The moment you've all been waiting for for an entire week since the last episode of show Joe is here upon you.
Your girl Sarah and your boy Joe are here to talk you through some more show Joe anime as usual showing Joe show Joe continuing the Rosa for sigh.
And boy are these episodes like I like these episodes are very good episodes Oscar much more likeable.
She's ready to fight these episodes she's like you know what.
Yeah okay and then it's great yeah well did you say the director changes after the first nine episodes or something.
Oh yeah I think I did say that.
That's why it's true.
They're like oh she's not likeable yet and at least I didn't like her until now.
Well this feels much more like when the character is switching over like we're getting closer to when like the main character switching over.
Oh yeah what like shifting from Maria to Oscar.
Yeah because like Murray is in these episodes but she's not like the perspective of these episodes so much.
I mean she really hasn't been I guess most of the time but it's like just annoyingly on screen anyways.
I just I hate her.
I know you hate her.
She comes across real bad and all of these.
Yeah it's the most like I think we end this series like a cheering for for them all getting executed.
It's going to be hard for me to be like I really got to pull this back.
Well I mean we know what happens to her so like it's just a matter of the show is going to make it seem justified or if we're supposed to be sad about that at the end.
But before we get into more of what she's done.
Let's catch up.
I hear word on the street is you watch season with the Sopranos.
I watch season when we did a second take.
That's why we're saying that.
Yeah I watched season one of the Sopranos.
It was good.
I don't have that much more to say about it.
Yeah it's very it feels like a tie like a like a period piece even though it's not these pay phones stuff like that.
It's all good.
They drive those cars.
You just be able to shoot people and there weren't security cameras.
So you just didn't really have to worry about it.
Now you got to like do some complicated stuff for you like blow up a drone from five miles away or whatever you know it used to be so easy back in the day to be a mobster and now it's all complicated.
Those were the days.
Those are the days.
Because this is like a big like you have to worry about end to end encryption.
Our time this is like a bad guy show.
I think at the time when did this when did it first come out like the Sopranos right before early 90s.
The Sopranos from 1999 to 2007.
Never mind that was more recent than I thought.
Okay.
Well okay I feel like that's like a show that's been talked about so much I don't know that it has like a major plot twist that gets spoiled on the Internet like some shows but you haven't nothing's been like.
Not really like I know what the ending is because it's like controversial or whatever but it's just that it has kind of like an ambiguous ending that's kind of what I know about it which is not really a spoiler.
I've watched the end or I've watched the like ending scene just because I was probably watching some documentary about how like it was like some people are like wait what and then other side was a good ending.
Our show HBO has since learned there can be a petition. I understand that people like this ending. I like you as endings for things anyways so I think it's probably I'm probably going to end up liking it.
Yeah but it didn't destroy itself like Game of Thrones did or how I'm like your mother did so that's good. Did you watch how I met your mother.
I've seen it like I watched like just read them episodes on TV and like at the time the like the finale aired or whatever I had some friends that were like big into it so I watched it with them and they all hated it so much and I was just like hmm and then that show is just never nobody ever
thinks about it anymore.
Well they made a show called how I met your father with Hillary Duff.
I don't think.
Yeah.
Notable.
Well I don't think that.
I've.
Let's just like.
Yeah.
You watching thing about talking about.
I've been on HBO.
We love HBO this week.
They have a documentary series called history of sitcoms that I have been enjoying and each one is like talking about like the evolution of a different aspect like sexuality or race or class differences and
gender and stuff.
As I am not a sitcom person really like maybe today now that they don't have the laugh tracks.
I just don't I'm like I don't want to be prompted like I'll I'll decide if something's funny or not.
I don't need like audience reactions.
But it's been interesting to watch.
And I forgot where I was.
Oh.
That how I met your mother was just kind of like didn't really bring anything new to the table.
Just another group of white folks in New York kind of thing.
And so.
But yeah.
Back to what you've been up to Joe other than the Supranas.
That's that's that's mostly it.
I'm assuming.
Trying to think of what else I did.
I'm close.
I'm getting close.
I'm probably like two hours away from finishing for God and Anne.
I decided to pick that back up.
Oh yeah.
And I played more of it and I'm close to the end.
Okay.
That game like offers you to make decisions that feel like they're really important but also feels like there's kind of only one decision that makes sense to do.
So that's weird.
So not really.
Or it's like if you pick the one that's clearly not the one they want, they would just like back to that original choice.
Yeah, it makes me really wonder what would happen.
I feel like make it again.
Yeah.
Yeah, maybe.
Who knows because it seems like you just wouldn't do that.
But it has gotten a little bit more abstract and weird with the gameplay at the end and I am enjoying that part.
Okay.
It is almost like a braid kind of thing where like you control a shadow version of yourself and like mess with things.
That was cool.
So hoping we get some more little weird set piece things before the game ends.
But I think storyline wise we're reaching the end.
Okay.
Nice.
Okay.
So now you're the one who knows I like barely play that game recommended to you now.
I've barely played it and you're almost done with it.
What else?
Oh, I beat the I beat the main Gears of War five campaign.
And this is a new playthrough or your first play.
Yeah.
I'm playing like the DLC now, which is like a separate thing.
You can really tell that like Gears five was where they like got to do all of the narrative and character work that they set up and for that they just didn't really get to do it seemed like because for just seemed like a bunch of things happen and also here are some characters.
But I'm not really going to tell you why you're doing these things or what the implication of that is.
And this game seems to be leading more into that that being said at the end of it you make a decision about like which you get like a choice between two characters that live or die.
And it seems like a really important choice that's going to have ramifications for whatever comes next, but you kind of make it in the game ends and then it's like, you can import that into this is not like a continuous story between titles.
There's just like a.
Yeah, because it also like that up to this where this is the first game with decisions.
Okay, it's the first one you like it kind of comes out of nowhere.
It's like in the last act and then all of a sudden it's just like who do you want to save and I'm like what.
But also, you know, I guess the next gears of war is like is like a prequel to like some of the first stuff but if they do a gears.
Six.
How are they going to make it so that either character could be alive in it that sounds great.
It sounds like so much work to do for this like gimmick of a choice that ultimately I feel like they're just going to force one of them.
And I feel like there's an obvious answer to pick what normally they do is just like, oh you're talking to someone.
You're you and then some new character and you're like catching them up on all that happened and they ask yeah but what happened about this and then you'd say this or that happened and then it just carries on that narrative.
No, I know what I'm saying is that like, they would have to make the entire game with a character present in one version and a different character present in another version and this is like an important character.
Well, and life is strange.
We had that choice of Chloe and I'm pretty sure she never shows up. No matter if she's alive or dead so maybe it'll just shock the character in the bin like they did which sucks because I like I like the character so it's too bad weird decisions but yeah.
They added like a like an open worldy kind of part of some of the sections that actually works pretty okay for me because I usually hate open world stuff but this work fine because it's just like little side missions in a home world which is okay.
Yeah, that's okay.
Like it's fine to explore to be given the option to do things if you want but not like it's not like annoying collectibles or that are like forcing you to explore every nook and cranny if you want to complete the game right.
No, yeah, no it's not like that.
Okay, that's good.
I mean, yeah, so that was pretty good.
I usually don't like open world stuff because I feel like it's just an enormous waste of your time, because it almost as always an enormous waste of your time, like not even that you have to do everything like even if you just follow the stuff you're supposed to do it's like, you have to go from point A to point B and it's going to take you 15 minutes to like get over there and that's
boring and dumb.
And I don't like doing it. Yeah, I started replaying or picked up my replay of Marvel Spider-Man because the second one's been put on steam now but it's really hard to if you're not good at video games and you like drop and pick up a game and they don't really remember the controls and then like, you know, bother to like look
at what the controls were again and you just annoyed because you suck at the game but also I can't be bothered to like re-learn it and all that.
Yeah, at least that one's like it's a pretty like it's not crazy big map and traversing is actually fun in that game.
There's that. But like the right open world games to the thing where there's like one one mission you had to do plot wise but introduces you to some side mission that you can continue just doing so you can't just completely ignore it because they like require you to acknowledge that that's the thing you can do in the game by doing like a
tutorial mission about it as part of the story.
Like an introduction to mini games or whatever.
Yes.
Yeah.
Anyway, what have you been up to?
Um, okay. Okay. Joe.
Last night, I played a new game. I really liking it. I played it for like five hours until like 2 30 in the morning but it's called the silent kingdom. It's just went into early access.
It's like an otomi game with RPG elements. So it's like, you know, RPG with like really nice art and sprites and like good music. They even have sugar or was it very no.
What's the Nutcracker sugar?
Sugar Plum fairies.
Yeah, playing that song at what part and I was like, yeah, this song good.
Um, but right as the romance, the dating some elements are in it, but also there's like combat and stuff in a story and plot and one person, it's like a solo dev has been making this which is crazy.
Um, and only like the first chapter of the game is out and I haven't finished it yet. And I'm assuming there's going to be at least three chapters, which means at least be like, probably 18 hour game.
Um, if not more, I'm like excited.
I streamed it. So I'm like, if I'm playing a dancing by myself, I'm just there playing it or maybe I like, sighed to myself like, oh, love.
It's pretty nice, but I don't know if it's like streaming where someone's watching me play a game like this. And I'm just like, a little weird.
Oh, I don't know. But I'm enjoying that a lot. I like it's a gorgeous game.
Hot food.
Um, this, you know, and stuff like I've already kissed somebody and we're only in the first chapter of the game. So we're making progress like crazy.
And so I'm like playing that the lost kingdom and anyone's interested is like 17 bucks.
Like in that a lot.
Yeah.
Is it hard to play like the game difficult.
No. And it's not like, well, it's just I appreciate right because Otomi games are always visual novels. So all you're doing is reading. So I sometimes maybe they have raising sim elements to it, but like it's nice to see someone trying something else.
But it kind of is giving like, almost like Octopath.
There's a conversation. Well, I haven't played Octopath or whatever that game is, but the art styles kind of similar except for super like pixelated sprites are like pretty well defined. They're really nice. I don't know if you used to look at that and see what it looks like. But I really like it.
It's going to be like that good because it's not like a dedicated whatever. But I am liking something new to my Otomi genre. So I'll let you. God, it's one developer though, right. So like, is this going to be an early access for the rest of time?
Who knows.
But I'm enjoying the silent kingdom.
It's on steam and switch right now, I think. Yeah. Yeah.
And I see. Okay, I'm looking at this now. Yeah, what do you think?
Cute, right? Are you talking about like the like dialogue sprites or like the overall. Oh, okay. There's like several different things going on here.
I think of what else I've been. Oh, I started. I watched the first episode of a new show Joe series. I'm like, I don't know if I should just watch them or just wait to watch them.
If we cover them, it seems kind of OK. Like I had seen the manga and the manga didn't interest me. But you know, there's no show Joe anime. So I'll take like get at this point.
Honey lemon, honey lemon soda or something like that. Yeah, honey lemon soda.
It's fine. It's like unremarkable so far. But I need fluff every once in a while, you know, mm hmm.
Like a blonde guy.
Yeah.
Okay, and then I try to watch it. Okay, you think at this point that they would have like more voice actors to like rotate. I'm just.
What? The sub? The sub. The the dub. Like I just cannot get into the dub. So I'm just watching it.
I just feel like not the right dude was chosen for the voice of this guy. Oh yeah. Okay.
I played like I think I can't remember the voice actor, but I feel like he's played some kind of like adult figure before. So I'm like, oh, yeah.
You're a teenager.
There's like there's like 30 English voice actors for anime stuff. And some of them have more range than others.
And also like they get super they get typecast super hard. So like anytime you hear somebody who's like not in the thing that they normally get typecast for you're like this is really distracting.
Yeah. At least it's not because for a long time there it's like there's like the chick with the super annoying like high pitched voice that just is like why do we have to have that character for every show where it's like your voice just grating.
I think of the most annoying I've been by voice actors and dub and I I guess I wasn't watching sub at the time because I didn't just switch the sub but I tried watching this series called chrono crusade.
And chick voice that was so annoying that I was like I can't do this.
And watch this show. I guess you go back and check. Oh, I finished reading claymore. I finished the claymore series. So and and I looked it up so Joe jump advanced means it's like more mature theme so yeah more like older teen is what that means if you see a manga that's
like a jump with advanced tagline on it. I liked it. Yeah, I don't know. Interesting. I like all the pretty ladies I kind of already talked about it but then the bad ass like final fight.
Love that.
So like, it's the plot. Like what is the thing that's like the drawers like the character design like what is like overall feeling on it in terms of like you should read this if you like this thing.
Well, I feel like I'm trying to I think I just like all the pretty ladies because I'm like, I like the yeah because it's just like I've complained about this in the past but just never feels like there's like interesting, you know, like combat strong chicks who aren't also
being like hyper sexualized or something and there is nudity in it but it's not like really as much in a sexual way. But and it's not like super explicit or anything but I just yeah it's because there's like barely any dudes in it.
And they're all weak so it's like freaking chick.
Just getting the work done.
There is some like oh these revelations seem like lost over like we're not exploring this thing revealed to kind of like attack on Titan vibes with some of the revelations in it.
But yeah, lots of time skits, which I think we're going to.
Well, because they're you don't like people. No, I really don't. It doesn't matter. Basically, it was like a seven year time skip because there's like this massive fight where a bunch of claymores died.
And so they, the ones that survived, let the organization that created them think that they died in the battle to but they were like secretly training the isolated place for seven years and then they like re enter the world and it's changed a bit and then one of the
characters has aged a lot since then. So now he's a viable love interest now that he's not a child.
Yeah, that helps.
Yeah.
You know.
But yeah, I just like it doesn't feel like it goes super deep into anything necessarily but there are so many characters so lots of different things kind of are like briefly touched upon.
And it's not like it's not a favorite whatever but it's cool.
I was going to say, oh, I picked up. I've been going to half price books. I've gotten the bleach stuff and the other day I went and bought volumes one through 24 commie summit kiss because they are on sale.
Again, can't watch it.
At least I can read it.
Yeah.
Yeah. So maybe one day that will be brought back.
Yeah.
But basically I like cleared out a whole shelf because I like took the whole series off the shelf and then there's huge void in the bookshelf. I have price books for I just bought 24 volumes.
Yeah.
That's about it.
Right.
Yeah, we've got exciting.
We're in the three episode territory. So these are going to be longer.
Here we go.
All right. So we're going to talk about the Rose of Versailles now we're going to start off with some voice actors. The voice actor of Jean is
Yoniko Matsukane. She plays Hans and Swan Lake. So we got a really Swan Lake person in this dump because everybody comes with the same five things like in the in the sub because it comes with like five things.
Right. Everyone's from Galaxy Express 999 one of the like fairy tale anime movies from the past or like some weird mech show that's where everybody's from.
She's also the voice of the vice principal in Miss Machiko, which is a show that people recognize maybe it's some older thing. I don't know. I don't know.
But then basically it seems like she has just gone into live action stuff. So she's in like a bunch of live action TV shows kind of starting in the 90s going all the way to like present day.
So TV pivot to TV. The voice actor of the voice actress for who's the narrator. We have heard several times across several episodes is Noriko Ohara.
She is the voice of Durango, which is like the bad guy lady in the Yada man series, which is like a long old series that has gone on for a period of time.
The 70s. Yeah. Several series. She's like the character like looks ridiculous.
She's also the voice of Claudia in all of the super dimensional fortress Macross stuff. So everything going on with that. She's always Claudia. It's great.
She is the voice of Ricky and Crusher Joe, who's like the little kid.
That's both the movie and the OVAs. And she is the voice of no be telling Doriman, a show that has over 2000 episodes.
Yeah, it's like kind of a Pokemon. Ask where it's just like child anime forever.
It's like a very long running show for like smaller kids like a dog cat thing.
Yeah, I don't know what Doriman actually is. He's like a little guy.
I just know strangely for some reason, formerly Harvest Moon now story of seasons had like a story of a story of seasons game for some reason.
Where it was like a farming sandwich Doriman, which is so weird. I did not get it.
I was like, what the hell?
Doriman is a robotic cat.
Okay, a little robot guy.
Nobody does the kid. So like that's why he's like older Pikachu or he's just like iconic creature thing from a long running Japanese children show.
Yep. Very, very long. There's been three series one from 1973 one from 1979 and one from 2005. It's very impressive.
Yeah, watch.
You get to see all your old show voice actors.
Yeah, this is how this is how you know she's a professional because you this is why the narrator is so good in this show.
Got a good name Noriko Ohara.
It's a good name.
So there we go. We're going to get some narration.
This time immediately the Rose of Ressai episode 10 is called the beautiful devil Jean.
We open on everyone in Paris celebrating the new king and queen. They think since the king or since King Louis the 16th has simple interests, he'll be more amenable to the common man.
We think King Louis be crowned king after ascending the 40 steps that you need to scale to be crowned by the archbishop or whatever they however they do it in France.
Marie looks on and thinks to herself that he seems very stately and then she's brought out to stand side by side with him as the new Queen of France as the OP plays.
The narrator tells us that after the coronation of the king and queen, they visit the school of Louis de Grande to receive a congratulatory speech delivered by one Maximilian Robespierre from the law department.
You should remember that name because that guy is going to be important later.
A car to school is named Louis something.
It's inescapable.
The way that they bring attention to this is very funny because it's like it's Robespierre writing a speech and the king is like who is that?
Man reading that speech.
That's Robespierre.
He's not even that pale.
The king is like Robespierre.
I'm sure that guy is going to cause me problems later on.
And we learn that he is the most revolutionary of the revolutionaries.
It's the most radical of the revolutionaries.
We'll probably be hearing more from him.
Back in the Paris slums, the people speculate that now that the new king is like do berries and around, he can't give all the money to her.
There's definitely no women to steal up all the money.
So it's fine.
That's where all your taxes go.
It's definitely not to other bullshit things.
Rosalie is passing by and she wonders if that's really true.
And then she's almost ran over by a carriage for the first time this episode.
I think we should have a Rosalie carriage counter.
Okay.
Number one.
Yeah, this is number one.
She glances up to see that her sister Jean is writing in it.
She chases after it and sees Jean get out and go into a manor.
Rosalie thinks to herself that Jean ran off a while ago and is shocked to discover that she's palling around with the nobility now.
She wonders how that could have possibly happened.
I like that she goes in and peeks to the window and she's like, is that ours?
It just looked like her.
But then she hears her sister like evil laugh and she's like, okay, that's definitely.
And then she's sure of it.
It's very funny.
Rosalie returns home to her sick mother.
Her mom asks if she's thinking about Jean and she says that she was and she's thinking about how Jean is the only one that really seemed like she was from a royal line where Rosalie thinks of herself more as a commoner.
Her mom says that's ridiculous because you actually Rosalie is the only one with royal blood, but then she stops herself before saying anymore.
We cut to the Boulevangers manner.
John comes in and the Marquis has her has to introduce her as her niece.
So she's like, hello ladies.
This is my niece.
She's so good at everything that ladies need to be good at like writing and playing piano and stuff.
And we learned that Jean has been spending all over time and intensive lady training.
So that's why she's good at everything.
Do you think this lady just took her on as like a pet project because she was bored or she really was?
It seems like it.
Maybe she just didn't have any kids of her own or something.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's really explained why she does this.
It doesn't really work out for.
No, it does not.
John asked the Marquis if they can visit Versailles sometime and Marquis says that their family has not been invited to court.
So they're not allowed to go.
But Jean thinks to herself that she will get into Versailles no matter what.
We cut to Rosalie being turned down for a job and then we get an entire montage of her being turned down for jobs.
She thought her life was going to be easier with a new king, but it seems like it's just more of the same.
She stops in an alleyway and then is immediately accosted by a wild dog.
So she runs out of the alleyway and almost gets run over by another carriage.
Carriage number two.
She thinks about Jean and maybe that she can help her out and goes to the Boulevard.
We also learned that Rosalie hasn't eaten in like two days.
Yeah, that's us.
We cut to Jean being surprised that apparently her sister has arrived.
She invites her in and her and Rosalie embrace.
Rosalie fills her in on what's been happening, like how their mom is dying and how they're poor.
But Jean tells her that there's nothing to worry about anymore.
Jean brings her in and has her weight inside like a dusty room in the middle of that's just like closed off because I guess they just have a room they don't use or take care of.
It's very weird.
Very suspicious.
Yeah.
Rosalie is there and thinks to herself that her sister, you know, hasn't changed after all.
She's look, she's like still going to help us out when suddenly.
A man Burson brandishing a writing crop or like a like a whip.
He tells her that he's Nicholas Delamotte and he is Jean's lover and won't let her blackmail his dearest.
Rosalie is like blackmail.
What are you talking about?
But Nicholas starts to attack her.
He tells her that Jean told him to send her away and Rosalie is horrified that her sister would do this to her.
Rosalie is whipped several times and then sent off.
She wanders the streets.
I would think she'd be like unable to walk or something.
You know, I feel like she should be more effective or she's just friggin.
All the pain tolerance.
Yeah.
I mean, the way the show portrays violence is interesting because it like evokes the like reaction you're supposed to have without showing you.
Yeah.
Much of the actual violence, which is probably the way to do it, especially for like the audience is going for.
Yeah, I guess.
I'm surprised that they don't hold back some of the stuff that happens.
Like a thing happens in next episode that's like kind of horrifying.
And I think like they handle it pretty well.
Yeah.
Man.
Oh, I wonder.
The term lover.
I hate it so much.
And I don't like why would you just love this woman's lover?
Like, I guess it's just like.
You have to let them know that you had sex.
Well, I haven't had sex.
No, he's like totally whipped.
Yeah.
He wants to imply that.
I just am like why I hate I hate that term so much.
It's very goofy.
Rosalie wanders the streets now completely distraught and horrified at what has happened to her.
We cut to John.
Nicholas comes in and tries to hit on her, but she rebuffs him.
Nicholas says that he'd do anything for her.
And John thinks to herself that the next step in her plan is to get rid of the marquees and maybe she can use this moron to do it.
We cut back to Rosalie still wandering the streets, but it's nighttime now.
She bumps into an extremely drunk nobleman and he sees that she's very pretty and offers to buy her for the night.
She is horrified and refuses and slaps him and he gets angry, but then his attendant comes up and gets him to stop.
We learned that this guy's name is Count Marabu and he's also going to be important later.
So please remember this guy.
They didn't tell us that on the show.
Did they?
You just recognize that name?
Yeah, he just like the narrator doesn't say anything, but you know, his attendant is like, oh, Marabu, you need to stop.
And I'm like, I recognize that name.
But I looked him up and yes, he is part of the revolution early on.
Okay, okay.
Probably see him.
Then probably get maybe executed early on.
Fingers crossed.
I didn't read his whole thing.
I don't remember him that well, which makes me think that it doesn't really go great for him.
Probably not.
I guess go get it attendant, diverting his drunk attention.
Oh, now he just dies of some illness.
He doesn't get it doesn't turn on him.
Anyway, the attendance drag Mirabu off leaving Rosalie on her own.
She thinks about prostitution being perhaps the only way for her to make anybody in cries.
Just then a carriage passes by and she chases after it.
She doesn't get hit by it this time, but she does chase after it.
Oscar and Andre are in it.
Oscar stops the carriage and Rosalie comes up to her and asks Oscar to buy her for the night.
Oscar hearing this breaks into laughter and tells Rosalie that like, she probably can't tell because I'm wearing this uniform, but actually I'm a woman so I can't buy you, which like, I don't know Oscar is that true.
Yeah, yeah, Oscar.
Yeah.
Rosalie starts to sob and Oscar gets out of the carriage and asks her what's wrong.
Rosalie tells her that she's poor and unemployed and also her mom is sick.
Oscar gives Rosalie a gold leave ray and tells her not to do something so foolish again and then leaves, which is kind of big talk, Oscar.
Yeah, I mean, I just, I feel like it's a very good like, like this is, you know, what people resort to prostitution for like in a very relatable way versus where everyone in court is like, the worst if you do that.
Yeah, this Oscar treated her somewhat nice despite having been like, Madame Dewberry.
Yeah, I mean, this is the this is the Oscar likes people kind of thing though, right. But again, like prostitution is just a profession that's just like a job, you know what I mean, like it is work.
I don't think you should look down on it necessarily, just like in a broader sense.
But being driven to this is not is not a good way to come into any kind of line of work.
So Rosalie looks at an extremely valuable coin and tries to chase after Oscar to figure out what her name is.
She does not catch up and I don't think she learns Oscar's name.
In the one way.
He's in the whatever.
Figure it out.
It shouldn't be that hard, you think, but who knows.
In the carriage, Oscar wonders what the world has come to if young women are having to stoop to prostitution.
Back at the Boulevanders manner, Rosalie offers to marry Nicholas if he helps her take over the.
Riches of this family, essentially, she tells him he should go contact his guy that can forge a will.
We cut to reports that there's a fire at the Boulevanders mansion.
Oscar tells us that the marquee is a friend of her mother's and she and Andre go right out to help in the manner.
Everything's on fire.
The marquee desperately searches for John and sees her at the foot of the stairs because she's on like the second floor banister.
She's like looking down at her.
But then she turns to see Nicholas and come out of a room with a torch and he approaches her.
He grabs her by the neck and throws her over the banister into the blazing fire as John watches.
It's incredible.
It was like good grief.
I guess it's pretty visceral.
Yeah.
The fire will cover up the fact that she was strangled to death.
It's very reminiscent of when Madame Dewberry had that signature forge in the that place got burned down.
Yeah.
Very similar scenarios.
She's just a baby.
The Dewberry.
The fires are common, you know, untraceable.
How can you tell if it's an accident or not?
Just a candle falls over and it all goes up.
You'd never know.
It's the next day and John is in mourning because the marquee is dead.
Oscar Andre arrived to pay respects.
Oscar sees John is like who's that lady and Andre tells her that she's apparently the marquee's distant relative.
And also people are saying that she's like part of the Volus family or something.
I don't know.
Oscar recognizes the Cardinal who's also there as the disgraced ambassador to Austria who was sent away by Maria Theresa for being a womanizer.
She's like, what is this guy doing here?
He doesn't want her, but France will take it.
Yeah.
Nicholas is like, hey, John, why is this Cardinal here?
And she tells him that he's the highest ranking clergyman in France right now.
And he's also easily to manipulate because he's he's like weak to women.
So like, obviously we should keep him around.
I can just get him to do stuff.
Oscar says that if John was really a descendant of the Volus family, she'd have residency in Versailles and rank, which is just totally wrong.
I don't know why she says this.
We get one last scene where they read the marquee's forge will that besets her mansion and estate and everything else to John.
And Oscar thinks to herself that there is something terrifying to come as we cut the credits.
Yeah, so already Oscar just feels like a bit less darn like so intense up to this point.
I just like Oscar more now.
Like Oscar with Rosalie is really nice.
I mean, it's a very sweet moment of like somebody in like upper echelon cares about regular people.
She perhaps is the only person in the upper echelon that cares about normal people.
Well, do we know if because she's the father of a general, which maybe he only was awarded a role based off his service.
So it's not like I don't know, like do people respect her the same way or or maybe because she's not as high up. She's not 20 20.
Yeah, I mean, it seems like they're like a military family, right.
So it's kind of not from like the proper nobility necessarily, like it's kind of like an offshoot like I'm sure general Jarje has like interacted with commoners in the military before.
And he's like he's spending all his time in like upper society because you know officers and stuff like sometimes look at promoted from like regular ranks and things like that.
So probably a little bit more exposure to the diverse people.
You know, he seemed like a dick when he made her a son or whatever, but maybe he's not all bad.
Yeah, well, he's a little bit mellowed out a lot old age.
So yeah.
Yeah, that's interesting.
Yeah, I like this episode I like how, you know, we get rid of do vary one episode and then the next episode we introduce somebody who's doing basically the same thing, because this is about how the system produces this type of person instead of it just being like anomalies that
keep happening.
Yeah, what do we like?
What do we think? I don't know if she's how many of these are going to she just like the second one and then she gets toast and then someone else comes or we start.
This is happening all the time is what's going on like in local principalities and other places, you know, it's like people just trying to scheme their way up and do all that other stuff because again, like her options were do this.
Or basically die, right? Because I mean like Rosalie gets lucky that she runs into Oscar, but if she didn't run into Oscar, she may have not made it to the end of the week.
I know it doesn't matter for mom.
Yeah, she's just wasting away in their little cubby.
Like it's extremely dire.
So like on one hand, I'm like, oh yeah, Jean's ridiculous and like absurdly kind of like doing evil stuff. But at the other hand, it's like, it doesn't seem like she's necessarily wrong to be doing this.
Like it doesn't seem like she really had any other options. The thing that do Barry said last episode about like, you've never had to scrap. I had to do things without thinking about the consequences or like the morality of it just seems to basically be true.
He she milled out an age to because it's well.
Yeah, it's almost exactly the same because instead of killing her husband, she just kills her.
And that factor basically in this one. Same playbook.
Yep. Love to see it.
I don't know. She's not as fun as do.
Yeah.
Yeah. I don't like her beating her sister up. That was not good.
Oh, that was very bad.
I know she's full of shit when she big gas tears.
Yeah, that's not fun. I get better when they're beating up on the ability.
She's like my sister. She's already losing her heart. And I'm like, dude, I don't think she had one to begin with.
Like, yeah, I mean to the neighborhood children.
Leslie does not read people particularly well.
Oh, well, yeah, she doesn't have the brain power because she has no food.
Yeah, that's fair. She's she's not had any food.
Yikes.
Dyer.
Yeah. I mean, I'm just trying to get into the other thoughts about this episode.
I mean, we just get introduced into the new villain. So yeah.
But we're not going to see her for these next two episodes.
These next two episodes are about other stuff.
So let's get into it. The Rosa Forsyth episode 11 is called First and Leaves for the North.
Just really straightforward in terms of what happens.
Everybody's still writing high on the new king and queen.
And the king is going to receive nobility at court. Some Baron requested he be made secretary of the court and wants Marie's recommendation.
She's like, yeah, man, whatever.
Sure. And Count Mercy is like, oh, maybe we should vent this guy. I don't know.
But Marie laughs at him and says that she's not a child now. She doesn't have to take orders from anyone.
That's very adult like just to be like, sure, all the responsibilities now that I don't have to be accountable by anyone.
Yeah, she just misses everybody and leaves. She thinks to herself that she's finally queen.
She can do whatever she wants. It doesn't have to answer to anybody. She's finally free as the OP place.
Oh, man.
Oh my God. It's so ridiculous.
I just imagine how stressful it would be having to be like her.
I just lost you. The person delivering her terrible actions to everyone.
Like we'll see in a bit. Poor servants having to cover for her.
Yeah. No, this is like a nightmare for everybody, except for her because she's not thinking about other people.
She's finally free. That's what that means.
We return on Oscar and Andre sparring.
Oscar does like an insane backflip up a tree and then disarms Andre and launches his saber in the air and then knocks it back into his hand with her sword.
It's like ridiculous. And then she's like, you've gotten way better Andre. And he's like, I don't know. You're still like way better than me.
It's like a completely insane sequence of events.
The lighting for this scene was kind of orange, which is like the same colors as what their flashbacks were. So I wasn't sure at first that this is now or like I don't know.
Thinking of paths for a second.
Yeah, I think it was just the evening.
Yeah.
I had like an orangey overtone to it, but it looked good. I liked it.
General Jargez out the window tells Oscar that Queen Marie has promoted her to the regiment commander of the Royal Guards, which makes her a colonel now instead of a captain. And Oscar is shocked at that sudden promotion.
We cut to Marie and Oscar talking up for sigh. Marie tells her that along with the promotion, she's going to double Oscar salary and Oscar says that she appreciates the thought but considering Francis financial situation, she'd prefer her salary stayed the same.
Marie is surprised, but Oscar insists. So she agrees. But then she offers to give her something else. She's like, you want anything else? I'll give you anything you want. Oscar and Oscar tells her that the only thing she wishes to see is Marie become a splendid queen.
Marie just kind of looks at her.
We need you to elaborate on what that means because she's not going to understand.
Oh, I feel so bad for Oscar.
Being like, do you know that like France is kind of really poor right now and we have bigger problems? You shouldn't be doubling my salary.
I don't know. I'm like, at this point, it's just like, just take what she's giving you and then do something meaningful with it just so she can like.
Yeah. I mean, this is the heartbreaking thing, right? Is that like, Oscar is going to refuse this, but ultimately it isn't going to matter because they're just like, you can't write the ship from the position that she's in.
So yeah, maybe she'd be better taking the money and opening up like a soup kitchen or something.
Seriously, uh.
Yeah, it's it's kind of a bomber.
Do we think Duke Orleon would take over things to be any better for the common folks? Maybe that's just like, what should have happened?
No, I mean, he seems like a smarter guy.
Right. I don't know what his what he wants exactly.
I guess he does be like frustrated because it's like such buffoons
or lanes country go down in flames.
Like I'll I'll correct it by any means necessary.
Yeah. I mean, it doesn't seem like I mean, he's like cruel and like murderous
people or whatever, right?
And it seems like he just kind of wants a position for himself.
But he does seem like a smarter guy.
So like I bet he would administer better than Louis the 16th is going to do.
That being said, he still sucks.
So I don't know.
I haven't seen Louis.
Can't get he's not almost be like, hey, it's your wife and check or something.
That certainly is not happening.
Maybe he could at least because like I doubt he's doing his duties either.
No, no, we're about to have a really interesting conversation later on.
Later at the Jarje's estate, Oscar puts on her new red uniform,
which I don't like as much.
Yeah, it doesn't.
It's the white with like the blue trim like pop more with her eyes or something.
She doesn't look as good.
No, maybe that's on purpose.
Maybe she's supposed to look a little out of place.
Granny and Andre are impressed and joke around.
And it's fun.
A man enters and tells Oscar that many gifts have arrived for her from the palace
to congratulate her on a promotion.
But Oscar tells him to thank them for the gifts, but send them away.
And refuses to accept any of them.
Granny is like, why are you turning down free stuff?
And Oscar thinks to herself that Marie is too pure with her emotions.
But all her money comes from people's taxes.
So she probably shouldn't be spending it like this or else everyone's going to.
And I don't think she's going to be like, oh, I should just return them now
and get that money back.
I feel like they're just staying in a room somewhere now.
Yeah, she's like, it just happens.
She keeps doing this.
Everyone's going to get mad.
And Andre is like, no way.
Everybody loves Marie right now.
It'll be fine.
But Oscar does not agree.
I'd be interested to see what she she got that she thought Oscar would like.
Yeah, I don't know.
At Versailles, Marie is bummed that Oscar won't accept any of her gifts.
And you know who else isn't like, you know, an else sucks.
A person hasn't visited her once since she became Queen.
She asks Countess Knowles if there has been any word from person, but there hasn't.
Queen Marie is called to give an audience to the people, but she's like,
I don't want to do that.
So she cancels it because she's like, I'm sick.
I can't go.
And the grand Chamberlain is like, you can't just not go.
It's like your job to see all these nobles so they can kiss up to you.
Mercy agrees and tells her that these people came a long way to speak with her.
She can't just like turn them away for no reason.
Or Marie is like, I hate her.
So bad.
She's such a brat.
Then another woman enters and says that there's a request to see Queen Marie from
person and Marie is like, oh, first and that's great.
And she goes off to see him.
We cut to many angry nobles who have been waiting for like four hours to see the Queen,
but she's still not here.
Among them is Duke Guamine.
He's brought an adversary from Denmark and he's like, Hey, if the Queen doesn't want
to see this man, it could cause an international incident, but like her choice, I guess.
So whatever.
Remember this nobles and she does not give a shit about you.
He says and then leaves.
He turns to leave and sees Oscar and he's like Oscar my nemesis.
He tells her to move aside, but she doesn't want to see him.
He tells her to move aside, but she doesn't.
So he like shoves her out of the way.
I know.
Hands on the test.
Just can't open.
I don't think he was trying to grope her.
I think he was just shoving her out of the way.
Yeah.
Well, I don't think he's going to be so handsy after next episode.
So yeah, he leaves and Oscar wonders if Marie is neglecting her duty after all, which the
answer is like, yes, Oscar clearly.
That's what she's doing.
We got to Marie first and hanging out first and seems to know that he's taking up too
much of her time and she's neglecting her duties.
And he also tries to leave beautiful, but she's just so pretty, dude.
He's like captivated.
He's like, oh my God, she's so hot.
I can't leave.
Marie keeps canceling appointments in, but first it is too enamored to refuse to hang
out.
So funny.
He's trying to be strong as possible.
Like like a look at the beauty of Marie Antoinette is too is too much.
I'm overwhelmed.
Her charm is off the scale.
I fail all of my charisma rolls.
It's crazy.
God, no.
No, not likeable.
She's fine looking, I guess, but that personality.
So I was like, damn that redhead, you know, she's okay.
I can see why I'm gonna do bears.
I'm pissed.
She's.
She sucks.
She's so bad, dude.
It's so funny.
We cut to Oscar walking around.
She over here is Countess Knowles and Count Mercy talking about how Marie is neglecting
her duties.
They like point out that she's hanging out with first in the garden.
She's like, what the heck, man?
She can't just be hanging out with first in all day.
Like it didn't matter when she was a princess because the princess isn't a real job.
Who cares what they do?
But now that she's the queen, she has to spend her time doing like important stuff, not hanging
out with some guy, it's a scandal.
Oscar just watches stoically.
Well, we don't even talk about like, oh, why wasn't he seeing her?
Probably because he's like, oh, I shouldn't be carrying on a fair with the whole queen
of a country.
And then he comes.
Maybe he had the intention to be like, no, but he's dumb.
You can't do it.
She's so high.
Listen, you have to imagine a hot lady.
I just imagine a bear was hotter.
In my opinion.
I'm much more, I'm much more King Louis, the 15th kind of guy, if you know what I'm saying,
he had the right court wife or whatever.
At least she had a brain.
At least she had to think to scheme and hustle.
He's got nothing going on like her mom's guys in like episode one.
Oh, dude, we get a funny thing from her mom later.
We kept to Oscar going to first in place.
She goes to talk with him and he's like, oh, I bet I could, I bet I could guess why you're
here.
She tells him that he should leave France and he's kind of shocked by how direct that
is, but he's not that surprised.
He asked that there's rumors about him and Marie, but Oscar says that there aren't yet,
but they're going to come soon.
So you should just leave.
First in reluctantly agrees, but it's like, but this is really hard for me, Oscar, because
like she's just so hot.
Oh my God.
Stop it.
You think Oscar's gonna be like, yeah, man, I know.
Oh yeah.
It's so hard for you, person.
I mean, the whole country could collapse, but you're right.
Not being able to hang out with a hot lady is disappointing.
I know there's others.
Others.
It's so funny.
My God.
Oscar goes to leave, but first in stops her and asks her if she ever feels lonely.
He's like, if you spend all your time as a man, you can't ever know the joys of being
a woman.
Oscar.
He was trying to put loose on Oscar.
I was like, maybe not.
Maybe you just curious.
No, he's like, aren't you like just horny as can be.
And it alters me.
That's what he was asking.
Making skills like me.
I think it's like this.
This comes across as like, oh, well, I guess since I'm leaving, I never got to ask you,
hey, what's up with you being a man?
This is how I read it.
Oscar smiles and says that she was raised to be a man and she's happy with the way things
are now.
First, it accepts that answer tells her that they should meet again one day as Oscar leaves.
Oscar and Andre's carriage gets held up in traffic.
Apparently some kids stole some money from Duke Grimina's carriage and he's making a
whole production of it.
We stop and see that Duke angrily stand before a small child, like a really small kid.
Like he's like, seven or something.
Maybe.
Incredibly young.
Yeah.
All of a sudden, Rosalie runs out to the child's aid and begs of the Duke for mercy.
She's like, he's just a small child who hasn't eaten in days and doesn't know any better.
He doesn't know right from wrong.
Let him go.
Oscar recognizes her as Rosalie from last episode.
She's like, hey, it's that one chick.
Wait and buy.
The Duke says, fine, just like get out of here and everyone's relieved that the situation
is going to resolve peacefully.
Rosalie thanks the Duke and tells the boy whose name Pierre to run along now.
Pierre turns to run home and just as he does, Duke Grimina draws a pistol and shoots the
boy in the back, killing him instantly.
This is insane.
It's wild.
It's such a wild scene.
Like, oh my God.
Like what they have?
Did they really get away with stuff like that?
The scenes.
Yeah.
I'm going to guess.
No one's going to call him on.
I'm.
Oh, well, someone thinks this is unacceptable.
All right.
God damn it, Andre.
His mother screams in Russia's name as everyone is stunned.
The Duke laughs and gets back in his carriage.
Oscar is so incensed that she runs out and has to be physically held back by Andre, who
reminds her that Duke Grimina is a member of the Duke family whose power is rivaled only
by the king himself.
This is like the most powerful guy in France.
Oscar, you can't fight this guy right now.
But she isn't hearing it though.
And Oscar has to force her back into the carriage as they pull away back home.
She's incensed at the Duke and cries later that night.
We see first and pull away from Paris.
The narrator tells us that it will be four long years before he sets foot in France again.
So we'll be done with him for a little bit.
We get one last scene where Marie is informed of first his departure and thinks about he
left without even saying goodbye.
She's all alone again as we cut to credits.
Okay.
Yeah.
Again, Oscar so much better now and.
The juxtaposition of like the A plot being that first and has to leave because Marie isn't
doing her job and like it's kind of sad that he has to go and everyone's going to be alone.
And then the B plot is like Duke Grimina murder is a child in front of everybody and Oscar
wants to kill him.
So wild.
Yeah.
I'm like whatever.
And that's like.
So, like what she, I, we don't see her being told anything about this.
I don't know if she has any thoughts or,
whatever.
That's too bad.
I don't know.
She would be scandalized.
I think she would care.
I guess.
children in the show. There's hardly any. We can't afford to lose them.
Yeah. Damn, he killed that kid.
Again, the way the violence is depicted is like
it just shows like the kids running
and then you hear the gunshot and then it's like a big like blood splatter.
Like a really like a ridiculous blood splatter like all over the screen comes out.
Like it's very good at like evoking the feeling without being gratuitous, which is nice.
Oh, you know what I mean?
Like, I can very easily the like shitty, gritty HBO remake of the Rosa Versailles.
Or it's like you have to watch this kid's guts fall out or something stupid.
And I'm glad that there was a time when I didn't have to watch bullshit like that.
Yeah. It makes me so mad.
Yeah. Much more sophisticated show that I thought it was going to be in terms
of like how it's portraying things like it seems like the nobility just fucking suck.
I'm like, I'm surprised.
I'm surprised these people in Paris did not like I try to kill him right there.
Well, it's like nice because I was like,
oh, maybe it's going to romanticize all this more than it has.
Like it's being a fair
really the situation and depicting it.
It seems like they totally deserve the revolution based on what's going on.
I mean, Marie sucks in this episode.
She's just sufferable.
Oh, it's been sufferable the whole time.
What are you talking about?
I know, but this is like now she actually has a job and it's like not right.
It's not the occasion at all.
She's like, you know, you're going to bring us down.
I'm going to send you France, our enemy.
This is like an undercover Trojan horse situation where we hate France.
And this is Marie Antoinette is the way to topple the whole country
because he's so annoying.
Well, if that's the case, this is an enormous plunder
based on how things work out.
This is this is a sending Lenin to the Soviet Union,
kind of to Russia, kind of mistake, grand level mistake, if that's the plan,
because they are all going to get rolled by Napoleon eventually.
Yeah. Another thing to think about this leads to Napoleon.
We won't get that far in the show, though.
But yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. All right.
Episode episode 12.
Are we any other thoughts about episode 11?
And yeah, just very much like, oh, my gosh, crazy stuff.
These are good. Oscar is great.
This episode. Yes. Yeah. That's nice.
Really liking Oscar more in these episodes.
OK, the Rosa Versailles episode 12 is called The Morning of the Dual Oscar is
we open on a hunting crew containing Duke Orleon and Duke
Ominor right past Oscar and Andre splashing them along the way.
Oscar remembers last episode where Duke Ominous shot a kid in the back
and sees red.
She tries to pull her sword right there, but Andre stops her and is like,
come on, you can't fight this guy right now.
Also, he's holding a gun.
She says that what the Duke did was absolutely unforgivable as the OP plays.
We cut back to several ladies carrying a ton of boxes to the palace.
Oscar is like, what's what's all this?
And Andre tells her that Marie has been on a buying spree
and even the finance minister is complaining about it.
We see Marie being presented with an assortment of dresses.
She seems mildly impressed, but she just has so many dresses, you know,
it's like, how can you really impress me with all this stuff?
The lead designer who there is there tells her that the queen must be
at the forefront of fashion to set an example for all of the women of France.
It seemed like she was fishing for a compliment,
like or she's fishing for engagement from these people by downplaying all the
like she seems so bored.
Yes.
Yes. Oscar and Andre enter Marie's parlor.
Marie is like, oh, Oscar, you're finally here.
I've been wanting to see you so much, but like you're always somewhere else.
I thought you were mad at me or something.
And Oscar is like, no, maybe she was though.
I've been I've been I've been thinking about killing her guy.
Then he asks Andre what she's.
Multiple things.
One primary thing, but this is the hell thing is it?
No, this is a disaster.
Marie then asks Andre when he thinks about the color of the brown dress
she's holding, which was very interesting, but she asked Andre this.
Andre is like, oh, I don't know.
It kind of reminds me of the color of a flee and everyone's like, wow,
that's such a vulgar thing to say.
But then the designer decides to run with it.
She's like, oh, yes, everything will be flea color.
That'll be the trend for this year.
And they all like speculate on things they can make that are like flee colored
while Oscar and Andre just kind of look at each other like what the hell is going on.
I could see it being like talking or dragging Andre in the conversations
is like a way to get Oscar involved when she wouldn't voluntarily be
like conversing or engaged with the conversation.
But because she got Andre and like his standing, she has to like be more
in it if Marie just drags him into the conversation.
That's a good point.
I just read this as like Marie's board and she's like, fuck it.
Let's ask Andre what he thinks.
Well, she's probably like, well, if there's tension between them,
even though Oscar says there isn't and Marie doesn't care about being like,
let's just like be even more annoying and like use Andre.
Yeah. To drag you into this conversation.
Now, that totally fits, especially how Andre is annoyed after.
We got to Andre, throw it a rock into a fountain.
He's like, what the hell was that?
Why is the queen worried about fashion and not, you know, the state of affairs?
He says that she's wasting taxpayer money.
And this is this total thing is like completely absurd.
But Oscar tells him it's fine.
And he's like, what do you mean it's fine?
Last episode, you were the one saying this stuff.
Now I'm the one saying it.
Why is it fine?
But Oscar tells him that Marie is just doing this all because she's lonely
without person.
And this is the only way she knows how to cope.
Boo. I'm like, are you serious? Oscar, come on.
Yeah, no, don't give her that grace.
And also just hang out with her as like a.
Just hang out with her.
It's on you.
What else do you have to do, Oscar?
You're your job is to do nothing. Yeah.
In Vienna, Empress Maria Teresa is presented with a portrait of Queen Marie.
Maria Maria is like her Empress.
Teresa is like, what the hell is this?
Why is she dressed like an actress?
She's supposed to be the queen of France.
She looks terrible.
She sends the painting back and is like dismayed at what her daughter has become.
She prays that Marie will understand that money doesn't grow on trees,
but doesn't seem all that confident.
These things, I feel like it's not that like.
God, why?
This is a terrible choice.
And she like sending her crazy.
It's such a bad move.
Yeah. God, this is so funny.
She's just like, my daughter's going to blow it.
It's over. France is doomed.
Marie see that even her mom is rejecting her gift and like,
maybe she could ponder what that could mean.
Yeah. Well, she's going to be doing some pondering right now.
Back in Versailles, Marie and Maya herself in the mirror.
She thinks about all of the nicknames that she's been given.
The fairy of Versailles, the Queen of Rococo, which is like some fashion trend.
And the Rose of France, not the Rose of Versailles, though.
But in her heart, something is still missing. What could it be?
What could it be, mother? What am I missing in my life?
Morals.
Self awareness.
And understanding of how the world works in a general sense.
Yeah, you're having a fair.
She probably doesn't even think she is.
She was as far as that time goes.
Do you think do you think King Louis is still scared of her?
Because she's pretty and he doesn't know what to say? Probably.
Well, we saw what beauty did to person and he's much more equipped to handle it.
So that's true.
She's just too powerful.
Her husband just is incapacitated.
Maybe she should dress like a flea.
It'll like dampen the effect, you know.
Yeah, it's not. I don't really love.
The color brown for an entire dress.
I feel like this is better. It's terrible.
Like secondary kind of trim thing or something like a flea themed is bad.
It's a bad theme.
Mm hmm.
We cut to a dinner amongst the richest families.
The King, Queen, Duke Orleon and Duke of Miné are all there.
Plus some other people, but who cares?
There, Duke of Miné says that peasants all need to be worked to the bone
to provide for them and then laughs because he is a cartoon villain.
Queen Marie floats the idea that cancel of canceling the morning audiences
with like the nobles in the general public.
And everybody else at the table is like, that's a great idea
because now we'll all get to sleep in.
And also there's no reason to see the masses anyway.
Who cares what those peasants have to say?
Whatever.
More of a like, oh, she does that.
People be more mad at her and we don't want them in power.
So have at it.
Ruin your reputation more is kind of what I was thinking.
Maybe some of them were.
Yeah, well, she asked everybody and like King Louie is like, yeah,
that sounds great because he doesn't think and do poorly on his like,
that's an excellent idea because he's like, I hope they kill you.
And then Duke of Miné is like, who cares what the masses say anyway?
Which is the thing I think he just actually thinks this sucks.
Right.
Dear Oscar pipes up and offers her opinion.
She says that meeting with the general public is the king and queen's duty
and it's important to learn about the world from the commoners perspective,
like straight from their mouths and not filtered through other people.
Maria is like, oh, is that why we do that?
All right, cool.
Now we'll keep that meeting, then it's fine.
Yeah.
Oh, she's such an idiot.
That's why like Oscar, you don't realize the power you have just by being her
friend, you could be like making things happen through her.
This is the problem.
You have to be very clearly explaining everything, but.
See, I want you to imagine like an alternate universe where like Oscar had
teamed up with Dewberry.
I don't think Dewberry would be falling for this.
You know what I mean?
Like because she used to be a commoner.
Oh, like there's a problem is like had been a position.
Was with was with Duke early on instead of the Louis Marie answer that pair.
Because I don't think she I think she would have known because these are like her guys.
Right.
Like she's from the commoners.
Like, yes.
Well, do you just forget that you get out of touch or you're just glad it's not you
anymore.
I don't know that.
I think she would like speak up for them at the risk of her position there.
Well, yeah, I don't think she's going to like actually advocate for them.
I'm just saying I think she would recognize that things are about to go to shit.
You know what I mean?
I think she'd have her like she don't understand.
So things like bad a little bit sooner.
If you guys keep doing this, we're going to lose it all.
Yeah, I think of you more like that kind of thing.
Yeah.
But yeah, I mean the problem is that like Marie is naive and Oscar can't scheme.
Because like Oscar could be like running the show more or less, right?
Yeah.
By influencing Marie because Marie seems to be running the show because King Louis
and nothing person.
But Oscar is not going to is not willing to do that because she's not a schemer, even
though maybe you should be a schemer.
Yeah, I for good.
Or good.
Like in a good way.
Anyway, later Duke Guimine is showing off his pistol to some ladies.
He brags about how he's a great shot and then he sees Oscar passing by in trash talk, sir.
He says it's ridiculous that a mere woman can be made a colonel.
Oscar gets pissed and tells him that it's a big talk from a guy who shoot a child in
the back.
No one should pass judgment like that.
Only God is that what you think.
Duke Guimine, you think you're a God or something?
You're nothing without your title and he slaps her with a white glove indicating a challenge
to a duel.
Oscar agrees and says the weapon of choice will be pistols, which makes Duke Guimine
a sweat and he says that he's going to put a bullet through her pretty face.
Yeah, as soon as I saw those gloves, I was like, oh, it's a nap.
I know it's heavy.
It's it's going.
He was prepared, but I do like how she's like, I'm picking pistols, the thing you're
apparently good at.
And he's like, shit demolish you with the thing you're bragging about.
So good.
That's so good.
We got to ask her practicing her pistol skills.
Unsurprisingly, they're incredible off to the side.
Andre, Geerdel and General Jardez.
Watch on.
General is not concerned at all about this duel because he knows Oscar is incredible and
is going to win.
He's just like, whatever.
Geerdel's like, why'd she pick pistols?
She could have picked anything.
Why'd she pick the thing he was good at?
Because apparently Duke Guimine came in like second at like some sharp shooting tournament
recently or something.
But the general is still unbothered.
He's like, I have full confidence in my son.
Andre says that Duke Guimine is a coward, though, and is probably going to like do some trick
or some underhanded thing.
We cut to Duke Guimine and Duke Orleon hanging out.
Duke Guimine brags about how they'll finally be rid of Oscar because like I'm a way better
shot, right?
Duke Orleon and Orleon is like, yeah, I mean, maybe.
And Guimine starts getting nervous.
Orleon offers him some advice.
He says that there's a spot where the light gets reflected off of a window in the early
hours.
So if the dueling ground was there, it sure would be a shame if Oscar were to stand right
into that beam of light that would blind her, wouldn't it?
And Duke Guimine agrees.
So that's their plan.
Well, he's like, I'll tell you this for like a price or something.
We don't know what that is.
Like what does he want in return from this guy?
Yeah, it's a weird thing to offer because you already know that this guy is in your
camp, but I guess they're still like transactional.
Let anyone feel too comfortable or like familiar.
We're all businessmen here, you know.
Later that night, Oscar is stargazing.
Andre comes out to see her and asks if she's nervous and she says, not really, but then
admits that she is actually kind of nervous.
Not about dying, but she's afraid because she's not afraid of death, but she's afraid
of killing a guy because I guess she's never done that.
Even though we saw her do that a lot.
Well, she killed all those guys in that cave.
But also maybe not.
Maybe she just incapacitated them.
Well, this is her whole stick of like, you know, honor and stuff is like life has value
regardless of whose life it is and blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, but that's not how the world works.
But also she's like, Duke of Minet must be stopped, but killing somebody isn't how Oscar
wants to go about doing it.
Andre insists that he'll be there.
He's like, don't worry, Oscar, I'll be there in case anything happens.
But she's like, Gerardelle's going to be my second.
It's fine.
You don't have to go, but he insists on going because come on, man.
You're not going to let Andre go.
Come on.
No, I'm an YouTube server.
I guess it has to be someone of the position.
You probably need somebody you probably can't just have like your stable hand to do it.
She tells Andre that if she doesn't make it the treasure box they buried as children will
be his and then she lists off all of the contents that she's remembered after all this time.
Lucky him.
Stuff for real value.
He's like, wow, I can't remember you remember that.
It's the morning of the duel.
Oscar, Gerardelle, Duke or Leon, Duke, Amine and a doctor are all present.
Also Andre shows up at some point.
I just didn't see him there.
Oscar and Guamine get their pistols and prepare themselves.
Elsewhere, Maria is woken up and told about the duel and she rushes off to go stop them.
Her hair looks better just down like that.
Yeah.
Crazy ass hairstyles.
Oscar and Guamine.
Sorry.
Oh, no, you're good.
Yeah.
No, it does look pretty good just straight down.
I guess that's not the style.
No.
Oscar and Guamine stand back to back and the step count starts while Marie rushes off to
the dueling site.
We get a pretty good like little montage thing of like Marie rushing Oscar taking steps
and then getting flashbacks of her life.
And you know, as the count is going up, this is a pretty good sequence.
When it gets close to the end, Oscar notices the light beam she's about to step into and
realizes that it's a trick.
She remembers what the Duke said about shooting her in the face.
So as she takes the final step, she turns, but instead of firing, she raises the gun
to block her face and Duke Guamine fires right into her forehead.
But the bullet ricochets off the gun.
I guess the bullets were just much more lightweight back then.
So it wouldn't have just.
Yeah.
Lower caliber like it would now.
Okay.
Yeah.
So it just like deflects off.
So like lower caliber bullets, like it's it's not uncommon for people to get shot and
then just to kind of be okay for a little bit because it's not like piercing all the
way through you or something.
Oscar calmly decides to shoot Duke Guamine in his right hand so he can never fire a
gun again and just does that.
Yeah.
She's so casual about it too.
She's just so good at everything.
It's great.
Yeah.
Maria arrives on the scene as Duke Guamine curses off to Oscar.
Maria scolds Oscar for dueling and sentences her to disciplinary confinement for a month.
Then she scolds Duke Guamine for doing something so vulgar as dueling and then she gets into
her carriage and leaves.
Andre comments that her punishment for Oscar is too harsh, but Marie thinks to herself
that it was the only way she could protect Oscar from the nobility as we cut to credits.
I mean, technically, Oscar was invited.
She did not start this just meeting.
Yeah.
But like, you know, they're gonna be petty about it.
Yeah.
Well, okay.
What do we think?
She's actually, well, I feel like this is like, oh, Marie's actually gonna think about
things now.
The thing is, is that like, like Marie Antoinette is like a savvy operator when it comes to
her friends and that's the only time she ever is.
Yeah.
Maybe that's the like, if Oscar's not going to control or manipulate her for good, she'll
just have to like force her hand by like putting herself in harm's way, maybe.
Yeah.
I mean, that seems to be what her emo is.
So do we think Oscar should have just killed Duke Guamine here?
I feel like there would have been a lot of repercussions.
Yeah.
But I feel like there's going to be repercussions anyway, right?
Yeah.
I mean, hopefully he just like tail between his legs and kind of buzz off for a bit at
least.
I can't decide.
I feel like, I don't know.
He definitely, well, Oscar never would have done it, I guess, but.
She wouldn't have done it.
Like it's a character.
Because we get him and we just shock him in a sea of those peasants that he shot a kid
in front of and then let them take care of the rest.
Oh yeah.
I mean, that's, that's fair.
He just did have him or something.
Yeah.
But she doesn't kill him because she like, she thinks about doing it.
She decides not to, which I think is kind of interesting.
I think she probably should have shot this guy.
Where she has to break her code.
The point will come, but it's not this.
I guess push her past her breaking point.
Her she's going to have to give up some of the.
Yeah, that's true.
I idealism of justice at some point, her hand will be forced to to act it more seriously.
Yeah.
But she has been able to kind of stick to her guns so far, but yeah, that can't, that
can't last.
Yeah.
So what do we think about this episode?
I like it when Oscar shoots a guy.
Yeah, it was good.
Um, yeah, I'm just hoping, okay, because this is like much more like things like bigger
things happening now.
And I'm just hoping this like pace and priority of things escalates and hopefully Marie Antoinette
can like be pressure cooked into a better leader or something.
I just something needs to change with her.
I can't, I can't go for 30 more episodes with her acting like this.
Yeah.
No, it's definitely like unsustainable, which is doing.
Yes.
And we're still a ways away from the actual revolution.
So.
Yes.
I guess you think a lot of like, I guess I'm like, at what point it's probably gonna
get knocked up.
We're gonna have a time skip, the children will be somewhat older and then revolution
maybe.
Yeah.
I mean, I guess I have all those kids and stuff like that, right?
Yeah.
Well, will there be any like development within Oscar's personal life?
Like, will anyone try to propose Oscar or will Andre like move on or who knows?
Like that.
Yeah.
There's not much like.
I mean, she's in house arrest right now.
So she's got all the time in the world to hang out with Marie, I guess.
So you got the dramatic books in stare at the portrait of her mom.
That's right.
Yeah.
Who's not the lady and waiting anymore, I guess.
She's haven't seen her around, have we?
No.
I haven't.
Yep.
Well, we'll set the filing down next time on the rose.
Three more episodes for like a like a fourth of the way through.
Yep.
Like in the show so far.
I'm glad I watched all three episodes this time.
That was my bad last time.
And yeah, I hope has your mom given any input like on Rosa for sigh thoughts, feelings.
No, we haven't talked about it in a little bit.
Okay.
Dang.
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That's pretty usual.
Um, so until.
Yeah.
What do we, what did we learn this episode?
What did we remember?
Um,
Don't leave the kids alone.
Don't, don't, if you're in a duel, don't announce where you're going to shoot somebody.
Okay.
Just make it a mystery.
She can't block everywhere with her gun.
Don't say you're going to shoot her in the head.
Don't shoot anyone.
Maybe it's a better message to put out there.
I think, I think if you could do opportunity, like you can shoot him in the hand and that's
like ironic or whatever.
Cause it's a good shot and now we can't shoot, but like you probably should have just put
one in between the eyes.
Oh my God.
I think she probably should have just, but cause they're going to be done with him.
I'm sure he's going to be a bigger problem later.
And like you might as well deal with it now.
When you have free license to kill a guy instead of later when you're going to have to probably
kill him in some kind of awkward duel or something.
Um,
I really wonder if like general Jarjaze was just cool with her with his,
with the Oscar killing this guy.
Cause he's like, yeah, kill him.
Who cares?
He was like totally unbothered.
It's like a code of conduct for like what you're supposed to do or don't like maybe you're
not supposed to try to shoot for a fatal injury or it's like these can't do that much damage.
So one bullet's not going to be enough.
Um, yeah, she could have killed him.
Let's remember a different.
Okay.
I mean, I don't kill guys in duals just a shame in the hand or whatever.
It's great.
Old ladies and Chuck.
The violence was off the charts in these episodes.
Every single episode had like violence in it.
Yes.
Oh my gosh.
That's crazy.
Um, let's see.
Um, if somebody gives you a speech from the law department and the narrator is like,
you should remember this guy.
You should probably remember that guy.
That's what we're remembering.
Yeah.
Make sure to remember people that the narrator tells you to pay attention to.
Cause the narrator is usually pretty good at like picking stuff.
Um, yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Don't get it tranced by beautiful women.
Just like, oh my God.
Yeah.
Uh, yeah.
Let's use reason and logic and my God.
I'm just going to be a fresh out of your team.
Dude thinking about one thing, even though it's like you guys aren't even doing anything.
So why are you even hanging out with her?
He's talking to her and she's annoying as hell.
So like that seems like a punishment and not like a reward.
Just funny.
I didn't want with you to Sweden.
Well, we know that first is going to go fight in the American revolution,
which is like probably happening right about now or like it's getting close to happening.
So he's going to go do that before he comes back.
I think.
Okay.
Maybe we're in like seven, 1770 something at this point.
75, I think.
Yeah.
So that's really close.
I mean, 76 is what happens.
Yeah.
Maybe he'll, um,
He's going to come back a war hero.
How some of that in this, in this show.
What's that name sound familiar?
Because he's the hero of two worlds.
Two worlds.
I mean, only the Americans like him because he was helpful in the American
revolution and the French do not seem to care about him at all.
Okay.
No, I'm a rush up on the,
I don't see him as a voice actor.
So I don't know if we're going to get much of him, which is sad.
No, well, I mean, not really.
I don't know.
Let me see the, let me see the, uh, my anime list.
Let's see what we got for what?
I'm going to see if Lafayette's a character.
Uh, okay.
You can search characters on, I'd fairly use that website.
It doesn't look like it.
Nope.
Oh well.
Okay.
Well, all right.
Well, that's it today.
That's that.
And.
Oh no, he's there.
Okay.
There you go.
Joe, your, your, your heroes are going to be there.
All the, all, all your favorite revolutionaries are going to be there.
Yeah.
Like,
I'm scared.
Uh,
Miraboo.
I mean anything to anyone.
Miraboo is a Pokemon.
Um,
uh,
anyways,
look forward to all those people.
We all know who they are and future coverage of the.
Here on show Joe.
Yeah.
And.
And I'll see you next time.
Bye bye.
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