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Welcome back everyone to Shoujo, the anime podcast

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where I, Sarah, introduce my good friend Joe

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here to Shoujo anime. I am the expert, Joe's

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the newcomer. And we're covering the best Shoujo

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ever currently. So this is as good as gonna get.

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It's all downhill from here. But yeah, so we're

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talking episodes 37 and 38 of The Rose of Versailles.

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But before we jump into that, let's catch up.

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What's going on in Jotown? I have been engaging

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with a lot of Star Wars stuff. I listened to

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the original Timothy's on Thrawn trilogy of books.

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So that's Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rises

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and The Last Command. And I just finished that

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up, which is like a series of books that were

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meant to be like a sequel series of like the

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original, you know, four or five, six movies.

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And I had a really good time. I like. The characters

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in the original Star Wars movies, I think they're

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fun. It's fun to hang out with Luke and Lando

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and Han and all those guys and Leia. She's a

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lightsaber in this one. That's cool. So I listened

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to an audiobook and they had like all the Star

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Wars sounds and stuff in it because it's an audiobook.

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So I have done that and that was a good time.

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And because I'm, you know, I did that because

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I'm following along with a podcast, kind of like

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how our podcast works. You can follow along with

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her as a fun side with us. I've also finished

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season 3 of Star Wars Rebels, the cartoon show.

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Oh, okay. The third season. There's one last

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season. And then I've watched all of Rebels.

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New? No. No, no. It's very old. Well, it was

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a short film. Let's bring it back for a season

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three, way after original errors or something.

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No, it's... What is it from? It's from... 2014

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to 2018. OK. Old as hell. It's pretty good. You

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know, I'm liking it pretty well. It's fun. It's

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been a while since we talked about it. Yeah,

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it's because, you know, I had not been doing

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anything with it for a while. I'd set it down

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because I was really in Gundam mode, but now

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I am coasting on Gundam mode. Even though I'm

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enjoying Gundam X, I'm just watching it very

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slowly, maybe because I'm also watching like

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the podcast I listened to about one is watching

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that one and. Ghost in the Shell standalone complex

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season two or second gig. And I am not as hot

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on second gig. And so I am second gig. That's

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the season title. Second gig. Yes. The second

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sounding. It's good. Everybody loves when they

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have long names. So that's what I've been up

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to. Lots of Star Wars. But think about Star Wars

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a lot. So if I mentioned Star Wars in this, it's

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because I was thinking about it. OK, did you

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have a really great send off episode three in

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theaters? I think so. For the 20th anniversary.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, not for the 20th

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anniversary. I thought you meant real life. No,

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I first came out in theaters right now. Is it?

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I didn't know that. Yeah. Uh huh. Oh, or at least

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here here in Texas it is. Here's the thing. Yeah.

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The the. 3d animated shows the clone wars and

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rebels are kind of an attempt to rehabilitate

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the prequel movies Mmm, that makes sense And

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I think they mostly succeed at that I am like

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way more interested in the prequel stuff having

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after like watching these shows That being said,

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I don't know if I really want to watch the prequel

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movies again. They're not that good Mm -hmm.

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I mean, I guess Revenge of the Sith is the best

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one. So that's not a bad one to have to see in

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theaters. That's out of the three. That would

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be the one I'd want to see. Maybe we can cover

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that someday as a bonus episode. Just talk about

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Star Wars. I feel like I'm just going to fixate

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on the like alarming relationship between Leia

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and Anakin. Maybe Padme? Yes. Sorry. She's like

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old. You said Alea, his daughter. Oh, no. Oopsie.

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Yep, I meant Padme. Spoilers for Star Wars episode

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three and I guess five. All right. That's a six

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thing, isn't it? That's a reveal in six. Anyway,

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Star Wars is fun. I'm not worried. All of this

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is because like Andor is coming out. So I'm like

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trying to finish all of the coverage of Rebels

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because they finished it out on the podcast and

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what's the detail so they can cover Andor as

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it comes out. Andor season two. And I liked Andor

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season one, so I want to get to Andor season

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two. I got to go in order. I'll check it out.

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I feel like I keep hearing good things about

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it. It's like a Andor is like a fascinating show

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because on one hand, it's just like good prestige

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TV. And on the other hand, it's like in the Star

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Wars universe as a prequel to Rogue One, which

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is a prequel to episode four. So it's also like,

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I don't know. Like a complicated setup, but it's

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like it's weird because I can't really think

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of any other instance where like a long running

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franchise has like a prestige thing that it does

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that just kind of worked that hadn't really worked

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up to this point. And I guess people like the

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Mandalorian, but it's nothing like that. You

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know what I mean? And I keep trying to think

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of like another franchise that's like long. It'd

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be like if Jurassic Park just suddenly had like

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a prestige TV show, like an HBO show. That'd

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be nice somebody can finally do it right since

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1993. Maybe yeah It's like they get like a prequel

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where it's like Hammond like making those things

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and they're having the corporate Espionage is

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like a big part of it and like their final their

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last -ditch effort is to send the guy off in

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one You know what I mean? That's how you would

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do it. I feel like Yeah, yeah, so it's just weird

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that Star Wars gets this and I'm like that's

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weird cuz Star Wars is usually like I think the

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cartoons are good and the movies are good except

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for the newer ones Actually, all the newer ones

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are bad. I mean, I like The Last Jedi, but Jesus

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Christ, The Rise of Skywalker is so bad. They're

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such a lame name. Oh, I don't know why I'm fixating

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so much on names, but it's brutal. It's so bad.

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But yeah, so. But they got the little penguin

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looking bird things. Yeah, the little guys. The

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little freaks. They're fun. Yeah. That's what

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I've been doing. It's just all Star Wars. I'm

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just like, let's go. Let's get out there. Let's

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let's let's like I like snort a bunch of Star

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Wars real quick before I go back to Gundam. OK.

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Oh, Lord. OK, nice, nice. I take it you haven't

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been doing this as well. No, I haven't. Let's

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see. What have I been doing? You've been betraying

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me. We have a new course. Oh, I. Sorry, no, go

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ahead. Tell me like three times It's okay tell

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me what your course you don't have to do this

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You can be you can be blaze L in our playthrough

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people don't even know we're talking about right

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now. Okay bothers gate and I I think I mentioned

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it a few episodes ago I started to play through

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with someone else even though I had started play

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through with Joe at one point and we were like

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We're totally gonna do it. We even don't care

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like half or the end of episode of talking about

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our playthrough. Although the same thing happened

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where the children got mad at one of my companions.

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They didn't... I didn't get thrown in jail this

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time, but... Mole and they're trying to rat us

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out, like saying we did something to the kids,

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but the person I was playing with was able to

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talk their way out of it. Wow. Baldur's Gate

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3. Sounds like a fun game. I hope to play it

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one day. Yeah, we can We could I guess I'll never

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know if you get mine whatever I assume you just

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die. I don't even think baldergate is in the

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game As far as I know it's just a thing people

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talk about It's called Raptor Clips Oh, it's

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dinosaurs. Oh, and it's cute. So I'm excited

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for that. I'm doing trivia on Wednesday. I'm

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going to be dressed as Dr. Alan Grant, even though

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it's not a Jurassic Park. Of course, it's dinosaurs

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and that's what I've got. OK, it'll be fun. And

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let's see, I went on a second date. With someone

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yesterday. That was good. Yeah, it's been a while

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since I've like actually tried to like actually

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go out and do something with someone. I've just

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been like, oh, I'm active in that regard for

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winter. So that makes sense. You don't have to

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do things in winter. You get like a pass. That's

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the time I can do it, though. I went to I went

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to this like, I don't know, like foundation day.

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Festival thing for dripping Springs, which is

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just like it was so it's like a little tiny almost

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like a rodeo where it's all the like Crappy rides

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that like you yeah A lot of barbecue leather

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purses for sale It was so hot and we're not even

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there yet the high was like 87. It's so hot already

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I'm not gonna make it Just make all of your activities

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like swimming activities or something. You're

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like submerged. Well, it makes it even easier

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to get sunburned because then the sun reflection

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bounces off the water onto your face. Not if

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you stay under that water. Just get really into

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diving. I have scuba certified. Well, there you

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go. Just do that every day. I don't have a buddy

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to go with. I can't go alone or I'll die. Hey,

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you know, maybe this is your chance. This is

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how you can meet the one. The one but I'm not

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that I haven't scuba dived in probably five years

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and Was perfect. I would be a bad buddy for someone

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else. You could show up and be like, oh If only

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as a strong hand would show me how to scuba dive.

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I haven't done it in five lonely years You reach

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around and adjust your goggles really affectionately

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or something. I don't know how you make that

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sexy, but it's probably possible. Cricut, what

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are you doing? Don't chew on that pencil. This

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could happen. You can manifest this. I don't

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know about that. I've been playing more Stardew.

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And yeah. Let's see. I think I might, for real,

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like, Joe, I could, I'll just move to Columbus

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in September or something. How does that sound?

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Yeah, do it. You can show up right when it gets

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cold. I think I can. I think I actually can now.

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Oh. So maybe I should come back and visit. Yeah,

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you should. The cheap places. That you're too

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good to live in. Yeah, I live in the most expensive

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place you could ever possibly live in. The cheapest,

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and you live in the most expensive. All of my

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friends constantly tell me this. I want to live

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by that cute little book store, but that's like,

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quaintest part of town, so I bet that's expensive.

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Yeah. Those are like million dollar houses. Bam.

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I don't think that's in the budget. There's other

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places though. There's plenty of places. That

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would be fun, right? That would be fun. Yeah,

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no, that'd be good. We could start recording

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in person. Yeah. We'll, again. And then we won't,

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we won't actually interrupt each other. We would

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still record over Discord. I don't know why we're

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saying this. I don't, even if we lived in the

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same place, we'd probably still do it online.

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No, yeah. What if there's like a fancy, I feel

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like there should be a company that has like

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audio booths that you can just rent out like

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you do at - There might be. At like recording

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studios. What's that place? Yeah, that sounds

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so official though. It probably is. Like the

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audio version of WeWork or something, you know,

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where you just show up for a few hours and then

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you're out there. That might be. I wouldn't be

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surprised by that. I mean, you know, we should

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probably like make any amount of money to start

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doing that would be good. But, you know, it could

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be in the cards. That's right. You heard the

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man. Yeah. Think technically in our link tree.

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There's a I feel like I have a donation set up

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somewhere. I don't know Okay, well better visibility

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We're just gonna use it to do a bunch of Like

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like what is it money laundering? That's we're

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gonna use it for increase that listener base,

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you know? I don't want to, I don't want to, I

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don't want to spoil the analytics, but the Rose

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of Versailles is not the most, the most popular

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show of all time. Dang. No. We got to make it.

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No, this is what it is. We got to dress up super

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crazy and then people ask us, what are you? And

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then we say, we're the hosts, the shojo at a

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convention or something. Oh, see, I feel like.

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We gotta, what we gotta do is that we get, we

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gotta just cover every other popular thing. No,

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no, no. I think we're good. I think we need to

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cover every popular thing that has like a fandom

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that exists. And then we all point them to this

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show and being like, you know, it was so much

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better when Joe and Sarah talked about it. When,

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when Rosa Versailles did this thing, y 'all should

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watch the show from 1979. Yeah. Yeah. Well. We'll

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see. Maybe we're having a Shojo Renaissance.

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I just saw they announced a sequel series to

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a manga that I was collecting probably in like

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2007. So Beauty Pop is having a sequel come out.

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So maybe we're starting. And I think there's

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a new Shojo that I feel like is good that I've

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heard something. Anyway, so maybe maybe. This

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will be a good second half of the year for Shojo.

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Yeah. Well, hey, if there is, that's good, because

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that means we got in early enough to be in it,

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you know. That's right. We're established. Uh

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-huh. We sure have been doing it. We got we got

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experience now, you know. Uh -huh. What have

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we learned just up to this point? We learned

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so we end every episode with what we learned.

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We've learned so many things. You just make like

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a big montage of everything we've ever learned.

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We learn things at the end of every episode lots

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about how to like not assassinate people from

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San just we learned several things about that

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I don't remember what we learned from school.

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We learned some stuff from skip beat probably

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by some fashion tips don't date don't be romantically

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interested in a 16 year old. Yeah, that's true.

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Mm -hmm. I Stand by that one. That's a big takeaway.

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It's a big thing Well, I guess we could get into

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the Rose of Versailles. Get into the show. And

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see what we're going to learn from the second

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to last episode of our coverage of the show.

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That's right. The penultimate episode of coverage,

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which is we covered two episodes and you may

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be saying, oh, this will probably be a short

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podcast episode. I don't know. A lot of things

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happen in these two episodes. It's crazy. So

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let's get into it. The Rose of Versailles episode

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37 is called On the Night of Their Passionate

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Vows. That says it all, honestly. You don't even

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need to watch the episode. That's the summary.

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There's some passionate vows and nothing else

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happens at all. Don't worry about it. Oh, goodness.

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All right. We open on Andre recapping the events

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of last episode in his journal. Things have gotten

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bad and it seems like the revolution is here.

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Andre rushes to watch the final moments of this

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era. He's like I'm gonna watch it with my good

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eye I'm definitely gonna make it all the way

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to the end He says as the OP plays we return

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on Oscar visiting the doctor late at night He

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diagnoses her with consumption aka tuberculosis.

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Good job, Sarah called it I did, yeah, I did.

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Everybody dies of that lung disease, getting

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consumed. Oscar is like, how long do I have,

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doctor? And the doctor insists that if she takes

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it easy, maybe like out in the countryside, don't

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you guys own a villa by the sea or something?

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You should go there. She could recover. It's

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possible, he insists. But Oscar's like, no, if

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I'm going to die, I'm going out the way I want

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to. And the doctor tells her that she has maybe

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three months to live. Oscar goes to leave. Big

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news. Yeah. It means we're not going to get she's

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not going to live to Marie getting her head cut

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off because that's in three years. That's a bummer.

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I know. Dang. Well, I guess she'd probably rather

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it be that way. But maybe. I mean, she could.

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You know, this is just this is just a diagnosis.

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Anything could happen. Maybe she goes to the

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countryside and just chills. Is that what happens

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in this episode? Who knows? I don't think so.

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No. Oscar goes to leave, but the doctor asks

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her how Andre is. And Oscar's like, Andre, what's

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wrong with him? And the doctor's like, oh, this

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is a HIPAA violation. If HIPAA was around back

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then. Oh, patient information. Yeah, the doctor

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tells her that he is going blind. I mean, Andre

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is going blind. The doctor's fine. We learned

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that in the city, bakers are selling weapons

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instead of bread. So that's how it's going in

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Paris. Yeah, where'd they get that? People still

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need bread. God. Yeah, I don't know. It's more

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expensive to acquire weapons than bread. Probably.

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Well, you know, who knows? Bread goes bad. You

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know, bread is temporary. Weapons are forever,

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I guess. If you toast it, then it's like it was

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going to be crunchy anyways. That's you know,

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that's true. Yeah. Oscar gets ready to go to

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work, and Granny reminds her that the painter

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is supposed to come by and finish the painting

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today. And then she heads out. At the barracks,

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the men discuss how Company A was dispatched

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and prepped for battle against the rioters. They're

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like, dang, I sure hope that doesn't happen to

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us. Who knows what we would do in that situation.

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Oscar arrives at the barracks, and everything

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is quiet. Her Lieutenant Colonel Dogust tells

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her that Company A was dispatched. but no fighting

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is broken out Oscar asks if he thinks company

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B will be dispatched and August says probably

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give me one second sorry if my audio was weird

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I like closed my doors and that created a weird

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echo so if I sounded weird for the last 23 minutes

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don't worry about it it's normal for there to

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be some kind of we've only been doing this for

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a year on brand surely I would I would remember

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to open the doors uh let's see Before leaving

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it Douglas turns and says hey commander you look

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pale and worn out Maybe you should take some

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sick leave and Oscar's like no, man. I'm fine

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I'm definitely not dying but the lieutenant er,

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but the Colonel says that his wife died last

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year of consumption So he knows what the symptoms

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looks like he's known Oscar's been sick with

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this for a while. He could have diagnosed her

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He tears up and Oscar thanks him and decides

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that she is gonna go home for the day. Why why

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not take a break? I thought that was nice. Yeah,

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that was a really sweet moment. Yeah, poor guy.

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We haven't really seen that guy much, but he

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gets two nice moments in this episode. Yeah.

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Well, I guess he's the only one who didn't give

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her a hard time when she came on board. That's

00:21:06.140 --> 00:21:08.000
true. Because I guess he's a fellow noble, so.

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He is also a noble, yeah. He's like old. He's

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like an old man. He's got a mustache. White hair.

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Typical noble. Typical noble. Oscar summons Andre

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whose vision is failing rapidly He comes into

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her office and gives his report to an empty chair

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because he can't see that Oscar isn't there in

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the office and instead she's standing in his

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blind spot He's seen realizes that he's not or

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that she's not there and then leaves and Oscar

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is left to mourn for Andre's eyes She's like

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he really is going blind. He just talked to this

00:21:43.339 --> 00:21:48.150
chair for like a whole minute Yeah, that's embarrassing.

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Pretty bad. She meets him outside and apologizes

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for not being in her office. She tells him to

00:21:53.390 --> 00:21:55.470
accompany her home, and he's like, but aren't

00:21:55.470 --> 00:21:58.069
we on standby? But then she takes his hand and

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says that she needs an escort and she wants it

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to be him. Being direct now. In the streets,

00:22:07.900 --> 00:22:10.980
crowds are gathering. The pirate man says, see,

00:22:11.079 --> 00:22:13.759
the tri -colored flag, that's the flag of freedom.

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And the crowd starts to break into storehouses

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and manors all over Paris. He must be, like,

00:22:21.019 --> 00:22:23.759
a local celebrity. Someone helps him walk, too.

00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:26.799
Yeah. I bet everyone's like, oh, we love Uncle

00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:31.380
Pirate. That's true. He's the best. He just pumps

00:22:31.380 --> 00:22:35.059
out the tunes, you know? Ha ha, yeah. Back at

00:22:35.059 --> 00:22:37.599
the Jarjays, Oscar is getting her painting finished.

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The only thing left to paint is her stunning

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blue eyes. The painting is finished, and we get

00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:44.700
a look at the full thing. It's an enormous painting

00:22:44.700 --> 00:22:47.240
of Oscar on a horse dressed as Mars, the god

00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:50.920
of war. General Jarjays and Granny look at it,

00:22:50.960 --> 00:22:53.099
while Andre, who's unable to see anything at

00:22:53.099 --> 00:22:55.380
the moment, waits by the door. That's a good

00:22:55.380 --> 00:22:57.819
portrait. It's a big portrait. That thing was

00:22:57.819 --> 00:23:00.799
way bigger than I thought it was gonna be. Well...

00:23:00.859 --> 00:23:03.259
The bigger the better, I guess. That's true.

00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:05.900
You want it to be big. Later, Andre stares at

00:23:05.900 --> 00:23:07.980
the painting, trying to make it out, while Oscar

00:23:07.980 --> 00:23:11.140
behind him drinks wine. Andre starts describing

00:23:11.140 --> 00:23:14.220
what he thinks he sees, but it's all wrong. Oscar

00:23:14.220 --> 00:23:16.359
tears up knowing that Andre will never be able

00:23:16.359 --> 00:23:19.220
to see the painting as it truly is. But Andre

00:23:19.220 --> 00:23:21.720
continues to describe a painting that he sees

00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:24.019
in his mind of Oscar in a rose field wearing

00:23:24.019 --> 00:23:26.920
a laurel wreath. We get a shot of Andre's imaginary

00:23:26.920 --> 00:23:29.079
painting and Oscar says that it's fantastic.

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She's like, thank you for imagining this painting.

00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:35.740
So embarrassing. This is sweet. You think it's

00:23:35.740 --> 00:23:39.519
embarrassing? No. I'm so embarrassed for Andre.

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Which painting did you like more? Did you like

00:23:41.900 --> 00:23:44.859
Andre's imaginary painting? No. Where, like,

00:23:44.900 --> 00:23:49.180
Oscar is not the deliverer of death? I know,

00:23:49.180 --> 00:23:52.980
but that one had a much better composition. This

00:23:52.980 --> 00:23:54.900
one was just, like, random things hanging out

00:23:54.900 --> 00:23:58.480
on a painting together, but not looking an interesting

00:23:58.480 --> 00:24:00.740
way. That's true. Yeah, I do like that Andre

00:24:00.740 --> 00:24:04.079
imagines Oscar as being gentler than the God

00:24:04.079 --> 00:24:07.460
of War. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's the image

00:24:07.460 --> 00:24:10.680
Oscar probably wants to be remembered as. Her

00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:14.880
legacy. Which one? Is the the God of War one.

00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:18.160
Oh, you think so? So it's just kind of like the

00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:20.400
whole vibe is what she's been, you know, trying

00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:23.819
to put off, give up to people. So maybe I'll

00:24:23.819 --> 00:24:27.680
have more to say about that later. Alain and

00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:30.519
some men come ride to the Jargeys and tell Oscar

00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:32.880
that tomorrow Company B is ordered to be dispatched

00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:35.200
to Paris. Oscar's like, oh, they finally done

00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:37.480
it, I guess, and Alain says, yup, they sure have.

00:24:37.980 --> 00:24:39.779
Oscar says she'll return to the barracks in a

00:24:39.779 --> 00:24:41.640
little while, so don't wait up, and they leave.

00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:44.700
In the stables, André prepares his horse, or

00:24:44.700 --> 00:24:47.240
both of their horses, and then he sees someone's

00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:49.319
behind him, but can't make out who it is. At

00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:50.900
first, he thinks it's Oscar, but then it's revealed

00:24:50.900 --> 00:24:53.319
that it's actually General Jargeys. The general

00:24:53.319 --> 00:24:55.900
tells André, that it seems like some battle will

00:24:55.900 --> 00:24:57.960
break out soon and it might be the last time

00:24:57.960 --> 00:25:00.000
they ever see each other. Because listen, man,

00:25:00.019 --> 00:25:01.819
you're blind and you're definitely going to die

00:25:01.819 --> 00:25:03.700
in this battle. I have no faith that you're going

00:25:03.700 --> 00:25:07.880
to live through this, Andre, I'm sorry. The general

00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:10.900
says, yeah, but then the general says that if

00:25:10.900 --> 00:25:13.519
Andre had been a noble, he would have given his

00:25:13.519 --> 00:25:17.980
wholehearted blessing to marry Oscar. Oscar walks

00:25:17.980 --> 00:25:20.579
up and sees the general tell Andre to come back

00:25:20.579 --> 00:25:24.069
safe. So that's sweet. Closure. Yeah, who's gonna

00:25:24.069 --> 00:25:27.150
take care of your horses if he's gone? It's true.

00:25:27.390 --> 00:25:33.430
Yeah Toast too Nobody's making it out of this

00:25:33.430 --> 00:25:36.769
That's you know good good bet Oscar and Andre

00:25:36.769 --> 00:25:39.029
right out on the road They run into some riders

00:25:39.029 --> 00:25:42.109
who see them in turn to attack them Oscar and

00:25:42.109 --> 00:25:44.170
Andre escape by riding their horses across a

00:25:44.170 --> 00:25:46.900
nearby river The writers throw things at them

00:25:46.900 --> 00:25:48.980
as they wait across and Andre is struck in the

00:25:48.980 --> 00:25:52.160
head knocking him out Oscar pulls them all to

00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:54.319
the other side and they get away We cut to writers

00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:55.980
in the forest declaring that they've had it.

00:25:56.099 --> 00:25:58.079
Even if it means death, they're gonna take the

00:25:58.079 --> 00:26:00.759
city Oscar sees this and decides that they're

00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:03.519
gonna go a different way into Paris. We're not

00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:07.480
gonna go this way They ride off through the woods

00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:09.940
and Oscar scolds Andre for not telling her about

00:26:09.940 --> 00:26:12.799
his eye She says that he'll have to go back to

00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:15.519
the manor, he can't go into battle in his condition.

00:26:16.059 --> 00:26:18.339
So please do this Andre, I can't let anything

00:26:18.339 --> 00:26:21.799
happen to you, she says. But Andre says no, he

00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:25.259
wants to be by her side, now and forever. Oscar

00:26:25.259 --> 00:26:28.220
lowers her eyes and says, but Andre... I knew

00:26:28.220 --> 00:26:30.140
how you felt about me, but I fell in love with

00:26:30.140 --> 00:26:32.339
first in any way. How could you really love me

00:26:32.339 --> 00:26:34.940
after that? And Andre says that he loves everything

00:26:34.940 --> 00:26:38.000
about her. Oscar says she loves him, too. And

00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:40.700
Andre says he's known that since the beginning.

00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:44.519
And then the two of them kiss. And she says,

00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:48.359
like, I don't know. Like, I've loved you since

00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:50.640
before I was born or something. He's like, I

00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:56.089
know that. Like, this is weird. OK, but. It's

00:26:56.089 --> 00:27:01.470
crazy. Stop going down here. Among the Fireflies,

00:27:01.630 --> 00:27:04.170
the two of them make love, thus becoming husband

00:27:04.170 --> 00:27:11.470
and wife. I don't think that is how it works

00:27:11.470 --> 00:27:14.109
legally, but. Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. They have

00:27:14.109 --> 00:27:16.549
to ask the king for permission for nobles to

00:27:16.549 --> 00:27:19.769
get married. They should get on that. That's

00:27:19.769 --> 00:27:25.640
not going to stop them. Later that night. Yeah

00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:28.299
later that night general charges looks at the

00:27:28.299 --> 00:27:30.200
portrait of Oscar He comments that he didn't

00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:32.000
get a chance to say bye to her after she left

00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:35.640
But like whatever like she's not gonna die in

00:27:35.640 --> 00:27:38.940
combat the way Andre is it'll be fine Granny

00:27:38.940 --> 00:27:41.539
shows up with a letter from Oscar He tells her

00:27:41.539 --> 00:27:44.019
to read it to him and she's shocked by the contents

00:27:44.019 --> 00:27:47.019
only a single sentence saying quote Thank you

00:27:47.019 --> 00:27:48.980
for all the love and devotion you have bestowed

00:27:48.980 --> 00:27:51.740
on a daughter like me unquote the general is

00:27:51.740 --> 00:27:54.670
like What is she saying? This sounds like a goodbye.

00:27:55.170 --> 00:27:58.250
No, I won't allow it. I won't. And then we cut

00:27:58.250 --> 00:28:02.109
away. So I guess that's the end of that. They've

00:28:02.109 --> 00:28:04.869
eloped just like they said they would. Daughter,

00:28:04.990 --> 00:28:08.710
an afterthought. Oh, yeah. Maybe I should say

00:28:08.710 --> 00:28:11.490
bye to her, too. It's like, oh, I forgot to say

00:28:11.490 --> 00:28:13.809
bye to Oscar. I mean, like, she's not going to

00:28:13.809 --> 00:28:16.710
die. She's the god of war. So it's fine. We see

00:28:16.710 --> 00:28:18.569
Oscar and Andre riding off to the barracks as

00:28:18.569 --> 00:28:23.710
we cut to credits. Bow chicka wow wow this is

00:28:23.710 --> 00:28:28.289
pretty normal episode all happened in one episode

00:28:28.289 --> 00:28:32.109
We got it yay, we weren't sure if we were gonna

00:28:32.109 --> 00:28:36.569
get closure or Addressment relationship, and

00:28:36.569 --> 00:28:41.829
we did yay Yeah, how do we how do we feel about

00:28:41.829 --> 00:28:44.890
it? I hate that they're now calling I hate that

00:28:44.890 --> 00:28:48.539
she's now referring to herself as his wife. I

00:28:48.539 --> 00:28:52.339
don't have more to say. That's fun. No, it's

00:28:52.339 --> 00:28:55.200
not. That's not who she is. Well, she doesn't

00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:58.140
like an extremely goofy way next episode and

00:28:58.140 --> 00:28:59.519
everyone's like, listen, you don't need to keep

00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:02.220
doing this. We will talk about it. Very funny.

00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:10.299
Like, duh. Whatever. At least they both got to

00:29:10.299 --> 00:29:16.299
get it on before it's all done. Yeah. Uh, so

00:29:16.299 --> 00:29:18.279
I guess like jumping back to the beginning, uh,

00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:20.960
we're confirming that she's gonna die, basically,

00:29:21.380 --> 00:29:24.779
right? And that Andre is gonna go blind, and

00:29:24.779 --> 00:29:26.380
he's going into battle, so he's probably also

00:29:26.380 --> 00:29:31.279
gonna die. Yeah. So, like, just, neither one

00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:33.400
will have to live without the other. Yeah, so

00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:36.039
we know that they're both gonna die here. Um,

00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:37.880
which, like, is interesting. Because they're

00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:41.900
fictional. Why? Bummer ass end to show? Yeah,

00:29:41.900 --> 00:29:43.829
well... Guess I'll have a little bit more to

00:29:43.829 --> 00:29:45.349
say I can have like an overall thing to say at

00:29:45.349 --> 00:29:46.589
the end there But it's interesting that they

00:29:46.589 --> 00:29:49.089
like kind of tell us this right It's not like

00:29:49.089 --> 00:29:51.690
there's no real question if Oscar's gonna make

00:29:51.690 --> 00:29:54.269
it out I mean, I guess she still technically

00:29:54.269 --> 00:29:56.309
could but they wouldn't do this if she would

00:29:56.309 --> 00:29:59.630
right? Yeah, I don't think so. So it's interesting

00:29:59.630 --> 00:30:01.349
that they sign post that so early on in this

00:30:01.349 --> 00:30:06.710
episode Then we have we're gonna get dispatched

00:30:06.710 --> 00:30:11.880
the August is like in Sad. That Oscar's gonna

00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.619
die. Let's see. The painting, I like Andre's

00:30:15.619 --> 00:30:17.519
version better. I think Andre understands Oscar

00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:20.059
better. I feel like Oscar being the God of War

00:30:20.059 --> 00:30:23.079
is how everybody wanted to see her and not necessarily

00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:25.059
how she wanted everybody to see her. You know

00:30:25.059 --> 00:30:27.420
what I mean? Yeah. People project on Oscar a

00:30:27.420 --> 00:30:32.519
lot. Yeah, that's true. Well, she didn't allow

00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:36.160
people to really know anything else, so they

00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:39.369
can't but help. Like, you know, envision that

00:30:39.369 --> 00:30:43.230
as her. Also, her reaction was kind of muted.

00:30:43.569 --> 00:30:47.490
Really? What? To her, the painting she got? Yeah.

00:30:47.809 --> 00:30:49.849
Well, don't you think she just got the painting,

00:30:49.990 --> 00:30:51.650
which she had been refusing up to this point?

00:30:51.710 --> 00:30:53.589
Because she knows she's going to die. That's

00:30:53.589 --> 00:30:58.329
true. No, I like I like the painters better.

00:30:58.549 --> 00:31:02.309
Yeah, I do like. He's like, if you don't want

00:31:02.309 --> 00:31:04.930
it, I'll take it home. Yeah, that's pretty funny.

00:31:05.130 --> 00:31:07.980
The painting. Yeah. I do like how in Andre's

00:31:07.980 --> 00:31:10.140
imaginary painting, the horse is still there,

00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:12.720
but Oscar just isn't riding it. It's like Oscar

00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:14.960
in the background is the horse and then there's

00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:18.180
a bunch of roses. It's very funny. Yeah, no,

00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:20.960
I just think because I took art history, but

00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:24.539
I'm like, no, it doesn't work. That doesn't follow

00:31:24.539 --> 00:31:27.240
the golden ratio at all. I can't draw that little

00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:32.660
little curl on that thing. Yeah, yeah. And then

00:31:32.660 --> 00:31:35.640
they get together. Yeah, I mean, we get like.

00:31:35.690 --> 00:31:38.750
Oscar's hair conveniently gets extra long so

00:31:38.750 --> 00:31:41.329
it can hide her butt when they're showing them

00:31:41.329 --> 00:31:44.730
embracing. That's right. Nude. It's important

00:31:44.730 --> 00:31:47.750
sense of shit. And then and then the like fancy

00:31:47.750 --> 00:31:52.730
our heads are just, you know, in the ether next

00:31:52.730 --> 00:31:55.289
to each other with their long eyelashes closed.

00:31:55.809 --> 00:31:57.890
And yeah, similar to how we got with Ferguson

00:31:57.890 --> 00:32:00.789
and Marie previously. Oh, that's true. Well,

00:32:00.829 --> 00:32:03.890
I don't think we got as clear of a like, oh,

00:32:03.890 --> 00:32:06.289
they definitely went for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:32:06.470 --> 00:32:09.549
But not definitely go for it all the way. Yeah.

00:32:09.829 --> 00:32:12.869
Oh, it's that time. Well, they're both like almost

00:32:12.869 --> 00:32:16.190
40, I guess. Yeah, they're like late 30s. Mm

00:32:16.190 --> 00:32:19.269
hmm. Yeah. How do we feel about the well, the

00:32:19.269 --> 00:32:22.269
part? OK, so I really like the scene where the

00:32:22.269 --> 00:32:24.650
general like gives Andre his blessing kind of

00:32:24.650 --> 00:32:26.289
in a way or like, yeah, it's like basically saying

00:32:26.289 --> 00:32:29.660
he would have. Because that is the most like,

00:32:29.980 --> 00:32:33.319
oh, like if we didn't have this social structure,

00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:36.019
y 'all could have just gotten together whenever.

00:32:36.259 --> 00:32:38.700
But because we live in a world with nobles and

00:32:38.700 --> 00:32:42.079
commoners, we just had to pretend like none of

00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:45.019
this was happening for forever. And that's that's

00:32:45.019 --> 00:32:47.900
interesting. And then and then like when they

00:32:47.900 --> 00:32:50.440
do the confession thing on her, Oscar is all

00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:53.359
like, I don't know, ashamed, embarrassed that

00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:55.619
she was in love with Furson, even though she

00:32:55.619 --> 00:32:59.109
knew that Andre liked her. Yeah, well cuz now

00:32:59.109 --> 00:33:02.930
it's like she's changed her mind. Yeah Maybe

00:33:02.930 --> 00:33:08.190
or she doesn't think he'd believe her maybe But

00:33:08.190 --> 00:33:11.569
I mean we only found out like a couple episodes

00:33:11.569 --> 00:33:17.089
ago, so She's probably still processing it you

00:33:17.089 --> 00:33:18.910
think she was gonna put the moose on him no matter

00:33:18.910 --> 00:33:24.549
what or it was just because I Think she's dying

00:33:25.859 --> 00:33:28.859
Well, yes, I think it's cuz they're like I think

00:33:28.859 --> 00:33:31.119
they're both the end is near for both of them

00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:33.039
in terms of they're both dying and also the end

00:33:33.039 --> 00:33:37.200
is near in terms of like tomorrow Yeah, they're

00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:39.240
gonna have bad days ahead even if they weren't

00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:41.539
dying, you know what I mean? It's like they this

00:33:41.539 --> 00:33:46.740
is the I mean Or they will die from combat. So

00:33:46.740 --> 00:33:51.890
yeah. Yeah, so I Let's do it. Yeah We'll have

00:33:51.890 --> 00:33:55.089
a whole thing at the end of this. Episode 38

00:33:55.089 --> 00:33:57.269
of The Rose of Versailles is called At Fate's

00:33:57.269 --> 00:33:59.329
Door. We open on a recap of the last episode

00:33:59.329 --> 00:34:01.609
where Oscar and Andre got together and now they're

00:34:01.609 --> 00:34:03.630
riding off to the barracks. The narrator tells

00:34:03.630 --> 00:34:08.090
us that this is the morning of July 13th, 1789,

00:34:08.090 --> 00:34:12.869
and it will be Andre's final day. Oh, he's dying.

00:34:12.969 --> 00:34:14.909
Once again, just telling you what's going to

00:34:14.909 --> 00:34:17.530
happen. Yeah. Good stuff. I love it when shows

00:34:17.530 --> 00:34:21.230
do this. Yeah Oscar and Andre show up at the

00:34:21.230 --> 00:34:23.429
barracks. She tells the men that their orders

00:34:23.429 --> 00:34:25.630
are to deploy which is awkward because like,

00:34:25.769 --> 00:34:28.289
you know We're gonna be fighting the crowd and

00:34:28.289 --> 00:34:30.289
you guys probably have family and friends in

00:34:30.289 --> 00:34:32.750
the crowd So obviously I'm not gonna like order

00:34:32.750 --> 00:34:35.539
you to shoot them Uh, because if I did, you probably

00:34:35.539 --> 00:34:37.860
wouldn't anyway. Anyway, here's what I'm going

00:34:37.860 --> 00:34:40.380
to do. I'm going to resign my command and follow

00:34:40.380 --> 00:34:43.460
my husband's lead. Oh, right. I'm married to

00:34:43.460 --> 00:34:46.239
Andre now. I guess this is big news. Whatever.

00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:49.019
Anyway, Andre, my husband, what do you want to

00:34:49.019 --> 00:34:52.420
do? And Alon is like, Alon just laughs and is

00:34:52.420 --> 00:34:54.079
like, all right, Oscar, you don't need to quit.

00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:56.460
Uh, listen, we, the guys have been talking. We

00:34:56.460 --> 00:34:59.610
decided to defect immediately. So if shooting

00:34:59.610 --> 00:35:01.909
breaks out, we're going to like join the side

00:35:01.909 --> 00:35:04.690
of the people. And like we all want you in charge

00:35:04.690 --> 00:35:06.789
if that happens. So like if you're on board,

00:35:07.170 --> 00:35:09.190
that's great. You could just be our commander

00:35:09.190 --> 00:35:11.550
still. And Andre is like, that's great. We should

00:35:11.550 --> 00:35:14.489
do that. And Oscar retakes command. And everybody

00:35:14.489 --> 00:35:17.710
does like a Captain My Captain bit and Alon congratulates

00:35:17.710 --> 00:35:21.269
them on their marriage. Oh, this is why I hate

00:35:21.269 --> 00:35:23.070
that. I'm going to take my I'm going to follow

00:35:23.070 --> 00:35:25.969
my husband's lead. Let me now just immediately

00:35:25.969 --> 00:35:30.489
take on a like subservient role. The gender essentialism

00:35:30.489 --> 00:35:35.150
is here. I mean, the thing I do like is that

00:35:35.150 --> 00:35:37.610
this is something that Oscar feels like she needs

00:35:37.610 --> 00:35:40.429
to do, but then everybody's like, no, you don't

00:35:40.429 --> 00:35:42.869
need to do that. None of us think that's a good

00:35:42.869 --> 00:35:45.630
idea, including Audrey, who thinks it's a bad

00:35:45.630 --> 00:35:49.590
idea. Oh, God, I just hate. Oh, we're husband

00:35:49.590 --> 00:35:53.559
and wife? Well, let me live. No, like I don't

00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:56.880
like it Oscar for as rebellious Oscar is she

00:35:56.880 --> 00:36:00.019
does always kind of give deference to like higher

00:36:00.019 --> 00:36:03.699
Structural orders and things like that until

00:36:03.699 --> 00:36:05.920
somebody like gives her permission not to you

00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:08.139
know what I mean? Like she is not the person

00:36:08.139 --> 00:36:10.880
who's going to break etiquette Unless there's

00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:12.960
a reason and then she will like accept the punishment

00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:15.019
for it You know what I mean, and that that feels

00:36:15.019 --> 00:36:16.360
like what's happening here. It's like well She

00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:18.719
can't just be the wife and decide to do something

00:36:18.969 --> 00:36:20.610
She has to get, like, permission, even though

00:36:20.610 --> 00:36:23.090
everybody's like, that's stupid. You don't need

00:36:23.090 --> 00:36:26.309
to do that. None of us like it when you do that.

00:36:27.750 --> 00:36:34.070
Yeah. Ugh. Ah, continue. We then all turn our

00:36:34.070 --> 00:36:36.989
attention to General Douglas, who's just watching

00:36:36.989 --> 00:36:39.690
this from the doorway. He's a noble and isn't

00:36:39.690 --> 00:36:41.550
going to defect like the rest of them. And Oscar's

00:36:41.550 --> 00:36:44.269
like, so what are you going to do? And Douglas

00:36:44.269 --> 00:36:46.610
says that, well, I guess he technically is going

00:36:46.610 --> 00:36:49.239
to have to report this mutiny to command. But,

00:36:49.340 --> 00:36:51.739
you know, I was planning on taking the rest of

00:36:51.739 --> 00:36:53.880
the day off, so I guess I'll just have to report

00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:57.119
the mutiny tomorrow. And then he leaves and Alanna's

00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:00.760
like, thanks, Doggist, you're a real, you're

00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:03.519
a real homie. And he leaves. So that's cute.

00:37:03.780 --> 00:37:06.860
I like, I like Doggist. He's not selling his

00:37:06.860 --> 00:37:09.000
friends out, not joining them, but not selling

00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:11.820
them out. I wonder if he has kids. I don't know.

00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:14.380
I mean, he's like, alone, right? I was going

00:37:14.380 --> 00:37:17.500
to say if he has kids. then I guess it makes

00:37:17.500 --> 00:37:20.840
sense that he has to stand his ground and protect

00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:24.199
the legacy for their future if things don't go

00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:29.099
the Rebels' way. But if it's just him solo and

00:37:29.099 --> 00:37:32.159
his wife is toast, then I would have just gone

00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:37.619
for it, but I guess... Maybe. Maybe he should

00:37:37.619 --> 00:37:39.099
just, like, get out of town. Maybe he should

00:37:39.099 --> 00:37:42.739
go to Oscar's villa by the sea. He's like, Hey,

00:37:42.780 --> 00:37:44.539
you got the key? I'll just go take care of it

00:37:44.539 --> 00:37:47.619
for you. The men are in themselves and mount

00:37:47.619 --> 00:37:50.519
up and they all ride into the city. In Paris,

00:37:50.659 --> 00:37:52.500
the military and civilians are at a standoff

00:37:52.500 --> 00:37:57.000
in Tilleries Square. Both sides are pointing

00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:59.300
guns at each other. The military commander is

00:37:59.300 --> 00:38:01.739
like, where the hell did all these guys get guns

00:38:01.739 --> 00:38:03.639
from? They didn't have these guns yesterday.

00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:07.119
What happened? A civilian steps forward to mock

00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:09.280
the military but his wife and child come and

00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:13.639
pull him back. But then a soldier accidentally

00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:15.739
fires and hits the kid in the back and everybody

00:38:15.739 --> 00:38:18.219
including the soldier looks on horrified. It's

00:38:18.219 --> 00:38:22.539
very much giving when that kid got shot by the

00:38:22.539 --> 00:38:25.780
jerk she dueled. Yeah, that was very intentional.

00:38:26.039 --> 00:38:29.880
This seems like a back, you know, when you have

00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:31.880
hundreds of people pointing guns at each other,

00:38:32.019 --> 00:38:35.280
one of them will screw up at some point. Yes.

00:38:35.940 --> 00:38:39.579
Yep. Oopsie. Oops. I shot a child in the back.

00:38:40.269 --> 00:38:43.570
The crowd surrounds the dying child and the civilians

00:38:43.570 --> 00:38:46.269
decide to rush the soldiers. The soldiers open

00:38:46.269 --> 00:38:48.750
fire on the people killing a lot of them. The

00:38:48.750 --> 00:38:50.829
two lines clash into each other and the narrator

00:38:50.829 --> 00:38:52.590
tells us that this is the start of the French

00:38:52.590 --> 00:38:54.789
Revolution, even though this is kind of like

00:38:54.789 --> 00:38:57.329
a day earlier than most people regard that, but

00:38:57.329 --> 00:38:59.070
you know, here we are. Oscar gets word of the

00:38:59.070 --> 00:39:00.769
skirmish in the square and they rush to help.

00:39:01.489 --> 00:39:03.170
Back at the square, the narrator tells us that

00:39:03.170 --> 00:39:05.500
despite their numbers, The people had no formal

00:39:05.500 --> 00:39:07.659
training and were essentially mowed down because

00:39:07.659 --> 00:39:09.679
they were not getting into military formation.

00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:12.000
We see Bernard and Rosalie lead people away from

00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:13.739
the square into the side streets to retreat.

00:39:14.139 --> 00:39:15.800
Company B meets the retreating people in the

00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:17.119
streets and tells them that they're on their

00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:19.500
side. The crowd is skeptical, but lets them pass

00:39:19.500 --> 00:39:22.179
through. Oscar makes it to the square and the

00:39:22.179 --> 00:39:24.119
military officer in charge introduces himself

00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:27.760
as L 'Ambesque, commander of the German cavalry

00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:30.260
regiment. So these guys are not French. Oscar

00:39:30.260 --> 00:39:33.969
introduces - Okay. But the French. OK. Oh, never

00:39:33.969 --> 00:39:37.289
mind. Hold on. There's like an insane number

00:39:37.289 --> 00:39:42.670
of factions of the French armed forces there.

00:39:42.969 --> 00:39:47.289
It's like so many different uniform colors and.

00:39:48.670 --> 00:39:52.210
Yeah, so it's very confusing. Yeah, this is why

00:39:52.210 --> 00:39:54.510
I was saying like pulling your pulling your military.

00:39:54.710 --> 00:39:56.949
It gets messy, especially if none of these guys

00:39:56.949 --> 00:39:58.409
you really know what their loyalties are. I mean,

00:39:58.469 --> 00:40:01.389
these guys are like. Probably mercenaries. I

00:40:01.389 --> 00:40:05.289
don't know. A fancy name. Fancy name. Oscar introduces

00:40:05.289 --> 00:40:11.190
herself as Oscar Francois. Francois. Francois.

00:40:11.869 --> 00:40:13.769
Francois. That's like her middle name. Is that

00:40:13.769 --> 00:40:15.710
her middle name? I don't know, because like this

00:40:15.710 --> 00:40:17.989
is not her last name and it's not Andre's last

00:40:17.989 --> 00:40:20.110
name. No, no, no. Well, maybe this is her last

00:40:20.110 --> 00:40:22.610
name, but Chargé's is the title of the family.

00:40:23.269 --> 00:40:26.159
Oh. Okay, cuz I couldn't tell what name this

00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:27.920
was, cuz I'm like, did she take Andrei's name,

00:40:27.940 --> 00:40:29.900
but Andrei's last name isn't this? No, we've

00:40:29.900 --> 00:40:32.480
seen it before. It's like Grandeur or something.

00:40:32.500 --> 00:40:34.980
We've seen this name before. Yep. But then she

00:40:34.980 --> 00:40:37.500
says she has no title and no rank, and Lambesque

00:40:37.500 --> 00:40:39.960
is like, excuse me, but Oskar raises her hand

00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:42.440
and her men point guns at the German cavalry.

00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:45.860
She tells Lambesque to pull back or be shot,

00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:47.739
and Lambesque is like, oh shit, you guys are

00:40:47.739 --> 00:40:49.719
defecting, and then he pulls all his men back.

00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:53.420
Yep. Oskar takes her military insignia and throws

00:40:53.420 --> 00:40:55.349
it on the ground. The people come back to the

00:40:55.349 --> 00:40:57.050
square and ask Oscar if she's on their side.

00:40:57.309 --> 00:40:59.630
She says yes, but they still don't trust them.

00:41:00.329 --> 00:41:02.769
Oscar disarms and dismounts and walks into the

00:41:02.769 --> 00:41:04.929
crowd. She said that she used to be a noble,

00:41:05.409 --> 00:41:07.909
but her men are all commoners. They have convinced

00:41:07.909 --> 00:41:10.090
her to fight for the third estate. You may not

00:41:10.090 --> 00:41:12.769
trust her, but you can trust them. Bernard pushes

00:41:12.769 --> 00:41:15.170
through the crowd to Oscar and declares that

00:41:15.170 --> 00:41:17.809
he will trust Oscar and Company B. The crowd

00:41:17.809 --> 00:41:19.610
recognizes Bernard and they're like, oh shit,

00:41:19.710 --> 00:41:21.829
it's that one guy. And they all decide to trust

00:41:21.829 --> 00:41:24.659
them too. Everybody shakes hands and has a good

00:41:24.659 --> 00:41:27.099
time Bernard tells Andre that he knew this day

00:41:27.099 --> 00:41:29.460
would come and they shake hands, too Meanwhile

00:41:29.460 --> 00:41:32.460
Rosalie goes and hugs Oscar cuz she's here too.

00:41:32.460 --> 00:41:37.760
Whoo -hoo reunion She doesn't have a sword. Why

00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:41.280
I don't know Rosalie is not armed. She should

00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:46.099
be she has the most training disappointing It's

00:41:46.099 --> 00:41:52.369
bad they taught her how to shoot. Yeah To have

00:41:52.369 --> 00:41:55.449
her moment. She does. Next two episodes. My God.

00:41:55.530 --> 00:41:56.969
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, she definitely does. We

00:41:56.969 --> 00:41:58.570
need to we need to get a scene of Rosalie shooting

00:41:58.570 --> 00:42:03.750
a guy. Or it was all for nothing. Yes, for real.

00:42:04.789 --> 00:42:06.730
Elsewhere, another military company is on their

00:42:06.730 --> 00:42:09.710
way to retake the square. Oscar and her men order.

00:42:10.010 --> 00:42:12.050
No, Oscar orders her men to mount up and cut

00:42:12.050 --> 00:42:14.170
them off. She tells Bernard to build a barricade

00:42:14.170 --> 00:42:16.710
in the streets while they all stall them. And

00:42:16.710 --> 00:42:19.389
Bernard's like a barricade. And Oscar's like,

00:42:19.389 --> 00:42:21.480
yeah, just like pile a bunch of shit up. You

00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:23.239
know, it's the French Revolution, dude. We're

00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:25.559
making a barricade. Company B rides off. I guess

00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:28.480
you just had to think that people just didn't

00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:30.900
have the resources to know these things. We just

00:42:30.900 --> 00:42:32.780
know them because we learned about them in, like,

00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:35.000
history or video games and stuff, but, like,

00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:37.880
I guess it's just not a concept. That's true.

00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:40.440
You know, people with a very determined role

00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:45.539
without any, like, room for exploration. Like,

00:42:45.539 --> 00:42:47.900
because it seems obvious, but, you know. Yeah.

00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:50.960
At some point, it wasn't obvious. You know, I

00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:52.360
think in real life probably what happened was

00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:54.300
all of the retired soldiers are like you got

00:42:54.300 --> 00:42:56.059
to build a barricade Like you got to just stack

00:42:56.059 --> 00:43:00.840
a bunch of shit up Anyway Oscar sees the military

00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:03.860
company And they charge into their rear. I guess

00:43:03.860 --> 00:43:06.320
I should note that company B is entirely mounted

00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:09.219
It's about 50 mounted soldiers and the guys are

00:43:09.219 --> 00:43:12.210
charging into are all on foot The company is

00:43:12.210 --> 00:43:14.570
caught off guard, and Company B is able to charge

00:43:14.570 --> 00:43:17.170
them. During the fight, Andre's eye loses sight,

00:43:17.329 --> 00:43:19.829
and he is narrowly saved by Elan. He almost dies

00:43:19.829 --> 00:43:22.730
right here. After a few chaotic moments, Oscar

00:43:22.730 --> 00:43:29.250
orders a withdrawal, and her men write off. Hit

00:43:29.250 --> 00:43:31.590
him and run off. However, word has gotten round

00:43:31.590 --> 00:43:33.690
of Company B's defection and another cavalry

00:43:33.690 --> 00:43:35.969
guard is waiting to ambush them. The narrator

00:43:35.969 --> 00:43:39.130
tells us that by 3 p .m., multiple clashes between

00:43:39.130 --> 00:43:40.730
the military and armed civilians have broken

00:43:40.730 --> 00:43:43.130
out all over Paris, creating chaos. Remember

00:43:43.130 --> 00:43:45.449
that thing I said about 10 riots instead of one?

00:43:46.030 --> 00:43:50.199
Here you go, baby. Yeah, a company B turns a

00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:52.860
corner and rides directly into the ambush Oscar

00:43:52.860 --> 00:43:54.780
turns the company around but they suffer heavy

00:43:54.780 --> 00:43:57.500
losses on the retreat They run into another ambush

00:43:57.500 --> 00:43:59.599
line and Oscar realizes that they've been hemmed

00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:02.400
in Loseray tries to do a last stand charge, but

00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:06.000
is shot down. So rip to him Company be retrieved.

00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:10.099
Yeah, he tried his freckles are so cute Company

00:44:10.099 --> 00:44:12.039
be retreats into the sewers. We learned that

00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:14.019
about half of their 50 -man company has been

00:44:14.019 --> 00:44:16.480
wiped out Oscar tells them that their only hope

00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:18.760
is to regroup with Bernard at the square They'll

00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:20.219
have to fight their way through to get there

00:44:20.219 --> 00:44:22.199
though because they're behind enemy lines We're

00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:25.199
doing like classic classic war movie stuff here

00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:27.239
Oscar and her company emerged from the sewers

00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:29.699
and are surprised by a guard stationed at the

00:44:29.699 --> 00:44:32.079
entrance The guard exchanges fire with Oscar,

00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:34.139
but she's able to shoot him down However, we

00:44:34.139 --> 00:44:36.360
see at the bullet that the guard fired has hit

00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:38.519
Andre in the chest a couple people behind her

00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:41.239
and he falls while calling out to Oscar Oscar

00:44:41.239 --> 00:44:44.369
rushes to him as we cut to credits Well, there

00:44:44.369 --> 00:44:47.309
it is. Final day. Andre's final day. It's going

00:44:47.309 --> 00:44:52.469
to kill off. Yeah. 50 is such a small group of

00:44:52.469 --> 00:44:54.650
people to begin with, and now they're just 25.

00:44:54.730 --> 00:44:57.070
Yeah. I mean, for a company like they're all

00:44:57.070 --> 00:44:59.329
horse, like they're all mounted. Well, they're

00:44:59.329 --> 00:45:02.289
just for more mostly patrolling the city. So

00:45:02.289 --> 00:45:04.210
I guess in that regards, it makes sense. But

00:45:04.210 --> 00:45:06.769
like deploying them doesn't seem too effective

00:45:06.769 --> 00:45:10.030
on their own if it was in a situation like this.

00:45:10.769 --> 00:45:14.210
Yeah, the news travels freaking fast and the

00:45:14.210 --> 00:45:16.550
world has no telephones or anything. I mean,

00:45:16.670 --> 00:45:18.110
it was a whole day, right? Like they got there

00:45:18.110 --> 00:45:20.989
in the morning and it looked like this happened

00:45:20.989 --> 00:45:23.869
in the evening. So like, you know, they had several

00:45:23.869 --> 00:45:27.070
hours to relay. Yeah, that's true. Orders around.

00:45:27.210 --> 00:45:30.650
But yeah, chaos broke out. Oscar defects and

00:45:30.650 --> 00:45:32.989
is immediately like, let's just kill all these

00:45:32.989 --> 00:45:35.190
guys. Let's just let's just shoot our own guys

00:45:35.190 --> 00:45:38.690
in the army. Like fucking let's go. Trigger shy

00:45:38.690 --> 00:45:41.269
up to this point, but no more. Gloves off. Let's

00:45:41.269 --> 00:45:44.389
go. We're going for it. Yeah. Let's just shoot

00:45:44.389 --> 00:45:46.469
the cavalry though. That first cavalry group

00:45:46.469 --> 00:45:48.969
that shot all those people. Yeah. Some go. I

00:45:48.969 --> 00:45:50.750
guess that would have been disgraceful to just

00:45:50.750 --> 00:45:54.090
hit them. That's true. Oh, well, yeah, I guess.

00:45:54.409 --> 00:45:56.449
Well, no, because then they like kind of ambush.

00:45:56.730 --> 00:45:58.989
I don't know. That's true. Anyway, what do you

00:45:58.989 --> 00:46:02.070
think about this episode? The war episode. War

00:46:02.070 --> 00:46:07.030
time, baby. We only had two episodes after this.

00:46:07.030 --> 00:46:09.489
I know. This is this whole show is just leading

00:46:09.489 --> 00:46:12.469
up to it more than anything else. But everything

00:46:12.469 --> 00:46:17.510
is happening all at once. I didn't think it'd

00:46:17.510 --> 00:46:21.869
go this way. I. You what? I didn't think they'd

00:46:21.869 --> 00:46:24.849
get wiped out before. Well, the thing that happens

00:46:24.849 --> 00:46:27.590
next. I mean, if you think about it, like until

00:46:27.590 --> 00:46:30.849
Oscar and. Throughout Oscar's time there they

00:46:30.849 --> 00:46:33.570
like were just there to collect a check like

00:46:33.570 --> 00:46:36.050
I don't think they're necessarily fully invested

00:46:36.050 --> 00:46:40.150
in training and stuff at the time so Or this

00:46:40.150 --> 00:46:43.230
is their first real skirmish. Oh, I think they

00:46:43.230 --> 00:46:46.289
did like they were effective, right? Because

00:46:46.289 --> 00:46:49.070
they didn't know they have no like Intel so they

00:46:49.070 --> 00:46:50.550
can't know if they're about to turn a corner

00:46:50.550 --> 00:46:54.190
into a whole line of guns I think they're like

00:46:54.190 --> 00:46:56.239
effective i'm just saying i didn't think this

00:46:56.239 --> 00:46:58.480
is how the show would go i didn't think oscar

00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:00.440
would just like immediately be like to be in

00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:04.039
it oh yeah right at the jump i mean the revolution

00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:07.699
has started i guess uh well we have no time she's

00:47:07.699 --> 00:47:10.179
going out day one yeah andre's dying and we have

00:47:10.179 --> 00:47:12.539
two more episodes after this she's got to get

00:47:12.539 --> 00:47:17.039
into it it's true yeah uh God, do you have any

00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:20.420
bigger thoughts? Um, I don't I just this is just

00:47:20.420 --> 00:47:22.500
very like you gotta take it as it is There's

00:47:22.500 --> 00:47:25.099
not much room for interpretation at this point

00:47:25.099 --> 00:47:29.800
Uh, I mean I can say why hope comes next but

00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:32.059
what what is there to hope that comes next? What

00:47:32.059 --> 00:47:35.559
is there? I don't know Rosalie gets to shoot

00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:39.019
somebody do we think that's my only hope that's

00:47:39.019 --> 00:47:41.360
good Do you think oscar's gonna go like sicko

00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:44.659
mode like punish oscar? I should be like taking

00:47:44.659 --> 00:47:47.469
dudes out Cause Andre is dying. She's gonna go

00:47:47.469 --> 00:47:51.409
like rage mode. She can go beast mode. I don't

00:47:51.409 --> 00:47:54.289
know. Cause that's the one option. I don't know

00:47:54.289 --> 00:47:56.750
what the other option. I guess that is the option.

00:47:56.750 --> 00:47:58.389
That would be so out of character. Because she's

00:47:58.389 --> 00:48:00.570
dying anyways and he dies. So there's no point

00:48:00.570 --> 00:48:02.750
in even trying to live longer unless it's really

00:48:02.750 --> 00:48:05.210
like, I got to do this for the people. Then she

00:48:05.210 --> 00:48:09.030
like, you know, does what she can until it's

00:48:09.030 --> 00:48:11.969
resolved. And then, I don't know, wastes away

00:48:11.969 --> 00:48:17.400
or something. Yeah. Yeah. This is not gonna be

00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:19.920
a happy ending. The only good thing is gonna

00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:26.840
be that we get to see the end of... Oh my God,

00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:28.900
Queen Marie Antoinette. Oh, Marie Antoinette.

00:48:29.059 --> 00:48:30.780
You think they're, yeah. You think the lassie

00:48:30.780 --> 00:48:32.480
is who are getting her head cut off? You think

00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:34.219
they're gonna show? I don't know if they're gonna

00:48:34.219 --> 00:48:35.980
show it to us. Almost certainly. They gotta.

00:48:36.579 --> 00:48:38.659
I feel like if any show is gonna... They're like,

00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:41.860
she'll be there. And then we pan off screen and

00:48:41.860 --> 00:48:44.659
then we see the birds fly from the sounds of

00:48:44.659 --> 00:48:47.679
the, you know, guillotine and the narrator talks.

00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:49.539
Do you think we get to find out who the narrator

00:48:49.539 --> 00:48:51.679
is? Like the identity or that's just... Oh, I

00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:53.159
don't think so. I think it's just like a device.

00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:58.820
Yeah. I bet it'll be guillotine comes down and

00:48:58.820 --> 00:49:03.460
we get like a match cut to somebody like pruning

00:49:03.460 --> 00:49:07.039
a rose or something and it like falls and...

00:49:06.940 --> 00:49:10.019
Oh, that's a good. That's a good. Yeah. We love

00:49:10.019 --> 00:49:13.199
our roses. Over. She's got to die. We got to

00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:15.199
see the execution. There's no way we don't get

00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:19.440
that. Who? Who are we like ending the series

00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:23.139
on is like giving us a parting from the show.

00:49:23.139 --> 00:49:25.300
I mean, it has to be left. It has to be Marie,

00:49:25.300 --> 00:49:27.159
right? Like she's probably thinking of Oscar.

00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:31.880
Huh? Oh, I bet she thinks of Oscar at the end

00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:34.360
and then she gets her head cut off. Yeah. Yeah.

00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:37.510
Yeah. Yeah. That's a good ending. That's that's

00:49:37.510 --> 00:49:42.010
mine. That's my cold shot there. I like What?

00:49:42.789 --> 00:49:45.550
Duke early on doesn't matter doesn't fucking

00:49:45.550 --> 00:49:49.170
matter. Oh my god the party a Couple episodes

00:49:49.170 --> 00:49:52.489
ago where they like they're like, oh Robespierre

00:49:52.489 --> 00:49:54.769
Duke early on is going to the palace to petition

00:49:54.769 --> 00:49:57.030
to become the new king Rose here's just like

00:49:57.030 --> 00:49:59.130
well, that's stupid It isn't gonna work who cares

00:49:59.130 --> 00:50:01.980
and that's the last we've ever hear of him Uh,

00:50:02.099 --> 00:50:05.480
maybe he died. Maybe. Oh, it's so funny. Yeah.

00:50:05.820 --> 00:50:08.639
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, once we have the ending,

00:50:08.820 --> 00:50:12.099
we can like think on the show as a whole, it's

00:50:12.099 --> 00:50:14.940
been really good. Although there are like certain

00:50:14.940 --> 00:50:17.559
things where it's like, oh, it feels like we

00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:21.059
like built this thing up and then anticlimactic

00:50:21.059 --> 00:50:23.960
or like it wasn't seen through to the end. I

00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:26.000
mean, in particular, I think of Rosalie with

00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:28.780
her whole thing with her mom and. Yeah, I mean.

00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:31.239
I don't think that was anti -climax, though.

00:50:32.820 --> 00:50:36.059
Well, we didn't get to see. Basically, it goes

00:50:36.059 --> 00:50:40.280
through Mom and then somehow. Yeah. I mean, that

00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:42.880
feels like a plot device to get her away from

00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:44.280
Oscar. You know what I mean? Like that just seems

00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:46.760
like we got to separate everybody. It would have

00:50:46.760 --> 00:50:48.539
been nice to see that, though. I wish we got

00:50:48.539 --> 00:50:52.400
more time with Rosalie. Yeah. I mean, because

00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:55.840
it's. How many arcs have we had in this? Oh,

00:50:55.840 --> 00:50:58.920
my God. Like, there's the beginning. You know,

00:50:58.920 --> 00:51:01.679
there's the Madame. We have Madame Dewberry,

00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:04.519
like we get like. So it's initially Duke early

00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:06.780
on doing that stuff, trying to disrupt the wedding.

00:51:06.780 --> 00:51:11.300
Yeah, it's Dewberry. And then we get Shane. Yeah,

00:51:11.780 --> 00:51:14.920
we get John and Rosalie kind of happening at

00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:17.900
the same time. And then we get what's your face?

00:51:19.619 --> 00:51:25.570
Charlotte's mom. Pontiac Pontiac. Yeah, we get

00:51:25.570 --> 00:51:27.510
her. That kind of all happens at the same time.

00:51:28.489 --> 00:51:33.250
And then first and shows up like a billion times

00:51:33.250 --> 00:51:35.670
throughout this. Yeah. Lots of time. All of those

00:51:35.670 --> 00:51:37.429
four things kind of happen all at the same time.

00:51:37.429 --> 00:51:39.010
And they call it intersected. Like, that's probably

00:51:39.010 --> 00:51:42.230
like the most fun part of the show. Yeah. Yep.

00:51:42.429 --> 00:51:44.889
And then it's just been leaving. Charlotte dies.

00:51:45.070 --> 00:51:48.449
Pontiac gets kind of written off. She kind of

00:51:48.449 --> 00:51:51.860
fades first and. shows back up and that causes

00:51:51.860 --> 00:51:55.320
drama. And then it's Robespierre and Bernard

00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:57.699
and the Black Knight. And now we're here. Yeah.

00:51:57.980 --> 00:52:01.280
So it's a lot of different things have happened.

00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:04.880
I mean, it's a lifetime basically that we're

00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:08.659
seeing. So I guess that makes sense. Yeah. Which

00:52:08.659 --> 00:52:11.099
is just a very different setup than most animes

00:52:11.099 --> 00:52:14.679
I've seen. Or it's like we're on a journey for

00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:17.099
a specific thing and maybe like that thing becomes

00:52:17.099 --> 00:52:19.739
more complicated, but still based off that thing.

00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:24.440
And this is just so many things. Yeah. I like

00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:25.840
how it's turned out, though, because I mean,

00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:28.059
I feel like the main through line and I guess

00:52:28.059 --> 00:52:29.960
I'll probably we'll see how it ends. But I feel

00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:32.940
like right now the main thing for me is like

00:52:32.940 --> 00:52:35.159
we get the we get the story from like essentially

00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:37.119
three different class perspectives. Right. Or

00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:39.699
it's like we get Oscar, who's like a noble, who's

00:52:39.699 --> 00:52:43.119
kind of like in between. The royal family and

00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:45.719
the commoners she's like a very privileged position

00:52:45.719 --> 00:52:47.639
But also has like different things she has to

00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:50.019
do You know when she realizes that things are

00:52:50.019 --> 00:52:52.059
going bad her dad tells her to ignore it and

00:52:52.059 --> 00:52:54.960
just follow orders or whatever, right? We also

00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:57.320
get Maria's perspective obviously is the Queen

00:52:57.320 --> 00:52:59.440
of France She's like on top of everything right

00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:01.219
like doesn't really answer to anybody except

00:53:01.219 --> 00:53:03.059
for the king, but she kind of manipulates him

00:53:03.059 --> 00:53:07.289
So she's kind of top dog And we see Rosalie,

00:53:07.389 --> 00:53:09.329
who's like a commoner who like goes through it

00:53:09.329 --> 00:53:11.530
the most. Most of her life is out of her hands.

00:53:12.190 --> 00:53:14.230
Various things happen. She's able to like do

00:53:14.230 --> 00:53:16.869
kind of some stuff in terms of like getting revenge

00:53:16.869 --> 00:53:18.650
or not getting revenge, getting help from people,

00:53:18.809 --> 00:53:21.929
all that other stuff. So we kind of see how the

00:53:21.929 --> 00:53:26.130
system in place, right? Like the nobility system,

00:53:26.150 --> 00:53:28.550
the title system, the ASEAN regime, all that

00:53:28.550 --> 00:53:32.230
stuff is like exists and it makes all three of

00:53:32.230 --> 00:53:36.769
them just miserable. Right. Like the fact that

00:53:36.769 --> 00:53:39.130
Marie has to be married to King Louis and can't

00:53:39.130 --> 00:53:41.510
marry Furson and just like go off somewhere and

00:53:41.510 --> 00:53:45.010
just like like her best life would be marrying

00:53:45.010 --> 00:53:46.949
Furson and just like fucking off somewhere. Right.

00:53:47.250 --> 00:53:49.050
And then none of this would have happened. You

00:53:49.050 --> 00:53:51.969
know. Yeah. And like Oscar clearly like in this

00:53:51.969 --> 00:53:57.110
episode, it is so like, oh, if Andre wasn't wasn't

00:53:57.110 --> 00:53:59.409
a commoner, like if Andre was a noble, you probably

00:53:59.409 --> 00:54:01.809
would have just married him early on. And like

00:54:01.949 --> 00:54:03.570
all of these problems would have been avoided.

00:54:03.630 --> 00:54:05.010
Like, you wouldn't have to deal with the first

00:54:05.010 --> 00:54:07.929
thing. You know, there would be like... Well,

00:54:07.929 --> 00:54:10.489
she also probably wouldn't get involved in the

00:54:10.489 --> 00:54:12.349
whole revolution thing, though, because Andrei

00:54:12.349 --> 00:54:15.170
is kind of her little insight into that. Right.

00:54:15.190 --> 00:54:16.610
But it's like, if there wasn't the Atheon Regime,

00:54:16.650 --> 00:54:17.989
like, if there wasn't this regime, you wouldn't

00:54:17.989 --> 00:54:20.349
even need a revolution. The revolution is about

00:54:20.349 --> 00:54:22.269
getting rid of this thing that just makes it

00:54:22.269 --> 00:54:25.369
like this system that exists to elevate people

00:54:25.369 --> 00:54:28.550
in power. But the people in power aren't really

00:54:28.550 --> 00:54:30.510
even benefiting from it. Like, they're all miserable,

00:54:30.630 --> 00:54:32.960
too. You know what I mean? Like Rosalie has a

00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:34.219
terrible time because she just like can't like

00:54:34.219 --> 00:54:37.079
her mother dies. She like has to scrap. And she

00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:39.219
kind of gets lucky by like hooking up with the

00:54:39.219 --> 00:54:41.820
right people at the right time. But like, you

00:54:41.820 --> 00:54:43.420
know, could have easily ended up like how it

00:54:43.420 --> 00:54:45.159
did for Jean, which is like the same thing. Like,

00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:47.019
you know, they're both kind of in this same sinking

00:54:47.019 --> 00:54:49.860
ship and they have to do something. So like the

00:54:49.860 --> 00:54:52.840
whole the cohesion of the show being about like

00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:54.599
leading to the revolution, I think, like really

00:54:54.599 --> 00:54:56.780
fits together in terms of like, yeah, it's the

00:54:56.780 --> 00:54:58.780
society that you live in that is suffocating

00:54:58.780 --> 00:55:02.650
you. Like, the structures that require of you,

00:55:02.769 --> 00:55:05.090
the things that are, like, the conveniences,

00:55:05.670 --> 00:55:08.630
the culture around it, the, I mean, like, the

00:55:08.630 --> 00:55:10.969
literal law of, like, oh, nobles can only get

00:55:10.969 --> 00:55:14.630
married to each other because the king lets them,

00:55:15.050 --> 00:55:17.530
is, like, the suffocating thing that is destroying

00:55:17.530 --> 00:55:20.489
everybody. And, like, it has to lead to a new

00:55:20.489 --> 00:55:24.690
era. And it's, um, it's both a bummer that, like,

00:55:24.929 --> 00:55:27.670
Oscar and Andre are not going to live to see

00:55:27.670 --> 00:55:30.670
that era. But it is heartening to be like, they're

00:55:30.670 --> 00:55:35.690
gonna use their last time on Earth to fight for

00:55:35.690 --> 00:55:37.730
it, right? A future for someone else so they

00:55:37.730 --> 00:55:40.210
don't have to deal with those things. And like,

00:55:40.269 --> 00:55:44.530
you know. Yeah. Joe, you just came up with all

00:55:44.530 --> 00:55:46.429
that off the top of the dome. No, I thought about

00:55:46.429 --> 00:55:49.230
this earlier. I was thinking about this all today.

00:55:49.309 --> 00:55:53.469
This is all you. Okay, but like, you're making

00:55:53.469 --> 00:56:00.559
it... I feel bad. You feel bad? Like, you bring

00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:06.079
such class to this podcast. Oh no, I mean...

00:56:06.079 --> 00:56:10.360
So sophisticated and... Well, partly I'm thinking

00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:13.139
about this because it's like, you know, this

00:56:13.139 --> 00:56:14.800
stuff happens. We live in a world now where there

00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:17.059
isn't class structure and like all of the people

00:56:17.059 --> 00:56:19.780
in power right now, I guess to date this podcast,

00:56:20.380 --> 00:56:22.460
all want to restore that. They all want to make

00:56:22.460 --> 00:56:25.690
these like... conservative structure hierarchies

00:56:25.690 --> 00:56:27.650
again that everybody hated and rebelled from

00:56:27.650 --> 00:56:30.809
the first time. And, like, it also makes them

00:56:30.809 --> 00:56:32.829
miserable. They all, like, I don't know. It seems

00:56:32.829 --> 00:56:34.510
like all of them hate their lives, too. I'm just

00:56:34.510 --> 00:56:37.150
like, what is this for? It's like this system

00:56:37.150 --> 00:56:40.010
exists, but who is it benefiting and why does

00:56:40.010 --> 00:56:42.289
it exist? Like, everybody becomes beholden to

00:56:42.289 --> 00:56:44.349
the thing that, like, guides their life and they

00:56:44.349 --> 00:56:49.570
all, like, hate. Spite. The world is fueled by

00:56:49.570 --> 00:56:51.780
spite. Yeah. People who don't like... Don't want

00:56:51.780 --> 00:56:53.380
you to do that. So you do it. It doesn't have

00:56:53.380 --> 00:56:55.159
to be that way. I mean, I think the nice thing

00:56:55.159 --> 00:56:57.619
about like the French Revolution in the show

00:56:57.619 --> 00:56:59.739
and, you know, getting up to the point that like

00:56:59.739 --> 00:57:01.400
we get to in the show. And I think it makes sense

00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:03.619
that it ends here because like, you know, in

00:57:03.619 --> 00:57:05.400
real life, the revolution starts getting pretty

00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:10.260
about something else pretty quick is like there's

00:57:10.260 --> 00:57:13.159
opportunity for a different way to live. You

00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:14.559
know what I mean? Like you are not hemmed in

00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:16.920
by whatever social system that exists. Those

00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:19.750
things are. you know, constructed, which means

00:57:19.750 --> 00:57:21.809
they can be deconstructed and turned into something

00:57:21.809 --> 00:57:24.570
else. It's like a nice, we'll see how it ends.

00:57:24.630 --> 00:57:27.489
I think despite the fact that it's like a tragedy

00:57:27.489 --> 00:57:30.230
on the face of it, I think it'll end much more

00:57:30.230 --> 00:57:33.329
optimistic than you might expect based on what

00:57:33.329 --> 00:57:36.070
happens like on the screen, if that makes sense.

00:57:36.090 --> 00:57:37.670
Like, I think the feeling will be optimistic

00:57:37.670 --> 00:57:42.510
about it. Yes. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Excited

00:57:42.510 --> 00:57:48.010
to see how it all ends. It's all... happening

00:57:48.010 --> 00:57:52.730
now, it's... This is the longest series we've

00:57:52.730 --> 00:57:55.429
done all at once. Well, that's not true. We did

00:57:55.429 --> 00:57:57.769
this so much faster than we did Kimi ni Tadoke.

00:57:58.190 --> 00:58:02.030
Uh, yes, we were in that one for a while. That's

00:58:02.030 --> 00:58:03.530
because, I feel like that was just because, like,

00:58:03.630 --> 00:58:05.230
season three had, like, hour -long episodes,

00:58:05.269 --> 00:58:08.429
so each one episode was, like, one episode of

00:58:08.429 --> 00:58:12.190
the show. Or maybe the show just felt more compelling,

00:58:12.309 --> 00:58:15.659
so it didn't feel like it dragged on. There's

00:58:15.659 --> 00:58:17.579
so much stuff happens on this show. This show

00:58:17.579 --> 00:58:19.260
is like at a, we were talking about how many

00:58:19.260 --> 00:58:21.480
different arcs happen. It's like breakneck speed

00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:23.519
all the time. Like we covered two episodes today

00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:25.000
and it's like, there's just so much shit to talk

00:58:25.000 --> 00:58:27.059
about. Like I think doing three was the good

00:58:27.059 --> 00:58:29.400
enough pace because there was like enough stuff

00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:31.000
to get through. Like there were enough arcs that

00:58:31.000 --> 00:58:33.579
were like three, like in threes that it worked

00:58:33.579 --> 00:58:36.929
out. But yeah, this was a... It's going to be

00:58:36.929 --> 00:58:39.050
really hard to compare this show to the other

00:58:39.050 --> 00:58:41.730
ones just because it's so different, like genre

00:58:41.730 --> 00:58:44.530
-wise. Maybe we need to start making buckets

00:58:44.530 --> 00:58:47.389
with Shoujo of like... Who can win in a fight?

00:58:47.409 --> 00:58:49.829
...so we only compare this against... Which main

00:58:49.829 --> 00:58:53.809
character is going to win in a fight? Yeah. Uh...

00:58:53.809 --> 00:58:56.969
I think it's Oscar. Who's going to have the best

00:58:56.969 --> 00:59:01.329
outfit to prom? Unless it's... Karda. And then

00:59:01.329 --> 00:59:04.969
it's Chihayab. Um, the best outfit to prom. I

00:59:04.969 --> 00:59:10.329
feel like... It would be, uh, Kyoko. She'd be

00:59:10.329 --> 00:59:12.429
all dolled up for, like, a celebrity. We need

00:59:12.429 --> 00:59:15.590
to... Oh, yeah. Yeah, she could get the real

00:59:15.590 --> 00:59:17.730
treatment. Yeah. We need to do... You know how,

00:59:17.730 --> 00:59:19.909
like, um, in Wreck -It Ralph 2, there's that

00:59:19.909 --> 00:59:21.409
scene... I haven't seen Wreck -It Ralph 2, but

00:59:21.409 --> 00:59:23.469
I know there's that scene where, like, all the

00:59:23.469 --> 00:59:25.309
Disney princesses are together, like, hanging

00:59:25.309 --> 00:59:27.730
out in, like, a dorm. Imagine that for all the

00:59:27.730 --> 00:59:30.010
protagonist of the shows that we've seen so far.

00:59:30.309 --> 00:59:31.610
That'd be funny. Like, do we think they would

00:59:31.610 --> 00:59:34.030
get along? Yeah. Oh, we should just start doing

00:59:34.030 --> 00:59:37.530
this, like, make our own little, like, what's

00:59:37.530 --> 00:59:40.929
everybody doing in this world? Shoujo. Yeah,

00:59:41.030 --> 00:59:46.849
the Shoujo realm. Uh, yeah, I think... God. Misaki

00:59:46.849 --> 00:59:50.449
does not fit in with the... She's such a nothing

00:59:50.449 --> 00:59:52.730
person. Oh, dude, Misaki would have so much fun

00:59:52.730 --> 00:59:56.510
showing, like, Oscar or Andre, the, like, the

00:59:56.510 --> 00:59:58.250
little battle dolls, and they're like, oh, that's

00:59:58.250 --> 01:00:00.219
cute. That's true. That's really fun. Yeah, I

01:00:00.219 --> 01:00:02.780
think they would have fun with that. Uh -huh.

01:00:03.019 --> 01:00:07.920
That would be so good. Yeah. We need another...

01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:09.780
We'll get... We'll eventually get to something

01:00:09.780 --> 01:00:13.079
where like there's a protagonist that does action

01:00:13.079 --> 01:00:15.699
like Oscar. You think like Chizu and Oscar would

01:00:15.699 --> 01:00:18.619
like do like tussle a little bit, you know? We

01:00:18.619 --> 01:00:22.139
like to get little fights. I feel like Ayane,

01:00:22.300 --> 01:00:26.280
maybe Ayane and Oscar could like... Get together.

01:00:26.480 --> 01:00:27.800
I think so. You don't think I on it would hang

01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:32.280
out with Marie. So glamorous. Oh, God. No, because

01:00:32.280 --> 01:00:36.780
Marie and now a freaking what's her face? Um,

01:00:37.019 --> 01:00:44.039
um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um,

01:00:45.380 --> 01:00:48.099
um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um,

01:00:48.119 --> 01:00:48.900
um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um,

01:00:48.900 --> 01:00:48.960
um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um,

01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:50.840
um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um,

01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:50.840
um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um,

01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:50.880
um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um,

01:00:50.880 --> 01:00:55.300
um, um, um, um, um, um, um, You know, they'd

01:00:55.300 --> 01:00:56.780
play cards together. They'd all sit at the card.

01:00:56.800 --> 01:00:59.280
Mokko would only do it because she would be using

01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:01.500
Marie for her own benefit. Oh, yeah. Of course.

01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:05.059
For sure. She's too ambitious for friendship.

01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:06.719
Oh, do you think Kyoko would get along with Marie

01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:10.280
because they're both, like, spiteful? I don't.

01:01:10.340 --> 01:01:12.179
She'd be like, oh, my ex sucks. And Marie would

01:01:12.179 --> 01:01:15.739
be like, hell yeah, your ex sucks. No. Let me

01:01:15.739 --> 01:01:17.239
tell you about my husband who just makes lox

01:01:17.239 --> 01:01:22.300
all day. That idiot. Well, there is the like

01:01:22.300 --> 01:01:27.019
the little the the Everyone has a chest and their

01:01:27.019 --> 01:01:30.179
heart stick. Oh my gosh. With all the locks.

01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:34.079
Maria's like, dude, one time my husband made

01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:36.699
me one of these. It was terrible. It was enormous

01:01:36.699 --> 01:01:39.739
and heavy. I'm like, why would I want this? Why

01:01:39.739 --> 01:01:42.760
would you ever think I, the Queen of France,

01:01:42.920 --> 01:01:47.679
want this big ass hard shaped lock? Oh my God.

01:01:48.659 --> 01:01:52.070
We're giving. This needs to happen. They need

01:01:52.070 --> 01:01:54.389
to do this. You know, they need to just, like,

01:01:54.909 --> 01:01:59.869
make a, like, shoujo verse. Everything's coming

01:01:59.869 --> 01:02:02.769
together. They all hang out in the little, like,

01:02:02.929 --> 01:02:05.190
the little lobby or whatever. Yeah, that's, like,

01:02:05.269 --> 01:02:07.469
how, like, Toonami and stuff. I feel like they'd

01:02:07.469 --> 01:02:09.369
have little shorts there if they hang that together.

01:02:09.409 --> 01:02:11.469
Remember that? We need, like, that. It was Cartoon

01:02:11.469 --> 01:02:13.289
Network that had, like, the little city or whatever,

01:02:13.369 --> 01:02:14.889
and they would be like, oh, Johnny Bravo's here,

01:02:14.889 --> 01:02:16.489
and the Powerpuff Girls are here, and all of

01:02:16.489 --> 01:02:19.250
it. They had those, like, promos. Oh, yeah. Yeah,

01:02:19.489 --> 01:02:22.789
it's like what if what if Sam or maybe for like

01:02:22.789 --> 01:02:24.750
here's what's on now and here's what's coming

01:02:24.750 --> 01:02:27.489
up. Yeah. Yeah, we need to make that for like

01:02:27.489 --> 01:02:31.670
all the shows that we watched. We should for

01:02:31.670 --> 01:02:38.670
sure. And I'll do that for a second year. We're

01:02:38.670 --> 01:02:41.710
not. God, that sounds like work, but maybe we

01:02:41.710 --> 01:02:45.530
just dedicate an episode to a bonus episode or

01:02:45.530 --> 01:02:47.710
something. Yeah, like we just like map it out.

01:02:47.800 --> 01:02:50.079
Oh, that would be so good, dude. They should

01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:52.059
let us remake stuff. They should let us put us

01:02:52.059 --> 01:02:54.440
to church. We make a D &D campaign based off

01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:56.440
the show, Joe. Oh, like a tabletop RPG, and it's

01:02:56.440 --> 01:02:58.059
like you get to play all these different guys.

01:02:58.179 --> 01:03:00.619
Oh, that'd be so funny. Like a one -shot. I don't

01:03:00.619 --> 01:03:02.559
know how to do that, but if I did, I would do

01:03:02.559 --> 01:03:06.119
that. Somebody learn. Oh, my God. That's so funny.

01:03:06.380 --> 01:03:10.869
Yeah. OK. So yes. Obviously, we're having fun

01:03:10.869 --> 01:03:14.409
and we will continue to have fun with what we're

01:03:14.409 --> 01:03:18.230
doing here on Show Joe. Next episode, Oscar dies,

01:03:18.369 --> 01:03:22.010
probably, and also Maria, I guess. And Andre.

01:03:22.269 --> 01:03:27.360
Everything's dropping. So. What's what I guess

01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:30.840
what lessons do we learn in this episode? The

01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:31.940
lesson that we learned is that you should rate

01:03:31.940 --> 01:03:34.480
us five stars on your podcast platform of choice

01:03:34.480 --> 01:03:36.780
do it right now I know you haven't done it. I

01:03:36.780 --> 01:03:38.019
know you've been thinking about it and you're

01:03:38.019 --> 01:03:39.579
like, oh, I'll remember to do it You should do

01:03:39.579 --> 01:03:42.139
it now. You should put it in there also rate

01:03:42.139 --> 01:03:43.480
other podcasts You know, I mean if you like pot

01:03:43.480 --> 01:03:45.760
like just it's easy thing to forget today. No,

01:03:45.940 --> 01:03:47.539
it's nice It's nice to give people ratings. It's

01:03:47.539 --> 01:03:52.130
nice to to spread awareness, to boost them algorithm

01:03:52.130 --> 01:03:54.329
points. And that's what we need. We need to appeal

01:03:54.329 --> 01:03:56.809
to the bots. The bots are taking over and we

01:03:56.809 --> 01:03:58.789
need some favor from them. And only you can provide

01:03:58.789 --> 01:04:01.449
it, dear listener. So please do that and leave

01:04:01.449 --> 01:04:04.750
comments. And also you can email us at shojopod

01:04:04.750 --> 01:04:07.150
at gmail .com if you have things to say to us,

01:04:07.389 --> 01:04:10.469
like what you think everybody in town would be

01:04:10.469 --> 01:04:14.010
doing in shojo verse town, in shojotown. Yeah.

01:04:14.500 --> 01:04:16.159
I can't think of a better pun than that. I think

01:04:16.159 --> 01:04:18.219
Shojoverse is a other podcast, so we can't use

01:04:18.219 --> 01:04:21.300
that. Oh, is that a podcast? I'm pretty sure

01:04:21.300 --> 01:04:30.019
Shojoverse is a podcast, yeah. Sho... Jo... Jojo.

01:04:30.659 --> 01:04:33.000
Village. There's gotta be some pun we can do

01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:35.079
off of this. If you can think of a pun, email

01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:41.460
us at shojopod .gmail .com. Yeah. Anyway. OK.

01:04:41.820 --> 01:04:44.420
Yeah. Or if you want to illustrate our little

01:04:44.420 --> 01:04:46.039
world. What have we learned? What have we learned?

01:04:46.400 --> 01:04:49.780
What did we learn here? I don't know. This is

01:04:49.780 --> 01:04:51.940
your segment. You really run away with it. Really?

01:04:52.179 --> 01:04:55.300
Let's hear it. Yeah. Probably something about

01:04:55.300 --> 01:04:58.619
tactics. Probably something about like maybe

01:04:58.619 --> 01:05:00.659
plan your route. Oscar should have planned the

01:05:00.659 --> 01:05:02.139
route. Maybe she did, though. This is the thing.

01:05:02.260 --> 01:05:03.519
I don't know, because I'd be like, oh, Oscar,

01:05:03.579 --> 01:05:04.960
why didn't you plan your route? But maybe they

01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:07.309
just got cut off. You know what I'm saying? I

01:05:07.309 --> 01:05:09.829
know. I was a little disappointed in Oscar. Like,

01:05:09.929 --> 01:05:12.730
come on, girl. Yeah. You know everything. They

01:05:12.730 --> 01:05:15.369
should have just started. They should have just.

01:05:15.809 --> 01:05:18.150
Well, what? It's hard for me to be critical.

01:05:18.369 --> 01:05:20.429
They should have gotten off the horses and be

01:05:20.429 --> 01:05:23.170
an espionage. Those horses are, you know, you

01:05:23.170 --> 01:05:24.690
can't hide that. Yeah, they should have done

01:05:24.690 --> 01:05:26.530
the hit and run on that first company and then

01:05:26.530 --> 01:05:28.309
they should have gone back to the square. The

01:05:28.309 --> 01:05:29.949
problem is that they stayed off, right? They

01:05:29.949 --> 01:05:32.590
got they got caught out, you know, as they say.

01:05:33.630 --> 01:05:35.780
Don't get caught out. This is what we learned.

01:05:35.840 --> 01:05:37.480
Don't get caught out of position. Always stay

01:05:37.480 --> 01:05:39.099
in position. Always stay near your barricades.

01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:41.119
You know, you got to send the cavalry out, but

01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:43.139
then you got to have a secure route back. You

01:05:43.139 --> 01:05:45.500
know, don't let yourself get too far behind enemy

01:05:45.500 --> 01:05:49.440
lines. Classic cavalry mistake. Don't do it.

01:05:50.579 --> 01:05:53.820
Yep. What Joe said. Anything better than that?

01:05:56.460 --> 01:05:58.780
Don't. Oh, God. If you're pretending you're not

01:05:58.780 --> 01:06:02.739
blind. If you're. Yeah, if you're if you're blind.

01:06:04.139 --> 01:06:07.739
Just don't say anything. Just wait to hear if

01:06:07.739 --> 01:06:11.500
someone says anything. Don't just talk. Because

01:06:11.500 --> 01:06:14.539
what if someone is listening? Oh man, always

01:06:14.539 --> 01:06:18.860
check your blind spot. Yeah. Oh man. They never

01:06:18.860 --> 01:06:21.179
show us what's under - why can't you have a cool

01:06:21.179 --> 01:06:23.699
scar eye? Why they gotta hide that from us? Listen,

01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:27.059
Lazare, your last stand charge sounds cool on

01:06:27.059 --> 01:06:29.199
paper, but it's not gonna get the work done you

01:06:29.199 --> 01:06:30.900
think it's gonna get done. You should just stay

01:06:30.900 --> 01:06:34.119
with the group. It was just a waste. Yep. You

01:06:34.119 --> 01:06:36.239
know, it's a cool scene. Sorry, my guy. But you

01:06:36.239 --> 01:06:41.840
know. Oh, no. Oh, Alon's gonna die. No! Alon

01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:43.980
has to make it. Oh, no. I need Alon to kill a

01:06:43.980 --> 01:06:47.440
guy with his, like, one sword in hand and sheath

01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:50.300
in other hand, because that rules. That's the

01:06:50.300 --> 01:06:53.019
coolest thing that happens in this show. Uh -huh.

01:06:53.460 --> 01:06:57.179
Yeah. Yeah, I hope. Well, because his sister

01:06:57.179 --> 01:06:59.780
and mom are gone, so, like, let's see. He's so

01:06:59.780 --> 01:07:03.280
cool. Yeah. Well. He'll be up there in the character

01:07:03.280 --> 01:07:05.119
rankings when we get this done. Maybe he gets

01:07:05.119 --> 01:07:07.440
away with Bernard and Rosalie, you know? It could

01:07:07.440 --> 01:07:11.460
happen. Nah, he can't third wheel it. Damn, too

01:07:11.460 --> 01:07:13.320
bad Rosalie doesn't have like a sister or something,

01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:18.420
you know? Oh, dang. If only. Nine and more. Yeah.

01:07:19.980 --> 01:07:23.780
She had two, now she has none. Freaking brutal.

01:07:26.460 --> 01:07:30.530
All right, all right, folks. Well, yeah. See

01:07:30.530 --> 01:07:34.309
you next week for the finale finale. Yep. Yeah,

01:07:34.309 --> 01:07:37.989
as we watch episodes 39 and 40 and it all goes

01:07:37.989 --> 01:07:44.150
down happening in a blaze of glory. And we'll

01:07:44.150 --> 01:07:47.909
catch you guys then. Be on the lookout below

01:07:47.909 --> 01:07:51.809
for our Jurassic Park The Lost World bonus episode.

01:07:51.829 --> 01:07:54.570
I got to edit it, but then it'll be out as soon

01:07:54.570 --> 01:07:59.179
as I edit it. Yep. Yep. No rush, but. But if

01:07:59.179 --> 01:08:00.940
it's not out by the finale. You don't have to

01:08:00.940 --> 01:08:05.019
make it until it comes out after Wednesday. Nope,

01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:09.719
you're good. I can't fire you. I have a good

01:08:09.719 --> 01:08:13.000
name. Where am I going to fire another Joe? It's

01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:18.000
a pretty rare name. Alright, okay. Nope. Okay,

01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:34.539
everyone. Bye. Bye. Thank you.
