1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,520 Hello everyone and welcome to the Within Range Coaching podcast. 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:13,580 I'm Ranger, certified holistic success coach, and in this podcast, I'm bringing down the 3 00:00:13,580 --> 00:00:18,200 journey that entrepreneurs face as they start their organization, find solutions to the 4 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,340 roadblocks in their way, and create an impact that lasts. 5 00:00:22,340 --> 00:00:26,880 So if you're an entrepreneur, nonprofit leader, or purpose-driven community member that wants 6 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:31,840 to learn how to grow your impact and develop yourself as the person behind the mission, 7 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,080 then this podcast is for you. 8 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:41,780 I know you're just as eager to get started as I am, so let's jump right in. 9 00:00:41,780 --> 00:00:46,680 Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening everyone, and welcome to today's episode. 10 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,760 At the time of recording, I'm just about three or so days away from crossing the state line 11 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,220 going from Georgia to Alabama on my walk across the country. 12 00:00:55,220 --> 00:00:59,160 But since coming into Georgia about a week and a half ago, I've been in contact with 13 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:04,080 a gentleman named Tom, and he's been helping me find places to stay, helping get in contact 14 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:09,340 with a few different groups like the American Legion, Veterans of Foreign Wars, and he even 15 00:01:09,340 --> 00:01:13,440 opened up his home and let me stay with him and his dog for a few nights as I was passing 16 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,040 through the Atlanta area. 17 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,120 And the very first time that Tom picked me up from the parking lot of a CVS a few miles 18 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:28,040 away from his house, I was greeted by him and a huge fluffy furry cloud in the backseat 19 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,040 of his Jeep. 20 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:35,760 He pulled up, we shook hands, and out of the back of the Jeep jumped a 130 pound great 21 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,600 Pyrenees named Normandy. 22 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,080 And just kind of watching them interact with each other, it was really just so obvious 23 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,000 that Tom and Normandy were joined at the hip. 24 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,140 Everywhere Tom walked, Normandy was just a few feet behind. 25 00:01:51,140 --> 00:01:57,120 After talking for ourselves a bit, about ourselves, I asked him how this hunk of cloud ended up 26 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:02,600 in his lap, and he told me that he and his daughter work with a local great Pyrenees 27 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,720 rescue here in the Atlanta area. 28 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:10,000 And as soon as Tom told me that and I got to experience Normandy, I knew I needed to 29 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:16,000 get someone from the rescue on the podcast as soon as possible, and the stars aligned, 30 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,680 schedules worked out, and that's just what we got today. 31 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:24,740 So we are joined by the intake director of the great Pyrenees rescue of Atlanta. 32 00:02:24,740 --> 00:02:29,200 She runs her own business called Simply Perfect Grooming and Training, and is the pack leader 33 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,640 of over 10 foster dogs. 34 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:35,520 Everyone we're joined now by Sabine Albert. 35 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,360 Sabine, thank you so much for hanging out with us today. 36 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,360 So late on a Saturday. 37 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,840 Thank you for having me. 38 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,240 Yeah, of course. 39 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,640 No, I mean, it sounds like you guys got a pretty solid rescue going on, just checking 40 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:52,400 out your website and looking at your guys' experience. 41 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,280 And I'm excited to chitter chat a little bit more. 42 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,680 I think what excites me the most about our conversation is that you guys are a breed-specific 43 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:00,680 rescue. 44 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,720 Yes, that is correct. 45 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,200 We're working with great Pyrenees only. 46 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,200 Yeah. 47 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,120 No, that's so cool. 48 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,200 I'm excited to hear more about it. 49 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:21,440 And before we get started, I do want to ask you, what is your intention for today's episode? 50 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:28,600 My intention would be to raise awareness to the crisis of all the, not our rescue only, 51 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:34,760 all the rescues, all the shelters in the South that are inundated with owner surrenders and 52 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:40,960 a lot of people turning in their dogs for different reasons. 53 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:46,800 And we're all facing that and feeling that because it's really hard if you have to turn 54 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:47,800 them away. 55 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,040 We don't have enough foster homes. 56 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:54,400 We don't have enough spots to take them in at all. 57 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,800 And that is, it's heartbreaking. 58 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,040 Yeah, no. 59 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,640 I mean, I can hear it in your voice. 60 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:02,800 I can even see it on you. 61 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:08,560 Just how, I mean, like I was telling you off camera for a bit, when I ran or helped run 62 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:14,080 the reptile rescue in the Sacramento area, we ran into the same problem. 63 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,560 Just people surrendering animals left and right. 64 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:22,280 It felt like every day we were getting at least two or three inquiries. 65 00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:30,520 But with that being said, like what are the common reasons that you see that people typically 66 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,560 surrender the animals for? 67 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,240 I mean, great parakeets are no joke, just seeing the size of them. 68 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:44,520 But what is it about the specific breed that warrants a specific shelter for them? 69 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:50,300 I think a lot of people have to give up their dogs because of the economy. 70 00:04:50,300 --> 00:04:55,440 Everything is super expensive and a lot of people are losing their homes, having to move 71 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,680 in with their parents or finding an apartment. 72 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:05,940 And it's just hard to have such a big dog hooked up in an apartment with no yard. 73 00:05:05,940 --> 00:05:07,560 So that's a big part. 74 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,120 And sometimes it's medical reasons. 75 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:16,880 A lot of them have joint issues or need surgeries, which is very expensive and people cannot 76 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:23,280 swallow that because it's really thousands of dollars for such a big dog, especially. 77 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:29,560 And we are taking in some of those dogs, whatever we can do at that point, because those need 78 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:36,400 a different kind of foster home, too, that is equipped for medical care. 79 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,600 Just a lot of the, I mean, just really socioeconomic issues, right? 80 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,360 It's the economy, it's this. 81 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:48,240 I mean, just like humans, medical bills for animals are insanely high, which I guess makes 82 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,840 sense for the most part. 83 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:55,980 But yeah, especially because for great Pyrenees, I know that for most breeds of dogs that there's 84 00:05:55,980 --> 00:05:59,920 usually like a breed specific issue that arises over time. 85 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:00,920 Yeah, definitely. 86 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:01,920 Yeah. 87 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,160 And you're saying for great Pyrenees, that's typically like the joints, legs, is that just 88 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,400 from the size of them or what causes that? 89 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,640 Yeah, it's from the size of them. 90 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:16,400 And in the past couple of years, there were more studies done that you should spay and 91 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:22,400 neuter them later because the bones need to be fully grown and matured. 92 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:28,040 So if you spay them too early when they are too young, they are not fully grown, not fully 93 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:35,360 developed and a lot of them are having hip dysplasia or ACL tears, their knees go out 94 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,000 and you need to do surgeries there. 95 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:43,200 And a couple of my own dogs have issues like that, too. 96 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,320 So it's a big expense to go through those surgeries. 97 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,240 Yeah, it sounds like it. 98 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,240 Yeesh. 99 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,280 Well, we'll get more into that. 100 00:06:51,280 --> 00:06:55,240 Let's put a pin in that for just a second about the specific characteristics of the 101 00:06:55,240 --> 00:07:00,920 breed because no, they're like I said, hanging out with Normandy for just a few days, I was 102 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,000 kind of sold on it. 103 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,040 So just how great they are generally. 104 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:10,680 So what I'm curious about is how did you get involved in all of this? 105 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:17,220 Because I know you have your because your company, the grooming and training aspects, 106 00:07:17,220 --> 00:07:20,000 that's also great Pyrenees specific, correct? 107 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,600 Yes, that's correct. 108 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:22,600 Yeah. 109 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,600 So you're you're deep in I mean, you're wearing a Great Purity shirt in the interview. 110 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,600 So you're you're deep into the breed. 111 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,280 So how what got you involved in it? 112 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,120 Like what's your background in history and how you got here? 113 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:42,640 Well, I used to live in Italy and found one great Pyrenees abandoned on the interstate. 114 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:48,680 I took him in and moved back with him to Germany, brought him over to the United States because 115 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,160 of my husband's job. 116 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:58,080 We came over here and then for the first couple of years, I was volunteering in elementary 117 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,840 school until all of our kids were through. 118 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:07,720 And then I needed a new hobby and ran into a great Pyrenees rescue and thought, OK, maybe 119 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,360 I do some fostering. 120 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:17,360 And I started with fostering dogs and fostering litters and then took over the intake position 121 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:22,280 and I've been doing that since about five years now. 122 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:28,720 And my my own pack grew and we always have a lot of foster dogs at home, too. 123 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,160 So there's always a lot of coming and going here. 124 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:32,160 Gotcha. 125 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:37,240 What I think is always so interesting hearing people talk about what got them involved in 126 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:43,520 their business, hobby, job, breeds, this and that, is how it always feels like it just 127 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:44,520 happens by accident. 128 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:51,080 But you're in the right place at the right time in Italy, of all places, and just kind 129 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,440 of fell into your lap almost. 130 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,640 Yeah, definitely. 131 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:56,680 Yeah. 132 00:08:56,680 --> 00:09:03,600 So what is it about the breed that's kind of kept you in it for so long and dedicated 133 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,160 to them specifically? 134 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,520 I'm really kind of madly in love with the with the breed. 135 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:10,680 They are just amazing to me. 136 00:09:10,680 --> 00:09:11,680 They're big dogs. 137 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:13,280 I always love big dogs. 138 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:20,400 I grew up with boxers, which are bigger dogs, but then the Great Pyrenees is putting another 139 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,080 level of big on that. 140 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:27,200 They are just wonderful, loyal dogs to me. 141 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:35,120 And even the ones that have issues, I have a special place in my heart for them, too. 142 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:40,720 And I'm taking a lot of dogs that are more challenged on the behavioral side. 143 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:46,240 That's how I became a dog trainer, too, because I really want to work with them and want to 144 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:53,040 work to help the rescue more to be able to place these dogs, too, so they have a chance 145 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,680 to find a home. 146 00:09:54,680 --> 00:09:59,800 I just really love the breed, the whole look of them and the way they're acting. 147 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,360 Just kind of everything that goes on with having a Great Pyrenees. 148 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,640 It sounds like you're just because again, I can see you, I can hear it in your voice, 149 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,320 just how connected you feel. 150 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:10,840 Yeah, I do. 151 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:16,560 And my biggest dream was always to have a pack of dogs. 152 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:19,680 And that's what happened over the last couple of years. 153 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:25,880 So I have 10 of my own and then I have three busters here right now. 154 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:26,880 Gotcha. 155 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:27,880 So how did that... 156 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:32,520 So it sounds like that was kind of, I don't know, like started by having boxers growing 157 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:33,520 up. 158 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:34,520 Is that where that would come from? 159 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:40,320 Yeah, that was the growing up with dogs from birth on basically. 160 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:46,680 I just always had a big heart for dogs and then got hooked to the Great Pyrenees when 161 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:51,280 I was in Italy and then over here when I started working with the rescue. 162 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,400 That was just how it all fell into place. 163 00:10:54,400 --> 00:11:03,000 And then in 2017, I started fostering for Great Pyrenees rescue and then Christmas time, 164 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:08,480 they send a text message out looking for somebody who can take in a pregnant mama. 165 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,080 And I thought, okay, we're not going anywhere. 166 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,120 We're not traveling. 167 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,400 And so we write it out. 168 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:19,440 And since then, I'm doing a lot of letters for the rescue, which I love doing. 169 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:24,600 It's a lot of work, but working from home and it always allows for me to slip out of 170 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:29,120 my work for a couple of minutes and taking care of the puppies, cleaning up real quick 171 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,480 and going back and forth. 172 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,320 Gotcha, how cool. 173 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:39,640 Okay, so and then to be clear, so you work full time in your business, the grooming and 174 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,840 training portion or do you have something else that you also do? 175 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,560 Well something else that I also do, I have a family of six. 176 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:46,560 Oh, okay. 177 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:47,560 So that's the other job. 178 00:11:47,560 --> 00:11:48,560 Yeah, that's the other job. 179 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:51,560 Yeah, we're just not paid very well. 180 00:11:51,560 --> 00:11:58,200 But no, I'm doing mostly rescue work and then my grooming and training business. 181 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,200 Yeah. 182 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,200 Gotcha. 183 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,800 So I definitely want to ask you more about the grooming and training business, but let's 184 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,040 just kind of stick on the rescue for just a few more minutes. 185 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,480 What's kind of the background or history of the rescue that you know of? 186 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,760 Like how did that? 187 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:18,880 I think I'm just so like infatuated and like excited about the idea of the breed specific 188 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:25,880 because a while ago I got to stay with a couple that run a exotic bird rescue or sanctuary. 189 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:30,160 I just think it's so interesting that they got so invested in that specific type of animal 190 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:37,400 so like how did the rescue come up to play and why specifically is it in Atlanta, I guess? 191 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:46,720 So the rescue was founded in 2010 and it's John Heldrick is our founder and he fell in 192 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,040 love with the breed too. 193 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:56,920 He thought he saw a big white retriever and learned that it was a great tyrannies and 194 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:02,640 he fell in love with the breed and wanted to help the breed and just founded the rescue 195 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:08,720 back then and since then we're going since 14 years now. 196 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:09,720 Wow. 197 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:10,720 Okay. 198 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:16,960 So with that being said, is it just that there's a ton of great tyrannies that need to be given 199 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:22,360 up specifically in the Atlanta, Georgia area or like where do the dogs come from? 200 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:29,000 So we are walking mostly in Georgia but we're also pulling dogs from Tennessee, Alabama, 201 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,080 some of the Carolinas. 202 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:40,400 There are a lot of farms out there that have unwanted puppies that are coming in or then 203 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:46,120 a lot of people that just really fell in love with the breed and have them as pets. 204 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:54,000 A lot of backyard breeders unfortunately and that falls into place this year especially 205 00:13:54,000 --> 00:14:00,640 because there are whole litters turned into shelters and also unfortunately whole litters 206 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:07,800 and the parents euthanized because there is no space where they could go. 207 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:15,860 So there's a lot going on here in the South and the more rural areas with dogs being bred 208 00:14:15,860 --> 00:14:23,600 or even on farms, the farms often do not even know that the female is pregnant and at some 209 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:29,680 point they find the puppies out there but also a lot of adult dogs that we're taking 210 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:30,680 in. 211 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,480 Yeah and I think that might be an important clarification to make too. 212 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:39,120 With the great tyrannies breed, why were they created essentially? 213 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:44,240 What was their, what's their job typically I guess? 214 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:49,120 With the great tyrannies there are a guarding breed. 215 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:56,600 They were used or still used mainly for sheep and goats to guard the herds out there and 216 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,760 keep predators away. 217 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:03,040 And I'm sure when you have a, what is it, what did you say, a white golden retriever 218 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,480 that is the size of a small bear? 219 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:06,480 Yeah. 220 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:12,240 I'm sure it can, it does a very good and I got to hear Normandy bark a few times. 221 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:13,240 Yeah. 222 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:18,360 I can hear how they would be very, very protective and very good at their jobs. 223 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:25,920 So okay, so it's, and again, it's really falling into that socioeconomic issue because I talked 224 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:33,160 with another general dog rescue that was in, where was it, in South Carolina, I think near 225 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:38,240 Columbia and they were saying it's a very similar thing that, I mean, again, with the 226 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,520 reptile rescue, I heard it all the time. 227 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,840 We're moving, we can't afford it. 228 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,240 That bills this and that. 229 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:49,040 I don't know if this is a weird question or not, but like what have you seen work for 230 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:55,360 folks to take into consideration either before they get their animals or after or during 231 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:56,920 to kind of prevent that? 232 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:02,560 Like have you guys seen any cases where it's worked out differently or I'm not even sure 233 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,480 what I'm really asking, but maybe you. 234 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:12,400 So the only thing that really helps, I mean, whenever we are getting owners to render applications 235 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:21,000 John is calling single one, talking to them about what's going on and how can we help? 236 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,760 And we have another trainer that is working with us who is also a behaviorist. 237 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:32,800 So all these calls are going to him mostly, and he's trying to help people if it's really 238 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:38,440 like a behavioral situation or something that can be fixed with training, he would help 239 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:46,360 over the phone and sometimes it works out, but often it's sadly when the people are contacting 240 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:53,080 us so much has happened already behavioral that they are basically at the end of the 241 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,360 rope and they're like, no, we're not even trying anymore. 242 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:03,200 Dog needs to go, which is a sad situation because sometimes they have the dog for years 243 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,920 and all of a sudden the dog gets kicked out, which is as hard on the dog. 244 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:11,820 It's hard on us too, because we need to figure out where to put them best. 245 00:17:11,820 --> 00:17:16,040 If you have a dog that is coming from a family that lived in the house for years, you don't 246 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:24,440 want to stick them into boarding, but we do not have enough foster homes that we can, 247 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,280 that we could take more. 248 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:32,480 We are really inundated with the ones that are every day we have like five, six owners 249 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:40,360 or under applications coming in and then there's a lot of dogs in all the shelters around us. 250 00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:44,000 They're neat places. 251 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,200 So this year is really extremely tough. 252 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,200 Yeah. 253 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:54,120 Is it this year specific, like the 2024 year or just the last what year and a half or so 254 00:17:54,120 --> 00:18:00,000 that's been, is it just not that you guys are getting full or is it that this year is 255 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,840 particularly bad? 256 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:07,360 So after COVID it started where people had to go, you know, everybody got a dog because 257 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:12,680 they were home and then they had to go back into the offices. 258 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:19,640 So the dog started having separation anxiety because from all the time home, all of a sudden 259 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,000 nobody was home at all. 260 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:29,920 That was how the whole thing started and we got a lot of dogs in, but then every year 261 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:36,320 since then it's getting worse and worse and now the economy is playing a role too. 262 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:45,080 So I would say this year is extremely bad because there are so many dogs that need to 263 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,920 be rehomed, that need to find a place out of the shelter. 264 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:53,840 It's in my opinion, it's the worst this year so far. 265 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,200 Yeah, no, I hear that. 266 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:02,880 I keep referencing the reptile rescue stuff, but during COVID I worked in a reptile store, 267 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,120 like a specialty pet store, I guess. 268 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:09,900 And yeah, I saw just every day selling a whole bunch of animals. 269 00:19:09,900 --> 00:19:13,960 The people that were there for a few years were saying that, wow, this is the most we've 270 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,200 ever sold. 271 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,680 This is crazy. 272 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,920 People don't typically buy animals like this. 273 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:25,440 And then once I took over the reptile rescue and I started working with them, what, around 274 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:30,100 the end of 2021, that's when we got inundated. 275 00:19:30,100 --> 00:19:34,600 So kind of what lining up with exactly what you're saying, people started going back to 276 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:39,920 work, realizing that's not what they wanted, that money plays a factor. 277 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:44,340 So it's interesting just how many parallels there are, I mean, on completely different 278 00:19:44,340 --> 00:19:51,560 sides of the country, that those events are causing kind of those same issues. 279 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:57,160 Yeah. 280 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:01,280 Hey guys, ranger of recordings past, jump it in real quick to talk to all of you coffee 281 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:02,560 and tea lovers. 282 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,600 Are you ready to brew up something amazing? 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305 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,280 The John? 306 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:42,400 Yeah, John, that John and you and the other trainer kind of helped talk them through the 307 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,840 behavior issues or how does that? 308 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,280 How does that process kind of work? 309 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:51,920 Yeah, so he would send our information and then we're getting in contact with the person 310 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:58,200 that is surrendering the dog or trying to surrender the dog and see if we can help, 311 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,120 which is more over the phone advice. 312 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:07,640 But then some people are open to basically to sign up for training sessions with another 313 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:15,000 trainer in the area, just open to work with the dog while others are set and they they 314 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,800 made their decision that the dog has to be re-homed. 315 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:23,960 Yeah, I'm I'm curious about your thoughts because I have I have a belief that getting 316 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:31,880 professional training for a dog is maybe not as necessary, but is essentially a requirement 317 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:36,560 just alongside food, general care, grooming. 318 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:41,640 Like what is your thought on the importance of getting training for dogs like from an 319 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,440 early age? 320 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:49,840 I think it's it's very important at any age, even the dogs that are in the rescue when 321 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:50,920 we adopt them out. 322 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:57,940 I always try to stress that to new adopters because it it forms a really good bond between 323 00:22:57,940 --> 00:23:00,720 the owner and the dog. 324 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,380 Trust is a big, big issue. 325 00:23:04,380 --> 00:23:10,440 So the dog comes from a shelter where it was in a in a kennel for how many days, weeks, 326 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,440 often months, and all of a sudden it's with a new family. 327 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,600 And of course, they they hear the story about the dog and they think, oh my God, we have 328 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,480 to do our very best to love the dog. 329 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,760 And they open their hearts and their homes to the dog. 330 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,080 And the dog is allowed on the couch and on the bed and everywhere. 331 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:33,320 And in a couple of weeks, we're having issues because the great tyrannies is a breed that 332 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:42,080 also at some point they they want to take over at home if you are not controlling them 333 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,360 in a way, if you're not a good leader to them. 334 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:47,240 They want to take over. 335 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:52,080 And you know, then the issues are starting when the dog growls because the husband wants 336 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:57,280 to sit on the couch or you want to send them off the bed because now you want to go to 337 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,600 sleep and they growl at you. 338 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,640 So those are those are issues that are starting later down the road. 339 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:09,160 So we are trying to educate people as good as we can. 340 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:14,480 Unfortunately, not everybody is open to it or there are a lot of people are not even 341 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:22,560 really listening because they think they had dogs before, often other breeds, and they 342 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,120 have it covered. 343 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:27,080 But great tyrannies is a is a different breed. 344 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,200 It's not a big white retriever. 345 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,440 It's not a lab. 346 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,040 They are very stubborn. 347 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,000 They're acting differently. 348 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,680 They're learning differently. 349 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,680 They are often they are very mellow. 350 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:46,140 They do not want to do much work in the sense of training. 351 00:24:46,140 --> 00:24:50,600 So you have to work on their pace. 352 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,480 If they if they're open to learn more, to work more. 353 00:24:54,480 --> 00:25:00,840 And so I definitely think training is a very important part. 354 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:01,840 Yeah. 355 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:09,600 And I I'm not sure that I've heard it put that way, that it's not necessarily training. 356 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:14,320 I guess when I think of training, it's, you know, sit, stop, roll over, come like just 357 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,880 having control over the dog. 358 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,920 But what I like about what you just said is that it's more so about building trust. 359 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,840 Yeah, there is a deep. 360 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:28,560 It's more it's deeper than just the dog will listen when I say certain things. 361 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,480 It's like trust, respect. 362 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:36,280 And I guess it's kind of like setting boundaries and showing. 363 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,160 Like in their own doggy way of understanding. 364 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,160 Yeah. 365 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:51,200 How how much do those behaviors that come in over time are related to them being herd 366 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:57,280 protectors, because it almost sounds like it's like hurting at times or I don't know, 367 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,200 like what like those natural instincts? 368 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,280 Is that what you're trying to like work with or how does that play in? 369 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,520 Yeah, definitely. 370 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,800 We have a lot of people that are calling us, even if, you know, grandkids are coming in 371 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:18,040 or if they have younger kids and the dog starts like nipping their booties and trying to push 372 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,380 them in a certain area and then they are calling and they're saying the dog is nipping the 373 00:26:22,380 --> 00:26:26,320 kids and we don't know what what to do or what is going on. 374 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:33,360 And we're telling them that the dog is basically guarding and herding the kids in a certain 375 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:36,300 area because they want to keep them safe. 376 00:26:36,300 --> 00:26:39,940 And that's something that needs to be worked with and trained. 377 00:26:39,940 --> 00:26:44,960 So the dog understands that these are the people that belong to the family. 378 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:45,960 They live in the home. 379 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:51,240 These are the ones that I'm protecting, but I do not need to to nip them. 380 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,880 They don't need to be nipped to get that get you them to go where you want them to go. 381 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:55,880 Yeah, exactly. 382 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,800 But that's just, you know, from from their instincts. 383 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,560 A lot of them are doing that. 384 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:01,560 Gotcha. 385 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,160 It's just very natural to them. 386 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,160 Yes. 387 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,160 Yeah. 388 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,120 And again, it doesn't sound like it's necessarily training those natural instincts out of them. 389 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:13,680 It's just kind of more of a redirect seeing, like, I don't know, showing them ways that 390 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,640 they can still exhibit those behaviors, just not in that way. 391 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,200 Yeah, just more like learning how to deal with it. 392 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:27,040 And that's where also trust comes in the picture. 393 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,680 Trust from the dog to the human and from the human to the dog, that they know that the 394 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:37,200 dog is not biting for whatever reason they think it would be. 395 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,200 It's really just the instincts that are coming in. 396 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,200 Gotcha. 397 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,480 OK, so that makes sense. 398 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:47,000 So again, what I also admire about that is that there's that line of communication that's 399 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:53,200 opened with you guys to help them try their best to train it without getting training 400 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,200 or the tips and tricks that you guys are willing to provide and work with. 401 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,200 Yeah. 402 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:03,280 And I know that we said earlier that you do training as well with Simply Perfect. 403 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,280 Am I saying that right? 404 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,280 Simply Perfect. 405 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,280 I saw that it's spelled a little bit different. 406 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,280 Yes, perfect with the perfect. 407 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,280 Yeah. 408 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,240 With the Y, I thought that was I thought that was clever. 409 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,920 So when did the Simply Perfect grooming and training come into play? 410 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,680 When did you start that and jump into that entrepreneurship side? 411 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,960 I started working with our medical director from the rescue. 412 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:31,560 We went to the boarding place and to the vet clinic where we have dogs boarded. 413 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,840 Just went in there and we're sitting on the floor, basically starting to clean up the 414 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:41,680 dogs because some of them, if they're coming from the shelter or previous farm dogs, they 415 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,080 are in rough shape. 416 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,600 So they needed long hours of brushing. 417 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:56,040 And then I read a lot on Facebook, a lot of posts where people were frustrated because 418 00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:01,960 they bring their dog to the groomer and they get shaved down and they pick up a naked dog. 419 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:07,440 And the attorneys, they have a double coat, which is insulating to them, keeps them warm 420 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:12,400 in winter and cool in summer, like kind of like cheap due to. 421 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,240 So I was thinking more about that. 422 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:24,320 And if I want to put that in like a daily work or if it's too much because it is basically 423 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,840 a hard job to do. 424 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,400 So at the beginning, I just offered it for a couple of people from the rescue, some friends 425 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,120 that had great attorneys. 426 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:40,380 So I took their dogs and started cleaning them up, doing grooming. 427 00:29:40,380 --> 00:29:45,680 So I had a little setup in the backyard where I started that. 428 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,680 And then more people were asking. 429 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,840 And then I went and got my license and got the business running. 430 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,480 I've been doing that since a couple of years now. 431 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:55,480 And I really love it. 432 00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,520 I love working with the dogs and tend to know some really great people. 433 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:01,520 Yeah. 434 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,040 And again, it sounds like I don't know. 435 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,800 Again, I just love the idea of how things just fall into people's lap. 436 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:09,800 Yes. 437 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,080 How you just had the opportunity. 438 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:16,180 You saw that there was a problem that, you know, and again, I'm sure that the groomers, 439 00:30:16,180 --> 00:30:18,320 they're doing their best, et cetera, et cetera. 440 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,840 But it's just like with the people that get to breed as a pet. 441 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:27,520 There's very specific considerations that you may not know about that you need an expert's 442 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,360 advice and help and assistance. 443 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,400 I think it's amazing that you're able to kind of jump in there and see that as a need and 444 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:41,080 kind of jump in and help serve those that have the great Pyrenees at home. 445 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,080 Yeah. 446 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,080 And I really enjoy doing that. 447 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:51,840 In the rescue, our whole adoption process, we have an adoption team with six adoption 448 00:30:51,840 --> 00:31:00,040 coordinators and all of them are staying in contact with the adopters after the adoption. 449 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,940 So when people are taking the dog home, they check in with them. 450 00:31:02,940 --> 00:31:03,940 How is it going? 451 00:31:03,940 --> 00:31:11,800 Like over weeks that's going and then just being there and listening and calling out 452 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,680 to us and to the trainers that we can help if there is something bigger going on, if 453 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:22,520 it's smaller issues, they can help too, because everybody has so much advice to share and 454 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,320 to help new adopters that they can find their way. 455 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:32,700 Even if it's like a first time great Pyrenees owner, there are always things coming up that 456 00:31:32,700 --> 00:31:37,900 you did not deal with before with a different breed. 457 00:31:37,900 --> 00:31:40,960 And that's very helpful too with the adoption team. 458 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:46,200 Yeah, just having a team of so many people, I mean, just the combined years of experience, 459 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,760 I'm sure is amazing. 460 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:52,440 So having like that group of experts that can give great advice that have pretty much 461 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:58,360 at this point, I'm sure seen it all with the breed, can just help out in any different 462 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,360 way. 463 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,360 Gotcha. 464 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,360 How cool. 465 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,520 Well, I don't want to keep you too much longer, but Tom did mention and you brought it up 466 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:10,680 earlier about you're kind of like the go-to for the pregnant mamas. 467 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,640 Is that how it works? 468 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,080 Or you just end up with a whole bunch of puppies? 469 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,800 Is that the best job ever? 470 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,360 Or what is that like for you? 471 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:23,040 Yeah, it is the best job ever, but it's also a lot of work. 472 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,800 Those three weeks are kind of easy because the mama dog is taking care of everything. 473 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,200 She's cleaning up after them, she's feeding them. 474 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:35,360 But then after three and a half to four weeks, you have to start supplementing food and then 475 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,840 with eating more, the mess is getting more too. 476 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:45,080 So there's a lot to clean up always and then little puppies are running and rolling in 477 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,960 their own poopies. 478 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,360 So they need lots of baths and it's a full-time job basically. 479 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:59,560 Well, good thing they're living with a professional groomer and that can help out and train that 480 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:00,560 all. 481 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:01,560 That's so interesting. 482 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,160 And because I saw, what was it? 483 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,240 I think Tom said that Normandy was around 130 pounds. 484 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,440 Is that pretty much the max size or how big? 485 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,960 How fast did they get to adult size and how big is adult size? 486 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,680 So they grow pretty quick. 487 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:25,080 So I would say around eight months of age, you have a big puppy, a really big puppy. 488 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:31,000 We always tell people that in the first year they grow in height and in the second year 489 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,840 they're filling out. 490 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:38,360 So my first great Pyrenees that I had, he was 170 pounds. 491 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:43,360 He was just really massive, huge dog. 492 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:49,840 Most of the Pyrenees that we have in the rescue are probably around 100 pounds, 120. 493 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,200 Some of the smaller ones, often females, are around 80 pounds. 494 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,280 So between 80 and 120, I would say is the most. 495 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,120 But then you find bigger ones, 140. 496 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,960 So these aren't just 10, 15 pound wiener dogs or chihuahuas. 497 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,080 These are huge. 498 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,760 Basically the weight of most some humans. 499 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:12,760 Yeah. 500 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:18,600 So yeah, no, I can only imagine the food and like you're saying, the messes that they can 501 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:23,780 make, but it sounds like they're in great care and they have someone that again is knowledgeable 502 00:34:23,780 --> 00:34:25,000 that knows what they're doing. 503 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,440 So I'm sure they appreciate that in their own doggy way. 504 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:35,000 But yeah, no, just to kind of wrap up the conversation, thank you again for hanging 505 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,320 out with us. 506 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:41,680 And sometimes we try to leave the audience with a freebie or a parting word of wisdom. 507 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:46,400 And I saw that you had a little bit of an encouragement that you wanted to share with 508 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,920 the listeners in terms of volunteering with their local shelter. 509 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:57,800 Yeah, I would just say if everybody could take an organization of their choice and volunteer 510 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:04,960 for them, it helps out big time in the community and it makes your heart happy. 511 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,120 Yep, I agree 100%. 512 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,260 You don't need to be a foster. 513 00:35:08,260 --> 00:35:10,040 You don't need to do the crazy thing. 514 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,120 Even just a few hours here and there, I'm sure would help take the load off of you guys 515 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,560 help out in any way. 516 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:22,320 And yeah, we always need transport people and just volunteers for adoption days that 517 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,040 are holding a dog. 518 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,040 You don't need to foster. 519 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,380 You don't need to do that. 520 00:35:27,380 --> 00:35:31,340 We are grateful for everybody who signs up to foster. 521 00:35:31,340 --> 00:35:33,200 Please foster, but you don't have to. 522 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,640 But it'd be great if you did. 523 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,640 I'm sure. 524 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:43,280 But yeah, I'll go ahead and if people want to learn more about the rescue or reach out 525 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:48,920 to you guys for help or adopt their own Great Pyrenees with a lot of extra research before 526 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:55,680 you do so, how would people best get in contact with you or follow you on socials or anything? 527 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:56,680 What would be the best route? 528 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:03,760 Over our website, it's greatpialanta.com or then Facebook, Instagram. 529 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,960 We are on all the platforms too. 530 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:06,960 Perfect. 531 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,080 And I see that you guys have an event coming up here pretty soon at the end of the month, 532 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,080 it looks like. 533 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,120 So I think this episode should be out by then. 534 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,640 Worst case, I'll share it on social media so that people can see it. 535 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:23,160 But yeah, all of your guys' contact information will be down in the show notes in the description 536 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,160 and yeah, follow along, check them out. 537 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:33,440 And you guys have so many animals, I was scrolling through them before the conversation and they're 538 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,760 precious, just little floofs all the way out to the big clouds. 539 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,520 But anyway, we have a lot going on now. 540 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,560 Anyway, Sabine, thank you so much for taking the time to hang out with us today. 541 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,280 Yeah, thank you. 542 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,860 Yeah, and thanks again to our listeners for hanging out with us. 543 00:36:48,860 --> 00:36:53,400 Be sure to rate and review the podcast, share it with someone that is thinking about getting 544 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:59,880 a great Pyrenees or just loves dogs and check them out once again on socials and their website. 545 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:04,200 And once again, thank you everybody so much for spending some time with Sabine and I today 546 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:09,000 and just being willing to listen and hear all about the amazing work that the Great 547 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,840 Pyrenees Rescue in Atlanta does. 548 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,440 Once again, all the info is going to be in the show notes, but I think really my biggest 549 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:24,800 takeaway from today's episode is just really knowing how everything is connected. 550 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,380 The implications from COVID of people adopting the animals to the current economic issues 551 00:37:29,380 --> 00:37:34,100 we're having in the country with inflation and everything else really impact more than 552 00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:36,000 we think it does. 553 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:41,200 So again, if you have the time, if you have the resources, please consider reaching out 554 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,480 to your local animal rescue, volunteering, supporting, donating anything that you can 555 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,120 do to really help them out. 556 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,640 And as always, please leave a rating in review for the podcast. 557 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:57,960 The more people we're able to reach, the more people we can inspire and encourage to help 558 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:04,800 those that need it most, whether it's other people, animals, the environment, whatever, 559 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:11,060 the more reach this podcast has, the more good and magic I truly believe that we can 560 00:38:11,060 --> 00:38:12,640 add to the world. 561 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:20,560 So once again, leave a rating and as always have fun, stay safe and be yourself. 562 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,960 I'll catch you guys next time. 563 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:44,000 Bye.