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Oh my gosh. Crazy Dre Podcast. That's amazing.

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Welcome to the Crazy Dre Podcast show. Ladies

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and gentlemen, boys and girls, I am back here,

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folks. Podcasting, vlogging, the whole bit. This

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is the Crazy Dre Podcast show. Crazy Crock, a

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.k .a. Andre's Podcast. Today's folks, I have

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guests. An old friend of mine, Mr. Movie, Mr.

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Michigan Movie himself. From Grand Rapids, Michigan.

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We're just going to call him Ken. Ken, how have

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you been? Doing pretty good. Not too bad. Not

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too bad. So we're going to talk about your movies,

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your time. Well, I guess we're just going to

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have people catch up with us about how we met

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at MC Sports. Right. An old sporting store in

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Grand Rapids no longer exists for other reasons

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than itself. And then. One year, you decided,

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you know what? I'm getting sick of this stuff.

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I'm just going to start making movies. How did

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that happen? Take us from the time that you decided

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that you're going to make movies. Well, there

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was a contest on TV where you could submit a

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movie short. So I worked on a movie short, submitted

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it. Never heard anything back, but I had so much

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fun doing it, I decided to keep on making movies.

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And then they say, but Trent is your sidekick.

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Yeah, the first one we did, Trent was the main

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character, and I am a hit -and -run victim. Boy,

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I just saw that again. Yeah, what is that, quandary?

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, then he just drags me off,

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leads me in a ditch, and bashes my head in or

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whatever. Yeah, yeah. You know what's great about

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that movie is that there's two characters in

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that movie. Your daughter. yes in the movie yeah

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and the other girl who's the other oh that's

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uh trent's daughter that's her yeah really yeah

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oh no way yeah because it's so funny to watch

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that part of that movie and you see his daughter

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and him look down and he's like and then he goes

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in his truck yeah which so it took you guys what

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how long does it usually take you to make a movie

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like that i think that one took us Just a few

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days. Okay. You know, it was a short. It had

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to meet a certain minute requirement for the

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contest. Yeah. But, yeah, it was just a few days.

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Okay. Okay. And then from that movie, what was

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your next project? The next one was Mr. Perfect,

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Michigan Made. Yeah. Went more to a crime drama

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kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. That one started off

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as a short, but then everybody liked it so much

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and they wanted to see more. I wrote more. and

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turn it into like an hour. Yeah. Yeah. Don't

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you have a two, two, uh, sections of that movie?

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Yeah. Yeah. I just kind of added on to the first

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section. Okay. Yeah. Okay. That's what I did.

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And then the actors, actresses who, who's on

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that, who's in all that movie. Oh, do you remember?

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We've got, you already agree. Uh -huh. And then,

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uh, Richard Raphael. Uh -huh. Got McGuire in

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it. Uh -huh. stephanie's in it wasn't you wasn't

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those two girls the ones by down the street and

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ionia and then they change into the outfit oh

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yeah that's you aria gray she came in from detroit

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yeah remember that i remember that yeah i remember

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that she brought her friends yeah make sure that

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we were on our just oh yeah creepy guys like

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yeah we just wanted to take a picture of your

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girls but yeah they came from detroit yep and

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they're actually in a spot where uh uh the market

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is yep and then they had to clean it up we used

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that spot and it was a good spot location underneath

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the bridge you know the dirty kind of greasy

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yeah they cleaned it up but that was one of my

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favorite spots to do a movie and just so in that

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movie tell us though um i guess we might may

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have a little spoiler report on it but tell us

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what that movie was really about mr perfect Mr.

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Perfect is about a teacher, and he is actually

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a serial killer. And he's, of course, doing what

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he does. And we have the detectives trying to

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catch up with him. But, of course, the detectives

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don't even think he's back killing because he's

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had such a long hiatus. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So

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there's a lot of like, is the Grand River Killer

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back? no so some of the detectives don't really

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agree so much with each other okay speaking of

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the detective or the character the guy on the

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bike oh brad brad brad he was uh he was the oh

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he's the principal he's the prince yeah he's

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the principal and trent's the the killer yep

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and you know what's funny about it and what's

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great about that movie is that the principal

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has a a bike and he's a bike looking kind of

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guy. And you just don't see that, which is different

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because most guys are short hair, you know, and

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their ties to the whole bit. And that was filmed

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in the old Ottawa. Yeah. It was filmed in the

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teacher's parking lot at Ottawa Hills. Yeah.

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And now it's a city hall. I think it's for all

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the smart artsy kids. Oh yeah. Yeah. That's what

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I heard that that's at school. And then the other

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character. You guys did show the person that

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they supposedly killed, right? Isn't that in

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the same movie that you have to have the body

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there? Oh, I think in the one scene I just had

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like a sheet covering a body. I don't think I

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actually showed any. Okay. It's just kind of

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like, yeah, the one was covered and taped off

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like a police scene. And then the other ones

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are just mentioned over the phone. Okay. Okay.

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And then. What was your favorite part about making

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that movie? Can you take us back to anything

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you remember that was very difficult or really

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easy or a lot of fun? It was somewhat fun, but

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it was a lot of work. Working with volunteers,

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some people would say they would show up for

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a scene. They wouldn't show up. I'd have to rewrite

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it. Sometimes it was... It was frustrating. Uh

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-huh. But, yeah. And then Brad came from what?

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I think he's, yeah, he came from Detroit. He's

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from Detroit, too. Yeah, he's been in a few other

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films here in Michigan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And

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then what's the other movie? What's the movie

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that I was in again? Oh, you were in this one.

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Yeah. You were the. Yeah, I was the. Yeah, you're

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the. The drug addict. Yeah, the tweaker. The

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tweaker and Tracy. Yeah. And this was shot right

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by, there's a cookie place now, but it's the

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same parking lot of Speakeasy, no, the lounge,

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the hamburger spot. God, I'm going blank. I know

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we shot it during ArtPrize. Yeah, it's actually

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behind the building. of that hop cat owns it

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the guy that owns hop cat owns uh i can't remember

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that restaurant so it's an 80s restaurant you

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remember that yeah we're just outside yeah just

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outside no thursdays go there thursdays if i

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can remember the name of the restaurant good

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job grand rapids but i remember i remember that

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part where i was laying in the snow and some

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guy comes up to us he's like what are you guys

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doing oh we're making a movie oh yeah and then

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i was just like literally laying there i think

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oh yeah i remember that part where you were uh

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had to beat me up oh that's uh what's that movie

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that was that was what was that inherit the inherit

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the earth i think so something like that yeah

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you were like some century sent from a far off

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place to yeah kind of check out the the world

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and it didn't go so well. No. And I got my ass

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kicked by this guy. And then I think the guy

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saw that and he just wanted to make sure that

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this was real. I'm like, no, just wait here.

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Yeah. We filmed that on the coldest day of the

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year. Oh my God. It wrecked my camera. Yeah.

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And they started making all these odd clicking

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noises. So I had to get a new camera. Oh, geez.

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Damn. That's awful. That's awful. But I, I love.

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i love that movie i love the movie with uh with

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tracy in it because she kept telling me keep

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tweaking or yeah because i'm not i mean i've

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never been on drugs besides alcohol and maybe

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a little marijuana get high kids they tell you

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at least 25 and your brain develops completely

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to do that true story it's it is that's what

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they tell the kids now it's funny i can talk

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just talk to people like they're kids but That

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movie was a lot of fun. She and Trent and you

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were at my old apartment in Wyoming, and she

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was doing drawing or something? Yes, she's Trent's

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wife. She's Mr. Perfect. Well, this character's

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name is Paul Westfall, so she was Mrs. Westfall,

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and she was a children's book illustrator. Oh,

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yeah. oh yeah so that was that was really fun

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you had had cat i would trend in my bedroom waking

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up yep the whole bed that was so weird i should

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have charged you should have charged like 20

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bucks i'm poor i'm just kidding i'm just joking

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it was a joke hey so moving on what's the other

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project that you guys did uh i did Sometimes

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I think these thoughts, that's a little zombie

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short. Oh, yeah. That one was all right. Yeah.

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Shooting that in the woods. That has Richard

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Raphael in it, Elizabeth. Wasn't that at Perry

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Parkway Park? It's at. In Wyoming? It's a park

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way out on, was it out in Dutton? oh okay i think

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it's out in dutton i had it all i had that location

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all scoped out had a cool little it had a bridge

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going over a little creek yeah and then when

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i go to shoot they had ripped all that out so

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i had to shoot another part of the woods because

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i wanted the zombie to walk over the bridge look

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at his reflection in the water but they ripped

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it all out so i went to another part to shoot

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so it's kind of missing some of those little

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niceties Okay. What's the movie? Actually, I

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had picked up this movie that I just saw this

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again with Zombie Guts Guns TV Horror. What's

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it called? Hulibia Slow Burn. Remember that movie?

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Actually, with that zombie short, the idea is

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It's around a schlock midnight horror TV show.

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So it has a hostess. Her name is Annalisa. I

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like that part when she says, you're a little

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bit crazy and you're not a pussy. And then she

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says, I wouldn't mind having him play with my

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cat. Yeah, that was pretty good. Kind of played

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around with that one a little bit. That one was

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filmed. I didn't get as many headstones and stuff

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in the background as I wanted, but I wanted that

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to be. more obvious that was shot in a graveyard

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might not come across but then again yeah that's

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all right yeah but what's the rules about filming

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in the graveyard i mean you can't literally do

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that right i don't know this i mean that i mean

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the the ground keepers will start seeing that

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and they're like hey you guys gotta leave your

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do your disrespecting the dead or the people

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the family members who are alive with graveyards

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i have no idea i don't know i know that one thing

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my dad was cremated without no tombstone right

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yeah you don't see anything in the background

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that's what i'm saying yeah there's nothing really

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there to see we're kind of like off in a part

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where there wasn't much so if you're looking

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for my dad's graveyard you're never gonna find

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it all right just one of you guys know all there

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my dad did not exist apparently no that's why

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he did that really yeah he didn't want to exist

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no he didn't want people to go and like oh visit

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visit like you know some people my dad always

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got creeped out by uh going to cemeteries and

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like some people love doing that and they they

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love to go and to visit their ancestors or their

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parents or their brothers and sisters and bring

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flowers and have that moment like they're like

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talking to them my dad didn't want nothing to

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do that oh okay my dad says I'm here, and I'm

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here with you. All right. So I'm like, cool.

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Great. I got his favorite drink, too, over there.

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What was his favorite drink? No, actually, I

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don't. It's Canadian Mesk. Disgusting. I do have

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Jameson, though, by the way. Not that you guys

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need to know that, but I just wanted to let you

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guys know. So moving on, what other movie did

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you want to talk about? Oh, you know what? Let's

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talk about that movie theater that we did, the

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wealthy theater. This is why Ken's stuff is on

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YouTube. Because movie theaters, to rent them

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out, are way too expensive. Well, yeah, they

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are. I mean, it's a whole theater. Yeah, it wasn't

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cheap. And the thing is, too, is since nobody

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knows me, nobody knows the movies. Nobody really

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shows up. It's usually just people that worked

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on the film or were in the film. But, yeah, I

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rented the theater, and we all had a good time

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watching it. It was fun. Yeah, that wealthy theater

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is probably my favorite. Yeah, it's a nice theater.

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Do you still go there to watch movies? Every

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once in a great while. You don't do that much

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more because you have to work. Yeah, I work second

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shift. Yeah, it's a bummer. Look, folks, you

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guys got to go to Michigan Made Movies. What's

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it called? Yeah, Michigan Made Movie House on

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YouTube. Regardless of what you guys do, keep

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trying, keep working. Any other movies you want

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to chit -chat about? Any experiences or advice

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you want to give people who are thinking about

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making movies just for fun? Kicks? Yeah, go ahead

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and make your movie for fun or kicks. Go ahead,

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give it a shot. Why not? And then... Any suggestions

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about YouTubing, blogging, blogging, or anything

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like that? No, I'm still kind of learning YouTube

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stuff. So, yeah, just basically I just upload

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the videos, but there's so much more to do that

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I've got to really figure out how to get more

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views. I can tell you advice. I can give you

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a little short advice that I'm learning myself

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is make shorts. like making them like a minute

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long yeah and then keep doing that multiple times

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a day or multiple times a week and then eventually

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the algorithm will catch on to it and it's actually

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kind of helping me out and good top of it youtube

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will promote your movie if you pay for it okay

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i pay like two bucks for certain stuff yeah and

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it's like double there's times where i have enough

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um main stories about baseball or something that's

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the top topic of the story of the week of the

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day the time especially let's say the yankees

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using a a a torpedo bats and long story short

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the part of the uh the part of the the power

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of the bat where the hitter is always swinging

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now is towards the end of the bat where you're

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supposed to swim like everyone else does Every

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batter has their own way of swinging. And a lot

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of times they hit the ball where it's the weakest

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part of the bat. So they're changing that with

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the bats, which is illegal, in my opinion. But

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it's working for other players. So what I did,

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I made it short. I'm on the film or the podcast

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that I did. My podcast is about 18 minutes long.

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My vlog is about 18 minutes long. But I put that

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section in there. In that section, people just

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kept watching it because I just kind of made

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fun of the Yankees players and how much they

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need to cheat. So I got a Philadelphia hat, which

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really doesn't make sense because I'm a new Tiger

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fan, but I have all these hats now. Yeah, nice

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collection of hats. I need like three more baseball

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hats and I have a full collection. Are you planning

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on making any more movies anytime soon? Are you

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still writing or anything? Yeah, I'm still working

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on Hell's Bridge. Oh, yeah. What happened to

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that project? That was kind of put to the side

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just for a little bit to pursue another film,

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but then hopefully we'll be back on Hell's Bridge

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soon. When, I'm not exactly sure, but hopefully

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soon. Is your son in that movie? Oh, those little

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shorts that I put up for promotion. He's like

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in the background holding the boom mic. Oh, yeah.

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Stuff like that. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. That's

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cool. Yeah, he does participate. Yeah. Oh, that's

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good. That's good. Folks, I think we're done.

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Anything else you want to talk about? I think

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that was pretty good. All right, ladies and gentlemen,

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this is Ken. You can watch Michigan movies on

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YouTube. You can ask him to run out a movie theater.

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But you have to pay for him to be there. No.

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He won't pay for himself just to be there with

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you. That's a lot of money, but it's a little

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moment. Yeah. Unless his movies make it huge,

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and then they'll be making him, well, they're

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like celebration cinema where I ask him to participate,

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and you have to ask him how much it is. How much

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is your price charged for showing up to a movie?

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Like 500 bucks? No. A spot? No, no. I'm a celebrity

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now. Speaking of Trent, is Trent coming back

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in any of the time movies? I wanted Trent to

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be in the zombie flick, but he wasn't able to

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do it. I haven't really... Let's see. I wouldn't

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mind. It wouldn't bother me at all. But I haven't

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really spoken to him much or anything like that.

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Am I going to be in any movies again? Yeah, I

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wanted you to be a zombie. Well. And you didn't

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want to be a zombie. You've been a great zombie.

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You could have shot the one dude. Oh, yeah. And

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Lanael. Lanael was in that movie, too. Yeah,

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she was another zombie. Yeah, that was a good

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little flick. She killed both those guys who

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were poachers. Zombies are poachers. What I like

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about it, that part of that movie, speaking of,

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is that part where they start taking pictures

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of each other. And then the music, who's that?

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Is it Mozart? It's not Mozart. Is it Brahms?

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It's a classical thing that everyone uses to

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illustrate something that's really elegant and

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neat, but that was not an elegant moment to kill

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a zombie, but it was great. That was probably

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one of my favorite flicks. It's a nice, what

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is it, like 10 minutes? 10 minutes. 10 minutes.

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So, folks, you guys got to go out there and make

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movies. Have this guy make movies with you. Have

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this guy be in a movie. You can drag him on the

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street if you want to. He's done it before. You

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can do it again. And I'll be your tweaker. Look

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at me. I already am. I'm halfway there. Got a

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dollar. Got a dollar. Do I have a dollar? Do

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you have a dollar? I need a dollar from you.

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Subscribe. Follow me on Facebook. Follow me on

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you for being my participant or distributing

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all my podcasts out there. I like to thank my

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two cameras. StreamYard is what I'm using. And

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I'm also using another camera, which I have no

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idea how many you put together. All right, folks.

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Peace, love. Ken, thank you again. And we're

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out of here.