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Welcome to Milestone Moments, the show where we explore the journeys that lead to success.

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I'm Sheila Slick, your host and founder of Five Milestones. In every episode, we will bring you

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insights from the minds of entrepreneurs, leaders, and experts who will share not just their expertise

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but the milestone moments that have reshaped their journeys and led to significant achievements.

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So if you're looking for motivation, you're in the right place. Subscribe now and discover the

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milestones that mark the path to success.

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Welcome to another episode of Milestone Moments in Business and Leadership. I'm Sheila Slick,

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your host. And today, my special guest is Dr. Patricia Petralba. Dr. Petralba is founder of

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Thrive Life Center, an integrative medicine wellness center in Tucson, Arizona, and is the

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head coach of Revive and Thrive Program, serving women globally. She is a board certified physician,

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trained in family medicine from the University of Pittsburgh and a graduate of integrative medicine

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fellowship from the University of Arizona. She is passionate about sharing her knowledge that

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transforms lives in a holistic and sustainable way so that highly ambitious women can perform

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without the burnout and feel fulfilled in all areas of their life. Welcome to the show, Dr.

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Petralba. Hi, Sheila. I'm excited to be here. Thank you for joining me today. Can you tell us

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about a specific moment or an experience that led you down this career path? Specific moments,

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I mean, I feel like it's a stack of multiple ones, but the most impactful moment would be maybe when

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I graduated medical school and completely burned out. You know, here I am wanting to find the

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holy grail of how to heal people, hopefully cancer because it runs very high in my family.

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Yeah, I felt like I didn't have the knowledge, the embodiment, how to really help people in a

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more deeper way. Like I could diagnose, give you a diagnosis. I could write orders for labs and

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imaging and give you prescription. But after that, it's like, did we really heal you or did we

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just minimize the symptom? Did we get to the root cause? So that was kind of the moment where I'm

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like, I'm not even feeling alive myself with what I know. So there's got to be a different path.

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Yeah. So why do you think so many people, specifically women, they struggle with burnout,

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their health, and what are some of the symptoms that can help you identify, am I burnt out?

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Yeah, great question. So burnout can be very insidious, you know, especially if you're a

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highly driven woman. It can be as simple as you're irritable, it's hard for you to sleep or maintain

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sleep, and then hard to lose weight. You don't feel turned on as much with your relationships

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or even with life. And then certainly, you know, it can show up in the body where

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the hormones act up, whether that's PMS, infertility, or a very hard menopause.

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And I think, you know, it's multifactorial why women tend to burn out. But one of it is

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we operate in a system where we don't lean on and trust how we're made. What I mean by that is we,

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by biology, how we are designed is to be cyclical, seasonal, compared to male biology,

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which is very linear. Like they can just go, go, go, go, go. Unlike us, we have like from

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menarche, menstrual, pregnancy, menopause, and we shift so much. Even within one cycle of our

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menstrual cycle, we have our menstruation, when we feel our energy drops, we feel a bit of increase

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of energy in our luteal phase, sorry, follicular, and then ovulation peak. We feel like, oh my gosh,

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I'm so beautiful, I can do 10 million things. And then we go down to luteal, which is the drop of

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the hormones, or when we're pregnant, and we need to slow down. What happens is we tend to compare

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or have this pressure on us to perform similar to our male co-workers, co-founders, whatever.

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And women needs that pause. Women needs that up and down cycling. And so basically, I think we just

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operate in a man's biology, time, and energy management, and that just doesn't work out.

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So the moment we can really embrace how we're made, we shine, you know, like without guilt or shame,

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with saying, I'm having a hot flash right now, need to step out, maybe drop everything. Because

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I know when I really listen to my body, I can create even more than most of you guys.

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I'm curious. So you're basing it almost on a gender right now. How about age? Does that have an

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influence? Is burnout based on what you're doing, your activities? Or is it that these hormones,

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I know they change throughout your life and your ages, and you have these stages. So would you say

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you're more prone physically just because you're at a specific point in your life?

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I think it can encompass at all ages. It's still... So burning out is essentially, you are

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giving more output than recovery. Because stress is not a bad thing. But chronic, sustained stress

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without recovery, that's when you burn out. So whatever how your mindset is around,

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the guilt, the shame, or the expectations to not stop could be your driving force on why you're

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burning out. So whether it's you can't even celebrate the harvest after summer season in

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your business, like, wow, I made a lot of cash in this season, instead of celebrating the harvest

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on fall, you still want to keep reproducing that spring and summer. So simple answer is,

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it's, I don't think it's age based. I think it's a lot of it is mindset. And your ability

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to really listen to what your body and mind needs. So that was my next question. How do we

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prevent it and identify it? Right? We need to identify it and prevent.

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Yeah, I mean, I have many frameworks how to be more conscious before it actually happens.

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One of my favorite formula is called the log formula. So first is, we need to know how to

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listen to check in to scan our own energy from mind, body, spirit, so deeply listening to

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the messages that our mind body spirit is actually expressing. So for a woman, it could

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be like, like what I was saying, like the sleep, the hormones, like if you really check in,

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what does that mean? Because the symptoms aren't the problem, they're actually trying to be the

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solution. So that this ease is the communication to you to evaluate your own energy. So,

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that's the L, the log formula. L is listening, always objectivity. So meaning, how can I be

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objective, finding out the root cause of what I'm going through. So even with business, right? Like,

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I can't just rely on intuition and listening. How can I measure it? So for a physical health,

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you want to be able to measure it. So that's the L. And then the L is listening. So,

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you want labs. For business, you want the numbers or the metrics and whatever statistics that you

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need. And it will help you clarify what is. And then V is vulnerability. Like you have to have

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a muscle of vulnerability to really feel what you need to feel. What I mean by that, a lot of people

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want to just skip to the solution. Like, I just want to feel better. I just don't want to be

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depressed. Like you feeling happy without really digesting, why did you get depressed in the first

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place and detoxify those tears and maybe journal it out or maybe dance it out, whatever it is that

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you actually needed to feel whatever you need to feel. The vulnerability will help you get to the

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last, which is E, the inner visionary, like a CEO will always see the best case scenario.

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So you being the CEO of your body, if you had the diagnosis of hypertension, cancer,

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whatever, menopause that's so terrible or whatever is happening in your business,

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if you're able to go through L O V, you can really see the vision in the best case scenario. So

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that's kind of how I would prevent burnout. Like that's like usually my framework.

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So you use frameworks. What else do you use? What are other strategies or solutions that you

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provide your clients? I would say it's case to case. But that's one, like my framework is

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mind, body, spirit. And then the love framework, it could be also conscious and unconscious mind

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because we operate from a 90% subconscious mindset. And so how can we release all those

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subconscious programming? And this is where, you know, how a woman recognizes like, oh my gosh,

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I'm so tired, but I can't say no. I just can't say no to this client, even though you're not

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enjoying it anymore, but you're so wired to being a people pleaser. And so even though you're

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conscious of that already, but your subconscious is still in control, then sometimes we do a

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different type of exercises, how to rewire the brain and really exercise the muscle of boundaries.

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So this is what you mean when you describe a natural and sustainable way of healing.

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One of it. Yes, absolutely. Yeah. That's what I was trying to get to in the question. I don't know

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if I framed it correctly. So it was, what are some of the strategies you use, you know, when you

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describe that you help them with their health and the burnout and healing in a natural and

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sustainable way? Yes. So I mean, as long as you know what the root cause is, and you're willing

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to work through it, you change the fruit, because that's how sustainable is like you, you start from

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the root before it even becomes like you change the whole system. So do you offer specific

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programs? Do you have books or are you one to one? So I do group, I do like self-paced courses for

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the online. Like now I'm running my 14 day self-love challenge, which is like a journaling

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challenge and meditation challenge to activate the highest frequency of healing, which is love.

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So those are 14 days. I also have like a group coaching called Healing Academy, where we go

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through the thriving life framework, the mind, body, spirit medicine. And yes, absolutely. I

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work one-on-one, which is kind of majority of who I serve, like CEOs to high performing women,

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like really wants to deepen their understanding, how can they perform better in all areas of their

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life. Interesting. So what is your next milestone? Great question. I feel like an expansion of a

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second brick and mortar. We're in the process of, I'm going to retire my husband from his practice

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and he'll join me. We're going to be like not just marketed on women, but also for men. He's also

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a holistic provider. So we're excited about that. Like we're on our way to me absorbing him, hiring

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him. Make sure you don't stress him out or you'll have the proper techniques. So where can my

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listeners learn more about the programs that you offer? Because they are global. So I'm imagining

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you do have a lot that are online. Yeah. So people can find me in my website, thrivewithdrpatricia.com

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or in my Facebook group, The Thriving Woman, where I host free online retreats around every

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month, every two months. I don't hold back. Even if it's free, I go deep. So yeah, they can join

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my free community. Can you offer my listeners one specific tip so they can implement, take action

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right away? I think it's immersing ourselves in the five elements. Meaning with nature, because

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we're surrounded with artificial air, artificial light, artificial ground, processed water, meaning

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not in natural containers. Again, because we are made of nature. So we're surrounded by

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because we are made of nature. And even if it's like just after one client, you step out,

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have some sunlight, ground your feet, drink a live water. Sometimes that's enough. Just

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reconnecting what you're made of will really help you feel more alive, productive, and happy.

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So what are the five elements? Can you repeat them? Air, light, water, earth, metals. So that's why

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minerals are also very good to make sure that's part of your diet. Got it. Well, thank you so

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much for joining me today. Thank you. It's so nice to be here. And thank you to all of the listeners

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for joining in on another episode of Milestone Moments in Business and Leadership.