you Happy Thursday night. Welcome back. It's
2026. We're back. Dan and Deb, I'm going to you
live on a Thursday night, Thursday night through
down. Deb, how you been? I've been good. I am
well rested. I feel good. I think it's important
to get a lot of rest, take breaks, celebrate
the holidays, step away. Because if you don't
do that, then you flip out on your audience and
Chaos ensues, but we'll talk about that later.
I don't want to leave. I don't want to let our
guest way too long He's waiting. He's warming
up warming up that arm. Yeah. Yeah, let's bring
him right out Give him a warm welcome. Yep a
man who needs no I mean we don't have to give
him any introduction whatsoever. You know him.
You love him. Let's bring him on How are you?
Nice to thank you guys for having me on. How
are you doing? Well, doing well. Good to see
you. I think this is the first time we're having
you on first time. First time. Yes. Yeah. Well,
if we had been talking shit about them and I
said, Joey, we've always, we've always been team
Joey. We've always been team Catalano here on
a nice podcast. Everybody talks about me in some
kind of way. So it don't matter. You know, I'm
cool with it. So Joey, I I tell everybody this,
I'm going to tell you, I find you wildly entertaining.
So I do when you're mad, when you're happy and
I noticed you're doing some cool things. We'll
talk about that, too. You bought a house. You're
working on a house. Yes, yes, yes. So that's
exciting. Good for you. Thank you. And one of
the biggest thing was getting my health in order.
I lost so far forty eight pounds. So I got great
to really do, man. Yeah, I feel like I'm in my
thirties now, so I'm getting that shape back,
you know, so was it? Oh, oh, oh, it was the other
one. Zip down. Oh, OK. OK. Yeah, I'm still on
it. I've been on it six and a half months. First
three months, no results, but maybe like four
pounds that fourth and fifth month and six month.
Bam. It just came off. So yeah, you look great.
Thank you. So yeah. Talk. Walk us through that.
So is it so it's it suppresses your appetite.
So you're eating less. You start out with five
milligrams. For two months, I get a shot a week.
So there's four shots of the box. It's like,
it's a pen. You got to keep in the refrigerator
every week. You take it out. It's like a little
pen just dabbing your eye on your arm. 2 .5 after
two months, I went to five milligrams from five
milligrams, 7 .5. And it does 10 is the next
one. I'm still on 10. I got one more shot and
I just picked up by 12 .5. Yeah. It suppresses
your appetite. It blocks. I mean, I could eat.
I'm being Italian. Number one, I could eat. I
could just eat. I love to eat. So, and I would
eat. overindulge all the time. When I started
streaming a couple of years ago, being up late
and I was getting all this weight, I would eat
in all the wrong hours. I would eat all the junk
food. I would one o 'clock in the morning to
three o 'clock in the morning. I'd be stuffing
five candy bars and 10 sodas, you know, and I
got 100 pounds obese. I was declared officially
obese, which caused me to have heart failure.
I got, you know, that's I damaged my heart really
bad. That's not all that damaged my heart. Of
course, 40 years of drug use is put a lot of
strain on my heart as well, too. I mean, I mean,
I knew that Someday I would have to face this
with all the drug use that I had when I was an
addict So, uh, but yeah, it suppresses you i'll
eat three bites out of a burger or or take up
two bites out of a piece of pizza That third
bite I try and it's like I get nauseous. I want
to throw up So yeah, you don't you want to eat
small stuff. I eat a lot of tuna I buy them by
the cases. I buy tuna packs and I eat them. I
eat them Every couple hours, you know, no mayonnaise
and it just tuna protein. That's I eat a lot
of fruits You know yogurts stuff like that gotta
watch certain things bananas are good for you,
but they got a lot of sugar in it Sugar's not
my friend. It never was. I can have normal stuff.
I just can't indulge in it. Like I can still
have pasta if I want it once or twice a month,
but just not a half a pound of it. You know,
I got to moderate. Yeah, you got a moderation.
What works better? You've probably got more energy.
I couldn't even walk upstairs. My feet were always
swollen because of the heart failure. I got all
my energy back. I could walk normal now. I could
I could almost run again. uh yeah i feel real
good and it's only 48 pounds and i'm only i'm
still 2 12 i'm still i have to get down to about
185 so and i stay there and keep it off so i'm
60 now i just turned 62 weeks ago happy birthday
yeah yeah so this is this this is the serious
years this is the golden years and You don't
know if you're going to go from 60 to 80, 60
to 70 or 60 to 61. You don't know that, you know.
Right. Well, I'm taking it. You seem like you've
been popping up a lot lately. So you're back
kind of in the game. I mean, you're talking to
the Catalano for America stuff again. Well, I
was, you know, I've been putting I stepped away
in April, was in the middle of a stream with
Lou, my ex partner. I for one, I didn't feel
it no more. I just didn't feel the excitement
no more. I felt that I took myself as far as
I was going to go. I was still after two years
being heavily trod, which I didn't mind that
because I like to argue. I like to argue and
go after people. So that part was fine. But what
I was doing is I was consuming all my time. I
was sitting in a seat. I was staying up, hardly
sleeping, eating wrong. And it was just messing
with my health and my mind. My mind was wrong
again. So I had to step back and take a breath.
I had to get my mind. The first thing I worked
on was my mind. I had to get right here in the
head. If I didn't do that, none of this would
be possible. I had to just take a notch down
and evaluate me. You know, I always every morning
for the last 30 years, I wake up and I go when
I go to the shower or the bathroom when I wake
up, I look in the mirror and I say, Who's your
worst nightmare? And I look into myself and I
say you are. I've been my worst nightmare my
whole life. Well, Joey, I thought it was small
and karmic. They're small. They're small. They're
small potatoes. They they they me. I'm my own
worst nightmare. I'm the one that causes all
my mischief. I'm the one that got myself in trouble.
All my decisions. I made a lot of bad choices.
Right. and still trying to maintain to be a good
parent, a good son to my mother, a good husband
to my wife. But still, I had no tolerance for
anger, zero to 150 in less than two seconds.
And I don't mean where I want to talk, you know,
and I'm breaking stuff and I'm like a time bomb.
I mean, I was like that my whole life. Yeah.
Yeah. I worked on that the last six months. I
don't even hardly argue anymore. I don't even
get loud anymore. I just I change my whole format.
I just. I had to reexamine myself and know i've
always been accountable when i'm when i'm wrong
i'm wrong i'll admit it i'll say i'm sorry if
I hurt somebody or i'll go i'll go do what I
have to do to fix it but uh I was just doing
myself too wrong for too many years and it was
time to stop because my doctor said you're the
only one controls it you you live or die that's
up to you so right There were a few shows last
year where I think people were saying, wow, Joey's
got to give himself a heart attack. I almost
did a couple of times. Believe me, I really did.
But it seems like you're rejuvenated. Deb and
I have this conversation all the time. We take
breaks from doing this. Like we took December
off. We didn't do anything. It's awesome. Like
you got to you got to step away. You have to
watch if it interferes with your life. It's not
worth it. You know, and so it's good. It's good.
It's good to hear you say that because we feel
the same way about. Yeah. You know, I need to
listen to my wife more because when she walked
away and and she just she never really fretted
to the people she could handle it. She would
let it go out with a grain of salt and let it
blow over where I would just I'd be irate. She
says, why does this get to you so badly? And,
you know, she knows I'm a fighter. And when they
when they were talking bad about her, I just
had to go for people's throats. And she's like,
I don't care. Don't let it bother you. You're
the one that's getting sick over this. But that's
just me as a man. I believe you marry your wife.
You're protected for life. It's the death of
your parts and sickness and health. And I've
always been protected of my family and my grandkids.
And that's just how I am. You know, I will go
for someone's throat when it comes to my family's.
And when did you learn to come back? When did
you get like the hunger to kind of get back on
doing shows, doing stuff? What was the motivation
there? Well, I mean, I never wanted to lose my
chance. I did shorts and I and I did some live
streams. I thought I only did like 53, but my
one of my neminis is arch nemesis. A cupcake
made a shirt that I did 78 streams since April.
You know, he counted it to a T. And so whatever
I did, but I didn't do them every day. I did
them, you know, maybe one or two periodically
throughout the month or a couple, you know, four
or five a month or whatever. But it was probably
about three weeks ago. You know, I was coming
to the decision because I really been working
hard on the campaign because, you know, I'm only
I'm only in the very, very first step. I still
have to get on. I have to get signatures in all
these states to get on the ballot. You don't
get the signatures. Then you got you. You don't
get into the into the election. So how many signatures
do you need to get? And Florida is the Florida,
California, too tough. Florida is one hundred
and fifty thousand signatures. Wow. Wow. And
California is two hundred and twenty five thousand
and Arizona is one hundred and ninety thousand.
But there's a lot of states that don't need three
thousand five thousand or just pay a fee, pay
five hundred dollars. No, see, Nevada is like
that. You pay five hundred. So I put together
I'm going to go after the smaller states and
get those out of the way before I worry about
tackling the bigger states and see where I'm
at in six months. I have to July of twenty eight
to have had the electoral votes. and everything
into the election office, counting the votes
to see if I made it debate the ballot. How do
you, how do you, how do you go about trying to
get that many votes? Like what's your, what's
your strategy to get that many California votes?
Dabble verse get a thousand or what are we going
to do? I got to tell you this. First of all,
first and foremost is you've got to follow every
law there is. I can't just pop up in a state
and start walking the street and getting signatures.
I, you get in trouble for that. You have to get
permission from an Albertson's every Albertson.
You can do that, but you have to get their permission.
You have to you have to register with that state.
They might have a packet with a certain form
that the people would have to sign, you know,
and I might just take a regular notebook paper
and I'll reject that. Florida is very quirky.
I can show you real quick. It's right here. It's
like Florida is the first state I register with
because obviously I live here. Right. Right.
So so this is the Florida Department of State
acknowledging my candidacy with the FEC. You
know, my official filing papers, I'll be taking
my screen off real quick. But I usually don't
wear a screen. I don't know why I'm possessed
me to put one on tonight. I hate them. But let's
take this off real quick. Why would you start
it like governor? I feel like I can't. I can't.
I'll get to that. I can't. I can't. I can't run
for no local office. I'm a felon. I'm a convicted
felon. That's right. OK. So the only offices
I can run for are two. President of the United
States or a senator. That's it. Isn't that so
funny, though, when you think of Congress? Yeah,
there's a lot of felons. Yeah, they're all crooks.
This is the paper that you got to get from each
state. Granting you permission. Okay. To go out
and then it tells you that you got to get the
packet. You got to have take the people the right
form. I have to print out 150 ,000. I'm doing
a grassroots. I have not, I don't have no backing
from the Democrats or the Republicans. I'm strictly
paying for all this out of myself. As I start
getting into it, hopefully I can, as I go out
to meet people. I'm not a politician. I'm not.
I was a born rich. I was a born a silver spoon.
I don't have money. I'm an average guy, just
like the average Joe that worked hard. I could
relate with a lot of people in reality that hard
working man. You're the American. I put my dues
in. One thing I'll say, I never was afraid of
work and I worked my whole life and I never missed
a day's work. I did have I did have a great job
to me because I love the game of baseball. So
to me, it wasn't work. I went to a ballpark every
day and had fun every day because I enjoyed what
I did. But but I've done a lot of stupid stuff.
I mean, being an addict and a function addict
for 40 years, the very first time I became an
addict, I was I was 21 years old, 20, but 20,
21. Right. Just turned 21. But I dabbled when
I was 18. Very first time. But only one night.
And then I didn't like it. And then when I was
21, I went full throttle. But I in that course
between 21 and 31, I OD three times and almost
died the third time really bad. Oh, so I broke
away. from cocaine in 2007 after the last OD.
And I stayed clean for a little while, but I
was, it was tough for me. Very tough. And, uh,
I had a lot of peer pressures. You know, I had
to stay on top of my game at work. I was older
now. The young guys are coming out of college,
trying to take your job, trying to push you out
the door, trying to get, go and step ahead of
you to get to the big leagues, you know, working
in the locker room. And so I had to stay on my
game and I'm already a hyper person as it is.
So me on cocaine being as hyper as I am. I was
Joey 10 .01 cocaine. Oh, I can only imagine.
Oh, wow. I mean, so I was introduced one night
to this drug called methamphetamine and bad news,
man. It's right. It was with me for all the way
up until 2000 to the day I went to turn myself
in to go to prison, which was November 7th, 2021.
So I've been clean since 21. Oh, wow. And I struggled.
I tried to get clean. I tried. I went to rehab
only one time. I don't I don't believe in rehabs
because I believe it's just a you're with a bunch
of strangers and half the people are just going
through the program to try to beat a case or
something, you know, for the judge or whatever.
And I always if I wanted to step away, I could
step I could step away for four or five, six
months at a time. But I, you know, I was very
private. I didn't party. I didn't go out with
a group of people and party at houses like that.
I was a guy that I was locked away somewhere,
you know, at nighttime by myself. I was on the
road a lot baseball, so I spent a lot of time
in hotels without my family. And then I would
bring my kids down every month for a couple for
a couple of weeks each month to spend time with
me so I could see them. But I never I never my
son came to me when he was 21 and said he someone
had told him that while my ex after we divorced
had to go tell the kids they were adults that
their father was a drug addict. I don't know
what purpose she gained out of that, but she
did. I was going to know why. Why? They never
knew. They never seen nothing. Right. And he
asked me straight up and I couldn't lie to him
when I sat down and I says, boy, I didn't I didn't
see this day coming, you know, because I thought
I was pretty good at sheltering it from them.
And he knows I won't lie to him. I was very honest
with him. And I think it even I thought I was
going to lose a lot of respect for my kids from
that point on. One of them I did. I lost a lot
of respect from my oldest. She dissed herself
very much for me. She she does. She does love
me. And she tells me if you get cleaned, I promise
you, you'll be back in your life. And I and I
and I tried and tried until when she found out
21 not to be clean. We're hoping to start building
it up again. You know, my grandson's 18. Now
he went to college. I missed a lot of years with
him. But my son, my youngest son, I couldn't
lie to him. I won't lie to my kids. I was always
real. I told them all their life. I don't care
what you do, good or bad. Don't ever be afraid
to come to me and tell me because if you go and
try to do something on your own and you don't
include me to At least let me figure out what's
the best option for you. So I've always tried
to be not only the father, but a best friend
to my kids so they could trust me. And I was
the one they all came to. They knew they could
tell me anything. And I'm glad I taught them
that because some kids don't tell their parents.
They don't tell them they're messing with a crowd
with drugs and they wind up the parents find
them dead and fentanyl somewhere. You know, you
got to communicate with them. And I preach that
every day to my kids. Listen, if you get involved
with drugs, if you're doing anything that you
should be doing, come to me right away. I'm not
going to be angry. I'm going to be disappointed.
I'm not going to. beat you. I'm not going to
disown you. But I'm going to try to do the best
to help you. And today, my youngest son, he's
been working. He's working at the Olive Garden
as a waiter. He worked hard to get a manager
position. They offered him a manager job to his
own restaurant. He got married two weeks ago
to everybody knows to miles teller sister. Oh,
yeah. And his whole life is great. And did he
get married in the backyard? No, no, no, he went.
My youngest daughter, my deaf daughter, obviously,
everybody knows what she did to me and my wife.
She's in prison still. She comes home in April.
He wants to wait till she gets out to have the
wedding. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. I'm gonna
read a couple super chats. All right, Mike Donahue
$2. Thank you so much. Joey C is the new buddy.
See on G. You know who buddy Sanchez I have no
idea. He's I think he's from pro I think he was
the a guy from Providence. He was a really corrupt
politician, but everybody loved him. Everybody
loved him. He was like everybody's buddy. That's
the name. Like Mayor Barry from Washington. He
was corrupt too. Yeah. So that's a very New England
reference from Mike there. Don't cool. Thank
you. And Dan was generous to give five nice podcasts.
Stupid. Give them away. You know, if you don't
give them away, you know what? You got to give
away your 10 a month. Got to give them away.
I had it on. I have my unsworn board. It's my
agenda. See, we nice. And I'm doing more show
prep this year. So are you guys related? Are
you guys a couple? Are you a friend? Friends?
Friends? We're just friends. Did you guys did
you guys you guys which are a long time or just
met? Through the internet, like internet for
a couple years now. I've watched you guys before
and I like you guys. You guys got a good format.
You guys do a good job. Yeah. I did have on my
board free memberships. And you know what? Should
we give away the rest so they have a whole month
after we're going to get to these questions?
I'll give out the other ones. And then I want
to ask Joey, because I know Joey, you've got
to you've got your show, I think, coming up tonight.
So I postponed it. So I, but I, but I guess I
can stay, I can stay, I can give you about 45
minutes. All right. Cool. Whenever you want to
bounce, you know, I can even give you an hour,
you know, I got to show up to Saturday. The reason
is when I went to check is that we lost, I didn't
know bids on the storage units. And today they
just started fresh orders 10 days out. So if
I think now it's a waste, waste of time. So storage
units costs, how much do those go for? Well,
you bid on them. They start out at $10 and they
can go, they can go up to thousands, you know,
depending on what's in there. Do you do you know
what's in it or you just it's like, yeah, I do
online store. They give you you get a bunch of
pictures. They open it up, snap pictures. Some
of them are good. Some of them are not. So you
see like boxes. There might be stuff that's good.
Like baseball cards, you know, like they'll usually
list like collectibles or artwork or tools or
sometimes there's a car in there. It might be
motorcycle in there. It could be a bunch of crap.
Yeah, it'd be a bunch of crap. I mean, I've got
a lot of crap, believe me. I do know my friend
used to manage a storage facility. And when you
bid and it's a bunch of crapola, you still got
to haul it out and dispose of it now. It's your
responsibility that you paid for. That's correct.
And you got to leave them a cleaning deposit
because if you don't clean it out, if you just
think you can leave it there, that's why they
get one or $200 upfront from you when you go
pay for the unit. Right. You duck out there.
That's they're cool with that because they'll
keep your money. You don't get to deposit that.
And what's the coolest thing you've found thus
far? Um, it was an ordinary locker, which is
just someone's house, just normal stuff, a TV,
a couch, a bed, wrestlers, um, bathroom stuff,
the, you know, the, the, the little plastic containers
that you put, you know, people sometimes store
it in the bathroom with toothpaste and inside
the drawer inside, um, the Q -tip, it was buried
inside the Q -tip. I found a 18 karat gold college
ring from a college in Florida of the lawyer's
college. Right. It was an old ring. And it belonged
to the guy's father who was a lawyer. And I guess
he went off to jail and the ring was in there.
But it was his father, the history behind it
was his father's who was a lawyer and graduated
from this very well off college as a lawyer.
And I guess the kid went to jail. And I got lucky
and I got a pretty good penny for that. So yeah,
yeah. And I found an old silver and old you know
remember back in the early 1900s end 1800s the
the the servants used to have the silver the
999 silver trays when they would go to the to
serve the people in the house this lady um and
this wasn't actually stored i also went out and
i looked at yard sales and i looked at you know
flea markets this was at a yard sale so he had
a box of silver and she had about this many in
there and i went through the whole all but they
were all silver plated you take a magnet if it
sticks it's no good i get to the bottom one and
it's tarnished real bad and it's Big and it's
heavy and I went there and I go put the magnet
and I turned to my wife christine I go this is
real. I mean, this is real if this is real. This
is about 1200 So I went nicely to the old lady
because she said she was she was in a hurry She
was being she had to move by by it was saturday.
She had to be out of her apartment by sunday
night So she needed to sell all this stuff. She
needed money to move. So I went to her as honest.
I could be a ma 'am You might want to rethink
about that box before I bought it, because she
sold me the whole box of 10 bucks. I will give
you back 10 bucks. Why don't you take that box
inside the house and go through it again? No,
I don't want to just get it out of here. I asked
her at least a dozen times. I said, ma 'am, are
you sure? And I was trying to be very honest
because I didn't want to. I couldn't take advantage
of this old lady. I just couldn't once I found
that there. And I don't know if she knew it.
I don't think she had knew the value of it. And
she just get out of here. I don't know. I don't
want the money, you know, but I want you to get
out of here. I don't want to see it. And I tried
and I looked at my wife, I did right. Right.
I tried. Right. She says, you damn sure did.
So I went right to my silver guy. And I sure
enough, I got $1 ,149 for that. Nice. Nice. Now,
Joey, what do you think about the big news is
Madura from Venezuela? And, and Dan, great question.
This is day 12 member for four months. Yes, a
lovely day to her name with the seasons and the
mood and stuff. But we're going to be president.
You know, obviously government foreign policy
is going to be important for you. It's going
to be important for me. And this is where I have
to brush up, because like I said, the campaign
I'm running is right now in the early stages.
I'm trying to just connect with the ordinary
people like me to show them I'm not a politician.
I'm not I'm not I wasn't golden spoon mouth and
a spoon in my mouth. Just like you, I've I've
had my problems. I've I've I've struggled. I've
lost jobs. I've been I've been where I needed
money. You know, I want to connect with people.
But you're right. Government is a big part of
being a president. And to be honest with you,
my wife was touching that was was watching this
the other day. And that's where we went in and
we captured him and we brought him here. We're
going to play. I mean, whatever reason, Venezuela
has been really tough with us. We don't barter
with them. They don't they don't like us. It
is the cheapest place to get gas. I know a lot
of Venezuelan baseball players that live in Venezuelan
coaches. Oh, yeah. They fill their whole tank
up for seven bucks. Oh, yeah. They don't have
taxes. It's like 11 cents a gallon or so. But
not no more. We're. Yeah. But I know we're demanding
so much oil all the time. Who's the best Venezuelan?
Best Venezuelan. Best Venezuelan to me. Well,
I don't like them, but Caprero. He had to be
one of the best. You know, he's. There's a good
chance he's going to be the next. He'll be the
president of Venezuela someday. Really? Oh, wow.
Yeah. I don't know. The president that was in
for years was his best friend. And when he wasn't
playing baseball, he spent a lot of time with
that. I mean, he was with him like all the time.
They grew up together and people were saying
other Venezuelan people that I know saying he
will be the president someday because he likes
politics and he's very well popular in his countries.
I didn't care for him. He was very arrogant.
Yeah. He wasn't a nice guy to people. I don't
like players when little kids come up to him
in spring training. and ask for an autograph
and they walk past them and don't sign it. Oh,
yeah. That was one of my biggest things with
players. I did not like that. It's a little kid.
Give the kid take the time. Two minutes to sign
the ball. And there's a lot of players that would
just put their headphones on and little kids
be begging them. I couldn't stand. No, I hate
that. Yeah. That's disgraceful. What? I read.
I sure do. Johnny Payton number eight. Thank
you for the dollar nine. And Johnny wants to
know where does Joe stand with Lou and also does
VTL still owe you 100? Yes, Vince Vince still
owes me 100. That's a fact. I got nothing bad
to say about Lou. No, we both were heated. I
said some things he said some things. At one
time I considered Lou when there's a difference
when you stream with someone you never met him.
But when you get when someone lives in your same
backyard, you see each other. potentially every
day and you go to lunch and you hang out, you
build a friendship. And I really consider Lube.
I still do. We're not on speaking terms. And
I just leave it at that. You know, maybe someday
we it's kind of like Abbott and Costello when
they separated or, or Lauren Hardy already separated,
you know, Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis, you know,
maybe 20 years from now, Lou and I will do a
show together. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah,
I'm sure you always keep the door open. That's
right. As a friend, I think Lou is I love Lou
to death. He we had a lot of good times, but
I got nothing to really say to him anymore. And
he really we don't talk. So we just leave it
at that. So Johan said, yeah, another another
great Venezuela. He was a good player. He's good.
Johan's a good player. Definitely. So I just
wanted to say we haven't we have another guest
that's going to come on in a sec. But I saw I
was I did I was on John show with her a couple
of months ago. OK, so she just left. Hopefully
she'll come back here. I got no problem. I never
had a problem with her. So yeah, awesome. Before
we do that, though, I want to ask you. So we
did a poll to start off the show. I voted. Oh,
you did. I did, too. Would you vote for Joe Buckman?
Small Buckman. OK, so tell us a little bit about.
So what's the deal? Like you guys had like a
some sort of thing at Hackamania. Like what's
the very first time this guy laid eyes on me
and he he he he walks around. First of all, he's
a big kiss ass. He's a hobnobs with all the with
all. Before you say anything, I just want to
just give something that happened tonight. Okay,
so schmool buckman knew that we were doing an
extreme and I saw that yeah at nine o 'clock
nine o 'clock He could do it at any get any time
possible. You know, that's a hack. You know that
right? Yeah. Oh, yeah So schmool buckman is a
guy that he rubs elbows with all the with everybody
truly and to be dabblers and Anybody that's big
time. He he he thinks he knows everything. He
thinks he's the most educated everybody He thinks
he had it all figured out and the very first
time I laid eyes on him I didn't even know my
wife had to pay the conversation with him He
just gave me a look, a staredown look like I
could feel the vibe that this guy didn't like
me. And then shortly after that, I don't know
what was it before that. I had a big fall out
with him on a Ray DeVito show. We had a big Ray
brought him on and boxed me in on a show and,
uh, it went kind of bad, but shmoo. I don't think
he ever liked me. He lies and says he likes people
and he does this. He does that, but he lies and,
uh, he just thinks he's more relevant than he
is. And he thinks he knows everything and he
he's the guy that is the guy, you know what I'm
saying? And, and. He's always he screamed at
me one day. He said, you know, you're you're
so ungrateful You don't take rock. Oh, it's been
trying to be right by you and and you don't listen
to nobody You just you're just stubborn in it,
you know, you're gonna go nowhere. You're a loser
and he just kept repeatedly Called me names wanting
me to go on a show. I'm like, I'm not gonna I
don't take that shit from you I go on your show.
You have to come on. You want to fucking dump
on me? Uh, no ain't gonna happen pal. So I just
you know me I try to like everybody I'm cool
with everybody. I thought didn't we didn't we
were together on john stream a couple months
ago. Didn't you and I Absolutely. I'm a huge
fan of yours. Yeah, and I told I got I thought
I said I thought I did a show with Ava and John
a couple months ago I believe I did absolutely
So shmoo I just I just he just rubs me the wrong
way, but Yeah, I talked to you like that, you
know, and he just he has an opinion about everything
and he He thinks you know looking he's got no
eyebrows. He's got this pale face He looks like
he looks like a psycho serial killer He does.
He's the guy that, I mean, if you see walking
down a dark alley, you would have run. And he
thinks, I think he really thinks he's like a
hot guy. Oh, no, no, no, no. I think he thinks
that. He's definitely wrong. You know, he just
has a lot of... I'm no beauty, but like, I mean,
neither is he. You look lovely. I like your hair.
I like your bangs and I like that. Are you wearing
a shirt address? I like that pattern. It's a
good 70s dress. I love it. I love it. You forgot
to give our entrance. All right. And we're back.
Welcome to the show. Thank you so much for joining.
Great to finally come on. Big fan. I'm so happy.
Yes. Absolutely. We're happy to have you. And
you have you have we came in with talking about
Buckman. I'll tell you one thing that was interesting.
And I think it was last week. I couldn't take
that one. Not bad at all. You were on with Buckman
on something. I forget what it was. Oh, it was.
Was it Husey? Maybe the recent one. Yeah. It
was kind of like going back and forth with him
and he, he made a comment that I thought was
very telling, which I think was something that
not shocked me because I know Buckman, but he
made a comment. You guys were kind of debating
and he's like, you know, I've, I never held it
against you about you being trans. I never brought
that up before. He made like this weird veiled
thing of like, that he was like holding back
on criticizing you for being trans. And I found
that to be very weird. And it's another thing
too, that came up with Tukey. And we're going
to talk a little bit about Tukey at some point
tonight, but he also, you know, he had his little
kind of spaz out this week. And I know you were,
obviously you were kind of saying things about
him and sort of messing with him and sending
him super chats, but then he started kind of
doing the trans thing. And once again, You know
people have their thoughts or whatever, but it
just feels like really like sleazy and low to
kind of Degrade yourself to like oh, well, let
me say her name and let me do this and let me
oh, you're you know You shouldn't be taken, you
know, seriously because you're trans or whatever.
It's just like I don't know I I You know, i'm
an asshole, but I feel like i'm kind of above
some of that. I don't know I feel like I agree
with you I don't care what you are if you're
a good person inside and and you project To be
a decent person. It don't matter. I don't care
what anybody is. You know i'm saying I get along
with everybody. You know, I don't care if you're
trans. I don't care if you're gay. I don't give
you bisexual. I don't care if you're a woman
or a child. If you act accordingly when you need
to be when in the real world and you're in your
you care, have self respect. How can you not
like somebody? But people in this dabble verse,
they I mean, it got to the point that when I
finally figured out to just overlook it, they
believe anything that's told to their way or
they'll take something I'll say. And by 10 people,
by the time he gets a temper, I'm a complete
liar. No good piece of shit. You know, And everybody
said, why do you feel the need? Did you have
that? And that's what I was doing wrong. I was
always trying to prove the wrong, which I did
every time. If they came out and made false stuff
about me, I would dig out the paperwork in front.
But I was wrong to do that. I should have never
gave them no time at all, you know? That's what
I did wrong. That's another reason why I stepped
out. So. Ava, Dateswa wants to know, and so do
I. Is that a dick in that photo on the wall?
Because I was staring at it, that over your shoulder.
No, it's a woman's face in the. You don't see
the colors. It's like a psychedelic. Oh, one
of those. Like it looks like a skull, but then
it looks like, you know, I love that. We're going
to take a dick. Now I'm seeing the day now. Now
I have to remove it. I think my channel struck
you. And Dan, I have one for you. I got to go
back. This is my friend, Frankfurt. And he wants
to know if you saw the pic comparison of your
shoulders to panties. Well, first off, yes, I
did see the picture. And yes, panhandler has
a better, I guess, broader shoulders than me.
He's actually a very tall gentleman. I believe
he's kind of like a guy. He looks like a big,
big dude. I'm shorter. And I used to play football.
I used to have kind of like the trap kind of
thing that goes up there. So Yeah, I guess my
shoulders are not broad. I think it's also my
posture, which I, so whenever people bring that
up, I'm like, I need to, you'll even see me sometimes
doing that. Cause I tend to lean in. You have
any spare shoulder pads from some of the dresses
we can send them? I do. I have like a bin of
just cut out shoulder pads. These shoulders are
like with karmic. It's like you you used to be
fat. So like you got yours. You have stretch
marks and you have big dies. Like all these like
guys here like make these weird physical observations
that are kind of you all used to be kids too.
But you know, you all grow up and become someone
else. I don't have the Mr. Panhandler. He has
like those palsy or something awful. I do want
to have a compliment. I've never seen anybody
go after people. the way she does. She reminds
me so much. Not afraid to tell her. I wish she
was around two years ago when I was fighting
all the trolls. I could have had someone that
could be, you know, on the other side of me,
because doing it by yourself, it's fun. But you
you definitely are not afraid to go after people.
And I and I respect that madly over for you,
Ben. That's awesome. I would have been right
there behind you. Like, no, that's kind of what's
frustrating about the two key and the smolding
like schmul knows more than. Anyone they've just
written this story that like I'm like this like
woke person that like gets mad somebody like
Insults me for being trans and it's like that's
not what's been going on at all But like everyone
just believes them like yeah, it's like Joe I'll
just fight you and and get in the dirt with you
and you get in the dirt with me Yeah, I've made
A lot of straight men cry and like delete their
twitters here in our fights. You seem like the
opposite of woke. So like, I don't know where
these people are getting this thing. Like you
came in, you know, looking for some special,
you know, I think they can't handle it because
I'm hitting. Me, I'm hitting them on what makes
them uncomfortable, which is that they're not
funny and that they're irrelevant now. And so
they wanted to make it like about the dead name
thing. And I've explained this so many times,
they just ignore it. There's nothing to do with
me being hurt by someone saying my birth name.
It was like that. There was a moment I was having
a human reaction to people figure out my address
because somebody leaked that dead name and they
were searching it that way. They've just rewritten
it where it's like no obvious. Just like reddit
tranny That's just like oh blocking and whatever
and it's just like not true at all Like I came
here like base is fucking just get in the mud
with people and again The guys like them are
the ones that cry like bitches like tuky final
boss Everyone else says like i'm fucking scared
off the fucking screen not by my face But by
like just hitting them where it hurts and that's
yeah, and I got a lot of heart a lot of heart
You have a lot of heart and I think um What happened
to is aligning yourself with Stuttering John.
Proud of it. And that's good. Good for you. But
it comes at a cost. Absolutely. It really does.
So I got to hand it to you. Don't know I'm gonna
be honest. I don't know how sometimes you can
hold a conversation with him because he's like
a toddler and When there are multiple people
this is just my observation but when there are
multiple people on with stuttering John and I've
like you were on with clay I think or somebody
and having a really cool side. Oh, it was Grindle.
It was Grindle. Were you on with Grindle? Yeah
The guy that was on the other night. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, you were. And I think you really
would like Jim. He's into art films and making
he's very creative. So definitely, you know,
he's a cool guy for you to get to know. He's
just interesting. But I noticed you didn't seem
to know how to take him. He's very kind of got
this like. humor that comes around and hits you
at the angle you're not looking at. So he's awesome.
That platform is not the best showcase for anyone
that's not John. And it's like not the best showcase
for me as a conversation list and all that. But
I do love John and I like those hangouts. So
he's like, Hey, you want to come on? I was like,
I'll have a couple beers and talk to John on
a stream. Right. But yeah, so I can see how that
wasn't hit. That's why I was trying to just ask
him like these pointed questions to just kind
of break the break the leg. thing and so it could.
Yeah, but I didn't take away that he was a bad
guy or anything like that. No, no. I just thought
I'm sorry, Joey. I just thought like a couple
of times I was watching your interactions and
it seemed like you were kind of like not sure
how to take him. And he'll say something that's
a joke, but very serious. And it's not an obvious
joke. Well, but you know, this this space train.
I know, I know. Not paranoid, but like just ready
for an ambush. And so he did like a couple things
where it's like, oh, is he going to do like a
flip a switch? And so I was just trying to be
like, all right, if we can do that, like, let's
rush this along and let me ask you a couple of
questions to get there. But no, he seems fine.
He's cool. Yeah, he's cool. And but getting back
to what I was saying is there was like a side
conversation with with Jim about his work with
the Democratic Party and the votes and illegal
votes. And John is not. interested in any conversation
that isn't about John and I find that frustrating
and I would I've been invited to go on his show
through his intermediate who I won't name but
um and I've always refused number one I don't
need that kind of smoke I'll be honest with you
I get along with his enemies I get along with
pretty much almost everybody and You know, and
I don't know what I would say to him. I don't
think I could have a conversation with him because
it's on a simplistic level. Right. And he's not
he doesn't want to know about you. I never hear
him say, how is your day? What? How was your
day at work? What were you up to? It's always
got to go back to him. You know, he treats Clay
Dabler terribly. He really does for the most
loyal person. I got to say this. I'm sorry. No,
I did a lot of streams with John for seven to
10 months. I went on every show defending him
point to point. I was the guy that they were
trashing him and I was the guy trying to convince
him, but he was good. I butt heads with everybody.
John does come off on stream hard. But he's not
when John, you have a private conversation with
John. John's John is is an intelligent guy. He
really is. He's also a nice guy and a nice guy.
He wears his heart on his sleeve. But John's
a showman. He knows show business. People could
say whatever they want about Stutter and John,
but here's the bottom line. No matter what you
think or what wrong you think he's done, he still
made all those accomplishments, whether he deserved
them or not. He did those accomplishments that
no one could even get close to those things.
He had a record company. He was on Jay Leno.
He was on Howard Stern. John took whatever he
had and pushed himself forward every inch he
could to be better and to go and to go away to
just climb the ladder. He was an expert at that.
Now how he was in his personal life. I really
don't care I mean outside of a couple things
that I didn't disagree that I disagree But you
know what I evaluate myself and say you've done
some shitty things, too Now i'm friends with
I was friends with everybody surely right surely
never I made it. I told you I don't ever squeeze
me against John i'm not talking about you You
can talk about john all you want on your show
Because john used to get mad when I go on the
show and i'm saying john Did you hear me say
anything bad about you? No, I used to make that
point I will not talk bad about john now. I had
a falling out with john because of my own stupidness
and I took things out of content with my wife
and but John always said one thing he says there
was always something about me that he couldn't
stay mad at me I've taught John John is demanding
he likes to talk a lot on the phone when you're
his buddy you know he likes to call you a lot
um but he's he's he's he could be a real good
guy yes he's very demanding he expects a lot
of things out of you he don't expect you to show
him up I mean he would call me up if he was bad
at me expect me you're gonna apologize me in
front of everybody And I laughed at him. I go,
you ain't getting that apology like that for
me, you know, but he understood. We had an understanding.
People lied to him and said that I was, I was,
I was trying to pour him bottom. I did this stuff
and deep down I go, you think about that, John,
would you ask me? And the next day he would say,
you know, I, I know you could, I would never,
I would never go on anybody's show. It happened
to me twice. I could never go try to hurt somebody's
channel because they don't like me. People came
out and tried to take my channel for me. They
did a lot of bad things to me. And I just I'm
not like that. I'm not going to try to take your
channel away. I'm not going to point. I'm not
going to do stupid, silly stuff like that. I'm
not. It's not my character. And John, I grew
to understand him. I consider him a friend. I
always did. I'm glad that we made amends. And
for the most part, John's always treated me with
respect. And he's always been he's always he's
always made me laugh now. Absolutely. That's
100 percent. I'll give him all that. So. Yeah,
if I can piggyback off of that like I get what
you're saying Deb too and it's kind of like you
can you kind of have your Corner with this show
and it's awesome what you do and like yeah I
think if you go into that show you have to understand
what you're going into so I don't like Hold them
against it because I know that's how his show
goes and I find like my little spot in it And
I'm more and more comfortable as time goes on
and to me look good I think you're great with
him and I think you're sort of a John Wrangler.
And I also do like Clay's dynamic because the
things Clay says sort of out of John's earshot,
you know, these little like jabs. And I like
that, you know. Well, Clay, Clay is like king
in there, like next to John. I mean, I have no
ill will to John at all. I just just just well,
we're kind of talking about John. Why do so many
people think? Well, first off, John is the Antichrist,
which I don't understand. He's just a dude. You
know, the amount of fixation on this guy makes
no sense to me. As someone who's sort of neutral,
I don't get it. And I get that, okay, he's a
colorful character and he's famous and you know,
he's got some personal things or whatever. But
like, he's not that interesting that so many
people should be spending as much time as they
do fixate on. But then to take it to another
level, anyone that Associates with him or goes
on his show like you're like, that's like the
oh my god That's that's an unforgivable thing
to just go on like I just went on and had some
fun I was got to meet someone that it was interesting
and I you know I didn't really have any ulterior
motive other than hey, it was it was a cool thing
to do So but there's somebody oh my god, I can't
believe you did you're doing that or you would
consider doing that? And I'm like to me it doesn't
I don't I don't think it's that big of a deal
So it's just weird and I know of a maybe since
you're so in That world like why do you think
people react like that? I think that this is
why I like you guys and you can still give me
shit if you want to about whatever But like I
think it's because you guys are free thinkers
and so like when you say it that way that makes
perfect sense Like that's they they like they
started posting pictures of looking you up and
all that just for going on that way That's how
it started with me and him this year. I just
went on his show and I didn't say anything controversial
and then that's when people just like started
like running background checks on me and all
just for going on the show and just kind of being
like hi and he had a thing he wanted to resolve
with me and he was like he told me i hurt his
feelings and i was like i didn't realize i hurt
your feelings i'm sorry and everyone's like yeah
and then it's just suddenly you're just his enemy
there's like reds about you and and everyone's
just pulling up information because i think everyone
here is so like like you know hive -minded about
it but like and tribal everybody's very tribal
and this camp And this camp, there can't be any
crossover, it seems. Absolutely. You know, you're
either with us or you're against us. And if you're
against us, look out. Right. And, you know, like
I had a sense of that because I used to go and
show like semi regularly. And but I didn't realize
like how dark it gets, like just like people
really have psychologically invested in him failing.
And for them, it's like part of their like, I
guess, coping mechanisms for. their days and
their careers and they want to come home and
laugh at John and if anybody like tries to normalize
him or just doesn't insult him they just freak
the fuck out. It's an odd thing but at this point
they've like turned me into Evil Mu and I'm here
for and fuck them and I'm sorry like I'm happy
to go on John's show. To me the personalities
to pick at are people like Shuley and Carl who
are a bunch of paper tigers and Naotuki too.
Like that to me is more interesting. And Mersh
is trying to take credit right now for saying
like, oh, we reacted this week with just a little
bit of criticism, just a little bit of poking
and prodding. And Dan, hold that thought. I just
want to get through the super chats. And speaking
of insults, I think we got a couple here. I don't
know who it's directed to. Vinny Goomba. Thank
you for 499. Oh, there it is. I thought it was
a roach on my screen. Tried to wipe it away,
but still there. That's a nice thing to say about
me, Vinny. Don't talk about me like I say it
all the time, Vinny. I say I know I'm the most
hated man around, but that's the black hole of
the dabble verse. And then I'm going to go to
his next one. Thank you again for 99 Vinny Goomba.
Words used by that ghoul. Now that's me. I'm
the ghoul. Words used that goal to other people.
Stupid, gay, ugly, boring, lame, bitches, failure,
arrogant. It has no redeeming qualities. I kind
of like to wear in a diaper. That was that was
kind of actually funny. Yeah, I'm actually like
way more creative than anyone that you all listen
to you fucking cocksucker. And I don't think
I even I don't think air arrogant is in my vernacular.
So go fuck yourself, you bozo. You know what?
You know what I like when you come here? Wait,
wait. I like when you call people cocksuckers
and Yeah, that's my favorite one. You call everybody
a cocksucker. These fucking douchebags get triggered
by it. Like who was it? It was like forgot. They're
like, oh, like it was like that nasty little
guy's like he was offended that I called him
a cocksucker in the sense that he was saying
I was implying that he's a gay man. And for me,
it's just like, dude, are we all not like Stern
fans? Like I got I got that from the Iron Sheik.
It's just like, yeah, I just call you a cocksucker.
Get over it, bitch. And the last one for now,
Brian Landon test stream member for one month.
Thank you so much, Brian Landon. My problem with
ABBA is her real support for Antifa. That's the
other thing. They just decide that I'm a woke
trainee Antifa person. Like I'm incredibly pro
law enforcement and I like can't stand Antifa,
but they just say that I do and OK. So we have
Cool Duckman has joined us. Cool Duckman, what
are your thoughts on what we've been talking
about tonight? For the most part I just want
to say Danny you're such a cool guy I like you
a lot and Deb and everyone. I love everyone and
Yeah, sorry Anyway, what is going on with the
eyelids cool duckman? Like what's what's is there
a problem that you have there? Well It's just
my eyelids are I don't know They're just messed
up All right. Well There you go. We'll bring
you back in a little bit. Cool, Duckman. Work
on that. Yeah, I will say this, though, real
quick. If you define people that go at you really
hard every day, the same people, they go hard
and they say the most hurtful thing. I'm a strong
believer that they're the ones that are hiding
something deeper than you could ever they could
ever talk about you. Oh, yeah. Going after me
went saying that I was this wretched criminal.
I was no good. And when I got to finally flip
the coin on them. They're the ones that had more
criminal records than I did. They're the ones
that were worse than I could be. So they do that
to take the spotlight off of them because they're
so guilty for all the bad they've done. And I
believe I'm a strong believer. If someone comes
after you too hard, especially about being tranny,
because deep down in their skin, that's probably
what they want to be. But they're too afraid
to come out and do the right thing. You understand?
So that's what I believe. That's when people
go really hard on stuff like that. So I know
there's so many people just like them in real
life that have like tried to sleep with me that
have the exact same values and look exactly the
same way as all these douchebags. Exactly. And
I want to show this. This was Clay Dabler made
that. It was the very first time. Oh, that's
great. I love that. That was me and John, the
very first things he ever made. He's a brilliant
visual artist. I'm so jealous of him. He's so
talented. I love Clay. Clay's my boy. Clay's
great. I wish Clay would do a stream and show
maybe like a sped up version of how a figurine
comes together. I would watch this. I mean, I
would too. I would too. And he doesn't seem to
want that attention. He said, you know, just
does his thing with John. He's been invited on
surely in different shows. And, you know, he
seems just like, like the lane he's in and I
have a wide jugs. What did daddy do from Vinny
Goomba? Another insult. One ninety nine. I think
this one's to you. Unlike I think a lot of you,
including Anthony Kumi and all of them, like
I have a great relationship with both my parents.
They love me. And yeah, sometimes people are
just trans and has nothing to do with that. If
you go to Greenville to visit your family, and
you see Anthony in a bar, are you going to buy
him a beer? I would be like, I would like see
if he wants a shot and then be like, let's go
and just like yell at each other. But he would
run away like a little bitch and that's true.
That's true. All people like that will run away.
As soon as they see you come through the door,
they'll be out the back door. Yeah. Dan, you
blew our wad. We only get 10 a month. That's
all right. Gifted five. Nice podcast. Guest is
in the audience. We learned the best part about
when you get when you somebody drops the membership.
Find out. Yeah. The great Kim Nicholson is in
the audience today. Kim. Kim is a good soul.
I like him. I flipped on. Kim I used to not like
her and then I saw her on like dab or something
and she was like so lovable and charming and
now I admit I was wrong about her. I love her.
Dan and Kim are going at it. There's some barbs
being traded. Dan likes the heat. Dan likes the
heat. He does. And I guess Panhandler you got
one. Thanks. You want to Handler? Panhandler.
Panny. Serenity now Mr. Panhandler. Kumia loves
teens. A very interesting screen name. Kim Nicholson
and Teal Hank. Oh, man, he is he's a stand up
guy. Teal's good guy hung out with him a couple
of times. I've been jaywalking fight over who
gets to blow my wad. Oh, all right. I'm gonna
be right back because I bought this new kind
of water. Mineragua, right? It's a sparkling
water. And I look at it and they go, where does
it where is it sourced? Where does it come from?
Well, it's basically glorified tap water from
what country to what country is not known for
good drinking water. Mexico, India. Yes, Mexico.
Mexico, Mexico. Yeah. Cape Coral, Florida. Yeah.
Cape Coral, Florida. It's water. Cape Coral can
be it could be a seedy place or but they got
some great places there too. I like you in Florida,
if it's my bit, is that something you say out
loud? Me? I'm in I'm in Florida. I'm in Florida.
I'm in Tampa. Huh? I'm in Naples. Joey, you're
like, seriously, your delivery is of the greatest,
not only in the double verse, like, you know,
when you have I'm just listening. And yeah, you
should do more and more shows of a hush up. We've
got Joe Biden, the president, former president,
Joe Biden in the audience. Crooked Joe. I was
turning a knife. Hey, crooked. Who said that?
I did. I know everything about you, from when
you were a young politician in Wisconsin. Huh?
Don't help me. Joe Biden, do you have any advice
for Joey Catalano running for president? Yeah,
just don't worry about it, man. Just die. Why
did you give Hunter your own son? Why did you
do that? Because I love my own son. What would
you do? I let him go feel the heat. Teach him
a lesson. Oh, you would? Yes. Well, I love my
son. So I love my son, too. I guess. But enough's
enough. I agree to disagree. Hunter Biden's fucking
rules. He does rule. I mean, that guy, that guy's
awesome. Your son's, he knows how to park. I
am pretty damn awesome. He is. Your son. You're
not that awesome. Your son. Yeah. Oh, sure. You're
a little bit old to be awesome. Yeah, he is.
I mean, come on, man. Come on, man. Joe, did
you like Barack Obama? Come on, take a shirt
off. Take a shirt off. Did you really like Barack
Obama? Yeah. He reminds me of a guy he wants
us to know. You know, if you can use one word
to describe him, if you could use one word to
describe him, President Biden, what would it
be? He's very eloquent. vocabulary. I got one
word that I'll describe Joe Biden for the time
he stepped in the office. What's your problem,
man? corrupt. Come on, man. Yes, that's that's
that's not even Oh, I just pooped my pants. Just
wait. How many? Oh, this is a good this is a
good Biden impression. So you can say I never
mind. I can't say that. I just jail. Where's
Dr. Jill today? Joe? What's what's Dr. Jill?
I just Jill just waited while we wait. We're
waiting for Jill. I'm just doodly doo. Yeah.
Anyway, was that a was that the karmic song,
Joe, or you doodly doo? I'm a huge dabbler, man.
I love it. Joey, what do you think of karmic
acts? You were kind of like, I'm going to tell
you, I had the most up respect for him when he
first came out. I thought he was going to be
the next best thing. I thought he had a lot of
balls. I thought he knew how to assess himself.
He wasn't afraid. How many balls does he have?
I don't know, Joe. I don't know. That's your
department. I just could tell you what I see
him as a man that I thought he was. He's the
one who brought up the balls, man. Well, Joe,
I mean, I can bring up a lot of things, but I
don't want to... Joe, listen, I want you to come
to my inauguration when I get in in 2028. I'd
like you to be sitting up there with me. Oh,
yeah. Yeah, I like to hang out with the other
corrupt people. Yeah. You know, Hey, Joe, my
friend dates. Well, I wants to know, did you
ever fall asleep while nailing Kamala? No. Next
question. Did she go under the desk like that?
Like model willing? When ski did for Bill Clinton?
Yeah, there was client me. Yeah, that wasn't
me. OK, that was the other guy. What? Hey, we
asked us presidents. We don't all love the same
dude. I don't have to have you talk to corn pop
recently. No, not really. He he's a real bad
dude. We all can't be quick. That's good. The
greatest president ever. Over. Yeah. Corn pop.
Yeah. You know, you know, I've got hairy legs.
You know, I heard that I heard that. Yeah. And
man, good my. That driver car. Oh, you got the
deep cuts with those reference. I know. All right.
Let's let's let's read through the let's catch
up on the super chats. All right. All right.
Vinnie Goomba back with another insult. We'll
bring it back in a few minutes. All right. We'll
give you a little break. Go get some ice cream.
Yeah. He could do a great impression. The best
part. The best part. Do you want me to say your
name or not? Yeah. Yes. Fine. The best part of
Naveed. is being a transmission. It's personality
sucks. It's ego is huge. Yeah, right. Everyone
is afraid of you. Such a talent. Well, some people
are arguing that I've destroyed the whole Dabbleverse.
No, you improved the Dabbleverse. God damn right
I have. I'm quality control, bitch. I'm quality
control, you fucking hack. People are asking,
people have been asking, and I know you've probably
answered this a million times, but have you,
so how do I put this? Have you personally struck
any channels? Yes or no? I struck one channel,
it was TSN, the basis of the strike was the exact
same basis that Shuly used a few weeks before
I did it when he struck Mentor Math. It has nothing
to do with fair use, it's about having private,
private content and broadcasting it on the stream.
And Shuly, a few weeks after I struck them, made
the same argument defending his strike. I never
struck anyone else again. No one else is doing
the specific thing that TSN did. And so I have
no reason to strike anyone else. If I struck
someone else, I would say so. And another tactic
of theirs is to imply that I'm some rogue striker.
I struck one person who struck someone else for
the exact same reason a few weeks before I did
it, and that's out. So you think they're weaponizing
those accusations to kind of just demoralize
and besmirch you and make you look like somebody
who's unhinged and dangerous or whatever? I mean,
you could say we could say I'm unhinged, but
like there no, like I understand the strategy.
It's like you have this trans person. Everyone
just wants one little thing to make it seem like
the trans person is coming in and being censorious.
The trans person is coming in and blocking or
on Reddit or all these things. And so nobody
wants to fact check that because they wanted
to hear that in the first place. It was confusing
to them the whole like six months before all
this started that I wasn't behaving that way.
They need me to be what they've imagined, because
most of them have never met a transgender person.
And Frankfurt, a friend of mine, he wanted to
me to ask you this before. And it's for you,
of course, of a smallest stated numerous times
his hate for his mother. And then this is a like
a political question. So if we don't usually
do politics, but feel free. Do you think that
correlates with his love for Israel and genocide?
I love that theory. I really do. I love you,
Frankfurt. Frankfurt's awesome. Shmuel's one
of Shmuel's many dilemmas. Well, it's not a dilemma
for him because he's oblivious to a lot of his
faults is that he's a particular type of boomer.
They just never were able to intake new information
after a certain point. Like, you know, they're
very Clintonian. They don't want to adjust to
the times. And there was a view of Israel in
the genocide that Shmuel grew up with, that he
was conditioned to believe. And because he's
so intellectually lazy and so arrogant, he's
not going to change his mind over something like
that. And so what? He's a dumb. He's a dumb boomer.
Is that you mean supporting Israel? Is that the
is that the mindset is that what you're talking
about? Yeah. Yeah. He's he's a Zionist. He's
a total Zionist. You know, Vinny Goomba 499.
Another insult coming in. Thank you very much.
Naveed's scary talent is hidden in the basement
of a cabin in Freaksville with a government job.
What a waste. Just a scary debater. The worst
of the worst. That's unfortunate because the
house that I'm renting probably costs more than
like six months of your rent. I live like right
next to like an amazing neighborhood. It's a
huge house. There's too much room in this house.
There's no basement. And yeah, I am a great debater.
What else did they say? Was there anything else
that they're worth responding to? The worst to
the worst. Oh, oh, oh, oh, okay. That's whatever.
That's a good. There's a transition. By the way,
it's not, it's not easy to get a government job
and I didn't get a government job because I got
a government job before I came out as a trans
woman. So I got it from the merit of my skills
and I've been promoted four times, including
just now. And I know that hurts you because I'm
just confident. I'm competent. I'm probably smarter
than you are and you're a little bitch and I'm
meaner than you and it hurts your feelings. So
you just have to like resort to just the stereotypes
because even though I'm not those stereotypes,
you just that's all you can cling on to. But
yeah, I'm not in the basement. I'm in a huge
house. I want to ask a question. I hope this
is I say this the right way. When did you first
know in your life? What? How old were you? Oh,
like I was like nine years old. Well, how about
how long did it take you to make the choice to
come out and be you and be free? I came out like
six years ago. So you sheltered it a lot of years.
Yeah, I never wanted to like, I never wanted
to subject my parents to that. That's respectful.
That's respectful. I hope that way everyone that
wants to say that he's coming out, it has these
negative effects. I used to be like a burnout
musician that couldn't even afford to like live.
to pay rent in someone else's house with four
roommates. After I came out, I now have my own
house. I've been promoted four times. I put myself
through college full time, worked while I was
doing it, and just graduated with honors. Congratulations.
I don't want to ask that creep. I don't want
to come off creepy when I ask that. That's why
I tried to, you know, ask me anything you want.
And honestly, it kills me to like Self or just
like brag like that. I would only do it in this
context Normally, I would never say anything
like I just said but joey you can always ask
me anything. I love you Yeah, feel free to brag
away. I love this fucking cocksucker. I got another
one I've been trying to get off my chest here
for a couple minutes Okay, so one of the things
and you ava you mentioned about people like we're
trying to kind of fuck with your life and then
you got promoted and you had good things going
on and you kind of fight through that. And I've
had some similar things. I don't want to get
into them, but I've had people that have tried
to fuck with me in myriad different ways. And
I think it frustrates them that they can't touch
me, which is kind of, which is kind of like the
thing that I love is like when you have a good
life and you're successful. There's a lot of
people that hide behind anonymity and masks and
they get off on trying to like hurt people and
say things. So like Vinny Goomba or whoever you
can keep. fucking, you know, and we'll, we'll
read it and we'll, we'll laugh about it because
it's, it doesn't, it doesn't really hurt us to
hurt. It doesn't feel like I was having an issue
with it. And I mean, I, frankly, we can even
gloss gloss over them if we want and not read
them, but, but, okay, sorry. But what I was going
to say is in, in this, and maybe I make it a
little bit of a leap here, but there's a lot
of people that are also creative people in the
dabble verse. that use anonymity and use different
ways to kind of shield themselves from criticism
and from kind of blowback. But then we'll be
the first to use personal attacks at other people.
And I'm talking about people that use filters
and masks and in all different cartoons and things
like that. They are some of the worst perpetrators
of like personal attacks and things like that.
But You can't really, you can't, you can't say
anything. And this was the big thing. Like Cardiff
is a good example. So Cardiff will talk about
Chad Zumok, everything about Chad Zumok's life.
He'll go through with a fine tooth comb, but
What do we know about cardiff? So like it's so
disingenuous to go through like joey It'll be
like if cardiff and I think you've had even some
issues maybe with him at some point I've I've
I've went toe to toe with cardiff many times,
but cardiff has also reached out and helped me
in many ways, too So I overlook cardiff. He's
a he's a freaking potato. You can't get serious.
He's not he can't take it too seriously, but
But to me it just feels it feels kind of very
lame I agree to hurl rocks over a wall and then
to like run away and and just keep doing that
and have that be your whole your whole shtick
it's it just feels very disingenuous and and
very um very lame to me I agree with you in one
of my like moments where I was like I started
watching your show was when you were on actually
on Chad show though like is you your line of
questioning with Cardiff because like um you
were the first person to like just hold him to
task about that. And that was one of the things
that's been interesting for me is realizing no
one has held these people to task like, like
that the way you did, which was very disciplined.
And he had nothing to back that up. And once
you start doing that with people like Cardiff,
they don't they act like a four year old that
like gets caught like what they're hitting the
cookie jar, they just like keep moving the goalpost.
And I think that area of exploration, like Cardiff,
like we keep giving them a pass, but he keeps
like when you pin him against the wall to defend
anyone, he always blames it on the other person.
But if you ask him what you asked him, it's like,
well, I wouldn't, well, I don't want anybody
doing that to me. And it's like, so how dare
you judge anyone else for the way that they respond
to that? Like it's people's privacy and their
families and, you know, and yeah, like if someone
wants to be anonymous and not engaged in this
area, the subject matter, go for it and be creative
in the space. Cardiff honestly isn't too creative
in the first place. And this is a big unexplored
gap with him. Who do you think is more talented?
Do you think Rocco is more talented than Carter?
I don't find either. I think Rocco was once talented,
but he's kind of just become a hack and he's
burnt out. I could tell you right now. He's out
of his game. He's definitely out of his game.
He's burnt out. Yeah. It's a point. You're in
your 40s and you're doing a puppet show to people
like every week. Like that's got to be soul sucking
at some point. I like. to keep doing that. I
mean, it's fun at some point. But at some point,
he must wake up and be like, what am I doing
with myself? I think he's at that point. I think
he's asked himself that many times. I think he's
at that point because people like me and John
are like, just jumping on him about that. Like,
there's this he took this video down. But like,
I like it was what he keeps referencing, like
about me pointing out his kid brought a Red Bull.
It's like I've been getting in his head for like
the last four weeks and each time he just gets
knocked to the ground. And then he's like, yeah,
I'm a loser and I'm a fat fuck. I'll find, John
has a clip saved on his phone. But yeah, I'll
send it to you. No, he's like, it's just boom.
No one has like just pointed that out. But like,
I've been here for like less than a year and
going on Shirley's show after like five or six
weeks, it was like, it only took like three or
four weeks to just come up with jokes right away
that are just like, John, blah, blah, blah. And
then it's honestly boring at that point. The
idea that someone like Rocco has been doing this
for like five years, just the same formula is
just, I don't know. I think the only reason he's
upset is because John's winning now for the first
time. But yeah, he doesn't have talent and neither
does Cardiff. I'm going to blast through these.
Vinny Goomba, 499. You ready, Ave? We got another
one. Okay. Proud to be friends with SJ and proud
to be the wart in the dabble verse. Can you go
any lower? You want to be a bottom for a PDF?
So how do you even? Jill, you just you want to
deal with that one for me? First of all, first
of all, like like like was said earlier, when
you when you when you do attach yourself to John,
you're going to be you're going to be ate up
and be hated. And that's what happened to me.
I I probably back in that time next to John was
the most trolled, hated, talked about guy next
to John, because I because I got messaged. You
made the leap to go be with him. Now you'll get
treated like him. But you know what? I came out
OK. I came up, I look at it like this, but you
fool still gave you still would give me twenty
five hundred a month and super chats every month.
So I'm doing something right. Yeah. You're getting
paid for it and just so so. So go ahead. John,
John, John made it made a decent living. And
I mean, running money or shooing money. But but
I tell you what, John made close to 100 grand
each time he podcast. And he didn't even try.
And they get they only feel sorry to control
them. Who cares? I don't care how the money comes
in. He's still bringing it in. You know, so who's
the dummy? Who's is the dummy? Also Vinny, you
have no idea what it's like to just grow up being
like brown in South Carolina and then come and
then coming out to your family like in your 30s
Like you have no idea like what that's like you
think you're gonna hurt after all of that You
think you're gonna hurt my feelings with any
of the shit you all say like go suck my tits.
You fucking bitch I have a your relationship
with stuttering John Would you say your friendship
with him, like kind of not that you have like
a motivation necessarily, but, but why you wanted
to kind of be aligned with John, is it personal?
Is it strategic? Cause you're kind of sort of,
you know, you're in the mic, the dabble verse,
you just kind of want to strategically align
with them. What's kind of like your, your motivation
to align yourself with somebody like John and
knowing kind of the baggage and the attention
that it brings. I think you relate with this,
and it's just true for me. I don't look at humans
or friends strategically, and I've been in music
scenes and all kinds of things where my peers
do that and you see people. I just don't have
that part in my brain. I'm sure I have a gajillion
flaws. I don't do it that way. Like John is like,
I talked, John had been on a show three years
ago, or no, four years ago when it first came
out. And the way a lot of my friends found out
was just John randomly having me on his show.
So I have a history with him, and then he had
me on this year, this last year. And no, there's
no strategy with him. I don't have an aspiring
career in podcasting. I have my own career. I've
been going to school for something. I'm working
towards something independent of that. And I
think that helps in these situations. I'm not
using John for anything. And John's smart and
he probably recognizes that I'm not using him
for anything. And that's all. By the way, that
makes all these like two things. They all lose
their mind when they don't when they realize
like there's no like motivation. There's not
like I'm ulterior motive. And oh, my God, she's
trying to clout chase or this, that or the other
thing. It's like, no, you're just kind of like
doing something for fun. Like for me, this is
kind of like a hobby. Like it's fun. And if you
make a little bit of money, OK, that's great.
But I'm not going to like quit my day job. You
know, I'm just going to absolutely enjoy it.
And I used to make videos and I'm familiar with
how to shoot things and make short films and
all that. If I was gonna do that, if I was gonna
want anything for myself, I would do it my own
way. I wouldn't piggyback onto John for it. You
know what I'm saying? I don't need John to do
that. Everything that I'm saying around John
is what I believe. I agree with him on it. I
know that that show is only gonna be that one
dimension to discuss things in. And that's fine.
But I also love coming here and talking... In
the dynamic of your show and other people's show
i'm flying where i'm at and i'm not using anyone
for anything And i'm proud of that. I tell you
what I gotta admit this. This is nice. You guys
do a great show i'm having actually a really
good time Everything's jarring good. We're having
a good conversation and you know I i'm not i'm
not funny i'm not a comedian ever tried to be
i've never tried to be that like everybody says
You know, I never tried to be anybody I never
tried to write anybody's coattail karmic made
the most dumbest ridiculous thing say i'm right
Buddy, I was well established in this verse way
before you were even thought of. I mean, the
bottom line is 20 years from now, I am attached
to the devils. But if they ever do a documentary
endeavor, I promise you I'll be one of the characters
named. Oh, yeah. You're you're you're royalty.
That mean anything? No, it don't mean your first
ballot. Hey, Joey, like you already you've already
earned your stripes at this point. You know,
like. I like I know this it's it's an attack
on you but to me one of the reasons karmic is
funny is like he has this like accidental way
to like have the it's not even accidental but
like he has like these hooks with the way he
insults people and like for some reason he just
locked in on jailbird for you and it's just fascinating
that he just locked in on at least I know I can
go to prison and I can handle myself accordingly
and I took did my time and I came home and I
can't handle living in his parents yard without
having a meltdown. He'd been out of a town of
300 people. I've been all over the United States
and a few other places. I've traveled a lot.
So he hasn't been out of his backyard. He couldn't
last a day in your world and what you've been
through, man. That's the bottom line. I got a
big challenge coming up when my daughter gets
home in 139 days as of today. That's going to
be a big challenge for me. I love her. I forgive
her. My wife forgives her. We still can't we
still got to know that she tried to kill us,
you know, and and and I would never turn my back
on her She's my blood and and and she worries
about that. She you know, she's Are you going?
One day I told her is this you're gonna remember
it every day of your life as you get older It's
gonna get worse for you because she's guilty.
But she's got the guilt sink in it She she says
she's sorry to me five times a day because she
called me Uh on the radio video relay at least
three times a day, you know in in those three
calls, she'll tell me at least five times in
each conversation how much she's sorry and hopes
that I'm really forgive her. I do. It was a mistake
that happened. Thank God no one died. You know,
thank God that Christina didn't die because Christina
was in critical and did she did lose a stop.
She did stop breathing. And while she was in
the medevac and I brought her back and then she
went right into surgery for many hours. She was
stabbed 15 times and It was it was a brutal night
that 41 minutes of hell that I have to live every
day in my head I dream about it. I think about
it I still have nightmares about it because who
thinks their kids are gonna first of all What
person thinks their their children that they
love and have good reason is ever gonna you let
you you're gonna have a guard up for your own
children. I never anticipated something like
this ever. Hey, look at look at Rob, Rob and
Michelle Reiner. And they the signs they should
have seen coming. Now, Joey, your daughter, was
she schizophrenic? Were there mental issues?
My daughter is profoundly deaf since birth. So
she struggled very hard growing up. She was kicked
out of the Florida deaf for the school at a very
young age because she was a she was a very angry,
like the fight child and she struck a teacher
in seventh grade. And I went through many meetings
and hearings with the state of Florida. I couldn't
give them the budget to let her back in. I go,
you're basically burying my daughter. She's profoundly
deaf. She needs a deaf school because she was
an A student. If I put her in a mainstream, she's
going to fail and she's going to be her life
is over. They would not budge. She was banned
from there. Now, I could have I could have went
back to Illinois and put her there, but they
were going to make sure that all the other deaf
schools were alerted. She had a lot of anger
issues. So I knew she had issues of anger, anger
where she could possibly hurt somebody. That
was the capability because she tried to hurt
her brother with an axe when she was when she
was nine years old. You know, and if I didn't
grab the axe out of her hand, she would have
cut his arm off. You know, so she but she struggles
with frustration because being deaf, she wants
to be heard. She just wants to fit in. And people
made fun of her. You don't know how many fights
and how many times I got arrested for fighting
in a restaurant for someone making fun of her
cackling as a deaf person. I mean, I would get
out of my seat and I would I would just start
beating someone at the table until I waited for
the police to come. I bet that's my child. She
was a baby. But she did have an anger. And my
mistake was my son used to tell me just because
she's deaf don't mean you got to give her your
way to her every day. She's just deaf. She still
she still needs to have consequences. I had some
felt some kind of guilt of her being deaf and
felt that it was somewhere down the line. My
response was Dr. Tommy was ridiculous. Nothing
you did. None of your sperm did it. None of that.
You know, was it the drugs and mice? Did you
ask? Did you ask? I asked the doctor. Did my
sperm do this? Yes, I did. I said, being polluted
with the drugs, did they do this? I walked around
with guilt thinking maybe I caused it. He said,
no, you did not. It's impossible. You did not.
Are you able to not have expectations of what
you want her to do or save on her visit coming
up? I was very, very, very, very... We had a
very long talk many a times the last couple of
months. I told her that... Yes, we forgive you.
I don't try to think about it. You don't have
to worry about that. That I'm going to turn my
back on you. I did say this. If you fall to the
other side like you did before, then that's the
only thing that will pull me out and never to
help you again. You must stay on a straight and
narrow. You must forget about anybody from your
past life. Any bad friend, any bad boyfriend.
There's no room for mistake here. You're going
to we're going to get you out. You're going to.
She wants to get her GD. She went that she wants
to go to. She's very good on the computer. She's
very fast assigned to. There's but she said she
sheltered because she's on her record. She's
convicted for attempted murder. So she can't
be around. She can't go to parks around children.
She can't rent apartments because they're going
to do background check and she's she's she's
got conviction for attempted murder and aggravated
assault with a deadly laboratory to a to a temporary
she knows it's temporary. By law. She's not supposed
to be any we lifted that they put a note You
know, we lifted that the very first week that
she was arrested. We didn't want that because
we didn't want to turn her back up. Christina
was I was just dating now. She nearly killed
Christina. Christina had a lot of pain for two
years going back and forth from rehab and all
that. And I told her point like, listen, what
am I allowed to ask you what she did she attack
you all like with her? I'll tell you that one
second. I will tell you that I went to Christina
and I love her to death. To me, I wish I would
have met her 30 years ago and had my children
with her because it took me three times to find
Real love and and and i'm no i'm no prize to
live with because i'm setting my old ways. Um,
I got that Sicilian mentality So sometimes I
I I have that old ways that about how I feel
about women their place in society I I was raised
and taught that but i've learned to change that
that I don't want her walking behind me or in
front of me We're not 50 50. We're 100 100 walking
side by side to everything we do and that's how
I that's how we treat each other That's why our
marriage works, but I told her listen If you
want to prosecute my daughter, I'm not going
to, I still want to marry you because she deserves
to go to prison for 30 years. That's what I said.
The cop asked me point blank. Do you feel your
daughter should go to prison? I said, me? I said,
as much as I hate to say this, she tried to kill
a human being. She needs to have repercussions.
He goes, and then you know what the cop told
me? I'm going to, he goes, you're probably not
going to believe I'm going to say this. He goes,
I imagine she's been in prison her whole life
being profoundly deaf in the way people treated
her. So I think that she deserves a second chance.
I was blown away when a cop told me that. Christina
looked at me. She says, I live. I love your daughter
like she's my own. I'm going to go fight for
her. Christina got her 10 years probation without
a day in jail. Now, what happened was five years
in her probation. She was with some drug addicts.
My daughter was on drugs. I was abusing her.
Don't let a man put your hands on you. Beat the
shit out of him. I don't care. She knows how
to fight very well. And he put his hands on her.
She grabbed him and she beat him to a pulp. He
called the police on her and violated her probation
and she got seven years in prison. Damn, she's
a badass. Wow. She is a badass. But in the wrong
way. Rehabilitated. Are you are you guys? I do.
I think prison scared the hell out of her. I
got to believe I know my daughter. I know when
she's bullshitting me and I know in sincerity
she swears up and down. I never it was hard for
my daughter. My daughter was most was raped by
a guard in there in the beginning. She was beat
up by guards. Other girls. The fact that she
hasn't stepped forward to fight anybody because
if she gets caught with it, with fighting or
hurting anybody, she's going to catch it on charges
state or the rest of her life. It's probably
hard to take care of herself too. If need be
like, I told her not to do anything unless it
was self strictly self -defense and make sure
it's in front of a camera so that she does. Cause
if she was to hurt anybody, she could get another
charge and that will land her probably the rest
of her life in prison. Cause she's got two serious
charges. There's no room for error for her. Now
what happened that night? Um, yes, she just,
I came out of the bedroom and she was in a She
was in one of my typical Heather moods. And I
said, would you just go to bed? She kept trawling
at me about something. I go, Heather, I'm going
to, I don't want to hear this down. He's signing
me. She's getting on my face. He's spitting at
me. And I'm like, Heather, we'll talk about this
tomorrow. Just go to bed, do dad a favor, put
it to rest. I went back to the bedroom. She was
out pacing in the hallway between her bedroom.
Our bedroom was the back bedroom. Her bedroom
was here, the hallway in the bathroom. Christina
was in the, taking a shower, getting ready for
bed. When Christina opened the door, Had a towel
running to go to the bedroom to come into our
bedroom to get changed into her pajamas My daughter
unleashed the knife on her before christina could
even could even see what happened She stabbed
her four times in the in the back and in the
chest back and chest and it continued repeatedly
did it I heard when I heard the scream It wasn't
a normal like someone's arguing scream. It was
the most horrendous Like dying scream that someone
was calling for help. I ran out of the bedroom
so fast saw Christine on the floor and I looked
at my daughter. What the hell did you do? He
immediately. And I swear to you, she was her
eyes were bulging red. She can't speak. It's
like the devil had possession of her. She didn't.
She was foaming at the mouth. And she's she took
the knife on me. I was a Michael Myers type fucking.
I had to. I got two deep cuts back here. I had
to put my fingers in there. It was like a waterfall
just to stop. Oh, my God. Wow. I'm scooting on
the floor. I got to Christina. I got her to get
up. Now Christina the rope came off and I tried
to get her out of the house I don't want Heather
to hurt her no more and I go out to protect you
from this point on Heather came out again. I
should I'd leave them for the night But took
four more shots for um, then I fell at those
four I was I went down for a minute And she went
over to Christina and turned and looked at me
with these beers that started stabbing Christina
in the head Oh my god, and then I got I don't
know where I got the strength. I picked myself
up How big is your daughter, if you don't mind
me asking, like, is she a large girl? She was
a very beautiful girl. She was about average
about about 140, weight 135, 140 at the time
when she was 21. How tall? She's about 180, she
says now. How tall is she? She's about five,
five, four, five, five, I think. She was a very
beautiful girl. She's got a great body. She's
very personable, but she's just always had anger.
I got whatever got me to get up to make her stop.
I kind of swung at her enough to knock her back.
And I grabbed Christina and I threw her to the
door and I said, get the hell out of your run.
And she goes, no, we're not. We're not leaving
you here. Go. If I don't see you again, just
live. And I was ready to die at that point because
I knew that it's my turn now. She's going to
finish me off. And all of a sudden she just stopped.
She stared at me for about five minutes. Her
eyes like went back to normal. She turned saw
me on the floor bleeding and started crying like
a baby. Did I do that to you? Did I do that to
you? And I thought it's okay. It's okay. So listen,
Heather, I'm getting ready. I'm dipping here.
I'm ready to I'm ready to go. I'm about ready.
The lights are out for me. And I'm trying to
tell her it's silent. I got blood all over. And
I'm trying to sign but I took my fingers out.
It's pouring out. And I'm like losing blood like
crazy. So I told her, listen, the police are
coming. Don't run. Please don't run. I want you
to go outside and sit and wait for the police
and i'll i'm gonna call dominic your brother
I don't think dad's gonna be around and tell
her the better what happens No matter to be on
your side through this trial And if christina
dies, you're probably gonna go to jail for the
rest of your life But hopefully that they don't
give you the death penalty, you know what i'm
saying? And and she didn't even know what she
did. So she took the knife Right there and she
stabbed herself in the throat How difficult is
it to communicate with her her being deaf? I
was a horrible I was horrible at that part. I
was always working. So I didn't learn fluid sign
language. I learned to, she used to get very
frustrated because I didn't take the time to
learn fluid sign language. I promised her when
she comes home now that I'm going to be more
advanced. And, and, and, and she could tell by
the, how close this, our talks are every day.
And then she says, you know, she says, dad, you're,
you're my best friend. You always have been,
I love you to death. And, and, uh, I said, Heather,
all you gotta do is this. I already know you're
remorseful. I already know that you're feeling
the pain. I love you like the day you were born.
Christina loves you that parts over only the
three of us know what happened that night For
whatever reason that you felt that you had to
do that Somebody had put her head that we were
gonna throw her on the street and leave her on
the street We didn't love her no more somebody
and her head now I think it's a little more to
that it had about hours after the divorce came
in I got the papers from me being divorced from
her mother It happened exactly 12 hours after
the papers were delivered to my house the final
divorce papers Joey I have a question for you
Now she's gonna be coming home Are aren't you
frightened? Has she shown progress? I don't think
that's a lot of progress. I don't think I'd be
able to, you know, sleep with both eyes closed
and and not have a gun next to me or something.
Honestly, I don't. After that, I carry the gun
everywhere I slept. I for the for the first five
years, I couldn't take a shower and a gun sitting
in the shower, because when someone comes at
you like that, again, I never had my guard up
for my own children. Never expected this to happen.
So now at this point, the PTSD collected. And
I could I I everything had to be locked. No one
could come in the bathroom with me. Christina
was nobody was allowed to be. And I had to have
someone make sure that they were right in the
vicinity, making sure that that no one's coming
in. I kept the gun on the soap dish. I kept another
gun inside the counter because I said to myself,
I don't care who comes through that door. Everybody
tries to do this to me again. I'm going to point
blank. Shoot him. I had an opportunity to kill
Heather. I had an opportunity. I couldn't do
it. I'll be honest with you. Anybody else I would
have shot dead. Right. I had the gun and I was
going to kill her. And I couldn't do it. I looked
at my little all I saw was my little daughter
when I pulled the gun on her and told her I was
going to kill you. I couldn't do it. I'll be
I'll tell you right now. I couldn't do it. I
faced my child. I couldn't do it. Yeah. Christina
made it across the neighbors and collapsed. And
a neighbor wouldn't open a door. She threw the
phone out and she's on the floor passed out.
The ambulance landed on the street for her. She
was so critical. And then they they took me a
mile and heathered mile. They airlifted us from
the hospital two miles on a road. I never went
critical. I was always I was in step down. I
see you. I got out after three days. I had eight
wounds. Most of them were flesh wounds, except
for the one that hit the artery back here. That
was the one here in this one. But yeah, Heather,
you almost died getting stabbed. You had the
health issue recently. So you've been pretty
close to death a couple of times, Joe. Well,
my younger years, I've had a lot of stuff happen
to me. I did a lot of things. I grew up in Chicago
in a very rough place and I did whatever it took
to feed my family. I've done things that most
people couldn't even fathom to do, even though
nobody believes it. But I could tell you, I got
the battle wounds and I got the jail marks and
the scars to prove it. But I don't care. I've
done a lot of things. Are you circumcised? Yes,
I am. Yeah, I am. That's a good question. I just
won $500. Yeah, I am. Someone thinks I'm not
circumcised. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
Because I am circumcised. The proliferation of
Shmuel Buckman's in the medical. I think Shmuel's
done. I don't think he circumcised. You know
what? Let me get to some super chats. I don't
I don't mean to cut you off, Joey. I got to do
a palate cleanser. Nothing cleanses the palate
more than some nice insults. Yes. Well, I don't
think this insult. Dates watch. Ava, do you consider
yourself a 2026 Lydia Dietz? You give Beetlejuice
vibes. I don't know who that is. Is that the
Winona Ryder character? I think so. Sorry to
cut you off, the rabbi said. That was the Winona
Ryder character in Beetlejuice. That's actually
a pretty cool character. That is a cool character.
Yeah, that's a compliment. People say that all
the time and it's like, I'm not... Insulted by
that. I don't think anything. You have thick
skin. I don't think anything insults you. Honestly,
it really doesn't. People hurl some terrible
stuff toward you. But Gino says Ava has a huge
hog for a dollar. Ninety nine. There you go.
You got a compliment there. Was that the real
Gino? Yeah, it is. It is. It is. Oh, dude, that's
fucking really, dude. Yeah. What do you know
about a five year old compared to him? Oh, yeah.
that's a compliment we had to break up the weird
that there's like just this subculture just like
that or did you see i was got a huge like hog
and hot like it is it's weird it's weird because
people i you know it's weird how people uh fixate
on other people's genitals am i like am i not
getting it in that it's normal for them to make
that joke because i'm trans or like I, it's just
weird. You know, I had a huge hog. That would
be a compliment for me, but maybe not for you.
I don't know. It's just so prevalent. I think
she knows Biden. Do you have a huge hog? She
knows just like, Oh yeah. Do you like to juggle
balls? They're huge. Huh? Have you juggled a
lot of balls in your time? No, I can't juggle.
Okay. You, did you do any cock gazing when you
were in the, in the white house? You seem to
be a very sick sated. Yes, I am. I love cock.
I love it. Cut that. Have you ever had a gay
experience? Me? Yeah. No, never. No. Not even
for drugs? Nope. No, never. I've got a lot of
gay friends. I've always respected. I've never
ever went after any of I never insulted them.
I've had a real hit on me in my younger years.
You didn't really have one of those nights where
it's just like a hand of God. Am I all my my
grandbabies drop dead? I swear to God. He would
tell us if he did. I would be ashamed of it.
I love facts. My thing is, I've been hit on by
a couple of them. Wanted to take me home for
one night. And my response to them was, I like
you, but I'm just not your type. And as long
as we understand that, me and you can be best
friends. And they never went past those boundaries.
I was very upfront. I never mean to nobody like
that. I don't care what you are. If you're a
good soul and we're hanging out. I don't care.
I don't care what you do when you go home. It's
your business. I don't care. But, you know, of
course, they're not going to know if you are
unless they hit on you. So I wasn't offended
by that. You know, that didn't offend me. I know
I my wife says I'm still good looking at 60,
but I was I was hot in my 20s. I promise you
that, you know. Well, Joey, you're getting back
there. You're you're you're set down is kicking
in. It's working well. Yes, thank you. And Ava,
you want to get one more psycho cool from Oregon
for ninety nine. That's a good band name, Psycho
Ghouls from Oregon. I like it, too. This is a
mild one. Ava puts her cam high so you can't
see the Adam's apple. The camera's as low as
it can be with the monitor. I put my camera.
I don't think I have an Adam's apple. Is that
weird that I don't have one? Like, I didn't get
it removed or anything. I just don't have it.
Here's my question. Are you comfortable who you
are? Absolutely. And you know what? That's all
I want to hear. Fuck the rest of excuse my language.
Yeah, that's yeah. Fuck the rest. You know what?
I honestly, Ava, I can tell you're comfortable
in your own skin. Otherwise, I really wouldn't
want to read these things that I'm reading to
you. Oh, you're right. No, no. Don't ever. And
I'm like sitting here. I just realized I'm sitting
here reading them like so cheerful. No, no, no.
No, they're good. No, everyone gets a good. Like
I said, you know, I've watched you on different
shows and you can handle yourself very well.
You're thick skinned. You're based. You're awesome.
Why don't you do your own show? I'm just curious.
Like what have you have you considered doing
it? Like, I mean, you seem like you could you
could pull it off easily. I mean, you seem you're
a compelling person and you can talk and is it
something you're interested in? Thank you for
that. I wasn't doing it because I was like full
-time working in school, but I just graduated
a few weeks ago, and then I'm still processing.
I have like this half a day now that I can just
do what I want, so I've been considering it.
I wouldn't want to do, I don't know, I have a
few ideas, but I wouldn't want to do anything
like - Ava, are you studying the dabble verse?
Because you - majoring in psychology? Are you
studying this weird kind of world of misfits
and, and freaks and whatever you want to call
everybody here? Are you like, this would be a
good case study? I mean, I'll be honest. No,
because like the most disappointing thing about
people here is like, it's like almost a failure
to just deter, like conclude that things are
projection. But some all of this is so So like
99 % of this is all projection. So it's not even
interesting on a psychology level it made me
like interested in like I never use reddit or
anything until like six months it made me interested
in like privacy and law in those terms and doxing
and and like where the US sits compared to other
countries and like how to navigate those it's
made me interested in just like what why are
people able to get away with like certain things
that like, you know, like Cross a certain line.
Like why, why, why, how. Right. Thanks Joe. Thank
you. Ava, I noticed something different. I changed
it. You took the dick pic down. Yeah, because
we're dealing with children. They're just going
to. Yeah. But now you pointed out. So they're
just going to. Yeah. Even the show network will
probably try to strike me now. They're short
on material. I mean, I mean, good Lord, no one's
talking about the Shuli show lately. What have
you heard somebody talk about that? I mean, what
are they doing these days? Watch the Shuli show.
Dude, they've tried like they tried doing this
thing where it's like. music that reminds us
of things. And it's just like, but they have
to do it on rumble because they're just breaking
copyright law there by playing licensed music.
And then they have like some like fat person
and then they have like some whack packer read
the Howard rejected this guy. They do like the
locales and that nobody wants nobody likes it.
And so that's what's so great about getting to
be with john and just telling them that they
don't they don't have any skill sets because
now it's getting it got in their head and so
they keep trying these things but whenever they
do it no one watches their show i always love
the people they say they're on rumble um we're
happy to be on rumble and we can no you're not
no you're nobody's happy to be on rumble right
i'm sorry i mean hopefully we don't end up uh
relegated there but uh day to us says joe sniffs
off his hair is that true joe I sniff everyone's
hip. Wait, that's not even none of your business.
I like it's way too nuanced of a point to make
about like the one time I structurally show,
but I'm normally a very like libertarian libertarian
about these types of things. Like I was a person
that was trying to defend Alex Jones and they're
trying to throw him off YouTube. And so I see
like rumble as an asset for that type of material.
But like when you're looking at like someone
like surely what he wants. It yeah, he doesn't
want to be on rumble, you know, he wants to tell
you what I know about already I can tell you
one thing I learned from Ava. She's a very passionate
loves a loves kissing in a deep deep deep passionate
way. What's going on? Am I right? Me? Yes. Yeah.
Joey, you got a nice long walk on the beach.
Yeah. And any other place in my life, I'm like
the opposite of my walk. Joe, do you like what
walks on the beach? Romantic walks on the beach?
Oh, romantic walks. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm a very
romantic person when it comes to that. I'm Joe.
I believe in I believe in satisfying way before
I need to be. I believe in man. No, fuck you,
prop that drum off like he's playing speed metal.
And so all of you idiots just hear the double
kick rolls. You're like, oh, that they're better
drummer than Ava. Like you try writing an original
drum part. Yeah, like that's like creative. That's
like yeah, you try my drum parts You could anybody
could that what spends six months trying to learn
and Scott's awesome But his drum parts is just
a sport try to learn my fucking drum parts you
fucking bitch. Hey Joey I want to go back to
one thing you just said so you said you take
you take care of other things first before I
didn't play the drums on that show. They played
a track and they didn't have the levels right
and they played it out of the left speaker so
you couldn't hear the stereo double kicking it.
You're a fucking bitch. You're not one of those
Italian guys. Sorry Dan, sorry. No, shut up.
Like they say in the Sopranos, like Uncle Junior
didn't do certain things. You're not one of those.
Oh, no, no, no. Listen. I'll destroy all of you
motherfuckers on drums. See, I'm a one man, I'm
for one woman. I don't even look at it. My wife
will tell you, I don't even get I if I see something
walking. I don't even give that vibes that I
am very loyal. I won't. I will never sleep out
my marriage, but I give 100. I don't sleep. I
marriage. You know, I just won't do it. Now,
in my past, in my younger years, because my other
marriages were not solid ground. Now I've done
a lot of things. You just said you were a loyal
man. I am. I grow. I've grown with my. Yeah,
I have more than one marriage, man. I said if
I ever got someone that I knew love was real,
I would always I would change my whole outlook
and never do her wrong. And that's what I did.
I kept my promise. Yeah, you have to do her in
some correct way, man. I make love to my wife.
I never say I fuck my wife. I make love to my
wife every time. Oh, wait. What's the difference?
There's a big language as we like to say, right?
Right. I don't think my wife is a fuck. She's
my lover and my best friend. So I don't ever
use those words. That sounds gay, man. But it
is, you know. Get another random super chat here
soft weekly for five. Is it true? The nice podcast.
Nice stupid podcast. Hard daily to soft week.
Soft daily to Joe, Joe, Joe. President Joe knows
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Joe, do you find it anymore? Huh? Do you even
find it anymore? Just find what? You know what?
The clitoris dummy. No, not the clitoris. Is
Dr. Jill like when you go down on her president
Biden? Well, did Yeah. Is it true you had an
affair with Michelle Obama? You know, like black
women. But my my my daughter really, I mean,
she likes when yeah. His daughter, like, said
that that he groped her, didn't she? Wow. I didn't
say that. Who said it had hours with, you know,
well, she's insane, you know, never doing in
the Lincoln room. Yeah. Well, yeah. What happened
with Ashley? What happened with Ashley, President
Biden? What happened with Ashley Biden? I don't
know. She had a falling out with her sister Whitney
or something. I don't think. No, she didn't say
Whitney. She said that. She said that you did
that. No, no. It was something about a watch
and then the horse. You set a timer and you said
suck my dick to completion in like 60 seconds.
No. That's what you said to her. No, Whitney.
Whitney stole Ashley's horse. It's Ashley. No,
it's not the horse. Oh, I see what you're doing.
Yeah. President Biden, how does it feel that
you're going to go down in history as the worst
president in the history of the United States?
He really is the worst. Come on, man. You really
are the worst. Fuck you, asshole. You were the
worst. You were the worst. I hate you. You were
pretty bad, Biden. You went 20 years too late.
First of all, good job stealing the first. Did
you ever poop your pants while talking to the
pope? Yes. You look like the Pope and he's dead.
Yeah. But you got to think about this guy. Here's
a guy that drives around with a glass bulletproof
car and he's supposed to be the the holiness
of the world. But he's afraid that somebody is
going to snipe him. See, you know that he's in
a car anymore. He's a fucking senile bozo. Yeah.
And you know that the Vatican is the most corrupt
place in the world. They launder more money for
the mob in the Vatican than any other place in
this world. Oh, he on your religion. Oh, boy.
You can't even know this shit, man. They speak.
They they're all over there in Spain, speaking
Italian and how many how many plots can you do
right now? How many plots can you do right now?
I just did 20 right now. Oh, but he doesn't do
pull ups. He wears them. Ah, there you go. All
right. That's a good one. Nailed it. That's good.
Hey, no, we don't think it's a real Joe Biden.
Joe I'm gonna put you to sleep for right now
put a lid on that. So there we go and soft weekly
for five dollars Is it true that nice stupid
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I've heard you already have an account set up.
I told soft weekly I'll help them open beta tests
is it's it's basically to Compete I guess with
melted soup. I saw it. It looks good We're not
doing, I don't do business with Melton, so we're
not doing it. But, uh, it's got, you actually
can set up basically super tips. Well, if you're
tech savvy enough with some of these other, uh,
what's your take on, what is your take on Melton
Dan? Um, in what regard? Just as your overall
assessment. Um, I don't have really any beef
per se with Melton, if that's where we're going.
But I, but I would just say that I think Just
like a lot of the characters and this is actually
I think would pertain to a lot of the people
I like to call the gatekeeper class of the dabble
verse. These people that have like the larger
shows. It's not necessarily like a true meritocracy
that they're doing anything that's like so amazing
or talented, especially with certain people.
Some are more talented than others. Like I think
Dookie does have talent. I think Carl is good,
like a radio program guy. for what he does. And
Melton has things that he does well, but a lot
of it is just the time that you've been doing
it, the time you've put in, like Merge, Melton,
Carl, these guys have all been doing it five,
10, some cases 15, 20 years, and you build up
an audience over time. It doesn't happen overnight
that you get like 900 live viewers. Unless you're
going to do like the crying karmic thing where
you're like everything's performative and you
have a gay character or then you cry and then
it's all, you know, basically you're being a
clown really. I understand you're respecting
the hierarchy of it, but outside of that frame,
how do you assess him as a good talent and as
a broadcaster? I would say that It's a good question.
I'll ask Deb. Deb, go first. I'm sorry, you don't
have to end me there. No, it's a good question.
I'll let you hear what Deb has to say first.
Melton's been doing it for 20 years. It's 2006,
correct? Is that when he first came on? 2005,
2006, around that. Yeah. I respect him because
to me, it takes a lot to be able to carry a show
for five, six, four, whatever many hours as a
solo person. I'm not at that point. I need people
to riff off and bounce off and have a discussion
with. So anybody that can do it and isn't just
like, you know, no offense to Karmic, but isn't
just crying one moment and doing word salad.
He puts together an excellent show. Do you have
you ever watched five hours of full? When the
topics are what I am interested in so There's
a lot of topics. I did I got tired of the this
is it like another John Everybody was going after
steeltoe and so that was the guy they all when
John wasn't around especially that was the guy
they all pivoted toward was Aaron and and again
I get tired of anybody that makes fun of one
guy, no matter whether I like that guy or not,
I get bored very easily. Melton's a good broadcaster.
He makes me laugh. I find him entertaining. All
of these shows are for different audiences and
some crossover. Ultimately, the market decides.
We have a disagreement on that one because to
me, Melton, I know you didn't ask, so you can
tell me to shut up. I would rather watch Karmic.
just like if if if I if I'm like I'm drinking
coffee in the morning and it's like I'm presented
with Melton is doing the show or comic I'm like
putting comic on and it's I just he his and it's
not because I respect him but it's just I don't
know he's just so much more interesting to me
like I mean Melton just is like a fat slob know
-it -all that just like he's just like Carl and
he just like is like hey look at That's that
is just that interesting to me. I'd rather watch
some of that comic like just really have no ability
to like manage his life and seven meltdowns live
on camera. Right? Right. I would but to each
their own to each. I don't watch it all the time.
But sometimes there's topics he hits on. But
yeah, what he you know, as your friend in the
chat said, you know, he's kind of arrogant at
times, you know, very arrogant. And I feel like
I don't get it with him. Carl is arrogant. Carl
has gotten a big head. you know, Melton can be
arrogant at times, but when you meet him in person,
he's really nice. I'm sure he's a nice guy. I
understand that he's done. I'm sorry to interrupt
you. Go ahead. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's
a nice guy. And I think a lot of all of us are
a little over the top when we're, when we're
on a stream, but when you get everybody in the
same room, everybody, most people can be, most
people looking at you, Brandon, most people can
be civil, but like, That's the thing that I feel
like is a disconnect here is that half of the
people are like, hey, do I like this guy? And
then the other half are assessing it about like,
is this entertainment? And like, I'm sure Melton's
a nice person. But like, I don't I feel like
we're kind of like in 2026, like not even only
in the doublers, like we have access to so much
content that we don't need like a filter of like
the people like Carl and Shuley or Melton analyzing
things and we can get the raw feed of these people
ourselves because we're all smart enough to like
have our own opinions and one of the things I
learned that made me kind of just turn against
Carl and Shuley and all that was like the moment
I realized that they weren't even like that they
were selectively editing things and misrepresenting
them and it's like I don't want your propaganda
like you fucking cocksuckers like like I don't
want to see things through Carl's lens or Melton's
lens or whoever and and it's better to just be
like a free spirit in it and just like Sometimes
you're like like me and karmic were going at
it and then but now like he just went at tuki
and he was absolutely entertaining to me and
it's like the beauty of that is like I don't
because I don't have any loyalty or or Right
filter a filter. It's just like I'm watching
karmic right now and he's being entertaining
right now I'll watch when he's like being a douchebag.
Oh my comics being a douchebag What's your opinion?
I don't need carl in his fucking hairspray to
like tell me what's going on What's your true
opinion on karmic though? Is he all entertainment
or is he really broken? He's absolutely broken
and it's entertaining. That's a little bit for
show though. He is definitely like a theater
kid. I'll tell you what Timing his timing is
and he knows how to reel that money in he's one
of the top earners since day one He knows how
to read the fans. He's entertaining. We all like
to see if we do it. People might not admit it,
but we all like to. Unfortunately, we all like
to see everybody. Somebody like fail a little
have troubles. And I think and I think that's
like the conundrum that like Tuki, I think a
lot of Tuki's shit is really because John's whipping
his ass right now. And like people are calling
Tuki out for not being funny and being off his
game. But I think that's kind of the conundrum.
that he has right now is that like there's no
need for these filters and it's like karmic is
like yeah whatever but like karmic can just turn
a microphone on and i'm sorry but like at the
end of the day like if i just if i like this
happened this morning i was like i just need
like someone that's just gonna fucking deliver
something and i had and he was streaming i was
like i'm gonna put him on and he just fucking
turns his show on and just goes at tuky for like
an hour and it's just funny and like you know
i'm saying goes into a little theory that I have,
and I was going to kind of rant on it tonight,
but then I had you guys, so I was like, I don't
need to make it about me. I'd rather talk to
you guys. Well, I hope I didn't make it about
me too much. A flipping of the roles here a little
bit. Things are kind of getting flipped on their
head a little bit, where back in 2025 and before,
there was this whole sort of little hierarchy
and sort of thing of this pecking order that's
kind of been established. They're sort of like
the, it's almost like the surf class and the
kind of the whatever class and the, the people
kind of in that, that higher class. And I know
this sounds really pretentious, but follow me
on that. They're all, they've kind of cross -pollinated
with each other. They all do business. They're
all like kind of interdependent together, like
even like Carl, like when I was on a show and
I was asking questions and he's defending Shulie
and you could tell like it's It's almost a lot
of ways, you know. Yeah. So like, but he's, but
I said, well, what advice would you give Shuli?
Like Shuli doesn't seem like he's doing all that
well and whoa, you know, and he made all these
excuses for why Shuli is doing well. And I said,
that's okay. Fine. But so these guys are all
have kind of controlled this and they, they do
it a certain way that they want to do it. Um,
they've gotten some more than others have gotten
lazy and less kind of Structured about what they
want to do and if just because it's the super
chat machine starts We're in and the super tips
and it's it's it's less about ruins and creative
and more about just getting the machine going
and just like Letting it buzz and then now what's
happened is they had this whole sort of structure
built that they had their little things that
they would do and it's like click hit the button
and then you get the money now they don't they
can't hit that button anymore because now it's
it's These other people are kind of taking a
little piece of the pie, but then also they're
creating content that's more compelling. So they're
getting a little bit of the money. They're getting
a little bit of the tension. And someone like
Tuki, and this is, I think what turned Tuki or
made Tuki blow up is he begrudgingly now has
to follow the Scarlet Hampton, the karmic storylines,
but he doesn't want to do that. But in order
for him to get money, he has to chase what his
audience wants. So he's being, he's being led
to these little places that he doesn't really
feel comfortable or want to go into. He wants
to just put on the stuttering John clip, the
steel toe clip or the this clip, rinse, repeat,
get my super chats, you know, talk to talk to
potato and I'm out and I got my cut 500 bucks
for the day or whatever. But now he's got to
like do things that he's not as comfortable with
and it's it's making him a little have a little
bit of consternation If I can piggyback on that,
I think it's like there's that to it but I think
part of it is also that like he is stale and
it doesn't have any ideas and he's not like he
doesn't have a creative angle and because everyone
isn't like there's an there's an argument that
John is beating them right now because John is
just putting on a show and he's not and anyway
beaten down by their abuse. And so Tukey has
to wake up and think about what do I want to
do and like what would be funny and it's just
like oh do I just have to like say John's gay
because there's a roommate or something like
that and then he looks at Scarlett and then all
that and it's just like yeah but that's I think
a lot of it is just him being washed up and kind
of have out of ideas. I think so, too. I think
he's at a block, a roadblock, and he wants to
do something different. He doesn't want to. This
is what I'm just assuming. He's burnt out and
we all get burnt out doing the same thing over
and over. You need a break. That's why I take
a break. And we talked about that at the beginning
of the show. Me, Joey, Deb, we all took a break
and we came back recharged. Nothing wrong with
doing it. Nothing wrong with doing it. Can I
say one thing before I forget because I keep
forgetting? It's that there is this thing where
like so much of this dabble verse in the beginning
was just this audience of like fucking incel
guys that hate women and that just like want
to like poke fun at somebody that they think
is out of their primer or whatever because they're
miserable and like this is just catharsis for
them to just like and make them feel better about
their miserable lives and like Tuki hinted at
that when he was making that statement, but it's
like, no, this was based around hate, and he
kind of softened that later when he was talking
about it more, but now there's a much more diverse
audience. There's people that just want good
entertainment, and a lot of them want it to be
real. A lot of them are Stern fans, and Tukey
supposedly wasn't, but yeah, it's just like,
no, we want good original content at a certain
point, and the audience isn't just a bunch of
fat incels anymore. Ava, they're not all fat
incels. That's like, I'm gonna disagree here.
Okay, incels. They're not all fat. No, there's
a bunch. Don't worry. There are some. But I'm
saying, you know, I don't want to generalize
myself. I don't want to generalize. Why be diplomatic
like that? Just be reckless like they are. No
one's going to give you credit for... making
that no no no and i'm not trying to i'm not trying
to fence ride i'm just saying we hear that that
like all the time with internet groups okay i'll
correct it i'll correct it instead of instead
of instead of insoles people that just are team
players that just want it to be this thing that
they can come home and that's a better analogy
yeah thank you i'm sorry yeah that's what i was
gonna say but i keep forgetting i'm sorry i'm
glad thank you thank you for calling me thank
you no thank you for calling me you're smarter
than me dev thank you no i'm not no i'm not you
kept said tribal is like it was a little way
that's what yeah that's what i was tribal and
don'ts to say like if you look at like a tuki
clip and all the tuki fans under every it's 100
positive No matter what they're never gonna say
a negative thing about him. That's fine. He's
a good guy. But but like like you were talking
about Well, it this week he's kind of the evidence
to live I think the the mask slipped a little
bit pun intended. I like this new tuki I like
heel tuki speak my mind should be you should
you should lean into being a little bit real
because he's Here's the problem puppet. He's
a bad puppet. Don't get near him Let's use his
god -given name, Rocco. Here's Rocco's problem.
He's tried so hard to be nice to everyone. He
really wants to be liked. But he is a good -natured
spirit guy. He can't help it. No, he's not. No,
he's a miserable, hateful person. He can be.
I'm agreeing with you, but he has a side to him.
He knows how to be that soft, nice guy. with
a touch of arrogance that's an act that's an
act and like what we're seeing i'm sorry to interrupt
you i just have to get something for for like
um and just tell me to shut up but like no that
that's an act and i fell for it but like he's
like he this is what he was saying he's like
no this is built around hate he finds people
that's like a miserable fucking person that wants
to just right there bask in the misery of other
people he's not a light person he it's like you
know the act is like this lovable thing but like
the baseline of his like cool, you know, it's
like, of course, psychologically, it's miserable,
resentment, like, resentment, and failure and
like hate women, blah, blah, blah. Well, for
me, in general, like, you know, you said this
thing is built on hate. For me, it's built on
comedy. He said that. I didn't know. It used
to be I think it used to be at one time in the
beginning. That's what he said. Like, I believe
you I only caught part of it. It was being shown
on another show. And I caught part of it and
actually happened to catch the part where he
was going after you a lot of the whole time.
That wasn't really I just caught one part of
it then, man. I was provoking him. Like, yeah,
he didn't decide to go after me. I just here's
the thing. I was punching him when he was like
that. I saw this with Carl and I've seen it with
Tukey and in Cardiff a little bit less because
Cardiff, I think, is a little more thicker skinned
than they are. Yes, they're both very sensitive.
They are very thin skinned about criticism and
they've cultivated this audience that kind of
just is going to go lockstep with what they do
and kind of be on, you know, team Carl, team
Chucky. And it's like the get along gang and,
and it's, it's like a community and we're on
the same team. It's very tribal. And like anyone
that sort of like says, well, you know, that
God bit was kind of hacked. That was sort of
been done before and you didn't really do anything
great with it. And maybe you want to retire that
or. You say, Carl, your formula, like it's a
little too formulaic. You feel very kind of rigid
sometimes with how you do things. But you say
that and it's like, oh my God, you know, like
how dare this Dan. And then and then what they
do is then they start talking about you personally,
like they say about you being trans. They'll
talk about me. Oh, Dan, you don't have a big
audience. Why do they want to take advice from
you? I'm just an observer. I'm just I'm someone
that might watch your show. So I'm busting balls
just like he is. He doesn't fucking know that
right? He was just like don't you see that we're
just fucking making fun of people He was responding
like one of my super chats where I was just doing
Like he caters his like critiques about John
to what will make John get really mad So like
they know how to like push his pressure points
and that's what I did in all those super chats
is like boom boom boom and it wasn't like being
It was just me laughing and being like, I can't
wait to watch him fucking deal with this. And
then, like, he's so delusional and he was just
like, don't you see that word? This is all about
busting balls and you're just mad because we're
making fun of you. And it's like, I was never
mad that you made fun of me, you fucking bozo.
But you're mad right now because I'm making fun
of you in a way and it's hurting your feelings.
And that's what's going on. And it's just so
funny to me that, like, they've gotten away with
this this long without anybody just... Poking
at him like the way you too. I feel like me and
you This is another thing that like shocks me
because for me I just think of things very differently
than everybody like I just I think I Maybe bring
an outside perspective because i'm not as like
so So in this world that it's like I I can't
see the force your team nobody your team dan
and you fucking call balls and strikes Yeah calling
the bullshit out and calling balls and strikes.
He's a a 40 something year old man doing a puppet
show and then half the time and then the other
half of the time he's doing wearing a wrestling
mask. He's a 60 year old kid. I think he's 60
years old. So like and I'm not saying that that's
there's anything wrong with that. And it's entertaining
to some obviously as a big audience and people
like it. But at the end of the day, you're still
a guy doing a puppet show. Right. Right. And
if you a father, a father, and if you can't handle
me laughing at you because and I because because
I'm at the point now where like if you follow
my Twitter, I've been I've been saying a lot
of stuff like He's a dude doing a puppet show.
You're a puppet guy. So like, if you can't, if
you don't have a thick enough skin to be able
to understand that, like to be able to understand
what you are, you are a guy doing a puppet show
to basically our tarts, like people that are
very, like he does got a messed up audience.
I got to give him that. Give you that. The audience
is not very highbrow. So in this week, he started,
he, it kind of came out where he's sort of kind
of like, I don't know if he hates his audience
or he's a little bit I talked to Rocco a lot.
He's burnt. He's a strained bird. He don't got
nowhere out material no more. He told me this
a year ago. I'm going to run out of material
with Tukey and I'm not going to know what to
do. He says it's going to come and it's going
to come not that far out. He knows that. That's
why he's all over the place. He's out of material.
Why not ditch it then? He should get rid of the
public tomorrow. He should burn that puppet.
Do it. Take a couple weeks off and come back
with just be Rocco. But I think, I think that
what keeps him there is when he's ready to go
is John keeps him in the game. Cause the bottom
line is he's only, he only wants to talk about
John. That's his main goal. If he could just
do that, then he would stay on top of his game
because that's what he's there for. That's what
he came in for. Melton, let me tell you something.
I battled Melton. He came, Melton is the most
cruelest go right to the heart kind of cut throat
guy, cut you in the juggler type of kind of guy.
When he comes at you, he's the best at it. He
knows how to get you and get you where you're
gonna be fucking either want to kill him or you're
gonna be crying He's good at that, but I agree
time is done now because he's being repetitive
and he's doing the same stuff over and over But
he is good one as a guy by himself. He carries
the show Well, but I agree why i'm always I used
to tell baseball players Why would you if you're
an all -star superstar possible hall of famer?
Why would you stay in the game when you're 44
years old and you won't got the tools no more
and then and then take an invite to spring training
and major league and go do a triple A for your
last year. Why would you degrade yourself? Go
out on top. You think Pete Rose would have went
down the triple A when he hung up? There's no
way. Go out with like, I think the Uncle Rico
show when it was when they were making the money,
they should have cut it at a certain time and
that would have been it stopped it and went out.
Remember, they did it to the show, which I think
was one of the greatest shows they ever did.
They ended that show and it's still missed. And
that's what people need to do. It's a new breed
now. The whole new people are in here. Is this
something you want me to show? Yeah, you can
trust me. No, it's like the first time I took
a shot. It's the first time I took a shot. But
I really do think it's fascinating to watch the
way that he responds to this, because I feel
like this was the beginning of him starting to
get deflated. But yeah, this is how much of a
paper tiger this guy is. And when was this? Like
three weeks ago, three, four weeks ago. Wait,
he's not even wearing the mask or anything. That's
he's done a couple shows like that. No, he's
not wearing the mask It's him just for his face,
but this kind of ties into what y 'all are just
okay Do people hear that? But rockle is a little
kid at heart still he still got that little boy
mentality in him And that's where it comes out
all the characters and the puppets, you know,
because he still wants to be a little boy, you
know but this guy's going at john about his parenting
about like people that are over the age of 18
and have like Right. Succeeded in life. And that's
kind of how I was trying to tap it. I don't agree
with them doing it. You know, I don't agree with
that. I really don't. I don't agree with John
striking channels. And I also my my attitude
is John's battles aren't mine to fight. Like
I don't fight other people's battles. I'll help
John fight this battle. But there's times where
John has a battle he wants to fight and I attack
him like his quad one. i'll fight this battle
with him because he's such hypocrites has he
let quad back on on his show since all that happened
yeah yeah he was like he was like defending like
his making fun of quad for being paraplegic i
was like shit i was like john just it's not the
same thing as like But like for me, I behind
the scenes made up with people that I trash talk
and I thought about it and I said those people
never said anything bad about me. How did you
feel when you did that? When you come to that
decision to do that? When you analyze what you
did and how hard you went at somebody and then
because I've done that, I've said I went after
the wrong person. I was too hard on that person.
I didn't deserve that. I felt compelled to apologize.
I did. I apologize privately and everything's
good and it's and I feel great. Yeah, good. I'm
not I'm not here to fight people. I'm here to
laugh. I'm here to talk to interesting people
like you guys. Thank you very much. Honestly,
if the show sucks, I don't watch it. And I'm
cutting out a lot of for 2026. Yeah, I'm cutting
out a lot of shows and reading my own time. You're
a hell of a you do a great show. I want to tell
you I mean, if at the bottom of both you guys
do a fantastic show. Yeah, I love you. Thank
you. You know, and I don't want you guys to think
Oh, look, she's such a fence rider because she
said is mountains this or mountain set. I watch
these shows sometimes a whole show. Sometimes
I don't watch any of it. I don't trust them going
biz to go into business. I'm not going to go
in business with them. To be honest with you,
I see too many people arguing over super tips.
And I considered it and I bugged Dan I said,
when we got we got struck to have a and we didn't
have the monetization we had to start all the
way from the bottom. with the hours and we took
us six months or more. We're like three months
and then we got we got we got we got struck.
And I'm trying to remember my point now with
this, but I love what you struck for. We don't
know. We don't even know. I suspect a couple
one or one or more people that might have dated
Karmic at some point. Well, I'm not going to
I'm not going to accuse. But what I was trying
to say is I just. I don't waste my time with
things that don't entertain me. Have I have I
gotten sucked into this? Yes. It's like a soap
opera. It's like pro wrestling and it's like
reality TV. Right. So half of it's fake. Honestly,
I think, you know, some of it's from the heart.
But you have some of it's mean and some of it's
kind. You know, I think you all you all of you
all have the credibility. Like when you said
what you're saying about Milton at no point did
I think Debbie's. ball -washing Melton, I just
thought, oh, this is how Deb feels about Melton.
Like, you earned that credibility with at least
people like me that watch him, Jack. Aw, thank
you. I mean, listen, I did look... Oh, I know
what I was going to say. I did bug Dan. I said,
well, let's get the super tips. Let's ask for
the super tips. And, you know, when he first
came out with them and Dan didn't want to do
it. Dan, I don't mean to cut you up. I'll tell
you this. He doesn't bother you. Now he made
it where you even have to deal with him. You
sign up for it. You add an inter question. They
don't they don't they don't get involved. I never
hear from him. He don't write you. They take
their 10 percent off the top when it goes in
there and he goes right to your bed. I mean,
I think you guys are good enough that you would
make a lot of money with it. If you could put
aside that how you feel, they don't really bother
you at all. I promise you, you'll never hear
from them. This is like a problem you all have
for me. I just will never mix money with this
world, because it will change everything. But
that's why I don't do a show. I don't really
want anybody to be my boss. I don't really want
it. Exactly. I don't ever want to have to say
anything. The one thing I don't like of Dan,
Joey... Joe Biden. The one thing I don't like
is that he can bust in and put his free chats
up. He can't do that again. He can't do that.
But I don't like that. Wait, what? Melton can
just free chat. He can go in anybody's account
at any time and post whatever he wants. Put his
free chat up on your screen. And I don't like
that. Yeah, I don't like that either. I didn't
know that. You guys just pulled up the free chats.
What's going on, man? Well, I would never what
if I if I was in this and had monetization I
wouldn't want someone like him to be in charge
of my financial processing It's a stripe does
it they send him to percentage stripe is not
The most reputable company that's true. I mean,
that's I agree with that. Yeah, I would never
I don't trust him Yeah, I mean these people are
like evil. I would never want him in charge of
my monetization, but but I don't even But I don't
even know what it's like to think about it. You
know what? It was it's not even really like just
distrust or anything like that. It's like I don't
want somebody to be able to manipulate my chat.
I agree. I also did. I did think about it when
he launched it for everybody. I looked at it
and he did a tutorial and I watched it. Yes.
Well, the newbies that get it. They don't get
Kumiya's voice. They don't get Carl's voice.
They don't get fish lunch. They don't get any
of the cool voices. They get a bunch of these
generic. You're right. Unless you're grandfathered
in. Unless you were grandfathered. He's not the
jv version of it. It's like it's like a second
class. It's like a case system Yeah, so that
the the og's got the good one and we get the
other one and they're probably going to try for
more absolutely Exactly. Yeah, but you're exactly
your own though. They got to pick out an app
in there You can make your own voices. They got
it all set up in there. Well, the ones I want
to make they already have so now That should
be part of it. It's like if you want to solve
the problem about youtube Super chats based on
like censorship and just free speech just solve
that problem just have like an Objective payment
processor that you do through super tips and
don't add any of the other stuff once you start
doing that Then you're just acting like a corporation
and it's like I do that That fat slob is like
gonna have any leverage or you know, like he
can chat in free. That's where it all I'm just
gonna like I said, I'm gonna look at for my personal
channel I'm going to thank you, Joe. I'm going
to look at I'm going to look at PowerChat or
maybe soft. I'd look at his platform. What do
you think about Ukrainian super tips, President
Biden? All right. No, very much the best, you
know. Yeah, I know. Super tips. You ever get
any of those, Joe? I don't know what super tips
is, but it sounds great. It's Ava. It's Ava.
That's the best response. That's a good one.
That's a great response. But what I was going
to say is that your voice will be heard at the
ballot box, man. It should all be, yeah. Thanks,
President Biden. No, I want to answer this question.
That's what America's about, man. Dude, that's
so, that's on point. Have any of you heard from
Rob Saul lately? I haven't heard of Rob. I haven't.
I'm in contact with him. He retired from the
dabble verse. He did. Yes, it was toxic. He's
working on. He's working at a dog pound now.
No, he's another straight white man that acted
like a little bitch and acted like everything
people say trans people act like. that got fucking
bummed out because they got their ass whooped
and then they just scurried out of the internet
like a bitch. But that said, I'm a huge fan.
Hey there, young lady, stop, stop crashing the
trannies, man. Joe, I got a question for you.
Why did you put me in prison for making a false
statement to a federal agent? I didn't do shit,
man. The funniest thing that Joe Biden actually
did say is that when he was running for president
in 2020, somebody asked him how many genders
there are. And then he just paused and he just
said, At least three. At least twice, three and
a half. And Joe, why haven't they ever elected
an Italian for president in the history of the
United States? Because y 'all don't circumcise.
You know, what could the devil do? Why in the
world should the Italians be in the president?
Do you like Oli Callens? Do you have Ray DeVito?
The position you had, Joe, they will never allow
an Italian in. They've only let one Catholic
in and that was Kennedy and he killed him for
it. No, did you just call them for a different
reason, man? I just want to know my mom. I have
a verse two. He's he's now opening a Minnesota
daycare. Very lucrative of a business. Yes. What
do you guys think of that shooting in Minnesota
yesterday? Man, disinformation. Yeah, I stood
icing. Yes. I didn't see much about it. So you
got to shoot your shot, man. Pretty pretty horrible.
They showed it. Well, I saw it from another angle
and it looked like she was dropping off her partner.
Yeah, and she was trying to do, you know, to
the get out of there. She was scared, I think.
And then she was scared. That cop also apparently
has had another incident where he got hit by
a car. Yeah. You don't do much pay as a very
negative thing. Very prejudiced. I'm going to
say about Italians. I do. Thank you. I do. The
grease runs off the side like that, too. All
right, do. Yeah. Italians turn off pit for office,
man. Why? You know. Joe, they're no worse than
you guys using the CIA as your own personal head
squad. Yeah, it's my personal head squad. I get
to use it. I'll have CFIT. Exactly. So what's
the difference between an Italian being mafia?
What's the difference? You guys kill, presidents
kill, they use it in the CIA. So go be in the
mafia then. I don't want to be in the mafia.
I want to be me. I just want to be me. You sound
so gay when you say that. I do? I'm gay for Elvis
Presley and it's his birthday today. You know
that? Oh, yeah, that's right. Happy birthday,
Elvis. He's somewhere in nine or something. I
think today. Oh, wow. He was born in 19, 1935,
wasn't he? Oh, wait, wait. You'd be 90 years
old. We're talking about Italians. Yeah, I wish
thinking of Mexicans. I'm sorry. We look the
same. And we don't want that. Waps, grease balls,
whatever. They're all the same. No, no, no. Italians
are OK. I was just mixing it up in my head, man.
You're all right, Joe. I like you. I actually
like you. I like me, too. I know that. Hey, Joey,
I got a question for you. If there's anybody
in the dabble verse that you'd like to bury the
hatchet with, you know, if you could squash it
with somebody that you, uh, you know, maybe have
fought with in the past. I think, I think I've
made friends with everybody. All my fans I've
made amends with. I have a base pill who maintained
that I was lying about something for over a year.
I maintained that he was the liar and, and then
I got to know the kid and he did some work for
me. I hired him as a con outside work to do some,
uh, some, uh, videos for me, cutting up some
videos and got the dome and. And on a live stream
I said, you know, I got to know you and you seem
like a pretty decent guy I got i'm gonna give
you a very big gift tonight and I told him on
my 24 hour stream You were right about the lie.
I was lying in that video when I said it when
I said that he went whoa Whoa, and I gave it
to him because he deserved it But I maintained
he was a piece of garbage for over a year and
he was lying on me And once I got to know him
again What she just talked about you you banter
on somebody and then you you really think about
that a day deserve that He deserved a lot of
stuff because he went with the worst two trolls
that try to destroy me. But he still was civil.
He was still showed a human side of him. When
they went too far, he backed off. There's two
people that I can never forgive. And I don't
know if you guys remember the Catalan network
that came out. Yeah. And how I read it got me.
Well, the tables turned when I found out who
the guy that owned the channel's real name was
and his address and phone number and all that
stuff. So we immediately immediately contacted
me and said, you know, you're not going to talk
to me. I said, I have no reason to talk to you.
As long as you know, I know I'm happy with that.
You know, it gives me leverage now. Yeah. And
so now let's talk privately. I want to know why.
And he goes, I never hated you because I'm a
big fan of yours. I go, it's pretty hard to believe
you're a fan with the way you went after my wife
and where there's just something if you're a
fan, I don't mind you busting my ball. But you
know, the devil has made my wife to be the king's
prostitute ever. And my wife is the total opposite.
You know, And they don't have my wife every day.
Look, they just came up with the catalog of Christmas
special things. The lizard. I laughed my ass
off the whole thing. But they make my wife to
be some wretched whore that she's not. But she
I don't know why they use a sweetheart. And but
she handles it well. And I didn't. But so those
two but the two people that there was one troll
that he called us up on my personal line and
three, four o 'clock in the morning drunk and
physically said things that he wanted to do to
my granddaughter and left it on left it left
it on. the voicemail and I'll say this I will
never forgive him but I spared him from going
to prison because he left those what he said
he wanted to do to my grandchild I gave it to
the police and he was going to get arrested and
I stopped it at the last minute so and and he
hasn't bothered me since now it's been about
a long time now but he he was hired and Melton
is the one that put him up to everything. So,
you know, he worked for Melton and he was the
worst. He was the worst. He's got a lot of those
little cronies that do. But right now, there's
there's really nobody I could say that I made
a mentor to everybody. How about now, Chow wants
to know how about Buckman? And I'm going to add
Carmich. Now, I saw Carmich did a list, a naughty
list, and you were number one on top of it. Well,
you guys, did you guys know that Carmich straight
lied and said he did nothing to me? I pumped
him up. He forgets that Alex Stein and I are
very good friends. Yeah. And I did not go. I
did not go there. I sat there and I pumped him
up. I introduced him. I said that to the world.
He was the next best thing. And he let the fans
bait him. And he shit on me really bad one day.
And I couldn't believe it because I was talking
with the guy every day. I was telling him I was
going to get a solo with Alex Mersh called Alex
and said, you know, man, all of a sudden, Christy
Mayer and Keanu came on that day. He was bumping
karmic that day because of the double booking
and he they were in the studio so he figured
he had to have them when the booking came on
because their timing was and Alex called me to
say do you know this karmic guy and I said listen
you got you can't bump this kid because he kept
the night before he's like I haven't heard from
I'm not I guess he's not going on because they
were announced piano I see you're going on trust
me I gave my word and he did and I and then I
go and I'll be there with you and then Alex is
the one that threw the jabs shot that got him
twisted and joey c begging me to come on That
was such the biggest lie in the world. Cause
me and I just talked to Alex last night and he's
coming in next week. You want to go do a city
hall thing? I said, yeah, he's right. I'll call
you when I get in. But Alex likes to, he likes,
he's the troll of all trolls. He's the king of
all trolls. And he likes to, he likes to steer
the pot. I had all of them, a good attention.
You have a great relationship with Alex, right?
Great relationship. If I text him, he'll answer
me in three seconds. That's great. That's not
the relationship I have with him. Joey, who got
him on the show? Was it Mersh? Mersh is the one
that got... But he asked me what I thought and
what kind of guy he was. And I said, and I'm
the one that went on to put the... Mersh did
make that phone call, and Alex likes Mersh, and
he was a big part of Karmic getting on. But Alex
did still call me a couple of days before to
ask me what I thought of Karmic, and I pumped
Karmic up so much on the phone. And Karmic didn't
follow through on it, right? He asked him to
come on, and then Karmic... So this is the thing
that people don't know about karmic and i actually
talked to some people that have done business
legit business or tried to do business with karmic
he's very lazy he's very unprofessional he doesn't
follow up on things he makes a lot of promises
that he doesn't deliver on because he's he's
peter pan yeah he's living in this little dream
world in his modular home in northern minnesota
without a care in the world dancing like a you
know a zesty little fruit You can you can rewind
his life to like 20 years ago and it's him on
the same tantrum in his bedroom with his mom
outside of the door knocking and saying, no,
you're great. Carmich, you're fucking great.
No, I'm the best. And then somebody was mean
to him at school. It's just you're right. You're
right. If you didn't help out, he probably doesn't
do the Alex Stein show because he didn't. He
was like he said he wanted to do it, but then
he doesn't like follow up and he doesn't do the
thing he thought he was going to do it. And I
told him, I got to make sure it's going to happen.
Like I said, Mersh talk. Alex called me to ask
me what I thought. I said, listen, I'll come
on. I don't know. I'm not going to speak that
much. You know, it's his for him show. I know
it sucks that Chrissy bear bump kind of bump
took away from him. That's the people that took
away from him. But I still wouldn't. But weren't
they pre -scheduled because they flew out to
Dallas. Correct. They were they had they were
doing they weren't they doing a comedy show there.
Yeah. But I think somehow it got mixed up on
a date when he told Carmich. I think he forgot
that that was the day he had them on. So he was
gonna take the heat, huh? That's what's so funny.
He does, that does sound like a Democrat. That's
why it's so funny that he's like a rampant racist
right winger. It's like Carmich is like the most
like the embodiment of like a liberal, a liberal
pussy that wants empathy and all that. But like
when it's not about him, he's just like a veal.
He's a violent racist and Trump supporter. Joey,
Jake Hudson wants to know. And I was thinking
this. Fuck you, Jake. What's your fucking problem?
You turn on me. I've been nothing but good to
you. I fucking just send you money left and right.
He's turned on me 15 times. What's your fucking
problem, Jake? Sorry, guys. Oh, anyway, Jake
Hudson wants to know, Joey. He thought you resigned
from the president. I announced it on my show.
OK, I announced it on my show. And I still had
to go do the paperwork. So I called the Federal
Election Commission on that Friday, on the Friday
after I did my show. And I was talking with the
guy because he had to do my end, he had to do
the end of the year reports. And because I'm
grassroots and I haven't got no political campaign
help from any of the Republicans or the Democrats,
and I haven't collected no campaign, you know,
I have it all set up. So my report was simple.
I had to ask her, the lady that's assigned to
each campaign, they have different people that
go to people. And I said, I still have to file
it. And mine was all zeros because I haven't
made $5 ,000. I didn't spend $5 ,000. Nothing's
in and out of that account. But I said, I was
thinking about pulling out because I know reality.
I'm one in a 50 million shot of making it. But
I want to hear my voice. I want to I want to
speak. I want to I got some things that need
to be changed. I love America. I love this country.
And I hate corruption. I've seen it firsthand
in really real life. No one's going to anybody
that's naive and thinks that that the senators
and the president himself don't get envelopes
from drug lords and suitcases of money to let
stuff come across the border you're naive if
you don't think that because it does happen they're
in bed with they were in bed with the mob they
went to the mafia to help them put wars they
went to the mafia to help them kill kill kennedy
they've done all this it's all factual you understand
so i think it's time america us you the average
working us is to all stand together and get rid
of these corruption and fight for what's ours
and make this a good place again. We helped too
many foreign countries. Not that I'm saying we
shouldn't, but we got our own American soldiers
sleeping on America first. I'm America's worst
out of these countries. I'm America first. That's
right. What did you and I talk about the other
day about Trump? We were kind of like not like
I'm a huge Trump guy, but. We were ready to just
like shake things up, right? Like, let's let's
do something different. There's drain the swamp.
But guess what? He turned out to be just like
everybody else. He's a swamp. OEC would be different.
I know you would be different. I would never
sell myself for the American people. I would
never I don't care if it even got me got me in
a way where they're going to kill me. I believe
something. Let me tell you something. I'm not
afraid of nobody. Those old senators that have
been there for 30 years. It's time to go. Here's
my theory. And people think I'm nuts. The only
way you want to know how you fight corruption,
you have to become corruption. And I mean, corruption,
not by baby stealing, but by thinking like them.
You want to catch these old senators in the cookie
jar, find the dirt on them, find the ones that
go out and they go to hotels with little boys.
You know what? We need term limits. Okay. There
should be term limits. Then you can have like
a churn. Yes. Hi, President Biden. Get the dirt
on them and don't crumble. They'll leave and
you'll get rid of the corruption. People say
you can't feed them. Let me tell you something.
You follow them around and you get, you get close
enough and see, cause I promise you there's some
of them that chase little boys. Some of them
that are part of the missing children in this
world, like the Epstein and all that's crazy.
They're there. There are a lot of sick people
in this world. People that you wouldn't even
think of being sick. And there are, but let me
tell you something. And the real Joe Biden is
the biggest piece of shit ever. You know how
much money he's stolen from the American people?
President Biden's right here. President Biden,
did you steal money from the American people?
You know, I think this is all disinformation,
man. No, it's facts. Joey, see, get the Somalis
out of date to our state. Somalians are there.
They're invading us. And those are the ones that
we got to watch out because they're not like
the mob mob have codes. They wouldn't hurt children,
women. The mollies will take your baby and cut
their head off right in front of you just to
make a point. Well, yeah, we got a problem with
that coming in. I know exactly what you're talking
about. What would you do with illegal immigration?
What about inclusivity, man? Well, I'm a firm
believer an eye for an eye. Stop wasting taxpayer
money. When you've got someone that's debt ruthless,
it's time to cut them off. It's time to cut their
heads off and get rid of these people. Go after
the big drug lords and kill them. Don't bring
them to justice. Kill them. Take them out. Have
you ever like asked yourself why they're Somalian
refugees? Why do you get mad when they show up
in this country but you don't give a shit like
in 2006 where we just keep installing leaders
in Somalia? We just did a regime change in Venezuela.
We don't let them have independent governments
because we steal their oil and their natural
resources and then we impoverish the people there
and we take them in out of guilt for that. Instead
of bitching at the people who've had their countries
ruined by the United States foreign policy and
Venezuela, why don't you advocate for us to stay
the fuck out of their countries? Thank you. We
put too much money into foreign countries. I
get tired of soldiers sleeping on the VITAD,
soldiers sleeping on the street. I gave a guy
five dollars the other day. It was my last five
bucks in my pocket. And he was a vet. I go, why?
And ain't just Obama, you fucking cunt. It's
terrible. I don't like to see that. They fought
for our country. Sorry. Can't take the people
and give them a home. Come on. Or hey, you guys.
It's not a fucking con. How much money do you
piss away taking your friends on a jet somewhere
to go have lunch over in Australia? Yes, we did.
Look it up. You fucking retard. Don't don't don't
get me started with all you crook. Hey, Joey,
Joey, what's the 15th Amendment? Chile made off
for $2. What's the 15th Amendment? He's muted.
We can't hear you. I lost my hair in for a sec.
President Biden put those those hearing aids
back in please. Oh, sorry. Yeah, I really hit
the mute button. Oh, you were getting out you
were getting hyped up. Yeah I don't know all
the amendments. I don't know all the grindy pinnacle
of stuff. I don't know. I'm learning all that
stuff. I didn't go to school. I hated schools,
but I know about corruption I know what's wrong
and in order to be fixed in this country and
I know how you have to do it. Yeah Okay, but
for me, you'll get all it means it means you
can't discriminate based people voting based
on their race. We can't make it about politics
no more. Politics is what got us wound. No, but
Joey, the problem right now is like in this post
-Trump era everything is, everything has become
politics so we don't even know how to sort out
things that didn't used to be politics. They've
taken religion out of the schools, they've taken
so much away from, they've taken music away from
schools. They've taken religion out of the schools?
No they're not. Well they have, some places do.
They took out all the academics like uh music
they're taking music away from schools they're
taking away are they still doing pledge of allegiance
i don't think they are i don't think carolina
they are take a like button and here as much
as people i want to hear this you want to cut
crime down stop releasing people from prison
and not letting them give you give them an idea
throwing them out on the street so they have
no choice but to go out and hurt somebody in
crime get programs reform programs that really
reform them and teach them a trade so they can
come out. Give them an ID when they get out of
it. Let them go get a free ID. Give them somewhere
to go for 90 days so they can get a job and you'll
cut crime down. You know how many people get
released? They got no ID. The minute they get
50 feet from the prison, the cops pull them over.
Where's your ID? I don't have one. And I'm locking
them right back up. Hey, Joey, what are you doing
the first 30 days? President Biden, just one
second. Hey, Joey C, what are you going to do
the first 30 days on your president? What's like
the What do you got to knock out right away when
you get into office? My two top acts, my prison
reform act and my internet act of fixing the
trolling and the hate and the people that are
making people commit suicide and stuff like that.
Reform frame one, get rid of the internet trolls
too. For me, I'm not a politician. Then we go
fix this problem with... with the health care
for people. That's universal health care is number
one. Health care should not be tied to employment.
It makes you a medical health slave to businesses.
It's a bizarre that health care was ever assigned
attached to employment. Your boss will pick the
cheap worst health care plan for you. Yeah, my
boss only cares about the bottom line, not about
my health. Right. California just got raised
to 17 dollars our minimum wage. But how much
did how much percent of California go up for
everything else in rent, cars, payments, insurance,
food, 50 times that three dollar raise they got.
So they're just making more poverty for people.
I believe that there's no federal minimum wage.
I think people should be paid. I think people
should be paid what what the company feels they're
worth. Let people get paid what they're worth.
Don't write cap on them. Right. I know this is
from surely made up for $5 politics sharks politics
does suck. We all you know, it's not black and
white. There's a lot of nuance to it. We're not
all going to agree on everything. I like this
Biden. But uh, Shuley made up, Ava, Ava, he says,
Ava, don't waste your time with this new port.
This guy was cleaning jock straps in 2006. He's
talking about you, Joey. You gonna take that?
Wow. Can I say something to Shuley made up? And
Shuley, Shuley'll pay. So that's why he comes
to mind and carries me up, but he pays money,
he always pays. Same here, same here. I do, you
do it with class, you fucking tip well and you
talk to bad shit. You know, like I said, don't
be hatin'. If you want to be if you want to come
and learn how to wash jockstraps and watch all
the and the cock gays in the locker room, I'll
be glad to get you an invited in the locker room.
I'll be glad to help take you over to Washington
jockstraps. Is that like ball washing? I was
at 2006. I was already I was running the club.
I had by my I had people under me to work, but
I started out as a bad boy in the major leagues
in Washington. How do they get balls? Huh? Very
well. President Biden, would you say? He worked
under you. No, Joe. Joe, do you smoke pot? I
think you need to. It'll calm me down, buddy.
Take it easy. How do you get the grass stains
out of the jerseys, Joe? That's a good question.
I don't take anything out of their stuff, man.
Grass stains, depending where it's at, and that
certain clay mud that they have on the field.
Hey, I'm Joe. And of course, you know, some guys
after the game, they look like they slid through
the whole field because they just mud up. Lot
of guys that steal bases a lot of scrubbing It's
a lot of a lot of hot water a lot of scrub a
lot of chemicals scrubbing scrubbing Because
a major league uniform can never go out on the
field again Whatever a tear if they rip it they
get a new pair in the minor leagues. It's different
There's no budget like that. So you got a tear
or if they tear this stuff You got to go get
a patch so it could get ugly But in the major
leagues, you've got a you've got a scrub scrub
scrub There's a guy they have a scrubber that's
that's what he strictly does the uniforms get
off the players come in The uniforms are the
first thing that goes in the back. Scrub, scrub,
scrub, scrub with different chemicals, industrial
chemicals. A lot of work. Joey, I mean, Joey
C, you should do on your YouTube channel, honestly,
laundry tips. It's a cooking show. Like how to
get out. Joey C, Joey D. Red sauce. How do you
get red sauce out? That's so hard to get out
of, like if you splatter. Spaghetti sauce? Believe
it or not, here's an old trick. If you're in
a dress, like if you're a male and you're wearing
a tie and a white shirt and you go to a restaurant
to get spaghetti sauce on you, red sauce. You
go break cleaner, break cleaner, one spray of
break cleaner dissolves it right off. Yeah, but
you don't have break cleaner in a restaurant
though. I've always heard club soda right away.
Club soda is you're supposed to splat like when
club soda is you're not supposed to wipe it.
You're supposed to dot it. Anything red with
club soda. You just got to work it real soft
to get it. But you got to do it right away. If
you let it sit in there for five minutes, you're
never going to get it out. It works to shaft.
Yeah, like this, Joe. Joe, I'm called Pooh Thumbs
because There was a moment in my life in the
last few months when I got real fast. My pipe
was broken. So I had to service my wife with
the pumps. And they're like jackhammers. How's
your pipe doing now? Excellent. Yeah, excellent.
And closing on his meth pipe. I smoked that for
a long time to Joe. Thanks for asking. Surely
off $2 politics are dumb, but very important.
That's true. And we'll just have to watch and
see if it's very interesting. I know I'm a one
in a 50 billion shot, but if I could get out
there and make something and get my point of
views, somebody in public office hears me, might
be out there when I'm talking and says, this
guy's making some sense and just, I want to just
help people. I think what you should do is that
you should be a public advocate for removing
the... the rule against felons being able to
run for local office and then advocate for that
and get it overturned and show your advocacy
work there and then run for like a senate or
house. I can't run for governor though. Until
Trump pardons me and I did all the paperwork.
I'm waiting to see if he's gonna pardon me. You're
gonna have to pay like at least three billion.
He pardoned Jelly Roll. That's the going rate
right now to bipartisan. I put in all the paperwork
and it takes, you know, I don't know him. Jelly
Roll's famous guy, you got a little more influence.
I don't know. We all know him at this point.
Trump is a felon and maybe he'll have a heart,
so I don't know. All right. Well, we're coming
up on midnight on the East Coast. I want to get
everybody. This has been awesome. It's been a
great conversation. Everybody will love having
you guys back. Before we wrap up. Way past my
bedtime. I know. Thank you, President Biden.
President Biden, do you have any plugs that you'd
like to get out before we? Yeah, a lot of plugs,
man. Why do you even have to bring that up? All
right, President Biden, thank you. Thank you
so much for joining. We're going to let you go.
See you. That's a that's really good. Yeah, that
was good. I have my daughter. I always get emotional
because I love her so much. But there's her when
she was a teenager or 11 years old. Wow. That's
her. She looks like Shirley Temple. She has beautiful
hair. Everybody wanted her hair. Wow. Is that
you? She's still got that hair. Is that you,
Joey? That's me, yeah. I was 30, 33 years old.
Look at you. Wow, stud there. I was a very good
looking man. I was a very good looking man. Joey,
where can we check you out? That was working
at Phillies. That was during spring training
at the Phillies in Clearwater. You were with
the Phillies? Yeah, I was at the Phillies for
a few years. Oh, cool. So you're doing a show
this weekend or what's kind of... Well, I normally...
I started at... uh the the probably in the storage
room again but everything that was up went up
last night so now they started a new run so now
it's the beginning the first day so it's i could
do the show but i'm gonna i won't bid on anything
that's just starting out for 10 days because
it's gonna change and you know so i'm gonna do
a show saturday we're gonna go over and look
what's there and then tuesday i'll start doing
my bidding so this way on thursday in the afternoon
when everything starts forming to who's gonna
win Then I'll if I if I'm in the loop or any
of them, I'll live stream the actual down in
a few couple of seconds. And then the key is
what they want to see is me going out there,
acting like a crazy man and jump diving in the
storage unit and catching all kind of diseases
and touching stuff. And, you know, because let
me tell you something. I got a locker for five
dollars and a very, very bad, bad Polacka, Florida.
Oh, yeah. Polacka, Florida is a very dirty place
of Florida. It's a very poor place. And the locker
belonged to a stripper. a single girl, a single
black stripper who had size 11 feet. He had a
big foot because all her high heels were in there.
But she had she was in there that broke my heart
is her little son's toys and all his photos from
the time he was born to her. But he he had all
the most expensive toys, all his pictures, his
clothes were there. She was a good mother. She
bought him the best of everything. He was the
classiest of all, because I found her medicines
that where she had to clap and and all kind of
diseases for being a stripper. But she was a
good mother. And I found everything. The name
of that would cure anything that she would have.
But after going, you know, you go through the
photos because, you know, I don't keep that stuff.
You've got to really part with it. At first,
I said, I came up with the idea. Let me get back
to personal for and the guy stopped me at the
counties. If you do that, you're making yourself
up the problem. because if you go and make friends
with them and give them back their personal photo,
now they're going to come after you and they're
going to want their stuff back. Right. You can't
do that. You have to part with it. So it's hard
to throw someone's life photos. You know that
that photos are everything. You know, you don't
want to lose photo. And I just you got to just
toss them. You know, it's awesome. You got to
just let it go and toss them. But I did find
one a couple of times with soiled condoms in
the couch. You know, I'm. Yeah, I mean, filled
to the max, which would soiled very badly. So
I found some stuff like that. I found one that
a guy that was a swingers club. He was a bar
swingers club in Florida. And I found his personal
collection of the memory old. What was the kind
of the camera that when you snapped it, it came
out the right. Yeah. And he had a bunch of Polaroids
of women from this late 60s or 70s. Women back
there didn't shave. They had the bush. So he
had all these different Different size women
with the bush photos and and I found a lot of
dildos in one bag a lot of stuff like that They
were all used they were all used and dirty So
I had was getting ready to throw them out and
I had this guy I swear to you I knew this guy
not that well I had stopped by his house because
he was buying he's buying a jukebox that I got
out of there and He goes what's in that bag.
I go. Oh, I'm throwing it out. It's garbage.
He went through it He goes I'll clean those up
and use them on my wife tonight Yeah, so I found
some sick stuff I found a lot of sick stuff I
Found I stumbled onto a storage unit ahead. You
know what MDA MDNA is it's a drug that makes
It's on the United States panelists. Yeah, if
you get caught with it It's what makes ecstasy
and all that you have the hardcore stuff I found
a lab that was in they were using a storage unit
with all the pills and the powder and I had to
immediately and me i'm not afraid of nothing
labs i would not it was a mess they were making
they were making mda they were making exercise
and loose rubbers normally i would put down the
bag it took it took it to the garbage myself
i called the police immediately waited showed
him i just bought this unit and let them take
it out uh i did find a gun once and i love guns
but once i became a felon i had to turn in my
gun so i got nervous my luck if i would have
transported it even though i showed the paperwork
that i i was going to take it to the police department
My luck is that they would have called me a liar
and they would have rested me for having the
gun. So I called the police to come and get the
gun because I can't I'm not supposed to be in
your gun. So yeah. Yeah, Joey. It was a pleasure
having a pleasure. Thank you. I hope you'll come
back and join us. Absolutely. Anytime. Anytime.
You're very, very interesting. Thank you. And
I've enjoyed having you on. I enjoyed being here.
Yeah. You always it's great. It's nice to hang
out again. I love you so much, Joey. Thank you.
Same here. And maybe one day I'll reach out to
you and you can come and do a stream with me.
You know, I'd be honored to. Right. Great. Guys,
what are you cooking? Joey, what do you plug
in before you go? Oh, yeah. I'm just going to
tune into Saturday night. It'll be Saturday night.
The third episode of the storage spine. Oh, tomorrow,
Friday. I started telling the Catalan network.
I said I am now we are not partners. I agreed
to do a Friday night show with him. And we sat
down, we hashed out the rules. He asked me who
I don't want to see on the show. I gave two names
for the band list. He's going to be bringing
people on that my haters to have an opportunity
to confront me on the show and go back and forth
with me. And then we're going to show a lot of
clips of what people, the cruel things that people
said and what my opinion is of it. And he's going
to bring guys like American Cupcake in to go
after me, maybe try to get You know, some of
the, some of the haters that really trolled me
hard and see, he wants to get that reaction out
of me to see how, you know, when they, when they
go hard to paint, if I'm going to be the old
Joey C I said, listen, I can't get mad fake.
I can never do that. I can't pull it off, but
if they hit the wrong button, there's still a
guarantee. Don't get that. Don't get it. So,
Before you go, I'm going to read something uplifting.
This has been all over the place today. So Reverend
Rage says discrimination is wrong at any level.
Everybody needs to be judged as an individual,
not because of where they're from or the color
or sexuality, basic manners, and education. Yes,
I agree. I want to say one more thing and then
I'm going to shut up here. I also believe that
true friendship that you have with somebody,
friendships need to be tested. You need to test
friends, true friends. and put it through a test
to see if they're true blue to you. I've always
maintained that my whole life because, you know,
people that appear to be your friends. And it's
happened to it's happened. It happened a couple
of times. One time to me, it has happened to
a lot of friends where they they wind up trying
to go after your lady or lady. I know we're like,
it doesn't even look real. It looks like. But
I that's that I'm very big on that testing friendship.
Don't a friend should never be insulted if you're
tested as friendship. Right. If you're my true
friend, then you'll understand that you. Right.
And friends can have disagreements. Right. You
know, and make up or discuss, have a healthy
discussion. And that's what's lacking a lot of
times with people. Thank you very much. Yes,
you're right. You know, but good luck with everything
and we'll see you soon. Bye, Joey. Bye, guys.
Thank you. So good to see you, Joey. Bye bye.
Ava, you too. Take care. Where's my little thing
to get out of here? Guys, have a great night.
You too. Bye bye. All right. See you, everybody.
All right, Ava. What's your, what do you plug
in? I'm nothing. I'm uploading songs to youtube
.com slash Ava Riza, I think. I don't know. Isn't
it Ava Riza music at Bandcamp? No, it's Ava Riza
at Bandcamp and then Ava Riza at YouTube. There's
a bunch of fake people posting as me. and chatting,
um, as I've arisen music, but I never know who's
who. There was like, it has, this is our rise
in those spaces. So you see people asking for
the link with anything other than that. It's
a fake account cause I've never asked. Well,
uh, Ava, you always used to ask for the link.
Didn't you? I said, I said you never saw a link.
You didn't click on it. I don't like you were
everywhere. Last time I asked for a link was
like, When Kevin Brennan said he wants to have
me on the show, and then someone said, Kevin
Brennan, he wants you to have him on the show.
And then I tried it and I was like, hey, I'm
going to come on the show. And then he just like
lashed out at me. And then he just rewrote it
into all those months ago on MLC. I always thought
you were a link slut. I really am not. Maybe
I'm delusional and I just don't. Deb, you got
anything to promote? Well, I'm going to be starting
to get my channel going and my show. And I'd
like to have Ava on. Of course, anytime. That
Sunday show. And maybe I have some other things
in the works. So, you know, stay tuned. Okay,
Deb, ask me a question now. What are you promoting?
A probing question. What do you think? What do
you think happened to that woman that got shot
by the ICE agent?