Hello everyone, my name is Landon and this is the Extra Spicy Pod.
Extra spicy because we're having all the extra spicy hot takes baby.
This is my friend over here, Evan.
Say what's up, Evan.
Hello, my name is Evan and today we've got a good list of topics for you.
This is our very first episode so since it is more likely going to be an introduction
episode.
Alright.
So let's get into the first topic.
How do we know each other and where are we from?
You want to start, man?
Yeah, I'll go first.
So we're just two, you know, twenty-something year olds from Louisiana hanging out, chilling
out, chilling, feeling, chilling and feeling.
We're both from Hammond.
We met each other in school, elementary school, and we went to high school together and now
we go to separate universities but we still hang out, we still chill, go to games together
and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
We still have fun.
I always come to BR to come see him.
I came to BR today to come see this man film this podcast for you amazing people.
So we can get this thing rolling, seeing what this is all about, what we can do, see what
this is all about, you know, just get into it.
Yeah, I mean this is the first time doing anything like this.
We had this idea like a couple weeks ago.
I think we were kind of thinking about before that too.
We just were texting back and forth, hey we should start a pod.
Yeah, a couple months later.
Hey, we should start a pod.
Yeah, a couple months later, you know what I mean?
We got into it whenever we just kept talking about sports and so we were just like, why
don't we just start a podcast?
We always talking about sports and then if we want to talk about anything outside of
sports, we can do that as well because that's like we have our little diverse things outside
of our lives and outside of sports.
So that would make this podcast a lot more interesting and we can just determine what
we want to do and what we want to talk about in like future episodes.
And if y'all like it, then like we can certainly give a talk about that.
Just hit me up if you have me on any social media or whatever about what would you like
to see next.
Hit up Lannan if you have Lannan Snapchat ability.
I don't know, but we will continue to keep this going on for I don't know how long.
We will keep this going for a while.
Yeah, we're going to try.
Like my friend Evan over here said, Coast and friend Evan, he said, you know, this podcast
isn't just going to be strictly sports.
We're going to delve into other aspects of our lives that we kind of want to touch on,
some pop culture moments that we think are significant, some other things we think are
pretty cool, pretty chill to talk about, you know, not just NBA NFL, but also some other
shit that we want to just get off our brains.
You know what I mean?
We may get into our personal lives sometimes if we really want to.
We may go into, hey, what, what food do we think is the best food in VR?
Like we're going to be getting into so many different topics.
I think every single one of you guys are going to end up liking this podcast because of how
unpredictable we are.
The unpredictability is the crazy thing about this.
That's the little extra in the little extra spicy pod.
You know what I'm saying?
But I think y'all will end up enjoying this podcast.
We will try to, we will also try to make this as funny as possible.
I know we are going to clown on each other.
I already know that we are going to clown on each other like a motherfucker.
Like he's going to get clowned on.
I'm going to get clowned on.
That's how it's going to go.
You got anything to say, Landon?
I mean, I mean, you know, podcasts and we have all these things, mainly sports.
Let's get, let's just get into sports stuff, you know, NBA teams, right Evan?
We each have different NBA teams, which are our favorite, which we like a lot.
Mine being the Miami Heat, the best team in the NBA.
Sorry, that's the fucking team on the planet.
Let me explain, let me explain.
The best team of all time, the Miami Heat, right Evan?
No, you're a fucking dope.
I know I'm not one to talk, but like out of all the teams you say is the greatest team
in NBA history, you say the Miami Heat, the fucking wrong.
All right, all right, all right.
I, I jest, I jest, but the Miami, why did it become a Miami Heat?
Because I'm not from Miami.
I'm not from Florida.
I don't really have many connections to the Miami Marist or Florida, but my first ever
NBA team I went to, my hometown team, the New Orleans Pelicans, I went to see the Pelicans
versus Heat and I just fell in love with the Heat from then on.
You know, Dwayne Wade was my ride or die.
I became a Heat fan this season after LeBron left, so I wasn't in the big three era.
I was in there right after that with Dwayne Wade and Josh Richardson and who was Hassan
Whiteside.
That was my starting era of Heat and then it just grew as Bam came into the league and
Tyler came into the league and my guy Jimmy Butler came into the Miami Heat and we're
hot right now with Jimmy Butler and then three of the past four Eastern Comics finals, two
of the past four finals.
We can't, you know, get over the hump and win the finals.
That's all right, man.
We, we got this thing, bro.
It's Heat culture, you know.
In NBA circles, people talk about Heat culture.
What is Heat culture?
Heat culture is overworking, overperforming, you know, doing all the intangibles.
We're going to outwork you.
You're going to put in work to beat us because we're not going to just fall over and die.
You know what I mean, Evan?
Well, you know what I got to say to that about that, about that Heat culture quote unquote?
If y'all were so hard working and everything, then wouldn't have y'all have won a championship
by now?
All of that.
We're not about to argue about Heat culture because everyone knows about Heat culture.
Oh my gosh, you won a championship for the Prawn and D-Wade.
But the team that is actually, I'll give you your credit here, that actually worked their
way up.
Like, like last year, how the Heat were the number eight seed and they made it all the
way to the finals just to get curb stomped by Nicole Jokic and the Denver Nuggets.
Like, so, but I mean, I, I, I get what you're saying.
Y'all, y'all won championships.
I'll give you this.
Your team has definitely at least won a championship, but I'm a ride or die.
I am part of the fan base that is called the New Orleans Pelicans, baby.
You want to know why?
Because ever since I was a little kid, I went to go see the New Orleans Hornets.
Me, my uncle, and my dad would always go to the games.
We'd either be in the roof, we'd either be in the nosebleeds or some, some games we'd
go lower bowl.
Sometime, whenever I was younger, I saw, I got to see the 09 Celtics with Chris, not
Chris Paul, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Rhonda.
I got to saw them.
We lost to them.
I got to see Tom Duncan, Tony, Tony Parker.
I got to see the Spurs.
And then I got to see, who else I get to see?
I get to see a young Paul George whenever he's on Indiana.
So that was a good experience.
Hold up, you're going there just for other players or you're going for their free on
team?
Come on.
No, I'm going for my team because I was supporting the Pelicans.
And at the time we had an amazing chance when we were the Hornets too.
We said defense, we say defense, defense, defense.
It's a nice little pun.
I know y'all don't have, y'all don't know what having fun is like over there, but we
had a little puns over there.
Hold up, hold up, hold up.
We're not going to argue about why teams are better than another.
We just can't introduce our teams.
You know, don't say we don't have fun in Miami because come on, nightclubs in Miami, the
nightlife in Miami.
You know we roll in every single night.
Yeah, the clubbing is fire in Miami.
I will say that, but the dick riding Miami is fucking massive too.
I can already tell you that just from hearing, oh, we worked so hard.
We worked so hard and get so far.
But we're getting off topic here.
We are getting very much off topic.
So I became a Pelicans fan mostly because they were mostly the underdogs at the time.
At the time when the Pelicans were coming up or the Hornets were coming up, people really
didn't have faith in them.
You know, we were like a bottom team damn near every year because our only good player
was Chris Paul, David West.
Like we only had, we had three all-stars one year, but I mean everyone kept getting hurt.
So like it's like this year now, but like we kind of are being smarter with it this
year than past years.
So and I still believe like people still, people are always going to sleep on us.
And so I want to be the type of fan even when I'm 90 years old and let's say we win the
chip somehow.
I don't care if it's Brawny James the third coming to help us win that championship.
When we win that championship, I get to be one of those few people to be like, I was
with this franchise since day one before we won anything, before we lost anything.
I get to be with that franchise and that means so much to me, to my younger self and just
as a person it is, it's dope.
So I asked you like what year, around what year did you first get into Pelicans Canada?
Around like 2008, 2009.
I was like eight or nine.
Like that was like the first time going to a game.
I still got a Trevor Rees of Jersey whenever he played for the Hornets.
That is how much of a fan I am.
I have an old ass Trevor Rees of Jersey.
For those who may not know, the New Orleans Pelicans used to be the New Orleans Hornets
back in the day and then they rebranded and changed their name and everything.
If people want to do get technical, we used to be the Jazz, then we used to be the Hornets,
now we're the Pelicans.
That's if you want to get really technical, but not many people actually know that though.
So that's a little bit of sports knowledge for you, for the amazing viewers of the Extra
Spicy Pod.
I mean we're not here to argue what team is better.
We're just here to say like this is my favorite team and I may have some biases because this
is my favorite team and I may be biased towards this team.
At the end of the day we both respect each other, we both respect each other's teams
right Evan?
We do.
I respect, I like Jimmy Butler.
I like Jimmy Butler at the end of the day.
I mean do I think he does some ho-ass shit to the Pelicans as recently?
Yeah.
But do I like him as a work ethic kind of guy?
Like his work ethic is phenomenal.
Just he does some bitch ass shit on the court though, but I mean that's also me being biased,
I can't really say that, but I like Jimmy Butler though.
And I like how all y'all actually come together towards the end.
Y'all don't do shit in the regular season, but when it's the post-season time y'all
come together.
Yeah, that's how he called you baby.
So since that said something nice about the Heat, what's something nice you guys say about
the Pelicans now?
I mean okay, the New Orleans Pelicans, they're my hometown team because I'm from New Orleans
so I've been at more Pelicans games than the Heat games.
You know, say whatever you want about that, but I have.
And I've got to know the players a good bit, just seeing them on the court.
I like B.I.
I like C.J.
I think C.J. is my favorite current New Orleans Pelicans player.
You know I like Jose Alvarado and Zion, the superstar that he is, the NBA media will say
whatever about him, but he does a lot for the community actually and he's a pretty cool
cat, not gonna lie.
Those Zion dunks, the Smoothie King Center goes crazy for those.
So yeah, those are my current Pelicans players and going to the Pelicans games over the years.
You know, I've become accustomed to the Pelicans fan culture, not that they have any, but if
you want to call a fan culture or whatever, but you know, just going to the games, having
a fun.
Yeah, I respect the Pelicans for that.
Always a good time at the Smoothie King Center watching those boys play.
I mean, not always.
Sometimes they get blown out.
That's not too fun, right Evan?
That is not fun, but I'm gonna tell you a saying before I go into this next topic and
it's something that the Pelicans fans will trademark.
Just walk around and find out, but okay, so that was my little saying, but we're gonna
go into this next topic here.
Who are your favorite players from your organization or franchise from either like currently or
past?
Right, so when you think about the Miami Heat, they were starting the 80s and obviously I
wasn't alive back then to watch the Miami Heat back then, but you got them old cats like
Alonzo Mourning, Tim Hardaway that really transitioned the 90s and then the 2000s.
03, we drafted Dwayne Wade, which is my favorite player of all time.
I fell in love with Dwayne Wade.
He's the main reason why I became a Heat fan.
Fell in love with Dwayne Wade and then LeBron and Bosch came there and run some championships,
so that's gonna be pretty cool.
Shaq was on the Heat too, baby.
Shaq and Orwaid won them a little championship as well.
And then I became a fan the year after LeBron left, so I wasn't really swept up in the LeBron
fandom.
I was more of the Dwayne Wade, who was it, Hassan Whiteside, Josh Richardson, the early
Josh Richardson days with the Miami Heat.
And then I really became like King of Jimmy Butler when he went to the Miami Heat.
I was not a big Jimmy Butler fan when he was in the Sixers.
I said he was my least favorite player in the league.
The funny thing is I was my favorite player in the league with the Miami Heat organization.
I think the culture that he brought in the work ethic and him, Tyler Hero, Ben Marabayo,
those are the three core guys that are key to my fandom right now.
I think they bring a lot to the court, both on and off the court really, to the Miami
area.
They do a lot for the community and they're funny, man.
That feels pretty funny, come on.
So let me give our viewers a little bit of insight.
The reason he didn't like Jimmy Butler at first was because he was on the Sixers.
He hates anything Philadelphia.
Okay, not everything Philadelphia, but most things Philadelphia.
I'm just anti-Philly for some reason.
What's one thing you like about Philly?
And it better be one thing I'm thinking of right now.
You know, that's a good question.
I got to ponder that for a good couple hours before I can think of anything.
I feel like the Philly cheesesteaks are good.
Nah, bro.
Those are overrated, man.
Overrated as hell.
Oh, you're going to get shit on.
If any Philadelphia viewers are listening to this, they're going to shit on you.
But if you're a Philadelphia viewer, I don't want you.
Get off my pie.
I'll take you in, don't worry.
So asking that question back to me about my favorite player and all this.
Since I was a young little Pelicans fan and I got to witness all these players.
Even Lil Evan over here.
I like Chris Paul.
I mean, I'm going to say I don't want to be like that guy in New Orleans that'll like
the Pelicans fan base to be like, oh, I like Chris Paul, Anthony Davis, Zion Williamson.
I do got some people.
If I were to have to say a good bit of people, I'd say I have some underrated ones too.
I got so much time.
I like the team we have now.
I like everyone on that team.
I don't want anybody to get traded, but whatever.
It's inevitable.
It's going to happen.
Yeah.
I mean, in order to win, we got to be able to do something.
I don't blame us, but I do like the team that we have now.
That whole team is amazing.
But like pass players, I like Chris Paul.
I want to say I liked Anthony Davis, but I liked Anthony Davis, but it was the way he
went out for me.
If he was just like, hey, I'd like a trade.
Thank y'all for giving me all your amazing memories and times and all that.
I would have been cool with that.
I would have loved that.
I would have just been happy with that because he's trying to win.
I don't blame him.
But when you go around the city of New Orleans wearing it, that's all folks.
That kind of triggers me a good bit because it's like, we gave you the love that no one
else gave you in the beginning.
I get it.
You were a number one recruit coming out of Kentucky.
You were the number one draft pick, but we still developed you.
We still gave you the love that no other organization is going to give you.
Look at the Lakers fans now.
They treat him like shit.
They want him one ring and they started treating him like shit.
In the context of that, every Lakers fan being like, oh man, we need a trade.
He getting hurt and all this.
Whatever, he'd get hurt over here.
Hey, it just happens.
We understand.
Y'all are professional sports.
Y'all put your bodies on the line.
So that's why I understand all the shit that's going on.
But that's why I'm not a big AD fan anymore.
When he was on the Pelicans, I loved the way he played.
He was dominating literally the game against the heat.
It was where they were wearing, this was the old vice city jerseys, the white ones too.
Those are nice.
He dropped like 47 and like 15, I think.
I don't remember the stat exactly, but he dropped a good bit and he would just post
it up doing everything.
That was the team with Drew Holiday.
That's another player I like too.
Drew Holiday is, I met Drew Holiday.
Drew Holiday, nice.
He a good ass dude, good to the community.
He's good at everything.
He's a good guy.
He's good to everyone.
He's in the Celtics, went in lots of games.
I hope he gets himself another ring.
I legit do.
That Bugsring, I was happy for him when he got that Bugsring.
Now that's a player that I was happy to see win because he didn't ask for a trade.
We traded him.
But I mean, I heard that he was asking for a trade, which I mean, he didn't do no extracurricular
bullshit like the left.
That's all folks.
So that's why I was happy, genuinely happy for him.
And then he still played the city of New Orleans after he won that ring.
Like he got on the little television.
He was like, this all wouldn't have been possible if New Orleans hadn't traded me.
So that made me feel good.
Another player I liked under the radar, Peja Stojakovic.
That motherfucker laid it up from three.
And I liked it.
But I wasn't around for that though.
I saw him go back, watch old film, do all this.
I like Peja.
Peja is cool.
But I liked Chris Paul because you know, it's Chris Paul.
Who wouldn't like Chris Paul?
Used to like AD.
Kind of.
AD is like in.
I liked the Curry Pelicans team.
So Zion, I liked CJ, I liked Brandon Ingram, I liked.
And then Peja Stojakovic.
And all that team.
That I generally liked.
All right.
I've got a question for you now.
So how about coaches?
Because we discussed players.
How about coaches?
Past and former.
What are your favorite coaches in your organization history?
Alvin Gentry was a good coach.
Before you're like, Evan.
No the fuck he was not.
Let me explain.
He was a good coach because if Marcus Cousins was healthy, like AD said, if Marcus Cousins
was healthy that season with the little Achilles injury, we would have even gone to state.
Because AD said it's true.
The mismatches for going to state would have been terrible compared to going to state.
I mean yeah, we would have gotten fucked up on guard play because Drew Holliday has got
to guard step and then I think Tim Frazier or somebody else had to guard like play.
But the bigs though, they would have gotten messed up with the bigs.
But Alvin Gentry made it to where, okay, whenever we had AD and Marcus Cousins, he would have
one of them in the paint, but one of them on the outside of the paint.
So that way they wouldn't clog up the paint if you know what I'm saying.
You even make it like a skyscraper type of defense if you know what I'm saying.
So that is why I like Alvin Gentry.
I like Willie Green too.
Willie Green is cool.
But the thing about Willie Green is he doesn't know when to play guys.
Like that Pacers game, not the one where we won, the Pacers game a couple days ago where
we lost.
We were catching key.
It's just we got to, he has to know the right adjustments.
You take out Jonas Malan to this nine and serves cooking and he just put Zion at the
center.
So I'm just like, okay, does he even know what he's doing as in like rotations and everything?
So that's the questionable part about Willie Green.
In my heart, I'm kind of scared if I give Willie Green another season.
But at the same time though, personally though, I think he's a better young coach too.
He gives them everything they need as a younger coach.
So I already know what, what, what two, what one of the two coaches are you going to say?
Okay.
First of all, you've got to give Pat Riley the highest credit of all time.
He's the Godfather.
He's the GOAT.
Pat Riley is the best coach.
Like one of the top three coaches ever, I think.
And what he did with Miami, he's in the front office now, but he won that 06 championship
with Shaq and Dwayne Wade.
He took over for Van Gundy or whatever.
And Van Gundy was a good coach, but Shaq didn't like him.
So he had to go.
Pat came in and I mean, come on, Pat's so good now.
He won championships to the Lakers before then as well.
But what he's done with this heat organization since he came in, he's turned it into a top
tier organization.
And then come on, he has Spell, Eric Spell, Coach Spell is amazing.
He is top two coach in the NBA right now.
Arguably one or two, but I would argue one.
I know some people might argue lower, but I would argue one.
He's took this team to the finals twice now in the past four seasons with not much top
tier talent.
He consistently takes guys who are undrafted, lower drafted guys and makes them household
names that they go to the finals with.
Duncan Robinson, undrafted guy, household name now.
You know, you got Kayla Martin, you go Kendrick Nunn a few years ago.
You can get Gabe Vinson in there.
I mean, just the way he coaches these guys, he turns these people who many people think
aren't going to do anything in the NBA and they're one of the top players on one of the
top teams in the NBA, consistently making it back to the conference finals.
You got her to give him the credit, right Evan?
I would give Pat Riley his credit because if you have HBO Max, there's a show called
Winning Time and all the current players don't like it because they say it's not the actual
depiction, but some people say it's a pretty close depiction.
Pat Riley's in there.
It was whenever Jerry West was first the coach, but then he was like, I'm not coaching this
team because they drafted Magic Johnson.
So they got some dude out of college.
He got hurt or something.
I don't know how to explain it.
I don't know how to explain the whole coaching order, but it ended up with Pat Riley having
to coach, you know, Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
And it was a good show.
It still is a good show.
I will give Pat that he is top three.
I would not give him two or one because we already know who number one is and number
two.
We got Phil Jackson number one.
You got to give Phil Jackson number one.
And then number two, you got to give Greg Popovich.
You got an all time winning coach right there.
How about Spoh now?
How about Coach Spoh?
Currently, I'll give Coach Spoh.
See, the thing about the coaches nowadays though, is that there's not really a top like
whatever coach currently because think about it, you got currently new coaches now.
So I'll give Coach Spoh.
He's like number one, number two, but that's awesome because look at what they got.
Okay.
If you want to give Steve Kerr his credit, I guess, but I'm going to make the argument
of we'll look at the lineup he had when you had KD, Draymond, Seth Clay, all that.
He makes some good adjustments at the time, but the warriors this season with how they
actually have to play, it just shows more and more of what Steve Kerr has to do.
Now I give Coach Spoh his credit because like I said earlier in the pod, they were the best
player in the AC.
They had to go through the playing tournament, made it all the way to the finals, but I mean
y'all couldn't do nothing with Jokic anyway.
I mean I don't blame y'all because like it's hard beating Jokic.
So that's a very tough road to beat.
And I do think that Spoh is like one or two.
I'm going to actually put Poppet number one, even though he has nothing to work with except
for Wimby.
Spoh number two, either Spoh number two or I'm going to put the Boston coach, Joe Muzalato
or whatever his last name is.
I can't pronounce that name, but Joe or whatever his name is, I put him at number three.
That's my current listing right now.
But that's also like I said, that's also because every coach is currently young.
Like I'm not going to put Nick Nurse over Spoh.
You could be like, I could be like, oh, but Nick Nurse has a ring, but like I mean so
with Spoh probably.
Does he have a ring?
He has three, yeah.
He has three.
Okay, just making sure.
I did two.
Yeah, he won two as a head coach.
Yeah, just making sure.
I'm not going to put Nick Nurse be like, oh, but Nick Nurse had to deal with this.
He had to deal with the Warriors.
He wanted to ring with Kawhi and all that.
That Warriors team, they didn't have KD now.
They didn't have KD.
They lost to Marcus Cousins.
They lost play too, but I just think that lowered the playing field a little bit because
I mean you couldn't really do anything about Kawhi, but the rest of that was just guard
play at that point.
So not much you could say about that.
All right, all right.
Well, I'm glad you could give Coach Spoh his flowers because I was totally expecting you
to be like, no, he's a garbage coach.
He's like bottom half of the league, bottom five, just because you're hating on the heat,
hating on my team, you know what I mean?
But the thing about that though is like if you were keeping up with the NBA currently,
you can see like the competition's gotten better.
The one coach that I would say is a damn good coach, but just couldn't get the job done
is Monty Williams.
Even though he's on Detroit right now and I can't blame Monty Williams because if they
do fire Monty Williams, that's not a him thing.
Yeah, that's a whole other topic to delve into.
That's the Detroit thing.
If y'all kept killing Hayes for three years, that's a y'all problem.
That's a Detroit business problem, but that's a subject for another time.
All right, so Evan, I have to ask, who is the best team in the NBA?
I think it's the Boston Celtics by far.
They have by far the most wins.
They have the best home record in the league.
It's got to be the Boston Celtics.
Say whatever you want about the Celtics.
Come play off team time because I think Miami here going to beat them, but that's another
story.
But this regular season, the Boston Celtics have been kicking some ass.
Come on, Evan.
So I'm going to deep dive into both conferences real quick.
I think Boston's number one in the east, of course.
It's like an obvious pick.
Boston is a good pick.
I feel like if you get the right pieces for Boston, or depending on a certain team, it
depends on the team.
I feel like New York has a little bit of games that could beat them, but not beating them
in their seven game series.
That'd just be me on some type of dope right now.
Yeah, let's go through it.
So who do we think the Celtics could lose to in a seven game series?
Were they losing to the Cavs?
I think they could lose to the Cavs, yes.
You think they could lose to the Cavs, really?
I don't think the Cavs could.
I will tell you why the Cavs.
The Cavs got so much depth in their roster that that's the key factor in all these teams
is that if you have a good bench, you're winning games for sure.
Yeah, I can see that.
What about the Knicks you just went over?
See the Knicks are tough, but the thing about the Knicks is though, is that they got to
stay healthy.
If Julius Randall comes back healthy, Mitchell Robinson comes back healthy, all these key
players that come back healthy, then we could see, who knows, maybe because the matches
are going to be there.
You're going to have your holiday on Daniel Brunson, you're going to have Julius Randall
on who's the power forward for the Celtics.
I don't know what.
Perseus?
No, he's place center.
What?
I'll go for probably.
Yeah, I'll go for it.
But the matches are going to be there and you're going to have nobody for Jason Tatum,
so that's going to be a good series to watch.
It depends on what they say.
Healthy though.
I feel like the Knicks will play the South just close, but I don't see them winning against
the South.
I don't see them winning against the South.
What about the Sixers?
The Sixers?
Nah, the Sixers will not get to the conference finals.
Playoff choker Joel Labide out there at the 76ers making a fool out of himself every playoff
round.
Come on now.
I will give the Sixers their credit.
They have been winning games without a lead though.
I will give them their credit.
They lost to the Boston Stubblets last year in the playoffs when the Celtics were a worse
team.
Now they're a better team.
You think they're going to win it?
The thing is with this, I don't think they're going to win it.
I'm just giving them croft croft because they lose their best player and they beat.
They're still like the number 5th seed.
They're still up there.
So to keep yourself from out of playing contention to beat at the number 5th seed, that's still
impressive.
Not to do anything in the playoffs they need them beat.
They're not going to do anything without them beat, right?
But the thing is though, the organizations can just look at that at the end of the day
and be like, okay, what do we need to do to win?
We make the playoffs.
What do we need to do to boost us out of the first round, the second round, whatever?
What do you think Boston did after y'all beat them in the conference finals?
They went and got Prisingas.
They went and got Joe Holliday.
Exactly.
So that way whenever let's just say y'all magically do end up facing them again in the
conference finals, somehow they're going to be like, okay, we're ready for this.
BAM got nothing on KP.
Drew Holliday going to lock up some stuff.
It's a different ballgame.
But I won't give Philly the credit that they do manage to stay in the playoff rankings.
Now I do think Boston is number one though.
Boston always reigns supreme.
Now as in like who could possibly beat them in the play-in tournament?
Wait, what about the Bucs now?
You think the Bucs will beat the Celtics in the semigame series?
I think the Bucs are too wishy washy.
They're head coach.
Let's laugh at that.
River's a little vague.
Come on.
We're going to talk about that later on.
But I do think Doc's not a good coach.
The only reason he's got that one ring is because of the super team of Paul Pierce,
Kevin Garnett, Rondo, Ray Allen, you know, all of them.
That's what I personally think.
I do think there's some circumstances though that he, from his past teams, that he shouldn't
have gotten fired for.
But oh well, this is a business.
You got to be a bitch at it well.
But I don't think Milwaukee can pull it off because everyone's got to be consistent.
Yeah, Damon Giannis, they haven't looked like the best fit for some reason.
Something's not jelly between the coaches and the Damon Giannis.
They've got to get better at their, you know, the pick and roll game with Damon Giannis.
They're not at that upper echelon level right now.
See to me, the thing about the Bucs though is that I feel like it's become more Giannis's
team, like how LA is like that with LeBron, I feel like it's more Giannis now.
Of course, of course.
Because, nah, because I feel like it's more, okay, since you won us this chip now, you
can kind of do what you want.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
You brought us over here for a chip.
You can have say so, do whatever you want.
That's what I personally think that people are, or that the Milwaukee Bucs are doing.
All right, all right, come on.
Miami Heat, you know I had to go there.
Three out of the past four years, we faced each other in the conference finals.
We won twice, Boston won once.
Seven game series, two years in a row now.
Like what you thinking Evan?
What you thinking?
If the playoffs ended today, y'all would face the 76ers.
Which we're beating.
But if that, but let's just say that's if they, I'd have y'all beating them if the playoffs
ended today.
But if let's just say the actual playoff time comes, okay?
And they get Joelle and B back.
That's going to be a tough game.
We beat B in the playoffs before.
Come on man.
It's going to be a tougher game.
I feel like B's going to come back with vengeance.
He's going to prove why he got that first MVP.
I think this time, y'all beat Boston first round.
But I feel like y'all losing the second round though.
Like y'all do good, but when it, like y'all going to beat y'all's first team.
I'm going to give y'all that.
Jimmy's going to ball out, Jimmy's going to do whatever.
But that second team y'all face, there are going to be some hungry dogs now.
So you predict us making the second round, but not the conference finals?
Not the conference finals.
All right, all right.
Who do you think is the Eastern Conference Finals team to the East?
I mean, my pick is going to be South X Heap.
Round three, three straight seasons.
I think that's going to be how it is.
So that's my dream matchup actually.
I think that would be so cool.
Go ahead, go ahead.
So looking at this, okay?
Looking at this little standings right now, it's the playoffs of the day.
Who would have the easier path?
So Cleveland would have to face Indiana.
I like Tyrese Halliburton.
I like Tyrese Halliburton as a player.
I don't like many players from different teams.
Tyrese is one of them.
I just want him to go off and play.
He's a good point guard for that team.
Who knows?
Indiana may upset Cleveland because of the star power they have on Cleveland.
Hold up, we don't know how this thing is going to finish off.
So who's just the better team?
That's what I'm just saying, if they were to end the day.
But in this scenario, all star power, I got Cleveland.
Milwaukee, I think Milwaukee should be lower.
I don't know how they're winning games, but I think they should be lower.
The Orlando Magic can sneak their way in there somehow.
I don't know how they're going to win the games.
I need to watch the Orlando Magic film.
I like the little theme song too.
Orlando Magic.
It's not be cringe now.
Orlando Magic.
But Magic can sneak their way in there.
I feel like Philly is going to fall at some point.
I feel like they're going to have a tough set of pro games.
We're scheduled up ahead and they're just going to shit down to the playing.
New York's going to stay in there no matter what.
They're going to stay in their little comfy little spot.
And that's what I believe for the East.
For the West?
Hope, so what's your official comments on this matchup then?
Oh, my bad.
I feel like it's going to be Boston.
I feel like Cleveland's going to get upset.
So I don't know how.
I mean, they lost to New York last season.
So I think it's going to be Boston and somehow, some way, Doc Rivers is going to get to the
conference finals.
Oh, yeah.
In blood with three-one lead in the conference finals.
That's how it's going to be.
Yes, sir.
So now for the Western Conference.
And serve the Western Conference.
Who do you think is going to win for the Western Conference?
Ooh, OK.
For me, it goes Denver Nuggets, number one.
And that's just because they proved that they can do it last year.
They won the championship.
The teams on top of them, Minnesota, Elk Grove City, they haven't proven anything.
Yeah, they played great regular seasons, but they really haven't proven anything come playoff
time.
And you need that to be in serious contention.
And look in people's eyes, who's going to win the championship?
You know, they're not going to take a team seriously who hasn't been there before.
So in my eyes, the Denver Nuggets, obviously number one.
I think Sneaky Pick, the Clippers, are going to be up there as well.
I think James Harden and Kawhi and Paul George really gel together really well.
I think the pairings started off kind of rocky, but since then, they've been a really good
team.
I think Phoenix is either way.
I think they're going to do really good or they're going to fall off a cliff.
I don't think there's any in between.
They're just going to do great or terrible.
You know, with KD and I don't even know Bradley Buehl keeps getting injured.
I mean, I don't even know how that's going to go.
But with KD and Booker, you got two superstars out there that they can propel that team to
great things.
So I think Dallas, Luca and Kyrie, but they don't really have that much around them to
really do well in the playoffs.
I don't think Sacramento is going to do amazing.
I think they're going to flame out.
I think the Warriors and Lakers aren't serious contenders.
I think they're pretenders.
Come on, dog.
Notice I left out the Pelicans up there in the stands as well.
The Pelicans are, they're an unknown to me.
I really don't know how it's going to go.
I think it can go one or two ways.
They can play really well with CJ, BI, Zion, but then they can also play really bad, just
look like complete horse shit and be terrible.
It's a question mark to me, dog, that I'm doing with the Pelicans.
I think my conference finals prediction as of right now is the Denver Nuggets and the
Los Angeles Clippers.
You know, if the Clippers win that championship moving into the new arena, they're going to
win a lot of fans over in LA because they're going to be the most recent champion.
They're going to have their own really cool arena.
Dog, that arena looks pretty cool.
Come on, man.
The wall, the giant wall.
I want to go to that Clipper game just to sit on the wall.
But I heard you got to be a Clipper fan.
Yeah, you got to be a Clipper fan.
That's what I don't like about that.
You can't wear any opposing team jersey, but I mean, that's a dumb rule though, because
a fan is a fan.
I don't think the NBA going to let that stick, but I don't know how they're going to force
that to be honest.
The Clippers though, moving into a new arena, if they win the championship, that's going
to be huge for their fandom.
So, Western Conference, Nuggets, Clippers, I say.
What do you think, Evan?
I think Minnesota's full of frauds.
Knock out Minnesota.
You know that's for, yeah, Kat, Levi.
I like Anthony Edwards a lot.
I just think the big play, like, Carl Y. Dean, Tabs, Rudy Gobert, one of them, they cut me.
You know that's right.
So, Kat's soft, Rudy Gobert is soft.
Come on.
The thing I like about the West, no one is safe.
Everyone's on top of each other this year, and I like it.
As a Pelicans fan, I hate it.
As a basketball fan, I love it.
West is very competitive this year, especially.
It's really exciting.
The West playoffs are going to be a bloodbath, and great to watch as a fan.
See, I want to say this though.
For this current matchup, I'm going to say OKC and the Clippers.
I think Denver is not as strong as they were last year.
They got Bruce E. B. They lost him.
I think that Denver Nuggets rookie, I think his name is Peyton Watson.
He's been pretty good so far.
I know that I don't see Denver going far.
I feel like Denver is going to choke some way somehow.
Bro, I disagree.
I mean, they have Nicola Jokic.
They have, with the healthy Jamal Murray, I think they can go as far as Jamal Murray
wants them to.
Yo can just always get given that stuff, but when Jamal Murray is on, he's on.
When he's off, he's off.
You know?
But I'm going to say this though.
It depends on the path of these teams.
Like for example, as a Pelicans fan, I either want to be the three seed or be the six seed.
Because if I'm the six seed, then I'm facing either going state or Dallas.
Get me the easy way out.
I don't want to face, I mean, we can beat the Clippers.
It's going to be very rough to beat the Clippers.
A game seven against the Clippers, don't ask me for betting advice.
Don't ask me for your fan duel.
I'm a, I ain't going to be betting on that game either.
But I think it just really depends on the route.
So OKC, I like, I hate OKC with a passion, but I will give them their credit.
They actually are doing something this season.
So wait, wait, why do you hate OKC?
Hold, just something quick.
What is it?
So the reason I hate OKC is because I was at the playing game last year and you know,
they kind of knocked us out.
But I mean, they're not like, if I had a list of teams, I hate OKC would be like three or
four.
They wouldn't be my most hated, but like they'd be like three or four.
Nothing, nothing too big, nothing too small.
All right.
I'd love to delve into that further in another podcast.
Like our most hated teams, you know, I'd be blow jobbing too, but let's look at the
things more.
I mean, we were talking about the Western Conference here.
You got, you know, as of right now, Sunday, March 30 got Timberlake's first second being
the thunder, the Nuggets Clippers Pelicans, sons, Kings Mavericks, Warriors Lakers.
And then the rest things don't really matter that much.
Right?
Yeah, they don't matter.
So then for the East, you got Boston, Cleveland, Milwaukee, New York, Philly, Miami, Orlando,
Indiana, Chicago and Atlanta.
I just can't wait to see how the playoffs are going to go in general.
Like that's what I'm going to love.
Do you think everyone in the Western Conference play our picture as of now or making the playoffs?
Or do you think someone's going to follow the playoffs slash play it?
All that, you know, would I like that happen?
I mean, no, what do you think will happen?
I feel like the West is kind of set as far as the playoff teams are going to get in.
Well, like I don't see Utah making it.
I don't see Houston making it in.
I feel like the teams are kind of set as far as where they are.
I feel like they are set, but I feel like they're set as of now.
They are set.
But what I would like to see happen as a personal biased as Pelicans fan.
Yeah, yeah.
I'd like to see the Clippers go down.
I don't want to face the Clippers.
What did the playoffs period not have a playoff, but like I'm not talking about where they
are in the actual standing, just if they're going to make the playoffs.
I feel like we have some unwritten beef with Phoenix.
I would love to face Phoenix.
We need Phoenix.
I don't want to face Paul Edwards, Kawhi, Leonard, James Harden, all of them boys.
That's a scary matchup.
I don't want that.
But for a shocker, as much as I don't believe in this team and when they play against us,
I do believe Sacramento is going to steal that final spot.
It depends on how that whole team plays though, and if no one gets hurt.
I believe that Phoenix will be in the playing.
Will they make it out of the playing?
Of course, it's Phoenix.
But will they have to face the likes of Adalice or something?
You bet your ass they will.
I feel like the playoffs as of right now, they're kind of sad as far as who the teams
are in the West.
Now in the East, I think it's a little more questionable because you got Celtics 1, Cavs
2, followed by Bucks, Knicks, Sixers, Heat, Magic, Pacers, Bulls, Hawks.
The Hawks are kind of, they're trending downwards right now.
I don't know if they're even going to make the play-in.
I think that Brooklyn might make the play-in or the Raptors might make the play-in.
The Raptors are playing better as of right now than they were earlier in the season.
I predict the Hawks to fall out, maybe even the Bulls fall out.
And I want to read the Brooklyn or Toronto to make the play-in.
As far as them getting out of the play-in, I don't think any of those play-in teams,
save for maybe the Magic, get out of the play-in.
I think that's a good question.
I think that is something we will need to talk about in our next podcast, our most hated
teams.
Yeah, we can do that.
You know what I mean?
We can talk about the teams that we like, the teams we dislike, teams we have rivalries
with, who we are, our personal biases.
Because that plays a lot into what we think as sports fans, our personal biases.
What you did?
What you did, bro?
I didn't do anything.
Hold up, what you did, man?
I just moved the camera.
All right, everything's good, bro.
Everything's good.
We coached you.
We good.
We Gucci.
All right, well, let's get into our next topic over here.
Doc Rivers, bro.
Doc Rivers is the funniest coach in the NBA.
For one, he doesn't stop blowing 3-1 leads.
It is hilarious.
He's blown, I mean, okay, it's not he's blown hundreds of them.
He's blown like three or four maybe, but it's still funny that he's blown the most in NBA
history.
It's the same coach, different teams, but the same outcome.
He just doesn't stop blowing 3-1 leads.
He went to the Bucs this year.
My man, he is taking that team.
So I will say I will give props to Doc Rivers for giving his All-Star check to Adrian Griffin,
the other coach of them, former coach of the Milwaukee Bucs.
First of all, he should not have been the All-Star coach.
He just got to the team.
How can you, as the NBA, step in, have another coach, coach that team?
Either J.B. Baker Staff wouldn't be a good one, or Jumaan Mosley in Orlando would be
a good pick.
Or the Boston coach would be good.
He did it last year.
I don't think he did it in consecutive years.
I think it just goes off of best record, I think.
That's the thing.
Either best record or if I'm thinking of Team USA, I think for Team USA, I'm thinking of
who wins the NBA championship as the coach.
No, how it does for the All-Star game.
So whichever conference is the, so whichever number one seed in each conference.
But because Boston South Dicks head coach Joe Masula did it last season, he can't do
it again the following season.
You can't do it consecutive years.
So that's why he went to the second place.
Milwaukee Bucs had the time, were in second place.
And who knew they just got a new coach who hasn't been there for the previous, however
many games.
He just got there.
I was like, what?
I coached the All-Star game, now what?
I won't give him his credit for giving this check to Adrian Griffin, but Doc Rivers is
a sorry coach.
As a man that has watched this man, he had so many opportunities to get to the finals.
He was like right there one year.
He was in the conference finals one year.
I think he was with Philly or either with Philly or...
Philly hasn't gone to the conference finals in a long time.
I think no.
I don't know if he was with Philly, whatever they were in the conference finals, I don't
know.
I think you're thinking of Clippers maybe, his Clippers days.
I don't know if it's Clippers either because Clippers didn't make it far either.
No.
Someone, whatever team he coached, they were in the conference finals and he showed it.
That's all I remember.
But Doc Rivers is not the greatest head coach in the world.
Whenever I saw JJ Reddick go after him on Twitter and stuff and everyone going after
JJ Reddick and then Patrick Beverly going and doing all this and all that, I'm just
like this man, y'all are arguing about a coach that hasn't even won y'all a ring.
I don't know why Patrick Beverly talking, JJ Reddick talking, but they haven't won
him a ring.
We can say he's not a good coach, but I would argue he's not a good man.
As a man, you have to stand up for yourself and you don't put your problems on other people.
He's done this for a few teams now.
Back when he was in Philadelphia with the whole Ben Simmons fiasco, he put Ben Simmons
under the bus.
That's what kind of kickstarted Ben Simmons' little issues in him not wanting to play for
Philadelphia and everything.
He destroyed Ben Simmons and he was their head coach of the Philadelphia 76ers.
Come on, you can't do that as a head coach to put down on your guys like that.
I will say this though.
I will say that Ben Simmons did deserve all that.
Not the so much attack from Billy fans because of the one play he messed up on, but at the
same time though, every NBA team just exploited him.
He can't shoot.
So what are we going to do?
We're going to clog the lane.
That way it's harder for you to shoot.
Hope, we're not going to argue whether Ben Simmons is a good player.
What I'm saying is if you're Doc Rivers, you can't shit on your player like that.
Say I can't win a championship with this guy.
Come on.
I agree with that, but at the same time though, you can do something about that.
If I'm the head coach, I can do something about that.
Do I believe that... Because what they said about Ben Simmons coming out of college was
his work ethic wasn't there, all this stuff.
I can see it now.
They were true.
But, Doc Rivers also needs to understand, he's worked with these great legends that
were actually putting in the hard work and all that.
He could have taken a better approach to it, I won't say that, but do I think Doc Rivers
could have been hell of a lot better at it?
Absolutely.
Saying to the NBA media, I cannot win a championship with this guy.
What's that going to do to a man's confidence?
If you're the head coach of the team and you say, I can't win a championship with this
dude, that's going to shoot his confidence down through the roof.
He's going to be so low on himself as a person.
My coach doesn't have any confidence in me to be a good player.
What does that say about Doc Rivers?
He constantly puts down on his players like that.
But here's the thing about these amazing situations.
It's whenever you have something bad to you, it's how you turn around and make things
better.
We're going to take the 2019 Bucks for example, when they lost to the Raptors.
How everyone was like, oh my gosh, they're going to win, they're going to beat Kawhi,
and Kawhi actually beat them and made it to the finals.
Everyone that year was like, oh, Yanis can't shoot.
They did the same thing they did to Ben Simmons.
They just clawed the lane.
Yanis ain't going butt, but the thing Yanis did was though, he actually got better shooting.
He actually put in the effort for it.
I could see what Doc Rivers was trying to do, but at the same time though, just to completely
throw him under the bus.
I don't understand if you throw an arm under the bus, but to throw the whole man under
the bus, that's kind of best felt.
Yeah, I mean, you're focusing on the player a lot, I'm focusing more on the coach.
Mike Bordenhauser didn't put Yanis under the bus.
Oh, he can't shoot Fritos.
Oh, he has to be better.
He's the better post player.
He's got to go at it more.
He didn't do that.
Mike Bordenhauser did not do that.
Doc Rivers, he's going to put everyone under the bus.
He could have put LeBron under the bus if he was LeBron's coach.
You know that's true.
Come on.
I do believe though that, I do believe that he will end up actually, I feel like he may
get another opportunity in coaching.
He's going to.
NBA teams are going to be dumb enough to say, this guy can coach.
He's coached teams before.
This guy gets regular season wins.
I want him as my head coach.
Now see, if the Pelicans ever fire Willie Green, I do not want him.
Doc Rivers, number one coaching hire right now.
How are you going to react?
I will be throwing shit around the room.
I will be so pissed off.
I will watch Kelly with his basketball even when we tap off because I already know what
to expect.
See, I've gone through so many coaches.
I went through Jeff, I went through Stane Vanigundi when he was in New Orleans with
Lonzo.
I ain't like that whatsoever because we were sucking.
He was there just one year in Zion's rookie year.
Nice little two years.
He was there before Zion and then after Zion's rookie year and then we got rid of that finally.
But I do think, I feel like if you give Doc Rivers the right pieces, of course, I feel
like I'd choose a Steve Kerr, a glorified Steve Kerr.
Except the difference between Steve Kerr and Doc Rivers is whenever it's in times where
it shows the difference between both of them, when push comes to shove, Steve Kerr can actually
be like, okay, let's actually do this now.
And the year that the Celtics were playing the Warriors in the finals, did any of us
think the Warriors were even going to make it there?
Nope.
I'm not sure as hell they didn't.
That's why I think that Steve Kerr is better than Doc Rivers and Doc Rivers needs to actually
be better overall.
That's what I personally think.
I think anyone will agree with you that Steve Kerr is better than Doc Rivers.
I think that's a foregone conclusion.
I mean this man, Doc Rivers, he was with the Magic and couldn't win.
He was with the Celtics and won a championship with Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce and Ray
Allen.
So he had a lot of pieces that helped him win that championship.
I will say this though.
If they didn't lose that one year, I mean Kobe would have four, but if they didn't
fuck up that one year, he'd have two.
That's all I gotta say.
But you know, Doc Rivers would be fucking up sometimes.
Well, okay.
And then he went to the Clippers and he had Chris Paul and he had who else was on that
team?
Blake Griffin.
He fucked up one of the most exciting teams in NBA history.
No for real.
That team was so exciting and they just couldn't do anything in the playoffs.
I mean I understand why though, because like really the shooting aspect wasn't there.
Because it was like Hackishack, but in modern day NBA, you gotta think.
DeAndre Jordan couldn't hit shit.
So it was practically Hackishack, but with DeAndre Jordan.
But at the same time though, they did play like some of those teams they should have
beaten though.
Like Utah, like with Gordon Hayward at the time, Rudy Gobert.
They should have beaten them boys.
But you know, he blew that 3-1 lead.
I don't know if it's Utah or Jazz, but he blew a 3-1 lead too.
I think he blew two 3-1 leads in the Clippers and I don't know, Doc Rivers and then he
went and joined the Sixers after he got fired from the Clippers.
And he did a whole fiasco with Ben Simmons through Ben Simmons under the bus.
And then he got James Harden and that didn't work out because James Harden decided, hey
I don't want to play anymore.
James Harden does that from time to time.
Whatever you want to make out of that, James Harden is kind of a wish you watched you player
when he wants to be.
He couldn't get it done with the Sixers, moved on to the Bucs now and now he's one of the
Bucs players under the bus.
Hey these players want to be in Cancun right now.
I can't coach these players.
They want to be in Cancun.
That's your job is to get them ready to play.
Your job is to get them out of that Cancun mindset.
But I do like, in all honesty, when certain players, I do like Jeff Teague's podcast.
Jeff Teague has an amazing podcast.
I like how he's so honest and for example whenever he was asked the question, what would
you rather do?
Would you rather win a championship or have a max contract?
He was like, shit give me that max contract every day of the week.
I get to party one day with a championship max contract and I'm set for life.
And he's got a solid point but same time in this scenario though, Doc Rivers has set all
throughout, I don't think Doc Rivers just cares anymore.
Think about it, if he gets fired again, where is he going back to?
He's going back to ESPN.
Nope, he's going to get another job.
He's going to get another NBA job.
Come on.
We all know that.
We all know these teams that are in the bottom say, you know what, I think Doc Rivers can
turn us around.
And to his credit, he gets a lot of regular season wins.
He just can't produce in the playoffs.
But whenever he does get fired before teams decide to give him a chance, he's automatically
going to go to ESPN.
He's going to go get his job back, like he always does when he gets fired, wait for a
team to give him a chance.
That team is going to give him a chance, he's going to go over there, fuck up and then come
back.
Same cycle over and over again.
Okay, another little tangent, he was a terrible broadcaster.
God, I hated listening to his voice in the broadcast.
He was a terrible broadcaster to the fullest extent of the world.
He sucked.
Like, I couldn't stand listening to him.
Whenever he would broadcast on the Pelicans games, I damn near wanted to put my volume
on mute.
Yeah, put that shit on mute.
All right, so with the NBA season, regular season coming to an end, we got to take a
look at everyone's favorite yearly traditions is the rookie of the year.
Everyone loves the rookie of the year.
And so we're going to talk about Wimby.
Do you think Wimby will be the best player in the future?
I think that he's without a doubt the best player, the best rookie right now, without
a doubt.
I don't think that's even close.
I think most people will tell you it's Wimby.
Now the best player look in the future.
I think it's an argument that can be made.
He's going to be the new face of the league.
Braun, he's not that far off from retiring.
He's got a couple of years left, Max.
Steph's up there in age two.
I think he's going to start declining in the next couple of years.
So you look out these players that have to be the face of the league.
You could put Giannis up there.
You could put Nikola Jokic up there.
But I don't think the NBA wants an international player being the face of the league.
I think the international player wants...
Well, okay, never mind.
Wimby is international.
What am I talking about?
Yeah.
Hold up.
That whole argument is stupid right there.
I was...
I don't know.
I wasn't thinking for that one.
But just out of curiosity, what American rookie would you have said?
As far as American rookie being the face of the league, I don't think an American rookie
this season can be the face of the league.
I don't think the Czechs can be the face of the league.
I don't think Jami Hawkes is going to be the face of the league.
I don't think Keontae George is.
I don't think any of these players can be the face of the league.
See, my take on this Wimby thing?
I think Wimby's going to be good.
Do I think he's the future of the league?
I think he's the future of the league as a center play.
I don't think he's the future of the league as an international, everything else, because
you got so many players that just cook.
Okay.
Who do you think is going to be the face of the league after Braun and Steph...
I think Lugas.
I don't want to die if we get out of the league.
I think Luga.
Janis is tough because...
I don't think Janis can.
I don't know how long Janis can hold up though.
That's the thing.
Because Janis plays a lot of fucking games every single year.
But so does Luga though.
I think Luga will actually accomplish something the next couple years.
That's what I think the league is going to be.
Luga's good.
Luga's really good.
I'm a big fan of Luga.
I'm a big fan of his game as far as if he's going to get with the hump.
I hope he does because I'm a big Luga fan.
I know you were too, Evin.
I hope he does.
I can't see it as of right now.
Maybe that will change, but as of right now I can't see that happening.
But I'm also looking at Wimby.
I think Wimby is one of the better rookies this year.
One of the better?
He is the best.
Come on.
But here's why I'm giving the edge to Wimby.
If you look at him and Chet's stats, they're practically similar.
But the only difference is, okay, here's what I'm playing with.
I'm playing with Shady Ocasale and they're taking 20 plus shots a night, 30 plus shots
a night.
And I'm still averaging that.
Whereas Wimby's the face of the team.
Exactly.
Yeah, that's a good argument.
I like that point.
I feel like, depending on if Chet gains more weight, does all this amazing stuff actually
work on this game, I feel like he will be better than Wimby.
But the thing I like about Wimby though, but actually no.
That is a good point, but at the same time though, I'm going to argue this too.
Pop don't give Wimby that ball to save his life.
The thing with Pop though, he's done this before.
He did this with Tim Duncan.
He puts him on amendment restrictions.
So he's only playing what, 20 something minutes a game?
I don't think he can go over 20 something minutes a game.
If he let Wimby play a lot more, Wimby's going to embrace that role and play a full game
and you're going to see an unleashed Wimby.
But Pop doesn't want that.
Pop's thinking long term in the whole equation of it all.
But see, my thing with that is though, is that if you want to develop, you need to draft
count, you need to do all this stuff with count before you do any minute restrictions
doing all this stuff.
Because who else is there on the Spurs?
Jeremy Sohan, you got, is that Collins on the Spurs?
Is that Collins on the Spurs?
You got Kellan Johnson.
Kellan Johnson, I like him.
Anyone else think negative?
I can't think of anyone else.
I think Tyus, Jeremy's on there.
But that's what I'm saying though.
You don't have these, I don't want to say, you have these role players.
I'm going to say role players.
You don't have star players.
If you had, let's just say, a Damian Lillard.
I'm going to randomly pick Damian Lillard.
You get Damian Lillard and then you give Wimby the minutes restriction, Wimby's probably
going to be like, okay, I want to play with Dave more and more, more than this should
see 20 minutes.
Because I've been hearing talks over this off season that Trae Young wants to pair with
Wimby in San Antonio.
But in my opinion of that is you're going to a worship spot in Atlanta now.
I feel like he got it good in Atlanta, but I feel like Trae and Wimby would be a good
combination just like Shay and Chet make the ball game fair.
But the thing about the Thunder is they got a bunch of good role players and they have
drafts thanks for life for whoever knows how long.
And that's what makes the two different.
See me personally, I don't think Chet should win the award.
He's not an official rookie in my books.
Whereas Wimby is.
I don't think Chet should win it either.
But I mean, rules are rules.
I will say that.
Like if he played one game, if he played one second on that court, if he pulled an Aaron
Rogers this season, let's say he sits on the court for a solid two minutes and pairs with
Achilles, we got to count that.
That's unfair.
But since he got injured before the season, I got to count it.
I hate that argument because I like Donald Mitchell.
And I think Donald Mitchell should have won it over Ben Simmons.
I agree.
It just, it just sucks because you know, it just sucks you have to put him in that scenario.
Yeah.
I agree.
It's tough.
I mean, you look at it.
Who's the other good rookies?
Hamee Haquez with Miami Heat putting up numbers.
You got Kiyote George with the Utah Jazz.
You got Jordan Hawkins too.
Jordan Hawkins with the New Orleans Pelicans.
I like Jordan Hawkins a lot.
I'm glad we drafted him, but we can actually be smart and actually play him.
But that speaks to what I said earlier about putting people in spots that need to be played.
But I do think though that Remy will be the face of the league at some point.
Not the face of the league, but like he's younger than Lucas.
So one of the faces of the league?
One of the faces of the league, yeah.
Okay.
So he's an international player that where people would just be like, oh my gosh, can
I get your autograph?
But that's like, he's going to be, because like think about it, he's already a Louis
Vuitton ambassador.
Right.
So like, yeah, he already getting that, his name up there.
So well, this is another topic.
Do you think the NBA will have a face of the league or just move into this model of having
multiple faces of the league?
You had Michael Jordan in the nineties, you had Kogri in the 2000s and now Braun in the
2010s.
Maybe before in the 2020s as Braun and Steph H. Do you think the NBA just have one face
of the league or do you think they're going to move into this model of having multiple
faces of the league?
I think they're going to move into multiple.
It just depends on, let's just say Giannis wins like three rings.
They're going to focus more on Giannis and just be like, oh my gosh, Giannis is doing
this.
Oh my gosh, yada yada this, yada yada that.
It depends on what players are dominating.
Because if Luca wins one year, Giannis wins one year, Wimmy wins another year, they're
going to, the NBA is a business, we all know this, they're going to market their ass off.
So they're going to try to promote all three of them and be like, hey, watch Luca live
on NBA League pass or hey, watch Giannis live on NBA League pass.
They're going to market off of everybody as they're currently doing now.
So I do believe that there will be more than one face of the league soon.
All right, cool.
Cool.
Uh, I guess now we're going to delve into a non NBA topic and kind of delve into an NFL
topic.
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey, you know, the relationship of a lifetime, right?
I think my personal opinion on that, that is all fake.
That is all for the views.
Oh, you're not going to give them credit.
I mean, no, credit.
No, no, no, no, they are not.
You man, I'm going to tell you this.
Okay.
Somehow.
Okay.
I think this was just a storyline script for the NFL to let the chiefs win.
Because think about it.
They were sucking ass before Taylor before and who, and who comes along to help them
start winning games?
Taylor Swift.
What was their record?
Whenever they played against, like they were with Taylor Swift, like 12 and three or something
like that.
I don't think, I think they were undefeated or close to undefeated every time Taylor was
there, right?
They lost that Christmas day game against the Raiders.
I know they lost that game for sure.
But other than that though, like, it's just kind of weird that you really think about
it.
Like out of all of a sudden y'all started magically popping off because Taylor's was
there.
I mean, I don't blame them because she's bringing in loads of money.
I read an article she was bringing like 330 million dollars every time she goes to a team
game.
Something like that along the lines.
I have no idea.
But I believe me personally, it is fake.
I just gotta say for all of our viewers out there, the Extra Spicy Pod, we love love.
We love relationships.
We're not going to hate on people who are in love with each other.
We're not going to put down on people who are in love with each other, right Evan?
I'm putting down that fake ass relationship.
I don't care what you say.
I'm putting down that.
That is fake as hell.
Watch them break up literally during the summer.
If they break up during the summer, I'm coming on this podcast and I'm telling everyone I
told you so.
If they don't, y'all can throw an egg at me or something.
You already have breakup rumors going out there.
I've seen them.
Like, y'all can throw an egg at me if I'm wrong.
I'm just going to let it be known on this podcast, we love love.
We do not judge others and we love love.
We do try to be happy for people, but in this scenario though, when it comes to my money
and me betting on the 49ers to win, they're just messing with my money at this point.
I don't like traps, Kelsey.
But that's also me being biased.
I support them if they are actually in a healthy, happy relationship, but on the personal side
of it, fake as hell.
Are you willing to place a bet on they're going to break up with the next year?
I will gladly place a bet.
How much are you willing to bet on that?
$50?
$100?
Ain't nothing that high.
Oh, we're talking small money bets?
Yeah, we're talking small money bets.
You don't have confidence like that.
Do you have it?
Ah, shi- I'm just too broke for all that.
I'll place a $10 bet.
Like everyone on my fan duel bets.
All right, all right.
Well, I just want to let you know we love love on this podcast.
We love seeing people happy.
We are very happy for Travis Kelsey that he found him a good woman that he's going to
stay with hopefully forever, right Evan?
Hopefully.
Yeah.
But I do believe that they will break up though, because for the publicity, for the views,
everything.
Bro, you do not stop hating, do you?
I do stop hating.
It's just I don't believe in it.
I don't believe in this bullshit.
That's just me though.
If they are actually in a healthy relationship, I will give them their credit.
That's what I personally got to say about it.
All right, all right.
Well, we have different opinions on this topic like we're going to have from time to time.
You know, I think they're in love.
I think it's for real.
I think that all this, oh, it's rare, Delina Pell.
I think that's all made up.
That's awesome.
BS.
We can get into that topic another episode if we really want to.
How sports may be weird, they may not be waved.
Some events may be waved.
I don't know about all that.
In my opinion, Travis Felsey, Taylor Swift, their relationship has very little to do with
how well the G's are doing.
Now with that being said, let's get into sort of a non-sports topic.
So this is going to be like one of our final two topics, okay?
So what is our favorite podcast and who are our idols?
So I'll go first with this one.
Some of the main podcasts I listen to, the Pat McAfee show I think is really good.
I really love Pat McAfee and the Viagrains Tour show is energy.
I know he's on college game day now, which I think is really cool.
A lot of people hate him on college game day, which I don't get because I'm a big fan.
Him and AJ as well, AJ Hawk, they're really funny people on that podcast.
They bring in people to interview throughout the NBA, NFL, really insightful sports coverage.
Another podcast I listen to a lot is the Joe Rogan Experience.
I think he's pretty amazing in what he does covering topics, a wide variety of topics
from music to politics to MMA fighting to comedy.
His range is very, very, he's a great podcaster.
As well, another one, I kind of want to plug this podcast, it's a little smaller podcast
I think, but it's called the Boys Cast by Ryan Long.
Listen to it, especially if you're a male, you will find it hilarious.
What they do in that podcast, they go, and it's two comedians, they come together, they
pull up these wacky articles, these woke articles, and they just laugh at these people because
a lot of these people, they deserve to be laughed at.
You want to normalize cannibalism?
No, thank you, my dude.
I don't want you to normalize cannibalism.
I'm okay with you not eating other people.
I will not eat you.
You will not eat me, and that's how it's going to be.
Do you agree with cannibalism?
I do not agree with cannibalism.
I'm glad we're off.
I don't feel like I can eat you today, so.
Well, some people I guess do, you know?
But, so, I like, my podcast, I do like Joe Rogan a lot.
Jeff Teague is a good one.
Now see, there are some podcasts I can't get into because, like for example, I can't get
into Cam Newton stuff.
I can't get into Cam Newton stuff.
Who else can I not get into?
Gilbert Rios, I can't get into them two podcasts, but I'm a Joe Rogan type of guy.
I don't want to be a generic person and be like, oh, I listen to New Heights, but they
have some interesting topics.
Who else was it?
The Old Man and 3JJ Reddick.
He's a good-ass guy.
I'm trying to deep dive into other podcasts now.
I'm trying to learn from all these podcasts and groups so I can learn.
Do you just mainly focus on sports podcasts?
Because I know you named a lot of sports podcasters.
I mean, I haven't recently, yeah, but as soon as me diving into the podcasting, I got to
start with the little stuff, the basic stuff first, and then go down to the deeper stuff.
So I feel like that would be beneficial for me.
I mean, basically everyone in the league is starting podcasts, and so many sports players,
NFL players, NBA players, they're starting podcasts.
They're getting their own voices out there in the airwaves, and they're not having to
do it through NBA media or through this media coverage.
They're doing it by themselves, which is pretty cool, I think.
What do you think?
I think it is pretty cool.
I like how the older players are getting paid and stuff, but at the same time, though, I
personally think that not everybody and their mama deserves a damn podcast.
I mean, you could say the same thing about us.
You could say the same thing about little Jimmy from down the street trying to start
a podcast.
Okay, do you think we shouldn't do this podcast then?
We should just call it quits?
No.
I think this is a good little starting point.
The people that actually genuinely try, we're giving our actual thoughts on this.
We're actually trying to put a little bit of effort into it, every single podcast, giving
these amazing viewers great time to listen to.
I do believe that we will end up actually doing great things in the future.
So you don't think everyone deserves a podcast, though?
Not everyone.
Not everyone and their mama deserves a podcast, no.
Well, that's something I disagree with.
I think anyone should be able to start their own podcast if they want to.
I do believe they have the right to start their own podcast.
At the same time, though, like Puggle Side or making these people popular, like for example,
Gilbert Arena's podcast.
I'm going to take Gilbert Arena's podcast.
The man said, and I kind of see his point, but at the same time, though, no, because
that's the point of the National Basketball Association.
He said, and I quote, the NBA should ban European players.
Ooh.
He's like, think about it.
They're on athletic.
All they can do is shoot.
Like, they don't play defense and it's making the rules of the NBA softer.
But that's the point of the NBA.
You have all these people from different places get drafted and get through the motions.
The NBA is pretty international as of right now.
So that take is kind of dumb.
But I understand his point, though, but at the same time, I mean, personally, I think
that take is kind of dumb.
Because then again, you still have the people that come from, like, let's just say, UConn
and just dominate.
I don't know who's coming out of UConn to dominate like that or who's going to play
defense like that, but you still have these people that will actually come and dominate
at the per level.
Like, for example, we're going to take Herb Guernsey for example.
Herb Guernsey came out of Alabama, the Crimson Tide College.
He played for the Pelhammys.
Now, I've watched his main lockup, Luka, twice in a row.
Twice in a row.
And I just watched him lock up Albert the other night.
And he ain't no European player.
So I just believe that the USA needs to get better at basketball.
But that also sticks to my point.
Not everybody in Namama deserves to have a podcast.
I do believe they can start a podcast, the free will, free speech.
They can have it.
The certain shit that they say on this podcast.
So just because you disagree with someone means they don't deserve a podcast?
No.
It's just a certain shit that they say.
If I say, if I come up over here and say don't shit, but at the same time though, we're
getting acknowledged for it.
And people are just like, oh my gosh, this is a good podcast.
But if an actual intelligent person looks at our podcast, they're going to be like,
oh, that man Leland said something dumb.
Like, I don't think he deserves a podcast.
Evan says a lot of dumb things just to be on the record.
He goes through his whole life saying dumb things, 24-7-365.
No, no, not all the time.
He said 20 dumb things in between these podcasts that we're doing.
In between these little commercial breaks that we're doing, he said 20 dumb things.
I said 15.
Drips on you.
Anyways.
More like 100.
Nope, not 100.
But that's what I personally believe.
I do believe that people should start a podcast.
If they're artists in the right mind do it, if people are doing it for shits and giggles,
that's cool too.
But if you're going to go on the podcast and get acknowledged for something dumb, I mean,
if it makes international headlines good for you, like for example, I like how as much
as I hate this topic, how KMV was like Brock Pertti as a game manager.
That was a big topic in the NFL.
You know this, I know this.
I think that was actually a good solid topic.
But I don't think Brock Pertti is a game manager though.
So I kind of go with your saying a little bit to where if these podcasters are making
a big, like they have responsibility to inform themselves and to have informed takes.
That doesn't mean that their takes can't be unique and their takes can't be hot.
They just got to have non-stupid takes, right?
Thank you.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
I understand what you're going from now.
I understand.
Because like whenever I heard Gilbert Rimas was like, okay, I think the players should
take over and make the new media instead of like these ESPN reporters and stuff.
It's kind of hard to do that because you're going to have your own personal bias.
Because let's just say Paul Pierce gets on his podcast because I know KJ, Paul Pierce
got a podcast.
Let's just say Paul Pierce is like, oh man, I don't think LeBron, let's just say LeBron
plays like five more years.
Oh man, I don't think LeBron is the greatest anymore.
He won seven championships now.
He's done all this stuff, yada yada, this yada yada, that.
People are going to get on his ass.
But if you bring solid evidence of why, that's understandable.
That Gilbert Rimas quote that I said earlier about baiting Europeans, you can't really
say that because we have seen guys actually play defense and since he in the BAs in the
International League, you may have a guy from Taiwan or China or somewhere come in, may
already have these skills.
You may never know.
It was just a dumb take on my opinion, but that's what I personally believe though.
All right.
You know, you have takes that are dumb, you have takes that are good.
You have some takes that are pretty cold and you have some takes that are hot.
I myself think I have some pretty hot takes.
That's why this podcast we're naming it the Extra Spicy Pie.
Oh yeah.
This last little bit, we're going to go over idols or specific idols, not just in sports
brand life.
I'm going to start with mine being number one, Drew Brees.
I being from Louisiana, seeing that what he's brought to the city of New Orleans, to the
state of Louisiana.
He's done some amazing things on and off the field.
Another one I think, Michael Jordan, I think he's an extremely hardworking NBA player.
In my opinion, the GOAT, but I know that's a hot topic as of right now.
Dwayne Wade.
The reason why I got into Heat fandom is Dwayne Wade.
He's done a lot for the city of Miami.
And honestly, he's just my idol because he's on my favorite team.
And people are going to be like that.
Their favorite player on their favorite team is going to be their idol just because it's
on their favorite team.
You know what I mean?
So for mine, this is going to be a weird ass list.
I know you're going to be looking at me like weird ass list.
Okay.
So I got three people in mine.
One is Aaron Rodgers.
Before you're like, hold the front door, hold the hold up.
Why Aaron Rodgers?
You're going to do a darkness retreat?
Yeah, I'm going to do a darkness retreat.
You don't have to be in this podcast.
You have to be in the dark.
I'm going to do a two day darkness retreat from school.
So I say Aaron Rodgers because he actually cares.
Like he tries to do good.
But let's just say that the whole situation in Green Bay, that wasn't really his fault,
but that was just a shit show in Green Bay.
But if you watch him like do interviews and like if you watch Hard Knocks this year, it
shows that he cares about like his team in general.
Like he actually genuinely tries to win.
So Aaron Rodgers is one of them.
Number two, I'm going to go to the UFC real quick.
I like Dustin Poirier.
I like he's from Lafayette.
I like how he had to work his way up to get to the UFC.
He dominated, hard working dude.
So I like Dustin a lot.
Dustin, great guy overall.
Number three, Brandon Ingram.
Brandon Ingram is as silent as a mouse.
Let me explain.
He is as silent as a mouse.
He don't talk shit except when people talk shit back to him.
He is silent as a mouse.
Extremely hard working dude.
He's willing to put the work in.
And that's the kind of like person I kind of am.
I kind of, if someone starts to talk shit back to me.
I like to be a non-winner like Brandon Ingram is.
Okay, hold the fuck up.
Hold the fuck up.
He doesn't want anything.
Okay.
Hold the fuck up.
He got traded to New Orleans.
But he put in the work to be better.
What would you rather take?
Would you rather take the Brandon Ingram from New Orleans or the Leipziger?
Brandon Mayburn in New Orleans for sure.
I rest my case.
But you're saying you want to be like him.
You want to have hard work but also not enough hard work to win.
I do want hard work but not enough to win.
But it's kind of hard to win when one of your teams has been injured most of these years.
But you're the only one producing though.
That's the thing.
If you're giving your all in producing and you just can't win.
That's not on you at that point.
Like when I went to the playoff game against Phoenix that year.
BI dropped like 30.
CJ dropped 20.
Everybody was actually contributing.
That's not on BI.
BI was a hot house foreign dude.
So you can't really.
If you want to be that legend, if you want to be that icon, you got to carry.
I mean look at what LeBron did.
This is for Cleveland.
For whatever he said.
They won the checkmate chip in Cleveland.
He carried that cows team.
I wouldn't say carried.
I mean.
I wouldn't say carried dog.
You had Prine, Kevin Love.
You had Prine, Kevin Love and you had Prine, Kyrie.
That is healthy.
Well the year before or after he was without Kyrie.
And you were still able to take them to the finals.
That's the best.
I like that version of carry.
The 2018 dance.
That's a form of carry.
But I mean there's nothing he could have done about that either way.
But I mean teams do try to carry though.
That's the thing.
But that's also the point of playing team ball.
If you play better team ball.
You're going to win.
It's a team sport everyone.
Basketball is a team sport.
I mean maybe not the most team sport.
Because football is very much a team sport.
You can't just have one guy that's going to get you 80% of your wins in football.
You just can't talk shit to the O-line.
And then not expect to get sacked the very next play.
We all work together.
You all bring each other up.
Do all this amazing stuff.
But in basketball you can't have one superstar player that's going to carry your team to at least 50, 45 wins or something.
That can happen.
You know with the Bronco and the Cavs in 2018.
He really did carry that team.
You have I mean Giannis, Nicola Jokic.
I know they have help around them.
But they're still to a large part carrying their teams.
I think that's possible in the NBA.
Not so much in football.
Not so much in baseball.
Or hockey.
Or soccer to that much extent.
You agree Evan?
I agree.
I absolutely do agree.
Nice.
But overall that's our idols.
That's what we...
This was our very first introduction episode.
I really do hope y'all like the Extra Spicy Pod.
And will continue to listen to the Extra Spicy Pod.
I'm Evan and I am out of here.
Signing out.
This is Lainan.
Thank y'all for listening.
I hope y'all like it.
Like Evan said.
I hope y'all agree that the Miami Heat are better than the New Orleans Pelicans.
With that being said.
Adios.