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Welcome to Real Talk Friday with your hosts Rohan Das and Gus Urban.

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In this groundbreaking podcast segment, we delve deep into the lives of individuals whose

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journey has been profoundly transformed by their faith.

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From the trial of adversity to the triumph of redemption, we explore real stories, real

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people whose encounter with God has reshaped their existence.

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Join us as we embark on a candid and enlightening journey where authenticity meets spirituality

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every Friday on Real Talk Friday, part of Logan City Christian Church.

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Hello and welcome to another segment of Real Talk Friday.

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Today we're going to do a bit of a behind the scenes and we welcome our viewers, listeners

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and everyone that's joining us today.

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We have a little segment called Behind the Scenes that we thought we'd just bring to

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you because this helps us show you what we actually do in our show, the planning that

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takes place and try to bring relevant contents to you because we want to educate you in the

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best way possible and also educate ourselves because we've really been blessed by the people

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that have come to the show and told us some amazing testimony and stories.

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I am so blessed listening to them.

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It's so amazing.

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But we've started a new segment, we want to start a new segment in the future and I see

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you have a paper there with a bit of writing so I'll let you explain to our listeners

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what it's all about.

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Yeah, okay.

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Well, to all our viewers out there, Genetics in the Bible is going to be the new series.

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We're going to do a few different topics about genetics relating it to the Bible.

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It's going to be really, really great.

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Amazing.

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So, some of you, you know Rohan as our host.

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But for others...

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I hope so.

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I hope they know.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Well, for others, they actually know him as Dr. Rohan Raphael Das.

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And so, yeah, so Rohan, did you want to explain to our viewers a bit of your education as

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a doctor, where you really fit in the medical field and all that?

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So talk about your study.

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Well, so of course I came to Australia.

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This is a couple of years ago.

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And I came to do studies here.

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But I studied in the field of biomedical research and a lot of my research focused on genetics

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because that was my major.

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So my major was in genetics and molecular diagnostic.

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Molecular diagnostic.

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Yeah.

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Sounds tricky.

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It's fun.

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It's really fun.

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It's just kind of like a level two of genetics.

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It's just talking about how you can diagnose certain genetic conditions.

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And it's a lot of studies to do with genetic conditions.

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And it's amazing because I had, of course, amazing professors.

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So I studied at Bond University on the Gold Coast.

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And really good professors who really helped me kind of understand genetics in a fun way.

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Yeah, cool.

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And it does play a role when you have teachers that actually teach you in a way that you

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actually love to learn because then sometimes our experience kind of gives us our perspective

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on how good that subject is.

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Very true.

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If you have the worst teacher, you'd be like, oh, I don't want to do this subject.

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I was blessed to have good teachers.

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And I love genetics.

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And I went on to study that and then I was like, wow, I want to explore more, if I can,

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on genetics.

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So I worked on a research project that talked about PARP, P-A-R-P, which is polyadipy ribose

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polymerase.

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It's an enzyme.

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Okay, I've never heard of that before, but yeah.

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So what it does is, you know, when your cell dies in your body, we have a process called

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apoptosis, which is natural cell death.

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So essentially your body just kills the cell because it's useless.

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And this is also done in a cancer cell.

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So if a cancer cell becomes useless, it kills itself.

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And the process is governed by, you know, a complex method, but one key enzyme that

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plays a role in this is polyadipy ribose polymerase, P-A-R-P.

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There are 14 families of it and different cancer cells expresses different kinds of

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So what you can do is kind of make that a marker so that your chemicals can land on

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that cell and attach to that cell.

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Like a red flag.

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It's kind of like just putting a flag there and this is a damaged cell.

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And so my project was working on that.

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So it involved a lot of computational models to see what chemicals can bind to that.

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And then you can essentially use that, you know, mechanism in chemotherapy.

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And that's going to help, you know, kill that cancer cell, but not affect normal cells.

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Because where we see a lot of chemotherapy, it basically attacks everything.

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It's a very invasive process.

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Whereas what you're working on is a type of chemotherapy that doesn't attack the whole

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body, but it just attacks those red flagged cancer cells.

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I got it.

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Very, very interesting.

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That was my project.

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And later on did my further studies on it.

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I worked with, you know, big machines.

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Analytical chemistry machines.

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Got, you know, trained in it.

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And a lot of studies, I would say.

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Well, believe it or not, I've worked on big machines, but they're outside and they dig

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dirt.

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This one digs dead, but in a very molecular level.

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It does the same job.

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Yeah, molecular level.

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But yeah, I worked on that and I feel like we have some great segment that we're going

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to talk about.

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Oh, we will.

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And genetic is a very broad topic.

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But I love it because when I look at genetics, I look at, I see how great our God is.

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Sometimes we look at genetics and we look at science and we look at religion and we're

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like, no, these things don't compliment.

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But I think they do compliment.

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You know, we use science to understand how amazing God is in his creation.

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And there's a lot of things in science that we believe in faith.

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You know, it's just...

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As a scientist, you take it by faith.

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I haven't seen atoms, have I?

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But we believe it's there.

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Haven't seen it.

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Haven't touched it.

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Haven't like, but we believe it's there.

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It's by faith we believe.

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The same thing with, you know, the Bible.

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We walk by faith, not by sight.

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That's right.

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And that's what God calls us to do is have faith in him.

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And I feel that compliments.

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I don't know why people, you know, don't see that.

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I wouldn't say people, a lot of people, some people don't see that.

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No, that's right.

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But it does compliment each other so well.

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And I guess others don't want it to compliment.

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If someone doesn't believe in God and doesn't want to believe that there is a God that sent

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his son to die for the sins of the world and that, you know, whoever believes in him shall

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be saved.

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If they hate the thought of that, of having to repent and live a holy life, I guess, well,

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then evolution is a perfect theory or life choice, I guess you could say.

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To disprove truth.

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Oh, for sure.

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And so this is a beautiful thing of what we're going to get into, genetics and the Bible.

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A few things that I will quickly share with our listeners is we can get into, well, what

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we will get into is just the basic understanding of genes, like what are they, how they operate,

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gene structure and the science behind it, reproduction, genetic breakdown from generation

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to generation.

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I remember you shared with me one time that was incredible.

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And we're looking at it more in the biblical perspective because, you know, the Bible,

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you know, we have to understand this and what people really fail to understand is when we

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look at Genesis being written, we have to think about when it was written.

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It was written at a time where science wasn't a thing.

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No, that's right.

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But if we look at how it's written and the seven days of creation and we see the way

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the author has described each day of creation, we can see it's perfectly laid out of how,

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you know, Adam and Eve was created and before that, what happened for them to be created.

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There was a process.

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And there was day, there was night.

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There are so many things that in the Bible, it's only by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit,

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I believe, and inspiration of God that this would have done, would have been created.

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No, no, exactly right.

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And so we're going to get down into creation, Adam and Eve, generations from there.

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It's going to be fantastic.

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So and if anyone's going to talk about genetics, it's going to be this man here.

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I'm so pleased to be hearing that.

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And viewers, just to let you know, ages ago, before we were doing podcasts, before we started

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working together in the ministry, when I first met Rohan, we started talking about this at

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a burrito bar.

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Yeah, that's true.

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Eating Mexican food.

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Yeah, and talking about genetics.

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And it really, the Holy Spirit inspired this long ago.

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Yeah, for sure.

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And I remember saying to Rohan, because he was saying he feels the call of God for ministry

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and that.

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And with genetics in the Bible, Rohan, this is later on, this is going to prove itself

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to be such an evangelistic tool.

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I think that's very great because I remember sitting down and we were talking about such

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amazing thing.

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And I told you so many things and you're like, wow, I've never heard this before.

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No, no, that's not.

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And I was like, wow, I didn't know people don't know about this.

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But I think like I shared what was in my heart and sitting and studying and looking at how

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delicate and how amazing things are made in this world.

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I fail to believe there is no creator.

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There is a creator.

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It is so perfectly laid out, perfectly made.

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And there's a purpose for every single thing in our body that tells us there's a purpose

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in our life too.

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That there's no accident in what we have as a human being.

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And it's just amazing that genetics.

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So as I said, science and religion or science Christianity, they complement each other in

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my perspective very well.

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And so this is going to be the blessing coming to our viewers to see both of these things

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that were actually a taboo.

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Yeah, yeah, very true.

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In previous years are now actually as the technology of science advances, we're actually

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seeing more and more truth in God's word than a lot of theories of the world.

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That's very true.

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And you know, just thinking about the Human Genome Project, which was done in the early

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2000s, cost millions of dollars to do.

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They took DNA from a human body and they tried to get information from every single strand

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of DNA and form of ATGC codes and they made they had a hard drive full of that code.

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And it cost millions of dollars.

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Now you can do it for less than $100.

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And you can take a cheek sample and all your DNA is in that you can get your DNA incredible

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and it's become cheaper.

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So this field is of course a very brand new field because things have become less expensive.

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And you know, it's amazing after COVID and everything how cheap these machines have gotten

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because when you do a PCR test, you're actually doing some sort of DNA looking at RNA strands,

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which is in the viral.

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Viruses usually have RNA, which is a single nucleotide.

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So ribonucleic acid.

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That's another one that went over my head.

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And human beings have DNA, which is deoxyribonucleic acid.

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So this is a strand of DNA.

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So when they looked at RNA, they had to use very similar technology using the PCR machine.

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So it's become cheaper and COVID has made also things cheaper when it comes to DNA analysis.

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So I'll be honest with you.

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I think this field is booming and we don't know a lot about it.

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We know, I would say less than 20% of what the DNA stands for, even way less than that.

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I can tell you that.

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But we're starting to learn it's like God's put that information in us and his creation.

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He's like handwritten these things and he's put it in.

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And you know, there's something very exciting you shared with me.

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And of course, I knew it, but kind of didn't put it into perspective was if you take your

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DNA and you unwind it and you said, how long does it go from Earth to Pluto?

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Amazing.

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Yeah, talk to Google.

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I knew it was long, but didn't put it into perspective of how long that is.

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In the human DNA strand, apparently it's something ridiculously long.

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So yeah, well, there's a lot to discover.

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But I believe and I know God is the creator of all living things.

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Yeah.

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His word is true.

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There is no fault or lie in God's word.

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And I truly believe that as technology advances, especially with genetics and DNA, is that

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truth of God's word will get closer and closer to science as it advances.

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And it's at the end of the day, no matter how hard people try and suppress truth, it

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always comes to the surface.

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Amen to that.

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Yeah, that's very true.

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Yeah.

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I think, you know, sometimes, you know, when we buy, you love cars.

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I can't afford a good one, but I like them when I see them.

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And you've been a great help with my car because you know so much about cars.

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Yeah.

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You've helped me fix my car.

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But when we were fixing my car, I realised we kept on looking at the manual just to see,

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you know, how much oil it needs, what kind of filter it needs, whatever it needs.

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We're following that manual to fix that car.

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And if we did not follow that manual, we wouldn't know which oil, we know which filter, we would

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completely damage that car.

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So it is based on a set of instruction.

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And I feel the Bible is that set of instruction for us.

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Absolutely.

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We are like a mechanical object.

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And the Bible really helps us understand who we are, because that's our manual.

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We should go back to it.

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What is the purpose?

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What does this do?

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What does that do?

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Absolutely.

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That's very important.

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I mean, looking at, you know, life, it can be very challenging.

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Very.

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But we have a set of instruction that is right there.

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And some people want to damage the car by not following that instruction.

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Yeah, no, that's right.

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And that's sad.

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Well, unfortunately, some of these people that are damaging the car, so to speak, some

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of our top scientists and...

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Oh, yeah, for sure.

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Yeah, but it is what it is.

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As we're playing God, we think we know how to fix that car.

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We don't know how to fix that car, because it's only the inventor and the creator that

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actually knows what that car is and how he designed it and what it's meant to do.

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And that's the set of instructions we get.

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So anyone that loves cars, that's kind of, you know, telling you...

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There you go.

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We need instructions.

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We need instruction.

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God's Word is our instruction.

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We follow it.

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Truth is going to always come out, and God's Word is truth.

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Yeah, amen.

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So, yeah.

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Great.

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We're so blessed for all of you guys who are sharing and supporting this ministry.

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We really love what we do, and we really...

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We really...

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Because we go above and beyond to get to the best guests.

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And we have also guests that are also not from our church, but they generously want

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to be part of our show.

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That's right.

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Which is so amazing.

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Doors are opening.

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Doors are opening, yes.

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And it's all because of you, because of your prayers and your views, your support.

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And we want to really sincerely thank you and also thank the Church of Logan City Christian

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Church because we're using so much of their facilities and we're doing a show part of

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the church.

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And we're so excited that they've given us, you know, they blessed us with doing this

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show and they said, go ahead, do this show.

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Because I think God's really going to make a change in everyone's life using this show.

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No, that's right.

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So we thank the church too, and everyone that supports it.

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So thank you again for joining us for Behind the Scenes.

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And we hope that you enjoy our segments and you keep on enjoying our segments.

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And we're going to bring this beautiful topic of genetics very soon.

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So stay tuned, guys.

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As we conclude our episode of Real Talk Friday, we extend our heartfelt gratitude to all our

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listeners for joining us on this enlightening journey.

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But our journey doesn't end here.

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Join us every Friday as we continue to uncover the real stories of real people, where authenticity

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intersects with spirituality in profound ways.

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Together we'll navigate the complexities of life, finding inspiration and hope in the

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remarkable narratives shared within the walls of Logan City Christian Church.

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Thank you for tuning in.

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And until next time, may your faith journey be filled with grace, understanding and the

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unwavering presence of God.

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Stay tuned for more Real Talk every Friday on Real Talk Friday.

