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Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening,

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everybody, and welcome to today's special episode

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of the Never Peak Project Podcast. My name is

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Coach Ranger, I'm your host today, and in today's

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episode, we're gonna be talking to a couple of

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gentlemen that are planning to do what I did

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last year and walk across America. This is part

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of my, I don't know, annual Walk Across America

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rehash where I talk to different people that

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have, either are planning to, currently are or

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already have walked across America. I'm hoping

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to do this every March in honor of my walk just

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to kind of bring awareness to the amazing people

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there are in the world that are looking to do

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incredible things with their life and impact

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those around them. But I'm going to kind of just

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let them tell their own story and give us their

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thoughts and opinions. But today we have Philip

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Grelly and Drew Diaz, The Live -In Project. Guys,

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how's it going? It's going great. I love the

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introduction right there. You got me hyped up

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already. That's the plan, man. How's it going,

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guys? What are you guys up to? So, I mean, we've

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been staying busy. We're 41 days, 41 days until

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we go on our walk. We're just trying to get content

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out every day. You know, some of it's preparation

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for our walk. Some of it, we get a little off

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track and do some funny pranks. But it's been

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fun. We've been busy. Yeah, I mean, it's... It's

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been filming and editing every day. I think right

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now, we've been doing pretty much all content

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every day. Definitely need to get into working

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out more seriously every day. But it's been a

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grind, and I think we've both been loving it.

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Gotcha. I definitely want to talk a bit more

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about your guys' Instagram, which all of their

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contact information, all of their socials are

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going to be linked down in the show notes so

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that everybody can follow them and show some

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love and support to a couple guys doing cool

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things. before we get into what you guys are

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doing now to prep what i'm curious about is how

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did you even get the idea to do a walk across

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america uh and what's your purpose your why your

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mission like where'd you get the idea and why

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are you deciding to do this um well that like

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the spawn of the idea was a couple years ago

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senior year in my english class shout out to

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mr bravo uh he brought up This story of this

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woman, however many years ago, 20, 30 years ago,

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who would walk across America and Canada, maybe

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Mexico too, for like 30 something years. I might

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not be getting that story exactly right, but

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did something crazy like that with just a shirt

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on her back, would rely on the kindness of people.

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And then he brought up a guy who tried it more

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recently, like cut up his credit cards, tried

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to do the same thing and like failed after less

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than two days. For some reason, I was like. huh

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like that sounds kind of awesome like i want

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to do that and for the whole english period i

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just like i don't know what it was i was just

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daydreaming i'm like for some reason this just

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sounds awesome i'm like this you know maybe i

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would do it and i'd film it or all this um and

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then i guess like a year and a half go by and

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i'm still thinking about it like a lot a lot

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still just not leaving my mind um and then eventually

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i brought up the idea to to drew here um and

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yeah so he uh I was in college in San Diego.

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He was in Arizona. He texts me. He says, Drew,

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3 a .m. He says, Drew, I got to tell you something

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crazy, life changing, and you'll never believe

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it. I'm like, OK, hit me. What is it? He's like,

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but I got to tell you in person. So he made me

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wait three months until we met over summer at

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my house. And we're in my backyard. And he told

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me, Drew, I want to walk across America with

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you. I want to do it for charity and I want to

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do it through social media. I think it'll change

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our lives and I think it'll benefit both of us.

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And I said. You know, Philip, you're crazy. I

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would never, ever do anything like that. Me personally.

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And I basically shut him down. And he texted

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me later that night, just a super, super long

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paragraph about why we would do it, why he thinks

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we should do it, and just going on and on. And

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maybe two months go by, and I'm thinking about

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it almost every day. In the middle of July, I

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just think to myself. you know what when i'm

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80 years old am i gonna regret doing something

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like this and failing or it not be worth it or

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am i gonna sit there and think what would have

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happened if i would have just so i was like philip

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let's do it i love that okay so just to clarify

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philip had the idea first and then enrolled drew

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in the idea of it exactly so what how do how

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do you guys know each other like from high school

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college Well, we actually I guess first time

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we met was elementary school, but we probably

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became like best friends. Super close. Sixth

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grade. So been a long time coming. How cool.

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OK, so childhood's best friends turned into cross

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-country adventures together. So there's a lot

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of things that are kind of coming up. I'm a big

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quotes guy. So the first one is you guys know

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Mike Posner is the guy that inspired me for my

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walk. And one of his big reasons behind it was

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he was told, not all crazy ideas are great, but

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all great ideas are crazy. And that's coming

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up a lot in your guys' story for me. And there's

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another book called The Art of Possibility by

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Rosamund and her husband Xander and Xander. And

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one of the stories from there is the importance

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of telling someone important something in person.

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So why did it feel like you needed to tell? him

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in person rather than just over text like what

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what drove that that that's funny actually i

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feel like we might be scrolling on the same reels

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i get those same quotes popping up and i think

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i sent those to him when we were talking about

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this um but to do it in person honestly that

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3 a .m text looking back was kind of just a dick

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move of me being like i want to tell you so bad

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so i'm going to text you but i can't tell you

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in person um i don't know it just felt like Like

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the event, the event that I'm kind of pitching

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or this crazy sort of thing is like, like, that's

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just not something I want to do. Not face to

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face, like in my head. And now in both of our

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heads, I feel like this is a life changing, insane,

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crazy thing. Like, it's not like, hey, bro, do

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you want to, you know, come and have a sleepover

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or something? It's like this is potentially changing

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the path of our life. So I was like, there's

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no doubt this has to be told in person. Gotcha.

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Okay. And then when it comes to wanting to do

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this big, crazy thing, like you heard of somebody

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else that done it, you heard of somebody else

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that had tried it and failed. What else are you

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adding on top of just that desire to do it to

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make sure that you get from one side to the other?

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Like, do you have like a specific mission or

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is it just the adventure of it? So I know for

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me personally, at first, I just wanted to push

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my mind. I wanted to see what my limitations

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were. with my body and my mind. But a few weeks

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ago, my grandfather passed away. And like I said,

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in his funeral speech posted on Instagram, I

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said he was the coolest man ever. And he had

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the coolest stories ever. And in turn, I want

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those same stories. So over this next year, I

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want to create as many cool, memorable, adventurous

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stories that I can. And I'm going to do this

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for him. Gotcha. And how about you? I mean, I

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feel like I can't say there's one reason. Um,

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I'd say like one reason that's in my head is

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maybe just kind of like simple, but it's just

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like my dream. Like I've just, I can't stop thinking

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about how much I want to do this. But also I

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think just like the different motivations of

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like, I've never been to the East coast. Like

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I've never seen 99 % of this country. Like what

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goes on in Maryland? Like, I don't know. Like

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I'll find out. I think that's awesome. But then

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I think like the deeper motivations of. of kind

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of just like like even now we haven't started

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the walk and filming these videos and trying

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to promote ourselves and hopefully promote this

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charity and and doing this i've never felt such

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a sense of like meaning of what i'm doing like

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i've never been a big fan of school or or any

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of that stuff and to like kind of wake up every

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day and be like i feel like i'm creating something

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special i feel like i'm i'm maybe bringing joy

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to people with some videos i may be doing good

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with raising money like doing that and then i

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think doing it on the biggest level i feel like

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it's just been like lighting a fire under me

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yeah no i i definitely are i what i've noticed

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with a lot of the walkers and runners that have

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done this like a lot of our stories have a lot

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of parallels So my grandfather passed away from

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Alzheimer's in 2020. And just hearing what was

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going on, like behind the scenes, they moved

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from California, Oklahoma a couple decades ago.

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But hearing, you know, from my Nana and my uncles

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that he was kind of slowly forgetting himself

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and who they were. It made me realize kind of

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just like what you were saying a moment ago.

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You know, when I'm. i don't know 85 90 on my

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deathbed i i'm not going to regret this should

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i be able to remember i did this in the first

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place right and something i tell a lot of people

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that resonates uh a lot with what philip was

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just saying is having multiple reasons as to

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why you're doing it i kind of call it the web

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of wise Like throughout the journey, throughout

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the walk, you'll find more and more reasons.

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I guess this is me pushing my own story on you

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guys. Like you'll find more and more reasons

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to keep going every single day. I didn't even

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get my little tagline. There are good people

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out there until I was a quarter of the way through

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my walk. So it's amazing how your initial reasons

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get you to that starting line and how you'll

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find more and more throughout the rest of that

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journey. And speaking of that journey, what that

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day -to -day looks like, what exactly is your

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guys' route? And how did you decide which direction

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you were going to go and what states you're going

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to travel through? I mean, initially, it was

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just kind of like very basic research, like how

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to walk across America, like literally stuff

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like that when it first started. And then it

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evolved into getting deeper and deeper into websites.

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And we've had a few Zoom calls with some people

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who have done long walks and some walks across

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America. Shout out to all of them. They're super

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helpful. But I'd say the one website that in

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person was, I believe it's called Gin and Faith.

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She walked across America. I think she also biked

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and rode a horse. something like that. But she

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posted her route and then eventually she was

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kind enough to respond to an email I sent her

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about some questions about the route. And she

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was a great resource with kind of us deciding.

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I mean, we knew we wanted to do east to west

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because weather wise just made more sense. Also,

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we live in California and like it'd be kind of

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awesome to end pretty close to where we live.

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We thought that would also be super cool. But

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yeah, I mean, it was mostly just talking with

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people, researching and kind of finding the route

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that was like, you know, that just made the most

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sense and ended where we wanted to end. And,

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you know, we didn't want to do like respect all

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the hardcore people that do like Maine to Los

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Angeles, but we just wanted to go from coast

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to coast. I did the very same thing. I remember

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asking chat GPT before I started, like, how do

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you walk across America? And it's like saying

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like, you know, oh, that's very dangerous. Be

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sure that you prepare ahead of time. And it's

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like a lot of the like the wiki how like the

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very basic stuff doesn't really help. And what

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I did was I reached out to a few guys like Andrew

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Kivett, Mark Dudek, like how you reached out

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to Jen and Faith. And it's so amazing how quickly

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people are willing to hop on Zoom calls or do

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phone calls with you to help you figure these

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things out ahead of time. Like, you know, it's

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not even something you're doing yet. But they're

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willing to take that time to help you out and

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just really get you from one side to the other.

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And when it comes to the day to day of your walk,

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what is your plan for like sleeping for? Do you

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have any like rules that you've set for yourself

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on how you're going to get from one side to the

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other? Or is it kind of just figure it out as

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it goes? Yeah. So, I mean, we talked to a good

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amount of people and they said you can plan as

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much as you want. But you're kind of just going

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to have to figure it out as it goes. We're going

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to mostly do camping in any land that we can.

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And then, you know, the occasional hostel or

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motel. And yeah, we're going to plan on doing

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around 20 miles a day, you know, give or take.

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Like you said, kind of figure it out as we go.

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Gotcha. And then are you guys going to have like

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a cart or a backpack? Like what is your plan

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for carrying supplies? Yeah, so we're going to

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be pushing a cart. Gotcha. What kind of cart?

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We have some names written down, but we haven't

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gotten it yet. No. Do you have any recommendations?

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You pushed a cart, correct? Yeah, I pushed a

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cart. I got my first cart. I named her Old Reliable.

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I got her off of Amazon for $120 and did not

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last past South Carolina, really. A little bit

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into Georgia, she exploded. So I ended up with

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a Burley. I went to REI. Uh, my big, uh, I don't

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know. I'm not a affiliate with REI, but I will

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live, breathe and die by REI. Uh, I got like

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the membership. So I got like the discounts and

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special offers or whatever, but I just went to

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a, what was it? An REI in Athens, Georgia. And

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I picked up my burly there. I had a few issues

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with the tires, which I can talk a little bit

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about with you guys, um, off air or later on

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when we have like the switch, the interview.

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But the Burley was really, really solid. No major

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issues, but that is what I use. I know Mark Dudek

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used a Burley, and I've heard of a couple others.

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I think even when I was just looking at Gin and

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Faith, it might be a Burley if I zoom in. No,

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it's a Booyah. I don't know what that is. But

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that's what I would recommend for sure is something

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that you can easily get parts for. nice yeah

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okay so east to west yeah that was the advice

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that i got also the the joke was that the east

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is more forgiving and that there are more resources

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it's you're closer to civilization um no that's

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awesome and then when it comes to oh geez well

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what are you guys i guess let's see if this question

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lands what are you guys giving up in order to

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do this walk? Uh, I mean a lot. Uh, I mean, we're

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both taking a gap year off school. Um, I mean,

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for my personal things, like, I mean, I was having

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a great time at school doing well. I was a film,

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uh, film major. Um, I got a job there like that

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semester that was like probably my ideal film

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job at school, managing like social media for

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the school. Um, But I quit the job, took a gap

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year, left all my friends. Like if this if this

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project were to kind of, I guess I don't want

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to say fail, but like if we were to not like

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no money comes from this at all, I'd go broke.

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Like I'm giving up just about everything. Missing

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all my family's birthdays, my own birthday, Fourth

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of July, everything like. Just about everything

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putting on the table for this. Yeah, I'd say

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I'm in a similar boat, kind of putting all my

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savings into this, taking a year off school,

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obviously going to miss my friends. Shout out

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to you guys. Miss my family. I'm super close

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to my family. I'm going to definitely miss my

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family and quit a job. Yeah, I miss my family

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too. I'm going to miss them. Yeah, come on. And

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then – I will. But, yeah, we're willing to sacrifice

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all of that for this walk. I love that. No, I

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mean, again, same thing over here. I proposed

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to my fiance in January and then started walking

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in March. So it was kind of like, I could wait

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till I get back. I could do it now. Why wait?

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And I think that that was a big thing for me

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for 2024 was why wait? Why have these rules for

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yourself? No, I think that's really the big thing

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is that it's like being clear of. what you're

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giving up but being very clear on what you hope

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to gain and it sounds like you guys have a very

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clear idea of what a successful walk would look

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like uh what is your guys's do you guys have

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any like side missions for the walk like specific

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things you want to see things you want to do

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uh like for me i wanted to win a belt buckle

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didn't happen but i kind of just kept saying

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it hoping that it would happen but is there anything

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like that for you guys um have you thought about

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that I mean, kind of. I think a lot of the side

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missions, I feel like I don't know if there's

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much we can say. We definitely have ideas on

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the walk. Our plan with the walk is how we've

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been posting on Instagram every day, hopefully

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posting very often in short form, and hopefully

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one time a week on YouTube is the goal right

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now. So we've been sort of planning ideas of

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like fun things or silly things or challenges

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or whatever to kind of add on to the walk each

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week just to kind of change things up. But for

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like side missions, I feel like it'll be maybe

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things that come like like I don't like maybe

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we're walking through an area and they're like,

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hey, there's this sweet place to go cliff jumping

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an hour away and someone offers a ride. OK, maybe

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we'll take take some time off from walking and

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just, you know, go have a good time. So. I don't

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know, at least for me, I feel like the side missions

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are kind of things that are just going to spawn

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in and be like, yo, there's a national park over

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here. Let's go check it out or stuff like that.

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Yeah, absolutely. Gotcha. No, I definitely wish

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I did a little bit more of like the sightseeing

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side missions. I had a few different things for

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mine that I was doing. So not like regrets there,

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but I definitely think that there are amazingly

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some really beautiful spots in the country to

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be seen and experienced. But awesome. And then

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I know that you guys are supporting a charity

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during your walk. Can you guys talk a little

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bit about who you're supporting and your reasoning

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behind working with them specifically? Yeah.

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So from the beginning, Philip came at me. He

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was like, I want to do this for charity. I want

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to I want to have meaning behind this walk. And

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I was like, that's a great idea. And we were

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thinking about what's important to us. And the

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first thing that came to us was just feeding

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the hungry, feeding people in need. People, you

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know. that that need the help and after more

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research we found this charity convoy of hope

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and the first thing we saw is they help feed

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the hungry food allocation all that as we kept

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going down they do a bunch of other stuff disaster

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relief they um they're right now they're helping

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in la with all the fires they help um farm workers

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rights woman empowerment it's all sorts of um

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outsourcing for for like humanitarian aid also

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what's really cool with convoy hope was I should

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have this figure memorized, but something like

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90 something percent of the money that's donated

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actually goes to help these causes, which is

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one thing my parents were like, look at this

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number because it's important of like, you know,

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some might it might be like 60 percent of the

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money you actually give goes to help people and

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40 percent goes to pay their employees and stuff.

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So something like 90, 92 percent, 92 sounds right.

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The money actually goes to help these causes.

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It was a lot of causes we feel very passionate

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about and we love what they do as well as that.

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It seemed like, you know, the money was really

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going towards a really great place. Wow. Yeah.

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No, I just found I'm looking at their website

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a little bit right now. Yeah. Ninety two percent

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goes to the program. Overhead is about eight

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percent. So, no, that's that's amazing. That's

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a fantastic figure to look at. Do you guys have

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like a specific donate link that you're looking

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to? Have people funnel donations through or donate

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directly to Convoy of Hope? Well, we actually

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added the link to our bio literally last night.

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Oh, perfect. So at the Living Project on Instagram

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or on any of our links, you can tap it and it'll

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be there. Or, I mean, always feel free. Just

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type in Convoy of Hope. The website will pop

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up right away. Either one is amazing. Perfect.

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No, and my little challenge, I had my original

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goal was $100 ,000 for my charities I was raising

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money for. I ended up getting about $9 ,000.

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So I definitely think that you guys can, your

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goal right here is $5 ,000. You guys are going

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to kill it. You're going to do numbers. I mean,

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just looking at you guys' socials, you already

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have over 5 ,000 followers. You're getting good

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reach and good. interaction. So I think you guys

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will do pretty solid. I don't know. I'm super

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excited for your guys' walk, but no, you guys,

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you guys are doing such great work and I'm really

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excited to see where this walk takes you and

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what you're really able to create from it for

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yourselves and those that you impact. But is

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there anything else? Well, actually I have one

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more question for you. Yeah. I'm kind of stealing

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this from another podcast, the Tough Mudder podcast.

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But at the end of each episode, the host asks

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this. And you guys are walking along one day.

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You're in the middle of, I don't know, Alabama.

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And you come across a lamp. You pick up the lamp.

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You rub it. And a genie pops out. And the genie

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says, thank you for releasing me from this lamp.

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But instead of granting you a wish, I'm going

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to grant you the greatest wish of all. You have

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the world's attention for 30 seconds. what is

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it that you would want the entire world to know?

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Probably one of our fart spray pranks. No, that's

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a good, that's no, sorry. That's a really good

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question. Man, come on. 30 seconds are ticking.

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Oh man. If everyone could just hear that. There's

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meaning to life in that at the center of everything

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is love. And if you can have love for your friends

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and your family and your enemies, nothing else

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matters. Beautiful. Philip, Drew, you guys are

00:23:05.670 --> 00:23:08.410
going to do such great things. I'm really excited

00:23:08.410 --> 00:23:12.220
to see what a... A duo like you guys are going

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to do on your walk and the impact you're going

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to create and just the people you're going to

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inspire. Thank you so much for your guys' time.

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If people want to follow along on your journey,

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what would be the best way for them to do so?

00:23:25.160 --> 00:23:29.359
We are The Livin' Project on Instagram. Livin'

00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:31.880
without the G, like Matthew McConaughey. I love

00:23:31.880 --> 00:23:36.599
you, I am. The Livin' Project on Instagram. Well,

00:23:36.779 --> 00:23:39.339
it'll be that same name on TikTok if TikTok's

00:23:39.339 --> 00:23:42.779
still alive. Uh, and then YouTube is living or

00:23:42.779 --> 00:23:46.240
the living project. Uh, you'll find it. Um, yeah,

00:23:46.339 --> 00:23:48.039
but Ranger, thank you so much for having us.

00:23:48.099 --> 00:23:51.140
This is our first podcast. So yeah, that was

00:23:51.140 --> 00:23:54.319
awesome. Of course. No guys, I'm excited to,

00:23:54.440 --> 00:23:56.099
I don't know, just give you guys that spotlight

00:23:56.099 --> 00:23:57.519
for a little bit. Hopefully it helps you guys

00:23:57.519 --> 00:23:59.980
out. Um, if you need anything else from me, just

00:23:59.980 --> 00:24:03.380
let me know. Awesome. Yeah. Appreciate you so

00:24:03.380 --> 00:24:07.400
much. Yeah. All right. Now we're going to go

00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:11.200
ahead and move into where. The guests asked the

00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:14.380
host questions. So Philip and Drew, do you guys

00:24:14.380 --> 00:24:16.579
have any questions for me about the walk? Things

00:24:16.579 --> 00:24:19.140
that you guys want to know about or anything

00:24:19.140 --> 00:24:23.220
in particular? So I had one question. First thing

00:24:23.220 --> 00:24:24.680
that comes to my mind when we talk to people

00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:27.519
that I've walked across is how many times have

00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:30.759
you wanted to quit during your walk? Why did

00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:33.059
you want to quit and what made you keep going?

00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:37.980
Yeah, I think for me. A lot of it is kind of

00:24:37.980 --> 00:24:40.200
just giving yourself like that zero options mentality,

00:24:40.579 --> 00:24:44.680
right? Like I am going to do this or I am going

00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:49.640
to die doing this. And for me, kind of like we

00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:51.640
mentioned when we were talking a few minutes

00:24:51.640 --> 00:24:54.759
ago was having that web of whys, like having

00:24:54.759 --> 00:24:57.000
so many different reasons why that you can call

00:24:57.000 --> 00:25:00.220
upon at any given moment. I mean, I thought about

00:25:00.220 --> 00:25:04.839
quitting mostly up until around Georgia, I would

00:25:04.839 --> 00:25:08.420
say. Um, so South Carolina, Georgia, I had more

00:25:08.420 --> 00:25:10.519
thoughts of quitting than I did the rest of the

00:25:10.519 --> 00:25:14.160
time. And really what it was, was just being

00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:17.200
very clear on the reason I was doing it. I mean,

00:25:17.220 --> 00:25:19.420
like with you guys, like for me, it was too,

00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:22.420
well, I heard about Mike Posner walking in 2019,

00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:25.460
2018. So it was something that I had wanted to

00:25:25.460 --> 00:25:28.539
do for almost half a decade at that point. And

00:25:28.539 --> 00:25:30.779
I got coaching on it. I figured out what my mission

00:25:30.779 --> 00:25:34.000
statement was and just really had. that like

00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:37.460
stack of reasoning why I wanted to do it. So

00:25:37.460 --> 00:25:40.079
anytime I had a thought of quitting or Googling

00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:42.880
how close an airport was or pulling up on my

00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:44.660
phone, how much it would cost to take an Uber

00:25:44.660 --> 00:25:47.440
to the nearest town to get on a plane to go home,

00:25:47.539 --> 00:25:50.599
it was kind of just being able to take a second

00:25:50.599 --> 00:25:55.140
and remember all of those reasons why. Does that

00:25:55.140 --> 00:25:57.099
kind of answer your question or did I just ramble?

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No, absolutely. The web of why. really stuck

00:26:00.670 --> 00:26:02.170
with me when you first brought that up. And I

00:26:02.170 --> 00:26:04.690
think I have my personal web wise, I bet Philip

00:26:04.690 --> 00:26:07.009
does too, and we'll keep growing and continue

00:26:07.009 --> 00:26:10.730
to expand that web. Yeah. No, I think that that

00:26:10.730 --> 00:26:14.009
is super, I don't know, very, very impactful

00:26:14.009 --> 00:26:16.890
for me. And once I got to Georgia, I listened

00:26:16.890 --> 00:26:20.309
to David Goggins' audio book, Can't Hurt Me.

00:26:20.369 --> 00:26:23.390
Have you guys ever read it or heard it? I've

00:26:23.390 --> 00:26:25.009
had family that read it and totally recommended

00:26:25.009 --> 00:26:27.230
it and will definitely be. I think that's going

00:26:27.230 --> 00:26:28.910
to be in the audio book on the, on the wall.

00:26:29.130 --> 00:26:31.990
Yeah. So one, one of my, I don't know, saving

00:26:31.990 --> 00:26:33.990
graces on the walk was I had YouTube premium

00:26:33.990 --> 00:26:38.029
and I could listen to whatever I wanted. And

00:26:38.029 --> 00:26:44.329
somebody uploaded that book to, yeah, it's like

00:26:44.329 --> 00:26:46.849
six and a half hours long, but it's like the,

00:26:46.869 --> 00:26:49.450
the audio book version of it. And it's, it's

00:26:49.450 --> 00:26:51.630
insane. So that was like another thing. Once

00:26:51.630 --> 00:26:54.259
I heard that, I was like, I have. nothing that

00:26:54.259 --> 00:26:58.400
i go through on this walk is going to be as bad

00:26:58.400 --> 00:27:01.180
as the things that this guy went through just

00:27:01.180 --> 00:27:05.859
being a kid right so there's there's nothing

00:27:05.859 --> 00:27:07.640
that that's going to happen to me that bad so

00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:10.900
i have really no no real excuse and i listened

00:27:10.900 --> 00:27:13.400
to that book in georgia and again once i got

00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:15.559
to joshua tree which was the hottest part of

00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:18.720
the walk and that really helped i don't know

00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:24.359
keep me on it during that time Awesome. Yeah.

00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:30.099
What else you guys got? This one's not as deep.

00:27:30.180 --> 00:27:31.880
It just came up to us like in the past couple

00:27:31.880 --> 00:27:34.960
of days. Just like, what did you do when it was

00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:38.140
raining? I imagine like we'll still be walking

00:27:38.140 --> 00:27:41.940
when it's raining, but this is just, this just

00:27:41.940 --> 00:27:44.839
popped in my brain of like what shoes, like we're

00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:47.539
having like running shoes, but like when it was

00:27:47.539 --> 00:27:49.259
pouring rain, do you just let your shoes get

00:27:49.259 --> 00:27:51.180
wet or were there like certain moments you'd

00:27:51.180 --> 00:27:55.140
call it? go inside or how did you kind of navigate

00:27:55.140 --> 00:27:58.839
like weather like that yeah so one of my big

00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:03.079
rules was don't be dumb and it wasn't necessarily

00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:05.839
the water i was always afraid of it was lack

00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:09.039
of visibility for cars it was lightning and thunder

00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:13.240
uh and just water what is it in jumanji like

00:28:13.240 --> 00:28:15.420
a little water never killed no one but a lot

00:28:15.420 --> 00:28:18.480
can right so that was something that i was very

00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:20.339
cognizant of and there were times that i walked

00:28:20.339 --> 00:28:25.799
through uh rainstorms i think it was in arkansas

00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:28.599
i got caught in a rainstorm for about an hour

00:28:28.599 --> 00:28:30.420
or so before my host family could pick me up

00:28:30.420 --> 00:28:34.279
and i mean i was drenched what i ended up doing

00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:38.299
during the rainy times was covering my cart with

00:28:38.299 --> 00:28:40.920
a tarp to keep everything inside protected i

00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:45.380
had a duck's back For my backpack to keep that

00:28:45.380 --> 00:28:47.900
dry, because I had, you know, my laptop, podcasting

00:28:47.900 --> 00:28:51.299
equipment, battery packs, and other things in

00:28:51.299 --> 00:28:53.039
there and in the cart that I didn't want to get

00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:56.900
soaked. So it's like, sometimes you have to,

00:28:57.039 --> 00:29:01.380
but if you can avoid it, I 100 % would. Because

00:29:01.380 --> 00:29:04.279
even if you have, like, I use Ultra Lone Peaks

00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:07.140
when I walked. I had a different pair when I

00:29:07.140 --> 00:29:09.819
first started. But I switched to those, and I

00:29:09.819 --> 00:29:12.740
ended up getting the water -resistant pair eventually.

00:29:13.369 --> 00:29:15.730
which helped a lot in the mornings because you

00:29:15.730 --> 00:29:17.890
walk through grass and it's kind of dewy and

00:29:17.890 --> 00:29:19.910
your feet get wet and it's just uncomfortable.

00:29:20.529 --> 00:29:23.170
But once it starts raining and pouring and you're

00:29:23.170 --> 00:29:25.930
getting soaked all the way down, it doesn't really

00:29:25.930 --> 00:29:30.250
help. And walking four, five, six, I don't know,

00:29:30.250 --> 00:29:34.309
20 miles with wet shoes does not feel good and

00:29:34.309 --> 00:29:37.450
can lead to infection or, you know, like fungus.

00:29:37.569 --> 00:29:39.410
Or was it like athlete's foot? I think that's

00:29:39.410 --> 00:29:43.019
how you could get that. So when it comes to your

00:29:43.019 --> 00:29:46.599
feet, guys, I would recommend don't screw around.

00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:49.299
If you have to take another rest day, take a

00:29:49.299 --> 00:29:51.579
rest day. If you have to avoid the weather, avoid

00:29:51.579 --> 00:29:56.779
the weather. That would be kind of my take. But

00:29:56.779 --> 00:30:03.119
also being very clear on, do we have the opportunity

00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:06.039
to take a rest day or do we really have to push

00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:10.000
through it? Like, don't be a, I don't know, don't

00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:12.930
be a bitch. But don't be dumb. Like there's a

00:30:12.930 --> 00:30:16.369
very fine line and you literally walk that every

00:30:16.369 --> 00:30:18.430
single day. Does that kind of answer that question?

00:30:19.049 --> 00:30:21.730
Yeah, for sure. I like that. Don't be dumb. I

00:30:21.730 --> 00:30:25.990
think that's a good rule. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I

00:30:25.990 --> 00:30:29.049
don't know. Like you'll really develop like an

00:30:29.049 --> 00:30:33.589
instinctual like sixth sense of when things feel

00:30:33.589 --> 00:30:36.650
off. Like somebody offers you a ride and you're

00:30:36.650 --> 00:30:38.970
like, I don't really know. Or they offer you.

00:30:39.630 --> 00:30:41.650
like a place to stay and you're like get a weird

00:30:41.650 --> 00:30:44.789
vibe or they offer you food or water like you

00:30:44.789 --> 00:30:46.690
know like you'll you'll kind of catch on to that

00:30:46.690 --> 00:30:51.009
especially with animals and just driver behavior

00:30:51.009 --> 00:30:54.549
so i don't trust trust your gut don't be get

00:30:54.549 --> 00:30:59.750
dumb it kind of means the same thing yeah yeah

00:30:59.750 --> 00:31:02.049
anything else in particular and there's nothing

00:31:02.049 --> 00:31:06.390
too big or small the details matter a lot yeah

00:31:06.390 --> 00:31:09.980
i had a question so Just more specifics. How

00:31:09.980 --> 00:31:12.440
many miles in total did you do? How many miles

00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:14.660
on average and how long did the journey take

00:31:14.660 --> 00:31:20.480
you? So let me pull up my spreadsheet. My one

00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:23.000
of my best friends, Brett, he is a engineer.

00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:26.619
So he was like, you need to have an Excel sheet.

00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:28.460
I'll make you one. And it's like it has graphs

00:31:28.460 --> 00:31:32.460
and data and steps per day. He he went all out.

00:31:32.500 --> 00:31:39.299
I was like, thanks, buddy. I appreciate it. So

00:31:39.299 --> 00:31:54.460
let me see. So total miles was 2 ,643 for my

00:31:54.460 --> 00:31:57.460
walk. It took me five and a half months. So I

00:31:57.460 --> 00:32:01.759
started March 10th and I ended August 31st. And

00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:04.819
then my average per day, I had that somewhere

00:32:04.819 --> 00:32:08.000
written down. Let me see if I can find it. Ranger

00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:11.400
messing around. My average on walking days was

00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:17.119
25 .89 miles. My shortest day walking was five

00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:19.859
miles. And that was from one hotel to another,

00:32:19.940 --> 00:32:23.920
basically. And my two longest days was going

00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:28.799
into Fort Smith, Arkansas. That was 39 days or

00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:32.500
39 miles. And then my longest day was over 40

00:32:32.500 --> 00:32:37.630
miles. My first day in Joshua Tree. So that was

00:32:37.630 --> 00:32:42.190
the shortest and longest and the averages in

00:32:42.190 --> 00:32:47.210
between. What states did you go through? I went

00:32:47.210 --> 00:32:49.369
through the southern states. So I walked through

00:32:49.369 --> 00:32:53.950
South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi,

00:32:54.490 --> 00:32:59.230
Arkansas, Oklahoma, the Texas Panhandle, New

00:32:59.230 --> 00:33:04.759
Mexico, Arizona, and California. And I did that

00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:07.759
route because I wanted to, it sounds weird, I

00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:10.099
wanted to hit New Mexico, Arizona, and California

00:33:10.099 --> 00:33:12.740
during the summer because that's where I knew

00:33:12.740 --> 00:33:17.400
I had the most support. I'm also from California,

00:33:17.619 --> 00:33:19.660
so as I got closer to Cali, I knew I'd have more

00:33:19.660 --> 00:33:24.279
connections there. And I was worried more about

00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:27.960
the rain and snow than I was about the heat.

00:33:29.900 --> 00:33:32.839
I mean, the joke is kind of like, well, if you're

00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:34.440
cold, you can put on more clothes. But if you're

00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:36.940
hot, you only have so many clothes to take off.

00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:40.299
But I just felt more comfortable dealing with

00:33:40.299 --> 00:33:44.099
the heat than extreme cold. Yeah, absolutely.

00:33:46.299 --> 00:33:48.519
And then, so we talked a little bit about the

00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:50.819
mental aspect. But physically, how did your body

00:33:50.819 --> 00:33:52.940
feel? What was the hardest part? Your feet, your

00:33:52.940 --> 00:33:55.440
legs? Just a little bit about how your body felt

00:33:55.440 --> 00:34:00.339
during those five and a half months. Mark Dudek,

00:34:00.420 --> 00:34:03.319
Andrew Kivett and I, we had a group chat called

00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:06.440
cross or coast to coast. And they were kind of

00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:09.199
my support during the time because I could ask

00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:10.719
them questions I couldn't really ask anybody

00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:13.940
else. And same thing with Kenny Mintz. He's another

00:34:13.940 --> 00:34:15.880
guy that walked that helped me out a bunch. But

00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:18.539
I was it was more of like a he was like the sage

00:34:18.539 --> 00:34:20.599
guy that I would call every once in a while.

00:34:20.699 --> 00:34:24.800
He's older and he's a veteran. But they all told

00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:27.679
me that the first couple of weeks to the first

00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:30.050
month or two. Is going to be the worst for your

00:34:30.050 --> 00:34:34.150
feet. You have to get your walkers feet. Until.

00:34:34.829 --> 00:34:36.449
And then the rest of the time is going to be

00:34:36.449 --> 00:34:39.349
fine. But that first month or two. I mean I got

00:34:39.349 --> 00:34:41.429
blisters in places. I didn't know was possible.

00:34:43.369 --> 00:34:48.269
The chafing. Gets pretty bad. So I'll recommend

00:34:48.269 --> 00:34:51.869
you guys some stuff. To like avoid. Your body.

00:34:51.949 --> 00:34:54.610
Your lower half of your body exploding basically.

00:34:55.609 --> 00:34:59.710
but that was something that you don't, you can't

00:34:59.710 --> 00:35:02.730
really prepare for, right? Like Kenny, he did,

00:35:02.789 --> 00:35:04.869
he said he walked a thousand miles before he

00:35:04.869 --> 00:35:08.289
took his first step. Mark Andrew and I, we didn't

00:35:08.289 --> 00:35:10.849
do that much prep, but the biggest things that

00:35:10.849 --> 00:35:12.789
I did ahead of time that helped me out was I

00:35:12.789 --> 00:35:14.849
got into running and it looks like you guys are

00:35:14.849 --> 00:35:18.789
pretty fit and run a good amount. I got into

00:35:18.789 --> 00:35:21.349
running, not the furthest I'd ever gone in a

00:35:21.349 --> 00:35:23.869
day was a half marathon. And that was utmost.

00:35:24.969 --> 00:35:28.429
a year before I did the walk. Uh, but the biggest

00:35:28.429 --> 00:35:30.750
thing that helped out was full body weight training.

00:35:30.889 --> 00:35:33.349
And I hired a personal trainer for that. And

00:35:33.349 --> 00:35:35.829
he, I mean, he lived in Canada. He's like an

00:35:35.829 --> 00:35:38.530
online personal trainer, but that was super helpful

00:35:38.530 --> 00:35:42.630
to lift heavier and consistently without breaking

00:35:42.630 --> 00:35:47.190
my body. Uh, doing squats and deadlifts is terrifying.

00:35:47.269 --> 00:35:48.789
If you don't know what you're doing, because

00:35:48.789 --> 00:35:50.789
you don't want to pull something, but really

00:35:50.789 --> 00:35:53.610
just being able to carry a pack that's, you know,

00:35:53.869 --> 00:35:56.969
weighs 20 to 40 pounds and pushing a cart uphill

00:35:56.969 --> 00:35:59.510
and downhill and being able to control that,

00:35:59.550 --> 00:36:03.110
that was the most valuable. So be prepared for,

00:36:03.110 --> 00:36:06.809
I don't know, blisters everywhere, the chafing,

00:36:06.829 --> 00:36:09.409
but also ahead of time, just really build up

00:36:09.409 --> 00:36:13.170
that full body muscular system is what I would

00:36:13.170 --> 00:36:21.280
say there. Did you have anything else? Well,

00:36:21.340 --> 00:36:23.559
I was about to ask about preparation, but I think

00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:26.619
you gave some good tips there. But I was curious.

00:36:26.699 --> 00:36:28.400
I haven't asked anyone about this. Like, what

00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:30.579
was life kind of like when you finished a walk?

00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:33.400
What was life kind of like? It was like weird

00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:35.659
to kind of adjust back to normal life. Like,

00:36:35.699 --> 00:36:37.500
what was that whole kind of experience like?

00:36:40.380 --> 00:36:43.340
That is a really good question. It was weird,

00:36:43.380 --> 00:36:48.619
man. I mean, you go from. like your normal life

00:36:48.619 --> 00:36:53.739
to like this big, exciting thing. And you, I

00:36:53.739 --> 00:36:55.059
don't know, you get a lot of attention. I mean,

00:36:55.099 --> 00:36:57.360
I was on the news in every single state that

00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:01.280
I went through, except Texas. So I was on the

00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:03.679
news. I was on podcasts. I was in newspapers.

00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:06.280
Like I was getting all this attention and I,

00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:10.440
I had what a thousand, almost 2000 followers

00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:13.920
on Facebook by the time I ended and 500 on Instagram.

00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:17.000
And I mean, I, again, I'm like, I, I, I compare

00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:18.980
myself to you guys already. I'm like, Holy crap.

00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:20.260
Like they're doing something right. Like they're

00:37:20.260 --> 00:37:22.639
getting this attention, but like you're, you're

00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:25.320
getting this attention and people are telling

00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:27.739
you these nice things all the time. And then

00:37:27.739 --> 00:37:30.900
you finish, you get on the plane, you get back

00:37:30.900 --> 00:37:34.880
home and like, everything is the same, right?

00:37:35.500 --> 00:37:40.460
Like nothing's really different. Something that

00:37:40.460 --> 00:37:44.730
I kind of, there's two, there's two things. I

00:37:44.730 --> 00:37:47.489
found a kitten in Oklahoma. His name was Walker.

00:37:47.650 --> 00:37:49.750
I found him my very first day on the side of

00:37:49.750 --> 00:37:52.769
the road. Pink eye. He was like, I don't know.

00:37:52.769 --> 00:37:54.250
I don't want to say on the verge of death, but

00:37:54.250 --> 00:37:57.710
didn't look great. My fiance flew out about a

00:37:57.710 --> 00:37:59.809
week after I found him, picked him up and brought

00:37:59.809 --> 00:38:02.449
him back to, back to California. I mean, he's,

00:38:02.449 --> 00:38:04.369
he's running around our house right now. Like

00:38:04.369 --> 00:38:08.590
he's like almost a full grown cat. And something

00:38:08.590 --> 00:38:11.429
that I thought of was, you know, like I'm, I'm

00:38:11.429 --> 00:38:13.800
halfway through with this journey. I have about

00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:17.300
three months left. By the time I get back, that's

00:38:17.300 --> 00:38:20.099
not even really going to be my cat. I found him.

00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:22.099
I cared for him the first week. I fed him with

00:38:22.099 --> 00:38:25.780
a syringe to make sure he got the milk and everything.

00:38:26.519 --> 00:38:29.239
And when I get back, it's not going to be him.

00:38:30.860 --> 00:38:34.699
But comparing that to myself, it's like, okay,

00:38:34.739 --> 00:38:37.820
but am I even the same person that I was on March

00:38:37.820 --> 00:38:40.539
9th, the day before I took my first step to August?

00:38:41.849 --> 00:38:44.489
Or September 1st when I'm back? Like, what is

00:38:44.489 --> 00:38:48.989
that transition like? And then another guy that

00:38:48.989 --> 00:38:53.590
I met in Arkansas, Austin Coates, he runs a sober

00:38:53.590 --> 00:38:56.250
living house. One of the things that he told

00:38:56.250 --> 00:38:59.750
me was with his journey of sobriety and going

00:38:59.750 --> 00:39:03.230
from an addict to homeless to rehab to opening

00:39:03.230 --> 00:39:05.570
up a sober living house was one of the things

00:39:05.570 --> 00:39:09.010
that he realized was, like, no matter where you

00:39:09.010 --> 00:39:12.949
are, there you are. If you're doing something

00:39:12.949 --> 00:39:16.409
big to run away from something, it's always going

00:39:16.409 --> 00:39:18.429
to follow you because that something is you.

00:39:18.949 --> 00:39:21.650
So it's really about understanding what's going

00:39:21.650 --> 00:39:26.550
on internally and understanding that your surroundings

00:39:26.550 --> 00:39:29.550
do impact you, but really what it is is what's

00:39:29.550 --> 00:39:34.969
going on inside. So all of that to say is I...

00:39:35.980 --> 00:39:39.440
left the walk hoping to be changed and like not,

00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:43.559
not a whole lot was different except for me.

00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:47.179
And I think that's still something that I'm kind

00:39:47.179 --> 00:39:48.800
of wrestling with and trying to understand, you

00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:50.599
know, I'm writing my book, I'm writing out all

00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:53.860
my notes, trying to really understand that. I

00:39:53.860 --> 00:39:56.579
know a couple other walkers have expressed that

00:39:56.579 --> 00:39:58.920
as well, that it's like you do this big thing

00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:02.039
and then you just kind of go back to being normal

00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:05.510
again. So I think that that was kind of a soapbox

00:40:05.510 --> 00:40:10.570
moment also. But yeah, I think that that's like

00:40:10.570 --> 00:40:13.909
a weird, interesting takeaway. Something to be

00:40:13.909 --> 00:40:19.210
cognizant of is post -walk depression. And I

00:40:19.210 --> 00:40:21.369
mean, everybody that I talked to that has finished

00:40:21.369 --> 00:40:23.590
a walk talked about that. Because like I said,

00:40:23.730 --> 00:40:26.889
a lot of attention. It's very exciting. You're

00:40:26.889 --> 00:40:28.909
like on constant fight or flight this entire

00:40:28.909 --> 00:40:31.869
time. And then you get back and you sleep in

00:40:31.869 --> 00:40:34.579
your own bed. And you just kind of like sometimes

00:40:34.579 --> 00:40:36.159
people feel like they don't have that purpose

00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:39.699
anymore. If you look it up, like post -tour depression

00:40:39.699 --> 00:40:42.880
for musicians is a very common thing that they

00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:46.000
go through. So I think that that is something

00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:49.539
to be wary of. I didn't really experience that

00:40:49.539 --> 00:40:51.739
a lot because my mission statement for the walk

00:40:51.739 --> 00:40:55.699
ties very closely with my business. So it's kind

00:40:55.699 --> 00:40:57.780
of like the walk will never really end for me

00:40:57.780 --> 00:41:00.760
because of the way that I designed the mission

00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:07.159
around it. It's not just achievement -focused.

00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:10.139
It's transformation -focused. Does that make

00:41:10.139 --> 00:41:15.480
sense? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that was great

00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:16.480
because that's just been something I've been

00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:18.579
very curious about because a lot of people, when

00:41:18.579 --> 00:41:20.900
we tell them this idea and when we have a conversation

00:41:20.900 --> 00:41:22.980
about it, a lot of people are like, man, you

00:41:22.980 --> 00:41:24.659
guys are going to be changed so much. I can't

00:41:24.659 --> 00:41:26.900
wait to see who you are in a year from now and

00:41:26.900 --> 00:41:29.079
all this stuff. That's been going through my

00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:30.739
head a lot. I've been very curious about it.

00:41:31.849 --> 00:41:36.389
about that after walk kind of life yeah no it's

00:41:36.389 --> 00:41:40.469
it's weird like people sometimes do i don't know

00:41:40.469 --> 00:41:43.889
what is it it's like humans take six months to

00:41:43.889 --> 00:41:48.889
get accustomed to a different situation but it's

00:41:48.889 --> 00:41:51.329
like every time that new situation happens so

00:41:51.329 --> 00:41:53.570
by the end of it my me and my fiance were kind

00:41:53.570 --> 00:41:56.130
of like well i'm walking like i'm in the middle

00:41:56.130 --> 00:41:57.750
of nowhere like it's really not that big of a

00:41:57.750 --> 00:42:00.559
deal And now we're, what, August, September,

00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:03.699
October, November, December, January. We're right

00:42:03.699 --> 00:42:06.380
around five, six months of me being back. So

00:42:06.380 --> 00:42:09.079
it's like, well, it's... And her and I have had

00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:11.260
that conversation, too, where we'll be sitting

00:42:11.260 --> 00:42:13.699
there on the couch, like, scrolling through TikTok.

00:42:14.420 --> 00:42:16.559
And she'll look up at me and be like, can you

00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:19.760
believe you did that? I'm like, it feels like

00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:22.820
a fever dream. Like, it doesn't feel real sometimes.

00:42:23.460 --> 00:42:27.059
Like, after the fact, you know? Like, I question...

00:42:27.420 --> 00:42:29.179
Like, did I really do that? Or was that just

00:42:29.179 --> 00:42:34.179
a weird dream? So it's, it's, it's funny how

00:42:34.179 --> 00:42:39.539
that kind of works out. Yeah. Yeah. So I know

00:42:39.539 --> 00:42:41.400
you've touched over a little bit and this is

00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:44.280
a broad question, but from start to finish, how

00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:47.760
do you think you have changed as a person? I

00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:52.960
think the biggest thing is just. I started understanding

00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:55.280
this like about a year or so before the walk.

00:42:55.420 --> 00:42:58.019
So I'm trained as a professional life coach.

00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:00.699
And during my training, we talked a lot about

00:43:00.699 --> 00:43:03.800
worldview and beliefs and understanding that

00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:07.920
the way that you see the world is only a fraction

00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:11.159
of how it actually works. In one of my episodes,

00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:13.599
I kind of related to like a Rubik's cube that

00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:15.719
you kind of look at one side of the cube your

00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:18.699
entire life. And then one day you kind of realize

00:43:18.699 --> 00:43:22.099
like there's. there's several other sides and

00:43:22.099 --> 00:43:24.199
then you realize that all those pieces move and

00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:25.900
there's all these different combinations and

00:43:25.900 --> 00:43:29.900
possibilities and like that was something that

00:43:29.900 --> 00:43:33.519
came up for me on the walk constantly was just

00:43:33.519 --> 00:43:35.380
understanding that there are really different

00:43:35.380 --> 00:43:37.300
people out there that even though we all share

00:43:37.300 --> 00:43:41.659
a flag and a banner we're all americans like

00:43:41.659 --> 00:43:46.489
everybody's experience is so different And with

00:43:46.489 --> 00:43:48.809
my podcast, originally it was the Within Range

00:43:48.809 --> 00:43:52.050
Coaching Podcast, which I'm going to do a regrets

00:43:52.050 --> 00:43:55.909
video around the first day or around March sometime

00:43:55.909 --> 00:43:58.869
from my walk. And I wish I had called it Rangers

00:43:58.869 --> 00:44:02.130
Walk Across America Podcast, but that's more

00:44:02.130 --> 00:44:06.110
for later. But it was just, there are so many

00:44:06.110 --> 00:44:07.590
different people out there that are doing so

00:44:07.590 --> 00:44:11.750
many different things. And it's kind of overwhelming,

00:44:11.789 --> 00:44:14.349
but really the common thread, and this was my

00:44:14.699 --> 00:44:17.000
little slogan that developed over time was there

00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:20.199
are good people out there that no matter what

00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:23.219
shitty bad things are going on in the world there's

00:44:23.219 --> 00:44:26.119
somebody out there trying to do the work to make

00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:29.260
it better whether it's for kids that are going

00:44:29.260 --> 00:44:32.079
through cancer treatment or animals that were

00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:34.739
thrown on the side of the road people going through

00:44:34.739 --> 00:44:37.579
their own sobriety journey what whatever it is

00:44:37.579 --> 00:44:39.659
there's somebody out there that is doing the

00:44:39.659 --> 00:44:43.090
work to make it better So just understanding

00:44:43.090 --> 00:44:44.829
that there are so many different types of people

00:44:44.829 --> 00:44:47.389
out there with different experiences and worldviews,

00:44:47.389 --> 00:44:49.909
but also understanding that there are good people

00:44:49.909 --> 00:44:53.050
out there. And really, it's up to us to make

00:44:53.050 --> 00:44:55.789
that decision to be one of those good people.

00:44:56.630 --> 00:45:00.690
What I would always put on some of my content

00:45:00.690 --> 00:45:04.369
was, there's good people out there. If you can't

00:45:04.369 --> 00:45:07.610
seem to find one, go look in the mirror. No matter

00:45:07.610 --> 00:45:11.380
where you go, again, you're there. So be a good

00:45:11.380 --> 00:45:21.500
you. Wow, that's beautiful. Yeah, I mean, I love

00:45:21.500 --> 00:45:25.320
that line. That inspires me. Just hearing that

00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:27.599
and thinking about the people that we're going

00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:30.159
to meet over this. Because I bet you met plenty,

00:45:30.340 --> 00:45:32.460
plenty of people. Hundreds, if not thousands.

00:45:33.219 --> 00:45:36.039
And honestly, I'm just excited to meet people

00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:38.519
of this country. We're not going to have some

00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:40.809
of the best experiences sometimes. On the other

00:45:40.809 --> 00:45:43.030
hand, we're going to have great experiences and

00:45:43.030 --> 00:45:45.230
meet great people. And I truly am excited for

00:45:45.230 --> 00:45:49.150
that. Definitely. Yeah, no. And I've always heard

00:45:49.150 --> 00:45:52.809
that every walker has one or two really bad experiences.

00:45:53.010 --> 00:45:54.969
And I mean, knock on wood that you guys don't

00:45:54.969 --> 00:45:56.829
have anything. I didn't really have anything

00:45:56.829 --> 00:46:00.090
crazy. There was a time in New Mexico, somebody

00:46:00.090 --> 00:46:02.710
tried convincing me that the town I was walking

00:46:02.710 --> 00:46:06.179
to wasn't there anymore. I'm like, what the hell

00:46:06.179 --> 00:46:07.900
do you mean it's not there anymore? Like, is

00:46:07.900 --> 00:46:09.920
this some, like, weird silent hill? Like, the

00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:13.420
town's disappeared. And, like, I'm just going

00:46:13.420 --> 00:46:15.820
to keep going. Like, whatever. I called my host

00:46:15.820 --> 00:46:18.559
family. That was in that next town. And they're

00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:20.099
like, were they in a white car? Like, a little

00:46:20.099 --> 00:46:21.760
white four -door? I'm like, yeah. They're like,

00:46:21.820 --> 00:46:23.579
okay, yeah. I'll tell you who they are later.

00:46:24.019 --> 00:46:25.500
So it's, like, weird little things like that

00:46:25.500 --> 00:46:29.360
will probably happen. But, like, overall, it's

00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:33.530
going to be a very solid, good experience. Again,

00:46:33.610 --> 00:46:38.070
don't be dumb. And that's really all you need.

00:46:38.530 --> 00:46:42.630
I mean, it's two fit dudes that are doing it,

00:46:42.690 --> 00:46:45.929
right? One of the things I talked about was I'm

00:46:45.929 --> 00:46:49.030
a six -foot white guy walking through the South.

00:46:49.190 --> 00:46:53.389
I don't feel any kind of worry about certain

00:46:53.389 --> 00:46:56.070
things. I know it sounds very identity politics

00:46:56.070 --> 00:46:59.670
-y. And that's one of the privileges that I had

00:46:59.670 --> 00:47:03.920
on it. But at the same time, you still need to

00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:05.880
be very cognizant of how you're presenting yourself.

00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:10.639
So I think that's also something to keep in mind.

00:47:11.260 --> 00:47:13.420
Does that kind of make sense also? I keep saying

00:47:13.420 --> 00:47:15.500
that as like my, that's like my filler crutch

00:47:15.500 --> 00:47:20.719
word today. No, it totally does. Anything else

00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:21.940
you guys can think of that you would need to

00:47:21.940 --> 00:47:26.750
know? I feel like. We always get our questions

00:47:26.750 --> 00:47:29.130
off and then a couple hours, a couple of days

00:47:29.130 --> 00:47:31.150
go by and we think of like six new questions.

00:47:31.230 --> 00:47:35.929
That is always how it goes. Yeah. The chafing

00:47:35.929 --> 00:47:38.090
thing is a very serious thing. Have you guys

00:47:38.090 --> 00:47:42.150
talked to anyone about that? Actually, no. Yeah.

00:47:42.349 --> 00:47:49.030
Okay. So here's like the gross body stuff. The

00:47:49.030 --> 00:47:52.199
cheeks and thighs. will probably chafe a lot

00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:56.139
what i used was body glide you can get it at

00:47:56.139 --> 00:48:00.340
like um like rei or like outdoorsy stores it's

00:48:00.340 --> 00:48:04.119
just like any anti -chafe um bomb and just put

00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:06.360
it anywhere that moves a lot so i put it like

00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:11.099
on my thighs like on the back end um because

00:48:11.099 --> 00:48:16.400
that hurts so bad when you're walking 20 30 40

00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:20.260
miles a day A lot of friction happens and that

00:48:20.260 --> 00:48:22.800
is something that will take you out for a day

00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:25.079
for rest for sure. It took me out a couple times.

00:48:26.300 --> 00:48:29.440
But if you don't, if you like run out or you

00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:31.619
can't find it or whatever when you're walking,

00:48:31.820 --> 00:48:35.659
regular deodorant also works. I would just recommend

00:48:35.659 --> 00:48:39.099
getting unscented stuff just so that like the

00:48:39.099 --> 00:48:45.719
scents don't get into any open gross. And on

00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:50.360
the blister side, um i got blister like on god

00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:54.679
um one of my pinky toes i had a blister on the

00:48:54.679 --> 00:49:00.039
side bottom and top at one point and i mean that

00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:03.039
shit hurts like you're walking a ton so it kind

00:49:03.039 --> 00:49:04.960
of makes sense like that friction that movement

00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:09.619
is gonna like it's gonna screw you up um i tried

00:49:09.619 --> 00:49:12.639
using blister band -aids but those are meant

00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:15.619
for i don't know office workers that walk less

00:49:15.619 --> 00:49:19.170
than a mile in a day. But when you're walking

00:49:19.170 --> 00:49:23.030
20 to 30, it doesn't really help. So what I ended

00:49:23.030 --> 00:49:25.789
up doing for those was popping them and putting

00:49:25.789 --> 00:49:27.809
Neosporin in the wounds to make sure that they

00:49:27.809 --> 00:49:30.369
don't get infected or anything. But that was

00:49:30.369 --> 00:49:34.110
like alleviating the pressure kind of situation.

00:49:35.650 --> 00:49:38.510
And like I said, after about a month or so of

00:49:38.510 --> 00:49:40.269
walking, your body will get more used to it.

00:49:40.429 --> 00:49:43.809
And that will be super helpful. What are you

00:49:43.809 --> 00:49:50.079
guys doing for shoes? Well, I think I bought

00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:52.500
running shoes or like, I mean, like I asked the

00:49:52.500 --> 00:49:54.400
person, like what shoes would be good for just

00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:57.000
walking on street, like everyday long distances.

00:49:57.079 --> 00:49:59.639
And they're like, you know, street running shoes.

00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:03.400
And then I got custom insoles as well. Cause

00:50:03.400 --> 00:50:06.360
I got some scoliosis going on just a little bit.

00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:08.519
So like my legs are just a little, I'm just a

00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:11.519
little uneven. So I got some custom insoles that

00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:14.579
help a lot. But shoes wise, I think it's going

00:50:14.579 --> 00:50:16.599
to be like, you know, People have been recommending

00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:18.539
something like once a month. They said they would

00:50:18.539 --> 00:50:20.360
switch to a new pair of shoes, something like

00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:23.619
that. Or it's kind of just how they felt. And

00:50:23.619 --> 00:50:26.260
then one person gave us advice of potentially

00:50:26.260 --> 00:50:29.280
doing something like having two different pairs

00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:32.380
of shoes with you. It's like each day or however

00:50:32.380 --> 00:50:34.440
long you can switch off. So maybe you're like,

00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:37.000
maybe the shoes are good. But if you switch to

00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:38.619
another pair of good shoes that are different,

00:50:38.739 --> 00:50:41.800
maybe you can put less pressure on the same parts

00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:44.550
of your foot. So we've still been debating that

00:50:44.550 --> 00:50:49.909
last part. I would have two pairs of shoes. One

00:50:49.909 --> 00:50:52.090
so that you can switch them off. What I did was

00:50:52.090 --> 00:50:55.210
I got the ultra lone peaks and I would have two

00:50:55.210 --> 00:50:58.070
pairs at any given moment, at least. And the

00:50:58.070 --> 00:50:59.750
reason for that, like you're saying, it switches

00:50:59.750 --> 00:51:01.869
off the pressure points. So you're not putting

00:51:01.869 --> 00:51:05.070
the same pressure every single day. I got advice

00:51:05.070 --> 00:51:07.309
to switch them out halfway during the day. I

00:51:07.309 --> 00:51:10.230
never really did that because the more you stop,

00:51:10.329 --> 00:51:13.880
the more. your body hurts, right? Like an object

00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:17.119
in motion stays in motion. But I would for sure

00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:20.239
try to switch them every single day. The other

00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:22.960
thing is you make a mistake and you step in a

00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:26.460
puddle and you only have one pair of shoes, you're

00:51:26.460 --> 00:51:29.880
soaked until it dries off, which can lead again

00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:32.340
to like fungus or foot, like athlete's foot or

00:51:32.340 --> 00:51:34.360
all those other issues. So I would definitely

00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:38.400
have at least two pairs each. And then like the

00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:43.659
nice thick. Have you guys read the book How to

00:51:43.659 --> 00:51:47.340
Walk Across America and Not Be an Asshole? I

00:51:47.340 --> 00:51:49.780
think my mom read it and I was planning to read

00:51:49.780 --> 00:51:53.920
it soon. Okay. That was like my Bible. Uh -huh.

00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:59.260
So I would recommend reading that. It's on Amazon.

00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:04.579
I can send you guys... I'll send you guys the

00:52:04.579 --> 00:52:10.139
Amazon link because... uh how to walk crying

00:52:10.139 --> 00:52:13.820
not being an asshole i gotta find it um that

00:52:13.820 --> 00:52:15.940
that was super helpful because he goes down to

00:52:15.940 --> 00:52:20.500
like get these kinds of socks um and even just

00:52:20.500 --> 00:52:26.420
that is super useful tyler colson yeah god send

00:52:26.420 --> 00:52:33.019
of a man um and then whatever cart you guys get

00:52:33.019 --> 00:52:39.820
um Either try to find the all -rubber inside,

00:52:40.099 --> 00:52:46.880
like inner tube, or get a heck ton of replacement

00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:51.699
tubes. I think I might have just had worse luck

00:52:51.699 --> 00:52:54.340
than other people, but I went through tubes maybe

00:52:54.340 --> 00:52:58.219
three or four a week just because the sides of

00:52:58.219 --> 00:53:02.639
roads are dirty and there's nails and... um like

00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:04.820
the inside of trucker tires like they have those

00:53:04.820 --> 00:53:07.699
like sharp wires those got stuck in my tires

00:53:07.699 --> 00:53:09.920
constantly and would deflate them and screw it

00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:14.940
up so um if you're gonna have air tires make

00:53:14.940 --> 00:53:17.860
sure you guys know how to replace them and have

00:53:17.860 --> 00:53:20.019
the tools to make it as easy as possible for

00:53:20.019 --> 00:53:25.059
yourself okay yeah for sure and then i had another

00:53:25.059 --> 00:53:28.920
question for you kind of about diet so on the

00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:33.260
walk what did you eat How many calories a day

00:53:33.260 --> 00:53:36.380
would you eat? Overall, did you lose, maintain,

00:53:36.619 --> 00:53:42.900
or gain weight? I had a nutritionist that helped

00:53:42.900 --> 00:53:46.920
me out. I can send you her info if you're interested.

00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:50.659
I know her from a networking group that I was

00:53:50.659 --> 00:53:54.440
in. She helped me out a ton. The biggest thing

00:53:54.440 --> 00:54:00.630
for me was the vitamins that she suggested. I

00:54:00.630 --> 00:54:04.289
really tried to stick to what she gave. The issue

00:54:04.289 --> 00:54:07.389
with that just became availability and affordability.

00:54:08.909 --> 00:54:12.309
So I'll see if I can send you an example, like

00:54:12.309 --> 00:54:14.690
at least one of the little plans that she sent

00:54:14.690 --> 00:54:19.369
me. She sent me a few of them. Sorry, your question

00:54:19.369 --> 00:54:23.130
was around what I ate, right? Yeah. Okay, so

00:54:23.130 --> 00:54:26.210
for the first little bit, I tried to carry almost

00:54:26.210 --> 00:54:28.489
a week's worth of food on me at any given moment.

00:54:28.570 --> 00:54:32.349
And it was a lot of stuff like bread, tortillas

00:54:32.349 --> 00:54:36.789
for carbs, peanut butter, jelly for quick sandwiches,

00:54:36.949 --> 00:54:41.449
tuna, dried fruit and veggies. So kind of things

00:54:41.449 --> 00:54:43.309
that you would think of that you would take on

00:54:43.309 --> 00:54:46.269
like a long hike. That's a lot of what I ate.

00:54:47.170 --> 00:54:50.570
What I quickly realized, what I didn't think

00:54:50.570 --> 00:54:55.510
of this ahead of time, was how frequent i would

00:54:55.510 --> 00:54:59.769
be around mcdonald's so when i say mcdonald's

00:54:59.769 --> 00:55:03.670
i mean civilization in general uh you know fast

00:55:03.670 --> 00:55:08.030
food places regular restaurants um walmart dollar

00:55:08.030 --> 00:55:12.090
general i mean in the america south if you walk

00:55:12.090 --> 00:55:14.489
out of a dollar general and throw a rock as hard

00:55:14.489 --> 00:55:17.190
as you can any direction you're gonna hit another

00:55:17.190 --> 00:55:19.769
dollar general like they're they're everywhere

00:55:22.620 --> 00:55:27.079
So, yeah, I think just being able to carry like

00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:31.800
the important like protein, good fats, carbs,

00:55:32.139 --> 00:55:36.719
etc. on you as like a quick go is going to be

00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:39.920
super helpful. But also knowing that you'll have

00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:44.719
availability. My first month or first couple

00:55:44.719 --> 00:55:49.059
weeks, I lost like almost 20 pounds like super

00:55:49.059 --> 00:55:52.039
fast. I think that's just because I was doing

00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:54.960
20 to 30 miles in a day and I wasn't eating enough.

00:55:55.699 --> 00:55:58.780
And that was because I was so focused on walking

00:55:58.780 --> 00:56:01.320
that I would forget to eat, which is a thing

00:56:01.320 --> 00:56:05.300
that happens. So I lost like 20 pounds within,

00:56:05.340 --> 00:56:08.079
I think, three or four weeks, which isn't the

00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:11.699
healthiest. And I messaged my nutritionist. I

00:56:11.699 --> 00:56:13.320
was like, hey, I think I'm screwing something

00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:15.360
up. What's going on? She's like, okay, what are

00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:17.760
you eating? I told her everything and I'm like,

00:56:17.800 --> 00:56:19.139
I'm following the meal plan. Like I'm hitting

00:56:19.139 --> 00:56:22.059
the minimum. Like that's what I'm doing. And

00:56:22.059 --> 00:56:25.159
that's when she was like, oh wait, in the email

00:56:25.159 --> 00:56:28.019
I sent you, I clarified that that is the minimum

00:56:28.019 --> 00:56:30.900
you should be eating. You should be eating two

00:56:30.900 --> 00:56:34.239
to 3000 extra calories per day to make up for

00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:38.880
the movements. I was like, oh, I didn't read

00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:42.139
that part. My bad. So then that's when I introduced

00:56:42.139 --> 00:56:46.739
like higher calorie garbage. Um, so, you know,

00:56:46.739 --> 00:56:50.360
a lot of gummy candies I got, I would go through

00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:53.380
phases where I was like eating a ton of the lifesaver

00:56:53.380 --> 00:56:56.940
gummy candies and then it was goldfish and then

00:56:56.940 --> 00:57:00.159
Cheez -Its. And then I think the last half from

00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:04.579
like, yeah, uh, like Texas to California, I was

00:57:04.579 --> 00:57:07.619
super into Pop -Tarts because they have so many

00:57:07.619 --> 00:57:09.940
different flavors. They're pretty easy to get.

00:57:10.579 --> 00:57:14.179
And I mean, You leave them on top of the cart

00:57:14.179 --> 00:57:16.000
in the sun. They warm up a little bit and it's

00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:17.719
kind of fun. Or you leave them in the cooler

00:57:17.719 --> 00:57:22.960
and they stay cool. That was also helpful. But

00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:26.219
by the end of it, I was roughly the same weight.

00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:31.079
About 270 -280. So, I don't know. Pretty big

00:57:31.079 --> 00:57:40.420
guy. Yeah. Cool. Anything else? I think I'm out.

00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:43.320
I don't know. Yeah, I think for now we might

00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:46.920
be out of questions, but we'll contact you if

00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:50.360
anything comes to mind. Yeah, I mean, we're also

00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:53.119
stupid close to each other. So if you guys wanted

00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:56.300
to meet up at an REI or sports basement and I

00:57:56.300 --> 00:57:59.260
can show you the shit I bought, I'd be super

00:57:59.260 --> 00:58:01.840
down for that too. That'd be awesome. Yeah, that'd

00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:04.300
be amazing. I'll wear a Spider -Man onesie so

00:58:04.300 --> 00:58:06.280
it fits in with one of your guys' silly videos.

00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:12.289
Yeah, we'll bring Batman too. Awesome. All right,

00:58:12.309 --> 00:58:14.369
guys. Um, yeah, no, if there's anything else

00:58:14.369 --> 00:58:16.309
or any way that I can support you guys or help

00:58:16.309 --> 00:58:19.449
out, let me know. Um, if you guys want like my

00:58:19.449 --> 00:58:21.250
personal number to ask questions when you're

00:58:21.250 --> 00:58:23.230
walking, let me know. And I'd be more than happy

00:58:23.230 --> 00:58:28.929
to, to support. So awesome. Yeah. Ranger, thank

00:58:28.929 --> 00:58:30.929
you so much for your time. This has been an awesome

00:58:30.929 --> 00:58:33.650
first podcast experience. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah,

00:58:33.730 --> 00:58:36.710
of course. I'm glad. And for all those that are

00:58:36.710 --> 00:58:38.650
listening today, thank you so much for your time

00:58:38.650 --> 00:58:41.460
and attention. And remember, the best is yet

00:58:41.460 --> 00:58:43.400
to come as long as you're willing to make the

00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:46.699
decision to never settle, never quit, and never

00:58:46.699 --> 00:58:48.699
peak. See you guys next time.