It's your favorite day of the week, folks.
It's show Joe time.
Where I Sarah show my friend Joe show Joe.
Our current series is the Rosa for Cy.
Trucking along in that super dramatic and all the sparkly effects that show Joe is now
known for.
And love it starts.
Yeah, we're getting like serious now.
And like an extremely funny thing happens that's like not funny in the show.
Okay, we're gonna talk about.
Some other stuff.
Yes, I know exactly what you're talking about.
I think.
Oh, goodness.
Yeah.
I have like, okay, make make a note about this awful part.
For Joe.
It's gonna be.
It all makes sense now, though.
Okay.
But yeah, we'll typically just what do they call it shoot the shit or when you just.
Yeah, they say that if we're like old timers.
Okay.
Never mind.
What's like the cool thing?
What are the kids thing for just chatting these days?
We're talking.
Yeah.
Okay.
You kids talking anymore?
They don't just like do little fortnight dances and.
I guess.
On stop.
I assume that's what they do now.
Sure.
All now that all their teachers have been replaced with AI.
It's tough because like I have siblings that are kids like kids these days, but they're
both abnormal cases for children like my like the one that you've met.
He grew up with like incredibly older siblings.
And so I think he like was he kind of talks differently than maybe some kids because he
was influenced by older folks during his vital talking years.
And then the other siblings are little basket cases and so they're like an isolated situation
there.
I don't think they're talking.
Okay.
Is that really what you want to be saying on air?
Fuck them kids.
No, I mean, I one of them is incredibly similar to me and my stepmom will ask me like questions
like she's doing a case study of like was this normal for you?
Oh my God, what's his face in the Big Bang Theory, whose mom also does that?
I've never watched that show.
Can you speak to the authenticity of the intellect talk on that?
Yeah, I mean, like they talk about stuff that's real.
Like the writers are all pretty good at that stuff.
I feel like very long running series.
People I met in STEM are not like that.
Oh, okay.
Well, I guess some of them have been, but for the most part not really.
Okay.
But yeah, so no, we're not we're not with it with what the kids are saying.
But talking, talking, Joe, what have you been up to or should I?
I'm not eating ice cream.
I'm going to put it away.
Looking something up.
I'm going to pull up an image that my mom sent me, maybe and find it.
Okay.
Oh my gosh, does your mom send you like an anime meme or something?
No, no.
She went to a museum.
Uh-huh.
Like an art and art museum.
And she saw a character.
She saw a painting.
It's not a character.
It's a painting.
Um, one to 10.
How much does this look like you?
Oh, God.
Uh, I'll show you.
How are you going to send it?
Are you just going to share it on the chat?
It's in the recording chat.
Right.
I don't get notified for that.
Uh, I mean, I've had bangs in the past.
I was like, this is what Sarah would look like if she was a poor French girl.
There you go.
You could cosplay as this painting.
Let's see.
I'm looking at, I'm sorry, the painting I'm looking at for everybody listening is a flower
seller in London by Jules Bastien, Le Page, Le Page, the page.
I don't know how to say this.
She's pale like I am.
She like, like he had like a similar face.
Yeah, the face shape.
I was going to say her lips are more shapely and she looks like she should dress like this
feelings more.
Uh, you should, you should dress like this all the time in like 40 years, I think.
Wow.
Oh, like chokers were popular then too.
Oh hell yeah.
This was painted in 1882.
So it's not that long ago, I guess.
Anyway, yeah, what have I been doing?
I, hmm, what did I do?
Like I did something.
I finished the DLC of Gears 5.
It was fine.
I don't have much to say about that.
I, uh, if I read a book, I finished reading a short story collection called Labyrinths
by Borges.
Pretty good.
So some pretty good stories in that.
You ever think about a coin?
You ever like get a coin that you think about so much that it like destroys your entire
life because you can't stop thinking about it?
No.
You don't ever do that?
No.
Hmm.
You just haven't ran into yours a year yet.
So one day.
Okay.
One day you'll come across an object that'll entrant you, uh, possibly forever.
Maybe you've already seen it.
You just weren't paying attention.
I mean, I'll have time so it's like, oh, I tried on this cute jacket at this vintage
store and it was really cute.
I didn't want, I felt like it was too expensive, but then I couldn't stop thinking about it.
And so I went back to get it and then it had already been sold.
So I have like moments like that where it's like, I think about it after.
Got you.
Yeah.
But not all consuming in life ending.
Uh-huh.
It hasn't been like the, the mode through which you experience all thoughts now.
No.
It'll turn through this jacket.
Well, that's like what card is for Chihaya.
Everything's card or related.
Yeah.
Except she doesn't watch other people play.
That's true.
Just when it comes to her.
Uh, okay.
I don't know if I have much else.
Did I do anything else?
Maybe I just didn't.
I got notifications on Discord that you had tried some new games or something.
I did.
Yeah.
Discord, I don't know if it does it, where it's like, oh, new, new player to this and
that.
On Discord?
Yeah.
Like, shows little updates for people if they've tried a new game or what they've been playing.
So I did, I did beat a co-op game.
I beat, uh, what is it?
Carry the glass.
I played that with my friend Chris for you.
You like a little platformer where you're carrying glass and anytime you like hit something
weird, it shatters.
That's so stressful.
It was very stressful, which is kind of the point.
Uh, yeah.
So we did that.
That was pretty good.
I started playing animal well, which is like a platformer Metroidvania game that is cool
and has nice aesthetics to it.
I'm like, I have no idea how far I am into it, but I make it progress still.
So that's good.
I don't know if there's anything else.
I feel like I very adrift this week.
Okay.
Like maybe you're just relaxing more or?
Well, that's not it.
No, okay.
I'm definitely not relaxing.
That's right.
You don't relax.
I don't relax.
That's not what I do.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm not going to play a graphic novel this weekend that I haven't finished.
Okay.
What now graphic novel?
I have to read the incal.
Never heard of it.
It's, uh, I think it's French.
Okay.
So just your whole everything is French related.
Yeah.
Really.
Uh huh.
You recap.
Um, okay.
Yeah.
That's what I'm doing.
How about you?
What you got going on?
There you go.
Get it.
Ask me.
Yay.
You can always segue to yourself.
Well, I feel like I'm always doing that.
It's like Sarah is just like trying to talk about me attendance, like a back and forth.
You're the host.
You're hosting.
Oh, right.
I am the boss.
Aren't I?
Yeah.
Okay.
Um, I have been up to a couple things.
Survivor season 48 premiered on Wednesday.
And so I went to my coworkers, watched party for it.
And so it was just like a whole couch of us.
Girls and they were all getting like emotional because there's a bunch of like heartfelt
endearing moments in it.
And I was like, I can't look at any of them.
We're all starting.
Oh, was she too?
Uh, yeah.
Well, it's a two hour premiere.
Uh, but yeah, cause I don't know.
There's just like really nice moments amongst cast members.
This is when we're still nice to each other.
Maybe we'll get cut through by next episode.
Um, uh, yeah.
Love Island all stars is done.
The traders is almost done.
I'm just going to have, oh, and okay.
So I'll have survivor and challenge all stars, but not as much shows to watch now that love
Island isn't on every day, um, tragic, even though it was a terrible season, but still
it was something.
I've got, um, well, it's all stars, which is never good.
Uh, cause these are the people who like weren't likable enough that they don't have to resort
to returning to love Island.
Um, it's just all the like washups to this is all they've got to get back in the spotlight.
Um, well, it feel like my sister told me that they had lots of folks lined up to come in
as bomb shells, but a lot of them kept dropping because they saw that the show wasn't performing
well.
So they just, I don't know, we're like psych.
I'm not coming on the show.
So there's barely any new cast members introduced and no one likable really.
Uh, but oh well, it's fine.
Maybe there won't be another love Island all stars.
They got to bring back a lot of Island games instead.
All this stuff.
Yeah.
Can you explain to me what's going on with wheel not wheel of fortune dealer?
No deal Island.
Why is it an Island?
I don't know.
I watched dealer no deal like when it first came on, but not since I didn't even realize
it was still a thing, but I don't know.
It seems to be celebrity guests, maybe or something.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
But it's on an Island.
I'm assuming it's so that all the hot chicks that hold two cases can wear even less clothes
by wearing bikinis instead.
Are you looking at what's up with dealer no deal?
I'm going to say, yeah, I am not.
I was not.
I'm sorry, but I was not satisfied with that answer.
Oh, sorry.
Well, I don't, I have no idea.
Why is it an Island?
I don't get it.
It's freshen up, freshen up the franchise.
There's a lot of people.
I don't get it.
The contestant competing in physical challenges in an Island setting to
retrieve briefcases containing cash values.
They're just trying to do survivor, but like things, I guess the winner of the
challenge gets to select a contestant to play the bankers challenge, but they
must aim to make a good offer of the chosen briefcase to avoid elimination.
So I think that's a good idea.
I feel like it doesn't suit the franchise and there's already enough shows
doing that.
I don't know.
Like, is there something like just incredibly entrancing about an
Island?
I don't know.
Does the audience just craves an Island?
No, I well, I don't.
survivor when it first started was in different areas.
And now.
Every single season is like on the same island and PG, which is so boring.
I hate that.
Because they used to.
Yeah, I don't like it.
And it's been like that for.
Oh, I mean, I feel like the actual answer is that they get some kind of like
deal for going at an Island or something like the same five islands that do all
this stuff.
But like, it's just so funny to be like, ooh, this is so funny.
It's on an Island, so you know, shit gets real.
We had to take a helicopter here.
You know, it's expensive.
Yeah, I don't know.
I guess it's like less inhabited or the less things to have to work around
for filming.
And.
Okay.
Anyway, I haven't seen that back to things.
I've seen I watch.
Oh, I've been working out this stuff.
Like week, not crazy, but I've just been like using the little bike and
treadmill and stuff, but I've been watching the enemy a lot while I've
been doing that.
I watched the Amada Coon.
What was it?
Level my love.
My love story with you.
My to Coon at level 999.
Wow.
You make fun of me for watching stuff.
Okay.
I know.
It's.
I'm not sure.
Okay, I know it's.
It's fine.
I feel like I remember liking the manga more, but it is refreshing that it's
like from what I remember the manga, they eventually get to the point of
like being intimate and stuff.
And that's something you never saw in so Joe being touched on it all.
And so I like that.
It gets to that same with Hori Mia.
Even though this apparently not so Joe, even though it totally feels like it.
I don't know what to tell you.
I mean, it's just, you know, like it's not real.
Okay.
Like, I mean, like, you know, the, the genre conventions are just about like
who you're marketing to.
It's not the real, like who you made this for necessarily.
Yeah, that's true.
And then I, and then Monster Hunter.
Wiles came out yesterday.
Yesterday.
And so far so good.
I probably have about five hours in the character creators better.
You don't have thunder thighs like you did in Monster Hunter worlds.
Got cool bird reptilian thing as a mount.
That's good.
I've heard mixed things about it.
I think the major concern.
I haven't looked into it.
Like I haven't read reviews or anything, but a lot of folks seem to dislike that
it's easier than Monster Hunter worlds was.
Like it's not as difficult.
I'm like, I don't know that that's like the worst thing ever because when I
first started Monster Hunter worlds, I, there would be like a 15 minute time limit
on hunts.
And I remember sometimes hitting that limit, which is like too long to spend on one
thing and not get it.
I feel like that's a long time.
I don't think it's that bad.
I think a lot of people, you know, the hipsters being like, oh, they're trying
to make it more appealing to a broader audience.
But that, which isn't always a bad thing.
Well, I've heard that like there's just really long tutorial sections and like
it feels like they're just like, if you've played this before, you're just
like constantly punished by having to relearn stuff you already know how to do.
No, you can try.
I, because you're prompted when you first launched the game, like if you want
tutorials and hints and tips and stuff, and I just turned mine off.
I don't really feel like I've been bogged down with stuff like that.
And they added stuff like you can auto SOS flares.
So you don't have to like do it as you're being attacked by a monster.
It can just be, and there's like NPCs that can join if no real players join.
Which is cool too.
Yeah, I don't know.
I just, I'm enjoying it so far, but I, you know, I'm not the most like critical.
I'm assuming people, this has been like their thing for a long time.
Maybe have more strong feelings about it.
But I like, we don't have every, the characters have names now because the
Monster Hunter world is like their title is all we knew to call them by.
So they have names and there's not annoying ass check the handler there.
So that's good.
And our character talks, our character is voiced.
Not that we're talking a bunch, but we do talk and now our little
cat guy does too.
But yeah, I think that's about it.
I feel, yeah.
Sounds good to me.
Yes.
And that just nothing in the usual.
Yeah.
And watching the Rose of Versailles, of course.
Watching the Rose of Versailles.
So we talk about that.
You can get into it because boy, there's stuff we got to talk about in these
episodes.
These episodes.
Three kind of unrelated, but feels like they should be more related
things happen.
That's true.
They get, they get like brought up, but not addressed kind of.
Like we're going to, we're going to put a pin in this and address it later.
Yes.
All this other stuff, which is, which is interesting.
I keep trying to do voice actors for this show.
As you know, it's not really working out because a lot of these people
have never like just worked in stuff that I've never seen before.
The one I do want to say is that the voice like Rosalie is voiced by
Ryoko Yoshida.
And one, she plays a handmaiden in the wonderful Wizard of Oz.
I made it like a thing. That's fun.
Play someone in space.
Pirate Captain Harlock.
I just put that on there because people might know that, but she does the
voice of Teto and Naska, which is the little, the little buddy, the little
like yellow fox thing.
Oh, I like hanging out.
She just makes weird little noises.
Yeah.
She does like the little noises.
Does not talk.
Love NASA kind of the value of the wind of the value of the wind of
the value of the of.
Yeah, she's from there.
Yeah.
My favorite.
Be honest.
The value of the wind doesn't do that much.
No.
I guess it's just because the source she's from.
It's kind of a mouthful of the of the is said twice in that title.
It's a lot.
Yeah.
Valley of the wind of the.
Yeah, that's not great.
The Valley of the Winds.
Naska should have done possessive in the other direction.
Naska and giant bugs that have taken over the planet because of
human bad behavior.
Yeah.
Anyway, let's move on to the episode.
The Rosa for Cy episode 13 is called.
Oh, winds of Arras answer.
I think that's how I'm going to say the name of this place.
Arras.
Sure.
Arras.
I don't know how to say this.
These are all French things.
How would a French person say this?
Arras.
I don't know.
That doesn't sound right either.
Whatever.
Andra and Granny fighting as she blames him for Oscar's
punishment from last episode where she got sentenced to.
Disciplinary confinement for a month or something.
Oscar comes in and tells her that it's not Andre's fault.
Then she says that she's going to go on a trip to the Jarje's
estate in Arras, a city or a town.
And Granny's like, I weren't you sentenced to confinement.
Aren't you like not supposed to just leave and Oscar is like,
yeah, whatever.
I'll just make some excuse as the OP plays.
The bonking of Andre's is so cartoon.
There's just like a literal like little bonk sound.
And yeah, again, with the.
I can't tell if it's like maybe Oscar just regards her as like
kind of a fussy old lady.
And that's why she dismisses her every concern.
Yeah.
Well, she's the one who's like Oscar, you need to become a
proper lady and Oscar is like, well, I'm not doing that.
So like, if you know somebody who gives you bad advice
instantly, you know, how much are you really going to offer them?
While writing to Arras, Andre complains that Marie's
punishment was too harsh, but Oscar tells him that she was
expecting a lot worse, like to get thrown out of the military
entirely.
And that all things considered the disciplinary confinement
isn't all that bad.
So in a way, Marie really did her a favor.
Anyway, she's like, we can just treat this like a vacation and
they write off.
Like.
Kind of loose.
Yeah.
Oscar's like, yeah, whatever.
I don't feel bad at all.
We'll learn anything.
We're going to learn some stuff about Oscar in these next two
episodes.
One of them is that all on board for revenge plots.
We're here for it.
Yeah.
Like I deserved it.
So no regrets.
They reach a village on the outskirts of Arras to take a
break.
Andre sees a peasant.
He knows sequin and his young son Gilbert.
They go to talk to him, but as a second does not seem all that
happy to see Oscar and they try to keep the meeting as brief as
possible.
And Andre comments that second is usually much more friendlier
than that.
So that's kind of weird.
I don't know what's up with him.
Andre and Oscar make it to a lot of us and go to the end.
They greet the, the in keep who they know and catch up on things
that have happened.
They're like, oh, I heard you became the captain of the guard
or whatever.
That's great.
In the corner, a man asks for more tea and Oscar recognizes him
as Maximilian Robespierre.
He's here.
He and Oscar shake hands and he invites her to sit down.
He tells her that he's in Arras to help some nearby farmers in
the case of the clergy are trying to seize their land.
Oscar is surprised by this, that this would happen and Robespierre
continues saying that he was hoping things would change with
a new king, but they have just continued to get worse.
Prices keep going up and everyone's saying that the queen is
controlling the king and is like spending a bunch of money on
like some self-indulgent nonsense.
He asked the Oscar if that's true, but she is so incensed by
this revelation that she stands up and like glares at him.
He apologizes for upsetting her and leaves.
He is not wrong.
He is so right.
Crazy how much this is just like everything.
Yeah.
Oh man.
Yeah.
He says he's going to save France as he exits.
Yeah.
The sympathies of the show really lie with the revolutionaries.
Like completely.
Yeah.
Well, it's easy to spin that side of it.
Yeah.
I mean, I guess historically that just checks out.
Yeah.
Like, yeah, they were just the nobles were terrible.
Oscar asks the in-keep if what Robespierre said was true about
the poverty and everyone blaming the queen and the in-keep
basically confirms everything.
He's like, yeah, that's more or less what's happening.
Oscar is horrified about how things have gotten so out of hand.
Back at Versailles, Marie-Anne Smiditt's going through a crisis.
Now that person's gone.
She's grown tired of all the balls and courts and all that other
stuff she's supposed to be doing.
She just wants to wander around aimlessly in her garden, I guess.
Countess Knowles drags her to an opera performance at the palace
and Marie is instantly taken by the songstress.
She asks who the singer is and we're told that her name is
Madam Paulniak.
Marie is taken by her.
What?
Sorry, I was like leaning towards your mic like you.
I'm talking to it.
Back in the loss, Oscar and Andre finish eating.
Oscar is clearly worried that everyone is losing faith in Marie,
but Andre is like, I mean, you know, public opinion,
you can just fix it later or whatever.
We'll just do some, we'll do like a little campaign,
like a little, like a little promotional campaign.
It'll be fine. Don't worry about it.
Suddenly the in-keeper bursts in and says that little Gilbert is
sick and there are no doctors in town.
But even if there was like, even if we go to the next town where
there is a doctor, it'd be too expensive.
So I guess we're screwed.
Oscar and Andre and the in-keeper all rush off.
We cut to Sequin's house.
Oscar tells him that they need to take Gilbert to a doctor
because he's like obviously getting worse.
Like whatever is happening cannot, it's not,
he's not just going to like heal.
Sequin's daughter suggests selling their furniture to pay
for the doctor, but the mom's like,
our furniture is not worth that much money.
And then the daughter says that they can sell their cow,
but then Sequin sadly tells them that they can't go to a doctor.
They just, they're not going to be able to afford it.
He explains that if they sell the cow,
they can't sell the milk and cheese,
which is their only source of income because all of their
like crop harvest is taken in taxes.
Oscar is incensed that Sequin would choose a cow over his son.
She's like, are you really telling me that like you're one cow
away from starving to death?
And Sequin says, yes, we are literally one cow away from starving
to death and Oscar is horrified.
Yeah, just believe him.
Yeah.
I mean, you think they're going to just, if they, if they,
if they would.
Yeah, it's funny.
It's just like what you think they're just like having this
conversation because you're here.
Like they're just trying to guilt you into giving them money.
Like what do you think is happening here, Oscar?
Gilbert comes out of his room, the little boy and says,
don't worry about him.
We need to keep the cow.
Cause he's like the smallest little child.
He like collapses and Oscar picks him up and she and Andre ride
him to a town over where there's a hospital.
Cause I guess they just pay for everything.
They never address this, but I guess they just do that.
Yeah.
I guess that's the assumption.
While writing, Oscar thinks about how she had no idea how bad
things have gotten in the countryside and cries at the
hospital.
I'm sorry.
I like when Oscar cries like.
Yeah, she's going through it.
Yeah.
She cares about people.
Passing.
Care about people.
Yeah.
At the hospital, Oscar and Andre are waiting outside the room.
Andre wonders how it's gotten bad enough that people can't even
see a doctor.
Wouldn't it be crazy if you lived in a society where seeing a doctor
is so expensive?
You couldn't do it.
Wouldn't that be crazy?
Yeah.
It's time to get Oscar on the case now.
The doctor comes out and tells him that they're all,
that he's done all they can and Gilbert just needs to rest for
now.
Oscar and Andre go to see Gilbert and Oscar prays that he'll
recover.
And she also just adds a second wish, which is that she hopes
people will come to understand Marie Antoinette's kindness.
Like, let's just go ahead and add that in there.
I guess.
I don't think she's kind.
She's just gullible.
She's going to be something in this next couple of episodes.
Yeah.
She'll never be redeemed in my eyes.
Not from the very first episode.
Have I seen her in a positive light?
Back in Versailles, Marie requested an audience with Madame
Polyak.
She's like, Hey, how come I haven't seen you in court before?
Like, according to the record, you're here like six months
ago and I just didn't go to that performance.
So like, why don't you come here more often and Madame Polyak
says that?
Well, actually, it's like really expensive to come to Versailles.
There's kind of like nothing else out here.
And I don't have that much money, so I can't do it very often.
Marie is so touched that Polyak would admit something so
embarrassing, like not being enormously wealthy.
The most embarrassing.
The most embarrassing thing.
The most embarrassing thing a person can ever admit is that
they're not super rich.
Uh huh.
She decides that Madame Polyak must have a pure heart for being
able to do that.
And she tells, um, she tells her that Polyak should move her
entire family to Versailles and she'll just pick up the bill.
Don't worry about it.
You could pick up residency here.
I'll just do that.
Polyak's eyes well up and she kisses Marie's hand.
We freeze here and the narrator tells us that in this moment,
Polyak has captured Marie's heart.
She, as in Polyak, would eventually come to control Versailles
over a decade and furthermore would eventually lead Marie
into Annette's descent into becoming a tragic queen.
We're really into our shadowing and this is incredible.
This moment where it's just like, oh, I'm sorry.
You thought, uh, Duke or Leon was going to be the bad guy
because he's like a mustache twirling villain.
No, no, no.
You thought, you thought Jean was going to be a bad guy because
she threw a granny into a fire.
No, no, no.
Those people don't even compare to this random opera singer who
seems totally normal.
She is about to fuck up everything for everybody.
Just incredible.
Just to be like, yeah, this totally normal person.
Well, it's seemingly like from a noble family, just a noble family
and namely because they have not had like the wealth that others
have.
I guess it's just like for fun saying at the palace.
No, no, no.
I mean, she doesn't seem as profession to be an opera singer.
I don't think I think she is.
I mean, like her husband has a job like they are like lower
nobility.
They're closer to like what?
Like if the Jarjays didn't have a position in Versailles, this
is probably what they would be because like they call her madam,
right?
And like she's so she doesn't have like a nobility title.
So like they are, this is like a difference between like a top
10 percenter and like a one percenter kind of deal where it's
like, you're, you're, you're still kind of upper class, but the
gulf between you and actually wealthy people is still enormous.
Okay.
Well, that'll be boo-hoo.
And when everybody else is like in the depth of poverty.
Yeah.
Let's see.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's the next morning and Gilbert recovers.
Everyone's happy.
The innkeeper tells Oscar that she's a hero and then goes on a
long summary of the lessons of today's episodes.
He says that out of the 20 million people that live in France,
the nobles only make up 4 percent but are supported by the
other 96 percent who are starving.
Wouldn't it be crazy if you lived in a society where like 90 plus
percent of the people supported the like ridiculous, um, opulent
lifestyles of the single digit percent people.
Wouldn't that be crazy?
Uh huh.
Can't imagine.
It was weird kind of watching these episodes with everything
that's going on around us.
Yeah.
Oscar and Andre ride home.
Oscar is so frustrated at herself for not knowing about the
peasants working under conditions or like the peasants working
conditions, uh, that she rides her horse too hard.
Eventually she gets thrown because the horse is like done.
Um, Andre goes to her side and thinks to himself that on the
outside, Oscar is as cold as ice, but inside her heart burns
like a raging fire, which is why he loves her.
He loves her.
He says that.
He thinks that.
He said it in his mind.
So yay.
Yeah.
Well, it's probably not going to pay out for him.
So, uh, I, okay.
Well, I listen, I have to say, um, well, the episodes in 13
episodes in for, uh, for, uh, someone like distinctly saying
they're in love with somebody else.
Is that a record for all the show Joe?
We've watched so far at 13 episodes.
Yeah.
Or was it like episode two for Tai Chi?
He didn't say it out loud.
He didn't, but he knows for sure.
Right.
Like there's like clarity here.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know what Tai Chi is like a parent that he
was entered, but none of them would say love probably cause
they're high schoolers.
Yeah.
I like Andre and Oscar and I don't like Tai Chi.
So.
Well, that's cause I don't, we don't like to hire.
Yeah.
Anyway, that's a sweet moment.
Uh, they think a risk and Oscar dreams about Rose Pierre,
a second in the innkeeper telling her about their plate.
She's waking up by a sound and Andre says it's just the wind,
but then the narrator says that perhaps it was the collective
people letting out a sigh from the unbearable suffering in
which they endure every day.
Maybe what Oscar heard was the faint heartbeat of revolution
that will take France by storm as we cut to credits.
So it was such a crazy last sentiment.
I kind of like this framing.
Like I like how the narrator is just constantly being like,
and everything's going to go to shit.
Do you like that?
Well, yeah, I mean, like it's a historical show.
It says not like it's nothing that we aren't already aware is
going to happen.
So just every historical show does that.
Okay.
Well, I guess I haven't watched that many.
I guess that's true.
Most of them probably don't have narrators and stuff like that.
Uh, yeah.
I'm like, just as a like just hang tight folks and it's going to
get crazy here.
Yeah.
Well, it's it's I associate this a lot with Dune because like I
watched the like a lot like the, you know, the Dune movies,
part one and part two or whatever.
And the first part of Dune in the book is to is talked about
like this, like it tells you what's going to happen essentially
and it tells you who's going to be portrayed and who's going to
die tragically and all that stuff.
Like it says that like when they introduce the characters kind
of in the same way this is doing.
And I thought that was a really cool thing that the book did.
And so I tend to like that, but I don't, I haven't seen it in a
lot of other stuff and like the movies take that out entirely
because they just kind of present everything sequentially.
Yeah.
Uh, but that is like a maneuver I do like.
I forgot to mention it, but I laughed when we, when they're on
their way to the little town and they stopped by like a pond
and Oscar just has like a twig in her mouth.
Like she was just funny.
She puts like a reading her mouth in the country.
Yeah.
This is the most fun she's had in the show, maybe for sure.
100%.
Yeah.
And then it's becomes a bummer immediately.
Yeah.
All right.
Anymore, any more notes about episode 13?
Nope.
All right.
Episode 14 is called the angel secret.
We open on Oscar and Andre returning to Paris after 10 days
of being gone, Oscar reflects on the events of last episodes
and how things are going to shit and everyone blames Maria
to a net.
They passed a spot where Oscar ran into Rosalie several
episodes ago and Oscar wonders whatever happened to her.
Well, we probably won't see her again.
So let's not worry about it.
We pan to the basement apartment where Rosalie and her mom live.
Her mom hasn't recovered from her sickness and doesn't seem to
be getting any better, but tries to get up so she can like get a
job so they won't run out of money and starve to death.
But Rosalie insists that she stay in bed.
She says that she's happy to take care of her mother, which
causes her mom to look away and cry.
Rosalie tries to reassure her as the OP plays back at Versailles.
Maria is delighted to see Madam Polyak.
Polyak, however, tells her that she's actually here to say
goodbye and Maria is horrified to be left alone once again and
demands to know why she must leave.
Polyak tells her that even though she moved to Versailles,
her family still isn't rich so they don't have like servants
or like a high paying job and everyone kind of wonders why
they're there.
And they feel extremely out of place and it's embarrassing.
And Maria is like, oh, oh, oh, Madam Polyak,
you should have just told me this earlier.
I can rectify this immediately.
I'll just make up a position for your husband and I'll just get
you everything you need.
I hate her.
She's so stupid.
It's so clear what's happening.
Oh.
The other nobles at court are scandalized that a mere singer
is now being made one of the richest, most powerful women at
court and it's all because of Marie.
They make her a count.
It becomes countess Polyak the next time we see her.
They give her like a high level no, like a nobility title.
It's wild.
Yeah.
Can you do that?
It's running the entire country.
Like do Barry had to kill a guy and they just let Polyak do it.
Yeah, I mean, this is, I think the most like, well,
I guess do Barry Netever never could have teamed up with Marie
because Marie is prejudice against prostitutes.
Yeah.
But like she could have played her.
I feel like you could have, you could have played her.
Yeah.
She's bringing easiest.
So easy to do.
Stockered by this lady.
She just gets wrecked these next two episodes.
I could do this. Yes.
Yeah.
I mean, it just happens all the time.
Like half of the subplots are this exact thing.
That's just like this person is going to scheme their way up to
court and it turns out it's actually pretty easy.
So annoying.
Oh, it's so funny.
Polyak visits her daughter Charlotte,
who is pumped to have a nice dress and Polyak thinks to herself
that her family was on the verge of ruins before and now she's on the
up and up.
So like, yeah, things are, things are, everything's turning up.
Polyak,
surely my luck will continue in all things and not be later.
Like her daughter's cute and maybe it's like, oh, maybe she's not as bad
because it's like she's got a family that she's now taking care of
with this where it was just Madame Dewberry on her own.
Destroying property.
Yeah, we get more of that way.
Like we get a whole another scene with Polyak,
which is like much more clarifying it to me about like what's what her deal
is elsewhere. Marie is delighted that she was able to make her friend happy.
The narrator tells us that Marie came to believe that if she were happy,
then the people would be happy as well.
This was her first fatal mistake.
I was just embarrassed.
She's so desperate.
It's embarrassing.
Every time we get a scene like this,
I just imagine what Empress Teresa is thinking.
She's probably just like, I just got the worst vision that my daughter is an
idiot.
She's probably disowned her in her mind.
She's just like, why did I have to send her out of all of them?
Why did I send her?
Oh, that's right.
We still haven't seen Oscars sisters.
What happened to them?
I don't know.
I see them unresolved.
Oh, I don't know.
Maybe we'll get more on them later, just like how her mom suddenly became a
character. Maybe they'll just suddenly become characters.
We cut to the Jarje's manner.
Oscar greets her father and he calmly sets down his book and walks over to Oscar
and then slaps the hell out of her.
She like falls to the ground.
God, how many times has he hit her?
He's like, I can't believe you went on a trip while you were under disciplinary
confinement.
You're on like house arrest.
You can't go on a trip.
Do you have any idea how much trouble you would have gotten in it?
And like Marie would have also gotten in trouble.
What are you doing?
Which I kind of feel like is a little fair.
I feel like this is a fair criticism.
Like I don't think you should like smack your daughter so hard she falls to the
floor.
But like she really shouldn't have just left like that.
That's wild.
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
Well, I just felt bad for the nanny who's like, you're putting me in a tough
spot here and she didn't care at all.
She's totally right.
She's just kind of been a wild child her whole life who has not
certain herself with others expectations of her.
Yeah, it's interesting because like if Oscar doesn't feel or like feels like she
did something that was just or like justifiable, then she just doesn't give
a shit about the consequences.
She's like, I don't care that I got this thing for shooting a guy.
I don't even like that guy.
But as justify the means.
Yeah.
I do like that about Oscar.
Yeah.
Anyway, Oscar apologizes, but tells him that she's learned that Marie's approval
ratings are in the dumps and the peasants on their estate are like in near
depravity.
Things are real bad out there.
Somebody should do something before it's too late.
General Jarjay stares at the window for a long time.
And then eventually he tells Oscar that she's an officer of the Royal Guards.
So this shouldn't concern her if she has time to think about this stuff.
She should be practicing sword fighting or something.
Oscar is incensed and curses an ability as Andre looks on.
Yeah.
I'm like, this is already so good at swordsmanship.
Like, she doesn't need to improve.
I love this scene because it makes it very clear that like, oh, General Jarjays knows
this already.
Yeah.
Like he this is the most is just like, oh, yeah, he knows this is a problem.
Like he knows they're all screwed.
Well, it's gonna be frustrating because one Andre was like, oh, don't worry about it.
Now her father's like, it's not your business.
So it's just constantly like my, you know, look away from this, you know, deny your justice.
Yeah.
And just like Andre is like, oh, it'll probably resolve itself.
Like, I don't think you should like lose sleep over this.
Whereas her dad is like, you're not allowed to think about this.
Like, I know you care about this.
You need to stop caring about.
I like the whole curse nobility.
Yeah.
Wouldn't it be bad if you thought that like your whole like country was like falling apart
at the seams very slowly because the people in charge are completely inept, but you just
couldn't do anything about it.
Wouldn't that be like messed up?
Anyway, back in Paris, Countess Pauliak goes to a shop to buy a dress in the back.
Rosalie is trying to get a job.
She gets lucky and they have an opening and she lands the job and she thinks to herself
that things are finally starting to go her way with this job.
They can afford food and medicine at the same time.
Can you believe it?
All in out elsewhere.
Rosalie's mind was not wearing shoes.
Wonders the street.
She turns the corner and is struck by a carriage.
Okay.
This is the moment we were talking about earlier, right?
Oh man, you thought Rosalie was getting ready.
It turns out it runs in the family.
I didn't realize those were all foreshadowing.
Yeah.
Apple doesn't fall apart from the tree.
Oh my God.
Is this like a common occurrence back then?
I can see it being an issue.
How often did well with the house the mall century, the roads are.
People get run over by carriages.
Carriage accidents and remedies in the night in the 17 and 1800s.
This is a whole book.
What is this?
There's a whole book.
It must be a lot.
Yeah.
There are a lot.
Causes for carriage accidents.
Drivers, careless drivers, furious drivers, ignorance drivers, intoxication.
Wow.
Yeah, I guess, I guess this happened a lot.
Yeah.
Not a Mark honor though.
Her mom looks totally fine.
Not believing or anything.
Yeah.
She doesn't look like she is on death's door, but bad news.
She's not going to make it.
Yeah.
One of Rosalie's neighbors rushes to her and tells her that her mom
was just ran over and then they rushed to the scene.
Everyone's just kind of standing around looking at her mom collapse on
the ground.
Her mom looks pretty bad, even though she kind of looks like she could go
either way.
We see that in the carriage is one Countess,
Paul, the act who looks on to strive crowd.
A big crowd is gathered as Rosalie rushes to her mother.
She looks up to see Paul, the act.
They make eye contact, which frees Paul, the act out and she tells her
driver to get out of there.
A man in an overcoat tells her that she just hit somebody.
At least she could like apologize or get out or like do something.
Paul, the act says that it was that woman's fault for running in
front of her carriage.
And if they have any complaints, they can just go make them at Versailles
and then takes off in her dying breasts.
Rosalie's mom reveals that she isn't Rosalie's biological mother.
Her real mother is a noble named Martin a Gabrielle.
She apologizes again for their hard life and then dies.
Rosalie cries over her now dead mother.
I guess I was like, right.
Because we saw her has the tape to like reveal some truth earlier and I
just thought that was going to be like, oh, we're not.
Or I knew some kind of like someone was not her daughter,
but I thought it was going to be seen who wasn't her daughter. So that
wasn't royal.
But now it's like, are they both and just from different families?
Yeah.
Well, maybe that is her daughter and Rosalie.
But she said that they're like a descendants of that because that's
true for Rosalie.
But they also she was also telling them that they were sisters.
So John's just like, oh, by like association that also goes to me.
Yeah.
I will say that given the way things are going, whether or not
you're like legitimate royalty or nobility does not seem to matter
at all.
That's true.
I'm sure you just got to get in dummy Marie's good graces.
Yeah.
You just need to find some stupid naive noble and then get into their
house and then you can either kill them by poisoning them or lighting
them on fire or you can just flatter them and trap them.
It's to be the move.
Marie and Paul.
The act returned.
Marie notices that Madame Jarge's isn't looking so great.
She seems like real tired.
She's like, you should go lie down as Paul.
The act thinks about how she accidentally killed some girl's
mom or a way or feels bad about that.
We jumped to Rosalie crying over her mother's grave.
She thinks about what Paul.
The act said about seeking her in Versailles.
The man from before is here and he introduces himself as Bernard
Chetelet and he's a journalist.
He tells Rosalie to see him if she ever wants to talk.
But instead Rosalie decides that she's going to walk all the way to
Versailles, which is like going to take her all day and just starts to do that.
Later that night, Marie Paul, the act and Madame Jarge's are hanging out on the
balcony.
Suddenly Madame Jarge's just collapses back at the Jarge's matter.
Oscar thinks about how her what her dad said about like why you shouldn't
care about the country's imminent collapse and starts to practice
sword fighting instead.
Andre Burson tells her about her mother and they write off to Versailles
while writing they pass one extremely tired looking Rosalie.
She sees the Jarge's matter and mistakes it for the palace.
Oscar and Andre reach Versailles.
Andre rushes in but Oscar must wait outside because she's still
technically in detention.
She sees Marie in a carriage and stops her.
Marie tells her that her mom seems like she's going to be okay.
She just like collapsed momentarily.
She also tells Oscar that she should report in tomorrow because it's been
a month and her confinement is now over.
Oscar thanks her and Paul Neac, who's also in that carriage tells her that
they need to leave for the ball so they go off to a ball even though
their girl just passed out.
Yeah, that's wild.
What time do we think it is?
Like how old they are?
No, like what are the hours of the day that they are active and what
days are they sleeping?
Do they just like stay up really late and sleep in?
It seems like Marie keeps going out to balls and staying out really late.
I think Madame Jarje is like supposed to stay up to see her back.
But she's like a she's like a much older lady.
So she's probably getting kept up to like 3 a.m. or something every night.
Well, it looks like it was daylight when they came back.
Yeah, yeah, they did then.
I don't know what they were doing then.
A razor all night long.
Yeah.
She just goes to a party.
She's like, damn sorry about your mom.
No.
Later Oscar and Madame Jarje is right back to the Jarje's manner.
Madame Jarje is looking all right, but she she's like, I was just fatigued.
But she's fine now.
They pull up to the house and we see Rosalie hiding in a bush as Oscar
and her mom get out of the carriage.
Rosalie sees Madame Jarje's and remembers how the woman in the carriage
that killed her mom had blonde curly hair and was wearing a blue
floral dress pattern just like Madame Jarje is doing now.
That must be the woman that killed my mom.
She pulls a knife and rushes Madame Jarje saying that this is for killing her mother.
Oscar gets in front of her and easily disarms her and they recognize each other up close.
Rosalie realizes that Madame Jarje's is not the woman in the carriage.
They just they just had the same outfit and she collapses to the ground crying.
Why did she get that dagger?
It's so funny.
It's like a it's like a cartoon dagger to it's got like a hill.
Everything like that thing you stab someone with it's not like like a kitchen knife.
No. Yeah. Where did that come from?
Dude, you think she stole it?
I think she stole it.
There's no way.
Well, because it shows some like, oh, it's a family heirloom and blah, blah, blah, something.
Family.
Well, right.
Right. I'm like kind of an artistic looking hill.
So you think it's more like expensive one.
It did seem like a nice knife.
Yeah.
It's the next day and Rosalie feels Oscar and Andre and about what happened.
Oscar drags Rosalie to the top floor of the manor so she could see the actual palace of Versailles,
which is a huge sprawling gated mansion.
She's like, listen, you're never going to be able to like sneak in there.
It's heavily guarded, so that's not going to work.
Also, this is just like my house. This is not big enough to be a palace. Come on.
And then she says that all of the women at court have blonde curly hair and are going to wear floral, the dress patterns like they all have like multiple dress patterns.
That's one of them.
So like that's not going to be enough information to figure out who you're supposed to kill.
Rosalie cries and says that she's angry that after all of this, she won't even be able to avenge her mom or like do anything at all.
The peasants just really can't do anything to get any kind of justice for themselves.
Oscar hears this and offers to teach her how to use a sword.
She's like, as you are now, there's no way you could kill anybody.
Like your technique is terrible. Like you wouldn't have been able to stab me.
You'd have messed up. What if I taught you how to kill a guy, Rosalie?
If she was revenge, she must study the blade.
It's confusing because she's like, oh, you must become a lady, but also learn how to use a sword.
Yeah. She's like, in order to see the women that you like, you're going to have to look at them one by one to find out who the real killer is.
So in order to be at the palace, you have to be like a lady of the court who's like good enough to be there.
You got to like walk, you know,
I've asked Oscar's mom if they saw anyone wearing an outfit like she described because I was the same day and see that the palace.
Maybe she could have identified. What's her face?
Holy act.
Only act. Yeah. Yeah.
Oscar puts her hand on Rosalie's shoulder as they're both in cahoots now as we cut the credits.
What I like so badly want a like episode that's just like a my fair lady,
but instead of Oscar treating her just to be a lady, it's also so she can become an assassin.
That would be so good.
Well, it's right. Everything gets put on the back burner.
So maybe we'll just it's just going to be like, oh, and now she's good at this.
And there's no training montage.
No training arc.
I can see it being like maybe Andre does the training when Oscar is busy and then him and Rosalie get closer.
Yeah, maybe who do you think's going to teach Rosalie to be a proper lady the granny?
I guess. Yeah.
She never got to do with Oscar.
Oscar doesn't know how to do it.
Yeah. No way.
And I like Oscar is just like, yeah, let's get you ready to kill immediately on board.
Just 100% being like, you know, I'm in my revenge era.
I'm all about revenge on a guy.
And then I was put in like home containment and I just left like, fuck him. Who cares? I'm going on the trip.
I was treating it like a vacation.
Yeah. It's so funny.
Just like whatever. Yeah, I'll help you kill a guy. Yeah. Hell yeah.
I think you should have been your mom, but you need to do it with a sword.
Get this dagger shit out of here.
Yeah, I know.
Like a source seems very obvious and like not to scream.
Oh my God. Imagine publicly saying this lady, but I guess they get away with killing people all the time.
So just like under those big dresses they have, she just pulls out an entire ass sword.
Yeah, that would be incredible.
We'll see.
Oh, I'm wondering.
Does she like as she's fraternizing with the enemy, does she run into who is supposed to be her mom?
Or is her mom still kicking? Why is she just bad?
I mean, she's probably still like around.
Yeah, so I'm guessing we'll have that at some point as well.
She's going to run into Jean soon.
Oh, right. Yeah. Well, that lady wasn't going to court though.
If she just inherited her title and stuff.
She's got it coordinated, but she's going to show up.
Yeah.
Can you imagine like you've just schemed your way until like being an aristocrat and you like to finally get to the palace and you get there.
And you're like your sister is there and she's like an assassin now.
Maybe she'll have to kill her own sister too.
If she starts to game too hard.
There's some gamers.
I don't know how they're going to interact with each other.
You think she can do a team up?
She's like, listen, I know we don't get along, but this lady killed her mom.
I don't think she does.
I'll talk about her mom.
I don't know, you know, no, she's like a private thing.
Like, oh, you're just going to kill my mom and get away with it.
I'm ready. I'm ready for the messy drama.
Yeah, it's going to get crazy at some point.
Well, I'm a what portion?
Okay.
Because we're not even halfway.
I wonder what, like how much of this is going to be revolution time or if that's going to be like the ending arc of the show.
Like, this is always off.
I mean, like so far, the pace has been pretty quick.
Yes, it's hard to tell how much time has passed, but right because it's still like a while until the revolution starts.
Yeah, I feel like the last 10 episodes will be that or like, you know, eight episodes or will be like revolution time.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah.
Get to the next episode.
Annoying Marie Antoinette time.
Yeah, we open on Marie having a nightmare about being scorned for not having a child as the OP plays.
We come back to Oscar and Giroudel doing some rounds.
Oscar says it's good to be back, but then they're almost ran over by Madame Polyaxe carriage.
So like this is the driver.
Like the driver just sucks.
She just has a bad driver.
Yeah.
What did he say about like people on the rise don't know how not to rush or something?
Oh, yeah.
Giroudel is like, man, like these new new new new new.
Like these new nobility don't know how to just take it slow.
They got to rush into everything.
That's our hot new money.
These new egg.
Don't know how to be proper elites.
Giroudel is so pretty.
Dude, Giroudel is funny.
He's like, I bet she's going to go off to gamble some more at the casino and Oscar is like, who?
And he tells her about matter or about a countess Polyaxe because I guess Oscar hasn't heard about her yet.
And Oscar is just made that Marie.
It was so lonely that she'd get swindled by some rando.
She should be surprised.
I shouldn't be surprised by any of this.
Back at court, Duke early on and Duke Guamina loudly gossip about how women in the East get divorced if they don't bear a child in three years.
And I have to say Duke Guamina's hand seems totally fine to me.
I was going to say, I'm surprised to get any like.
He should be like wrapped up.
You know what I mean?
It should be like, it should be.
He should have like an iron hand or something.
He should have a hook.
Oh my God.
They should have given Duke Guamina a hook.
Imagine if he's just like a pirate man, it would be so good with his mustache.
It would be in theme with goofy villain Duke early on for his monkey to have a can.
Yeah.
Marie over here is this is embarrassed because it's been five years.
She's been married for five years and hasn't had a child yet.
If she can't get pregnant, that's going to be a huge problem.
Duke Guamina discusses a potential succession crisis.
Marie can't produce an heir who's going to be the next king.
Maybe it should be my boy Duke early on.
You know what I'm saying?
Everybody and everybody talks about how a succession crisis could be a huge problem and everybody could get involved.
They could get bad enough that like Austria and Prussia get involved and that would be terrible.
Marie locks herself in her room and won't and won't let anybody in including Countess Knowles and Count Mercy.
But she will let Paul the acting though.
Paul the act tells Marie that there's one way out of this problem and that's to fake being pregnant.
Marie doesn't want to Paul.
Nick says that she heard a story about a queen who couldn't get pregnant and then they poisoned her.
So like it talks, you know, clocks ticking.
So this is kind of like a do or die scenario.
Marie eventually agrees to the plan.
Paul the act thinks to herself that she now controls the queen as lightning cracks across the screen.
She comes out and informs everyone that Queen Marie is pregnant.
She just heard from her.
And by next fall, there will be a new air and everyone's like, oh, that's great.
And then his horse. What?
Why don't they never talk about like, well, I'm assuming the reason she hasn't got pregnant is because she doesn't, you know, I do this next scene is probably so funny.
Art interacting at all.
And that's why.
Yes.
His fault.
As much as it is hers.
Yes.
I mean, not being able to get pregnant or not is not really a choice.
You normally make all that much.
So it's like not your fault.
It's true. You do need to actually have sex.
The grooming is the thing that makes the next scene extremely funny in his forge.
King Louis is informed that the queen is pregnant and he seems very shocked.
He seems shocked like a man who hasn't actually had sex with his wife yet.
Oh, he's going along with it.
Yeah.
He's like, well, great.
I guess he just hangs out in his forge still.
He doesn't do his job.
He's still in there.
He's still making locks.
Yeah.
He's like, the guy comes in.
He's like, I thought I didn't ask not to be interrupted.
He's still doing this.
This is his life.
What is he doing?
Nothing.
Where are these locks going?
Are they being used?
Dude, oh my God.
Is he like selling them under a pseudonym so like people will buy them?
Only if he needs to give that money back to the people then.
Dude.
Oh, that.
Yeah.
Oh man.
That's the way of counteracting.
That's the pay for all the spending his wife does.
Do you think the locks are even good or do you think they're just like kind of okay?
You know what I mean?
Like he has okay talent for it.
I bet his locks.
I have no idea.
I would hope so with how much is being sacrificed to do that.
Do go early on and do me now are pissed off.
We just see that scene of them being pissed.
Oscar congratulates Marie on her pregnancy and gives her a gift of baby clothes that her
mom made.
But Marie is so sad that she's lying to everybody, including Oscar that she runs off.
Marie thinks to herself that she can't live with this lie.
And Polyac saying that she must live with this lie because like, come on.
And she's like, don't worry about it.
We'll take care of everything.
We have a doctor on payroll who will just say whatever we want.
I'll even find you a baby when the time comes for you to deliver.
We'll just, we'll just get you a baby.
How hard could that be?
There's like tons of babies, whatever, which made me think about how many of these people
that are supposed to be like Royal are actually Royal and not just like some random kid they
pulled.
They picked up from somewhere.
Yeah.
That happens a lot.
It really happened like a decent amount.
Well, then why didn't they do that for Oscar and ensure they got a son?
Just get a big boy.
That's true.
But that does feel like a huge blender.
And then you're going to be stressed out that people find out that you did that for the
rest of your life.
And then what happens to your illegitimate child?
You just go along with it.
If I learned anything from Game of Thrones is that if you, if you notice something, maybe
you just don't say anything.
Maybe you just keep it to yourself.
Maybe a lot of people wouldn't die if you just kept it to yourself.
I think Ed Stark sucks.
Anyway, Marie is extremely distraught.
Polyneac recommends a fun activity to take your mind off of things.
How about like, I don't know, gambling, you ever been gambling?
But Marie said, but she's like, Madame Polyneac gambling is illegal and Polyneac is like, ah,
come on.
It'll just do it like one time.
Like, come on.
It's just one time.
It's not illegal if it's one time.
Oh my God.
Marie convinces King Louis to let her gamble a little.
She's like, I'm just going to try it one time.
How bad could it be?
And the King's like, oh, I don't know.
I guess so.
Whatever.
You seem sad.
Sure.
And he agrees because he's a pushover.
The lady set up a roulette parlor and Versailles.
Oh, I skipped a, I skipped a section earlier.
Well, I was going to say that the King does kind of at least he seems vaguely aware of
the fact that the people are in trouble and they's like, because if, if you and me gamble,
we're gambling the people's money.
Yeah.
And that's the problem.
Yeah.
I skipped over a scene that happened really early in the episode and it's a scene where
Madame Polyneac and her friend are at a casino and they talk about how addicted to gambling
they are and how it's bankrupting all of them.
And this is a scheme that Polyneac came up with early in the episode to swindle money
out of Marie.
So I forgot to, I forgot to mention that that happens.
They're all hopelessly addicted to gambling and it's roulette.
How do you get addicted to roulette?
I don't know.
I've never gambled.
So the least fun one to do, like I, you know, it's fun to play like a couple of games.
But imagine doing that for hours.
I mean, come on.
Well, it's boring back then.
That's true.
You know what?
I feel like here's my theory, right?
Which is we know that Marie likes to play card games a lot because there's just nothing
better to do.
And I've realized that Marie and Tuanette is a gamer.
You think if she was alive now, she'd be just be doing like Twitch streams all the
time.
And I feel like she would just be a social media influencer.
She's playing like a shit ton of Bellatro.
Maybe.
Which would be like a Btuber to hide her royal identity.
No, I don't think so.
I think she'd be like out there.
I think she'd be like the masquerade where she just like do something very subtle to
be like, I'm in incognito Oscar.
Don't worry about it.
And Oscar is like anybody that can see your background.
They can see you're in the palace.
You didn't even turn on IP masking.
Everybody can see where you're broadcasting from.
Oh, man.
I'd that would be so good.
There's like a motes account.
Mercy shows up in the background.
Has anybody done that?
Somebody has to have like a like a Twitch channel where the gimmick is they like roleplay as
Marie Antoinette, right?
That has to be real.
No, we'll have to look into that in a later date and not right now, Joe.
Okay.
Sorry.
Yeah.
We're still in the episode.
Let's go.
We're going to be set up a roulette parlor in Versailles.
Pontiac.
Let's Marie win the first couple rounds, but then starts running the table.
The narrator that tells us that while gambling, Marie can forget about her lie and enjoy herself,
which is does seem to be the true thing that happens about people that are addicted to
gambling.
So this is a good job on the show for getting that right.
Over time, Pontiac has caused Marie to lose a lot of money.
A lot.
And then they translate to.
We get a dollar.
And then from the year.
Yeah, I transcribed it to how much money that would be in USD today.
At the Jargeres manner, Oscar looks out at the palace, Andre jokes, then Marie is probably
gambling right now and Oscar hopes that Marie isn't addicted.
But Andre is like, yeah, I mean, she's obviously addicted.
She's already lost like a bunch of money.
Oscar gets mad and kicks his chair out from under him and then rides off to the palace.
Well, I'm sure being thrown around these episodes, she just kicks his chair and he's like, come on.
Although the thing Andre always does were like, something's going bad and she's like,
I hope things aren't going bad.
He's like, oh yeah, they're definitely going bad.
It's like very funny.
Like that's their dynamic.
Pontiac and her collaborators think that they can now pay off their gambling debts and then
and then have some even left over.
She realizes that her life was miserable before she was trying to live as a virtuous lady.
You can't survive by being good natured.
If you wish for something, you have to take it.
That's what she learned.
She's like, my husband's an idiot for being a nice guy.
You need to be a scheming, conniving little devil.
That's how you get stuff.
And she probably isn't wrong.
Yeah.
Yep.
Right.
Poor husband will never see him, but he's just blaming him for everything.
Yeah.
Justin Oscar burst in.
She accused Pontiac of getting Maria addicted to gambling and stealing money from her.
She's like, you're going to come with me and confess your crimes and Pontiac is like, oh, yeah.
If I did that, like everyone's going to find out that Marie's just been gambling away.
Huge sums of money.
Who do you think is going to be like disgraced by that?
You think it's really going to come back to me, but like it's mostly going to be her getting in trouble.
You know, don't you care about Marie's reputation, Oscar and Oscar is like, damn, I didn't think about that.
She's so bad at scheming.
I thought maybe Oscar could scheme because she's now training an assassin, but I, she still doesn't have that.
She still doesn't have it.
No, it's because she's for some reason thinks positively of Marie Antoinette.
And so she's not imagining the worst case scenario of how people feel about her.
A voiceover tells us that Marie's gambling's debt have run up to half a million levers, which is roughly equivalent to $64 million in today's money.
That is insane.
How could she do that?
She's really bad at roulette.
She's stupid.
She can't do math probably.
Oh my God.
Mercy explains this to her and says that she's being swindled by Pontiac.
She calls Pontiac in and Pontiac does a great sad sack like sob story about how everybody in court scheming against her because she's a commoner.
She's like, I've caused you so many problems, Marie.
I'll withdraw from court tomorrow.
And Marie being easily manipulated decides to protect Polyak instead.
So way to get like totally rolled.
A woman's tears.
They work on everyone, not just men.
God, don't leave her alone with her.
No, she can't be trusted.
No, you can have like Oscar on 24 hour bodyguard duty to be like, right there.
Yeah, for real.
Elsewhere, Andre and Oscar spar.
Andre tells Oscar that he knows that she's conflicted, but she needs to be careful about how she like deals with stuff to protect Marie's reputation.
Oscar doesn't say anything and just disarms Andre.
We got to Oscar appearing before Marie and Pontiac.
Oscar makes a formal request to Marie drawing her sword and everything to please stop gambling.
Marie is touched and tells her to sheath her sword because she's already decided to stop and Polyak's like, yep, we're done here.
Everything works out and then she drags Marie off.
Marie is still out of sorts about lying about the pregnancy thing.
And Pontiac tells her that there's an opportunity for them to get out of the lie right now.
Ray is like, great, let's just do it.
Polyak gathers Marie's inner circle and tells them that the Marie has had a miscarriage.
And it's because Oscar drew her sword in front of her and everyone just believes this.
It's just like there would be evidence that they would find blood, they would clean up and see that there wasn't any.
Yeah.
You think that people would try to verify this in any way?
Well, I would think that whatever made was like doing her lines or your something would expect to see stained, you know, skirts or whatever from the miscarriage and like.
Be expecting that.
And then when they didn't see it, be suspicious.
Yeah, you'd think.
We get a scene of Oscar walking around while everybody stares daggers at her for.
Bruining the succession.
Marie is distraught that Alster is being dragged into this now and Polyak apologizes but says this was the only way Marie cries as we cut the credits.
That's good when Marie cries.
I'm very I don't care about that as much.
Well, because there's never for the important.
It was not the same way as it does when Oscar does.
Yeah.
What do you think?
Yeah, these are good episodes.
I am I'm kind of the players like I hope Oscar dies at the revolution and sees the one who had some re-enternet.
It's so not happening, but I can help.
It like so feels like that's the way it's going, right?
Yes. Well, it's just like I feel like it's got to be that this whole need.
Oh, I'm saying only.
Like holding that.
Only act.
Is just going to take Marie so much that there's no reason with her and then it'll just force Oscar's hand to side against her.
They said this lady is going to be around for 10 years.
That sounds like the time of which the revolution will be taking place.
Yeah, I am. I'm very shocked that we're like 15 episodes in and we're already at Oscar being like fuck the nobility.
Yeah, it really seems like this is going to be a thing where like Oscar does want to do the revolution, but she still likes some of the people she personally knows.
Yeah.
Well, I guess right. It just takes some time for a few things to cultivate.
Like we saw Rosalie a lot, but like you played an incredibly minor role, but it seems like she's going to be coming up as like a primary character.
Holly, once she's all settled.
I don't know is Oscar's dad saying anything like who's is a random take in our house or everyone's gonna be fine with it.
Yeah.
You think her mom's going to be like, oh, it's the chick who tried to kill me.
Well, she seems sympathetic to the girl.
Yeah.
I'm just I think that the biggest problem is I wish they would have discussed like why she isn't getting pregnant or like does she want to say.
Yeah, like how she tried.
She cares about being well, yeah, or like her thoughts on the matter of why she hasn't or if she wants to.
Yeah.
We just see her being upset about people talking about her but not being upset about why.
Yeah. No, you're right. That would have been better.
Yeah, it feels less.
Well, like me because she has strong feelings about it, then maybe that would make more sense as to why she's willing to like lie about it and stuff.
If there was like a thing like she just really didn't want it.
I don't know.
She just doesn't have sex with her husband.
Yes.
She's like, well, I wanted the first one was still around and she'd be like, hey, I bet she could get pregnant with first and baby.
I bet that wouldn't be hard at all.
No.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Uh huh.
I bet that could happen.
Yeah.
You said she has four kids at some point.
She does.
She has more kids later.
Yeah.
This is all mysterious doorstep babies.
This did the fake pregnancy miscarriage happened.
Is Poneaka a person?
Maybe not.
Maybe this is like a myth.
I don't actually know.
Oh, is Poneaka a person?
I believe so.
Uh huh.
Let me make sure I spell the name correctly.
Let me tell you.
I normally don't.
Uh, yes.
Okay.
Was real.
Don't spoil anything for us.
Okay.
She has a long neck in the show.
Incredibly long neck.
Like a giraffe.
Uh, this is the, do you want to see a portrait of her?
Sure.
Right next to my portrait.
Yeah.
Uh, yeah, she looks pretty good.
Yeah.
Uh huh.
Yeah.
Let's see.
Well, okay.
And here I, we just like out of nowhere comes like the big bad.
Like this is, I love this.
I love how both the big bad is just like some rando.
And like, she's not even that bad at the beginning.
Like at the beginning, she's just like kind of a normal person
that's just like, Oh, like good things are happening to me now.
But then she's realizing that like,
there are people unless they're like, Oh.
Um, you don't know what's happening to me.
So what about closing your doors now?
Do you want me to like do this Optimus En generating that things,
keep this, this thing coming up?
Like what's in store for you?
Okay.
You want me to, you know,
keep this and like kill someone with your courage.
You might as well go wrong all in after that.
Well, it's like,
I love how she.
Realizes over time.
That the way you get ahead in this society is by scheming.
it off and then she does and she's like, Oh, okay, I could just pull this off.
Like this isn't even that hard.
Yeah. I love that. Yeah.
Yeah. Anyone who meets Marie would dawn on them how well she can be so stubborn
in certain ways. It's annoying that she's not more.
She doesn't have more conviction with things other than just if you're a prostitute or not.
That's the only thing we've seen her stand her ground on. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, yes.
God, when we do our character rankings, Marie Antoinette,
dead blast in my rankings.
Characters.
Yeah. Yeah. It does not come across great.
Oscar, I feel like I want to see her train Rosalie so bad.
That is such a good subplot for Oscar.
We will see.
I love Oscar is not on board for this, even though she doesn't even know who it is.
She's just like, Oh, it's some noble. Yeah, you can get revenge. Whatever.
Is it could be somebody I know. I don't care.
I think you should get it anyway. Just immediately on board. It's so good.
Yeah.
And by your attempted assassination of your mother, girl, into your home.
Yeah. Don't be like, Hey, mom, are you comfortable with this?
I know she just started stab you, but let's let her mom just like, yeah, it's fine.
Like whatever. Yeah. No, it's okay.
No, I like to do that.
I want to do whatever makes you happy, honey.
It's so funny. Her mom is so chill.
Yeah. Oh, man. It's so good.
Yeah. I like how I do Ramina and do poorly on her.
Just like so sidelined as villains now.
They just like gossip.
That's the most damage they can do now.
Women are the ones running the show here.
Yeah, it's because Louis doesn't do shit.
And Marie's apparently in charge of everything, I guess.
Yeah.
Madness.
You very had to seduce her way.
Marie is so easy.
You just got to like pay attention to her in the most minimal way.
And that'll do it.
Yeah. I guess one thing we haven't gotten in terms of like the French Revolution
really into it all.
And it's kind of touched upon here for a moment is when
Robes beer, the monk thing.
Yeah, when Rose, Peter talks about the clergy, because like the clergy,
you know, is like the first estate or whatever, right?
So they're like in charge of like education
and like welfare and that kind of stuff.
They are also being extremely opulent in like a similar way.
So in his case, it's like someone that these
like monks or something are trying to like seize peasant land or something like that.
So that's also happening.
I guess we haven't really touched on that.
I wonder how much that's going to come up.
I know that John was scheming with that cardinal or whatever.
So. Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, this makes sense.
I just when I think here, monk, I just think of like
a Buddhist monk.
Oh, yeah.
A lot of serious and stuff is a whole thing.
Yeah.
Well, oh my God, the revenge plus going to be so good.
I want to watch Rosalie Killing Eye.
Well, you guys got killed.
Yeah, I mean, this lady.
I want her to kill like a bunch of people.
I want her to go on like a like a kill bill style.
Imagine all kill Bill, but it's just Rosalie.
I don't know if she's going to be that good.
We'll see.
I guess she's determined.
I was like what after the fact what happened?
She's just like gets caught and she's fine dying.
Or just have other hopes and dreams.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm the I don't know what they're going to do.
Or she's going to be like Oscar's little apprentice or something.
How much she'll be introduced to court.
Yeah. New question.
How much do we like?
How do you like the Oscar Andre relationship?
Because I guess we get the part where he says he loves her in his mind.
So I guess that seems to be one option for Oscar.
I feel like Oscar is just going to be platonic with everyone and not fall in love.
She's married to the job.
Yeah, why you think?
I don't know.
I mean, it seems like her like she can't be married to the job
because as her dad says, you can't think about people if you want this job.
Oh, yeah, that's true.
Well, I just I feel like Oscar with like the weird gender dynamic would feel
like do it lose respect or something if she did something like marry
a guy like that would throw her whole.
Yeah, that would be weird otherwise.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
Or maybe she'll just have a side piece.
But not anyone of importance.
And then, yeah, Andre is going to be frustrated by it.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe first and we'll come back in five years and.
Yeah, first and hot.
First, it is hot.
Yes.
And then the guy Rosalie was talking to him.
He's a journalist, so I take it he'll be coming back into play.
Yes, I think he's even though the narrator wasn't like, and this man will soon.
Like she has with everyone else.
Yeah, I don't know.
I will say it's been fascinating or like one thing that has set this show
apart from the other shows we've watched so far to me is the number of subplots,
like continuously continuing subplots.
Yeah, there's a lot.
And like meaningful ones and not just like annoying one off episode things.
But yeah, it's like you have the main thing.
You have like whatever Marie's doing and then there's whatever Oscar is doing.
And then there's like all these side characters doing stuff like what's
Polyneac doing, what's John doing, what's Rosalie doing, what's Duke early on.
You know, there's so many things happening all at the same time.
I'm having a great time with that.
We know what King Louis is doing at all times.
He's always seen these easy kids.
It's crazy.
Oh, man. OK. Yeah.
Well, that's our coverage today.
Yep. Next time.
Yeah. 1617 18.
Yeah, they look forward to that.
Hopefully everyone.
My mic sounds better this week, and this will be the quality you guys
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Yeah, what? Watch me listen back in.
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What lesson of the day?
If if carriages seem drawn to you, ask if anyone else in your life
also has an issue with carriages.
I can't it was like, I know it's obviously like a bad thing when that happens.
But it was so funny to be like the number of times that Rosalie almost got
hit. We had like a Rosalie carriage counter and then her mom gets actually
killed by a carriage.
It's just wild.
This is why they have been signed.
What's her mom doing out?
Like, was she having an episode or something?
I've seen.
Yeah, she was out and about.
It did seem kind of odd.
She wasn't dressed.
Yeah.
Mm hmm.
I never knew what she was actually sick with, which I feel like maybe could have
explained explain because like it's obviously something you could take
medicine for and like she was sick for a long time.
It's not like she had like smallpox, right?
And she would have just been done.
I don't know.
How are you?
Are do you ever find any parallels to this show to maybe our current reality?
Because I have been finding those recently and that's been weird.
Yeah, so.
You likely are staying more informed than I am, but like even me and my under my rock
is unable to avoid it.
So, yeah, I do.
I do see.
I just can't articulate it.
Or I don't have the confidence to speak on it because I just the bits and pieces and
not like continuously staying up to date.
But yeah.
OK, so what revolution coming?
Do you think do you think the US is going to collapse before we finish this show?
Or do you think France is going to collapse before that happens?
Which one do we think is going to happen first?
Probably America, man.
Because we saw when I was halfway through the show.
We got like we got like at least 10 more weeks or something, right?
Yeah.
Now, maybe not quite like eight in that time.
Eight weeks.
Last weeks.
Who knows anything can happen.
Yeah, something will keep you posted.
Should we be speculating on what Oscar's fates going to be?
Like, what do you think is going to happen here at the end?
Well, I said I think she she becomes the well, I hope she becomes the one who
decapitates Marie Antoinette.
I there's just that would be so crazy.
That would be awesome.
But I don't think they're going to do that.
My guess is that my guess is that she'll be exiled.
And my guess is that though, because she's like part of the quarter, whatever.
They'll like want to execute her.
But then she's like helped out so many people that they'll lobby for her
just to get exiled and she like leaves France at the end with Andre.
Andre.
At her side.
That's my guess.
Hmm.
Good.
I guess.
More likely.
I hope that's what happens because I can dream.
Yeah, yours is so funny, though.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, we will see.
Yeah.
Yeah, remember to don't get addicted to gambling.
I read a whole book about this.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, don't get addicted to roulette specifically.
You know how long it takes for them to spin that wheel?
It's like so slow.
It was going.
I bet Marie would be on and on and on.
She plays cards.
I bet she would actually be good at that one.
Like she does.
I don't think she would have a poker face.
Oh, that's true.
She's too pure of heart.
Yeah.
Here.
Well, yeah, pure was part as in she's true to herself and herself
being selfish, right?
Yeah, she should have.
She should have been bored nowadays.
She had been such a good streamer.
You kidding me?
I don't know that laugh is annoying as hell.
Dude, you think she could have.
She could be like a V2 where you think she'd have like a little anime icon.
I feel like she.
But it's just her and then she like turns it off and it's just her.
She's hot as hell.
So that's true.
Maybe she should be a fashion influence.
All right, I'm going to search which right now for Marie Antoinette
and see if somebody's role playing here.
It's such a good.
OK, well, how about you take on that?
That's.
Gosh, oh my God, you should do a stream where you just rest as Marie Antoinette.
It doesn't seem like anyone's doing that, you know, she's in the public domain.
Right.
You can just pretend you can just role play.
You could do a new story where you just role play as Marie Antoinette.
Uh-huh.
I guess I could for the finale, maybe do.
I could do a fun thing.
Yeah.
I swear my hair crazy and laugh annoyingly and get swindled.
Yeah, you could play like a like a.
Name and just lose immediately.
And my mom could be a guest and just be like, you're so stupid.
Like just like her mom.
You're dressed like an actress.
How dare you?
You're the queen of.
Tiny kid.
Where's the tiny kid?
We never see that kid again.
No.
It was so cute.
The cutest cat in the anime, only like a few second.
Yeah, me.
Oh, this is how you know she's becoming the wicked queen because the cat's not there anymore.
No, what happened to it?
Dang, I got out.
No, there's anything she loses interest in things quickly.
All right.
Well, don't get into gambling.
Don't play roulette.
Just don't do it.
Yeah.
But do do avenge your mom.
Get a nice if you're going to avenge your mom, get a nice dagger, like really spend the money on the dagger.
The money you don't have money you don't have.
I mean, she doesn't need it for the medicine anymore, right?
So maybe she does.
No, she didn't show up for her job.
They're like, where'd she go?
I'm not now.
I'm not endorsing that you shoot the CEO of a health care company in the street.
But is that that different?
No.
Maybe that man was actually Rosalie.
Oh, I don't know.
Yeah.
Anyway, buy a nice dagger.
Go all out for the dagger.
You know what I'm saying?
Like maybe you just walk walked like 100 miles because you just spent all day walking.
But you got to make sure that dagger looks nice as you stab that person.
She's like, eat this or something also.
She's like, this is for killing my money.
I don't think she said eat this.
She says something that was like kind of goofy.
Oh, I didn't catch it.
No, because like I don't I guess I didn't think about no.
OK, we're done.
We're done here.
We're not going to keep you on the roofing at the very end.
Well, I was just going to talk more about like, oh, you know, I got it.
I guess when I was OK, let's hear it.
She says, this is for my mother.
Say your prayers.
Oh, man.
OK, yeah, she's going to this late.
So she does the actual deed.
What kind of sweet line is she going to have then?
Oh, she needs to have like an opera related one or something.
You think that would be good?
Like come up with a good pun if you're about to get your revenge.
You're swan song.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a good one.
Yes.
This is what I need from Rosalie.
Oh my God, I hope this happens.
Oh, yeah.
Well, we'll just have to find out when we watch next time.
All right, until then.
Until then.
Thanks for listening.
And yeah, have a nice day.
Bye.