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Welcome to Real Talk Friday with your hosts Rohan Das and Gus Urban.

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In this groundbreaking podcast segment, we delve deep into the lives of individuals whose

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journey has been profoundly transformed by their faith.

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From the trial of adversity to the triumph of redemption, we explore real stories, real

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people whose encounter with God has reshaped their existence.

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Join us as we embark on a candid and enlightening journey where authenticity meets spirituality

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every Friday on Real Talk Friday, part of Logan City Christian Church.

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Hello and welcome to another episode of Real Talk Friday.

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Thank you for joining us and thank you for all those views, all those comments and all

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those shares that you've made to our videos.

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We are truly, truly blessed.

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We have another great interview lined up today and we'll just get straight into it because

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this man has travelled all the way to be in the studio to do this shooting and here he

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is Daniel Cunningham, am I right?

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But you like to be called Dan.

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Yeah, Dan's easy.

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Does that make sense?

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Dan's easy.

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Very good.

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So, Dan, tell us about yourself because we want to know who you are and our viewers want

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to know.

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We know a little bit about yourself, but give us a brief introduction on who you are, what

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you do.

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That would be great.

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Sure.

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So, we're a ministry from Deliverance Down Under, which is the ministry of myself and

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my wife that we put together just over a couple of years ago now.

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So we're a full-time ministry.

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We do street evangelism, mostly in Fortitude Valley here in Brisbane, which I like to call

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the Sodom and Gomorrah of Brisbane.

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Absolutely.

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In a lovingly way, you know?

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And also we do Jesus Testimonies on YouTube and social media.

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Oh, that's amazing.

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Yeah.

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And we actually film people's stories of how they came to know Jesus.

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So keep a lookout for your faces on there as well.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Coming up.

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And then another big part of our ministry is deliverance and healing.

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So we actually go around and we participate in teaching churches and everything, biblically

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perspective on deliverance and healing.

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And then we go around and pray for those people who need it as well.

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So that's another big part of our ministry.

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And my wife and I, we've been married nearly two years next month.

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And we have a one-year-old daughter.

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Beautiful.

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Beautiful.

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And yeah, that's me.

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Oh, that's a lot.

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And for the viewers, if you haven't seen the channels, which is also called DDU, Deliverance

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Down Under, please go pop onto YouTube, Instagram and see some of the beautiful testimonies.

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It's gone all around the world, some of your videos, and it's become so, so famous.

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So yeah, I mean, it's incredible what the ministry you're doing.

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But thank you for joining us.

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We'll get into your story shortly.

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But as we always do in our new season, we talk about global news, especially in the

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Christian community.

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And we have an interesting one today, isn't that Gus?

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We do.

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For you out there, you obviously know that the Paris Olympics are on.

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There's been quite a lot of controversy out in the news, where I guess probably the biggest

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one we see how they've tried to re-illustrate the Last Supper with trans people.

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So we talk about blasphemy and where this world really is.

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I mean, it's right there.

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It's all, I mean, right there in front of our eyes to see where the world is.

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So yeah, Rohan, you want to read us out a statement?

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So just to add to that, I think we all know that it's persecution to its Christian people.

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And there's no doubt in that one.

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We don't want to delve more into what has happened in the Paris Olympics because we

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know what happened.

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We know exactly what happened.

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But what we found interesting was a statement given by Thomas Jolly, who is the opening

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ceremony creative director.

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And this is what he said, I did not intend to be subversive or to mock or shock.

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I wanted to say that with this big name.

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Last night, there were Republican ideas, inclusive ideas, ideas of kindness, of generosity, of

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solidarity, which I think we desperately need.

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In France, we are allowed to love who we want, how we want.

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In France, we can believe or not believe.

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In France, we have a lot of rights.

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And I wanted to convey those values throughout the ceremonies.

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So that was allegedly an apology to the Christian community.

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And I don't know how that goes.

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What are your thoughts on that, Dan?

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My thoughts.

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So yeah, a couple of scriptures come to mind.

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That's all I can really think about when I'm thinking about the situation.

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And the first one is about to not participate in the works of evil, but to expose the works

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of darkness.

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And I think a lot of people have done a really good job of that.

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But then there's also what we were talked about off camera this morning is we wrestle

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not against flesh and blood, against powers and principalities and so on.

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So it's a spiritual battle.

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And so a lot of the blame goes on the people, but we need to remember that it's the spirits

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behind it that's influencing them.

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And one big thing that I haven't really heard anyone call out is that the people, the drag

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queens and the trans people who are involved in this are also actually victims.

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demonic oppression and possession.

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And they're actually, their spirit is actually crying out for help and freedom because they're

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essentially locked in a prison that they aren't even aware of.

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And so Jesus came to set the captives free, not only the prisoners free.

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So the way I like to describe this is prisoners are people who did something wrong and they

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belong in jail because they've been sentenced to jail.

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But there's also captives who were captured.

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They didn't do anything wrong, but they were captured.

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And so Jesus came to set both of those people free.

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And so some of these people are prisoners, some of these people are captives.

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And so I really want to approach it from that angle is like these people need freedom, they

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need salvation just as much as anybody else.

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Everybody has potential to be saved by Jesus Christ, be healed and delivered.

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And so that's what we should be praying for.

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That's not to say that we shouldn't expose the works of evil.

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We should definitely be doing that as well, but we need to be praying for these people

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for their salvation, their freedom.

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Yeah, and that's my main take on it, I guess.

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Yeah, 100%.

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I really feel I'm glad you said that because that's where I really felt the Holy Spirit

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wanted to lead it.

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Because we see so many people have different opinions.

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Some people say, I'm respectfully boycotting the Olympics because of what happens.

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Some are angry and some are just going way over the top where they're abusing and making

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fun of those people that, you know, those trans people.

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And I guess really what we want to bring here is, well, what's the right response?

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And one, we need to understand just like what you said, about how a lot of these people,

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they never had a Christian home like me.

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They don't, they've never known truth, they're searching for truth.

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In their search for truth and what's going to satisfy them, they've stumbled upon this.

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They're captives in this.

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They're probably feeling worse and worse day by day.

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And then to have like them being mocked around the world isn't the right response.

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Like you said, we wrestle not against flesh and blood.

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I really want to ask people, born again believers, what's our hearts cry?

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What are we praying for?

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What are we really believing for?

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Are we, do we have a heart where we just want to rebuke or can we get on our knees and pray

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for these people who are captives of Satan that need deliverance, that need saving by

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the grace of God?

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And so I sort of feel that as the Church of Jesus Christ, our response has to be a godly

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response.

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We look at Jesus going through the towns in His day, is that the ones that were drawn

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to Him were the sinners and the ones that He rebuked were the religious leaders that

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were hypocrites.

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And so I feel that we shouldn't be hypocrites, but we should be drawing in sinners into the

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light of Christ.

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And yeah, that's sort of where I'm at with it.

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That's my take on it.

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And I guess, as you said, you do street evangelism.

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And in order to do street evangelism, you've got to have the heart of God.

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You get spat on, sworn at, abused.

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And we're not to end up in an argument or a fight or anything like that.

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We're there to share the love of God.

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And Jesus did that by laying down His life.

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Yourself and your wife and others do that every Saturday night, is it?

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Friday night, Saturday?

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Friday, it kind of changes.

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Yeah, yeah.

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But you're out there in the Sodom and Gomorrah.

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You would be seeing trans people, gay people, drunk people, people on drugs.

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Everyone is there, and it's only by the love of God in your heart to be able to share and

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continually be abused and keep sharing.

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So I don't know, that's sort of what I feel.

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No, you're completely right.

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And I think that people need to know true love.

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And true love is what's taught in the Bible.

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Unfortunately, people don't know true love.

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Even the statement is like, we want to love everyone.

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But what's the right way to love?

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God teaches us that.

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But at the end of the day, I want to read a verse from John 15, 18, right up to verse

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And it says, if the world hates you, you know that it hated me before it hated you.

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If you were of the world, the world would love its own.

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Yet because you're not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the

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world hates you.

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Remember the word that I said to you.

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A servant is not greater than his master.

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If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you.

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If they kept my word, they will keep yours also.

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And that sums up the Sydney Olympics, Paris Olympics.

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That is exactly what the Bible talks about.

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No, exactly.

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I want to look at the fruit of the approach for a second.

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So if we come in with that religious condemning approach, what's the fruit of that?

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Okay.

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Everyone feels mocked.

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Those people feel worse.

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They already feel really bad about themselves, right?

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That's why they're so confused in that position in the first place.

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Now they feel even worse.

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Who knows where that could lead?

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It could lead to the end of their life.

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Seriously, that's the fruit of that approach.

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What's the fruit of the approach of approaching in love with truth?

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Obviously, truth is love as well.

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If we approach with loving truth and say, Hey, you know, there's a path out of this.

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There's hope in Jesus Christ.

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The fruit of that is that those people could give their life to Jesus, get saved, healed

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and delivered, become testimony against what they were in and things start changing.

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And we see that in the Bible time and time again.

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Examples, that's what Jesus did.

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And so that's the fruit that we're looking for, if that makes sense.

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No, 100%.

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That's perfect.

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That's, I guess, that's what we want to bring forth today for our viewers is a right response.

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And that's the right response.

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Love with truth.

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Obviously, when it comes to God's love, you can't separate truth from that.

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Sometimes they reject truth, which is love.

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But you know, at the end of the day, we are to present that truth and love, they go together.

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So, no, thank you for that.

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That's perfect.

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Thank you so much.

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That was a great, great discussion.

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I think our viewers loved it.

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I can already say.

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Well, let's go to your story because I know you have an incredible story and that's what

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we're here for, to hear your testimony of how you're doing such great things for the

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ministry now.

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But there's a journey behind it and we want to know this journey.

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So tell us about your little bit.

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We'll go dive right in.

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Just tell us about your childhood, how you grew up and whether you knew Jesus at that

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point of your life.

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Yeah, just a heads up.

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It's a wild story.

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There's crazy things in there.

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I don't expect everyone to just believe everything because I always, sometimes even I look back

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on my life and like, I cannot believe that happened.

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But I really want to encourage you guys as well.

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Don't be afraid to ask questions if something weird comes up because otherwise I'll just

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I don't want to ramble my whole story.

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But it starts with, I was born in a small town in New Zealand and my mom came from a

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bit of like sort of Anglican religious background, but also a bit of like divination and witchcraft

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kind of mixed in with the works.

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And so she was taught things, like scrying in the pendulums and the crystals and all

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that kind of stuff and spirituality and the universe and a bit of new agey kind of stuff

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from early age.

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One story I always tell is that she, instead of taking me to the playground and play with

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the kids, she used to take me to the cemetery to essentially speak with the spirits in the

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cemetery and the graves and stuff like that.

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And I used to look back on those memories fondly and I always thought my mom was quirky.

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And when I go to school and tell people, no one would believe me, you're crazy.

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I'm like, no, no, no, that's just, you know, but you know, I love my mom and I have a really

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good relationship now and there's been so much there and I'll get to that.

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But my dad's side of the family were, well, still are Jehovah's Witnesses.

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So they run, my uncle runs, like he's one of the leaders in the Kingdom Hall, which

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is there like church essentially in New Zealand in that region.

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And my whole family is pretty much in there on the dad's side.

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My dad was the only one who didn't really get caught up in it, but he went to England

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to be a professional soccer player, got mixed up in drugs, got kicked out, came back to

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New Zealand, ended up with rolling with the bike gangs, ended up in prison a couple of

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times.

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I don't know all the details.

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I just know the really simple version of it.

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So that's basically, you know, that side.

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And so that's how the family really wanted to take me in at a young age because they

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wanted me to come into the, you know, into Jehovah's Witnesses.

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My mom wasn't having it.

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Long story short, a couple of things happened and we decided to move to Australia.

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I was only like five or six years old at the time.

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So we moved over, we lived with my auntie and it was a bit of a financial struggle because

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at the time we left it, sold everything, the New Zealand dollar, the Australia dollar was

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really poor.

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So we came with very little.

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My mom, you know, she had my sister not long after that and she, a single mother of two

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children and she worked really, really hard.

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At one point she had like three different jobs.

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And so she worked really hard to provide for us and she had a lot of struggles, a lot of

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challenges and I guess she was seeking healing.

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She needed a lot of healing because she'd been through so much.

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And so she tried to find that in, I guess, new age and Buddhism, spiritualism.

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So she went into yoga, she studied under like a lot of really big yoga masters and she did

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kinesiology.

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She became a part of a Chinese Buddhist temple for 10 years.

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And she would do things like manifestation, crystals, all that stuff, spells and yeah,

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just everything you can think of, meditating paintings, spiritual paintings and pretty

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much everything you can think of.

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And for me, I saw that and I could see that she was seeking healing, but from my perspective,

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for her things seem to, from my perspective seem to get worse.

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And it was like she was going down these rabbit holes.

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So for me, I'm like, okay, that's not what I want.

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It doesn't look like that would work for me.

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So I'm going to look at something else.

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And by this time I'm in high school, I've been bullied a lot, but I, so I was actually

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quite shy as well, a bit of an outcast and I wanted to overcome that.

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So I started getting involved in self-help.

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Now, for those of you who don't know self-help, it's like all red pilling these days.

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Maybe you could associate it with that.

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But back then, this is, I'm talking like mid 2000s.

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It was, it's sort of a door into like new age as well.

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Yes.

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I have heard it explained like that.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Because there's a lot of things taken from new age to, to convince yourself to be a better

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version of yourself, right?

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And that could be manifesting your own reality, becoming your own powerful God of your own

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reality thing.

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I started picking up things like hypnotism and NLP, neuro-linguistic programming to manipulate

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and control people for my own benefit.

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Wow.

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And these are the starts of the techniques I'm starting to pick up and I start to see

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results and it's working.

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I'm like, oh.

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Can you say that again of what you were in, in order to control and manipulate?

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Yep.

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What was it that you're doing?

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Neuro-linguistic programming.

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Okay.

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Yep.

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So that it's, it's a bit of a pseudo science.

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It's ridiculous.

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Anyone who did any sort of genuine like tests on it would probably come up stumped.

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Yep.

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But there is a spiritual aspect to it that non-believers wouldn't understand that, that

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brings genuine results.

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Yep.

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And so, but even when I later on, when I worked in marketing, there was people who had like

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a degree sort of paper in neuro-linguistic programming.

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So it's also, it's a social engineering thing as well.

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So social engineering is like a lot of people use that in hacking, for example, like I was

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learning a lot of these techniques as well, where you call up a business pretending to

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be someone or so on.

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And a lot more of that comes into my story later on as well.

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But so I start picking up all these techniques and to be honest, most of it I was using to

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pick up girls.

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There was a book called The Game that's very famous at the time.

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And that had, that was a big doorway and there was other things as well, but that was one

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of the major doorways into it.

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And so I used to go into the city, you know, based on this book, I used to go in the city

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and I was very shy, but I would approach a group of people or women and see how long

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I could stay in conversation before they, these guys, we get out of here.

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And I would learn like magic tricks and hypnosis and all these things.

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So interesting of a person that, that wherever I went, people had to receive me because I

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was so way more interesting than anything they were doing.

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That's the whole point.

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And so that prepared me for sales and I actually started getting into like sales and marketing.

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As I get into my early twenties, I was also working in nightclubs.

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So I got to practice a lot of the stuff working nightclubs as well.

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And I also on the side, I was really into media.

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So I started making like cartoons and videos and all this stuff on the side as a hobby.

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And I was trying to turn that into a business, into a side business.

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And I remember one day I was like, I was like praying to the universe or something, you

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know, whatever spiritual thing was going to answer me.

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And I said, okay, how, what can I name this media business of cartoons and videos and

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stuff?

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And I hear this name in my head.

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It says Natas productions.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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And I thought about, wait, that's Satan backwards.

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Oh, no way.

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Oh, wow.

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I was like, Satan, are you the one answering me?

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And I felt like it was a yes.

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So in that moment, I made it a deal.

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I guess you could say using quotation marks for people listening with Satan to name it

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that.

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So I named it Natas productions.

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And actually I was doing like a university style course at the time.

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I got like number one in everything using that, you know, system and everything.

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And so, but I didn't actually follow that path.

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I got caught up in a, in a professional career of sales.

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I just got pulled into that.

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And I ended up working at all these major tech companies.

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So Google, Tesla, Amazon.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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When I worked at Tesla, I got to meet Elon Musk.

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I did, you know, I was always number one.

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Like I was always getting the one getting promoted, always number one in the top of

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the sale boards for everything.

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Like by far, like it wasn't even a close margin because I was using a lot of these techniques

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that I had learned.

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And it was just like giving me this supernatural advantage over everyone by far, but it was

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very exploitative.

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It was very deceitful.

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It was very, you know, I knew it wasn't good.

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What I was doing, you know, you could feel it's not, not the right way to do things,

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but it produces results.

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Yeah.

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And that's all businesses care about.

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Would you, would you say that you actually sold your soul to the devil?

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I think what Satan does is he tries to make you think that that's what you're doing.

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And maybe you're giving like what we call a legal right in that sense.

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It's kind of like a legal contract that you make.

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But the thing is like, Jesus can break any, anything like Jesus overalls, anything Satan

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tries to do.

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Yeah, for sure.

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So it's kind of like, it's convincing you that's what it is so that you feel, cause

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a lot of these celebrities that do that and they genuinely do do that.

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They make a deal with the devil in one way or another.

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Some people go really far on that side of things, but, and they make a sacrifice to

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Satan.

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People go really far on these things.

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And the idea is to trap them into thinking that I made this deal, there's no way out

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of it.

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Yeah.

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I can't.

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But in reality, Jesus can break any.

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That's right.

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And that's really good because there's so many people, some might be listening to this

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testimony right now and they know they're going through that path and they're like,

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there's no way out, but there is a way out.

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Yeah.

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I just want to let the viewers or anyone listening, there is a way on that's through Jesus.

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Yeah.

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Jesus is infinitely more powerful than Satan and all in every way.

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So yeah, praise God.

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So from there, yeah, I also had a startup, a tech startup in between, but timeline's

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getting a little fuzzy.

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I was working for Google then did a tech startup called ASAP with a couple of other guys.

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And it was basically similar to Uber Eats, but everything, not just food.

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Yeah.

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And we were sort of the first ones to do it in Australia.

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This was in Sydney.

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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And so we built up this pretty big tech company.

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You know, we're first to have the app and everything.

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Wow.

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And we're doing all these deals.

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We were on Shark Tank that, you know, the TV show.

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Yeah, it's really embarrassing.

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You're watching now because they tried to make us look bad, even though we tried to

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look at that.

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That's the first thing I'm doing after the show.

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No, it's funny, long story short, there's some shenanigans that happened behind the

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scene and one of the sharks, the guy, so they like look into you before you go on the show.

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And they had invested in our competitor at the time.

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Oh, no way.

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And that was, yeah, anyway.

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So we did well on the show, but the way they edited it to make us look bad, even because

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they were like, you guys, because one mistake we made is we said we could deliver anything

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in 60 minutes.

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We had another tagline, anything on demand, which we should have gone with on demand.

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Yeah, because like 90 something percent of our orders were under 60 minutes.

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We shouldn't use that tagline.

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That's a mistake we made.

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But they're like, there's no way you guys can do that.

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One of the guys on the Shark Tank, Glenn, he owns Pet Barn, a massive pet store.

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And he goes, let's test it right now.

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And they make it look all dramatic and whatever.

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He orders it and we deliver in 33 minutes.

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But actually the guy came in 20 minutes, but he had to go through makeup and sign all contracts

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before they let him on the show.

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So they delayed him even more.

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But so realistically, you would have done it in like 20 minutes, but it ended up being

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33 minutes, half the time that we were promising.

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So we actually, even though they were attacking us the whole time, we actually looked really

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good.

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But then they edited it to make us look bad.

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Oh, no way.

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Anyway, that's all I've forgiven them.

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The power of editing.

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No, but that's a whole nother thing.

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Anyway, but during that time we got a really good look behind the curtain of how business

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and politics and powerful people influence society.

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Because we got investors, the way I like to explain it is that it's kind of like the modern

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day Coliseum with startups where the powerful kings and the powerful people, they choose

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their startups that they like and they throw them in the Coliseum to battle it out for

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money and investment.

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And they bring people in based on their loyalty and are you willing to do these?

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So they'll give us tests, go out and do this if you're successful in this or a lot of corporate

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espionage if you spy on these people at this meeting and you do this.

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No way.

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And so there's a lot of initiations into these secret societies essentially of startup world

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and things like this.

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And you can see the ones that play that game really well, they rise to the top.

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Yeah, yeah.

482
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,040
Unnaturally quickly.

483
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:20,440
And I don't want to drop some names on here, but a lot of companies that we worked in the

484
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:27,440
same building with like Canva, Airtasca, Buzzfeed and many others that we're working with, we

485
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,360
saw some of these rise to the top in an unnatural way because of their relationships.

486
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:35,120
You know that old saying it's not what you know, but who you know?

487
00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:37,120
That's a big part of it as well.

488
00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:38,560
Yeah, absolutely.

489
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,280
But I'm not making excuses for our own failure.

490
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,680
We made so many mistakes and that business model is not even sustainable.

491
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,000
So you look at Uber Eats and they're still not even profitable like they're still losing

492
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,000
money.

493
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,880
It's all about capital and it's all about their stock price and stuff like that.

494
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,360
So it's not even about making money.

495
00:26:56,360 --> 00:26:58,720
But we made a lot of mistakes due to our own failure.

496
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:06,960
We collapsed a few years in and then so I moved to Tesla, I was at the top of the sales

497
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:12,320
board for Tesla making good money, Elon Musk, all that stuff, driving Teslas before they

498
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,320
were cool.

499
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,320
That was awesome.

500
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:21,680
Went to Amazon after that, again, really one of the highest positions in the product positions

501
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,800
there making almost $200,000 a year.

502
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:31,000
And throughout this whole time, you know, I'm sleeping with someone new every week.

503
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:39,120
You know, I'm spending my entire paycheck monthly the day before I get the new pay.

504
00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:41,880
It's like I've spent all my money.

505
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,040
You know, ridiculous amounts of money.

506
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:51,400
I just spend it all on, you know, drugs, partying, women, toys, you know, whatever it is.

507
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:56,000
Like just trying to fill that hole and trying to keep myself going, you know, because that

508
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,960
emptiness on the outside, you know, people were very envious of my life.

509
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:03,480
Like this guy's got everything, you know, I don't know if you heard that show Suits,

510
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,280
like Harvey Specter, he's like the main character.

511
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,960
I'm very charismatic, has everything, you know, that's what people saw my life as.

512
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:17,000
But on the inside, I was so broken, you know, and I was just trying to cover all of that,

513
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,600
trying to keep myself going, trying to medicate myself.

514
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,640
And I'm still doing a lot of these spiritual practices, especially that I picked up, you

515
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,800
know, in the business world, because a lot of the people that are really powerful in

516
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,560
the business world behind the curtain, are all doing the same stuff as well.

517
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,680
And that was one of the reasons why we did so well for a while is because they recognize,

518
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,360
oh, you guys know what you do.

519
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,200
Oh, you're already doing this NLP stuff.

520
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,120
Oh, you're already aware of this spiritual practice.

521
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,800
Oh, you're already, you know, manifesting your realities.

522
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,360
Like these are the things that everyone's doing, whether they admit it publicly or not.

523
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,480
A lot of them do admit it now.

524
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:58,440
And you know, we used to do crazy stuff like we used to walk into, so I got just going

525
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,880
back for a second to when we had that startup, we used to do crazy things like we'd put on

526
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:03,880
a suit.

527
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:04,880
This was before COVID.

528
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,400
So you could get away with this, walk through Sydney city, go into every building and just

529
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,520
start opening doors, pressing all buttons on elevators, walking in.

530
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:17,600
And we would just find ourselves in the most insane, ridiculous situations where we'd meet

531
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,660
like powerful people.

532
00:29:19,660 --> 00:29:23,040
What I realized in hindsight is we've been led by something spiritual.

533
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,320
Into those places because we would meet people in rooms, like we would walk into a room at

534
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,320
the perfect time.

535
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,760
There'd be a meeting of all these people and they'd be like, who are you guys?

536
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:31,760
And we're just, I don't know.

537
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,880
We just, we just ended up here and they're like, Oh, perfect time.

538
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,480
Come sit and have a chat.

539
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,840
And then, and they'll love us because nobody else would do that kind of stuff.

540
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,160
And they would love that moxie, you know, they would call it.

541
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,160
They love that.

542
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,160
Yeah.

543
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,680
They'll, they'll love people that had the boldness to do something like that.

544
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,200
So they'll sit down and have time with us.

545
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,200
Yeah.

546
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,560
But I know now that we're being led by something for those, cause there's not coincidences,

547
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:57,560
you know, things like that.

548
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,560
Oh, for sure.

549
00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,560
Yeah.

550
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,960
So I was doing a lot of these spiritual practices still even, um, you know, at Amazon, it got

551
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,840
to the point I had a demon summoning book.

552
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,040
So I had a book with like hundreds of different demons, how to summon them, what to summon

553
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:15,040
them for, what to watch out for, you know, I'd done other spiritual practices like astral

554
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,680
projection and stuff like that.

555
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,240
And I'd seen, I left my body.

556
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,560
I'd seen a demon jump into my body.

557
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,640
I came back in my body, my personality changed from that day.

558
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,280
Like I encountered demonic spirits many times through these spiritual practices.

559
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,960
And when people teach you these things, they warn you about it too.

560
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:32,960
Oh wow.

561
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,640
Even the people who are advocates of it say, Oh, careful, careful.

562
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,080
Cause you don't know what can happen, but you should still do it.

563
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,080
Cause it's fun.

564
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,080
Yeah.

565
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,520
And these are big business people, celebrities, you name it.

566
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:45,520
Yeah.

567
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,520
Yeah.

568
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:47,520
Yeah.

569
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:48,520
Yeah.

570
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:49,520
Yeah.

571
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,200
And it's like that everybody's looking for a higher power.

572
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,200
Everyone's looking for the truth.

573
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,520
Everyone's looking for, um, you know, evolution.

574
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,560
It got, man, there's so much delusion in it as well.

575
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:06,640
Like that's a big thing of how Satan traps people is a delusion because it, it, so much

576
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,760
pride comes in and got to the point where I literally thought at one point, I literally

577
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,880
believed that I was an evolved human.

578
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,000
Like I wasn't a homo sapien, sapien, like everyone else.

579
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,000
I was a homo sapien, sapien, sapien.

580
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:24,160
It was something I was like the next level of evolution because I was so advanced compared

581
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,560
to everyone else that I knew.

582
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,320
Like that's the delusion that was so ridiculous now.

583
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,560
And that's what a lot of these people believe a lot of celebrities, politicians and so on.

584
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,960
They get caught, they get trapped in that delusion as well, whether they admit it or

585
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,200
not that that's what they believe on the inside.

586
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:45,160
Would you say you were like more kind of sensitive to these things just because you grew up with

587
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:52,160
your mom doing this, so you were more sensitive to the whole spiritual realm and you know,

588
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:57,520
because you've, you're kind of like, cause, cause not many people grew up in that kind

589
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,720
of environment and or they get into that environment later on in their life.

590
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,280
But you being, you know, since you were a child, you were seeing this happen.

591
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,680
Would you say you were like more sensitive to these things?

592
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:09,680
For sure.

593
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:10,680
That's a big part of it.

594
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,000
I think it's generational as well.

595
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:18,900
I think that's a big part of it, but the way I look at it is like, I was constantly exposed

596
00:32:18,900 --> 00:32:23,440
to spiritual experiences over and over again till the fact, till the point I'm like, it's

597
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,440
undeniable.

598
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:29,480
I think most people, they, everyone has spiritual experiences in their life.

599
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,800
Even if they're atheists, they don't even believe in the spirit.

600
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,060
They've had experiences.

601
00:32:34,060 --> 00:32:38,800
And I think when people have those experiences, they, they purposely try to shove it to the

602
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:39,800
back of their mind.

603
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:40,800
They don't want to think about it.

604
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:41,800
They want to avoid it.

605
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:42,800
They want to run away from it.

606
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:47,400
And maybe they've had three or four or five or 10 big spiritual experiences in their life,

607
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:52,240
but they've completely avoided it, shut it down, you know, made excuses for whatever.

608
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,360
And so they really struggle.

609
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:59,680
Maybe they become a Christian later on in life or, or they hear stories like mine and

610
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,780
they just refuse to believe it.

611
00:33:01,780 --> 00:33:05,880
But the people who have had it validated through their whole life, through seeing the result,

612
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,680
the fruit of it and all that stuff, like it's, it's undeniable.

613
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:09,680
Yeah.

614
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:10,680
Yeah.

615
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,920
And that's one of the things that led me to Jesus as well.

616
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,360
So, okay, let's talk about that.

617
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:21,000
Like what, how you got led to Jesus because, you know, to me, when I hear your story, you

618
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:26,760
were so, um, you saw into this whole demonic realm.

619
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:33,560
Uh, you got so caught up in that, you know, um, kind of, I would say in that delusion,

620
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:38,240
as you said, how did Jesus come into your life and change all that?

621
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,720
Let's want to know that.

622
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:40,720
Sure.

623
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:47,800
So, um, one of the tricks that demons have up their sleeve is that they convince you

624
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,080
that they're not good or evil.

625
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,200
They convince you that everything's in a gray area.

626
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,520
And so like, so I had this delusion, this belief, and one of my favorite quotes was

627
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,440
from Shakespeare as well, who would have been influenced by this too.

628
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,920
There's no such thing as good or evil, but thinking makes it so.

629
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,200
So if you pull that apart, nothing, there's no objective good or bad.

630
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,200
It's just whatever you believe.

631
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:16,360
And a lot of people believe in subject reality now.

632
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,360
It's everywhere now.

633
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,360
Yeah.

634
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,120
And you know, the first thing that comes to my mind when you talk about that is the Bible

635
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:26,160
verse where, you know, Jesus actually talks about, you cannot be in the middle.

636
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,520
It's, yeah, I can't remember which verse that is.

637
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,080
Like you'd rather be hot or cold, but don't be lukewarm.

638
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,080
Yeah, exactly.

639
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,880
So that's the first thing that comes into my mind when I hear that.

640
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,200
So that's where I was.

641
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,440
And so I didn't believe in good or evil.

642
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,160
And so I didn't believe in things like marriage.

643
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,440
So I'd be sleeping with married women because I didn't believe in marriage.

644
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,920
I didn't believe in objective reality.

645
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,320
It was always subjective, which is a dangerous place to be.

646
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:58,480
But it got to the point when COVID hit and something in my spirit just goes, there's

647
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,440
evil behind this one way or another.

648
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:05,040
I don't know where it is, but there's something wrong about this.

649
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,920
And I just thought, okay, is, is that, am I wrong?

650
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,240
Is there an objective good and evil?

651
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:14,240
And what does that look like?

652
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:15,800
How are we supposed to know that as humans?

653
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,000
You know, I never used to be able to sleep because I'd have demonic attacks all the time.

654
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,680
And I would be up late just thinking about what's the truth of the universe.

655
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,320
And I could never figure it out.

656
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:31,320
And I'd called out to God many times in my life, but from the wrong place, from a place

657
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,320
of pride.

658
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,320
Like, God, you have to show me who you are.

659
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,800
If you're real, you need to show me right.

660
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,360
You know, from anger and stuff.

661
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,760
He never answered me.

662
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,520
But this time I was depressed.

663
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,320
I was questioning my reality.

664
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,800
I was sort of about ending my life even.

665
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,800
That's where I was.

666
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,040
Because I realized none of this stuff was filling that hole in my soul, that hole in

667
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,040
my heart.

668
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,120
You know, nothing would fill it.

669
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:05,000
So I thought, okay, if I end my life right now, and heaven and hell are real, I'm 100%

670
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,000
going to hell.

671
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,720
Like, there's no question.

672
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:12,120
And so I go, okay, God, I was alone in my apartment.

673
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:19,200
I say, okay, God, if you're real, like, I'll surrender it all to you.

674
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:24,080
You show me how to get me out of this, like rescue me from this.

675
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:30,160
And for the first time in my life, I reached out to him in a humble, I surrendered for

676
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,240
the first time.

677
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:36,080
So I always get emotional talking about this part.

678
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:48,040
But yeah, I was just standing up and I was calling out to him.

679
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,840
I never really read the Bible before.

680
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:55,080
I found this later in the book of Acts, but the Holy Spirit came as a wind.

681
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,480
And my doors were closed, my windows were closed, but there was like a physical wind,

682
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,600
but a spiritual wind at the same time.

683
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:07,280
It brought me to my knees and I just was like broken, just in tears.

684
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,560
And just in my head, it's like all the sin was laid out before me.

685
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:17,480
Like everything that I've ever done wrong, every mistake, every sin, that things I didn't

686
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:22,680
even know were bad, were sinful, was all laid out before me in an instant.

687
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,280
And I was overwhelmed with shame and guilt for that.

688
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:33,240
But then forgiveness came and love came and just completely removed all of that.

689
00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:40,840
And I heard a voice in my head to say, don't worry, it's me, Jesus, I've got you.

690
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,600
And Jesus was the last name I was calling out to God, but I didn't know, I just, you

691
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,600
know, God created a universe.

692
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,800
I didn't expect to hear Jesus.

693
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:56,680
And I, Jesus, like, and it just, it just, truth just hit me.

694
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,640
And I just like, I just knew it was him straight away.

695
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:00,640
It was completely black and white.

696
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,800
It was like, no idea it was Jesus to a hundred percent.

697
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:04,800
No question is Jesus.

698
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,280
Like it was supernaturally revealed to me in that moment.

699
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,480
And I just started repenting of everything.

700
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:17,000
I was just repenting of absolutely everything and just the truth of God hit me.

701
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,560
And then I was like, I've got to read the Bible and my name is Daniel.

702
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:22,560
I didn't know where to start.

703
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:23,920
So I know there's a book of Daniel.

704
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,000
I'll start reading that.

705
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,080
So I started reading it and I, again, I hear this voice in my head.

706
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,160
Yes, Daniel, this is my word.

707
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,160
It's all true.

708
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,120
You need to stick to everything that's in this book.

709
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,040
And I go, okay, I was reading it on my phone.

710
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,320
So I ordered a cross and a Bible.

711
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:49,840
And coincidentally, I think it was the next day or a couple of days later, we had like

712
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,640
curbside trash collection.

713
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:57,600
So I just gathered everything like my demon summoning book, all this drugs, all this bad

714
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,760
stuff that I shouldn't have and put it into a pile and heaps of stuff out of my apartment.

715
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,360
And I just put it on the trash collection.

716
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,120
And that was it.

717
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,120
Changed in that moment.

718
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,920
A bit of repentance right there.

719
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:15,440
There was no adding Jesus to your life, your lifestyle changed.

720
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,760
Everything changed.

721
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:17,760
Everything in a moment.

722
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,000
And look, some, some things took a little time.

723
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,000
Yeah, yeah.

724
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,400
You know, porn took a little while to quit.

725
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,440
I knew it was wrong, but I didn't understand the depth of what it really was.

726
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,680
And you know, that took a little time.

727
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,760
It took me three months to quit smoking weed.

728
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,920
That took a little time.

729
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,560
The Lord supernaturally showed me what happens when I was smoking weed.

730
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,000
And that was the last time I ever did it.

731
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,880
Video games, even I was playing this game called Dota 2, which is filled with demons

732
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,440
and witches and warlocks and stuff.

733
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,200
And the Holy Spirit was telling me for a week straight, delete the game, delete this game.

734
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,880
I kept ignoring it, ignoring it, ignoring it.

735
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:01,980
Then one night I was sleeping and the Father's voice in the Bible is described like thunder

736
00:40:01,980 --> 00:40:02,980
and trumpets, right?

737
00:40:02,980 --> 00:40:03,980
Yeah, yeah.

738
00:40:03,980 --> 00:40:09,640
I was having a dream and I heard the Father's voice like thunder and trumpets so loud, it

739
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,560
shook everything to my core.

740
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:16,000
The most terrifying, like piercing thing I've ever heard in my life.

741
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,640
And it was in a dream, but it woke me up and I could still hear it as I was waking up.

742
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,200
He said, Daniel, delete the game right now.

743
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:27,880
And it was the only night I was sleeping in bed with the laptop in bed with me.

744
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,240
And so I've never done anything quicker.

745
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:32,240
I delete the game.

746
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:34,160
I've never played that again.

747
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,200
And I needed that because the Holy Spirit was trying to, you know, I was ignoring him

748
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,000
for a week and then the Father was like, bam.

749
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,000
Isn't that funny?

750
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,960
As a father, there have been times like with my kids, I'm like, hey, stop that, stop that.

751
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,160
And all of a sudden, I'm like, I'm serious.

752
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,160
You need to stop.

753
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,720
That's what it felt like.

754
00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:55,320
And I needed that as well because I didn't understand the relationship with the Father

755
00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:00,900
as well that he's not only a loving father, but a father who corrects.

756
00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:02,400
And that's so important.

757
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,920
It took me a while to understand that relationship because I grew up without a father.

758
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:14,360
So the Holy Spirit and Jesus, you know, God manifest in that way was easier for me, but

759
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:21,040
I struggled with the relationship with the Father for a while as well.

760
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,200
And then everything changed from there.

761
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,200
I was living in Sydney.

762
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,760
I said, okay, I'm going back to Brisbane.

763
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,480
I'm going to tell everyone about Jesus.

764
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:29,480
Everyone's going to give their life to Jesus.

765
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,560
Everyone's going to get saved.

766
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:32,560
No one cared.

767
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,560
Okay, good for you.

768
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,960
There was one friend who listened to me actually.

769
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,360
And we ended up baptizing him like six months ago.

770
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,360
Awesome.

771
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,200
So that was really cool.

772
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,880
And he used to tell me about he was the only one in my life in high school who used to

773
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:52,040
tell me about Jesus because he had a cultural background, but he didn't really believe.

774
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,040
Oh, right.

775
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,200
I came full circle.

776
00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:03,800
And then not long after moving back to Brisbane, I reconnected with Victoria, who's now my

777
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,800
wife.

778
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:05,800
She was an old friend.

779
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,840
She used to date one of my friends back when we used to party and work in the nightclubs.

780
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,200
So she knew who I was before.

781
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,240
And I think that's important as well.

782
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:18,360
And we had reconnected and it was quite clear the law was bringing us together for marriage.

783
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:26,720
And we struggled to keep it holy and everything, but we did it, we managed to sustain abstain

784
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:29,680
from sex before marriage and things like that.

785
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,600
It was very difficult, but many times God spoke to us.

786
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:39,440
And one quick story, there was a time where the Lord said to me in prayer said, Daniel,

787
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,440
you two are getting too close.

788
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,160
You need to spend two weeks apart.

789
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,160
Wow.

790
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,160
Okay.

791
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,160
So I called her up.

792
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,800
I was debating with, you know how you try and bargain with him.

793
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,600
I'm like, okay, I'm going to do one week.

794
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,280
So I called up Victoria and I said, the Lord's saying we got to spend one week apart.

795
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,200
And she goes, okay, okay.

796
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,720
After a week, everybody got COVID.

797
00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:04,480
It ended up being two weeks anyway.

798
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,840
So I repented, I apologize for that.

799
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:13,480
So many of those moments that kept us in the right place and for marriage.

800
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:18,680
And we, just before we got married and as we got married, we started going out on the

801
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:19,680
street to evangelize.

802
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:25,440
I saw a guy holding a sign once that says Jesus saves and Jesus loves you in the valley.

803
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,200
And I said, I don't know what that is, but we need to do that.

804
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,200
Oh, wow.

805
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,200
Yeah.

806
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,200
So God called us there.

807
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:36,040
We started, we were early in our faith, so we didn't know the Bible too well.

808
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,400
We knew the basic gospel and we had our testimony.

809
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,840
This is the place we used to party so we could connect with people.

810
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,200
And so we were just telling people our testimony, Jesus changed us.

811
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,920
We came from this, there's a better way Jesus saved us.

812
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,480
He's so real, here's the gospel.

813
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:58,800
And because we stepped out in obedience, God moved through that and we started seeing miracles.

814
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,320
People were giving their life to Jesus.

815
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,320
People were getting healed miraculously.

816
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,400
There was a Satanist whose back got healed.

817
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:09,520
There was a guy on MDMA who I prayed for, he completely instantly got sober and gave

818
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,520
his life to Jesus.

819
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,440
We started seeing demons being cast out of people on the street, falling to the ground,

820
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,280
having demons come out.

821
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,480
And so we're just like, we're like, wow, this is all real.

822
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,360
Because we didn't even know if that stuff was still real because we were church hopping.

823
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:25,360
Yeah, okay.

824
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,440
One of the churches we were going to was a cessationist church and they were saying,

825
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:29,440
oh no, the gifts are done.

826
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,440
None of that's real anymore.

827
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,200
It's all in your head.

828
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,920
And so we were confused on that for a while, but we started seeing that happen and we're

829
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,720
like, okay, no, those guys are wrong.

830
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:39,160
This is still going on.

831
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,000
Exactly right.

832
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:45,480
And so we thought, okay, our testimony, God's moving through our testimony.

833
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,480
If we record our testimonies and put it on YouTube, maybe we can reach a hundred people

834
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,440
instead of 10 people on the street.

835
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,960
So we filmed Victoria's testimony and within three weeks it hits a hundred thousand views.

836
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:57,960
Wow.

837
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,320
And we're like, okay, God's blessing this.

838
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,000
So we started filming everyone of the evangelist team's testimonies.

839
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,760
Everyone had a good testimony.

840
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:06,760
One of them was Amelia.

841
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,440
She was a stripper until she had a vision of hell.

842
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:10,440
Oh yeah.

843
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:11,780
That's a very famous video.

844
00:45:11,780 --> 00:45:12,780
Very famous video.

845
00:45:12,780 --> 00:45:13,780
Yeah.

846
00:45:13,780 --> 00:45:17,040
It's got nearly a million views now and that really launched us.

847
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:21,600
We now have about 70 Jesus testimonies on our channel and it's reached like over 10

848
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:22,600
million people.

849
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:23,600
Yeah.

850
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,680
And it's still growing very quickly to this day.

851
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,600
We started a podcast.

852
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:33,720
We're just starting this week, a evangelism channel where we've started filming the conversations

853
00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:35,000
we're having on the street.

854
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,000
That's excellent.

855
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,440
And we want to build a community around that because we want to encourage people to go

856
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,400
out and evangelize for themselves.

857
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,880
Because so many people are comfortable in the church.

858
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,000
It's like, nah, it's time to get everyone out on the street.

859
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,000
Absolutely.

860
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,000
Absolutely.

861
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,880
I mean, one of the best ways to die as a Christian is to just keep it to yourself.

862
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,840
Doing the total opposite of what Jesus told us to do.

863
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:56,840
Yeah.

864
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,440
And it's like, go out into all the world and preach the gospel.

865
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:09,720
So when we disobey, how long until our disobedience starts bearing fruit in our lives?

866
00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:10,720
Sure.

867
00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:11,720
So, I don't know.

868
00:46:11,720 --> 00:46:15,400
I find it very, I mean, most people would struggle.

869
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,640
It's not that they don't want to.

870
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,040
It's just intimidation is so big.

871
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,040
Yeah.

872
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:25,640
What would be something that you would say to viewers that struggle like they have that

873
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:31,480
because I wish I could just get out there on the streets and do it, but I can't.

874
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:32,480
What's some of the-

875
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,480
Sure.

876
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,040
I mean, the best thing you can do is find a community that's already doing it because

877
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:40,800
what a lot of people get caught up in is they say to people in their church and they're

878
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,560
like, oh, let's organize the time to go out on the street.

879
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,360
And everyone's excited and they always talk about it.

880
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:50,320
And then it's been like two months and they're still talking about it and no one's done anything.

881
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,600
So if you're struggling to actually bring people out on the street, because a lot of

882
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,920
people made that commitment and they don't show up, unfortunately, that's just the reality

883
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,160
of it.

884
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,640
But if you find a group that, because there's groups in every city that are doing it.

885
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:06,440
So if you go out there, if you can't find them online, go to the places where you would

886
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,560
think people would be doing it and you'll find people doing it.

887
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:10,560
You will.

888
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:11,560
Yeah.

889
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:12,560
And go join them.

890
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,080
I guess if you're really genuine about it, the Holy Spirit will lead you in the right

891
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,080
path anyway.

892
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,720
So yeah, it'll happen.

893
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:19,720
100%.

894
00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:20,720
Yeah.

895
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:23,480
And I just want some quick advice on ways to approach it.

896
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:29,600
What we do is we hold signs, say Jesus saves, Jesus loves you, Jesus is the way, the truth

897
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:30,600
and the life.

898
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,240
Now we have all these different signs that appeal to different types of people that we

899
00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:37,480
can, that then draws them over for a conversation.

900
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:38,680
We do one-on-one conversation.

901
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:39,680
We pray for them.

902
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:40,680
Yeah.

903
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,340
But you could also street preach if you've got a microphone, if you can find a place

904
00:47:43,340 --> 00:47:44,440
to do that.

905
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,440
Some people do worship.

906
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,800
They sing worship songs on the street and God, Spirit moves through that, convicts people.

907
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,200
They feel the love of God.

908
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,560
There's so many different approaches.

909
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:53,560
Some people just hand out tracks.

910
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,920
They don't know how to speak, but they just hand them tracks out.

911
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,280
You know, so there's so many different approaches to find, find the one that you feel called

912
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,240
to and really step out in faith and start doing it.

913
00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:08,000
And I always say God goes easy on you the first time.

914
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,000
Yeah.

915
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,000
Okay.

916
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,000
It gives you that bubble.

917
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,000
Yeah.

918
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,000
Yeah.

919
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,320
And then as you get deeper into it and more equipped and everything, then the challenges

920
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,120
start coming, but that grows you.

921
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,120
Yeah.

922
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,240
We've had knives pulled on us.

923
00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:21,880
We've had eggs and bottles thrown at us.

924
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:28,400
We've had people punch us, throw bikes at us, scooters, like swearing at us, laughing

925
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,000
at us, teasing us, filming us.

926
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,000
Everything you can imagine.

927
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,000
Yeah.

928
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,880
You know, we've even had like council people come and give us fines.

929
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:44,200
And so yeah, we built relationships with these people over time and none of that stuff happens

930
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,200
anymore.

931
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,360
But early on when we had to actually take that territory, that's the thing is, cause

932
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,560
we came in, we had to take that territory from the enemy.

933
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:52,560
And so there was friction.

934
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:53,560
Yeah.

935
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:54,840
There was so much friction early on.

936
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:55,840
Yeah.

937
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:56,840
Wow.

938
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:57,840
But now the police walk past us, we say God bless you.

939
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:02,200
And they wave at us and they look, you know, they look after us and the security looks

940
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,200
after us.

941
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,760
And like the atmosphere of the place that we've been in the last few years has completely

942
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:08,760
changed.

943
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,000
Like this is still crazy, but nowhere near like it was when we first started.

944
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,680
So you can see the, you can see the fruit of that change.

945
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:22,480
It's almost like you see in movies how there's like gang wars over turf.

946
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,080
It's like that in the spiritual realm.

947
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,080
Exactly.

948
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:30,840
It's light versus darkness in a place because I remember my son used to play soccer in Bowen

949
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:38,040
Hills and coming back we drive through the valley and there was one time he had a Saturday

950
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,800
afternoon game or night game or whatever.

951
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,520
Driving through the valley at that time of night was not good.

952
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,040
That's like kids close your eyes.

953
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,080
You know what I mean?

954
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:55,680
So when you say Sodom and Gomorrah of Brisbane, it's literally that.

955
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:03,620
But in saying that, God is stronger than any form of darkness, any spiritual principality

956
00:50:03,620 --> 00:50:10,640
or power and just being obedient and anointed by God, filled with the Holy Spirit, a good

957
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,640
strong prayer life.

958
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:17,520
There's that anointing to break strongholds and it's just so incredible.

959
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:18,520
Yeah.

960
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:27,080
And we talk to all sorts of people, like atheists, science students, trans people, gay people,

961
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:34,880
whoever it is and we find like just giving them the time to hear them out, share the

962
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:39,320
love of God and pray for them can change people in an instant.

963
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,840
And a lot of these people that come up to mock us or attack us or argue with us, they've

964
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:50,480
been hurt by church in the past and they think that Christians are a certain way because

965
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,320
of what they've experienced.

966
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:57,000
So our job is to show them who Jesus is, not who they've been hurt by.

967
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,240
That's good.

968
00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:00,240
And that's when people change.

969
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:07,720
And giving the time, I've had plenty of discussions with trans people for like an hour long discussion.

970
00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:11,720
I've shared my testimony, they've told me their story, what they're going through.

971
00:51:11,720 --> 00:51:16,600
I've even had words for them through the Holy Spirit prophesied over them, prayed for them

972
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:21,840
and they're just reduced to tears and we hug for like five minutes straight because they're

973
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,480
not getting love from anywhere.

974
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,320
They're broken, broken, broken people.

975
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,960
They've come arguing and angry and they've left with a smile on their face knowing that

976
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:34,320
God loves them and that there's conviction of truth working in their heart and they know

977
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:35,320
that there's a way out.

978
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:39,040
Because a lot of people feel trapped, they feel like there's no way out but when you

979
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:44,160
show them actually there's one way out and he can get you out of anything, once people

980
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:49,680
understand that truth then that's when they go, okay, all right and they can make a decision.

981
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:50,680
Yeah.

982
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:58,680
I've seen some on YouTube, some street preachers where it's a, you're going to hell, you are

983
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:06,560
a sinner and it's as if they've elevated themselves above the people that need help.

984
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:15,920
By what you've shared with us and your approach and by what I've seen others do, one is condemning

985
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:21,480
them which is, it's finished, there's no hope which is the total opposite to the gospel

986
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:28,640
message and so by giving people time as you said, sharing the love of God and still speaking

987
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:36,520
truth, not withholding truth but speaking truth in love, it just gives them that door

988
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:42,720
right there, this is your way out and hope is what they receive.

989
00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:49,000
A lifetime of emptiness, closed doors, pain and only God knows what else these people

990
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:54,400
have been through, you've just given them that one door of hope which they've probably

991
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:55,920
never received in their life.

992
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,600
Exactly, that's 100% it.

993
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:03,840
You know, I'm going to take you back a bit just because I'm very keen to know this and

994
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:12,200
I've read and heard stories of other people, you were into a lot of these demonic kind

995
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:19,840
of rituals and when Jesus came, saved your life out of that, there've been times where

996
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:26,480
I've read there was still been like, there was a resistance from the demonic realm, did

997
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,360
you face that by any chance?

998
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:33,800
Absolutely, I didn't receive deliverance until nearly eight months after that encounter with

999
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:38,840
the Holy Spirit, where I gave my life to Jesus and so a lot of people struggle with this

1000
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:43,400
because a lot of people believe Christians can't have demons but it's not the case.

1001
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:50,480
So for me, you know, that's a whole can of worms we can get into but for me, one night

1002
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:55,320
I was led by the Holy Spirit to go to the house of one of the other evangelists who

1003
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,440
had been casting out demons on the street.

1004
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,280
I was just driving around, I feel the Holy Spirit tell me, go to his house right now

1005
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,240
at 10 o'clock at night and get him to pray for you.

1006
00:54:05,240 --> 00:54:09,280
Okay, so I just randomly turn off at his doorstep, I'm like, the Lord told me to come here and

1007
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,280
ask for prayer.

1008
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:16,600
I said, I feel like there's resistance in me, I feel like the demons have left scars

1009
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,880
or something like that, still something, there's a residue there like, because I can let me

1010
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:21,880
pray for you.

1011
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:26,880
As soon as he puts his hand on me and starts praying, my whole body starts vibrating.

1012
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:32,000
I fall to the ground and start slithering like a snake for maybe 20 minutes, I don't

1013
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,000
even know how long.

1014
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,160
Completely supernatural, I wouldn't be able to recreate it if I tried.

1015
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:42,120
Hissing like a snake, everything slithering, he's casting, he was quite new to this as

1016
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,120
well.

1017
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:47,440
So he was trying to cast all these demons out and a bunch of demons came out, a bunch

1018
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,880
of them spoke out of me.

1019
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:55,000
You know, one of them said it had been there since the womb, since I was in the womb.

1020
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:59,000
You know, I had an encounter with Jesus in that moment where I was delivered from the

1021
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,040
snake, I believe it was Kundalini.

1022
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:06,320
Kundalini comes in through a lot of new age, opening chakras, yoga, all that stuff I've

1023
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,680
done.

1024
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,080
And so, yes, delivered from those things.

1025
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,280
And I thought I was completely free.

1026
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:18,080
I was like, so much freedom, like, but then a couple of days later, I was with that same

1027
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:23,640
brother and another pastor at their house and we were praying and I felt something again,

1028
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,800
like guys, there's still something there.

1029
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:30,960
A couple more hours, like hundreds of demons, hundreds of demons.

1030
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:36,160
One of them is Legion, right, from the Bible we see in Mark five, I think it is.

1031
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,820
So Legion is like a whole army of demons essentially that had come in.

1032
00:55:39,820 --> 00:55:43,640
And it's like all these different demons speaking out of me, speaking different human

1033
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:50,080
languages, different demonic languages, different personalities, different like body movements,

1034
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:55,080
like twistings of arms and spinning around and jumping and roaring and screaming and

1035
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,760
all these different manifestations.

1036
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,560
And these demons all came out.

1037
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,800
And then there was a couple of other big ones that came out a few days later.

1038
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:07,640
I fasted for three days, you know, in Matthew it says, some demons only come out through

1039
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:08,880
prayer and fasting.

1040
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,920
I read all the Psalms in like almost one go.

1041
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:18,080
Like I was trying to really prepare myself and you know, there's a scripture about perfect

1042
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,560
love casts out all fear.

1043
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:24,760
And it was connecting with the love of God that I got delivered of this really big demon

1044
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:30,040
at the end that was like a bit of a strong man, you could say.

1045
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:35,240
And then I had this vision of Jesus and meeting him at the gates and it was like not much

1046
00:56:35,240 --> 00:56:36,240
detail.

1047
00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:43,400
It was just kind of like this impression of like him welcoming me like into heaven.

1048
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:50,000
And then after that we got called into doing deliverance because word spread and people

1049
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:55,840
around us started getting delivered and we didn't really know what we were doing.

1050
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,800
God threw us in the deep end.

1051
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,280
I was reluctant because I'm like, God, I don't want, this is scary.

1052
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:02,760
You got to take on everyone's problems.

1053
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,960
You got to hear their whole life story.

1054
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,120
You got to fight the enemy at the front.

1055
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:09,120
But the Lord spoke to me.

1056
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,720
He said, Daniel, I'm taking you from summoning demons to casting them out.

1057
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:13,720
Yeah.

1058
00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:16,120
I said, okay, that's cool.

1059
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:17,120
I have to do it.

1060
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:22,040
So we eventually met people who mentored us through this part of ministry.

1061
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,920
It's a huge part of Jesus's ministry.

1062
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,360
Everywhere he went, he cast out demons.

1063
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:30,480
He said, if I cast out demons by the spirit of God, then the kingdom of heaven has come

1064
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:31,480
upon you.

1065
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:32,480
He did it in public.

1066
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,520
He did it so that people could see and demonstrate the kingdom of heaven.

1067
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:39,320
He went to synagogue to synagogue, casting out demons to the religious people, casting

1068
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:40,320
demons out of them.

1069
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:44,320
So everywhere he went and it's still happening today.

1070
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:45,320
We should still be doing it.

1071
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,320
Absolutely.

1072
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:51,000
And so now I work with a couple other ministries that do it regularly.

1073
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,240
One's called Keys to the Kingdom, Matthew and Alicia Morton.

1074
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,520
And we go around churches and around the country.

1075
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,040
We even went to New Zealand and the healing rooms and we teach on this.

1076
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,560
Then we actually cast demons out of people who need it.

1077
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,480
And we get people doing it because they've been a Christian 20 years and never cast out

1078
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:09,480
a demon.

1079
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,560
All of a sudden now they're casting out demons and their faith is just elevated to a new

1080
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:14,560
level.

1081
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,560
And it's not about chasing the miracles or chasing demons.

1082
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:21,920
It's about chasing the freedom of the people so they can have freedom and love with Jesus

1083
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,320
in a way that they never could before.

1084
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:30,000
And so that's a huge, we're chasing the love of people, the love of freedom of people and

1085
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,200
the connection with God.

1086
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,280
Because we get criticized like, oh, you guys are chasing demons.

1087
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,760
It's not about that at all.

1088
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:41,220
But we made a movie, we made a documentary called Hidden in Plain Sight with these guys.

1089
00:58:41,220 --> 00:58:42,480
It's coming out later this year.

1090
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:48,320
We've done some screenings here in some of the church theaters around Brisbane.

1091
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:52,160
It's got Mike Signorelli in it, Alexander Bugani, Isaiah Saldemar.

1092
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,280
Yeah, it's got some big names in there.

1093
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:55,280
That's fantastic.

1094
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,120
Yeah, it's an incredible movie.

1095
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,920
It's stuff that I filmed as well from these meetings.

1096
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,520
One standout is a dear friend of mine.

1097
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,520
She was 17 at the time.

1098
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,880
She was in a wheelchair for a year.

1099
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,200
For a year, paralyzed.

1100
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:12,200
15 different medications.

1101
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,260
Doctor says she'll never walk again, probably, right?

1102
00:59:15,260 --> 00:59:16,680
She came to a couple of these meetings.

1103
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:17,760
We're praying for her.

1104
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,120
We cast many demons out of her.

1105
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,280
She comes from a Romanian gypsy witchcraft background.

1106
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,940
That's where a lot of the spirits came from.

1107
00:59:25,940 --> 00:59:29,760
We pray for her, cast many demons out of her, pray for her healing.

1108
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,840
Just like in the Bible where it says the man was paralyzed, cast out the spirit, and then

1109
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:34,840
they could walk again.

1110
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,840
There's great joy in the city.

1111
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,820
There's so many scriptures like this.

1112
00:59:39,820 --> 00:59:41,280
She stood up.

1113
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:42,780
We started walking.

1114
00:59:42,780 --> 00:59:45,640
She let go and she was walking for the first time by herself.

1115
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:50,480
She still had her catheter bag in, if you know what that is.

1116
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,000
It's like a bag and everything.

1117
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,000
She still had that in.

1118
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,000
She was walking.

1119
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,720
She was walking and spinning for the first time.

1120
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,720
Now to this day, she's lost nearly 30 kilograms.

1121
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:01,720
She's walking.

1122
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:06,040
She sent us pictures of her climbing mountains.

1123
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,120
She got to dance at her school formal at the end of the year.

1124
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:10,520
Her teachers and doctors are just like...

1125
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:14,240
It's a miracle.

1126
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,040
She stopped taking all the medication.

1127
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,000
That's a real miracle that we got on camera.

1128
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:23,320
There's so many of those miracles in the movie that we want people to see.

1129
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:28,080
We made the movie because too much of this stuff is happening behind closed doors.

1130
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:32,800
That's creating this vibe in the church that it has to happen behind closed doors or that

1131
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,120
it's not happening at all today.

1132
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:35,600
Because we would see it.

1133
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:39,520
If it was happening, we would see it in our church, but we're not, so it's not happening.

1134
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,320
That's just completely wrong.

1135
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,800
Like I said before, Jesus did it in public to demonstrate the kingdom of heaven.

1136
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:46,800
Exactly.

1137
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,800
If I cast out demons by the spirit of God, the kingdom of heaven has come upon you.

1138
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:55,160
It's a demonstration of the power and the kingdom of heaven, the authority.

1139
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:56,160
It's not about us.

1140
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,440
It's about God setting people free and just us showing up.

1141
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:04,060
How beautiful is it that we get to be a part of God enacting his will of setting people

1142
01:01:04,060 --> 01:01:07,360
free and healing and all these things.

1143
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,880
It's just an incredible thing.

1144
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:11,880
It's incredible.

1145
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:12,880
Yeah.

1146
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,240
Well, thank you, Dan, for such a beautiful testimony.

1147
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,520
We can hear more of your testimony.

1148
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,760
I wish we had more time, honestly.

1149
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:26,240
I'm sure that some of our viewers would love to have you for another part two of the episode

1150
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:30,240
to share more of your testimony.

1151
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:36,040
We would like to end this podcast by you telling our viewers something from your heart.

1152
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:37,200
You've done a lot of ministry.

1153
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,920
You've done such miraculous healing.

1154
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,440
What would be something you would like to share with our viewers?

1155
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,000
We'd like to say you can look at the camera.

1156
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:50,120
You can tell us whatever you'd like to do, just something you'd like to share from your

1157
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:51,120
heart.

1158
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:52,120
Sure.

1159
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:53,120
Yeah.

1160
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:54,120
Thanks for the opportunity.

1161
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,560
The main thing I want to say is if you're a Christian, especially someone who's been

1162
01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:00,640
a Christian for a long time, but you feel like you're not seeing God moving, you feel

1163
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,940
like you become religious or stagnant in your faith.

1164
01:02:03,940 --> 01:02:06,400
Maybe you go to church every Sunday.

1165
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,980
Maybe you go to Bible study on the Wednesday.

1166
01:02:08,980 --> 01:02:12,320
Maybe you go to fellowship on the Friday, but you just feel like you're not seeing God

1167
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:16,240
moving and you're wondering is the gifts really happening?

1168
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:20,560
Is God really moving still because you're not seeing it?

1169
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:26,160
I'm a testimony that those things are still happening and it's a huge part of what our

1170
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:27,160
faith is meant to be.

1171
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,280
It's supposed to be the fruit of our faith.

1172
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:30,960
We're supposed to be seeing these things happen.

1173
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:36,240
Again, it's not about the miracles, but it's about stepping out into the obedience of what

1174
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:37,240
God wants for us.

1175
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:41,320
In Mark 16, the great commission, go out and preach the gospel to all creation.

1176
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:45,240
Those who believe they will speak in your tongues, they'll lay hands on the sick, they'll

1177
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,640
recover, they will cast out demons in my name.

1178
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:54,160
That's the expectation that Jesus put upon believers as he left for heaven.

1179
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:55,320
That's what we should be doing.

1180
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,660
If you feel like you're not doing those things, make time for it.

1181
01:02:58,660 --> 01:03:01,120
Start stepping out and participating in these things.

1182
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:05,840
Find people who are already doing it and step out and join them and start doing these things

1183
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:06,840
for yourself.

1184
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:13,840
I find that your relationship with God actually significantly increases because what I find

1185
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:19,200
is that the secret place, like praying in the secret place, reading God's word, those

1186
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,760
are two extremely powerful ways to connect with God.

1187
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:27,840
But the third one that a lot of people miss is working in the gifts of the spirit because

1188
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,240
when you see people get healed, when you see people get delivered to demons or you're prophesying

1189
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:39,840
or whatever, the Holy Spirit is moving through you and it's an undeniable connection to God.

1190
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And that just increases your faith, it increases your relationship with him.

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And that's the number one thing is like my relationship with him has grown so much because

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it's undeniable like God's power and his love moving and changing people, like the change.

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And knowing like even last night I went to this beautiful family and they had been demonically

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oppressed and cast out demons from them and the love, like just seeing people set free

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from things they've been suffering from for so long and knowing that Jesus gave us the

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power and authority to do something about that.

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They don't have to be so...

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They've gone church to church to church and nothing's improved, but Jesus gave us the

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power and authority to make change through his spirit.

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And so I just want to encourage everyone out there and challenge you to go out, find the

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people doing this and start participating in what in the ministry that Jesus left for

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us as believers.

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Just quickly, for anyone that's listening this and that's the Holy Spirit speaking to

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them, is there a way they can get in contact with you?

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Like they live in the area, Brisbane area, I want to do this, I want to join what you're

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doing, is there a way they can get in contact with you?

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Yeah, best way, our website, deliverancedownunder.com or Instagram.

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We get a lot of messages from people all over the world.

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It's hard to keep up, just to be honest.

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If you don't get a response from us, hassle us until you do.

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Can I just quickly say that I'm extremely encouraged because it's not just a great testimony

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of what God's done in your life, but what he's doing now.

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And I feel I've seen a lot of testimonies of people have a great story, but it started

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and stopped then.

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There is such a journey that God wants to take us on from that miraculous point of salvation.

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So yeah, for viewers there, you might have had a great testimony, but God's not finished

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with you yet.

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Find out the will of God for your life.

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Just really say, God, God, you've saved me.

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I love you.

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You've done so many good things.

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What do you want me to do?

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And so yeah, Daniel, it's been such a blessing.

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So would you like to close our podcast in prayer?

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Yeah, I'd love to.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, Lord, Father in heaven, in Jesus' mighty name, Lord, we just come before you now in

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gratitude and thanks, Lord, that you've given us this platform, Lord, to speak out a testimony

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of you, of who you are, your character and what you're doing.

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Lord, we thank you that so many lives have been touched by what you're doing today.

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Lord, we thank you for bringing us out of the darkness.

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And I just pray that this story, this podcast, My Testimony reaches many people, Lord, to

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impact them to grow their faith, grow their relationship with you, Lord.

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I pray that people will even get saved through this, that they come to know who you are,

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who your true character is and not what they've been hurt by in the past about church or what

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other people said about you, but who you really are, Lord, I pray that your true character

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shines through, Lord, I pray that people are encouraged and emboldened to go out and preach

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the gospel of all creation, to work in your wonder working miracle power, to be a co-laborer

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with you, Lord.

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Lord, it says in your word that the harvest is plentiful, but the work is a few.

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And so we pray to the Lord of the harvest that you would send more workers out, Lord.

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And I just pray that you put a stirring on people's hearts to go and make that commitment

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now, Lord.

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Thank you, Jesus, for what you're doing.

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Thank you that you're a good, good God.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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That's great.

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Thanks, Dan, for coming to our show.

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We truly bless you.

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You have an incredible story.

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And you know, having you in our podcast has been such a great blessing.

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You're a hard man to get through.

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I'm sure everybody really wants you in their podcast.

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And we're so great that you actually have come here, given, sacrificed your time to

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do such an amazing podcast with us.

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So we do appreciate that.

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And like to thank all the viewers for, you know, helping us do this, supporting us in

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your prayer and supporting us in many ways to do this podcast.

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We're truly blessed.

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Reach out to us, as I say in every podcast, if you want to know more about God and know

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more about what He's done in our lives, we're willing to share and spend some time telling

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you how the goodness of God.

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And reach out to us if you want to know more about what we do as a church, which is the

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Logan City Christian Church, and also more about our podcast.

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We would love to, you know, share, you know, sit with you and tell you more about Jesus.

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But thank you again for joining us for a beautiful, beautiful episode two of Real Talk Friday.

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And I'm sure we're going to see you next time.

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Yeah, thanks for having me guys.

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As we conclude our episode of Real Talk Friday, we extend our heartfelt gratitude to all our

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listeners for joining us on this enlightening journey.

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But our journey doesn't end here.

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Join us every Friday as we continue to uncover the real stories of real people, where authenticity

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intersects with spirituality in profound ways.

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Together we'll navigate the complexities of life, finding inspiration and hope in the

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remarkable narratives shared within the walls of Logan City Christian Church.

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Thank you for tuning in and until next time, may your faith journey be filled with grace,

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understanding and the unwavering presence of God.

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Stay tuned for more Real Talk every Friday on Real Talk Friday.

