So I got bad news guys I got stood up the special
guest she was too big for the show she decided
at the last minute that she didn't want to do
it so I Figured I had I owed it to you guys to
just come on live and just say that I screwed
up and this is what happens when you over promise
You get all excited you get all you get that
you get it all lined up You think you did everything
that right to get that guest lined up? Um, and
then, uh, it didn't happen. So, uh, it sucks,
man. I, I, that's why I, that's why I started
so late. I was really hoping that I was wrong,
hoping that the person was going to show up.
I know Gina, what a flake, just awful. Um, everything
that people are saying, and now I'm starting
to think like people are saying, you know, it's
like this LA flake mentality. Oh no, I'm just
kidding. She's here. Let's go. The most controversial
woman on the internet is here, Ashley Cummings.
How are you this evening, Ashley? That was so
funny. You almost got me. Yeah, you've got a
lot of fans. Gina's got them. Yes. Haha. Fuck
yes. That was good. Good one, boss. That was
so good. I was like, wait, did you forget that
I'm here? I know, did Dan forget, what happened?
It was funny, I did get, do you know who Michael
Ray Bauer is? There was that show, Salute Your
Shorts on Nickelodeon. He was like the fat kid
from that. He's - That sounds like a huge red
flag, Salute Your Shorts on Nickelodeon. No,
I don't know. He was a childhood actor in the
90s and Melton actually has kind of poked fun
at him. So I had him come on the show and we
had a great interview, but - The first time he
was going to come on. And then at the last minute,
he's like, no, I'm too scared. I don't want to
do it. I was like, oh, so I had like hyped it
up the whole week. So did he tell you what he
was afraid of? He said he had anxiety. He thought
I was going to like people were going to make
fun of him and stuff. And so, you know, but we
don't do that. We respect our guests. Ashley
Cummings, the star of Well, I'd be the star of
MLC the past week. And for a lot of maybe some
of the wrong reasons, but no, we could talk a
little bit about that. But I do know you are
a yoga person. So before we get started, Kevin
Brennan didn't want to do this. I want to do
it. I hear this is how you get toxins out. So
can we do some breathing exercises to start?
Absolutely. Can I also get tell you a few of
the other benefits, please? OK, yes, absolutely.
So the two things that we do as human beings,
the two things we do the most as human beings
are standing and walking. And those are the two
things that we do the worst. We're the worst,
to get straight to breathing, we are the worst
breathers in the animal kingdom. We are primates.
So intentionally taking in deeper inhales through
your nose. and intentionally exhaling. 70 % of
toxins leave your body through the process of
exhale. Intentionally making sure all the air
is out when you breathe out. Lowers your blood
pressure. Yesterday was intense. I know you're
not gonna yell at me though. Lowers your blood
pressure, increases relaxation, increases efficiency
of the lungs, increases lung capacity. detoxifies
the blood, increases oxygen that needs to go
to all of the organs. So the benefits are many
and everlasting. So I would like us all to raise
our arms above our heads just as high as the
shoulders don't go up. So if the shoulders go
up, just keep them bent like this. We're just
going to lift up the arms. We're just going to
inhale through the nose. And try to send the
air a little lower. Notice your shoulders might
go up, sending it to the belly. Exhale all the
air out through the mouth. I think I did that.
Okay. Make sure I don't work on it. We have nine
more to go. Make sure we have nine more. Okay.
We're doing 10 remember. So it doesn't actually
really work until the first second thirds. Inhale,
slow through the nose. Take your time. Just try
to send the air to the belly. and exhale all
the air out and pull the belly in towards the
spine. Make sure there's no more air left. Sometimes
there's more air left. Okay, so we're all gonna
do it together eight more times. Everyone will
be breathing differently. So inhale through the
nose deep, exhale all the air out from the mouth.
We'll see each other in eight breaths. extending
exhalation also increases relaxation. You do
start to get it like the sixth or seventh one,
you start kind of feeling it like it's really
leaving the body, right? You're getting the stuff
out. I can feel it. And allow your body to relax,
allow the oxygen to go to the places that it
needs to allow all this to happen. Just allow.
Some people are really into this. Other people
are like, all right, see you later. This is,
this is important. Yoga is life. Don't let them
interrupt your breathing. Okay, sorry. You have
three more. Don't be sorry. Just don't let them
bother you. Breathe in deep, breathe out long.
Is it bad that I have the air conditioner like
really cranked up? Should I be doing hot yoga
when I do this or does that matter? We can talk
about that. I'm happy to talk about it, but I
want you to take two more deep inhales and complete
those for yourself, please. People are saying
you have taken control you are running this you
are the opi of this show now You are steering
the ship of everything that's going on I've I've
handed over the keys to the kingdom to to Ashley
but sometimes you gotta you gotta do that you
gotta be able to embrace things I would like
to Introduce a different perspective here. Dad
is a man a proper gentleman and he's also an
intelligent person who understands that not only
is He doing something that's good for his body.
He's introducing all of you guys. Hi, Citizen
M. He's introducing all of you guys to something
that, oh, sorry, that was not Citizen M. He's
introducing, he's giving you guys an option to
do something that will be beneficial for you.
So who's going to make fun of that? Chad? Sorry,
I had to. Do you think Chad does yoga? No, I
meant like the hypocrisy of today. Oh, yes. Go
ahead, please. It's your show, obviously. No,
that was great. So, you know, it's funny. Yoga
is one thing that I didn't get. It was as a man.
It's kind of like when you're growing up, you
know, I even remember gym class. Yoga was one
of the options. No guy is picking yoga, you know,
in high school gym. Well, wait, I don't know.
I'm 43. I don't know how old you are, but I feel
like guys come to yoga classes because they're
like I'm going to see a bunch of girls in like
tight clothes. Like that was a lot of the women
that I mean, the men that came to both of my
studios and a lot of my yoga classes. You were
never interested in it because you know, that's
what I was saying. When I was younger, I was
stupid. But then as I got older, late 20s, 30s,
I'm like, OK, now I want to get into yoga a little
bit because this this seems like where the Hall
of Hot chicks are in the tight clothes and everything.
And what's very interesting is yoga was designed
for men. Women were not allowed to do yoga until
Indra Devi came on the scene. Indra Devi went
to Krishnamurti and said, you have to teach me.
And he said, no, I won't teach you. And this
is circa the early, no, sorry, about 1930s, 40s.
He goes, no, I will not teach you. This is for
men. This is a practice for men. So that's where
people are like, she says yoga, she doesn't seem
so nice. Yogis are not nice. The whole Lululemon
thing happened. I've been an ambassador for them.
I've had a corporate sponsorship with them and
ELO. So there was a whole thing where yoga has
been around for 3 ,000 years. So it's going to
go through its ebbs and flows. Yes, it went through
a period where a lot of women were doing it.
But yogis are not nice. Yogis are very strong.
So Indra Devi went back. She's Russian. I love
some Russian people. Israelis and Russians. I
feel like they're straightforward in the way
that I am She wouldn't give up and she made him
teach her and then she's the one that started
teaching in Hollywood She taught Marilyn Monroe
a bunch of other celebrities in the 60s Interesting
now you do you do I heard you say before you
don't you're not into the beak room style of
yoga that is that's a completely different that's
not even the same universe if you will you guys
like that word that's not even the same universe
as as the lineage of yoga that i come from so
the linear i'm a uh direct lineage of patanjali
uh bikram did his own thing bikram is also uh
like a he's a it's it's not even the same if
they're two different worlds if that makes sense
i can go into deeper if you want but i feel like
people might get bored Victoria, who I think
is a yogi herself, she said something about panorama.
I prefer pranayama. Pranayama. That's Victoria.
So pranayama. Yeah, she's definitely a yogi.
Pranayama is the Sanskrit word for breath work.
Prana means your life force energy. Ayama means
management of. So it's literally the management
of your life force energy, which is your breath.
Pranayama. Obviously you are a yogi. You've got
the Zen of all of that. How did you, can I back
up real quick? Okay. Sure. Stop associating yoga
with Zen. That was something that was a billion
dollar concept for the nineties and two thousands,
or I guess like end of the nineties, two thousands.
So remember. And people made tons of money. Great
for them. But remember. A woman had to fight
to get into yoga in the 40s or the 50s. Indra
Devi, big ups always. So then they were like,
I'm sure someone was like, oh, we can make clothes
for these women and direct it towards women.
But what everyone should know is the truth. Yoga
was designed for men, wealthy men in India. The
way that we know the awesome. The higher caste
of men. It does not mean up or down, up or down,
up or down, down or down by the way. I'm just
trying to give the briefest, quickest thing.
I beg your pardon. So it was for like the upper
class of India. Is that what it was? It was actually
designed for 12 year old boys. So that's why
people, so Ashtanga is the closest thing. Ashtanga.
Ashtanga and Ashtanga Vinyasa, different things.
So the closest thing to Ashtanga is like power
yoga. They're all under the umbrella of Hatha
yoga. They're all in the lineage of Patanjali,
right? But what Ashtanga does, they force the
bodies into the positions. And what branched
off, which is called power yoga, vinyasa, all
these different names, same thing, same, same.
You let the bodies, let the poses work for the
bodies. Does that make sense? Because how many
people have the anatomical ability of a 12 -year
-old Indian boy? Not many people. That's why
people that take a Shtanga end up getting hurt
a lot. It was a thing for my studio. Our Shtanga
teachers just, they do very intense adjustments
and assists and people get hurt. Have you ever
taken yoga Dan? You know, I've done it sort of
just vocationally. I'm just not really the very
flexible So what do you what what flexibility
has absolutely nothing to do with yoga people
always say I can't touch my toes enough flexible
eyes nothing like warrior pose that's more of
my kind of that's nice and easy for me, but Would
you recommend for a beginner to like get into
yoga if you want it and then we'll go to other
topics Everybody's like oh, it's yoga talk I
actually do like yoga and one of my good friends
is really into yoga So she kind of got me into
it, but what would you what advice would you
give for beginners to get into it? Well, I want
to start my online beginners yoga thing because
beginners are my jam you guys are my favorite
virgins I can't tell you how many years I spent
like on teaching other teachers things, right?
Because it gets confusing and people listen to
other people, but yoga is a very amazing system.
It's a system designed to liberate you from your
thinking mind, as well as all the benefits that
you get physiologically. But I would recommend
a beginner's class if there's a studio near you.
Maybe your wife and you can go. OK, I like it.
So would you do a lot of private classes or you've
done like training for people? Is that accurate?
I've opened so I've opened melt. Sorry, I don't
mean to bring up Melton, but there are people
on the Internet like she's pretending to be a
yoga teacher. I've been teaching yoga for 18
years. I have opened, owned and operated by myself
two studios. Super successful. One was just breathe
in. Sunny Isles Beach, and then the other was
Agni in West Hollywood. So I closed my last studio
in 2017, the same year, yes, then my dad passed
away. So now I teach privately, I do consulting,
I teach at like corporate events, I teach at
like expos, there's something called Yoga Expo.
Okay, so this is circa 2021, I wanna say. How
did you get hooked up with this crazy guy, Chad
Zumach? Okay, so the background, the context
of this one, this is right. He found me, he emailed
me and asked me to be on Kevin Brennan's podcast.
I had no idea who Kevin Brennan was. And he was
like, he's Neil Brennan's brother. And I was
like, oh, I know Neil Brennan from my sister.
Like I've met him, whatever. I didn't know anything.
Can I ask you a question about, so I know you
don't want to talk too much about your sister,
but Who do you think is richer, Neil Brennan
or your sister? Well, it goes back to what Kevin
said when he says, he always cracks me up when
he says, female brain, 16 ,000 or something,
whatever that amount was for that movie. They
made that together, Neil and Whitney. I have
no idea. I have no idea actually. I don't even
know. I couldn't even think of a guess. So your
original question was, how did I get hooked up
with Chad? He emailed me and asked me to be on
Kevin Brennan's show. And I did that. And then
this episode, I believe, was like a month or
two after that Justice Fair coming from my father
thing. But did you find like a place in it that's
funny or something? Well, I just like just the
introduction was because it's funny for me having
watched Chad and how he's evolved over the last
three years. Oh, yeah, it's the Sit Down Zumach
podcast. It's me, the Z man, Florida's greatest
coming live and direct from Tampa, Florida with
my pal. You even had a vape back then, like nothing
changed. It looks like you're probably the same,
well, not different, probably a different couch,
but that's probably the same apartment, right?
No, no, no, no, no. That's my place in Venice,
first of all. And I was just going to say off
the bat, I look like a much less emotionally
regulated person. You looked very excited, very
happy. So. So you you went on with I wasn't unhappy
I felt like and he asked me to do a show and
I felt like I really did feel like at first Kevin
and Chad were my friends and until Chad like
tweeted wherever he tweeted today I kind of thought
he was my friend, but sorry you were saying something
Yeah, so so you did you did the shows with Kevin
and in Chad? What what what was kind of your
takeaway from like doing the shows like what
what what was that experience like initially?
Were you shocked that they wanted you on the
show? Do you know why? Was it because of your
sister or what? I was at that point. I was sorry.
At that point, Covid, I just kind of started
happening and I was I was starting to make yoga
videos. And I don't know, whatever people are
going to make a lot of fun of me for saying this.
But, you know, my father's passed away. But I
felt like my father was like, speak, like start
speaking. And I started to speak about. the situation
with my dad and my sister. I don't want to talk
about this too much, as I told you. And that's
how Chad found me. And I said, I'll do it under
one condition, that the episode is called Justice
for Eric Cummings. OK. What happened with your
father? He passed away from a stroke in 2017.
OK. So obviously, that's a difficult to find
moment. What? I said, that's obviously a difficult
thing to go through. impacted you for a very
long time why was his caretaker for two years
his stroke happened on uh may 16th of uh 2015
and he passed me first uh sorry uh 2017 and um
yeah so i was his caretaker yeah it was tough
he never left the hospital um yeah well that
that's you know that that's amazing that you
you know you you were able to be there for him
and and all that you did and um you know and
obviously by this at this point it's you know
after covid it seems like you kind of came out
of your shell a little bit and um what was kind
of your what was kind of your goal with this
are you are you trying to become like a an online
person or what was your kind of goal with doing
these shows i want to make something something
super clear i do not want to be famous the only
reason i'm on your show as you know is because
you're paying me paying me the only reason i
do anything is because i'm being paid That one
was about my father. At that point in time, it
was 2020. And my sister and I had spoken. And
actually, just FYI, the last time my sister and
I were together, she was like, we're sitting,
we're in a kitchen. And she was like, I'm just
like deciding whether or not to make you famous.
I was like, no, no, no, no. I don't want to be
famous. I want to be your ninja behind the scenes.
I never, ever wanted to be famous. I never wanted
to live in LA. The reason I moved to LA is because
our mom had a stroke and she wanted me to come
out here and be a family, et cetera. So I've
never wanted to be famous. I don't want to be
famous. I just want to have a happy, peaceful
life. Did that answer the question? Yeah, that's
great. Do you like living in LA? What's the LA
experience like for you? I don't like living
here. I wish I could, I would like to, I would
ideally love to move. For my birthday last year,
I went to Carmel, which is incidentally where
you've been there. I've driven, yeah, I've been
there once or twice. It's, it's gorgeous. It's
incidentally where that actor that Clint Eastwood
lives. But it's so beautiful. Like, like, like
that is more my vibe. Right? Um, this place is
not like, uh, you know, LA is, I found a cool
little place and I'll, I'll make myself happy
anywhere I am. Um, but, um, and I liked the place
that like the little neighborhood that I live
in now, but yeah, LA is a 10 miles of rough road
and I would not call myself like an LA person
at all. Um, somebody was talking about crystal
therapy. I mean, that's just ignorant, ignorant,
meaning you're lacking knowledge. Crystals have
power. It's. It's like just a known fact. Sorry,
go ahead. So what sort of crystal like are there
specific crystals that you use or like what are
what are crystals? How do crystals fit into like
your your whole thing like her being into crystals
on MLC today that you and I were kind of watching
together her being into crystal says everything
and crystals are very healing and powerful. I
am not a licensed crystal therapist, but I've
been to crystal therapists and they've been very
helpful. and I have crystals and sometimes if
I don't feel well I'll put like a rose quartz
on my tummy which is where my like belly chakra
is or I'll like put something like um kyanite
on my throat chakra like around my throat that
helps you with your communication and stuff and
it could be a placebo effect which is also is
not a bad thing either if it if it mentally gets
you right I mean like there's a lot of things
that are like that and I don't necessarily believe
it's a placebo but uh you know That's what some
people will say, but whatever whatever makes
you happy, you know, I've always felt like attracted
to rocks and crystals and stuff since I was like
a kid. Yeah, just like not nature and stuff like
this. Do you do anything other spiritual things
like somebody said? Do you do terrible spiritual?
I don't even really talk about being a yoga teacher
that much. I just try to offer information. I
don't like the word spiritual. I don't use the
word namaste very often. I don't like love and
light. I've never actually written that. If somebody
writes love and light, that's a red flag to me
because a lot of that community got hijacked,
I feel mentally, in terms of control and moving
people the way that people are moved in societies.
I feel that's why I didn't want to like when
we were messaging. I didn't want to say namaste.
I felt like that was kind of a cliche thing to
say it. I don't even know what it means. Like
it seems like it's the most overused term. I
don't even know what it means. What does it mean?
You want to know what it means? Yes, I do. Yeah,
absolutely. It means the light within me honors
and recognize the same light that is within you.
It's a really beautiful thing, actually. But
yes, anything that is like part of the oversaturated
You know over like kind of like that. Literally
the yoga world in general. I don't really tell
people teach yoga like people know who I am and
I've done a lot in my life, but I don't advertise
myself so much as a yoga teacher, especially
recently besides like trying to sell classes
on zoom and stuff. Now see you found your way
into this world. This little Internet culture
world and it seems like you went from kind of
being sort of a semi known person to being like
everybody knows who Ashley Cummings is now. What
is what does that feel like to be sort of like
a known person amongst this little weird Internet
subculture? I don't I don't. I'll say this so.
I think when I thought we were live for five
minutes before, by the way, I really like that
you do that with guests, that you talk to them
before, because I think it's really helpful to
set the vibe and thank you for that. So as I
said before, I think the last time I was on Kevin's
podcast properly, I was like, what is the dabble
verse? And everyone's like, it's like a joke.
So I was really hurt. by a lot of things that
happened. And I actually would go as far to say
as it was, I felt traumatic and overwhelming,
but that all these like people not only did like
really cool people kind of pop up or pop into
my life, which half of them might be like working
me or whatever. But There are some very funny
pockets of this, and it is kind of like this
funny inside inside inside joke. Before I was
on this earlier today, I was like, I think it
would be so hilarious if all these like like
Joe Rogan and all these other people like everyone
just stopped watching them and started watching
the album. Yeah, that would be that would be
something. Yeah, I think it's in alignment with
how things are going right now, if that makes
sense. Like people are connecting in different
ways. I didn't mean to interrupt you. Liban says
she's funnier than Whitney. I'll give her that.
We don't want to say anything bad about Whitney.
She's her own person. So you said you like some
of the dabble verse people. You found some of
them funny. What do you like? What do you Who
do you find funny names at this point? I'm saying
that people who have told me specifically not
to name names and Dan, you've been like this
too. This was secret week. You know what I'm
talking about? I know. Oh yes. Okay. I'm not
going to say anything, but I'm saying kind people
have like found me and been kind and I will not
say their names, but I appreciate all of you.
Would you say there's more positivity or more
negative negativity? What's, what's kind of the
ratio that you've seen so far? It's such a good
question. Well, at first I felt like it was so
negative and so mean and literally deleterious.
Like I was like, this is, you know, and obviously
my coming from, and you guys can make fun of
me forever, coming from my family of attorneys,
I was just like, this, this is not right. And
I am a woman of principle, off of all of it,
but there's nothing that's like just inherently
really cruel and unusual about this. And I think
everyone saw that. But now it's just kind of
like funny. And I think there are loving aspects
to it. But again, like I'm brand new, if that
makes sense. So I'm trying to find the funny
part. Like you and I were texting today and a
lot of the things were funny. If if you were
like, I don't know, I'm questioning myself on
all of this, to be to be totally honest. No,
I think and I think you have a funny can we play
that for them? Which one? Oh, I have something
else we can play and it won't it won't get struck
the AI that that song do you see the song? So
he texted me and he said Ashley Kevin wouldn't
play it But you just know and I have the I can
screenshot it for you if you want He's like it's
a hundred percent for you. I'll never like copyright
it. Do you want me to send you the message? It's
the song why can't we be friends? Is that is
that what you're talking about? Thank you Like
that was creative and funny and impressive. And
then the other thing was create like creative
and funny and impressive. And that's different
than, you know. OK, no, no, no, no, not that
one. Not that one. OK, hold on. Let me send this
to you. The one that Kevin wouldn't play yesterday
because he thought it was. Oh, my gosh, there's
so many fake accounts that I can't even. So he
thought that, OK. The guy that made is Tommy
Michael McNutty. Let me just send this to you.
OK. He says, I love what you did. This song is
just for you and Kevin. Just so you know, do
you know what I'm saying? I'm texting you this
way. If you haven't seen this, it's it's it's
one of the funniest things literally. We were
the song, though. It's so it's so funny. Some
background music. Wait, how do I send it to you,
though? You can use. Can you? Yeah, I just message
you on Twitter. I sent you a screenshot of Twitter.
Can you just go to Twitter? It's on his page.
OK, I don't see a way to share it. That's fine.
Let me pull up my phone so. It's worth it, I
promise. And it's a good segue, I think Tommy
Michael Mc. Null T. Okay. He said, why just setting
the screenshot? Anyway, it's it's it's a song
that's solely and completely yours. Kevin has
nothing to worry about. So you can play it. Yeah,
it should be under his thing. I think I retweeted
it. But I, I take tweets down. I mean, I go in
and out of this feeling comfortable in this whole
thing. Do you see the one with the one with Mr.
kill everything fallen over? Is that Or it's
something different. It's like a three minute
song. And it's it's so fucking funny. It's an
A .I. song, obviously. He made it with A .I.
It's I don't know. He messages me. Did you do
you see it? No. Hold on a second here. I don't
know how to background. He starts with Red Bar
2, which is hilarious for me. Something for you.
There it is. Is this what he looked like at your
house after the bottle and a half of whiskey?
Um he never like I didn't see him that that like
that. No. Oh yeah. I just applied for a person
along with chase for a super. I love that he's
like about to pass out, but he's still reaching
for that whiskey. He's got to get one more last
one in before, uh, before the eyes close. No
more drinking is the kill. I love that though.
With eyes wide open, it sounds kind of like a
creed, uh, influence there. I love you. Just
disappear. Just where did he go? How is that
a green screen? That is not a green screen. If
he disappears off, am I right or am I wrong?
And the mic goes in and out. He could have used
that. Yeah, I talked about before. Yeah, so.
Love it through and should I call the police?
That's a final boss. Could you imagine, you know,
and I don't want to, I don't want to bag on Mr.
Kill too much, but I would be, if that something
like that, if I was looking like that on the
internet, I'd probably have a rethinking of some
things. Yeah. I don't want to bag on him either.
And I feel bad that I yelled at him. I think
I, did I say that publicly on the show yet? I
said it on Kevin's. I think I said it to you.
backstage, I feel bad for snapping at him, but
he just really wouldn't listen. And that's a
triggering thing for me in general. But yeah,
I mean, I think that I mean, I don't know if
he knows what he's doing. I had no idea about
a lot of this stuff. I didn't follow him or watch
him or anything. Right. So yeah, I think the
best thing that there might be something romantic
like. when he came to visit, like were you, like
if things played a certain way, maybe like not
that, not that, and I don't mean to like, I'm
not saying that you're like, that that was the
intention, but you know, like, like it's a long
distance sort of thing. You know, he comes to
visit, you know, Hey, you go out on a date and
you know, he's handsome and not that you're like,
and once again, nothing salacious, but yeah,
that there might be like a, like a spark potentially
like was there kind of that thought or. you know,
or was it more to get to know him? Like, what
were you kind of training? Hi, Citizen M, I love
you. Sorry, I had to do that. So that's a great
question. He, but I have like so many answers.
I don't want to be negative. So in the week and
a half or the preceding 10 days before he came,
you know, he started like, we started like just
texting and talking and I didn't really know
much about him again, right? The one thing for
me was like, oh, he's not this angry person.
I didn't see him be like super drunk or anything.
Um, he was trying to quit smoking cigarettes.
He was telling me a lot of positive things that
I hope he continues to have positive things happen
to him. Always. I hope that for everyone, by
the way. Um, but, uh, so yeah, there could have
been, but, oh, so I was like, I called it all
off. I was like, hey, this is not a good idea.
I felt just like it was too much too fast. And
then he was like, hey, I'm so sorry. I want to
back down. I want to slow down. And that's what
was frustrating me earlier. Like she was grifting
him for for my place. He didn't even pay to stay
at my place. He was like, and if you want me
to stay in a hotel, I'll be happy to stay in
a hotel. I I was like, well, I'm actually, you
know, again. not ashamed to be needing money
right now, renting out possibly my I would have
to interview them, but my living room. So it's
like instead of staying in a hotel, you can pay
me and stay on the couch. He never paid me for
that, by the way, which is fine. But so, yeah,
he paid for anything that he bought. Did he take
it? Did he pay for the lunch or the dinner? He
paid for lunch. He paid for like dog food, potatoes,
whiskey and wine at the grocery store. But that's
it. And then, um, what was I going to say? Uh,
so yes, theoretically, maybe they're first of
all, this, I don't, I would never be interested
in someone that I, that I haven't smelled. Pharaonyms
are a thing. There are also blood types that
are not even supposed to meet or like be together.
Right. So I would never, and also I need to know
someone, I need to get to know somebody, like,
um, I need to be friends with somebody to like,
hang out with somebody and really get to know
them before I would consider dating someone.
Yeah. You got to get the vibes. Like you can
talk on the phone and all that, but until you're
like with someone face to face and you can smell
them, touch them, see them. It doesn't really
feel real. Have you ever been with somebody?
I know you're married, but like before that,
like, have you ever been with somebody that like,
they they might look great, or you might feel
great about around them, or even you have great
conversations and are all of that, but there's
a smell. And it's not that they necessarily have
bad hygiene. It's just literally an anatomical
thing. Like our bodies are so intelligent that,
like, we know who we're not supposed to basically
sleep with, etc. So there would have been, you
know, there there was a like, I mean, if he had
shown up and been, I mean, yes, there, there,
there could have been, but the plan was, we are
friends. Why can't we be friends? Right. So that
was the plan. Um, I think that's a good, did
I answer? Yeah. When did, when did it become
clear that, you know, this was going to be maybe
before he got here, but definitely when he walked
out of his car. And I don't want to be rude,
I'm just answering the question. What was it
about that told you? Was it just your instinct
or was there anything like that just jumped out
or just like, this is going to be an interesting
weekend and maybe slightly awkward? 100 % everything
that you just said. Again, I don't want to, I
hope that he'll just stop lying about dating
me or whatever. Maybe he was confused. Um, yeah,
I mean, I mean, Dan, you're asking me something
that you know, like, Dan, I'll send you something
privately that will answer the question. I don't
want to, I don't want to, I don't, I don't want
to make a bad spot. Frankly, as a human being,
I think the focus, if any, on MKE should be like,
if, you know, people love him and stuff, like
maybe helping him with production or some kind
of thing. I think he'll be happier in his life.
And maybe, um, that could be great for everyone.
I've actually talked to him about that because
I'm one who will have you because it's a very
typical thing to do. Yeah. I'm not a big like
AA person. I mean, it works for some people,
but I'm more of a taper yourself off, kind of
get control of your life. You know, you can,
you can enjoy things, but you just have to, you
can't get to that point. Like it's a very brave
thing for you to have done that though, because
it's a very difficult thing to talk to someone
about. Yeah. Yeah, and I mean, I'm not like a
friend. I'm just like an internet person. But
you know, like, when you see somebody struggling,
you want to Yeah, and I feel like a lot of people,
I don't know, one thing that I heard, I heard
myself twice there. But one of my one thing that
two or three people said are like, Ashley, all
these people tell him to drink and encourage
him to drink more. And I'm like, yeah, that's
it. It's not my business. But If I cared about
him, or if I was a person that was in his community,
I wouldn't do that. Is there anyone else that
you would like? I saw you on a stream one time
with Chad and you said, hey, if you're ever in
LA, you could crash on my couch to him. That
might not be open anymore after today. No, it's
absolutely not open after he tweeted about me
today. After he tweeted about me today, like,
what was that? Okay, so can we go through this?
Can you explain it to your audience? Because
I feel like if I say it, it's gonna come off
wrong. Can you explain how funny it was? What
happened today? Because you and I were texting,
you were sidebar. Yeah, so so it was first off
like let's let's let everybody know i've been
i've been talking to you communicating you for
with you for a couple weeks right even before
i think it was even before well i'm trying to
think what is mr murr uh dr chow time right yeah
yeah i i think and i you know you know what's
funny you know how i did this because somebody
flashed your phone number up or something on
the screen so i just like i just like text you
as hey you know i'd love to have you on the show
sometime and i don't even think you responded
right away but eventually you responded and um
so and and you were you to your credit you are
like a really open honest fun you know good good
good personality person and um so yeah yeah you
know if we can make it work that'd be great and
then and then all this other sort of drama started
happening kind of behind the scenes and i'm like
oh just things have changed a little bit and
um and and so i'm sure people are thinking oh
Dan's trying to you know clout chase this thing
and i mean a little bit because you're, you know,
your, your people are talking about you, but
more of a, you know, you've always been an interesting,
cool person. I wanted to have on the show, but
today was funny because your appearance yesterday
with Kevin sort of, uh, and I watched the whole
thing. Well, I mean, it all, I mean, well, it
first started with the Mr. Kill thing, which
we don't want to rehash too much of that, but
you basically, at like four in the morning accosted
him or not. Well, you got on with MLC. Yeah.
So 3 .30 AM on the East coast, which a lot of
us I was up for. And you came in, you came in
hot as a hot as a pistol. Kevin, I don't know.
I don't want to show myself. I don't want to
show myself. I don't have my makeup on. And he's
like, I need to see you or else I could put you
on and. and you were just shut the fuck up, you
know, stop saying we're dating and, and even
he was still, and I don't know if it was, I mean,
he'll say it was, he was drunk, but he was still
kind of holding onto this little fable that he
had kind of created because I'm not sure. Like
that's one of the reasons I feel bad. Like in
that, in that conversation. And I, I, I could
have been more graceful. I was just like, shut
up, shut up. It was very frustrating because
he wasn't listening. And then he kept repeating.
And even Kevin was like, shut up. Let her talk.
And he's like, well, I did lie about that. I
didn't lie. I did lie. So I mean, I shouldn't
have gotten so upset. But I also didn't understand
that he didn't have a grasp on his mental fortitude,
if you will, if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah,
he was he definitely did not have a grasp so
then I don't know if it was today that I texted
you or yesterday But I said hey, you know cuz
and we'll and I have some clips We'll maybe play
about kind of like your appearance, but Kevin
was sort of weaseling out Wow, I didn't you know,
we didn't you know the degree to this and you
were like no we had 25 % and so The funny thing
like of all of this and I think we were messaging
back and forth is you've got Chad you've got
Kevin Who are just like, she's a grifter. She's
a cloud chaser. What? No, you just want to get
paid. What he told you to go on the show. Like
you're doing it the right way. If the financial
structure was changing, I feel like as in this
situation, as my employer or boss, or as he called
himself the boss, isn't that on him to tell me
that it's going to be different? Yeah, you had
a verbal agreement, like a virtual handshake,
let's call, on a contract to work and to be compensated
for it. And not to mention, I have done four
shows for him for free. Yeah, you did four shows
for free. The last two shows you had got huge
bumps, huge audience. People were super chatting.
People were into it. Um, people were like, you
know, entertained. Some people liked you. Some
people didn't like you, but that's, you know,
and I say this to people all the time. Oh, Dan,
everybody hates you. I'm like, as long as like
a 40 % like me and 60 % hate me, if you have
some feeling about me, that's good. Like as long
as you, you care and you're not a different,
you're, you're, you're bringing up some something.
Yeah. So it's okay to hate me. I don't, you know,
you don't have to like me. Um, but then you just
brought up, I, sorry, let me go on. finish. But
can we get back to the 4060 thing after you're
done? Sorry. Okay, it's a new thing that you
brought that up. Okay, so yeah, we'll get back
to that. What I would so what what I said after
I watched the show, I was kind of like, a little
bit pissed. Because he was making you feel bad
about just wanting to confirm because it really
that's what you're doing. You were confirming
with him. This is the great like I'm working
I'm giving you two hours of my time or whatever,
whatever it was two and a half hours. I'm generating
revenue for you you gave I came on with the understanding
that I was being compensated for a percentage
of this and all you were doing was confirming
it and then the other thing the whiskey thing
which he said on stream Clip I do twice doom
could probably pull the clip. He said it twice
maybe three times Oh, you know because he felt
bad. He's like I'll pay back for the whiskey
And then he's like, I'm going to end up paying
for this whiskey. I actually thought that was
funny. Sorry. Yeah. And you, and you were, and
also you're being a little playful too about
it. I mean, like, but he got, every time you
bring up money with Kevin, he gets super sensitive.
I'm not going to say what we, the analogy we
use, but he acts like a certain demographic when
money and dollars start coming into a equation
and it isn't quite Irish. But one of the things
that I wanted to make sure that you saw was the
play board site because Kevin So Kevin is obsessed.
Oh, wow So you can look at any stream and you
could see what he made in super chats and he's
confirmed Because I one time I sent him a super
chat. I said, oh you only made 200 bucks yesterday
He's like, well, how did how did nice podcast
stupid know how much I made? and then he found
out about this play board site and he calls me
out on it sometimes just nice podcast stupid
making it yeah, because I'm just getting my monetization
back now. I just finally am getting the hours.
So I haven't been making any money. But yesterday
you were on $817 was what he grossed. So that's
what that number is in super chat. So anytime
you see the $5 question, is that after YouTube
takes the 30 %? No, it's the, it's the, it's
the gross. So it's before that. So he actually,
to his credit, and I think we confirmed this
with you, he gave you 20 % of the gross. was
what i think we did the math on it was like 160
or yeah 164 or something or something so yeah
so but but you know what if you didn't pester
him about it and confirm that he would have you
know put it back on you to like ask for it or
he would have pretended like he didn't say it
and because he's notorious for that raid i don't
know if you know ray devito He stopped paying
Ray DeVito because he got pissed at him and then
Ray Kevin likes to take advantage of people and
if you don't assert yourself Then he won't pay
you so you're crudos to you credit you I wish
more people did that in fact I hope more people
see what you did and demand You know, maybe not
the same thing. Maybe he's not gonna pay people
20 % but that they go on and say Kevin, I'm going
to do your show for two hours, but you're going
to pay me a hundred bucks. You're going to pay
me 20 percent or you're going to pay me this.
And put it put. I mean, he he would not have
got the eight hundred seventeen dollars without
you yesterday. I mean, it was all you. You were
driving a lot. I mean, think of all the super
chats. They were all about talking about you.
So kudos to you on and on on his show. And people
were messaging me that he made more money on
Saturday night than he's ever made on a live
show. he never would have paid me if I didn't
text him. And I texted him like, Hey, like, all
these people are telling me how much money you
keep talking about you made. Could you send me
something? And he sent me 100 bucks for Saturday,
which I appreciate, but he would not have sent
me a penny if I didn't ask for it. And again,
I'm not doing anything for free. $1922 on Saturday.
That's it. That's it. That's a great amount of
money to me. He made his not he as he likes to
say like Well, I think what we wanted to get
to is that Chad is behind my back but publicly
tweeting that I'm Like I don't know something
whatever derogatory thing He said because I asked
Kevin and I didn't even ask I literally was clarifying
I thought like I was kind of surprised when he
was like 25 % I was like what I did it change
like I didn't understand so But yeah, let's talk
about Chad a little bit. How we do that is making
fun of me for just being very shamelessly needing
to make money and, uh, trading my time for it
at this point. Um, and, and then he goes over
to Melton's thing who he like talks about so
terribly. Yeah. He said, I'm never doing super
tips, whatever, but I thought he was standing
up for me to melt in two weeks ago. So I like
had Chad's back. You know what I mean? I'm a
very loyal person. You are and I haven't been
on Twitter really today. Yeah, so this El horrible.
This is a he's the guy that has the puppet He's
a dabble verse guy. So doom did a clip and we're
gonna play the doom clip in a second This is
that this is what this is what we're all building
up to we're we're getting to where we're gonna
get to to the culmination of everything here
But doom is a clipper and he clipped you yesterday
He called it the nagging. He called you a nagger
He already clipped you he called you the net
that nagging the nagging Because you're a woman
and you dared to get your fair share and to assert
yourself Once again, I hope everybody learns
from this experience and that they they I hope
I hope we get more nagging actually I hope everyone
that goes on the Kevin Brennan MLC show is a
nagger and Make sure that they get their fair
share before they go on the show. So he clipped
it that everybody all these other people these
other these know -it -alls they all jump in and
they all pig piled on you which i thought was
hilarious because all you were doing was trying
to get get paid right you you were in and what
you were promised wait wait wait there was a
caveat by the way when i asked him about paying
me for saturday he goes yeah i'll pay you but
you have to come on the show this week oh into
going this week i wasn't really wanting to go
on so i was like I think I sang a song like,
because at one point I felt like overwhelmed
with negativity from his people. And I was like,
after this I get paid and I thought it would
be 25 % like per usual. Yeah, so yeah, so he
gives you the 100 bucks, but then but he's got
to give a caveat. He has to, you know, make it
dependent on something else. Because that's what
he does. He's a manipulator. He's a master manipulator.
He does that. And instead of people coming to
your defense, people that you thought were your
friends, like Chad Zumock, they are they can't
wait to pig pile on you. I'm just seeing right
here. This is a bad look for Ashley. This is
the guy who is not on my side. I have learned
about a lot of haters, which isn't a panhandler
guy on my side. No, it's not, I guess. And yet
she's more entertaining than a Muppet because
this guy does the Muppet thing. So I think he's
kind of, he likes the lady. So I think he's on
your side. Mule says, let the woman do her, I
think he meant to say her thing, do your thing.
No, they're calling me a trans person. So I think
he meant to say it. Oh, really? Well, that's,
yeah, I'd like to see who, Mule is going home
to every night, but that's a whole nother story.
I mean, I feel like I'm thin. I could go for
I could pass as like a European boy, but like
I'm very clearly a woman. You're way fish. You
know, like, you know, we should all look so good
when we're in our 40s. Dang lizard has a good
comment. Yeah. Why pay if you can just exploit
them, which is what he's like, it's kind of a
tongue in cheek of that's what Kevin likes to
do. He likes to exploit people. So but this had
to be clear. It was funny today, but he did pay
me and he always I mean, Since you know, he's
been paying me he pays me and he pays me the
next day and I appreciate that Okay, but Chad
so Kevin actually Comes out okay on this because
he did pay you even though he kind of you know
made it You know, you look foolish a little bit,
but he paid you and you got what was coming to
you. So that's good We made sure that happens,
but Chad's not my friend like we're friends.
So As much as you could be a friend with a guy
who's kind of a jackass like he's you know as
as much as you can call a friend but but he he
did right by you Chad zoom mark on the other
hand what a fucking snake this guy is change
the shark to a snake. Back stabs you this is
a bad look for Ashley Chad just lost his super
chats this week he was going on shows saying.
I won't do my show unless people pay my bills,
pay my telephone bill, pay my internet bill.
Are you not allowed to say what he actually said?
No, what did he actually say? You can say it.
I've never heard a man say this. You cover my
nut. You cover my nut. Yeah, that was a little
weird for a supposedly heterosexual man to say.
Who did not say tweets that I have a bad look?
By just asking for money that I thought was owed
under, uh, like a verbal agreement. Yeah. Yeah.
So he, so the thing with Chad, so this is what
you're going to learn about Chad. Everything
is a projection with Chad. So anything that he
has is cause he has a lot of insecurities. So
he's insecure about himself now because he can't
make money. So he looks at you and it's like,
Oh, she's a grifter. She's a, you know, a nagger.
She's a, this, that's a bad look for Ashley.
all you were doing was asking for you asking
for your nut, you know, asking for your money.
So it's just funny how it happened because I
think that it was right after I said I get paid
after all of this and then Kevin made a joke
and he was like, a hooker once said that she
was a hooker once said that song after I was
with her or something. And I said, what 25 %
and I did not think that that was going to catch
him off guard. If that makes sense. I was caught
off guard. So anyway, Yeah, yeah. He made that.
It wasn't kind of a funny quip. It's like, yeah,
the Vegas hooker said that to me, too. You know,
I get 100 bucks. And if I just stick through
for an hour or whatever, I don't like the funny
stuff. I don't know. But this is so this is the
nagging. So he said, Ash, digital pant, digital
panhandler Ashley Cummings in big letters, shamelessly
nagging Kevin Brennan for money. So that's that's
the question. Here's the thing. Yeah, I guess.
Go ahead. Sorry. No, no, no. Go ahead. I was
going to say, like, shamelessly, like they're
acting like I'm pretending like I'm not very
openly in need of money and any way that I can
get it pretty much. Ozone says, Dan, ask Ashley
how she thinks Kevin will react to this discussion
you've been having. I think this is a friend
today. He called you a cunt. Yes, you didn't
hear it. No, I missed that part. He goes fucking
con. He was like, I'll send you the money in
July. And then I like looked at my PayPal because
I was like, was it Kevin that sent it to me?
I was like, I was like, did somebody like be
nice, like out of nowhere? Because that doesn't
happen very often. But it was Kevin. He does
love to call women the C word. He's I've seen
him drop that a lot. It's kind of weird. But
it's to answer the question. I'm sure Kevin won't
care or pay attention. And he called me a cunt
today. So JJG. So shout out to Devin. Those tootsies
dooms are doom. This is the person who did the
clip. You should have shame for begging this
pathetically, he says. That's that's doom. OK,
that's your opinion. I have zero shame. I have
a dog and myself to take care of. So Yeah, what
did what did? You want to cover my nut I Like
Ashley as a guest on MLC to yeah doom you want
to cover her nut What did MKC say about your
dog oh That was stupid. I shouldn't I shouldn't
have overreacted about that, but I don't know
what he was saying, but what triggered me is
so Someone texted me, Ashley MKE is on MLC talking
about you like you're in a relationship and he's
talking about your dog. And I like I love all
animals, but obviously my dog is my favorite
dog on the planet. But so I was like, what? And
I guess he was just saying, I don't know. Like,
again, I think he was trying to create some lore
that didn't exist, but I shouldn't have reacted
the way that I did. But he was like, I walked
her dog. I think that was it. We walked in from
lunch and my dog had had an accident and I was
like, are you okay to go walk him so I can clean
this up? It's obviously easier to clean something
up immediately when you get home and see it.
And if it's possible, the dog is out there or
whatever. If I had come home from lunch alone,
for example, I probably would have just closed
that door and cleaned it up. when Hondo is in
the other room, et cetera. What is cover her
nut, pay her expenses? That's what Schwab said
about when he was going on and on about how he
was justifying going over to Melton's super tip
system. And also, I love Melton. I think he's
amazing and he's my new favorite teacher. And
like, I feel like I want to go super tips. But
so he was talking about he would be in that justification
video. And I a couple of people were like, don't
do it. Don't do it. And the chat and he was like,
are you going to cover my nut? Are you going
to cover my nut? So that's what that reference
was. I think that's what Chad says to Nick Swanson
when they go to Key West. You're going to cover
my nut, Nick. Yeah, so and also but you owe me
for the bottle of whiskey too, don't you? He
said you would pay for it Yeah, well, I say a
lot of times I already paid for that Friday night
and He had picked out a restaurant that he wanted
to go to so he went to this restaurant That was
awesome. By the way, and then all the way here
Did you guys go to Olive Garden? That's hilarious
that he said that. I didn't hear him say that
at the time. You have good lines in this. Yeah,
totally. That's what I'm saying. There's so many
pockets of funny jokes in the jokes, but no,
it was a really, really nice place. Can you get
me a bottle of whiskey? I forgot. I was at Trader
Joe's anyway. By the way, I'm a good host. You
said it was very nice of you to let... Mr. MK
severe house, but also he still owes you the
money for it. What I said, no. So you're taking
things out of context. He said, should I get
a hotel room? And I said, I would prefer if you
slept on my couch, which I literally have listed
because I am. How much does it cost to sleep
on your couch, Ashley? What's the going rate?
$3 ,000 a month. And my friends were giving me
ideas like, Ash, you could run out. And my friend
said you should do it for about half. It was
$1 ,500 a month was what I had. It's not listed
anymore, obviously. But I'm just figuring things
out. And then someone wants to move here for
the month of July, who I know very well. But
anyway, it was $1 ,500. That was what the listing
was. So I don't know what that would have been.
your nights, you're better at math than me. So
you so you'd share like your so same bathroom,
same kitchen, same everything, but you just sleep
on the couch. Is that how it works? The whole
the whole like thing was kind of ridiculous.
Another thing that is important to mention is
I was in a relationship for three years and we
were living together for the last two years.
So I was also in this transition period of my
ex moving out. Obviously, we had some issues
at the end. But I was just like looking around
and I was like, I could figure this out, like
friends were like, you can rent out your like,
I was like, but the listing was ridiculous. It
was like, must love dogs. I was like, basically,
you get to like exist on the couch. Like, yeah,
it's not a, it's not a good idea. Someone could
sleep on the couch for Hondo gets to do whatever
he wants. I mean, like who wants to rent that?
Who wants to? I mean, it would probably work.
It's really, really tough in LA for people to
live here and survive. It's really tough. I actually
got three or four responses from people that
were willing to pay $1500 to live on the couch.
One person asked if they could bring an air mattress.
Be careful like you can only because one of my
friends that owns a house and she fronts out
her house to people whatever so she was like
Ash you might have to make sure that they only
bring two suitcases it was it got overwhelming
and I also all my stuff is here like I can't
you know trust for me is a thing so I don't even
know if I would have been able to sleep you know
but thankfully things are going they're getting
good A lot of these people in flyover country,
and I say that lovingly, they don't understand
what it's like in these big cities. Like 3000
rent is very common. I mean, it's crazy, right?
Wait, you think it's common? I think it's highway.
It's insane. No, I think it's insane. No, but
I'm saying big cities are saying. Yeah. Yeah.
Like I lived in Boston a couple of years ago
and my rent was 3500 and then they kept jacking
it up every year and I'm like I I'm gonna just
get a house like I even though this is like a
really nice you know luxury apartment they called
it although I don't know how luxury it was but
it's like I don't know who can and I have a good
job I don't know who can afford to live like
that it's crazy I don't know who is paying it
was here on purpose you know the story of why
I'm in this specific apartment is a long story
that I want to get into now let's finish doom's
clip big up Make money a lot of it as much as
I can all the time right now And so I said, why
don't you sleep on my couch and pay me instead
of paying a hotel? Does that make sense? Do set
up a Venmo set up a Venmo. It's much easier Yeah,
we got to get you a Venmo Ashley. You got it.
We got to get that So by the way, this is a good
segue. So at the bottom so Ashley Cummings so
PayPal is the best way to um to make uh financial
um uh what would you call it donations tip like
a tip chart gifts yes and thank you so so much
yeah veniceashley727 at gmail you're on youtube
instagram x you've got the studio can we like
if i want if i was out in l .a could i get like
yoga classes or how do you do that how does that
work yeah 100 so i told you i closed my uh last
studio in 2017 But I do group classes. I do privates
100 % and I would be happy to give you a free
private class with your wife if you want. OK,
awesome. I don't know if I think I'll stay at
a hotel though. I don't think we'll. My apartment.
I don't think I'm gonna invite anyone over anytime
soon that I've not met in person first. Setting
it up and then you promise me will put the banner
underneath. Yeah, thank you. Who do I have up
now? Keanu. The whole show. I didn't even pay
attention. Uh, there's Chad. He probably, uh,
and then I wait, why would permacil finishing?
I feel like that's the husband. And then I got
to put up by the way, the permacil finishing
guy is really nice. He actually sent my cohost,
um, a gift card, some cash. He's very, very generous
and very nice guy. He actually wrote like a little
handwritten letter to my cohost. By the way,
she's traveling so she, she couldn't be here.
She Sends her regards. She was hoping to see
you but maybe maybe maybe we'll have you back
on and you can be on with Deb She's a sweetheart.
But yeah, this permacil guy is Really nice guy.
I think he's like a boomer probably like a 60
year old guy and he loves he well He sends a
lot to Kevin. So he he definitely helped Kevin
make the nut as uh, that's they say No, he does
not he's number number three in the country and
comedy Number three in the world. Number three
in the world in comedy streams. And I gotta put
up Diablo Doom or else they'll sue me. Oh gosh.
I don't know, I don't think it was, it's not
at work is it? You were really mad at him, right?
So I haven't really, whatever, I'm getting paid
after this. That's all I'm focused on. Let's
just go back. This is my favorite part of the
whole thing. Whatever, I'm getting paid after
this. That's all I'm focused on right now. What
was a work? What are you saying? Wait, you just
sang a song about getting paid? I just reminded
myself that even though some of these things
don't feel very nice, I get paid after this.
So when this is all over, when the episode is
over. I was with a hooker one time and she sang
the same song while she was with me. What I was
with a hooker one time in Vegas and she sang
the same song I'm getting paid after this so
it's not a After this I get paid and none of
you guys do You must have any time you start
singing that song that's like yeah, yeah, I'm
really happy to be here Just one more hour and
I get my money It's 634 I'm getting paid after
this and none of you are paying me, but I told
I won't tell them. Sorry. Go ahead. Who's asking
you that? Someone in the chat asked. We are definitely
paying. I am definitely paying Ashley. I have
your PayPal and we will make you right after
the show. So but we're not going to tell you
how much you've got to negotiate yourself. If
you want the great Ashley Cummings on your show.
You got to get into a negotiation. You got to
figure out what it takes to get the lovely Ashley
Cummings. So I'm not going to, I'll never tell.
Drunken, get berated by evapid Westcoats. Stop.
He said it's peak. That means good. Can I say
something? You did a good job. I tried seven
times to do the joke where you kept talking over
me. If I don't still like you, you know what?
Ask a certain mom husband. We'll get some feed
feed action there. That is like hilarious. I
literally was like kicking like the camera. It's
funny. Horseshoe or horseshoe hair. Minnesota
YouTuber criticism. Good nature ribbing equals
dislike. I digress. Would you ever do super tips?
I know you said you like Melton. I think that
might have been maybe some sarcasm there, but
perhaps would you ever? Would you ever do something
like super tips or is that? Something really
clear. So, um, I was being kind of sarcastic,
but not really. Um, so Melton at first felt like,
uh, a wave of just like negativity. I didn't
understand it. I had heard about him on red bar,
um, from Mike and jewels and that was it. And
I didn't, and then there was some stuff that
was, uh, you know, not, not a pleasant that I
heard, but people say things that are not true
a lot. Um, Yes, I would if I had to I would if
it was something and then I want to take back
like what Chad I was writing Chad because I was
like I Felt nervous. I was like maybe this is
not a good idea based on how the man has treated
me But yeah, I mean sure why not big ups to super
tips, right? Whose voice would you want on it
for super tips? Who would you pick for a voice?
Yours. Oh, no, I don't think my voice is on there,
but I maybe I need to I haven't watched him enough
to know what voices. If you give me like a choice,
then if you wanted me, but actually Kevin's definitely
one of them and I think Chad's on there too.
Those are two popular ones. Well, I'll go. I'll
go with yours. OK, thank you. Oh, criticism,
good -natured ribbing does not equal dislike.
He's saying if he didn't like you, he wouldn't
send you any super chats or he would just ignore
you. I don't think he's ever sent me a super
chat. I've seen him spend a lot of money. He
sends them while you're on my show. He can't
trust you. 25%. He can't trust you with nice
things. 25%, suck a dick. What? What, that's
our standard rate? I thought that's what you
said. No, I said the first time. I love he does
like the drug. The first time I give it to him
and other times I just I screw you. And so you
see how I'm saying it as like like I'm not even
thinking like it's just like I'm saying it as
like just a fact, like like he's sending you
that super chat, but I'm only getting 25 % of
that super chat as if it was just a known thing
between him and I, because he didn't explain
to me that anything had changed or whatever.
So I don't know if he I still don't know if he
was doing a bit or whatever. Does that make sense?
Well, I think any time he can pay you less, then
that's going to be if he could get away with
it. Yeah. So you did a good job holding him this
time. Yeah, that was a one time only deal like
drugs. First time's free. I've done your show
free four times before you ever paid me. What
are you talking about? We'll see what happens.
Let me see what happens. Yeah, you're paying
me 25%. That's what's happening. Uh, everyone.
Well then fucking read some super chat. Bravo.
Do we have a chat? That was awesome. That was
okay. So you're paying me that. Okay, great.
Let's go on. Keep going. Let's go. Let's go.
That's holy shit. I am. You're the one that's
slowing us down. Everyone screw Kevin and he
found me. Billy P. Moss on my PayPal. The big
hand, the little hand are both on a five o 'clock.
What time is it? That depends on the way. I just
want to say this is a hard quote. Like I watch.
It depends on the watch. I have talked about
this with a few people, but it is really five
twenty five. That was like I didn't really think
about it. But if there's a second hand and the
second hand is on the five and the five, the
big one is on the five. That's five o 'clock.
I mean, the little hand would have to be there
as well, but you got it. Dominic says, Dan, don't
defend this. OK, I'm not going to defend it.
But I think it is a it's a tough question because
you have to visualize it. So I could see how
the watch, you know. It's a good question, but
why ask someone that question? Why paid? Why
would a woman pay to ask another woman that question
who's kind of under fire? Well, I I'm gonna defend
KB a little bit here I mean she was trying to
trick you but I think somebody asked Keanu or
somebody the other day because Keanu, I don't
you know Keanu Thompson Yeah, I've seen her on
Kevin show so Keanu basically admitted that she
doesn't know how to read an analog clock like
she doesn't she she couldn't do like the where
like she couldn't say what three o 'clock was
on like a regular clock. So that was one of the
questions I think that came up with her. So but
this is tough, like if you're not looking at
a clock in front of you. So it is at Keanu lore.
But no, to be fair, it's very silly. I should
have known that it was five twenty five. KB is
hilarious. She was trying to catch you on. Trick
question ask the big hand and the little clock
are both on five o 'clock. What time is it? Hi
KB I feel like you're one of these passive aggressive
women that I don't totally understand But if
the little hand and the big hand are both on
five o 'clock, isn't it five o 'clock? No, it's
five. It's 525 or it's first of all, they're
never both on the five because if the ones at
the big hands on the if the if the if the uh
big hands on the five the small hand is going
to be to the left of the five between the five
and the six the whole point for women to be paying
to want to make me look stupid okay guys that
sounds like a really uh cool thing to do so women
should stand four five six if the big hand is
on the five and the little hand is on the five
they're in the same place i don't get it no they're
not on the same place i'll never be on they'll
never build Don't fight it. Don't. Yeah. Let
it go. Ashley. I was completely, but you know,
yeah, that was, that was not fighting it. I think
it's ridiculous. I think I'm ridiculous here,
but it's, you're in the heat of the moment. It's
a, that's a trick question beyond the five. Thanks
for that. The little hand is the second counter,
isn't it? Okay, we got to move on Johnny Mac.
Let's keep the negotiations on the air, please
So it is 25 % or not gross or net sounds presumptuous
to think just think it'll be 20. Yeah, we didn't
It is it's it's the LA thing where you're like,
you don't know what time it is and you oh, and
so yeah He does like a what about the kind of
thing deflecting? Oh, well, you're in LA and
you're you're your heads in the smog and no,
you know No, you were just like this is what
we talked about And so I just want to make sure
that we're clear that that's what I'm getting
paid. I thought if it was going to be different
that he would have told me beforehand. And I
didn't. I never thought that I would have to
ask, is it going to be different? Right. Yeah.
If you didn't do this, you would have had to
probably haggle him to get even like 50 bucks
or a hundred bucks or something like that. So,
um, so yeah, this, I like, I hope if anybody
takes anything out of tonight. I hope everybody
haggles. Kevin, every time they go on, I hope
everybody makes sure that they, and it's also
good because it helps other people know. So like
if some other gal wants to go on the show, it's
like, okay, the going rate is 25 % or 20 % of
the gross. And, uh, yeah, that's what you, if
you want to one -on -one, I just want to say,
just to add to what you just said, which is genius.
Um, I don't know who's out here able to, I mean,
Uh, someone's doing well. I don't know who's
out there, um, able to do this stuff for free.
I've heard people like, Oh no, Kevin, I won't
take money from you. I'm like, What? Who doesn't
accept money? I mean, I guess people are doing
much better than me. Go ahead. Make fun of it.
There's, there's no shame. If, if you can, well,
this, this is something anybody that's done business
or sales or anything, you negotiate what you're
worth. If you're willing to do it for free, you're
willing to do it for free. There's nothing wrong
with that. Maybe you think that being on the
show is good for your notoriety or your brand,
and you want to just go and promote something,
so you'll do it for free. So that is not the
case with me, and I definitely can't afford to
do anything for free. And this is obviously attacking
me or whatever. But also, if you would have said
beforehand, Ash, give me $100 or some flat rate
thing or whatever, that would have been fine.
Probably accepted it. You know what I'm saying?
It was just, there was no conversation. So I
was a little bit confused. And you were taking
a little bit of abuse from people and they're
having, you know, jokes at you. So like, yeah,
you should get a little hazard pay for that,
I think. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Cause we
had a, the first time I said to first of all,
I didn't say 25%. I said 20 % and if it goes
well, maybe I'll pop it up to 25%. But there
was no guarantee. Every show is like that. I
mean, that's not how it works. I make, I pay
depending on what I make. There's, I don't have
any, I don't have a standard contract. Yeah.
And he made 1900 bucks when you went on the show
and, and you were probably at least worth the
third of that. So, uh, yeah. So Kevin, you've
got no legs to stand on there. See, see, so,
Hey, but everybody else that's watching, you
need help negotiating with Kevin Brennan? Call
this guy. I will, I will get you everything you
can get Ashley. You don't need my help. You are
a master negotiator yourself. So, uh, but if
you ever need my help, I'm always here with anybody,
nobody. So then can we, I paid stutter and John,
I paid stutter and John 3000 the first time he
did. He expects 3000. What does it have to do
with anything? You're not stuttering John, you
know, like you're a yoga teacher from LA who
has a famous sister and you know You you're going
on the show because he's got I mean, this is
the other thing too about I don't know if you've
seen this Ashley Every woman that's gone on this
show they get burned out and they don't want
to go back on he like so he's desperate to get
Oh, you know female people that will go on his
show But most of them are you know after a while
they just get brow beaten by this guy. So Yeah,
get paid while you can and you know do it for
as long as you want Gina Bobina my god, this
is bad Dan. What this what this clip? Gina Gina,
we love you Gina, but It's well, we're about
halfway through the club. We're just gonna play
that play this through and then and then Ashley
will whip will wrap up and we'll do your plugs
and we'll talk about the yoga stuff and Anything
else you want to want to talk about? Is that
cool? Of course anything you know, right? It
tells on every show from then on from there on
out Don't you want to keep yelling a little bit
more? I did all the breathing I need to do. Everybody
thinks they're smarter than me. Everybody thinks
I'm ready to be grifted. The reason my show is
still on the air is because I don't suffer fools
gladly. I suffer them, not gladly. Well, I think
if I'm on the other side... You don't believe
in time, so how can you believe in money or anything
else? That was great by the way that is really
are a great negotiator that anytime you're in
like a heated battle with somebody you just you
just Pause and you don't say anything and you
make them wait for you to it's like, okay you
finished personality type because he doesn't
expect that No, he wants to can be combative
and you just like okay you finished He was he
was having a good time going back and forth with
you this is funny Or read a poor Chad sometimes
don't put on the screen. So Kevin, why would
I not think that it would be exactly the same
way as the first time, which was the fifth time
I was on your show that you ever paid me unless
you told me if you average it out? So you did
what three freebies for this guy? That's correct.
So I did the first one, which was Justice for
Eric Cummings. I did a second show. I'm not sure
if the Ray DeVito show was the second or the
Chad show was the second. It was Chad and myself.
And the next one we'll call it, I think is in
this order, was Ray DeVito and myself. And then
we did a Gabby Petito video. So actually that's
five times. He has taken down one of those. I
thought it was the fifth time. The first time
he ever paid me was three weeks ago, the last
one I did the Friday show. What do you think
of Ray DeVito? I don't know him. I did the show
with him. I've never met him. He seems like a
nice guy. I think he gets a lot of negative attention
and he takes it pretty well. I think he's a little
funny and ridiculous, but in an innocuous...
Like innocent way. What were you saying, sir?
Yeah, yeah, I agree with you. He's kind of he's
a I don't know if I'd say lovable, but he's definitely
he's he's an interesting, interesting character.
Agreed. No, no, no, I I'm running the show. You're
not running. You didn't clarify that there's
going to be. OK, OK. No, you should have asked
if you would assume something. It's my show.
It's not your show. Okay, I can make the money.
You don't make the money. Make your own money
then. Make your own money. So you come out here
to, so you assume, no, you assume, you assume
that I would pay the same, but if you would have
asked me, I would have said, I don't, not so
fast. So that's why you didn't ask me because
then you could play the game. Oh, I assume. So
I already dealt with clowns like you, Stuttering
John and the, and the ilk, where they're like,
oh no, don't assume anything on my fucking show.
Don't. So he put you in a category with clout.
He called you a clown, like stuttering John.
That was that was kind of the whole thing didn't
make sense. And I was just trying like that.
That was what I expect that from Kevin, usually.
Right. But he was just like, oh, I was like,
at the same time, I was trying to process how
he was justifying that perspective. Because I
feel like if you're the person running the show,
you Clarify if something is going to change about
the show. Does that make sense? Yeah, exactly.
No, that makes total sense. Are you thinking
about doing your own show more like this? I beg
your pardon? I was gonna say, are you are you
thinking about doing like a regular kind of dabble
versi type show or, you know, because you record
videos, but do you do live streams too? So I
haven't been live in a while because I was nervous,
quite frankly, for a while to go live. but yeah,
I cover red bars. So I've been doing a red bar.
I called them, I called them red bar rewinds,
but there's a channel shout out to red bar rewind.
So I used to put a computer in front of another
computer set up on books and I would play red
bar. I started doing this. As far as I know,
I'm the only person that's allowed to do this.
So I just basically do whatever I want. Now I
do OBS, but Mike, David and Jules are pretty
specific about how they want their clips done,
et cetera. But I just do Red Bar. I call them
watch alongs. Mike calls them five star reviews
with Ashley Cummings. So yeah, I love doing live
streams. I like talking about information that
I feel like would be helpful for people. So I
do live streams about that as well. So. Uh, am
I thinking about doing a show? Um, there's a
few people have approached me not a dabble of
our show. Um, no, definitely not. What you going
to do something with Chad at one point. Yes,
I was. I thought about it. Are we talking about
what happened with that? Well, I wouldn't work
with somebody who would publicly go behind my
back like the way he did today ever. So, um,
there was an opportunity that came to me and
I thought about men. That was actually the reason
the reason that I spoke to MKE in the first place,
because he was a person that we were thinking
about as like a male guest, doing like a show,
talking about stuff and having a female and a
male, right? To balance it out. And the point
was that, frankly, that the person that wanted
me to speak to him was that because he can go
off the rails sometimes. He wasn't going to be
the guest. He was just going to be one guest
of many, just a male for one of the the episodes.
So yeah, I won't answer that question and I'll
also tell you, I think you know this, that if
you are working on something and you want it
to happen, the more that you can kind of keep
the energy and not talk about it too much, the
more that it's likely to happen. Okay, so Chad
talked about it too much but didn't take action,
is that what you're saying? So there was just
a conversation, not even a not even a very serious
one. There was a conversation about doing a show
with Chad. And what was the exact question? Why
didn't it happen? So, yeah, it's to me, that
sounds like a, you know, because he needs something
he need. He needed like a new idea. Like, so
that would have been a great pivot. You're an
interesting person, female, you know, to play
off of. It seems like everything would be lined
up. So how does he screw that up? How does that
not come to fruition? You know what? Fuck it.
For two or three years, despite a few different
things, I've stood up for Chad publicly and privately.
Everything I say to people, I say to their faces.
But in the last few weeks, I've been protecting
people and different kinds of things. And then
there's some stuff that came to my attention
recently about Chad that I know for sure is true
and it's very disappointing. So I'm just gonna
say it. It's not that bad. Sorry if I made this
sound like it's gonna be really exciting. It's
not that exciting. Basically, one person and
I were doing all the background work on a thread,
like a text thread of how to make this show idea
that we kind of all came up with be super successful,
like some of the details. Like you and I went
over the talking points. So it comes up organized,
unlike how most of my videos are. But I'm working
on that. And I've learned a lot from Mr. Melton,
right? So we were just talking about, we were
literally working. For two days. I mean not like
I would say cumulative two or three hours But
just doing everything so Chad and Chad was it
could see everything on this chain, right? And
the point of the chain is so it's transparent.
So you see everything that we're talking about
We're just talking about how to make this successful
to this this this this and then He canceled he
like he he he what do you call it? this was like
three weeks ago I want to say he bailed like
the day of he was like you guys are talking about
all these things that have to do with money behind
my back and I'm like no that's the point of the
chain we actually are just trying to do this
with you but yeah so he cancelled it and then
he asked me to do it again like yesterday or
the day before or that was a conversation after
the other stuff happened And then he texted.
That was the whole point. He texted me this morning
and canceled it again and then went behind my
back on Twitter and said mean things about me.
OK, thanks, Chad. So if I understand correctly,
you were going to do a show. You had it all lined
up. You did. You and somebody else did all the
work. No, we were not going to do a show. We
were someone else and I were working on all the
logistics in the text thread. You got what I'm
saying? So it wasn't. Uh, but it was planned
by the way. So I felt like it was rude to cancel
the day of doing it. We wouldn't have huge expectations
for the first one, but we had put some time into
it and, um, that was rude, but. Sorry. Are you,
are you completely done? Are you out of the Chad
business now? Is that, I don't know. I mean,
I texted him today on that same thread. I was
like chat. Cause someone was like, Ash Chad privately
DM'd me about you asking Kevin for money. I'm
like, I didn't ask Kevin for money. Why are people
turning this weird? And then you showed me there's
a public tweet, but a couple other people told
me there was a public tweet. And that's just
very bizarre. I wrote on the chat, I was like,
on the thread that we have that was about that
possible project. I was like, Chad, why wouldn't
you just talk to my face? But at the same time
almost everyone I trust has always warned me
about Chad So you feel like you kind of got backstabbed
by Chad then like I did this thing that I always
do I trust people I want to trust people I want
to think that people are good I guess I assume
people are like somewhat in alignment with the
way that I think or Yeah, that kind of thing
And he did stand up for me to Melton, so I thought,
he like made this horrible, I was like, I'm not
going after Melton's wife. He sent me this meme
that he made or whatever like with Melton's wife.
I'm like, because Melton came after me, his wife
is innocent. I would never, you know, but he
posted it on Twitter. I did repost it, but I
would never like. Make a I would never go after
her, you know Whatever. Does that make sense
what I just said? Yeah. No, absolutely But then
a week later he's like literally what do you
call bend the knee? Whatever like Standing up
for Melton and that's like the only way that
he can survive. Okay and making fun of me for
being honest If if Chad was watching right now,
what would you what would you want to say to
him? Exactly what I said in the text. Why would
you say something about me behind my back publicly
when you have my phone number and you could just
tell me? I guess the answer is kind of obvious,
right? You just wanted attention or something.
Do you have any advice for Chad now that now
that he's lost all his monetization advice? That's
one thing Melton I hope will understand about
me, because he doesn't research me. Guys, this
girl is giving you advice. She's telling you
what to do with your life. I literally ask anybody
that I know, I do not give advice. You have to
pay me for advice or be a very good friend of
mine. And this is why I respect other people.
So people give advice all the time. And people
take advice all the time. And most of the people
giving advice do not have their lives together.
And also they don't know the intricacies of these
situations. So people's lives are people's lives.
Like I'm happy to be an observer and say, this
is this, this is that or whatever, offer information,
take it or freaking leave it. Right. But I, by
principle, one of my things is that I do not
give advice. So when that came up, like she's
trying to give advice to people, I was like,
You guys have to research me a little bit if
you're gonna spend money and time on me like
this really I don't give advice and it's out
of respect to other human people's individual
journeys I Have another random question for you
and you feel free you don't have to answer this
if you don't want to but One of the videos that
you did recently and you took it down right away,
but I did happen to see it You intimated a potential
Avenue that you might consider for Um, generating.
Yes. What's the question? So, so, so you, so
you had that, I don't think you kept it up very
long. I just happened to be, and it was when
we were talking. I never put one up. No, no,
but you, but you made a video talking about you
were going to potentially do it. Right. You,
I talked about the person that I spoke to that
I responded to a, uh, models over 35 job, uh,
thing. And, um, It was a guy that wanted to charge
me 50 % to run my only fans. And I made a video
about that. Okay. So that okay. Namelessly looking
for every and every and always to take care of
myself right now. So, so his only fans, is that
something that that you would consider? I would
definitely consider it. I'm not below anything
right now, guys. I'm below a $3 ,000. I'm below
$5 ,000 a month. Not that's what I'm below. Well,
if you were going to go the only fans route,
do you do you know like what you would like?
What would you be willing to do? Would it be
more like kind of like sexy shots or would or
would it be like more kind of risque than that
you think? So I don't even know anything about
besides like what my sister did with OnlyFans.
I don't know much about it. I do know people
get naked and they show their bodies. He was
explaining their like requests. The guy that
wanted to do the, um, the guy that wanted to
do the, that was explaining it that, uh, wanted
50%. He's like, there'll be like requests, like
people will request you like do this for this
amount of money, things like that. But those
are private things. I do get that there's probably
zero privacy on this site, but I don't know much
about it again. Yeah, I mean, first of all, everyone's
calling me old and ugly. I have never felt so
comfortable in my body. I've never felt so comfortable
in my skin. And I think I love the way that I
look. So I'm sorry that you don't, but whatever
you guys think about my appearance is 100 % your
business. Yeah, I would definitely Do stuff on
only fans and I would hope that it could maybe
be like artistic and not so sexual or whatever,
you know Sure, but I haven't focused on it since
that video I deleted like a month ago. I think
Just why I wasn't sure if it was like an impulsive
thing that you were thinking or it was something
that you really had given thought to but you
know I don't think there's any shame in it and
you should be proud of your body I mean you your
body is your your job, right yoga. So You know,
these some of these people with their comments,
I mean, come on. It's it's, you know, you're
an attractive woman with a, you know, good physique,
like there's nothing to be ashamed of. I think
that because the way that I reacted in the beginning,
which was also a joke, I said to David, Sarah,
like, please take down that picture of me. I
don't like the way that I look. So then they
went after my looks. So I notice a pattern, and
then I get really upset or fervent or passionate
about my dog, and then they go after my dog.
So I think that was more it, but they say that
stuff about my sister too. I think my sister's
gorgeous and I'm very pleased with the way that
I look. One last question. So you brought up
your sister. You haven't talked to her in a couple
of years, right? So we have we know we haven't
we haven't seen each other in almost two years
But we communicate we haven't communicated in
a healthy way and about about that amount of
time What do you think it would take to? to like
kind of bury the hatchet with your sister is
it something like she needs to do or or what
do you think it would take for you guys to kind
of you know make amends and You know sort of
become you know at least cordial with each other
again. I wish I knew, but I really wish I knew
Dan because I love my sister and I want to be
part of my nephew's life, but it's tricky with
us. And there's also something else that we're
going to have to deal with together. So I don't
want to. Yeah, I don't want to. I hope I answered
your question. I wish I knew. I wish I knew.
Is that a good answer? Is that it? Yeah. No,
I totally get it. And it's sometimes it's hard
with siblings. Like I never, I didn't always
get along with my sister. And over the time as
we've gotten older, we've gotten, you know, I
wouldn't say super close, but closer enough where,
you know, like we're, you know, one sister, just,
yeah, just one sister. And she, my sister also
is someone who's very, um, Well known in her
field so i know what it's like to have kind of
a sister that has a very strong personality who
is sort of an alpha type personality so that
can be tough to. Because there that you know
i'm sure it's probably like that with whitney
but with my sister it's like her world and everybody
else kind of. Revolves around it so that can
lead to some frustration some difficulty because
it's always gonna be about her with her situations
you gotta kinda. Do I want to be part of that?
Am I am I cool with that? Or am I going to kind
of butt heads or, you know, that's something
I've run into in my life. So I am sympathetic.
I know what it's like to have someone who has
a sister with a strong personality. I'm very
happy that you and your sister are back together
or closer now, because there's something that
like that never leaves me when it comes to that,
is that you guys are each other's oldest historians.
You know what I mean? Oldest shared historians,
excuse me. So what's the age difference between
your sister and yourself? Two and a half years.
Yeah, so you guys are each other's oldest shared
historians. That's a thing, you know. Absolutely.
Unfortunately, my sister and I stuff. Yeah, it.
Here's you know what market. In a few years,
Whitney and I will have sorted. Our own issues
out and together and separately and then together
and will be getting along and everything will
be great. Awesome, well, that's that's not or
not core dot. I'd like to think that that'll
that'll be the way it'll go. Yeah, that would
that would be my that would be my hope. Awesome
well, you've been awesome Ashley. It's been great
to have you. Thanks for being such a good sport.
So obviously Ashley, PayPal, Venice Ashley, 727
at Gmail. I know you're on YouTube, you're on
Instagram, you're on X. What else, what else
you have out there that we should check out?
patreon .com slash Ashley Cummings, and then
YouTube. And so my Twitter is Ashley V Cummings.
There's like two more fake Twitter accounts.
Yeah, a lot of fake ones have been popping up
lately, I've noticed. Jake Hudson yelled at me
and banned me. He's like, you're spiraling out.
I'm like, those aren't my accounts. Jake Hudson.
Oh, that's awesome. By the way, the only show
I was ever going to do for free. No longer, sir.
Thank you so much for having there. But he yelled
at me because I think he thought the fake accounts
were me. And I don't know what the fake accounts
are doing. I have not been there today. So I
guess the fake accounts are spiral spiraling
out and he's like he was talking about me and
saying, you know Ashley's Ashley's losing it
or something like that Jake, I thought we were
friends. Oh, come on Jake lighten up Well, it
was great to have you Ashley. Hopefully we can
do it again sometime And you know, we'll talk
soon and thanks everybody for joining and have
a great rest of your night. So you