Happy October, Shojo listeners. It's your girl, Sarah and your boy, Joe, here to tell
you all about Skit Beat and our thoughts and feelings. And just talk about fun stuff in
general. You know what? Look, I'm going to switch it up. Listen up, people. We always
do the right interview at the end of the episode. But you guys aren't doing this. I should put
it in the beginning, right? Force you to listen. You didn't tell me that we were doing this.
No, I didn't. Is that fine? Is it fine? I mean, I think it's kind of if this is like
the first step. Okay. If for some reason somebody is listening to the Skit Beat episodes 16 through
18. That's their first experience of the first thing they hear is like, you should rate us
as like, well, they don't know what we do. What do we do? Say, well, what Looney Tick
is starting at those episodes, but it's a good question. But just to remind your people
that we want those. Okay. But we'll try to guilt you guilt trip you more later for now.
Joe is going to tell us all about his exciting life. Wait, what do we do on this podcast,
Sarah? Oh, fuck. Okay. Don't listen to this first episode. Turn it off right now. Okay.
So Joe podcast is about show Joe the anime genre that is typically intended for young
girls and was, you know, hit its peak in the 90s and early 2000s. And the episode or the
show we're currently covering Skit Beat is more like of a specific thing acting, whereas
a lot of them typically are school life based. But yeah, well, we already cut last series
we covers came in each of those days. So that was more of that typical school life,
the romance deal. So we're going to try and like keep it keep it fresh with varying types
of show Joe. So we're wrapping up Skit Beat soon and we'll see what we cover next. Is
that good? Yeah, that's good. I mean, you didn't talk about me. Oh, well, I talked about the
podcast. I know, but it's like, why is it called show Joe? Because I haven't seen it.
Okay. And you have Joe here. Oh, right. Yes. I'm a girl. So obviously I watched the
girly shows as a kid and Joe only started watching stuff on to Nami and they did not
play girly stuff there. So he is not very familiar with the genre. And so I'm showing Joe show Joe
get it? There you go. Show Joe. We did it. Maybe I should just make a good one. I should
just make like a good intro and then just have that play every time. So I don't keep
forgetting. I think I'm going to do it every time. It's good. I think it's fun to have to redo it
every time. Yeah. This is a people that people don't come here for our automated messages.
No, people come here to listen to what unique thing we have to say every week.
I know. I feel like you're the one bringing the interesting things to the table. I'm just like,
I took a bunch of naps and that's about it. You need to start going crazy. That's what I'm saying.
You need to start just like doing some wild stuff. I make some like weird drink and describe it.
No. Mix together hot chocolate and like Pepsi and tell me how it is. Ew. I don't like carbonated.
I don't drink soda. Groty. Oh my gosh. Ew. I have one exciting update. I guess we could.
Yeah. Go for it. Should I go first? Okay. People. This is not real. This is real.
It is finally feeling like fall in Texas. It's like actually pleasant outside in the mornings
and evenings. Like I just we're not quite, you know, where it's cold throughout the whole day,
but we are getting there. And that is exciting because like what Joe's worried about, if you're
a first time listener here, I hate the Texas heat, which is almost always so that sucks.
So when it is not miserable outside, I get really excited. So much so that I even think,
oh, maybe I'll like go on a hike or something, which is so out of character.
But let's see. Normally we catch up on what we've been doing. So wait, that was the whole thing?
What? The weather is better? Yeah. It's exciting. I thought you were like leading into something.
I think you're like, the weather is better. So I decided to go do this. It's just the weather.
I thought about doing something. I considered going outside. Aren't you proud of me?
It's not quite there yet. I need to be able to wear a like jacket and not get hot from
moving around outside because it's still that. Oh, yeah. Anyways, you can't relate anymore.
You have like a lovely cold season going on for you. It's nice. It's like I get to wear pants now.
When you were here, it was all you knew. So you didn't know any better. You grew up in Texas.
Yeah. I mean, I visited other places before. It didn't just like it was confined to Texas.
And then I like realized that there are other seasons that exist. Yeah. Oh man.
I feel like a lunatic this episode. I was wrong.
Anyways, anyways, things I've been doing. I finished Life is Strange and I crumbled and got the
ultimate edition of the next one because then I get to play the first two episodes before release,
which I'm doing. I finished the first episode yesterday and was the replay.
It was fine. I don't remember having like extreme feelings about anything the first
time I played it, but like I freaking hate the character Chloe. She's so annoying.
Dude, she's fine. No, she's a troublemaker. She's your friend who doesn't have fun.
She's ungrateful. She lashes out to everyone. The worst ever. Well, anyways,
spoiler alert, if you haven't played Life is Strange and you plan on playing it at the end of
the game, you have the decision to either like save her life and basically the town gets destroyed
because you have jacked up the timeline or you sack her. You let her die so that things don't
go horribly wrong like that and save the town. I freaking say the town. Bye bye, Chloe. Like
I know that's the end of the game. How does the next one start? Like because it has to pick
up ending, right? Well, no, there's like you have a conversation and they ask you like, oh,
who's that girl in the photo you keep? And you can say we are friends or we were like high school
sweethearts. And then you can say and they're like, oh, well, what happened? You either say, oh,
we grew apart or we or she died. So there's like kind of you determine for this game what the
game is. So it's like the Mass Effect thing kind of where they're like, hey, what happened last
game when you tell them and they're like, OK, but like she can't be in it because she could she
could be dead, right? Well, I have only played the first chapter, but from what I've seen online,
it's I think she'll she. OK, basically, well, I guess it's a time travel game, so there's no rules.
So well, the the gameplay is different. So like the powers don't work exactly the same. So so now
I might have to actually live with my choices and not just redo them when I like. It's more like
shifting dimensions than the time of the world you're in currently. Interesting. OK. But so far,
I like it. I let's see. I mean, the graphics are definitely better. It's a different developer now.
So it's like, don't nod was the original developer. And then at some point, I guess Square Enix has
this developer called Nine Deck that did Life is Strange, True Colors, and now the double exposure.
And yeah, so I bigger budget, so it definitely looks better. Less cringy because they're not
high schoolers. This is like about 10 years after the first game. Yeah. So and I feel like they
like all the character interactions feel a lot more organic. Like I could see someone. This is
like how someone would act and gesture and. Yeah, facial expressions seem normal. So that's good.
That's good. Yeah. So we'll see how it goes. Hopefully it doesn't make me cry at any point
or something. Would hate to feel something. Well, yeah, I don't want to feel feelings.
I just want to be like fairly neutral at all times. I don't want to feel super.
Why? That's not that fun. I really sacrifice not being super happy than being super sad as a risk.
Yeah, but it's a story. It's not, you know, you just sometimes sad stories are nice. It's like,
oh, look at that. No. Oh my God. Also, spoiler alert. Okay, I'm not going to really go into the
details. You're just spoiling everything for season three of Box Machina.
That came out. Maybe cry. Yeah, go ahead. A minute or something. I'm not going to say what happened.
I'm just I'm just saying something happened that made me cry quite a bit. It's not really a spoiler.
I know. But just in case they're like, oh, no, what happens? Did you like Sarah who has a heart
in heart cry? I didn't bother. I definitely like something happened. And then anytime they like
refer to the thing that happened, I started crying again. Wow. Oh boy. And you thought it was all like
dick jokes and violence, mindless violence. In that you're talking to me or the audience?
I don't know anyone who's watched the show because it kind of gives off that.
I have never thought of you as dick jokes. No, that's the show. Oh, yeah. I don't like that.
The show totally is that. Yes. Not what I'm into. But that's like, you know,
a part of it they'll have to deal with. But yeah, I guess essentially, I mean, it's like I got one
more week and then basically two weeks from now for two and a half weeks, it'll be game on for
Dragon Age, Veil Guard. Right. So freaking stoked. So get ready to listen to me talk about that a lot
in future episodes. How about you? Yes. How about you? What have you been doing? I've also been
playing some games. I beat Fatal Frame. I beat the PS2 game Fatal Frame one. That sounds kind of
2001. It's the one where you take a picture with a camera of ghosts. Just like a strange, but no
ghosts. Yeah. I mean, this one is like a camera, first person shooter kind of. I mean, you walk
around. It's like, you know, Silent Hill where you walk around, but then you attack things with
the first person camera. Oh, I'm scary. Yeah. It's a scary game. I'm playing scary games for
October. I know I saw on the discord. I put in one we could play together. It's only like three
bucks on steam. Oh, yeah. I played Fatal Frame one. It was pretty fun. I feel like part of the
reason it was pretty fun is that I could save state because of the way I was playing it because
that game is extremely unforgivable. You can like save whenever you want as opposed to like when
you save at save points because that game does not have that many save points. And also the
boss battles are like extremely unforgiving. Like they're not that hard, but it's just like if you
ever mess up, it like takes off half your health and you have like an extremely limited amount of
healing items. And so it's just like, it's so punishing. And like the last boss, even like
one shot to you basically. So it's like, okay, well, if you know, if I died during the last boss,
I would have to replay the entire segment before it, which is probably like, you know,
five minutes or something. Yeah. And I've had like four times. I would have been 20 minutes if I had
to do that. So that stuff is not great, but that's just right. Yeah. Wait, what? Dark souls of the
camera as your weapon. No, I mean, it's not, it's not like that precise. You know what I mean? It's
just like a, because the controls are a little janky, right? Because it's like the horror game
kind of thing. So like not everything responds perfectly. Okay. I can see that being part of
that. But you know, there's some definitely some quality of life stuff that wasn't around in 2001.
For sure. That is around now. So I had a good time playing it in, you know, 2024
with safe stating and a walkthrough. But if I didn't have those things, it probably would
have been pretty difficult, but yeah, well, it's not JRPG. So it's not like it's gonna,
it's freaking JRPGs or you have the freaking safe, like interact. Not a lot of games. Like this is,
this is also a resident evil. This is also silent hail did this. I mean, this is an Asian
company or developers, right? Well, yeah, those are, these are all Japanese games. I love punishing
us. I guess. I mean, that's just like a style of game that you can like do. I mean, if they do it
now, I mean, it used to be like that because auto save was not a thing because the hardware wasn't
that good. It wasn't really until later that like things got better at like checkpointing and stuff
like that. I guess. But nowadays, if something has a manual save, it's because that is the
the like style they're going for whatever, which is why I am not like people are like,
oh, are you playing like a refan? Tasma or whatever? What's it called? The like the
not persona persona game metaphor? No, I don't know. It's it's got some.
I don't know. I like the art style is a little more like, I don't know, like got the
or dramatic or something or stylized like persona character, purchase are so clean.
But these ones are metaphoric. Fantasio. Right. Metaphor was in the name.
Names like that make it feel unapproachable, you know, like for someone. Oh, I've been to it. I
love when you just throw some shit on there. We're talking about something in this episode
where it's just like being over the top and I'm like, yeah, that's right. Just throw more words
into it. Just make the longest subtitle ever. But yeah, like the Shimigami Tensei games, which is,
you know, the yeah, the what persona mainline series that yeah, that Prana's been on is all about
like the dungeon crawl. You can only save. It's really punishing. And I think that stuff sucks.
Yep. Yeah. I am not a fan of that stuff because I don't care. I don't care about your game being
punishing. Like, you know, I play like Dark Souls and Elden Rican stuff because those games are
hard, but they're not punishing, right? Like you die and you like you have to walk. You have to
run back for like 30 seconds or something. It's like nothing. And those it's like you die. You
have to replay like 10 minutes of gameplay. And I'm like, I'm just not going to do that after a
certain point because I don't care, actually. It's not interesting to me to have to replay a section
because you made the wrong choice for a thing. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I'm playing that. I beat that
game. It was pretty fun. I'm also playing all of the Gears of War games again. I'm like, you know,
I never played four and five and they also there's also like a tactics game that came out a couple
years ago. So I'm like, I should play through the whole series again. So I played through one
on like the ultimate PC edition or whatever. And it's like, okay, yeah, this is kind of like how
I remember it. But then I played two and I realized that everything I remember is from Gears of War
two. I don't remember any of the other games. They only remember that one. So now I'm playing
three and I'm like, wow, this stuff happened. I don't remember this at all. But that definitely
came from an era when like sequels were just like uniformly better than the previous one. You
know what I mean? Like it just took the previous thing and like expanded all the stuff you wanted
to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like definitely from an era. Like I also remember that being between
like the jump between like Halo one to Halo two to Halo three. You know what I mean? We're just
like, oh, this is just like across the board better. Like there's very few things I miss.
A time where, you know, like games were still gaining in popularity and technology was
drastically improving or is noticeable between generations of things. Because I feel like,
I don't know, sequel. Well, I don't know. Assassin's Creed. That's the only one I can think of where
it has like current sequels coming out. I don't know. I mean, lots of games of sequels. Yeah,
I'm like games that I'm familiar with though. I'm not sure. It's just like not as obvious
that the sequel is going to be better than the original. You know what I mean? Like that's not
it. Like they I feel like they used to be a given. And now it's just like, well, you know,
they're going to make some changes and maybe you don't like those changes. Now it's more like a
movie where they're going to focus on other things. And maybe we don't like that. The first one was
good. So you're worried the second one's going to not hold up. Yeah, I mean, this has never been
true in movies, right? Like it's it's you never know if a sequel is going to be as good as the
first one. And most of the time it isn't. Sometimes it is. But for a while, their games were like
that. And now they aren't. And it's just interesting to go back to an era where that was
kind of a given and be like, wow, I wonder if I'll play Fatal Frame two and just think it's way
better than the first one. That's fun. It's fun replaying games. You haven't played in a long
time. Sometimes they hold up. Sometimes they don't. Yep. And video games. Yeah, we love.
I don't watch anything. Oh, yeah, I've watched stuff. I don't really know. I haven't like finished
any of it. Like, you know, I started watching Space Run Away, Idiion, which is another old mech show.
I started watching. You still up to your sputch. Oh, how is that? Someone I met at TwitchCon kept
or mentioned that that was good, but I'm like, it looks a little freaky to me. It's not freaky,
particularly like it's not scary. You're worried about the new horror, you know,
melancholy of Haruhi, Susan Mia is from the description is what I got. That's kind of like
the I have never seen that. So I don't know. But yeah, like it has a good opening. The animation
looks pretty good. I'm not so hot on the sex jokes in it. Come on, man. Why? They're not that bad.
The first episode is pretty bad. But the after that, like I've only seen the first two episodes.
Second episode is totally fine. The like, PC-ness of Western media is not the same in Japan or
like there it's like the established rule that like all shown in anime is going to be pervy.
And that's what people like about it. So why change? See, I don't think that's true, though.
Like I don't think all shown in stuff is pervy. Like attack on Titan is not particularly pervy.
No, that's because that one's just a bummer all around.
Yeah. I mean, but like a lot of the newer ones pretty much aren't like the new
season of Bleach really isn't at all, particularly. I mean, there's some weird stuff.
Well, maybe it's not really pervy. If they haven't, if they don't have any female characters
consequential enough to be regularly in the show. I mean, what else is popular that's not
super pervy? I feel like Demon Slayer. Demon Slayer wasn't really no.
Fire Force definitely was. Fire Force contain like character dedicated to that role.
Combined. Yeah. It's like not pervy except for one character who like in the show in the text of
the show is like this sucks and everybody else in the show is like, yeah, it sucks if this happens
to you. And then it just keeps happening because the author is a weirdo. Yeah. I don't know how
I feel about it. I feel like it sucks. Spy Family doesn't. Yeah. I finished watching the second
season and started the movie. Yeah. Yeah. So I feel like it's a really like it's really
things have gotten better in that regard for the most part. But then freaking Chainsaw Man,
that is like all it is. I could not watch that show from how much of it was pervy.
That's out of control. Chainsaw Man is like that's part of the plot, though. I was like,
oh my. It's important to Denji's character that he's like this. I was like clutching my pearls.
I was like, oh my God. Oh wait, over what? Nothing even really happened. I don't know. He's just much
more like explicit with his thoughts rather than like it just being implied. I guess. Well, that's
because it's not like it's not supposed to be like a titular fan service thing. Like it's not
supposed to get the audience going. This is like part of his character. I click. The thing about
Chainsaw Man is that him being like a horny teenager is like important to the plot.
Which means that the show is going to comment on it and has things to say about it, which I
like more than other stuff where there's just fan service and nobody acknowledges it. And I have to
be like, well, why is this even here? Like why are why is like perverted stuff happening if we're
just going to like not if it's not if we're not commenting on it? You know what I mean? I guess.
Yeah. I mean, as soon as the cute dog was like, damn, what is the point of even watching this?
If there's not a cute little chainsaw dog mascot gone immediately. The problem with Chainsaw Man
is that I like the stuff that happens later, but we won't get to that for a couple of years.
So I keep having to like try to be like, no, it's it's good. And everybody else I know is like,
eh, I don't really care for it. And I'm like, well, you know, eventually we'll get to a part
where some stuff happens. That's the coolest shit ever. But it's not going to be for a little bit.
It's definitely not going to be next arc, which I don't particularly like.
What do you think of One Punch Man? I saw season three is finally coming or announced or something.
I didn't watch season two. I didn't watch it. I don't. I need pretty characters.
I like it's fine. I think it's fine. I think the like the joke it has kind of runs this course.
And then at a certain point I'm like, all right, well, I guess we're kind of done here.
Yeah, that's true. There's no training montage if he's where the strongest dude ever. No tournament.
Yeah. Nothing like that. But I don't know. I didn't watch season two. People didn't like it
because of I guess like the budget was not as polished. So okay, I saw on Instagram or something
there's a show called Uzumaki or something. Yes. That's like the first episode was like
incredible quality and the plummeted and it surely or people were like, is it intentional or but I
read that like the show was like a lot got cut or like. Yeah, I know that that one got delayed a
lot of times. I don't know if I don't know if that's like the quality is back because like what
happens is, you know, the first season has like some stuff like the second season has some sequences
where like they don't, you know, it's like it looks like kind of like low res things. But that
looks also the way that the manga does and like so much of that show is trying to imitate Junji
Ito's style in it, like what it looks like. So it almost kind of works for me even though it's
like, you know, it looks a rougher like it doesn't look as clean. But that is like how it would look
on the page when you draw somebody in the distance. So it didn't really bother me. Okay.
I don't really know. Yeah, it's a horror. It's a horror. I've never read a horror. I don't think
I've ever been into anything. I don't know that manga owns. I own that physically. It's good.
I don't know. I guess attack on Titan is slightly in the horror genre. Maybe. Yeah. No, it is
definitely like the first several seasons for sure. Only one I've probably watched.
Because I feel like anime when it's creepy, it's like creepy like Elfin. Elfin.
Elfin Lee. The art Lee. Yeah. Just the like style that they animate the violence in that show gave
me the heebie jeebies like creepy. Yeah. There's a lot of like gore violent stuff you can animate
pretty well in those. Yeah. But but we are here to cover happy lovey dovey shows. And speaking of
pervs, we get to see show in some of these episodes. Yeah. I was thinking that was more of the horror
thing. Oh. Well, the horror of we have to hang out. Yeah. Okay. Well, seamless transition. Yep.
Seamless transition. So this week for a voice actor, I tried to look at the voice actor for
Yashiro, but this person doesn't do a lot of other stuff. So the voice actor for Yashiro is
Masahito Kawanago, who plays the character Gaston in the 1997 version of Berserk.
He was one of the guys in the in the mercenary crew. I've never seen Berserk, but I know this.
He's also the helicopter pilot named Mike in Resident Evil 4 in both the 2005 original and
the 2024 remake. Okay. So that's fun. He plays a character named Skull in Power Rangers in Space.
Oh, no. Oh, no. I've never even heard of that. He plays one of the demons in Inuyasha named Yako.
I think if I know that one, it's like in five episodes out of like 100. So you probably wouldn't
recognize that. Oh, and really freaking. Yeah. Okay. Inuyasha is long. And then he has like a bunch
of additional voices and things like Watch Dogs 2 in one of the Ronma 1.5 OVA is in Serial
Experiments Lane. Okay. So this seems to be like one of his major roles. Gosh, yeah. Well,
he's a star to us. He's a star to us. We love Yashiro. He shows up in this episode. He's
splendid every time we see him. He gets to be like the one adult. Ren is 20. That is incredibly young.
Like not mature age at all in reality. Yeah. He's 20. Yeah. Insane. I mean, yeah. I don't know.
Like Kyoko seems to look up to. Yeah. I'm dreading the point where we have to talk about the age gap.
We're eventually going to have to talk about the age gap where she is 16 and he is 20.
I don't know. What's the age of consent in Japan? It's probably lower than it is here.
Guess what? I don't really care what the age of consent is for stuff. I still think the age gap
is not the greatest of all time. It's just at that phase in the life. We don't have to talk about that now.
Okay. Yeah. This is not that bad if they were older, but it's just that currently she's
a delicate flower. Yeah. Well, that's because I mean, age gap isn't about the actual number. It's
about like what you, where you are. Power dynamic. Yeah. Yeah. It's not about that. Okay. Well,
anyway, we'll talk about that when it becomes relevant, which thankfully is not relevant
exactly at this moment, but we're approaching it. We're building the. We're building up to
me being like, all right. So why is this happening? Okay. Right now we are at skip beat stage 16,
which is called dislike versus dislike. Again, we open on Kyoko. The bad, the weird title. Sorry.
The other titles make sense. I feel like for the most part,
this one does not make a ton of sense to me. I can think I can talk about what I think it means
later once we're done with it. Okay. Sorry. Shutting up. That's okay. We open on Kyoko being
crushed by a collapsed Ren. She notices that he has a fever and tries to get up, but she can't
push him off of her through the wall. She hears Ren co-star talking loudly and is annoyed that
she couldn't remember her lines earlier, leading Ren to getting sicker as like bad to stay in the
rain for like retakes of that shoot, which also was the reason why she's trapped in the floor
right now. She Kyoko is like, I could remember those lines. How come she couldn't remember
those lines? And then she starts reciting them from memory. And upon hearing this,
Ren wakes up and then he says his lines like in response back as the OP plays. We got back and
Ren gets up and Kyoko thinks that he's still like acting in character. Like he's, he's broken out of
his like sort of looking for fatigue to be in character because he, all he knows is work.
He starts to walk off and she tells him that he's sick and should take the rest of the day off,
but he just gives her a stern look and then leaves. He works the rest of the day. Kyoko comments that
he must love acting. The work day ends and Kyoko is missing. Ren gets off of work and finds that
Kyoko has like run to the store to buy a bunch of medical stuff. She gives him a cooling pack and
makes him some shaved ice to eat, but she does this while they're in a car. So she just, she like
makes shaved ice in a car on the go, which is incredible. Yeah. She also bought a bunch of food
that she starts to prepare also in the car. Ren thinks to himself that she really put a lot of
effort into this and that this might be her being her true self. It reflects. So that is like,
how does she know my throat hurts and I can't swallow? Like, dude, because everybody knows,
because everyone's been sick before. It's not special. It's the most like, oh, yes. Ren is not
like a human being. He does not know how to be normal at all. Like he could only be like
head down in his work or like Mr. Charming man, but as soon as he has to be a regular guy,
he's just like, damn, people like know what being sick is like. They didn't just, how do they know?
How could they possibly know this? Oh, man. Wild. He reflects on his memory of Koko when they were
young. He thought of her as an overly romantic girl, but then remembers that she also gave 110%
on everything. She says that she became his platonic idea of a Japanese girl.
Because he's not Japan. And, and, uh,
what? Obviously he's like, oh, yeah, I didn't pick up on that. I didn't pick up on that. Okay.
This is what Japanese girls like, like he didn't grow up in Japan and was surrounded by Japanese
girls. I see. Yeah. That makes sense. We come back to Ren's apartment. He's lying on his enormous
bed as Koko changes his eyes back to this bed is huge. He's huge. He needs a big bed. I mean,
he's big, but like, yeah, I know, but he's, it's not even like he's like taking up the whole
bed. Like the bed goes out for like another one. It's enormous. He says, he says, thank you to her
and calls her Koko-chan, which surprises her. She goes back to study, but realizes she's just been
thinking about how Ren called her that instead of actually like doing any work because she's
still trying to pass her entrance exam to get into high school. It's the next morning. Ren feels
better. He walks out to Koko in the kitchen making food, but she was also like trying to study at
the same time. So she ends up messing up the meal. She hasn't drink this gross vegetable smoothie,
and he hates it. We learned that his memory of last night is hazy and Koko is unsure if he remembers
calling her Koko-chan. Ren thinks to himself how wrong he's been about Koko this whole time and how
she really is acting now, like how he remembered her in the past. We cut to Ren's, what? Sorry,
I missed the timing on when you're taking a breath. Yeah, I take a pause after these things.
That's what you say stuff. Yeah, sorry. Okay, I'm seeing these episodes in particular,
a lot of context is being cut out because he's like, I feel, or he's like, did you dress me like
the young girl had to change me into pajamas? Oh, he did say that. And in the manga, she says like,
no, and that flashes to how she got him to get changed. But she just kept saying the lines over
and over. So he would wake up and then she'd like act like it was a line and say, get dressed and
stuff like that. Using acting to make him do these things. Uh huh. So interesting cut. I do like how
this is portraying him as like all he knows is acting. For sure. Okay, so we cut back to Ren's
film shoot. Kyoko keeps looking at Ren instead of studying. She gets annoyed and starts to wonder
if he hates her or like, does she still hate him or like, what's going on here? And while thinking
about this, she does an impression of him with her like doll that she makes. And he catches her
doing this impression and he tells her that her impressions pretty good. And she is embarrassed.
Ren steps out to read the next script for like the next scene or whatever. And while reading,
he thinks more about Kyoko and how she is dedicating her time to him, even though she doesn't like
him. Kyoko goes out to find him because she needs to like bring him something. But sees that he's
studying his lines, but he can't see her because he's like sitting on like a stairwell. So she's
like under the stairwell. He's trying to remember his lines, but he can't because he's sick. Kyoko
hears him struggling and figures it might be easier to remember your lines if you have a partner to,
you know, hear the responses. So from beneath the stairs he's on, she starts to say the lines.
Ren says his lines in response. And then he walks down to see her. He wonders if she's really an
amateur who's only been at it for six months. I mean, look at how good she is reading these lines
that she memorized. Crazy. Moko is rubbing off on everybody. Everybody can just remember their lines
now. So they're doing the, you know, back and forth until eventually Ren breaks from the scene
and compliments Kyoko's acting. Kyoko tells him that she's been learning a lot from the acting
courses and that it's been really fun. And Ren is surprised and asked if she's learning to,
like, aren't you just learning to act to beat show, right? But Kyoko adamantly denies that.
He asks why she is and she says that it's an effort to recreate herself independent of the
expectations of those around her because she is trying to learn how to become her true self.
She comments that Ren probably thinks that's stupid, but she looks up to see Ren smiling
genuinely at her. He says that he completely believes her and Kyoko decides that she doesn't
hate him anymore. It's that evening. And she's still staying at Ren's place. She falls asleep
while studying and Ren wakes her up, which freaks her out because he's too nice to her now.
Ren comments that she should get some sleep since she had to take care of him yesterday.
But she says that she still needs to study and he's like, well, why do you need to study so much?
It's not like you need to get like a perfect score. Like you could probably pass as is.
Kyoko realizes that he's right and she doesn't need to be perfect. She tells him,
or no, he tells her to relax and like, you know, go take a bath or something. And she's like,
that would be a good idea. But then she remembers that she's in a guy's apartment. So she's like,
I can't take a bath in a guy's apartment. And he's like, what, you think I'm gonna like,
peek at you or something? Come on. Who do you think you're talking to? And then they like,
go back and forth a little bit as we end the day. It's the next day and Kyoko and Ren are stuck in
traffic. Kyoko says they're going to be late, but their taxi driver says he can't do anything about
that. Ren floats the idea of taking the bus. But Kyoko is like, dude, you're too famous to be on
a public bus. Then she sees a guy riding a bike and gets out of the taxi. She commandeers the bike
and tells Ren to get on and Ren thinks that it's a silly plan. But if she can get him there on time,
then she will get a hundred point stamp from him as we cut to credits. Nice.
Bonding. They bond to this episode. This is a bonding episode. Yeah. They don't hate each other
anymore. Right? I guess the dislike versus dislike is they're both kind of at odds with each other
for different reasons. And the reasons kind of get addressed or resolved. They actually aren't at
odds with each other. It's a misunderstanding, right? Yeah. Ren's weird hang up is that he
thinks that she's only doing stuff to get revenge, which like, if he'd ever talked to a normal person,
I think he would realize that nobody would actually do that. That's just an excuse.
That's just a normal skill set of a human. Yeah. It's weird how much he just kind of takes people
at the word. You know what I mean? Well, that's like when we saw him agonizing over the script for
that very commonly understood phrase when she was in the bow suit. It was like, how do I know what
tune it is? Yeah. It's like so apparent what that means, but he didn't get it. Right. Well, it's
interesting because I assume that a lot of acting has to do with the fact that sometimes characters
say not exactly what they mean. And so you have to figure out what they are doing because you want
to act the way that they mean, even if it doesn't reflect the dialogue, right? Which is I assume
a lot of it. In these episodes, it's always like, hey, what is my character supposed to be thinking
while doing this? Or like, at what point am I supposed to make like internally the decision
to start acting a different way as a character? I guess he's just not that good at like looking at
that in real life. I guess he just like separates work from hanging out with people like the real
world. Well, all he does is work. Like I don't think he's hanging out with people at all. Yeah, we
don't see him like have any friends, huh? No, just Mr. Yoshio. Like he hangs out with Yashiro. He's
his manager, but that's like his manager. That doesn't count. And talk shows. He just yeah,
when he's not acting, he's like promoting his acting. So he's keeping up the facade of the
celebrity and not hiding loose like I need to. Yeah, or even like going to a movie. Like, do you
think he watches the movie? Like, what is he doing? You know what I mean? I'd probably give them a copy,
a personal copy before release or something. I mean, he probably has to go to like the screening
or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, premiere. The premiere. Yeah. So I mean, I guess you see that.
But like, you know, what does he do for fun? What does he do outside of this? I don't think he
does anything. No, I don't think so either. This is so sad. I mean, Kyoko at least has Kyoko as a
friend now. Yeah. And making cursed dolls and cooking and all. Yeah. Sad. Wild. Right. Sad.
But look, they're connecting. They don't hate each other anymore. And all it took was, um,
bread needed to be nursed back to health. Oh, okay. One thing they, the subtitles, when he
says Kyoko Chan, they say Kyoko dear. I'm like, that's so weird. Just say Kyoko Chan and the
subtitles like, they're making it seem like. The localization. I mean, how do you. But like.
If this is the first anime you're watching, you're not going to know what the context of it is.
Way more than what Chan means, you know, like it's making it seem like he's
saying the word dear and not just her name with the honorific. It's so weird. Yeah. But like him
saying her name with the honorific is like more like has weight to it in a way that wouldn't,
if it like somebody else said it to her, you know what I mean? I know, but like, it's so weird.
I get it. It's hard to localize. It's hard to localize that. Yeah, I guess.
Like, how do you communicate that? Like he's being like, um,
you know, familiar, but in like a more intimate way than regular familiarity.
I don't know. I hate it. Okay. Sorry. They should just know. Watchers should just know
exactly what the intention of the line is. Other animes don't do that. They just show the honorific
in the subtitles. Yeah, I know. But like, again, this was like localize at a specific time. It
depends on what like you think the audience is going to know. Like this is the part of
localization that's hard, which is like, you don't know whatever, like what they've watched
besides this. I guess. I know. And all the manga I read, you know, you just go to the very back
page and explain like things like that. Like it would have, um, terms there,
or at least it because the manga has a lot of Japanese references. So she always puts like
these notes on like, oh, this is the context of what this means, blah, blah, blah. So, but that
doesn't come with an anime. Yeah. TV shows do not have glossaries. Okay. Moving on.
All right. Well, they're friends now, I guess. They're friends. Maybe more. No.
Maybe they want to be more. Maybe specifically wants to be more and Kyo-ko doesn't seem to care
very much. So stubborn. Neither one would admit it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, stage.
Stage 17 is called day to fate. We open on Kyo-ko getting ready for school.
She tells us that she's been Ren's fill in manager for a while. And also in the meantime,
between last episode and this episode, she passed her interest exams. She can go to school now.
She bids the boss is farewell as she rides her bike to school. I have a comment about her
in your school uniform. What? It's so basic. Unremarkable. It's like, not that interesting.
Yeah. Cause it's like a flat skirt. Does she ride a bike with a skirt? Just gonna be flapping
her long of a skirt. He's everywhere. No, I'm saying she's, I mean, like it's gonna be. You
sit on it. What do you mean? Well, you sit on the bottom, but if you're pedaling, you're moving
your legs and the skirt isn't that short. So if you're moving, people would be getting
panty shots when you're pedaling. And with the movement of air, it would, you know,
in the front, because it's not like it's a fitted skirt. It's, it's a flared skirt. So it is more
valuable to the elements. I mean, I guess so. It's not like that short. I was like,
damn, no, it's not like super short. But yeah, it's not a very, what? Cause it's like a celebrities
school that you think it'd be super flashy or just more interesting.
Well, I don't like the blue bow tie. She's a bow tie and it doesn't match the skirt. And I'm like,
they need to do better on this. I like the bow tie. It's not a school life one. So it's not like
well, she's constantly, and that's the only thing we're going to see her wearing.
Yeah. If it was a different color, if it matched the skirt better, I would like it.
It's like a green plaid skirt. I don't remember if there's any blue highlights in it or not.
Yeah. But red would probably go better or just black.
It's also just like, I don't know. Can you, it's weird to like match a bow tie, which sits pretty
high up on your torso to highlights in a skirt, which is pretty low. Cause then you have this
entire like void white space where your blouse is. I don't know why I'm talking about this,
but it's too much space. There needs to be something else in there, you know?
Well, it's, it's like, what is the winter? What does the winter one look like? Cause maybe the
coat at least is cute. The blazer. I don't know. Oh yeah. It probably works with the blazer, maybe.
We never like learned what seasons it is in the show. Like what time of year it is necessarily,
do we? I don't know. I guess it also takes place over like a shockingly short period of
time. It's only been six months. Yeah. I feel like, no, cause she referenced like
in the commercial audition, like, oh, back in February, I like lost all my happiness or something.
So February is when it happened. It's been six months. Then it's like August.
Okay. That would make it warm there.
Start being, yeah, I'm not really paying attention to like, is Ren wearing a coat? Maybe I should
be. I should be paying attention to Ren's outfits. Yeah. I know some of them are like,
oh, that's too many buttons, dude. Like he wears a lot of layers. My God. It's hot. You gotta be
hot, dude. Yeah. He's always in pants and dress shoes. And then sometimes wearing a hat hat makes
it hotter. But I guess he's like trying to shield his identity. So he's not harassed constantly.
I mean, I guess he apparently never thinks about it though, because he's like, why don't we just
take the box? No, yeah. I mean, even if they, okay, yep, no.
She's excited to go to school, even though she says her school is kind of abnormal and we get a
scene where her, where she's like in her fine arts class and everybody's talking about how they have
to take time off to go do like for issues and stuff. So, you know, I guess she went to like a
magnet school for like specifically these types of show biz kids. I don't know. Yeah. Just because
they all have stuff going on. They need flexible schedules. Yeah. Which I guess makes sense.
Let's see. She realizes that she needs to go to work after school. So she heads right on over.
On her way, she sees the soda commercial play on one of those like big billboards on the side of
buildings. And some random girls comment that Moko is very talented, but they can take or
they can figure leave Koko. Koko is distraught, but carries on anyway. She gets to Ella Me.
Yeah, no, I mean, she looked fine. Yeah, she looked happy. But they don't like her.
She's too serious. It's the hair color girl. It was a bad choice. It's too orange. I like it.
And they're her too. It's light brown. It is. Oranges can be. It matches her eyes at least, I guess.
Yeah, she could definitely be like, I don't know. She could show up on like the Muppets or something.
You know what I mean? Like she's got that kind of like big flashy profile with orange hair.
Yeah, yeah, that's true. Like her natural setting is to be very like formal and, you know,
traditional interactions, but then she can be so extreme at the same time.
Yeah, I mean, it's good. Like, you know, I would always recognize her if I saw her or something
and she had that hair. She should not always put her as her stage name.
She picked a different name. She probably doesn't get to pick, right? Like it's probably
like she probably isn't big enough to have a stage name yet. I guess we'll we'll see it.
Because like commercials don't have like credit sequences. You know what I mean? No, they don't.
So she doesn't have like a persona yet. Yeah. Let's see here. She gets to Ella Me and Wren
calls her. He teases her for walking around so boldly, even though she's a TV star now,
what with the commercial and everything. She looks up to see him standing a floor above her.
She goes to see him. He's with Yashiro. Who's back and not was he sick or something? I don't know.
He's fine now. He tells Mr. Or Wren tells her that Mr. Soara gave him her phone number and he asks
why she's not wearing her love me uniform. And she says that she came straight away from school.
Wren sees her in her school outfit and says that's good because he wants to see her in the outfit
and like it really suits her, which embarrasses both Kyo-go and Yashiro, who's like, yeah,
that's why are you complimenting her outfit? Well, because he's such he's like the most
desirable man in Japan or whatever and he's just throwing. So, you know, him saying anything
complimentary and make most girls slune. And even if you're a grown ass man is embarrassed.
This whole like all of this stuff that's happening is so funny from Yashiro's perspective,
because it's like, oh, you were like pinning her to the wall near the girl's bathroom. Yeah,
a couple of weeks ago. Now you're like way too flirtally commenting on her outfit. Like what's
going on? Yeah, it's very good. Kyo-go thanks him for taking the pressure off of her last night.
And Yashiro wonders why these two are suddenly on such good terms. Wren says he wanted to thank
her for being his fill in manager. And then he gives her a hundred point stamp.
Kyo-go gets bashful saying she didn't really set out to do anything to make her thank her. And
Yashiro is like, ah, you're being humble like no manager would nurse their client back to health.
That's like totally not of the job description. And Kyo-go is like, wait, really? I thought it
wasn't the job description. And then she explains that she was doing all that stuff because if he
missed work, that would like be her failing her job, right? Wren hears this and is displeased.
He takes or he hands her the stamp slate back and she sees that in addition to the hundred
point stamp, he has taken off 10 points, giving her a total of 90 points. Kyo-go is confused and
says that, or he says that he used the wrong stamp. Oops. Elsewhere in the talent section,
Mr. Sawar gets a call from Queen Records about wanting to shoot a promotional video for Shofua.
We cut to show playing Kyo-go's soda commercial on like a recorded TV, like he recorded it.
Show asks his manager if she knows who the actress is and she says her name is supposed to be Kyo-go.
Show wonders that if this Kyo-go is the same as his Kyo-go, but he hasn't seen
Kyo-go since she changed her hair. So he can't be sure. But he thinks it probably is. Although he
has seen her at the gas station. He didn't know it. No, he didn't know it though.
We cut to Mr. Sawara telling Kyo-go that another producer wants to work with her on
Show's promotion. Kyo-go flat out refuses and Sawara is confused because she wants to meet him,
right? He thinks that she wants to do that. But she refuses again and storms off.
She's venting to herself in the Love Me locker room when a dazed moco comes in.
She sits down and tells Kyo-go that she landed a gig in a made-for-TV drama because the director
saw her commercial. She commented that the director actually dropped the other actress that was slated
for the part. But she says that, and she feels kind of bad, but she says that she wants to be a
full-time actress. So I guess it's okay if she has to use others as a stepping stone until I get
there, which it feels a little harsh. I mean, it's not really your fault that that happened.
She doesn't say she feels bad at all. She's like, I don't feel guilty one bit.
Well, she says like, I feel a little bad, but I guess if I want this, I don't feel guilty.
Yeah, I know. Kyo-go calls it cut throat. I'm like, okay. It's a weird thing to say that because
it's like, it's definitely not your fault at all. Like somebody else made that decision.
But whatever, Kyo-go hears this and thinks that show is using her as a stepping stone and decides
that she isn't going to take that lying down. She decides to do the promo and use him as a stepping
stone for her career. She tells Mr. Sawara that she'll do the shoot, and he's like, ah, so she
did want to meet him after all. Cool. Elsewhere, Yashiro tells Ren that Kyo-go got a new gig,
apparently, and Ren's like, oh yeah, I didn't hear about that. And Yashiro's confused. Isn't like,
hey, didn't you two get close recently? Like, you don't talk regularly? And Ren's like, not really.
Yashiro's like, come on, man, I know that you're like, nice to her now. You don't have to like,
try to fool me. But Ren is incredulous. Yashiro tells him he needs to ask him about something later,
and then on the plane, Ren hopes that Kyo-go doesn't live too much of her life motivated by
revenge. He thinks it would be best that she didn't see show for a while so she can forget all about
him. Cut to, Kyo-go going to show his company with an aura of malice. They make her wait in
a conference room for so long that she gets pissed and decides to step out. But as she's about to go
for the door, it opens right in front of her. And we see none other than Shofu himself. There he is.
She definitely saw him immediately.
It's a good cut.
Shit.
Yeah, it's a good cut because those are like, those two scenes are interspersed where like,
Ren is like, I hope she doesn't see him so she can forget about him. And then she opens the door
and he's right there. We get a cut of Kyo-go's inner counsel of Kyo-go Ghost slash demons that control her thoughts.
They decide that the best course of action is to pretend to be someone else so he won't cancel the shoot because he's like, well, if he figures out it's like the old me,
he'll probably just like cancel it and it'll ruin my opportunity to get a leg up. She ekes out a smile and gives him a hard playful slap.
She asks to shake his hand and show his shocks because Kyo-go would never act like that. Kyo-go keeps up an overly expressive
girly persona as show begins to doubt if this Kyo-go is the same as the one he knew.
She starts aggressively flirting with him, but mostly just kind of like so she could shove him down.
She's annoyed that she has to do this. She's like, I'm just acting like one of the girls in my class.
Yeah, she calls him by the name Bu-Wichi.
Yes. She's like, God, it sucks having to do this with this guy.
Show's producer shows up and we learn that he calls her Milky, which is a disgusting nickname.
I hate show.
It's disgusting.
It's terrible. Also because she has huge boobs.
Yeah.
What did they say? F-Hop? That's pretty big, I guess.
Yeah, she apologizes to Kyo-go for the weight and we learn that her name is Haruki Asami.
Kyo-go was shocked to learn that show's producer has been a woman this whole time because she's like,
Oh, I always looked up the stuff like when he was, you know, doing things and I always assumed it was a guy because I guess the name Asami is masculine.
She looks her up and down and notices that she's a total babe with an F-sized cut or the F-cup size and great legs and comments that she is like the perfect woman.
Show tells Asami that he brought Kyo-go and Asami starts to fill her in and then he, or like, you know, they can fill her in essentially.
And then he starts like pretty aggressively flirting with Asami.
Kyo-go is like, what the hell is happening as he puts his hands on her hips and tries to peck her on the cheek, but she like pushes him away.
Yeah, because she's like, what happened to your manager? Like, weren't you seeing her?
Yeah, yeah. It took me a while to remember that like, oh, this isn't the same person as the manager. This is a different person.
This is wild. You're like a whole ass adult, Asami. What are you doing?
I think, okay. I think it's just, he's like a petulant child who wants to hit on everyone.
So they just tolerate him because, you know, they don't have him a bad move when he has to like go and perform and stuff.
I don't think they're like actually intimate with him. I feel like they're just humoring him.
No, I mean, she pushes him away. It's one of two horrifying things, right?
Yeah.
Number one, it's either this where it's just like, oh, you know, he's just like a harmless little kid, like whatever, we'll just like go along with it.
It's kind of cute, you know, that kind of thing because I don't seem mad about it, right?
Which is bad for obvious reasons. The alternative is that this is being a woman in the entertainment industry just means you get constantly harassed by every guy.
So you just have to put up with this shit all the time. And so you're just so like numb to it now that like, yeah, I guess, I guess the like Starwood put your hand, his hand on your hip.
And I guess you just have to grin and bear it, which is terrible.
I have a correction. Okay, I just grabbed the manga volume that this happens in. So we're at volume seven.
He calls her miruki as the nickname. And I think her rookie is the first name that sounds like a man.
And I don't know why you changed it to that, but it's not milky in the freaking manga.
What's wrong with these people? I feel like he is how you would say milky, though.
Is it?
Oh, let me see.
So not or let's let's go look. Oh, dear. Believe it or not, this is not a thing that people say very often.
What is it?
Okay, so you say milky way as Miruki way.
Oh, yeah. It's the same. It's phonetically the same. Okay.
Which does definitely make it seems like he's talking about her boobs because f f cup size, which like, holy shit.
You got special order those babies. You can't go to the Victoria's Secret and get them.
Yeah, she's got to be doing some some lats, lat exercises to get that to me.
You haven't back not some people are just cursed. Okay. And it sucks. Everybody wants that they don't have.
So I'm sure she's like, yeah. Yeah, that has to be really heavy. But you know, whatever.
If you get the right bra, I guess it's fine.
Anyways, Kyoko is days.
Cup size by site Kyoko. She like immediately instantly does. She's a little insecure.
Dude, maybe she's just into maybe she's just into a song. She's like, oh, she's the perfect woman.
Yeah. Yeah, her shirt is heinous, but she is pretty.
The outfit is bad. Yeah, it's which, you know, is fine because you're the producer.
So who cares what your outfit is?
Let's see. Kyoko is days by the revelation that show has been palling around with hot older women while she was being his damn housekeeper the whole time.
She has renewed anger and has to hide it for now.
They go to the meeting room and we meet fellow actress, Mimori Nanokura, who is also going to be in the video.
She is into show and suspicious of Kyoko. Yeah, something to say.
Yeah. And the manga, she freaking goes to the same school as Kyoko and they kind of know each other.
And she almost like, as she's like, oh, what are you, what the hell are you doing here Kyoko?
And then Mou and then Kyoko covers her mouth before she can say her last name.
She doesn't want to or show to find out. So wild that they just, I mean, I guess it still makes sense without that knowledge, but she kind of pesters her.
She's one of the girls kind of need to her at school. Yeah, that makes sense.
We don't really get anything about the school life.
Yeah, they all sit down and discuss the promo. A zombie gives an outline of the shoot, which is going to be a fantasy setting about a devil boy and two pure hearted angels.
The devil boy has never been in love before, but falls in love with one of the angels immediately. Love it for a sight.
However, their love is forbidden because it will destroy them both. What?
Devil boy sounds silly. Devil. Well, this whole thing is ridiculous.
The other angel discovers this, that they fell in love and then tries to kill the devil upon hearing this premise.
Kyoko enthusiastically and volunteers to be the one that tries to kill the devil.
She's like, I have been, I want to do this. And a zombie is like, oh, great.
Like, because that's how I wanted to cast it. But I was worried you like wouldn't want to be the antagonist.
And Kyoko says that she spent every waking hour wishing she could kill a devil.
This exact devil.
Yes, this exact devil. Don't worry about the context. Don't worry about my enthusiasm.
It's just because I love the premise so much.
Kyoko goes to the bathroom and tries to physically wash her hands of Shofu being like, I had to shake his hand earlier.
She decides how she's going to try to like play this off as like, I have to, I like, I hate this guy, but I can't hate this guy too much because I have to pretend to be a different Kyoko.
She's walking back to the room and she overhears me Marie talking shit about Ren show because show is still going on.
Because show is still insecure about Ren being a hotter guy than him.
Kyoko realizes that the way memory is comforting him is the way that she used to comfort him back in the day.
So she's like, oh, Jesus Christ, this woman is just like me. How I was. Oh, no.
The ghost of Kyoko's past.
The ghost of Kyoko. This is who she was haunting her.
They get served lunch, but memory has made show a lunch instead of him getting one from like whatever catering place they got it from.
He's annoyed and ungrateful.
Back to that last scene. She's like, oh, she's just like me. And then she's like, oh, never mind. She's got huge boobs. She's fine.
She won't suffer the same fate as me.
And sorry, the bento.
Yeah, she prepared a lunch for him. He's annoyed and ungrateful, but it's like, I guess I'll eat it anyway. Kyoko is depressed having to watch another girl get treated like shit by show.
No, this isn't where it happens. He takes a bite of the prepared lunch, but doesn't like it and is about to spit it out.
And Kyoko thinks that memory must have put her heart and soul into making that so he can't like spit it out.
You can't refuse this. So she slides him a packet of salt.
She'll seize this and stares at her as we cut the credits.
Cool. But also, girl, you're giving it away.
Giving it away. I mean, because I guess there's it's an egg omelet.
I guess some people make it salty and some make it sweet, which sweet sounds disgusting to me.
It sounds gross.
Eggs should be salty. Yeah.
Yep. So here they are together. She has to pretend to be different.
No, I'm but I'm in Mori.
She's a little more. He has a nickname. Yeah, he doesn't.
That's what I was like. Does it happen here? No, it happens the next episode where he does that.
His cut she goes to Ellen that she brings up rent. Yeah, that terrible fake horrible bore.
Yeah. Yes, there's not that much substance to his personality.
It's true. He's a robot man.
A little bit.
All right. I think she's going to the next one.
Now at the final episode of Ivy League, after a couple of episodes of Libert�eds are pre masses live on deleven.
What about me?
One of the first episodes I saw only two seasons ago will reveal in this stream because
He's got the little like, yeah, he's got the little chain coming from your fingers down
to like the thing on the back of your hand.
I don't know what that thing's called.
Like a gauntlet kind of.
It's way over the top.
Show keeps debating if it's really her or not.
Then he spies a perfume, a perfume bottle in the shape of a swan that he remembers
Kyoko wanting so badly not that long ago that she even gave it her own little nickname.
He thinks that he will use this to expose her as the OP plays.
We cut to the women's dressing room.
Kyoko is freaking out because she thinks she might have given herself away when she slid
him that packet of salt last episode.
We see me morey getting her makeup applied and Kyoko is into it.
She's like, hell yeah, makeup.
Yeah.
All right.
She says she can't wait until she gets hers in memory and the makeup artist think that's
weird.
Like you're too excited about this show.
And a saw me burst in in memory.
Fonz over shows demon elf look.
Kyoko is also shocked and show like walks over to her and is like, ooh, I saw you looking
at me.
You must really love fairy tale elf stories, huh?
And Kyoko's like, no.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't love elf fairy tale stories, but she'll keep pressing the issue, pinning her
to the wall and asking her to call her show like she used to.
And she was like, I don't know what you're talking about.
But before he can keep going, memory steps in between them and separates them.
She's like, what's going on with you two?
This is where Ren calls memory.
Poetry or poetry.
Poetry, Poetry, Poetry.
I think it's which is we get a note that says that's a dog's name.
He's calling her a dog's name.
Yeah.
And she likes it, I guess.
Kyoko is like, thank God that's over with when show pulls out the perfume and says
loudly to himself.
Oh, hey, look at this weird cosmetic I found.
Man, if only I could remember what it's called.
What's it called again?
Oh, yeah.
It's called.
And then he and Kyoko both say the name Royal Odette at the same time, which is the nickname
Kyoko gave it, not the actual name.
And Kyoko is still like in love with this product.
Everyone else in the room like looks kind of weird and memories like why did you guys
call it that?
It's called Royal Snow.
Like what are you all talking about?
And Kyoko realizes that she just said the name that she personally called it, not the
actual name and looks at show who smirks because now he's confirmed that it's actually
her.
I can't believe she gets she is owned so hard here.
Yeah, what is this?
Is this perfume?
I can't tell what this is.
Yeah, it's a perfume just shaped in a swan, which Odette is the name of the swan princess.
Oh, OK.
That makes sense.
Yeah, that's a good.
Well, the guy is annoying in that movie, but it's a good Disney movie.
I think it's Disney.
No, it's not.
OK, it's not.
It's good.
The guy is dumb, though.
But yeah, so, you know, she gets like a little in her head and like fantasizing whenever she
sees anything cute, kind of how she was just like drooling, watching the memory, getting
her makeup done.
Just that's her weakness is all these cosmetic things.
And so she just dreams about it since she can't actually have them normally.
And he knows that because he does know that they did live together.
So just like she knows his weaknesses, he knows hers.
He was paying enough attention to realize this would work.
We cut to Yashiro and Ren and Yashiro is like, you didn't seriously confuse the stamps last
episode, right?
You're just being mean to her.
And Ren says that he won't give her 100 points just to satisfy her ego.
And Yashiro is like, oh, I get it.
You know, I'm not going to be able to do that.
And Yashiro is like, oh, I get it.
You took off 10 points when she implied that she was just doing like the work for herself.
Like she thought it was part of her job and not that she was like, especially taking care
of you.
And Ren's like, uh, yeah, I guess so.
And Yashiro is like, I get it, man.
Like obviously she was just doing that stuff because it's her job.
But I guess it's still surprising coming from somebody you like that, like, you know, they
were just doing that because of their job.
And Ren's like, what do you mean?
I don't like her.
Like, yeah, sure.
I don't hate her anymore.
But actually I just subtracted those points on principle so that the love me section can
work out the way that president Lori described.
And Yashiro was like, what are you talking about?
I see the way you look at her.
You're so on one right now.
I know for Yashiro, he like sees everything and has to like sit with the information by
himself.
So Yashiro is the most like, dude, you could just be normal about this.
Like it's not that big of a deal.
Yes.
Because he like speculates on a rents pass because Ryan doesn't open up.
So he's like, oh, you were like up to no good as a kid, weren't you?
You were like a little punk back in your day, right?
So you just have to like come up with all these scenarios.
Like, thanks might be rent because rent will not tell him anything about himself.
Do you think being rents manager would suck kind of like I'm sure, you know, he does everything.
He's good at everything.
But then it's like the guy never talks about anything.
He never fucking eats.
It never takes care of itself.
It must be like kind of annoying.
Probably have no vacation days.
Rent certainly not taking a vacation.
So that's true.
Hopefully he's getting paid pretty well though.
I don't know.
You think me and just get paid though?
I think they get like a cut of what the client makes right and rents probably make a pretty
good money.
Oh yeah, that's true.
That's true.
Anyway, let's see.
We cut back to shows promo shoot.
The memory asks show what the relationship with Koko or what his relationship with Koko
is and we get a flashback where Koko asks him if she's going to fire her if he's going
to fire her when he realizes that it's her.
And he says no, she can't hurt him anyway.
So like do your best to see if you can really get revenge on me, huh?
Like he's daring her to back in the present.
He tells me more that Koko is his enemy and she's like, what?
Coco walks out in costume, which consists of like a like a fantasy flowy, like long floor
length dress and like this enormous blonde wig.
It's huge.
Yes.
It is wild.
She looks so pretty.
She does look pretty.
She's got like makeup done and stuff like that.
I mean, she's supposed to be an angel.
I don't know if I get like an angel.
Yeah, yeah.
She got well, they don't really say it explicitly.
I don't know if they will name me at all, but they're they're angels.
So the her her rookie, she said, will add the the wings and CGI after we shoot everything.
So they're just not wearing wings now, but there will be in the final thing.
Yeah.
Smoking hot.
Yeah, look at looking good.
Show is stunned that she looks so good and is in disbelief and it's really Koko.
She curtsies to him and then kicks the shit out of him.
Then she grabs him by the collar and is like, never thought I could be like this, huh?
Newsflash, the nice innocent girl you knew was gone.
I'm going to make you wish you were dead.
A saw me walks over and is like, what's the deal with you two?
Show says that they used to be childhood friends, but she's different now and like show still
in disbelief over how she's acting shows manager who up to this point, I'd forgotten about
her name, Shoko, is like, I can't believe that was the same girl we saw on episode one.
They all walk on set.
Memorial is upset because she can't be and she can't be friends with Koko because she
hates show.
She's like, I hate this chick.
This chick sucks.
How am I supposed to pretend to be like sisters with her or whatever for this shoot?
And show is like, yeah, you know, it is kind of weird how all the other girls always hate
you, Koko.
And Koko snaps back that it's his fault because he was overly friendly with her all through
like their childhood and the other girls were jealous of that.
She couldn't make any friends with any girls and shows like, wait, really?
And Koko's like, yeah, dude, Memorial gets frustrated and is like, I need you two to
stop arguing over stuff.
I don't understand what you're talking about.
FOMO FOMO.
Asami Koko and the other like some other staff member meets backstage.
Asami explains that the shoot doesn't have any dialogue.
So they're all supposed to like act through a moating on their faces because like, you
know, it's a music video.
So the music is going to play in the background.
But since Memorial hates Koko now, that'll make things kind of hard.
The staff member apologizes to Koko and Koko is like, it's cool.
We'll just like deal with it.
Like, you know, I can I can pretend that we're friends.
It's I'm an actor.
She thinks that she needs the shoot to go well or her revenge won't work out because it has
to be a stepping stone for her career.
Nearby, show explains to Memorial that him and Koko are over, but Memorial comments that
he keeps looking at her.
Why does he keep looking at her?
We got a montage of the shoot with shows music playing over it.
And I kind of like his music.
I kind of like the song.
Yeah, I'm sure like shows like any anime based off a star.
It's probably someone like an actual artist using it as like their own stepping stone
to get a little famous by having their stuff in the anime.
Oh, sure.
It's like it's like a visual kind of.
I think how crazy he dresses in stuff in the montage.
We see show having difficulty not staring at Koko.
He thinks about how hard he tried to deny that he was staring at Koko to Memorial, but
he couldn't seem to even do that very well.
So he walks up and is like, show, you need to pay attention to Koko.
You see how good she is at acting like she can act all playful with Memorial, even though
10 minutes ago, she told her that she hated her.
That's because she takes the job seriously, just like you need to do for these scenes.
The upcoming scene is where Koko kills show is about to be shot.
Show thinks about Koko and we get a momentary flashback where after the scene with Memorial,
he tells Koko that he's surprised that she can act.
And she says that she wouldn't have even gotten into it if he hadn't dumped her.
And Asami wonders what that could mean.
Memorial asks Koko what that means.
She's like, did you two go out and Koko is like, oh, dude, I don't have time to explain
this to you, but like the relationship was bad.
It's not good in the way you're probably thinking in the hallway show and show.
Go are walking.
Shoko comments that he can't or he didn't say that Koko was like his maid at the time
and show was like, yeah, I couldn't bring myself to like say that out loud to everybody.
Um, Shoko is like, oh, I bet you're feeling guilty about that, huh?
And he says no, because in his mind, she still belongs to him.
So he has every right to do whatever he wants to her.
And then he walks off and Choko thinks that that's a terrible thing to say, but then wonders
what will happen if he actually starts to fall in love with her the way she is now.
Just sucks.
Yeah, he does own this woman for some reason.
Yeah.
It's just a little shit.
And I guess Shoko just doesn't.
It's just like, well, that's just fully aware that he is, but she is his manager.
So it's just her job.
Another job.
Just get a new client.
The show isn't that good, right?
Well, he probably is making a lot of money.
So if she does it like you said, then maybe it's worth it.
I don't know.
He is quite, I feel like he would be in so many scandals, like how he behaves.
Oh yeah.
You know, he didn't cancel nowadays.
Yeah.
He'd be getting canceled and then he'd have to come back and get a Netflix special about
how he got canceled.
And it would be so annoying.
Yeah.
Let's see.
The murder scene starts.
Kyoko's got a choke show and throw him off a tower.
Kyoko is super pumped for the scene and show thinks that she's being so defiant like she
actually does want to devour him because I guess he's like kind of into this now.
He's getting like a weird psychosexual vibe coming from this guy.
What?
Being like the girl I own is being so defiant against me now.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Uh.
He thinks that she's gotten too good too fast and he needs to prove that he's
better.
The scene rehearsal starts and Kyoko just immediately starts choking the shit out of
show.
The zombies like, stop, stop.
You're choking it for real.
You need to not do that.
Kyoko apologizes to Asami, but asks if her character is supposed to like turn into a
devil at the end.
So like, shouldn't she be choking him with like, vigor, like with some malice?
And Asami is like, well, she becomes a devil after she kills him.
So like, you need to still be an angel while you're choking him.
So you need to choke him angelically.
Kyoko is like, all right, I'll just try to think angel thoughts.
They try to shot again.
She's choking him less hard, but still for real and still clearly angry.
So Asami calls cut.
She tells Kyoko that she needs to think about being an angel like she did in the previous
scene with Mamori when they were like hanging out as like, you know, sisters.
Kyoko thinks to herself that she could act in the Mori scene because she was imagining
Mamori as Moko, her actual friend, but it's not going to work for this because she doesn't
have any analog for show other than show.
A guy she hates.
Yeah.
She's wondering what she should do as they take a break and show walks over to taunt her.
He's like, oh, for all that talk, this is the best you can do, huh?
You can't even choke me properly.
So I guess give me your best performance as we cut to credits.
Yeah, that would be so annoying, right?
Using her words against him.
Dude, he wants to get choked by her properly.
I'm telling you, this is like some psychosexual thing.
Don't you like this late?
Oh, my property is so defiant of me.
She's defying me so much and she's going to choke me.
I think he wants to get dominated, you know?
I feel like.
OK, I don't know.
This is a show, Joe, but I can't be the thing.
I can't be.
Oh, come on.
You can have a little fun.
Oh, OK.
This was written by an adult.
He's calling his his producer, Milky.
I hate it.
He's like sitting on his manager's lap.
Yeah, that's bad.
You know, yeah, I don't know.
I think he'll be like even if he he's going to be so in denial about
being like, oh, yeah, he'll go hot now or anything like that
because he did throw her away.
So now he can't admit that she maybe it was a bad idea to throw away
because he didn't know that she was a hidden gem.
So he's got to like continue to disparage her to justify the loss of her, I guess.
Yeah.
I don't I don't know about that.
Whatever.
How he's kind of into it.
Well, even his manager is like, damn, what if you what if he falls in love
with her when she's like this because he seems to be kind of into it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
As he is.
Well, that's not happening, dude.
Freaking hate.
I know she hates you.
She literally just tried to kill you twice.
Yeah. Oh, man.
Yep. Good episodes.
I like that we get the explicit thing where she says in an episode ago
that she's trying that she's doing acting because she's trying to recreate herself
outside of everybody else's expectations. That's good.
That's the character motivation I wanted this whole time.
And I got it.
Episode 1817.
I continue to get everything I want.
Well,
it is at the moment 50 volume manga.
So like there's a lot.
Oh, you said we're in volume seven.
Yeah. Oh, my God.
So, yeah, lots.
Lot. I mean, I don't know.
Yeah. So naturally, the we're going slowly get progress
because this is simply the beginning of the show.
I guess it's mostly just establishing why she's doing it, her motivations,
making some friends along the way, starting to get gigs.
But I mean, I think this is good.
Like her sense seems pretty reasonable.
Like it's not just like it's happening quite quickly.
It is six months.
Yeah. But it's like these are smaller things.
You know what I mean?
I guess maybe the Japanese industry is just more like approachable or like
they're not as well.
This is also before freaking influencers and stuff.
But maybe they were more or there's more.
There's less competition.
Maybe it's a smaller industry there.
I mean, yeah, maybe.
I mean, I think this is more of like this is because it's a story
and we need to start moving a little bit.
But you know, yeah.
It's not like unreasonable, you know what I mean?
Like, you know, it could have been it could have been more unrealistic
in the jump to things.
We're moving in pretty good progress.
I feel like everything makes sense up to this point.
Mm hmm. I like that.
Again, her being genuine, the fact that she gives 110 percent of everything
and we do see her focusing on the aspects of like her work that, you know,
shows that she's taking it seriously and also like demonstrates why she would
be good at stuff when she's like, oh, I was like picturing Moko as like
the person I was acting with.
Like that scene to work.
You know what I mean?
Like she's just doing stuff on her own kind of or, you know, without telling us,
which I think is good. Yeah.
So what do you think's going to happen now?
She's in this dilemma of wanting to murder.
Oh, she's going to figure it out.
She's going to figure out how to act like an angel.
She's probably going to be like, I just need to act like stoic like Ren does
and then figure it out.
Hmm. I think she's just I don't think she's going to like pull anything out
of a hat here. Like, you know, most of the time we see her like when things
like back against the wall, she like pulls out some interesting thing to do.
I think she'll just I think she'll just do the job at this point.
You know what I mean?
Yeah. There's not going to be a trick to this.
She's just going to have to do it.
Yeah. Let's see. Anything else?
I mean, is Ren going to go back to being mean to her just because
Yashura pointed it out again?
Yeah. I mean, the red stuff is interesting because I like, you know,
he's the love interest of the story, clearly, right?
But there and I guess part of this is like we're only adapting maybe like the first,
you know, eight or nine volumes.
But we are slow walking a little bit,
which I like because it makes it a little bit more realistic that this would happen
because again, you know, like in the first episode where they're like hanging out,
she's kind of taken care of in that kind of stuff that all seems pretty reasonable.
It doesn't seem like anybody is just like immediately falling in love with anybody else.
It doesn't even seem like she is thinking about him that way.
Even though it's not at all. Yeah.
When he said I get why the.
Well, I mean, this is this is what having a backstory,
but like having the me childhood friends or whatever does for you is like he can be
nostalgic about that, which kind of dovetails into it.
Right. So I get the move before I was like, I don't know what this gets you.
This is what it gets you. Yeah. So it's fine.
Well, yeah, I mean, because it's it's already been six months and we're only in
volume or it's only been six months, but we're already in volume seven and we have 50 volume.
So she will get older at some point.
So we don't know when they if they if they when they get together.
So maybe she will be like appropriate age at that time.
Maybe hopefully. Yeah, I don't know.
Well, we won't see you're on the podcast, sadly.
Yeah, I don't think we're going to get that in the final seven episodes of the show.
No. What? How do you think the show is going to end?
Uh, like, do you think they're going to end it as if it was continuing or try to end it?
Like, wrap, wrap up Blue Sands in the single season, knowing that they got canceled
or they like stopped being a company like mere months after this came out?
I don't I don't know. I mean, I guess it just kind of depends.
I think they're going to do a thing that like could be kind of like how
Kimi dates it OK, like every season kind of ended at a place where it's like,
well, this could be the end, even though like clearly it goes forward.
Yeah, because some of these shows are also just like, hey, you should go read
the source material that keeps going.
Yeah, I mean, this one clearly has like a like a goal that's supposed to be achieved,
which is like be bigger than show and show business.
So it's not as like vague in what the direction this takes is.
Yeah, it does kind of be more famous than him and has to do stuff to get to that point.
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, there is always the off ramp of she can decide that she's doing this
for herself and just drop the revenge thing at any point in time.
So I do feel like there is the the option for an off ramp of being like,
oh, you can always just like pivot from that.
Do the thing that Ren is saying where it's like, oh, I'm doing stuff for me
and not for revenge or whatever.
And that's kind of like how you would end at any point.
How would you want it to be like angry Kyoko?
Oh, no, I like it.
I'm just saying like mechanistically, that's the way you could do that.
I think it's better that she's mad.
I think it's better that she's fueled by spite.
I like angry Kyoko. Yeah, me too.
I have fully zero understanding of what the love me section is for anymore.
I know.
I feel like it kind of matter.
That has no stakes for me anymore.
You know what I mean?
Like that part has kind of fallen off.
Yeah, I know.
I feel like it should be.
Well, I mean, because anything love me would be like very temporary.
So it would be annoying if there's these constant like tiny things
taking us away from like the action of what's actually happening.
But I don't know, maybe they reference it more or well, I mean,
like it seems like the the thing she needs to learn is to do
some vague thing about being lovable, right?
And that kind of fits into this where it's like you have to pretend
like you have to act like you are going to be in love with somebody
at a certain point in time, convincingly, right?
You know, this scene is kind of a little bit different where you have to act
angelic and like on the behalf of your because you don't want your sister
to die. So you're like doing that kind of thing.
That's a little bit different.
Yeah. And, you know, but like in terms of the love me stakes of like,
she needs the stamps to get approval.
She needs the she needs to like learn a lesson about like what it means to
love something and want to be loved.
Those stakes don't really feel like it has a lot of meaning for me at the moment.
Like that aspect of the love me section, like the premise of it,
it has no real impact on me at the moment.
At least I'm still like who cares?
That logo is like the like when she did the cooking and messed it up and is
like, oh, we can't show this is so bad.
But you just stuck the logo on top of the frying pan to hide the contents of it.
Yeah, I think like the aesthetics are good.
Like I like the jumpsuits.
I like the logo.
I'm just saying that like the stakes of that of like, is she going to be
let into LMI and like, is she going to pass through the love me section or not?
That is not like those are not stakes I'm thinking about or like are very invested in.
Are you going to sew us our own love me?
I got to sew it.
I mean, I guess I just got to get like a patch, right?
You just got to sew on a patch.
That should be pretty easy.
I bet somebody's done that.
Yeah.
Yeah, let me see.
Just probably heinous jumpsuits online already.
I got the patch that I have off Etsy.
It's very possible.
This seems possible to me.
I have people make these.
Yeah, yeah.
We can even get an ironed on it.
I have to sew anything.
Yeah, when we get our cosplay debut as a podcast.
Yeah.
And we're guest panelists at a convention.
Uh huh.
Yeah.
Anyway, we're still going strong from here.
We're going to have three more episodes because, you know, I said there are seven
episodes, we're covering three at a time.
Obviously three does not go into seven.
So I think we're going to do three episodes next time and then two and two.
Yeah.
And then we will be finished with Skipbeat.
Yep.
So look forward to that.
But next time it's going to be three more episodes.
So we'll be doing 19, 20 and 21.
Oh, it's almost over.
Um, it is almost over.
Yeah.
We'll have to once we do our final episode on this kind of do the same like ranking.
We should have like favorite protagonists.
Like if it like does Kyoko replace?
Whoever.
Oh, yeah.
Obviously is number one.
She's the best.
Um, but yeah, rank all the stuff.
Rank love interest, rank, um, school uniforms, Kyoko losing that category.
Uh, well, actually the ones in Angelic layer are bizarre.
Um, yeah.
Fun stuff like that.
So look forward to it.
And, um, now we're going to do where we each recommend to do the
final episode on an online level.
So we're going to have to think about, if you have something that you
recommend, something.
That if you, you know, obviously if you enjoy this podcast in similar
interests to us that likely you'll enjoy our recommendations here.
And, uh, Jody having thing prepared.
No.
Me neither.
Well, I'm a fight.
It'll frame is a video game from 2001.
anything I have, I don't think I have anything.
In doubt, I go to a webtoon and just look at like,
what have I been reading recently?
Let's do, hold on, I'm about to say this.
Oh God.
I bought the Blue Rays for Fire Force.
I do like Fire Force despite the fan service character.
Well, because we like Soul Eater.
I do like Soul Eater.
Soul Eater also did that where it's like you have the
Blare who is like the fan service character here.
And this one, I like Tomahki.
It sucks that she gets treated this way.
Fire Force is a cool show.
I'll just recommend that.
Sure. Why not?
Let's see.
Do it.
Fire Force is an anime that is an adaptation of a manga.
The anime came out in, let me look it up online.
It came out in 2019.
It takes place in a fictional world where there are pyro
kinetics.
There are people with pyro kinetic abilities that come in
different generations.
So generation zero.
So in this world, people will randomly spontaneously combust
and become like fire monsters that will attack other people.
Those are called generation one.
Generation two are people that can control fire like telekinetically
like they're pyro kinetics.
And then generation three are people who can produce fire from
their bodies and basically everybody in the show has like
different fire based superpowers, more or less.
And they all wear these very cool like fire fighter suits.
Okay.
I don't like them.
You don't like the suits.
They look different.
None one.
What the heck?
And then there's also a none because a big part of this this
universe takes place of the church of the soul, which is like
the Catholic church of this world that is powerful and is also
around, you know, giving thanks to the sun god because it's all
about fire and sun.
It's very interesting.
There is a lot of intrigue.
The story follows a new recruit named Shinra Kusakabe, who's
a third generation pyro kinetic who shoots fire from his feet
to fly around.
So he's like an Iron Man flying around.
I mean, that's all I can do.
So he can ignite his feet as well and his ostracize as a child
for the fire that killed his mother and younger brother show
12 years ago.
I'm just reading from the Wikipedia now.
He joins fire or fire force company eight, which features
other pyrokinetics who dedicate themselves to ending infernal
attacks for good while investigating companies one
through seven for potential corruption within their ranks.
So it is one part in investigation of like there is some sketchy
stuff going on with corruption in terms of like there are some
secret societies.
There are some people withholding some information.
Each of these other companies is like associated with something.
So like company one is associated with the church.
Company like seven is like a research institute.
So like they all have a little gimmick to them.
Number two is the military Shinra begins to learn that fire
that killed his mother was a cover for show being taken by
the white clad a doomsday cult behind the internal attacks
with agents within the facet of the Tokyo Empire.
So conspiracy.
They also have to just sometimes, you know, save people from
the pirate air like the infernals, which are like the people
that turn into fire guys.
I like it quite a bit.
I think it takes everything.
You know, the world building is pretty good.
I think they take the way they handle religion is pretty nice
in that they, you know, it's both the Catholic Church is evil,
which like, you know, always love a story where the Catholic
Church is.
But also like takes seriously, you know, the faith of the people
that are in it, right?
So it's not even like, oh, well, you're just dumb for thinking
this thing.
It's like, you know, this has utility for believing the stuff.
You can believe things outside of the shortcomings of the,
you know, organization around it.
So even though the church of soul may not be, you know,
maybe corrupted, you can still have like a religious faith.
That means something to you.
So I think it's treated pretty well.
I guess disclaimers for this show as a character named Tamaki
who I like.
She's like, she ends up being a fan service thing.
It's not great.
It's pretty bad.
I don't like it.
The characters in the show don't like it.
She is a catfire lady.
I think her power is cool.
I wish she got more to do.
They're going to have a new season soon.
Hopefully she'll have more to do, but I, you know, a dog by
that.
Like a freaking bikini top and just falls off all the time.
Right?
Yes.
Thank you.
It's very tacky.
I think it's bad.
Most of the other fans I see online also think of the
thing as bad.
So I don't know why this is happening, but it is.
That's one disclaimer.
The other disclaimer is that there's some localization stuff
where there's a couple of black characters.
They get called some stuff that is not the greatest of all
times.
I wouldn't have localized it that way, but they did.
So I mean, they're drawn well.
Like the thing is like they have a couple of black characters
that are drawn like well, which is not a given an anime
because anime can be kind of racist against dark skinned
people in the way they talk about.
You can look at Mr. Popo from Dragon Ball Z.
If you want to an example of bad drawings, these guys are
drawn cool and like, you know, they look pretty cool, but
yeah, some of the stuff they say should take another pass
at that.
Oh, like say you're tight.
Okay.
They call one of the black characters are like a gorilla
over and over again, which like, you know, like the power
that has the connotation in Japanese won't know he's like
a because he's like a super strong guy.
He's like an endurance guy like he takes hits and then he
gets dishes them back out, which is like very cool.
He's a very cool character, but they keep calling him that
and I'm like, man, you should do that in the localization.
Come on.
You know, yeah, the people localizing should know better.
Yeah, but it's one of those things where like this character
is cool.
You guys should pay attention to what you're doing and what
you're saying and what you're writing because otherwise, you
know, it's not that bad.
They have another black character who's also very cool.
He'd like right skateboard around in his life.
Yeah, I think that's the one I remember.
Yeah, he's cool.
I don't think I don't think anything sketchy happens with
him.
But again, you know, stuff like that where it's like almost
nailed it almost had it, but you just got to include this
stuff.
Anyway, I like Fire Force quite a bit.
Otherwise I wouldn't give so many disclaimers for it.
This is how I describe things I like.
The opening is pretty good.
I like the uniforms.
I like the fire powers.
It's a show that like cares about the side characters.
It's not going to be like
Jujutsu Kaisen where it's like, oh, look, there's all these
side characters and then they just get like owned.
And that's the last time you ever see them.
The show actually cares about his side characters.
And that makes it fun.
Unlike freaking Star Wars.
The Hackeleit.
Yeah, Hackeleit.
We're just becoming a different show.
Halfway through.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Okay, I am going to recommend a dating sim.
So probably a lot of gals and guys who enjoy show Joe play
visual novel dating sims.
This one is a Korean one, which there aren't that many that
have been translated officially to English that are Korean
made, but this is a by the developer called Sherrods.
And they have made this game.
It's called the end of land wishes brought to you.
And it's the first one that they made that I played this came
out like my freshman year of college.
And it was pretty nice because at that time it was mostly
a lot of shitty like phone games that weren't as good
quality before we were getting a ton of them.
Like now several of them are in the game.
Now several good ones come out every year, but before it was
like the same one would just get reported to like the new
consoles and it was really annoying.
But this one is a PC game and I'll just read the little all
those kind of bad description.
Actually, this is oh wait, no, here we go.
Okay.
Story.
He's young Kim moved out from her mom's house who is obsessed
with her education.
She tries to find her real.
I'm trying to find her real dream life.
Okay.
Maybe there's some weird translation.
Basically this chick is in college and she yeah, has like
a strange relationship.
Kind of like Kiyoko with her mom being like you better get
good grades or else I won't love you kind of thing.
And she happens upon like this basket of little animals and
she decides to take them home with her and it turns out
they're not animals that they're I'm going to replay this.
It's like, but basically they're hot dudes and like from a
different realm or whatever and it's kind of like a life
sim like where you have stats.
You have to maintain stuff as well and you can like fail the
story if you haven't raised certain steps to get to certain
like plot lines.
But like it's gorgeous and the they have an opening for it
and that's really good as well.
And they have a couple other games nameless which I don't
like the art style as much and then they have the most popular
thing they've made is a Christ.
What is that name?
That's a game mystic messenger which is a phone game and
basically it's like you have all these characters as if they're
contacting you on your phone where you get like notifications
that they've sent you a message and blah blah blah and the
story unfolds under that kind of presentation and they even
have a female character you can romance in that one.
So there's a little bit of Yuri for you.
There's not very many or at least not that I am like that's
familiar with boys love or girls love ones but isn't as many
that are like officially translated of good quality.
So it's a little bit there but yeah, the underlying wishes
brought to you.
There's even a free demo on steam if you want to try that.
But yeah, it's really pretty.
It's really cute.
It's like cozy and heartwarming and I just remember it was
like a snow day when I first got it and my friends were like
hey come outside and let's hang out in the snow.
I was like oh I just got this new game I got to play.
So it's good enough to keep me from socializing not that that
takes very much I guess but yeah that's our recommendations
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Right.
Let's see.
Did we learn anything these episodes?
I don't know if we learned anything.
We can have hobbies.
Ren be a person outside of work listen work life balance.
Important have a work life balance.
Ren have a work life balance.
I don't care how big your boobs are.
Don't let people call you milky.
That's terrible.
I won't even say the word milky around you because it sounds
bad.
Yeah.
Where's the HR department for Queen Records man.
Yeah.
He's like you're older than him.
Put this kid in his place.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Supposed to respect your elders.
You should be owning this kid.
Come on.
It's a it's a child.
He's like a brat.
He's a six.
Don't let a 16 year old talk down to you.
He's 16.
What the fuck is he going to do?
Yeah.
He'll his lunch money.
Yeah.
So have hobbies also have hobbies.
Don't be like rent Saruga and just work.
Don't do something.
So it's a handmade lunch.
Don't spit it out right in front of them.
Yeah.
Unless like they it's poison in which case they poisoned you.
You should get that out.
You've been poisoned.
Hey.
All right.
You're giving out all the poison.
Bye.
Oh God.
Are we done?
Are we out?
Yeah.
We're done.