Welcome back to show Joe. I'm Sarah joined by my co-host and namesake of the podcast himself.
Joe.
Hello.
Hey, how are you doing? I'm freaking exhausted.
I don't know if you saw, but I got a new dog. We talked about me possibly getting one last weekend and then I just executed the plan immediately.
Okay. All right.
Yeah. Well, yeah, that's good. Right?
Yes. Yes, it is.
So she's like a lab pit mix and her name is Lemon. She's super cute.
I have my mom watching cricket since when I got like spayed the day I picked her up. So I just want to give her some time, some downtime before they kind of got to know each other.
She was the owner surrender.
Finally finished building this like split crate like furniture crate that the both of them can be in but separately. And turns out I think she has a bit of separation anxiety possibly or, you know, until we get like into a schedule where she learns that I go and come.
Hopefully she'll settle down. But you know that scene in Jurassic Park when the power goes out and then they go to the raptor enclosure and like the electric fence is like mangled.
Yeah.
So I had like I got home from work yesterday.
Oh my God.
And it was reminiscent of that.
Oh my God.
She she had like applied some of the little bars open and slipped out in as soon as I came home. She's at the door and I was like, Oh God.
So luckily I was able to kind of like put it back.
But yeah.
You just stronger enclosure.
Apparently like I'm muzzled.
We'll see if that helps.
I know.
My God, girl, because she's really freaking chill otherwise.
So I don't know.
This is my first time adopting a dog from a shelter with like an unknown history.
Because I guess like the basically there's like an animal services vehicle and the owners are like, Oh, hey, since you're here, will you take my two dogs to.
And didn't like providing background information, which normally owner surrender would because that like helps with adopting them out if we know like their history and if they live with other animals and stuff like that.
But yes, I mean, she yeah, she's super, super sweet.
She just wants to say hello to everyone, which is a new thing for me because normally I have the dogs that like, Oh, they look cute.
They don't want to be pet, you know, like they're going to just start yapping at you.
But she's just mute and like gentle.
So mostly it'll just be a matter of seeing how she settles with my other animals.
She's super into the cat and we'll see how she does with my shweeny cricket.
She can settle and be cool with them that we're all good.
I'll just figure out the whole Boston, you know, escapee situation.
But I think being in that crate because I was gone probably from like nine to three.
I think I don't know at what point in that time she escaped, but I think she got stressed by the whole thing.
So she's had like, I don't know if you know this, but dogs will like it.
They're the brows can be affected by stress.
So yeah, last night I woke up like every two hours because she like needed to evacuate urgently.
So I did not get very much sleep. I just kind of started my day at like five after going to bed at one and waking up at like two, 30.
And yeah, so I'm tired. How about you? How are you today?
Yeah, I'm OK today. You know, got up. I am like old now. I'm old.
Yeah, because you went to the brewery and now you're like, oh, damn.
I went to the brewery and I had like two beers and I'm like, damn, I'm sleepy.
Right? Yeah.
Oh, man.
Yeah, drink just isn't fun anymore, which sucks because now what is fun? Nothing is fun anymore.
Pets. Getting a new pet. Very exciting.
Other.
Yeah, but that's not going to help me not be tired.
Yeah.
Sounds like.
Um, just depends.
Right. So I'm fine, though. I'm not that tired. I'm actually OK.
I'm drinking coffee that is too hot, but I will be I will be good today.
This last week I watched a bunch of movies.
It's basically what I did.
I watched the first two Ghost in the Shell movies. So it's the original Ghost in the Shell movie.
And that was good. Those are rewatch for me, but that was really good.
You know, sometimes it's just like nice to watch a thing that you remember being good
and you like watch it and then you're like, oh, yeah, this is still good.
I really love.
Yes.
Love the moodiness of it. I love how it's all about like robots. You know, I love me some robots.
I just read that book that I think I recommended one time about like computer power, whatever.
So it's always fun to like revisit other things that I've talked about this and it's like, oh, yeah,
I really like this stuff.
Just probably just probably a reason I got a PhD in this.
Yes, that was good.
And then I watched the second movie, Innocence, for the first time.
And that was really interesting.
It came out like in 2002 or something.
So there's a lot of early 2000s CG in it.
Kind of the kind of thing you'd see in like a like a final fantasy for PlayStation 2 or something.
That kind of thing.
But it actually like the way that they did it works for me because the whole like every time they deploy it,
it's to create a sense of like alienation with like the place you're in where it's like you're in like some weird unfamiliar place.
And it like everything is a little bit off and that's when they used it.
And so it actually worked really well for me.
So I was talking to I was watching with my friend, Elvin the whole time I was like, yeah, it's weird how like this doesn't bother me at all.
But like, you know, like the new season of Demon Slayer or whatever where they keep like inserting it in weird places like bothers me a lot.
So I think it's because I was going to say I haven't watched the new season, but apparently it's bad or at least IGN says so.
Yeah, I mean, it's the same.
It's got the same problems that kind of always had.
The thing about Demon Slayer is that like I read the manga.
So I like know what happens and like they just it just runs out of juice.
It just runs out.
They just got nothing going on after.
I mean, but at least the manga is only like 26 volumes, at least it's not like going on for the rest of time.
Like some, you know, at least it ended.
Well, I don't think this could go on for the rest of time because it would tank because it feels like everybody's like interesting.
I don't really know.
Like I didn't even think the last season was like that bad compared to the other ones, but I didn't like the other ones that much.
I kind of thought they were all samey.
Well, I feel like maybe part of the problem is we're getting right like it sets it up where, oh, OK, there's the Hoshiro.
They're going to be bad ass and this and that.
And like some of them are getting the proper like introduction and time with these characters.
But like the Sword Smith Village art, like there's a couple, but we don't.
I feel like we don't necessarily get well, maybe with the Miss Guy, but the love Hoshiro.
I feel like we don't.
There's not much depth there.
So like even though it's a new season, it doesn't feel like we're getting that much new about these new characters, you know.
Yeah, I mean, it is increasingly just boss battles.
Like you're playing a video game.
Yeah, there's not really a boss battle for like an hour and a half.
Yeah.
Plot progression, just fighting.
And that's not what I think the strength of the show is, particularly the bosses who are about to die anyway.
So why do we?
That's always been many ways.
I have never liked even Slayer for doing that.
I also don't like the Hoshiro.
So I, you know, I don't really know what I'm watching it to be honest.
Because we have a podcast about anime and we got to we got to be somewhat.
Well, I don't think people are.
Yeah, I guess.
What else is current?
My hero academia, the manga is in its epilogue.
So that's.
Yeah, yeah.
Finally.
So that ending was also just a long boss battle.
That wasn't very good.
Oh, dear.
I mean, I lost.
See, this is I'm just going to like lose my train of thought.
It's spontaneous.
That's fine.
This whole thing.
That's all good.
Oh, you know what?
I did.
Let's see, I was going to say as far as anything I did, other than get a new dog.
I watched the Cove, the dolphin documentary, which I've never heard of this.
Horrific.
It's from 2009.
It's about like, you know, Japan has this long history of like whaling stuff and that
got me and in the, I think late 80s, maybe.
And since then, I've like turned to dolphins as like a method.
That basically there's like a Cove.
I think it's like I show or something.
I G type.
I do some little, you know, town, whole like deals that they just corral dolphins into this
Cove and then handpicked the young ones to like ship out for entertainment places around
the world.
And those sell for like, probably.
Well, not as much as like a killer whale, but they get thousands of dollars for these
dolphins.
And then the adult ones that aren't going to that, they like slaughter and then they like
sell the meat, but like sell it under different names than dolphin meat.
And it's like super full of mercury and stuff.
Yeah, right.
So it was like a whole documentary about kind of, because like they had very strict security
and we're trying to, you know, because this the guy essentially the dolphin trainer for
the flipper show from like the what the 60 70 something like that.
He's like an activist now.
And like he was featured in this documentary and his efforts to uncover, you know, kind
of do like a story and reveal this to the world.
So it was pretty rough.
And then I watched a different work of documentary and cried a little bit in that one.
And then for some reason I cried in La Ville in like the other day.
So I'm like, I don't know what's happening.
Wow.
Even if today is really getting to you, huh?
Oh my God.
Yes.
Oh my.
I cried watching.
What is this episode?
Oh my God.
We'll get to it.
Uh, the last one.
Yeah.
The last one.
Okay.
Well, speaking of the ocean, I did play iron lung.
I beat iron lung yesterday, which is like an indie game.
Okay.
You're in a submersible like you're in like a submarine that's like tiny.
It's like one room and you have to, and you're on a blood moon.
You're on a moon that has a sea of blood and you have to go and take pictures of stuff
and it's like lots of spooky sound engineering going on.
Okay.
It's cool.
People are still stuck in the iron lung.
Like there's a few, uh, remain.
Oh, like the actual.
Yeah.
The freaking socks.
Uh, yeah.
Yeah.
On that note.
You want.
Uh, talk about the show.
Yeah.
So we only have two more episodes left after this.
Yep.
Of like, because there's such a short season.
Yeah.
We're at the halfway point.
Well, I feel like it's the animation from the majority of these episodes doesn't feel
the same caliber as the first season either.
Like you would assume any scene where they played like serious music for drama would
be animated.
Well, but I feel like that's not the case.
Like maybe certain shots are, but not the entire scene.
Like, I don't know.
Like, yeah.
Meh.
I didn't notice that half cooked season or something.
Big of a difference, but I guess if they're doing it less often, I didn't really pay attention
to how often they're doing like little visual gags and stuff like that.
Yeah.
Well, like, right.
Lots of, I think more chibi than normal.
Yeah.
Stuff like that.
Or like, I mean, I like that storming off there, like reusing the same animation.
They do.
Yeah.
That's that.
I mean, that's fine.
I don't think that's bad.
That's like, I don't know.
I just, I think for show Joe, if you don't.
Cause the strong point of show Joe is like the very beautiful artwork, which is hard
to capture in the animation versus print.
But if you don't even try, then it's going to, you know, that's why there was a third
season until now, I guess.
I think it seems weird because like we looked at the production schedule, right?
Or like we looked at how it was in between season one and two, and it wasn't that much
time.
So they had to have been like making season two while season one aired, right?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I mean, there's a crunch or something.
So like, yeah, well that's, I mean, it almost seems like they ordered 36 episodes and then
just split it into two or like however many, like 30, whatever.
Because I can't really think of any other reason why they would break it up like that.
Like why is this one half the length of the other one?
I don't know.
Cause it's the time where like 12 episodes seasons became a thing.
Yeah.
When did the show come out?
What year was it?
Like 2010.
11, 2011.
Like the economy crash or something?
Oh, in Japan.
That's time period.
Who knows?
Yeah.
I couldn't tell you.
2009 is when it first aired.
The last episode aired in 2011.
I don't remember what was happening in 2011.
Oh, wasn't that the big reactor meltdown in Fukushima?
No, that's 2010.
I remember that there was like a tsunami in Japan.
Yeah.
But affected all anime at the time.
Yeah.
I don't know if it was that.
For some reason it just seems like it's a weird like thing to happen production wise.
Cause it's not just like you ordered one season and it's just like ordered another season.
It got canceled, but they like did a farewell short season or something.
Like, yeah, but that's a weird.
Yeah.
Well, this is why I think they ordered them at the same time.
Cause I guess they would have gotten feedback on like their viewership when they started airing the first episodes.
And maybe they were like, oh, well, that's not great.
I don't know, but did it do well?
I shouldn't be.
I should.
Oh, we should go to the episode.
I'll look this up at the end.
Okay.
I'm losing track of, I wish they just kept the actual episode number and not just the season two number in the title credit.
I'm starting to lose it.
What episode are we on?
20s?
Oh, like actually, I don't know.
Um, let me go to Wikipedia.
We are on episode.
So there's 25.
So 26 was the first one.
So we're in episode four.
So now we are on episode 29.
Okay.
No, dang.
No, that can't be.
I was going to wait.
Okay.
Yeah.
Because episode 26 is technically episode zero.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, I don't count.
So we're either on 29 or 30.
If you count episode zero, which Wikipedia does, or we're in episode four of season two.
I'm just going to start saying it from season two of perspective.
I don't care.
I didn't count it in our, our coverage as an episode.
Season two, it's season two, episode four.
Season two, episode four is called, you don't understand.
We open on Sawako thinking about the events of last episode where Kazehaya told her not to worry about his question about whether he was the closest guy to her in class.
She thinks about how she never came up with an answer to that question.
Elsewhere, Kent is dragged Kazehaya to a park bench.
He tells Kazehaya he just wants to hang out with his new classmate.
And that's why he's like getting close to Sawako.
Or no, that's why he's like, that's where we're hanging out right here.
Kazehaya.
And he does not buy that.
Kent immediately asked him if he has a girlfriend and Kazehaya says no.
Kent then comments that, hey, that's Sawako has been a loner for a while, right?
I hear your whole deal is that you can't leave loners alone, but like maybe it would be best if you did that, huh?
And Kazehaya responds by asking him what the hell he's talking about.
He's like, what are you, I don't know what you're saying.
And he says that he never thought of himself or Sawako like that.
Kent is kind of surprised by this, but then just laughs it off.
Kazehaya tells him to mind his own business.
And Kent says that maybe Kazehaya should leave her alone because if he gets too close, then other girls would get jealous and ostracize her.
Kazehaya says he knows what he's doing and he can handle it.
Also, who are you? What do you know about this anyway, Kent?
Yeah, what? Yeah, OK.
What do you think of Kent now?
Because last time you were like, ooh, our unsung hero, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Now what?
Uh, turned.
I mean, I still think, like, I do think when he says that he is a nice guy, he is being like, he is genuinely trying to help here.
He reads it wrong. This is what happens.
And even says at the end of like the last episode, he's like, oh, yeah, I totally like misread all of this.
But to be fair, this is a show about everybody misreading everything.
And if Kent didn't do this, they would have, they would have stagnated forever.
Yeah, that's true. That's true.
Like that's going to be my, we'll get to it, but that's going to be my like thesis statement is like, OK, yes, he does.
He does screw up here, but also if he doesn't screw up, then Kazehaya and Sawako are dead in the water.
Yeah, that's true.
Kent says that no matter what, oh yeah, Kent says that no matter how much closer he gets to Sawako or Kazehaya gets to Sawako,
she'll get more isolated and she's going to be, you know, it's kind of miserable if Sawako is as cling to some false hope of Kazehaya liking him.
He doesn't say that part out loud, but that's what he's referring to.
Kazehaya says that Sawako is flourishing and doesn't need to cling to false hope. What are you talking about? I don't understand what's happening in this conversation.
At that Kent says that Kazehaya doesn't really understand the situation because him and Sawako are like opposites and he's actually very distant from her.
Like you think you're close to her and I don't think you are, man.
Kazehaya gets annoyed and walks off.
Kent yells after him asking if he likes anybody and Kazehaya says he does.
Kent asks if he wants help setting them up because he could probably like make that work somehow and Kazehaya refuses his help.
He walks off thinking to himself if he really understands Sawako or not.
We got the Chizu trying on dresses with Ayaane. What?
I was just going to say catch a Chizu like about to contribute more to that.
We're getting some Chizu screen time. Here we go. She's trying on dresses with Ayaane. She buys one while walking home.
Chizu tells Ayaane that Toru's going to have a small intimate wedding next weekend and that she's invited as like a family friend.
So she's like part of the family party. It's going.
Later Chizu, now alone, sees Kazehaya walking home. She's like, hey man, check out like I went shopping. I bought this dress. Isn't that cool?
And he's like, yeah, that's cool. And then he asks or no. And then she asks Sawako went home already and Kazehaya is like probably really stoically because he doesn't know.
Because he doesn't know her.
He doesn't know her. And then he asks Chizu if she thinks that Sawako and him are different.
And if maybe she doesn't know it or yeah, maybe he doesn't know anything about her.
Chizu is like, I don't know man. Maybe.
And then thinks to herself that Kazehaya is a dork that doesn't even know that Sawako likes him, which is a very funny thing for Chizu to say because she had told explicitly by Ayaane like two episodes ago.
No. Oh, right. Yes. That's right. Yep.
Kazehaya says he had always thought he understood her better than all the other people around her. And she says she's like, oh, well, if I think about all of us like you, me, Ayaane, Ryu, you're probably like the least similar to her out of everybody.
And this and Kazehaya is destroyed. Yeah, devastated by this revelation that he is the least alike her.
They part ways and Chizu wonders if something's happening between him and Sawako. But then she's like, eh, not my problem.
It will be.
Oh, boy.
It's like what it's like if you play a telltale game and it's like Kazehaya will remember that.
Yeah.
Totally. And it's got doesn't haunt Chizu, but.
No way. I'm going to be thinking about this later.
We cut to the next day where Karumi and friends are walking to school. They tell Karumi about Sawako study group and Karumi is like, oh, did Kazehaya set that up?
That's pretty funny. And her friends are like, no, that D-bag can't set it up. And Karumi's like, hmm.
Oh, man.
We cut to Sawako, who was who has spotted Kazehaya in the entryway at school and freezes like a deer in headlights. She just like totally clams up.
She tries to eat out a good morning and Kazehaya gives a very dour greeting and walks off.
Sawako thinks that maybe she's been mistaken this whole time about his feelings, you know, about her.
And that, you know, just like being casual friends is like the way things are supposed to be.
But even though she thinks that she feels kind of bad about it.
Chizu and Ioni just like see this happening.
And Ioni just has like a completely different haircut going on, not like a haircut, but like she's done her hair up in like a very...
Yeah, it's like a updo kind of wavy.
Yeah, it's like very put together for, I don't know why. It doesn't seem like anything's happening today.
But it's nice to see.
But I mean, it doesn't happen very often. And mostly it's just like Karumi and Sawako we see this with.
But there are like slight variations in appearance as far as hair styling at the very least.
So I think this is around the time where anime started to put more effort into that early show, Joe, because he used to be like,
oh, everyone's going to wear the same outfit forever.
But yeah, I think this is where anime starts stepping it up or it's not being so lazy because in manga, they have like different stylings, you know,
but in anime typically they just leave it.
Yeah, so this is just, I think, a sign of that. Do we like it?
Yeah, it's good. I mean, I wrote that Ioni has some crazy hair going on. That's what I wrote in my notes.
But I think it's good, you know, it's like, all right, I thought something was happening.
I thought this, I'm like, oh, OK.
Ioni, corner Sawako in the stairwell and asked her why her and Kazehai are so awkward now. Like, what happened?
Ioni runs through the past events and then she interrogates Sawako, asking her why she didn't, like, she gave everybody chocolate at Valentine's Day except for him.
Why would you do that?
Sawako cries and says that she couldn't give it to him as a thank you, but she doesn't want to like be a burden to him if she gives it to him as anything else.
She thinks that both her agenda and her greed are now out in the open, which is an insane thing for her to say.
Ioni tells her that everyone is scared when it comes to like romance stuff, but you can't just run away from reality.
Yeah.
Sawako gets called over the intercom to do classroom chores.
Chizu and Ioni walk to class.
Chizu compliments Ioni on her inspirational speech about not being scared of stuff because she's like, yeah, I had no idea what to say back there.
I was just like standing there. I got nothing.
Ioni sees Kazehai talking to Ryu and she kicks him.
Ioni tells him that he should not pretend like he's avoiding Sawako like he did earlier and Kazehai is like, I'm not pretending.
And Ioni is like, we'll stop acting like you're pretending and then walks away.
Ryu asks Chizu what's going on and she's like, I don't know, dude.
Kazehai gets mad that everyone keeps acting like they have all the answers.
You got the Chizu asking Ioni what's up, like a little bit like when they're ahead later in a different hallway.
Ioni says that she feels kind of bad for venting her frustration on Kazehai because she also kind of feels bad for him too.
And she's just like, why would you feel bad for him?
And Ioni is like, what?
It's just a scene where she says she's just taking out her frustration on others, but we get no elaboration on what it is that's going on in her life.
There's a scene like that at some point.
I think it's this one.
Well, I think if this is her frustration about the Sawako situation.
Oh, I guess. Yeah.
I mean, this is like her being like, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I think she mentions she's like, you guys went on a date at the shrine.
Remember, we totally set that up, but you're not.
We don't get credit for it.
But we did.
Yeah.
And this is like an echo of, you know, Chizu taking stuff out on Ryu earlier.
So like taking stuff out on other people.
Girls taking stuff out on the boys, even though I feel like, I don't know, maybe he kind of deserves that.
I don't feel like you're really venting that much.
Let's see.
Yeah.
And Chizu doesn't know why Ayane would feel bad for Kazehaya and Ayane is like, are you serious?
She's like, well, I mean, yeah, dude, if like, if the girl he likes has some deep rooted fear of him,
that would like kind of suck for him, right?
And she's just like, wait a minute.
Are you telling me that Kazehaya likes someone?
Oh, no, that's terrible.
What's Sawako gonna do?
What are we gonna do?
This is a disaster.
And Ayane, again, is flabbergasted.
She's like, are you serious?
Ayane tells Chizu that Kazehaya likes Sawako, but has to stop her from like repeating it out loud by like yelling.
She's like, oh, he likes Sawako and she's like, dude, shut up.
Then she's like, yeah, then she's like, wait, if she likes him and he likes her, then there's no problem.
And Ayane is like, yes, that is literally what I've been saying to you.
There should not be a problem.
And she's just like, well, sweet, we've done it.
We've solved the puzzle.
Let's go tell him.
And then he can confess and we're all good.
And Ayane's like, no, she stops her and is like, does Kazehaya look like the kind of guy who'd want someone meddling?
And Chizu gets a flashback to a time in middle school where she told him that a girl liked him.
And he's like, well, why are you telling me?
Why isn't she telling me?
Yeah.
She's like, yeah, I guess he doesn't like that kind of thing, huh?
But then Chizu starts to think a little bit and gets another brilliant idea.
She's like, oh, well, if we can't tell Kazehaya, we'll just tell Sawako.
And then we can force her to confess, right?
Because there's like no danger of him rejecting her.
It's the perfect plan.
And she starts walking off to go do that.
And Ayane, again, is like, no, and drags her back.
Sawako cannot confess because she's actually scared of him for some reason.
And even if he says, yes, they can't date like that because you can't date someone you're like afraid of,
Sawako needs to be sure of her feelings or it won't work.
Chizu thinks that she might even...
Chizu is, yeah, she's like, well, she might not even believe us if we told her.
She might think we're just like trying to make her feel better.
Then Chizu thinks back to her conversation earlier with Kazehaya
and how maybe telling him that he and Sawako were the furthest in the group apart was like a bad call.
We get like a pretty funny visual of this where it gets like, it gets chibi and we also get the...
Did you ever play any of the WarioWare games?
The what?
WarioWare?
Like the...
No, I did not.
There's like a big...
At the bottom of the screen, there's like a big long fuse line that gets lit.
And so it's like...
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I like that part.
That's funny.
It's just her thought process slowly sinking.
Yeah, that's a visual thing I associate with WarioWare because all of the minigames have that timer and it's always a bomb.
Stressful, yeah.
Yeah.
So we got a good bit there.
That was pretty funny.
Sawako is about to walk into class when she hears the students on the other side gossiping about her cursed seminar.
They're like giving her compliments but in a weird way so she like misunderstands them.
But then Kent shows up behind her and he kind of gently like pushes her into class and all the students see her and they all compliment her much more straightforwardly for the seminar yesterday.
And she's like, oh, that's great.
How's it going?
Get wrecked.
It's just the continuing downward spiral.
Yeah, it's getting worse.
It's getting worse.
But like again, this is...
This is...
Part of this, I don't know.
It's one of these things where it's like, who's fault is this?
Why is this happening?
Right?
Like what is the thing?
And the answer is both of them.
I feel like all of this stuff happening and well, I guess we can get to it when we get to it.
But the fact that Kazahide does not open up to anybody is what is causing this problem.
Yep, yep.
Maybe he has some trouble past we don't know about.
If only we knew anything about him.
If only Sawako actually learned stuff about him.
Well, he'd have to open up for that to happen.
But when they talk, it's always like focused on her.
Yeah.
Episode...
What?
Oh, you got anything else?
Kento is cringe.
He's cringe?
He's cringy.
I think he's intentionally cringy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Posturing.
He's doing a bit.
Yes.
He's constantly doing a bit, which I think is cringy.
Everyone calls him the D-bag.
Like, absolutely wide.
What are you drinking out of straw?
I'm not drinking out of a straw.
What?
Is that your chair?
Sounds like a straw, like being closer to plastic styrofoam.
Oh, okay.
No worries.
Okay.
I'll think that came up on the mic.
Anyway.
Let's see.
Episode five is called Someone I Like.
Sawako tells us that the midterms are over, so we got another time skip.
Everybody did better because of Sawako's study group.
We also learned that the school festival is coming up soon, and the theme is fantasy.
Joe offers that their class should do a Sawako's Black Magic Cafe themed booth after he overheard
some freshmen talking about, like, the legend of Sawako.
Yeah.
That idea wins the class vote, so they're going to do that.
Later, Sawako is showing some girls her garden while Chizu and Ayane just kind of chill behind them.
They're like having a good time, and Kazehaya and the boys roll up on through, and the girls
are like, oh, hey, Kazehaya, check out Sawako's garden.
Pretty neat, huh?
He looks at it, and then she looks at him, but then she kind of cowered, and he ends up walking past without saying anything to her.
And Ayane looks on and gets pissed off.
Oh, my God.
So good.
Sawako wonders if she's the one pushing him away.
Ayane wonders aloud what she should do now that Sawako and Kazehaya are gridlocked.
Chizu starts to feel like maybe it is her fault for telling Kazehaya that he's distant from Sawako,
and maybe she should do something about it.
Ayane asks her if her and Ryu are going to go to the wedding together this weekend,
and she's like, oh, yeah, we're going to go.
It's going to be Sunday.
We got to go early, and she's like, oh, OK.
We cut to the day of the wedding where Chizu is getting ready.
She's got a dress on and is figuring out how to best apply gel-based eyeliner, which I guess is new to her.
Yeah, gel-based is weird.
Liquid eyeliner, at least that's the common term for it here, which is tough.
It is tough.
I can't do it.
I gave up on that endeavor.
It isn't art.
Yeah, well, she does it, and it looks kind of like she applied way too much.
It does not look good.
But don't worry, because Ayane shows up and teases her about it, and then she applies her what looks like nicer makeup to Chizu.
Yeah, yeah.
Chizu is probably rocking some H-E-B makeup, and Ayane is rolling up with her Sephora kit, essentially.
Yeah.
So she does her makeup, and then Chizu shows her look to this sonata family, and Ryu says that she looks pretty sweet.
We got a quick montage of the wedding.
At one point, Tora tells Chizu that they'll never lose touch, even though they're not related.
I thought that was weird.
It's like, cool.
I mean, I feel like I get why you'd want to put that in there.
Just final closure, whatever.
What do you think of her outfit?
I don't like the dress, and I don't like her hair styling.
You don't like her dress?
Also, I don't like the color of her eyeshadow, but like, that looks good.
Do you like any part of it?
Okay.
Her lips and like, mascara and stuff look good.
I don't know.
I just don't like the dress.
The black and like, that color purple don't necessarily go together that well, and it's not necessarily flattering.
It's got green eyeshadow.
That doesn't go with it.
She does have green eyes.
If you have brown eyes, purple and brown are the colors of eyeshadow to go with, which would make sense.
And her freaking dress is purple.
God damn it, Ayane.
And then I don't like the, I don't like the rose in her hair.
You don't?
I don't think so.
You don't like it?
It's too childlike, I think, the rose in the hair.
It's very little girl vibe.
I mean, but the, but what's her face also has one?
Ayane?
Aruka, the bride.
She also has one in the picture.
Okay.
You don't like the dress?
How's it going with the dress?
It's frumpy.
Like it's like what you wear, it is what you wear to like, I don't know, some obligatory family wedding, I guess, before you have a sense of style.
It's more like a middle school dress than a high school dress.
Okay.
I don't know what's wrong with it.
It's just like a dress.
It has a sash with like that's tied into a bow.
Yeah, gross.
That's pretty good.
It's also little girl too.
It's like the outfit of a toddler going to a wedding for an adult woman wearing it.
Yeah, but like, she's this whole thing, she's really tall.
So I feel like that is fine to do like a vice-sector thing.
I feel like Shizu needs, like, I feel like in her normal like clothes, she's pretty trendy or like she has those nice long legs.
So I don't know, she should have worn something like maybe a maxi dress or something.
And she's going to a family wedding.
Yeah, maxi dress, cover them legs.
It's a formal event.
Okay.
I don't think it's a problem.
Meh, it's whatever.
I guess you don't want to outstitch the bride.
No.
We need to not, okay, sorry, continue.
Okay.
What was I doing?
I don't know.
Oh yeah, they got a picture together.
Toru, Haruka, Ryu and Shizu all get a photo together and it's cute.
Afterwards, Ryu has gone for a run and Shizu is like standing there waiting for him at some corner.
Like the animation where he's not actually moving on the screen.
Yeah, that's fun.
She's wearing heels.
It looks kind of cold.
You live in the countryside.
I would not want to be walking around in heels.
I think the implication is that she doesn't really go home.
You know what I mean?
Like he hasn't gone home and like changed all the way.
She changed everything but her shoes.
Those are the shoes she was wearing.
Those were like green shoes.
They wouldn't have gone with her outfit.
Okay, I don't know what she's wearing.
She explains the green eyeshadow.
This entire next scene is a little weird.
Yes, it is.
Anyway, she stops him while he's on his run.
She goes to a convenience store and buys him a soda or something.
She brings it out to him and they're chilling out the side of the store.
She brings up the upcoming summer tournament.
She's like, oh yeah, this is coming up soon, huh?
You should.
And then she wishes him good luck.
And he's like, cool.
Anyway, what's up?
Why are you talking to me out here?
And he's like, yeah, there's something you want to say to me.
And we get a cut away to like the entryway of the convenience store.
And when we return, we get a slow pan of Cheezoo who has executed a
Kavadan maneuver, which is when you are like facing the other person
and they have their back against the wall and you press your hand up
against the wall kind of like entrapping them a little bit.
That's a meme.
Yeah, so it's.
This is an anime trope.
Yes, it is.
I know like Prince Fasket comes to mind with Toru and Keo,
but it happens a lot.
Yes.
Although this is a reversal because usually the guy is the one doing it,
but now it's Cheezoo doing it.
Yeah, that's because she's cool.
Because she's cool and their faces are really close to each other.
And Cheezoo says, please Ryu and Ryu is like, no, I'm not going to be doing that.
And she's like, why not?
And he's like, because, and we get a reveal that she's asking him to tell
Kazehaya that he and Sawako are actually really close.
And he was like, I can't.
That's not going to make any sense if I say that,
but I guess I will talk to him about Sawako.
But that's just because I'm friends with him.
It's not because you're wanting me to be fine.
And then we get the end of that scene.
That scene ends a real tease to like, you know, I know, I know.
Because I feel like he wasn't necessarily making eye contact with her.
Like he might have been like that's his way of showing us that we could see him
being slightly nervous because he was like, oh, that he was into it.
Yeah, well, he's like looking off like not directly into her eyes the whole time.
Yeah.
Yeah, she's being really intimate with him.
I don't know if she's trying to like use her womanly wiles to get her way.
Or she's just like, no, because I feel like this is also a thing where you see
like, oh, they're in a alleyway next to the supermarket and a bully's trying to
take somebody's money and she can do intimidation.
Like that. I don't think she's actually like, yeah, this doesn't really
actually make sense for her character to do this.
I think they're just doing this because it's like, ooh, then you think they're
going to like do a romance thing, but it's actually about something else.
I mean, the gesture of trying to get Ryu to bail her out of the hole she dug
herself makes sense.
But just yeah, this intimacy.
The framing. Yeah.
Is very much teasing the audience about it.
But you know, I guess we have half the season left.
Maybe they can actually do something with Ryu and Shizu, but they don't.
That's all we get for these episodes.
It's the next day and everyone's eating lunch.
Sawako is worried about the dark magic cafe because she doesn't really have any
actual psychic abilities, but she's in a on air like it's fine.
It's just kind of a bit anyway.
Sometime passes and Kent runs into her watering the plants.
She's like watering him.
He like pops out of the window.
He's like, hey, what's up?
He invites her to have a chat.
Nearby, Penn sees them talking.
Did you like the song he was singing?
As he came up with the song, Penn was singing.
Yeah.
What was it?
It was like some.
Yeah, it's just him being like, I'm sorry, ladies.
I'm just too.
You know, like.
Yeah.
This is this is this has been a good string of episodes for Penn.
I again, I like Penn at the end of these episodes.
Yes.
It's gonna be a roller coaster with him.
I'm always up and down on Penn, not actually because of him.
Like everything his character does is totally fine.
It's just like the way the show keeps positioning him too close to IAANNE is like,
I do not trust this show.
Yep.
Yeah.
Elsewhere, Kazehai and Ryu are eating lunch in the cafeteria.
Do you see Joe eating a whole?
Yeah.
He's just eating a baguette.
It's very funny.
Yeah.
Oh man.
He's like, he's like a little hamster.
He's just like biting off ends of it.
Yeah.
So Kazehai and Ryu are eating lunch at the cafeteria.
Ryu is trying to think about how to bring Sawako up.
And the thing he decides on saying is, Hey man, you got to confess to Sawako or not.
Kazehai is like, what's the why are you asking me that?
But then he does eventually say that he doesn't really know what he's going to do anymore.
He used to do whatever he wanted to around here and just like act normal.
But now it feels like he's, yeah.
Yeah.
But now he feels like he's just being a bother to her.
So like he's totally lost now.
He asks Ryu if he thinks that she thinks he's a bother and Ryu is like, I don't, I kind of doubt it.
I don't think she thinks that.
And Kazehai is like, yeah, I don't think that either really.
But then Pinsie's them.
Yeah.
And he starts talking to Kazehai.
He's like, oh, you eat lunch at the cafeteria, you little weirdo.
And then he sits down and tells him that his wife is cheating on him with Kent.
Kazehai gets so riled up.
He stands up angrily, but then he gets embarrassed and sits back down.
He's like, that's just admitting to pin.
I mean, Pinn clearly already knows, but it's very funny.
He tells Pinn that it's not cheating and Pinn's like, oh, oh, so that means you totally got dumped while it wrecked.
And Kazehai is like, no, I did not get dumped.
That's not it either.
And Pinn is like, well, if he didn't, if he didn't get dumped, that can only mean one thing, which is that you never asked her out in the first place.
LMAO couldn't get your courage up to confess under the jungle gym, little boy.
This is very funny. Pinn is Kazehai's childhood bully.
This is just Kazehai's life.
No wonder he doesn't tell anyone anything.
He's going to be weaponized against him by Pinn.
I mean, again, but it's funny, but also this does work.
This is the only thing that gets Kazehai to do anything.
He has to be riled up.
Yes, Kazehai is too comfortable.
This is his problem.
He needs to be pricked out.
He needs to be like, you got to poke him or he won't do anything.
Kazehai tells Pinn and Ryu that honestly, he doesn't feel like he understands Sawako at all.
And Pinn's like, yeah, man, that's like totally, that's how dating works.
What did you think? It was going to be different for you?
Kazehai gets up and he's like, Pinn, where did you last see Sawako?
And then he rushes off to go see her elsewhere.
Sawako and Kinn are sitting on a bench outside.
Kinn congratulates her for like finally fitting in with her class.
He's like, you did it.
And Sawako comes to the realization that she did it.
She fits in with her class and like can hang out with them and stuff.
And like, she accomplished her goal.
Kids like, yeah, man, now you don't need like Kazehai always helping you out.
Isn't that great?
And Kazehai looks sad and Kinko is like, oh, you're not like happy about that.
Did you like want more of Kazehai's attention?
Sawako reflects on her life goals.
Originally, she just wanted to make some friends and fit in.
She says that getting Kazehai's attention was just the privilege of being lonely.
And he's like, that makes sense that like you get the wrong idea about him because of how he talked to you, you know,
and Sawako gets super embarrassed because he's read her mind again.
He knows that she likes him.
He continues saying that it's not like he does, you know, it's not like Kazehai has any like bad intentions or anything when he's like overly nice to like loner girls.
But he doesn't seem kind of like insensitive about like not considering how that looks.
Sawako says that that's not true and rattles off all of his good qualities like in a row.
And Kinn's like, oh man.
Sawako says it's her fault for her fault alone for misinterpreting things.
Kinn's like, well, at least you acknowledge it.
And Sawako is like, all right, we cannot keep talking about this out loud.
This is too embarrassing.
And then Kinn says that it's probably better if she just steers clear of him for a while because now he's like free to do his own stuff, you know,
he doesn't have to worry about you anymore.
And he very mournfully tells her that like also Kazehai has somebody that he likes.
Sawako gets a flashback of Karumi telling her that she got rejected and she's like, oh, this all makes sense now.
And keeps telling or Kinn keeps talking about how this is a good thing actually because she's free to like live her life now.
Sawako is not listening to any of this and gets up and wanders off and Kinn's like, oh, bro, where are you going?
And catches up to her and she starts just like crying.
This scene.
What?
Where she's crying at the tree just like a little drawing the animation.
This scene is funny.
Like she's just like, oh, yeah, she's like blubbering out and he's like, oh, oh, my God.
Can't catch us up there.
Yeah. And he sees that she's crying.
He's like trying to say stuff to make her feel better, but she just like won't stop crying.
And then he looks at her more seriously and is like, well, like why not date me?
I wouldn't mind if it was you.
What do you think of this?
But then well, I got one more sentence left.
Okay.
But before Sawako can say anything, she turns her head to see none other than Kazahaya himself was rushed over here as we cut to credits.
I made a note like, thank God this wasn't the last episode of this group.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
So what I think about Kent being like, this feels like the first actually insincere thing he says.
I think he real this is a pity thing.
He's like, yeah, if it'll help you get over it, you can like date me for a little bit.
You have very, very different reads on the situation because really.
Okay.
You think he's well intending like just trying to like prevent her from getting hurt by like liking Kazahaya, blah, blah, blah.
I think he is meddling intentionally causing friction because he's interesting in her.
And, you know, even at the cost of her being hurt wants to put this wedge between her and Kazahaya so that he can worm his way in.
Maybe only it could be just because he wants to be popular.
He wants to be in the spotlight and Kazahaya is so popular that if he can get the girl that Kazahaya seems to be paying so much attention to it's like he wins against him.
Okay.
That's interesting.
That's not my read at all.
I know.
I wonder what.
I don't know.
Although I feel like most of my read comes from next episode, but like my read of the thing is that he actually believes Kazahaya is just being nice to her because he's nice to loners.
Like I think he actually believes that about Kazahaya.
I mean, we get the revelation that he realizes that Kazahaya does actually like her as in he didn't think that he did.
So he didn't think that Kazahaya was into her, but he was paying special attention to her.
I think, I think, I think Saloko is funny.
And so she's like hanging out.
He's like hanging out with her.
I don't think he's really that interested in her.
Like when he does this thing, it really does feel like a, yeah, I'll take one for the team.
We can like go out for a little bit of a mix.
You feel better, you know, that kind of thing.
Like I don't think he's actually interested in Saloko that way.
I think he's just trying because this is a last ditch effort for him, right?
Like he does not lead with this.
He's just like, oh, but like there's other guys like, don't worry about it.
Like all this stuff is okay.
Like it's going to be fine.
You know what I mean?
And then he's like, well, you know, you could you could date me.
And even when he says he's like, I wouldn't mind if it was you, which is not really the thing you say if you actually.
Well, okay.
Here's the thing.
He's got like this reputation of hitting up chicks.
Yeah, I'm assuming he's probably like dated a lot.
Or like that's his whole personality in high school.
He's peeking in high school.
Like his thing is to be popular with girls and but it's like turned into a bad thing.
Kind of.
But I just, I think he doesn't like her.
He finds her amusing.
I don't, I don't remember what we learn of his backstory, but I'm assuming it's like he keeps like a very shallow facade with everyone.
It doesn't get deep.
So he's probably like lonely or bored.
So like she is his new entertainment.
And so, yeah, you know, like he's like a toy to him kind of.
I think he's just messing around.
Like again, like we see, you know, we see him like try to hit on Karumi or whatever, but like he knows that she kind of hates him.
Like he's not seriously expecting her to respond well to that.
And even when she's like brushes him off, his friends like, dang, she's kind of mean and he's like, yeah, it's like way better.
She's like actually being like a real person.
Like I know she's being genuine.
There's a scene where his friend, that guy, is Suru, isn't wearing a scarf.
I thought you'd be like, look, scarf guy no longer has a scarf or something.
Yeah.
Now we don't really see much of Suru in these episodes.
But yeah.
So I think he, I think he's mostly just bored and mostly just messing around.
Yeah.
I don't think he's serious about any of this.
Like I don't think he's actually trying to like ask these girls out because he's always asking people he like knows, don't care.
You know what I mean?
But you don't think he's like just intentionally messing it up for other guys too?
Like if they don't like him, then he doesn't want to be with anyone else.
I mean he does.
He is friends.
Yeah.
I don't think he's just messing.
I don't think he's trying to mess things up.
Like I think he actually believes that like he knows Sawako likes Kazihaia and he actually believes that Kazihaia likes somebody else.
So he's like trying to create distance between them so that he can.
It's so obvious though.
Get off.
Like she can get off without like her heart being broken that hard.
You know what I mean?
He is trying to create a soft landing for her.
He's not a good guy.
That's my stance.
Okay.
I feel like, again, I don't know like this is like he's meddling.
But again, you know, it kind of comes down to if somebody doesn't do anything, these guys are never going to get together at all.
Yeah.
So like in terms of a plot, like he's important to the plot.
I'm glad he's here for the story.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
I suppose.
You still there?
Yeah.
Sorry.
I was feeling a decal off a sticker.
I just.
Sorry.
I got distracted.
Yeah.
We're going to see.
I mean, yeah.
Right.
I don't remember season two like at all.
So other than the Valentine's Day thing.
So it's remembered territory from here on out.
Clean sleep.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, we get it.
So next episode is called.
Oh, yeah.
The other thing I was going to say about Kent real quick is that like he is friends with those like with those girls he talks to.
So like he does have an actual friend.
He can't just be normal around women.
I think it's just written off as kind of a player.
So they can maintain this friendly casual demeanor.
But I don't think he's like actually good friends with any of them.
Maybe he just hangs out with them in groups.
But I don't think I'm genuinely.
You like.
Interacted one time.
How are you reading this much into it?
I mean, whatever.
Episode six.
Episode six is called a favor and bother.
We pick up where things left off cause a high a C is that Kent has like.
Grabbed her arm at one point.
To like make her feel like to say some stuff, you know what I mean?
Like to get her to turn to him.
So he grabs, he grabs Kent by the collar and like push him up against the chain link fence.
It's a fan to know why Kent made her cry.
Solicone.
Solicone explains.
Walks in and like she's crying.
He's like physically put hands on her.
Like did he do something to make her cry?
And make her cry with like cruel intentions so he gets like, you know, I don't know,
defensive, possessive, whatever.
Yeah.
So I was like, yeah, this is I'm not rooting at this.
Solico explains that Kent was just trying to encourage her and that was all and it's like nobody's fault.
None of this is anybody's fault.
And cause a high is confused.
For some reason, three random guys see cause a high and start approaching.
But then they see that like it's cause a high who's kind of looking angry.
There's Kent, who's the guy nobody likes.
And then there's Solico who's crying and they start laughing at the absurdity of the situation.
They're like, oh man, what's going on here?
Cause a high is like, are you and Kent fighting over Sotico?
That's crazy.
And Solico thinks that this is an incredibly poorly timed joke.
Well, cause a high is like, yeah, that's like exactly what's happening actually.
The guys are like, wait, really? Like actually you like Solico and cause a high is like, yes, I like Solico and everybody is shocked, including Solico and Kent.
Then cause a high is like, is there something wrong with that?
Is that you guys got a problem?
And those three guys are like, oh, no, no.
Solico.
Yeah.
Solico gets a flashback of all the moments she shared with cause a higher in season one.
She says that what he said is very misleading.
And the guys are like, oh, like, don't worry.
Like we'd never actually believe that you and cause a high were dating and they start laughing and cause a high tells them to stop.
And then he looks at Solico and says, if he's bothering her, she should just tell him.
She says nothing and he starts to walk off.
Solico finally calls out to him and then starts to follow after it.
Kent looks at those two leaving and then back at the other guys and he's like, oh, did you guys hear that?
That's the warning bell. We better get back to class and like escorts them all back.
Interception.
And the guys are like, why are you like escorting us?
We don't need to be escorted back.
And while he's going, Kent thinks to himself how he is mortified that he misread cause a high is that hard as they walk back.
This is why I feel like this is him being a good guy is because he's like, oh, shit.
I actually got this wrong.
He's just blase about a lot though.
I feel like to hand the stakes aren't that high.
I feel like you're making your life that way more negative.
In class, the girls notice that Solico and Kazekai are missing.
Solico finally catches up to him, but doesn't know what to say.
She still doesn't quite believe that he likes her.
He asks her why she was crying and Solico apologizes for things that bother to him.
He tells her that she's never been a bother and she should stop saying that.
He's not just being nice to her. He actually likes her.
He's like this whole time I've like, I'm not treating you.
I've not been trying to treat you the same as everybody else.
He asks her if she likes him and she says yes, he's happy, but then says he thinks that his like and her like don't mean the same thing.
And at that, Solico agrees and Kazekai walks off dejected.
Solico collapses on the ground crying and they're both counted absent in class.
Oh no.
Skip in class.
Get wrecked. God, these two.
The misunderstandings never ending.
It's like not even that much of a misunderstanding. It's like it's such a near miss.
Just elaborate.
Right.
Just continue talking like too much.
You know, you say, you say, oh, I don't think they're the same thing, but you don't explain what each one is.
If you just explain what each one is, you would have resolved this, but no, you just have to leave it there.
Well, you think like in the beginning of season one, Solico learned like how much it helps to like explain everything to prevent misunderstandings.
And then she like does that to excess.
And then if only she was doing that now.
Yeah. Well, now the stakes are so high. The emotional stakes are so high she can't do it.
Yes.
Oh.
We got to some boys gossiping about causing high confessing to Sawako.
Karumi overhears this elsewhere.
Ioni and Chizu ask Kent if he if he's seen Sawako.
And he says, oh, last time I saw her, she was chilling with me outside on a bench and Ioni accuses of a meddling.
But they both are but Ioni and Chizu end up taking off.
And is about to follow them. He's like, oh, maybe I should go to actually, but he's stopped when Karumi catches the back of his shirt.
And she demands that he tell her everything.
He says that, you know, he might have majorly screwed up.
So I was crying.
Yeah, big time.
So I was crying in the corner outside.
And sees her and gets scared.
He's like, oh, shit.
What a sight.
It's like a really sad looking Sawako in a corner outside of the building.
Then he remembers his talk with Kazehaya earlier and she's like, oh, dang, did you dump his ass?
And she responds by saying that she got rejected, actually.
And it's like, but that doesn't doesn't make any sense.
He like rushed over here to see you just to dump you.
That doesn't make any sense.
Listen, Sawako, that guy fucking sucks.
Forget her.
Forget he ever existed.
Which is actually kind of why she's trying to console her.
Yeah, pins a nice guy.
Just a dumbass.
Ionane and Cheez-Ee see the two of them together and they like castigate Pin for saying weird stuff to her.
And they send him off.
He's like, whatever, I'm leaving it.
They demand Sawako tell them what happened.
She fills them in and Ionane is furious.
She blames Kent.
Sawako says that she thinks that she's conceded because she thought Kazehaya was treating her the same as everyone else,
but she was wrong and was always putting him out.
Ionane is about to comfort her.
Well, she's about to say something to her when she steps in and says that she doesn't like Sawako's attitude.
She asks if she thinks that all of her friends are just friends because they pity her.
And then she gets mad that Sawako isn't valuing herself and storms off.
I cried at the assist.
Cheez-Ee started crying. I started crying because they just care about her so much.
Friendship.
Yeah. Well, Cheez-Ee's right about this.
Yes.
Ionane tells her that Cheez-Ee's just concerned about her.
So like she's actually mad at you.
She then says that at first, you know, she thought that Sawako was kind of awkward,
but now they've become friends after a while and they've grown to love her.
So like this isn't, we're not pitying you.
There's no difference.
She says that there's no difference between them, her, and Kazehaya unless Sawako decides that there is a difference between them.
Then she says that she's going to go check on Cheez-Ee and runs off.
Ionane catches up with Cheez-Ee and Cheez-Ee is like, damn it, dude, I did it again.
I got, I got all, I got all emotional.
I started yelling.
Then she apologizes for cutting off Ionane earlier and Ionane was like, oh, don't worry about it.
I was just going to say like that Kazehaya likes you all super blunt like, but what you said was actually good enough.
So I didn't need to say that.
We end on Sawako thinking to herself if she actually ever made an attempt to learn about Kazehaya, she did not and has ever been focusing and all she's ever been doing is focusing on herself as we cut to credits.
Oh boy.
Self-reportion.
Inrect.
Well, because I guess for the most part, up till now, it's all been how Sawako is interpreting other people's feelings and what they're saying instead of thinking of her own, like thinking about why she's feeling certain things or what she's saying to other people and how they can perceive it sort of.
I don't know.
So hopefully this is like a period of reflection.
I don't know what kind of time passage are we going to have now?
It can't be that long.
No, because we got to do the school festival.
So I don't know how we got to do the school festival, but we got to get the festival.
Oh my God, it goes down always.
Yeah.
The what?
The panel.
We got to get the.
What?
What'd you say?
I didn't say anything.
You said you're about to enter into you.
Oh, we got to get the payoff.
We got to get the pay off.
Pay off.
I need to see Peruvian can't tear into him.
She's going to be so pissed off at him.
It's going to be great.
Well, because she's almost like a antagonistic godmother now to Sawako, like kind of overseeing
rules.
Yeah, but she's like, you ruined her and I are both pissed at Kento.
Well, they are.
But again, I feel again, I have a totally different view of Kent than I feel like you
do.
Yeah.
Um, him screwing up here is more useful than them doing nothing.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, again, all of this is, you know, I honestly, oh, we can't metal and you know,
Kourumi actually doesn't care.
So she doesn't get a medal in them that much.
You know what I mean?
Actually, I feel like Kourumi would have.
I feel like if Kourumi was in the loop, she'd be like fucking Sawako stop being a loser.
Come on.
Yeah.
I mean, she does say that at the end of the Valentine's.
She's like, listen, you got to be, you got to be for real about this.
But like, again, if Kent doesn't do anything, they do this for the next three years.
Tag me.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, yeah, they would never do anything.
Yeah.
What do you think?
So what do you think is going to happen now?
School festival, something's going to happen.
What's going to happen?
I mean, like Sawako has to come to the realization that she's you has basically been right.
Like the fact that Sawako cannot imagine a reality where somebody likes her romantically
is a huge problem.
And like she has to warp all of her interactions around that idea of like people don't actually
like her.
And this is what messes everything up.
I mean, this is like truly the root of all these problems.
Right.
Yeah.
I think Kento is going to talk to Sawako moving forward is going to feel super bad and try
to help her out.
Oh, yeah.
I think for sure he's going to feel bad and help her out.
I think he's going to be like, I totally like I am so sorry.
I completely misread the situation that when I said he likes somebody else, he actually
likes you.
You know, that that I think is what I do think he's nice.
I'm drying him off before he gets those words out of his mouth.
I feel like he would do it.
Listen, I again, I feel like he is actually nice.
This is the thing.
I feel like he is actually nice to people.
He's metal some.
What does that mean?
Why are you?
Why?
I think naming metal some is like a bad thing.
Again, I keep saying if he doesn't metal, nothing happens for more years.
I'm just saying he's doing all of this stuff, officially just out of his own like desire
for to see things happen, not because he actually cares about her as a person and wants to help
her.
It's just more of like, oh, I want to see this play out kind of.
I don't think it's I mean, I think it's both.
I think he wants to see this play out and he also wants to like make good things happen
for her.
Cry.
They'll make him.
Changes.
Motivations a little.
Are you like really think he was like nefarious this whole time?
Yeah.
Well, not nefarious.
How is he nefarious?
Just not.
I don't know.
Not caring.
Not considerate.
I think he don't think he cared.
No.
He like he set that whole thing up where he was like, oh, I'll make this symbol and that's
when you know how to smile and everybody will like it.
I feel like he was actually trying to help her out.
I mean, I don't I feel again, I feel like he's doing it because he's bored.
But like, I don't think that's bad necessarily.
I don't think that makes him like a bad guy that he's helping somebody out because he's
bored.
Yeah, it doesn't make him necessarily a good guy either.
He's a whatever guy.
OK.
OK, whatever.
I mean, like, sure.
Hmm.
Yeah, like he's not purely altruistic.
But then again, like nobody in this is purely altruistic.
So I don't know.
I want to say about that.
But I feel like everything he's doing is trying to be like he's he's trying to let
Saul go down easy because he doesn't think Kazekai actually likes her and he's pissed
at Kazekai for not like for leading her on basically.
That's what he's saying.
He's like, you've got to stop leading her on, dude.
He doesn't say that.
He should just say that.
But any last thoughts?
We'll see.
Who's right?
I don't know.
I mean, that's.
Oh, I did have a note.
But Kento needs to you.
He needs to go get some toner or purple shampoo or something because his hair color is just
not right.
It's like one little.
It's like almost greenish blonde, which is like a thing in games a lot where if there's
a blonde color option, it's like a heinous, gross ass color.
Yeah, I don't like the tint to his blonde hair.
It needs to be more gold than like straight up yellow.
Oh, yes, you were talking about.
Yeah, I picture of him.
Yeah, that's my closing thought.
Your closing thought on Kent.
Yeah.
I think he's nice.
I like him.
But again, I like everybody who'd be like, I liked Karumi when she was mad.
It's all good.
Yeah.
Because again, like, so I don't cause a high.
I would not do anything.
This is this is this is the thing I have taken away from this is like if they're not getting
pushed by some external factor, they are never making any moves.
Yeah.
And part of the reason and I feel like saw because like the main issue with that.
I mean, the fact that cause a higher like places card close to his chest also does not
help.
Yeah.
But the key thing, I mean, I think the end of what Cheezy says is just true is the problem.
She just stated the actual problem of everything.
You know what the problem is?
They didn't say that they like like each other.
I'm just like that, I believe no room for misunderstanding.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, cause a highest problem is that he just won't he just won't wait for
the answer.
He just keeps being like, oh, I guess we mean different things.
And then he walks off.
Finish your thought, man.
Yeah.
But I mean, you know what I had is like, I feel bad for him because like, yeah, what
would suck if the girl you like is like afraid of you for some reason, which is just true.
It's just true.
It's rough for him.
Yeah.
Let's see back to the most pitiful.
Oh, Ryu handing the baton back.
I don't know.
I mean, she does like, you know, Ryu does get like romance moves for not romance reasons.
So he gets wrecked in a like light, lightweight.
Like the thing about cause a high is like it should be able to work like there's still
opportunities for his thing to work.
I don't know.
I don't know if really, I don't know what's going on with that at all.
It's be real.
Yeah.
Only have six episodes left.
How are they going to do everything in six episodes?
Well, they don't.
They're not going to season three is coming.
We're not going to get anything I wanted this season.
You didn't get what you wanted last season.
So what makes you think you would this time?
We spent six episodes and we're not even resolved solid.
So we're not going to go cause a high yet six episodes.
We're not going to get.
We got six more.
Okay.
This has to resolve like next episode.
They have to be dating by the end of this season.
There's no way they can keep going if they're not dating by the end of the season or dropping
the show.
I think this show might be bad actually.
Or something or like.
I'm going to make you watch mermaid melody.
Pitchy, pitchy pitch.
And then you'll know what bad is.
What did you just say?
You just said it's one of the only manga series I've ever gotten rid of after owning art.
But it's actually like threw it out made straight up like no sense.
That is like shaman king because I was like, oh, the hair is too pointy.
I can't deal with this.
But yeah, just you wait.
I just started to go on some like more typical low tier and then given this as like a you'll
have this.
No, it's not.
I think I think it'll end on.
I think I think this season will not disappoint me.
I think it will end on this stuff.
It will end on.
They'll be they'll be together.
It'll be fine.
I think it'll be fine because it's just you can't you can't walk this back.
You know what I mean?
Like the thing that's nice about these episodes is that this is all big stuff.
They can't walk.
Yeah, that's true.
They can't play it off.
You know, I don't remember what happens.
So I have no idea.
I'm just saying we you know if next episode is the resolution of this, which I feel like
it kind of has to be or at least like the next two episodes have to be the resolution
to this.
We only have four or five episodes to figure out what's going on with Jizo and Ryu, which
they need to do something with.
And maybe that's enough time for Ayane to have any kind of character.
Come on.
I mean, it better not be Penn.
How long is the manga series?
Because right typically one episode of an anime is like three chapters.
One volume of a manga is about three episodes worth of an anime according to my 13 year
old calculations.
And I don't know, depending on the number of volumes, I don't know what like it looks
like there are 30 volumes, which is a lot.
23 chapters.
That's a lot for a show.
Joe, I've got nothing on Skitbeat, but still.
Yeah.
A lot of show.
Joe, Manga's are like seven volumes.
I mean, I'm sure there's some chapters in here that are just like little goofy one
offs that they probably wouldn't adapt.
But I don't know.
But I mean, obviously it was things will be left unresolved at the end of season two
because they didn't finish the story.
Yeah, I know.
I'm wondering if we're going to get anything on it.
You know what I mean?
Like, is this just a thing that's never going to be addressed or that you're sort of
doing anything on Ayane unless it's.
Oh, yeah.
Come on, man.
Action possibly is the only.
Have you have you enjoyed these first six episodes?
What is your thoughts on this having to like you kind of forgot what was going on?
Frustration.
Although we do get to see more.
I don't.
God, we've already said it before, but Salah Kuzboy's actor is so good.
But all the like her like bursting into tears, she be scenes are so funny.
I mean, we get to see her come and like what she would be like as a normal person more
versus, you know, like she's more concrete in who she is now, which is nice to see.
But as far as her and Kazai Haya, it's frustrating to watch.
Yeah, I can't get over the fact that like if I was watching this week to week, right?
And I just finished and I was like hype for season two and we open up on the Valentine's
Day thing.
Yeah.
And then six weeks pass and we're here.
I feel like I would be livid.
I feel like I'd be losing my mind.
I mean, again, I feel like where we ended up as like Salah Kuzboy, like the conclusion
is that Salah Kuzboy cannot accept the fact that people could like her like that.
Right.
Like there is a self confidence or self valuing thing that's going on that makes her unable
to like accept that.
That's real.
Like that is a thing that happens to people.
I know people this has happened to like I've run into this in actual real life.
So I think that's a good thing to have in the show.
Yeah.
But man, it took six episodes.
It's half the season.
Yeah.
I mean, because in the first season, we take breaks between it focusing on them to like
Chizu and Kiromi.
But this is like been nonstop.
Sawako and Kazai Haya like straight without any other like really strong, you know, B
stories to focus on to break it up.
Right.
Yeah.
We'll see.
And also like so much of it so far has been about the actions of everybody else around
of them trying to influence.
You know what I mean?
Yes.
And that's also kind of frustrating.
I mean, I guess that's this is the, you know, the actual problem, right?
Is the fact that neither of them are very active.
It makes sense.
Again, it's one of the things like this all makes sense.
But also it's frustrating knowing that we only have six episodes left to the season.
And then we got to wait for it to start airing, which it will start airing on August 1st.
Okay.
So that's what now it doesn't say it's on Netflix.
It doesn't say if it's going to drop at all at the same time, which Netflix is like kind
of what I associate it with, or if it's going to air week by week, which like more stuff
has been doing.
I don't know how the anime stuff.
Yeah.
So that's going to make it, I guess we're going to decide like what we're going to
watch or how we're going to do that, right?
Because we'll probably cover if they do it week by week, we'll have to cover one episode.
Did they, does it say how many episodes it's going to be this season?
I don't, I don't, I'm assuming just like 13, 12, 13, something like that.
Because that won't go for too long either for, well, no, it'll go for whatever amount
of episodes we'll cover one episode a week.
There's a new trailer that I can't watch.
Yeah.
Don't look at that.
This doesn't say how many episodes it's going to be.
I'm assuming it won't be too crazy, but I'm trying to think if we should just do like
a little short series as we cover this or do like a long run one because this will run
out eventually.
We could do, I feel like we could do two things, right?
We could either have it every other week where we cover this and then on the off week we
cover something else.
We could do like have two segments of the show basically.
Yeah.
One episode and then we, you know, we cover two episodes of another show that we're watching
at the same time.
I don't, I feel.
Or we just have like a shorter episodes for this and then like another episode that covers
another thing.
Yeah, maybe we'll just do that.
I don't want them to be in the same episode because some people might only want to listen
to the coverage of one and then just not want to touch our podcast that they have to dredge
through content of something they don't.
In case we start referencing things we mentioned in the first segment and stuff like that.
Yeah, but I'm also like, I feel like we should, the comparison might actually be useful.
It's going to be hard for me to like talk about two things and act like I haven't seen
the other one while I'm watching it.
You know what I mean?
Like while I'm watching something is being informed by other things.
Also, people maybe they don't want to hear it.
It's spoilers.
We can put timestamps in it.
Yeah.
Yeah, we can.
Whatever.
We'll figure it out.
We've got like two weeks, two, three weeks.
Two.
Yeah, we got like two or three weeks.
Yeah, we'll see.
All right.
You want to do the next segment because I got a PD.
Okay, great.
Normally I'm like, you do it first because I don't have something picked, but I need
to step up and think of something right away.
Okay.
I'm going to recommend a game called Caller Malice, which originally released on the PSV
to I believe I've kind of just bought out and every platform has come out on since just
to make sure they realize that's really good and that we're all for it.
And there's like a sequel to it now.
This has become a thing in Oatomy where they just instead of bringing new series, they
just like add additional stories and charge you like the whole additional gains worth
for those, which sucks.
But it's essentially the premise is that you are kind of low ranked police officer in,
I think it's Shinjuku.
And basically there's been some acts of terrorism and just this like section of, I don't know,
Tokyo.
So it's like quarantine.
So no one can leave or go from this, this division of the city.
And so there's been basically it's kind of like a mystery.
There's the guys, the eligible, datable guys are all former police officers that are now
working together under the guise of like a detective agency to try to solve different
aspects of these murders are happening because there's like a countdown.
Like, you know, there's like a deadline.
Like by this day, blah, blah, blah, something bad is going to happen.
And so you kind of your character kind of works with them and depending which aspect
of this whole, you know, like mystery thing is you'll explore that plot with whichever
character's personal story is tied with it.
So man, OK, sometimes I feel like the format of Otome games is typically not all of them
are available to play the routes of from the start yet to like play kind of what they
consider the base game characters.
And then you can unlock other ones after you've played through the first few stories, because
typically it'll like they save like big revelations in the story until the like last route because
the plot is like the plot between these different routes you play or connect it because it's
all based off the same thing, which has become the popular format.
There used to be or you don't see as often, but things like amnesia.
It's like you just get to pick your character right off the bat and each one of them has
a different plot.
Like the premise of the world is the same, but like how things play out are different.
So it doesn't matter the order that you play necessarily, which I prefer.
I rather technically the games that do we have to play through like the prologue and
this and that and then pick the character and then proceed like allows for more world
building technically.
Establishing like your character and stuff, but you have to like dredge through this like
where you're just basically you're selecting choices that like a lot enough points to the
person you want to play the route of and then it'll like go that way once you hit a certain
chapter.
But it's really good the character you play a girl named Ichiko and she's very cute.
The guys are super cute.
Takaru is my favorite.
I've got acrylic stand of another guy and it's you know, it's like kind of got mystery
detectivey things and then like the moments of levity and romance in between that.
So it's really good.
It's beautiful and it's on switch.
I think it's on stand maybe now.
But if you're into dating sims or visual novels, highly recommend caller malice.
The end your turn, Joe.
I'm all of a sudden so I was looking at like the announcements for Kimi to do a season
for it's listing all the voice actors and it's like these are the other people they're
like voice actors of and I'm losing my shit because the guy who plays Kazehair voice
X Kazehair Daisuke Namikawa is the voice of his soka in hunter hunter and like kid in
one piece and holenheim and full alchemist is crazy.
We should do a segment on that at like the end of like here's like the voice actors.
Here's like all the stuff they're in recognize them from.
Wild.
Yeah, I mean, I haven't gotten to the point of picking up like different Japanese voice
actors and telling the difference between them versus like if I'm watching a dub, I
can be like, oh, I've heard this voice before and typically I can recall what it's from,
but not the case with sub actors.
We should do that at the beginning of seasons of shows.
I'm like, we can do it at the end.
We'll do it at the end here.
Yeah, no directors commentary for the guy who directed this also directed great pretender,
which is a show I like a lot.
Anyway, the thing I'm going to recommend I watched another movie that I didn't talk about
in the first segment this week is I watch a bunch of movies.
Now I guess I watched Puss and Boots the Last Wish.
I don't think so.
No, you definitely haven't.
This is a movie that came out in 2022 and is not related.
So Shrek 5 is going to come out at some point, right?
Yeah, I saw that.
Yeah.
And I don't know if that's going to be good or not, but if it's anything like this movie,
it might be incredible because Puss and Boots the Last Wish is like a super good movie.
It's so good.
It has, you know, clearly the animation style has been influenced by into the spider-verse
as a lot of things happen.
You know, I recommended or I talked about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles last time, I
think, or maybe the time before that.
But they do that same thing where like certain characters and like movements will skip certain
frames and it'll give it this like really stylized sequence, especially during action
scenes and it looks really good.
The writing is really fun.
They introduce a bunch of characters that are like really good.
You know, the thing that Shrek did well is they take all these like fairy tale characters
and make funny little spins on them.
This one does a good job of it.
You know, like some of the later Shrek's not that good.
This is like actually very good.
You don't need to watch this like a different Puss and Boots movie 2011.
You do not need to watch that.
I have not seen it.
Apparently it was not that great.
You know, so you do not need to watch anything.
You could just watch this one straight up because you know who the character is.
And that's pretty much all that matters.
What themes about like the specter of death when you get along in age because you know,
the whole thing is that the whole the whole impetus of the movie is that, you know, Puss
and Boots is an outlaw and does all this other stuff and he is a cat.
So he has nine lives and at this point he has lost eight of them.
So he's down to his last life.
And so he's going to try to pursue a magical wishing star which can grant him or grant
anybody a wish and he's going to try to wish for his lives back.
Not more than he had before.
Not more.
Nope.
He's going to he's going to soft reset himself.
And Collette and you know, in high jinks and soothes.
It's good.
I like it a lot.
It's like a lot of really good action sequences.
A lot of really good comedy bits.
Antonio Bander is still voice acting him.
Yes.
Antonio Bander is still voice acting Puss and Boots.
He does a really good job.
I like him a lot.
It's very funny.
I watching Zoro as a child heavily influenced my preferences as a teenager, I think he
was hot in those movies.
He was hot in those movies.
Yes.
He's very funny in this.
He does a really good job.
Cool.
Yeah.
This movie is great.
Okay.
That's our first non-animate animated movie we've recommended.
Is that true?
Have I not recommended other ones?
I don't think so.
Did I recommend TMNT?
I don't think I did.
I think I just talked about it.
No, you're.
Wait.
No, I think you just talked about it in the episode with Jenny.
I think that was like what you had.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
I don't know.
No, just kidding.
You've recommended the Star Wars one before Rebels or whatever.
Oh, Rebels.
Yeah.
Rebels.
Still good.
I'm on season three of that.
How many episodes a season?
I don't think there's that many.
I think there are like 12 or so.
You're watching this other people weekly.
I take it.
Yeah.
I'm watching it with a podcast.
Okay.
But they're like really unlike the other podcasts I've listened to that have like I'm like five
years behind this one is.
Okay.
So I actually have to wait two weeks.
No.
I was at three has 22 episodes.
Oh man.
Okay.
And they're what like 20 minutes long.
Yeah.
They're like a standard 30 minute time slot.
So they end up being like 22 minutes or so.
Yeah.
Okay.
Nice.
Yeah.
It's been good.
Good.
This is again a good way to watch stuff.
I think this is the optimal way to watch things because I can't binge stuff or otherwise
I'll forget it.
Okay.
Now that we've given you the gift of our fabulous opinions and recommendations, it's time for
you to return the favor by gifting us.
With your reviews and ratings.
Yeah.
I feel bad for talking over it.
Yeah.
I'm going to cut that.
Trying to undermine my my transition.
Uh huh.
Take it away.
Dude, the voice actress for cheese you is the voice actress for Boreto.
Oh dear.
Anyway.
Yeah.
Rate us five stars and all the things on whatever you're listening to right now, go to the
go to the fucking part where you can rate it and throw down five stars and then leave
a comment if you're on Apple podcasts or if you're on Spotify, maybe there's like a little
question you can answer.
Answer that question.
Do it.
Do it right now.
Pause the episode and go do it.
Yeah.
I think Spotify just updated.
So instead of just having to answer a question, I think you can just straight up leave comments
on episodes.
Okay.
Perfect.
I saw that.
So yeah.
Yeah.
So do that.
Do that stuff that helps us out.
Um, you know, season three of community to know case almost upon us.
So if you know somebody who's going to watch that, you should recommend us to them that
they can also listen along and you guys can, you know, talk about the episode along with
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Yep.
Uh, yeah.
So I remember everybody, even if you listen, even if you metal incorrectly, sometimes that's
better than not doing anything and letting things just stagnate forever.
It's easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission.
True.
That is so good.
I kept asking for permission and cause I was like, no, and then she didn't do it.
You shouldn't do anything.
That's true.
Yep.
She didn't help them at all.
She didn't hurt everything but your own wins.
Just don't consider other people at all.
That's what I do.
Just start doing your own shit.
Yeah.
It'll work out.
All of the people can bond over how wrong you are and that'll get that closer to each other.
That's right.
When you get another animal and then, you know, your family behind you is being like,
God, can you please say I got another dog?
She has no self-control blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada.
Can you believe it?
They're saying it.
I know.
I just know it.
I know they're talking shit about me.
But I don't care because I wanted another dog and I can take care of her.
So, suck it.
On that note, bye.
Bye.