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Mike Tomlin is stepping down as the head coach

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for the Steelers. I know this is a joyous time

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for a lot of people, but I feel like in this

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moment, we need to peel back the layers on why

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this is happening now. And we need to talk about

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potential head coach candidates, what's going

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to happen moving forward, what I think they need

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to do, and how is this going to affect the players

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moving forward, okay? All of this and more on

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this breaking news episode of the Football Junkies

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Podcast. I'm not going to do no intro, not going

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to do no outro. We're just going to get into

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it, okay? So here's the statement from Steelers

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president Art Rooney II, and I quote, During

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our meeting today, Coach Tomlin informed me that

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he has decided to step down as our head coach.

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Obviously, I am extremely grateful to Mike for

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all the hard work, dedication, and success we

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have shared over the last 19 years. It is hard

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for me to put into words the level of respect

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and appreciation I have for Coach Tomlin. He

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guided the franchise to our sixth Super Bowl

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championship and made the playoffs 13 times during

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his tenure, including winning the AFC North eight

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times in his career. His track record of never

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having a losing season in 19 years will likely

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never be duplicated. My family and I and everyone

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connected to the Steelers management are forever

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grateful for the passion and dedication Mike

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Tomlin has devoted to the Steelers football,

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end quote. Now here's the statement from Mike

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Tomlin and I quote, After much thought and reflection,

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I have decided to step down as head coach of

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the Pittsburgh Steelers. This organization has

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been a huge part of my life for many years and

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has been an absolute honor to lead this team.

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I am deeply grateful to Art Rooney II and the

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late Ambassador Rooney for their trust and support.

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I am also thankful to the players who gave everything

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they had every day and to the coaches and staff

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whose commitment and dedication made this journey

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so meaningful. I want to also thank Steelers

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Nation. Your passion, loyalty, and high expectations

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represent what makes this franchise truly special.

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Coaching in Pittsburgh is unlike anywhere else,

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and I will always take great pride in having

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being a steward of this team. While this chapter

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comes to a close, my respect and love for the

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Pittsburgh Steelers will never change. I am excited

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for what the future holds for this organization,

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and I will forever be grateful for my time in

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Pittsburgh." Mike Tomlin's overall record with

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the Steelers is 193 wins and 114 losses. Now

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that we've read all the statements and whatnot,

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let's talk about this situation. I don't think

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Mike Tomlin made this move after the Texans'

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loss. I think Mike Tomlin had been thinking of

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this move for a very long time. Because let's

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be honest here. The last few years with the Steelers

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have not been great. They haven't done well in

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the playoffs. And just overall, they're not a

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good team. Now, sure, we can play the blame game.

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We can point fingers at this person and that

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person, this decision and that decision. But

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the fact of the matter is this. The Steelers

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are trying to do something that is very difficult.

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And that is they're trying to retool while remain

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competitive. Now, I'm not saying this is impossible,

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but the part that the Steelers continue to fail

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on is not consistently hitting on their draft

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picks. And the other part we need to talk about

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is the Steelers continuing to sign these old

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players. I understand that these are some really

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great names and these are going to be potential

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first ballot Hall of Famers and whatnot. But

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you guys are signing these old ass players thinking

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that you're going to get the same production

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that you saw with other teams when you're not

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even using them the same way that they were just

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used. So when you factor all of this in, of course,

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the Steelers were not going to be competitive.

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Now, I know the media is spinning this story

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and talk about how Steelers fans are ungrateful

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and they need to appreciate Mike Tomlin and all

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this crazy things. And he's never had a losing

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season. Let's really talk about this. All right.

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Yes it is an achievement that he's never had

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a losing season but at the same time that doesn't

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mean that he's greater than all the other coaches.

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Because anybody can be great in the regular season.

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What really defines your legacy is the postseason.

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In the last few years Mike Tomlin has not had

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a lot of success in the postseason. The last

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time they won the playoffs was in 2017 and since

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then they haven't done anything. In 2020, you

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lost to the Browns 48 -37. In 2021, you lost

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to the Chiefs 42 -21. In 2023, you lost to the

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Bills 31 -17. In 2024, you lost to the Ravens

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28 -14. In 2025, you lost to the Texans 30 -6.

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Now, sure, people can play the blame game and

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say, oh, we didn't have this person in the playoffs,

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or we didn't have this quarterback in the playoffs,

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and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

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blah, blah. Doesn't matter, okay? The fact of

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the matter is, this has been an accumulation

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over time of not getting it done. And let's also

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be honest here. The Texans game was probably

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their best chance of winning a playoff game.

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Because C .J. Stroud wasn't playing his best

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ball. He kept fumbling the ball over and over

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and over again. The defense was putting the offense

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in great positions on the field. But the offense

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couldn't do anything. Because why? They have

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a stagnant offensive coordinator and they don't

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have any weapons. Now as much as I want to praise

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Mike Tomlin for all of his achievements and whatnot,

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I also have to be very critical. Bro, you wasn't

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getting it done in the last few years. And I'll

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be honest, I'll be very transparent with you

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guys. Mook, you know exactly what I'm getting

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ready to say. The only time this offseason where

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I was actually really excited to be a Steelers

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fan was when we acquired Jalen Ramsey. Because

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at that moment, I'm thinking, oh, we only gave

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up a couple picks and maybe a player that's not

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going to make the roster to acquire Jalen Ramsey.

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But then once I found out that we traded away

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Minkah Fitzpatrick, I was done with the team.

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Because at that point, that had already let me

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know that you're choosing names over value. Let's

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go a little bit deeper. I've been one of the

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main people that have been beating on the table

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that the worst trade they ever made this offseason

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was getting Jalen Ramsey for Minka Fitzpatrick.

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Because I know everybody was being critical of

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Minka saying, oh, he's not making the same splash

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moves that he used to do. He's not getting picks.

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He's not getting this. He's not getting that.

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Why are we paying Minka Fitzpatrick all this

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money? But the fact of the matter is this. You

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need Minka. Because what you have on this roster

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right now is a more expensive, less athletic

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version of Minka Fitzpatrick. And this is no

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way of me shooting a shot at Jalen Ramsey. I

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love Jalen Ramsey, love his game, love everything

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that he bought to the Steelers. But you traded

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down to get a name. Then you give $10 million

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to Darius Slade when you know he can't play man

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coverage anymore. And understand this here, folks.

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There is not one player on this roster that Mike

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Tomlin does not give the green light on. This

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isn't Omar Khan's working. This is Mike Tomlin's

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working. And don't get it twisted. I'm not one

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of these crazy fans out here that are saying,

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fuck Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin's gotta go. I'm

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so sick of Mike Tomlin. I could just cry right

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now. I'm gonna drink my life off. I'm not one

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of those fans, okay? If you're looking for the

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Steel Hero Podcast, you're not gonna get that

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over here. You're gonna get real people, real

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information, real facts. If you're looking for

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that delusion crap over there, you go over there

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and you look for it, but not over here. We're

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gonna talk about this situation. We're gonna

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unpack this situation like professionals. I can

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be critical of somebody while at the same time

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appreciating the work that they do. What coach

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do you know that can go through the things that

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Mike Tomlin has gone through within the last

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five to ten years and still remain competitive?

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Name me one coach that can still remain competitive

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without having a franchise quarterback. I don't

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know a lot of coaches that can do it, but Mike

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Tomlin can say that he did it. And before we

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go any further, huge, huge, huge shout out to

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Josina Anderson because she was one of the first

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people that actually talked about a significant

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move like this happening. Now, this is what Josina

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Anderson tweeted out on October 13th, and I quote,

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Spoke to a league source who tells me they're

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currently expecting five NFL head coaching changes

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that includes the Titans. One of said teams has

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a star player expressing frustration to ownership.

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Another team no one is really talking about now

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could be looking for new scenery next year. We'll

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keep you posted. Some top personnel changes already

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simmering, as well as on a couple of teams minimum.

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One in each conference." And since we're giving

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out shoutouts, we also have to mention Albert

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Breer because he was the one that made the connection

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of Chris Shula possibly being the next head coach

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for the Steelers. So this move was already in

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play a long time ago. It's just now it's finally

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come to fruition. Now, with that being said,

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I know a lot of people are overhyping the Steelers

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job. Everyone's saying, oh, it's the most coveted

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job in all of the league. And it's the greatest

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job of all. You got to go to the Steelers if

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you're a head coach, blah, blah, blah, blah,

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blah. You gotta, gotta, gotta. Yes and no. Let

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me explain why. So for starters, the Steelers

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don't have a franchise quarterback. And it also

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doesn't help that you're approaching a draft

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class that doesn't have a lot of quarterback

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prospects. And the only two prospects that everybody

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is going to be clamoring over are going to be

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drafted high up in the draft. So there's no point

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in you giving up a boatload of picks to try to

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get Fernando Mendoza or Ty Simpson. Just build

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out the rest of your team and go for it in 27.

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Now, the cap space, that's not really a problem,

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honestly. They can work around. They can, you

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know, make some restructures, cut some people,

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trade some people. That's not a problem, right?

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But when we really look at the situation in itself,

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we also have to factor in that parts of this

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defense is getting old. So with that being said,

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the Steelers have a lot of decisions that they're

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going to have to make this offseason. And some

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of them are going to be very uncomfortable, but

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they're going to have to be made. Do you let

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Cam Hayward hit free agency? Do you entertain

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possibly trading away T .J. Watt? Do you try

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to get younger on the defense and try to allocate

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more money on the offense? These are the conversations

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that need to happen now so that they can get

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an understanding on how they want to approach

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this thing. Because for all intents and purposes,

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they may still bring in a defensive coach. Or

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they may bring in an offensive head coach. Who

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knows? And whoever the next head coach is, they

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need to expand this coaching staff. Because right

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now, having this small coaching staff doesn't

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benefit anybody. A lot of times, the reason why

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the Steelers lost certain games was because they

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were out -schemed. It wasn't because of players.

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It wasn't because they scored more points or

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made more plays. It was schematics. The few times

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that Mike Tomlin has faced the Colts, what has

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happened? He's always been out -schemed. Whenever

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he faces some of the top teams in the league,

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what happens? He gets out -schemed. That's a

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problem. And the crazy thing is, coaches don't

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count against the salary cap. Now, I understand

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that Art Rooney isn't a Jerry Jones or a Shad

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Khan or Cronky or all those other owners that

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have multiple streams of incomes. But at the

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same time, when you look at some of the best

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teams in the league, they have a decent sized

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coaching staff. Now, I'm not saying you need

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to have the biggest coaching staff in the entire

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league, but you need to make those investments

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because what continues to happen year after year

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after year when you face these great teams? You

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get outcoached. in every single form on offense,

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on defense, on special teams, and everything

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in between. And you wonder why certain players

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aren't playing to the best of their abilities

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because a lot of times they may be in the wrong

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situation or they could be used in the wrong

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way. We've seen multiple times how Mike Tomlin

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has tried to fit square pegs into circle pegs

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thinking that it's going to work and it doesn't.

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Perfect example, Kevin Dotson. Kevin Dotson said,

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I don't play this position. My natural position

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is this position. They traded him away to the

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Rams and now he's one of the best guards in the

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league. Now, one of the benefits of the Steelers

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job is you're going to be given a chance. They're

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going to let this thing play out. But if they

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see that you're not making a lot of progress

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and you're starting to lose the locker room and

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fans, then they're going to make a move. And

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we also have to mention that Art Rooney is a

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patient owner. He's not somebody that listens

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to the fans or listen to the media or this person

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or that person. He moves to the beat of his own

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drum. Although I don't think the Steelers job

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is the best job, I do believe that there's some

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pros and cons with it. And I think if you're

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somebody that values stability from the top all

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the way down, I think this is the perfect place

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for you. Because let's be honest here. Everybody

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knows this. The Steelers don't fire their coaches.

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They just let their contracts play out. Now,

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we all know they fired Matt Canada, but I mean,

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that was bad. That was really bad. That was really,

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really, really, really, really bad. But outside

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of that, they usually give their coaches a chance.

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Now, with that being said, let's talk about some

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candidates. So the first few people that come

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to mind are Chris Shula, Brian Flores, Jesse

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Mentor, Robert Sala. Now, I'll be honest here.

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I feel like the defensive candidates are better

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than the offensive candidates this cycle. And

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the reason why I say that is because Jesse Minter

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is proven. Brian Flores is proven. Chris Shula

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is proven. Clint Kubiak, to me, and this is my

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personal opinion, is not proven. And the reason

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why I say that is because Clint Kubiak is just

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having one good year. Anybody can have one good

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year. We see that in free agency all the time.

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One player that nobody is talking about, that

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a lot of people have just shrugged off, has one

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amazing year, and next thing you know, they're

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resetting their positional market. I don't want

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that. What I want is consistency, and he doesn't

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have consistency. Because if we can be honest

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here, you can't just talk about his tenure with

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the Seahawks and not mention his tenure with

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the Saints. It doesn't go like that. I think

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the best thing for him is to stay as an offensive

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coordinator, continue to build up his reputation,

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continue to develop some players, then go for

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a head coaching job. Now, I think Brian Flores

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is a good option as well because he has familiarity

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with the organization and players. He's very

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creative with his blitz schemes and whatnot.

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But Jesse Minter, to me, is very interesting.

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And the reason why I say that is because when

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we look at the Chargers defense, everybody benefited

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from the coaching. From Adafio Way to Khalil

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Mack, of course, Derwin James, Dante Jackson,

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I can continue to go down the list. I think if

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you really want to maximize what you have on

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this defense, Jesse Minter is the way to go.

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Now, if you want to take things another level,

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you could get Chris Shula. And the reason why

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I mentioned Chris Shula is because, for starters,

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he's the grandson of Don Shula, which we all

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know the Steelers love legacy and whatnot. If

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you get him, you could also get the past game

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specialist and make him the offensive coordinator.

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So you kill two birds with one stone. The next

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head coach in some way needs to be like a Mike

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Tomlin. And when I mean a Mike Tomlin, I mean

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somebody who is able to motivate their players

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despite the circumstance. You could be on a two

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-game losing streak, and that coach is going

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to motivate your players to play their best ball.

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You need a head coach that has a CEO mindset

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and not a backup manager mindset. Now, Robert

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Sala is an interesting name as well because although

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a lot of people are going to criticize him for

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his time with the Jets, the one takeaway we can

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all agree upon is he made that defense better.

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From Sauce Garner to Quinton Williams and even

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Quincy Williams, everybody on that defense under

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Robert Siler played better. And since then, they

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haven't been playing their best ball, aside from

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Quinton Williams, which that's another story

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for another day, right? I think if you bring

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in any of these guys, your team is going to be

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great. There's no need for you to go on the offensive

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side because there's not a lot of good options,

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okay? And that's the part that upsets me because

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you could have done this a couple years ago.

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See, if you would have done this in the window

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when Ben Johnson was available, Jim Harbaugh,

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Mike Vrabel, Raheem Morris, you would have had

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way better options because right now it looks

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like the best candidates are for the defense.

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So if you're trying to go a different way, you

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really can't do it this time. Are you going to

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go with Mike McDaniel? Hell no. Are you going

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to go with Kevin Stefanski? Hell no. Are you

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going to go with Clint Kubiak? Hell no. You might

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as well want to stay with the defense. Have them

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bring in a really good offensive coordinator

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and just go from there. And one more thing we

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need to talk about and then we'll end the episode.

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The Steelers are going to hire somebody young.

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They're not going to hire a 42 or 45 or 50 year

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old. They're going to hire somebody that is young.

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My guess is Chris Shula, Jesse Minter, Brian

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Flores, maybe Robert Sala comes to mind because

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those are some of the youngest candidates right

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now. Now, could they surprise us? Yes, but I

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don't think they will. With that being said,

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I think we need to take a moment and celebrate

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Mike Tomlin. Because all I've been seeing is,

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oh, Mike Tomlin quit on the team. And oh my God,

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I'm so happy that Mike Tomlin is gone. Oh my

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God, I can cry right now. I'm just going to pull

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over and just cry and celebrate. But we need

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to give his flowers. Because I don't know a lot

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of coaches that can do the things that he's been

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able to do in the past few years. So Coach Tomlin,

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thank you. As a black kid growing up, seeing

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you on the sideline coach the Pittsburgh Steelers

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was an honor. From your consistency to your high

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expectations, you continue to prove the naysayers

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wrong season in and season out. From your crazy

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wordisms, to your swag, to the way that you carried

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yourself each and every season. Thank you. And

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with that being said, I'm going to end this episode

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