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Hello everyone and welcome to the Within Range Coaching podcast.

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I'm Ranger, certified holistic success coach, and in this podcast, I'm bringing down the

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journey that entrepreneurs face as they start their organization, find solutions to the

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roadblocks in their way, and create an impact that lasts.

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So if you're an entrepreneur, nonprofit leader, or purpose-driven community member that wants

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to learn how to grow your impact and develop yourself as the person behind the mission,

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then this podcast is for you.

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I know you're just as eager to get started as I am, so let's jump right in.

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Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening everybody, and welcome to today's episode

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of the Within Range Coaching podcast.

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And we're continuing on with our Walk Across America series, but we're going to take a

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step back from the folks and entrepreneurs, nonprofit leaders, and community members that

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I've met during the journey, and we're going to kind of circle back to one of the organizations

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that I'm raising money for while I am making my jaunt across our nation.

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As most of you know, I'm raising money for three different charities, Bigger Than the

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Trail, which is a mental health advocacy group, and the Hospice Promise Foundation that covers

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non-medical hospice-related expenses for those going through treatment, and of course, I'm

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also raising money for the Future Farmers of America.

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And I mean, I'll probably make a whole other podcast episode about my background in FFA

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and why it was so impactful for me and why I chose to raise money for them, but I feel

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like by the end of this conversation, you'll have a good understanding of really, I guess,

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the implications and the importance of it from someone that is currently working for

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the FFA.

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And when I say working, I mean, she is in the trenches.

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She's been there for 22, 22-ish years.

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Yes.

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She's nodding.

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Perfect.

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So she's been there for 22 years and is currently serving as a communications manager for the

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national organization.

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I am joined by Kristi Meyer.

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Kristi, thank you for joining us today.

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Thanks for having me, Ranger.

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I appreciate it.

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Of course.

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Yeah.

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And I mean, I'm already excited to jump in.

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I feel like we can kind of nerd out on the blue and gold, but in terms of you, would

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you mind sharing with us what your intention for today's episode is and a little bit about

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yourself?

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Yeah.

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So my intention for today's episode is really for people to understand the importance of

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agriculture education and FFA and what it brings not just to those involved in it, but

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to those to support it.

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And I can just kind of hop in with a little bit about my background.

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The interesting thing about me is I've worked at FFA for 22 years, but I do not have an

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FFA background.

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I was never an FFA member and I was not in agriculture.

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I moved around a lot with my family and never had the opportunity to join FFA.

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Instead, I majored in journalism and went to work for a local newspaper.

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And I always joke that it might've been a little bit of foreshadowing because I was

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farm editor for six months.

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After a while, I loved being a journalist.

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I love newspaper.

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The hours weren't always the best.

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And I had a colleague who mentioned that FFA was looking for someone in a communications

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position.

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And when I interviewed for the position, I told the director at the time, I said, the

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great thing is I know nothing about agriculture.

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So who better to tell that story?

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And I've been telling the story of agriculture for 22 years.

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And honestly, Ranger, I've fallen in love with it and it means so much.

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It's why I have never left.

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Interesting.

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So I want to touch on what you just said, the, you know nothing about agriculture.

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So who better to tell the story?

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Like, why do you say that?

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Well, I say that when I at least started, right?

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When I started, I didn't know anything about FFA.

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And so I thought, well, for someone who doesn't know everything, it's probably easier to tell

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the story and not get bogged down in some of the acronyms and all of the background.

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For those of your listeners who are in FFA, they know what I mean by acronyms.

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I'll always talk about like this CDE or this LDE, and for those of us who weren't in it,

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we don't know what it means, right?

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So I was able to kind of boil it down.

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I get bogged down by those all the time.

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You know, what is it?

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SAE, CDE, GHC, that's like all these crazy things.

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And it's like when you're, again, I'm just a few years out.

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Well, oh my gosh, like almost 10 years out, geez.

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And it's still, whenever I see it, I'm like, wait, that was, I'm like counting on my fingers

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trying to remember.

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But yeah, no, I think what you said there is really interesting that you're able to

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kind of let your own curiosity and I guess really just be that sponge and explain it

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in a way that others could easily understand.

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Because you're not getting caught down in the semantics and the jargon, the million

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acronyms that are present.

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You're able to really dive in and tell that story for yourself or your own understanding,

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which in turn, I assume would make it easier for those reading it to understand.

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Yeah, at least that's my hope, right?

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Is by not really knowing any, I feel like after 22 years, I know a little bit more,

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but I'm always learning something new.

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And I will tell you, the other thing about this position is I am never bored.

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There are so many amazing stories out there about our members, our alumni, the difference

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they're making in their communities and in agriculture that I'm never bored.

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And I'm always having stories to share out with people and let them know what a difference

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these individuals are making.

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how you find them, et cetera.

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And again, it sounds silly for me to ask, but can you kind of just explain what the

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FFA is and the, like who can be in it?

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What does it do?

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Like give that bare bone basic description for us.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So the unique thing about FFA is our organization is what we call intracurricular.

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So in order for a person to be an FFA member, they have to take an agricultural education

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class.

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So their schools have to have agriculture education classes.

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And if they have those classes, then they can have an FFA chapter and be involved.

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And there's different levels of involvement of those FFA chapters, right?

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Some members get all in and participate wholeheartedly, do leadership positions, do competitive events.

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Many do what we call supervised agriculture experiences, SAEs, if you were using the acronyms.

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But those are projects.

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Those are projects that are hands-on learning experiences for those members.

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And the great thing about FFA is that they have those opportunities, right?

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So they can kind of explore all those different career pathways.

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I like to share with people that this organization creates leaders, but it also helps our members

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determine what career pathways they're going to take too.

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And as you know, and your listeners may know too, there are more than 350 careers in agriculture.

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It's not just production agriculture.

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So it's really an opportunity for our members to explore that.

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And a little bit further than that, to really give back to their community because service

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is also at key.

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So FFA really is a student-led organization that creates premier leadership, personal

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growth, and career success.

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And to really tie that all in, there's the three circles of Ag.

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So there's the classroom.

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You go to the class.

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I took an agricultural mechanics class, Ag.Biology, Agricultural Sciences 1, which was plants,

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Agricultural Sciences 2, which was animals for us.

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So there's a classroom experience, the SAE, which is the supervised agricultural experience,

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I'm raising a sheep.

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I'm growing vegetables for the fair.

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And those are the competitions.

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So for me, I did the veterinary science one.

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Started that at my school.

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Livestock judging.

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And then it's like the Napoleon Dynamite thing.

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They're going and they're tasting the milk or looking at the different, kind of like

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the nerdy farming stuff.

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But there's also the ones that are like, oh, we're doing prepared public speaking.

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This is a 10-minute speech.

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We're going to do job interview.

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Like you were saying, it's not just the boots on the ground, hoe-ers, mowers, but growers.

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It's the people that are, like the auxiliary parts of it too, right?

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The salesmen, the managers, the leadership, the advocates.

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It's really more broad than I think people think when they hear future farmers of America,

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which makes total sense.

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I've had people be like, oh, you're just raising money for farm kids.

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I'm like, kind of, but no.

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I always like to tell people too that I think that's a misnomer, right?

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Agriculture is all around us every day from the food we eat, the clothes we wear, the

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fuel in our car.

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Every single thing you touch each day has a component of agriculture.

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And I think when you break that down and let people understand how important that is and

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how important it is to build that talent pipeline in the agriculture industry, it gives it kind

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of another perspective.

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And that is a discussion that I've had with, I don't know, hundreds of people basically

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at this point.

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Oh, I bet.

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You know, just explaining what it is.

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Like, oh, again, like we were saying, like, it's not just the boots on the ground, which

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that is very much needed, but it's career in general, not just, you know, it's not like

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if you're an FFA, you can only go into ag, you know?

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But you have that understanding and that background to bring it into these other careers.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So to kind of explain it on the, let's start maybe from the student side, from what you

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have been able to see and what you've been able to observe.

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Because again, since you weren't in it, I think you kind of had that unique perspective

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of what you've seen in kids that have gone through the program.

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Can you talk a little bit about that?

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Oh, yeah, I would be more than happy to talk about that.

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I'm going to go back a few years, though.

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So when I started trying to drink from the fire hose, everything that the organization

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was and meant, but the aha moment for me was when I went to our national convention.

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And at the time, I think our attendance was about 50 or 60,000.

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Again, this was 22 years ago.

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And watching these students and their faces and as they were meeting other people and

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connecting and then hearing their stories, it really impacted me of what a difference

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FFA made.

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We had stories of people telling us that they were afraid to talk in front of people until

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they took an ag class.

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And then their ag instructor encouraged them to do public speaking.

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And then they were fine being a public speaker.

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They became a state officer or chapter officer.

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And so you really watched how their relationship with their ag advisor, encouraging them to

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think a little bit outside the box and push them, helped them develop not just those academic

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skills but those soft skills that help you in leadership roles.

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So I really noticed that.

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And honestly, I think it was maybe that my first or second year, I kept thinking, it's

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really too bad that my high school didn't have a chapter because it just did so much

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for these students.

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And so over the years, I've just continued to watch that in the stories that come out

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of, I was really shy.

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I was in the back of the classroom.

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I never wanted to get involved.

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I took an FFA intro class and then I started to get involved and decided what pathway I

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wanted to take, decided what I wanted to study.

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A man who won star in agris science one year and he ended up creating a way to end kudzu,

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which is an invasive species in the South.

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And so he figured out how to do that and he patented it.

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And then he went to work for NASA.

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So when you hear that, you're like, oh, okay, that's pretty impressive.

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I think that's so interesting because it sounds like there's such a spectrum of impact that

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the organization can make on someone, whether it's going from just the shy, probably lacking

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confidence kid to even being a chapter officer, like putting themselves in that position to

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lose, to be, we vote on it and all that kind of stuff.

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So being able to even say, I'll put my hat in the ring to winning it, all the way up

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to this kid, which I feel like that's a whole story in and of itself, to go all, like invent

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something that I'm sure other people were trying to figure out, you know, like actual

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scientists.

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That's crazy.

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And I guess more so, I want your opinion on this because the way that I've kind of described

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it is organizations like FFA and even fraternity that I was in the Alpha Gamma Rho fraternity.

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So the ag, I don't know, I felt like it was the college version almost.

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It really gives you that padding and like a safe place to fail because, okay, I'm glad

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that you kind of agree on that one too.

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Like what, what do you think is that, what do you think is important about that for kids

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and development?

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I think it's that support system.

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official dress, official dress is that blue corduroy jacket, skirts or pants for women

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now and black pants for men, but a lot of times we ask our members what that jacket

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means just because it's a symbol.

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And so many times we have students tell us that when they sip up that jacket, they feel

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a part of something.

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They feel like they're a family.

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They feel like they're a community.

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And I think that's so important, especially for the age that they are right to feel a

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part of something, to have that support system.

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So whether that support system be fellow FFA members or the advisor, but I think that helps

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them because inevitably there's going to be times in your life where you're not going

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to necessarily always succeed, right?

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But to have that support system there.

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And I think that's what that offers, whether it be your fellow chapter members or your

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advisor or your supporters, you end up having a support system through FFA.

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And what you're saying right there reminded me of something.

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Do you have you ever heard of the American Legion?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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I used something called Boys State, which is like the mock government, whatever, foreshadowing

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of a podcast episode I have coming up for those listening.

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And I was sent to it from my school and I ran for secretary of state, I think.

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I didn't know what secretary of state did.

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It sounded like fun.

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I wanted to be the sauce person.

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I thought it was cute.

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And during my speech, I made a con like I referenced the FFA creed, which like this

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five paragraph.

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I don't know.

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We all recite it together.

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It sounds crazy.

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But I said something from it.

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And three hours later, after all the speeches and elections, another guy from another chapter

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from the other side of the state hunted me down and was like, was that an FFA reference?

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I was like, yeah.

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And he's like shook my hand and hugged me.

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He's all like, I've been looking for other people, blah, blah, blah.

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And he had like his chapter pin and his cowboy hat.

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I was like, no freaking way.

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That's so funny.

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And him and I are still buddies to this day.

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Like what again, like 10, 12 years ago.

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So like you're like you're saying that it really is a community that is I don't know.

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I feel like it's stronger than like other basic clubs, you know, because we because

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again, it's inter-curricular.

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Like, you know that you have something in common beyond just I put my name on the like

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on a club roster, right?

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Yeah, exactly.

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And I think that's one of the things that we strive for, right?

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Is that when everybody gets together at some of these events like our convention, that

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they can find people and maybe network with them, right?

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Maybe they find somebody from the completely opposite side of the United States or from

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Puerto Rico or from the U.S. Virgin Islands and can connect so they have something in

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common.

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Who would think who would think you would have something in common from somebody that

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far away, but having that common denominator to start that conversation, that's important.

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Yeah.

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And I'll pretty much every job that I've ever been in, I asked them if they were involved

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in like, oh, like what clubs were you in in high school?

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What extracurriculars were you in in college?

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You know, because I'm trying to find like, oh, you know, I was an FFA and I'm like, oh,

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thank God we can be friends.

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Not just like if you're not an FFA, we can't be friends.

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But it's like, OK, now it's like easier to have a conversation like, oh, what did you

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raise?

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Oh, yeah, that's what my ring is like, you know.

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So yeah, that common denominator is so important.

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In terms of national convention, I went to my first one in 2018 and President Trump was

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there, which politics aside, whatever, we can talk about that on another episode maybe

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that we don't publish here.

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But like, it's a big deal.

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Like I don't I don't think the president of the US would show up to just any club get

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together with a bunch of kids.

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So it's it's a very I don't know, it's maybe from your side you can say something different

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about it.

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But I thought that that was crazy.

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It was crazy.

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Yeah.

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And my my side has a lot to do with the dignitaries when they come in.

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Doing the invitations and everything and then working with Irina.

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So side note, our convention, super large this year, we had over seventy three thousand

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people in attendance, but we only have one hundred and five people at the center.

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So I always like to sing the praises of my colleagues that one hundred and five of us

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put on that convention.

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So I'm pretty proud of my colleagues.

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That's amazing.

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Yeah.

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But we always invite the secretary of ag and the secretary of education and then the sitting

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president.

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We usually invite him the first two years so it's not going to conflict with like a

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campaigning position.

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And then we always invite the city mayor of the city and the governor because Indianapolis

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currently hosts our convention.

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And so the the mayor and the governor have been instrumental in helping us get those

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supports.

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So but yeah, it's I mean, I feel like.

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Those dignitaries understand what our members are right.

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Our members are those future leaders.

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They're going to make a difference and they're also going to be those leaders in industry

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to so.

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So they're kind of understanding that if we support these kids, then they're going to

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be the ones that are kind of like the changing of the guard.

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They're going to be the ones that are potentially president or governor or mayor or even just

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a community member that shows up and does the work and is on the committees.

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Absolutely.

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And that's one of the things, too.

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We talked a little bit about the different facets of FFA, but one area is leadership.

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We talked about that some of the leadership conferences.

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But another area we talk about is advocacy of how to advocate for agriculture, but also

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knowing knowing that is important, how to advocate, how to know those leaders in your

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community so you can work with those leaders, talk with those leaders.

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Washington Leadership Conference in D.C.

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We have that.

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That's an opportunity for them to go to the Hill, visit their congressmen.

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Same with State Officers Summit, where the state officers can go out to D.C., do those

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congressional visits so they understand how that works.

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That's part of being a leader in your community, right, is to advocate for your community and

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for the things that your community needs.

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Definitely.

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I guess on the adult, adult-y or adult side of the people that work for FFA, like what

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is it that you guys, like what is that, I don't want to say like a day in the life,

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but like the basic challenges, the basic jobs, like I think that that's kind of interesting,

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but I'm not really sure what question I want to ask there.

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Sure.

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So I'll touch a little bit on advocacy and then go a little bit on some other pieces.

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So with FFA, we're not, we're apolitical, right?

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So we don't, we're nonpartisan.

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When I talk about advocacy, we're really talking about issues that face our members or agriculture,

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such as the current farm bill.

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With the farm bill, one of the things that we're asking for is for a position in USDA

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that works with the youth organizations.

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So like FFA and 4-H.

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So I just want your listeners to be clear that we're not taking any political sides,

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you know, of how the advocacy works.

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So that, that's also like a, a very fine line you have to walk, right?

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Of how do we advocate for our members and make sure that it's not political.

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So we have a team who does advocacy and also literacy that talks about ag literacy, how

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we share that ag literacy works on pieces like ag day.

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We have a whole division, our educational division, which works with our advisors, which

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helps try and give them resources that they might be able to use in the classroom with

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their members.

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Then we have a leadership division who works with our state officers and with our conferences,

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our leadership conferences.

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So they figure out what that curriculum looks like, where those conferences are going to

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be, hire the facilitators and works with members.

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And then we have an events division where they coordinate with all those conferences.

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And of course, with the convention, which is one of our largest events as, as you know,

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as you've gone for your listeners who have, who just think it's, oh, just a little convention

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to put it in perspective.

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We use Lucas oil stadium, bankers life field house, where the Pacers play or played until

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they got beat by the Celtics.

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The Indiana state fairgrounds, seven event hotels, and we book about 120 hotels for that

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week of convention.

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So it's a very large event that takes up the entire city and we have a team who works with

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all of those venues to make sure we have the facilities that we need.

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So that's kind of a, an overview of some of the people who touch members every day.

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And then of course we have the stuff that doesn't touch members every day, like our

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finance department and in our IT department that we couldn't do anything without.

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And then we have our foundation and our foundation works with our corporate sponsors and our

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individual donors to explain the FFA story and hopefully get support so we can continue

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to do those programs.

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So that's kind of, that's kind of it in a nutshell.

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I will say that COVID was a little bit of a struggle for all of us.

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We were all working from home.

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The organization was great when we did go back.

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We did hybrid.

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So three days a week we're in and we get to see everybody.

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And then two days a week we're still at home.

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But yeah, it's like I said, 105 people, but those individuals are very busy and we all

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have a passion for agriculture and for our members.

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Yeah I think that's, that's always so funny to hear.

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Because when you're a member or I don't know, an outsider looking in and like seeing all

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the blue jackets and this and that, like you don't think of the 105 people that are, I

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guess what the people behind the mission kind of using my own nomenclature there, but that

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are making it all happen.

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Right?

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Like it's, it's always so fascinating for me to hear like the organizational structure

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that businesses, nonprofits, et cetera have.

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Because yeah, I mean, 105 people, it sounds like a ton.

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And then once you start kind of getting involved in everything, you're like, okay, that's not

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a whole lot for, for a conference that has 75,000.

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Because isn't FFA total like 300, how many people are in across the nation?

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Do you know at the top of your head?

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Currently we're more than 945,000, but we are trending towards a million.

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That is insane.

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And what considerations need to be made as the membership grows on a national level?

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Cause it's, it's mostly the chapters that would be growing.

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So I figured the ag teachers, I'll probably have my ag teacher on at some point, but like

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what is that significance as you, as you kind of push to a million on the national level?

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A couple of things.

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One, definitely there's such a need for ag teachers, right?

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Because I don't think people understand that our ag teachers are so amazing because yes,

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they're teaching, but they're also our FFA advisors.

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So they're doing so much outside of the classroom with their FFA members and it's definitely

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not a nine to five job for them.

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And so you run the risk of burnout.

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So we really need to make sure that we have that support for them.

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You know, how can we support our ag advisors and ag education teachers and how can we encourage

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those members to go into education?

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But then the other option is our other avenue we really need to look at is how do we make

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sure that all FFA members feel apart, right?

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Like how do we make sure that they feel included?

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And so that's, that's one of our jobs is to make sure that we break down those barriers

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so that anybody who wants to be a member can be a member and then make sure that we have

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those opportunities, right?

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We talked about more than 350 careers in ag.

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Well, knowing that there's a lot of opportunities for different SAEs, whether it's raising livestock

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or maybe it's something as like working in a pet store or working at a zoo or we have

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one young lady, she worked as a whitewater raft guide because that fell under outdoor

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recreation, which was a proficiency area.

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So you know, really letting people know that there's different opportunities there and

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helping them understand that while also helping them understand the importance of agriculture

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education.

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00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:43,200
We're growing a lot in urban settings and I think there's a couple reasons for that.

469
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,720
I think that people now do have an interest of where their food comes from, right?

470
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:52,860
So there's a lot of opportunities to do greenhouses, rooftop gardens, you know, and really help

471
00:26:52,860 --> 00:26:55,560
people understand where their food comes from.

472
00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:02,240
But also the sciences, science is huge right now, especially like biotechnology and food

473
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,240
sciences.

474
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,840
So there's also a big push there.

475
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:10,840
So our challenge and our job is to break down those barriers for those members who want

476
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,760
to be a part to make sure they're a part and also make sure that they feel welcomed.

477
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:20,600
Yeah, so it sounds like a lot of like diversity inclusion, whether it's, you know, nationalities,

478
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:26,960
skin color, all these, you know, like you were saying from the middle of nowhere town

479
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,160
all the way to these metropolitan areas, because I'm sure that those kids are also kind of

480
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,880
like, why would I want to be in the farm group, you know, but like you're saying, it's also

481
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:43,840
that diversity and inclusion of careers, of pathways, of titles, jobs, careers, because

482
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,440
I know that the way that I kind of saw it in FFA was whatever job you have, you can

483
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,240
argue it for your project, right?

484
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,560
Like there's some way that you could connect it.

485
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:59,240
But even if you're making that stretch and you're fighting and arguing for I felt like

486
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,040
that was like a proficiency in and of itself of trying to convince the I teacher that this

487
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,040
counts.

488
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,180
I think she kind of played along with it too sometimes.

489
00:28:07,180 --> 00:28:09,740
But you know, you look at it through a different lens.

490
00:28:09,740 --> 00:28:13,400
It's like, how is this actually benefiting me right now?

491
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:18,040
Like okay, well, if I'm working as a cashier in the grocery store, and you're like reading

492
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,360
in the proficiency, like how can I get this to work?

493
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:24,940
Like you're taking a more active role in it even, which I feel like for kids is also so

494
00:28:24,940 --> 00:28:29,480
important to see the value in every experience.

495
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:30,560
Yeah, absolutely.

496
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:35,440
And everything that you're learning right in that hands on experience is something that

497
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,440
you can apply.

498
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:37,520
You know, we really talk about that.

499
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,920
Like I think sometimes we forget those soft skills that are needed.

500
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,920
And so so many of those opportunities like working at a grocery store, those are skills

501
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,760
that you can take to other places, right?

502
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,280
Because okay, you might think, well, I'm just stocking shelves, or I'm just checking out

503
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:57,720
items, but you're having that interaction with people, you're still having those dialogues,

504
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:58,960
that connectivity.

505
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:03,320
So there's really a lot of pieces that you're learning as you go along.

506
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:09,580
And those experiences when you're 14, 15, 16, aren't that big of a deal until you're

507
00:29:09,580 --> 00:29:14,160
in your 30s, and you find someone that doesn't have those skills.

508
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,160
Correct.

509
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,340
And you go, oh my good, how would you mean you don't know how to run a POS, like a point

510
00:29:19,340 --> 00:29:20,340
of sale?

511
00:29:20,340 --> 00:29:23,120
How do you not know how to greet a customer when they walk in?

512
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,120
You know what I mean?

513
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:30,320
So it's like you get that leg up because you're having to do these different basic skills

514
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,440
over and over and over again, that I feel like it becomes kind of like what you're saying

515
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,000
earlier, like the what is it like the curse of knowledge?

516
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,000
Right?

517
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,600
You don't know that people don't know certain things, and it doesn't make sense to you.

518
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,720
But it's like, you didn't know that 10, 15, 20 years ago.

519
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:47,720
Exactly.

520
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,720
Exactly.

521
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:49,720
Yeah.

522
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,500
And that's the student side, that trajectory.

523
00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:55,600
So you come in as a freshman.

524
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:56,600
I don't know.

525
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,560
I felt like that was the biggest thing was that I didn't know all the opportunities that

526
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:05,360
you could do until I was a junior or senior, because there's just so much stuff going on.

527
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,120
You're getting all these different things thrown at you.

528
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,200
And then you're a senior and you're like, well, shoot.

529
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,640
Like there's all these other things I could have done.

530
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:14,920
I wish I had more time.

531
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:15,920
But like you don't.

532
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:21,240
And I think that's a great thing about FFA is once you're an alumni, and this is my experience,

533
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,420
like there's still opportunity to be involved.

534
00:30:24,420 --> 00:30:25,800
So like, can you kind of touch on that?

535
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:32,400
Like as a alumni or I feel like my fiance, once we move in together and everything, like

536
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,360
she's also I'm going to drag her into something.

537
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:41,560
So even if you weren't in FFA, like what is that that involvement look like from the alumni

538
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,480
slash adult side that doesn't necessarily work for the organization?

539
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,480
Yeah, absolutely.

540
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,360
Well, I'm actually glad you brought that up because our alumni and supporters, we recently

541
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,220
changed the name to alumni and supporters.

542
00:30:52,220 --> 00:30:56,880
And that's because if you were not an FFA member, you could still be an alumni.

543
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:02,360
For example, I was not an FFA, but I am a lifetime alumni member.

544
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,400
Basically the reason that we did that is we know so many people want to give back.

545
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,920
So sure, people can get back monetarily, but if they're in alumni and supporter groups,

546
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,320
they can also give back as mentors.

547
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,840
A lot of our alumni and supporter chapters work with their local chapters and maybe they

548
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,800
go help them to practice for their competitive events or maybe just to travel when they're

549
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,440
going to their state convention or to their state conference.

550
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,080
So there's so many opportunities for people to give back.

551
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:33,800
And that's also an opportunity also, like if you have a potential SAE for a student,

552
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:34,800
right?

553
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,200
Maybe you're like, hey, maybe it's a local veterinarian who has an opportunity for someone

554
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,200
to work in the vet office that they can be like, hey, this opportunities here.

555
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,360
Do you have any members who are interested?

556
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:51,800
So as an alumni and supporter, you can really give back and help those members really become

557
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:56,880
part of the community, help with their SAEs, help with their proficiencies.

558
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,920
And I think our members appreciate that.

559
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:04,960
I think they appreciate having that adult connection of what their life can look like

560
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,920
a little bit after, right?

561
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:12,320
And then I think the other piece too that a lot of alumni and supporters help with,

562
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,720
many of our chapters like to give back to their communities.

563
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,900
I would be remiss if I did talk a little bit about service.

564
00:32:17,900 --> 00:32:21,280
Many of our members have service projects in their community where they give back, whether

565
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,120
it's community gardens, working at pantries.

566
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,880
We also have a couple who have done dock toys for the local shelters, but you'll have those

567
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,400
alumni and supporters who will be there for them to help during those projects, right?

568
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,360
Like be there on site with those projects or encourage them of how to get involved.

569
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:43,000
So there's so many opportunities for people to get involved and play a part.

570
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:48,560
So my shameless plug, Ranger, is they can visit FFA.org backslash alumni and supporters

571
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:53,240
and see how they can get involved locally and even nationally to give back and help

572
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:54,240
those FFA members.

573
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,920
Sorry, I always try to Google things as people talk about it so that I can kind of see if

574
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,960
I see anything of interest.

575
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,280
I misspelled something, so I'll do it later.

576
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:11,200
But yeah, and I think that's the, I don't know, there's also such a cool aspect of being

577
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:18,240
able to, when I was in college, when I was in high school, I showed poultry, right?

578
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:23,080
And in college, I worked with one of the local 4-H groups, which is, I'd say it's on the

579
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,280
same parallel as FFA, but different, right?

580
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,600
And I was the poultry leader for a few years.

581
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:34,360
And I don't know, it was just so funny and cool getting to talk about chickens for hours

582
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,620
and hours a week.

583
00:33:36,620 --> 00:33:38,280
And I think that's the fun thing too, right?

584
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,440
It's like you get to kind of nerd out with the kids and you know, it's a challenge in

585
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:47,000
and of itself because you take this information that, again, like we were talking about earlier,

586
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,760
that is so common.

587
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:53,880
Like I seriously had to explain what a beak is or a comb or the crop.

588
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:59,000
And it's like, those are names that I picked up on my own after a while, but now you have

589
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:05,080
to take all that information and make it appropriate for your audience, which I think is something

590
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:11,100
that, I don't know, not that I didn't do when I was in FFA, but not as intensely as I did

591
00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:16,480
as a supporter and alumni of the organization, right?

592
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:22,720
So it's like, even then there's still so much to learn and throw yourself into essentially.

593
00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:24,240
Yeah, absolutely.

594
00:34:24,240 --> 00:34:28,080
And I think, you know, I'd be remiss if I didn't say as an alumni, I learned a lot from

595
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,600
those members too, right?

596
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,600
Yeah.

597
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,080
Like it's definitely a two-way street.

598
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,600
Yeah.

599
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:39,080
And I think that that's also, it's humbling almost, right?

600
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,080
Yes, absolutely.

601
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,400
Or it's like, wait, did this kid just teach me something and I'm supposed to be the expert?

602
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,160
It's like, how do you manage that now?

603
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,840
But yeah, I think that's so fascinating and so interesting.

604
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,840
And I guess further on, what am I trying to say with this one?

605
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:05,240
When it comes to that support and that advocacy, I guess on like the advocacy level, and I

606
00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:09,400
mean, I don't know, I feel like it's like always towing the line of being too political.

607
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,920
Like is there a way for folks that are our alumni to get involved in that aspect of it?

608
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,800
Maybe volunteer with like the other adults or is that something we leave to the professionals

609
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,880
rather than being hands-on with the kids?

610
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:21,880
You know what I mean?

611
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:22,880
Yeah.

612
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,480
I do think that's one that you have to tread really lightly on.

613
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:31,600
So I don't really know if there's a way for the adults to really get involved in that

614
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:32,600
piece.

615
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:39,880
I would say make sure to keep an ear out with your local school boards with the CTE, career

616
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:45,040
technical education, because that's what FFA falls onto is the career and technical education.

617
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,800
And so we always say, you know, make, listen and make sure that those programs aren't getting

618
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:49,800
cut.

619
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,720
That's probably the best way to advocate, advocate for your FFA chapter and for your

620
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:54,940
CTEs.

621
00:35:54,940 --> 00:35:58,880
That's the most important because when schools look up budgets, often those are the areas

622
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,200
they look at first.

623
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,360
So the best way for you to advocate is to be an advocate for agriculture education and

624
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,160
FFA and really support career technical education.

625
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,160
There we go.

626
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,600
I think that's what I was looking to ask for because yeah, I think because again, what

627
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,040
is it like with government stuff?

628
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,520
It's like the local level is what's most important because that's what directly affects you rather

629
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,800
than the crazy stuff happening on national or international, right?

630
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:21,800
Okay.

631
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,480
So I think that's, that's exactly what I was looking for.

632
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,940
So and I don't have kids or anything.

633
00:36:26,940 --> 00:36:32,080
So with that advocacy, is that something that you kind of just pay attention to in the local

634
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,080
school board site?

635
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,480
Like, do you have to be have a kid actively involved to show up to those or is it kind

636
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,040
of just, I know this is important.

637
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,320
I believe in this.

638
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,560
We should keep this in our county or district or whatever.

639
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,160
I would just say most school boards, their agendas are always public.

640
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,920
So you can always just kind of keep an eye on it.

641
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:55,240
So in its school board meetings are open to the public unless they're an executive session.

642
00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:58,940
So if there's ever an opportunity where you hear that they're thinking about taking away

643
00:36:58,940 --> 00:37:04,400
some of those CTE classes or FFA classes, just, just get involved and explain, you know,

644
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:09,720
the best way actually to stay involved is volunteer at an FFA chapter as an alumni.

645
00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:12,640
And then you'll know when those things come up and you won't have to worry about looking

646
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,520
in the local paper or try to follow.

647
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,540
So become involved with your FFA chapter and then you'll know if there's ever an issue

648
00:37:18,540 --> 00:37:21,640
that you need to talk to the school board about.

649
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:22,640
Exactly.

650
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:27,680
And, and with that, my, the veterinary science team that I started, the, it, the, what was

651
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:28,680
it?

652
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:34,120
Not the advisor, the coach, the mentor leader who the adult that knows actually what they're

653
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:40,640
talking about with it was the local veterinarian that I also interned for, for four or five

654
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,800
years and she's still involved to this day.

655
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:49,000
So whatever you do, there's, there's some kind of project that you can be involved in.

656
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,560
So yeah, absolutely.

657
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,000
But yeah, I think that's a great place to kind of end it is this is, you know, this

658
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,920
is what FFA does for students, the career technical education, you know, in the classroom

659
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:05,120
hands on, you know, working for someone, doing your own thing, doing your project, competing,

660
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:11,960
whether it's at the local state, national, whatever level, involvement for alumni and

661
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,280
supporters, whether or not you're involved or not, I feel like everybody can kind of

662
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:20,920
understand the importance of being there for students, mentoring them, teaching them these

663
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:27,080
skills and how to maintain that in schools and ensure that this kind of trend continues

664
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,600
so that we can hit a million.

665
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,280
Is there a projection for the million that you guys know of or?

666
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:37,760
Well, we are hoping, usually we know our new membership numbers in August, so we're hoping

667
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,720
come August we'll be able to make a big announcement.

668
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:43,120
Oh, how exciting.

669
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,120
Yeah, awesome.

670
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,560
Well, Chrissy, is there anything else that you feel these listeners should know about

671
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:53,120
or one last tidbit they want to walk away with or anything?

672
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,480
You know, I would say that we have great stories of our members and if they would like to see

673
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,200
some of those stories, follow us on social media at National FFA.

674
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:06,660
We're on Instagram on X and on Facebook and actually on LinkedIn, too.

675
00:39:06,660 --> 00:39:11,280
So if some people want to really kind of see some of our working with some corporate sponsors,

676
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,720
you can you can find us there.

677
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:16,480
But yeah, follow us on social and if you need a lot more information about us, just visit

678
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:17,480
FFA.org.

679
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:18,480
Perfect.

680
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,000
I think that's fantastic.

681
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,940
And as always, all the information is going to be linked down in the show notes, the direct

682
00:39:23,940 --> 00:39:29,480
for your all of your social media accounts, the website donations, et cetera, et cetera.

683
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,080
And I'll even put the alumni and supporters link in there as well because I finally found

684
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,080
it.

685
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,480
There's dashes in between the words.

686
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,080
Oh, oops.

687
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,560
But yeah, awesome.

688
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:40,960
Kristi, thank you so much.

689
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:47,040
I appreciate your time and I will talk to you guys throughout my journey and I'll probably

690
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,040
be on.

691
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,040
Wonderful.

692
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,040
Ranger, thanks so much.

693
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,040
Good luck on your journey.

694
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,040
I love following you.

695
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,000
And if you need anything else, you know where I am.

696
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,000
Perfect.

697
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Thank you.

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Thanks.

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And thank you to our listeners once again for taking time out of your day to listen

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to today's episode of the podcast.

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I personally had a great time talking to Kristi.

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I felt like I could finally nerd out about the FFA and it was really fascinating for

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me to hear the I guess the professional behind the scenes side of it because I feel like

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as a as a member and alumni, you see very much, you know, the blue jackets, the hands

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shaking, the baby kissing on that end.

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But you don't really hear a whole lot about the actual work that goes in to make all the

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magic happen.

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So if you'd like to be a part of that magic, as Kristi said, get involved with your local

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chapters, get involved with your local organizations, even if you weren't a member before, it's

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still a great way for you to get into your local community, help support members and

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high school students as they start to develop the skills that will help them in their future

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careers.

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All their information is going to be down in the show notes.

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So go ahead and feel free to check them out, their social media, their website, et cetera,

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et cetera.

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And again, a thank you to today's episode sponsor.

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Their information will be in the show notes as well.

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And if I can ask one last thing of you, it would be for you to give us a rating and review

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on whatever podcast platform you're listening to.

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Ratings and reviews go a long way in terms of helping support the mission of the podcast,

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which is to help more people help more people.

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So if you can just do that, I would very much appreciate it.

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If you've made it this far, I feel like you have something to say about the episode or

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the podcast in general.

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So if you could please do that, I'll be eternally grateful.

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If you could share today's episode, I will be sure to share your share on my social media.

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Thanks again, guys.

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And as always, have fun, stay safe and be yourself.

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We'll see you in the next one.

