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Just watched a lot of it. And I am joined, as
always, by Joe, my good friend, and the Shoujo
newcomer, although we have a few under our belt
now. And Joe's the one who's going to be bringing
us the deeper thoughts and insight. And I'm just
like, ah, everyone's so hot. That's part of the
experience. I don't think you should take away
that that's a big part of the Shoujo experience,
is that people are hot. Yeah, I guess so. Uh,
we're both a little, uh, not under the weather
necessarily, but both have afflictions that are
possibly going to make our voices sound a little
different than normal. Yeah. You can tell it's
the, it's the end of winter and you can tell
because I'm getting sick. I have maybe I either
have allergies. or a sinus infection. Jury's
still out because it's only been like this for
like four days. Oh, well, that's a long time.
I've never had a sinus infection, so I cannot
tell you what the science is like. They last
for about 10 days. So if it stops after 10 days,
then it was probably a sinus infection. If it
continues indefinitely, then it's an allergy.
Isn't it fun? Isn't it fun to exist? Like all
these people I know are like, I love nature.
I love going outside. It's like rejuvenating
for me. Don't you just love it, Joe? And every
time I go outside, I'm like, no, I get like I
take damage from something. Like some awful thing
keeps happening to me. Like I just get random
allergies or like I get bit by a bug. I don't
get what I don't see what people get out of it.
To be honest, I think maybe they should grow
up. That's my official stance. I think I'm going
outside. If I live somewhere more tolerable heat
wise, I would enjoy being outside more. but because
it's just the worst thing ever to step outside
most of the time here in Texas that I hate the
outdoors, but maybe deep down, I'm super outdoorsy
and I just don't belong here and I should be
somewhere cold. That's true. You could just be
like horribly unfulfilled. Ever thought about
that? Or it's like in your life. Very much so.
It's been wasted because you haven't gotten to
experience going outside, not in 100 degree heat.
Yes. all the time, constantly thinking about
it. You should free yourself. I can't reach maximum
happiness unless it's like majority of the year.
It's like, even if I'm happy, it's not as happy
as I could be if it was colder outside. So it's
like, I got to get out of here. You got to get
out of there. Yeah, I do. Hopefully within the
next year. We'll see. I think the rules. Like
I may be, the reins may be loosening at work
and I may be able to move somewhere else. Oh,
okay. So I know, right? What if I, and my mom,
every time I mention it to my mom, she's like,
you'll never make it without your family. And
I'm like, that just makes me want to do more
and prove you wrong. Yeah. I get that spite motivation.
Yeah. I literally have a patch on my car that
says fueled by spite. There it is. Yeah. Other
than the ailments, what's going down in Joland?
I keep. OK, so last week, we're just going to
talk about current events a little bit. Someone,
I don't know who it was, decided to put on massive
tariffs on everything and thus has caused me
to expedite every I'm like, I should buy everything
I need. for the next year and a half right now
before they run out of stock and have to import
it. So I have been buying stuff, including the
entirety of the Rose of Versailles manga, which
I now have. I have not looked at any of it yet,
but I do have them. So I've looked at the covers.
So we are very excited about that. Yeah. Yeah,
that's good. I'm trying to think of what else
I should buy real quick. I guess I should buy
a lot of alcohol. Now I'm thinking I need to.
Oh, this is deranged. You don't need to do this.
I don't think this is going to. I mean, this
is a thing where they could just like call off
tariffs tomorrow and I will have just wasted
a bunch of money for no reason. But I did buy
a soundbar because yesterday. Oh, my God, I've
had such a busy every day of my life yesterday.
I watched. No, I had people over to watch The
Matrix two and three, which is reloaded and revolution
resolution or revolution. I don't know. Revolution,
I think. OK. And I was watching those movies
because I am trying to convince my friends that
those movies are good and they have not seen
the Matrix movies in a long time. And having
watched them again, those movies are good, but
too many action sequences. I am actioned out
after watching those action sequences. But it's
a very good movie still. I still like it. I like
the Matrix. I think it's good. I like the power
of choice and love and hope and all of those
things. which might be resonating now a little
bit more than they have been in the past for
reasons that might be related to the first thing
I said. So that was good. And then immediately
after that, I went and hung out with some friends
and they showed me they had me play. Well, first
they showed me Zeno Saga in preparation for me
to play Zeno Blade Chronicles three. So I played
this is a switch game. It's a Switch game. Yeah.
So this is like a long standing series. The Xeno
Saga series. Xeno Saga is like a like a franchise,
I guess, of like games that are like only somewhat
related to each other. And in those, there are
like different like there's the Xeno. Blade games,
there's the Xenoblade Chronicles ones and some
other things like that. So I they had me play
number three. which is the most recent one, it's
on Switch, and it has weird MMO combat that I'm
not so sure I'm on for. But I gave it a shot
and it's pretty fun. So maybe I am on board,
we'll see. The first games are like turn -based
RPGs, which I hate, but I play so many of them
that it will just roll off of me. Because I can
overcome any hardship to play video games. So
I'm about to wrap up. I'm in the last act of
Gears of War tactics, and that will be it for
Gears of War for me. I will have played every
Gears of War game, so I could I could always
take a pick up another franchise. You know, maybe
it's Zeno Saga. Speaking of Switch, what are
your thoughts on the Switch 2 and the $90 price?
Well, besides the fact that it's going to cost
a bajillion dollars, it seems fine. I think turning
the Wii remotes into mice, like a mouse, is interesting.
That's kind of fun, I guess. Oh, I didn't see
that. I don't think I would go out of my way
for any of those games. Yeah. Well, yeah. Not
at the Nintendo, except for Pikmin, which I wouldn't
buy a new console for, but like that's the only
Nintendo property that I or IP that I actually.
Oh, here we go with the voice. It's getting you
too. It's a disaster podcast. You know, Mario,
freaking Donkey Kong, any of that stuff is not
going to do it for me. And then also I have a
Steam deck now. So like if it's available on
Steam, I will play it on that rather than Switch.
So I and they're going to have releases be on
both for a bit. Right. So if it is Switch exclusive,
I can still play it on my Switch. Or no, like.
$90 is insane, and also I don't care about. from
software enough to play whatever that new game
is. The PvPvE game. Let's go player versus player
versus engine. I will wait to see what that is
like. I don't know. Yeah, the cost of this is
absurd for how many games I have in my backlog.
Oh, yeah. I'm like, I could just do that for
the next five years, honestly. That's true. You
know what I'm saying? Like. Yes. Yeah, I don't
know. Like Metroid Prime, I played the first
Metroid Prime, I played like 10 minutes of Metroid
Prime 2 and I'm like, maybe I'm good. It just
doesn't, I don't know, Nintendo games just don't
click for me as much. I am excited about Kirby
Air Ride 2, maybe. That's fun. But I don't know.
I don't think I'd like drop like $400 for any
of these things. Nah, nah, nah. It just doesn't
feel like the move, you know? Yeah. Oh, he just
saw my cat. It's been super on me the last few
days. And I'm like, sometimes I think I'm allergic
and I've mentioned that before. And not only
am I already feeling like a little allergy, whatever,
but that just made it worse, I think. I don't
know. It's deteriorating. Watch us deteriorate
on episode whatever Shoujo. What is this, like
58 or something? Bad thing like that. My voice
is already so nasally. It's just going to be
even worse. It's going to be brutal. I'm sorry
for the sonic experience listeners, but you're
just going to have to push through it. Oh, goodness.
Yeah, I'm trying to. And then, OK, and then.
I. But some of my friends are like going out
to bars or whatever, like they go to like some
of my friends that go out and like party and
do stuff will often end the night at a bar near
me. So I'm like, oh, you should just like text
me. And it's like, you know, depending on what
time it is, maybe I'll go hang out. and they
texted me at like one in the morning and they're
like come out to this bar and i'm like yeah i
told you guys to do this i guess i should go
but then we ended up going to one that was further
away and i ended up staying out until that bar
closed so i stayed until like 2 30 a .m for like
the second night in a row closing out the bar
oh man it's brutal i just keep doing things because
i have all like my friends are just like oh come
out we're doing this thing and i'm like uh i'm
supposed to say yes to social things so i don't
become a hermit at least you have that option
that's true because i'm like I'm gonna die alone
if I never go outside my apartment. I'll never
meet someone but also it's like do I want to
meet someone who's that's what they're What they
do for fun when it's not what I do for fun. Typically,
yeah You just gotta do it. Sometimes you just
gotta do it. All right, and just have friends
first and and freakin prowling lady from that
meetup I went to has not Mm -hmm. You can facilitate
this. You can make this happen. I believe in
you. But yeah, like I said, I'm playing on Friday
too, because I was hanging out with some friends
and then it was like late and I convinced one
of my friends to play Aina Dream Barbecue, the
video game called Aina Dream Barbecue, which
is very good and weird. And I get so excited
anytime I get my friends to try this weird thing
I'm into. So I had to stay up and watch her play
like half of it. And I ended up staying until
like two again. I get no sleep. That's been my
life. I get no sleep and I'm constantly busy,
but I don't ever feel like I'm making any productive
progress on anything. So, oh well, running on
that treadmill, running on that hedonic treadmill,
just always staying in place. I was going to
say it was hedonic, mean. Hedonistic. I don't
know. Something about happiness. It's like that.
It's like that. No, it's like a psychology term
or whatever about like. how your happiness doesn't
increase with like achievement necessarily. Like
when you achieve something, you're like temporarily
happy and then you like reset to whatever your
baseline is. So instead of thinking life is like
a like a continual gradual, I'm getting happier
over time. It's mostly just kind of staying the
same like you're on a treadmill. OK, that makes
sense. Right. I probably didn't describe that
very well, but I think it's something along the
lines of that. I think about that concept all
the time. The good news is that such a deep thinker.
It also works in reverse. So any time bad things
happen, you'll usually reset to your baseline.
So bad things are it's like what like six months
later, the things that are bothering you probably
won't even matter. I tell myself that a lot in
the moment when like something really bad happens
to me. I'm like, you know, I bet in six months,
I won't even remember this happened or I just
won't really care about it. It'll be a distant
memory. And that usually is true. Nice. Now I
feel like I'm a I don't know. I don't think I
have a massive ego, but also I'm just like, oh,
everyone's just going to think of that when they
think of me, if they witnessed that bad thing.
Oh, and I'll just think that. Yeah. Oh, dear.
Okay, so your life sounds exhausting. Yeah, I'm
tired. Mine's been like the reverse where I like,
well, I had a three day weekend. I had Friday
off since it was first Friday, which is a great
thing. If you have a company, I think having
the first Friday of a month is a great like perk.
It's just one day of the month and it's really
lovely. What is what have I been doing? OK, no,
I wrote down so I could say I have I did things.
OK, first off. Got a home for the dog, so he's
out of here. So it's just me, Cricket and Moxie
again. It's super chill now. And I did a deep
clean like Friday was half napping, half like
deep cleaning my entire apartment. So now it's
all clean. It's all calm. And but in that calmness
now, I'm like, OK, what am I doing with myself
now? Let's see. I started playing that repo game
a little bit, and it's not as scary as I thought
it would be. But I think like with the right
and I've played a little bit with other people.
I think with like the we should get the server
to try it. It's only 10 bucks, but. It's like
a fun game with friends. I'm like the last survivor
a lot of the time, which doesn't mean I'm good.
It just means I was probably fighting and everyone
else got killed and then I had to do something.
Let's see. I also started up Children of Zodiacs.
I think that's the name. On my switch, I literally
only played like the first little encounter,
but it's like a turn based strategy or yeah,
come out. You know, like like Fire Emblem or
something. Oh, it's like a tactics game. Yeah,
like a great base tactics game. Yeah, I like
those a lot. And then I I went there's this thing
on Thursday night like. I don't know if you remember
or if you ever went to Mozart's, but it's like
this place on the lake. That's a coffee joint.
But yeah, they were having a like movies on the
lake night playing Jurassic Park. So I was like,
OK, I have to go. So, yeah. So I went with a
friend and we got like a little like enjoined
to see their floaty thing. And it was that night.
And freaking water was cold. And then the whole
time I was just like shivering. My teeth are
chattering and it's so cold. It's so cold. But
like, it was fun. It was fun. No, but it was
like so cold. It's very distracting when you're
cold. Last time I did something like this was
when the Meg came out and now I'm a draft house.
I've done like a movie on the lake thing. At
least the seats from this Jurassic Park one had
like a mesh under it so you aren't entirely in
the water. But but for the the mag, it was like
just fully in the water. Yeah. And it's so cold.
Why are we doing this so early in the year? Let's
do this like when it's tolerable at night. And
the summer or something, it's so hard to focus
when you're so cold. Yeah, that would be hard.
Endurance movie. Yes. At least it's a movie.
And then floaty cat like moving in the water.
And there was like this little rope that we were
just like clenching our toes on to keep us in
place. And it was like a whole like work together
to stay oriented towards the screen. So it's
like a challenge, but it's like watching a movie
normally is so boring. What if you had to like
do a little task and also do a little endurance
while doing it? Uh huh. Wouldn't that be fun?
Was it like was it sold out? Was there a bunch
of people or? There's a lot of people because
right, you could do like the free seating on
the deck or if you if you got like a because
you can either do a tube or paddle board. I was
like, a paddle board doesn't sound very comfortable
to sit on for like the duration of a movie. And
also, I don't I've never been on a paddle board,
so I don't have confidence. No one no one wiped
out, though. So it was good. Let's see. What
else? Oh, and OK. And then I learned I had my
sister asked me to make the little invite graphic
for her bachelorette trip. So I did. And it had
like. night themes. So you're going to be there
a certain number of days. And one was lingerie.
One was pink and one was sparkles. And I was
like, what the hell is lingerie? We're not having
to wear lingerie at this thing, are we? And then
I am. And my friend explained to me that it was
like everyone buys. lingerie for the bride and
she like tries them on and this and that and
I was like, okay, I have no idea. This is the
thing. Will my sister be able to tell if I get
lingerie off a sale rack, you think? Like mine
won't be the best, right? So I'll just get her
something and then all her friends will pick
cuter ones. Cuter ones. Uh huh. Okay. I've never
heard of this either, really. I know. Well, that's
a thing, I guess. They don't do this at bachelor
parties, is what I'll tell you. I wonder that
the bachelor parties you're going to are like,
typical. We're not buying the boys boxers and
having them try it on, you know? Uh -huh. Well,
what have you done on your bachelor trips? What?
What have we done? How many have you? Let's see.
One time I went to Vegas. I mean, mostly it's
like you go somewhere and just like do some stuff
at that place. Like, I don't think there's any,
like, structured thing I've done every single
time. You know what I mean? Like, there's no,
I don't think it's like a bachelor. party tradition
that like, oh, everybody has to do this part.
Well, people just think of like going to a strip
joint is like the thing that you do on a bachelor
trip. But I feel like even that isn't that common.
No, I've never done that. I've never been to
a strip club. I don't know. But it's like I haven't
had the opportunity. It will never come up to.
I don't know. I've been to clubs and dancers.
That's about as close as you get. But that's
like, I know. I went to one. Scandalized. I was
like, oh, my gosh. You're scandalized. Oh, man.
Basically, this is years ago. I can't lose. I'm,
you know. Yay. Take what your mama gave you.
Let's see. I think that's it. Oh, and then we
had this cool thing come out in the game. It
was like our little April Fools thing. Is that
April Fool's? I think I've been the one making
the thing for it where the first year we were
like jokingly doing like money, like walk about
bucks or something as like our we're going to
have in game transactions or something was our
April Fool's. And then we did like this game,
this course upside down. I come out and it was
like a lot more divisive than we thought. And
so we were like, April Fools are making a second
one of those that a lot of people didn't like.
And then this year it's, oh, and then last year
it was like, you guys want legs for your avatars
and games. So we just made like little legs that
stick out of the avatar head instead of like
where they would be. And these have all just
been like fictional, like make a graphic to like
show, but it's not actually in the game. But
this year we did put it in the game and it's
called because like we have grip to putt where
you like hold the grip so you don't accidentally
hit the ball when you're putting. But we've done
grip to puppet where you like can hold your thing
and then a sock puppet will be on your hand and
you can make the mouth move and stuff. Oh, that's
really good. So that's like, yeah, that's fine.
That's in the game right now. It was a cute little
kind of droopy looking sock puppet. And so that's
been a fun thing that came out. And yeah, that's
that's what I have been up to. Yeah, that's good.
Yeah, a lot of stuff. You're making it sound
like you don't do anything. That's a lot of stuff.
Well, that's because I had to specifically write
down this stuff. I feel like I need to do that
just like because I'll get to the end of the
week. I'm like, I don't think I did anything
at all this week. And then I'm like, oh, wait,
I watched four movies this week. But I would
have never. Oh, and I started watching the first
season of Survivor. I was like first. Yeah, the
very first one. And they have to have like like
long sections where they explain the rules for
the first time and everyone's like, wow, the
rules. Well, they have like little prerecorded
segments, which they don't have nowadays. But
like, you know, every whatever they got to do
a reward challenge, this and that and. Uh, but
it's not too long, but it's weird because like
Jeff Probst, the host is so young. Oh, uh -huh.
This is like 25 years ago and now he's... Has
he been hosting it the whole time? Yes! We're
at season 48 right now. Stable job. For real.
That's a good gig to get. They do like a podcast
with it now that he does too. I don't know how,
what he was doing, like... What are people doing
beforehand before they become a host? Like, I
remember the host of The Biggest Loser used to
be on, like, Days of Our Lives or some soap opera
like that, and then she became the host of that.
And Julie Chen from Big Brother used to be a
newscaster. So I guess just some kind of, like...
The guy who does Family Feud, it's Drew Carey,
right? You're not Family Feud. The Price is right.
He was a comedian before that. Okay. Yeah. Well,
I know about him. He was dating this chick who
was like a sex therapist and they had broken
up and then she ended up getting murdered by
like a stalker or something. I did not know that.
These are the fun facts that I know is horrible
things. That's all I know about that guy. Interesting.
OK. Yeah. All right. OK. Moving on to our show.
That's us. We should talk about the show. Hey,
a lot of stuff happens in these episodes that
I was not expecting to have happen. For real.
Really, I took some turns here in some ways.
Yep. Yep, yep. Exciting stuff. Let's go. The
Rose of Versailles, episode 28. It's called Andre,
a green lemon, which I guess means it's not ripe.
OK, I was going to say, I don't know a green
lemon. It's too ripe. I wasn't sure if it was.
It's not ready. Yeah, I don't quite understand
this. Is this like a phrase? Should I look this
up? Look this up while I'm giving the summary.
OK, we open on Andre struggling to see out of
his good eye. His vision is very blurry. Elsewhere
Oscar searches for Andre but cannot find him
and Andre tells her to wait for him until his
vision gets better as the OP plays. We return
to some carriages rushing to Versailles, count
first and sees a commotion and asks what's going
on and we learn that the prince is sick and everyone
is very nervous about it. Marie tells her son
Joseph that it'll be okay. I'm sorry it's um
Louis Joseph just in case you were concerned
about the fact that his name isn't Louie, but
we're going to call him Joseph. But a sick Joseph
calls out to his dad instead of her. Marie tells
him that his father will be there soon. She leaves
and goes to the chapel. She prays and says that
despite the fact that she spends every day with
Joseph, he still calls out for his father. She
asks if he is being punished for her sins. And
she says that if she is forgiven, she will never
see first and again. Right behind her in the
doorway stands Furson, who hears everything.
Did that change her voice actress? She sounds
so different now. And she looks way more, she
looks way older now. Like she's not as like,
roundy face and yeah. But her voice sounds different.
Also, I looked up green lemon. Yeah. But yeah,
like harvested before their ripen. It can also
refer to a specific variety 11 from Hiroshima,
Japan, known for its intense fragrance and spicy
flavor. OK, that actually makes sense. I mean,
it's all you think. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's
a Japanese show. So that's true. Yeah. So maybe
that's what it's referring to. Spicy. I don't
know if it really makes sense again. Anyway,
she's she's dumping fursin for her for her sick
boy. They're not doing anything anyways. Not
that we know of. They're just looking at each
other. It's true. Back of the jargees, Andre
is still struggling to see. Oscar comments that
it looks like the prince has gotten better and
it was just a one -off thing. Surely he won't
succumb to illness at age nine. Andre asks Oscar
to spar because he's having trouble judging depth
with his one eye. They spar and Andre beats,
no, Oscar beats Andre handedly while he struggles
to see properly. Furson shows up at Oscar is
very happy to see him. OK, pissing me off. Furson,
you suck. Crawling back to Oscar because you're
feeling all down about bringing Antoinette and
I feel like he got he has to know how she feels
about him. So he's just a piece of shit. Mm hmm.
That's that's how we're at it. I need some validation
from somebody. Awful. Oscar and Furson have a
drink together. Furson asks Oscar when the last
time they saw each other was, and Oscar thinks
about the dance they shared a couple of episodes
back. Oscar asks Furson how things are going
for him, and he says he has no updates. So I
guess we're not talking about this. They sit
there and swirl their drinks in silence. Then
Furson tells - Swirling like savages. Yeah, they
were like going hard with the swirls. They're
like holding it, like, not how you're supposed
to hold a wine glass. I don't - I don't know
if it's what, because it's like a brownish color.
So I couldn't tell if it's supposed to be like
brandy or something. I don't know. Like port?
I don't know. What do people drink? Isn't it
a wine glass? It's been a wine glass and they're
like airing it out. I don't think you need to
air out those other things. Well, you're supposed
to hold it by like half the stem and the the
top part, but they're both just holding it on
the top part, not touching the stem at all. It's
weird. Yes! Yeah. Then Furson tells Oscar about
that one ball he went to and danced with a woman
that seemed very similar to him or to her. She's
like, hey, you know anything about that, Oscar?
Oscar stays silent and puts down her glass. Furson
suddenly reaches out and grabs her wrist, and
Oscar flinches in the exact same way that she
did during the dance. Furson is like, I knew
it. It was you, Oscar. And Oscar says nothing
and instead runs off as Andre enters the room.
Did he really come here just to start some shit?
Well, he said, like, because he didn't see the
lady again. So it's like he had specifically
been looking for this lady. But it's like, why
are you looking for this lady when you're like
devoted summary Internet and not going to give
who you know to be Oscar a chance? So why? No,
brutal. She runs out of the door. No, she runs
out to the door of the horse stables first and
pursues. He tells her that maybe if he had known
that she was a woman from the beginning things
might have worked out and Oscar is like Sorry
Oscar is like stop talking stop saying things
to me person She says that she's already come
to terms with this Then she says that there are
two kinds of love in the world, a love filled
with joy and a love filled with agony. Then Fersen,
having just been dumped by Marie, says no, there
is only one kind of love. It's all agony. And
they both start crying. I just, I'm just mad
at Fersen. Like, if you had met her, you saw,
you were blinded by Marie Antoinette's beauty.
Yep. Like, I don't think, if you had known Oscar,
Was a woman or like if Oscar had attended that
masquerade ball dressed up as a lady next to
Marie Antoinette You think he would have picked
her over her. I feel like I don't know. It's
so it's so weird to have this conversation about
about this when they're both they're both available
now. Yeah. Yeah. Stupid. Dumb. But now now it's
over. Makes me so mad. Back Oscar says that she
knew that this would happen eventually. This
is the end of them. Fersen tells Oscar again
that she is his greatest friend, and she says
she will remember as they both part ways. Oscar
turns to watch him as he goes and prays for his
good fortune. Oscar returns to the estate to
clean things up, because she like made a mess
during her escape while the OP song plays. Montage!
OK, I was like, why are we playing? That's like
very season finale when you play the opening
song at the... In the episode. I mean, this is
big stuff. I guess. This is like a season turning
episode. Andre asks if she needs help, but she
says no, and he leaves, but his eyes start acting
up again. He falls, but can't get up this time.
He reaches out for the light of a candle, and
in his mind, he begs Oscar to help him. How sad.
Later, Andre goes into the stable and trips.
He gets it together, then rides off to the pub.
Terrible idea. Off to drink my sorrows away.
At the pub, several French Guard soldiers are
drinking and singing together. One of them sees
the sad Andre and invites them to drink with
them. We learn that this guy's name is Alain,
and he's the de facto boss of these guys. Andre
joins them, and they all sing together. Later
at the pub, everyone is drunk. Alain tells Andre
that today is payday, so they're gonna go wild.
Unlike the Royal Guard, the French Guard is made
up of commoners who are just doing this as a
job. But they have to patrol the dangerous parts
of Paris, so it's still like a like a fairly
dangerous job. A ruckus breaks out and everyone
starts a pub brawl. Everyone gets sucked into
it, including Andre, and they all have a good
time wailing on each other. No, property damage
like, oh yeah, ban these people from your pub,
man. Dude, they go to they go to this pub like
the next day. They just know this is what happens.
Later, Andre goes home drunk. He thinks to himself
that no amount of drinking will return the light
to him. One day he'll be blind and won't be able
to see Oscar anymore, and he cries out in agony.
Andre returns to the Georges' manor to find Oscar
waiting up for him by the fireplace. She scolds
him for coming in late, and he asks if she's
up because she couldn't sleep either. Oscar suddenly
tells Andre that she's gonna leave the Royal
Guard. Crazy. Because, uh, what? Crazy. Game
changing. I know, here we go. This is the big
thing that changes. We cut to Oscar at Versailles
kneeling before a stunned Marie. Marie is like,
I'm sorry, what did you just say? You're going
to quit the Royal Guard? Like the cushy job you
have? Why? Oscar says that she wants this one
and only favor from Marie, but she isn't going
to explain why she wants it. And Marie is like,
that makes no sense. Is it me? Did I do something?
You know how sometimes I do things and don't
realize it? Is that what's happening here? I
can just promote you if you just want to get
promoted. But Oscar reassures her that she's
going to stay loyal to Marie and this isn't about
her. Marie is like, all right, fine, I'll grant
you your wish. I'll find some other place to
reassign you. Later, Oscar rides around on her
horse while Andre watches. He wonders why Oscar
would leave the Royal Guards. Is it because you
can't stand to see Marie, the woman that Furson
loves? So what? You're just going to run away?
Just like how Furson ran away to America? You're
going to do that, but switch jobs? You think
it's that easy just to run away from things?
If it were that easy, Oscar, I would have ran
away from you forever ago. Andre and Oscar return
to the stables. Oscar is like, hey, Andre, remember
when we were kids and we used to mark our height
on this part of the stable? And they see little
scratches of how tall they got. And she says
that back then, she had just accepted that she
was a boy. She never thought about things like
love, you know, that womenly stuff. She was raised
as a boy, so it makes sense that she would live
the rest of her life as a man then. That's why
she's going to leave the rail guards, she declares,
to live like a man. She'll forget all of her
womanly emotions and will focus only on the mission
like a true man does. I'll risk my life for duty
and honor without love or romance. It'll be just
like the good old days. Andre just looks on and
she says this and then leaves. A lot of stuff
going down here. Boy, is she in for a surprise.
There's not going to be a whole lot of honor
and duty where she's going. I think she's also
going to be surprised by the fact that The men
still engage in romance and love. I don't think
that just ends. Yep. Just reverting back. We're
not, we're not growing. We're just going to revert
back to... Oh, no, this is hard, Cope. Like what
if I just threw myself into my job and didn't
consider... What if I just do the extremely toxic
masculinity thing where I just not think about
my emotions, instead just cover them up forever?
What if I never process anything for all time?
Got that part right about being a dude. Yeah,
it works out so well for them. Suddenly, Andre's
vision blurs and he calls out to Oscar. Oscar
returns, but Andre has recovered by them and
acts as if nothing has happened because, boy,
we don't want to see anybody. We don't want to
be vulnerable in front of anybody, I guess. Back
inside, Oscar is playing piano. Andre's lounging
around when Granny asks him if he went to see
the doctor. Andre says that he did go to see
the doctor, but it was just to say thank you
instead of, you know, going for an actual reason,
which was to check on his eye. We get a flashback
of the doctor's visit where the doctor tells
him that, like, physically, nothing should be
wrong with his other eye. It shouldn't be like
he shouldn't be losing vision in it or anything.
Maybe it's just like strained or something, because,
you know, you're using it a lot for the first
time. Andre just tries to get a drink, but Granny
tells him to bring Oscar tea first. I thought
he was going to like. break it, and then that
was going to reveal his eye thing. Oh, then he's
injured or his eye is broken. Just dump hot tea
on Oscar or something. Yeah, that would have
been, that probably would have been better than
what does happen. Yep. Man. Andre, let's see,
takes the tea to Oscar. She takes it and tries
to leave, or no, Andre tries to leave, but she
stops him. She tells him that she is going to
live as a man from now on and can't rely on him
anymore. So after she gets her transition changed
to her post, what am I saying? She gets her new
job. When she gets her new job, he's free to
do whatever he wants. She wants to be totally
independent now, so he doesn't have to keep following
her around. Andre just watches on as Oscar walks
into her bedroom. He follows and tells her that
he has something to say. He says that a rose
is a rose, whether it blooms red or white. Oscar
turns as if he had just like cursed at her or
like like Struck her first board or something.
He continues saying that a rose can never be
a lilac Oscar is incensed and gets in his face.
She's like, what are you saying? Andre you saying
that'll always be a woman You don't think I could
be a man just by getting a new job He doesn't
answer so Oscar slaps him across the face and
grabs him by the collar. She's like answer me
damn it I'm like, dude, his eyeballs are sensitive.
Don't be slapped in that face. Yeah, she slapped
his bad eye side. Instead of answering her, he
grabs her wrists and she's like, hey, let go.
And then he forces himself onto her into, I guess,
a kiss. Is that what he's doing here? I think
if it was a kiss, they would have shown it. I
feel like it's it's unclear. It's something like
that. He pushes her down on the bed, she says
stop or I'll scream, but then he rips her blouse.
They both look on in horror at what is happening.
Oscar turns her head, now tearing up, and asks
Andre what he's gonna do to her. He drops the
ripped cloth and apologizes, saying that he swears
to God he'll never do something like this again.
He drapes a sheet over the now trembling Oscar
and leaves. but repeats that a rose is a rose.
Oscar, you will always be Oscar. I have yearned
for you for 20 years. I love you. Or maybe I
couldn't help but love you. And then walks off
as we cut to credits. Yeah, this was a crazy
ending to an episode. Is this a show for children?
This is the most like this is like just like
drama. Like I would see this on like TNT or something.
You know what I mean? They show Joe is like for
like 12 to. Yeah. 18 maybe. It's not like they
show anything, but like the implications are
quite dark. Oh, yeah. It's. What's going on this
episode? Yeah. Do we hate Andre now? What is
happening? Do we hate Andre now? This is certainly
the worst way you could ever do anything. Andre,
what? Yeah, oh It's all agony. They really lean
into like all love is agony. Actually, none of
these people can behave None of them can just
get over things What if you like just had to
what if you had to prove someone's gender by
sexually assaulting them? Terrible. All right
God why I feel like none of the things she said
would Be like upsetting enough to him to make
him go into like a blind not I don't know rage,
but like horse Like I unnecessary level we're
bringing it to I'm comfy Yes Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Well, so there's like the two different I guess
we should talk about the stuff in order, right?
So like first thing gets abandoned And then he
goes to Oscar practically kind of like baiting
her into like what? Just to make himself feel
better. Like at least somebody wants me or something.
She's like not a rebound because he's not going
to do anything. I wonder Oscar doesn't. But he
is going to bring it up. It's just a dude of
like, let's just be nothing. Let's not take any
action in anything, but also at least make sure
everyone else isn't comfortable as I am. Right.
So first, giving nothing, doing nothing productive
for anybody. Oscar's reaction to this is to basically
be in denial about her feelings about things
and just like, I'm just not going to process
this. I'm going to do the manly thing, which
is to just distract myself for all time and never
think about my feelings or never work through
my feelings, because that's women's stuff. Only
women think about love. Isn't that right, Andre?
She says to him, basically. Yeah, I... Like,
just think about it. Person's not great. He kind
of sucks. That would make it easier to get over
if you just think about the situation and how
he used you. And then there's Andre, who is like,
oh, I'm going blind in both eyes now for some
reason, because the woman I love is so... Outside
of my ability to have her that I'm going to lose
that light forever as she decides to become a
man and abandoned me and what other way can I
express that then? Violently assaulting her as
a thing that I want for myself Let me show you
that you're a woman by exerting my male strength
against you So you can't deny it Do we think
Andre can just overpower Oscar like that? It's
it's tough, right? Like I mean, I guess if it's
like going by the rules of swordsmanship and
stuff and playing it fair, then that requires
maybe more skill than just brute strength, but
and maybe just in like your physical force. It's
not I don't know. Women are typically stronger
in the legs than arms and dudes are the opposite.
I know, but it's like the way that Oscar responds
to this is very. Maybe she's just more shocked
that he's doing it. Yeah, it's got to be a shock
response because it's Andre. Like if it was somebody
else, because the next episode, she kicks a guy's
ass pretty handedly. You know what I'm saying?
But even like her just being stunned and being
like, what are you going to do to me does not
sound like a thing Oscar would say. But I guess
it's the stunness, right? It's the escalation
of the situation. It's the fact that she's in
this position that she like shouldn't be in if
she's a man. Right. But like is not only this
is happening with Andre, this is also flying
in the face of what she is like declaring about
herself. Yeah, I just I think the solution would
be Oscar. accepts being a woman, but being a
woman doesn't have to make you be a certain way.
You can still be an individual and you choose
who you are regardless of your gender and just
be like, I'm a badass woman. Kick your ass, dude.
And it doesn't matter that I'm a chick. Yeah.
I mean, I feel like that's an extremely modern
sensibility thing to have. I guess so. As opposed
to like what's happening here. Oh. But yeah,
I mean, that is the answer, right? Like that
is that is the where this arrives. logically.
Oh, OK. It's like, oh, God. Then we don't even
see Andre necessarily express regret about that
after the immediate like he apologizes that like
he regrets it, it seems like. Yes, but I feel
like that doesn't make it right. It doesn't fix
it. Well, OK. OK, maybe. Yeah, I think my opinion
of Andre is decreasing because then. Oh, yeah.
His next episode, so you just very see that,
like, he's not going to leave her alone. And
that's not a healthy thing to do if someone is
very clearly not interested. Andre's ability
to deal with this, where he's just like, oh,
what, you're going to run away, Oscar? I'm not
going to run away. I'm going to get extremely
drunk and then assault you. It's not better.
No. Is it no way any better? Like there is a
lack of self -awareness. of, like, inability
to process your feelings, that nobody is going
to process them and they're just going to wait
till the last second for it to blow up. Because
this happens because she tells him that she's
going to be on her own and that he's going to
be by himself, like she's going to leave. She
said he doesn't have to, but I guess she should
have stated, like, I do not want you to follow
me. I want to be independent, not that she's
giving him an out to keep following him. Not
that I think it would have changed how he's behaving
if she had said, leave me alone. No, yeah, but
that's what I'm. Yeah. Anyways. OK, we're going
to be honest forever. Oh, because it's brutal.
I mean, this is this is huge. This is like this
is like redefining everyone's relationship with
each other. Yeah. But I guess we'll go on to
episode 30 where things do not really get that
much better. Episode 30 is called a doll starting
to walk. We open on General Jarjay's looking
for Oscar. He can't find her and Andre tells
him that she went on a ride He asked Andre why
she quit the Royal Guard and Andre says he doesn't
know but also tells him that she Has dismissed
him as his as her aid so he's probably not going
to know so maybe don't ask me about this this
episode 29 Oh, yeah, this is episode 29. I read
the wrong one episode 29 is called a doll starting
to walk Which is a good title good title God.
The narrator tells us that after her break with
Furson, Oscar is trying to change herself to
be more like a man, no longer being a doll that
decorates Versailles as the OP plays. Is that
what we thought Oscar was? A doll? I mean, the
whole like, it seems like there's like being
in the mills or the Royal Guard or whatever does
not seem like a, you know, only on occasion.
Are you like doing anything? Like working on
a specific thing? It's kind of just standing
around and like the presence is the most important
thing and not like what they're actually doing.
So I can see it being more like just a, Ian,
I don't like, right? Like there's not this much
purpose, seemingly, for how much drive Oscar
has. Yeah. And like, you know, people have always
kind of regarded her as like a little oddity.
That's kind of fun. Like they've always been
amused by the fact that she is a woman that's
like has a man's job and dresses like a man and
all other stuff. Yeah. Like they acknowledge
that she's legit. Right. Like nobody respects
her like her authority or her abilities or whatever.
But like it is still very much like a little
oh, it's like, oh, yeah, this is the fun little
thing. Like it harks back to when what? Jean
was saying during the trial where she's like,
oh, yeah, this is like she's like Maria's little
play thing that just like hangs out and does
this thing. I mean, that's not totally off, but
it's also like, I mean, Marie is also kind of
a doll in Versailles, right? Like she's the queen
and does stuff. She also has to like perform
and look good and do all this other stuff. I
mean, they're kind of all like that there. Yes.
Yes. Well, it's like the whole. Yeah. Versailles
is like. Not doing. the ideal thing, so it's
easy to dismiss them. Well, it's all just facade
there. Yeah. Speaking of Versailles, we cut to
Versailles, where Oscar is assigned to be the
commanding officer of French Guard Company B.
Marie wrote this or wrote that this is the only
open position at the moment. But if Oscar wants
something else, she'll find her another position.
But Oscar is like, that's great. Yeah, love that.
I'll just take this position. It's fine. The
Royal Guard sees Oscar off. Ghirardel and some
guards demand to know why she is resigning. They're
like, is it something we did? Are you like mad
at us? But she says no and also provides no further
information. She tells Ghirardel that he'll be
in charge after her and then leaves. Oscar walks
out to see Andre with her horse. They stare at
each other as Andre remembers him assaulting
her in the previous episode. Oscar mounts up
and tells Andre without looking at him that until
her new job starts, she's going to be staying
at their villa in Normandy. And from now on,
he is no longer to accompany her. She then adds
that she is not angry about the other night,
but also refuses to remember it. We get the rest
of the assault scene again as Andre watches Oscar
write off. So I guess that's how we're handling
that. We're not going to process that either.
No, no, no. We're just going to forget that it
happened, says Oscar, and I'm sure she totally
is going to forget that. I'm sure everybody here
is not going to remember that moment. The most
important moment. Fester, yeah. God. In Normandy,
the narrator tells us that Oscar is thinking
about the different kinds of love. The love that
Andre had for her was the same that she had for
Furson. Because of this, she knew that the best
thing for Andre was to distance herself from
him, just how Furson distanced himself from her.
Technically, it's not the same because Andre
actually knows you as a person. Instead of the
like, Nothing is happening between us person
like Weird. I don't know. Why is she like him
so much? Why does she like person? Yeah Yeah
Find him very unlikable now I was fooled by his
pretty looks at first but I was also a victim
of person Yeah, no, it is not. They're not like
at all. Oscar did not grow up with Ferson to
be his like right hand. Not the same. But she
doesn't know that, I guess. And also, distancing
himself didn't really work because as soon as
he came back from the American Revolution, she
fell right back into it, baby. Right back into
place. At night, Andre goes and hangs out with
the pirate man. We acknowledge him. They hang
out. He's here. Mr. Pirate is like, oh, hello,
my fellow disabled comrade. I see that you're
blind in one eye. I have a peg leg. You also
have an eyepatch on, so I feel like that's also
a common trait. He comments that Andre seems
to be having some love troubles. He says people
see two types of light, physical light and the
light of hope in other people's hearts. Eyes
are nothing but an accessory. Andre, which one
of those lights are you blind to, my boy? But
Andre gets up and leaves as Mr. Pirate tells
him to be happy. Instead of doing that, Andre
goes to the bar to get drunk. Alain shows up
and is like, oh, hey, man, let's go to a different
bar. This one's super dead. But then one of his
fellow soldiers is like, Alain, we got to go
on patrol. And Alain is like, yeah, fine, and
starts to leave. But Andre stops him and asks
if he's in the French Guard. Alain's like, oh
yeah, man, I'm in company B. And Andre is like,
company B. And then he asks him for a favor.
We cut to the French guard barracks. Oscar is
there a day early to get a lay of the land. We
meet Colonel Dugust, the Lieutenant Commander,
who's an old looking guy with a mustache who
has basically no authority as far as I can tell.
Absolutely not. Oscar asks to take a look at
the troops barracks. In the barracks, all the
troops are hanging out. They get word that the
commander is coming and try to scramble to become
presentable. Oscar shows up and inspects the
men. She introduces herself to them, but is surprised
to see that André is among her troops. Later
in her office, Oscar questions André as to why
he's here. Why did you join the French Guard?
And André says that, well, I'm allowed to do
whatever I want, right? And I wanted to be here
in the French Guard with my buddy, Alain. Also,
I'm the only one who could protect you, Oscar,
which is a weird thing to say after what I did
last episode, but I'm saying it out loud here.
Oscar is like, yeah, whatever. Do whatever you
want. Fine. No, it's creepy. Like, it's bad.
My God. Vibes are bad. You're nothing, Andre.
You're becoming like, this is too much, my man.
Oh, awful. While walking back, Andre hears the
men gossip that Oscar is actually a woman. They're
not gonna take orders from a woman. Alain is
like, yeah, this is certainly a weird situation,
but doesn't really comment any further. In the
dead of night, Alain wakes Andre up to go on
patrol. They walk the wall, but Alain immediately
takes a break because nothing happens at night.
Alain's like, hey, Andre, you told me that you're
a carpenter's son, but that's a total lie, isn't
it? And Andre's like, uh. But then Alain continues
pulling out a knife, saying that he hates nobles,
and André smells like a noble. André says that
he's not a noble, and Alain's like, okay, then
why'd the commander call you into her office,
huh? André doesn't say anything, and Alain warns
him that the company has many men who hate the
nobles far more than him, so he should watch
his back. At the Jargeres estate, Granny asks
Oscar where André is, and she tells him that
he joined the French Guard, because apparently
he didn't tell Granny about that. But also don't
worry, he's a man just like me. Says Oscar, so
he'll be fine Andre is like Spiraling like out
of control like he's just Not terrible Like oh
it's all about the future at all. No Spiraling
Everybody is on one and it's terrible. Oh my
god Oscar mounts up for the in the inaugural
troop review. She gets to the grounds and sees
that the men aren't there Andre walks up and
says the men are skipping the review because
they don't want to take orders from a woman.
Oscar goes to the troop barracks. She demands
that the men go to the troop review right now.
Alain tells her that the men aren't going to
take orders from a woman. This company has a
reputation of being rough and Oscar is like,
oh yeah, I'm pretty used to roughness myself.
And then she challenges them to send their best
men to fight her one v one and leaves. The men
elect Alain, but he refuses, being like, I don't
really want to fight a woman and also I'm trying
to be mysterious. So instead it goes to some
big dude. Oh, God. At the grounds, Oscar and
this big dude are going to have a sword fight.
Oscar says that if she loses, she'll resign,
but if she wins, they have to do the troop review.
The fight starts. The big guy is pretty good,
but Oscar is better. She cuts him and wins. He's
angry at his loss and tries to attack her from
behind, or when her back is turned, but she strikes
him with the butt of her sheath, totally owning
him and he falls. The other men are about to
gang up on her, but Alon calls them off saying
that she won fair and square, so they're going
to do the troop review. Can we talk about another?
This enormous man doing multiple flips in the
air. Like, dude, this guy is spry. He does like
a backflip. I was like, oh, shit, this guy's
got moves. It's awesome. I don't know what's
doing this in real life. Maybe it's like this.
Maybe the French card is like this. The Black
Knight, like these literal like back flips in
the air. But this guy did like two. It's crazy.
It's good. Alon then reminds Oscar that they're
not in the military to protect the nobles or
the royal family. This is just a job to them.
And then they all do the troop review. Back at
the Jarjay's. Mm hmm. Sorry, I was going to say,
I mean, yes, the right. It would be expected
that these guys are like, you know, a woman.
I'm not going to take orders from a woman, but
also it's like absurd for Oscar to like come
in on. Requested and like expect them to you
know, like this is some noble that just like
I don't know on a whim is changing to this and
so I don't know I could see it being That is
military, baby If I guess so, but like oh I get
to I just get to request where I go and you know
out of nowhere kind of Yeah, it's I mean, this
is why they were fragging officers in the Vietnam
War, because some guy shows up at a West Point
and is like, I'm in charge of you guys, and then
gets some of your buddies killed, and you're
like, you're not in charge anymore. We're just
dying. Back at the George A's, Granny informs
Oscar that she has a guest. She goes to see who
it is, and it's Ghirardel, and she's like, oh,
hey, Ghirardel, what's up? How's the Royal Guard
doing? But Ghirardel's acting all weird and says
he came to make a personal request of her father,
and he's not going to stay long. And she's like,
oh, but I thought you were waiting for me. And
he's like, yes. But seeing your smile was enough
for me today. And Oscar is like. OK, and then
he walks off. She asks Granny what he wanted,
and she tells her that Ghirardel was asking permission
to marry her as we cut to credits. OK, this makes
me so mad. Like you're all. God, Garedel, you
suck too. Like, oh, yeah. Oh, my God. You should
know Oscar well enough. And like, it's so disrespectful.
Oh, gross. Oh, it's so funny that he used to
be her subordinate and then gets promoted and
he's like, yeah, I could I could be your husband
now. Oh, that's reasonable. Makes me so mad.
Oh. Oh, man, I do like I do like seeing Oscar
being good at sword fighting. I do like her owning
this huge guy multiple times. That's good. What
do we think is going on with Alain? Maybe he's
a part of that. Maybe he gets recruited for the
revolution. I don't know. I think he's just they
have to have some distinct character within the
French Guard. They can't all just be blobby brutes.
Yeah, well, it's interesting because he is like
much more of a savvy operator, right? He's like,
yeah taking orders from a woman. That's not great
The boys aren't happy about that. But then it's
like I don't know if he really cares about that
all that much Because as soon as she wins, he's
like, I mean she won me some agenda We don't
know about and so that's why he's dismissed it
because this is like being in the French Guard
is not his main priority And it's just like a
step to get to something else. Maybe Yeah Yep,
he's got super distinct. Yep. Oh, yeah, the collection.
He has got a distinct look to him. Yep. Anymore
thoughts about this episode? Yeah, we need more
brown eyes. The color brown eyes they have in
this are very nice. So we just everyone has like
that brown eyes. Mm hmm. Now, just the anger
towards dudes. Just like, you know, that no Oscar
and no how Oscar would feel about this and is
doing it regardless is so disrespectful. Ultimate
betrayal by Ghirardel pissing me off. We're all
men now. We're all doing the manly thing of not
thinking about our emotions or other people's.
Just just all domination. All force. No, no feeling.
Yeah. Alright episode 30 is called you are the
light and I am the shadow we open on a recap
of the Ghirardel events of last episode Oscar
returns to her room and is like I can't marry
Ghirardel me She laughs at herself in the mirror
as the OP plays in a way that reminds me of like
Charlotte laughing Your marbles a little real
reaching my breaking point here. Yes When we
get back, we cut to General Georges talking to
General Buell about Oscar. I don't know how to
say that. I'm going to say it like that. Notably,
the general now refers to Oscar as his daughter
instead of as his son, which he has been pretty
consistent about up to this point. Yeah, it sucks
to men suck. Now we hate them. Buell tells General
Georges that the troops are complaining about
having to take orders from a woman. He knows
that Oscar is a good commander, but the meds
morale is a problem. General George Hayes cuts
him off, saying that he is trying to get her
to retire from the military and get married.
So all of this will just work itself out. I am
losing my mind. Like friggin selfish man. Just.
Terrible father, just like on a whim, just just
robbing his child of a clear identity and then
like. Oh, I want you to be this. Now I'm going
to change my mind and I expect you to just change
everything that I've taught you to be because
I'm now being stupid. Ah, General Chargé sucks.
Boo, boo, boo. Oscar just needs to be like cut
loose and moved to a different country or something.
Ugh, making me mad. Joe is feeling unwell. I'm
killing time here. OK, I'm back. Sorry about
that. OK. I think I'm going to have somebody
some thoughts about gender at the end of this.
Yep. Later, we see a carriage where with some
men on horseback pursuing them, we learned that
one of them is named Sanjuist. And remember that
name, because he's going to be important. That
guy has a Wikipedia page. Then just ask if the
carriage is carrying the Treasury Secretary and
it is and the guy inside is like, yes, I'm the
Treasury Secretary and San just says he has come
to kill him and stabs him through the roof of
the carriage, which is awesome. I take over.
I can let me pretend to be the one who wrote
all these extensive notes. And you want to try
them? Yeah, go ahead and try. Try not to cough
in the bike. Did you finish? OK. Yep. OK. Late.
Okay, I'm gonna say it different from you. Later,
Saint Just. Just call me to a meeting. Saint
Just? What? Okay, yeah, Saint Just. Tell me what
Saint Just is doing. Sondjuist or whatever. Sondjuist?
Sondjuist. He's called into a meeting with Robespierre.
Robespierre is like, hey, did you kill that guy?
You're not supposed to kill these guys or just
petitioning him. And see, no, someone juiced
it. Like, so what if I killed him? They're the
enemy, right? But Robespierre says that his methods
are too extreme. God. I gave you such a good
one. It starts to leave him. He tells Bernard,
who's also there, that maybe the Black Knight
should help them out sometime. At the French
Guard barracks, Oscar is doing roll call for
today's patrol. They head out, but Garedel freaking
sees Oscar right before she's about to go. He's
like, sorry, I had to leave yesterday. I'd like
to visit you tonight. Oscar lies, because she
doesn't want to see this bastard and says, duty
tonight. And then leaves. Ghirardel wishes his
dear Oscar a safe patrol. Shut up, Ghirardel.
It's so hard to watch. It's terrible. Oh, my
God. Oh, my God. From when she kicked his ass
in the first episode. Yeah. He's barely been
around and now he thinks he can be a main character
by like I think I like how as soon as Oscar is
like I'm gonna be a man and all the men decide
that she's gonna be a woman they all just start
treating it like shit It's like no one has respected
you up to this point They just all been hanging
around hoping that some point your father is
gonna make you do this and upsetting Oh, also,
I feel like Oscar is like at this point, like
finster status. She's like over 30, like having
birth at this point would be dangerous for her.
And if anyone marries her, they're going to expect
that. And I don't think it would be. I think
it's always dangerous for everybody at this point.
OK, yes, because I was listening to this podcast
and you're talking about how basically like we've
evolved like. in a way that has made it more
difficult for us to, like, than it should be
to give birth and, like, maybe we just shouldn't.
We're not set up for success in that regard.
Maybe we just shouldn't. Yeah, just give it up.
Oh, my God. OK. All right. You want me to go
back to? No, I'm doing a terrible job inserting
my opinions into it. No, it's fine. You can keep
going. Keep going. Okay. Okay. While patrolling
the streets, Alain, no, I'm just going to say
Alan. Alain. Alain, that's what you were saying.
Alain warns Andre that the men know he was a
servant of Oscar's and suspect him as a spy.
Watch your back, Oscar. Keep an eye out. Watch
your back, Andre. Fuck. Watch your back, Andre.
Also, Oscar, you should also, because everyone's
out to get to you. So he's like, I don't know
if he's just trying to like, very favor with
Andre and like establish like, hey, I'm on your
side, but maybe he's actually the one who's telling
them to do this stuff. I don't know. I mean,
Alon, I think Alon likes Andre, but he's a little
bit suspicious of him, but he's not going to
do anything. You know what I mean? He's just
trying to be like, what's what's up with this
dude? What's going on? Yeah. And he's going to
find out. Let's see. We cut to the opera where
he just murders another noble. Oscar gets the
news and tells her men to move out, but they
don't care at all and refuse to go. Just let
the military police handle it. Later, Oscar rides
home. Granny tells her that her father is waiting
for her. She demands that he refuse Ghirardel's
marriage proposal. She doesn't want to get married.
The general is like. Calm down. Let's just talk
about it. I heard things are rough in the French
Guard. Oscar is super downplaying it. Kind of
like, oh, yeah, they're definitely hazing me.
But honestly, it's more motivating than anything.
Way more interesting than the Royal Guard. So
she's like very aware of what he's going to try
to do here and is like trying to pass it off
like this isn't that much of a big deal. Oh,
yeah. Like, leave me alone, dad. Oh, gosh. And
suddenly, General Darje starts apologizing to
Oscar for raising her as a man. He truly wishes
for her happiness, but made her endure undue
hardships. Oscar's like, it's cool. I didn't
abandon my womanhood as much as you think. I
even fell in love once. But in her dad's eyes,
bug out. What? Yes, but now I'm ready to leave
that behind and be a man full time. The general
is like, don't say such sad things like that,
even though I'm the one who asked you to do that.
Now I'm changing my mind. I want you to have
time to be my beautiful daughter. It doesn't
have to be Ghirardel. We'll find you. However,
we'll find basically we'll find whatever guy
you want. We'll make it happen. Whoever you fancy.
Meanwhile, Oscar has taken a rose. get gathered
as petals and blown them away. Basically being
like, here's my woman, go away. There is now.
There's me, the rose gone, scattered to the wind.
Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. Take over. OK. OK. Yeah.
Go ahead. At the barracks, Granny goes to see
Oscar or god, I messed it up immediately. Granny
goes to see Andre. She's brought him some new
clothes. And then she's like, hey, are you coming
back during your leave? Right. And he's like,
yeah. And then she decides to tell him that there's
buzz about the manner that Oscar is going to
get married and Andre is stunned. She leaves
and Andre runs back to the barracks, but finds
some fellow guards waiting for him. They're like,
hey, man, I heard you were a servant for the
commander. We hate people who serve the nobles
as their lap dogs. And then they accuse him of
being a spy. They drag him to a store room and
beat him up he said you know what he's yeah I'm
here to fight I've got some stress to work on
some stuff just happened to me they get into
a brawl but it's like a 5v1 so Andre gets pretty
messed up but he does do pretty well all things
considered in this fight eventually they knock
him out and leave but they run into Alon on the
way out Alon's like hey man why are you fighting
without without my permission and also like a
5v1 that hardly seems fair And he tells them
to remember that he likes this guy. And he says
all of this while like brandishing a knife like
he's going to kill them. Why wouldn't he have
said this before? Like, oh yeah, why? You know,
I guess he's I don't know. I feel like he's just
trying to get on Andre's good side for a reason.
Like maybe he's going to try and bring Andre
over to their side. Like look how much more I've
helped you than Oscar has or something. Maybe.
Along goes to see Andre, who was crying out for
Oscar. Along turns to see Oscar in the doorway
and is like, oh, oh, you're in love with her.
Oh, that's what's going on. He tells Oscar to
take care of him and leaves. He's like, Andre,
I can't. Why are you into like the manly women?
What is happening? All right. That evening, Ghirardel
is waiting for Oscar so he can escort her home.
They ride together as Ghirardel tries to give
an explanation for why he wants to marry her.
He tells her that he misses her and loves her
and but it does not seem particularly confident
or real. He's just kind of saying this stuff.
Oscar, this entire time, has said nothing. Ghirardel
then says that if he wasn't born a noble that
he would gladly have been her servant or her
stable hand, you know, like some other guy who
might have done that. Oscar says that as nobles
they shouldn't speak that way about servants
and then rides off. Get the picture, dude. We
cut to General Jarjez telling Oscar that his
buddy General Buell is going to host a ball for
her to meet more suitors than just Ghirardel.
She must attend dressed as a woman. Oscar just
plays piano the entire time instead of saying
anything. We cut to General Jarjez and General
Buell in a carriage together. They're attacked
by Sanjust. God, I did it because you did it.
Sanjust. They're attacked by Sanj - I called
it stained just here, I didn't even write it
right. He's trying to kill General Buel. They
kill the drivers and Sanj just fires the gun
into the carriage, but it hits General Jarjez
instead. We see Oscar ride to Versailles to see
her father in a sickbed. Granny tells her that
the bullet missed his heart so he should be okay.
Oscar collapses and Andre hands her a handkerchief
because they're all there together. Remember?
when oscar had a mom like i would think that
when her dad is shot his life would come see
him when she had a mom remember when she had
a mom and then she couldn't remember when i thought
she did it and then she did and now she's gone
again oh my god uh later general jarjays laughs
that they must have mistaken him for the other
guy Oscar says that she will catch these men
who did this to him, but the general says that
instead she should get married to make him happy.
Go to the ball, Oscar! Hey, Andre, you should
go to the ball with her! It'll be a once -in
-a -lifetime opportunity to see her all dolled
up! Isn't that right, bud? And Andre's like,
uh, yeah, okay. Later, Andre goes to Oscar's
office and tells her that they need to get ready
for the ball. She's like... We got time, and
he's like, uh, we don't. You have to like go
and get changed and stuff. But she tells him
that he doesn't need to escort her. But Andre
insists. He's like, I told your dad I would escort
you. And she tells him not to come and leaves,
but tells him on the way out that she won't be
married off so easily. We cut to the ball with
lots of men there waiting to court Oscar, including
Ghirardel, who's also here. But I'm going to
be honest, man, I don't think you got a good
shot of this. No Oscar shows up in her full military
uniform and Garedel sees her and is like, oh
I I see what's gonna happen The men are all shocked
Oscar makes a big production of saying all that's
weird. We got a ball, but it's all dudes here
There's no women here at all. Man, that's weird.
I guess I'm out of place. I'm gonna leave and
then leaves Ghiradell is like, yep, that's peak
Oscar and then toasts to her. Later, Andre tells
General Jarjay is what happened. He accepts it,
saying he won't say anything more. All he hopes
is that for his daughter to never stop searching
for her happiness as we cut to credits. Mm hmm.
Oh, man. OK, they got OK. But now we've done
the thing. No one can be like trying to tell
Oscar what to do after this, though. But this
is very annoying with her dad to watch. I mean,
I do feel like out of all of the guys, General
Jarje's comes out the best out of these episodes
because it basically is like, oh, I haven't been
doing my fatherly duty to Oscar. I like force
her to be a man. I'm just going to do the thing
I did for all my other daughters and like set
them up. That's what I have to do. I'm sorry,
Oscar. I like made your life complicated. I'm
going to do it. And then he doesn't really listen
to her because he's the father figure. It's patriarchal
and you never listen to women. And then she does
this. And at the end, he's like, OK, I'm just
going to back off. You know what? It's fine.
I just want my daughter to be happy. I'm just
going to not do anything. And I think out of
all of the men in these episodes, he is the only
one who learned something and is the only one
who backs off. And I feel like if he continues
to be backed off. then he comes across the best
out of all of these. Yeah. I really wish we had
gotten to see, because basically we saw the birth
of Oscar, his declaration, and we cut to Oscar
being like 16 or 17 or something. Yeah. And like,
we don't get to see like, how he's drilling this
into her identity and like, what did he say that
stayed with her that made her determined to be
like this and, you know. That's like, you know,
makes it harder to see why Oscar has been so
devoted to this. And yeah, I mean, like, unlike
Oscar, I think General Jarge's really doesn't
question like the societal norms and practices
and stuff like that. So when she leaves to join
the French Guard, he's like, oh, why would she
do that? Oh, my God, I messed up her whole life
by making her do this. I need to try to correct
it. Which feels a little bit, you know, like
that makes sense to me, even though it's like,
I mean, I think you should just listen. You can
talk to her. You can just get her opinion on
things. You don't have to, like, try to do things
for her. But I guess you do in this society.
That's the patriarchy, baby. Patriarchy back.
At least he backs off. Yeah, I really wish we
could have seen. I just yeah, I really wish we
had seen more of the childhood because we didn't
get to see her sisters and like, how did she
feel being treated differently from her sisters?
How did they view her? Did they like kind of
resent she was being treated differently or were
they, you know, took pity? You know, like a lot
of context lost on what shaped Oscar to be like
this. Yeah. I want to talk about Ghirardel for
a second, because this guy is the most like.
Like he's doing this proposal, and I wonder if
if general Jarjay is told him to do this or if
he is doing this Because he seems To know it's
not gonna work the whole time I mean right he's
from a noble family. Maybe he his own family
was like that or something Yeah, that could also
be it. They're probably like oh Garedel you talk
about this woman all the time that you really
respect you should just marry her She's not your
boss anymore, so you can do that." And he's like,
okay. Because the whole time he's like, you know,
he's definitely performing. Like I see the Ghirardel
performance and being like, oh, I'll call you
my Oscar and I'll be, oh, your smile is good
enough for me. But like, he knows it's not working.
When he does this thing where he escorts her
home and talks about how much he loves her, he's
like saying it very unsure of himself. And then
when he goes to this... to the to the ball or
whatever and sees her in the uniform. He's like,
oh, yeah, no, this was never going to work. Yeah.
The number of dudes showing up to that is also
making me mad. Like, so everyone is just like
playing along with her little I'm a guy bit waiting
for the moment when she was up on the market
for the taking like to no one respect her this
whole time. Like what? Dude, yeah, that's true.
But also I'm like, if I knew Oscar, and all of
a sudden it's like, we're gonna have a ball for
her to meet suitors, I would go to that. Are
you kidding me? Like, I'm not gonna try to court
her. I feel like that's a disaster, but you gotta
go. Yeah, that's true. I gotta see what's up.
I gotta talk to her and be like, yo, what's happening?
But no, I think a lot of them are trying to actually
court Oscar. Weird. I mean, the Georges are like
a fairly prominent noble family probably, right?
Yeah. So it's a good catch. I wonder if all the
ladies of court are devastated, like, no, our
Oscar, don't take her away. Yeah. Andre gets
beat up in this episode. Yeah, he kind of deserves
it. He kind of deserves it. Karma. I do like
how Alon is like, oh, you're in love with her
and she's like, this is really weird. Yeah, yeah.
OK, well, all right. Yeah, I just. I it's not
I don't know. Oscar just doesn't acknowledge
how much people are like going against her wishes
by designing her like this, but making me mad
for her. He's very clearly stated how she wants
to be treated and then no one's treating her
that way. Or at least genuinely. I mean, like
I do like the fact that she is just trying to
like run away from her emotions by doing this
thing, I think is bad. But also the fact that.
Nobody is respecting her wishes at all is like
a totally different problem. Yeah. That needs
to be addressed in some way. You're not confronting
them about it. They're not learning. You're just
letting them feel that way. So what do we think
about this like as a turn away from being in
Versailles, being with the French Guard? Good.
We don't have to see Marie Antoinette anymore.
I mean, the thing is, yeah, go ahead. I mean,
hopefully it just the exposure to common people
more will just open Oscar's eyes. And like now
she doesn't have like the obligation to take
the side of Versailles. And hopefully this just
like separates her more. Maybe we do get to see
Oscar bling more towards the revolution. But
I guess we'll see. Right. This is the resolution.
Well, no, that's not true. Oscar or Andre still
going to be freaking hanging around her. But
hopefully this lightens the load of responsibility
for the noble part of her. She can just focus
on the justice. Yeah. I mean, this is like the
thing about this is, you know, obviously blowing
up, getting your life blown up because you are
have like a falling out with all of your stuff
is bad. But joining the French Guard. and not
being in the Royal Guard is probably the best
thing that's happened to Oscar's chances of survival.
Because let me tell you, I'm listening to that
Revolution podcast. The people that are defecting
to the Revolution is mostly the French Guard.
Those guys defect at large numbers. And it seems
like Company B, based on who's in it, is definitely
going to. And that can be either good or bad,
right? If she can make it good with these guys
in time for that, Maybe she'll go with them.
If she doesn't, they might just turn and kill
her. Yeah. Well, I guess we'll find out. It should
be a much more like history focused theories
moving forward on like events and where Oscar
finds herself in the mix. Yep. Episode 32 is
called Prelude to the Storm, which I feel like
is we're in it where it's happening. Thanks going
down. Next three episodes. And the accidental
viewing of episode 34, I saw Oscar had been in
a blue outfit, and now we know why, because that's
the French guard. Yeah, she got a new outfit.
She's blue now. Yep. Yep. So here we go. Yeah,
where will Oscar be when the revolution comes
when she says her loyalty into Marie will not
fade? Is that true? I really hope it's not true
Because that's bad if it is I hope we get to
see more Rosalie and Bernard what's -his -face?
Yeah, Bernard. That's true. We didn't see Rosalie,
but we saw Bernard. Yeah Having those guys be
the bad guys. What do we think about that? Well,
at least they're not so bad as St. Just, you
know, he's very clearly like not doing, you know,
like well for the reputation of the revolution
because they want to approach it with like a
sense of justice and reason and he's just ruining
that for them. So is he going to like what's
going to play out with that? Yeah. Even Robespierre
is like, there's something wrong with that guy.
Yeah. Yes. I mean, yeah, it's very sadly we don't
get to see much of them. We just see like the
passage of time and then they've changed a lot,
but we don't get to see like what made them change
as much. But yeah, maybe we'll get to learn more
about them moving forward. Yeah. I will say the
scene where he shoots General Jarjays and then
jumps into the lake is very cool. Like they did
it like a slow -mo thing. Yeah. And I'm like,
is he going to jump into the water? And then
he does. And I'm like, yeah, this guy, this guy
knows how to assassinate someone. The wrong guy.
And also he doesn't kill him. So not really,
but performance wise. Yeah. But they do like
a blow dart on this. Yeah, it's like a little
tiny crossbow. Like a little handheld sized one.
Yeah. Uh huh. That's right. And they both just.
Yeah, I wonder how like soundproof the carriages
are. Like so that discussions in there aren't
being heard by the drivers. And then also something
happens to the drivers. They don't hear it. Yeah.
I mean, I guess the driver, because like the
horses clopping along is pretty loud. Yeah. So
like unless. Yeah. You might hear them slump
over or something, but by then it's probably
too late. Yeah. Well, yeah. I guess everyone's
starting to wield guns now. We don't really see
Oscar use a gun ever. We've seen her practice
with them, but she doesn't carry one, seemingly.
I think she does have one. She's an officer,
so I think she might have a pistol. Yeah. And
we don't get to see, because Oscar's very, you
know... And that's the whole thing, right? Of
why wars... started having higher casualties
because with weapons, you don't have to look
into your opponent's eye as they die. And so
I wonder how she feels about that becoming more
of the like method of war rather than, you know,
having to face your opponent and like the best
man wins kind of thing. Like I feel like she
would have strong feelings about it now. Well,
that's also true. Also, right. She was a fairy.
She is now going to be in a role where she sees.
the worst of it, rather than like just the idealized
position. Oh, yeah. None of these guys are fighting.
None of the people there care about honor. It's
not about that. What are you talking about? You're
talking about honor? Are you serious? Yeah. So,
yeah, it'll be interesting to see how this all
plays out from here. Yup. Oh, man. Well, on the
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do you guys agree with us? Are we being too...
Maybe we're wrong. Maybe the French Revolution
just won't happen. And this is like a not historical
thing at all. Like, actually, Joe, the French
Revolution doesn't happen in the Rose of Versailles.
This show is really going to throw us off. King
Louis just solves the debt crisis. They just
they push through it. They post through it. He
just posts a lot and it's solved. He enacts tariffs
and everything's fixed. It definitely doesn't
wreck the entire economy. Joseph's the little
brat, right? Why? You spend all your time with
your mother and yet what you just already in
the mindset of like, I don't value women, so
I'm going to call out for my piece of shit father
who probably doesn't do anything. Instead of
my mom. Oh, yeah. And that's why he's going to
die. My child at the age of nine. Yeah, he is.
Well, he dies of a sickness, but. Oh, OK. OK.
Sorry. We're getting back into the show and we're
wrapping it up. Yeah. Remember. Oh, geez. What
a God. So much stuff happens. Don't assault people.
Don't don't get drunk and assault women. That
one goes without saying. Yeah. If you get promoted.
Oh, God. Yep. If you if you're if your boss resigns
to take a new job somewhere else and you get
promoted, that is not the opportunity to ask
her to marry you. That's not going to work, my
dude. Don't like please continue to like don't
pretend to understand and respect someone's boundaries
that they've set up as their identity and don't
want. Frost you know like respect who they are
and what they want for themselves and don't just
like try to push An agenda on them because you've
suddenly changed your mind on things or like
never respected them in the first place And now
they just you have the opportunity to strike
don't do that About their emotions and romance
and love You can process stuff. You can think
about these things. You don't have to pretend
like they don't exist. Yep, yep, yep. If you're
going to join the French Guard, learn how to
do a backflip. It's very important that you could
do a backflip on command. Uh -huh. Oh, man. When
did the Olympics start? Uh, 19 something. Unsurprised
France isn't dominating. I was going to say unsurprised.
France isn't dominating gymnastics with the ancestry
they have. Oh, there is a 1896 Summer Olympics.
OK, that's the first one. Well, OK, well, I guess
that's today's episode. They had like one, two,
three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten
events back then. Yeah. How many do we have now?
Oh, wait, now they had some more. And tennis
also, but I know that's one of them. They have
like a bunch now. I don't know. Number of Olympic
events. This is like this is like what happened
with Oscar is like how when I was in paintball
and I was the only chick on the team that and
I didn't know this at the time, but that my freshman
year, there's like a bet to see who would date
me. And a bunch of them had like. Chipped in
some gears like fries for everyone that happened
Yeah Oh my god, this is this is it happens to
this day. Oh, dude's just assuming even if ah
You know, like I should have been more mad at
them at the time. I just kind of laughed it off
and I did end up dating someone who was on the
team, but they weren't there the first year So
technically he was not a part of that. There
you go Yeah Suck it. At the first Olympics, there
were nine sports and no, there were 10 disciplines
and 43 events in the current. This is the Summer
Olympics. In the current Summer Olympics, there
are three hundred and twenty nine medal events.
Good Lord. So we found some new ones. Oh, OK.
Yeah, I'm just much more passionate about these.
You just you grow up and you're just like. La
de da. And then freaking you encounter the world
and you're like, oh, damn. And that sucks. And
you're like, I don't know if I like this. You
just have to grow as a person until you feel
like strong enough in your identity, I guess,
to stand up for things or like voice your opinions.
Yes. But yeah, this hopefully Oscar will stand
up for her beliefs soon. Hopefully, we'll see.
We'll see how it goes for us. Uh, yeah. Well,
OK. Wrapping things up. Hopefully it will be
better next time and not sickly. Oh, yeah, hopefully.
Hopefully. Thanks for bearing with us. Yes. And
yeah, thanks. Thank you, everyone, for listening.
It means a lot to us because we really have fun
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