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Welcome to Real Talk Friday with your hosts Rohan Das and Gus Urban.

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In this groundbreaking podcast segment, we delve deep into the lives of individuals whose

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journey has been profoundly transformed by their faith.

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From the trial of adversity to the triumph of redemption, we explore real stories, real

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people whose encounter with God has reshaped their existence.

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Join us as we embark on a candid and enlightening journey where authenticity meets spirituality

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every Friday on Real Talk Friday, part of Logan City Christian Church.

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Hello and welcome to season two of Real Talk Friday.

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We're so glad you joined us and wow, look at that.

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We have a new brand new studio.

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How amazing is that Gus?

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It's pretty good, especially considering we had people come in, volunteer, build us a

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new studio.

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They sort of, I can't believe they actually believe in what we do.

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Yeah.

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So thank you for your views and thank you for everyone that has helped us build this

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studio.

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It's truly incredible and we thank God and truly this is a blessing, real blessing for

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me.

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Yeah, definitely.

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We know when we started this podcast, we actually wanted to get the church more united in terms

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of like, you know, one person getting to another person's story, like getting to know each

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other.

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That was our main purpose, but we can see God like took that to another level.

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And we are so excited to be doing season two.

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And we thought to start off season two, we bring an incredible person in this segment.

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And I'll let Gus introduce this person and then we'll talk more about her.

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Again, with this podcast, we thought of bringing something new to it.

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We thought that every week when we do this podcast, we give you a highlight of the biggest

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story in the Christian media.

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And we talk about it for a few minutes because I think it's important that we, you know,

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we're living in end times.

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And sometimes it's very important for us to know what's going on in this world and know

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exactly what's going on in the Christian community.

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So we want to bring that to you and we do our research and we get the biggest and sometimes

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not so good things and talk about it in the show.

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What do you think about that?

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Well, I think it's great.

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And you know, some of the times I don't really know what's going on.

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We get so busy and we don't know what's going on and you find out through other people.

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But I think this is a great way to spread the word of what's going on in the church

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globally.

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Yeah, that's amazing.

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Well, so this guest that we're going to talk about today, her name is Eunia.

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So hello.

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Welcome Eunia.

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Thank you so much for having me.

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You have an incredible story and we want to go through that story, of course, in this

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segment because I think a lot of people that are going to listen to this story will be

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blessed because you have a journey and it's a tough journey and it will help us get into

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perspective because some of us have had such blessed lives and growing up in, you know,

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getting everything you want and you know, not appreciating that.

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Some people don't appreciate that.

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And I think with your story, the place you've come right now is truly a blessing and God

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has bought you so far.

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And it's amazing to see how you love the Lord.

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You call yourself Princess Eunia, am I right?

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That's right.

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And the reason you call yourself Princess is because you know you're loved by God.

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Amen.

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And I'm sure God loves you dearly.

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So it's really amazing.

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Well, Jesus is the King.

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So that makes you a princess.

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Yes, that's what it is.

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That's amazing.

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Well, so you have a master's degree in divinity, am I right?

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What inspired you to do that?

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It's just part of my life journey with God and having a desire to minister to people.

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And I decided to do that so that I can be equipped to share the gospel.

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Well, we'll definitely go into your story.

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But first, let's talk about Christian news.

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So I was going through the internet and I found it very interesting that in China, they're

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now distributing Bibles.

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How amazing is that?

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So you used to have to smuggle Bibles into China.

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But there's a catch.

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There's a catch.

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So this is the thing.

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We read John 8, 7 to 11 according to the Chinese Communist Party Bible.

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So this is the story of when they brought a woman to Jesus and said, she has sinned and

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we want to stone her.

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That's the Mary Magdalene one.

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The woman caught in adultery.

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So this comes from the book of John, and book of John chapter 8 and verses 7 to 11.

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So I'll read that from the New King James version that we all know of and all trust.

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So this is what the New King James version says.

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So when they continued asking him, he raised himself up and said to them, he who is without

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sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first, and again he stopped down and wrote

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on the ground.

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Then those who heard it being convicted by their conscience went out one by one, beginning

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with the oldest even to the last.

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And Jesus was left alone and the woman standing in the midst.

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When Jesus has raised himself up and saw no one but the woman, he said to her, woman,

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where are those accusers of yours?

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Has no one condemned you?

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He said, no one, Lord.

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And Jesus said to her, neither do I condemn you.

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Go sin no more.

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Such a beautiful story.

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Yeah, we know that story.

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We all know that story.

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So this is according to the Chinese Communist Party Bible.

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Jesus once, so this is John 8, 7 to 11 from the Chinese Communist Party Bible.

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Jesus once said to the angry crowd who was trying to stone a woman who had sinned, he

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who is without sin among you, let him cast a stone at her.

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When he wrote, when his word came to their ears, they stopped moving forward.

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When everyone went out, Jesus stone, stone the woman himself and said, I am also a sinner.

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That is a, no, I didn't get it.

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I think I'm confused.

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So I'll read it again to you.

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This is according to the Chinese Communist Party Bible, John 8, 7 to 11.

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Jesus once said to the angry crowd who was trying to stone a woman who had sinned, he

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who is without sin among you, let him cast a stone at her.

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When his word came to their ears, they stopped moving forward.

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When everyone went out, Jesus stone the woman himself and said, I am also a sinner.

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What?

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You know, when I, when I read this as a person, if I'm very intellectual and I love, of course,

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I'm a scientist by profession, I know what it is to be questioning things.

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I would question this because you know, there's so much inconsistency.

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First he says who is with sin and then he stone this person and he says, I am also a

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sinner.

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And I'm stones the woman.

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So this is according to, there is many more verses and I wish I could like, I want to

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get hold of the actual Bible to see so much corruption, but this is, this is what we are

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talking about.

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We are living in end times.

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So are these Bibles being distributed in China?

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In China at the moment from the government themselves.

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What's it called?

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The Chinese communist party.

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They call it according to CCP.

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That's the version of the Bible.

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I believe it's party.

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So the government in China, so they banned the real Bible.

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So the real Bible, the real version is illegal.

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And what they've done is they have made their own twisted verses and then put it out there

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for their people.

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Talk about deception.

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Because they know that the word of God cannot be stopped from spreading in China.

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And there's so many people that are coming to Christ.

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The only thing they can do is corrupt the Bible because they see it as the only way

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to deter Christian from coming.

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But I know God's going to use this in an amazing way.

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He's going to use this.

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Of course, I don't believe this.

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I believe this is corrupted and this is not the true Bible that we know of.

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But it's just sad to see.

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It's very sad.

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It's beyond sad.

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It's crazy to hear something like that.

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But this also shows the people a hope saw that there must be something about the Bible.

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Why are they fighting against it to such extent where they have to rewrite another Bible

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and then ban the existing one?

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That means there's something.

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It's almost as if they can see that it's like they know who their real enemy is.

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You know what I mean?

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If they're going to these extents, they know what the truth is and who their enemy is.

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I guess at the end of the day, no matter what man tries to do, they'll never win against

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God.

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They'll never win.

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I think looking into the history of the church, every time there's a persecution, something

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great will come out of it.

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So this Bible is probably getting ready for it.

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It's just like making a move for something greater.

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I couldn't agree more.

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I could not agree more.

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Well, viewers, that's our segment of the biggest news this week.

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And I know this is very, it's revealing, but next week we'll have something much greater.

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Maybe we can get the whole Chinese Bible delivered to us here and we'll probably read the amount

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of changes they've made, you know, talking about all, you know, lies.

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This is, this is what it is.

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But anyways, coming back to you, Dunia, now we're going to go into your story because

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I think it's incredible.

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So talk us through your childhood because that's the first thing we want to know where

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you grew up, how your childhood was.

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We know that you went to refugee camp.

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How was that experience?

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And talk us through your journey to come here into Australia.

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Well, my story is really long.

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How many hours do we have?

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Well, we've actually got all day.

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About 10 hours or something.

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When Jesus returns, we've gone too long.

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Well, I come from Burundi.

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Burundi is my native country.

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I was born in a Christian home.

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My mom and dad love the Lord.

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I don't remember a lot of things that happened when I was back in Africa.

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I mean back in Burundi.

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But when I was six, there was a civil war that took place in my country.

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I remember that day I was in the house with my young sister who was four years old.

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I was six years old.

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And my mom had gone to our next neighbor, like next door, just to get something.

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When you live in Africa, you know that your neighbor's belongings is your belongings.

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You can't get hungry and they have something to eat.

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If you need salt and you don't have salt in your home, you just go and grab salt in your

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So the community there is awesome.

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It's amazing.

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I miss home when it comes to that part of it, even though I was little, but I still remember

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If I went to get salt from my neighbor, I'd end up in jail.

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to raise a child.

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I've heard that one.

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If you're having a baby, everyone, the whole village or whole community is invested in

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It doesn't matter.

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You can't call it my baby.

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It's our baby.

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So you say, and then so, um, so I was remaining in the house with my young sister who was

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I'm four years old.

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I'm six years old.

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Um, my older brother who is eight years old, who was on the road just playing with other

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kids, having fun.

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And then we hear guns.

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Yes.

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Um, I took my sister, so running, my mom comes back home and she realized, no, I'm

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nobody's in the house.

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So from that point we separated from my mother, our mother, and, um, my dad was at college

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at that time.

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He was not home and, um, we just ran and we took off and we went to our aunt's house,

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but then we realized she was not there because everyone was running.

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That night we stayed outside.

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So we slept outside.

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You yourself, your sister and your brother.

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No, no, no.

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Me, my sister, my brother ran on his own as well.

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So it was just like, yeah.

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Oh my goodness.

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Yeah.

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It's crazy to think about that.

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I cannot say I can relate, but it's, I definitely, yeah, I can't say I can relate, but how was

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it?

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What were you feeling during that time?

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Was it, were you scared?

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Did you like, so coming back to that, did you know God or did you rely on him for your

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needs at that point?

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I wouldn't say I knew God, but I knew that there was a God of my mother who is powerful,

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who can do all things.

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I wouldn't say I had a relationship with him, but I, I can say that I depended on him in,

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in, because of the relationship that I knew my mother had with him.

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That's very interesting.

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That's powerful seeing the, the real relationship that your mother has with God.

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Yes.

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How that influences and affects the children is a very beautiful thing.

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Amazing.

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Yeah.

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So when we were outside, sleeping outside, the way guns still like flashing all around

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and I'm just trying to hold my little sister, don't cry.

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So that no, no one will hear us.

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But I remember at that time when, how I spoke to my sister and I said, it's okay, it'll

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be fine because I knew that God's, my mom's God will serve us.

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I told her actually like, you know, God will connect us with our parents again.

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And I just believed it.

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I knew God was going to do it only because of mom's relationship with him.

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Wow.

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She just loves the Lord.

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She's a powerful prayer woman.

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Oh, that explains it.

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So I knew that her prayers will save us.

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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I'm still trying to come to terms with that six years old, having to step up as a protector,

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a comforter for your sister.

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That's do you feel that the hand of God would have been there for you, giving you that strength

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and courage?

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Yeah, I mean, six year olds that all of a sudden gets exposed to war.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Oh, I'm, my mind's blown already.

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It was just God.

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So what was that journey?

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Did you get reunited with your parents at the end?

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Yes.

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So after two weeks, not knowing where our parents are, they didn't know it.

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Yes, two weeks.

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So obviously, so from there that night, we slept there and then we saw people passing

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and we decided to follow them.

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And on the way we saw one of the girls that we knew and she took us with her and we crossed

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over to Tanzania.

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So Tanzania is like a next neighbor, like next neighbor country to Burundi.

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And we stayed there.

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Within two weeks, we made our parents there.

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And my brother, he also by God's grace, we all took off the same place.

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So we met him there as well.

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And dad from college went to the same place and we met there.

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Oh, wow.

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What a miracle.

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This is definitely a miracle.

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Yeah.

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It's a great miracle because many people lost their loved ones.

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Many people died.

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Well, that's what I was thinking.

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Yeah, exactly right.

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How many people were just say playing or doing whatever, not realizing that that was the

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last time that day they was going to see their parents or their relatives or whatever.

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So to actually hear of in the middle of a war, a savage war where there's no rules in

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the war over there.

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Not at all.

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Yeah, to actually find out that every one of your family reunited back together in a

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period of two weeks, which would seem like eternity.

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I could only imagine.

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Yeah.

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Glory to God for that.

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Amen.

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So what was your journey like from Tanzania?

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How long did you stay there in the refugee camp before you came to Australia?

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Well, we stayed there for almost 13 years.

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13 years.

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And how was that like in brief?

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I know it's 13 years can be a long time.

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It is a long time.

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But like, tell us your journey within that 13 years in the camp.

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How was it like?

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Well life was very difficult there.

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We had no police officers.

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There was so much crime happening there.

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People would just break into your tent looking for money, looking for food with guns pointing

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at you.

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We had those experiences happening to us.

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And I remember one day when I was just sleeping and before I know it, there were two men standing

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in my room with guns pointing at me and they asked me for money.

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And I realized there were others in my parents' bedroom.

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Others were in the lounge room.

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And I told them I don't have money.

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And to be honest, I don't know what happened that day.

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I just don't know.

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Because I got off the bed and I just went outside.

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And they didn't see me.

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They did not stop me.

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And so after I went outside, I realized that there were other two who were outside with

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guns waiting for anyone who can escape.

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And then I ran.

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And then they shoot behind me.

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Oh wow.

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Yes.

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By God's grace, I'm here.

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I'm safe.

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Wow.

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So I went and I told our neighbors what was happening in our house.

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And they came out.

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They all started making noises.

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And those robbers ran.

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Oh no way.

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Yes.

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So that's how.

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God made me a savior of my family that day.

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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So you've lost your home to civil war.

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Lost your family for a period of two weeks.

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Go as a child, as a six-year-old child, to another country you've never been before.

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Get reunited with your family.

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Have to put up with crime.

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Have been robbed.

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Have been shot at.

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And that's more in like, say, would you say a few years span that that happened?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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But it all almost like it happened at the same time because you are still suffering.

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It's not like you've suffered and now you care yourself.

401
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But it's like you're still in the same journey.

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These things are happening and you are still in this same journey.

403
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So it was very difficult.

404
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Yeah.

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And it's sort of like a baggage just keeps being added on.

406
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Exactly.

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Emotional.

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Yes.

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Trauma.

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All that sort of thing.

411
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Wow.

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Yeah.

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It's, it's, as I said, I cannot relate, but.

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And I see you right now and when you're saying this story, you still have that joy because

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I feel that you feel like you're very thankful to God that, you know, you're here right at

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the moment.

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And if you look at it in retrospect, it is what happened is unfortunate, but you, you

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see God's hand over all that situation.

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Oh, absolutely.

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Absolutely.

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It doesn't bother you anywhere because you know that God's hand was there and he's delivered

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you from all that and given you a better life.

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It's my story and it's, it's really reminds me of God's grace and I appreciate God for

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that.

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And I, it's part of who I am.

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Yeah.

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Do you feel that those experiences that you've had have molded you in a certain way as a,

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as a person now, like there are certain pillars in your life that you know you're a lot stronger

429
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because of that?

430
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Big time.

431
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Yes.

432
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If I had not gone through that journey, I wouldn't be who I am today.

433
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Yeah.

434
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Okay.

435
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It was then in the refugee camp that I made a promise to God.

436
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Oh, that's good.

437
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We were going through a tough time and I made a promise to God.

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I said, God, if you take us from this place and take to a better place, I will serve you.

439
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Yeah.

440
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Yeah.

441
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Yep.

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So coming to that story of serving God, so you guys got an opportunity to come to Australia.

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Yes.

444
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And when was that in?

445
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Which year was that?

446
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I don't remember.

447
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A long time ago.

448
00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:38,360
No, no, no.

449
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I, I don't remember exactly when it happened, but after, after, after, after, after, after,

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after, so what was happening in the refugee camp, if they, the, you, if UN sees that you

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are in danger, they will try their best to take you out of that place to overseas.

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So like America or Canada, Australia.

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And when it happened, because it happened a couple of times where they came and breaking

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into our tent, our house, so UN gave us an opportunity to go to America.

455
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My dad put through an application so that we can go to America.

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But then my mother said no.

457
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Wow.

458
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Wow.

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She said that God had not spoken.

460
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She did.

461
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Yeah.

462
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Yeah.

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So she said, I don't feel like God is sending us there.

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And you can imagine we are in the refugee camp.

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We want to get out of here.

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Mom, please.

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And she said, no, I, you know, you guys can go, but I'm not going anywhere because God

468
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had not said anything.

469
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Yes.

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That's hearing the voice of the Lord.

471
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Yes.

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My mother is a very proud, very powerful prayer.

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Even before the war took place, she actually had a dream about it.

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And she told the women that she will, she used to pray with a church.

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She told them exactly what was going to happen.

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But no, no, she didn't know that we were going to end up in the refugee camp.

477
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But she told them that I saw us in tents in a different place.

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And it looks like this is something that is going to happen very soon.

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Within a few weeks, it happened.

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We were living in tents.

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So now in the refugee camp, dad gets this opportunity to go to America.

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And mom says no.

483
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And you can imagine we are all angry.

484
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Mom, why did you do that?

485
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Don't you love us?

486
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I want to eat burgers and chips.

487
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Yeah.

488
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Yeah.

489
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But then not long after she prayed about it and God showed her a different country, which

490
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was Australia.

491
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Wow.

492
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And then she told dad, she told us that, guess what, we are going to Australia.

493
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She didn't say Australia, but she described the country and it was a hundred percent Australia.

494
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She didn't know Australia.

495
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Did she say like beach and everything?

496
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She spoke about trees, animals, white people, blah, blah, blah.

497
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You know, like this white people, they love dogs.

498
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Sounds like America to me.

499
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:30,960
Anyway, she described the country and we knew it was Australia.

500
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And not long after dad went and put through a different application and we were accepted.

501
00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:38,120
Wow.

502
00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:43,720
How long from the application to arriving roughly?

503
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I'm not sure.

504
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Maybe eight months, a year.

505
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,240
That was very quick.

506
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,240
Yeah.

507
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,240
Yeah.

508
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,240
It was very quick.

509
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,240
Yeah.

510
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,240
Oh, wow.

511
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,240
So yeah.

512
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You go.

513
00:25:54,240 --> 00:26:00,080
I'm just like, wow, it's, it's incredible that you've got that opportunity to come to

514
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,720
Australia.

515
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,080
How was it like when you first came to Australia?

516
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:09,640
Was it like a big culture shock to you or like, you know, because I'm sure it was a

517
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,920
whole different environment compared to what you grew up in.

518
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:18,440
Would that, would you say culture shock by the whole society and culture here?

519
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:24,160
It was, it was, um, it was very different.

520
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,200
Actually we don't speak English.

521
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,680
We don't speak the language and it's hard to communicate.

522
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,760
You don't know where to get what and what.

523
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:32,760
Yeah, true.

524
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,480
The food is different.

525
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,640
People are different.

526
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:36,640
Everything is different.

527
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:37,640
The systems are different.

528
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:38,640
Everything.

529
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:39,640
Everything was totally different.

530
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:44,260
But because we knew that God was bringing us here, uh, we knew that everything was going

531
00:26:44,260 --> 00:26:45,260
to be okay.

532
00:26:45,260 --> 00:26:52,640
We just, we came ready to learn and to, um, yeah, pretty much to learn.

533
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:53,640
Yeah.

534
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:54,640
It's part of society.

535
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,640
Yeah.

536
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:56,640
Yeah.

537
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,640
My journey in life hasn't ended because it's not in Africa.

538
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,840
God has moved us on.

539
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,680
His purpose and plan is still very much the same as, yeah.

540
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:05,680
Yeah.

541
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:10,320
And also because we're a big, we are a big family, um, we're still together.

542
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,480
We talk, we, you know, we share ideas.

543
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,040
So we still have this beautiful community of a family.

544
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,040
Yeah.

545
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,120
So it wasn't that bad.

546
00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:21,120
Yeah.

547
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:28,800
So let's go into, um, when, what was it like when coming to Australia that you started,

548
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,800
how old were you when you first came to Australia?

549
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:31,800
I was 19.

550
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:32,800
19.

551
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:33,800
Yeah.

552
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:34,800
All right.

553
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,640
So coming at the age of 19, what was it that you felt?

554
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:46,480
Did you feel God leading you, uh, into ministry at that time or what, what did you sort of,

555
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,160
it's sort of like, okay, I'm here now in Australia.

556
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,160
What now?

557
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,160
What do I do?

558
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:56,480
Well, firstly, I remember, I would always remember the promise I made to God.

559
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,480
Yes.

560
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:58,480
Okay.

561
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,760
When we were in the refugee camp, I said, if you take us from this place, I will serve

562
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:02,760
you.

563
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,760
Yep.

564
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:09,040
Even though I didn't know what it meant to serve God, but I knew that I had to do something

565
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,040
about it, but I didn't know how to do it.

566
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,520
Um, and that bothered me a lot, a lot.

567
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,800
No one knew except me and God.

568
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:22,420
I just could not see anywhere at all to serve the Lord.

569
00:28:22,420 --> 00:28:25,560
And I didn't know how to, I can't even speak English.

570
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:26,560
Yeah, true.

571
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,400
So like, what am I going to do?

572
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,400
Yeah.

573
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,320
But by God's grace, I went to call, um, to uni.

574
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:43,880
Um, after I finished my diploma, I went to uni and it was at uni where I made, um, young

575
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,880
girls and boys who loved the Lord.

576
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:54,640
I went to this life group at uni and then I realized that everyone was on fire for Jesus.

577
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:55,640
Wow.

578
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,640
I was like, Lord, I want this.

579
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,240
How come I'm not like this?

580
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,840
Everyone loves Jesus.

581
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:09,400
And I sat down there and I listened to them, the way they worship, the way they, um, share

582
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,400
the gospel.

583
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,240
They are so excited and I wasn't there.

584
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,240
And I was heartbroken.

585
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,240
Yeah.

586
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,080
I was like, this is where I supposed to be.

587
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,760
This is who I was, but I knew this was my life, but I didn't have it.

588
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,360
And it bothered me a lot.

589
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,600
I didn't know how to have it.

590
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,560
And I was actually embarrassed to go back there because I felt like a stranger in that

591
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,560
place.

592
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:34,560
Yeah.

593
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,560
Yeah.

594
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,520
Even though I grew up, I was born in a Christian home, but what, I don't know.

595
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:44,120
I feel like now when I go back and I think about it, I feel like it was something that

596
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:49,200
God just simply put in me just to stir up my spirit.

597
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,200
Yeah.

598
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,200
Yes.

599
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,800
Um, so I didn't want to go back to that life group because I felt like a stranger.

600
00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,000
I wasn't where they are and I didn't want to be embarrassed.

601
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:07,080
I didn't want anyone to ask me to pray or to share the word.

602
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,080
I didn't know how to.

603
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,080
So I decided I'm not going back there.

604
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,080
I said, Lord, just let me go.

605
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:16,840
I said, I'm not going back there as a lot, just help me read the Bible and understand

606
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,880
you and lead me where you want me to be.

607
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:20,880
Yeah.

608
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,880
Wow.

609
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:22,880
Yeah.

610
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:28,640
And then, um, after I finished uni, I long story short, I became sick.

611
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,120
I was very sick and very, very sick.

612
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:38,400
Um, it was then that I decided to, it's not like I decided.

613
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:48,360
I had no choice, but to stay at home and study the Bible, worship the Lord, pray and fast.

614
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:49,360
Wow.

615
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,160
And this went on for three years.

616
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,160
Oh, wow.

617
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,160
Yes.

618
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,160
I couldn't go to work.

619
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,160
I couldn't study.

620
00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:01,040
I couldn't do anything because I was too sick during that journey.

621
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,520
Then I met Jesus.

622
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,520
Oh, wow.

623
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,640
Remember how I wanted to be on fire for Jesus.

624
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:07,640
Yeah.

625
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,880
And after suffering, I met Jesus.

626
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:11,880
Wow.

627
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:12,880
Yes.

628
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:20,760
I, I just, um, it was huge journey that I went through and, um, yeah, I don't know.

629
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,960
Like, yeah, it's incredible.

630
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,680
That's incredible because you know, when we are suffering, the first thing is we need

631
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,840
someone to blame and most likely it's Jesus.

632
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,080
Oh, why did you do this to me?

633
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,080
Yeah.

634
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,080
What's the purpose?

635
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,320
I've promised to serve you and I am serving you.

636
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,160
Why are you doing this to me?

637
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,160
And I think that's the first thing we would ever do.

638
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,560
But the fact that you actually came closer to Jesus during that suffering sees a lot.

639
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:47,560
Yeah, exactly.

640
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,560
Right.

641
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,160
Sort of like God, I've never done anything to deserve this.

642
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,460
You know, I'm a good person by my own standards or whatever.

643
00:31:56,460 --> 00:32:01,520
Sometimes we can, you know, speak to God like that, I guess, or think that way.

644
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,560
Um, well, I did.

645
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:04,560
Yeah.

646
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:05,560
I don't blame you.

647
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,960
Believe me, believe me, it was too painful not to think about that.

648
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,640
Yeah, I could imagine.

649
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:12,640
Yeah.

650
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,000
I could really imagine.

651
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:20,880
But then once again, sort of going back earlier on in your life, we see that how that promise

652
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,240
you made to God was in a terrible situation.

653
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,240
Yeah.

654
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,280
And then fast forward to you being sick.

655
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,420
Yeah.

656
00:32:28,420 --> 00:32:33,160
In another terrible situation was where you met the Lord.

657
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,160
Yes.

658
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:39,960
And then going from a promise to the Lord, to meeting the Lord really shows how, I guess,

659
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:46,600
like with Moses, where it wasn't when he was a prince of Egypt that he received the fullness

660
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,360
and God spoke to him.

661
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,760
It was while he was out in the desert in the wilderness, feeling like he had nothing to

662
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,760
offer God.

663
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:54,760
Yes.

664
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,560
And then God's like, okay, now you're ready.

665
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,600
Do you feel like that was something similar for you?

666
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:01,600
Absolutely.

667
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:08,000
I feel like it was something similar because if I go back and I think about it, there's

668
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,920
no reason why I suffered that way.

669
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:19,560
I was actually before it happened, it was a time where I came to myself and I said,

670
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,800
okay, remember that promise you made to God?

671
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,840
I think you need to start studying the Bible.

672
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:24,840
Yeah.

673
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,880
And found a church, a small church.

674
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,920
At that time I was attending his song.

675
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:29,920
Okay.

676
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,120
And I said to myself, you need a small church where you can get to know people who love

677
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:40,600
the Lord and then they can help you grow in the Lord and then focus on studying God's

678
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,600
word.

679
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,240
So I had already started doing that.

680
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:49,720
I had joined a small church and then I was already fasting and praying.

681
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,920
So I was already into it for like three months.

682
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,400
And then it was that time, during that time that I became sick.

683
00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,400
Oh, wow.

684
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:00,400
Exactly.

685
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,680
So I was already seeking the Lord.

686
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,080
I was actually like so excited for him.

687
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,560
So that's why what you're saying, blaming God, like, hang on, I'm not doing anything

688
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,560
wrong.

689
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,600
I actually was not doing anything wrong.

690
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,720
I was seeking God.

691
00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:18,600
I was hungry for him.

692
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,040
I was crying out to him.

693
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,160
I wanted to know him.

694
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,080
I wanted to love him more.

695
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,960
And then from nowhere, boom.

696
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:28,960
Incredible.

697
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:29,960
Wow.

698
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:30,960
Wow.

699
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,960
It's sort of like you feel like you're at that point in your life.

700
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,600
All right, I'm ready now.

701
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:36,960
God, I'm ready.

702
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,320
It's only going to be uphill from here.

703
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,960
And then it was just a snowball down into life.

704
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:43,960
Yeah.

705
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:44,960
Wow.

706
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:45,960
Yeah.

707
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:52,160
Continue on in that journey of that process where from when you got sick, what were some

708
00:34:52,160 --> 00:35:00,400
of the experiences, spiritual experiences that you had in that time of what would you

709
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,280
say, your rough time?

710
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:10,520
Okay, one of the experiences I had, I still don't understand what it is.

711
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,280
I remember one day I actually used to fast a lot.

712
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,400
Why?

713
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,640
Because my mother fasts too much.

714
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:19,640
She loves fasting.

715
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:20,640
It rubbed off on you.

716
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,040
She talks to us about fasting.

717
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,320
She encourages us to fast all the times.

718
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:31,080
So at that time I knew what I needed to do was to fast and fast and fast and fast until

719
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,440
mom was tired of it.

720
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,440
Until she started complaining.

721
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:34,440
She's like, no, you need to eat.

722
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,440
And I'm like, no, I'm fasting.

723
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:36,440
I'd be like, okay.

724
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,440
I'm hungry.

725
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:45,460
I remember one day my family coming together.

726
00:35:45,460 --> 00:35:50,400
My brother who was no longer at home and all my other sisters, they all came together.

727
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,080
They said, we have a meeting today.

728
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,360
I was like, okay.

729
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,600
I didn't know what the meeting was about.

730
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:02,320
And then I came to realize that it was about me, that I need to eat.

731
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,640
So everybody bought a plate to feed you?

732
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,880
Your favorite food is right there.

733
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:08,880
What do you want?

734
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:15,840
But anyway, so one day I woke up in the morning, early in the morning, just that kind of person

735
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,440
who loves waking up early morning for prayers.

736
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:24,480
I woke up five, just praying and studying God's word.

737
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,200
I went back to bed around like seven hours tired.

738
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,720
I was like, oh, let me just lay on the bed for a moment.

739
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:38,160
And then from nowhere, it's just like the atmosphere changed in my room.

740
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,640
The atmosphere changed.

741
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,520
The room looked different.

742
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,960
I don't know how to explain.

743
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,800
Like I can't tell you how it looked.

744
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:53,640
It's just those things you can't even express in words, but it was no longer my room.

745
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:58,000
And then I heard myself coming out of my body.

746
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:04,840
I just knew I was coming out of my body, but then I didn't have the power to say no or

747
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,200
to remain in my body.

748
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:13,000
I'm coming out of my body and I can feel it myself coming out and it's so painful.

749
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,360
And I realized I was out.

750
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,360
Wow.

751
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,960
So now I'm just somewhere.

752
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,840
I don't know what I was somewhere in the universe.

753
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:23,840
It's not your room anymore.

754
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,680
I'm not in my room.

755
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:26,880
And then I'm just there.

756
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,880
I can't see my body because I don't have a body, but I know I'm there.

757
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,320
I'm there, but I don't see my body and I don't.

758
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,320
I'm looking around.

759
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,320
I don't see anybody.

760
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:41,720
I don't see anything and I'm not hearing anybody and I want to go back in my body.

761
00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:44,240
And I'm not able to do that.

762
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:47,280
And I just said, Lord, please, can you take me back in my body?

763
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,280
I'm worried.

764
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,280
I pray.

765
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:54,280
I ask you, Jesus, please put me back in my body.

766
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,280
I'm worried.

767
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,280
Where am I?

768
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,600
What's happening to me?

769
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:07,640
And the moment I spot him, I came back in my body slowly, gently, slowly in my body.

770
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,080
But that was so painful.

771
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:15,760
If anything is so painful, it's coming out of your body and coming back into your body

772
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,480
for three, five hours.

773
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:23,720
My entire body, after that experience, my entire body was destroyed, like a broken.

774
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:25,320
I couldn't lift a thing.

775
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,000
I couldn't do nothing.

776
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,000
I was so exhausted.

777
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,720
I was so tired.

778
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:32,760
Oh my goodness.

779
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,680
So that is one of the things that happened to me.

780
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:42,120
But then after that, after it happened, within a few weeks, same thing.

781
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,760
I wake up in the morning for prayers.

782
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:44,760
I'm worshiping.

783
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,400
I'm praying, studying God's will, going back to bed.

784
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,760
And then I realized it happened again.

785
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,240
I was in the universe somewhere.

786
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:56,280
And I said, Lord, put me back in my body.

787
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,280
Please, Jesus.

788
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:58,280
Wow.

789
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:03,680
The moment I say Jesus, every time I say Jesus, I'll see myself coming back in my body.

790
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:04,680
Really?

791
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,120
It happened three times.

792
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,120
Wow.

793
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:15,280
The third time, after I came out of my body and I came back to myself, I knelt down before

794
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,560
my bed and I cried to the Lord.

795
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:23,360
I said, Lord, if you know exactly what's happening to me right now, please make sure it doesn't

796
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,360
happen to me again.

797
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,360
Oh wow.

798
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,360
I prayed.

799
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,440
I said, Lord, I'm tired of these experiences.

800
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,840
I don't know what this is and I'm not learning anything.

801
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:38,280
I felt like I was just going through pain and I'm not learning anything.

802
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,280
At least let there be a reason.

803
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,280
Exactly.

804
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,960
And then I prayed.

805
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,800
I said, Lord, I will know that you know what's happening to me and that you are with me if

806
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,440
it does not happen to me again.

807
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:52,440
Never happened again.

808
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,440
Never happened again.

809
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,440
Wow.

810
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,040
But going back and thinking about it, I just know that the name of Jesus is powerful.

811
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,040
Yeah.

812
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,560
Because unless I sport the name Jesus, I wouldn't have come back in my body.

813
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:03,560
Wow.

814
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:04,560
Yeah.

815
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:05,560
Wow.

816
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:10,720
So go forward to the time where you met Jesus, where you had that encounter.

817
00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:16,640
Where along in the journey were you of that three years of sickness?

818
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,640
Beginning.

819
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:18,640
Right at the beginning.

820
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:19,640
Right at the beginning.

821
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,640
Okay.

822
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:21,640
Yeah.

823
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:22,640
Right at the beginning.

824
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:23,640
Yeah.

825
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,080
So that was something that you were about to go through a really rough season.

826
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,080
Yeah.

827
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,480
But the Lord revealed himself to you at the very start.

828
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:31,920
At the very start, yes.

829
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,600
And so that gave you a foundation to get through that season.

830
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,560
It did give me a foundation.

831
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:45,400
I felt like there was, I came to understand that there is a spiritual realm, like there's

832
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,920
actually a spiritual world.

833
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:47,920
Yeah.

834
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,800
Because I was not in the physical world.

835
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:55,680
I still wouldn't be able to explain to you what happened to me, why and all this information.

836
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,240
It's something that the Lord hasn't revealed to me yet.

837
00:40:58,240 --> 00:40:59,240
Yeah.

838
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:04,600
But all I know is that at that time I felt like, oh, so it's true.

839
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:05,600
One day I will die.

840
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,600
One day I will come out of my body.

841
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:08,600
Yeah.

842
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:09,600
And I will not be able to come back.

843
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:10,600
Yeah.

844
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:11,920
So it's true.

845
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,960
Jesus has power over death and life.

846
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:15,960
Yeah.

847
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:23,200
Those things came to me and really like encouraged me to love him more and to serve him and to

848
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,680
trust him that anything is possible.

849
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:26,680
Yeah.

850
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,840
I thought more about death at that time.

851
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:30,840
Yeah.

852
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:38,200
I guess sort of like throughout my Christian walk, there are things that happen or you

853
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,760
see take place or whatever.

854
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:47,640
Like I shared this in a testimony last week where in my early to mid teens, I believe

855
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:53,760
it was, we had a man of God come over from America who knew no one in our church, but

856
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:59,440
would just bring forth a word of knowledge over like 70 to 90 people.

857
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,520
And it's undeniable.

858
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:08,240
God is speaking through a man to the congregation and so accurately and there's no mistake.

859
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:09,400
No mistake.

860
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:14,520
And then it comes to that point, no matter what anyone says, I could never doubt the

861
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,520
way the Holy Spirit moves, that the gifts are for today and all that sort of thing.

862
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:24,640
So there are things that happen in our life that is very foundational that God allows

863
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:30,040
us to go through or whatever, but it becomes a pillar in our walk.

864
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:36,880
We may not understand why it's happening or whatever, but later on in life, it becomes

865
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:43,440
that strength for when we're walking in the perfect will of God for our lives.

866
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,440
Amen.

867
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:45,440
It's incredible.

868
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,440
Yeah.

869
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,320
So we're talking about later on in your life.

870
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,320
Let's talk about what you're doing.

871
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,320
Also hang on.

872
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,320
Go ahead.

873
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,720
I like what you're saying about the Holy Spirit and the accuracy of God's word.

874
00:42:56,720 --> 00:43:02,880
Because before that happened to me, there's actually a woman who came to me and prophesied

875
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,680
and no one wants to hear those negative prophecies.

876
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:06,680
We want a blessing.

877
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,880
Like perfect, amazing.

878
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,280
And she said to me, Junia, the Lord gave me a word for you.

879
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,840
I said, okay.

880
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,360
I'm that three months of like seeking the Lord.

881
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,200
I'm excited, but I'm okay.

882
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:27,680
And she comes and she says to me that God is going to allow you go through a tough season.

883
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:38,040
You're going to go in to experience deep dark moment or season, but the Lord will be with

884
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,040
you.

885
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,760
And during that season, the Lord is going to reveal himself to you.

886
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,600
And after that, the Lord will use you greatly.

887
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,640
I was like, I like the last part of it.

888
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,880
Let's fast forward to the end.

889
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,040
No, no, that's amazing.

890
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,040
Yeah.

891
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:02,880
So coming to that, like from my last question is like, what are you doing now?

892
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:10,720
Because I know there've been such difficulties, difficult season, as you said in your life

893
00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:14,040
that has shaped you spiritually.

894
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:19,680
And I just want to know what you're doing now with all that experience you've had.

895
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,520
So talk about your present time.

896
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,960
What are you doing for the Lord now?

897
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:24,960
Amen.

898
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:25,960
Okay.

899
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,760
Going back, sorry for taking you back.

900
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:28,760
No, no, that's all good.

901
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:36,720
During that time, probably like a year, year and a half later, there's a lady or another

902
00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:44,560
woman and different woman who I met for the first time and she saw me and she said, what's

903
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:45,560
your name?

904
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:46,880
I told her I'm Eunia.

905
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,080
And she said, God is going to use you a lot.

906
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,880
You're going to be preaching here in Australia.

907
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,360
I see you moving, going to different places.

908
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,080
You're preaching the gospel and I see you moving in power.

909
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,080
And I'm like, what are you talking about?

910
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,000
I see you doing this and this and you're traveling around the world.

911
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,000
You're preaching the gospel.

912
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,000
You're doing this and this.

913
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,560
And she said a lot of things.

914
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:11,720
I actually, I think I still have a short clip of video of her saying those things to me,

915
00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:17,880
but I haven't watched it since she said those things to me, but I know I have it somewhere.

916
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:23,480
So when I was suffering during that time of suffering, I have this woman who spoke to

917
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:28,000
me before it happened and I have this lady who's coming and encouraging me.

918
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,000
Halfway through.

919
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,000
Halfway through.

920
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:36,120
So these were like my pillars.

921
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:41,200
When we are suffering, sometimes we forget about the word of God and what God said to

922
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:42,200
us.

923
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,880
But for me, it was an encouragement for me.

924
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,560
I always would remember what God said.

925
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,520
God said, you're going to be okay.

926
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,400
God said this will happen.

927
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,560
So those things really encouraged me a lot.

928
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,920
So you're asking what I'm doing right now.

929
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,880
So that lady spoke those things that she saw me preaching the gospel and doing stuff, but

930
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,920
I didn't take her seriously, to be honest.

931
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:13,960
But after the Lord healed me and delivered me completely, before then he gave me a great

932
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:14,960
half for people.

933
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,400
I just loved people like crazy.

934
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,120
I wanted to serve people.

935
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,680
I wanted to go out and tell everyone about Jesus.

936
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,040
It was my passion.

937
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,800
I'll go in the shopping center.

938
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,560
I'll lead people to a cross.

939
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,680
I'll go to the petrol station.

940
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,840
I'll lead people to cross.

941
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,800
Like anywhere I'll lead people to a cross.

942
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:41,320
But there are times where they'll ask me questions and I'll be like, I don't know how to answer

943
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,320
that.

944
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:48,200
And then after I got delivered, I said, okay, you near, how about you go to college and

945
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,200
study?

946
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,600
So that's the time.

947
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,920
That's the reason why I went to college to study.

948
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,880
And when I went to college, remember the promise I made to God?

949
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,960
Still not happening at the moment.

950
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:03,160
And when I went to college, I was praying to God.

951
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,080
I said, God, I really want to serve you.

952
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,160
I promise you that I will serve you.

953
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:13,320
And you have showed me so many great things and I want people to know you, but I still

954
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,800
know, I don't know how to serve you.

955
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,520
So I went to college.

956
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,800
In my second year, first semester, I did a preaching class.

957
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:29,560
It was then that I delivered my first sermon and my lecturer said to me that I was called

958
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,640
in the area of preaching.

959
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:39,600
He said, you need to pursue preaching, you near, because this is your area.

960
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:45,480
And then another confirmation, just another person just backing up.

961
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,120
But that was like pretty much very specific.

962
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,680
God is calling you into preaching.

963
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,240
I was very specific and I wanted to hear that.

964
00:47:55,240 --> 00:47:58,960
But I did not see myself as a preacher.

965
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,120
He saw something I did not see in myself.

966
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:08,920
And then within three months from the time that where he spoke to me, he told me those

967
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:16,360
words from college, I was connected to some churches and I start preaching in some churches.

968
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:21,960
And then within six to seven months, I was like almost four to every Sunday.

969
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,440
So since 2022 until today, I'm a preacher.

970
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:26,440
Wow.

971
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:27,440
Amazing.

972
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,080
I preach in different churches.

973
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,600
Every Sunday morning, I'm just traveling.

974
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:32,600
Wow.

975
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:33,600
That's incredible.

976
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,240
Preaching the youth groups.

977
00:48:35,240 --> 00:48:38,520
And it's just been a blessing for me.

978
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,400
And last year I went to India.

979
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,480
I preached in many places in India.

980
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,240
Which is a difficult thing to do.

981
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:49,240
It was amazing.

982
00:48:49,240 --> 00:48:52,040
And I remember that she also said I will be preaching overseas.

983
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,280
I was like, it's happening already.

984
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:57,280
It's amazing.

985
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,280
It's incredible.

986
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,280
I know you.

987
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,920
So yes, I do the preaching.

988
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:08,040
I'm an artisanal preacher, but I also love evangelism.

989
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,400
I do street evangelism.

990
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,720
And that's something that I, it's just everything to me.

991
00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:14,720
I love evangelism.

992
00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:22,600
That's incredible because that would be most believers' greatest struggle to go out and

993
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,680
just street preach.

994
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,840
It would be one of the most intimidating things for most people.

995
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:34,860
Do you feel like God, when God placed that love for people in your heart, that there's

996
00:49:34,860 --> 00:49:38,240
an anointing and a power to do it.

997
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:42,960
Like do you really feel like you have received something from the Lord to be able to do that?

998
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:43,960
Absolutely.

999
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:51,240
And also the journey I went through made me believe that there was nothing in this world

1000
00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:53,360
for me except Jesus.

1001
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:54,360
Wow.

1002
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,840
I came to realize that everything is in vain.

1003
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,840
Like everything is useless without the Lord.

1004
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:05,560
And if I can live another day to make him known, then I am blessed.

1005
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:06,560
That's powerful.

1006
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:07,560
I would have died.

1007
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:08,560
I would have died.

1008
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:09,560
Yep.

1009
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,440
And there was no one else to serve me.

1010
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,640
By the way, the doctors couldn't help me at that time.

1011
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,680
So the only hope I had was Jesus.

1012
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,040
He came through for me.

1013
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,800
He saved my life.

1014
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,360
How can I be ashamed?

1015
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:25,360
It's impossible.

1016
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,960
It's impossible for me to be ashamed.

1017
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:37,200
So I believe that that journey I went through, so that journey God gave me this passion and

1018
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,200
he made me feel, I don't know how to explain this.

1019
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:42,200
I wouldn't say fearless.

1020
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:47,240
There's a times where I feel like I'm scared, but then I'll be like, no, this is remember

1021
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:48,240
you're serving Jesus.

1022
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:50,240
Remember what he's done for you.

1023
00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:52,240
And I'll be like, boom, I'm going.

1024
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And sometimes I'll count to one, two, three, go for it.

1025
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,280
But what I hear here is confidence.

1026
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,120
You have a lot of confidence and I don't know.

1027
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:07,800
I wouldn't say it's confidence, but all I know, I love Jesus.

1028
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:14,000
And really that proves that you know, it's not you as the street preacher.

1029
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,000
It's the Holy Spirit.

1030
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,000
Absolutely.

1031
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,000
Yes.

1032
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,000
And that's what makes the difference.

1033
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,000
Exactly.

1034
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,000
Cause they do have that fear.

1035
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:24,040
That's what I'm saying that I wouldn't say I don't have fear because there are times

1036
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,840
where I feel like I'm shaking.

1037
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:26,840
Yeah.

1038
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,120
But then from nowhere, I'll be like, ah, this is Jesus.

1039
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:31,560
You are serving.

1040
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,480
This is what he wants you to do.

1041
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:34,480
Yeah.

1042
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,840
This is what you're supposed to be doing.

1043
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:37,840
Yeah.

1044
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:38,840
You're going to put a smile on his face.

1045
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,520
I always want to put him a smile on his face.

1046
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:42,520
Yeah, absolutely.

1047
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:43,520
Yeah.

1048
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:44,800
And then I just go ahead and do it.

1049
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:45,800
That's fantastic.

1050
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:46,800
That is so good.

1051
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,440
So preaching on the street is something that I'm passionate about.

1052
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,080
I love doing that.

1053
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,320
I have seen so many great things happening on the street.

1054
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,000
It's just so beautiful.

1055
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,920
Oh, I bet.

1056
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:05,400
I'll live every second of my life preaching the gospel on the street.

1057
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,680
Yes.

1058
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:14,440
I remember street preaching and evangelizing in Woodridge train station.

1059
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:15,440
Okay.

1060
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,320
And we were doing that for quite a few weeks.

1061
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,480
We would get together on a Thursday night.

1062
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,720
We would pray, pray together.

1063
00:52:21,720 --> 00:52:26,960
And then some people would stay and intercede and then others would go out.

1064
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:33,880
And I remember such intimidation at first, like, I can't do this.

1065
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:40,280
But once you're there, there's, you know, the Lord smiling, like on the inside of you.

1066
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:41,280
Yeah.

1067
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:42,280
If you know what I mean.

1068
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,600
It's, I know I'm doing what God wants me to do.

1069
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,080
It's a very simple thing, but powerful.

1070
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:55,240
And it just pleases the Lord when we can go out and testify just to anyone.

1071
00:52:55,240 --> 00:53:00,520
Because the hopelessness that people have, believe it or not, last night I was watching

1072
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:05,520
a video on this guy that I used to watch him years and years ago.

1073
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,720
And now he's, he released some video and I was watching it.

1074
00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:12,400
He's not a Christian.

1075
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:20,000
But the deadness and the emptiness inside of his life, all his pursuits failed him.

1076
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,080
And there's just nothing there.

1077
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:28,020
And just like what you said before, there's nothing in this world that can really satisfy,

1078
00:53:28,020 --> 00:53:29,020
it's all vanity.

1079
00:53:29,020 --> 00:53:30,020
Yes, it is.

1080
00:53:30,020 --> 00:53:32,520
And I saw this in this man.

1081
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:39,840
So from what you've been saying and really what I watched last night, I totally understand

1082
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:40,840
what you're saying.

1083
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:45,400
Well, thank you for being here on this show.

1084
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:52,360
And I feel like our viewers have heard your story and they're listening to this and I'm

1085
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:59,280
sure they're like, wow, either they feel like they're so blessed to have such a wonderful

1086
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:00,280
life.

1087
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:06,080
Second, I feel like some viewers want, you know, they want to use their life in much

1088
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:10,200
profound ways for the kingdom of God after listening to your story.

1089
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,280
And I feel that too.

1090
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:17,400
And I feel like I've, you know, I've come also from a very different background, but

1091
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:23,280
not, you know, I've still got everything like my family provided for me.

1092
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,400
So in some ways I'm very grateful.

1093
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,480
I've not gone through the struggles you have.

1094
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:35,480
But now when I hear your story, I'm like, wow, you know, I'm putting myself in your

1095
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:40,680
shoe and I feel like I would be in a situation where I would like be questioning God.

1096
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:41,880
Why are you doing this to me?

1097
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,440
Like come on.

1098
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,320
Yeah, I am serving you.

1099
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,680
You know, there are other friends out there who don't even serve you and having a comfortable

1100
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:50,680
life.

1101
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,560
Why are you doing this to me?

1102
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,200
But then again, when we are called by God, it's not going to be an easy walk.

1103
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:57,200
Yes.

1104
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,440
It's with, you know, ups and downs.

1105
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,400
And sometimes we go through so much persecution, so much sickness.

1106
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:08,000
And that's because the devil's attacking you because he knows that you're for fire.

1107
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:12,200
I can see the fire that is within you to serve the kingdom.

1108
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,000
So thank you for being in this show.

1109
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,000
Thank you so much.

1110
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,000
Thank you so much.

1111
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:20,320
And you know, what would you like to tell our viewers who are listening, something that

1112
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,020
is in your heart that you would like to tell this viewers of ours?

1113
00:55:23,020 --> 00:55:25,000
So you can look into the camera and tell.

1114
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,000
Okay.

1115
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,320
What would you like to tell the viewers?

1116
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:35,240
What I would love to tell you or to, I don't know if it's to tell you or to encourage you

1117
00:55:35,240 --> 00:55:37,420
is more about patience.

1118
00:55:37,420 --> 00:55:40,940
It's important to be patient as children of God.

1119
00:55:40,940 --> 00:55:48,440
Things will not always be easy and quick, but if you know that God has say something

1120
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,020
to you, then it'll come to pass.

1121
00:55:51,020 --> 00:55:54,340
It doesn't matter how long it's taking.

1122
00:55:54,340 --> 00:56:02,180
When I was sick, I received a word halfway that I was going to be healed completely,

1123
00:56:02,180 --> 00:56:07,520
but then it took another year, year and a half before it happened.

1124
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:13,920
There was a time where I felt like God had let me down, but it was not true.

1125
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:18,060
God is always on time and God always knows what he's doing.

1126
00:56:18,060 --> 00:56:21,640
And I feel like it's important for us to learn how to trust him.

1127
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:28,400
But I just want to encourage you, the listeners, to trust God and to wait patiently for him

1128
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:34,520
because only those who wait, only those who wait, we eat the best.

1129
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:35,520
Amen.

1130
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:36,520
Amen.

1131
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,160
Amen to that.

1132
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,200
So yeah, waiting on God.

1133
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:46,000
Well on that note, would you like to pray for us and we can conclude this show?

1134
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,000
Amen.

1135
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,000
Yeah.

1136
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,800
And Father, we just give you all the praises.

1137
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,360
We thank you for your grace and for your love.

1138
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:56,360
We thank you because you are the same yesterday, today and forever.

1139
00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:00,720
We thank you because you are our heavenly Father who loves us so much and you care for

1140
00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:01,720
us.

1141
00:57:01,720 --> 00:57:09,120
We thank you for the story, my journey with you, how you saved my life, how you delivered

1142
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:16,120
me, how you kept me safe, how you blessed me, how you have used me in many different

1143
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:23,920
ways for your glory, Jesus, even though I thought that I was the least of them all.

1144
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:31,320
But Lord, we see your grace and we believe and trust that you, oh Lord, are doing even

1145
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:37,120
greater things in the lives of those who are listening to us right now.

1146
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:43,380
We just pray for anyone who is suffering, whether through sicknesses or diseases or

1147
00:57:43,380 --> 00:57:51,680
any kinds of suffering, whatever it is, Lord, we just pray that you empower them, that your

1148
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:58,520
grace is raised upon them, that they are faithful to you, that they do not lose hope, that they

1149
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:05,640
continue to trust you and wait on you because you are the good, good Father who loves your

1150
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:09,720
children and you are always looking after them.

1151
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:16,720
Lord, I just pray that you release your anointing and power upon them, upon everyone listening

1152
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,120
to us right now.

1153
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:24,800
Lord, I just pray that you revive their hearts and spirits and mind for your glory, Jesus,

1154
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:31,000
that they stand up and rise up and do the things that you have called them to do, oh

1155
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,000
Father God.

1156
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:39,040
Lord, I just pray for your favor upon them, that oh God, that wherever they go, they see

1157
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:46,920
your face, they see your hand of Father God and that they know who they are in this world,

1158
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:52,280
that they remind themselves that they are daughters and sons of the living God called

1159
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:58,560
to know you, to love you, to serve you and to make you known, that they do not turn away

1160
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:03,800
from you but that they focus on fulfilling the mission that you have called them to do.

1161
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,200
Lord, we praise you and we honor you.

1162
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,640
Thank you for this program, thank you for this podcast.

1163
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:15,720
May you continue to bless this podcast and bring more amazing people who have amazing

1164
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,200
stories to share.

1165
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:23,520
We love you Jesus and we appreciate you and we pray this in your mighty precious name.

1166
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:24,520
Amen.

1167
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:25,520
Amen.

1168
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:26,520
Thank you, Eunia.

1169
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:27,520
Amen.

1170
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:33,880
Thank you everyone for joining us on episode one of Real Talk Friday, season two.

1171
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:38,880
We were truly blessed by this amazing story and we encourage you guys, if you have any

1172
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:43,480
testimonies and stories, reach out to us and not only for that but reach out to us if you

1173
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,820
want to know more about God.

1174
00:59:45,820 --> 00:59:51,120
You can see our details flashing on your screen and if you're listening to a podcast, it's

1175
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,020
definitely on the description there.

1176
00:59:53,020 --> 00:59:57,920
Reach out to us and we're going to help you in this journey because we all went through

1177
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:02,400
the same journey and I think we'd be more than happy to help you guys.

1178
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,680
So thank you again for joining us and I'm sure we will see you next time on Real Talk

1179
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:10,360
Friday.

1180
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:15,120
As we conclude our episode of Real Talk Friday, we extend our heartfelt gratitude to all our

1181
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,400
listeners for joining us on this enlightening journey.

1182
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,320
But our journey doesn't end here.

1183
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:26,200
Join us every Friday as we continue to uncover the real stories of real people where authenticity

1184
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,160
intersects with spirituality in profound ways.

1185
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:34,320
Together we'll navigate the complexities of life, finding inspiration and hope in the

1186
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:38,720
remarkable narratives shared within the walls of Logan City Christian Church.

1187
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:42,680
Thank you for tuning in and until next time, may your faith journey be filled with grace,

1188
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,520
understanding and the unwavering presence of God.

1189
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:58,720
Stay tuned for more Real Talk every Friday on Real Talk Friday.