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Welcome back to show Joe, your favorite show Joe anime recap podcast where I, Sarah, introduce

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my good friend Joe to all the girly things that show Joe anime entails. Although our first

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series Angelic Layer is easing us in. Yes, this will be it whips. It's so good. These

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episodes are so good. A jam packed episode of show Joe and Angelic Layer together. So

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yeah, what have you been up to Joe in the two days until we last record? Okay, I'm

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going to Vegas this week. That's why I'm going to record these like once every week,

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right? So it's like when we release it, it's only a couple of days out from when we record

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it except for this one, which we recorded like two days after we recorded the last one

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because I'm going to go to Vegas for a birthday. You're going to go crazy for days. I'm going

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to go crazy. Every time I go to Vegas now, I just remember this one time I read a nonfiction

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book about gambling machines and how they're made. It's called addiction by design. I should

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pull up the author because it's actually very good. But it's all about how like gambling

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machines are like designed to prey upon people that are addicted or that have like possible

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that are potential for gambling addiction. And they are like scientifically designed

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to keep those people spending as much money as possible. And it's just like the actual

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like, I don't know if there's really evil in the world. However, I think dedicating

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an entire branch of research on how to exploit a certain population of people is like the

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closest you can probably get to it. That's pretty bad. Yeah. Uh, Vegas. It sounds like

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a nightmare to me. I don't want to gamble my money. Like, oh God, it was stressing out

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so much. I've never gone. If anyone can be good and win, it's you, Joe. No, you can't

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win. That's the whole thing. I know enough about math to know I'm not going to win this.

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The book is called addiction by design by Natasha Dahl-Schul. Good. You should read

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it. You think our listeners are going to read it? They're going to be super excited. We're

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gonna read the nonfiction book about gambling machines. I think they should. I mean, I do

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and I like this show. Just be like me. I think people should be trying new stuff. I am big

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on this now, like because I, because like I listen to podcasts and like random stuff.

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People give recommendations for things. Like I got this off of a recommendation and it's

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like weird things I normally wouldn't run into, but then you test them out and you're

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like, that's actually really interesting. I think that's where I get the most interesting

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stuff. Actually. It's just like random one-off. Somebody recommended a thing that sounded

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like not up my alley at all.

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So I'll just give it a shot.

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You're so open minded.

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I almost always you just get the same thing over and over

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and over again.

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You started to board of it.

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No, I normally that hour long math video.

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I don't trust anyone but myself for what I would like

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or my sister.

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I trust my sister's recommendations that not many others.

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Watch my math video.

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I sent you.

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Absolutely.

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Never, never, ever.

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About Hackenbush.

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Come on.

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Hell, maybe it'll change your life.

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No.

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So yeah, it's been like three days.

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This is your last.

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Luckily, last time we recorded, I forgot to mention something

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I'd been doing.

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So that's what I'm going to talk about today.

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I have been I like to keep some kind of show running

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in the background while I work just because I need.

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I need something.

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I can't just work.

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I need something else stimulating my mind at the same time

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because a lot of my work is visual.

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So I started rewatching this series called Heroes,

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which I don't know if you're familiar with it, Joe.

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It was like a show in 2006, I think, that had a few seasons.

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The first one being the best one, I think it kind of goes

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downhill and there's like a jump the shark moment in one

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of the seasons where it's just like, oh, God, what's happening?

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But the first season is very good.

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It's got like hate and panter.

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It's like people, you know, genetic blah, blah, blah.

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People are starting to have powers and they're all kind

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of interconnected and like that to prevent this big accident

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from happening and it's good.

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I like it.

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So I've just been rewatching that like the first season is so good.

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I just remember how bad it gets.

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So I don't know at what point I'll be stopping.

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But yeah, recommend the first season at least.

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Yeah, I've heard of that show, but I never watched it.

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And then people said it jumps the shark.

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Like I going back to 100 percent.

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Because it's like none of the, you know, it's 2006.

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But I mean, some like CGI scenes of like destruction of Manhattan

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are kind of badly aged effects wise.

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But all the powers and stuff look pretty good.

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And there's like, you know, greater scale mission,

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but also each person has their own personal issues to juggling.

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Why can I fly?

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Or why can I read minds or one guy in particular, super jazzed about it.

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He like can manipulate time and teleport and stuff.

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And his name's hero, like H.I.R.O. from Japan.

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And he's all like, this is what I was born to do and blah, blah, blah.

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And he's super.

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And is this like around the same time when like Smallville was popular?

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Probably. I feel.

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Yeah, I watched that.

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I tried. I couldn't.

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I couldn't.

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I mean, because this isn't based off of, you know, characters you're already familiar with.

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I thoroughly enjoyed it or am reenjoining it.

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And yeah, but that's what I've been up to.

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You've been. Yep.

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So I was watching my friends dog this weekend, so I was kind of,

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I didn't get to do as much stuff as I normally do.

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I was watching my mom's dogs and cats.

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They're all not cases.

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I had to spend more time outside, which I hate.

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But I did have the time to play two pretty quick visual novels.

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One is called or the first one is milk inside a bag of milk inside of milk,

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which is a very short visual novel.

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It's classified as a psychological or visual novel.

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I mean, the it probably takes like 15 minutes to beat.

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You can get it on steam and get it on it.

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It's like really good.

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You're in the perspective of a girl who is going to the grocery store

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to pick up a bag of milk.

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This is a kind of introspective.

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She has like some severe trauma and psychosis.

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It has kicked in.

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describing her going on this trip to the store to buy milk.

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you can respond to what she's saying. You should you can give her directions.

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You can be encouraging. You can be disparaging.

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You know, there's a lot of different things you can do.

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But it's just kind of interesting to see how the way this game was made or not made.

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plays out is very interesting. Sounds cool. Yeah.

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So it's pretty good. It's really, you know, if you just want to try it,

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I think it's like a couple of bucks. It's like 15 or 20 minutes or so.

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It's like a really fun thing.

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The sequel game milk outside a bag of milk outside a bag of milk

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just like plays on the same thing and has higher production values.

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You actually get like cutscene stuff action going on.

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It's like in terms of doing like a point and click adventure game for a little bit.

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That one's probably like an hour to two hours, depending on like how much time

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you spend with it.

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They're just like a really nice story that kind of talks about, you know,

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like a scenario of mental health and what it's like going through that.

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end and it's introspective and interesting.

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And there's like some like very imaginative things going on in it.

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And it was cool. I like individuals are really nice.

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I mean, it is there are like, you know, horror elements to it.

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So if you're not into that, you know, just be worried about that.

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I mean, it's a visual novel. So it's just more it's a visual novel.

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I mean, it's playing in that space, right?

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Space here, I guess, not visually.

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Yeah. But it's it's really cool.

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I've been thinking about it a lot since I played it at Joe thinking milk outside

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a bag, milk inside a bag, thinking about peculiar experience, reality titles.

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It's good. Check it out.

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Well, I guess we can you want to just get into it with Angelica.

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Yeah, we got a lot to get into.

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Yeah, you were like fucking good.

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So they're good episodes.

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We have some good episodes. Yeah, we do.

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I'm so excited for the next ones.

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I can't believe this is the halfway point.

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Yeah, I know. Yeah.

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Forget about silly me in the past.

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That the last episode was our halfway episode.

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Actually, this episode, I'm about to recap is the halfway point.

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Yep. Yep. All right.

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So here we go.

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Take it away.

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Angelic Layer Episode 13 is called the pure white blanche.

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Coyote is smile.

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We open on a snowy winter night where a delivery man delivers

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a gigantic stuffed penguin to a woman who we found out is Coyote is made.

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Apparently, the penguin is from someone in her dad's company.

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And Coyote gets sent things like this a lot.

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Attached to the penguin is an angelic layer egg because I guess this is Coyote's backstory.

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In the bath, Coyote opens the egg and reluctantly agrees to be this angel's mom

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because this angel, like Coyote, is motherless.

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She names her blanche as the OP plays.

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After the OP, we cut to the present.

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Her father has come home and is making breakfast.

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They sit down and eat and her dad tells her that he's going to support her

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at the angelic layer contest, even though he doesn't really get what it is.

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But he is surprised to learn that his daughter likes fighting games.

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Katie says that Blanche is the one fighting and she just supports her as her mother,

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which makes her dad look uncomfortable.

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We cut to the Shoko residence where Misaki is surprised to find Aunt Shoko cooking

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breakfast for Misaki's big day at the tournament.

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While they eat breakfast, Shoko says that if Misaki wins today,

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she can see Shuko because she's going to be going to the site.

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Socky is very excited about seeing her mom and hopes that her mom isn't overworking herself.

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The doorbell rings and it's Kataru, Tamio and Hadoko.

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Kataru introduces himself very formally because he's worried about meeting Misaki's family.

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Misaki introduces the gang to Aunt Shoko and they all recognize her from TV.

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Shoko teases Kataru and Misaki about their date and then her and Tamio do a comedy bit.

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Then they all set off to the tournament.

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On the way, Tamio asks Misaki why she's so happy this morning,

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but Misaki decides to keep the news about Shuko a secret.

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Shoko tells her that if Misaki keeps winning, they're going to meet at the tournament.

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And maybe this isn't the best way to meet your daughter after like five years of being absent,

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but Shuko doesn't seem to understand and Shoko hangs up.

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At the tournament, Misaki is getting nervous, but a helpful Kaede shows up and starts talking to Misaki as Blanche,

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like a puppet, she has like a little puppet voice, and then she smiles and like it's kind of cute I guess.

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Then Misaki tells Akaru that they can see her mom if she wins,

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and we see a no longer smiling Kaede in the distance because she's not going to see her mom if she wins.

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This is my final starts.

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With a reintroduction of all the four remaining contestants,

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we learn that Misaki has a group of kindergartners cheering for her for some reason,

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even though Hadoko is the other kindergartner, but whatever.

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Shuko is being driven to the tournament, but she panics last minute and decides to go back to the hospital.

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At the tournament, the new layer system is revealed to the crowd that projects environments for angels to fight in.

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In the control room, Ichan and Shoko talk about the new system.

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Inada comes in and tells him that Shuko backed out and she can't demo the new system,

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so Ojiro volunteers to demo it with Wizard instead.

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We see the demo where Wizard is like in a canyon fighting a bunch of ninjas or something.

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Ichan speculates that they pushed Shuko too hard during the testing and that's why she backed out,

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but Shoko says that she's just running away again.

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The announcer announces the first match will be Misaki vs. Kaede.

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In the waiting room, Misaki examines Blanche and comments that both her and Hikaru are lightweight types,

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but Blanche feels a little different than Hikaru.

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Kaede explains that Blanche was from the first- was one of the first-

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No, was the first angel sold, sorry, and that she's her mother.

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Misaki says that's cool and she thinks of herself as being friends with Hikaru.

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Shoko comes in and waves Misaki over.

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With her gone, Sai approaches Kaede and says it's too bad that Misaki has a weak point,

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but Kaede says that Blanche used to have it too, but she's gotten over it now.

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In the hall, Shoko tells Misaki that Shuko is going to be too busy working to see her

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and that she feels bad for getting her hopes up.

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Misaki says, uh, it's alright and that she pretty much expected this anyway,

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and then she runs off to start the first match.

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The match begins, but Misaki is looking around to see maybe if Shoko is watching in the crowd.

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I'm not Shoko, sorry.

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See maybe if Shuko is watching in the crowd, but she's not.

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Hikaru and Blanche enter the lair, which is set up to be like a bunch of stone pillars over this misty abyss.

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The match starts, but Misaki is still looking around, and Hikaru has a reminder that the match started.

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The battle actually begins, but Hikaru can't land any hits because Blanche is just as quick as she is.

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The announcer says that only four deities have ever been able to hit Blanche before and that two of them are Hikaru and Sai.

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Misaki is still distracted and Kaede asks her what's up, and then Misaki apologizes.

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The battle continues, and Hikaru is able to finally land a hit on Blanche by vaulting off a pillar and kicking her from below.

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Kaede, however, is not bothered and is smiling the whole time.

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Hikaru lands some more light hits and Katara comments that Kaede seems just fine, like she's letting Blanche get hit.

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Misaki also notices this, but doesn't know what to make of it.

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Sai, Ojiro, and Hadoko all comment that Blanche is accumulating damage, which is going to make her more, uh, powerful,

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because it turns out her gimmick is taking damage and then converting it into powder layer, er, power later,

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by going into hyper mode.

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Blanche goes into hyper mode, and when she does, she glows golden and flies around and she can kick really hard,

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and she slams Akari into a pillar as we cut to credits.

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Bum bum bum.

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Star mode. Like, Super Mario.

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There's so much, like, stuff.

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These two summaries I have are extremely long.

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I added a lot of stuff in there for, like, things that happen in the next episode,

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like, I had to go back and edit this episode to add more things.

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Yeah, Kaede. Freaking fancy pants over there with her.

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Dads. Rich dad.

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Employees sending her toys.

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But no mom.

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No, no mom, which she's very fixated on and real weird about.

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Well, I mean, you know, she's a little mom.

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I mean, I guess, I guess.

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I mean, it is interesting how, like, she focuses on that, but, like,

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Misaki, we have never mentioned anything about her dad ever.

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It is weird.

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It is a little weird.

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You dabs the mustache.

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But you can only have, you know, you can only have so much parent trauma at once, you know.

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That's right.

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Over limited here.

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Kaede's dad.

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Is he the first example of a good parent we've seen on screen?

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I think so.

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He's just like a nice guy.

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He's like, make a breakfast for his daughter.

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He's like, yeah, I'll go to your game.

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I don't really get this game, but I'll be there to support you.

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I guess. Yeah, I guess so.

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Here we go. One good parent on the floor.

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The CEO of a company. Cool.

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So we learned that nationals is the next step after what this is the Kanto game.

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So after this, there's nationals.

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So yes, I mean, Tokyo is huge.

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So they probably just had to divide that greater area a lot more than other places.

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Yeah. Well, they say specifically, like, which prefecture or whatever it was from.

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Yeah, that's like saying, Kaede or from the same place.

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Yeah. OK.

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But as soon as Choco tells Misaki, like, hey, your mom might be there.

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She's just super excited.

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Like she's so excited.

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There's no processing.

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There's like no negative association with your mom or like why.

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No questions.

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Like, oh, why is it going to be there now?

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And because she knows Choco has open communication with her mom.

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Why didn't she just ask, like, oh, hey, can I talk to my mom too?

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Maybe. Yeah, I don't.

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I don't like she knows she's doing something important.

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That's like she knows she's working on something important.

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That's basically the extent of what we get

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about Misaki's feelings about her mom right now. Yeah.

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OK. Can I mention something from the previous scene?

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Yes. Blanche and Kaede.

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Yep. Yep. OK.

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When Kaede and her dad and her maid are all eating breakfast together,

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it pans over to Blanche sitting on a couch on the table that they're eating at.

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Blanche has her own seat at the table.

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Yeah, they're fancy.

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They can afford that.

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It's cool. Oh, boy.

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Yes, I know the scene where Kotaro is all nervous at the door.

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Something is said that I was like, oh, M.G.

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Are they referring to?

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I think they're referring to.

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I don't know if you caught it or not.

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I did not catch this. OK. What?

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OK, so Shoko asked like, oh, how is the date?

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Blah, blah, blah. They're both like, no, it wasn't a date.

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And then Timoia says something along the lines of like, don't worry.

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I'm saving Misaki's first time for me.

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And then Shoko says, no, I want her first time to be with me.

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And I'm like, what?

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There's no way they said that.

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I'm going back. There's no possible way.

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100 percent.

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I said that pulling it up.

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I'm pulling the episode out. Oh, my God.

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Police just said this to me. I was like, oh, my God.

331
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Are they talking about the flowering her?

332
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No, this is not. This is not what it said.

333
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Yeah, it is. It is.

334
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I don't I'm I'm going to stream it to you right now.

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Here we go. OK.

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On the screen. Well, I have the official DVDs.

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So I have the official deal.

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OK, let's see. See. See. OK.

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Yeah, I don't.

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This is on the screen.

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I've got Misaki's first time reserved to myself.

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That's not. Oh, my.

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This is not what I read.

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I do not read this.

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That's what it says. Are you kidding me?

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What are they talking about?

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I've got Misaki cheese first time reserved for myself.

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And then Auntie being like, no, not me. Oh, dear.

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I have to look up what this word means.

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What she say, SciShow.

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I don't know.

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I guess a continuation of the fighting over Misaki

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because she can cook and blah, blah, blah.

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Although, I don't go dig cook in this episode of which

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I was like, Misaki's Josh have like dropped to the ground.

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SciShow beginning outset first onset.

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That clears things up.

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That doesn't help me at all.

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I guess this first time is right.

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Like, there's I mean, there's no way they would say that about a sex thing.

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I know I said this thing. Troubling.

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Gaku heavy last time, but I don't think this show is for real about that.

363
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Clamp is sick and twisted.

364
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That's what we're losing with our deep analysis.

365
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They did make show bits.

366
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Well, yes, boy.

367
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See, last time you clocked it this time I did.

368
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We're on the lookout.

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Awful.

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You've processed.

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But if we wanted to, I mean, I just wanted to take it out.

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Well, in context, it still sounds bad.

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And we know that and show go say in some stuff.

374
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Yeah, questionable things sometimes, you know, crazy stuff.

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So and I guess some more is just the young show go.

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My next note is back to so there's a section where they introduce

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each of the finalists and then I said I would be in the section with

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of size fan girls like all her fans are girls and they're all screaming for sigh.

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I have the nicknames they all got introduced with.

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Yeah, like when they're introduced, they're like, oh, it's this person,

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the blank, blank, blank.

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Yep.

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Yeah, let's hear him.

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Hotoko, the ever victorious goddess.

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This is like a funny thing to have, especially because like,

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we know that she lost to sigh last year.

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And this is her like second tournament, I guess,

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because she was five, so she can't be in that many.

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I had a white angel.

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I think we already knew that Misaki is miracle rookie.

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Which makes sense.

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So I is ice machine.

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Yeah, like everybody else is like this adjective, like like a goddess

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or an angel or a miracle.

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And she's just ice machine.

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And my only note for that is like, you know, whoever gave her this nickname,

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definitely watch Top Gun and was like, oh, ice man's a cool name.

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Oh, please.

399
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So funny.

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OK, and then the kids are they're cheering for Misaki.

401
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I don't know. I guess I don't know if you notice it, but the two

402
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leading it were like the two kindergartners that she first meets in episode one,

403
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where she was watching Angelica Lair for the first time and telling her what it was.

404
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That was that.

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Did they remember her?

406
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Yeah, I think so.

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Nobody else has a dumb ass haircut.

408
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Why are the kindergartners not cheering for Hotoko?

409
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I don't know.

410
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Maybe she's also in Tokyo and a kindergartner.

411
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Thanks to Hiley of herself and like rounds at her peers, so they all don't like her, maybe.

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She probably they probably actually like go to school with her

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and she's like just flipping her hair all the time and saying one liner and one walking off.

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Could you imagine like a time someone talks square with like somebody

415
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who is like currently in a tournament?

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Oh, man, I know.

417
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And then I said, yeah, wizard is cool looking.

418
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Although the demonstration with the like weird ninja angels

419
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was interesting.

420
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They say something when they're introducing the new system,

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which is that the layer they play on in the like the tournament is 10 square meters,

422
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which is big.

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It's really big compared to everything else.

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Like enormous.

425
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Sorry.

426
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Also, the announcer guy, like the guy sitting in the chair doing it, he gets like he pulls out.

427
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Or he's like under his glasses.

428
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,040
Yeah, he's getting microphone stuff went from like

429
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Oh, God, when he's like, hey, we're sending Ojiro instead of Shuko.

430
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And it like the little thing comes out from under his glasses

431
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and he pushes it up back into the rim of his glasses.

432
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It's cool.

433
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,760
Yeah, because he's got like the squirtle squad kind of style.

434
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Yeah.

435
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:54,720
In the flashback with Kaye Day and then them referring to Blanche.

436
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I guess she was older or she's like the first rendition or model of Angel.

437
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Is there I mean, and that's the reason.

438
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:08,120
Well, you would think that maybe for each tournament, it would like require you to use

439
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all the same model or something.

440
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Hold on. I'm going to fill time while Sarah is gone.

441
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I don't have anything to say.

442
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,000
Really need to fill time.

443
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No, it's just my dog was yapping.

444
00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:17,960
It seems weird.

445
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Like it should be regulated what dolls you can use or something

446
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or they should get retired like beanie babies.

447
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,800
It seems like it doesn't matter that much because like we had that scene

448
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in like an earlier episode where like Ojiro was using the newest doll

449
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and she was kicking his ass with like one of the very first dolls that was ever made.

450
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So I have a note that is before the match,

451
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Kaye Day, let's Misaki hold Blanche.

452
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Stop letting your opponents hold your dog.

453
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Misaki almost lost her match for doing that.

454
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Guys, you know that that Madoka cheated.

455
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I've let your opponent hold your dog before a match.

456
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Wait till afterwards.

457
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They're confident.

458
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Misaki is not capable.

459
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I mean, that's fair.

460
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I made a note that how much to Moya was just beaten on Kato.

461
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He should just always have like a black eye or be missing a few teeth or something.

462
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He's tough. He needs to be looking.

463
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He knows just enough karate to make sure he doesn't actually get hurt.

464
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Remember, that's right. That's right.

465
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OK, and then she keeps looking around for her mom at the start of the fight,

466
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which is a nice you yourself.

467
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You want to remember what your mom looks like.

468
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So you wouldn't know if it was her or not.

469
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You dummy. Yeah.

470
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I mean, she just wants it to be like she's so like when Shuka when Shoko calls her out

471
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and is like, hey, Shuka is not going to be here.

472
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Probably a meeting is like, yeah, I pretty much figured my mom

473
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,040
like wouldn't prioritize me or like pay attention.

474
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,120
So that's fine. It's like devastating.

475
00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:42,360
It's so sad. Yeah.

476
00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:47,200
I I would have waited until after the match to tell I would have also waited.

477
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,440
That was not a good call.

478
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,720
Shoko Shoko is not a mom,

479
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,920
even though she's being one than the actual mom.

480
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,160
Like everybody's being more of a mom than Shuka is.

481
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,760
Kaede is more of a mom than Shuka is.

482
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,920
Yeah. Masaki. For real.

483
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,960
OK, and then the fight, Hikaru like Blanche is so elegant.

484
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,680
And then Hikaru is just like fumbling her way through this new arena setup,

485
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,000
like very awkwardly moving about.

486
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,400
The arena setup is cool, though.

487
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,360
Like this is the most it's gotten extremely anime with these environments.

488
00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:21,200
Like running around, punching through rocks.

489
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,040
Yeah. It's cool.

490
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,240
Also, did she sustained damage like she took fall damage at some point?

491
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,080
So that's like a thing, I guess, to be concerned about if you're clumsy.

492
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,080
Like, yeah, because she didn't land on her feet.

493
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,840
And the part where they say that only two angels up to this point have touched Blanche.

494
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,080
So like, Blanche is so cool.

495
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:40,840
It was four.

496
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,560
It was four days as I've been able to touch Blanche, but two of them are here.

497
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,600
Yes, that's right. That's right. My bad. My bad.

498
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,200
I'm assuming the other two are like Ojiro and Shuko or something.

499
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,640
Well, they just saw Ojiro there, so they could have said that's true.

500
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,640
I guess like they doesn't they may have not like none of these people

501
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,400
may have actually faced Shuko before.

502
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,120
Well, yeah, no, they may have not because if she's the champion

503
00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:01,960
and they have to go into nationals, Si was the runner up.

504
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,120
She may have not even ever fought Shuko.

505
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,360
Yeah, then hyper modes that we end on.

506
00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:08,520
Should we go into the next episode?

507
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,960
Yeah. Yeah. No, my dog's big rowdy.

508
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,720
So while you're doing that, I can review and get her to chill out.

509
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:18,520
And Jelly Clare Episode 14 is called I Won't Give Up and Then An Angel Is Born.

510
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,280
We open on each hand, explaining that hyper mode is a bug

511
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:27,520
that allows an angel to that takes over 50 percent damage to act without a limiter.

512
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,160
This budget got or this bug got patched out in later models.

513
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,800
But since Blanche is the first is like a first gen angel, she's still able to do it.

514
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,520
Oh, God asks why they haven't been recalled or why he didn't recall those models.

515
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,800
But each hand and Shuko had too much affection for those first gen models to destroy them.

516
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,320
We cut to the hospital where Shuko is in a hospital bed.

517
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,280
In Nata, who works for each on meets up with the employee who is always with Shuko.

518
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,880
I've looked up her name because she has another Kanji name.

519
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,080
It's Sekiko. I'm going to start calling her Sekiko from now on.

520
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,760
Sekiko explains that Shuko had come back to the hospital

521
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,240
because she didn't make up her mind about meeting Masaki in Nata is shocked

522
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,640
that Shuko hasn't told her daughter anything and comments that if she wins the tournament,

523
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,240
she's going to see her mom in a wheelchair and will know something is up.

524
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,080
Sekiko replies by saying Shuko isn't that strong.

525
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,400
Then we get a flashback, a really important flashback. Here we go.

526
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,840
We get a flashback to Shuko having trouble standing

527
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,880
while a toddler Masaki asks her what's wrong.

528
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,720
We cut later to Shuko leaving in a taxi for a job.

529
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,840
She says, buy the Masaki and says she'll be right back after she finishes her work.

530
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,560
Masaki looks sad, but tells her mom to do her best and that she'll be all right.

531
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,200
As she drives off, young Masaki starts crying.

532
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:39,920
Sekiko's voice over tells us that Shuko had has a disease called degenerative neural syndrome,

533
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,120
which causes interference between her brain signals and her muscle receptors.

534
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,200
So she's not actually going to a job.

535
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,480
She is instead staying at the hospital for a long time

536
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,480
while the hospital like research is to find a cure.

537
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,240
We get a scene in the hospital between Shoko and Shuko,

538
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,560
where Shoko tells Shuko that Masaki is in elementary school now

539
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:02,200
and that she really should call her and tell her that she's like at the hospital instead of like working some job.

540
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,520
But Shuko doesn't want to do that because then she'll know that she lied about working

541
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,440
and she doesn't want to worry Masaki about it.

542
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,760
On her way out, she runs into a young Ichon,

543
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,880
who we learn is a chief designer for a medical equipment maker

544
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,840
and works in research for a degenerative neural syndrome.

545
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,240
We then see Shuko and Ichon running some tests

546
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,680
and we learn that Shuko's condition isn't suited for prosthetics

547
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,680
because they can't she can't control the muscles.

548
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:30,280
But if they can get her brainwaves to interact directly with the prosthetics, she could move around.

549
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,240
Eventually they settle on making a human sized prosthetic.

550
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,080
But at the moment, the best they can do is to use a tiny doll

551
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,960
to move around about the size of an angel.

552
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:45,240
We get some really good montages of Shuko using the like neural helmet

553
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,640
to move around the little humanoid machine on the layer.

554
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,320
Ichon pitches a full size prosthetic to his company's board of directors,

555
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,440
but they all shoot him down because that's really expensive and risky.

556
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,280
A defeated Ichon tells Shuko and Shoko that they won't get any more funding

557
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,000
and that they're out of money for any more tests.

558
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,400
Shoko is ready to call it, but Shuko um,

559
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,880
tells Shuko that she should just go she should just go home and live with Masaki

560
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,040
and that yeah, there are a lot of moms with worse diseases and wheelchairs.

561
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,160
It's not a big deal.

562
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,000
Shuko yells at Ichon, um, saying that because of him,

563
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,720
she had a dream that she could help everybody who suffered like her,

564
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,960
to walk again and all Ichon can do is apologize.

565
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,920
Shuko goes over to the little robot that they've been doing tests with,

566
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,720
which has now been dressed up in like a little dress and a wig.

567
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,920
And she picks it up commenting that she wishes Masaki could have played with the robot,

568
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,000
because she'd always loved dolls.

569
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:41,080
After saying this comment, Ichon is given a brilliant idea and he stops Shuko and Shoko

570
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,200
before they can leave.

571
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,840
Then we get more voiceover saying that Ichon planned to get the money for the research

572
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:51,000
by selling toys instead of getting a grant or however they were getting money before

573
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,960
and passing all of the profits and royalties to the research budget.

574
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,120
After four years, the first angelic layer egg went on sale.

575
00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:03,480
They were a huge hit and Ichon and Shoko would continue research on the full size prosthetics

576
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,560
while they were also releasing stuff for angelic layer,

577
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,800
which I assume is what they've been doing for the past two years.

578
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:12,680
We cut to later where Shoko brings the news that Masaki is coming to Tokyo to Shuko and Ichon.

579
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,760
Shuko tells her that they have to collect,

580
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:20,200
or Shuko tells her that they collected a lot of useful data from the brain waves at the competitions

581
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,120
and soon they should have enough data to make some fully functioning legs work.

582
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:28,360
And she wants to wait until she has those legs working so that when she sees Masaki,

583
00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:31,320
she won't feel useless and Masaki won't see her in a wheelchair.

584
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,400
Ichon then gives a voiceover saying that he decided to meet Masaki at Tokyo Station,

585
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,720
but she was the one who chose to do angelic layer and that none of this was actually destiny.

586
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,880
Then we get a new eye catch, which is like a much cooler scene than we get before that has

587
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,960
both Masaki and Hanako in it and it's really good.

588
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,200
We cut back to the present. The match is happening and Hikaru has been slammed onto some rocks.

589
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,440
She narrowly dodges Blanche and gets back.

590
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,840
Apparently this is unheard of because Blanche usually knocks angels out in one hit if she hits

591
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,880
them in hyper mode. Hikaru and Blanche start brawling, but in a prolonged fight Blanche starts

592
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:08,200
smoking like from her gears or something. Masaki asks Kaede why she's staying in hyper mode if

593
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,840
it's literally breaking Blanche. Kaede replies that Blanche probably is in pain, but that's just

594
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:18,360
the way hyper mode is and goes on the attack. Masaki wonders aloud why Kaede would make her angel

595
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,120
who she considers her child go through such pain just to win a game.

596
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,920
Hyper mode wears off and Kaede immediately activates it again. Katara explains that Hikaru

597
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,680
is low on points and if she takes a few more big hits she's probably going to lose.

598
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:35,240
Masaki is worried because Blanche is outpacing her. She wonders if she should just quit so

599
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,160
Hikaru won't get hurt anymore because after all it's not like she's gonna see her mom if she

600
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:44,280
wins so there's really no upside. Masaki is on the verge of surrendering when Kaede tells her to

601
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:49,560
look into the lair. Masaki does so and sees Hikaru staring back at her and Masaki thinks that

602
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,880
Hikaru still wants to fight. Kaede tells her that she hears Blanche's desire to fight and that's

603
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,600
why she won't quit fighting even if Blanche is hurting. Masaki joins back in and Hikaru gets up.

604
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:04,040
Kaede thanks her and the final leg of the match starts. The battle rages until Hikaru unexpectedly

605
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:09,560
stops and drops her guard and stands before Blanche unprotected. In the control room Ogata

606
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,800
asks why she's doing that and Ojira recalled something Shuka told him about how it's not

607
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,800
the angels fighting but it's the deus' hearts. Blanche launches a kick so hard it blows up a

608
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,880
giant dust cloud. The smoke clears and we see that Hikaru has caught Blanche's kick at the last

609
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:27,400
second then she does a cool reversal and kicks Blanche out or knocks Blanche out winning the

610
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:32,280
match. After the match Kaede apologizes to Blanche for losing and Masaki thanks Kaede for the

611
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,760
encouragement. She says that she felt as though her mother had scolded her and Kaede says oh is

612
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:41,960
that what that feels like? I've never had a mom so I don't know. Which surprised Masaki. Then

613
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,680
Kaede thanks Masaki for giving it her all up until the end and they shake hands. In the hospital

614
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,560
Sekiko tells Shuka that Masaki won and Shuka figured that would happen. Post match Sai asks

615
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,720
Kaede why she didn't attack Hikaru's weak point and Kaede says it's because Sai was the first

616
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,000
one to figure it out and that she should be the first one to do it. Sai resolves to defeat

617
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:04,360
Hikaru and walks off as we cut to credits. Oh man that's a lot. I don't know if I summarize that

618
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:09,480
super well. I got you doing those scripts. I would have been so brief. There's so much

619
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,320
important stuff like I have so many notes just like on the timeline of things that happened in

620
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:18,840
case it wasn't clear. There's so many good small details in this episode. Yeah so we learn a lot.

621
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:25,400
A lot is revealed. The motivations for the creation of Angelica Leia. Get the backstory. We get

622
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:30,920
Shuko's whole deal. Yeah we learn Masaki still had that dumb haircut even as a child.

623
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,240
No you don't say something about it. It looks terrible. It looks even worse than it does now.

624
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:44,440
It looks pretty bad when she's a child. She has like the anime toddler huge head thing going on.

625
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,640
Do you want to start at the beginning where addition one angels get like a secret bonus

626
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,840
hyper mode because of a bug in the code or whatever. Yeah well that Ichon

627
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,920
just can hurt. What they could recall. He didn't recall them because he liked the

628
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:04,520
daisies were essentially innovating. This reminds me of like a speedrun strat. Although I guess

629
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:09,560
if you think about it if this is the actual prosthetics that we're having this and then

630
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,240
they just start smoking and stuff that'd be concerning. Yeah that'd be bad. This is why

631
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:18,840
you test stuff. This is why you field test. Sekiko greets Inada and my subtitles says she

632
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,720
calls him honey so I guess they're in a relationship which is interesting. Also Inada is like the

633
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:29,000
only normal guy because when Sekiko is like oh yeah like she didn't want to see Masaki because

634
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,080
she didn't want her to like see her in a wheelchair and Inada was like wait what Masaki doesn't know

635
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:38,840
anything. She's like no. He's like the only normal person who's like what the hell. Yeah yeah that's

636
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:44,520
so messed up. I mean all of it no actually everybody's questioning it. Everybody thinks this is a

637
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,160
terrible call. Like everybody at this company thinks it's a terrible call. Sekiko thinks

638
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:54,040
it's a terrible call. Ichon thinks it's a terrible call. Everybody thinks this is a bad thing to do.

639
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,600
I know I was gonna say after. But they all go along with it. I guess for the sake of their

640
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:05,880
noble cause. I mean like functioning. Ichon is doing stuff specifically to upset it. Not in like a

641
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,280
direct way but in like kind of an indirect way. But like everybody else is being you know I mean

642
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:15,240
Ojiro hasn't said anything and he could have messed up. I don't know. I don't know. I have some mixed

643
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,400
feelings about that. I get okay because this is what she's been doing and she has been selling

644
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:26,280
money to Masaki. So I guess she is this is her job and she is making some kind of profit off of it.

645
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:31,480
It's true. The big reveal that it turns out the big plot twist where it turns out that Shiko

646
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,280
actually is doing really important work is very funny. It's like kind of funny. I guess it's not

647
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:42,280
a twist. No. It's just a terrible mother. Like knowing all this did not improve her standing as

648
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:48,600
a mother in my eyes at all. Like it just made her selfish. Oh come on. This is like this makes her

649
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:53,480
I'm much more sympathetic to Shiko now. I mean it's still like if this is objectively the wrong

650
00:33:53,480 --> 00:34:00,360
call to make. Yeah. But I'm much more sympathetic to it. This episode did a great job of making me

651
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:05,400
sympathetic to everybody and also make me think that Angelic Layers the greatest thing on earth.

652
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:15,080
Well I was going to say I'm not feeling that much more sympathetic. Oh wow. So I tried to look up.

653
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:21,320
I tried to see like what's going on with Shiko's disease. It's real. Nothing of that like nothing

654
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:27,480
of that name shows up. But the symptoms sound similar to like a less or like a weaker version

655
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:33,960
of ALS where like your muscle neurons get like atrophy so like you can't move your body. It's

656
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:41,720
the thing that what's his face had the scientist guy. Hawkins. Stephen Hawkins.

657
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:48,600
But it's like a similar thing to that descriptively. I mean ALS is like a it continues to get worse

658
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:54,280
over time usually pretty drastically. And in her case it doesn't seem to be as because they

659
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:59,800
mentioned in like in the timeline this is like a four year gap. I guess five year gap. Something

660
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:06,040
like that. And Shiko doesn't seem to get noticeably worse. No because they say like the the lens are

661
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:11,880
totally fine. It's just that the brain and lens connection is. Yeah. Well this is I think what

662
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,680
happens with ALS where it's like your brain function is fine. It's the connection to your

663
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,600
muscles that gets cut off. And because of that your muscles start to atrophy because they're not

664
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:25,800
like moving and stuff. But like cognitively you can I mean I guess there's like versions of it

665
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,760
where you're your cognitive faculties can also decline. But look at you doing the research.

666
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:36,680
Doing the research. Well do you think they like I guess maybe fabricated it to I don't know. I

667
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,600
guess they probably came with the concept of angelic layer first and then came up with a reason

668
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:47,800
for its conception within the story. Yeah. Okay. The in the flashback where she where he's telling

669
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:52,760
her like oh we don't have the funds and she looks at the doll. I wrote the most terrifying looking

670
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:59,080
doll ever. It's so creepy. Oh yeah. The face little thing with the dress and a wig. It's a weird

671
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,720
looking. Well if you look at it it's it literally just looks like a like a little tiny machine and

672
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:07,640
it has like a masculine build as opposed to all the other dolls we see that have like feminine

673
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:12,360
builds. So that's interesting. She doesn't get to move around and stuff. So the timeline in case

674
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,520
my summary wasn't clear this is the timeline. Shuko goes to the hospital. Masaki enters elementary

675
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,840
school. Shuko refuses to call her because she says she's going to be better soon. She's stuck.

676
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,680
And then she started and then Shuko meets each on and they start working together. They start to

677
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,840
move the doll around. What note here is that the helmet she wears progressively gets like

678
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:34,280
lighter. I mean that's how technology is right. Like it's heavy. Well it gets cuter also. Yeah

679
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:39,320
surprisingly they had the little feathers on the side anyways before this is ever branded.

680
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,960
Oh well the very first one doesn't. So the initial helmet the first helmet she wears is just a regular

681
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:49,400
like big huge helmet. But there is a sticky note on it that says angelic notion. So I guess that's

682
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,920
what it's called. The name of the helmet. I'm guessing each hand named the helmet. Then the

683
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,720
second version is the one with wings on it. And then later versions we see when they like convert

684
00:36:57,720 --> 00:37:01,880
into a toy thing. It's like a version of the kind of more headband helmet we see but it's like a

685
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,880
little bit more bulky. So we get some progression of the helmet. But the helmet progression was

686
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,920
happening before they pivoted to toys. So yeah I mean it looked heavy. I guess it'd be strenuous

687
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:16,520
to have on your head. But then okay. So they start moving the doll around with that helmet.

688
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,520
They pitch a full scale prosthetic but it's denied by the company. Then they pitch it as a toy

689
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:25,320
company. Angelic layer goes on sale. This was four years from like the art of this flashback I guess.

690
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:31,240
And then Misaki comes to Tokyo. And yeah they I guess because the dolls like at launch everyone's

691
00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:35,800
going crazy for them. I wonder how many were initially made. And now that people know that

692
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:41,480
that bug was there if they like would sell for a ton of money. After like new iterations of the

693
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:46,520
angel came out and the old ones are limited and have that cool bug with hyper mode. I bet you

694
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:54,040
could sell one for a lot. I guess. Me and my money thinking. Yeah I guess so. Even though this is

695
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,680
like okay listen this flashback is the best thing that's ever happened in the show. Oh my god.

696
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:04,360
Dude this stuff is so cool. Like the fact that we learn there's a lot going on right. I have a lot

697
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,360
of thoughts about this and I'll just kind of in the same place. The fact that angelic layer comes

698
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:14,520
about like as a company because the like very important funding or like the research for these

699
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:19,960
very important research that Ichon and Shuko are doing to like improve people's lives through

700
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,600
projected prosthetics is denied by this company because they don't think it'll make them money.

701
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:30,440
Yeah so instead they have to they have to pivot to selling toys in order to get funding for research

702
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:35,320
is like extremely cool. I mean it sucks because this is like the shit that happens in like actual

703
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,560
life right. Or it's like if you work for a company that makes devices they care about making money

704
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,160
they don't really care about like improving people's lives because that's not why they're there.

705
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,080
Although you know in real life they probably could have gotten like government funding or

706
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,000
something for this maybe. I don't actually know what it is in Japan but like I'm a researcher at

707
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,800
a hospital. This was a very touching backstory to me where I'm like oh man like I want to be this.

708
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:01,400
I want to do this. You want to be Ichon. I want to be Ichon. Ichon's a fucking hero. Like I can't

709
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,960
believe this show is like like playing him off like he's creepy in any way. He's actually just

710
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:11,960
like the best guy ever. He was a real cutie back in the day too. Yeah I mean I see the resemblance

711
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:18,360
so Jiro. Well he shows eyeballs more. But yeah I mean like the fact that this Ichon should have

712
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:23,720
just been a researcher. Like I don't know what the academic situation is in Japan. If it's anything

713
00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:28,120
like here where it's falling to pieces because academia is like a literal hellhole then I understand

714
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:32,520
why he has to work at a company even though he should just have a research job. Disaster.

715
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:39,720
I can't believe it. But I do like this is the best case scenario. Like imagine your funding got cut

716
00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:46,680
off but you have the stuff to pivot into making toys that are all about like equalizing opportunities

717
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:52,120
for people to play with each other. It's like all of these every so far all of these girls we've

718
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:57,480
seen are like being able to like work through their like personal problems and like trauma and stuff

719
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:02,680
through angelic layer. This is like this is so good. It's like you actually made a product that's

720
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:09,000
like legitimately good. You know what I mean. Like did you watch the Barbie movie? Yes. You remember

721
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,240
that part of the Barbie movie where they like bring in the fucking maker of Barbie and they like give

722
00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:17,880
the little speech about this thing and I'm like okay well this I would feel better about this speech

723
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:23,800
if we didn't just have to watch the like board of Mattel fuck around for like an hour. Yeah.

724
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,480
This is like what if that was real? Like what if you actually made a product that helps people

725
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:32,280
because you wanted to help people and not for like some bullshit cynical capitalism reasons.

726
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:38,040
Oh it's so good. Once again capitalism the bad guy. I can't believe they didn't fund this shit.

727
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:45,480
It's so good. I mean I guess in today you would just probably call you know someone influential

728
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,200
who has interest in this thing and have them test it or do crowdfunding or something like

729
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,520
that is how you maybe get it done now. Yeah like your biggest hope now would either to be like a

730
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,520
government grant which like they do. I mean you know like the NIH does like give grants.

731
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:03,400
Okay. In real life if you got this far in like research testing he would get a grant

732
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,920
for this because this is like incredible technology but in this in this world where that

733
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:12,360
doesn't happen. Yeah like I guess it's you hope that a rich person also has this affliction and

734
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,680
they'll fund it because that's the hellhole we live in. Yeah. It's like your access to money

735
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:22,120
for research is limited by like which rich asshole do you have to kiss up to today. It sucks.

736
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:28,600
Good thing you can bring the real world comparisons to the table. It's because I hate it. Like this

737
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:35,160
is like this is what happens. This is what happened. Like the technology that went into

738
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:41,160
making the like RNA vaccines for COVID it was like the same type of thing like the person who

739
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,840
like discovered that method or like pioneered that method just like did it a long time ago

740
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:49,240
and couldn't get any funding and she like didn't she'd like go do something else and then all the

741
00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:53,640
sudden it becomes as soon as it becomes profitable for these big fucking companies that's what it

742
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,320
gets revived or whatever and I think like now she won like a Nobel Prize or something so like

743
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,560
glad that you get the credit that you're actually redo but the fact that it took a pandemic to

744
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:06,360
like realize that people are doing valuable research and it just isn't getting funded because

745
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,840
some fucking rich asshole can't make money off of it just sucks and the fact that Angelic

746
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,240
Blair is all about like hey what if we got around that is incredible. This is the best thing ever.

747
00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:21,560
Yeah. Take note world. Well I guess we can talk about Shuko now right. Yeah. Let's like freaking do

748
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:27,720
it. The thing with Shuko is like her entire like her fear her like overriding fear is to appear

749
00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:33,000
useless right which is like why she's so afraid of seeing Misaki or Misaki seeing her like in a

750
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,760
wheelchair right. This is why she was so like freaked out when we get like the initial start of

751
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:42,200
the flashback which is her like collapsing. Yeah. Like in the kitchen and Misaki comes up because

752
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:48,840
Shuko doesn't want to feel useless but she also can't complete her like asks as a housewife

753
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,840
with her like current condition you know what I mean because like her house is not accessible

754
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:58,120
you know. No. She was not going to be able to do those things and so she like totally retrieves

755
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:04,040
like she goes to this hospital she doesn't tell Misaki why even before she starts doing the research

756
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:11,480
with Ichan she is like very against telling Misaki what's going on and she she her cover is that

757
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:17,400
she's working which is a thing that makes her feel useful or makes her sound useful right because

758
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:24,040
all of this is about Shuko like not wanting to appear useless. I guess. Everything contributes

759
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,680
to that like her she's very excited to work with Ichan is like very like full into it and when he

760
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:33,240
comes and being like oh we ran out of funding she like gets pissed because she's like you were giving

761
00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:38,040
my life worth and like giving me value and making me believe I could actually change and do something

762
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,320
and like now I can't and that's like the worst thing that's ever happened to me

763
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:46,040
which I feel like is pretty sympathetic. I know the worst thing that happened to Misaki is.

764
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:52,920
Yeah freaking mom leaving you. Okay little does she know that her daughter becomes a housewife

765
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:57,480
so she didn't even need to worry about those things. I know she does all of those things

766
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:03,640
that Shuko would have been useful for all of the roles that Shuko would have played. Misaki

767
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:09,400
just adopts right like this is what happens this is why this works so good for me because it's

768
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:16,920
in Shuko's attempt to try to like restore herself she is completely absent for she can't be Misaki's

769
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:23,160
mom because she's not there she's just missing all of these years of her life. You're doing more

770
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:33,240
damage by being gone than yeah you know slightly. It's like tragic. Yep uh yeah I yeah still a bad

771
00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:40,040
mom you know like doing things for the greater good of people who need this technology but as

772
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:46,680
far as a mother is you know you're still gonna be important even if you can't walk. Like she could

773
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:52,120
have met like when the funding goes away Shoko's whole thing is like look we'll just move in with

774
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:57,240
like Misaki will just move here and we'll all live together and Shuko or and Shuko says no but like

775
00:44:57,240 --> 00:45:03,240
they could have done that at any time. Yeah. Like Misaki could have just moved to Tokyo at any time

776
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:09,000
and lived with Shuko and Shoko that would have been fine they could have just done that and like

777
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,000
and they could have done that while Shuko was still working on this stuff like you could get

778
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:18,120
everything you wanted but because you are like so petrified of appearing useless to your daughter

779
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:25,000
you can't do it. It's like it is tragic like this is a thing that feels bad and like I understand

780
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:30,280
why she wouldn't want to do that but damn man like it could have worked. Yeah it can't work he can

781
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:36,760
still work. Yes I just I don't know maybe it's because my mom is so she's like a very hardcore mom

782
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:43,000
like mom is the identity and everything else in the world revolves around that that but whereas Shuko

783
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:48,840
it's like a part of her is a mom but it's more focused about her disability than you know it's

784
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:55,720
more important that she fix that than be a mom to Misaki. So that's selfish. Yeah well it also

785
00:45:55,720 --> 00:46:00,520
sucks because like I want to know like I want I want to get more backstory on Shuko because it's

786
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:05,400
like she becomes like she's a mom and she's she feels bad about not being able to perform the duties

787
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:10,600
of like being a mom or whatever because she's not mobile but like she's a pretty good researcher

788
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:17,240
she should just be a researcher a researcher you know what I mean like is this a like Shuko

789
00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:21,720
could accomplish more than being like a stay-at-home mom and I understand that that's like a somewhat

790
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:28,280
of a gender norm right? I mean she had to have had a job for Misaki for her to use excuse that she

791
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:34,120
had to go for work to Tokyo right so she must have had some job. I mean she's talking to a toddler

792
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,880
you can say anything to a toddler you're not going to be like oh I checked your employment records

793
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:44,280
what job is this like this is what I'm saying it is like is Shuko just like unfulfilled in general

794
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:50,440
probably this seems like a case of unsatisfied with life this was her out she took it and she

795
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,120
doesn't want to go back to being a mom. I don't think she doesn't want to go back to being a mom

796
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:59,080
I think she just like she wants to be useful and she can't stand this is more important to her

797
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:03,560
well this is important stuff I mean this is important it is important although in theory

798
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:11,560
anyone of a similar position could have taken on that role and then she could have gone back

799
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:17,240
and known that is being worked on and still be there for Misaki or just freaking out Misaki

800
00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:22,040
move there. No but like I don't I think I think she still needed to be there to do it.

801
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:27,560
Okay I think the the fallacy here is that she needed to pick one I think she could have just

802
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:33,720
done both but I do think it's sad like you know Shuko's older like she would have grown up in like

803
00:47:33,720 --> 00:47:39,480
the 70s in Japan I don't think women got that much like many options for doing stuff.

804
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:47,880
She looked really young like it seems like like because it's only been what me well I don't know

805
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:54,760
like they make her look really young with the stylings of her hair and outfits or these flashbacks

806
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:59,960
so I wonder if she was like a really young mom when she had Misaki so maybe she just never got

807
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:05,320
to experience life on her own from when she was a kid herself to having a kid and then

808
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:11,000
so this is like her chance to be your own person doing her own thing. Yeah well it's not I mean I

809
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,320
don't think I don't think it's at that as much it's kind of like the like the way she could keep

810
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:21,720
herself from feeling useful was like her role as like a caretaker of Misaki and keeper of the house

811
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:27,400
which she can't do with her condition but she can be a researcher with a condition and that gives her

812
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:33,080
like actual you know that gives her like a meaning. Harbos. She can't go back to doing the thing that

813
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:38,760
she thinks she can't do well but she could you know it's like oh all right it's imagining it in

814
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,640
your mind that you need to be good at a thing and you need to like perform certain types of work

815
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,640
or I mean like I don't know if Shikoku can imagine herself being a mom without like

816
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:52,360
doing the traditional stuff of like cooking and cleaning and all that other things like there is

817
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:59,080
there is a way in which angelic layer like as a game is based on the ideas that you are not

818
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:05,800
constrained by like the restrictions that society put on you right like Hadoko can play angelic

819
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:10,840
layer because you can you do it with your mind and even though she's five or even though she's four

820
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,680
she can still play with other people right whereas nobody would play a game with her

821
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,800
like as an adult if she was a child because that's just not how society operates they wouldn't you

822
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,160
know that'd be kind of disallowed in a certain way even though there's nothing literally stopping

823
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:29,160
you from do that right you could go play games with kindergartners I mean literally stopping for

824
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:37,480
but what I'm saying is that like and in angelic layer like Shikoku is able to move around and do

825
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:45,000
things and like operate at her best like she's able to be the like her most operable efficient

826
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:50,120
version of herself in this way where she doesn't feel like that in her in her life because she

827
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:55,160
feels like a failure as a mom because she can't do the tasks that she's supposed to do even though

828
00:49:55,160 --> 00:50:01,240
like you can be a mom and not do those tasks like it is okay to ask for other people for help and to

829
00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:05,960
like just not be able to do certain tasks that don't necessarily have to be done but because that

830
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:11,080
isn't the ideal like that isn't the what you should be doing that isn't the thing like she can't do

831
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:16,360
the mom things that are like made up by society she feels like a failure we are getting deep

832
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:22,920
here dude angelic layer is all about like breaking through the facade of society

833
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:29,960
and like understanding the core of what people are maybe that's the episode title breaking the

834
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:36,520
facet this is why this is the best thing ever it's great that's right angelic layer is also

835
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:41,240
gonna bring Misaki and shuko together which should have happened forever but they can't because they're

836
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:45,320
all in their head about their what how they should be performing yeah just another life

837
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:52,280
also why it's great improved by angelic layer this is the greatest sport of all time okay do you want

838
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:59,320
to return to oh return to the fight are you tired of me talking about this

839
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:09,240
well one last mom thing while i was still in the mindset of like oh shuko you're still a bad mom

840
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:18,120
i said kaiyayi is a bad mom too for making blance break down and keep going uh dear i have some

841
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:23,400
thoughts about that too okay yeah what the weird mom thing going on there so if you think about

842
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:30,760
what's going on with the dolls and angelic layer and what we learn about how like the impetus of

843
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:35,160
creating these dolls is like a prosthetic it is your brain communicating with a thing that it can

844
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,160
effectively communicate with i'm having a hard time thinking of like what the relationship between

845
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:44,120
deus and angels actually are like i before i was thinking them as like a separate things right it's

846
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,280
like oh it's like an angel it's like a thing that carries out your will but what if it's actually

847
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:53,480
the same thing this is the extension of yourself it's an extension of yourself so like the way

848
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:59,960
when kaiyayi is talking about her relationship with her angel and how she is like the mom to this angel

849
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:04,360
but that's just an extension of herself kaiyayi is being her own mom because she doesn't have

850
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:10,920
a fucking chat oh in the same way that like misaki gets hikaru and she's a user has a friend

851
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:15,480
because she got hikaru when she moved to a city alone and didn't know anybody she became her own

852
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:23,160
friend it's like being able to project the relationship that you desire okay look too man

853
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:28,200
are you gonna write like a thesis on angelic layer it's because this oh dude this is what i was

854
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:32,200
saying i was so high like normally i just like you know i write when i watch it the first time

855
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:36,680
i like pause and do the summaries right i got halfway through this episode and i just let the

856
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:41,400
whole thing play out and just like didn't even like try to make the summary while i was watching

857
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,320
it i ended up watching it three times it's incredible it's so good because all this stuff

858
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:51,640
clicks together like everything clicks into place it's really good that's right yeah so like when

859
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:56,680
when kaiyayi is like yeah like i'll just keep fighting as long as blanche does but it's her

860
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:01,880
she wants to keep fighting kaiyayi wants to keep going but she's saying i hear blanche's voice

861
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:08,280
so she's saying she's hearing voices should we be worried no i mean this but it's her voice

862
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:14,440
she's hearing herself they're not different people they're the same thing really this is what i'm

863
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,760
saying like she's just doing the fucking goku thing where it's like you just want to fight somebody

864
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,760
at their best you just want to have the best fight you can be kaiyayi wants to go all out because

865
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:30,680
she likes going all out i okay so i think this episode the first time we hear that knockout is

866
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:36,280
a way for the match to end because before it's been either time runs out whoever has the most

867
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:42,520
hit points or someone gets knocked out of the layer but not like consciously knocked out

868
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:47,480
but that's something that they stated in this as a way oh is that is that true we've never seen

869
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:53,160
somebody get like knocked to zero hit points before well uh well i think like maybe i don't know

870
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:58,520
not out of health points but just like unable to continue like physically yeah i guess they've never

871
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:05,560
said no they haven't because i guess that is it isn't that what susika does uh i think her kick

872
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:11,400
just straight up just leaves her all her health it's a sick finisher though it's cool how she wins

873
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:17,240
yes i just catches her kick i don't know if you watch this sneak peek for the next episode i can

874
00:54:17,240 --> 00:54:22,920
help myself i did not okay i mean it's gotta be it's hot i'm kind of like i'm a sigh right yeah

875
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,920
that's gonna be sick it does feel like they're using all the animation budget for these fights

876
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:32,680
like we added the background like anime is here this is the show and stuff that's good this is the

877
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:38,200
fighting this is what these now the promotion for the show yeah and i would too it's cool i made a

878
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:43,480
note that i like uh there's like one little scene where oh god to ask the question and then fuji

879
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:49,480
mori's like holding oh god to chi the little doll that iton had named after him as like a punishment

880
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:55,160
thing and she just held him as like a threat to like be better piped down or we're gonna do something

881
00:54:55,160 --> 00:55:00,680
with this doll named after you again like that that doll keeps making like little appearances

882
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:05,720
throughout the show now and then at the end of the fight even kaiyede is calling her masaki chi

883
00:55:05,720 --> 00:55:12,680
tomoyo has like mastered the art of the word of mouth as a promotional platform still nothing on

884
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:17,560
the weakness what any speculation on what it is the same thing blanche has i don't know yeah

885
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:23,480
blanche also has so it has i guess it's just super obvious being tiny yeah like it seems it has to

886
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,240
do something with being a speed type right because that because blanche is also a speed type so it

887
00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:32,920
makes sense and then this will be like masaki's way of overcoming her own insecurities about being

888
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:38,840
small as that she'll learn the car's weakness is that but overcome it and blah blah blah character

889
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:43,880
growth yeah it's good this is why angelic layer owns is because it's like oh what if you had a

890
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:48,120
game that like helped you in real life overcome i mean that's what sports does for a lot of people

891
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,960
right it's like oh you like learn a lot of lessons and about like getting confidence about these sports

892
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:57,720
this is just like literally doing that on the page this is what sports is about i suppose so good i

893
00:55:57,720 --> 00:56:03,880
like this is fun joe loves sports great you heard it here i want to make a company that i want to

894
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:08,920
make a company that sells uh dolls that help people gain self-confidence and also funds my

895
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:14,040
research for helping people that would be pretty sweet and all of my co-workers are like cool and

896
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:18,920
we hang out and we do little jokes we have a we're we know we're halfway through now that we have a

897
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:24,280
different ending credit song it's a different one now yeah we got a new eye catch i mentioned that

898
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:30,680
okay you caught that eye catch i just always like oh this is like where the ad would go okay that's

899
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:39,160
all i have for episode 14 oh hey so good these are fucking banger episodes just the show has arrived

900
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:44,040
i thought i was so worried that like whatever shuko was worried about was gonna be dumb and i was

901
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:49,640
gonna be like oh i gotta deal with this like underdeveloped garbage um like i was so afraid

902
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,240
that this was just gonna be like oh i don't want to be like i'm embarrassed that i'm in a wheelchair

903
00:56:53,240 --> 00:56:57,320
because that's bad but like actually relating that's like she's not embarrassed she's a wheelchair

904
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:01,960
she's embarrassed that she's gonna like feel worthless which is like a completely different

905
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:08,920
thing that is much more relatable yeah it's like i mean i guess as a kid i didn't well also i just i

906
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:14,120
don't know you're you're the thinker of this podcast you're the one who's thinking about these deep

907
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:20,840
things so you're gonna bring you're gonna like make us more credible in our analysis of these shows

908
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:25,240
this is just how i watch stuff now this is this is why this is why when i watch stuff i'm like

909
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,200
yeah this show isn't that good and all my friends are like oh but it's so good and i'm like i don't

910
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:33,000
know man that's happening i don't like it you should just i don't know you need to start you

911
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:39,160
should be you should have your own little review website blog or something oh man unfortunately

912
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:45,640
digital media has lit itself on fire in the last like all of the cool like news sites i would go to

913
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:53,480
that have like opinion columns and stuff like all shut down oh like vice is like dead i just google

914
00:57:53,480 --> 00:58:01,960
or whatever my phone like suggests stories for me it's a lot of persona three related things at the

915
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:08,120
moment is it good well i just i i'm happy to see a lot of our articles saying it's done that they

916
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:13,240
didn't have the female protagonist in it that it feels like a part of it's missing god i like it when

917
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:18,680
things agree with my opinions yeah i mean is it like but is it like fun that i do this or is it

918
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:24,200
like annoying no i think oh that's the whole point of like listening to things right is that maybe

919
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:28,520
you're hearing a different perspective that you can that now that you're aware of that you can

920
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:33,560
determine if you agree or not and then it just needs to think more about your own thoughts on the thing

921
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:39,000
so i think it just promotes more meaningful consumption of stuff so that's what we're doing

922
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:46,600
here we're dead serious but i mean this is like what i was saying like oh we're gonna take this

923
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:50,040
seriously this is like my version of taking this seriously right is like i'm gonna really like try

924
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:54,840
to pay attention and engage with the thing which is like kind of a weird like i didn't do this is

925
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,040
the opposite of what i did in high school like when i was in high school i was definitely that like

926
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:03,880
kid who's like uh the curtains are just blue or whatever when i was like reading books and stuff

927
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:09,640
yeah i know i think as a kid i just skipped descriptor paragraphs all together and books i was like

928
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,960
where's the dialogue where's the things happening part i mean to be fair like i've been thinking

929
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,800
about like why am i into this now and the reason is because like i'm applying this to stuff i like

930
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:22,680
like i'm applying this to angelic layer this like cool anime whereas like in high school it's like

931
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:28,520
you read the rapes of wrath or what like you read bible allegory and i'm like i can't care less

932
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:33,240
about this this means nothing to me i like the count of montecristo because that was about

933
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:37,800
revenge and i am all about that there's some stuff i read in high school it's like fun i mean i do

934
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,800
actually like parts of the grace of wrath but it's like you know having to be exposed to a lot of

935
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:46,520
stuff that's just like this speaks nothing to me i don't care about anna carinata i'm sorry i don't

936
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:53,480
care now that we are halfway through on a scale of one to ten what would you rate angelic layer

937
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:59,480
this last episode was so strong it's gonna color everything else it's in like it's like uh we're

938
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:06,920
in like eight nine territory okay and my anime list uh the score is seven point two six pretty good

939
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:11,800
i rate things pretty low than average just by the way if you think like seven or like eight like when

940
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:16,920
i say like eight nine that's really high it's hard to i mean because when we were going through the

941
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:25,720
openings it was like tough to to rate everything yeah okay well we're halfway there for real this

942
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:29,960
time yeah i'm really excited to get to the rest of it i wonder how they're going to where they're

943
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,640
going to take things from here i don't know how they're gonna keep going for another 13 episodes

944
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:39,720
i know right i'm trying to remember what else there is i want to pay off next week yeah next

945
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:45,960
episode is hitoko versus thigh which i don't recall if they get more than an episode dedicated to

946
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:52,120
that or not like if it'll like bleed into the next one and then whoever wins that misaki will go

947
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:57,160
again so she'll take like another probably two episodes at least and then i don't know i guess

948
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:02,440
we're gonna have rando episodes like the date with kotaro last time peppered in there probably to

949
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:09,880
fill it out but those are good we get good stuff in those oh yeah though we got the whole like

950
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:17,640
maybe tomio's into him what's going on here i know it's so weird because like i'm the person who's

951
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:23,400
watch sojo and you're not you're the one who's much more like buying into everything this show is

952
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:29,880
early i don't know i don't know i'm just very are you surprised cynical now i guess well i'm surprised

953
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:36,120
how i'm how i'm reacting to this no i shouldn't be i shouldn't well we'll see we're gonna watch some

954
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:41,800
garbage at some point you're gonna be like what the hell is this shit uh are you surprised by

955
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:47,240
your reaction yes yeah well it's because it's because we're having like take notes and stuff i

956
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:51,560
think i would have just like watched it and enjoyed it but taking notes then i'm like

957
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:59,720
putting my thoughts of paper and then collectively it's all very negative and except for my admiration

958
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:04,680
for hotoko and sigh that's like the positives of the show i mean to be fair those characters

959
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:10,280
they're so cool they are very cool they're like commenting the whole time on the fight like they're

960
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:14,760
because everybody's in the lair so they're like up there and they're talking to each other i love

961
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:22,520
to talk strategy with a five year old well i think maybe i don't know at what point we would do this

962
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:27,880
at some point once we've done a few series we should have like a where we rank characters based

963
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:35,480
in different categories yeah like uh worst protagonist or like best love interest things

964
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:39,640
like that like and then rank from each series yeah yeah no no that's good that's good i like that

965
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:47,000
um which is so far in the future from now i need to like be patient i haven't even edited last week's

966
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:55,000
episode yet oh boy i'm gonna try to be normal and that takes seven hours to do yeah that's what i'm

967
01:02:55,000 --> 01:03:02,840
gonna try to do no guarantees oh god what's wrong with me should we jump into our last segment

968
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:08,200
yes okay all right well i think we had a good time with these episodes of angelic lair what is

969
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:14,440
some other things you think our listeners could have a good time with yeah uh this week i'm gonna

970
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:22,040
recommend an anime because i don't think i've recommended any anime we love anime here appear

971
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:27,800
as though i watch the anime and recommend an anime on our anime podcast so that's what i'm gonna do

972
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:34,280
and my recommendation is one of my favorite anime's ever which maybe will cover it's more

973
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:42,040
joe say than show joe but it's called chi haia furu and it's a it's kind of a sports anime like in

974
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:48,840
the i guess the format that the story plays out as far as like matches and winning and losing and

975
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:56,840
all that but it's based off this like very old japanese poem card game that's like memorization

976
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:04,520
and speed based where there's like it's like a hundred poems like traditional japanese poems that

977
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:12,440
there's like cards with verses from the poems and there's someone who read out the first half of a

978
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:17,160
poem and then they'll like break and then once they start reading the second part you then have to

979
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:24,920
find that card that poem verse on like out of all the cards that are on the playing field which is

980
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:30,680
like 50 on your sweet no i think it's 25 on your side and 25 cards on their side and you're phasing

981
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:35,640
each other so half the cards you see are like upside down to you um but that's like 50 cards

982
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:41,880
you have to try and remember the placement of and then get it before they get it it's really cool

983
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:48,840
i freaking bought the english translated version of the card that cards that i have that no one

984
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:52,840
wants to play with me no one wants to play a game where you have to memorize stuff

985
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:58,680
i have a lazy family he doesn't want to thank so i don't have anyone i'll bring it when i come visit

986
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:09,000
you joe and i'll force you to play it with me oh god okay it's really it's a great anime it's

987
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:14,920
lovely it's pretty but got you know romantic elements to it but that doesn't overshadow it's

988
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:23,560
like so good it's so good so that's my recommendation uh shihaifuru uh there's three seasons i believe

989
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:28,760
how about you joe what do you have to recommend to our lovely listeners eager for more content

990
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:35,960
while i was playing milk inside of a bag of milk inside of a bag and milk outside of a bag of milk

991
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:40,280
outside of a bag of milk i was thinking a lot about another game that i played that has like

992
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:45,080
aspects relating to do with mental health uh that were like you know for like a different game i

993
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:54,840
want to recommend the rpg oh mori oh that's the dog one right oh shit am i wrong is that okami

994
01:05:54,840 --> 01:06:01,320
okami that's what i was thinking of and mori is a like a horror oh god role playing i mean it's not

995
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:09,320
like or it's like psychological it is one of these uh birthbound inspired games the play is very

996
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:13,080
similar to that has it has some interesting gameplay going on where like a set of status

997
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:18,520
effects is based on your emotional state so you can go from like happy which gives you

998
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:24,280
certain stats that are boosted in certain other stats that are decreased or angry or sad and you

999
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:29,320
can have those like three ste like stages of each of those when they have like a rock paper scissors

1000
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,840
things going on with that and so it's like interesting gameplay mechanics in terms of

1001
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:38,040
like manipulating your emotions for handling certain encounters i think i've seen this yeah

1002
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:42,760
and you're like it's like a little sprite nintendo yeah it released for the internet it released for

1003
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:47,720
a lot of stuff it looks familiar i i think this is fairly popular it's a cool pop yeah like it deals

1004
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:52,600
with depression and like anxiety and like phobias of stuff it kind of goes through little things

1005
01:06:52,600 --> 01:07:04,680
and it's like a story of these four kids um who are reconnecting after some time when one of their

1006
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:10,520
uh something bad happened to them in their youth and so like you play the game as like the flashback

1007
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:15,080
of like what happened where you kind of go through like different uh kind of like fantasy

1008
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:19,960
things where you guys are like playing pretend and some other things and then you have the

1009
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:23,880
aspect of the game that is in like the modern day where you're like more grown up and you're in

1010
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:28,280
like high school and stuff and it's good it's really interesting there's a lot going on here i

1011
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:32,920
think it's like an rpg maker kind of game so like the pixel art is very fun but yeah i mean

1012
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:37,320
that like some parts of it you know it's an rpg and like i'm not the biggest rpg fan of all the time

1013
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:42,040
or of all time because like i get really tired of the repetitive gameplay but the story is strong

1014
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:45,480
enough and like the mechanics are interesting enough that like i got through the whole thing

1015
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:50,840
pretty good so i'd recommend it it's pretty fun nice so check it out it's called a mori when i

1016
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:56,520
think of rpg i don't really think of gameplay or anything i just in my mind rpg means the game

1017
01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:01,080
with the story where choices matter and you can make your character and blah blah blah but i guess

1018
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:05,560
most people probably associate it more with like i don't know becoming encumbered when you pick up

1019
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:11,160
too many things and yeah that stuff is not great like this is why i don't want to replay persona

1020
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:16,280
three at all because i'm just like i hate that gameplay i think the persona gameplay sucks you're

1021
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:21,320
playing what are you playing tactica or something i did start playing tactica how is that is that

1022
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:29,800
good i like it's okay it's like not as interesting as i kind of want it to be i feel like it hasn't

1023
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:35,240
like clicked together mechanically what they want you to do you play persona q you've played like

1024
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:42,120
all persona q did you play more than just the first one oh hell no i don't even beat the

1025
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:48,440
okay okay persona games i wish had fun gameplay but they don't i'm sorry you just do the same

1026
01:08:48,440 --> 01:08:53,080
encounter and then they make you do the same encounter like 10 more times yeah if they could

1027
01:08:53,080 --> 01:09:00,440
change the gameplay i just love the music so good the everything else is so cool yeah they should

1028
01:09:00,440 --> 01:09:07,000
let me play that game without having to do the combat yeah because the combat's not very good

1029
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:12,680
or just a different method of without the dungeon crawler aspect i guess without the like get to the

1030
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:19,080
top of tartarus or whatever yeah morgan like i know it's like a meme of like games or you can

1031
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:23,080
like turn off the gameplay but like honestly they should turn off they should let me turn off the

1032
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:29,080
gameplay for that because it's not good to spend hours doing that it kind of sucks just let me beat

1033
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:35,640
every enemy one time and then that's it do you remember that game kathryn i lent you yeah that

1034
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:41,640
game owns okay because i lent it to you and then you had told me that you had dreams about it like

1035
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:47,240
and then i was like oh my god i had dreams about the block shifting as well i had like the tetris

1036
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:54,040
effect from it like i played they did like a re-release like a like yeah a full body and like i

1037
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:59,960
don't know if that they did some stuff in there and they changed they made listen atlas has some

1038
01:09:59,960 --> 01:10:08,760
stuff going on with lgbt representation um and like trans folk and all that stuff that bad oh yeah

1039
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:13,960
also women not that great but uh moving blocks around and climbing a tower is an excellent

1040
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:19,320
gameplay decision and the gameplay in that game rules even if the story doesn't hold up for me

1041
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:25,320
nope upon a second point i know because that's who's doing persona as well alice like the opposite

1042
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:28,600
i have the opposite experience where it's like i don't really want to explain the gameplay but

1043
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:34,680
not the gameplay let me climb some blocks hell yeah the block the persona gameplay so i'm

1044
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:39,080
oh my god that would be so good if the person i'm going to come back and just be like a puzzle

1045
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:43,800
thing or something that would be better this is why like the visual not like and this is why i like

1046
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,560
zero escape and don't interrupt us like what if you just did some like goofy little puzzles or

1047
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:53,000
like even professor latin do some little puzzles are they good puzzles not i'm stuck at puzzles

1048
01:10:54,360 --> 01:11:00,840
i have to look at puzzles answers see i think we're great i'm glad we started podcast together

1049
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:07,720
we're having a great time but also have very different takes on things oh boy yeah we'll need

1050
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:13,320
to schedule some like playthroughs of a thing together podcast special let's plays or something

1051
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,920
okay we don't have to do that but i do like the idea of like oh we could pre-record it and just

1052
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:21,160
like talk over it okay that's cool that would be cool would you don't have to worry about like

1053
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:26,440
playing and talking at the same time which it feels yeah i suck at that i streamed if i talk

1054
01:11:26,440 --> 01:11:33,640
so hard and play that means i'm gonna play like garbage i don't know how you do it well i'm not

1055
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:40,360
let's see i don't play that many games they're skill based maybe um i don't know i gotta i gotta

1056
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:45,800
start picking up dragon's dogma two and horizon zero don't come out this week oh i gotta play one i

1057
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:53,320
gotta play dragon's dogma one don't do that i'm gonna too bad everybody oh no don't do that

1058
01:11:54,440 --> 01:12:02,200
i tried to play dragon's dogma when it first came out it has shitty like horrible fast travel

1059
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:07,880
that's hard to do so like it's a nightmare and i don't want to play it can't wait for that jank

1060
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:12,520
let's go dragon's dogma two hopefully

1061
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:19,320
please i heard it's good well if you enjoyed this episode of angelic layer where we watched the two

1062
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:27,560
best or the best episode of the show um the please so far five stars on your podcast platform of choice

1063
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:32,840
and like leave a comment or like participate in a poll or whatever else we got going on the thing

1064
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:38,520
if you have uh questions or comments about the show you want to send to us and send it to our

1065
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:47,080
email account at showjopod at gmail.com spelled the same as the title of the podcast so send

1066
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:53,320
send that stuff there and we will get back to you maybe maybe that sounds promising but if you

1067
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:59,720
ask us something dumb i'm not gonna respond sorry if you say something mean we might trash you on

1068
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:04,840
the phone number i'm not giving it to you you tell me about the hot singles in my area i'm not

1069
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:16,360
gonna care oh boy okay um yeah well we we hope you win big at vegas and boys yeah and then

1070
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:23,000
i'm not gonna restrain myself from watching the next episodes all right next time we will be back

1071
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:34,040
with episodes 15 and 16 and 16 yep so look forward to it uh but bye peace out see you don't hand

1072
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:40,440
don't hand blanche over to mesaki either come on stop hitting your dollar learn nothing please listen

1073
01:13:40,440 --> 01:13:45,560
if you can't fund your research by getting grants have you considered starting a toy company

1074
01:13:45,560 --> 01:14:07,640
with the technology that you've developed because maybe there's something there um i just realized

1075
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:13,400
something sister katlyn if you're listening i want you to know that when you pinched me yesterday

1076
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:22,040
on st patrick's day i literally have bruises on my arm from your face i just noticed it on my arm

1077
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:27,320
i was like oh my god this is gonna be the same now everyone's gonna know my sister's a monster

1078
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:43,240
and throw that on bonus content take that oh dear okay uh