Welcome Shojo listeners!
We are here at another series finale.
Exciting stuff.
I'm your host, Sarah.
Other guy.
That's Joe.
Joe for Shojo.
Important.
Hey!
We're here at the end of another show.
Yes.
We'll have like not that much to say, but a lot to say at once.
Yeah.
These episodes, again, it's never been clearer that this show was not supposed to get cancelled
than it was supposed to keep going than these two episodes.
Yes.
Well, yeah.
Yes.
Okay.
Not for sure.
But before we dive in.
Yeah.
All that.
Like with the series overall.
We have, I have, I have thoughts about that.
This is not going to be a short episode.
Yes we do.
No, it's not.
All right.
Okay.
Well, let's get our little catch up out of the way.
It's only been a couple of days for us, so I can't say that anything different is for
me.
Still just playing Dragon Age a lot.
My romantic interest, Leukannis is definitely like, like, flune worthy.
And every time there's like a scene, I'm like, oh, it's so handsome.
And so that's that's what I've been doing.
Um, how about you, Joe?
Hopefully you've been doing something more interesting.
Yeah.
So we're recording a little bit earlier this week because my parents are going to come and
visit me.
So they're going to be hanging out with me this weekend so I can't record during a normal
time.
But in the meantime, since we recorded last, I have beaten a couple of video games.
I finally beat withering rooms, which I had been playing for approximately forever.
There were a lot of like bonus stuff or like side objectives that I got around to doing
that I got around to doing.
And it was really fun.
I had a really good time with that game.
A lot of unfortunate like deaths that made me start over, which caused me to extend the
play time quite a bit.
But overall, I think it's like really fun.
So I had a good time with weathering rooms.
I also beat I'm during my Gears of War play through.
I beat Gears of War three.
So I am all the way caught up.
So I only have new things now.
So I only have the new Gears of War games I never played next.
So the nostalgia moment is over.
I can now proceed onto better stuff or newer stuff.
Who knows if it's better.
It might not be.
So I feel accomplished.
I always feel a cop.
I feel like I'm the speed of when I beat video games.
Yes.
I don't know if I've shared this with you before.
Yeah, like in high school or college or something.
So it's been around for a while.
Yes, I still I still have it.
So you know, Gears of War three was a replay that doesn't count.
But withering rooms was my 356th game beaten.
So bang, pretty good.
24 hours in that game.
Okay.
Nice.
So not approximately in forever or whatever you said.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, you know, that was 24 in game hours.
Yeah, I know.
But I have a long time clocked like 50 hours and four days.
So that's true.
Yeah, you have outdone me in a way that I cannot believe you were able to do that.
And such a short period of time.
I can't even like sit there and play a game for like four hours without being like I've
been doing this too too long.
I can go do something.
No, I don't feel that like oh my band had a poster fall down.
Oh, I've never been like, bang, I should probably do something better for myself.
Like take a walk or blah, blah, blah.
I'm like, if I want to play the game, nothing's stopping me.
I may I have not matured in that aspect since I was a child, I guess.
The priority of all else in life.
I see.
I just I can't believe you could stick with it for so long.
Yeah, because I'm liking it a lot.
Maybe not playing fun.
How many hours you put in?
So it's been tomorrow will be a week since it's been out.
I see my spreadsheet I keep I keep count of if they have like an in-game clock of how
much time I spent.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm trying to see what you compare like how it's rating against some of the other stuff
I played historically.
I've put 56 hours in 56.
That was that's more time I spent in Knights of the Old Republic, which was 41 hours.
It's the closest one.
It's less than the amount of time I put in Tales of a Rise, which was 60.
You don't play very long games, though.
I guess they've kind of talked about this.
Those games are long.
I played Slay the Spire for 58 hours.
That's pretty long.
I mean, most recently, my longest game.
I think the longest game in this list is when I beat Fire Emblem Three Houses three times.
We got all three of them.
168 hours in it.
Wait.
Oh, no, you're looking at your spreadsheet.
That's on steam.
Yeah, I'm looking at my spreadsheet, which is probably more time I should have been.
That game probably deserves to be honest.
Which game?
Oh, yeah.
Well, what do you think of that?
They basically set it up so there's three different versions of the game to buy.
If you bought one, you could digitally buy the other one at a lower price, I think.
No.
No, they're awful price.
No, Three Houses is one game.
You buy one game.
Sorry.
I am thinking of Birthright and Kong or whatever.
Yeah, never mind.
Two games.
I think it was just two games.
That one was way more gimmicky and I was not a huge fan of it.
Yeah.
It's one game and that's a great price for one game.
The bling thing.
Yeah, a lot of insusting stuff going on there.
You know, I don't.
That's an anime thing we haven't really touched on yet in this show, fortunately, but I feel
like at some point we will be touching on that.
I could pick a series touching on that.
Definitely not shied away from.
Yeah, we're going to have to talk about weird anime fetish tropes at some point and I'm
not looking forward to that.
Let me tell you.
But you guys are sure looking forward to our coverage of that.
We will eventually say stuff about it.
Mostly on the how are y'all able to stomach this?
And the answer is you just you just get immune to it at a certain point.
You're just like, yep, they're doing this again.
OK.
Yeah.
I'm going to like look past it for better things.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It turns out a lot of life is having to look past things that are bad.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah.
I didn't think to ask you before we start recording, but major things going on in the
world today.
I just think we can ignore it.
I just don't have to acknowledge it.
This is a we don't want to date ourselves.
So right.
This is.
We can just simply we simply do not see it.
Oh, that's why I do not.
I know.
I don't know if that's for it.
But I'm going to live under.
Yeah.
So yeah, you know, obviously the thing we're referring to happened.
Yeah.
I would say that we're I guess I'll speak for me in solidarity with people that, you
know, are going to be more oppressed by certain outcomes.
God, yeah.
And not supportive of people who want to do said oppressing.
That's the most vague I'm going to be about that.
I know.
I'm going to be vague at this point.
It's kind of like no ambiguity in terms of what I'm talking about.
Yeah, I know.
This is the only time that I've been like, oh, damn.
Like this, like at one point I was like, should I just.
Made a concern.
So it's the most real it's felt for sure.
Yeah.
Well, but that's because I'm selfish and I'm like, oh, that affects me.
But anyways, we'll move on.
So.
Okay.
Yes.
Well, that's why this is time where I'm like, oh, damn.
Sure.
In the years to come, we may have more things to say about it, but right now it's one day
out.
We're just going to we're just going to a shred of hope.
So I'm just going to act.
We're just going to that's all we're going to say about it.
God.
Oh, maybe we should go back to talking about incest.
You know, a nicer topic.
But we're not going to be talking with that today.
We're going to be talking about large age gaps because it comes up again in these episodes.
Yep.
Yeah.
Even less critically than the first time it came out.
Yes.
By recipients.
Okay.
So yeah, skip the episode 24.
Stage 24 correction.
Let's do it.
Yes.
Okay.
So skip beat time.
Here we go.
Skip beat stage 24 is called the permissible encounter.
We open on a depressed rent who has somehow drank two bottles of Scotch.
He has been watching the old Dark Moon show and is thinking about how he's a failure
and is just generally depressed on it.
It's unclear if he has drank both of these bottles of Scotch at the same time because
if he did, he'd be dead because that's a lot of Scotch.
I looked up.
What?
He's a big guy.
He is a big guy, but that's a lot of Scotch.
I did look up because you get a closeup on the bottles and I looked up the brands of
Scotch and I have what they are and how expensive they are.
The taller bottle is left for you.
I don't know how to say this.
It's like some Irish single malt whiskey.
It's 10 years and it cost $60.
So I'm buying some nice Scotch.
Yes, pretty good.
Okay.
The second is Chevasse Regal, which is a 12 year Scotch and that costs for $30.
So we're getting considerably cheaper right now.
You know, the second bottle, it's your second bottle.
So you don't have to do that.
Yeah, you've already had enough.
So like it doesn't matter as much now that you're hammered.
Yeah, just, you know, go for it.
Funny again to think that rent is only 20.
I mean, all the kids there is like, yes, I know whatever.
Yep.
Yeah, it was weird.
But it's just very funny.
It'd be like rent, Saruga, 20 year old getting wasted on whiskey and Scotch.
She's absolutely blasted.
That's what people do here too.
Just illegally.
I don't think they're drinking $60 Scotch though.
Okay.
No, unless they're rating their parents.
That's true.
The refined taste of an alcoholic celebrity.
Anyway, we got a worried Yashiro.
He's trying to call Ren who doesn't show up to work.
So, but he has to leave a message.
We then cut to the dark moon shoot.
Director Ogata tells Kyoko that he's got to move the production shoots around to adjust for Ren being gone.
Kyoko gives us a flashback to the end of last episode where Ren freezes up.
Apparently director Ogata asked Ren to leave the set for a while and he hasn't been back since then.
Well, I got to things he may have made a huge mistake by giving Ren a break like that.
But Kyoko says that it's probably the right thing to do because there seems to be something wrong with him.
Kyoko wonders if there's anything she can do for him but isn't sure if she can even help.
We jump to Shofua doing some recordings.
He flirts with his manager but she seems to escape.
But she does think he's cute when he flirts with her which is a wild thing for her to say or think.
She thinks he's taken the whole your ex's now a famous TV show star pretty well.
Maybe too well and we'd like cut to a fantasy sequence where Shou imagines Ren and Kyoko being lovey-dovey.
But then he's like there's no way that would happen because Ren and Kyoko, he's a big shot and she's a nobody.
So there's no way they would date.
And then he thinks that when he's a big shot he'll date the top girl in show biz.
But he can't get Kyoko out of his head so he starts screaming from the other side of the door.
It's all around an embarrassing sequence for him.
That's basically the last we see of Shou.
Yeah, good.
Bye bye.
Well, as we discussed, abrupt.
It's true. It isn't abrupt ending.
We jumped to Kyoko who gets off of work as Bo the Chicken.
She still doesn't know if she can help out Ren.
She thinks she could guilt him into telling her what's wrong if she were older.
So she's like a mentor to him.
But she's not.
Then she turns the corner and sees Ren sitting there looking super depressed in the same spot he was before when she saw him as Bo the Chicken.
He just hangs out here.
She runs away and is like, yeah, he'll be fine.
He has Yashiro to talk to.
It'll be fine.
Yashiro is not a good person to talk to.
Yeah, I'm not exactly the most helpful.
No, she finally stops and feels bad.
She thinks that he wouldn't tell her what's wrong if it's her, but he wouldn't tell Bo the Chicken so she gets back into the costume.
Ren is wallowing in his humiliation for not being able to play the role.
He's deep in thought when Bo the Chicken comes up to him and Bo is like, oh, Ren, my old pal, you look down.
Come commiserate with me.
And Ren's like, oh, hey, man.
But then he does.
But before that, we cut to a masquerade ball that Lori has put on on the dark moon set.
Like where they're shooting.
He's just hosting this.
Lori asks Ogata where Ren is and Ogata freaks out because he doesn't want to tell him.
We return to Bo and Ren.
After a while, Ren asks Bo if he's ever been in love and Kyoko is like, why the hell is he talking to me about his love life?
But then she thinks maybe it's related.
So I guess we'll just run with it.
Bo says that Ren's probably got more experience and love than him and Ren looks dour.
Ren says that it's unnatural for somebody his age to have never been in love the age of 20.
Bo is like, seriously, and Ren is very embarrassed.
Oh, man.
It's not that.
He tells Bo it's not that he's only.
I definitely had not been in love when I was 20.
I feel like that's pretty normal.
It's not like you're having the relationships in high school.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know if Ren went to high school.
You know, maybe he didn't.
He never learned what love is in his high school.
Romance didn't get a high school teen romance, which is why he's stunted.
Maybe.
Maybe that's it.
Me too, man.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I'm still I'm 30 now and I got nothing going on for me.
You know, cool.
Hey, he's pretty popular.
So I'm sure you've got girls screaming left and right like him because I'm also I'm as popular as Ren.
So Ruga TV star actor extraordinaire.
Yeah, I like to think of myself as that.
I'm basically him.
There's no difference between the two of us.
Anyway, he tells Bo that Lori told him that that he told him that like he can't do this job and it's all come true.
He doesn't know how to play the part because he's never been crazy in love before.
Like he has to play a guy who's into this chick and he can't do it because he's always kept his emotions in control.
He spirals and thinks he'll never amount to anything, but is interrupted by both stomping all over the place.
But was like, oh, I saw a cockroach and read is like, what the hell is wrong with you?
I'm getting distracted by a bug.
He gets mad and starts to pull Bo's head.
I haven't mentioned this, but Bo's in a chef's costume.
So he's like pulling the hat and Kyoko has to prevent him from taking off of the head of the costume.
So he ends up tearing the hat off the suit.
We jump back to Ogata and Lori.
Ogata has told Lori everything because he's a coward.
Lori says he's giving Ren three days.
And if he's not better by then, he'll you're going to have to fire him.
Ogata says that's kind of harsh.
And Lori reminds him that he saved his reputation on making the remake better, which you can't do if Ren sucks.
This is actually kind of reasonable.
Like if the CEO is like, what do you mean?
The main star isn't here.
Just fire him.
That this is the most normal thing Lori has done.
Back to Kyoko.
They reattached the hat and Ren finds the whole thing pretty funny.
Ren thanks Bo for talking to him.
He feels way better now.
And Bo's like, you'll do great, man.
And Ren immediately goes back to being dour because he just remembered his life.
Ren starts contemplating the nature of love.
What does it mean to be in love?
Bo says that if, you know, like looking at and, you know, hearing and staring into your partner's eyes makes you happy, then that's kind of love.
And Ren's like, oh, for real people feel stuff like that.
I know Kyoko Panics and decides to start very small.
She asked Ren if he's ever thought somebody was cute before and like, you know, you wanted to like stare at them a little bit.
Ren thinks about Kyoko and spaces out.
He says, yes, what about it?
And Bo tells him that those are the seeds of love as we cut to credits.
Boy.
Um, yeah, it's, you should just roll into the next episode, maybe.
Okay.
I do want to point out we are at the second to last episode of the series and we, and she is a Ren when you like, you think someone's cute, you might like them.
And he's like, oh, really?
My man started this episode downing two bottles of Scotch.
Okay.
Now getting Romance.
This is like not even one on one.
This is like whatever's before one on one.
It's it's intuitive feeling like clearly.
Yeah.
It's it's like, hey, Ren, you know, you feel stuff when things happen.
The phenomena of cause and effect.
Are you familiar?
Oh man.
He's so cooked.
Okay.
Skip beat state last stage.
It's last stage.
Not final stage.
Last stage called and then the door opens.
We open on rent thinking that maybe possibly it's kind of possible that he has some seeds of love for Kyoko.
A good place to start for the final episode of the series.
He tells Bo that he's hesitant to love them because she's in high school.
Bo thinks this is perfect because his love interest in the show is also in high school.
So he needs to pursue that relationship because it'll like parallel nicely for, you know, the method of method acting.
Um, Ren then clarifies that the girl he likes who he has not named is 16 and Kyoko tells us that that's the legal age to get married and then tells him to go for it as the OP plays.
So I guess we solved that problem of that question we had.
I know she's like all about it for someone else.
But like if some older dude is trying to be like, hey, she'd be freaking out.
She's just like, use that girl for your acting.
Basically.
She's like, I came here to problem solve, not think about consequences.
Yes.
Oh man. All right. Well, you don't Japan. You don't have to go to high school. You could get buried at 16.
Yeah, you don't have to go to high school. That's not compulsory.
Nobody will even ask.
We cut to Yashiro getting Ren from his room.
Yashiro is like, Hey man, I know this is tough for you and all with the TV show.
And then Ren freaks out because he's been thinking about love and not about the fact that he's going to get fired and leaves.
Yashiro wonders if he has anybody he can confide in because it sure isn't Yashiro.
We move to filming of Dark Moon Kyoko is doing well as Mio but has to quick change because it's a busy day.
She overhears it's me who plays Ren's love interest say that she's disappointed in Ren for underperforming and says that Kyoko is doing way better than him, which is a surprise.
Kyoko freaks out saying that she doesn't want to hear this and then runs out of the room.
Everybody's confused because it's me was complimenting her but Kyoko collapses on the stairs saying that none of this would be happening if Ren wasn't in a love funk.
She thinks back to her conversation with him and bow or him as bow.
I mean wonders why he's holding his emotions back. Why would he do this?
We got to Ren on a talk show. One of the hosts asks Ren if there's a girl he likes and Ren hesitates much to Yashiro's shock.
Yashiro gets a phone call from Kyoko and she asks him for Ren schedule.
Yashiro tries to gauge if Kyoko's into Ren but he gets nothing in the final episode of the series.
He looks at the schedule and says that he'll only tell her on one condition.
We got to Ren driving home. Yashiro told him to go home and prep for his character but only if he eats something.
You gotta promise to eat something man. Which I assume he just hasn't been doing all day.
While driving, Ren has overcome with anxiety for the role and also he probably hasn't eaten so he is swerving his car.
Unfortunately it was just an empty road so he just swerves into nothing.
But he does come to a complete stop and to his surprise Kyoko knocks on his window.
She's like, oh I've seen this car before. I totally didn't just see you swerve in the middle of it.
We don't acknowledge that.
Yeah, I'm not sure what's up with that.
We get the eye catch and when we come back we learn that Yashiro asks Kyoko to eat dinner with him and then listen to all of his acting problems.
Kyoko thinks she's being set up to be bullied but agrees anyway.
Yashiro wonders if it'll all be a disaster or not.
We jump to Ren's apartment where he sets two seats at the table.
Kyoko thinks he's angry at her but he plays coy.
We learn that Kyoko told him, she told Ren that Yashiro asked her to cook food for him and that's why he's upset.
But Kyoko thinks he's mad at her for some reason.
They begin eating in silence so Kyoko turns on the TV.
It's a dating show on TV with a couple aged 39, the man, and 20, the woman.
My god.
The whole show is about the 19 year age gap between them which is pretty funny.
Kyoko asks Ren what he thinks about the couple's age gap and he says more power to them.
Just like real on board with this.
Kyoko wonders why that doesn't bother him but the four year age gap between his girl is such a problem.
On TV the guy says that it's a problem when she was in high school but once she graduated it was A-OK.
No problem. All of my worries gone.
Kyoko wonders if it's a similar thing for Ren.
The interview continues and we learn that they were teacher and student.
Ren stares at Kyoko for a moment and says that he's realized something he shouldn't.
This is like...
Wait, a nightmare?
It was fun but they do do a bunch of weird variety show things in Japan so it's not out of the realm of possibility that this would be on.
Now this is normal. I usually turn on the TV and there's a TV show about my exact current problem.
That happens fairly often to me.
Ren's really relatable so obviously there's...
It's just such a normal problem. How could they not talk about it?
Oh my god.
This is crazy.
19 years.
They're like, oh he's one year younger than my dad.
And I'm like dude, you knew her in high school because he was his teacher.
This is the kind of thing that gets you fired.
I'm like put on a list.
Absolutely.
Like I don't understand. High schoolers are so like insufferable.
Like why would you like one?
Oh man.
We're all supportive here. Love is love says Skip me about the most cursed relationship you could ever hear about.
This is a wild turn.
I mean I guess we should just get to the end of the show.
But this is a wild...
I feel like such a fool being like I think they're gonna do something like really interesting with Age Gap here.
And then it's just like blaring and all like all bold font.
It's cool. Age Gaps are great.
As soon as she's out of high school, it's fine.
Yeah.
Yeah, it feels more subtle in the manga.
But it's following the manga exactly.
There's been no like deviation from plot.
Maybe the exclusion of certain small details.
You know, I...
Yeah.
I guess we can talk about it a little bit more after this.
I guess I should just keep going.
Keoko tells us that Ren barely talked after that.
Ren drives her home and thanks her for making dinner without looking at her.
Then he glances at her and nervously gets into his car because he's smitten, I guess.
Keoko tells him that she's looking forward to his performance on the show.
And Ren says he'll do his best.
Keoko thinks she might have screwed up the whole night, but she really wants to see all of him.
She says that specifically.
But like, you know, she means his acting skills.
Ren starts to regret always playing it cool as he holds up traffic by not going out of green light.
Later that night, Keoko thinks about corn in his magic stone.
Ren gets a phone call from Lori who tells him he's about...
That he's out of the show if he doesn't come back on his A-game in two days.
Ren still doesn't think he's got it.
Keoko prays to the magic corn rock and takes away to take away Ren's worries.
Meanwhile, Ren thinks that maybe he should pursue Keoko as a shooting star passes through Keoko's upheld stone.
She declares that it's magic.
It's the next morning and Ren agrees, Ren greets Yashiro with more enthusiasm.
Keoko wakes up with a good feeling and bikes to work saying that she's going to meet the new Ren.
While riding her bike, she says that she can hear the sound of a beating heart as the credits start to roll.
In a credit montage, Keoko recaps the events of the show while we get shot of all of the characters,
except for Moko, but then I later recognized her because she's just talking to some kid.
It ends with riding Keoko seeing each other and that's the end of Skippy, the anime.
Yeah, and then like tacked on ending scenes where we see all the major players from the season.
Hey, who's this kid Moko's talking to?
Yeah, that is I didn't remember that when I first watched this heat. His name is Heo and he's going to be.
He's going to have a little arc with Moko and then he'll kind of be in and out like Maria is a bit.
But yeah, so you won't get I didn't really I don't remember seeing him in the anime.
So it's cool to see him. No.
Animated.
It messed me up because I thought I like went through the whole thing and I'm like, dude, did we just skip over Moko?
Is she just not in this montage? And then I realized it was because like her hair is down and she's in like a costume or something.
Yeah, she's just talking to this kid and I'm like, who the hell is this?
So she's not right. She had to turn down shows promo clip because she had got an offer for a TV drama.
Yeah.
So she it's so that's they're shooting that so he's in a drama with her.
Yeah, we get cut to a lot of characters I didn't remember. And like when we first saw the director of the of the commercial, I was like, is that Ren in like street clothes?
I have.
I remember that it's really the brat from the tea ceremony arc. Yeah. Yeah, we saw Ruri saw the rich girl.
Oh, yeah.
We saw some guy I didn't recognize at the very beginning.
Oh, the director. Wait, no. Wait, let me think. Oh, he was the director of that tea ceremony one.
Oh, okay. The director. Okay. Sure. Yeah.
It was weird. They start with him and he's not just in the scene.
Well, we started with Soara, which I thought was good. And then we get and then we immediately cut to this guy and I was like, who the hell is this?
Yes. Yeah.
Yeah. You know, obviously the Moga doesn't have this sequence. But like these characters really don't get brought back up.
But like, this is the end and they got a, you know, I mean, such a thing with the credits rolling over it.
I like that. I like credit roll being like, Hey, remember all these characters you like.
And then like a little scene at the end, I actually like that quite a bit.
It even has like the final like a like a still like it's a video game being like thanks for playing. It's like a TV show.
I also really like that because I like it when video games do that.
They did play the original opening in the background and not the new one. Yes.
Which is the better opening of this series, I think. But yeah, that's it.
It's I didn't remember it being kind of such a not exciting ending. But yeah, I mean, you know, I did like the visual of like the shooting star passing through the like the stone.
That's cool.
A little, it kind of doesn't feel like Rens really resolved his problem totally yet. But I guess we're it's gonna it has.
I'm going to pretend like it has because I'm not reading the manga.
Okay, well you freaking shut I've see I've got the volume that this ends on which is like just the very beginning of this volume.
Which number is it volume 12.
And I think okay we're like chapter 67 basically is where we leave things.
Yeah, that sounds like 12 out of 50 right now. So a lot else happens in the story past the anime.
Yeah, that makes sense because like we end on the idea of or when having the idea that maybe he should pursue Kyoko.
Well, I think it's more of he's he's acknowledging his feelings, which is much further away. Like I thought the ending of Kimi D2D okay season one was like a golf where like they're kind of just friends.
This is even further away.
I wonder if we're going to end any show where the love the love pair is even further away from each other.
I mean this is but well let's see. And just there was about love really and then no, he needed to talk to you all about love.
And it's kind of takes a backseat in this series at this point in the story, like elements but nothing like acted upon.
Yeah, like it's brought up a lot and it's like used as like a framing device like the whole love me section and like this is your biggest flaw or whatever but like it really doesn't ever come up.
It's mostly just about Kyoko doing this job and having a good time becoming an actor, which like is cool but it's just like the very odd to me.
Yes.
Yeah.
So shall we do you want to like ask any unanswered questions and I can answer those.
Okay, is this so I guess.
Okay, yeah, I'm not going to like don't go into like huge spoilers you could just like talk about like if this is continued because I might read it if I get the time.
No promises, but it's possible.
So good.
So the first time we talked about the age gap and you're just like this is just like a like a roadblock basically.
Is that really all and like it's they just treated as like a reason for them not to get together and it's never really like they never talk about like actual real world power dynamics or anything like that.
Nope.
Okay.
I got the feeling.
It's not the only roadblock though right it's just like.
It's just like a glaring one, but like, because no one else, it's mostly just rent viewing it as a roadblock because Kiyoko is just totally oblivious to her being the girl in the scenario.
So, but there's other things that kind of come into play and mostly like what I've said in the past where like when has his own goals he's working towards and so he doesn't want anything to come in between that because that's like this whole reason for
living and
they kind of fights her on or fights it in all sorts of ways. But yeah, you know, because there hasn't really cuz technically show right is kind of the implied second lead but there hasn't really been anything there.
A few other characters will come along as like possible.
Right. Well, not exactly. But obviously Kiyoko is oblivious as she's not pursuing them as rivals but like other people who show interest in her and that you know it's like told to make rent on it more.
So, how long do they play that cuz like at this point and I guess.
Yeah, I'm not sure if this happens in the manga like mocha was clocked that Ren likes her. Yashiro has clearly clocked that Ren likes her. It seems like yeah. Yeah, oh God, the time to her realizing this should be pretty short based off of the people that are around here.
Is this like do they drag this out forever or does she like it's just like yes. Well she's they do drag it out forever. She should get an idea that this is happening. No, I mean, once she's like closed off to ever even thinking about romance really so that's her thing, keeping her from
like refusing to acknowledge but basically, I mean because there's all these acting based things that happen.
Because she still does the more like oh I just admire him as an actor for a while and then you know it like kind of starts to become more clear but she's you know denies. Oh that couldn't be you know no way Ren's the rock
and the tsaruga of all people is going to be into to me and this and that and so it's just a lot of like the Nile and then like doubt that they so like it does start to row or bloom but not for a long time like there's very small
milestones being reached where it's like, because they're still like they don't talk casually to each other they don't really hang out outside of work related things.
So, like kind of just getting on a more normal relationship level first before any romance. But it you know she is young so like, and as far as we know it's been about maybe like seven eight months since the beginning of the show and we're volume 12 and there's 50 so like the longer you play it out the
older she gets and then maybe it becomes okay I guess in the author's eyes. Okay hold on are you saying that they don't get together in like 50 volumes.
I'm not gonna say. I don't want to say anything specific but like okay okay so here's the thing that happened like in other, I guess like romance romance manga that I've read right which is like I read blue box which comes out.
I'm still in shown and jump right now. And I read Kaguya, Sama, Love is War or whatever when that was.
When I had a when I had a show and show subscription briefly. I mean both of those the way it kind of work is like they're they do though you know will they won't they think for like a while.
At one point they get together and then the show really or like the story really becomes about like that half them being in a relationship and half all the side characters love story stuff does that happen here or is it like that's not really what's going on.
I mean, I, it's tough to say because I don't know how much longer the series. Surely we've got to be like 75% done with the story, possibly.
Okay, that's not what it is right now.
No, but there are like moco will get.
And then I get added so they have their own little arcs that we get to see.
Okay, it does she ever get put in a bunny suit like the opening implies.
No, she does not get put in a bunny suit ever.
Okay, other like main characters that we root for because I feel like so far it's just moco and Kyoko.
Well, obviously we see more freaking show.
Are you supposed to root for show or like he has like character development blah blah blah so that's like I'm going to heal the whole time.
Like he becomes a cool guy.
Um, I mean, so well he still sucks right because that's who he is but like,
do we get chapters just about him.
I mean, not really independently like only when he's interacting with Kyoko.
Okay.
But yeah, I'm trying to think we get like some new characters as that we get a little bit more into more I mean right because if she does a new acting project and there will be new co stars to kind of learn about and all that's
become.
Oh, I was gonna say she will because it because after Dark Moon goes on for a while and not that like we're just watching them do scenes of that just that it's kind of like an ongoing thing in the background for a while.
So Kyoko obviously this is a show that's gonna be big and so she gets like a lot of exposure for that. And then she starts getting a lot job offers but they're all like villainous offers and she's like I don't want to hell yeah character.
You know, yeah, yeah, like I want to experience all sorts of different roles blah blah blah.
So, and kind of learning how to like, it's not like all of the characters are the same each of them have their own little nuances so it's not like she's exactly playing the same.
But like yeah, she's like, why can't I be a princess or something.
So at this point in the manga, would you say this is more a story about somebody getting into acting, or is this more a love story where the characters just happen to be an acting.
No, it's 100% like acting first. Because like the acting, you know, it's like career improvement but it's also like self discovery kind of for Kyoko. And with more of that than that affects her like life outside of acting.
So she'll kind of like learn from her roles and but yeah I would definitely say it's like, or at least for a long time it's mostly about the acting, you know kind of trying to open up her heart like with the love me section is supposed to be about and they're you know like slow
improvements with the romance stuff but that's not like, it's not like acting is taking the backseat to that by any means.
Because I feel like overall like all of the like a learning how to like do the acting stuff and like how to overcome the different things like for the commercial stuff that has landed with me really well.
And I feel like all of the stuff where they talk about love just falls flat for me so far.
And I think the takeaway of this show is like, it's a cool show about acting, we're like love is just kind of here sometimes and I'm like, all right, sure. Yeah, um, because it's a show of like a bajillion mini arcs, like either side jobs or we have the like
personal life will art like where she goes in these episodes to or when she takes care of them as a manager stuff like that so like a lot of variety and what we're seeing from volume to volume.
But like they all are like, well thought out and detailed. So yeah, so just kind of carries on.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's definitely like it's a funny anime but a lot of the like the author, as I said in the past just like if you read the manga you really get so much more out of it.
It's a lot funnier.
Everyone looks better because like, I think in the it's kind of this is like this happened with three spasks you where the very first volume like they're kind of still refining the art style so like by further into the series the art looks a lot different.
The volume has improved and that's definitely the case of this so when I first read this I was like what the hell like why is the boys face is so pointy and why is everyone so long.
But I feel like it gets a lot better like further in.
It's, I don't know, it's my favorite manga so I think, well if you do come down and visit for a few days and maybe Jenny, you and me can just go through my manga library and get beat.
Yeah.
I think it's all my questions.
So then in that case, let's move on to kind of ranking, which we've done at the end of our series up to this point and then kind of comparing to this other series as well so I'll look my question.
I'm going to say okay so for skip beat specifically.
Oh, okay I thought you dropped from the college.
Okay.
So my favorite character of skip beat. I think it's pretty.
This is so easy.
Yeah, he'll go.
Yeah, she rules.
She's just very entertaining.
She's a very distinct protagonist because Missaki is like the best example of what a lot of show Joe, or at least the manga that never get turned into anime is where it's like oh she's like vaguely nice girl that happens to have people interested in her even though she isn't maybe
necessarily that interesting.
She's just the vehicle for everyone to get to experience all these pretty boys.
But like, Sawako and Kyoko both had very like distinct personalities and problems to work through.
So, and yeah I think Kyoko is like the most interesting protagonist we've had up to this point.
Yeah, I mean they're all like similar in terms of like they're all very like genuine and authentic I think the thing that was Kyoko is that like the way her humor works is that she's just like a goofy little weirdo in like a charming
weirdo whereas like Sawako is also kind of a goofy little weirdo but much more of like a misunderstood way.
So it's like very fun to watch Kyoko just like be weird and see people react to that.
It's like very charming.
And opposite of that what's your least favorite character?
Show?
No, for Skippy.
Okay, yeah.
President.
I mean, show's obviously a bad guy so you're not supposed to like him.
But it's like not only do I not like him, I don't like the stuff surrounding him.
I don't like him coming onto his manager and his manager being like a little not into it but like yeah totally fine with it.
The whole thing is just kind of gross.
Yes.
So in like a saw me doesn't say anything either it's gross yeah I don't like him but beyond the like he's you know obviously the villain it's also just like it's kind of like the way they treat him is not great.
I mean at least him being sucky makes it more fun to watch Kyoko just absolutely despise him and root for her revenge plot.
What about, okay, last one for Skippy specifically and then we'll move on to all of them.
What was your favorite like arc within the series like because there's a lot of like many ones.
I think the commercial tryouts probably the best one.
I think that has the most interesting like solution.
And also just like the dynamic between Kyoko and Moko I feel like pays off the most like that's the relationship that has the most payoff.
Yeah, like the whole series I feel like.
So I end up liking that quite a bit.
Yeah, I that one's really good.
Because we get to know more about Moko and their fun dynamic and then like it's funny because it's like, you know, the part where all the other girls are like desperate for to get this role and like I want to be a star and they're like oh my god now I understand why I'm in the love me section like.
It's fun that they both differ, you know, are kind of experienced the same conclusion with different experience.
Yeah.
So what's your top three because I was trying to I thought maybe we do this I was thinking of one and two is pretty easy.
I don't know who I'm picking for three.
Three is hard.
Okay, so one Kyoko Moko and yeah, three.
What's number three?
Like there's like a huge drop off at that point.
Yeah, I like Maria.
I was just thinking that like in terms of like characters I wish got more screen time Maria is probably up there.
Yeah, she's fine because she's just like a girl but cute and rich.
Yeah.
I guess that's it.
Yeah, let's go with that.
I don't like dislike Ren, but it's just like yeah nothing.
You know what I mean?
Like robot man.
I don't feel like his interactions are productive and he's not that funny.
No, it's his moments are funnier because Kyoko's interacting with him.
Yeah.
All right.
Are we doing show comparisons now?
Yes.
So first off, which series has your favorite opening intro like the song?
Yeah.
Well, just the song and the whole opening.
Yeah.
I have to rewatch some of them.
I don't.
The Skippy ones did not stick with me.
No.
I mean, I think Angelic Layer visually has the most interesting but I don't really like the song and then I like the songs for Kimi Nii Tadoke.
It was pretty like static imagery.
Yeah, I don't like the animation for the opening.
Actually the latest one for the third season one for Kimi Nii Tadoke.
Yeah.
Yeah, I like the Angelic Layer opening. I'm watching it now.
It's the most like dynamic.
Yes.
Yeah.
The song is pretty good.
Yeah.
Okay.
Should we keep track of this?
Should we like a spreadsheet?
Oh, of our rankings?
Yeah.
We should set that up.
Not right now, but we'll do that.
Yes.
Okay.
What is who's the best main character, which we kind of covered?
We could rank them.
Number one Kyoko.
Oh, yeah.
Number two Sawako.
Number three Misaki.
Yeah, that's pretty easy.
Best couple, favorite couple from any of the shows.
Probably was it like Ryu and Chizu?
Yeah.
Did we rank that the top?
Or did you like Ogata and that random chick?
I know.
No, I'm okay with Ogata and Shuko.
Is that who he was with?
No, Ogata was with What's Her Face.
The like other.
The song.
Wait, no.
Oh, I forgot.
Okay.
Cause we have Ogata.
And this is the director of God and the other one is like the goofy
screw up.
Yeah.
Coworker.
Yeah.
Okay.
I guess.
This like ready Kyoko barely count cause it's like you get a gesture
at a hint at the end of the show.
They're like last because it just didn't happen.
Yeah.
Well, there's no other romance in Skippy in the show up to this
point.
Nope.
Oh, what about the ace get couple on the TV show?
Oh, they're, they're last.
They're even more last.
I guess, I guess, I guess, uh, Chizu and Ryu are number one.
Then huh?
Yeah.
Well, yes.
There's this.
And then.
Then I saw a kid.
Was there any other relationships?
Is it just the three is Sawako and causing.
God damn.
What Kent and yes.
Are you putting that above the angelic layer ones?
Cause angelic layer, it's like what?
It's, um, uh, Katara and, uh, Tamiya.
That one.
I didn't.
I didn't love kids.
What about each, uh, each.
Each on and it's like the sucky mom.
Each on and shuko each on and shuko is better, is better.
Is it better than.
And what's her name?
The character we like.
It's just keeping my name too.
Um, what's her face?
Fuck.
The one we want to see it was.
Um, it's, um, I on a.
I on a.
Yeah.
Can't deny on a, uh, man, I do not like can't deny on a that much.
I'm putting, I got shuko and, um,
pretty each on shuko and each on above I on a and Kent.
But it's like.
No, I'm sorry.
I on a and.
I on a.
And not can't, but then I really don't like shuko.
I'm sorry.
The, I actually, you know what?
I forgot about the power couple in Kimi.
They're in a angelic layer.
The.
Shoot.
What are the names?
The, the.
The couple.
Yeah.
The guy who has.
No, no, no.
In angelic later.
Oh.
Oh, oh, yeah.
I'm sorry.
That's, that's fine.
I'll see you guys when I fall.
I can take the lead.
Thank you.
Got a.
No, no.
The.
Yeah.
The guy who got forced to play the like new.
Yes.
Yeah.
His wife is chuko second.
I like them a lot.
Yeah.
They rule, yeah, they're good.
They get number three.
They can be.
Yeah.
Be below.
Can't read their names, but.
I definitely score higher and then I'll put each on and shuko
and then I'll put I on a and Kent.
Um, it was like,
and then I guess I'll put,
we didn't get very much of them,
but what we did see was good.
And then I'll, yeah, and then I'll do a Katara and.
Oh, Katara is boring.
He is boring and they have a.
Oh, no, no, no.
I want to put imaginary coupling,
Karumi and I on a.
Oh, oh, we're doing a magic coupling.
What could have been?
Number one is, um, it is Si and Kayate.
Oh, yeah.
We just ran she's we can keep track of it.
Yes, I know not no girls love.
The girls are the best possibilities.
Yeah.
Um, too bad.
Okay.
Um,
haha.
Okay, let's do.
Yeah, but the angel, the skipie race last on that.
Yeah.
Best one relationship.
Best best best school uniform.
There were two in Kimi.
Did okay, right?
Just that one high school.
But they have like the summer and winter.
Yeah.
Well, yes.
And yeah, that's the only one we've seen, I guess.
Yeah.
Um, cause like I would say their winter would be number one for me.
Cause I really like the color.
Um, pretty straightforward, but, uh, and then.
Yoko's is so unremarkable.
I hate hers.
But like Angelic layers is so weird.
I like that one.
I like it being weirder.
I'm going with, um, keep me to do okay winter.
Angelic layer.
Keep me to do okay summer and then skip beat.
Yeah.
Um, okay.
And then last one I had was which series had the best finale, like ending note.
Number three, which, which season of keep me to doke every talking about here.
Cause like very wild way.
That's true.
Okay.
We can do each.
No, no, no.
We can just do the last one.
Okay.
I was like, but it's like so good.
We'll do the last one of each break.
I mean, this is easy for me.
I'm going to say Angelic layer number one, probably just because like it was good.
Uh, you know, everything addressed.
Um,
I mean, it's kind of unfair because like that is clearly the end, the designed
end of a show where the other ones can't be in like, well, it could end here.
We could keep going.
Right.
Like clearly there was more in the other ones.
Um,
I guess keeping me to doke two.
Yeah.
Some of the seasons ended on a high, even if it was like a low until the end of the
season, but yeah, I mean, they did clearly attempt to be like, this could be the end.
Cause now all the girls are in relationships and we're happy about it.
Yeah.
And then skip B, which is just like, what if we said the problem is solved and cut the
credits, which is awesome.
I think we should have a, I think we should have another list.
Okay.
Another one for best, for best side character.
Oh, yeah.
Because I feel like this is the most strongest contenders, right?
Cause like the best side character in angelic later is a toko for sure.
Yes.
The best side character in immediately.
Okay.
It's probably a young and Karumi and then the best in skip B is I guess moco out of
these.
Okay.
Um, I'm going to say number one is I on a and number two is.
Number two is.
Then number three.
Karumi.
No, uh, moco and then number.
And then the next one.
So moyo number one for you.
I don't know.
You mean I don't think to moyo sit.
I mean, to also find a toko.
I can throw her in there too.
Uh, I think it's how goes going to be number one.
There's something funny about like a sassy kindergarten or that I really like.
Yes.
I think it's really goofy.
She does.
She, she's into movies.
We know this about her.
You fabric.
We don't know that about her.
She has a doll that's like a ninja.
It's cool.
Yes.
Yeah.
I'm putting the toko one.
Number two.
I guess I on a, I kind of took a hit in season three.
Yes.
I know that sucks.
But Karumi wasn't in season three.
I don't remember what I ranked before.
Yeah.
So yeah.
So I guess, I guess I'll do I on a and then Karumi and then.
And then probably.
And then.
She's who and then moco.
Yeah.
We don't get to learn very much about moco and skip beat.
Yeah.
I know because I, because she has.
What you saw with that he a kid.
That's like a whole arc where we learn more about her life outside
of acting up to this point.
And then.
Yeah.
I don't know if she's fun because she's kind of like angry like.
Yeah.
Different way.
She's also.
I love that.
Yes.
So.
She didn't give enough screen time.
I mean, I guess my biggest thing about skip beat is that like.
You jump around arc per arc so much and like not a lot of characters
carry over so you don't get enough screen time with the characters
that you like.
Yeah.
I mean, like we get her giving or answering the call from Kyoko
during the promo clip and.
When she thinks that she, yeah, like it becomes more clear.
We get more of it, but like she's very much like number one in Kyoko's
heart.
Like yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
So I think that's Moko.
So like Moko.
Is in a very like.
Advisory role in a lot of.
Uh, things.
But we do get to see her grow as an actress as well.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah.
Skippy's the most.
I'm like, I just should have gone longer.
Clearly.
Worst planned ending.
Like, but it was very enjoyable.
Like for through most of it.
Oh yeah.
I mean, I would definitely like watch a season two.
It's not like I thought this was a good stopping point or like I was
satisfied with it.
You know, I think that's yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's good.
I think it probably is smart that it's more about acting as a career
and not so much the love story because the love story as it was
like it was not working for me particularly like, you know, age
gap aside.
It's just not that interesting like the, the, the like for the
first time in this episode, it did make sense to me.
The like, oh, you're supposed to be like yearning, right?
Like he's supposed to be yearning for somebody he can't have.
And I do get the appeal of that.
But like that's just so not him that I just don't think it would
end up being satisfying.
Right.
Like I feel like there's just so much buildup that would have to
happen that it would just get exhausting before I am like on
board.
With it.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
He also is in the situation in which the girl he likes is like
close her heart and like has been.
Yeah.
He's like that's a lot of work to get.
Yeah.
That like is explains a lot of why it like takes so long for
anything to happen between.
Because she's very much going to be fighting it or in denial or
just not seeing it.
So it's going to be, it's going to be kind of like with.
Where we're like poor cause I hire like it's so clear.
He likes saw a call and she doesn't see it.
And that's kind of.
Yeah.
It's the season two problem.
But like for longer.
I'm going to get to break it up with a bunch of other stuff because
it's not really about.
Yes.
Which I think it's smart.
But like.
Yes.
Yeah.
Not particularly working for me.
And this is going on for a long time too.
So like who knows what like from when this series first started
with the author had in mind to.
I mean, it's not coming out.
Is it going to be a good climax?
Like, does he feel like it's building up to them being together
being like a good climax?
Or is like the climax going to be something else?
Cause I'm still pulling for her becoming the new Lori just
becoming the president of the company.
Just a possible takeover.
I want to do the mad man thing where like they start their own
firm.
You know what I'm saying?
No, no, that does not happen.
That would be great.
She is 16.
And no, she doesn't have business minded.
But like we get to know like we, we meet her mom and.
Oh yeah.
We didn't even talk about that.
That's like a huge thing, right?
Yeah.
I completely forgot about it.
Yes.
Yeah.
So we learn more about that dynamic between them.
We learn about her mom, why her mom treats her like that.
We even learn a bit about her dad.
So like, yeah, stuff like that.
Yeah.
I know that doesn't happen very much.
Certainly not.
I mean, we get a dad and came in to doke,
but not a word of it and Angelic layer.
Yeah.
And friends background.
And yeah, yeah.
So it.
Read the manga.
It's so good.
It's my favorite manga ever.
Um, but yeah.
Okay.
We're done with Skippy now.
We're going to reveal what our next series is going to be.
And that is probably one of my favorite.
Animes, which is Chi Haya Furu.
Uh, which is.
The, which is kind of us.
Well, it's kind of similar to Skippy where like has a.
Actually like a thing other than romance is the focus.
And romance is like peppered throughout.
Um, but it's kind of like a sports anime almost, uh,
about this like traditional Japanese.
Hard game.
That's memory and, um, like speed based.
So it's like really exciting to watch all the matches and then like the
art's really pretty.
And, um, it's just like, I don't know, sports anime, like.
And not into that sports, but if there's a good one where it's like,
yeah, I love volleyball now.
And I didn't give a rap to ask about until I watched high Q and things like that.
So, so much so that I bought a copy of like an English translated card deck.
That I now force people play with me that no one wants to play with me.
Cause it's like a lot to memorize, but.
Um, yeah.
Chi Haya Furu is what we're going to be getting into next.
And I, and we'll see how season one goes and.
Uh, yeah.
So the way we're going to watch this is because it is three seasons and 76 episodes.
Plus, uh, it looks like some movies, OVAs is that we're going to watch the
first season first, and then we may watch something else in between.
We're going to see how we're feeling before we kind of roll into it.
So it's not going to be like the next year is going to be just Chi Haya Furu.
Yes.
Yeah.
Cause there's three seasons.
Um, where can people watch this?
Uh, it's on crunchy roll.
And, um, yeah, I think that's it.
Right.
When we looked.
Yeah, probably, but yes, it's, it's so freaking good.
Man.
I got to get into the manga, but I don't think I've ever seen it sold here.
But yeah, so look forward to that.
Uh, you can go ahead and watch.
We, I think we're doing two episodes because it's more action based.
So that'll take kind of longer to talk through.
So we'll do it like in Jelliclayer.
Yeah, we'll start with two episodes.
We'll see how we're feeling.
If it's easy to summarize, then we'll do three.
If it's not easy to summarize, we will do two.
That's kind of how we get this.
Yeah.
So watch episodes one and two Chi Haya Furu for to watch along with our
coverage of it.
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What's our full house like lessons learned moment.
This episode.
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It's like a really nice way to spread out watching stuff.
So you don't get stuck in a binging hole where you just watch a
bunch of episodes of a thing and then forget about it a week later.
Um, so please join us for that and let, uh, let other people know
who you think might be interested that we are doing this so we
can gain and expand our listenership.
Yep.
Yeah.
Uh, also, yeah, I guess I just, because we saw it to do
recommendations, I don't know.
I just jumped the guy.
I recommend, um, just cutting the podcast off.
No,
it's just daylight saving.
I'm like, it's so dark.
Like six 40, six.
Yeah.
Like you said, we're like, oh, we're going to record at 530 and
I'm like, Oh cool.
530.
And I go on.
I'm like, oh, okay.
I'm like, this is a, this is a really good time.
And then it turned into six and it's dark out.
And I'm like, dude, we're,
it's going to be like the midnight hour when we're recording
this persona reference.
Um, okay.
Recommendations.
So.
I'm starting to think like maybe.
Should we be like, oh, I should only recommend something
someone can actually experience now.
Cause.
No.
I think it's funny.
Okay.
I recommend going, uh, being in my, uh,
high school,
graduating class.
Um, what a place to be.
I'm kidding.
I don't actually remember that.
No.
Uh, okay.
My recommendation is a game that came out on the game
cube in 2006 called Chibi Robo.
And, uh, like, I've never met anyone else who's played that
game, but it's, uh, kind of like you play as this tiny little
robot.
Cause this is a world where like robots are kind of like as to
do household chores and like assist the household.
Um, so Chibi, which is like, you know, like, oh, small, cute.
What's the actual translation of Chibi?
Is it just cute or no, it's not cute.
It's small.
Small.
I don't know.
Okay.
And then Robo for robot.
So you're a little robot and, um, it's cute cause you like have
your little, have like your little cable, like your plugin that
you got to carry around with you.
It's like attached to you.
So then you like charge up and outlets and stuff.
Uh, but like, you know, kind of doing things.
You're little.
So the house is huge.
So that's kind of the like environment.
Um, and there's like a mom, dad and daughter.
That kind of interact with and there's like different puzzles.
Like different areas.
There's even a big robot that like used to help, but like shut
down so you can like fix him up.
And then you have like gig a Robo and, um, it's just very cute and
kind of cozy and laid back, but with clear objectives.
And I just remember it so finally, whatever, uh, cause we're not at
the point where game, cube games are on the Nintendo online thing
yet, but maybe once that's the case, then I can replay it
hopefully.
And apparently there's a sequel on the DS, which I haven't played
called, uh, like if, if flash or something, which I haven't played.
So I can't attest to what that looks like, but TV Robo, good
luck finding it.
Good luck playing it.
Uh, that's my recommendation this week. I bet you Joe, I'm going
to recommend something different.
The normals here.
I'm going to recommend a, well, this is like a music album
playlist.
Listen to on Spotify.
Um, this is called Epic the musical, which apparently is a,
well it's a musical adaptation of the Odyssey, right?
So like the, you know, the classical furniture thing.
Um, but it's just the concepts of the musical.
And so what is being done is that they're recording the music
that could be adapted into a bunch of different songs that kind
of go through the entire Odyssey, which is pretty fascinating.
So one of my friends term, like put me onto this and I listen to
it with them.
Um, it's pretty fun.
I think it's like a nice way to go through the Odyssey.
It helps if you're familiar with it.
I think you can just read the Wikipedia summary.
Um, kind of like figure out what's going on.
It's pretty interesting.
It's like, oh, it's like an interesting thing to do.
Um, apparently there, this, the person who's doing this, so this
is done by, uh, let's say Jorge Riviera, her on us.
I'm probably saying that wrong.
Um, has been documenting this on Tik Tok, like developing this
musical, uh, unsure to the status of that, or if this will
actually get adapted or I'm not really sure how this works.
I kind of just learned about this pretty recently.
Um, but that being said, you know, the album is fairly long.
It's like 35 songs of, you know, I guess that's what, uh, seven
little snippet albums that have like five songs each.
Uh, it's pretty interesting to see the takes on the hope of
the Odyssey.
I just think this was like a fun thing to go through.
Uh, so if you have any interest in that, you can search for
Epic the musical and you'll get like a playlist that has them all
in order.
Um, you do need to listen to them in order because it is,
you know, a sequential story.
Uh, yeah.
So if you just have time to do that, it's like a fun thing to do.
I just, I just thought this was very charming.
So Epic the musical, interesting stuff going on, stuff going
on and Tik Tok that I don't know because I'm not on that app.
It's for the best.
Um, uh, speaking of recommendations, I did, um, because
I had recommended a podcast, I think recently.
And so I just DM the Instagram of them saying like, Oh, hey, I
know like minimal probably listen across between show Joe anime
and like celebrity, uh, coverage.
But I was like, I recommended you on our podcast and then she
was like, Oh my God, that's awesome.
I should check out show Joe.
So I was like, Oh, we're actually covering a series kind of out
show biz.
So we should start there.
So maybe she won't listen, but it's like, that was fun.
Networking.
It's more than I'm doing.
I'm not doing any networking.
Yeah.
And yeah.
So that's our episode.
It beats finale and, um, we're ex, I'm freaking stoked to
rewatch Chihaya Furu.
Um, maybe you'll, I don't know.
Do you, I feel like we got excited watching angelic layer.
So, and I think we'll get that same kind of energy of like, yeah,
that was awesome.
The Japanese poem game.
Yeah.
Not expected thing to get excited about, but I promise you it's awesome.
We'll feel the hype.
And yes.
And somebody who somebody, one of the voice actors we covered
for skip beat was a main character in that series.
So we'll hear from someone again.
I don't remember who it was, some dude, but.
Yeah.
Um, so till next time, everyone be a person.
Be kind to others.
If you're in your mid to late thirties, don't date a high
schooler.
It doesn't matter if they just got out of high school.
I still think you should really consider your life choices and
what you're doing.
And then maybe decided not to date somebody who just got out of
high school.
I don't know.
I, you know, maybe there are better options.
Maybe you should try speed dating or something.
Maybe you should look around you and think about your life and
ask yourself if you really should be dating a high school.
What does it say when you're in your late thirties and they are
below the age of 21.
Yeah, please.
Please just throwing that out.
Anime crazy romantic dynamics ends here.
If it's a, if it's a four year age gap, it's a little different.
If it's 19 years, man.
You know, I really hope they're in high school.
They're in high school.
Yes.
Like for a chart bonus episode about incest and anime.
We're not doing that.
You cannot, there's nothing you can do to make it.
Title like that.
Yeah.
Talk about bad tropes.
Yeah.
So far it's been our worst.
It's probably been our worst trope.
Yeah.
We'll get.
We'll start getting some more for sure.
Listen, I've seen it.
We're going to get some more stuff to this.
Yeah. Well, I think we'll do a bonus episode on a series about
a girl whose mom gets remarried and the,
her stepdad has 13 sons that she now lives with.
And it's based off a dating sim.
So we'll do a bonus episode on that.
So that'll be fun to cover.
Um,
I don't know where we're going to record some of these bonus
episodes. We're still working out the schedule.
We have a lot of ideas.
Yep.
So I get around to it.
We'll be figuring out.
Once, once failed guard is.
Finished.
Complished once at least,
which I'll be going to play that immediately after we.
Here.
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
So I hope you guys enjoyed listening.
And we'll see you or.
I always say, oh, we'll see you next week.
I guess I don't need to correct myself by saying like,
we'll talk to you next week, but.
You'll see us in your feed next.
Week.
We'll have the opportunity to listen to us next week.
Yeah, you're welcome.
All right.
Bye bye.
Bye.