WEBVTT 00:00:15.660 --> 00:00:17.920 Hey guys, welcome to Executives Press. So we're 00:00:17.920 --> 00:00:21.300 so glad you're here today. I've got a nice cup 00:00:21.300 --> 00:00:23.839 of something tasty to drink. I encourage you 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:26.620 to sit back for about the next 18 -19 minutes 00:00:26.620 --> 00:00:29.399 because we've got a special guest on today as 00:00:29.399 --> 00:00:32.679 we do every Friday, Sheila Slick. is going to 00:00:32.679 --> 00:00:35.840 join us. She has 25, over 25 years actually, 00:00:35.979 --> 00:00:39.320 as a leadership strategist, a certified partner 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:42.320 of KEEP, and she is president of Five Milestones 00:00:42.320 --> 00:00:45.299 LLC. And she is an expert in helping executives 00:00:45.299 --> 00:00:49.619 streamline their success, but also help them 00:00:49.619 --> 00:00:51.899 pay attention to the important things like, oh, 00:00:51.899 --> 00:00:54.579 what might that be? Oh yeah, mental health. And 00:00:54.579 --> 00:00:57.200 so we're going to talk today about the five milestones 00:00:57.200 --> 00:01:00.299 to leadership mastery, how you can lead with 00:01:00.299 --> 00:01:04.200 confidence. What's the difference in authenticity 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:07.700 versus authority? You know, what's the real truth 00:01:07.700 --> 00:01:10.500 about leadership when it comes to that authenticity 00:01:10.500 --> 00:01:14.599 authority matrix? How can you optimize your systems, 00:01:14.739 --> 00:01:17.379 work sharper, achieve bigger? And Sheila's going 00:01:17.379 --> 00:01:21.359 to leave you with a great affirmation to take 00:01:21.359 --> 00:01:24.840 into the weekend. And Sheila, it is so great 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:28.120 to see you here today. Thanks so much. Tell us 00:01:28.120 --> 00:01:32.500 a bit about yourself. Well, good morning, Dr. 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:34.719 Heath, and thank you so much for inviting me 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:37.000 to your show. I've been listening and I absolutely 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:40.780 love all of the episodes and what you're doing. 00:01:41.200 --> 00:01:44.159 So a little bit about me. I've been a lifelong 00:01:44.159 --> 00:01:47.459 entrepreneur. It's in my blood, fourth generation, 00:01:47.739 --> 00:01:50.760 and married a soulmate that's also an entrepreneur. 00:01:50.780 --> 00:01:54.859 So we were living in Dallas when at the age of 00:01:54.859 --> 00:01:59.359 about in 1995, 30 years ago now. And we just 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:01.799 moved overseas and started our first manufacturing 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:05.840 company. Yeah. Don't have that much courage, 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:08.139 right? In this stage of life, I don't think. 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:12.400 But that led to our first, you know, co -founding 00:02:12.400 --> 00:02:16.759 our first company. And then I joined my mother 00:02:16.759 --> 00:02:19.759 and grandmother in the next decade in retail 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:22.139 jewelry. And that was really rewarding because 00:02:22.139 --> 00:02:25.240 I learned a lot of family values, the culture. 00:02:26.060 --> 00:02:28.460 And I had two of the most incredible mentors 00:02:28.460 --> 00:02:33.580 in my life. But that's when the iPhone, you know, 00:02:33.599 --> 00:02:35.800 this little gadget, well, it was actually the 00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:38.719 iPod Touch came out. And I thought that's the 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:42.360 future. And I had always wanted a master's degree 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:45.259 because when you're in business, sometimes, you 00:02:45.259 --> 00:02:47.500 know, you either need a mentor, you need information. 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:52.360 And I wanted more answers. And so that thirst. 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:55.759 I thought earning a master's will help solve 00:02:55.759 --> 00:02:58.039 all of the questions I have. But I was a mother 00:02:58.039 --> 00:03:01.620 and with three kids. And so living overseas, 00:03:01.680 --> 00:03:03.740 coming back to school just wasn't something I 00:03:03.740 --> 00:03:05.639 could do. So when this gadget got invented, I 00:03:05.639 --> 00:03:07.900 thought if I can learn how to code and I was 00:03:07.900 --> 00:03:11.099 about 36 years old, then I don't need a master's 00:03:11.099 --> 00:03:14.199 because there were online courses. And so Apple 00:03:14.199 --> 00:03:18.319 was streaming. one course out in Stanford. And 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:20.819 I thought, oh, you know, Stanford, Ivy League, 00:03:20.860 --> 00:03:23.020 if they can do it, I don't need that master's. 00:03:23.020 --> 00:03:27.199 And guess what? I did it. So I started uploading 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:32.219 and selling all kinds of educational apps. I 00:03:32.219 --> 00:03:35.879 absolutely love math. And so I do the timetables, 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:39.199 I do books. And before I knew it, I got invited 00:03:39.199 --> 00:03:43.979 to attend a hackathon for NASA. I was like, what? 00:03:44.409 --> 00:03:47.569 by a local university. And I was like, a hackathon? 00:03:47.789 --> 00:03:49.710 Like, I'm not a hacker. I'm doing these cute 00:03:49.710 --> 00:03:53.669 games, educational games. And NASA, like, you 00:03:53.669 --> 00:03:57.169 know, NASA that sends rockets to space, you think 00:03:57.169 --> 00:03:59.389 I'm some kind of genius that can code something 00:03:59.389 --> 00:04:02.449 for NASA? And I left. And they were like, Sheila, 00:04:02.590 --> 00:04:04.949 we don't know anyone else in the country at this 00:04:04.949 --> 00:04:08.110 point that can, you know, do this app. And so 00:04:08.110 --> 00:04:11.900 can you just take the information and... Think 00:04:11.900 --> 00:04:14.479 about it. Now, it's just a hackathon, a volunteer 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:17.339 project. And at dinner that night, I'm telling 00:04:17.339 --> 00:04:19.740 the kids and my husband, you know, they really 00:04:19.740 --> 00:04:23.779 think I'm really smart. I can do this. And the 00:04:23.779 --> 00:04:25.560 kids said, Mother, you've always told us you 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:28.759 can't fail if you don't try. And you're not even 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:34.600 trying. And I ended up in the hackathon, of course, 00:04:34.620 --> 00:04:38.920 with my children. And I reframed it as an opportunity. 00:04:39.949 --> 00:04:44.230 to open up the computer and teach anyone that 00:04:44.230 --> 00:04:47.709 wanted to see how you build these apps. Right. 00:04:47.829 --> 00:04:53.850 And so the app was in the app store and NASA 00:04:53.850 --> 00:04:58.069 picked out of about 7 ,400 participants, their 00:04:58.069 --> 00:05:00.910 top ones to move on to the global nomination. 00:05:01.009 --> 00:05:06.350 Wow. Ours for most inspiring. Now it's the global 00:05:06.350 --> 00:05:09.649 honorable mention. So we. came in second place 00:05:09.649 --> 00:05:12.089 in that category. So now I'm in a third world 00:05:12.089 --> 00:05:17.149 country and this happens and it became like a 00:05:17.149 --> 00:05:21.089 sensation. And before I knew it, I had to form 00:05:21.089 --> 00:05:25.529 another company because I needed to do certain 00:05:25.529 --> 00:05:29.170 programs in STEM. I had companies looking to 00:05:29.170 --> 00:05:33.029 do apps and I didn't have to sell. And so then 00:05:33.029 --> 00:05:37.470 that's when my third company was born. And fast 00:05:37.470 --> 00:05:40.189 forward to now, we did return back to the States 00:05:40.189 --> 00:05:44.069 about five years ago. No, seven years ago in 00:05:44.069 --> 00:05:49.230 2018. And brought over those clients. So I formed 00:05:49.230 --> 00:05:53.290 Five Milestones LLC because that's my next chapter. 00:05:53.810 --> 00:05:57.209 So anything that I do revolves around the number 00:05:57.209 --> 00:06:00.050 five. It's just my magic number. And that's where 00:06:00.050 --> 00:06:03.379 I'm at. Oh, well, I forgot. to tie in the leadership 00:06:03.379 --> 00:06:05.800 because I think we have a little bit of the science 00:06:05.800 --> 00:06:10.819 in common. When I came back, I found the opportunity 00:06:10.819 --> 00:06:14.660 to go back to school. So as a mother, as a business 00:06:14.660 --> 00:06:18.680 owner, I went back and earned a Master of Science 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:23.300 in Leadership. And so that's what I tie in, my 00:06:23.300 --> 00:06:26.819 entrepreneurship, my leadership, and my tech 00:06:26.819 --> 00:06:30.810 skills. Goodness gracious, Sheila, what a story. 00:06:30.910 --> 00:06:34.189 What a story. And to work with your mother and 00:06:34.189 --> 00:06:36.230 grandmother in this, I mean, what a blessing. 00:06:36.430 --> 00:06:38.769 There are not too many people that get that opportunity. 00:06:39.509 --> 00:06:42.069 And then those that do get the opportunity, they 00:06:42.069 --> 00:06:44.290 seem not to be able to pull it off, you know, 00:06:44.310 --> 00:06:46.529 because there's the whole, you know, getting 00:06:46.529 --> 00:06:50.110 along and synergizing. And some people just can't 00:06:50.110 --> 00:06:52.490 get over that hurdle. Just really quick, how 00:06:52.490 --> 00:06:57.730 did you tackle working with family? Without becoming 00:06:57.730 --> 00:07:02.189 enemies to each other. So remember, the first 00:07:02.189 --> 00:07:05.089 company was with my husband. And that was a bit 00:07:05.089 --> 00:07:08.689 more challenging because we couldn't separate 00:07:08.689 --> 00:07:12.430 the work from the home. And so those conversations 00:07:12.430 --> 00:07:15.329 would come into the house, so to speak. And that 00:07:15.329 --> 00:07:18.430 was a little bit difficult. With my mother and 00:07:18.430 --> 00:07:21.810 my grandmother being three generations, the way 00:07:21.810 --> 00:07:24.129 that we handled that, remember, it was a retail 00:07:24.129 --> 00:07:27.660 store, is we opened up four. And so we all managed 00:07:27.660 --> 00:07:31.100 our own stores as we grew the company. And what 00:07:31.100 --> 00:07:34.399 was so beautiful about that was that by having 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:39.800 three different generations, we were catering 00:07:39.800 --> 00:07:42.980 to three different markets and three different 00:07:42.980 --> 00:07:46.019 segments. So you could walk into the store and 00:07:46.019 --> 00:07:51.319 pretty much have something for everyone. Wow, 00:07:51.540 --> 00:07:54.360 that is completely amazing. And again, my hat's 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:56.019 off to you ladies for being able to pull that 00:07:56.019 --> 00:07:59.139 off. And I wanted to point out something. I put 00:07:59.139 --> 00:08:01.839 out a post yesterday, and I won't quote it. You 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:03.560 guys can look it up. But I want you to realize 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:05.899 that while a lot of people were out there making 00:08:05.899 --> 00:08:09.120 excuses, Sheila was out there making it happen. 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:12.600 And so while you're thinking it can't be done 00:08:12.600 --> 00:08:15.620 and telling yourself, guys, all the reasons it 00:08:15.620 --> 00:08:19.540 can't be done, other people like Sheila are getting 00:08:19.540 --> 00:08:23.579 out there, and making it happen. How amazing 00:08:23.579 --> 00:08:26.100 that is. Well, I wanted to launch into these 00:08:26.100 --> 00:08:29.040 five milestones to leadership mastery. Share 00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:31.500 with us a few of those milestones, if not all 00:08:31.500 --> 00:08:36.299 of them. So before I share where this is going, 00:08:36.519 --> 00:08:40.220 I am focusing right now on what I'm calling self 00:08:40.220 --> 00:08:42.799 -leadership, right? Because we talk a lot about 00:08:42.799 --> 00:08:45.299 leadership and we're talking about leading others. 00:08:45.539 --> 00:08:48.620 And I have led organizations as a volunteer. 00:08:48.909 --> 00:08:53.269 year, a chapter chair at SCORE. I have led employees, 00:08:53.570 --> 00:08:57.029 companies. I've led teams, for example, in Hackathon. 00:08:57.169 --> 00:09:00.250 And there's such a big difference, right, in 00:09:00.250 --> 00:09:04.309 the approaches. But what they have in common 00:09:04.309 --> 00:09:08.409 is that you first have to learn how to lead yourself 00:09:08.409 --> 00:09:14.980 in order to be able to lead others. When we have 00:09:14.980 --> 00:09:17.779 these life transitions, it's really important 00:09:17.779 --> 00:09:22.139 to practice that self -leadership because you're 00:09:22.139 --> 00:09:25.440 able to influence your own thinking, your own 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:30.080 feelings, and your own actions. And if I break 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:33.700 it down into five steps, it all starts with self 00:09:33.700 --> 00:09:37.100 -discovery, self -awareness, taking that time 00:09:37.100 --> 00:09:40.620 out of your every day. And setting aside, it 00:09:40.620 --> 00:09:43.399 could be once a month or it could be once a week 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:46.840 or at least once a year and really doing a deep 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:51.740 dive into your own self -discovery. Where am 00:09:51.740 --> 00:09:57.100 I at now? Then comes the second step, your vision. 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:03.039 Where do I want to be? And number three is plan 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:08.340 it, right? Everything needs a strategy. You're 00:10:08.340 --> 00:10:12.019 not going to take that first step, which is your 00:10:12.019 --> 00:10:13.899 fourth one. You have to implement. You have to 00:10:13.899 --> 00:10:17.360 take action if you don't know where you're going. 00:10:17.580 --> 00:10:21.480 And the fifth one is when we get feedback and 00:10:21.480 --> 00:10:24.419 we reflect on what's working and what's not. 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:29.159 And because I love entrepreneurship, I always 00:10:29.159 --> 00:10:33.840 love putting my business into my personal life. 00:10:33.899 --> 00:10:36.779 So I think that's what really makes me unique. 00:10:38.369 --> 00:10:40.090 Now, when you say putting your business in your 00:10:40.090 --> 00:10:41.870 personal life, for example, what's that look 00:10:41.870 --> 00:10:47.070 like? So a business plan, if you wanted to start 00:10:47.070 --> 00:10:49.149 a business, right, or whether you want to do 00:10:49.149 --> 00:10:51.809 a startup, the first thing you need is a business 00:10:51.809 --> 00:10:55.049 plan. And so in life, the first thing you need 00:10:55.049 --> 00:10:58.470 is a life plan, your next steps plan. And you 00:10:58.470 --> 00:11:02.629 really need to learn how to practice adaptability 00:11:02.629 --> 00:11:06.100 because everything is changing. Even as we're 00:11:06.100 --> 00:11:08.860 having this conversation today, look at how technology 00:11:08.860 --> 00:11:13.059 is evolving. And so you really need not only 00:11:13.059 --> 00:11:16.059 to build, you know, resilience, but you really 00:11:16.059 --> 00:11:19.220 need to learn how to adapt. Otherwise, you become 00:11:19.220 --> 00:11:23.480 unrelevant in life and in business. A life plan. 00:11:23.539 --> 00:11:27.360 Imagine that. How many years ago did you develop 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:30.100 your life plan? Because number one, most people 00:11:30.100 --> 00:11:31.960 don't know what that is. So we should talk about 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:35.429 what that is. And then most people, they get 00:11:35.429 --> 00:11:37.889 sidelined by thinking they're not doing it right. 00:11:38.330 --> 00:11:41.230 They think that it's too late to do it for them. 00:11:41.590 --> 00:11:44.909 My take on that is it's never too late to have 00:11:44.909 --> 00:11:47.409 a plan. One of my favorite quotes is, failing 00:11:47.409 --> 00:11:50.909 to plan is planning to fail. And so two questions 00:11:50.909 --> 00:11:53.850 there. How long ago did you really, really see 00:11:53.850 --> 00:11:56.509 the importance of developing a life plan? And 00:11:56.509 --> 00:12:01.149 what would that consist of? So and I just did 00:12:01.149 --> 00:12:03.649 a podcast episode because I do host milestone 00:12:03.649 --> 00:12:07.750 moments in business and leadership. And I'm calling 00:12:07.750 --> 00:12:10.570 it my next steps plan right now because I normally 00:12:10.570 --> 00:12:13.870 do it on my birthday. Every year on my birthday, 00:12:13.950 --> 00:12:16.909 I get that itch, that sense of renewal. Am I 00:12:16.909 --> 00:12:20.149 doing what I was setting out to be? Now, this 00:12:20.149 --> 00:12:23.710 was part of a capstone project as well that I 00:12:23.710 --> 00:12:27.570 did when I was earning my master's degree. And 00:12:27.570 --> 00:12:32.169 so. Right now, I am entering my next phase in 00:12:32.169 --> 00:12:35.409 life. As that mother, I have self -identified 00:12:35.409 --> 00:12:38.029 as mother first, whether I was a manufacturer 00:12:38.029 --> 00:12:43.070 or retailer, a developer. It was always about 00:12:43.070 --> 00:12:47.269 incorporating, you know, my kids and being a 00:12:47.269 --> 00:12:50.990 mother first. And my youngest right now just 00:12:50.990 --> 00:12:55.639 got accepted to college. My middle child. is 00:12:55.639 --> 00:12:58.460 earning her PhD in science. She went straight 00:12:58.460 --> 00:13:03.559 out of aerospace physiology in a biology. I don't 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:05.980 understand science like she does. And my eldest 00:13:05.980 --> 00:13:09.860 is working with my husband in the manufacturing 00:13:09.860 --> 00:13:14.799 company here. So I'm implementing it. This is 00:13:14.799 --> 00:13:20.039 called build in public. I am still working on 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:23.740 that. And so I am differentiating my tech services. 00:13:24.460 --> 00:13:27.659 from my own personal brand. And that is where 00:13:27.659 --> 00:13:30.759 the Five Milestones Framework is getting put 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:35.519 in place. That is fantastic. Amazing. What would 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:39.360 you say to people that think that, look, I am 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:43.820 in my 50s or 60s or I'm in retirement. What would 00:13:43.820 --> 00:13:45.980 you say to them when they think it's too late 00:13:45.980 --> 00:13:50.179 to build this life plan, this business plan for 00:13:50.179 --> 00:13:54.320 life that you're talking about? Well, in today's 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:57.139 episode that aired on my podcast, I even shared 00:13:57.139 --> 00:13:59.799 some statistics that the Kauffman Foundation 00:13:59.799 --> 00:14:05.559 showed that women over 55 are, after their careers, 00:14:05.740 --> 00:14:10.120 they... tend to go into entrepreneurship. I also 00:14:10.120 --> 00:14:12.779 shared on Twitter and I replied to one of the 00:14:12.779 --> 00:14:15.820 younger entrepreneurs that we find in this platform 00:14:15.820 --> 00:14:18.399 saying that if you haven't done it by 30, like 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:20.940 it's too late. And I was just like, oh my God, 00:14:21.100 --> 00:14:25.019 I know exactly where I'm getting the data. And 00:14:25.019 --> 00:14:29.340 I mean, like I ought to retweet it, but I provided 00:14:29.340 --> 00:14:34.080 data from SBA and a few different sources because 00:14:34.080 --> 00:14:39.370 if you do look into the data. At 50, you've got 00:14:39.370 --> 00:14:43.669 experience. You have that wisdom, whatever career 00:14:43.669 --> 00:14:46.769 you've built. You have more connections, probably 00:14:46.769 --> 00:14:50.029 double than you did at 30. And you're most probably 00:14:50.029 --> 00:14:54.549 in a much better financial position than you 00:14:54.549 --> 00:14:59.409 were in your 30s. So I hope that answers your 00:14:59.409 --> 00:15:02.429 question. It does. It does. I think there's so 00:15:02.429 --> 00:15:06.009 many examples of continuing incremental improvement 00:15:06.009 --> 00:15:08.500 throughout your life. One of the stories that 00:15:08.500 --> 00:15:11.379 really inspires me is actually from the Old Testament 00:15:11.379 --> 00:15:13.840 story about Moses, where Moses really didn't 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:16.360 do a whole lot. You know, he was just kind of 00:15:16.360 --> 00:15:19.460 entitled until he was age 40. And then when he 00:15:19.460 --> 00:15:22.539 was age 40, he had a bit of an awakening and 00:15:22.539 --> 00:15:26.940 spent the next 40 years just kind of wandering. 00:15:27.059 --> 00:15:31.320 And he really didn't turn into a leader until 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:34.179 he was in his 80s. You know, and I imagine that 00:15:34.179 --> 00:15:35.700 didn't turn into a leader until he was in his 00:15:35.700 --> 00:15:39.539 80s. And so the only thing that makes it too 00:15:39.539 --> 00:15:43.600 late, I think, is you're thinking that it's too 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:47.879 late. Otherwise, it is not too late. Of those 00:15:47.879 --> 00:15:50.919 five leadership milestones, what are one or two 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:54.830 of those that you find? are most difficult for 00:15:54.830 --> 00:15:57.629 people, that really trip people up the most. 00:15:57.730 --> 00:15:59.649 And for the audience listening, thank you guys 00:15:59.649 --> 00:16:02.970 for being here. We've got nearly about 200 people, 00:16:03.049 --> 00:16:05.830 and thank you so much for being here. Take a 00:16:05.830 --> 00:16:07.889 look at Sheila's podcast. Take a look at Sheila's 00:16:07.889 --> 00:16:10.529 account on X. We're streaming right now to Facebook, 00:16:10.830 --> 00:16:14.149 LinkedIn, YouTube, my Mindset Masterclass. You 00:16:14.149 --> 00:16:16.210 guys come over, join the Masterclass, school 00:16:16.210 --> 00:16:19.149 .com forward slash mindset. School is spelled 00:16:19.149 --> 00:16:22.330 S -K -O -O -L, school .com forward slash mindset. 00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:26.179 and drop your thoughts in the chat. Richard, 00:16:26.259 --> 00:16:28.139 my friend, thank you for the mic check warning 00:16:28.139 --> 00:16:31.399 there. I know my mic might have been not very 00:16:31.399 --> 00:16:33.480 optimized, but thank you for guys like Richard, 00:16:33.580 --> 00:16:35.320 friends like Richard, that'll let me know about 00:16:35.320 --> 00:16:37.620 that. But if you have questions for Sheila, drop 00:16:37.620 --> 00:16:40.639 those in the chat. I'll bring those on the screen. 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:43.000 I know she would love to answer your questions. 00:16:43.360 --> 00:16:45.299 Thank you for all the thumbs up and everything. 00:16:45.580 --> 00:16:47.440 But back to the question, Sheila, what are a 00:16:47.440 --> 00:16:50.620 couple of those milestones? that you think that 00:16:50.620 --> 00:16:56.840 people have the most problems with? Well, the 00:16:56.840 --> 00:16:59.379 very first one, that self -discovery, taking 00:16:59.379 --> 00:17:03.340 that time to actually have a structured process 00:17:03.340 --> 00:17:09.200 to be able to reflect because, you know, you 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:11.019 can do it in five minutes, you can do it in 15 00:17:11.019 --> 00:17:14.599 minutes, but to really do a dig, you know. digging 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:17.759 deep in a deep dive if you're looking to make 00:17:17.759 --> 00:17:20.859 a major change if you're looking you know for 00:17:20.859 --> 00:17:23.339 that new career rather than just jumping into 00:17:23.339 --> 00:17:26.680 the next one you really want to make sure that 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:30.680 you're looking for your strengths that you take 00:17:30.680 --> 00:17:33.240 a few assessments that perhaps will show things 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:36.279 from different perspectives to reevaluate those 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:40.059 core values because they change everything changes 00:17:40.059 --> 00:17:44.289 and so if you're not in tune with yourself At 00:17:44.289 --> 00:17:47.990 the moment, then you don't know what you can 00:17:47.990 --> 00:17:53.349 change. And it's so easy to live day to day and 00:17:53.349 --> 00:17:55.930 practice that self -care. Now imagine taking 00:17:55.930 --> 00:17:58.210 that time to sit down and do that deep dive. 00:17:58.609 --> 00:18:02.150 And the second one would then be, well, how do 00:18:02.150 --> 00:18:06.509 I get there? Yesterday in the episode, I absolutely 00:18:06.509 --> 00:18:09.349 love what she said. And it was, you need community, 00:18:09.390 --> 00:18:14.410 you need support. Because sometimes. By having 00:18:14.410 --> 00:18:17.230 someone that you can bounce back your ideas to, 00:18:17.349 --> 00:18:22.190 you're actually, you know, voicing out what you're 00:18:22.190 --> 00:18:24.329 thinking, what you're wanting, what you're needing. 00:18:24.809 --> 00:18:28.150 With my own sister, I think we had a conversation, 00:18:28.309 --> 00:18:30.430 maybe about 90 minutes, and I said absolutely 00:18:30.430 --> 00:18:33.210 nothing. It had nothing to do with business. 00:18:33.690 --> 00:18:36.230 And we finished, she's like, oh my gosh, talking 00:18:36.230 --> 00:18:40.089 to you was better than talking to my counselor. 00:18:40.130 --> 00:18:42.369 And I just thought, but I haven't even talked. 00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:49.039 All I did was listen and she vented. So a lot 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:52.619 of times people don't have just a place or a 00:18:52.619 --> 00:18:55.599 person that they can, you know, vent that out. 00:18:55.720 --> 00:18:59.259 And if you are trying to transition into something 00:18:59.259 --> 00:19:03.160 new, what a better way to have a mentor that 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:07.000 can save you a lot of that guesswork. Yesterday, 00:19:07.140 --> 00:19:09.200 I learned how to go from podcasts to having your 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:12.059 own channel, pretty much. Yeah, good for you. 00:19:12.380 --> 00:19:16.720 Congratulations. Congratulations. Torsen, thank 00:19:16.720 --> 00:19:18.740 you so much. We have some great questions here. 00:19:19.440 --> 00:19:22.140 Torsen's asking, what were some of the hardest 00:19:22.140 --> 00:19:27.059 challenges you personally faced? And so if you 00:19:27.059 --> 00:19:29.259 don't mind sharing that, he asked for five, but 00:19:29.259 --> 00:19:31.079 maybe just one or two. What are some of the hardest 00:19:31.079 --> 00:19:35.950 challenges that you faced? Well, I can give perhaps 00:19:35.950 --> 00:19:39.509 three examples. Number one, when I decided that 00:19:39.509 --> 00:19:41.829 we wanted to move overseas because there was 00:19:41.829 --> 00:19:45.670 opportunity, we made a business plan and it all 00:19:45.670 --> 00:19:48.509 looked great on paper. And we were going to be 00:19:48.509 --> 00:19:50.789 doing really well after three months. It was 00:19:50.789 --> 00:19:54.750 three years later before we broke even. So lesson 00:19:54.750 --> 00:19:59.289 number one is learn. that not everything goes 00:19:59.289 --> 00:20:01.650 as planned, but if you stick to it and you keep 00:20:01.650 --> 00:20:04.049 tweaking that, you can make it happen. That company's 00:20:04.049 --> 00:20:07.390 30 years old right now. Number two is get out 00:20:07.390 --> 00:20:09.690 of your comfort zone. When I talked about entering 00:20:09.690 --> 00:20:12.069 this university where they're talking words I 00:20:12.069 --> 00:20:15.890 had never heard like hackathon and NASA space 00:20:15.890 --> 00:20:19.609 apps. And I had no idea. If you would have said 00:20:19.609 --> 00:20:23.609 that I would have learned how to not only code 00:20:23.609 --> 00:20:27.039 at 36 as a mom. through the internet at that 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:29.220 time and then have a software development company, 00:20:29.339 --> 00:20:34.940 I'd be like, huh? So never be afraid to, you 00:20:34.940 --> 00:20:37.779 know, try. Like I had told my kids, you can't 00:20:37.779 --> 00:20:40.960 fail if you don't try. And in this stage in life, 00:20:41.099 --> 00:20:45.859 that the best is yet to come. And not only is 00:20:45.859 --> 00:20:49.059 it never too late, what you need to do is just 00:20:49.059 --> 00:20:52.880 make sure that. You're taking that time to build, 00:20:52.980 --> 00:20:55.759 you know, that life plan because it's always 00:20:55.759 --> 00:20:59.920 okay, you know, to pivot. And AI is going to 00:20:59.920 --> 00:21:02.900 do a lot of pivoting for a lot of people. So 00:21:02.900 --> 00:21:07.079 there are many opportunities when one door closes, 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:09.500 another one opens. So don't be afraid to pivot. 00:21:10.220 --> 00:21:13.039 Absolutely. Torsen says, wow, coding at 36, amazing. 00:21:13.599 --> 00:21:18.369 Yeah, the, you know, mom coders unite. Torsen 00:21:18.369 --> 00:21:20.390 also says in the chat there with the kids, salute 00:21:20.390 --> 00:21:22.589 to the mothers of the world. Yeah, moms, moms 00:21:22.589 --> 00:21:25.289 make the world go round, you know. So as I always 00:21:25.289 --> 00:21:29.829 say, be unstoppable. And we have another comment 00:21:29.829 --> 00:21:33.630 from Jeremy. And I really love this one about 00:21:33.630 --> 00:21:36.150 the blindness of perspective. You know, perspective 00:21:36.150 --> 00:21:39.210 bias is difficult to identify. And that's the 00:21:39.210 --> 00:21:41.890 beauty of having a community, guys, is have a 00:21:41.890 --> 00:21:44.410 circle of people. that you give them permission 00:21:44.410 --> 00:21:46.869 to just be honest with you. And when they're 00:21:46.869 --> 00:21:49.089 honest with you, don't make them pay for it, 00:21:49.130 --> 00:21:51.829 right? You should pay them for that. But often 00:21:51.829 --> 00:21:54.269 when people are honest with us, we make them 00:21:54.269 --> 00:21:58.089 pay for it by shunning them or criticizing them. 00:21:59.089 --> 00:22:01.849 Listen, if you don't want to critique, don't 00:22:01.849 --> 00:22:04.109 ask for people's opinion. That's just acting 00:22:04.109 --> 00:22:07.809 in bad faith. I have people that pay me to tell 00:22:07.809 --> 00:22:11.150 them hard things. And if I'm not telling them 00:22:11.150 --> 00:22:13.980 hard things, If I'm just giving them a mental 00:22:13.980 --> 00:22:18.099 massage, I am stealing their money. I am not 00:22:18.099 --> 00:22:21.579 earning my money. They pay me to tell them things 00:22:21.579 --> 00:22:25.839 that no one else, including their family, will 00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:29.359 tell them. And so have a group of people and 00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:32.839 don't punish them for sharing their perspective. 00:22:33.180 --> 00:22:36.319 Think of it this way. It's almost as if you ask 00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:38.660 them, what does this food taste like in their 00:22:38.660 --> 00:22:41.970 mouth? It's just how it tastes in their brain. 00:22:42.130 --> 00:22:45.349 People's perspective, people's opinion, what's 00:22:45.349 --> 00:22:48.190 shared is them saying, hey, I don't know, but 00:22:48.190 --> 00:22:51.549 this is how this thing tastes in my brain. And 00:22:51.549 --> 00:22:56.250 it's just information. And it's often useful 00:22:56.250 --> 00:22:59.730 information. Not all of it, but are you better 00:22:59.730 --> 00:23:02.670 off knowing about the termites and the walls 00:23:02.670 --> 00:23:06.069 of your home? Or is ignorance really bliss? You 00:23:06.069 --> 00:23:09.789 know, that river in Egypt, denial. And I think 00:23:09.789 --> 00:23:12.210 that you're better off having this information. 00:23:12.430 --> 00:23:15.009 Well, guys, we are running out of time here. 00:23:15.170 --> 00:23:18.349 So thank you so much for joining. We've got about 00:23:18.349 --> 00:23:21.589 250 people in the show today. Thank you, guys. 00:23:21.910 --> 00:23:24.230 Take a look at Sheila's account. She does all 00:23:24.230 --> 00:23:26.609 kinds of wonderful things. This is one of my 00:23:26.609 --> 00:23:28.930 favorite interviews ever. She's so full of knowledge. 00:23:29.069 --> 00:23:31.609 But Sheila, let's kind of get personal with the 00:23:31.609 --> 00:23:33.450 audience just in this quick shot thing, just 00:23:33.450 --> 00:23:36.589 a two to three second answer. Looking back on 00:23:36.589 --> 00:23:41.000 your career. at your younger self, what's something 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:45.579 that you had most wrong about business and success? 00:23:47.980 --> 00:23:52.759 That it happens overnight. Absolutely. And yeah, 00:23:52.900 --> 00:23:57.140 yeah. Success is built slow, not quickly. If 00:23:57.140 --> 00:23:59.160 you think someone built success quickly, you're 00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:02.000 missing all their backstory. Number two, what's 00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:04.420 one of your current biggest mindset struggles? 00:24:04.700 --> 00:24:08.329 Because we all have them. So right now is defining 00:24:08.329 --> 00:24:13.089 how I'm going to build my community because I'm 00:24:13.089 --> 00:24:16.029 starting with a workshop. I'm going to do a post 00:24:16.029 --> 00:24:18.789 that perhaps you can retweet. And it's a workshop 00:24:18.789 --> 00:24:21.009 in April, and I'm calling it Spring Renewal, 00:24:21.009 --> 00:24:26.710 Your Next Chapter. I love it already. It's free. 00:24:26.809 --> 00:24:29.950 I have nothing to sell. I just want to meet other 00:24:29.950 --> 00:24:32.750 people that perhaps by taking one hour out of 00:24:32.750 --> 00:24:35.940 their time and we unite. I'll see what their 00:24:35.940 --> 00:24:40.220 needs are, how we can continue being connected. 00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:43.000 So for me, it's almost like research. It's free. 00:24:43.099 --> 00:24:46.039 There's no course to be bought, nothing. I need 00:24:46.039 --> 00:24:50.500 to just build that community. So I'm struggling 00:24:50.500 --> 00:24:53.220 with where do I want to go with this? I know 00:24:53.220 --> 00:24:58.839 what I don't want. That's awesome. And my final 00:24:58.839 --> 00:25:01.819 question here before we get to that affirmation 00:25:01.819 --> 00:25:04.559 to leave your audience with. is what's your current 00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:11.579 top, best, most recommended mindset hack? Hmm. 00:25:12.380 --> 00:25:16.299 Always look for opportunity in problems. Oh, 00:25:16.359 --> 00:25:20.240 I love that so much. Yeah, and you know, I found 00:25:20.240 --> 00:25:24.019 that you can't do that as long as you're catastrophizing 00:25:24.019 --> 00:25:27.200 the problem. Guys, if you take nothing else away 00:25:27.200 --> 00:25:30.359 from this, and Torsen had a great take on this. 00:25:30.420 --> 00:25:34.519 He said... The lesson for the day is to believe 00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:37.900 in yourself. Absolutely. But then also in that, 00:25:37.940 --> 00:25:41.059 believe in your ability to tackle problems that 00:25:41.059 --> 00:25:44.579 come your way. When you look at a problem, you're 00:25:44.579 --> 00:25:45.900 going to have a negativity bias. You're going 00:25:45.900 --> 00:25:47.519 to say to yourself, I can't handle it. I can't 00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:49.720 take it. Look, that's normal. Don't beat yourself 00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:52.339 up over that. But after that initial three to 00:25:52.339 --> 00:25:55.660 five seconds, reset, say to yourself, enough 00:25:55.660 --> 00:25:58.440 of this, and believe that you have what it takes 00:25:58.440 --> 00:26:02.460 to address and to solve the problem. It may not 00:26:02.460 --> 00:26:05.279 be how Sheila would solve it because Sheila's 00:26:05.279 --> 00:26:07.700 not there. It may not be how I would solve it. 00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:11.980 I'm not there either. But solve it the best way 00:26:11.980 --> 00:26:17.019 you can solve it. Movement is always better than 00:26:17.019 --> 00:26:20.220 freezing in place. You know, give yourself a 00:26:20.220 --> 00:26:23.579 moment, think about it, and then believe in your 00:26:23.579 --> 00:26:26.319 ability to solve the problem. Just one real quick 00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:30.319 thing is I will have. a problem to address and 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:33.660 I'll be okay with thinking about it because I 00:26:33.660 --> 00:26:35.619 know while I'm making my bed, making my coffee, 00:26:35.700 --> 00:26:38.539 brush my teeth, whatever, my brain is still working 00:26:38.539 --> 00:26:41.099 on the problem. You know, sometimes it takes 00:26:41.099 --> 00:26:43.279 a bit for your brain to sort through options 00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:46.319 to solve these problems. Well, Sheila, thank 00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:48.180 you so much. Tell folks how they can get in touch 00:26:48.180 --> 00:26:50.220 with you and look at all the great work that 00:26:50.220 --> 00:26:54.960 you do. So my name is Sheila, S -H -E -I -L -A, 00:26:55.119 --> 00:27:00.240 Slick, S -L -I -C -K. You can find me on social 00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.980 media with that handle, SheilaSlick .com as well. 00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:08.579 And I'll make sure that I tag you on my tweet 00:27:08.579 --> 00:27:12.660 or on my post so that I can connect with your 00:27:12.660 --> 00:27:15.259 audience. And thank you. That's got to be one 00:27:15.259 --> 00:27:18.119 of the most marketable names ever. I did a double 00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:20.980 take and I thought, did I get that right? Sheila 00:27:20.980 --> 00:27:24.039 Slick, you know, wow, that's amazing. You guys 00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:27.240 take a look, repost what she's doing there. And 00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:29.579 finally, what kind of affirmation might you leave 00:27:29.579 --> 00:27:31.259 your audience with? Something to kind of take 00:27:31.259 --> 00:27:34.980 them into the weekend, get them pumped up. Think 00:27:34.980 --> 00:27:38.039 about what you want out of life. And it's a great 00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:40.019 time. Spring is coming up, whether you join the 00:27:40.019 --> 00:27:42.839 workshop or not. And think about, am I where 00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:46.940 I want to be today? Awesome. Guys, it's time 00:27:46.940 --> 00:27:49.799 for some spring cleaning. Clear out the cobwebs. 00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:53.160 Get out there. Believe in yourself. As Larry 00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:55.250 the Cable Guy would say, get it done. Sheila, 00:27:55.289 --> 00:27:57.569 thank you so much for being here today. I definitely 00:27:57.569 --> 00:28:00.609 appreciate it. And guys, we will be back next 00:28:00.609 --> 00:28:02.890 Friday with another wonderful guest on Executive 00:28:02.890 --> 00:28:05.789 Espresso. Before that, we'll be back on Monday 00:28:05.789 --> 00:28:08.410 for Monday Mindset Mojo. We got to have Sheila 00:28:08.410 --> 00:28:11.089 on Monday Mindset Mojo. 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Thank you for joining, 00:28:45.940 --> 00:28:48.480 and we'll catch you next time. Have a great weekend. 00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:49.359 Bye -bye now.