that It's a good question.

01:44:29.970 --> 01:44:33.529
I'll ask Deb. Deb, go first. I'm sorry, you don't

01:44:33.529 --> 01:44:35.689
have to end me there. No, it's a good question.

01:44:35.970 --> 01:44:37.310
I'll let you hear what Deb has to say first.

01:44:37.789 --> 01:44:40.510
Melton's been doing it for 20 years. It's 2006,

01:44:40.510 --> 01:44:42.850
correct? Is that when he first came on? 2005,

01:44:43.350 --> 01:44:47.449
2006, around that. Yeah. I respect him because

01:44:47.449 --> 01:44:51.930
to me, it takes a lot to be able to carry a show

01:44:51.930 --> 01:44:56.579
for five, six, four, whatever many hours as a

01:44:56.579 --> 01:45:00.520
solo person. I'm not at that point. I need people

01:45:00.520 --> 01:45:03.279
to riff off and bounce off and have a discussion

01:45:03.279 --> 01:45:06.180
with. So anybody that can do it and isn't just

01:45:06.180 --> 01:45:08.779
like, you know, no offense to Karmic, but isn't

01:45:08.779 --> 01:45:12.140
just crying one moment and doing word salad.

01:45:12.380 --> 01:45:15.300
He puts together an excellent show. Do you have

01:45:15.300 --> 01:45:22.109
you ever watched five hours of full? When the

01:45:22.109 --> 01:45:25.970
topics are what I am interested in so There's

01:45:25.970 --> 01:45:30.130
a lot of topics. I did I got tired of the this

01:45:30.130 --> 01:45:33.989
is it like another John Everybody was going after

01:45:33.989 --> 01:45:37.489
steeltoe and so that was the guy they all when

01:45:37.489 --> 01:45:39.609
John wasn't around especially that was the guy

01:45:39.609 --> 01:45:44.050
they all pivoted toward was Aaron and and again

01:45:44.050 --> 01:45:46.680
I get tired of anybody that makes fun of one

01:45:46.680 --> 01:45:48.899
guy, no matter whether I like that guy or not,

01:45:49.180 --> 01:45:53.060
I get bored very easily. Melton's a good broadcaster.

01:45:53.100 --> 01:45:56.199
He makes me laugh. I find him entertaining. All

01:45:56.199 --> 01:45:59.960
of these shows are for different audiences and

01:45:59.960 --> 01:46:03.539
some crossover. Ultimately, the market decides.

01:46:04.199 --> 01:46:07.039
We have a disagreement on that one because to

01:46:07.039 --> 01:46:10.319
me, Melton, I know you didn't ask, so you can

01:46:10.319 --> 01:46:13.760
tell me to shut up. I would rather watch Karmic.

01:46:14.439 --> 01:46:18.300
just like if if if I if I'm like I'm drinking

01:46:18.300 --> 01:46:20.720
coffee in the morning and it's like I'm presented

01:46:20.720 --> 01:46:23.479
with Melton is doing the show or comic I'm like

01:46:23.479 --> 01:46:27.880
putting comic on and it's I just he his and it's

01:46:27.880 --> 01:46:30.180
not because I respect him but it's just I don't

01:46:30.180 --> 01:46:31.600
know he's just so much more interesting to me

01:46:31.600 --> 01:46:35.340
like I mean Melton just is like a fat slob know

01:46:35.340 --> 01:46:37.619
-it -all that just like he's just like Carl and

01:46:37.619 --> 01:46:40.640
he just like is like hey look at That's that

01:46:40.640 --> 01:46:42.779
is just that interesting to me. I'd rather watch

01:46:42.779 --> 01:46:45.260
some of that comic like just really have no ability

01:46:45.260 --> 01:46:47.680
to like manage his life and seven meltdowns live

01:46:47.680 --> 01:46:50.619
on camera. Right? Right. I would but to each

01:46:50.619 --> 01:46:54.220
their own to each. I don't watch it all the time.

01:46:54.220 --> 01:46:57.100
But sometimes there's topics he hits on. But

01:46:57.100 --> 01:47:00.180
yeah, what he you know, as your friend in the

01:47:00.180 --> 01:47:03.039
chat said, you know, he's kind of arrogant at

01:47:03.039 --> 01:47:05.659
times, you know, very arrogant. And I feel like

01:47:05.659 --> 01:47:08.119
I don't get it with him. Carl is arrogant. Carl

01:47:08.119 --> 01:47:12.100
has gotten a big head. you know, Melton can be

01:47:12.100 --> 01:47:14.899
arrogant at times, but when you meet him in person,

01:47:14.920 --> 01:47:20.439
he's really nice. I'm sure he's a nice guy. I

01:47:20.439 --> 01:47:22.359
understand that he's done. I'm sorry to interrupt

01:47:22.359 --> 01:47:24.239
you. Go ahead. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's

01:47:24.239 --> 01:47:26.939
a nice guy. And I think a lot of all of us are

01:47:26.939 --> 01:47:28.859
a little over the top when we're, when we're

01:47:28.859 --> 01:47:31.119
on a stream, but when you get everybody in the

01:47:31.119 --> 01:47:33.800
same room, everybody, most people can be, most

01:47:33.800 --> 01:47:36.319
people looking at you, Brandon, most people can

01:47:36.319 --> 01:47:39.649
be civil, but like, That's the thing that I feel

01:47:39.649 --> 01:47:42.289
like is a disconnect here is that half of the

01:47:42.289 --> 01:47:45.869
people are like, hey, do I like this guy? And

01:47:45.869 --> 01:47:47.569
then the other half are assessing it about like,

01:47:47.649 --> 01:47:51.609
is this entertainment? And like, I'm sure Melton's

01:47:51.609 --> 01:47:54.289
a nice person. But like, I don't I feel like

01:47:54.289 --> 01:47:58.550
we're kind of like in 2026, like not even only

01:47:58.550 --> 01:48:01.890
in the doublers, like we have access to so much

01:48:01.890 --> 01:48:06.130
content that we don't need like a filter of like

01:48:06.140 --> 01:48:10.079
the people like Carl and Shuley or Melton analyzing

01:48:10.079 --> 01:48:12.779
things and we can get the raw feed of these people

01:48:12.779 --> 01:48:14.720
ourselves because we're all smart enough to like

01:48:14.720 --> 01:48:16.539
have our own opinions and one of the things I

01:48:16.539 --> 01:48:18.800
learned that made me kind of just turn against

01:48:18.800 --> 01:48:21.439
Carl and Shuley and all that was like the moment

01:48:21.439 --> 01:48:23.420
I realized that they weren't even like that they

01:48:23.420 --> 01:48:26.520
were selectively editing things and misrepresenting

01:48:26.520 --> 01:48:28.859
them and it's like I don't want your propaganda

01:48:28.859 --> 01:48:32.279
like you fucking cocksuckers like like I don't

01:48:32.279 --> 01:48:35.079
want to see things through Carl's lens or Melton's

01:48:35.079 --> 01:48:38.000
lens or whoever and and it's better to just be

01:48:38.000 --> 01:48:41.020
like a free spirit in it and just like Sometimes

01:48:41.020 --> 01:48:43.119
you're like like me and karmic were going at

01:48:43.119 --> 01:48:46.420
it and then but now like he just went at tuki

01:48:46.420 --> 01:48:48.819
and he was absolutely entertaining to me and

01:48:48.819 --> 01:48:51.380
it's like the beauty of that is like I don't

01:48:51.380 --> 01:48:54.100
because I don't have any loyalty or or Right

01:48:54.100 --> 01:48:55.819
filter a filter. It's just like I'm watching

01:48:55.819 --> 01:48:57.279
karmic right now and he's being entertaining

01:48:57.279 --> 01:48:59.960
right now I'll watch when he's like being a douchebag.

01:49:00.039 --> 01:49:01.920
Oh my comics being a douchebag What's your opinion?

01:49:02.039 --> 01:49:04.359
I don't need carl in his fucking hairspray to

01:49:04.359 --> 01:49:06.560
like tell me what's going on What's your true

01:49:06.560 --> 01:49:08.739
opinion on karmic though? Is he all entertainment

01:49:08.739 --> 01:49:11.920
or is he really broken? He's absolutely broken

01:49:11.920 --> 01:49:16.640
and it's entertaining. That's a little bit for

01:49:16.640 --> 01:49:18.239
show though. He is definitely like a theater

01:49:18.239 --> 01:49:22.260
kid. I'll tell you what Timing his timing is

01:49:22.260 --> 01:49:24.760
and he knows how to reel that money in he's one

01:49:24.760 --> 01:49:27.329
of the top earners since day one He knows how

01:49:27.329 --> 01:49:31.090
to read the fans. He's entertaining. We all like

01:49:31.090 --> 01:49:34.090
to see if we do it. People might not admit it,

01:49:34.090 --> 01:49:36.109
but we all like to. Unfortunately, we all like

01:49:36.109 --> 01:49:39.609
to see everybody. Somebody like fail a little

01:49:39.609 --> 01:49:42.729
have troubles. And I think and I think that's

01:49:42.729 --> 01:49:45.670
like the conundrum that like Tuki, I think a

01:49:45.670 --> 01:49:47.470
lot of Tuki's shit is really because John's whipping

01:49:47.470 --> 01:49:49.789
his ass right now. And like people are calling

01:49:49.789 --> 01:49:52.489
Tuki out for not being funny and being off his

01:49:52.489 --> 01:49:54.710
game. But I think that's kind of the conundrum.

01:49:54.859 --> 01:49:56.920
that he has right now is that like there's no

01:49:56.920 --> 01:49:59.500
need for these filters and it's like karmic is

01:49:59.500 --> 01:50:02.880
like yeah whatever but like karmic can just turn

01:50:02.880 --> 01:50:05.939
a microphone on and i'm sorry but like at the

01:50:05.939 --> 01:50:07.979
end of the day like if i just if i like this

01:50:07.979 --> 01:50:09.979
happened this morning i was like i just need

01:50:09.979 --> 01:50:12.000
like someone that's just gonna fucking deliver

01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:15.119
something and i had and he was streaming i was

01:50:15.119 --> 01:50:17.439
like i'm gonna put him on and he just fucking

01:50:17.439 --> 01:50:21.140
turns his show on and just goes at tuky for like

01:50:21.140 --> 01:50:24.020
an hour and it's just funny and like you know

01:50:24.020 --> 01:50:26.810
i'm saying goes into a little theory that I have,

01:50:27.390 --> 01:50:28.989
and I was going to kind of rant on it tonight,

01:50:29.090 --> 01:50:30.430
but then I had you guys, so I was like, I don't

01:50:30.430 --> 01:50:32.649
need to make it about me. I'd rather talk to

01:50:32.649 --> 01:50:34.649
you guys. Well, I hope I didn't make it about

01:50:34.649 --> 01:50:38.109
me too much. A flipping of the roles here a little

01:50:38.109 --> 01:50:40.189
bit. Things are kind of getting flipped on their

01:50:40.189 --> 01:50:44.229
head a little bit, where back in 2025 and before,

01:50:44.810 --> 01:50:47.010
there was this whole sort of little hierarchy

01:50:47.010 --> 01:50:49.829
and sort of thing of this pecking order that's

01:50:49.829 --> 01:50:52.229
kind of been established. They're sort of like

01:50:52.229 --> 01:50:54.770
the, it's almost like the surf class and the

01:50:54.770 --> 01:50:57.890
kind of the whatever class and the, the people

01:50:57.890 --> 01:51:00.449
kind of in that, that higher class. And I know

01:51:00.449 --> 01:51:02.689
this sounds really pretentious, but follow me

01:51:02.689 --> 01:51:06.310
on that. They're all, they've kind of cross -pollinated

01:51:06.310 --> 01:51:07.930
with each other. They all do business. They're

01:51:07.930 --> 01:51:10.970
all like kind of interdependent together, like

01:51:10.970 --> 01:51:13.489
even like Carl, like when I was on a show and

01:51:13.489 --> 01:51:15.510
I was asking questions and he's defending Shulie

01:51:15.510 --> 01:51:18.170
and you could tell like it's It's almost a lot

01:51:18.170 --> 01:51:20.390
of ways, you know. Yeah. So like, but he's, but

01:51:20.390 --> 01:51:22.069
I said, well, what advice would you give Shuli?

01:51:22.210 --> 01:51:24.090
Like Shuli doesn't seem like he's doing all that

01:51:24.090 --> 01:51:26.069
well and whoa, you know, and he made all these

01:51:26.069 --> 01:51:28.470
excuses for why Shuli is doing well. And I said,

01:51:28.710 --> 01:51:31.489
that's okay. Fine. But so these guys are all

01:51:31.489 --> 01:51:33.310
have kind of controlled this and they, they do

01:51:33.310 --> 01:51:35.829
it a certain way that they want to do it. Um,

01:51:35.829 --> 01:51:38.430
they've gotten some more than others have gotten

01:51:38.430 --> 01:51:42.039
lazy and less kind of Structured about what they

01:51:42.039 --> 01:51:43.880
want to do and if just because it's the super

01:51:43.880 --> 01:51:46.420
chat machine starts We're in and the super tips

01:51:46.420 --> 01:51:49.560
and it's it's it's less about ruins and creative

01:51:49.560 --> 01:51:52.000
and more about just getting the machine going

01:51:52.000 --> 01:51:56.260
and just like Letting it buzz and then now what's

01:51:56.260 --> 01:51:59.359
happened is they had this whole sort of structure

01:51:59.359 --> 01:52:01.460
built that they had their little things that

01:52:01.460 --> 01:52:03.760
they would do and it's like click hit the button

01:52:03.760 --> 01:52:06.880
and then you get the money now they don't they

01:52:06.880 --> 01:52:08.920
can't hit that button anymore because now it's

01:52:08.920 --> 01:52:11.789
it's These other people are kind of taking a

01:52:11.789 --> 01:52:14.090
little piece of the pie, but then also they're

01:52:14.090 --> 01:52:17.569
creating content that's more compelling. So they're

01:52:17.569 --> 01:52:18.970
getting a little bit of the money. They're getting

01:52:18.970 --> 01:52:21.170
a little bit of the tension. And someone like

01:52:21.170 --> 01:52:23.529
Tuki, and this is, I think what turned Tuki or

01:52:23.529 --> 01:52:26.470
made Tuki blow up is he begrudgingly now has

01:52:26.470 --> 01:52:30.250
to follow the Scarlet Hampton, the karmic storylines,

01:52:30.310 --> 01:52:32.289
but he doesn't want to do that. But in order

01:52:32.289 --> 01:52:35.199
for him to get money, he has to chase what his

01:52:35.199 --> 01:52:37.840
audience wants. So he's being, he's being led

01:52:37.840 --> 01:52:39.779
to these little places that he doesn't really

01:52:39.779 --> 01:52:41.960
feel comfortable or want to go into. He wants

01:52:41.960 --> 01:52:44.520
to just put on the stuttering John clip, the

01:52:44.520 --> 01:52:47.100
steel toe clip or the this clip, rinse, repeat,

01:52:47.260 --> 01:52:49.819
get my super chats, you know, talk to talk to

01:52:49.819 --> 01:52:52.739
potato and I'm out and I got my cut 500 bucks

01:52:52.739 --> 01:52:54.699
for the day or whatever. But now he's got to

01:52:54.699 --> 01:52:56.739
like do things that he's not as comfortable with

01:52:56.739 --> 01:52:58.939
and it's it's making him a little have a little

01:52:58.939 --> 01:53:01.340
bit of consternation If I can piggyback on that,

01:53:01.340 --> 01:53:04.460
I think it's like there's that to it but I think

01:53:04.460 --> 01:53:07.800
part of it is also that like he is stale and

01:53:07.800 --> 01:53:10.899
it doesn't have any ideas and he's not like he

01:53:10.899 --> 01:53:13.539
doesn't have a creative angle and because everyone

01:53:13.539 --> 01:53:16.199
isn't like there's an there's an argument that

01:53:16.199 --> 01:53:19.000
John is beating them right now because John is

01:53:19.000 --> 01:53:21.359
just putting on a show and he's not and anyway

01:53:21.359 --> 01:53:24.439
beaten down by their abuse. And so Tukey has

01:53:24.439 --> 01:53:26.720
to wake up and think about what do I want to

01:53:26.720 --> 01:53:28.500
do and like what would be funny and it's just

01:53:28.500 --> 01:53:30.600
like oh do I just have to like say John's gay

01:53:30.600 --> 01:53:32.279
because there's a roommate or something like

01:53:32.279 --> 01:53:34.460
that and then he looks at Scarlett and then all

01:53:34.460 --> 01:53:37.100
that and it's just like yeah but that's I think

01:53:37.100 --> 01:53:39.720
a lot of it is just him being washed up and kind

01:53:39.720 --> 01:53:43.239
of have out of ideas. I think so, too. I think

01:53:43.239 --> 01:53:47.060
he's at a block, a roadblock, and he wants to

01:53:47.060 --> 01:53:49.239
do something different. He doesn't want to. This

01:53:49.239 --> 01:53:52.859
is what I'm just assuming. He's burnt out and

01:53:52.859 --> 01:53:55.079
we all get burnt out doing the same thing over

01:53:55.079 --> 01:53:58.260
and over. You need a break. That's why I take

01:53:58.260 --> 01:53:59.760
a break. And we talked about that at the beginning

01:53:59.760 --> 01:54:02.100
of the show. Me, Joey, Deb, we all took a break

01:54:02.100 --> 01:54:04.140
and we came back recharged. Nothing wrong with

01:54:04.140 --> 01:54:05.739
doing it. Nothing wrong with doing it. Can I

01:54:05.739 --> 01:54:07.960
say one thing before I forget because I keep

01:54:07.960 --> 01:54:10.579
forgetting? It's that there is this thing where

01:54:10.579 --> 01:54:13.149
like so much of this dabble verse in the beginning

01:54:13.149 --> 01:54:16.609
was just this audience of like fucking incel

01:54:16.609 --> 01:54:19.310
guys that hate women and that just like want

01:54:19.310 --> 01:54:21.109
to like poke fun at somebody that they think

01:54:21.109 --> 01:54:22.829
is out of their primer or whatever because they're

01:54:22.829 --> 01:54:25.409
miserable and like this is just catharsis for

01:54:25.409 --> 01:54:28.289
them to just like and make them feel better about

01:54:28.289 --> 01:54:30.729
their miserable lives and like Tuki hinted at

01:54:30.729 --> 01:54:32.829
that when he was making that statement, but it's

01:54:32.829 --> 01:54:34.970
like, no, this was based around hate, and he

01:54:34.970 --> 01:54:37.069
kind of softened that later when he was talking

01:54:37.069 --> 01:54:39.489
about it more, but now there's a much more diverse

01:54:39.489 --> 01:54:41.210
audience. There's people that just want good

01:54:41.210 --> 01:54:43.729
entertainment, and a lot of them want it to be

01:54:43.729 --> 01:54:46.170
real. A lot of them are Stern fans, and Tukey

01:54:46.170 --> 01:54:49.630
supposedly wasn't, but yeah, it's just like,

01:54:49.630 --> 01:54:53.890
no, we want good original content at a certain

01:54:53.890 --> 01:54:57.430
point, and the audience isn't just a bunch of

01:54:57.430 --> 01:55:02.340
fat incels anymore. Ava, they're not all fat

01:55:02.340 --> 01:55:05.699
incels. That's like, I'm gonna disagree here.

01:55:07.000 --> 01:55:11.180
Okay, incels. They're not all fat. No, there's

01:55:11.180 --> 01:55:13.560
a bunch. Don't worry. There are some. But I'm

01:55:13.560 --> 01:55:16.180
saying, you know, I don't want to generalize

01:55:16.180 --> 01:55:19.600
myself. I don't want to generalize. Why be diplomatic

01:55:19.600 --> 01:55:22.300
like that? Just be reckless like they are. No

01:55:22.300 --> 01:55:24.130
one's going to give you credit for... making

01:55:24.130 --> 01:55:26.289
that no no no and i'm not trying to i'm not trying

01:55:26.289 --> 01:55:29.149
to fence ride i'm just saying we hear that that

01:55:29.149 --> 01:55:33.670
like all the time with internet groups okay i'll

01:55:33.670 --> 01:55:36.670
correct it i'll correct it instead of instead

01:55:36.670 --> 01:55:39.699
of instead of insoles people that just are team

01:55:39.699 --> 01:55:42.039
players that just want it to be this thing that

01:55:42.039 --> 01:55:44.420
they can come home and that's a better analogy

01:55:44.420 --> 01:55:46.460
yeah thank you i'm sorry yeah that's what i was

01:55:46.460 --> 01:55:48.119
gonna say but i keep forgetting i'm sorry i'm

01:55:48.119 --> 01:55:49.819
glad thank you thank you for calling me thank

01:55:49.819 --> 01:55:52.739
you no thank you for calling me you're smarter

01:55:52.739 --> 01:55:55.479
than me dev thank you no i'm not no i'm not you

01:55:55.479 --> 01:55:57.720
kept said tribal is like it was a little way

01:55:57.720 --> 01:55:59.819
that's what yeah that's what i was tribal and

01:55:59.819 --> 01:56:02.380
don'ts to say like if you look at like a tuki

01:56:02.380 --> 01:56:05.500
clip and all the tuki fans under every it's 100

01:56:05.500 --> 01:56:08.649
positive No matter what they're never gonna say

01:56:08.649 --> 01:56:10.710
a negative thing about him. That's fine. He's

01:56:10.710 --> 01:56:13.350
a good guy. But but like like you were talking

01:56:13.350 --> 01:56:18.210
about Well, it this week he's kind of the evidence

01:56:18.210 --> 01:56:20.390
to live I think the the mask slipped a little

01:56:20.390 --> 01:56:23.569
bit pun intended. I like this new tuki I like

01:56:23.569 --> 01:56:26.170
heel tuki speak my mind should be you should

01:56:26.170 --> 01:56:27.770
you should lean into being a little bit real

01:56:27.770 --> 01:56:29.949
because he's Here's the problem puppet. He's

01:56:29.949 --> 01:56:35.250
a bad puppet. Don't get near him Let's use his

01:56:35.250 --> 01:56:37.670
god -given name, Rocco. Here's Rocco's problem.

01:56:37.989 --> 01:56:41.670
He's tried so hard to be nice to everyone. He

01:56:41.670 --> 01:56:44.350
really wants to be liked. But he is a good -natured

01:56:44.350 --> 01:56:47.890
spirit guy. He can't help it. No, he's not. No,

01:56:48.770 --> 01:56:54.029
he's a miserable, hateful person. He can be.

01:56:54.789 --> 01:56:57.390
I'm agreeing with you, but he has a side to him.

01:56:57.390 --> 01:57:00.359
He knows how to be that soft, nice guy. with

01:57:00.359 --> 01:57:03.560
a touch of arrogance that's an act that's an

01:57:03.560 --> 01:57:05.539
act and like what we're seeing i'm sorry to interrupt

01:57:05.539 --> 01:57:07.720
you i just have to get something for for like

01:57:07.720 --> 01:57:10.319
um and just tell me to shut up but like no that

01:57:10.319 --> 01:57:13.479
that's an act and i fell for it but like he's

01:57:13.479 --> 01:57:15.079
like he this is what he was saying he's like

01:57:15.079 --> 01:57:17.640
no this is built around hate he finds people

01:57:17.640 --> 01:57:19.880
that's like a miserable fucking person that wants

01:57:19.880 --> 01:57:21.939
to just right there bask in the misery of other

01:57:21.939 --> 01:57:24.899
people he's not a light person he it's like you

01:57:24.899 --> 01:57:27.539
know the act is like this lovable thing but like

01:57:27.539 --> 01:57:30.050
the baseline of his like cool, you know, it's

01:57:30.050 --> 01:57:32.630
like, of course, psychologically, it's miserable,

01:57:33.029 --> 01:57:36.909
resentment, like, resentment, and failure and

01:57:36.909 --> 01:57:39.130
like hate women, blah, blah, blah. Well, for

01:57:39.130 --> 01:57:41.609
me, in general, like, you know, you said this

01:57:41.609 --> 01:57:44.520
thing is built on hate. For me, it's built on

01:57:44.520 --> 01:57:48.560
comedy. He said that. I didn't know. It used

01:57:48.560 --> 01:57:50.340
to be I think it used to be at one time in the

01:57:50.340 --> 01:57:53.479
beginning. That's what he said. Like, I believe

01:57:53.479 --> 01:57:56.520
you I only caught part of it. It was being shown

01:57:56.520 --> 01:57:59.060
on another show. And I caught part of it and

01:57:59.060 --> 01:58:00.739
actually happened to catch the part where he

01:58:00.739 --> 01:58:03.760
was going after you a lot of the whole time.

01:58:03.930 --> 01:58:06.270
That wasn't really I just caught one part of

01:58:06.270 --> 01:58:09.510
it then, man. I was provoking him. Like, yeah,

01:58:09.869 --> 01:58:12.329
he didn't decide to go after me. I just here's

01:58:12.329 --> 01:58:14.289
the thing. I was punching him when he was like

01:58:14.289 --> 01:58:16.829
that. I saw this with Carl and I've seen it with

01:58:16.829 --> 01:58:20.069
Tukey and in Cardiff a little bit less because

01:58:20.069 --> 01:58:22.010
Cardiff, I think, is a little more thicker skinned

01:58:22.010 --> 01:58:25.130
than they are. Yes, they're both very sensitive.

01:58:25.340 --> 01:58:28.220
They are very thin skinned about criticism and

01:58:28.220 --> 01:58:30.380
they've cultivated this audience that kind of

01:58:30.380 --> 01:58:32.460
just is going to go lockstep with what they do

01:58:32.460 --> 01:58:35.180
and kind of be on, you know, team Carl, team

01:58:35.180 --> 01:58:37.739
Chucky. And it's like the get along gang and,

01:58:37.979 --> 01:58:40.020
and it's, it's like a community and we're on

01:58:40.020 --> 01:58:43.380
the same team. It's very tribal. And like anyone

01:58:43.380 --> 01:58:46.159
that sort of like says, well, you know, that

01:58:46.159 --> 01:58:48.739
God bit was kind of hacked. That was sort of

01:58:48.739 --> 01:58:50.880
been done before and you didn't really do anything

01:58:50.880 --> 01:58:53.020
great with it. And maybe you want to retire that

01:58:53.020 --> 01:58:56.560
or. You say, Carl, your formula, like it's a

01:58:56.560 --> 01:58:59.760
little too formulaic. You feel very kind of rigid

01:58:59.760 --> 01:59:02.399
sometimes with how you do things. But you say

01:59:02.399 --> 01:59:05.159
that and it's like, oh my God, you know, like

01:59:05.159 --> 01:59:08.119
how dare this Dan. And then and then what they

01:59:08.119 --> 01:59:10.239
do is then they start talking about you personally,

01:59:10.319 --> 01:59:12.619
like they say about you being trans. They'll

01:59:12.619 --> 01:59:14.079
talk about me. Oh, Dan, you don't have a big

01:59:14.079 --> 01:59:16.060
audience. Why do they want to take advice from

01:59:16.060 --> 01:59:18.100
you? I'm just an observer. I'm just I'm someone

01:59:18.100 --> 01:59:20.819
that might watch your show. So I'm busting balls

01:59:20.819 --> 01:59:22.960
just like he is. He doesn't fucking know that

01:59:22.960 --> 01:59:25.659
right? He was just like don't you see that we're

01:59:25.659 --> 01:59:27.640
just fucking making fun of people He was responding

01:59:27.640 --> 01:59:29.819
like one of my super chats where I was just doing

01:59:29.819 --> 01:59:33.439
Like he caters his like critiques about John

01:59:33.439 --> 01:59:35.880
to what will make John get really mad So like

01:59:35.880 --> 01:59:37.399
they know how to like push his pressure points

01:59:37.399 --> 01:59:39.399
and that's what I did in all those super chats

01:59:39.399 --> 01:59:41.899
is like boom boom boom and it wasn't like being

01:59:42.010 --> 01:59:43.989
It was just me laughing and being like, I can't

01:59:43.989 --> 01:59:45.970
wait to watch him fucking deal with this. And

01:59:45.970 --> 01:59:48.270
then, like, he's so delusional and he was just

01:59:48.270 --> 01:59:50.010
like, don't you see that word? This is all about

01:59:50.010 --> 01:59:51.670
busting balls and you're just mad because we're

01:59:51.670 --> 01:59:53.750
making fun of you. And it's like, I was never

01:59:53.750 --> 01:59:56.310
mad that you made fun of me, you fucking bozo.

01:59:56.609 --> 01:59:58.489
But you're mad right now because I'm making fun

01:59:58.489 --> 02:00:00.069
of you in a way and it's hurting your feelings.

02:00:00.170 --> 02:00:02.689
And that's what's going on. And it's just so

02:00:02.689 --> 02:00:04.750
funny to me that, like, they've gotten away with

02:00:04.750 --> 02:00:07.140
this this long without anybody just... Poking

02:00:07.140 --> 02:00:09.100
at him like the way you too. I feel like me and

02:00:09.100 --> 02:00:13.119
you This is another thing that like shocks me

02:00:13.119 --> 02:00:16.000
because for me I just think of things very differently

02:00:16.000 --> 02:00:18.220
than everybody like I just I think I Maybe bring

02:00:18.220 --> 02:00:20.600
an outside perspective because i'm not as like

02:00:20.600 --> 02:00:24.000
so So in this world that it's like I I can't

02:00:24.000 --> 02:00:25.800
see the force your team nobody your team dan

02:00:25.800 --> 02:00:28.760
and you fucking call balls and strikes Yeah calling

02:00:28.760 --> 02:00:30.359
the bullshit out and calling balls and strikes.

02:00:30.739 --> 02:00:34.340
He's a a 40 something year old man doing a puppet

02:00:34.340 --> 02:00:36.300
show and then half the time and then the other

02:00:36.300 --> 02:00:38.199
half of the time he's doing wearing a wrestling

02:00:38.199 --> 02:00:40.939
mask. He's a 60 year old kid. I think he's 60

02:00:40.939 --> 02:00:43.880
years old. So like and I'm not saying that that's

02:00:43.880 --> 02:00:46.260
there's anything wrong with that. And it's entertaining

02:00:46.260 --> 02:00:48.279
to some obviously as a big audience and people

02:00:48.279 --> 02:00:51.060
like it. But at the end of the day, you're still

02:00:51.060 --> 02:00:53.100
a guy doing a puppet show. Right. Right. And

02:00:53.100 --> 02:00:55.960
if you a father, a father, and if you can't handle

02:00:55.960 --> 02:00:58.760
me laughing at you because and I because because

02:00:58.760 --> 02:01:00.520
I'm at the point now where like if you follow

02:01:00.520 --> 02:01:02.439
my Twitter, I've been I've been saying a lot

02:01:02.439 --> 02:01:04.590
of stuff like He's a dude doing a puppet show.

02:01:04.789 --> 02:01:07.329
You're a puppet guy. So like, if you can't, if

02:01:07.329 --> 02:01:08.850
you don't have a thick enough skin to be able

02:01:08.850 --> 02:01:10.949
to understand that, like to be able to understand

02:01:10.949 --> 02:01:13.829
what you are, you are a guy doing a puppet show

02:01:13.829 --> 02:01:16.630
to basically our tarts, like people that are

02:01:16.630 --> 02:01:18.630
very, like he does got a messed up audience.

02:01:18.789 --> 02:01:21.689
I got to give him that. Give you that. The audience

02:01:21.689 --> 02:01:25.130
is not very highbrow. So in this week, he started,

02:01:25.390 --> 02:01:28.449
he, it kind of came out where he's sort of kind

02:01:28.449 --> 02:01:31.069
of like, I don't know if he hates his audience

02:01:31.069 --> 02:01:34.260
or he's a little bit I talked to Rocco a lot.

02:01:34.539 --> 02:01:37.439
He's burnt. He's a strained bird. He don't got

02:01:37.439 --> 02:01:39.979
nowhere out material no more. He told me this

02:01:39.979 --> 02:01:41.840
a year ago. I'm going to run out of material

02:01:41.840 --> 02:01:43.720
with Tukey and I'm not going to know what to

02:01:43.720 --> 02:01:45.039
do. He says it's going to come and it's going

02:01:45.039 --> 02:01:48.180
to come not that far out. He knows that. That's

02:01:48.180 --> 02:01:50.819
why he's all over the place. He's out of material.

02:01:51.180 --> 02:01:53.140
Why not ditch it then? He should get rid of the

02:01:53.140 --> 02:01:55.560
public tomorrow. He should burn that puppet.

02:01:55.739 --> 02:01:58.060
Do it. Take a couple weeks off and come back

02:01:58.060 --> 02:02:00.890
with just be Rocco. But I think, I think that

02:02:00.890 --> 02:02:03.550
what keeps him there is when he's ready to go

02:02:03.550 --> 02:02:06.409
is John keeps him in the game. Cause the bottom

02:02:06.409 --> 02:02:08.409
line is he's only, he only wants to talk about

02:02:08.409 --> 02:02:10.750
John. That's his main goal. If he could just

02:02:10.750 --> 02:02:13.409
do that, then he would stay on top of his game

02:02:13.409 --> 02:02:15.449
because that's what he's there for. That's what

02:02:15.449 --> 02:02:17.689
he came in for. Melton, let me tell you something.

02:02:17.869 --> 02:02:20.630
I battled Melton. He came, Melton is the most

02:02:20.630 --> 02:02:23.130
cruelest go right to the heart kind of cut throat

02:02:23.130 --> 02:02:25.449
guy, cut you in the juggler type of kind of guy.

02:02:25.550 --> 02:02:27.539
When he comes at you, he's the best at it. He

02:02:27.539 --> 02:02:29.479
knows how to get you and get you where you're

02:02:29.479 --> 02:02:31.579
gonna be fucking either want to kill him or you're

02:02:31.579 --> 02:02:34.840
gonna be crying He's good at that, but I agree

02:02:34.840 --> 02:02:37.960
time is done now because he's being repetitive

02:02:37.960 --> 02:02:40.079
and he's doing the same stuff over and over But

02:02:40.079 --> 02:02:43.520
he is good one as a guy by himself. He carries

02:02:43.520 --> 02:02:46.439
the show Well, but I agree why i'm always I used

02:02:46.439 --> 02:02:48.859
to tell baseball players Why would you if you're

02:02:48.859 --> 02:02:51.239
an all -star superstar possible hall of famer?

02:02:51.300 --> 02:02:53.399
Why would you stay in the game when you're 44

02:02:53.399 --> 02:02:55.180
years old and you won't got the tools no more

02:02:55.180 --> 02:02:58.289
and then and then take an invite to spring training

02:02:58.289 --> 02:03:00.109
and major league and go do a triple A for your

02:03:00.109 --> 02:03:02.229
last year. Why would you degrade yourself? Go

02:03:02.229 --> 02:03:04.329
out on top. You think Pete Rose would have went

02:03:04.329 --> 02:03:07.229
down the triple A when he hung up? There's no

02:03:07.229 --> 02:03:10.229
way. Go out with like, I think the Uncle Rico

02:03:10.229 --> 02:03:12.350
show when it was when they were making the money,

02:03:12.489 --> 02:03:14.149
they should have cut it at a certain time and

02:03:14.149 --> 02:03:15.909
that would have been it stopped it and went out.

02:03:15.949 --> 02:03:18.090
Remember, they did it to the show, which I think

02:03:18.090 --> 02:03:19.550
was one of the greatest shows they ever did.

02:03:19.869 --> 02:03:23.670
They ended that show and it's still missed. And

02:03:23.670 --> 02:03:25.670
that's what people need to do. It's a new breed

02:03:25.670 --> 02:03:27.819
now. The whole new people are in here. Is this

02:03:27.819 --> 02:03:31.140
something you want me to show? Yeah, you can

02:03:31.140 --> 02:03:33.199
trust me. No, it's like the first time I took

02:03:33.199 --> 02:03:35.239
a shot. It's the first time I took a shot. But

02:03:35.239 --> 02:03:37.319
I really do think it's fascinating to watch the

02:03:37.319 --> 02:03:39.119
way that he responds to this, because I feel

02:03:39.119 --> 02:03:40.899
like this was the beginning of him starting to

02:03:40.899 --> 02:03:43.600
get deflated. But yeah, this is how much of a

02:03:43.600 --> 02:03:46.800
paper tiger this guy is. And when was this? Like

02:03:46.800 --> 02:03:49.180
three weeks ago, three, four weeks ago. Wait,

02:03:49.180 --> 02:03:51.000
he's not even wearing the mask or anything. That's

02:03:51.000 --> 02:03:52.939
he's done a couple shows like that. No, he's

02:03:52.939 --> 02:03:54.800
not wearing the mask It's him just for his face,

02:03:54.800 --> 02:03:56.699
but this kind of ties into what y 'all are just

02:03:56.699 --> 02:04:02.220
okay Do people hear that? But rockle is a little

02:04:02.220 --> 02:04:03.899
kid at heart still he still got that little boy

02:04:03.899 --> 02:04:05.720
mentality in him And that's where it comes out

02:04:05.720 --> 02:04:07.100
all the characters and the puppets, you know,

02:04:07.140 --> 02:04:09.199
because he still wants to be a little boy, you

02:04:09.199 --> 02:04:11.659
know but this guy's going at john about his parenting

02:04:11.659 --> 02:04:14.300
about like people that are over the age of 18

02:04:14.300 --> 02:04:16.479
and have like Right. Succeeded in life. And that's

02:04:16.479 --> 02:04:18.359
kind of how I was trying to tap it. I don't agree

02:04:18.359 --> 02:04:20.220
with them doing it. You know, I don't agree with

02:04:20.220 --> 02:04:22.520
that. I really don't. I don't agree with John

02:04:22.520 --> 02:04:25.880
striking channels. And I also my my attitude

02:04:25.880 --> 02:04:29.119
is John's battles aren't mine to fight. Like

02:04:29.119 --> 02:04:32.359
I don't fight other people's battles. I'll help

02:04:32.359 --> 02:04:35.300
John fight this battle. But there's times where

02:04:35.300 --> 02:04:37.619
John has a battle he wants to fight and I attack

02:04:37.619 --> 02:04:40.800
him like his quad one. i'll fight this battle

02:04:40.800 --> 02:04:43.460
with him because he's such hypocrites has he

02:04:43.460 --> 02:04:45.619
let quad back on on his show since all that happened

02:04:45.619 --> 02:04:48.920
yeah yeah he was like he was like defending like

02:04:48.920 --> 02:04:51.260
his making fun of quad for being paraplegic i

02:04:51.260 --> 02:04:53.479
was like shit i was like john just it's not the

02:04:53.479 --> 02:04:56.340
same thing as like But like for me, I behind

02:04:56.340 --> 02:05:00.140
the scenes made up with people that I trash talk

02:05:00.140 --> 02:05:02.260
and I thought about it and I said those people

02:05:02.260 --> 02:05:05.439
never said anything bad about me. How did you

02:05:05.439 --> 02:05:06.680
feel when you did that? When you come to that

02:05:06.680 --> 02:05:09.840
decision to do that? When you analyze what you

02:05:09.840 --> 02:05:11.779
did and how hard you went at somebody and then

02:05:11.779 --> 02:05:13.880
because I've done that, I've said I went after

02:05:13.880 --> 02:05:15.500
the wrong person. I was too hard on that person.

02:05:15.619 --> 02:05:18.079
I didn't deserve that. I felt compelled to apologize.

02:05:18.199 --> 02:05:21.960
I did. I apologize privately and everything's

02:05:21.960 --> 02:05:25.640
good and it's and I feel great. Yeah, good. I'm

02:05:25.640 --> 02:05:28.180
not I'm not here to fight people. I'm here to

02:05:28.180 --> 02:05:30.600
laugh. I'm here to talk to interesting people

02:05:30.600 --> 02:05:32.819
like you guys. Thank you very much. Honestly,

02:05:33.039 --> 02:05:36.319
if the show sucks, I don't watch it. And I'm

02:05:36.319 --> 02:05:39.960
cutting out a lot of for 2026. Yeah, I'm cutting

02:05:39.960 --> 02:05:44.359
out a lot of shows and reading my own time. You're

02:05:44.359 --> 02:05:46.359
a hell of a you do a great show. I want to tell

02:05:46.359 --> 02:05:47.640
you I mean, if at the bottom of both you guys

02:05:47.640 --> 02:05:50.060
do a fantastic show. Yeah, I love you. Thank

02:05:50.060 --> 02:05:52.380
you. You know, and I don't want you guys to think

02:05:52.380 --> 02:05:54.520
Oh, look, she's such a fence rider because she

02:05:54.520 --> 02:05:57.029
said is mountains this or mountain set. I watch

02:05:57.029 --> 02:05:59.590
these shows sometimes a whole show. Sometimes

02:05:59.590 --> 02:06:01.930
I don't watch any of it. I don't trust them going

02:06:01.930 --> 02:06:03.390
biz to go into business. I'm not going to go

02:06:03.390 --> 02:06:04.930
in business with them. To be honest with you,

02:06:04.930 --> 02:06:07.829
I see too many people arguing over super tips.

02:06:07.829 --> 02:06:09.750
And I considered it and I bugged Dan I said,

02:06:10.149 --> 02:06:14.109
when we got we got struck to have a and we didn't

02:06:14.109 --> 02:06:16.430
have the monetization we had to start all the

02:06:16.430 --> 02:06:19.170
way from the bottom. with the hours and we took

02:06:19.170 --> 02:06:23.149
us six months or more. We're like three months

02:06:23.149 --> 02:06:26.609
and then we got we got we got we got struck.

02:06:26.750 --> 02:06:28.810
And I'm trying to remember my point now with

02:06:28.810 --> 02:06:31.590
this, but I love what you struck for. We don't

02:06:31.590 --> 02:06:35.770
know. We don't even know. I suspect a couple

02:06:35.770 --> 02:06:38.930
one or one or more people that might have dated

02:06:38.930 --> 02:06:41.050
Karmic at some point. Well, I'm not going to

02:06:41.050 --> 02:06:42.989
I'm not going to accuse. But what I was trying

02:06:42.989 --> 02:06:45.880
to say is I just. I don't waste my time with

02:06:45.880 --> 02:06:48.699
things that don't entertain me. Have I have I

02:06:48.699 --> 02:06:50.899
gotten sucked into this? Yes. It's like a soap

02:06:50.899 --> 02:06:53.100
opera. It's like pro wrestling and it's like

02:06:53.100 --> 02:06:57.239
reality TV. Right. So half of it's fake. Honestly,

02:06:57.239 --> 02:06:59.699
I think, you know, some of it's from the heart.

02:06:59.880 --> 02:07:02.920
But you have some of it's mean and some of it's

02:07:02.920 --> 02:07:05.939
kind. You know, I think you all you all of you

02:07:05.939 --> 02:07:08.000
all have the credibility. Like when you said

02:07:08.000 --> 02:07:10.100
what you're saying about Milton at no point did

02:07:10.100 --> 02:07:14.260
I think Debbie's. ball -washing Melton, I just

02:07:14.260 --> 02:07:16.720
thought, oh, this is how Deb feels about Melton.

02:07:17.319 --> 02:07:19.479
Like, you earned that credibility with at least

02:07:19.479 --> 02:07:21.539
people like me that watch him, Jack. Aw, thank

02:07:21.539 --> 02:07:24.300
you. I mean, listen, I did look... Oh, I know

02:07:24.300 --> 02:07:26.199
what I was going to say. I did bug Dan. I said,

02:07:26.239 --> 02:07:28.800
well, let's get the super tips. Let's ask for

02:07:28.800 --> 02:07:31.119
the super tips. And, you know, when he first

02:07:31.119 --> 02:07:32.939
came out with them and Dan didn't want to do

02:07:32.939 --> 02:07:35.260
it. Dan, I don't mean to cut you up. I'll tell

02:07:35.260 --> 02:07:37.319
you this. He doesn't bother you. Now he made

02:07:37.319 --> 02:07:38.539
it where you even have to deal with him. You

02:07:38.539 --> 02:07:40.760
sign up for it. You add an inter question. They

02:07:40.760 --> 02:07:43.159
don't they don't they don't get involved. I never

02:07:43.159 --> 02:07:45.840
hear from him. He don't write you. They take

02:07:45.840 --> 02:07:47.539
their 10 percent off the top when it goes in

02:07:47.539 --> 02:07:49.239
there and he goes right to your bed. I mean,

02:07:49.659 --> 02:07:51.300
I think you guys are good enough that you would

02:07:51.300 --> 02:07:53.060
make a lot of money with it. If you could put

02:07:53.060 --> 02:07:55.939
aside that how you feel, they don't really bother

02:07:55.939 --> 02:07:57.460
you at all. I promise you, you'll never hear

02:07:57.460 --> 02:08:00.010
from them. This is like a problem you all have

02:08:00.010 --> 02:08:02.989
for me. I just will never mix money with this

02:08:02.989 --> 02:08:06.369
world, because it will change everything. But

02:08:06.369 --> 02:08:07.909
that's why I don't do a show. I don't really

02:08:07.909 --> 02:08:09.649
want anybody to be my boss. I don't really want

02:08:09.649 --> 02:08:12.369
it. Exactly. I don't ever want to have to say

02:08:12.369 --> 02:08:15.409
anything. The one thing I don't like of Dan,

02:08:15.569 --> 02:08:17.939
Joey... Joe Biden. The one thing I don't like

02:08:17.939 --> 02:08:20.720
is that he can bust in and put his free chats

02:08:20.720 --> 02:08:23.079
up. He can't do that again. He can't do that.

02:08:23.079 --> 02:08:26.100
But I don't like that. Wait, what? Melton can

02:08:26.100 --> 02:08:27.560
just free chat. He can go in anybody's account

02:08:27.560 --> 02:08:30.220
at any time and post whatever he wants. Put his

02:08:30.220 --> 02:08:32.819
free chat up on your screen. And I don't like

02:08:32.819 --> 02:08:35.180
that. Yeah, I don't like that either. I didn't

02:08:35.180 --> 02:08:42.199
know that. You guys just pulled up the free chats.

02:08:42.300 --> 02:08:45.350
What's going on, man? Well, I would never what

02:08:45.350 --> 02:08:48.890
if I if I was in this and had monetization I

02:08:48.890 --> 02:08:51.569
wouldn't want someone like him to be in charge

02:08:51.569 --> 02:08:56.930
of my financial processing It's a stripe does

02:08:56.930 --> 02:08:59.170
it they send him to percentage stripe is not

02:08:59.170 --> 02:09:02.970
The most reputable company that's true. I mean,

02:09:02.970 --> 02:09:04.470
that's I agree with that. Yeah, I would never

02:09:04.470 --> 02:09:07.350
I don't trust him Yeah, I mean these people are

02:09:07.350 --> 02:09:09.869
like evil. I would never want him in charge of

02:09:09.869 --> 02:09:13.550
my monetization, but but I don't even But I don't

02:09:13.550 --> 02:09:16.149
even know what it's like to think about it. You

02:09:16.149 --> 02:09:19.069
know what? It was it's not even really like just

02:09:19.069 --> 02:09:20.989
distrust or anything like that. It's like I don't

02:09:20.989 --> 02:09:23.609
want somebody to be able to manipulate my chat.

02:09:23.670 --> 02:09:27.050
I agree. I also did. I did think about it when

02:09:27.050 --> 02:09:30.130
he launched it for everybody. I looked at it

02:09:30.130 --> 02:09:33.029
and he did a tutorial and I watched it. Yes.

02:09:33.149 --> 02:09:36.619
Well, the newbies that get it. They don't get

02:09:36.619 --> 02:09:40.140
Kumiya's voice. They don't get Carl's voice.

02:09:40.279 --> 02:09:42.699
They don't get fish lunch. They don't get any

02:09:42.699 --> 02:09:45.399
of the cool voices. They get a bunch of these

02:09:45.399 --> 02:09:48.239
generic. You're right. Unless you're grandfathered

02:09:48.239 --> 02:09:50.579
in. Unless you were grandfathered. He's not the

02:09:50.579 --> 02:09:54.079
jv version of it. It's like it's like a second

02:09:54.079 --> 02:09:56.659
class. It's like a case system Yeah, so that

02:09:56.659 --> 02:09:59.979
the the og's got the good one and we get the

02:09:59.979 --> 02:10:02.060
other one and they're probably going to try for

02:10:02.060 --> 02:10:05.560
more absolutely Exactly. Yeah, but you're exactly

02:10:05.560 --> 02:10:07.279
your own though. They got to pick out an app

02:10:07.279 --> 02:10:08.720
in there You can make your own voices. They got

02:10:08.720 --> 02:10:10.420
it all set up in there. Well, the ones I want

02:10:10.420 --> 02:10:13.100
to make they already have so now That should

02:10:13.100 --> 02:10:15.239
be part of it. It's like if you want to solve

02:10:15.239 --> 02:10:18.819
the problem about youtube Super chats based on

02:10:18.819 --> 02:10:22.079
like censorship and just free speech just solve

02:10:22.079 --> 02:10:25.460
that problem just have like an Objective payment

02:10:25.460 --> 02:10:27.659
processor that you do through super tips and

02:10:27.659 --> 02:10:29.600
don't add any of the other stuff once you start

02:10:29.600 --> 02:10:31.899
doing that Then you're just acting like a corporation

02:10:31.899 --> 02:10:34.260
and it's like I do that That fat slob is like

02:10:34.260 --> 02:10:37.279
gonna have any leverage or you know, like he

02:10:37.279 --> 02:10:40.020
can chat in free. That's where it all I'm just

02:10:40.020 --> 02:10:42.760
gonna like I said, I'm gonna look at for my personal

02:10:42.760 --> 02:10:46.380
channel I'm going to thank you, Joe. I'm going

02:10:46.380 --> 02:10:50.079
to look at I'm going to look at PowerChat or

02:10:50.079 --> 02:10:54.220
maybe soft. I'd look at his platform. What do

02:10:54.220 --> 02:10:56.579
you think about Ukrainian super tips, President

02:10:56.579 --> 02:11:00.579
Biden? All right. No, very much the best, you

02:11:00.579 --> 02:11:03.619
know. Yeah, I know. Super tips. You ever get

02:11:03.619 --> 02:11:06.779
any of those, Joe? I don't know what super tips

02:11:06.779 --> 02:11:10.020
is, but it sounds great. It's Ava. It's Ava.

02:11:10.060 --> 02:11:12.060
That's the best response. That's a good one.

02:11:12.060 --> 02:11:16.859
That's a great response. But what I was going

02:11:16.859 --> 02:11:19.739
to say is that your voice will be heard at the

02:11:19.739 --> 02:11:25.039
ballot box, man. It should all be, yeah. Thanks,

02:11:25.100 --> 02:11:27.159
President Biden. No, I want to answer this question.

02:11:27.520 --> 02:11:31.119
That's what America's about, man. Dude, that's

02:11:31.119 --> 02:11:33.399
so, that's on point. Have any of you heard from

02:11:33.399 --> 02:11:36.140
Rob Saul lately? I haven't heard of Rob. I haven't.

02:11:36.140 --> 02:11:39.399
I'm in contact with him. He retired from the

02:11:39.399 --> 02:11:42.960
dabble verse. He did. Yes, it was toxic. He's

02:11:42.960 --> 02:11:45.140
working on. He's working at a dog pound now.

02:11:45.180 --> 02:11:48.619
No, he's another straight white man that acted

02:11:48.619 --> 02:11:50.659
like a little bitch and acted like everything

02:11:50.659 --> 02:11:54.029
people say trans people act like. that got fucking

02:11:54.029 --> 02:11:55.510
bummed out because they got their ass whooped

02:11:55.510 --> 02:11:57.550
and then they just scurried out of the internet

02:11:57.550 --> 02:11:59.869
like a bitch. But that said, I'm a huge fan.

02:12:00.029 --> 02:12:04.050
Hey there, young lady, stop, stop crashing the

02:12:04.050 --> 02:12:06.989
trannies, man. Joe, I got a question for you.

02:12:07.189 --> 02:12:09.229
Why did you put me in prison for making a false

02:12:09.229 --> 02:12:11.689
statement to a federal agent? I didn't do shit,

02:12:11.949 --> 02:12:14.409
man. The funniest thing that Joe Biden actually

02:12:14.409 --> 02:12:16.689
did say is that when he was running for president

02:12:16.689 --> 02:12:18.890
in 2020, somebody asked him how many genders

02:12:18.890 --> 02:12:21.189
there are. And then he just paused and he just

02:12:21.189 --> 02:12:27.329
said, At least three. At least twice, three and

02:12:27.329 --> 02:12:30.189
a half. And Joe, why haven't they ever elected

02:12:30.189 --> 02:12:32.130
an Italian for president in the history of the

02:12:32.130 --> 02:12:34.069
United States? Because y 'all don't circumcise.

02:12:34.229 --> 02:12:35.750
You know, what could the devil do? Why in the

02:12:35.750 --> 02:12:36.789
world should the Italians be in the president?

02:12:36.789 --> 02:12:39.630
Do you like Oli Callens? Do you have Ray DeVito?

02:12:41.670 --> 02:12:44.329
The position you had, Joe, they will never allow

02:12:44.329 --> 02:12:46.270
an Italian in. They've only let one Catholic

02:12:46.270 --> 02:12:47.729
in and that was Kennedy and he killed him for

02:12:47.729 --> 02:12:50.569
it. No, did you just call them for a different

02:12:50.569 --> 02:12:53.229
reason, man? I just want to know my mom. I have

02:12:53.229 --> 02:12:55.470
a verse two. He's he's now opening a Minnesota

02:12:55.470 --> 02:12:58.569
daycare. Very lucrative of a business. Yes. What

02:12:58.569 --> 02:12:59.909
do you guys think of that shooting in Minnesota

02:12:59.909 --> 02:13:04.489
yesterday? Man, disinformation. Yeah, I stood

02:13:04.489 --> 02:13:09.630
icing. Yes. I didn't see much about it. So you

02:13:09.630 --> 02:13:12.510
got to shoot your shot, man. Pretty pretty horrible.

02:13:12.689 --> 02:13:14.949
They showed it. Well, I saw it from another angle

02:13:14.949 --> 02:13:18.010
and it looked like she was dropping off her partner.

02:13:18.239 --> 02:13:20.199
Yeah, and she was trying to do, you know, to

02:13:20.199 --> 02:13:22.420
the get out of there. She was scared, I think.

02:13:22.500 --> 02:13:25.920
And then she was scared. That cop also apparently

02:13:25.920 --> 02:13:28.800
has had another incident where he got hit by

02:13:28.800 --> 02:13:31.859
a car. Yeah. You don't do much pay as a very

02:13:31.859 --> 02:13:34.399
negative thing. Very prejudiced. I'm going to

02:13:34.399 --> 02:13:37.779
say about Italians. I do. Thank you. I do. The

02:13:37.779 --> 02:13:39.920
grease runs off the side like that, too. All

02:13:39.920 --> 02:13:43.539
right, do. Yeah. Italians turn off pit for office,

02:13:43.560 --> 02:13:47.779
man. Why? You know. Joe, they're no worse than

02:13:47.779 --> 02:13:50.039
you guys using the CIA as your own personal head

02:13:50.039 --> 02:13:52.939
squad. Yeah, it's my personal head squad. I get

02:13:52.939 --> 02:13:55.380
to use it. I'll have CFIT. Exactly. So what's

02:13:55.380 --> 02:13:56.899
the difference between an Italian being mafia?

02:13:57.079 --> 02:13:59.340
What's the difference? You guys kill, presidents

02:13:59.340 --> 02:14:02.239
kill, they use it in the CIA. So go be in the

02:14:02.239 --> 02:14:04.380
mafia then. I don't want to be in the mafia.

02:14:04.399 --> 02:14:07.079
I want to be me. I just want to be me. You sound

02:14:07.079 --> 02:14:10.239
so gay when you say that. I do? I'm gay for Elvis

02:14:10.239 --> 02:14:11.659
Presley and it's his birthday today. You know

02:14:11.659 --> 02:14:14.180
that? Oh, yeah, that's right. Happy birthday,

02:14:14.399 --> 02:14:19.340
Elvis. He's somewhere in nine or something. I

02:14:19.340 --> 02:14:22.539
think today. Oh, wow. He was born in 19, 1935,

02:14:22.699 --> 02:14:26.659
wasn't he? Oh, wait, wait. You'd be 90 years

02:14:26.659 --> 02:14:30.300
old. We're talking about Italians. Yeah, I wish

02:14:30.300 --> 02:14:33.359
thinking of Mexicans. I'm sorry. We look the

02:14:33.359 --> 02:14:36.119
same. And we don't want that. Waps, grease balls,

02:14:36.260 --> 02:14:39.119
whatever. They're all the same. No, no, no. Italians

02:14:39.119 --> 02:14:41.979
are OK. I was just mixing it up in my head, man.

02:14:42.319 --> 02:14:43.640
You're all right, Joe. I like you. I actually

02:14:43.640 --> 02:14:46.600
like you. I like me, too. I know that. Hey, Joey,

02:14:46.640 --> 02:14:48.020
I got a question for you. If there's anybody

02:14:48.020 --> 02:14:49.979
in the dabble verse that you'd like to bury the

02:14:49.979 --> 02:14:52.199
hatchet with, you know, if you could squash it

02:14:52.199 --> 02:14:54.199
with somebody that you, uh, you know, maybe have

02:14:54.199 --> 02:14:56.619
fought with in the past. I think, I think I've

02:14:56.619 --> 02:14:58.340
made friends with everybody. All my fans I've

02:14:58.340 --> 02:15:01.840
made amends with. I have a base pill who maintained

02:15:01.840 --> 02:15:04.159
that I was lying about something for over a year.

02:15:04.180 --> 02:15:06.500
I maintained that he was the liar and, and then

02:15:06.500 --> 02:15:08.720
I got to know the kid and he did some work for

02:15:08.720 --> 02:15:11.279
me. I hired him as a con outside work to do some,

02:15:11.380 --> 02:15:13.579
uh, some, uh, videos for me, cutting up some

02:15:13.579 --> 02:15:16.609
videos and got the dome and. And on a live stream

02:15:16.609 --> 02:15:17.890
I said, you know, I got to know you and you seem

02:15:17.890 --> 02:15:19.729
like a pretty decent guy I got i'm gonna give

02:15:19.729 --> 02:15:22.069
you a very big gift tonight and I told him on

02:15:22.069 --> 02:15:24.510
my 24 hour stream You were right about the lie.

02:15:24.510 --> 02:15:26.989
I was lying in that video when I said it when

02:15:26.989 --> 02:15:30.289
I said that he went whoa Whoa, and I gave it

02:15:30.289 --> 02:15:32.130
to him because he deserved it But I maintained

02:15:32.130 --> 02:15:33.930
he was a piece of garbage for over a year and

02:15:33.930 --> 02:15:36.430
he was lying on me And once I got to know him

02:15:36.430 --> 02:15:38.789
again What she just talked about you you banter

02:15:38.789 --> 02:15:41.090
on somebody and then you you really think about

02:15:41.090 --> 02:15:43.460
that a day deserve that He deserved a lot of

02:15:43.460 --> 02:15:45.300
stuff because he went with the worst two trolls

02:15:45.300 --> 02:15:48.439
that try to destroy me. But he still was civil.

02:15:48.600 --> 02:15:50.739
He was still showed a human side of him. When

02:15:50.739 --> 02:15:53.020
they went too far, he backed off. There's two

02:15:53.020 --> 02:15:55.859
people that I can never forgive. And I don't

02:15:55.859 --> 02:15:57.399
know if you guys remember the Catalan network

02:15:57.399 --> 02:16:01.479
that came out. Yeah. And how I read it got me.

02:16:02.920 --> 02:16:05.500
Well, the tables turned when I found out who

02:16:05.500 --> 02:16:07.260
the guy that owned the channel's real name was

02:16:07.260 --> 02:16:09.319
and his address and phone number and all that

02:16:09.319 --> 02:16:12.340
stuff. So we immediately immediately contacted

02:16:12.340 --> 02:16:14.220
me and said, you know, you're not going to talk

02:16:14.220 --> 02:16:16.340
to me. I said, I have no reason to talk to you.

02:16:16.340 --> 02:16:18.899
As long as you know, I know I'm happy with that.

02:16:19.039 --> 02:16:21.140
You know, it gives me leverage now. Yeah. And

02:16:21.140 --> 02:16:23.020
so now let's talk privately. I want to know why.

02:16:23.420 --> 02:16:25.079
And he goes, I never hated you because I'm a

02:16:25.079 --> 02:16:26.960
big fan of yours. I go, it's pretty hard to believe

02:16:26.960 --> 02:16:28.739
you're a fan with the way you went after my wife

02:16:28.739 --> 02:16:30.479
and where there's just something if you're a

02:16:30.479 --> 02:16:33.000
fan, I don't mind you busting my ball. But you

02:16:33.000 --> 02:16:35.200
know, the devil has made my wife to be the king's

02:16:35.200 --> 02:16:37.920
prostitute ever. And my wife is the total opposite.

02:16:37.920 --> 02:16:40.389
You know, And they don't have my wife every day.

02:16:40.469 --> 02:16:41.989
Look, they just came up with the catalog of Christmas

02:16:41.989 --> 02:16:44.409
special things. The lizard. I laughed my ass

02:16:44.409 --> 02:16:46.370
off the whole thing. But they make my wife to

02:16:46.370 --> 02:16:49.629
be some wretched whore that she's not. But she

02:16:49.629 --> 02:16:53.049
I don't know why they use a sweetheart. And but

02:16:53.049 --> 02:16:55.069
she handles it well. And I didn't. But so those

02:16:55.069 --> 02:16:56.870
two but the two people that there was one troll

02:16:56.870 --> 02:16:59.870
that he called us up on my personal line and

02:16:59.870 --> 02:17:01.450
three, four o 'clock in the morning drunk and

02:17:01.450 --> 02:17:03.629
physically said things that he wanted to do to

02:17:03.629 --> 02:17:06.909
my granddaughter and left it on left it left

02:17:06.909 --> 02:17:10.870
it on. the voicemail and I'll say this I will

02:17:10.870 --> 02:17:12.309
never forgive him but I spared him from going

02:17:12.309 --> 02:17:14.450
to prison because he left those what he said

02:17:14.450 --> 02:17:16.549
he wanted to do to my grandchild I gave it to

02:17:16.549 --> 02:17:18.250
the police and he was going to get arrested and

02:17:18.250 --> 02:17:20.950
I stopped it at the last minute so and and he

02:17:20.950 --> 02:17:22.649
hasn't bothered me since now it's been about

02:17:22.649 --> 02:17:25.489
a long time now but he he was hired and Melton

02:17:25.489 --> 02:17:27.270
is the one that put him up to everything. So,

02:17:27.270 --> 02:17:29.270
you know, he worked for Melton and he was the

02:17:29.270 --> 02:17:30.870
worst. He was the worst. He's got a lot of those

02:17:30.870 --> 02:17:34.010
little cronies that do. But right now, there's

02:17:34.010 --> 02:17:35.450
there's really nobody I could say that I made

02:17:35.450 --> 02:17:38.370
a mentor to everybody. How about now, Chow wants

02:17:38.370 --> 02:17:40.950
to know how about Buckman? And I'm going to add

02:17:40.950 --> 02:17:43.889
Carmich. Now, I saw Carmich did a list, a naughty

02:17:43.889 --> 02:17:46.489
list, and you were number one on top of it. Well,

02:17:46.790 --> 02:17:49.229
you guys, did you guys know that Carmich straight

02:17:49.229 --> 02:17:52.209
lied and said he did nothing to me? I pumped

02:17:52.209 --> 02:17:54.760
him up. He forgets that Alex Stein and I are

02:17:54.760 --> 02:17:59.139
very good friends. Yeah. And I did not go. I

02:17:59.139 --> 02:18:01.100
did not go there. I sat there and I pumped him

02:18:01.100 --> 02:18:03.479
up. I introduced him. I said that to the world.

02:18:03.559 --> 02:18:05.760
He was the next best thing. And he let the fans

02:18:05.760 --> 02:18:07.860
bait him. And he shit on me really bad one day.

02:18:08.079 --> 02:18:09.719
And I couldn't believe it because I was talking

02:18:09.719 --> 02:18:11.680
with the guy every day. I was telling him I was

02:18:11.680 --> 02:18:14.219
going to get a solo with Alex Mersh called Alex

02:18:14.219 --> 02:18:16.159
and said, you know, man, all of a sudden, Christy

02:18:16.159 --> 02:18:18.819
Mayer and Keanu came on that day. He was bumping

02:18:18.819 --> 02:18:21.180
karmic that day because of the double booking

02:18:21.180 --> 02:18:23.620
and he they were in the studio so he figured

02:18:23.620 --> 02:18:26.100
he had to have them when the booking came on

02:18:26.100 --> 02:18:28.760
because their timing was and Alex called me to

02:18:28.760 --> 02:18:30.299
say do you know this karmic guy and I said listen

02:18:30.299 --> 02:18:32.680
you got you can't bump this kid because he kept

02:18:32.680 --> 02:18:34.780
the night before he's like I haven't heard from

02:18:34.780 --> 02:18:36.520
I'm not I guess he's not going on because they

02:18:36.520 --> 02:18:38.399
were announced piano I see you're going on trust

02:18:38.399 --> 02:18:40.959
me I gave my word and he did and I and then I

02:18:40.959 --> 02:18:43.540
go and I'll be there with you and then Alex is

02:18:43.540 --> 02:18:44.979
the one that threw the jabs shot that got him

02:18:44.979 --> 02:18:47.860
twisted and joey c begging me to come on That

02:18:47.860 --> 02:18:49.600
was such the biggest lie in the world. Cause

02:18:49.600 --> 02:18:51.840
me and I just talked to Alex last night and he's

02:18:51.840 --> 02:18:53.280
coming in next week. You want to go do a city

02:18:53.280 --> 02:18:55.579
hall thing? I said, yeah, he's right. I'll call

02:18:55.579 --> 02:18:58.319
you when I get in. But Alex likes to, he likes,

02:18:58.319 --> 02:19:00.200
he's the troll of all trolls. He's the king of

02:19:00.200 --> 02:19:02.059
all trolls. And he likes to, he likes to steer

02:19:02.059 --> 02:19:04.239
the pot. I had all of them, a good attention.

02:19:04.420 --> 02:19:06.299
You have a great relationship with Alex, right?

02:19:06.299 --> 02:19:08.739
Great relationship. If I text him, he'll answer

02:19:08.739 --> 02:19:12.159
me in three seconds. That's great. That's not

02:19:12.159 --> 02:19:13.920
the relationship I have with him. Joey, who got

02:19:13.920 --> 02:19:16.700
him on the show? Was it Mersh? Mersh is the one

02:19:16.700 --> 02:19:19.159
that got... But he asked me what I thought and

02:19:19.159 --> 02:19:22.020
what kind of guy he was. And I said, and I'm

02:19:22.020 --> 02:19:23.360
the one that went on to put the... Mersh did

02:19:23.360 --> 02:19:26.260
make that phone call, and Alex likes Mersh, and

02:19:26.260 --> 02:19:29.219
he was a big part of Karmic getting on. But Alex

02:19:29.219 --> 02:19:31.200
did still call me a couple of days before to

02:19:31.200 --> 02:19:33.219
ask me what I thought of Karmic, and I pumped

02:19:33.219 --> 02:19:36.079
Karmic up so much on the phone. And Karmic didn't

02:19:36.079 --> 02:19:38.139
follow through on it, right? He asked him to

02:19:38.139 --> 02:19:40.200
come on, and then Karmic... So this is the thing

02:19:40.200 --> 02:19:41.659
that people don't know about karmic and i actually

02:19:41.659 --> 02:19:43.620
talked to some people that have done business

02:19:43.620 --> 02:19:46.620
legit business or tried to do business with karmic

02:19:46.620 --> 02:19:49.719
he's very lazy he's very unprofessional he doesn't

02:19:49.719 --> 02:19:52.200
follow up on things he makes a lot of promises

02:19:52.200 --> 02:19:54.620
that he doesn't deliver on because he's he's

02:19:54.620 --> 02:19:57.180
peter pan yeah he's living in this little dream

02:19:57.180 --> 02:19:59.819
world in his modular home in northern minnesota

02:19:59.819 --> 02:20:02.120
without a care in the world dancing like a you

02:20:02.120 --> 02:20:05.350
know a zesty little fruit You can you can rewind

02:20:05.350 --> 02:20:08.590
his life to like 20 years ago and it's him on

02:20:08.590 --> 02:20:11.090
the same tantrum in his bedroom with his mom

02:20:11.090 --> 02:20:13.430
outside of the door knocking and saying, no,

02:20:13.450 --> 02:20:15.350
you're great. Carmich, you're fucking great.

02:20:15.569 --> 02:20:18.229
No, I'm the best. And then somebody was mean

02:20:18.229 --> 02:20:20.290
to him at school. It's just you're right. You're

02:20:20.290 --> 02:20:22.329
right. If you didn't help out, he probably doesn't

02:20:22.329 --> 02:20:25.170
do the Alex Stein show because he didn't. He

02:20:25.170 --> 02:20:27.030
was like he said he wanted to do it, but then

02:20:27.030 --> 02:20:29.209
he doesn't like follow up and he doesn't do the

02:20:29.209 --> 02:20:30.889
thing he thought he was going to do it. And I

02:20:30.889 --> 02:20:32.590
told him, I got to make sure it's going to happen.

02:20:33.030 --> 02:20:35.409
Like I said, Mersh talk. Alex called me to ask

02:20:35.409 --> 02:20:38.229
me what I thought. I said, listen, I'll come

02:20:38.229 --> 02:20:40.209
on. I don't know. I'm not going to speak that

02:20:40.209 --> 02:20:42.649
much. You know, it's his for him show. I know

02:20:42.649 --> 02:20:45.270
it sucks that Chrissy bear bump kind of bump

02:20:45.270 --> 02:20:47.069
took away from him. That's the people that took

02:20:47.069 --> 02:20:50.670
away from him. But I still wouldn't. But weren't

02:20:50.670 --> 02:20:53.190
they pre -scheduled because they flew out to

02:20:53.190 --> 02:20:54.770
Dallas. Correct. They were they had they were

02:20:54.770 --> 02:20:56.670
doing they weren't they doing a comedy show there.

02:20:56.729 --> 02:20:58.309
Yeah. But I think somehow it got mixed up on

02:20:58.309 --> 02:21:01.450
a date when he told Carmich. I think he forgot

02:21:01.450 --> 02:21:03.569
that that was the day he had them on. So he was

02:21:03.569 --> 02:21:06.670
gonna take the heat, huh? That's what's so funny.

02:21:06.870 --> 02:21:09.129
He does, that does sound like a Democrat. That's

02:21:09.129 --> 02:21:11.489
why it's so funny that he's like a rampant racist

02:21:11.489 --> 02:21:14.030
right winger. It's like Carmich is like the most

02:21:14.030 --> 02:21:17.049
like the embodiment of like a liberal, a liberal

02:21:17.049 --> 02:21:20.409
pussy that wants empathy and all that. But like

02:21:20.409 --> 02:21:23.590
when it's not about him, he's just like a veal.

02:21:23.770 --> 02:21:28.930
He's a violent racist and Trump supporter. Joey,

02:21:29.110 --> 02:21:31.229
Jake Hudson wants to know. And I was thinking

02:21:31.229 --> 02:21:34.149
this. Fuck you, Jake. What's your fucking problem?

02:21:34.389 --> 02:21:38.069
You turn on me. I've been nothing but good to

02:21:38.069 --> 02:21:40.850
you. I fucking just send you money left and right.

02:21:40.850 --> 02:21:43.309
He's turned on me 15 times. What's your fucking

02:21:43.309 --> 02:21:47.010
problem, Jake? Sorry, guys. Oh, anyway, Jake

02:21:47.010 --> 02:21:50.770
Hudson wants to know, Joey. He thought you resigned

02:21:50.770 --> 02:21:53.010
from the president. I announced it on my show.

02:21:53.069 --> 02:21:56.000
OK, I announced it on my show. And I still had

02:21:56.000 --> 02:21:57.680
to go do the paperwork. So I called the Federal

02:21:57.680 --> 02:22:01.040
Election Commission on that Friday, on the Friday

02:22:01.040 --> 02:22:03.100
after I did my show. And I was talking with the

02:22:03.100 --> 02:22:04.280
guy because he had to do my end, he had to do

02:22:04.280 --> 02:22:06.500
the end of the year reports. And because I'm

02:22:06.500 --> 02:22:09.139
grassroots and I haven't got no political campaign

02:22:09.139 --> 02:22:12.020
help from any of the Republicans or the Democrats,

02:22:12.219 --> 02:22:14.360
and I haven't collected no campaign, you know,

02:22:14.360 --> 02:22:17.500
I have it all set up. So my report was simple.

02:22:17.520 --> 02:22:20.579
I had to ask her, the lady that's assigned to

02:22:20.579 --> 02:22:23.079
each campaign, they have different people that

02:22:23.079 --> 02:22:26.309
go to people. And I said, I still have to file

02:22:26.309 --> 02:22:27.989
it. And mine was all zeros because I haven't

02:22:27.989 --> 02:22:30.729
made $5 ,000. I didn't spend $5 ,000. Nothing's

02:22:30.729 --> 02:22:32.629
in and out of that account. But I said, I was

02:22:32.629 --> 02:22:34.290
thinking about pulling out because I know reality.

02:22:34.409 --> 02:22:36.950
I'm one in a 50 million shot of making it. But

02:22:36.950 --> 02:22:40.250
I want to hear my voice. I want to I want to

02:22:40.250 --> 02:22:42.290
speak. I want to I got some things that need

02:22:42.290 --> 02:22:44.969
to be changed. I love America. I love this country.

02:22:45.129 --> 02:22:48.510
And I hate corruption. I've seen it firsthand

02:22:48.510 --> 02:22:51.190
in really real life. No one's going to anybody

02:22:51.190 --> 02:22:54.149
that's naive and thinks that that the senators

02:22:54.149 --> 02:22:56.170
and the president himself don't get envelopes

02:22:56.170 --> 02:22:58.850
from drug lords and suitcases of money to let

02:22:58.850 --> 02:23:00.809
stuff come across the border you're naive if

02:23:00.809 --> 02:23:02.850
you don't think that because it does happen they're

02:23:02.850 --> 02:23:04.790
in bed with they were in bed with the mob they

02:23:04.790 --> 02:23:07.209
went to the mafia to help them put wars they

02:23:07.209 --> 02:23:09.530
went to the mafia to help them kill kill kennedy

02:23:09.530 --> 02:23:12.309
they've done all this it's all factual you understand

02:23:12.309 --> 02:23:17.569
so i think it's time america us you the average

02:23:17.569 --> 02:23:20.719
working us is to all stand together and get rid

02:23:20.719 --> 02:23:23.180
of these corruption and fight for what's ours

02:23:23.180 --> 02:23:25.559
and make this a good place again. We helped too

02:23:25.559 --> 02:23:27.639
many foreign countries. Not that I'm saying we

02:23:27.639 --> 02:23:29.940
shouldn't, but we got our own American soldiers

02:23:29.940 --> 02:23:34.260
sleeping on America first. I'm America's worst

02:23:34.260 --> 02:23:38.799
out of these countries. I'm America first. That's

02:23:38.799 --> 02:23:41.379
right. What did you and I talk about the other

02:23:41.379 --> 02:23:44.139
day about Trump? We were kind of like not like

02:23:44.139 --> 02:23:46.590
I'm a huge Trump guy, but. We were ready to just

02:23:46.590 --> 02:23:48.750
like shake things up, right? Like, let's let's

02:23:48.750 --> 02:23:51.110
do something different. There's drain the swamp.

02:23:51.489 --> 02:23:53.709
But guess what? He turned out to be just like

02:23:53.709 --> 02:23:56.489
everybody else. He's a swamp. OEC would be different.

02:23:56.690 --> 02:23:58.850
I know you would be different. I would never

02:23:58.850 --> 02:24:00.969
sell myself for the American people. I would

02:24:00.969 --> 02:24:03.209
never I don't care if it even got me got me in

02:24:03.209 --> 02:24:05.049
a way where they're going to kill me. I believe

02:24:05.049 --> 02:24:06.610
something. Let me tell you something. I'm not

02:24:06.610 --> 02:24:08.670
afraid of nobody. Those old senators that have

02:24:08.670 --> 02:24:11.350
been there for 30 years. It's time to go. Here's

02:24:11.350 --> 02:24:13.780
my theory. And people think I'm nuts. The only

02:24:13.780 --> 02:24:15.500
way you want to know how you fight corruption,

02:24:15.959 --> 02:24:17.979
you have to become corruption. And I mean, corruption,

02:24:18.159 --> 02:24:21.319
not by baby stealing, but by thinking like them.

02:24:21.500 --> 02:24:24.079
You want to catch these old senators in the cookie

02:24:24.079 --> 02:24:26.819
jar, find the dirt on them, find the ones that

02:24:26.819 --> 02:24:28.760
go out and they go to hotels with little boys.

02:24:29.760 --> 02:24:33.020
You know what? We need term limits. Okay. There

02:24:33.020 --> 02:24:35.459
should be term limits. Then you can have like

02:24:35.459 --> 02:24:38.780
a churn. Yes. Hi, President Biden. Get the dirt

02:24:38.780 --> 02:24:41.059
on them and don't crumble. They'll leave and

02:24:41.059 --> 02:24:42.219
you'll get rid of the corruption. People say

02:24:42.219 --> 02:24:43.610
you can't feed them. Let me tell you something.

02:24:43.809 --> 02:24:46.110
You follow them around and you get, you get close

02:24:46.110 --> 02:24:47.709
enough and see, cause I promise you there's some

02:24:47.709 --> 02:24:49.409
of them that chase little boys. Some of them

02:24:49.409 --> 02:24:51.250
that are part of the missing children in this

02:24:51.250 --> 02:24:52.629
world, like the Epstein and all that's crazy.

02:24:52.950 --> 02:24:54.670
They're there. There are a lot of sick people

02:24:54.670 --> 02:24:56.389
in this world. People that you wouldn't even

02:24:56.389 --> 02:24:58.610
think of being sick. And there are, but let me

02:24:58.610 --> 02:25:00.809
tell you something. And the real Joe Biden is

02:25:00.809 --> 02:25:02.129
the biggest piece of shit ever. You know how

02:25:02.129 --> 02:25:04.229
much money he's stolen from the American people?

02:25:07.829 --> 02:25:09.549
President Biden's right here. President Biden,

02:25:09.590 --> 02:25:11.110
did you steal money from the American people?

02:25:11.309 --> 02:25:13.450
You know, I think this is all disinformation,

02:25:13.450 --> 02:25:17.250
man. No, it's facts. Joey, see, get the Somalis

02:25:17.250 --> 02:25:20.829
out of date to our state. Somalians are there.

02:25:20.870 --> 02:25:22.649
They're invading us. And those are the ones that

02:25:22.649 --> 02:25:24.389
we got to watch out because they're not like

02:25:24.389 --> 02:25:27.010
the mob mob have codes. They wouldn't hurt children,

02:25:27.110 --> 02:25:28.870
women. The mollies will take your baby and cut

02:25:28.870 --> 02:25:30.350
their head off right in front of you just to

02:25:30.350 --> 02:25:32.149
make a point. Well, yeah, we got a problem with

02:25:32.149 --> 02:25:33.450
that coming in. I know exactly what you're talking

02:25:33.450 --> 02:25:35.510
about. What would you do with illegal immigration?

02:25:35.530 --> 02:25:38.590
What about inclusivity, man? Well, I'm a firm

02:25:38.590 --> 02:25:41.079
believer an eye for an eye. Stop wasting taxpayer

02:25:41.079 --> 02:25:42.940
money. When you've got someone that's debt ruthless,

02:25:43.540 --> 02:25:45.819
it's time to cut them off. It's time to cut their

02:25:45.819 --> 02:25:48.239
heads off and get rid of these people. Go after

02:25:48.239 --> 02:25:50.719
the big drug lords and kill them. Don't bring

02:25:50.719 --> 02:25:53.959
them to justice. Kill them. Take them out. Have

02:25:53.959 --> 02:25:57.280
you ever like asked yourself why they're Somalian

02:25:57.280 --> 02:26:00.540
refugees? Why do you get mad when they show up

02:26:00.540 --> 02:26:02.680
in this country but you don't give a shit like

02:26:02.680 --> 02:26:05.620
in 2006 where we just keep installing leaders

02:26:05.620 --> 02:26:09.180
in Somalia? We just did a regime change in Venezuela.

02:26:09.639 --> 02:26:12.100
We don't let them have independent governments

02:26:12.100 --> 02:26:14.719
because we steal their oil and their natural

02:26:14.719 --> 02:26:18.159
resources and then we impoverish the people there

02:26:18.159 --> 02:26:20.969
and we take them in out of guilt for that. Instead

02:26:20.969 --> 02:26:23.190
of bitching at the people who've had their countries

02:26:23.190 --> 02:26:27.190
ruined by the United States foreign policy and

02:26:27.190 --> 02:26:30.850
Venezuela, why don't you advocate for us to stay

02:26:30.850 --> 02:26:33.510
the fuck out of their countries? Thank you. We

02:26:33.510 --> 02:26:35.250
put too much money into foreign countries. I

02:26:35.250 --> 02:26:37.729
get tired of soldiers sleeping on the VITAD,

02:26:37.989 --> 02:26:40.149
soldiers sleeping on the street. I gave a guy

02:26:40.149 --> 02:26:41.930
five dollars the other day. It was my last five

02:26:41.930 --> 02:26:44.909
bucks in my pocket. And he was a vet. I go, why?

02:26:45.930 --> 02:26:48.799
And ain't just Obama, you fucking cunt. It's

02:26:48.799 --> 02:26:50.639
terrible. I don't like to see that. They fought

02:26:50.639 --> 02:26:52.600
for our country. Sorry. Can't take the people

02:26:52.600 --> 02:26:55.020
and give them a home. Come on. Or hey, you guys.

02:26:55.020 --> 02:26:58.479
It's not a fucking con. How much money do you

02:26:58.479 --> 02:27:00.479
piss away taking your friends on a jet somewhere

02:27:00.479 --> 02:27:02.420
to go have lunch over in Australia? Yes, we did.

02:27:02.559 --> 02:27:05.760
Look it up. You fucking retard. Don't don't don't

02:27:05.760 --> 02:27:08.139
get me started with all you crook. Hey, Joey,

02:27:08.379 --> 02:27:11.569
Joey, what's the 15th Amendment? Chile made off

02:27:11.569 --> 02:27:14.510
for $2. What's the 15th Amendment? He's muted.

02:27:14.809 --> 02:27:18.549
We can't hear you. I lost my hair in for a sec.

02:27:19.620 --> 02:27:22.040
President Biden put those those hearing aids

02:27:22.040 --> 02:27:24.379
back in please. Oh, sorry. Yeah, I really hit

02:27:24.379 --> 02:27:25.719
the mute button. Oh, you were getting out you

02:27:25.719 --> 02:27:29.079
were getting hyped up. Yeah I don't know all

02:27:29.079 --> 02:27:31.459
the amendments. I don't know all the grindy pinnacle

02:27:31.459 --> 02:27:33.159
of stuff. I don't know. I'm learning all that

02:27:33.159 --> 02:27:36.059
stuff. I didn't go to school. I hated schools,

02:27:36.139 --> 02:27:38.559
but I know about corruption I know what's wrong

02:27:38.559 --> 02:27:40.440
and in order to be fixed in this country and

02:27:40.440 --> 02:27:43.459
I know how you have to do it. Yeah Okay, but

02:27:43.459 --> 02:27:45.579
for me, you'll get all it means it means you

02:27:45.579 --> 02:27:48.379
can't discriminate based people voting based

02:27:48.379 --> 02:27:49.680
on their race. We can't make it about politics

02:27:49.680 --> 02:27:52.719
no more. Politics is what got us wound. No, but

02:27:52.719 --> 02:27:55.040
Joey, the problem right now is like in this post

02:27:55.040 --> 02:27:57.940
-Trump era everything is, everything has become

02:27:57.940 --> 02:27:59.959
politics so we don't even know how to sort out

02:27:59.959 --> 02:28:02.219
things that didn't used to be politics. They've

02:28:02.219 --> 02:28:04.079
taken religion out of the schools, they've taken

02:28:04.079 --> 02:28:05.920
so much away from, they've taken music away from

02:28:05.920 --> 02:28:07.239
schools. They've taken religion out of the schools?

02:28:07.379 --> 02:28:10.040
No they're not. Well they have, some places do.

02:28:10.379 --> 02:28:14.659
They took out all the academics like uh music

02:28:14.659 --> 02:28:16.079
they're taking music away from schools they're

02:28:16.079 --> 02:28:20.760
taking away are they still doing pledge of allegiance

02:28:20.760 --> 02:28:22.559
i don't think they are i don't think carolina

02:28:22.559 --> 02:28:25.819
they are take a like button and here as much

02:28:25.819 --> 02:28:28.000
as people i want to hear this you want to cut

02:28:28.000 --> 02:28:31.659
crime down stop releasing people from prison

02:28:31.659 --> 02:28:33.639
and not letting them give you give them an idea

02:28:33.639 --> 02:28:35.440
throwing them out on the street so they have

02:28:35.440 --> 02:28:37.040
no choice but to go out and hurt somebody in

02:28:37.040 --> 02:28:39.760
crime get programs reform programs that really

02:28:39.760 --> 02:28:42.379
reform them and teach them a trade so they can

02:28:42.379 --> 02:28:44.659
come out. Give them an ID when they get out of

02:28:44.659 --> 02:28:47.340
it. Let them go get a free ID. Give them somewhere

02:28:47.340 --> 02:28:50.620
to go for 90 days so they can get a job and you'll

02:28:50.620 --> 02:28:52.520
cut crime down. You know how many people get

02:28:52.520 --> 02:28:55.059
released? They got no ID. The minute they get

02:28:55.059 --> 02:28:57.200
50 feet from the prison, the cops pull them over.

02:28:57.600 --> 02:28:59.120
Where's your ID? I don't have one. And I'm locking

02:28:59.120 --> 02:29:00.899
them right back up. Hey, Joey, what are you doing

02:29:00.899 --> 02:29:04.139
the first 30 days? President Biden, just one

02:29:04.139 --> 02:29:05.739
second. Hey, Joey C, what are you going to do

02:29:05.739 --> 02:29:08.840
the first 30 days on your president? What's like

02:29:08.840 --> 02:29:11.120
the What do you got to knock out right away when

02:29:11.120 --> 02:29:14.899
you get into office? My two top acts, my prison

02:29:14.899 --> 02:29:22.659
reform act and my internet act of fixing the

02:29:22.659 --> 02:29:24.680
trolling and the hate and the people that are

02:29:24.680 --> 02:29:27.860
making people commit suicide and stuff like that.

02:29:28.239 --> 02:29:30.979
Reform frame one, get rid of the internet trolls

02:29:30.979 --> 02:29:36.719
too. For me, I'm not a politician. Then we go

02:29:36.719 --> 02:29:39.139
fix this problem with... with the health care

02:29:39.139 --> 02:29:42.659
for people. That's universal health care is number

02:29:42.659 --> 02:29:45.500
one. Health care should not be tied to employment.

02:29:45.979 --> 02:29:50.780
It makes you a medical health slave to businesses.

02:29:51.239 --> 02:29:56.200
It's a bizarre that health care was ever assigned

02:29:56.200 --> 02:30:00.379
attached to employment. Your boss will pick the

02:30:00.379 --> 02:30:04.040
cheap worst health care plan for you. Yeah, my

02:30:04.040 --> 02:30:07.260
boss only cares about the bottom line, not about

02:30:07.260 --> 02:30:09.559
my health. Right. California just got raised

02:30:09.559 --> 02:30:12.059
to 17 dollars our minimum wage. But how much

02:30:12.059 --> 02:30:14.819
did how much percent of California go up for

02:30:14.819 --> 02:30:17.620
everything else in rent, cars, payments, insurance,

02:30:17.799 --> 02:30:20.719
food, 50 times that three dollar raise they got.

02:30:21.020 --> 02:30:23.299
So they're just making more poverty for people.

02:30:23.579 --> 02:30:25.680
I believe that there's no federal minimum wage.

02:30:25.799 --> 02:30:29.360
I think people should be paid. I think people

02:30:29.360 --> 02:30:32.040
should be paid what what the company feels they're

02:30:32.040 --> 02:30:34.180
worth. Let people get paid what they're worth.

02:30:34.420 --> 02:30:38.760
Don't write cap on them. Right. I know this is

02:30:38.760 --> 02:30:43.520
from surely made up for $5 politics sharks politics

02:30:43.520 --> 02:30:47.100
does suck. We all you know, it's not black and

02:30:47.100 --> 02:30:49.420
white. There's a lot of nuance to it. We're not

02:30:49.420 --> 02:30:52.260
all going to agree on everything. I like this

02:30:52.260 --> 02:30:58.459
Biden. But uh, Shuley made up, Ava, Ava, he says,

02:30:58.879 --> 02:31:00.659
Ava, don't waste your time with this new port.

02:31:00.840 --> 02:31:04.139
This guy was cleaning jock straps in 2006. He's

02:31:04.139 --> 02:31:06.120
talking about you, Joey. You gonna take that?

02:31:06.420 --> 02:31:10.120
Wow. Can I say something to Shuley made up? And

02:31:10.120 --> 02:31:12.100
Shuley, Shuley'll pay. So that's why he comes

02:31:12.100 --> 02:31:13.819
to mind and carries me up, but he pays money,

02:31:13.959 --> 02:31:16.940
he always pays. Same here, same here. I do, you

02:31:16.940 --> 02:31:19.459
do it with class, you fucking tip well and you

02:31:19.459 --> 02:31:22.760
talk to bad shit. You know, like I said, don't

02:31:22.760 --> 02:31:25.360
be hatin'. If you want to be if you want to come

02:31:25.360 --> 02:31:27.360
and learn how to wash jockstraps and watch all

02:31:27.360 --> 02:31:29.379
the and the cock gays in the locker room, I'll

02:31:29.379 --> 02:31:31.120
be glad to get you an invited in the locker room.

02:31:31.379 --> 02:31:33.299
I'll be glad to help take you over to Washington

02:31:33.299 --> 02:31:36.239
jockstraps. Is that like ball washing? I was

02:31:36.239 --> 02:31:38.799
at 2006. I was already I was running the club.

02:31:38.959 --> 02:31:42.040
I had by my I had people under me to work, but

02:31:42.040 --> 02:31:44.520
I started out as a bad boy in the major leagues

02:31:44.520 --> 02:31:48.659
in Washington. How do they get balls? Huh? Very

02:31:48.659 --> 02:31:53.809
well. President Biden, would you say? He worked

02:31:53.809 --> 02:31:57.549
under you. No, Joe. Joe, do you smoke pot? I

02:31:57.549 --> 02:31:59.870
think you need to. It'll calm me down, buddy.

02:31:59.870 --> 02:32:02.209
Take it easy. How do you get the grass stains

02:32:02.209 --> 02:32:06.549
out of the jerseys, Joe? That's a good question.

02:32:06.790 --> 02:32:09.569
I don't take anything out of their stuff, man.

02:32:10.049 --> 02:32:12.190
Grass stains, depending where it's at, and that

02:32:12.190 --> 02:32:14.530
certain clay mud that they have on the field.

02:32:14.530 --> 02:32:17.350
Hey, I'm Joe. And of course, you know, some guys

02:32:17.350 --> 02:32:19.809
after the game, they look like they slid through

02:32:19.809 --> 02:32:22.399
the whole field because they just mud up. Lot

02:32:22.399 --> 02:32:25.000
of guys that steal bases a lot of scrubbing It's

02:32:25.000 --> 02:32:26.600
a lot of a lot of hot water a lot of scrub a

02:32:26.600 --> 02:32:29.239
lot of chemicals scrubbing scrubbing Because

02:32:29.239 --> 02:32:31.920
a major league uniform can never go out on the

02:32:31.920 --> 02:32:34.600
field again Whatever a tear if they rip it they

02:32:34.600 --> 02:32:36.399
get a new pair in the minor leagues. It's different

02:32:36.399 --> 02:32:38.739
There's no budget like that. So you got a tear

02:32:38.739 --> 02:32:40.959
or if they tear this stuff You got to go get

02:32:40.959 --> 02:32:43.700
a patch so it could get ugly But in the major

02:32:43.700 --> 02:32:45.620
leagues, you've got a you've got a scrub scrub

02:32:45.620 --> 02:32:47.700
scrub There's a guy they have a scrubber that's

02:32:47.700 --> 02:32:49.659
that's what he strictly does the uniforms get

02:32:49.659 --> 02:32:51.559
off the players come in The uniforms are the

02:32:51.559 --> 02:32:53.459
first thing that goes in the back. Scrub, scrub,

02:32:53.579 --> 02:32:55.239
scrub, scrub with different chemicals, industrial

02:32:55.239 --> 02:32:57.899
chemicals. A lot of work. Joey, I mean, Joey

02:32:57.899 --> 02:33:01.559
C, you should do on your YouTube channel, honestly,

02:33:02.020 --> 02:33:05.420
laundry tips. It's a cooking show. Like how to

02:33:05.420 --> 02:33:07.739
get out. Joey C, Joey D. Red sauce. How do you

02:33:07.739 --> 02:33:10.000
get red sauce out? That's so hard to get out

02:33:10.000 --> 02:33:12.319
of, like if you splatter. Spaghetti sauce? Believe

02:33:12.319 --> 02:33:14.260
it or not, here's an old trick. If you're in

02:33:14.260 --> 02:33:16.120
a dress, like if you're a male and you're wearing

02:33:16.120 --> 02:33:18.459
a tie and a white shirt and you go to a restaurant

02:33:18.459 --> 02:33:20.250
to get spaghetti sauce on you, red sauce. You

02:33:20.250 --> 02:33:22.290
go break cleaner, break cleaner, one spray of

02:33:22.290 --> 02:33:24.530
break cleaner dissolves it right off. Yeah, but

02:33:24.530 --> 02:33:28.590
you don't have break cleaner in a restaurant

02:33:28.590 --> 02:33:31.069
though. I've always heard club soda right away.

02:33:31.329 --> 02:33:33.870
Club soda is you're supposed to splat like when

02:33:33.870 --> 02:33:35.670
club soda is you're not supposed to wipe it.

02:33:35.690 --> 02:33:37.709
You're supposed to dot it. Anything red with

02:33:37.709 --> 02:33:39.829
club soda. You just got to work it real soft

02:33:39.829 --> 02:33:41.569
to get it. But you got to do it right away. If

02:33:41.569 --> 02:33:43.090
you let it sit in there for five minutes, you're

02:33:43.090 --> 02:33:44.389
never going to get it out. It works to shaft.

02:33:45.129 --> 02:33:48.209
Yeah, like this, Joe. Joe, I'm called Pooh Thumbs

02:33:48.209 --> 02:33:50.850
because There was a moment in my life in the

02:33:50.850 --> 02:33:52.969
last few months when I got real fast. My pipe

02:33:52.969 --> 02:33:55.389
was broken. So I had to service my wife with

02:33:55.389 --> 02:33:58.750
the pumps. And they're like jackhammers. How's

02:33:58.750 --> 02:34:02.229
your pipe doing now? Excellent. Yeah, excellent.

02:34:02.750 --> 02:34:06.950
And closing on his meth pipe. I smoked that for

02:34:06.950 --> 02:34:09.209
a long time to Joe. Thanks for asking. Surely

02:34:09.209 --> 02:34:12.290
off $2 politics are dumb, but very important.

02:34:12.329 --> 02:34:14.989
That's true. And we'll just have to watch and

02:34:14.989 --> 02:34:17.610
see if it's very interesting. I know I'm a one

02:34:17.610 --> 02:34:20.870
in a 50 billion shot, but if I could get out

02:34:20.870 --> 02:34:24.030
there and make something and get my point of

02:34:24.030 --> 02:34:27.489
views, somebody in public office hears me, might

02:34:27.489 --> 02:34:29.770
be out there when I'm talking and says, this

02:34:29.770 --> 02:34:31.950
guy's making some sense and just, I want to just

02:34:31.950 --> 02:34:35.809
help people. I think what you should do is that

02:34:35.809 --> 02:34:38.750
you should be a public advocate for removing

02:34:38.750 --> 02:34:41.389
the... the rule against felons being able to

02:34:41.389 --> 02:34:45.209
run for local office and then advocate for that

02:34:45.209 --> 02:34:47.510
and get it overturned and show your advocacy

02:34:47.510 --> 02:34:51.950
work there and then run for like a senate or

02:34:51.950 --> 02:34:54.829
house. I can't run for governor though. Until

02:34:54.829 --> 02:34:57.510
Trump pardons me and I did all the paperwork.

02:34:57.709 --> 02:34:59.309
I'm waiting to see if he's gonna pardon me. You're

02:34:59.309 --> 02:35:02.010
gonna have to pay like at least three billion.

02:35:02.010 --> 02:35:04.090
He pardoned Jelly Roll. That's the going rate

02:35:04.090 --> 02:35:07.180
right now to bipartisan. I put in all the paperwork

02:35:07.180 --> 02:35:10.459
and it takes, you know, I don't know him. Jelly

02:35:10.459 --> 02:35:12.899
Roll's famous guy, you got a little more influence.

02:35:13.260 --> 02:35:15.579
I don't know. We all know him at this point.

02:35:15.579 --> 02:35:16.979
Trump is a felon and maybe he'll have a heart,

02:35:17.139 --> 02:35:18.260
so I don't know. All right. Well, we're coming

02:35:18.260 --> 02:35:20.520
up on midnight on the East Coast. I want to get

02:35:20.520 --> 02:35:22.079
everybody. This has been awesome. It's been a

02:35:22.079 --> 02:35:24.559
great conversation. Everybody will love having

02:35:24.559 --> 02:35:27.659
you guys back. Before we wrap up. Way past my

02:35:27.659 --> 02:35:29.670
bedtime. I know. Thank you, President Biden.

02:35:29.909 --> 02:35:31.909
President Biden, do you have any plugs that you'd

02:35:31.909 --> 02:35:34.629
like to get out before we? Yeah, a lot of plugs,

02:35:34.850 --> 02:35:38.809
man. Why do you even have to bring that up? All

02:35:38.809 --> 02:35:40.510
right, President Biden, thank you. Thank you

02:35:40.510 --> 02:35:42.110
so much for joining. We're going to let you go.

02:35:42.209 --> 02:35:45.069
See you. That's a that's really good. Yeah, that

02:35:45.069 --> 02:35:49.389
was good. I have my daughter. I always get emotional

02:35:49.389 --> 02:35:51.229
because I love her so much. But there's her when

02:35:51.229 --> 02:35:55.959
she was a teenager or 11 years old. Wow. That's

02:35:55.959 --> 02:35:58.840
her. She looks like Shirley Temple. She has beautiful

02:35:58.840 --> 02:36:01.299
hair. Everybody wanted her hair. Wow. Is that

02:36:01.299 --> 02:36:02.700
you? She's still got that hair. Is that you,

02:36:02.780 --> 02:36:05.459
Joey? That's me, yeah. I was 30, 33 years old.

02:36:05.760 --> 02:36:08.899
Look at you. Wow, stud there. I was a very good

02:36:08.899 --> 02:36:10.299
looking man. I was a very good looking man. Joey,

02:36:10.440 --> 02:36:12.120
where can we check you out? That was working

02:36:12.120 --> 02:36:14.159
at Phillies. That was during spring training

02:36:14.159 --> 02:36:15.760
at the Phillies in Clearwater. You were with

02:36:15.760 --> 02:36:17.579
the Phillies? Yeah, I was at the Phillies for

02:36:17.579 --> 02:36:19.579
a few years. Oh, cool. So you're doing a show

02:36:19.579 --> 02:36:22.319
this weekend or what's kind of... Well, I normally...

02:36:22.319 --> 02:36:26.360
I started at... uh the the probably in the storage

02:36:26.360 --> 02:36:29.319
room again but everything that was up went up

02:36:29.319 --> 02:36:31.920
last night so now they started a new run so now

02:36:31.920 --> 02:36:34.379
it's the beginning the first day so it's i could

02:36:34.379 --> 02:36:36.579
do the show but i'm gonna i won't bid on anything

02:36:36.579 --> 02:36:38.159
that's just starting out for 10 days because

02:36:38.159 --> 02:36:40.979
it's gonna change and you know so i'm gonna do

02:36:40.979 --> 02:36:42.940
a show saturday we're gonna go over and look

02:36:42.940 --> 02:36:45.940
what's there and then tuesday i'll start doing

02:36:45.940 --> 02:36:49.200
my bidding so this way on thursday in the afternoon

02:36:49.200 --> 02:36:51.479
when everything starts forming to who's gonna

02:36:51.479 --> 02:36:54.079
win Then I'll if I if I'm in the loop or any

02:36:54.079 --> 02:36:56.139
of them, I'll live stream the actual down in

02:36:56.139 --> 02:36:58.159
a few couple of seconds. And then the key is

02:36:58.159 --> 02:37:00.040
what they want to see is me going out there,

02:37:00.059 --> 02:37:01.940
acting like a crazy man and jump diving in the

02:37:01.940 --> 02:37:04.319
storage unit and catching all kind of diseases

02:37:04.319 --> 02:37:06.299
and touching stuff. And, you know, because let

02:37:06.299 --> 02:37:08.520
me tell you something. I got a locker for five

02:37:08.520 --> 02:37:12.379
dollars and a very, very bad, bad Polacka, Florida.

02:37:12.520 --> 02:37:16.459
Oh, yeah. Polacka, Florida is a very dirty place

02:37:16.459 --> 02:37:19.719
of Florida. It's a very poor place. And the locker

02:37:19.719 --> 02:37:22.670
belonged to a stripper. a single girl, a single

02:37:22.670 --> 02:37:25.729
black stripper who had size 11 feet. He had a

02:37:25.729 --> 02:37:27.670
big foot because all her high heels were in there.

02:37:27.969 --> 02:37:30.709
But she had she was in there that broke my heart

02:37:30.709 --> 02:37:33.870
is her little son's toys and all his photos from

02:37:33.870 --> 02:37:37.149
the time he was born to her. But he he had all

02:37:37.149 --> 02:37:40.149
the most expensive toys, all his pictures, his

02:37:40.149 --> 02:37:42.149
clothes were there. She was a good mother. She

02:37:42.149 --> 02:37:45.190
bought him the best of everything. He was the

02:37:45.190 --> 02:37:48.049
classiest of all, because I found her medicines

02:37:48.049 --> 02:37:51.110
that where she had to clap and and all kind of

02:37:51.110 --> 02:37:53.489
diseases for being a stripper. But she was a

02:37:53.489 --> 02:37:57.489
good mother. And I found everything. The name

02:37:57.489 --> 02:37:59.209
of that would cure anything that she would have.

02:38:00.250 --> 02:38:02.430
But after going, you know, you go through the

02:38:02.430 --> 02:38:04.090
photos because, you know, I don't keep that stuff.

02:38:04.370 --> 02:38:06.430
You've got to really part with it. At first,

02:38:06.510 --> 02:38:08.709
I said, I came up with the idea. Let me get back

02:38:08.709 --> 02:38:10.870
to personal for and the guy stopped me at the

02:38:10.870 --> 02:38:12.610
counties. If you do that, you're making yourself

02:38:12.610 --> 02:38:14.829
up the problem. because if you go and make friends

02:38:14.829 --> 02:38:16.829
with them and give them back their personal photo,

02:38:17.049 --> 02:38:18.329
now they're going to come after you and they're

02:38:18.329 --> 02:38:20.049
going to want their stuff back. Right. You can't

02:38:20.049 --> 02:38:22.670
do that. You have to part with it. So it's hard

02:38:22.670 --> 02:38:24.530
to throw someone's life photos. You know that

02:38:24.530 --> 02:38:26.530
that photos are everything. You know, you don't

02:38:26.530 --> 02:38:29.090
want to lose photo. And I just you got to just

02:38:29.090 --> 02:38:30.870
toss them. You know, it's awesome. You got to

02:38:30.870 --> 02:38:33.530
just let it go and toss them. But I did find

02:38:33.530 --> 02:38:36.909
one a couple of times with soiled condoms in

02:38:36.909 --> 02:38:39.579
the couch. You know, I'm. Yeah, I mean, filled

02:38:39.579 --> 02:38:42.920
to the max, which would soiled very badly. So

02:38:42.920 --> 02:38:46.719
I found some stuff like that. I found one that

02:38:46.719 --> 02:38:49.579
a guy that was a swingers club. He was a bar

02:38:49.579 --> 02:38:53.760
swingers club in Florida. And I found his personal

02:38:53.760 --> 02:38:56.379
collection of the memory old. What was the kind

02:38:56.379 --> 02:38:57.959
of the camera that when you snapped it, it came

02:38:57.959 --> 02:39:01.600
out the right. Yeah. And he had a bunch of Polaroids

02:39:01.600 --> 02:39:05.059
of women from this late 60s or 70s. Women back

02:39:05.059 --> 02:39:07.180
there didn't shave. They had the bush. So he

02:39:07.180 --> 02:39:09.030
had all these different Different size women

02:39:09.030 --> 02:39:12.489
with the bush photos and and I found a lot of

02:39:12.489 --> 02:39:15.709
dildos in one bag a lot of stuff like that They

02:39:15.709 --> 02:39:18.209
were all used they were all used and dirty So

02:39:18.209 --> 02:39:19.610
I had was getting ready to throw them out and

02:39:19.610 --> 02:39:22.790
I had this guy I swear to you I knew this guy

02:39:22.790 --> 02:39:25.909
not that well I had stopped by his house because

02:39:25.909 --> 02:39:27.690
he was buying he's buying a jukebox that I got

02:39:27.690 --> 02:39:29.610
out of there and He goes what's in that bag.

02:39:29.670 --> 02:39:30.989
I go. Oh, I'm throwing it out. It's garbage.

02:39:31.090 --> 02:39:33.229
He went through it He goes I'll clean those up

02:39:33.229 --> 02:39:39.350
and use them on my wife tonight Yeah, so I found

02:39:39.350 --> 02:39:42.389
some sick stuff I found a lot of sick stuff I

02:39:42.389 --> 02:39:46.250
Found I stumbled onto a storage unit ahead. You

02:39:46.250 --> 02:39:49.670
know what MDA MDNA is it's a drug that makes

02:39:49.670 --> 02:39:53.450
It's on the United States panelists. Yeah, if

02:39:53.450 --> 02:39:55.889
you get caught with it It's what makes ecstasy

02:39:55.889 --> 02:39:58.110
and all that you have the hardcore stuff I found

02:39:58.110 --> 02:40:00.670
a lab that was in they were using a storage unit

02:40:00.670 --> 02:40:04.309
with all the pills and the powder and I had to

02:40:04.309 --> 02:40:06.260
immediately and me i'm not afraid of nothing

02:40:06.260 --> 02:40:08.440
labs i would not it was a mess they were making

02:40:08.440 --> 02:40:10.479
they were making mda they were making exercise

02:40:10.479 --> 02:40:13.860
and loose rubbers normally i would put down the

02:40:13.860 --> 02:40:15.579
bag it took it took it to the garbage myself

02:40:15.579 --> 02:40:18.360
i called the police immediately waited showed

02:40:18.360 --> 02:40:20.200
him i just bought this unit and let them take

02:40:20.200 --> 02:40:23.540
it out uh i did find a gun once and i love guns

02:40:23.540 --> 02:40:26.159
but once i became a felon i had to turn in my

02:40:26.159 --> 02:40:29.040
gun so i got nervous my luck if i would have

02:40:29.040 --> 02:40:31.059
transported it even though i showed the paperwork

02:40:31.059 --> 02:40:33.239
that i i was going to take it to the police department

02:40:33.450 --> 02:40:35.629
My luck is that they would have called me a liar

02:40:35.629 --> 02:40:37.250
and they would have rested me for having the

02:40:37.250 --> 02:40:38.930
gun. So I called the police to come and get the

02:40:38.930 --> 02:40:39.989
gun because I can't I'm not supposed to be in

02:40:39.989 --> 02:40:43.889
your gun. So yeah. Yeah, Joey. It was a pleasure

02:40:43.889 --> 02:40:47.370
having a pleasure. Thank you. I hope you'll come

02:40:47.370 --> 02:40:50.250
back and join us. Absolutely. Anytime. Anytime.

02:40:51.149 --> 02:40:54.049
You're very, very interesting. Thank you. And

02:40:54.049 --> 02:40:56.649
I've enjoyed having you on. I enjoyed being here.

02:40:56.969 --> 02:41:01.879
Yeah. You always it's great. It's nice to hang

02:41:01.879 --> 02:41:04.059
out again. I love you so much, Joey. Thank you.

02:41:04.059 --> 02:41:06.319
Same here. And maybe one day I'll reach out to

02:41:06.319 --> 02:41:07.879
you and you can come and do a stream with me.

02:41:07.879 --> 02:41:10.420
You know, I'd be honored to. Right. Great. Guys,

02:41:10.479 --> 02:41:12.799
what are you cooking? Joey, what do you plug

02:41:12.799 --> 02:41:14.860
in before you go? Oh, yeah. I'm just going to

02:41:14.860 --> 02:41:16.639
tune into Saturday night. It'll be Saturday night.

02:41:16.940 --> 02:41:20.239
The third episode of the storage spine. Oh, tomorrow,

02:41:20.479 --> 02:41:23.399
Friday. I started telling the Catalan network.

02:41:23.760 --> 02:41:27.680
I said I am now we are not partners. I agreed

02:41:27.680 --> 02:41:32.420
to do a Friday night show with him. And we sat

02:41:32.420 --> 02:41:35.139
down, we hashed out the rules. He asked me who

02:41:35.139 --> 02:41:37.000
I don't want to see on the show. I gave two names

02:41:37.000 --> 02:41:38.739
for the band list. He's going to be bringing

02:41:38.739 --> 02:41:41.700
people on that my haters to have an opportunity

02:41:41.700 --> 02:41:44.700
to confront me on the show and go back and forth

02:41:44.700 --> 02:41:47.059
with me. And then we're going to show a lot of

02:41:47.059 --> 02:41:49.100
clips of what people, the cruel things that people

02:41:49.100 --> 02:41:51.979
said and what my opinion is of it. And he's going

02:41:51.979 --> 02:41:53.719
to bring guys like American Cupcake in to go

02:41:53.719 --> 02:41:55.969
after me, maybe try to get You know, some of

02:41:55.969 --> 02:41:57.670
the, some of the haters that really trolled me

02:41:57.670 --> 02:42:00.850
hard and see, he wants to get that reaction out

02:42:00.850 --> 02:42:02.790
of me to see how, you know, when they, when they

02:42:02.790 --> 02:42:05.049
go hard to paint, if I'm going to be the old

02:42:05.049 --> 02:42:07.930
Joey C I said, listen, I can't get mad fake.

02:42:07.989 --> 02:42:10.889
I can never do that. I can't pull it off, but

02:42:10.889 --> 02:42:13.069
if they hit the wrong button, there's still a

02:42:13.069 --> 02:42:15.229
guarantee. Don't get that. Don't get it. So,

02:42:16.020 --> 02:42:18.780
Before you go, I'm going to read something uplifting.

02:42:18.780 --> 02:42:21.739
This has been all over the place today. So Reverend

02:42:21.739 --> 02:42:24.899
Rage says discrimination is wrong at any level.

02:42:25.420 --> 02:42:28.020
Everybody needs to be judged as an individual,

02:42:28.319 --> 02:42:31.120
not because of where they're from or the color

02:42:31.120 --> 02:42:35.260
or sexuality, basic manners, and education. Yes,

02:42:35.260 --> 02:42:37.139
I agree. I want to say one more thing and then

02:42:37.139 --> 02:42:39.399
I'm going to shut up here. I also believe that

02:42:39.399 --> 02:42:40.959
true friendship that you have with somebody,

02:42:41.459 --> 02:42:44.000
friendships need to be tested. You need to test

02:42:44.000 --> 02:42:46.479
friends, true friends. and put it through a test

02:42:46.479 --> 02:42:48.659
to see if they're true blue to you. I've always

02:42:48.659 --> 02:42:50.959
maintained that my whole life because, you know,

02:42:51.180 --> 02:42:53.379
people that appear to be your friends. And it's

02:42:53.379 --> 02:42:55.379
happened to it's happened. It happened a couple

02:42:55.379 --> 02:42:57.180
of times. One time to me, it has happened to

02:42:57.180 --> 02:42:59.399
a lot of friends where they they wind up trying

02:42:59.399 --> 02:43:03.520
to go after your lady or lady. I know we're like,

02:43:03.520 --> 02:43:12.389
it doesn't even look real. It looks like. But

02:43:12.389 --> 02:43:14.889
I that's that I'm very big on that testing friendship.

02:43:15.510 --> 02:43:17.510
Don't a friend should never be insulted if you're

02:43:17.510 --> 02:43:19.430
tested as friendship. Right. If you're my true

02:43:19.430 --> 02:43:21.149
friend, then you'll understand that you. Right.

02:43:21.290 --> 02:43:24.329
And friends can have disagreements. Right. You

02:43:24.329 --> 02:43:28.190
know, and make up or discuss, have a healthy

02:43:28.190 --> 02:43:30.309
discussion. And that's what's lacking a lot of

02:43:30.309 --> 02:43:31.950
times with people. Thank you very much. Yes,

02:43:32.010 --> 02:43:34.149
you're right. You know, but good luck with everything

02:43:34.149 --> 02:43:36.670
and we'll see you soon. Bye, Joey. Bye, guys.

02:43:36.729 --> 02:43:38.409
Thank you. So good to see you, Joey. Bye bye.

02:43:38.590 --> 02:43:40.450
Ava, you too. Take care. Where's my little thing

02:43:40.450 --> 02:43:42.250
to get out of here? Guys, have a great night.

02:43:42.709 --> 02:43:44.709
You too. Bye bye. All right. See you, everybody.

02:43:45.110 --> 02:43:47.190
All right, Ava. What's your, what do you plug

02:43:47.190 --> 02:43:50.489
in? I'm nothing. I'm uploading songs to youtube

02:43:50.489 --> 02:43:53.889
.com slash Ava Riza, I think. I don't know. Isn't

02:43:53.889 --> 02:43:57.649
it Ava Riza music at Bandcamp? No, it's Ava Riza

02:43:57.649 --> 02:43:59.969
at Bandcamp and then Ava Riza at YouTube. There's

02:43:59.969 --> 02:44:02.700
a bunch of fake people posting as me. and chatting,

02:44:03.540 --> 02:44:07.940
um, as I've arisen music, but I never know who's

02:44:07.940 --> 02:44:10.739
who. There was like, it has, this is our rise

02:44:10.739 --> 02:44:13.280
in those spaces. So you see people asking for

02:44:13.280 --> 02:44:15.719
the link with anything other than that. It's

02:44:15.719 --> 02:44:18.260
a fake account cause I've never asked. Well,

02:44:18.260 --> 02:44:21.000
uh, Ava, you always used to ask for the link.

02:44:21.200 --> 02:44:24.340
Didn't you? I said, I said you never saw a link.

02:44:24.459 --> 02:44:29.079
You didn't click on it. I don't like you were

02:44:29.079 --> 02:44:31.219
everywhere. Last time I asked for a link was

02:44:31.219 --> 02:44:33.500
like, When Kevin Brennan said he wants to have

02:44:33.500 --> 02:44:35.799
me on the show, and then someone said, Kevin

02:44:35.799 --> 02:44:37.540
Brennan, he wants you to have him on the show.

02:44:37.559 --> 02:44:40.079
And then I tried it and I was like, hey, I'm

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going to come on the show. And then he just like

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lashed out at me. And then he just rewrote it

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into all those months ago on MLC. I always thought

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you were a link slut. I really am not. Maybe

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I'm delusional and I just don't. Deb, you got

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anything to promote? Well, I'm going to be starting

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to get my channel going and my show. And I'd

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like to have Ava on. Of course, anytime. That

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Sunday show. And maybe I have some other things

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in the works. So, you know, stay tuned. Okay,

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Deb, ask me a question now. What are you promoting?

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A probing question. What do you think? What do

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you think happened to that woman that got shot

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by the ICE agent?