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Hello everyone and welcome to the Within Range Coaching Podcast.

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I'm Ranger, a certified holistic success coach, and in this podcast I break down the

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journey entrepreneurs face as they start their organizations, overcome roadblocks in their

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way and create an impact that lasts.

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We talk with entrepreneurs, nonprofit leaders and purpose-driven community members just

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like you.

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Together, we learn how to grow our impact and develop ourselves as the people behind

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the mission.

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My intention is to help more people, help more people.

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And remember, if you're curious about expanding your impact, growing a community or defining

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your mission, vision or values, we can chat off the record.

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You can find my info in the show notes or at my website, withinrangecoaching.com.

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with our values of fearless innovation, social responsibility and courageous candor.

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If you're interested in helping us highlight individuals doing great work in the world

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and share these values, reach out to me directly at ranger at withinrangecoaching.com.

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I know you're just as eager to get started as I am, so let's jump right in.

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Good morning, good afternoon and good evening everybody and welcome to another episode of

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the Within Range Coaching Podcast.

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And we are still continuing on our series of my walk across America journey.

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And today we're not talking with someone that I've met along the way.

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I mean, kind of sort of, but not really.

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We are doing another nonprofit partner spotlight.

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We've talked with bigger than the trail in the past.

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We've talked with the Hospice Promise Foundation and we've actually already kind of sort of

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talked it up to this organization.

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But what's unique about this organization, you know, the Future Farmers of America, is

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there's two major aspects to it.

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There's kind of that adult adult side where it's the faculty, the staff, and then there's

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also the side of leadership for the younger folks, the FFA members.

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On the national level, it's typically more so based in the recent high school graduates

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rather than the high school students like we've kind of chatted about before.

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But today we have one of those very, very special recent high school-ish slash college

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student people right now.

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She's nodding so I got that part right.

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We are joined by the 2023 to 2024 National Future Farmers of America president, Amara

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Jackson.

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Amara, how are you doing today?

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Hey, I'm good.

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Thank you so much for having me.

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I'm so excited to be here and to be able to spend our time together and celebrating and

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highlighting your journey across America and the way that it's continuing to impact agriculture

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and agro-fa.

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We're very grateful for your support and we look forward to cheering you on on your journey.

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Yeah, I appreciate it.

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I'm glad that I finally got to sit down.

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I always, it sounds so silly.

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Maybe it's not silly.

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I don't know.

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Whenever I talk to like a state or national officer, I always feel like I'm talking to

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a celebrity.

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It's like the conditioning that we kind of have in, you know, state conference or at

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the chapter level.

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It's like, oh my God, like we're going to get visited by a state officer.

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How cool is that?

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You know?

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So this is like tickling that little part of my high school brain that's like, ooh,

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look, look where I am now.

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Well, thank you.

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Something I have to tell students when I'm meeting them on the road, because we very

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often they're like, oh my gosh, it's an officer.

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Oh my gosh, like who are you?

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Or like, why are you here?

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I always just tell them like, well, my name's Amara and I'm a human too.

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Like I'm, I still get nervous.

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I still get excited.

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I still get all the things.

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And so even like this podcast, I'm just really excited to be here with you.

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So yeah, I love that.

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No and I hear you.

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I think it's so, it's so interesting because when I, my second day of my walk, there was

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a woman that walked up to me and she kind of acted like she was starstruck.

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Like she was saying like, I saw you on TikTok.

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I saw you on the news.

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Like, oh my God, you're real.

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And I was like, whoa, I'm just, I'm just an overweight white dude.

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That's that's doing that.

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That's like low key homeless and unemployed right now.

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Like, whoa, I'm just walking here, you know?

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So it's always kind of funny to see different people's reactions or how people kind of perceive,

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I guess, who you are.

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And I want to say like how important you are.

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You know what I mean though?

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It's like, it's such a weird.

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I know exactly what you're saying because you're right.

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Theoretically, I'm a college dropout student who doesn't have a job or, you know, just

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travels because I can, I guess.

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Like, yeah, it's so funny that perception and like the power that like public recognition

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or like that title can can use.

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And so I was raised thankfully by a mom who always taught me the power of humility.

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And so I have really had to lean into that this year and be like, okay, well, yes, I

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do have, I might have this title on my chest, but like it's my actions that truly make that

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biggest impact.

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And, and I would say the same for you too, like your ability to power through.

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I mean, I can only imagine the mental toughness that you have from all the walking on those

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miles.

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That's, that's where the power truly lays.

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Yeah, no, I agree.

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I think it's, it's so interesting because I mean, anybody can, okay, I want to say anybody

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can do what we do.

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I feel like anybody could, you know, quit their job, drop it, you know, go and walk

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across the country.

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I mean, plenty of people have done it with very different resources than I have less

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or more or whatever, but you're right.

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Like when you say it's more about the character, like, what do you mean when you say that?

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Like what are those character traits that you're referring to?

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Yeah.

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So when I think about character traits, like a leader or obviously any person should have

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humility, like I had mentioned, really comes to mind.

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I have always believed that you don't know what you don't know until you realize you

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don't know it.

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And same thing goes, you don't realize what you know until you realize that you know it.

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And so honestly, being humble and willing to ask those questions, admit that you don't

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know what's going on can really serve you in a capacity where people will then respect

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you for being willing to admit that you're not in the know of everything or that you're

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not necessarily the one that has all the answers.

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And so that's something that I really value.

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I also just really value the ability to remain grounded and a good listener and someone who

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isn't, who's willing to like be an observer and just like take in what's going on around

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them.

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It can be really overwhelming sometimes if you always feel like you have to be at the

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front of the line or you always feel like you have to be making that first comment or

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taking that first step.

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But there's I feel like great power in being willing to slow down and to look around you,

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observe, like remain grounded.

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I feel like you have such better control of yourself and your actions when you do that.

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Whereas if you always feel like you're running that race, like you're going to eventually

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lose control and your feet are going to go faster than your body and then you're going

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to crash and burn.

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And so I feel like those traits of just, you know, being able to remain humble and grounded

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and an observant are just so important when it comes to leadership, especially when people

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around you are like, oh my gosh, you're an X and X person or oh my goodness, like who

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are you, what are you doing now?

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Where are you traveling?

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Like to them it's very fresh and new.

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And to me, like, yeah, this is the life I live and this is how I have to remain consistent

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is through these traits.

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Yeah.

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And there's a few things there that I kind of want to highlight.

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It sounds like a lot of it, a lot of that really resonates with me because as a professional

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coach, a lot of what I do is listen and reflect and be extremely present with people.

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I mean, at my little closet desk at home, every time I was on coaching calls, I always

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had the coaching state in front of me and it was to be present and to be curious.

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Because kind of like you're saying, if you start making assumptions or you start acting

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like you know everything, who is that really serving?

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Like it's not serving yourself.

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It's not serving the person in front of you.

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It's really truly taking what people are saying and finding what's deeper, what's underneath

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that, seeing what's really going on.

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Because that's really when you learn the most is when you, I don't know, just pay attention.

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This year, like as I've traveled about almost 5000 miles just in 2024, it's all across the

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country and I've realized that like it can be so easy to have hundreds of people around

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you and to not know a single person.

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But it also can be really easy to have hundreds of people around you and have made a bunch

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of connections and a bunch of friends.

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And it's like that intentional decision in your mind of like, okay, well, I sit here

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and we'll listen and take in and observe what's going on around here.

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Or will I like maybe stick to my own thoughts, stick to maybe my phone or stick to like what's

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going on internally inside me.

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And I just have really been pondering like as a National Officer, like building connections

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with people, like how can I make sure that the person that is standing right in front

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of me is feeling seen, is feeling valued and is feeling appreciated?

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Because I've realized that so many of us lack that genuine human connection.

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And I think that's why so many people feel lonely is because they don't know who they

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can rely on.

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They don't know who they can call to.

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And they just they'll be in a room full of so many people, but not even they'll feel

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alone.

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And so like there's so much importance and in being able to build that human connection

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and make people feel like they're part of that string, like they're a part of something

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bigger than themselves.

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Because then then maybe feel less alone.

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And we feel like we can maybe be a part of something good too.

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And then my hope is that that trickle would continue.

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Yeah, kind of like if I can help this person feel seen, maybe they can help someone else

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and then help someone else.

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And I guess that's really a big part of my is my I don't know, my intention with the

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podcast overall is to help more people help more people.

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So it's always like that's always at the forefront of my mind is like, OK, I can help this person,

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but is there any way that I can serve them beyond that beyond just that initial hand

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or assistance or whatever?

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And I kind of want to circle back to something you just said a second ago, where you mentioned

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that genuine human connection, that that's something that people are lacking.

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I see that almost every single day with my walk.

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It's not every day that this happens, but I would probably say like roughly once a week

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or so when somebody pulls over to talk to me, people have told me the craziest things

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on the side of a highway.

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And I think I feel like crazy maybe may not be the right word, but it's just so I guess

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like personal and deep, whether it's struggles with mental illness or mental health, relationships

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or this or that.

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It's like when you're really able to be present and curious with them and like show that genuine

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care for a stranger, like people just like that's what people really need.

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And I think that's something that people.

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Yeah, people can feel it.

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And I think that's why like in your instance, they just like open up because they're like,

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oh my gosh, like someone finally sees me or finally understands like that.

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That happens a lot with students on my end.

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It's like they'll like finally feel valued for something.

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And then they're like, oh, and by the way, like this is something that like happened

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and I'm like, oh, OK, like I'm here to support you.

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But yeah, wow.

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That wow.

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I'm sure like that happens.

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And then like you continue walking and like, do you just like think about it or like what

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does that look like for you?

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Oh, Jesus, you're flipping the script on this one.

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I think it's so interesting.

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I mean, usually after something like that happens, I call one of my friends and I'm

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like, dude, this, you know, they kind of like talk me through it almost like nothing, nothing

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to the point that I've been extremely concerned for their safety has happened.

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But I have given out some bigger than the trail cards because they have like their little,

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I guess, their QR code for the free therapy and mental health support.

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So I'm very thankful that I had those on hand to kind of pass out to them.

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But typically it's one of those things.

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It's very much like the I think I talked to about this.

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Somebody recently about the starfish story.

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Have you heard of that?

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I haven't.

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OK, so basically it's there is, I guess, the person, whoever it is on the beach doesn't

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matter.

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She's on the beach and she's like dancing around and she's picking up starfish and throwing

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them back in the ocean.

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The beach is just covered in starfish and an old man walks up and says, what are you

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doing?

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And she's like, oh, I'm saving the starfish.

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And she picks another one up and throws it into the ocean.

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And he goes, well, there's so many of them.

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Like, what difference does it make?

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Like you're just one person.

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Like you're not going to save them all.

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And she picks up another one and says, well, it makes a difference to this one and throws

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it back in the ocean.

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Yeah, I'll send you I'll I'll I'll put in the show notes or something to.

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But no, I mean, I heard that I heard like five or six years ago and I was like, oh,

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my God, I love it.

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And that's very much what it is.

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Is you can't help everybody.

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You can't help anybody 100 percent, but maybe just that one percent to get them over the

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edge to help themselves to take action.

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And I guess in that case, usually the barrier to entry for therapy and stuff is the cost.

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So I'm kind of like, OK, maybe this conversation, maybe this resource, maybe this will be what

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kind of helps them move forward.

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So I guess at the end of the day, it's like, OK, I did everything I could in that 10 minute

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conversation on the side of the highway.

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So you kind of have to let go and like, you know, let the universe or whatever kind of

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take hold from there.

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So that's kind of how I deal with that and kind of placate it in my mind.

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That's awesome.

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That's yeah.

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I'm just super curious.

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That's awesome.

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Now let's get back to the show.

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We got carried away right away and I didn't even ask you what your intention is for today's

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episode.

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It sounds like based on the conversation we had off the record that we're still on track,

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but just for our listeners, what would you say is your intention for the rest of our

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time together?

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Yeah, looking forward to chatting with you about obviously your walk, but your walk is

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having a huge impact on the national FFA organization.

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So I'm wanting to chat a little bit about that.

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For your listeners if they don't know, his walk is impacting our students.

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In our organization we have almost one million FFA members all across the country and the

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U.S. Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico.

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And something about FFA is our students engage in work-based learning, also known as supervised

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agriculture experiences.

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And sometimes when students are trying to begin this work-based learning project, there

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can be a financial barrier.

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And so with his walk, with his commitment, he is helping our students receive SAE grants,

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which essentially provides students with financial support to create a project.

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It could be anything from research to having a livestock animal to show up there to starting

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a business themselves.

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And so these students who are our future leaders of tomorrow are receiving such great support

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from the good work that he's doing here.

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So looking forward to highlighting that and talking a little bit about our students and

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sharing their stories and the experiences that they're receiving by being an FFA member.

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Perfect.

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Yeah, so mostly talking about the good work that I'm doing.

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I love it.

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And no, so it's true.

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Yeah.

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And I'd love to hear some stories from you about the SAE grants and just to kind of share

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why I'm picking FFA.

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I mean, I mean, well, you know, I had my FFA ring right here, like my class ring, and like

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I was in it all four years.

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Super impactful for me.

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Super cute, super wholesome, right?

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But really the reason that I picked the SAE grants in particular is because I had a few

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friends in high school or people that I met from other chapters or even just as an alumni

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hearing stories that there's kids that definitely should have gone and gotten their state degrees

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or their American degrees, and they just couldn't afford to get started.

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And you know, I came from a good place where my family was able to support me.

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They were able to give me my first few animals, get help me with feed, help me with this or

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that.

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But there's other people that didn't really have that opportunity.

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And I don't know, I feel like FFA was extremely influential for me and them still.

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But I feel like it would have helped them get the recognition that I thought that they

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really deserve for the work that they were putting in.

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And so if you kind of want to take it away and share a couple stories of kiddos that

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have received that grants and where they've gone, I think that that would be extremely

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impactful and useful.

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For sure.

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So one story that I love to share, just because I find it so unique and so niche, is there

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was a student who grew up raising, showing livestock, sheep in particular, and she loved

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that.

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But she saw a need within her community and within her state that there wasn't a good

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practice to pregnancy check the female sheep, or also known as ewes, on people's farms.

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And so within her community, she production was something that a lot of families did.

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And so she through an SAE grant she had applied, received financial support, she now can ultrasound

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and pregnancy check these new lambs.

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And so she travels all across the state, checking for pregnancy checks within these animals,

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she has all the equipment needed, the safety standards, the hygiene, like all of it, she

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was able to purchase and basically get everything that she needed because of the financial support

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from the SAE grant.

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And the equipment to do an ultrasound, I like, I like, I'll sit here and think like, my

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gosh, that has to be so expensive.

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So like, I'm so thankful that she was able to receive that.

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And then she was able to continue on with that.

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She got her American FFA degree.

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And now she's working in the agriculture industry and still continuing to support our community

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in what might seem like a niche way, but to those agriculturalists is so important for

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the livelihood of their production.

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And so it's so fascinating to see how a 15 year old girl could someday be 21 now and

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still continuing on just because of that lump of money that she received as an FFA member.

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It's incredible.

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And there's stories like that all across the country.

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I know of other students who didn't grow up in rural America, but were in urban America

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and received that funding to begin research projects in hospital labs.

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That research project can be anything from testing different pesticides and herbicides

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and different plants to anything from working with livestock and analyzing maybe the way

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that a lot of animals move or their health or anything.

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It can be in a greenhouse.

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It's incredible to see the way that we're engaging students both in urban areas and

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rural areas through the SAE grants.

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And that's providing them with, like you said, the recognition, the ability to apply for

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those awards or pursue towards those different degrees and those levels within FFA simply

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because they got started with $1,000 or $1,500.

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You know, whatever that looks like, that can set a student off on a trajectory that they

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might not have had the possibility to have.

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I also love hearing stories from students where it's like, man, prior to FFA, I had

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no idea what agriculture was.

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I didn't think about where my food came from.

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I didn't think about the clothing that I was wearing.

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But then I joined FFA and I got hands on with it through an SAE, through that work-based

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learning.

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And now, like, I want to study agriculture or I want to go into a career in agriculture.

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It's so fascinating where a year prior, they were a completely different person.

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And now from being a year enrolled in agriculture science, that they have completely switched

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their trajectory and truly found a passion that encourages them to come to school.

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They built a community that allows them to feel supported and they're gaining skills

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that will carry them far beyond their time in their high school.

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And so to me, it's just really inspiring to see how someone who is 14 years old, unsure

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of what they want to do, can someday graduate high school at 18 and feel so passionate about

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an industry that they want to serve.

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Yeah, I love that.

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I don't know.

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I feel like that is such an important lesson also, right?

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I got my degree in economics, so that's kind of how I see everything, right?

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So just like the supply and demand, right?

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So I think it's so interesting that her, that she at 14, 15 was able to see that need and

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I don't know, just really know that she, a 14, 15 year old in a state with adults that

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could have done something about it way sooner, I'm sure, but was able to really take that

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leap and get that support and backing of the FFA.

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And let me know what you think about this statement.

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But one of the greatest things that I have always appreciated about FFA is that it's

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an extremely safe place to fail.

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That even if you, I don't know, you go out, you try and it just all blows up in your face.

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Now what?

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It's not like you're, I don't know, like on the streets, right?

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Like she could have done that.

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It could have gone haywire, but she still would have been able to learn something from

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it.

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It's useful in some way, but knowing that the worst case scenario isn't, I don't know,

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being homeless and unemployed in the middle of the US somewhere, I guess, I don't know,

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that she can take that risk and take that backing.

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So like, what have you seen in terms of, I don't know, like that risk mitigation of taking

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a chance with FFA for students?

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Like how have you seen that come into play?

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Yeah.

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I actually have to think of just yesterday here.

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I'm currently in Alabama.

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I was here for their state FFA convention and each year at a state convention, they

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will elect a new set of state FFA officers.

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So they'll serve across their state, travel, meet with their students.

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And so anyway, during the final session, that new team is always elected.

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And usually that group of students has spent the whole week interviewing, going through

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multiple rounds, trying to be the next state FFA officer.

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And so this leads us to yesterday morning, 12 girls were running to be selected.

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Six people get selected to serve, now they're not facing associations.

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So they knew that it was a 50-50 percent chance of whether they got elected.

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And they knew that when they left that holding room that six people were going to return

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and six people were going to leave.

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And so it was fascinating staying there and talking with them.

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And they recognize that, you know, like there's a time and place for everybody.

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And because of FFA, they could go through this interview process knowing that at the

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end, whether they're selected or not, that this is not the end of their journey.

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They know that these interviews have set them up for a job interview or have prepared them

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to hold an educated conversation with somebody who might be 20, 30 years older than them.

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Like, this is just one way that these students went through this whole process, maybe didn't

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hear their name called, but can walk away knowing they still have support of their teachers,

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their families, their mentors, all guiding them on whatever the next journey is in their

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life.

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And it's like that for students at any level of an FFA.

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I see all the time when students are competing for contests, maybe they've prepared a speech

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or they're about to go to day ag issues, whatever that is, there's always a crowd of people

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following in behind them into that competition room because they're cheering them on.

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They're proud of them.

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Maybe they've coached them.

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They believe in them.

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And that's what I truly love about FFA is people believe in people.

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And I've realized that our student membership would not be growing as fast and as large

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as it is if we didn't have that culture of belonging and that culture of support.

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Students do feel like it's an okay place to fail and they do feel like it's a good place

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to succeed.

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And they see both sides of it and they benefit from both sides of it.

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And so I would agree 100% that FFA is a very safe place to fail.

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I myself have had my own failures with an FFA and it honestly propelled me to keep going.

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It encouraged me that I was like, you know what, like when I wake up tomorrow, I can

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try again.

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And I know that's because the blue corduroy jacket is a home and it represents more than

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just myself.

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And I truly believe that our over 900,000 FFA numbers also need to feel that way too.

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And I truly believe that people join people, people don't just join organizations.

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Our organization is conducted of hundreds and hundreds of wonderful, wonderful people.

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Now I agree.

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And there was something that I learned.

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So I ran a herpetological society, lizard snakes, things like that for a few years and

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registered 501c3 president, no big deal.

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But that was something that I talked to a couple of nonprofit consultants and coaches

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and they were always saying like, stop trying to sell a membership.

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Explain to people, like don't tell them the perks.

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Don't tell them the benefits.

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Nobody cares that it's only $5 a month and you get 10% off.

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Like nobody cares.

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Frame it in the way of people like us do things like this.

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Bring them into a community.

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People don't join organizations, they join people.

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And I think that that is like a huge lesson for a lot of like inspiring nonprofit leaders

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or even entrepreneurs to really focus in on is the people, not the product, not the process.

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Nobody really cares.

463
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,240
They care about the solution.

464
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,240
They care about how it impacts them and the community that they're going to join there.

465
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:39,480
So I love that you see that and we're able to speak to that and be the expert on it right

466
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,400
now because I think that's something that is important.

467
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:43,400
Oh, thank you.

468
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,400
Yeah.

469
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:51,080
And FFA made me laugh when you mentioned like, oh, nobody cares to hit a $5.

470
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,400
Something that FFA is actually working on right now is traditionally our students have

471
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,440
had to pay dues to be an FFA member.

472
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,600
And we recognize over the last several years that that creates a financial barrier for

473
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:03,600
students.

474
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,360
Some students are not able to physically walk up to their teacher and say, here's my $10

475
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:12,040
or here's my $7 or whatever the due might be for that time being for that chapter.

476
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:19,640
And so the National FFA organization is working to become what we call 100% affiliated where

477
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:24,360
the student would no longer pay that first student due.

478
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,320
Instead, it's going to be a flat rate chapter fee.

479
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,680
And so it lifts that barrier off of the student in that community.

480
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,600
That way they no longer have to worry about asking their parent or their guardian for

481
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,120
that money or maybe giving that money themselves.

482
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,680
Instead, the chapter can support the student in that way.

483
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:46,240
And so every student sitting in that classroom is considered an FFA member, which then in

484
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,600
our terms allows them to compete in all the contests or attend the events that they'd

485
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:57,640
like or connect with the people within FFA because that due is essentially paid for them.

486
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:05,000
And so it's really exciting that to me it shows that FFA wants to continue to flourish

487
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:10,960
at people building and to allow space for those students that although financially they might

488
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,920
not be able to support themselves, kind of like the SAE grant, we still value them and

489
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,480
we still want them a part of our organization.

490
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,640
And there's still a place for them.

491
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,660
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492
00:30:23,660 --> 00:30:27,240
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493
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494
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495
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497
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498
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499
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500
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And now back to the show.

501
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,000
I think it's a little bit of a stretch for me to ask this next question, but that really

502
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,040
does kind of start bleeding into, I guess, the representation of FFA members.

503
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,040
Yeah.

504
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,600
I know that you've mentioned, you know, there's a what is it like 60 40 rule to urban or something?

505
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,840
Well, I'll let you say the numbers, I guess.

506
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:07,840
Let's do that first.

507
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,280
And then I'll ask the other question I wanted to ask you because I'm curious on your thoughts.

508
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,540
But what does that kind of look like?

509
00:31:11,540 --> 00:31:14,480
So in terms of the membership, I've gotten this question a few times.

510
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:19,280
I've gotten people look at me kind of cock eyed and they're like future farmers of America.

511
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,000
Why not like future business leaders of America?

512
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,620
Why not Boy Scouts?

513
00:31:24,620 --> 00:31:25,620
Why not Girl Scouts?

514
00:31:25,620 --> 00:31:27,240
And I'm like, well, I was never an FBLA.

515
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,240
I wasn't in Boy Scouts.

516
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,240
I wasn't in Girl Scouts.

517
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:35,400
So I'm like, it feels disingenuous to, I don't know, support an organization for the walk

518
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,800
that I'm not directly a part of.

519
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,400
It feels kind of like fanfare almost to me.

520
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:48,520
But, you know, I've always tried to explain, you know, it's yes, it's cows, plows and whatever.

521
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:53,640
But like you kind of mentioned earlier, there's a sales aspect, there's science, there's research,

522
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,960
there's so many other aspects of the FFA.

523
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,320
I guess in terms of the demographics that you've seen, like what does that kind of look

524
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,320
like to you?

525
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:03,320
Yeah.

526
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,360
So yeah, so we do know 60% of our students come from rural America.

527
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,280
The other 40% come from urban and suburban areas.

528
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,240
And that number continues to tick.

529
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,480
We watch words that even 50-50.

530
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:24,280
And so our students, our students in urban areas are continuing to engage more and more.

531
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,760
They're curious about where their food comes from.

532
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,400
They're curious about the cotton that's in their clothing.

533
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:36,480
But also our students in rural America, we recognize that as an economy, there's not

534
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:43,160
as many young students coming from traditional quote unquote perfection agriculture.

535
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:48,440
And so we need representation both in rural and urban areas because they're consumers

536
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,240
of agriculture products just like anybody else's.

537
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:58,760
And so although FFA might have previously been known as Future Farmers of America, FFA

538
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:04,680
students are becoming lawyers, becoming teachers, they're becoming research specialists, they're

539
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:10,720
becoming your next high school principal, they're becoming podcasters, they're becoming

540
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,320
business owners, they're becoming everything and anything.

541
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:20,160
And I think that's the key with FFA that sometimes people miss is like you mentioned, like it

542
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,400
might sound like they're all farmers or like all of our students are only going to return

543
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,800
to agriculture.

544
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:31,480
But our hope is that even if our student doesn't return to agriculture, it's that they become

545
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,400
an educated consumer.

546
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,160
That when they walk into that grocery store, that they're aware of what it means to read

547
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,600
a label on GMO which is not in GMO.

548
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,400
Or that they understand what it means when there's milk and it says not antibiotic.

549
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:48,000
For any of those components that relate to the agriculture industry, they're educated

550
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,000
on.

551
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,120
And so education can then trickle down someday if they build a family and have children,

552
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,960
they can educate their children on it.

553
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,360
And so it's a ripple effect that the FFA organization has.

554
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,120
And it's not just for students who are in rural production agriculture.

555
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:08,240
Yes, it was started by 33 farm boys who saw value in rural America.

556
00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:10,520
That is where our heritage links.

557
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:15,200
But we have continued to grow and understand that we need those educated consumers who

558
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,800
can connect with agriculture because if you eat three times a day and you're wearing clothes

559
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,720
right now, you are connected to agriculture.

560
00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:26,560
And you would be naked, hungry and afraid if it wasn't for agriculture.

561
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,240
And I think sometimes we forget that.

562
00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:33,120
But our students don't because they are hands deep, they are engaged, they're very aware.

563
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:38,000
And it doesn't matter whether they live down a main street in an urban city or if they

564
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,280
live on a dirt road in the middle of a cornfield.

565
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,280
They value that.

566
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,320
And that's what's so powerful about our student demographic.

567
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:49,400
Yeah, and that's I guess on the on the business side of it too, right, is what I've always

568
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:54,640
heard is niche down, find a niche, get specific on the problem, the people, the community,

569
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,640
whatever you solve.

570
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:01,160
And just, you know, from my experience in FFA and seeing where the organization is going,

571
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:07,600
that's exactly what is happening is start off very niche, you know, farmers, this and

572
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,220
that, you know, livestock, farming, plants, etc.

573
00:35:11,220 --> 00:35:16,080
And now it very much is starting to broaden out because you we were able to get such a

574
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:21,480
on it like deeply rooted in the community in these areas to say, okay, this is specifically

575
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,840
the people that we serve.

576
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:23,840
Great.

577
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,120
We've gotten this down pretty damn good.

578
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,280
Now we serve more people.

579
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,040
How can we broaden?

580
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,040
It's what is it?

581
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,800
Go deep and then go wide?

582
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:37,960
Because if you try to go wide too fast, then it's like, well, what are you really trying

583
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:38,960
to even do here?

584
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:39,960
And it's it's overwhelming.

585
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,640
It's confusing.

586
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:46,080
But now that you're so deeply rooted, you can expand out and help all these different

587
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,080
people.

588
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,720
And just like what you were saying, one of the people that comes to mind that was super

589
00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:56,400
involved in my chapter, she she was never going to be an act like she wasn't going to

590
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,400
be a farmer.

591
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,400
She that wasn't what she wanted.

592
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:04,040
But just watching her Facebook posts over the years from when she graduated, I think

593
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:09,800
she was able to go from like front desk lady at a hotel to general manager in just a few

594
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,680
years, which I don't know anything about the whole.

595
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:17,320
Well, my fiance works for a property, but not the type that she works at.

596
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:22,320
So I was like, I feel like there has to be some kind of connection on, you know, those

597
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:27,240
skills that she learned that were so specific to farming and FFA and agriculture that she

598
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:29,040
was able to take and broaden out.

599
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:34,280
And I think that's I know that's the most important thing for me is taking skills from

600
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,680
anywhere and applying it elsewhere.

601
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,760
I think that's a skill in and of itself.

602
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:44,440
Yeah, and FFA does such a good job at preparing our students to think about life outside of

603
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,440
the classroom.

604
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:52,080
At the end of our vision statement, it says, when your leadership personal growth and career

605
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,080
success.

606
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:58,920
And so we really value that students who are in the classroom as they're engaging with

607
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,200
that work based learning, as they're developing their leadership skills, that they're thinking

608
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:08,320
in terms of like, OK, how will this serve me when I'm no longer sitting in this classroom?

609
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,240
What jobs or what careers are there available for me?

610
00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:19,320
Because something that I was raised in agriculture and I didn't realize until I took my agriscience

611
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:24,240
education class and I was an FFA member that there was so many careers in agriculture far

612
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:26,800
beyond farming.

613
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:32,520
And whether that was agriculture sales, or maybe that's agricultural communications.

614
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,900
Maybe that looks like becoming a lawyer.

615
00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:41,080
Maybe you're a manager for an agribusiness, like there's so many opportunities.

616
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,440
Maybe you're passionate about livestock or plants or human health, because that still

617
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,120
impacts soil health, plant health.

618
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:53,200
I mean, all of it is tied to agriculture, like I mentioned earlier.

619
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:59,960
And so anyway, our students are getting that career success and they're having those conversations.

620
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:05,320
And like your friend, it's preparing them for a career in and out of agriculture because

621
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,200
you're prepared with those skills and that critical thinking mindset.

622
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,240
And it's just, I love watching students realize their potential.

623
00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:16,960
And then by the time they graduate, they're like, wow, my freshman version of myself never

624
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,360
could have imagined that I'd be here because of an organization called.

625
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,400
No, I think it's so funny.

626
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,440
Even there, it's like the, what is it like the butterfly effect?

627
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,760
It's like, wow, who would have known that me signing up for this class because I didn't

628
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,520
want to take regular biology.

629
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,520
Yep.

630
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,520
It happens all the time.

631
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:36,520
Yeah.

632
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,880
It's going to end me up, I don't know, in the middle of Texas in the hundred degree

633
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,720
heat for some reason.

634
00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:44,840
So it's so interesting.

635
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,240
Okay.

636
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:51,160
So there's a couple of questions that I've been asked a lot on my journey or, okay, one's

637
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,440
a question I've been asked a lot.

638
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,840
One is something I've been thinking about a lot.

639
00:38:54,840 --> 00:39:02,560
And the first question that was asked a lot is have you noticed a difference in the people

640
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:07,040
that you've met state by state, county by county, zip code by zip code?

641
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,200
Cause I don't know, I, I feel like I'm just finally getting out of the South when I want

642
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,200
to say finally, but I'm getting out of the South right now.

643
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:20,040
I'm going to kind of like the Southwest, you know, New Mexico, Arizona, California area.

644
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,960
I'm curious before I answer that for myself, I'm curious on your thoughts of traveling

645
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,640
to all these different state conventions and seeing people in different regards.

646
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,160
Yeah.

647
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:39,320
I would say the biggest thing that I've recognized is the differences in cultures.

648
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:44,560
That would probably be what separates people, but ironically, because I'm constantly meeting

649
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:51,440
with FFA members and agricultural teachers and those involved in agriculture in our community

650
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:57,560
and our industry, we offer similar values of hard work, of high integrity, of learning.

651
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,400
And so that almost draws us all together.

652
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:05,600
And no matter where I go, it almost feels like a sense of home because of those shared

653
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:06,600
values.

654
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:12,600
But when I'm in a state like Alaska, and then I come to Texas, their cultures are different,

655
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:19,600
I've learned that on the road that there's so many ways people can live their life and

656
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,640
none of it is necessarily wrong.

657
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:26,040
I mean, obviously morally there's, you know, can be things like none of it, like from day

658
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,280
to day, none of it is wrong.

659
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:33,200
Like we all just value things and prioritize things.

660
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:40,520
And I have just really loved seeing how someone might choose to spend their day or what's

661
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:45,480
really important to them or like for a student standpoint, you get one student who is all

662
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,120
in on sports and then you get another student who will travel every single weekend to a

663
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:54,040
Caval Show just based on the different values that they have or the different priorities

664
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,120
in that time being.

665
00:40:55,120 --> 00:41:01,520
And so I don't know, I just I've been fascinated by the similarity in values despite the distance

666
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:07,880
between, but also the ability to spend your time differently and still have some of those

667
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,720
priorities align even though it's in different tests.

668
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:12,880
But I'm curious to hear your perspective as well.

669
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,920
Yeah, so no, I think that's interesting.

670
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,760
That's always so, because yeah, I feel like for you, you're jumping across the nation

671
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:20,760
a lot more than I am.

672
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,280
I think mine's pretty much a straight line, right?

673
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,440
And that's kind of what I was thinking along the lines of what you're going to say is,

674
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,360
well, you're meeting with FFA members.

675
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,400
Like you know, it's a very niche community.

676
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,960
It's very similar, but I was curious about what those differences were.

677
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,600
So like, it's kind of what I figured.

678
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,920
But thank you for sharing that.

679
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:47,360
On my perspective, what I've kind of been saying is that I feel like everybody so far

680
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,040
has been the same sentence, but a different font.

681
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,040
That's so good.

682
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,040
That's such a good way to put that.

683
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,040
Yeah.

684
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,300
And I talked to a couple other guys when I met up with them in Oklahoma City that walked

685
00:41:58,300 --> 00:42:02,040
across the country and they were like, yeah, no, dude, I feel the same way.

686
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,840
Like that's very much what it was for us too.

687
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:12,160
And I think a lot of it is just that the people that have stopped to talk to me or stopped

688
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,040
to help me, like it's that same thing, right?

689
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,480
Like they have similar values.

690
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:17,600
Like they're curious.

691
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,720
They're trying to understand what's going on.

692
00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:20,720
They're open.

693
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:24,160
And you know, people that invited me into their house, like, you know, inviting the

694
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:29,800
strange, you know, again, homeless, unemployed guy into their house, you know, I'm staying

695
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,200
in spare bedrooms.

696
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,840
Some people let me stay in their kids room and they've moved them to, you know, their

697
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,080
other kids room, you know?

698
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:43,200
So it's like, it's a very weird, intimate, like very trusting environment.

699
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,640
Right.

700
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,560
So it's and again, I think that's really the big thing is that the people that approach

701
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:53,140
me or that helped me, like you said, share those similar values.

702
00:42:53,140 --> 00:42:57,280
So it's kind of funny, like no matter what you do, as long as you're being authentic,

703
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:03,200
let me know how authentic you feel about all that, but as long as you're authentic, you'll

704
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,240
find people that are authentically similar as well.

705
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:08,240
Yes, 100%.

706
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:13,640
That'll like navigate and like they'll pull towards you and you'll pull towards them.

707
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:20,000
I feel like instinctually, because I can feel comfortable or safe or like a degree of trust

708
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,600
there compared to other people that maybe aren't aligning.

709
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,840
And I would 100% agree with that.

710
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:27,840
Yeah.

711
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,200
And that's, that's kind of what I've noticed too.

712
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:34,120
I mean, I finally, gosh, I had such bad luck finding, or now I want to say bad luck, no

713
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,960
luck, I guess, finding FFA members throughout the journey.

714
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:44,480
Because I know it feels weird messaging or calling schools to try to talk to the ag advisor.

715
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,480
That's a little bit like, are you a parent?

716
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,480
No.

717
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,480
Are you a student?

718
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:50,480
No.

719
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:56,440
You know, but I finally met up with a family in Oklahoma City or not Oklahoma City, just

720
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:01,520
outside of Oklahoma City, that, you know, their kids are super involved in FFA.

721
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,320
And one of them is, you know, a state officer, all this cool stuff.

722
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:10,960
And the level of conversation we were able to have right away was so different just because

723
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,680
of those shared values and shared experience.

724
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:19,040
So I think it's always so fun whenever I finally meet someone that, you know, either they're

725
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:24,240
a runner or they had someone go through hospice care or they're an FFA member, but that level

726
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:30,200
of conversation, finding that common ground has been so useful and helpful in terms of

727
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,600
support and just good conversation.

728
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:33,600
Yeah.

729
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:34,600
That's awesome.

730
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,760
That's so special.

731
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:44,600
And then the other question I wanted to ask you is, so let me try to preface this.

732
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:49,940
And this kind of wrapping up our conversation, I think, but I was in a little town in South

733
00:44:49,940 --> 00:44:52,560
Carolina called Saluda.

734
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,600
And when I was walking into town, I got stopped by a few people.

735
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,360
And one of them was a mother daughter.

736
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,280
And the mom was like, it's okay if my daughter takes a picture with you.

737
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,440
And this kid couldn't have been more than 10 years old.

738
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,440
And I was like, sure.

739
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:07,440
Yeah, of course.

740
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:08,440
Yeah, whatever.

741
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:13,440
So I took a picture with her and I was like, oh my God, like, they were, they wanted me

742
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,240
to take a picture with their kid.

743
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:18,500
Like that's such a moment, right?

744
00:45:18,500 --> 00:45:23,560
And then recently I was in, I think it was somewhere in Oklahoma too.

745
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,200
But this mom and son, like tracked me down.

746
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,960
They saw me, they followed me into the grocery store and asked to take a picture with me.

747
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,680
And I saw that he commented on one of my posts and that picture that I took with him, it's

748
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,680
his profile picture.

749
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,400
And I was like, this is such a weird feeling.

750
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,200
Like how cool, right?

751
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,760
Like it was just like such a surreal, like, oh my God, like this kid, like this is something

752
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,240
that I would have done with like a state officer or something, you know, like it's like so

753
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:51,400
funny.

754
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,520
And there's a concept that I'm working on myself.

755
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,400
I kind of call it the kid on the couch.

756
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:02,480
And it's in terms of mission statements, vision statements, when you're working on a project.

757
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:07,120
And essentially it's kind of like, there is a kid out there that is watching what you

758
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:11,640
do that is going to read your mission statement.

759
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,160
It's going to read your vision statement.

760
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,800
That's going to be inspired by what you do.

761
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:20,600
And it's kind of like be a role model, find something that's good, like always act as

762
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:26,560
if that kid on the couch is watching like a live stream of your life almost.

763
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:27,880
And again, I'm still working on it.

764
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:32,280
I want to make it more clear for, you know, a book or a post or something.

765
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:33,280
Right.

766
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,800
But just based off of what I've said there, like what kind of comes up for you when I

767
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,080
say that?

768
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:44,960
Yeah, I, I know exactly the degree or the path that you're trying to go there because

769
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,920
I have felt that in my own life.

770
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,360
And I love your analogy of like kid on a couch watching that.

771
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,200
That's so applicable especially for our day and age.

772
00:46:54,200 --> 00:47:01,080
But as I think about my time in FFA, there's always been people throughout my journey as

773
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:08,360
a chapter member, a state officer, and now as a national officer who have expressed excitement

774
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:14,800
or it's hard because it's like, I guess what they might say, like it's so, it's so

775
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,040
I'm so honored to meet you.

776
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,080
Like that, those kinds of comments.

777
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,640
And it makes me stop and think like, okay, like why are you honored to meet me?

778
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:24,640
Like what is it about me?

779
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:29,360
And it's like, it's caused me to like internally think like, okay, like what is it about myself

780
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,160
that is like drawing them to me?

781
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:39,240
But I've realized that like when that happens, the best thing that I can do for that person

782
00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:47,080
or for that, mainly the students is to give them my time in the most humble manner possible.

783
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:51,520
Because I myself have done like have like gone up to national officer like, oh my gosh,

784
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,000
like I feel so honored to meet you.

785
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,000
Thank you so much.

786
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,280
And like it's, I've always had very humble interactions.

787
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,720
Whereas maybe there's been times when like I've gone up to somebody and they're like,

788
00:48:01,720 --> 00:48:03,200
oh my gosh, it's so cool to meet you.

789
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,200
And like they blow you off.

790
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:05,840
And they don't make you feel bad either.

791
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,480
Like those things.

792
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:14,280
And so to that kid that's sitting on the couch, I would want them to walk away being like,

793
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,480
wow, she's really humble.

794
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,480
Maybe I should like, what, how can I be more humble?

795
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,480
And how can I be more like X trait or X characteristic?

796
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:28,920
And so like my hope is that my values are always how my actions are and like that goes

797
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:29,920
a line.

798
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,080
And so that way like others can hopefully maybe act in that manner.

799
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,200
And that makes sense.

800
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,600
But it happens all the time.

801
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:42,360
It can honestly be a little overwhelming because I can think to myself, well, I'm just, I'm

802
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:43,360
just Samara.

803
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,600
Like, why do you want to like take another picture of me?

804
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,440
Or like, why do you want to like talk about like X?

805
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,640
Like sometimes it can be confusing, but I've realized like, okay, well, this is a unique

806
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,360
stage of your life that only lasts for a year.

807
00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:00,600
And so what kind of positive seeds can I plant to have that student thinking about?

808
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,600
I'm like, okay, maybe I want to have called X trait.

809
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,600
Don't think about X.

810
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,840
And so I don't know if that answers your question because I too am pondering this thought in

811
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:09,840
my mind.

812
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:15,720
I mean, and like it just happened like yesterday, like a student had came up to me and was like,

813
00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:17,600
I want to be the next National Athlete President.

814
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:18,600
Like what do I have to do?

815
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:25,160
And I was like, oh, like, so like, how can I best support them, you know, in a humble,

816
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,920
grounded manner where I've observed their needs?

817
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,000
So I was trying to think of it like that.

818
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,720
Yeah, it's so hard.

819
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:37,720
Does that answer the question?

820
00:49:37,720 --> 00:49:38,720
Yeah, I know.

821
00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:43,920
I know I kind of sprung that on you and it's, it's no, it's such an important conversation

822
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:48,520
because I think people, it can be hard to like know how to respond or react.

823
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,800
Like when someone like gives you a compliment in that way or like, it's excited to see you

824
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:53,800
in that way.

825
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,480
And so it's a, it's a good conversation to have.

826
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:57,480
Yeah.

827
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,560
Kind of like a, it's, it's so, I mean, cause for me, I'm 90.

828
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,040
Today's day 91 actually for my walk.

829
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,600
So it's like, I'm 90, almost a hundred days in, like, I'm like, I'm used to it.

830
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,920
I like, it's just get through it at this point.

831
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:11,920
Right.

832
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:12,920
But there's people that meet me every day.

833
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:13,920
Oh, I saw you on the news.

834
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:14,920
I saw you on TikTok.

835
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:15,920
I saw you on social media.

836
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:16,920
Are you, are you the guy?

837
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:17,920
You know?

838
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:22,600
And it's always like, okay, this is, this is a cool experience for them too.

839
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:27,020
Like just as much as this whole thing is for me, like this conversation, this meeting is

840
00:50:27,020 --> 00:50:30,480
also important and impactful for them.

841
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,920
Like almost more so than for me in a way.

842
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:33,920
Right.

843
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:34,920
Yeah.

844
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,600
I had a mentor tell me once, and this has helped me a lot too.

845
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,040
And I just remembered it.

846
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:46,360
They said it could be your 1000th time, like meeting a student or giving a workshop or

847
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,840
getting a keynote speech, but it's their first time.

848
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,540
And so how can you make it the most impactful way for them?

849
00:50:53,540 --> 00:50:54,780
And I just remembered that.

850
00:50:54,780 --> 00:50:57,560
And that really does, that is something that I think about a lot.

851
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:02,160
Like, okay, well I might be tired or overwhelmed right now, but it's their first time or possibly

852
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:07,360
their only time interacting with a national officer or their only time interacting with

853
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,200
somebody who's walking all across the country.

854
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,200
And like, yeah.

855
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:14,160
And so I try to remember that too, from a humility standpoint.

856
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:15,160
Okay.

857
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:20,240
So there's, I can't remember who it was.

858
00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:22,760
It was like, it's okay.

859
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,800
I'm like stumbling all over myself.

860
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:29,240
There's a business creator that I watched, Alex Hermosy, and he tells this story.

861
00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:34,020
I think it's Michael Jordan, but Michael Jordan, I guess, was asked in an interview, like why

862
00:51:34,020 --> 00:51:39,220
he never sits the bench or why he always tries his best.

863
00:51:39,220 --> 00:51:44,000
And he was like, there's a dad that was able to scrape together enough money to bring him

864
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,280
and his son to this game.

865
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,800
It's going to be the only chance that they ever get to go to a game like this.

866
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:57,480
Like I know that I'm important enough that they are like, they're there to see me, but

867
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,280
I'm humble enough to give them a good show.

868
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:00,820
Like I'm doing this for them.

869
00:52:00,820 --> 00:52:05,280
So it's kind of like, it's such a weird thing of like knowing how important you are, but

870
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,200
also being humble enough to not let it get to your head.

871
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,440
Yes, you just hit the nail on the head.

872
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,440
Yeah, I'm going to have to find that story and link it in the show notes because I'm

873
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:17,440
like, I'm butchering it.

874
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:22,000
But I think that that gets the game, I guess that that explains the game then, right?

875
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,960
Of what it is that you're trying to do is knowing how important it is for them, but

876
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,000
being humble enough to, I guess, still show up.

877
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,000
100%.

878
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:35,520
Because you don't want to shoot yourself short because like what you're doing is really impactful

879
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,600
and it is for you, it's a once in a lifetime opportunity.

880
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,760
But at the same time, you don't want to run people over in the midst.

881
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:49,600
So like, that's exactly that's that's exactly it.

882
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:50,600
We did it.

883
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:51,600
We got it.

884
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:52,600
Awesome.

885
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,080
I'd probably say that's a good point to wrap up.

886
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:59,440
Is there anything else that you want to tell the people of the internet before we hop off?

887
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:05,640
Yeah, if someone's not familiar with FFA, I encourage you to go to FFA.org and just

888
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,160
scroll through our website and learn about what our students are doing.

889
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:14,800
Also, we're very active on Instagram, Facebook, those good things.

890
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,960
Always love sharing the message of agriculture and agriculture education.

891
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,760
So love to connect if you ever have any more questions.

892
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,240
But again, thank you for having me.

893
00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:24,240
Best of luck on your journey.

894
00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:26,520
It's going to be an incredible rest of the way.

895
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:31,560
Hopefully you can stay cool kind of as you go through the southwest and wishing you safe,

896
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,040
healthy and happy travels.

897
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,320
Perfect.

898
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:36,320
Thank you.

899
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:37,320
I appreciate it.

900
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,640
It's going to be my mantra the next couple of months.

901
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,400
But just like Amara said, all the information for the National Future Farmers of America

902
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:48,440
Association will be linked down in the show notes, their website, Facebook, Instagram,

903
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:53,360
I don't know if you guys are on Twitter, whatever information I can find and ways to connect

904
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,560
with the organization I will put down below.

905
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,920
But if you have any questions, comments, concerns, emotional outbursts about the organization,

906
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:02,080
I'm always down to field questions.

907
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:06,280
And I'm sure if you DM the pages, they'll answer questions as well.

908
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,000
And if you can find Amara, I'm sure she'll answer too.

909
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,960
So yes, I'm like volunteering you for things.

910
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,400
But anyway, Amara, thank you so much for your time today.

911
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:16,960
I appreciate it.

912
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,640
And I hope you have a great rest of your term and beyond.

913
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,160
Thank you.

914
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,840
And once again, thank you to the listeners today for spending some time with Amara and

915
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:27,840
I.

916
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:33,040
I think we had a great conversation about the impact that FFA has on students all the

917
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:40,480
way from Alaska to Florida, New York to California, and just how impactful and important that

918
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:45,880
connection of the Blue Jacket has on these members being able to make true connections

919
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:46,880
with one another.

920
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:52,160
I'd say really the big three takeaways I have from this conversation are the importance

921
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:57,880
of being open, present and curious and conversations with those that you meet.

922
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:02,180
Really thinking about the question of what it means to be a leader with the kid on the

923
00:55:02,180 --> 00:55:09,560
couch analogy that we kind of came up with and just really understanding that when it

924
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:14,040
comes to building an organization, there's a few key factors.

925
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:20,680
And I'd really say it's about really digging your roots down deep and being niche and understanding

926
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,440
the problem that you saw the community that you serve.

927
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:27,560
And then over time, being open to the possibility of opening it up to others.

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I think that's something that the FFA has done really well and will continue to do well

929
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moving forward.

930
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:39,440
But once again, if you'd like to learn more about the FFA and the impact that they have,

931
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how you can support, please go ahead and look in the show notes below.

932
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I will link their website, social media and everything down there.

933
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,980
And if you'd like to donate to my Walk Across America fundraiser, the link is down there

934
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as well.

935
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And I would appreciate any support you can give, whether it's monetarily, whether it's

936
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sharing, commenting, helping with the algorithm, really just promoting the good work that these

937
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organizations do.

938
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But as always, remember to have fun, stay safe, be yourself, and I'll see you guys again

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next week.

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Bye now.

