I'm Evan. Welcome back to the Extra Spicy Pod. I'm here with my co-host, Lane. How are you doing, Lane?
I'm doing good. It's a good, um, St. Patrick's Day. Yeah, I'm in my green. Evan's not. He hates the Irish.
I do. I do hate the Irish. No offense to our Irish viewers out there. I mean, we just, we even found out we were
getting someone from Belgium listening to our stuff, so, I mean, who knows? So, today we got some good list of topics for you today.
We're going to discuss our favorite NFL teams, and then we're also going to talk about everything that went on with the NFL Free Agency.
We're also going to talk about who we think will win the NFL MVP and NBA MVP. But we're going to get, we're going to jump into the other topics as we go on the episode.
So, let's start off with our first, very first topic, or something we got to introduce, our favorite NFL teams.
So, I'd like to introduce my favorite team, the New Orleans Saints. My hometown team, I've been to lots of Saints games, probably over 20 games probably.
And I'm just really born and raised a Saints fan. You know, I grew up with Drew Brees as my quarterback, and people like Alvin Kamara, Cam Jordan, Mike Thomas, you know, all these players.
You know, really started becoming a big fan in 2017, so in the last little bits of the Saints kind of dynasty era when they went to the NFC championship, and they were in the playoffs for like four straight years.
And they were good in Drew Brees' last couple seasons, so it was cool watching them.
Home sweet home, right? Who dat? Can you agree Evan, who dat? Let me get a who dat. No, I'm not agreeing to that. I'm not going to lie, going to see Drew Brees was fun.
But here's the thing though, I don't really have a favorite NFL team. I'm more of an Aaron Rodgers fan, because why Aaron Rodgers is the goat in my opinion.
Wrong.
No, no, no, you know, wrong. He can do anything. The only thing he doesn't have is the accomplishments. Tom Brady has to be in the accomplishments. But, I mean, he's got more peace of mind.
We might argue about that in another podcast. You know why Aaron Rodgers is not the top quarterback of all time.
That's kind of ridiculous. We're going to argue about those in the future. But we'll jump right into this.
Well, what's your favorite team? You never answered the question.
Uh, like I said, I don't really have a favorite team.
Oh, so you're a bandwagon then?
I'm not a bandwagon. Because, one, if I was a bandwagon, you would see me in a Patrick Mahomes jersey.
And be like, oh jeez, go Patrick Mahomes. I like Patrick Mahomes.
No, we don't support the bandwagonism. If I do decide to magically be a fan of a team, it ain't gonna be the most popular team.
Like, for example, I'm not gonna be a Philly fan, even though I should be a Philly fan, to piss you off even more.
Bro, yeah, you would be that one. You would be like, fandom of every Philly sports team, just to piss me off.
Flau-eagle-flau, baby. But, I'm not being a Philly fan. I wouldn't be a Kansas City fan.
I mean, I feel like it'd be like a, it's weird, but if I had to pick a team, I'm not gonna say I'm a big fan of the team,
but just like watching them play, I guess. It'd either be the Texans, the Bengals, or the Jets.
Even when they get Aaron Audrey back. That's all I got for that.
You know, Bengals, hometown Joe Burrow. You know, I like the Bengals too.
But, here's the thing though. I can't stand watching the same team. Especially nowadays, if it was like Drew Greene and all them,
I could actually sit through the game and watch it. Now, yeah, they can barely get past the 50 yard line.
Bro, the difference between you and I, I'm a Ryder Dio fan. I'm gonna stick with my team no matter what.
If your team sucks, you go jump to another team. You know, when Robby's retired, you go jump to another team.
At least McDonald's didn't have a fucking special promo on us.
Oh, and fucking Jets, hey, every time the Saints score a touchdown, when they literally score the least amount of touchdowns in the league,
hey, every time the Saints score a touchdown, you get free fries at McDonald's.
Bro, it's not about that. It's about being Ryder Dio. You're not loyal. I'm loyal over here.
I'm not loyal. Bro, what you loyal to? I'm loyal to the GOAT, Aaron Rodgers.
So you're loyal to him wherever he decides to go. Yeah.
What about when he retires? Like four or five years? Maybe less.
Well, on this podcast, we're gonna spin a giant wheel of the NFL teams, and that's what I'm gonna be a fan of.
So if it lands on the Detroit Lions, you're gonna be a Lions fan? I will be a Lions fan.
You'll be a Browns fan? That, I will never, I will never be a Browns fan.
So what are your different lanes on the Browns? Well, easy.
I'm a rigger to like where I can kick off the Browns. Any other team is up for grabs.
Except for Arizona, because I just don't like Arizona.
And there's another team I don't like. The Southlings, right? I can't say anything about them.
Alright, you and me go green that. Let's go. Let's go. Okay. So.
How about this NFL free agency? This free agency, such trades. We just got done with a bunch of them, Evan.
I'm gonna say this.
Either two things about that. One, the Texans are gonna beat the Chiefs this year.
With the additions that they have, with Joe Mixon in the running game, if they get that offensive line right,
and they get like, because they got Deja signed to Neil Hunter, they just signed a bunch of dudes into that defense,
I think the Texans are gonna be a scary ass monster team.
Or with all these moves that Bengals are doing right now, you know, getting rid of T. Higgins, getting rid of Joe Mixon,
signing Mike Koski for a low-contract deal, it could be a sign that maybe, just maybe now, I'm not putting the hype on the train or anything,
the Bengals might be going after Justin Jefferson. That's what I've been hearing. I don't know if it's true or not,
but that'd be amazing to see, because you know, they'd be dominant, and everyone in the league knows this.
That'd be really cool to see, have Joe Burrow with this college teammate, Justin Jefferson, also with what's the other receiver's name on the Bengals.
Joe R. Chase, yeah, the three yellow shoe boys, ooh, that'd be sweet.
That would be, that'd be aesthetic. But I know the Texans have won the free agency for either them, or I don't want to give it to Philly,
but, because I already feel like Saquon did it out of spite, so like, I mean, I already know why he did it, he's just out of spite,
because literally, he literally got franchise tagged last year, and they were like, no, no, I'm not playing.
Well, let's go with these big time trades, let's go individual, so let's go Kirk Cousins, he went to the Foppins free agency.
You think it makes the Foppins way better? I think it actually does.
Are they super full contenders then? No. Nah, they're not super full.
But what it will do, they might, and it depends on what the fuck the Bucks do, they might win the NFC South.
Because they got Kyle Pitts, they got Robinson, and they got Kirk Cousins, that's like a trio right there.
I think that's Drake Lundin too. Drake Lundin, yeah, I don't know, yeah.
They got a pretty alright defense, their defense pretty alright.
You got Jesse Bates in that backfield too, like that's a scary man.
I do think though, if the Bucks don't do any other moves, they're winning the NFC South though.
Because with the Kirk Cousins move, which was smart on Atlanta, but also bad that they paid him so much fucking money.
Well, it was smart, he's the best quarterback that they had since Matt Ryan.
Well yeah, that's what I'm getting to. They needed a quarterback.
I mean you could have, I'm not gonna lie, with the news that broke yesterday, I mean,
you could have gotten Justin Fields for like a solid 5th round pick.
Yeah, but who's better though? Justin Fields or Kirk Cousins?
What the fuck have the Bears given them though? That's the thing.
I would take Kirk Cousins every day.
I mean, I would hope so, but at the same time you have to look at the same instance though.
What the fuck did the Bears give Justin Fields other than DJ Moore?
Alright, well Kirk Cousins has proven that he's good.
Justin Fields may be unproven, but at least we know this guy's proven.
So we're gonna go get this guy. You know what I'm saying?
But, I mean, I'm not saying this now at Bat, I mean, like I said,
if they would have done something like what the Steelers did with Russell Wilson,
with the whole, because if you notice, he's getting paid like 1.7 million dollars a year from the Steelers, right?
That's because he's getting paid the other 38 million from the Broncos,
and that's the team that's fucked up more than anything.
Which they're probably gonna trade up in the draft.
Yeah, let's talk about Russell Wilson, dude. So he went from the Broncos to the Steelers,
getting paid all this money by the Broncos, and the Steelers have to,
they get a really good quarterback for a million dollars a year?
I mean, that's pretty crazy, come on. How could you not love that move if you're a Steelers fan?
See, the thing about that though, they're still not gonna do anything.
It's gonna take more than a year.
Is he an upgrade?
He is 1000% an upgrade, better than Kenny Pickett, but at the same time though,
you also gotta look at that overall team. Look at who they just got rid of.
They got rid of Deontay Johnson. He was arguably their best receiver.
Alright, just on a quarterback perspective though, he's an upgrade, right?
Yes, but...
And then Kenny Pickett left town, he didn't want to deal with them.
Yeah, he used to back up for the Eagles now, so like, I mean, after two years though,
I mean, they kind of knew it was time for him.
But I mean, that's why I might also give Phil at the fucking edge,
because, I mean, hey, you had to do that with just starting literally a season ago,
as your back up quarterback, so if J. L. Hurts ever saw him go down, hey man,
you actually got weapons too?
Not saying that the Steelers didn't have weapons, but you have actual style weapons,
you might actually make something happen, or you may just fuck up and just suck as a quarterback.
It just really all depends on what that dude does, like if he's making the right reads,
and not making the right reads, like it just really all depends.
I'm not really a big Kenny Pickett believer, I don't think he's got it.
I thought he was overhyped, that was my opinion.
Well, the Eagles had a good back up quarterback last year,
that dude from Jacksonville, can't think of his name, you know?
But they had Marcus Marietta last year.
Oh yeah, they did. Yeah, you're right, they had Marcus Marietta.
I mean, is he really Kenny Pickett? I'd say so.
Marcus Marietta, one of the Titans, would still be the best Marcus Marietta we will ever see.
Agree, agree.
So, like, and now he's on the commander now, and this is also going to show that like,
what teams will actually need to draft up, because he got some, you know,
mock draft saying that Jay Daniels is going to go number two.
And so, but you may never know, if the Bears may even draft a quarterback, but in this situation.
Yeah, let's hold off until draft talk, until later on.
Right now, we're just talking about the moves that happened.
Come on, Russell, let's talk about how much a shit show in Denver that's been for the past two years.
Like, they didn't get anywhere.
I'm going to say this, they were cooking.
If it's fucked up on the organization's part, whenever you go to a player,
we want to change your non-guaranteed injury, in case you know, they try to change that in the contract.
Everybody got to be paid at some point, even if you're hurt.
He's a professional football player.
He doesn't put his body on the line to, you know, play and perform, do whatever.
And so, let's just say, I'm a manager at your restaurant, okay?
And I need time off, but I still need to get paid though.
You're going to give me paid time off.
But if you're just like, hey, I'm not, hey, you're not going to get paid time off anymore,
I'm going to be like, the fuck is wrong with you? No.
I think both sides are bling.
I think Russell Wilson didn't look as good in Denver as he did in Seattle.
I also think Denver, as an organization, they didn't do Russell right.
So you had Nathaniel Hackett, the first year as a head coach, terrible head coach.
Oh my gosh, terrible head coach.
I think that year, the first year, I can give Russell a pass on him, because that ain't on Russ.
And he was getting adjusted to the system, like everyone had to adjust, so I understand it takes some time.
The second year though.
The second year though, I'm going to say this.
I'm not blaming it on Russ, because I mean, he was cooking throughout the season.
We could absolutely agree.
They were on like a six, seven game win streak, I think.
I don't remember when it was exactly, but you know, then they were like, no.
They lost to the Texans. They ran into a hot Texas.
They lost to the Patriots.
They lost to the Patriots?
Yeah, at home they lost to the Patriots, I think, around Christmas.
Because I know the Texans ended that win streak, because they were just heating up.
And so, I know that's when shit started to come on south.
But, I blame, on that team, I blame the organization itself.
Because one, we already know Jerry Judy and Courtland Sutton are not going to cut.
No, neither of them are one receivers. They're like two, three receivers.
But not one receiver.
But they're not south, so that's why.
Right, right.
I'm not blaming Russ on this situation, because he had two, number two wide receivers.
And then, who do you have in your running game?
You had Melvin Gordon that was balling out in your first year.
But then he tore his ACL or something? Yeah, he tore his ACL.
And then he comes back and you know, not many players are the same when they tear their ACL.
Yeah, so he didn't have the most help around him.
That's why receivers, running backs, tight end.
Like that whole offense just didn't gel.
Whether it be receivers, tight ends, running backs, even the quarterback.
I think he still has something to blame on both seasons.
And even up to the coaches, Sean Peayton seemed like he didn't get along at all.
Him and Sean Peayton?
I personally think that they were, I thought before this even last season started,
that they were actually going to do good.
Because I read, I saw an article, they spent like over $100 million on their O line.
And I'm just like, huh, maybe they actually gave Russ like some time to do it.
I thought they'd come second in the division behind Chiefs.
Yeah, I thought that too.
Because, which I think they actually did.
I mean, we still wonder.
What I'm saying is the situation is that we expect shit to happen.
But in reality, like it just can't.
We can pay all these dudes all this much amount of money.
It depends on whether they're going to perform or not.
You got to think.
If I'm paying a good ass O lineman, you got to give me at least like maybe,
because it takes, NFL quarterback takes like what, two seconds in the pocket,
maybe three, four, two to three.
Exactly.
So like that O line guy is going to offend you like a motherfucker.
And if you got someone like Aaron Donald facing you, which I mean, he's retiring now.
But when you got Aaron Donald facing you, like you need all the time in the world
you can get to throw that ball.
The O line gets no respect, but it's not a sexy position to be an O lineman.
You know, no credit gets given to the O line.
It's always the quarterback.
I support the big boys.
Yeah, I support the big boys too.
It's not the sexiest position in the world.
Not many people can even name an O lineman.
Like the average NFL fan probably can't name their starting O lineman.
They're probably just going to say Jason Kelsey.
Jason Kelsey, Lane Johnson, you know, you just say Eagles fucking offensive line.
And that's what they're going to say.
Right.
A lot of them can't even name their favorite teams O lineman.
I mean, it's not a sexy position, but it is a very important position.
It is very important, which many teams don't get right.
And I do think that hopefully, I mean, I think there's so many trade-offs on the draft to go get solid quarterback.
It just really depends on who it is now.
If in my opinion, if they go after like someone like a Drake, I'm not a big fan of Drake or Bonyx.
If they get one of them, I'm going to be low key angry at them.
Because at the same time, though, like they can't make any free agency moves because I mean, they still fucking overrush the line money.
So I expect them to actually do good.
Maybe trade up a couple of picks like me.
I don't care if they get to like five or six.
I'm going to pull up the NFL draft position.
Let's go over like who we think is going to go as far as quarterback wise, who's going to go to what team.
I mean, I think the number one pick is obviously Caleb Williams to Chicago.
Right.
You would agree?
I agree with that, especially now.
I mean, I was going to say in my personal opinion, but this is also me being a little bit biased.
I don't care what anybody says.
The Bears would have kept Justin Fields and would have grabbed their wide receiver.
If I was the Bears, I would have taken Malik neighbors.
I don't give a fuck what anybody says.
I don't care that this Marvin Harris interior is Marvin Harris and so on.
Malik neighbors put up the same exact numbers as Marvin Harrison.
But the only difference is the name.
That's legit only it.
It seems inevitable that Caleb Williams is going to be number one of the Bears.
And I also think that Chicago is going to fire their head coach after the season because, you know, Caleb Williams isn't going to do it all of his rookie season.
They have a disappointing season prior to the head coach. Sackler repeats itself.
They just keep going this cycle.
Let's see.
Where's Denver in this Denver's number 12.
That's low.
They can't pick a top quarterback.
They get unless they trade up.
I don't know.
See, could they would they trade up?
I just even trading up trying to get to the you know, the Cardinals maybe or I don't be slick.
I'm going to try to go after that number five pick that number five pick with the Chargers because they don't need a quarterback.
Neither does the Cardinals.
No, no, no.
They're.
Yeah, but I mean, the Cardinals need all the help they get.
Yeah, if I'm Denver, I'm going after quarterback. They Arizona may go after Kyle Murray replacement.
They we don't know their intentions.
We don't work for the organization.
I feel like they're going to stick with Kyle Murray.
I mean, they might have a quarterback, but they may shock.
They may shock the world like we did a couple years back.
Yeah, they may take quarterback first round and everybody's going to be like, what the fuck?
Like, okay, let's see.
Let's see.
Okay, who's going number two?
We got we both in agreement.
Caleb Williams to be kept ones one right right number two.
I'd say Jane Daniels maybe love eyes.
But what did you say?
He won the Heisman now.
He did.
He won the Heisman that you see.
This is an unpredictable one because I'll tell you why.
I mean, even though they just signed Marcus Merida, two things.
One, they still need position players all around.
They just think about they just lost for Samuel to the bills.
That was their number two water fever.
Their number one need is a quarterback.
There's no way they're not going to be number one.
Even is a quarterback though.
But you got to like take a look at all right.
It's more of a pick your poison type thing.
Would you rather have a good two good pass by receivers and a mid quarterback?
Or do you want a good quarterback?
But one good water fever.
Nothing because you know scary tears, you know, scared.
So you don't think they're taking your back now?
I'm not gonna say they're not taking your back.
Yeah, I'm saying that's the most unpredictable.
So they could take a quarterback, but they could also not.
It just really depends on what they this is a pick your poison back.
Okay.
Well, if you were to say now, what would you think the commanders do to?
If I was the commander, yeah.
I'm going after Dave Davis.
That's that's me though, because you got Austin Echler.
And then I can waste my second round pick on the O line or something.
Just to help you buff up that O line.
Give you time in the body.
Yeah, I could also see a point being where they take your receiver and maybe get a quarterback next year.
But it just really depends on who comes out next year.
You know, you may never know.
You may get another Caleb Williams next year and you may fall into a good ass spot.
You may get that Caleb Williams.
Then let's see number three.
If the Washington does not take Marvin Harris and Junior or something like that, something don't happen.
You wouldn't want easy.
They're going to go with Jane Daniels if they don't take any game games because I feel like that'd be a good combo.
That would be an accurate reports of the Patriots like Jane Daniels.
I heard about that, too.
I think that Jane Daniels might go to the Patriots if Washington does not take them.
It just really depends on how the order is going to go.
We don't really know because there's a lot of draft day trades that happen.
You know, teams will switch orders all around.
Like I said, Denver may trade up for that Chargers pick.
That's what I think is they're going to odd.
They should.
Because the top three teams legitimately need a quarterback.
If I'm Denver, I'm trying to sneak me a topic unless if they could magically go like they did last year with since and Bennett, like I don't think since and Bennett got drafted last year.
He went to the Rams.
You got to leave to the round.
Yeah, you got to leave with the left.
Or not.
Max Dugan.
Yeah.
That's the TCU quarterback.
Yeah.
Do you think the Giants take a quarterback?
I think the Giants are going to take a quarterback.
I could see them doing it.
I can see them also not doing it.
What I think they will do.
What I personally think they will do.
They're going to package.
They're going to package Daniels.
But the tricky thing about that is though, who wants to take on that contract?
That's the key thing.
That was a bad contract.
That is an absolute.
You could that I feel bad for every Giants fan because same time though the money that you were supposed to give the same one.
You give it to Daniels.
Giants are really a poverty franchise.
Other than those two seasons, they won the Super Bowl.
They are poverty franchise.
Eli.
Eli is the most mid quarterback you could ever have.
I wouldn't say I wouldn't say that.
If you had two good playoff runs.
What else does he know?
If you can beat the 17 and 0 Patriots.
You can beat the 17 and 0 Patriots.
I wouldn't call him mid.
Joe Flacco, I'm calling fucking mid.
As much as I like Joe Flacco, you cannot lie to me right here.
He actually had a few like two good years with Baltimore.
He had good years.
Eli May has never had a good year.
He's been mid.
He had two magical postseason runs.
Am I wrong?
We're going to argue this another time.
All right.
Hold on.
So what do we think the third quarterback off the board is?
We got Jay Daniels.
We got J.L. Blaine, bro.
Who's the third quarterback?
I think my pick is going to be Bo Nix.
It could be Bo Nix.
But apparently what I don't like about the NFL is that people will or the teams just believe in these like, you know, schools like North Carolina for some fucking reason.
I don't personally believe that.
I mean, let's not get it twisted now.
You know, some people have come out of schools that we never even really fucking heard of.
Look at Aaron.
Aaron Rogers, that cow.
I mean, Wyoming, Josh Allen.
There you go.
Like we do breeze Purdue.
Like, but Texas Tech Moe's.
Exactly.
So we don't really know what these dudes are going to develop into.
But see me, who was it last year that came from like, they came from like, I know I didn't trust Kenny Pickett whenever he was getting drafted.
Me neither.
I didn't like Kenny Pickett a lot.
That was two years ago.
There was someone else from like UNC or something like that.
Will Lovis.
Yeah.
I didn't.
I mean, he didn't go to.
I think that quarterback draft wasn't great.
I would absolutely not agree.
But the same time, though, like I see Will Lovis.
I understand why he went so late.
I mean, I personally think he could be better.
I think he will be better.
He was a rookie, Phil.
But I personally believe that in this situation, though, it's like it is for every player, too.
You're taking a chance.
Right.
So you. That's what happens every draft of any sport.
You take a chance.
Drake may, may become the next Patrick Mahomes.
He may become the next Tom Brady.
We don't know what Drake may be.
But from my personal understanding, I don't like him because understand this.
We know what Caleb Williams can do.
We know what Jane Daniels can do.
I mean, they're playing against SEC competition.
We're next on the competition.
Not Caleb Williams playing like, you know, Oklahoma and shit.
That's that's what I'm saying.
Yeah. Yeah.
Drake may is what you're saying.
Doesn't play the top teams necessarily.
Exactly. Yeah.
Yeah.
Like same thing with Michael Phoenix this year.
Other than Texas that they beat, they ran into Michigan and Oregon.
They beat Oregon twice.
I know they beat Oregon.
Yeah.
But I'm saying like that was the only competition that they had.
Well, the team, the organ, not the player.
It's a team sport.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
But that's what I'm saying.
Like the competition that these players are facing them.
Like what I'm saying is Drake may is going to face fucking Drake.
They can face Southeastern every day of the week and score a hundred.
Even though that's what we're going to say.
We're going to put Southeastern in their conference.
OK.
Southeastern is going to be in their conference and Drake may can just drop a hundred on them.
You throw for eight touchdowns, you know, do all that.
Of course he's going to look good.
Of course he's going to throw about like 500 yards a game in Southeastern.
That's what I'm saying.
Versus a Jayden Daniels who's actually got who gets like a 300 passing yard game, but like a hundred rushing yards.
You get what I'm saying?
Against Alabama.
Yeah, I agree with you from the start.
We've got to look at quarterbacks who played great competition and they did great in that great competition.
You know, but we don't have to look too far to look at Mac Jones, who's been a failure in the NFL.
But he played great at Baywood, playing great competition.
You can take it both ways now.
See, this thing goes both ways.
You can look at the smaller quarterbacks to say, oh, they played really good, but playing terrible competition.
And you can look at the bigger school quarterbacks played really good, played great competition, but then they go, they NFL and they fail.
And see, it's the chance thing, right?
It's still the absolute chance thing.
And that's what I'm saying in the end, though, but at the same time, though, if you just watch them play, though, you can tell like they got stuff in their game that actually makes a difference.
Look at Jayne Dayle, for example, motherfucking doesn't want to run out of the pocket, want to stay in the pocket.
He got better from two years ago.
He did. He did.
Because he knew when to stay in the pocket, when to step out of the pocket.
I mean, we're both high on Jayne Dayle because that's our hometown team.
But we got to take the bias out of it.
Yeah, we do. We do.
Like Caleb Williams, for example, I felt like I feel like me personally, I think Caleb Williams is doing everything.
That's me, though, because if you just see what he does.
Yeah. Yeah.
But he's a talented guy. Don't get twisted.
Very talented.
I mean, his ceiling is Patrick Mahomes, in my opinion. His ceiling.
They compare him to Maron Rogers.
But I'm just like, I got to see it because, you know, you may never know.
Like I said, it's a chance thing. Caleb Williams may go out there and first game, go three, get three interceptions.
So you like Bo Nicks as the third best quarterback in this draft?
Either Bo Nicks or J.J. McCarthy.
J.J. McCarthy over Bo Nicks?
Not over Bo Nicks. I'm saying like either one.
Either one?
Michael Pinnix, I feel like he could be better.
I feel like this draft is pretty stacked, though, when you look at all the quarterbacks.
It's all right. We're not that special, though.
I do think that some of the quarterbacks are going to be good.
Some of them are not going to be good.
I personally think, like I said, it just really did.
It's been more stacked than it was like for the past three years.
Exactly.
So I will give it that.
But like I said, I just can't wait for it.
Yeah, it's going to be exciting draft. It really is.
It's always more exciting when you have quarterbacks coming off the board.
I mean, just going back to like we said, quarterbacks are sexier than O'Lanlin.
O'Lanlin's not in a very sexy position.
So when you're watching the draft spectacular and watching all these quarterbacks off the board, it's sexier.
I mean, you have more drama, drama feeling, oh, who's going to go where, who's going to go where.
And the quarterback, the most important position in all of sports, it's a lot of drama.
And it makes it for a very exciting draft to watch.
Because I'm going to say there's a bunch of teams from the look at this from the top 12.
We're like we were talking about Denver. They need to easily train up either.
I see two teams that can train up right now that could train up because they need to train up.
Or they're going to sign or train after go after a quarterback.
Minnesota and Denver are either going to train up or they go train for somebody.
Because Minnesota got nobody right now.
Yeah, I could see Minnesota training up to get a quarterback or maybe they just stay put and be fine with whoever they get.
I mean, who knows? I mean, we got to see.
Who knows how the draft day goes? We just got to wait and see.
What is it? April 20 something? April 22nd. There you go.
Or April 25th I think. Yeah, somewhere around there.
I mean, we're going to wait and see. We're probably both watch it.
We might even do a draft day spectacular on the podcast.
We might actually do that. We could do that. The first day of the draft do that.
Mike, we may actually need to do that. That sounds like a cool idea.
We have to look into that. All right. Let's see.
Next topic here we got.
OK, so who do we think is going to win the NFL MVP next season?
See, this kind of a hard prediction because we're so far out from the MVP.
Last year you had Lamar Jackson won it. I'm not afraid of Lamar.
I don't like his game. I don't like him as a person very much.
Well, OK, that sounds kind of rude. No offense, Lamar. I'm just not a huge fan of him.
So I don't think he should have won, but he won. Whatever. Get over it, right?
So who do we think is going to win the next MVP?
You know, you have front runners Mahomes, Lamar, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen.
Those are probably the four front runners. Would you agree?
There's a couple front runners, but I'm going to say this.
For my opinion, for my pick, it depends on what the NFL does with this rule.
If they fucking do something to the tush push, if they ban it, ban Jalen Hurd for not even winning the MVP,
then I think personally Christian McCavie is going to win the MVP.
Bro, come on. You know a quarterback is going to win it.
A quarterback will win it, but he was in the running for it this year though.
Yeah, but he's not going to win it though.
I don't know. If he does what he did last year, he definitely going to win it.
But if he does it to another level, because you know that O-line is stacked over there and on in San Francisco.
But if it's not a quarterback, or if it is a quarterback, I'm going to say either Jalen Hurd.
Boo.
I don't want to give it to him, but at the same time though.
Boo, Philly.
I don't want to give it to him. I genuinely do not.
But like I said, it depends on what the NFL does with the fucking tush push.
That's a key thing for him. I don't want to say that's a main thing for him.
You look at last season, they had a great start to the season.
But then coming out, I think the last five or six games they lost.
And it was really bad.
I think they went one and five, their last couple games I think.
And they did terribly.
You look at the tush push was not very successful, those last couple games.
You could look at their playoff game versus the Bucs.
They could not use the tush push to save their lives.
I mean, I think teams have the tush push figured out.
I really do.
I think, actually you know what, without Jason Kelsey there.
Yeah, that's big time.
You got to factor that in.
Because Jason Kelsey was the life and blood of that NFL offense.
And the Eagles was the life and blood of that tush push.
So I do think, I just need to see what that center is going to do.
That new center is going to do.
He's not Jason Kelsey now.
We may never know. You got to think about it.
Jason Kelsey was a walk, I think, wasn't he a walk on?
I don't even know.
He came from Cincinnati and no one, he went late in the draft.
Think about this.
Yeah, no one thought he was going to be anything.
But then again, no one thinks anything of the O-line.
O-line's not sexy.
But it's not even that.
But even think about this, okay?
It's still the matter of the chance again.
You may think it's like the Steelers long time ago
when they drafted Antonio Brown in the eighth round.
Did you think that the A-B was going to be booming?
No, you look at players that far in and say they're going to be great.
Exactly.
You may never know.
Their center may be phenomenal.
And they got a good ass fucking O-line coach.
So I feel like they're going to be solid.
But if it's not Jalen Hurts, I might either say if Aaron Rodgers stays healthy,
give it to Aaron Rodgers.
But I got to see how that offense is going to be.
You can't just say give it to Aaron Rodgers.
He's got to perform.
That's what I was just about to say.
He won two week MVP awards with Green Bay a couple of seasons ago.
It was a week MVP awards.
He's got Drews too.
How do you feel about that?
What?
He stole Drews MVP too.
I'm talking about the two years he won back to back in like 2019, 2020.
Those were deserved.
With Des Packard's time.
Those were deserved.
No, they weren't.
They were weak.
They were deserved.
They were better than Brady.
Brady's MVP, bro.
I mean, he was close from Brady though.
Him and Brady were neck and neck on that one.
But like I said, it depends on how that offense goes for me.
Then I'll give it to Rodgers.
It just really depends.
That offensive line does fucking scare me.
Because literally the first play of the game, Drew was wide open.
Just.
So I don't need another ACL.
Not ACL.
Okay, Lee's here.
From my favorite quarterback.
So I need that offensive line to actually like block.
Do you trust the Jets to put a competent team around Rodgers?
At this point?
I mean, they're doing everything he says.
They are.
Why not?
I feel like they are.
But.
I do think it may go back to Patrick Mahomes.
Mahomes, baby.
I don't want to give it to him.
I genuinely do not want to give it to him.
Give him for that three-peat.
Give him for that three-peat on the Super Bowl.
Do I think they'll win the Super Bowl again?
Fuck, no.
Three-peat.
Come on.
Three-peat.
Let's go.
Here on the Spicy Pod, we are rooting for the Chiefs to have a three-peat.
No, the fuck we don't.
Yes, we are.
No, the fuck we don't.
Three-peat.
No, the fuck we don't.
Chiefs Kingdom, baby.
No, the fuck we don't.
Oh, and you call me a bane wagon.
Hold up now.
And you call me a bane wagon.
Yeah.
Come on now.
You just exposed yourself.
Hold up.
No.
You heard it here first, folks.
That is not my favorite team.
You just exposed yourself.
I like the quarterback.
I'm rooting for Mahomes.
I am.
Look, look, look.
There you go.
Look, look, look.
Anyway, guys.
What the fuck was I going to say?
I don't know.
There's a quarterback in Houston that's going to stop that bullshit if the big ones don't
do shit.
Are you sure about that?
You think CJ Strahl is going to take him on Mahomes and beat him?
As fucking literally.
Think about it.
They didn't really have a run game last year, and look what they were doing.
They were cooked.
DeMarco Ryan was like, OK, I trust you to pass the ball.
Not many coaches in the NFL are going to trust their rookies to pass the ball.
I think Texas will be really good next year.
I do.
I don't know if they're going to beat the Chiefs because the Chiefs just got a receiver.
It's pretty good.
Hollywood Brown.
Absolutely, baby.
But here's the thing, though.
I'm going to say this.
With the addition of Joe Bixson, that run game opens up a lot more.
And you got to think of who's coming back.
You got Niko Collins out there.
You got Tank Del coming back.
So that's already a big deal.
I think that's a big deal.
But I think it's a big deal.
I think it's a big deal.
They have the most expectations because people are gonna look at the chiefs. Yeah, and be like, okay
What are we all gonna do again this year? They may read it for the chiefs. No
You need to tell me Taylor Swift would bring in 300 million dollars for every time she went to a home game
Stop it. No, it's not me. Stop. You're just you can start
Bs is solid
All right, so or the chiefs in the Texas the best team of AFC
Will they be in the AFC championship, I mean I think I view them as the two best teams the AFC I
Think so if they stay healthy
If not, yeah, well health is the big factor in everything because health is unpredictable if not. I
Don't want to give it to the Ravens. I absolutely do not want to give it to the great
I don't like the Ravens either, but I'll tell you why it might be the Ravens because you know Lamar you Lamar
The thing about the more than makes well, they got their candy
Well, we forgot to talk about that. They got their candy in the backfield now see him in my personal opinion
That's not really gonna do anything. You don't think so
Because I mean think about Lamar already runs around if they would assign okay
But now they have less pressure on the Marta be the total offense now they got
Lamar 2.0. I mean Derek Henry get throw you saw that test down passing me
last year
See but the thing with that though is that
With you to this team coming up
Zay flowers needs to perform like
He's a good ass body cheaper. No, he's gonna be a one day before you perform last year now. I would have added most
Yeah, but I mean he's a rookie that kind of pressure gets to you when you're working
No, I think literally
if you would have just held on to that ball that she's with him that she's for Ravens would have been in Super Bowl, but
You can't really do what you're the one that just sheds a sentence right for the cheese
I'm there's come on dog. I mean that's just me though
But you know, you can't bring it to the for the chiefs to win, too
I mean, well, I think Derek can do is gonna be a big addition to the ratings
I think he's huge. He will be the best running back that the reason I've had in a while
but like like we talked about earlier like
We don't really know
like if
They've raised a draft made go after T Higgins or somebody you may never know. Oh, well
We gotta look at as of now as of now Derek Henry is a huge addition
I think he's gonna take a lot of pressure off Lamar to perform and do amazing. I
Think he's gonna be great. I mean for stability of that Raven scene to know that he's there
He's got their backs. He's gonna be a steady force in the game
Whereas you couldn't trust any other Ravens money back. I mean income had a year, but I mean me not really
I mean, what are they running back? They've had I
Mean, I can't jk. Dobbins and hurt too many times. Yeah, you can't just take it out in the clutch
So you can't dare Henry. You know, I'm gonna go but same time. He's not there Henry good
I'm not saying not there Henry good, but I'm saying he's good
He's very good not no elite running back level
but like we talked about earlier like
When we when we when you have players that like for their ACL shit
It's kind of kind of hard to come back
And so that's kind of
How it is with Jk. Dobbins and that's why they were just okay. We're gonna go after Derek Henry
Which makes sense? But the same time for me
I would have gone after another wide receivers or trying to get a rating organization to be like, hey
Could we please go after T Higgins like?
Could we have another receiver to throw to?
Because then they could just fucking double team they flowers all the time
Yeah, but then you could also just run it up the middle with Derek Henry. So like
It's really depends what you can do. So we got the Chiefs. We've got the Texans and we got the Ravens
That's our picks for the best teams they see
Yeah, yeah
If the big ones don't do anything then
Bingham rather I hate to say but well, we got every division covered except the East so we don't make East to go
He's going the East then I mean, I guess it's between the Bills and the Dolphins, right?
Either Bills, Dolphins or Jets
Yeah, Jets. Because we don't know what they are not. Yeah, that's still an X factor, you know
Yeah, that's so next factor. No, I think the Jets won
I think the Bills got a lot worse with the other cuts they had to make I don't know what they're doing
In my opinion, they actually signed a consistent wide receiver, too
They actually gave Davis was inconsistent in my opinion
You can even deserve that contract but their defense got worse though. They're getting their defense. They did worse
I will say that so that's kind of what makes it not
Up there
Then
Miami it just really depends on who is playing. Yeah, I don't trust Miami in the playoffs or like
In general, I mean, I think they'll have a great regular season again, but I just don't trust them until you prove it to me
You know, whereas I trust Rodgers in the playoffs because he's proved it to me that he can go to the championship, right?
When I say about
The Dolphins though
Like I said, it just depends on to his flight. But in my opinion
If I'm the Dolphins by this time right now, I think it'd be time to move on to it. Ooh
That's a hot tea because spacey I take for the spacey I pod thing about but the receivers that you have
They're more of a deep threat. I want to move on from to her
I want to
To I I do want to because I think why they the receivers he has are a deep threat the motherfuckers can't throw that far
It'd be different if I had a job down to team up with a tiger kill and a general water and Josh Allen could just
Throw it far to a can't really throw it that far. So who would you get if you're the Dolphins?
Would you try to draft a quarterback or go after one and I trade I
Do after if I'm
I am the
Dolphins
I'm gonna take a I'm gonna make a quick little phone call to the Chargers
Just remember
They
Draft a they traded quarterbacks
Justin Herbert went to the
Chargers instead of the Dolphins because they traded picks and now you're saying what three four years later? Oh
Where do we do that trade? I think so too because
Think about it. They would want to move on from that big contract because they don't know what Justin Herbert's gonna do
because I
Think he's getting already annoyed with that team and with
Jim Harbaugh Jim Harbaugh. It's the Chargers are an expat with Jim Harbaugh
I think they're gonna be much improved because of Jim Harbaugh
but like
It also depends on what they do if
Jim Harbaugh tries to grab the whole Michigan team to the Chargers and like if I'm just in her room
I'll be like what the fuck and I'm gonna try to get someplace where I have deep threats like to in Hyreep
That I can just throw to all day and I gotta stop that coming into I got the ball in our chain
I got a boaster and I got Jeff Wilson in case of emergencies
You really then do
But still
So if you're saying all that why would you as the Chargers want to make that trade to get to and?
Pushed her foot out the building because to
Chargers to us money. Oh
Yeah, it's us money, but I mean to is not as good as Herbert to is not as good but
You gotta think there might Williams no key to now
Also, the Chargers have been hurt last season like a lot of the teams hurt
But I but you think you have you can
Trade to the Chargers
You have you can
trade her word
for to a
For less one less money and then to it also gives you the opportunity. Hey we can sign more people
because I've said cast base
Because you know you have less cat yet more cat space now. Yeah, I see a point
That's your point because like I said, no Mike Williams no Keenan Allen
They they're gonna have third stringers running the rest and they're gonna put Johnson run the ball
I mean he wasn't bad. But like he could have been better though
but
It just really depends on what they want to do and
I'm a Chargers. I'm taking someone
that is
Making less money make get that get get him and then
Try to sign like some other receivers and stuff because the draft spots are already there for
Now see who they get a running back if they get Blake form
That would be a bad pick up either because that's arguably the best running back in the draft. That is the best
running back in the draft
Let's go through the interview real quick. We're going through each division. Let's just say who's going division
I got the Falcons in the south. I got the Lions in the north
The Niners can go in the west and I think I'll take the
You know, I'll take the Cowboys in the east. I have
Niners I have Philly
I have
I have Falcons
Who else am I missing? North
In the north. I'm gonna take the Lions
The Lions yeah, yeah
Green Bay shocks me but the thing about Green Bay though Green Bay could because Jordan Love proved that he's a really good quarterback last season
And I didn't expect that because I thought Jordan Love's this is a draft bust
I'm gonna admit it. I thought he was stable, but he improved himself last season
See I knew he wasn't going to be a bust
I didn't think he'd perform as good as he did but I knew he wasn't going to be a bust because
When you sit down and you're like, oh, I'm going to be a bust
I knew he wasn't going to be a bust because when you sit behind someone as great as Aaron Rodgers
Not trying to be this type of person, but when you sit behind someone as great as Aaron Rodgers
You're gonna
Learn so much shit about the quarterback play
That not a regular quarterback is going to teach you
Well look at Jacobi Percett. He sat behind Tom Brady for a bunch of years
He was good for a little bit of games
Okay, so Jordan Love could be good for a little bit of games then?
The thing about Jordan Love and Jacobi Percett, Jordan Love can throw that bitch baller
Jordan Love can get out of the pocket
Well your argument, you can't just make the argument because lots of quarterbacks have sat behind
Some of the GOATs quarterbacks and they haven't done anything
You could look at Jacobi Percett for example, Jimmy Garoppolo
Yeah, but here's the type of stuff
I hate this whole argument that Cam Newton has brought upon us nowadays
What?
About the game managers
Bro, I love me some game managers, come on
You sitting behind Tom Brady as a game manager, that is different
That's like me sitting behind Dak Prescott
I'm just going to learn how to manage the game
Versus when I sit behind Aaron Rodgers who actually isn't a game manager
That actually has to go run out, throw the ball, run out of the pocket, you know, do all this amazing stuff
He's technically a game manager but at the same time though
He's something he knows would agree doing all this
It's the levels too though, that's the thing that I'm trying to say
Like you could say, oh, some people sat behind Tom Brady and blah blah blah
Well, you got to think of how many of them were successful sitting behind Brady
None of them were successful sitting behind Brady
Because Brady was slow towards the end of his career
Look at Jimmy Garoppolo right now
Motherfucker signing on the Rams
He had some good years with the Niners though
But that's the Niners though, that's the thing
Yeah, yeah, he went to the Raiders and then he did not win
So we can say he's probably not a great NFL quarterback
No, Jacobi Percent, not good either
But the thing that was making him so special was Belichick's system
Yeah, yeah
And so that's what was keeping them a job
We can say that, but alright
Alright, let's move on to the next topic
I think we covered that topic pretty extensively
Who do you think will win the NBA MVP?
That's a little more relevant because the NBA season is just wrapping up
This is March 17th, so we got like a month left in the NBA regular season
So we got a pretty good idea of who's the top players, who's not the top players
Jokic of course is always up there, he won back to back MVP's
He got robbed last year, right? Robbed?
No
Yeah, we don't like Philadelphia in this podcast
You fucking hate Philly, give and be is fucking great
Anyways, to everyone listening in Philadelphia, go fuck yourself
You are not welcome in this podcast
I support you
Well, Evan's a bitch, that's why he supports you
Do not listen to this podcast if you're from Philadelphia
Bruce, do you want people listening to our podcast?
None of them from Philly
I support you, Philly
I'm going to defend you a little bit
Send all your hate mail to Landon
I'll defend you a little bit, Philly, but just don't be arrogant
If you all become arrogant little shits, then I'll defend you
Alright, well anyways, we got Jokic and the MVP race
We got SGA with the OKC Thunder breakout team this year
Have been really good, not many expectations going into this year
But they've definitely broken those expectations
And they've been really good, one of the top teams in the West
Another MVP candidate you have, who am I? Luka
Luka MVP candidate, Luka's been really good
But the Mavs won a top team
Would they give the MVP to a what? 6th, 7th seed?
You know, that's the whole question
You gotta be a top teammate to get the MVP
I don't know, we'll probably discuss that
What do you think?
They're going to give it to Jokic because they always digs up Jokic
Hold up, hold up, come on, bring some facts here
Don't just say that
Do you honestly want me to bring you some facts?
Yeah, do not
Jokic has the better team
Bro, if you put Luka on that Denver Nuggets team
They're cooking, they're absolute cooking
The only not top 4 seed to win MVP was Russell Westbrook
He was the 6th seed
And that's because he averaged a triple double
Hold up, he averaged a triple double and all that
He was the 6th seed
So that's the only MVP to not be a top 4 seed
I don't think they'd give it to Luka if he's not a top 4 seed
They would absolutely give it to Luka
But I'll tell you why they're not going to give it to Luka
Because, one, like I said, they always digs up Jokic
Before you're like, hey, bring some fucking facts into it
I'm going to tell you why
He has the better team
They're going to give it to Jokic
But who I think should deserve it is either between Luka or SGA
SGA has over 57, I think, 30 point games this year
Yeah, SGA has a lot of 30 point games
I don't know the exact number but
It's definitely a lot
He's got to revict
That's all you need to know
Honestly, I think SGA should win, in my opinion
I mean, he is a top 4 seed and he's really good
He just doesn't have the name recognition
I mean, not as many people know about SGA as they do Jokic
Yeah, baby, fucking exactly, that's what I'm saying
Yeah, that could be marketing
That could just be ESPNT and TNT people
Did TDA fucking them all? Yeah
Well, okay, Evan, let's stop saying that
Okay, let's actually give some facts to it
Let's give some things
That is what you just said was factual though
Alright, Evan, calm down here
I'm going to need you to not take your clothes off
Keep your clothes to yourself
I don't want to see you naked
Stop with all that BS
Let's just talk about what we're going to talk about
You're weird
That's bruh
Keep it sane, hold up
You are, Zana
Okay, finish what you were saying about Jokic
Alright, well, do you like Jokic?
Do you personally like Jokic?
See, I like how Jokic plays on the offensive side of the ball
Because he can post stuff, he can do whatever
Defensively, he's a lazy as fuck
He's improved defensively from earlier in his career
Could you agree on that?
Yes, he has improved, I fucking hope so
He's not maybe a top five defender
But he has improved defensively, would you agree?
Yes, he has improved defensively
But the thing is, that's helping him win this award
The MVP is mainly an offensive award, would you agree?
Yes
Okay then, so why are we going to take defensive in a huge account?
Because if we're going to take defensive into account
Because if you look at all the times the Honest won the award
He won the MVP and won the defensive player in the same year
The same exact year
So you've got to think, who performs the best on their team
Shay, he don't really play that bad a defense
But in both the situations, they both are on a top team
The NBA gives it to the top teams, they don't give it to the bottom teams
But Luka can earn it though
But here's the thing that I don't like about how they do it, Luka
I think what they are personally doing to Luka is like
How do I say it?
Okay, so let's just say
I'm going to give you an example
When B actually plays his full 40 minutes of the game, okay?
Once he actually starts playing 40 minutes
Let's just say he averages 40 points a game
And 20 rebounds and 10 assists
Magically, some fucking hell
People are going to look at that as
People's expectations are always going to be high
So the next season we're going to look at that
And we're going to be like, okay
We expect higher now
People's satisfaction are never set in stone for this MVP race
You get what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, I understand
So that is why I think they're just going with Jokic
Because they're just kind of looking at it as like
Okay, one, he's a very marketable man like you said
Two, he is performing at a top level
He is, I mean nothing really wrong with that
Three, like he's putting up the numbers
But he has always put up the numbers
If we probably look at his stats right now
I don't think he's even approved
He's done the same numbers as we did like the past couple years
I mean if you want to pull up the stats you can
No matter what you make
No, let's just go off the ref
I mean, you know, when you look at it
Something else to take into consideration
Is voter fatigue
It's been a thing in the NBA MVP race for years
You could argue that's why Jokic didn't win it last year
I mean, maybe not
But voter fatigue, Jokic has won it for two straight years
So, were the voters tired of voting for Jokic?
Did they want someone else?
I don't even think they're tired of Jokic, I think
I mean, that's why Bron can't win more MVPs
It's because voter fatigue
I mean, that's why Kobe ain't won another one
Right, because voter fatigue
So, and I personally think that it's just them wanting to move on from the hey
Instead of players scoring 40 points a game
How about we just go to triple doubles now?
Yeah, I mean like you were saying that people expectations change
And so that's why I personally think they're going to give it to Jokic
Because he is a top team in the league
He's got a top team in the league
He's got the better team
He's performing the best overall on offense
He's there more consistently than these other dudes
Because I mean, number three on the MVP ranking list is Giannis
Luka's not even number three
He's, I think, fourth
I mean, I personally think Luka's better than Giannis
Because you know, Luka will actually win games when he's there
But that's a conversation for another time
But I don't know what I'm saying right now
But yeah, we can both see it
It's kind of clear that they're going to give it to Jokic, right?
Yeah, they're going to give it to Jokic
But do I personally think that Jokic deserves it?
No
And he doesn't even care
He's just going to go ride his horses
He does not care about these NBA and VP awards
He is legit just going to ride his horses
That's what I personally think
Go back to Serbia and ride his horses
That's what I personally think will happen
He's going to win a third MVP
And see, I think they're, I don't want to say they're rigging it
Because...
You think everything's rigged, come on
I mean, can you hear me out, okay?
He wins a third MVP in a row
What other center has won three MVPs?
You really think they're rigging it?
How many centers have won three MVPs?
I don't know the stats, I don't know
No other center, and if you say Tendulki, Tendulki's a powerful word
So that don't count
No other center, I believe, has won three MVPs
You know what I think won three MVPs?
He's playing against bombers later
Okay, so it's different, alright? Okay
He's playing against the white, he's playing against 5'9 white people
So like...
Like me, come on
Exactly, so like...
Bro, I'm just kidding, I'm like 6'4, I'm jacked
I got all this muscle right now, right Evan?
Mmhmm
Everyone knows this is true
He's Dr. Love for a reason, anyways
Let's go to the next topic
What do we think about sports possibly being rigged for the sake of Vegas and family sports betting?
I mean we were kind of touching this earlier, bits and pieces throughout the podcast
You obviously think it's a big conspiracy
Everything's rigged, C-Football's rigged, NBA, MVPs rigged
Everything's rigged, right Evan?
I'm gonna tell you why
Yeah, you think everything's rigged, huh?
I don't think everything's rigged
You about to say the election is very tough
The past election
I was not gonna do that
We're not gonna argue that, because I mean, we're definitely not, but anyways
I personally think it's rigged, I'll tell you why
My boy Malcolm told me the other day, because you also gotta look at multiple factors into it
With NBA, okay? You got referees that rig the game
Look at Tim Donahue
Alright, that was one ref that got caught
He did crimes, but you don't have any proof that it's being rigged today
I have no physical proof that Vegas is rigging them, because I mean, people can hide their marks really fucking good
Oh yeah, rich people, they know how to hide stuff
Oh exactly, like, that's the thing
And my boy Malcolm was telling me, I'm gonna give you a nice little story
Bro, no one cares about your boy Malcolm
I wanna focus on you, what is your argument?
Here's the, listen to the story
So we were at Walk-ons
We're on a family, we look at you playing to make a Super Bowl bet
This man was like, man, how come the Chiefs are the underdogs?
And everyone knew they were gonna win
Why would they make them the underdogs?
Like, shouldn't they be the favorites?
But Las Vegas looking at it as the 49ers are the favorites
Oh, they got the better key, they're the underdogs
They try to make their money
But in reality though, if you looked at how many people placed their bets on the Super Bowl
It was like 1.7 billion people placed a bet on the Super Bowl
It was a lot, a crazy, record amount of money spent on sports betting the Super Bowl
It was insane
And that's what I'm saying
So, let's just say you never got into football before
You were just now, you were from France and you're like, huh, I wanna watch the Super Bowl
I wanna bet on the Super Bowl
And you're just looking at both of these teams
And you're just like, huh, I heard that the 49ers are gonna win it
Because, you know, I'm just doing this for Shits and Gables
Well, someone like that would probably look at the records of the teams
And say the 49ers had the better record during the regular season
And they're forward winning the Super Bowl
And would place their money on the 49ers
But then, once the Super Bowl time comes, they lose their money
Okay
So, if, and think about this
Everyone that was experienced, that knows football, that watches football
Bro, you mean to tell me
You knew, you didn't know out the gate that Kansas City was not gonna win that Super Bowl
I didn't know that
I actually picked the Niners to win
Maybe I'm a contrarian, but I picked the Niners to win
I felt like they had a better team
Did you think the Niners had a better team?
I felt like the Niners had a better team
Exactly
I also felt like
Two things in that situation
It's like bet don't break
You don't bet
It's like that situation
Fuck with Patrick Wilms
You don't bet on Patrick Wilms
You don't bet against Patrick Wilms
That's why
Whenever, let's just say the new people come in
And they're looking at the 49ers
And they're like, oh, I think the 49ers are gonna win
And then, looking at all these people that score a touchdown
You know how people probably bet that George Kittle was gonna get a touchdown
Or over like 25 yards
But instead, he got like one catch for like one yard
So you think he only got that one catch
Because he wanted to screw over the people who bet on him?
No
Because there's some shit that I think the person could be rigged
I mean, we've seen athletes
We've seen people come out about it being fake
Look, Jaylar Ramsey, whenever he was on the Jaguars
Whenever he was playing town ready
He deleted a tweet
Saying like Coach was telling him to like
Settle the game
Like, don't win the game
I don't know how true that is
You're just bringing that up
We'd have to fact check that now
You can fact check it only if you want
But they have some players come out
And
Let's keep going
Perfect example right here
It was on Kevin Garnett's show I think
There was some player that I was talking about
You know
The Philadelphia 76ers made it to the second round
They're playing Boston
They're playing against Kevin Garnett
So the dude's like
The dude that was actually playing
He was like a rookie or something
He's getting excited
He was like, yeah man, I can't wait to play Boston
And so one of his teammates
I forgot who it was
I need to find this Kuponash around here
He was like
Do you honestly think they're going to let the 76ers at the time
Beat the Boston Celtics
With Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, all that
All them
Think about it
Ratings do come into factor though
If you're making that argument
Then you would think Super Teams always win no matter what
No
When they don't
You have Super Teams that fail all the time
But you look at Brooklyn
With James Horan, Kevin Duane, Kyrie Irving
You think they would just give it to them
Because they have Super Stars
No
That's probably not what I'm saying
Because like we talked about earlier
With the 49ers
They had the better team, right?
Yeah
So
We can just
Let's just say that Brooklyn Nets are playing in the finals
Against the Phoenix Suns that year
Let's just say
KD made the shot
And now they're playing the Phoenix Suns
People are going to look at the Phoenix Suns
They're going to be like, huh
The Phoenix Suns are the underdogs in this situation
But the favorites are the Nets
So I'm going to place my money in like a new better
Huh
I would place my money on the Brooklyn Nets
Because of the Star Power
But you know some people always have that superstition of just like
I think the Suns actually play like solid team ball
It just really depends on what they want to happen at the time
Like for ratings and stuff
Do you understand what I'm saying?
Alright, so you're saying it's a narrative thing
Whatever they want to happen for ratings
They're going to rate it to that, to happen
Because think about this, okay?
Like we were talking about Taylor Swift earlier, okay?
She was bringing it
Before she was coming to the games
They were losing, right?
They were sucking
Chiefs were losing
They were not sucking
They were sucking
They were not sucking
They were sucking
Chiefs kingdom, we do not promote the sucking
I'll have a good cheese
Give me a second
Chiefs record
Hold up, so you're about to tell me that
Taylor Swift magically turned the Chiefs season around
I'm not going to say magically turned the Chiefs season around
Pretty much what you're saying that
Taylor Swift is the only reason why they started winning games
It's not because they figured out how to click on the offense
Or maybe Travis Kelsey started playing better
Or maybe my home started playing better
Travis Kelsey was playing better, alright?
Yeah, yeah
Made my argument even more valid
But, like look, they weren't winning close game
No, your point is it's rigged
I'm not saying it's rigged
I'm not saying it
I'm saying it's rigged to a certain extent
If that makes sense
Because you could let it all just play out
Because like, for example, I've made a
Let it all play out, okay, in the Super Bowl
Let it all play out
Barack Pardee versus Patrick Holmes
My Holmes is the better quarterback in the clutch
That's why he won
He didn't win because, oh, Taylor Swift
We've got to show Taylor Swift kills and pass and kills
That is absolutely how that happened
Because legit, like, if Taylor Swift bringing $300 million
To your damn franchise, okay?
Every single time she's at a home game
Every single time, like, you're making
You're swimming in money
You can do the swimming, don't die
Okay, but they wouldn't make that much money
In the Super Bowl even if they lost, correct?
No, they're going to make even more money
Why?
Taylor Swift did that, the game
Okay, she'd be at the quarterback
Regardless if they won or lost the Super Bowl, correct?
Can you say it again?
So she'd be at the game
Regardless if they won or lost, right?
I don't know about that
You think she wouldn't go to the game if they lost?
I have no idea
I'm not Taylor Swift, I ain't going to determine that
I don't know, but what I'm saying is
Think about this, okay?
Like we talked about earlier
Rich men got ways to cover their tracks
So you don't think, okay, Taylor Swift
Bring all this money in for me
And now when the Super Bowl comes
You got all these international fans
That know Taylor Swift
You don't think they're going to look at that and be like, huh
That's Taylor Swift or Travis Kelce
I might
You got to actually look at it
You can't be blind to it
In some situations, I feel like they let it play out
For example, we're going to pick
Only in some situations?
Only in some, okay
In some situations I do think they raked
But that's also because
I don't think that Vegas is like
Vegas is going to rake all the games
Because you could just be without
It's going to be too obvious, right?
I'm going to tell you something, okay?
I'm going to tell you, I fell for this legit
About three weeks ago
Of course you did
Very bellable, very stupid
I had a parlay
So I needed one leg to hit
It was the Clippers versus the Bucks
The catch was though
Was that Giannis was out
His Achilles was hurt
So
Clippers won that game
No
No, the Bucks won
The Bucks won
Because they knew they were going to drop 40
So if you look at that
They just won this morning by the way
When without Giannis
Because Dane had a game
And see, the Bucks are something special right now
The Bucks are actually turning on their season
They're doing really good right now
Doc Rivers
We got to give it up to Doc Rivers
Give it up to Doc Rivers baby
But like
We were talking about earlier
The better team
The Clippers
Because everyone was healthy at the time
Russ didn't break his hand before then
Russ was playing and all that shit
So
I placed my
I thought the Clippers were going to win
Obviously I didn't expect Dane to drop 40
So therefore
That I feel like that's a game rigged by Vegas
But if it's like let's just say
They can have some occasional game
Okay
Like Green Apple
Do you think that actually
I'm going to give you something even better today
And it happened today too
If you just let them boys play out
Do you think the Heat are going to lose by 3 points
To the Detroit Pistons
You just let them play out
If you let them play out
The Heat are a better team than the Pistons
You think they're going to blow them out right?
I don't know, the Pistons have been playing really good lately
Have they not? Evan
Look at the Pistons
The last couple games they've been playing pretty good
Not like top tier
But they've been
They started off the season absolutely terrible
But like recently
They've actually looked confident
Y'all just made the finals last season
We have, yeah
So
Heat Culture
Fuck that
Y'all just made the finals last season
Because of Heat Culture
No
Continue, continue, go ahead
No, anyways
You don't think
This podcast supports Heat Culture by the way
Continue
You don't think
Y'all would be blowing out the Pistons
By a lot
No, because like I said
The Pistons have been playing pretty good as of late
No, no
If we're playing the Hornets
I expect us to blow out the Hornets
Y'all have a better lineup than the Detroit Pistons
Y'all have Jimmy Butler cancel out Kate Cunningham
That's who y'all have
Everybody else can do whatever the fuck they want
BAM's gonna kill Jaylen Derp
Y'all can do whatever the fuck y'all want
Y'all have been shooting pretty fucking solid
Especially with Harry Roach here
Y'all got a pretty solid lineup
I expect y'all to blow them out
That's the thing
But you don't think Vegas is gonna rig it a little bit to where y'all win
I mean I ain't see the three pointer today
But you get what I'm saying
Let's just say
Look better
I know that Miami's gonna win
But I think they're gonna win
We're gonna
I'm gonna say I'm gonna come take it over
Okay
I think they're gonna cover the over
Okay, you're taking the heat of the over
You're saying right?
Like they're gonna win by over 4.5 points
Okay
We're seven points
Okay
You don't think that I will win the money line
But when it comes to the over
I lost
I still lost because
Think about it
They only won by three points
You get what I'm saying?
See it all works by what people are betting
So more people are betting on the heat
Then they're gonna decrease that money line
If more people are betting on the pistons
They're gonna increase that money line
So it all goes off of an algorithm first of all
Second of all what people are betting themselves
And third of all what Vegas is having the bet be placed at to begin with
And that's what I'm saying because like
Like I said I don't think they're gonna rig all the games
Because one you don't know what games are gonna rig
You should
Y'all won today y'all put your legs loose to the fucking board of tomorrow
Yeah
Have you ever played sports before?
Yes
You have
I know you have
You've been in that competition mode then right?
Yeah
Yeah in a game going at it right?
Right you've been in that situation?
Okay
In that situation you're really gonna think these people can tell you to throw the game
If it's to promote better ratings
If it's legit if it's your higher bosses okay?
Yeah yeah your coach your general manager
Your higher bosses let's just say it's NBA league officials
I'm not saying they're doing this but I'm just saying that they're telling you
You just said they did this
But here's the thing though let me explain
Evan
Let me explain
So if you let's just say it's a higher league upper league representative
And they're like okay throw the game
You don't think that they're gonna punish you for it if you don't throw the game?
Absolutely
But at the same time though what I'm saying is
Hold on this Macbook about to die
Yeah grab this toy right here go plug it in
I'm gonna make a point real quick okay
So if you're in the game you're maybe not a star player
You're just a role player right and you're in the game
And these people get in your head telling you hey you need to throw the game
You need to let LeBron dunk like five times on you
You as a player you'll be like yeah yeah sure boss let me get bodied by LeBron
That's the attitude you're saying these players have?
I'm not saying they're doing it every time though
I'm saying for certain games you may have to let LeBron do seven dunks for this one game
But then the next game they may come up to you and be like okay
How about you actually do something you actually score 35 on LeBron
Would you as a player want that to happen?
I wouldn't want it to happen
You wouldn't want that to happen to your coach saying hey let LeBron dunk on you seven times and lose the game
But you gotta think these leagues are businesses
Do you think I don't okay I didn't want to see Nikola Yogi to no damn finals last year
Okay okay so if the league was rigged why do you think that heat in the Nuggets got in the finals
Over the Lakers and the Celtics
Because who the fuck in Vegas would decide hey I'm placing a bet on the Miami Heat to make the final
Y'all were the eighth seed players
The ratings would be way higher with the Celtics and Lakers would they not
They would absolutely be high
Exactly
But at the same time though you would also have to look at it like you are not understanding my point
I'm saying they're rigging some games let's just say for example okay
You have we're gonna take that Lakers and Clippers oh not Lakers and Clippers game
The Bucks and Clippers game for example and then you got the Pelicans and Hornets for example okay
If you are betting with the Yannis being out who are you betting on
Just tell me
With Yannis being out I bet on the Clippers
There you go and Pelicans and Charlotte okay who are you gonna bet on
The Pelicans and the Charlotte Warrens I would probably bet the Pelicans
So they may let the Pelicans and Hornets play against each other like actually just let them play
Not tell them anything hey you don't need to throw this fucking game
It's fucking bullshit anyway most of the people are gonna let you win so the Pelicans are gonna win
But for that Bucks game not many people are going to think hey you know
Yannis is out people are gonna lean towards the Clippers now
So how about like y'all actually win this time Vegas gets their money you get a win
You get on national television everybody's happy win win
If everything is just a big conspiracy and everything like this
Wouldn't you think people would come out
Because the more people who tell about this conspiracy of rigging games the harder it is to keep secret
We literally just had a whole situation of the referee named Tim Donaghy
That was in the early 2000s yes that was a bad ref and he was connected to a couple other refs so bad
But in today's game wouldn't you think
He legit just had a referee that literally might get fired because he had bias
He had Boston Celtics he was a Boston Celtics fan
Okay then he might get fired so he's gonna be punished right
Yeah he might get fired he's gonna be punished
So if these games are rigged then the riggers will get punished then right
If people are finding out think about it the general public found out about this
It's hard to keep secret something this big
But if they keep it a secret though and let's say it doesn't get out you don't think that man is still gonna have a job
Okay do you think it would be easy to keep this rigging thing a secret
If he didn't have a second burner account I think it would have been a good ass secret if he didn't have a second twitter account
How many people have to be involved for this whole conspiracy to happen though
Wouldn't it be hundreds if not thousands of people that know that this game is rigged
And you wouldn't think one of them would say something to get fame or money
You got money talks like money fucking talks
If they come out then they're gonna get money from interviews
And they're gonna be on probably national television with money saying hey
I have this leaked that these things are happening and I have proof
Okay versus would I rather be going on an interview on Fox News making probably about like not even a million dollars
About like 200,000 dollars just to show my face just to talk about something that's considered to be
If it's that big you're gonna get them big in the Fox News
You'll probably go on ABC, Good Morning America, you'll get in all the stations
You couldn't even meet the president probably talk about the room
No because these things are businesses
You know what we're gonna have a guest on here one day and I'm gonna give you more value
Yeah okay let's go over this on another topic
We will actually have to finish this another time
We will we're gonna talk about this on another podcast too because my friend Evan here
He's kind of slow in the head I don't really think he has it all together
He's gotta get a little helper to help him make his point
Right
Yeah
Yeah you agree? Okay go
He agrees everyone he agrees
I don't need a damn helper I'm kicking my phone right now
Alright let's get to the next topic
We spent a while on that topic let's get to the Super Bowl halftime shows
I'm gonna tell you my rankings for this
Okay
We're ranking the past couple Super Bowl halftime shows
I'm gonna tell you what we're ranking
We're ranking the Shakira one, the Weekend one, the Dr. Dre, Steve Dogg, Eminem one, the Rihanna one, and the Usher one
I'm gonna start off I'm gonna start off first
With Dead Last
With Dead Last I'm going Usher
Wait okay hold up I'm just have to say all of these performances were pretty good
Would you agree?
Usher was not good
To me Usher was not good
You don't think it was good?
Not even great just like good
You don't think it was a good performance?
It was a good performance if I'm 35 and older
Okay it was a good performance
What I'm trying to say is none of these five performances were trash
They weren't trash
Exactly so even the fifth best one is a pretty good show
Yeah like for example I mean I personally think Usher was better than Rune 5 but
Yeah I think most people would agree on that
But we're just ranking these past five good yeah
But to me I just personally didn't like the Usher one
I mean I knew some songs but I didn't know all of them but that's not listening to the Usher
Well why didn't you like it then?
I just felt like he could have done more if you know what I mean
He could have yeah I feel like he did a good bit though
His dancing was on point he brought up multiple guests
I felt like he did a good job with that
I feel like bringing in a little guest like he did what the past couple Super Bowl people had done
So I would give him that credit right there but to me Usher's last
Number two
Well I'll go with my last pick we'll go back and forth
Okay
So I'd go number five The Weeknd
I feel like he's not as big of a performer as these other people were
I don't feel like he's as widely known in every space as he is other people do
I think he put off a good show
I think COVID hurt him he didn't have the fan interaction that these other half time shows did
Because his half time show was done during COVID
They had what stick people in the crowd or whatever
It wasn't a great look just performance wise
So that's really the reasons why I put it as five
So
Me personally my number four is The Weeknd
Because I agree with all your points on that one
But also the COVID thing was a big thing
I did like all the songs the only problem was though
Was that for me
It was just so weird how he was doing it
And like how he was moving around and stuff
Yeah
And like he could have brought in like a guest or something
Well it was impacted because of COVID
They had lots of like regulations they had to work around because of COVID
So I don't think he was able to do a lot of the stuff that he wanted to do
Otherwise
I don't think so
And so that's what I personally think about
You know The Weeknd like being at number four
Because like he still has a good ass song so like
I still think that he's actually better than Usher though
So I can't really say The Weeknd that much
But I mean he's like I said even better than that Rune 5
We give a definite definite Rune 5 so
I'd say at number four I'd have Rihanna
I mean you gotta give her credit
She did it while pregnant
What?
Which is a huge thing to do
But to me like during the Super Bowl halftime show
I expect Rihanna to do more
I expect her to dance
I expect her to bring all the energy
And she didn't have a lot of energy
Now I understand why because she was pregnant
I wouldn't be able to do that while I was pregnant
That's for sure
She did good for a pregnant person
But for a Super Bowl halftime show
You are going to get us hate on this podcast
Hold on
She didn't bring the energy
And I understand why she didn't
But for a halftime show I need that energy
You disappointed me
Alright go ahead what's your thing?
You disappointed me
Number three is may come as a shocker
Dr. Dre, Snoop, Eminem, 50 Cent, Mary J Blige
I felt like before you were like
Evan why are you saying that?
Hear me out now
I felt like everybody's timing could have been a lot better
Also I do believe 50 Cent didn't need to be in there
Neither did Mary J Blige
But I mean I understand that was the pop at the time
It's all about rap culture for that show
That's why you got 50 Cent and there's Snoop, Dr. Dre, Kendrick
You know mixed with the new and the old
Also didn't like how like the timing of everybody was
How Eminem got a little bit of minutes
And then Snoop got more minutes than that
So that's why I didn't really personally like it
I felt like if they had an even amount of minutes
It would have been good
I mean Kendrick only performed a little bit
He didn't even perform much
So I saw a couple people whenever this was going on
They were like Kendrick only had like five minutes
You have any idea of this? You have any idea of that?
I mean but I really can't blame them
When you have a bunch of people like that just stuffed in a show
And you only have a certain amount of time to warm
I can't really blame you but like same kind of
You didn't really need that many people
Yeah I'd agree with you on a lot of points
I have actually that same halftime show as my number three
We have the same ranking for that one
I'd say yeah I agree with you
It was too crowded
I mean to a point they had too many guests on
Where not yeah people didn't have the same amount of time
Or people didn't have enough time
As well I felt like not everyone brought their best foot forward
I felt like Snoop did a good job
Dr. Dre did a good job
Mary J. Blige did a good job
Kendrick performed phenomenally
But I don't think Eminem was that great
And I didn't think 50 Cent was that great
Maybe if they cut out Eminem and 50 Cent
And increased the time with everyone else
It would have been better
Another thing is the halftime show was performed during the daytime
Which I understand they can't help it in Los Angeles
But I feel like it's just not as great of a look as a nighttime performance
It just there's better vibes at night than during the day
In that halftime show during the day
Which again they couldn't help but it doesn't help the ranking
Everyone hurts them in the ranking
So that's my opinion
Go ahead
My number two
My personal opinion on this
I feel like I love some ass shaking
I love some ass shaking
It's number two
It has the same effect as Usher but like
Shakira and J-Lo
I feel like they were a great combo
And I feel like both of them were playing songs that people did know
And so it was like you play a song that I know
And you play a song that everyone knows
That type of stuff
And I felt like that was a good combo
And they know how they were shaking their ass too
Like
Aw man
For my number two I gotta go
Probably Usher
I think he brought a good performance
I really do
And you know as he did nighttime which helped
Like I was making that point earlier
I think he brought a lot of energy to the performance
I think he brought out really good guest stars
When he brought out
What Lil Jon and Ludacris to go do yeah
That was a great moment
He brought out
I think anyone else he brought out
But it was a great performance
Yeah her slay
You didn't know who she was
So she popped up on that stage and you know what
Bro come on
Don't hate
I'm not racist come on
No I'm not coming to be racist
You just didn't know who she was
I knew who her was
You have no way to prove I didn't
Anyway
I think Usher brought a great performance
He brought all the energy that
The ones in the lower rankings didn't bring
I just overall thought
He had a great performance
He had bangers
He has some hits for people new now
He had a lot of hits
So my number one
It's obviously
Obviously Rihanna
The reason I like Rihanna
Fuck off
I'll tell you why
Go ahead tell me why
Tell me why
If you would shut the fuck up I absolutely will
I like Rihanna's voice
The voice was perfect
It didn't sound like much auto-tune was in there
I feel like she lip synced a little bit
I feel like it's pretty evident she lip synced
What the fuck is she damn fucking pregnant
She was fucking singing good
She was singing good
And it was fucking
It was actually pretty solid so
It was like an authentic performance
Do I agree she could have done a little bit more?
Absolutely
I believe she could have done a lot more
But just from the scene and the actual aspect of it
I felt like she did pretty good with that
But compared to the other ones
The Weeknd
He sounded like he still had a lot of auto-tune
Usher
The man was trying his hardest
Like he was sweating near the halftime show
Bro that energy, that's why
No
I'm gonna push back on this a little bit though
Let me ask you this
Well, okay, first of all, you had dudes humping the air
Do you remember that the dudes were humping the air?
That was funny
It was the funniest thing
If you actually remember it
They had one little platform of the halftime show
One of them just didn't know what the fuck they were doing
It was like the Katy Perry Sharp thing
Yeah, yeah
Okay, another thing up
Do you think she brought the right amount of energy for the halftime show?
I think leading up to it?
No
But when she actually performed
And a bunch of people were watching
But what do you mean leading up to it?
Because I'm not gonna lie to you
This was me though
I wasn't excited for Rihanna's performance at first
But whenever I actually watched it
I thought it was actually a Jean Mouin good performance
So you think she brought the energy?
I think she brought the energy I think at the very last moment
But think about it
It's like
She's not really a big name anymore
I mean she's still a big name, don't get twisted out
She's not
She doesn't have current hits
And that's what I'm referring to
Like if I'm Jay-Z and I'm doing the halftime show director
I'm like hey, how about I get Taylor Swift?
Do you know how many people will get ready for that year?
For like a long ass year
I think they'll bring Taylor Swift for next year's halftime show
Oh they absolutely will with all that fucking money she brings
Absolutely
That's the fucking money
And the Super Bowl ticket is going to go up too
Oh yeah, that's another thing
They want the money
So Super Bowl tickets with Taylor Swift before me
Sky high
$20,000 for the lesbian baby
They're already too high
And they're just going to get even higher
But yeah, like I was saying
So what's your argument? Why do you think she brought the energy?
Because I don't think she brought the energy
She was playing songs that people actually liked
That people actually liked
But it's just like
I feel like people just forgot about Rihanna
And so then once she was actually singing and stuff
I feel like she brought it
I mean did fucking people forget that she was pregnant?
Oh, of course
But I was looking at it at the singing aspect
That didn't really give a fuck if she was pregnant or not
I mean I just want to be half time show most of the time
Because I need something to sit through
Before I watch the game again
I want to be half time show absolutely as well
I don't think she brought the energy though
I don't think she
I think when she was singing
That's when she brought it
And that was like my opinion
That was the worst time to bring it because
You could
If you were a bigger name like we talked about
You would have that energy behind
So you think her singing brought the energy?
Because it was just natural in my opinion
It just sounded a lot more natural
But since she's not a big name
You don't really have that energy leading up to it
That's why I feel like she shocked a lot of people when she performed that
If you get what I'm saying
Shocked a lot of people?
Come on, she's been doing this for 20 years
She can sing
I know she can sing but I'm saying like
People as in like
People were thinking it's not going to be a good half time show type
So you know
It's her job, she can perform
She actually let me down
I thought it would be rather noise
Just because I didn't know she'd be pregnant during the half time show
Well I'm saying as in like
How do I say it
She practically
But like I said she's not a big name
Some people aren't really expected to be a good show
But not like
Not the greatest show
But not a bad show either
Just a good show
And that's what I think people are just beginning automatically
So like for example
I think Eminem and Mary J. Blige could
I think they could have done a lot better
That's what I personally think
Like Dr. Grahamell, they could have done better
I felt like they could have been more natural
I felt like they were trying to be natural
But like you know since it was in Los Angeles you know
Yeah, yeah
Usher
I felt like Usher was pretty natural
But since like
You're going into a new market now
Where not many people know Usher
It's like a big deal
I mean I think
Not many people know Usher
What do you mean not many people know Usher
Hold up, who do you know that doesn't know Usher
I can get my little cousin right now
And he probably doesn't know Usher
He probably doesn't know Rihanna either does he
He probably does not
Exactly, so what's your point
We need to fucking get people that are relevant
No, hold up
The Super Bowl halftime show performers
Or picked because
They appeal to the most people
You can't just have
People who popped off in the last five years
Because they wouldn't have the older audience
You gotta get people that
Older people know
And younger people know
Maybe not the youngest people know
But the largest number of people know
If you know what I mean
But I'm gonna say this though
I personally think that
Who I want to see for next year
He did a good ass job
Forming the
National anthem
Or does he post Malone
He did America the Beautiful
Not the National anthem
But I agree, I think Taylor Swift
And Post Malone would drive ratings
Through the roof
I think
If they can't get Taylor Swift
Because I know she was supposed to be at last year
With Rihanna
Well now that her boyfriend is fighting the NFL
He probably won't do it
She probably won't do it now but anyway
Look, hear me out
Taylor Swift, Post Malone
And then up here
It's by Lil Wayne
Just because it's in New Orleans
That would be epic
See it'd be weird for me
But I gotta see how they do it though
Because you gotta think, you got multiple different genres coming in
Yeah, well yeah
Obviously yeah
But but but but but but but but but but but but
I think though
The main factor in that
Is Posty because
You know, Posty can rap, Posty can sing
And he can sing country
Exactly, so that's why
I think he's been meshing back
Yeah, yeah
I think that would be my dream half time show for next year
Those three
Wrap me up, number one
For me, if you couldn't figure out
It was JLo and Shakira's half time show
You can be like that, ehhh
Well okay, calm down
They brought the high energy
And that's what I want in a half time show
I want the energy
And they brought it
Yes, ass shaking is a form of energy
My dear friend
But they just brought that energy
And that's what I loved about the half time show
The visuals were amazing
Shakira and JLo both played
Their hits, which people knew
And they sung pretty well
Oh, they sung amazing
Everything about that show is top tier
In my opinion
I mean, it's a great show
So, uh
I think we've done about
Enough for today's pod
Evan, what did you say?
I think we've done a bit too much of a pod
I need a nap
He's a bit lazy, everyone
I need me a nice little nap
He doesn't have that hard work ethic
I do have that hard work ethic
I just need a nice ass fucking nap
I enjoyed
This extra spicy pod episode
You enjoyed it
I did too
Very much so, banger
And we actually had more
Spicy takes than we did in the first episode too
We're gonna come out
With every single episode, spicy takes
You can bet on that
You heard it here first, baby
Extra spicy takes for the extra spicy pod
This has been Landon
Evan, signing out, baby
Adios