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Thanks for watching! on Hustle Podcast. I am

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your host Andy Wilson with 16 years of experience

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in the green industry. This is the podcast that

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helps you legitimize and grow your lawn care

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business. Today we have a special guest, Melissa

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Johnson. She is the Director of Marketing for

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Petra Tools. She has 11 ,300 followers on Instagram.

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Melissa, thank you for joining the Lawn Hustle.

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Thanks for having me. For listeners who may not

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know you, can you share your background? Sure.

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So I purchased a home in 2011 and shortly thereafter

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I started doing my own landscaping. I had had

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some personal tragedy kind of hit our family

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and in trying to absorb that and understand that.

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I absolutely fell in love with working in the

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yard and landscaping. And I grew up with my parents

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always landscaping and loving it. And so it just

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very naturally came to me. We had very little

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landscape here at our home. And so I started

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just one landscaping bed at a time and I was

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filming everything and putting it on my Instagram.

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So I started Instagram in 2017 and I had already

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been a couple of years into filming. And so I

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started doing that because I just really wanted

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to connect with people who loved the same things

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I loved. And I did not want to, I just kind of

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wanted to cut all the people and all the things

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that I would see on Facebook and all the years

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of collecting, you know, different friends and

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people, family, all that. I wanted all of that

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cut out. I wanted to just have something I could

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go to for myself. to learn about growing and

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learn about the lawn and learn about all those

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things. I, after that, decided to become a master

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gardener. So I went to training in Kansas City

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and became a master gardener and then met a whole

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other slew of crazy plant people in doing that.

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And so in 2019, Petra Tools contacted me. and

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asked me to make a video for their backpack sprayer.

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It was the HD 4000. And at that time, that was

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the only backpack sprayer they had. And so little

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by little, for a couple of years, I made just

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free content for them. They would send me products

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and I would try them and put them on my Instagram

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page and highlight all of the different things

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I was doing in the yard through the years. And

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then in 2022, they asked me to come in -house

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with them and be an in -house content creator.

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So then I started with the brand. And at that

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point, then Petra Tools became Petra Max, and

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eventually Beast Insulation Products. And so

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now I am the face of the brand for Petra Tools,

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for Petra Max, sorry, for Petra Max. And so I

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handle all the different lawn applications, the

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mulch glue, rock glue, and all of those things.

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And it has been an absolute blast. So then...

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In the last few months, the opportunity came

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up and they contacted me, and I do have a marketing

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background, an extensive marketing background,

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and they contacted me and said that they wanted

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me to come on board as the Director of Marketing

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over all of social influence. So now I am in

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charge of all of the creator relationships across

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PetroTools, Petromax, and Beast USA products.

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So it's been a very, very exciting last couple

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of months, and I'm just excited to be able to

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have some different different platforms and different

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people to meet to kind of spread the word about

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all the different opportunities that we have

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specifically for creators in the green industry.

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I can't, I can't hear you. In your experience,

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what is the biggest misconception that lawn care

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pros have? about brand partnership? Well, I think,

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you know, I think the guys maybe with running,

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you know, running a lawn care business is not

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easy. You know what I mean? It's not it's not

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an easy business to be in. It's painstaking.

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They're managing crews. They're managing a lot

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of different things. And I mean, I know it just

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from on the very basic level of what I do here

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at my home. I maintain over an acre of property.

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It's a lot of work. So when you're out running

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these crews and doing all the different things

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that they're doing, I feel like sometimes these

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guys are in the weeds a little bit. And content

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creation may be something that they're, they

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feel overwhelmed by. They may not know how to

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do it. They may not know where to start. And

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that's where someone like me comes in because

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as a creator and as someone that's in this space.

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I look forward to being able to work with people

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because what they're doing is exactly what we

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want, which is projects and storytelling. That

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is the way to engage with people on social media

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is by showing them projects that they can create

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and complete, or just the fascination of watching

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a project. And of course, storytelling. People

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want to hear a story. They want to know about

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what's going on. So these guys are already in

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the field. They're already out doing the stories,

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right? They're actually making the stories and

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making the projects. So now it's just a matter

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of them putting up a camera and documenting it,

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right? And so them doing that is absolutely an

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essential thing that needs to happen for any

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business right now is to be involved with social

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media and getting a presence online, because

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that's a huge part of how people are. choosing

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who to work with, right? And you see a lot of

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different brands that are very active on social

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media and they almost become like neighborhood

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celebrities, right? And this is a great way to

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be able to break into this business. And like

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I said, it's stuff that you're already doing.

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Like you're already laying the pavers. You're

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already mowing the beautiful lines. Let's talk

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about ways that you can capture that and put

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it into video where it's beneficial for both

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of us because we have paid collaborations. You

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know what I mean? Like we're paying guys to do

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what they're already being paid to do. So it's

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a beautiful relationship for sure. I think sometimes

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we make it harder than what it really is. For

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example, I was mulching up some leaves at my

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own home. And I just stuck my phone on a tripod

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and filmed it. Didn't do anything really extraordinary,

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but it got 463 ,000 views. The ones that I really

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focus on and try sometimes don't take off, but

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it's those ones where you stick a phone on a

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tripod and just record what you're already doing.

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and making content and posting it. Do you feel

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like brands are more interested in relevance

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and trust than they are follower count? Because

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I know follower count holds a lot of people back

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because they see the main influencers in our

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industry with thousands and thousands of followers.

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So someone that is a small lawn care business

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might be intimidated because they don't have

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that follower number. So can you describe to

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us, should we focus on relevance and trust once

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you get a brand's attention? Prove to them that

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you are trustworthy, that you will do what the

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brand expects you to do and You'll follow through

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with all of the guidelines. Yeah, absolutely.

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So we actually prefer to work with the smaller

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guys. And I'll tell you why. Because I was that

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smaller guy back in the day. And Petra Tools

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contacted me and they said, we love the videos

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that you make. We love the way that you can speak

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on camera, the angles, the projects that you

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think of. We love that. And so when they contacted

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me, I had only had, I mean, probably less than

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a thousand followers. And, you know, fast forward

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to today, I have not done a good job of staying

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up to speed on my page because I do so much content

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creation for Petro Tools. But in the last year,

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we had over 900 million views across all of our

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platforms. And this year, our goal is 2 billion

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views. And when they calculated my my reels and

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the content that I performed last year, it was

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up at almost 400 million views. So to your question,

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the views are important, the followers are important,

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but those things come with regular posting and

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with creating. So I've been able to do a lot

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of that for Petra Tools and Petra Max and Beast.

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We've had phenomenal success. On my own page

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though, I have kind of fallen back a little bit

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and that's one of my goals for this year is to

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make sure that I'm taking care of my page also.

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So for these guys that aren't doing that, when

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you're not posting regularly, when you're not

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doing those things, it is harder to pick up the

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followers. It is harder to be able to do those

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things. But I will tell you that I actually prefer

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to work with the smaller pages. When I am looking

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for creators, some of these guys and some of

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these accounts, someone can say, oh, well, I

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charge $2 ,500 for a reel. Well, the problem

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with that is that it may or may not perform.

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It may or may not convert. So I can't pay $2

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,500 when I'm looking through your content, looking

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through your pages, and I'm seeing where there's

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a good chance that it could flop and it could

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maybe just pick up 6 ,000 views and maybe 30

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comments. I can't pay for that. So it's very

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hard for me to be able to justify that. We have

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to sell a lot of product to cover $2 ,500. But

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what I love about working with the smaller guys

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is that I can make them a reasonable offer for

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their time that's going to go into it and for

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what's going to happen and then we can scale

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up together. So as they're making the content

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I may be able to come in and say, OK, well, I

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can pay you $200 to do this reel. And the reel

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may only take them less than an hour to be able

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to handle the filming, throw it together in a

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video, post it, tag it, collaborate it. We see

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how it performs. If it performs, and we're getting

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more views, and you're having things that are

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popping off at a million views, and you've got

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things that are going here and there, then that

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is naturally and organically going to rate. And

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then we can also see the conversions. We have

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affiliate links available. So if the guys are

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doing something where they're promoting a sprayer,

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we have affiliate links right now at 10 % commission.

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If our sprayers are in the $200 range for the

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HD 4000, you're going to make $20 every one that

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you sell. So that's how I'm trying to build in.

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I'm trying to be very competitive with the rates

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that we pay because as a creator, I understand

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it's difficult to create. Sometimes it looks

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really easy. But it is kind of a grind. Sometimes

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you got a shadow in the way or there's airplanes

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flying overhead or dogs are barking, you know,

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and you guys reshoot and reshoot. So I understand

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all of those things. So in my mind, and that's

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why I think it's really unique and very strategic

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thing that they did by bringing me into this

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position, because I understand both sides. So

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I work for the creators because I want to make

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sure they're happy and that they're getting what

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they need and that they feel valued. and I also

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have to protect my company. So I'm merging both

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of those things as a 50 -50 to be able to do

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right on both sides. And so that we create really

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beautiful, mutually beneficial and growing relationships

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together. You mentioned that viewership and subscribers

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and followers come by consistent posting. Describe

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to her. Listeners, how often should they be posting?

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Well, here's the deal. I mean, I feel like in

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a perfect world, daily is best. I know I've learned

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from what we do with Petra Tools, Petra Max and

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Beast. I mean, we post five times a day. Two

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reels go public and three reels go trial. And

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here's what I'll tell the guys that may worry

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about posting or they may feel some kind of way

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around it. They don't maybe want people to see

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what they're posting initially. Put it on trial.

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If you're on a business account, you can post

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a reel. You can put it on a trial basis. It will

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not show it to your audience. So it actually

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shows it to anybody who doesn't follow you to

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see what type of traction it gets. And then if

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it picks up and it's got good traction, then

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you can post it publicly to your page so that

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everybody can see it. So I think that's also

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a good rule of thumb is And most of these guys,

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like I said, they're doing the work anyways.

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So even if they do something as simple as post

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a before and an after, so say they don't want

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to be on camera, even if they're able to do something

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as simple as pan the area before, pan the area

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after, put it together in cap cut or in shot,

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in shot is what I prefer to use. I know a lot

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of people use cap cut. Those are super easy,

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really, really easy programs to be able to use.

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and you can do it right on your phone. Or you

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can even do it right in platform. So you could

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just go into Instagram or Facebook and post a

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reel and import those two clips, put the text

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overlay on a before and an after. And put it

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up, people love before and afters, they love

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ASMR videos, and they love time lapses. Those

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are the three. And I think that's because of

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our inability to focus on anything now. As Americans,

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we're just constantly like, there's so much to

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absorb at all times. So some of that type of

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content performs really well because it captures

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the attention quickly. The other great piece

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of advice I can give to them is learning about

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hooks. And right now we live in this beautiful

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age of AI where you can go into AI and you can

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say, give me three hooks for a hardscaping project

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that had this issue, this issue, and this issue.

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What should I say for a reel on Instagram? And

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click Enter and it will give you all the information

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you need. So then it will give you the hooks

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because a hook is the first one to three seconds

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of your reel has to be what grabs people. And

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that's why those other things I mentioned work

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really well, because initially, the time lapse

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is moving so fast, you grab the interest of someone.

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So for these guys that are doing leaves, that

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are doing pavers, that are doing things where

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they're going to go in and do a big cleanup,

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put the tripod up, put it on time lapse, and

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just post that. And you'll probably pick up a

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good amount of viewership. So what we're doing

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right now, what we noticed in the last year,

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yes, we had 900 million views. That's a lot of

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views. but we didn't really capture the followers.

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So when I came in, we sat down, we kind of looked

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through everything and we said, that tells me

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that we're not connecting with people well enough,

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that we're not something that they feel some

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sort of connection or need or desire to have

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to be with us, to follow us, right? So that's

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when we came up with the plan for 2026. The plan

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is projects and storytelling. If you don't have

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a project or you don't have storytelling, That's

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not going to work for us. The days of just spraying

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rocks with glue and showing hands going over

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it are over. It has to be something that engages.

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So for instance, our Beast USA page, if you've

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got any guys that are listening that in the off

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season, they're doing any kind of building or

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contractor work, things like that, this is an

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amazing, it's a very viral spray foam. It's a

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DIY spray foam kit. We, what we have done in

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just the last few months has been incredible.

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We have multiple reels that have hit well into

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the millions and people love seeing the projects.

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They love seeing an animal barn, a duck house,

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a golf simulator, a DIY golf simulator, DIY built

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sauna. basement fixes, attics, you name it. Those

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projects are on there. And so we are engaging

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with all these amazing creators that have the

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project. So, hey, I'm going to turn my old shed

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into my home office, into a home office on my

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property. And we're going to insulate it today

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with Beast DIY spray foam. You see what I'm saying?

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So you're talking about the pain points of what's

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going on. I need to keep this space warm. I'm

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going to do it with this product. Let me show

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you how the before, the after, boom, there you

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go. There's something. So now when you go on

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our beast page, one of the main headers says

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that we're the home of unique DIY insulation

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projects. So people are starting to follow now

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in the past two months, we've had almost 3000

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followers and that happens because people are

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now feeling a connection to this page where we're

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going to teach them how to do something. We're

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going to show you cool projects and then we're

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going to show you the people doing it and how

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to get it done. So if you can translate that

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now, our goal is to pivot and translate that

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for season coming up to be able to do that with

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petro tools and petromax. So how do we do that

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with sprayers? How do we do that with mulch and

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rock glue? How do we do that with grass paints?

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How do we do that with mulch dyes? Those kind

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of things. What are the pain points? So for someone

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who's filming in this business, they're going

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to go to a client's yard and the client, they

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may be putting down all, you know, $2 ,000 worth

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of fresh mulch. Well, the client says, well,

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my mulch runs, you know, the wind hits it or

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the dogs run through here. The kids are playing

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basketball here. my mulch goes everywhere. That

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is an opportunity for us. That's when you call

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me and you say, hey, Melissa, I got a client.

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We're going to do this mulch installation. I

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need something to keep the mulch in place. We

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will send you free products. You will film for

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us. We will negotiate a rate that is fair for

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everybody. You will submit that back to us. It

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will show the pain point of this person having

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thousands of dollars put down in their yard.

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You being able to spray it with 100 % biodegradable,

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non -toxic, permeable, mulch glue, keep it in

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place. They're able to show the before and after,

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how they've solved the problem. They can upsell

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the product to their customer that they got for

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free from us and everybody's happy, right? We're

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getting the content and the story that we needed.

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They're fixing their problems with their customer

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and they're already doing the business. All they

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did was set up a tripod and take a couple clips

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on doing it. And I can testify to the fact that

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their mulch glue works amazing. I'd done a mulch

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job and there was a sidewalk that was leading

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up to the front porch. On both sides there's

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mulch and they said the mulch is coming out onto

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the sidewalk. So I said, I got just what you

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need. I got some mulch glue, we'll spray the

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mulch and you won't have that issue anymore.

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So I sprayed it. I waited about three weeks and

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I called them back and said, Hey, it's Andy,

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professional on maintenance. Just checking in

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on your mulch around your sidewalk. They said

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that problem has been eliminated. So encourage

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our listeners, better tools, get their mulch

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glue. It works. I can verify that. Absolutely

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and the rock glue works amazing too. I mean it's

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one of those things I apply it I put it down

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a couple times a year it depends on what method

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you use you know if you're spraying it it will

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it will loosen up a little bit quicker than using

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a bucket method if you're using a small area

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and you put the mulch in there into a bucket

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Put the glue in and mix it and then apply it.

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It will stay for over 12 months I've got it right

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in my front yard. It gets hit with basketballs.

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It gets rained on it gets wind It gets all those

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things and it is in perfect condition I have

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not lost the mulch and that's what really used

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to bother me I mean I have to bring in 20 yards

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of mulch to mulch my property I mean it is thousands

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of dollars just in mulch It's about two months

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of time for me to do it myself And so I was tired

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of this happening. And so what's even more beautiful

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about it? This is an upsell to anyone who has

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trees on their property. My property is heavily

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treed. The guys would come in and do the leaf

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removal and I'd have dirt everywhere. They would

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blow every piece of mulch out of my beds. Now

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I've got it all locked in. I've sprayed, like

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I said, I do it a couple of times a year. I'll

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spray those areas where I've got the beds that

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I know the leaves are gonna come. And we've got

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the videos. I mean, you can blow it right off

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the top. The leaves blow right off the top of

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the mulch and your mulch stays in place. It's

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beautiful. And the other thing too, it is permeable.

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It will allow water and nutrients to get to the

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soil. It is 100 % biodegradable, 100 % non -toxic.

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It is safe. Where there's a lot of our competitors

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that are being made in China, they're selling

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on Amazon, they've got VOCs, they've got all

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these other things. Ours is tried, true, tested.

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It is 100 % safe. And it works great in pea gravel

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too. Yes, it does. Absolutely. I did a job in

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my city where they had some steps going down

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and they had pea gravel. down both sides of the

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steps. And it was the same story, pea gravel

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getting all out over the sidewalk because of

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dogs and kids running through it and playing.

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So I said, let me try this. This was the first

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job I ever used your glue on. I said, let me

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try this and see. I've never used this product.

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I want to test it. I want to see if it works.

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And so I sprayed it. And same thing, I called

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him later. And same story. It works great. We're

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not having that issue anymore. So it does work.

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And I encourage you to reach out to Petro Tools

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and get some of the glue, test it and try it

00:22:25.940 --> 00:22:31.859
and prove us correct that it works as it has

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been described. We're going to take a short break

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we run the office. And we're back with Melissa

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Johnson, the Director of Marketing for Petra

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Tools. Melissa, what brands in the green industry?

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What do they look for when deciding to work with

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someone like me or one of our listeners? Is there

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anything specifically that they are looking for?

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I mean ideally like I said, I like to work with

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people that when I the first thing I do when

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I'm searching so we have access to different

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platforms like upfluence and Places like that

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that you can go and register for an account put

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what type of business you're in and any any companies

00:23:52.009 --> 00:23:54.750
like us that are gonna You know rep a product

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we can put a campaign out But the issue that

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I found is that a lot of these guys and crews

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they don't use things like that so they're not

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looking for campaigns again maybe it's in the

00:24:06.150 --> 00:24:09.349
weeds maybe it's not knowing about it so I find

00:24:09.349 --> 00:24:12.470
that I have to actually manually search for these

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accounts so me and my team We'll go in through

00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:18.539
my Instagram account. My Instagram account is

00:24:18.539 --> 00:24:20.420
FancyFlowerFarmer. So if anybody ever gets a

00:24:20.420 --> 00:24:22.400
message from FancyFlowerFarmer, it's me asking

00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:25.440
you to make videos for us. And then we also use

00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:28.839
Built Solid Talent, which is a small agency that

00:24:28.839 --> 00:24:32.759
we created that we blast out different opportunities

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and different things to help recruit from social

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media. And we also put those things out on our

00:24:38.359 --> 00:24:41.440
pages as well, Petra Tools, Petra Max, and Beast.

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What I'm looking for when I look into someone's

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page the first thing I do I obviously look at

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a follower count and I look at Their their reels.

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I mean I'll start going through the reels Looking

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do they have their face and anything like that's

00:24:55.519 --> 00:24:57.599
kind of important for us guys I mean we got to

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have the faces on things another thing too. I

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would like to really know as I'm doing this I

00:25:02.829 --> 00:25:05.210
cannot tell you how many pages I come up across.

00:25:05.309 --> 00:25:08.109
There is no contact information. I don't know

00:25:08.109 --> 00:25:11.069
where they're located. I don't know what the

00:25:11.069 --> 00:25:15.170
email is. Guys, you can add an email link to

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your Instagram pages, to your Facebook, where

00:25:17.309 --> 00:25:20.490
people can immediately contact you. I strongly

00:25:20.490 --> 00:25:22.930
suggest putting your city in your state so that

00:25:22.930 --> 00:25:25.089
if someone's looking, they come across your page

00:25:25.089 --> 00:25:26.670
and see you're doing great work. Oh, you're in

00:25:26.670 --> 00:25:28.430
Youngstown, Ohio. Oh, you're in Kansas City,

00:25:28.509 --> 00:25:31.049
Missouri. They can call you and actually, you

00:25:31.049 --> 00:25:33.910
can get clients that way too. Or some of these

00:25:33.910 --> 00:25:36.869
guys have it where it's set to no contact. So

00:25:36.869 --> 00:25:39.769
unless... you're approved by them or following

00:25:39.769 --> 00:25:41.750
them and they're following you, you can't even

00:25:41.750 --> 00:25:43.630
contact them. So sometimes these guys are losing

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out on opportunities simply because their page

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is not open to allow people to message them.

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So that's definitely something I think people

00:25:50.109 --> 00:25:52.609
should check into because it's happened over

00:25:52.609 --> 00:25:54.250
and over again. I see people that I'm like, oh,

00:25:54.250 --> 00:25:55.910
this is great. I would have paid this guy 500

00:25:55.910 --> 00:25:58.650
bucks for a reel and I can't get ahold of them.

00:25:58.690 --> 00:26:00.990
So that's definitely something to note. But so

00:26:00.990 --> 00:26:02.329
that's what I do is I'll look through all their

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content. I look at the way they can engage with

00:26:04.690 --> 00:26:07.470
the camera. Do they have some kind of personality?

00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:10.099
Style are they serious and are they authoritative

00:26:10.099 --> 00:26:13.980
or are they funny and engaging? So really and

00:26:13.980 --> 00:26:16.640
I want it all right I want all I want the whole

00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:20.920
variety of people on our page. I want every Type

00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:24.279
of job I want every type of personality because

00:26:24.279 --> 00:26:26.799
that is what I think will be best for our pages

00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:30.460
is to have Just this like nice group of people

00:26:30.460 --> 00:26:32.680
and and repeat people by the way. I'm not looking

00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:34.420
to work with me I'm not looking to try and have

00:26:34.420 --> 00:26:36.769
to hit the streets and find people all day every

00:26:36.769 --> 00:26:39.089
day. That's not what I'm trying to do. I want

00:26:39.089 --> 00:26:42.410
to work with a group of 50 guys and girls that

00:26:42.410 --> 00:26:46.150
I can rely on. I know they're going to create

00:26:46.150 --> 00:26:48.069
the content I need. They're going to upload it

00:26:48.069 --> 00:26:49.589
as they've been asked to do. They're going to

00:26:49.589 --> 00:26:52.150
collaborate it back with us so that we get those

00:26:52.150 --> 00:26:55.829
views and they get the views. They're going to

00:26:55.829 --> 00:26:58.690
give me the proper B -roll that I need. That's

00:26:58.690 --> 00:27:01.880
another big part of our negotiation. Say we have

00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:04.759
a guy that's a smaller creator. Say he makes

00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:06.759
a video for us, and this has happened time and

00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:09.000
time again. They make a video, they post it on

00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:10.980
their page, and they only have 1 ,000 followers.

00:27:11.299 --> 00:27:16.180
So they may only get 1 ,000 views on their content.

00:27:16.579 --> 00:27:18.960
What we ask of every single creator is that when

00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:21.240
they film, they give us all of the footage that

00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:25.200
went into making that finished reel. So we provide

00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:28.170
them with a folder. They go in, they load the

00:27:28.170 --> 00:27:30.809
files, and they provide all the b -rolls. That's

00:27:30.809 --> 00:27:33.589
the b -roll. All the subsequent video that went

00:27:33.589 --> 00:27:37.130
into making it with your speaking video is your

00:27:37.130 --> 00:27:39.089
a -roll. And then everything that's showing what

00:27:39.089 --> 00:27:40.329
you're doing, those kind of things, those are

00:27:40.329 --> 00:27:41.990
all your b -rolls. We're going to ask that everybody

00:27:41.990 --> 00:27:44.250
load those together. Because what happens, the

00:27:44.250 --> 00:27:46.670
magic of what happens, is that on some of these

00:27:46.670 --> 00:27:49.549
smaller pages, they may only get 1 ,000 views.

00:27:49.650 --> 00:27:53.000
And it may not perform, right? What we do is

00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:54.819
we take it and we give it to our professional

00:27:54.819 --> 00:27:57.960
editing team. I've got an entire team of script

00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:01.000
writers, an entire team of social media strategists,

00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:03.900
an entire team of editors. And these people eat,

00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:05.839
breathe, and sleep social media. This is all

00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:07.400
they care about. This is all they think about.

00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:10.599
And so that's why our socials have done so well.

00:28:10.660 --> 00:28:13.829
So then what we do is we send it. I call my guys

00:28:13.829 --> 00:28:16.829
up. I say, hey, we got reels in from Andy. He's

00:28:16.829 --> 00:28:19.190
ready. His stuff is there. They'll go into your

00:28:19.190 --> 00:28:22.390
folder, and they start magically wizardry all

00:28:22.390 --> 00:28:24.569
their things. They'll whip up these crazy posts.

00:28:24.829 --> 00:28:26.990
They know exactly what to do. They know exactly

00:28:26.990 --> 00:28:29.250
what captions. We have data scientists that are

00:28:29.250 --> 00:28:31.369
behind all this stuff. They know exactly what

00:28:31.369 --> 00:28:33.609
to do to try to make this go viral, and then

00:28:33.609 --> 00:28:36.369
they post it. And then we will collaborate it

00:28:36.369 --> 00:28:38.589
back with you. So we'll post it on our end, where

00:28:38.589 --> 00:28:41.529
we've already got 50 ,000 to 90 ,000 followers

00:28:41.529 --> 00:28:44.589
on some of our pages and then it takes off, right?

00:28:44.789 --> 00:28:47.009
And so then that's the beauty in it. I've got

00:28:47.009 --> 00:28:49.170
some people that have no social media presence

00:28:49.170 --> 00:28:51.829
whatsoever. And we've got a real on beast right

00:28:51.829 --> 00:28:54.849
now that just hit 4 .2 million views from our

00:28:54.849 --> 00:28:58.529
remix. So that's how that stuff works. I've got

00:28:58.529 --> 00:29:01.049
another guy, Dayton Hardwood. He did some spray

00:29:01.049 --> 00:29:04.420
foam stuff for us. He put that up and he hit

00:29:04.420 --> 00:29:06.319
over a million. I think he's almost at two million

00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:08.960
views right now in the last two weeks. I talked

00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:10.299
to him the other day. He said, yep, I picked

00:29:10.299 --> 00:29:12.700
up 250 followers from that. They're still coming

00:29:12.700 --> 00:29:16.740
in regularly. And so again, this is the opportunity.

00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:19.220
It's kind of like. Trying to figure out ways

00:29:19.220 --> 00:29:21.440
that we can kind of scratch each other's backs,

00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:23.980
right? It's a hard world out there Everybody's

00:29:23.980 --> 00:29:26.339
trying to just you know up their business up

00:29:26.339 --> 00:29:28.240
their game And so we're trying to do the same

00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:30.180
thing in a different way But we can rely on each

00:29:30.180 --> 00:29:33.299
other in these relationships so that we can make

00:29:33.299 --> 00:29:35.240
this a little bit easier Trying to win in this

00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:40.180
social media game What mistakes do you see people

00:29:40.180 --> 00:29:45.619
make when DMing or emailing brands to try to

00:29:45.619 --> 00:29:49.380
make a connection? Well again, I would highly

00:29:49.380 --> 00:29:51.440
suggest if you're a person that is not a good

00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:53.680
writer right or you might struggle figuring it

00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:57.359
out What to say put it into AI go to chat GPT.

00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:01.059
I'm gonna email Petra tools This is what I do.

00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:02.819
And just even if you're not, you know what I

00:30:02.819 --> 00:30:05.299
mean? Just put it all in the chat, right? It's

00:30:05.299 --> 00:30:07.359
not asking you for proper spelling or punctuation

00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:09.400
or any of that. Put all the details you can into

00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:12.299
the chat. Say, make me something that's appropriate

00:30:12.299 --> 00:30:15.319
to send to a DM. And it will populate that for

00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:17.140
you. You can look at it. You can cut and copy

00:30:17.140 --> 00:30:19.259
that. Or what I highly recommend is that you

00:30:19.259 --> 00:30:22.960
take whatever. AI does give you. And as a human

00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:25.380
being, go through it and kind of edit it and

00:30:25.380 --> 00:30:27.759
make it sound how you need it to sound. But that

00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:30.420
can help you perfectly curate your ideas if you're

00:30:30.420 --> 00:30:32.480
not a good writer or if you're not a marketer

00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:34.519
to be able to approach some of these brands with

00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:36.759
opportunities that you have. Reach out to the

00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:40.259
brands. Send the DMs. Send the DMs. Send the

00:30:40.259 --> 00:30:42.980
emails. We have people that contact us regularly

00:30:42.980 --> 00:30:45.339
through our customer service line just saying,

00:30:45.740 --> 00:30:50.930
hey, I'm Joe and Wichita, Kansas, and I own a

00:30:50.930 --> 00:30:53.170
lawn mowing business. Are there any opportunities?

00:30:53.390 --> 00:30:55.150
The customer service team sends those to me,

00:30:55.450 --> 00:30:58.950
and immediately we contact Joe, find out what

00:30:58.950 --> 00:31:00.349
he's got going on. Because that's going to be

00:31:00.349 --> 00:31:02.170
my first question for you. What kind of projects

00:31:02.170 --> 00:31:04.509
you got going on? What kind of stories can you

00:31:04.509 --> 00:31:06.769
tell? So if you've got those things going on,

00:31:07.069 --> 00:31:10.890
there's work to be had everywhere. Follow the

00:31:10.890 --> 00:31:12.490
brands. Make sure you're following all these

00:31:12.490 --> 00:31:14.730
brands. Make sure that you are engaging with

00:31:14.730 --> 00:31:17.980
them. That is the best way. I mean, that's how

00:31:17.980 --> 00:31:20.180
it happened with me with Petra Tools. I was following

00:31:20.180 --> 00:31:22.660
Petra Tools. I engaged with the post, and then

00:31:22.660 --> 00:31:24.180
it was a, hey, would you like to make a video

00:31:24.180 --> 00:31:28.200
for us? If there's someone out there that doesn't

00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:31.319
have any brand collaborations going on right

00:31:31.319 --> 00:31:34.839
now, and they want to try to start getting the

00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:39.579
attention of a brand, do you recommend if they're

00:31:39.579 --> 00:31:45.819
using Steel or Echo or grasshopper mowers or

00:31:45.819 --> 00:31:52.099
toro mowers tag them in their post abs every

00:31:52.099 --> 00:31:56.920
single time every time you mow every time you

00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:00.700
use the steel trimmers anytime you do any of

00:32:00.700 --> 00:32:03.470
those things Tag them and collaborate them. The

00:32:03.470 --> 00:32:05.029
worst thing that could happen is they're not

00:32:05.029 --> 00:32:06.710
going to accept your collaboration. And you should

00:32:06.710 --> 00:32:08.390
know that's probably going to happen. But if

00:32:08.390 --> 00:32:11.410
you start making some great reels and you learn

00:32:11.410 --> 00:32:13.950
how to do it, there's a chance they may collaborate

00:32:13.950 --> 00:32:15.329
it back with you. You know what I mean? These

00:32:15.329 --> 00:32:18.730
brands may collaborate back. People love the

00:32:18.730 --> 00:32:21.910
stories of the hustle. You know what I mean?

00:32:22.410 --> 00:32:25.549
These brands appreciate that, right? They know

00:32:25.549 --> 00:32:28.289
the same things. Our products, my products are

00:32:28.289 --> 00:32:30.710
not going out and just going to sit in the driveway

00:32:30.710 --> 00:32:32.750
and look pretty. They need to be applied. They

00:32:32.750 --> 00:32:34.750
need to be worked. They need to be, there's effort

00:32:34.750 --> 00:32:36.309
that goes into all of those things. The lawn

00:32:36.309 --> 00:32:39.730
mowers, effort. Steel or skag mowers. I have

00:32:39.730 --> 00:32:42.849
a skag. I love skags. Every time I run my skag

00:32:42.849 --> 00:32:45.089
and I get beautiful stripes through the lawn,

00:32:45.789 --> 00:32:50.200
I put it, I take a pan out. post it, tags gag.

00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:52.380
You know what I mean? All the time. So, and that's

00:32:52.380 --> 00:32:55.240
a great way of just getting your, you know, and

00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:57.619
that goes back and also into affiliates. There's

00:32:57.619 --> 00:33:01.359
a huge other engine. So, what I do is UGC. It's

00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:03.259
user generated content, right? That's guys going

00:33:03.259 --> 00:33:05.420
out just making their own videos, like posting

00:33:05.420 --> 00:33:07.549
them to socials, doing that kind of thing. There's

00:33:07.549 --> 00:33:09.470
also the whole world of the affiliates, you know,

00:33:09.470 --> 00:33:11.589
when you're an affiliate for someone then you

00:33:11.589 --> 00:33:14.009
are working inside like kind of in behind the

00:33:14.009 --> 00:33:15.990
scenes They're giving you a link and anything

00:33:15.990 --> 00:33:18.470
that you sell you earn commissions on those links

00:33:18.470 --> 00:33:20.009
So when guys are coming us and they're working

00:33:20.009 --> 00:33:22.069
with the sprayers The first thing we do now is

00:33:22.069 --> 00:33:24.049
offer everybody the opportunity to be an affiliate

00:33:24.539 --> 00:33:26.420
So you can sell this stuff if you want to. If

00:33:26.420 --> 00:33:27.880
you don't want to, that's great. But I think

00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:31.200
it's at your loss if you don't. Because you'll

00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:33.460
get this link. All you have to do is post it

00:33:33.460 --> 00:33:36.019
in your link tree or your link library. That's

00:33:36.019 --> 00:33:38.279
another great piece of information I like to

00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:40.579
give people. Make sure that you have a link library.

00:33:40.819 --> 00:33:43.720
So when you tell people, click the link in bio,

00:33:44.140 --> 00:33:47.039
that link in bio should go to some type of link

00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:48.720
library, which holds all the different links.

00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:51.319
Otherwise, you only have one shot in that one

00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:53.809
spot. to put one link, right? And most of the

00:33:53.809 --> 00:33:55.569
time, it's gonna be something like a website

00:33:55.569 --> 00:33:57.809
or something like that. So if you click, there's

00:33:57.809 --> 00:34:01.109
different, I use Linktree, there's LTK, there's

00:34:01.109 --> 00:34:03.210
lots of different link libraries that you can

00:34:03.210 --> 00:34:05.930
go to. So when you click on that bio, it will

00:34:05.930 --> 00:34:08.530
then take you to the Linktree that has all the

00:34:08.530 --> 00:34:10.070
different links that I'd like to promote. So

00:34:10.070 --> 00:34:13.469
I have a whole section on my Instagram that shows

00:34:13.469 --> 00:34:16.210
Petra Tools, Petra Max, all the different things.

00:34:16.570 --> 00:34:18.650
I can put a picture of the, this is all very

00:34:18.650 --> 00:34:20.610
easy stuff to do, guys. It's not difficult, I

00:34:20.610 --> 00:34:23.619
promise. You just have to do it. I think that's

00:34:23.619 --> 00:34:25.519
the biggest thing for all of us in anything,

00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:27.940
no matter what it is you're dealing with. Just

00:34:27.940 --> 00:34:30.000
do it. If you're worried about planting a plant

00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:31.039
in the ground because you don't know if it's

00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:32.300
going to be in the right spot, that's what all

00:34:32.300 --> 00:34:34.380
my girlfriends say to me all the time. I'm so

00:34:34.380 --> 00:34:35.739
scared to plant a plant. I don't want to put

00:34:35.739 --> 00:34:37.900
it in the wrong spot. I'm like, put the plant

00:34:37.900 --> 00:34:40.739
in the ground. Put it in the ground. You'll learn.

00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:43.059
You'll learn by trial and error. You'll learn

00:34:43.059 --> 00:34:46.809
by doing it. And so to your point, What I would

00:34:46.809 --> 00:34:48.670
recommend people do is as they're using, and

00:34:48.670 --> 00:34:50.889
I've got a perfect example of it, guys, go to

00:34:50.889 --> 00:34:53.550
Fancy Flower Farmer on Instagram, click the link

00:34:53.550 --> 00:34:55.769
in my bio, and you will see exactly what I'm

00:34:55.769 --> 00:34:57.789
talking about. I'm gonna talk about all the steel

00:34:57.789 --> 00:34:59.730
products that I've used, all the things that

00:34:59.730 --> 00:35:01.670
I've ever, like all the things that I use. I

00:35:01.670 --> 00:35:04.289
make a link for them, you link the link to it,

00:35:04.389 --> 00:35:06.809
and then eventually you can start linking the

00:35:06.809 --> 00:35:08.969
affiliate stuff, which then every single time,

00:35:09.010 --> 00:35:11.690
so if someone sees you use a Petra Tools battery

00:35:11.690 --> 00:35:13.789
-operated backpack sprayer, the number one backpack

00:35:13.789 --> 00:35:15.389
sprayer in the country, you can check chat to

00:35:15.389 --> 00:35:18.480
be... it'll tell you. Use that backpack sprayer

00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:20.739
and then the guys are watching you say, man I

00:35:20.739 --> 00:35:22.519
need to get that backpack sprayer. So then they

00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:24.280
go and they click in your link tree and they

00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:26.179
click on the link to go buy it. They buy the

00:35:26.179 --> 00:35:29.619
$200 sprayer and you get a $20 check. I mean,

00:35:29.699 --> 00:35:32.079
it's that simple. So that's a whole other revenue

00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:34.980
stream that as these guys are building. That's,

00:35:34.980 --> 00:35:36.739
I guess, the main message I want to put out to

00:35:36.739 --> 00:35:39.460
your people today is the guys that are the smaller

00:35:39.460 --> 00:35:43.219
guys, I don't ever want them to feel like they've

00:35:43.219 --> 00:35:45.260
already lost in the race because everybody else

00:35:45.260 --> 00:35:47.960
is already doing these things. Now is your time.

00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:50.679
Now is your time. We are coming up on a fresh

00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:53.380
new season. Start to get some of these things

00:35:53.380 --> 00:35:56.280
in order keep these things top of mind of DMing

00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:58.500
with the brands working with the deals putting

00:35:58.500 --> 00:36:01.820
the content out Tagging doing all of those things

00:36:01.820 --> 00:36:03.659
by the end of this season. You could have 20

00:36:03.659 --> 00:36:05.940
,000 followers by the end of this season and

00:36:05.940 --> 00:36:08.739
be really into something great. And for the younger

00:36:08.739 --> 00:36:11.659
guys specifically, we've got guys right now that

00:36:11.659 --> 00:36:14.260
we are working with that are unbelievable. We've

00:36:14.260 --> 00:36:17.719
got 14 year old boys that are out doing pressure

00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:21.039
washing companies and hanging lights, McLean

00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:23.940
Power Washing. Look him up. The kid is unbelievable.

00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:25.559
We just met with him. We just sent him a bunch

00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:28.659
of our sprayers for power washing. People love

00:36:28.659 --> 00:36:31.880
these stories. So if you're a young guy and you're,

00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:35.219
you know, high school, college -aged, or just

00:36:35.219 --> 00:36:36.960
out of college, and you're thinking about starting

00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:40.099
a landscaping business, now is the time. Start

00:36:40.099 --> 00:36:42.780
it. Capitalize on the fact that people want to

00:36:42.780 --> 00:36:45.320
see these young kids succeeding, hustling and

00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:47.460
succeeding, and capitalize on that. Set goals

00:36:47.460 --> 00:36:49.000
for yourself. That's another thing, too. One

00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:51.159
of the reasons that Henry McLean has done so

00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:53.079
well with his page. He started that page and

00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:56.460
said, can I make $25 ,000 this summer doing landscaping?

00:36:56.599 --> 00:36:59.019
Or doing, I'm sorry, power washing. He went door

00:36:59.019 --> 00:37:01.019
to door, videoed himself going door to door.

00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:03.340
videoed himself doing all the prep work and all

00:37:03.340 --> 00:37:06.960
the things. And he hit $25 ,000 before December.

00:37:07.260 --> 00:37:08.440
You know, he had to move into a couple of different

00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:10.800
things, but he's 14 years old. So can you imagine

00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:12.480
what someone who's able to do this full time

00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:16.659
can do? Document every step of the way. Document

00:37:16.659 --> 00:37:21.340
everything. That is so good. And I can tell you

00:37:21.340 --> 00:37:25.519
from personal experience, tagging brands works

00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:29.199
because I run grasshopper mowers because I have

00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:33.070
a grasshopper dealer. three miles from my shop.

00:37:35.070 --> 00:37:39.530
All mowers make tall grass short, but I went

00:37:39.530 --> 00:37:42.650
with Grasshopper for customer support, dealer

00:37:42.650 --> 00:37:47.429
support, and I just started tagging Grasshopper

00:37:47.429 --> 00:37:52.130
on my post. One day I'm pulling in to get some

00:37:52.130 --> 00:37:56.230
gas at our local convenience store here in my

00:37:56.230 --> 00:38:00.570
city. My phone rang. I answered the phone the

00:38:00.570 --> 00:38:05.050
guy introduced himself as a marketing director

00:38:05.050 --> 00:38:09.030
for grasshopper mowers and Wanted to know if

00:38:09.030 --> 00:38:13.050
I would be interested in becoming a brand ambassador

00:38:13.050 --> 00:38:16.969
First thought to come to my mind. This is a scam

00:38:16.969 --> 00:38:21.730
So I said well, let me think about it. So the

00:38:21.730 --> 00:38:26.550
next morning I get up and I call Grasshopper

00:38:26.550 --> 00:38:30.369
mowers and I said this guy Told him his name.

00:38:30.710 --> 00:38:33.110
Said he's a marketing director for Grasshopper

00:38:33.110 --> 00:38:36.469
Mowers. And he's in charge of your social media.

00:38:37.030 --> 00:38:38.610
And he called me and asked me if I wanted to

00:38:38.610 --> 00:38:42.110
be a brand ambassador. I'm calling because I

00:38:42.110 --> 00:38:45.510
don't know if this is a scam or not. She said,

00:38:45.530 --> 00:38:47.289
oh no, he's standing right here. Do you want

00:38:47.289 --> 00:38:52.309
to talk to him? So I became a Grasshopper Mowers

00:38:52.309 --> 00:38:56.809
ambassador. They flew me to Florida. film me

00:38:56.809 --> 00:39:01.090
mowing a four million dollar property made commercials

00:39:01.090 --> 00:39:06.050
out of the the content all because I started

00:39:06.050 --> 00:39:09.769
tagging grasshopper mowers I would have never

00:39:09.769 --> 00:39:13.869
had that opportunity ever no matter how good

00:39:13.869 --> 00:39:18.050
I can mow no matter how good I am people want

00:39:18.050 --> 00:39:22.280
to see real things yes real people so When you

00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:24.619
guys are doing your work, your real jobs with

00:39:24.619 --> 00:39:27.820
real clients, people want to see that. The brands

00:39:27.820 --> 00:39:31.519
want to see authenticity in how their products

00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:34.860
are being used. And so that is gold. That is

00:39:34.860 --> 00:39:38.440
absolute gold to a brand to see people actually

00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:40.400
using your product. And it's not a commercial.

00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:43.800
It's not a staged anything. It's real life. And

00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:47.079
people love seeing that. So if you go to Grasshoppermower's

00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:52.599
Instagram page, a lot of those videos. are me

00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:55.179
mowing on my grasshopper mower? I'm definitely

00:39:55.179 --> 00:39:57.619
going to check that out. Check it out. Grasshopper

00:39:57.619 --> 00:40:05.780
mowers. Do multiple platforms such as a podcast,

00:40:06.059 --> 00:40:08.860
social media, whether it's Facebook, TikTok,

00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:16.860
Instagram, LinkedIn, do they increase your value

00:40:16.860 --> 00:40:21.250
to brands? That's a great question. That's a

00:40:21.250 --> 00:40:27.050
great question. When you're a smaller presence,

00:40:27.570 --> 00:40:30.849
probably not as much, but as you grow and you

00:40:30.849 --> 00:40:34.369
have 80 ,000 followers on this one and 200 ,000

00:40:34.369 --> 00:40:36.429
followers on this one and it's stretched out,

00:40:37.030 --> 00:40:39.590
the deals become more lucrative because there's

00:40:39.590 --> 00:40:43.329
a price to pay for all of those audiences. When

00:40:43.329 --> 00:40:46.409
you're smaller, it's a great idea to make sure

00:40:46.409 --> 00:40:49.730
that you are taking the time to set those audiences

00:40:49.730 --> 00:40:52.010
up, so making sure that you're going into LinkedIn,

00:40:52.389 --> 00:40:55.690
that you're doing Facebook, TikTok, YouTube,

00:40:56.630 --> 00:40:59.789
Instagram, all of those are a must, setting up

00:40:59.789 --> 00:41:02.130
at least those four. So you've got all of those

00:41:02.130 --> 00:41:04.329
things set up, and then you continue to make

00:41:04.329 --> 00:41:06.610
sure that you're posting. on all of them which

00:41:06.610 --> 00:41:08.929
can be cumbersome you know but on youtube you

00:41:08.929 --> 00:41:10.690
can do youtube shorts so you're still keeping

00:41:10.690 --> 00:41:13.050
vertical and then it's kind of consistency across

00:41:13.050 --> 00:41:14.570
the board because that used to be a big hang

00:41:14.570 --> 00:41:16.769
up for a lot of people posting on youtube because

00:41:16.769 --> 00:41:18.889
it was horizontal only and so then you're taking

00:41:18.889 --> 00:41:20.889
verticals you can't stretch that out so it was

00:41:20.889 --> 00:41:22.809
like a big thing now at least they have shorts

00:41:22.809 --> 00:41:24.710
you can throw it in the shorts and the shorts

00:41:24.710 --> 00:41:27.269
are great for like mind numbing you know, kind

00:41:27.269 --> 00:41:29.989
of videos to like showing, you know, an aerator

00:41:29.989 --> 00:41:32.070
in slow motion. You know what I mean? That's

00:41:32.070 --> 00:41:33.710
great. Showing the plugs flying up in the air

00:41:33.710 --> 00:41:35.469
everywhere. Perfect. Like that's the kind of

00:41:35.469 --> 00:41:37.050
stuff that, you know, is just like the brain

00:41:37.050 --> 00:41:40.289
numbing content. But yes, so to your question,

00:41:40.969 --> 00:41:43.690
the more that you can amass on each platform

00:41:43.690 --> 00:41:48.670
makes you overall more valuable. Well, I know

00:41:48.670 --> 00:41:51.849
the first time a brand reached out to me and

00:41:51.849 --> 00:41:56.280
asked me what my price was. I was intimidated

00:41:56.280 --> 00:42:01.039
because I had never given anybody a price. So

00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:05.219
what can you say to our listeners to bring calm

00:42:05.219 --> 00:42:09.380
to them when it comes to setting their price?

00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:13.659
Well, here's the deal. I mean, we're always from

00:42:13.659 --> 00:42:17.530
a brand perspective. We're always... down to

00:42:17.530 --> 00:42:20.449
negotiate. So like if you were saying, hey, well,

00:42:20.449 --> 00:42:22.690
this is what my price is. And to be honest with

00:42:22.690 --> 00:42:24.409
you, I haven't had too much trouble with that,

00:42:24.449 --> 00:42:26.829
I have to say. We've worked with, I mean, I've

00:42:26.829 --> 00:42:29.869
got 200 active jobs going on right now. And of

00:42:29.869 --> 00:42:32.110
all those jobs, I mean, there have been some

00:42:32.110 --> 00:42:34.030
that we've had to pass on because it just does

00:42:34.030 --> 00:42:36.050
not make sense for us to spend that kind of money

00:42:36.050 --> 00:42:39.150
with the level of engagement that they get back.

00:42:39.329 --> 00:42:41.610
And some of them have some of them have been

00:42:41.610 --> 00:42:43.789
pretty lucrative deals, and we've been able to

00:42:43.789 --> 00:42:47.250
work some things out. With us at least, I can

00:42:47.250 --> 00:42:50.269
tell you the intention is to make sure that it's

00:42:50.269 --> 00:42:54.289
a fair deal for what we can expect or forecast

00:42:54.289 --> 00:42:56.230
to be able to receive back from your brand. And

00:42:56.230 --> 00:42:59.650
like I said, take a chance with it because...

00:42:59.690 --> 00:43:02.710
If you create the content and if we post it and

00:43:02.710 --> 00:43:04.869
it does really well, then that only makes you

00:43:04.869 --> 00:43:06.710
valuable. But if from the get -go, you're like,

00:43:06.849 --> 00:43:09.489
oh, well, they're not going to pay me $500 or

00:43:09.489 --> 00:43:11.730
whatever it is when the engagement's not there.

00:43:11.929 --> 00:43:14.789
I can't pay $500 if someone's going to get 1

00:43:14.789 --> 00:43:17.590
,000 views and four likes. That's not worth that

00:43:17.590 --> 00:43:20.369
to us. But if you say, OK, well, she'll pay me

00:43:20.369 --> 00:43:22.769
$200. I'm going to make the reel. It's going

00:43:22.769 --> 00:43:25.030
to cover my time doing it. Let's post it and

00:43:25.030 --> 00:43:28.170
see what happens. at least start. So I would

00:43:28.170 --> 00:43:31.670
engage with the brands and prove your value,

00:43:31.670 --> 00:43:33.789
which is what I feel like I've done from the

00:43:33.789 --> 00:43:35.489
beginning. You know what I mean? And so I kind

00:43:35.489 --> 00:43:38.989
of look for the same level of work ethic and

00:43:38.989 --> 00:43:43.630
desire to create and the hustle that I gave to

00:43:43.630 --> 00:43:45.630
this business. That's exactly what I'm looking

00:43:45.630 --> 00:43:48.250
for because my efforts have been rewarded through

00:43:48.250 --> 00:43:50.969
the years working with this company. And I know

00:43:50.969 --> 00:43:53.650
that they will do that for anybody else. So that's

00:43:53.650 --> 00:43:55.369
the best advice I can give is to at least try.

00:43:55.679 --> 00:44:00.760
Great advice. If one of our listeners today is

00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:03.719
in the lawn care business and in the next, say,

00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:10.119
six to 12 months, they want to develop a relationship

00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:14.599
with a brand, what should they start focusing

00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:20.480
on right now to help them establish that brand

00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:25.719
relationship six to 12 months out? Well, I think

00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:27.699
that's a great question. And I think that goes

00:44:27.699 --> 00:44:30.639
back to looking and having a little bit of foresight

00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:32.880
as to what the season is going to hold for you

00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:36.900
and what products you have in your arsenal that

00:44:36.900 --> 00:44:40.000
you can do your tagging and do your great mentions

00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:43.159
and your call outs, or what products maybe you

00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:45.480
need to make an investment in if you want to

00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:49.340
be in a specific, if you want to be in a specific,

00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:52.119
with a specific brand. maybe you need to invest

00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:54.440
in some of their products to be able to then

00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:56.840
use those products in your videos and review

00:44:56.840 --> 00:44:59.219
them. Reviews are also great too. If you want

00:44:59.219 --> 00:45:01.880
to just post a video, post content, just giving

00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:05.380
reviews of how the product worked, what was great.

00:45:05.869 --> 00:45:08.210
what you loved about it. You know, that's also

00:45:08.210 --> 00:45:10.110
a great thing too, for any of these businesses

00:45:10.110 --> 00:45:12.469
to have just like more of a review instead of

00:45:12.469 --> 00:45:14.670
the use. I mean, obviously the use is great too,

00:45:14.710 --> 00:45:17.630
showing it in action, but even just giving reviews

00:45:17.630 --> 00:45:24.329
can be very, very powerful for a brand. Well,

00:45:24.329 --> 00:45:27.030
I appreciate you coming on the show today. You

00:45:27.030 --> 00:45:32.610
have given us some very actionable, powerful

00:45:32.610 --> 00:45:41.289
advice. guidelines to help us become more available

00:45:41.289 --> 00:45:46.429
for brands. And like we've said, you're already

00:45:46.429 --> 00:45:51.030
mowing, you're already installing mulch, you're

00:45:51.030 --> 00:45:56.809
already trimming bushes. Why not record yourself,

00:45:58.230 --> 00:46:04.519
tag the brand, and set yourself up for maybe

00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:08.559
some paid sponsorships or paid collaborations.

00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:13.360
It helps you financially and it helps the brand

00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:18.800
get their product out to more people. So I really

00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:23.659
appreciate you and I am excited to announce that

00:46:23.659 --> 00:46:26.880
I am going to be working with Petra Tools. We're

00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:31.519
going to be posting some content using their

00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:35.139
products. And it's going to be educational content.

00:46:35.420 --> 00:46:40.780
It's going to be experimental content where they

00:46:40.780 --> 00:46:45.940
see me working with their product. And I'm excited

00:46:45.940 --> 00:46:50.760
about it. And I believe that this show has been

00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:54.440
a success because Melissa Johnson was our guest.

00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:59.440
So I thank you for being a guest. I thank our

00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:05.090
listeners for tuning in today. And one last question,

00:47:05.789 --> 00:47:10.809
where can our listeners find you? So I you guys

00:47:10.809 --> 00:47:12.829
can get right in touch with me if people are

00:47:12.829 --> 00:47:16.329
ready to rock and roll right now Email me Melissa

00:47:16.329 --> 00:47:19.829
at Petra tools calm that will come straight to

00:47:19.829 --> 00:47:22.690
my inbox If you're looking for me on socials,

00:47:22.690 --> 00:47:25.909
you can find me personally on fancy flower farmer

00:47:25.909 --> 00:47:30.530
on Instagram Facebook And then I would highly

00:47:30.530 --> 00:47:32.869
recommend that you check out our products Petra

00:47:32.869 --> 00:47:38.010
tools petra tools Petra max so petra tools are

00:47:38.010 --> 00:47:41.139
all the sprayers petromax or all the liquid solutions

00:47:41.139 --> 00:47:44.920
and then we also have our super viral beast products

00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:48.880
that are B E E S T and we're all over social

00:47:48.880 --> 00:47:50.639
media so you just have to put those things in

00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:54.039
and you'll find our pages. All right until we

00:47:54.039 --> 00:47:57.840
talk again I wish you all nothing but happiness

00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:01.860
and success and remember the grass is always

00:48:01.860 --> 00:48:06.320
greener where you water it so Appreciate you

00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:09.659
being on the Lawn Hustle Podcast. God bless you.

00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:11.079
Thank you for having me.
