WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.080 Welcome to Milestone Moments, the show where 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.960 we explore the journeys that lead to success. 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:10.220 I'm Sheila Slick, your host and founder of Five 00:00:10.220 --> 00:00:13.859 Milestones. In every episode, we will bring you 00:00:13.859 --> 00:00:17.100 insights from the minds of entrepreneurs, leaders 00:00:17.100 --> 00:00:20.820 and experts who will share not just their expertise, 00:00:20.879 --> 00:00:24.120 but the milestone moments that have reshaped 00:00:24.120 --> 00:00:27.059 their journeys and led to significant achievements. 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:30.359 So if you're looking for motivation, you're in 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:33.560 the right place. Subscribe now and discover the 00:00:33.560 --> 00:00:40.299 milestones that mark the path to success. Welcome 00:00:40.299 --> 00:00:43.700 to another episode of Milestone Moments in Business 00:00:43.700 --> 00:00:46.880 and Leadership. I'm Sheila Slick, your host. 00:00:47.060 --> 00:00:51.399 And today, my special guest is Sabine Kavenberg. 00:00:51.899 --> 00:00:55.159 As the founder and CEO of Impact Communication 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:58.960 Coaching, she specializes in empowering leaders, 00:00:59.259 --> 00:01:02.740 entrepreneurs, and teams to communicate with 00:01:02.740 --> 00:01:07.069 confidence, clarity, and presence. She is a keynote 00:01:07.069 --> 00:01:11.269 speaker and best -selling author who helps audiences 00:01:11.269 --> 00:01:15.629 master the invisible stage. Those everyday conversations 00:01:15.629 --> 00:01:19.730 where influence is built, trust is earned, and 00:01:19.730 --> 00:01:23.849 opportunities are won. Welcome to the show, Sabine. 00:01:23.989 --> 00:01:26.370 Thank you for having me, Sheila. I'm looking 00:01:26.370 --> 00:01:31.319 forward to it. I am too. I know a little bit 00:01:31.319 --> 00:01:35.280 about your origin and I love your story. You've 00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:39.359 spent decades as an actress, as a director, as 00:01:39.359 --> 00:01:42.959 a performing arts school founder, someone who 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:47.599 has lived on the stage professionally. So what 00:01:47.599 --> 00:01:50.959 was the pivotal moment that led you to do what 00:01:50.959 --> 00:01:58.459 you do today? I always have. lived the stage 00:01:58.459 --> 00:02:02.140 that was my life I was a stage and tv actress 00:02:02.140 --> 00:02:06.980 in Germany for 10 years and then I started directing 00:02:06.980 --> 00:02:11.319 traveling the world before I moved to the United 00:02:11.319 --> 00:02:15.740 States to open my performing art school so I 00:02:15.740 --> 00:02:18.180 was always in the entertainment industry and 00:02:18.180 --> 00:02:23.159 then in the capacity of the school I was teaching. 00:02:23.259 --> 00:02:27.000 I was also helping aspiring performers get in 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:29.580 front of agents and casting directors. And the 00:02:29.580 --> 00:02:34.300 one thing that I realized is the power of stories. 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:37.120 Of course, as an actress, I was telling stories. 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:41.000 But also as a director, I was telling stories 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:53.360 when I produced shows in my school. are when 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:56.439 we have a one -on -one conversation, when we 00:02:56.439 --> 00:03:00.159 communicate with others. Because my talent, aspiring 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:04.840 talent, they needed to speak also in front of 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:08.340 agents and casting directors besides having their 00:03:08.340 --> 00:03:12.680 audition piece ready. And when they started incorporating 00:03:12.680 --> 00:03:17.479 stories and being their authentic self, getting 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:21.539 rid of the fear of having a conversation. Everything 00:03:21.539 --> 00:03:25.219 changed. And when I was done with my school, 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:28.039 see, we all go through different stages, right? 00:03:28.539 --> 00:03:32.060 That was the moment when I realized, okay, now 00:03:32.060 --> 00:03:35.319 I have to make an even greater impact. First 00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:38.979 of all, sharing my story, which I shared in my 00:03:38.979 --> 00:03:41.439 new book, my newest book that is coming out, 00:03:41.479 --> 00:03:47.310 Gumption. But also, how can I help others? who 00:03:47.310 --> 00:03:50.849 have a powerful story that needs to be heard, 00:03:51.009 --> 00:03:54.789 have powerful experiences and the skills that 00:03:54.789 --> 00:03:57.389 needs to get out into the world. And that's what 00:03:57.389 --> 00:04:01.770 I do today. I help those entrepreneurs, those 00:04:01.770 --> 00:04:07.310 individuals who want to be seen. And that's my 00:04:07.310 --> 00:04:10.349 superpower. So I know it was a little bit of 00:04:10.349 --> 00:04:14.169 a longer answer, but this is in a nutshell what 00:04:14.169 --> 00:04:18.959 brought me to where I am today. So you talk about 00:04:18.959 --> 00:04:23.819 the invisible stage as the everyday conversations 00:04:23.819 --> 00:04:27.220 where influence is built and opportunities are 00:04:27.220 --> 00:04:30.000 won. Tell me a little bit about what the invisible 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:34.959 stage is. First of all, you know that performance, 00:04:35.180 --> 00:04:37.639 the entertainment industry, is my wheelhouse. 00:04:37.839 --> 00:04:41.639 And through my teachings and through my talks, 00:04:42.170 --> 00:04:45.649 I take a lot of metaphors from the stage. And 00:04:45.649 --> 00:04:50.649 one time I realized, wow, what makes some people 00:04:50.649 --> 00:04:56.149 successful and others not? And that is the work 00:04:56.149 --> 00:05:01.509 that you do on your invisible stage. You see, 00:05:01.610 --> 00:05:05.259 when you are in the spotlight, Not necessarily 00:05:05.259 --> 00:05:08.899 on stage, but by that I mean you are in front 00:05:08.899 --> 00:05:13.180 of your audience, your clientele, a networking 00:05:13.180 --> 00:05:17.120 group. Every time you're being seen, whatever 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:21.180 comes out here, out of your mouth, how you present 00:05:21.180 --> 00:05:24.139 yourself, how you stand up, how confident you 00:05:24.139 --> 00:05:30.259 are, that was done on your invisible stage. And 00:05:30.259 --> 00:05:35.529 that the habits that you have, daily things you 00:05:35.529 --> 00:05:40.470 do to gain confidence, to learn the skills. To 00:05:40.470 --> 00:05:45.490 give you an example, from my own invisible stage 00:05:45.490 --> 00:05:48.930 to the visible stage, when I was an actress in 00:05:48.930 --> 00:05:53.649 Germany, I wanted to play one specific role. 00:05:53.850 --> 00:05:56.730 And that was the role of Madame Tenardier in 00:05:56.730 --> 00:06:00.009 Les Miserables. I always was the young ingenue, 00:06:00.129 --> 00:06:03.910 but I wanted to play that character role. And 00:06:03.910 --> 00:06:08.610 there was an audition in Vienna, Austria, which 00:06:08.610 --> 00:06:12.430 is like 1500 miles away from where I lived and 00:06:12.430 --> 00:06:16.189 played at that time. So I said, OK, what do I 00:06:16.189 --> 00:06:20.930 need to do? I picked a song that was perfect 00:06:20.930 --> 00:06:25.209 for that character. I had it even transposed 00:06:25.209 --> 00:06:29.800 to one lower key so I can belt it out. I practiced 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:32.560 with my vocal coach and then I had it taped. 00:06:32.620 --> 00:06:36.040 So I practiced every day with a tape and I became 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:40.439 that character. Then I took a night train after 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:43.000 I was done on Sunday night playing in Hamburg, 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:47.100 Germany to be Monday morning in Vienna, Austria 00:06:47.100 --> 00:06:52.569 to do the audition. And I prepared so 100%. I 00:06:52.569 --> 00:06:55.829 even took my tape recorder with me. That's how 00:06:55.829 --> 00:06:58.949 long ago it was, right? We still had tape recorders. 00:06:59.290 --> 00:07:02.790 And I had that transposed sheet, sheet music, 00:07:02.889 --> 00:07:04.829 because you always have a piano player there 00:07:04.829 --> 00:07:07.509 and they play the sheet music. But if it's handwritten, 00:07:07.550 --> 00:07:09.290 it's a little bit harder and it was a hard song. 00:07:09.490 --> 00:07:13.129 So I came in with my sheet music, tape player, 00:07:13.230 --> 00:07:17.550 and I said... This is the song. But just in case, 00:07:17.550 --> 00:07:21.089 I also brought a tape recorder. If you want me 00:07:21.089 --> 00:07:23.629 to use that, I'm happy to. And you know what 00:07:23.629 --> 00:07:26.209 the piano accompanist said? Oh, yeah, please 00:07:26.209 --> 00:07:29.550 use your tape because it was hard to play. Good 00:07:29.550 --> 00:07:34.389 for me because I knew how to work. I practiced 00:07:34.389 --> 00:07:38.810 it over and over again. So I did it. I performed 00:07:38.810 --> 00:07:43.399 and then they said. Can you go upstairs with 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:47.480 our musical director and practice a song? Oh, 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:50.639 I knew it. That was one foot in the door. So 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:53.379 I went up. We tried. And then at one point she 00:07:53.379 --> 00:07:55.139 said, well, I don't think you get it. I said, 00:07:55.160 --> 00:07:58.879 yes, I get it. I get it. Let's go one more time, 00:07:58.899 --> 00:08:01.040 two more times. And then I have it. I was so 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:03.660 confident and I didn't want to let go of that 00:08:03.660 --> 00:08:07.000 opportunity. So she did it again and I got it. 00:08:07.100 --> 00:08:11.139 So I went down, auditioned. And three days later. 00:08:11.850 --> 00:08:14.149 I got the phone call and they offered me the 00:08:14.149 --> 00:08:19.569 role. See, the months, weeks, even sometimes 00:08:19.569 --> 00:08:26.269 months, of working on the invisible stage made 00:08:26.269 --> 00:08:30.889 that five minutes that I was on the stage worth 00:08:30.889 --> 00:08:33.549 it while because I got the part. And that's what 00:08:33.549 --> 00:08:35.610 I'm talking about when I talk about the invisible 00:08:35.610 --> 00:08:39.190 stage. It's almost like behind the scenes, the 00:08:39.190 --> 00:08:41.929 preparation behind it. Now, I just learned a 00:08:41.929 --> 00:08:45.090 very interesting new fact. I know that you can 00:08:45.090 --> 00:08:48.970 act, that you can sing, and you can dance, but 00:08:48.970 --> 00:08:51.470 I just learned today that you can also play instruments. 00:08:52.669 --> 00:08:57.649 Yes. You have a lot of skills that you can pass 00:08:57.649 --> 00:09:00.009 on and teach. I think that's, you don't just... 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:03.299 speak it, you walk the talk. You have all of 00:09:03.299 --> 00:09:06.700 this experience behind you and you're multi -talented 00:09:06.700 --> 00:09:10.460 in so many different ways. So you have the signature 00:09:10.460 --> 00:09:14.559 studio day. Can I go learn some of these skills? 00:09:14.740 --> 00:09:17.799 What is that about? Oh, that's a good question. 00:09:17.980 --> 00:09:20.860 And talking about the different skills that you 00:09:20.860 --> 00:09:24.399 have, I can sing, dance, act. In the entertainment 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:28.519 world, on stage as actress, we are considered 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:33.330 a triple Threat, meaning I not only act, but 00:09:33.330 --> 00:09:37.950 can also sing and dance. So, and as you know, 00:09:37.970 --> 00:09:41.110 I always take those metaphors. And I was thinking, 00:09:41.289 --> 00:09:47.110 hmm, how can I help my clients even more? And 00:09:47.110 --> 00:09:51.149 then it hit me. We have to become a triple threat. 00:09:51.330 --> 00:09:54.029 Now, let me explain what I mean by that. And 00:09:54.029 --> 00:09:58.960 that leads me to my signature studio day. It 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:03.379 has never been easier to become a coach, an author, 00:10:03.620 --> 00:10:07.360 having courses online, having a website and all 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:09.759 this good stuff, right? Guess what? If something 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:13.440 becomes easier, at the same time, it becomes 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:17.039 harder. Let me explain. When something is easy 00:10:17.039 --> 00:10:21.340 to do, more people flock in. But this is where 00:10:21.340 --> 00:10:24.899 you can set yourself apart, where you can elevate 00:10:24.899 --> 00:10:29.480 yourself as the authority. Become a triple threat. 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:33.279 And by that I mean, yes, you have an expertise. 00:10:33.940 --> 00:10:37.440 Well, first of all, you've got to learn how to 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:40.919 share it. Become a speaker. Even if you don't 00:10:40.919 --> 00:10:44.379 want to become a public paid speaker, still become 00:10:44.379 --> 00:10:48.019 a speaker. Because the more you speak in front 00:10:48.019 --> 00:10:51.259 of audiences, the more you get the word of what 00:10:51.259 --> 00:10:56.299 you do. That is one. Number two. What else can 00:10:56.299 --> 00:10:59.720 you do? Well, look what we are doing right now. 00:10:59.879 --> 00:11:03.879 Having a podcast, having a YouTube channel. You 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:07.279 have podcasts also visually, right? You can share 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:11.240 more of your expertise. You can be in front of 00:11:11.240 --> 00:11:15.720 more people. And then third, how about a book? 00:11:16.340 --> 00:11:20.639 Because when you are an author, you set yourself 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:26.220 up already as the authority. And guess what? 00:11:26.299 --> 00:11:29.679 And I'm sure you do something similar. I get 00:11:29.679 --> 00:11:35.419 so many inquiries to be on my podcast. Guess 00:11:35.419 --> 00:11:40.399 what I do? I look them up. Where are they? How 00:11:40.399 --> 00:11:43.519 is their social media? How is their website? 00:11:44.019 --> 00:11:46.919 Is this professional? Do they have professional 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:51.200 video? How do they talk? How do they speak? Do 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:54.490 they have a book? What is the audience that they 00:11:54.490 --> 00:11:57.230 have? All these kind of stuff. And oftentimes 00:11:57.230 --> 00:12:02.289 people forget that. So with that said, I thought, 00:12:02.350 --> 00:12:06.970 how can I help my people even more? With my signature 00:12:06.970 --> 00:12:11.090 studio day, I want to help those individuals 00:12:11.090 --> 00:12:14.990 who have a powerful story, but they may not yet 00:12:14.990 --> 00:12:20.830 have the material necessary to raise as an authority. 00:12:22.059 --> 00:12:26.500 In this one day, we film their signature talk. 00:12:26.620 --> 00:12:30.120 Like it's a mini TEDx style talk, five, six minutes, 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:34.559 right? That's all you need to have for your website. 00:12:34.840 --> 00:12:38.580 It's professionally edited. It's in the state 00:12:38.580 --> 00:12:42.500 -of -the -art studio. But that's not it. The 00:12:42.500 --> 00:12:46.700 weeks prior, I worked with each one individually. 00:12:47.769 --> 00:12:50.590 On Zoom, so you don't have to fly into Tampa 00:12:50.590 --> 00:12:53.190 where the event is taking place. I work with 00:12:53.190 --> 00:12:56.730 everyone individually. Again, that's my superpower. 00:12:56.850 --> 00:13:00.070 I hear what they say and then I can help them 00:13:00.070 --> 00:13:04.269 craft that signature talk that also has that 00:13:04.269 --> 00:13:07.070 story component that is super important. And 00:13:07.070 --> 00:13:12.080 it is built in a way that is effective. Then 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:15.340 when we finally meet at that day, we meet the 00:13:15.340 --> 00:13:18.259 day before in the evening. It's a very small 00:13:18.259 --> 00:13:21.539 group of people. I max out at eight because I 00:13:21.539 --> 00:13:24.360 want to make it a boutique experience. Also, 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:27.440 the people will bond together. They will know 00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:29.940 each other. They can collaborate with each other. 00:13:30.059 --> 00:13:32.639 And of course, I will be there. You can pick 00:13:32.639 --> 00:13:35.360 my brain, right? So we have that preparation. 00:13:35.899 --> 00:13:39.279 And then at studio day, not only will you be 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:43.049 able to... record your talk and it's all prepared 00:13:43.049 --> 00:13:45.490 because we had the time before. There's also 00:13:45.490 --> 00:13:48.970 a professional photographer who takes your pictures, 00:13:49.149 --> 00:13:52.509 your headshot and your lifestyle. So while you 00:13:52.509 --> 00:13:54.730 are on set, while you're doing the recording 00:13:54.730 --> 00:13:59.009 and while we are mingling and all of that will 00:13:59.009 --> 00:14:02.490 be sent to you ready. So no extra charge for 00:14:02.490 --> 00:14:05.350 anything. It's all included in that one day. 00:14:05.690 --> 00:14:08.690 So you have your talk, you have your images and 00:14:10.159 --> 00:14:14.320 we also prepare your speaker one sheet. So you 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:17.279 have everything that you need to send it out 00:14:17.279 --> 00:14:21.059 to speak on stages, either it's paid or non -paid 00:14:21.059 --> 00:14:24.659 stages. And so I'm very passionate about, and 00:14:24.659 --> 00:14:27.700 this is what I've done for three decades. So 00:14:27.700 --> 00:14:30.799 I know I'm the right one to help someone who 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:33.960 is ready and sees that this is what I need right 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:36.720 now. Well, then definitely get in touch with 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:38.639 me. And I'm sure you put the link in the show 00:14:38.639 --> 00:14:41.470 notes as well. I will. And I actually have a 00:14:41.470 --> 00:14:43.789 question based on that. This is a way that I 00:14:43.789 --> 00:14:46.409 understood it and I want it clarified. The invisible 00:14:46.409 --> 00:14:50.429 stages in my mind, what we had talked about earlier, 00:14:50.490 --> 00:14:53.690 is where you help people prepare for what's going 00:14:53.690 --> 00:14:57.629 to happen at studio day. So you can first prepare 00:14:57.629 --> 00:15:00.169 them and you walk them through it. And then studio 00:15:00.169 --> 00:15:02.710 day is the actual day that you meet in person. 00:15:02.809 --> 00:15:06.909 Am I correct? That is correct. Yes. Okay. And 00:15:06.909 --> 00:15:10.340 then two, when you mentioned books. I completely 00:15:10.340 --> 00:15:13.580 agree with you. And not only do you see, do they 00:15:13.580 --> 00:15:15.399 have a book? You want to know, well, what's her 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:18.419 story? What value can they bring if I invite 00:15:18.419 --> 00:15:21.200 them on the podcast or if I invite them on the 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:25.440 stage? And I think that a book, many times, is 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:29.399 the starting point. If someone wants to be a 00:15:29.399 --> 00:15:31.740 coach or if they want to be on that stage. So 00:15:31.740 --> 00:15:34.419 I'm working with a few people right now that 00:15:34.419 --> 00:15:36.960 are doing exactly that. But what's really clear 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:41.019 is the message they want out there. So can they 00:15:41.019 --> 00:15:43.860 come to you and you help them prepare the talk 00:15:43.860 --> 00:15:50.460 as well? Absolutely. That is what I do. And also 00:15:50.460 --> 00:15:53.000 even when somebody is unclear on their message. 00:15:53.930 --> 00:15:58.250 I had you, by the way, as my guest on my podcast, 00:15:58.450 --> 00:16:02.350 Become Empowered, and I invite the listeners 00:16:02.350 --> 00:16:05.190 to check it out because you shared so many beautiful 00:16:05.190 --> 00:16:08.629 information there of how they can get started. 00:16:09.230 --> 00:16:12.509 But you talk about a story. You don't have to 00:16:12.509 --> 00:16:16.450 write a whole book. My first collaboration was 00:16:16.450 --> 00:16:20.690 in somebody else's book, and I shared part of 00:16:20.690 --> 00:16:27.039 my story. wrote or collaborated and I was the 00:16:27.039 --> 00:16:32.559 one who curated the stories and women were that 00:16:32.559 --> 00:16:36.440 was their starting point with one story and that 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:39.980 led to another and to another and one of the 00:16:39.980 --> 00:16:43.879 authors because she was in that book which became 00:16:43.879 --> 00:16:46.980 an Amazon number one international bestseller 00:16:46.980 --> 00:16:51.600 she was able to get so many speaking gigs So 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:55.539 I can just invite the listeners to get in touch 00:16:55.539 --> 00:16:57.539 with you because that's what you do. You help 00:16:57.539 --> 00:17:01.340 them. And then eventually it can go into something 00:17:01.340 --> 00:17:05.460 more substantial. And I just wanted to share 00:17:05.460 --> 00:17:10.460 with you, this is the latest book that I call 00:17:10.460 --> 00:17:14.420 Gumption. And I explain the invisible stage more 00:17:14.420 --> 00:17:18.539 in detail. I talk about the framework. I talk 00:17:18.539 --> 00:17:21.529 about so many different things. That will help 00:17:21.529 --> 00:17:24.210 someone. And by the way, the invisible stage 00:17:24.210 --> 00:17:28.470 stories are in there as well. But that is what 00:17:28.470 --> 00:17:32.349 happens. Now, all of these things together. I 00:17:32.349 --> 00:17:34.750 already know I'm a triple threat in the entertainment 00:17:34.750 --> 00:17:38.950 industry. But I am also a triple threat now in 00:17:38.950 --> 00:17:43.109 the coaching and speaker industry. Because I 00:17:43.109 --> 00:17:46.150 do have books. I have a podcast. And of course, 00:17:46.150 --> 00:17:49.299 my own programs. I think that's all wonderful. 00:17:49.539 --> 00:17:53.380 Now, you also have a group which is Vibrant Voices, 00:17:53.380 --> 00:17:55.940 and I'm a member of your group. I enjoy meeting 00:17:55.940 --> 00:17:59.220 weekly, not just with you because I learn a lot, 00:17:59.279 --> 00:18:03.000 but with a lot of other women that are all coming 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:05.039 together, that human connection. Can you tell 00:18:05.039 --> 00:18:07.339 us a little bit about Vibrant Voices so that 00:18:07.339 --> 00:18:10.559 we can invite anyone tuning in to meet us both? 00:18:11.130 --> 00:18:15.150 Yes. And I'm so glad that you said that. I'm 00:18:15.150 --> 00:18:17.869 so passionate about building communities. And 00:18:17.869 --> 00:18:21.109 one of the things with my Vibrant Voices network 00:18:21.109 --> 00:18:25.289 is everybody who's there has a voice. And we 00:18:25.289 --> 00:18:29.190 want to make them so vibrant, so energetic, and 00:18:29.190 --> 00:18:34.250 also being heard. And networking is when we meet 00:18:34.250 --> 00:18:38.569 on a weekly basis, besides going and coaching. 00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:43.819 guests coming in and doing some, some coaching, 00:18:43.880 --> 00:18:47.799 but we also work together every single week. 00:18:47.880 --> 00:18:52.279 We work on our introduction, how we can improve 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:55.279 our quote unquote elevator pitch, right? When 00:18:55.279 --> 00:18:57.799 you meet somebody for the first time, which is 00:18:57.799 --> 00:19:00.930 by the way, I know. a problem for so many people 00:19:00.930 --> 00:19:03.269 when I ask them, so what do you do? And they 00:19:03.269 --> 00:19:05.769 go from left to right to up and down and have 00:19:05.769 --> 00:19:09.009 still no clue. And then I just checked out. You 00:19:09.009 --> 00:19:12.450 have to be able in one or two sentences to say 00:19:12.450 --> 00:19:15.609 what you do, but most importantly, who you help, 00:19:15.670 --> 00:19:18.170 the problem that you solve. And we work on that 00:19:18.170 --> 00:19:21.529 even before we get started to get into the nitty 00:19:21.529 --> 00:19:23.690 gritty. And then there are relationships are 00:19:23.690 --> 00:19:26.309 being built. And I just wanted to share this 00:19:26.309 --> 00:19:29.730 with you. I had a conversation earlier with someone 00:19:29.730 --> 00:19:34.210 and she mentioned she started her new business. 00:19:34.670 --> 00:19:39.609 And she said, but I'm only surrounded by the 00:19:39.609 --> 00:19:44.630 people that I know from my job, not many entrepreneurs, 00:19:45.049 --> 00:19:50.390 not many other people. And that is crucial. You 00:19:50.390 --> 00:19:56.509 got to surround yourself with people. with like 00:19:56.509 --> 00:20:00.430 -minded people that are looking for the same 00:20:00.430 --> 00:20:03.109 thing and that are supportive of each other. 00:20:03.210 --> 00:20:06.309 And that's another beautiful thing with a vibrant 00:20:06.309 --> 00:20:10.380 voices network. Well, I've enjoyed it and I learn 00:20:10.380 --> 00:20:13.319 a lot. And you also have the opportunity to be 00:20:13.319 --> 00:20:16.259 on the hot seat. You've been able to take the 00:20:16.259 --> 00:20:19.200 time to revise some of our social profiles and 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:21.960 then we give each other feedback. And those kind 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:24.859 of tips are invaluable, especially when you have 00:20:24.859 --> 00:20:27.339 a group of professionals that are all in that 00:20:27.339 --> 00:20:30.940 same place. So before we wrap it up, what would 00:20:30.940 --> 00:20:34.500 you say to that woman that is waiting until she 00:20:34.500 --> 00:20:39.069 feels ready? That woman that perhaps... has shrunk 00:20:39.069 --> 00:20:41.950 or is shrinking in rooms where she does belong, 00:20:42.250 --> 00:20:45.910 what would you say to her? Beautiful question. 00:20:46.769 --> 00:20:51.569 The very first thing I would say, don't wait. 00:20:52.450 --> 00:20:55.950 Start now. You know what they say, the best time 00:20:55.950 --> 00:20:59.170 to plant a tree was 10 years ago, if you want 00:20:59.170 --> 00:21:01.990 to have shade, right? The second best time is 00:21:01.990 --> 00:21:06.250 now. And you said something. There are many... 00:21:06.589 --> 00:21:10.089 People who are waiting to be ready. And that 00:21:10.089 --> 00:21:14.930 is the killer of any progress that you make. 00:21:15.569 --> 00:21:19.569 When I started out, before I became an actress, 00:21:19.750 --> 00:21:24.670 I was a claim adjuster. I hated it. And I had 00:21:24.670 --> 00:21:27.369 a chance meeting with a teacher who asked me 00:21:27.369 --> 00:21:29.970 if I was still active in acting. I said no. But 00:21:29.970 --> 00:21:35.460 one thing he said. was the pivotal moment for 00:21:35.460 --> 00:21:40.220 me to start my career. And that was, what a shame 00:21:40.220 --> 00:21:43.559 Sabine, you're so talented. And that woke me 00:21:43.559 --> 00:21:46.880 up. He's right. But here's the thing, when I 00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:51.339 had no idea, right? As I mentioned to you before, 00:21:51.519 --> 00:21:55.240 but if I would have waited to be ready, if I 00:21:55.240 --> 00:21:57.359 would have waited to, well, let me figure things 00:21:57.359 --> 00:22:02.130 out. If I would have waited to do whatever. I 00:22:02.130 --> 00:22:05.049 would have never been here where I am right now. 00:22:05.430 --> 00:22:09.950 I would have still be stuck in a job that I hated. 00:22:10.529 --> 00:22:15.609 And so my biggest advice is don't wait. Go for 00:22:15.609 --> 00:22:18.789 it. Start somewhere. And that somewhere can be, 00:22:18.869 --> 00:22:23.089 talk to me. I'm always open for people to just, 00:22:23.170 --> 00:22:26.130 if they are lost or just wanted to get some advice. 00:22:26.349 --> 00:22:31.509 And you can do this by. TalkToSabine .com. Just 00:22:31.509 --> 00:22:35.150 go to TalkToSabine .com and schedule an audition. 00:22:35.430 --> 00:22:39.930 No, no audition. Schedule a time with me. As 00:22:39.930 --> 00:22:41.690 long as I don't have to sing on the audition, 00:22:41.930 --> 00:22:45.730 I will go find you. That is not one of my strengths. 00:22:46.309 --> 00:22:49.970 So is this where we can also find links to all 00:22:49.970 --> 00:22:51.589 of the different things that we talked about 00:22:51.589 --> 00:22:55.450 today, like Studio Day and the Vibrant Voices 00:22:55.450 --> 00:22:59.599 Network? Would it be that same dot com? So this 00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:02.380 dot com that I gave you is to schedule a time 00:23:02.380 --> 00:23:05.700 to talk with me. But where you want to go, where 00:23:05.700 --> 00:23:10.019 I have tons of free resources as well, you can 00:23:10.019 --> 00:23:12.819 find the Vibrant Voices and all the information 00:23:12.819 --> 00:23:17.460 about the Studio Day. Just go to sabinekevenberg 00:23:17.460 --> 00:23:22.339 .com forward slash resources. Well, thank you 00:23:22.339 --> 00:23:24.599 so much for joining me today, Sabine. I really 00:23:24.599 --> 00:23:28.410 enjoyed our conversation. Oh, I'm so glad that 00:23:28.410 --> 00:23:31.049 I was able to share this information. Thanks 00:23:31.049 --> 00:23:33.890 for having me. And thank you all for tuning in 00:23:33.890 --> 00:23:37.109 to another episode of Milestone Moments in Business 00:23:37.109 --> 00:23:39.410 and Leadership. Until next time.