WEBVTT 00:00:07.699 --> 00:00:11.039 Hello and welcome back to Illumination, the Disney 00:00:11.039 --> 00:00:13.580 Lurkana podcast. My name is Max. And I'm Sam. 00:00:13.679 --> 00:00:17.960 And we are back at you. This is episode 41. And 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:21.120 we are here to talk about Fabled, the newest, 00:00:21.280 --> 00:00:25.600 ninthest set coming to Disney Lurkana. And we 00:00:25.600 --> 00:00:28.399 are pretty excited about it. It's a pretty unique 00:00:28.399 --> 00:00:32.500 set for Disney Lurkana. So we want to talk about 00:00:32.500 --> 00:00:33.939 it. We want to talk about the things we're excited 00:00:33.939 --> 00:00:35.820 about. We want to talk about the things that 00:00:35.820 --> 00:00:37.899 are a little bit of a letdown. we want to talk 00:00:37.899 --> 00:00:40.640 about some things that we hope to see. Before 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:43.920 we jump too far into that, of course, we're in 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:47.200 the middle of set champs for Return of Jafar, 00:00:47.460 --> 00:00:50.840 the eighth -est set from Disney's Lorcana, and 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:53.799 the team is doing... Pretty good, I would say. 00:00:53.920 --> 00:00:58.020 At this point, we have three top eight finishes, 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:02.780 two top four finishes, and two playmats. So that 00:01:02.780 --> 00:01:05.000 is pretty exciting. Sam, you're one of the playmat 00:01:05.000 --> 00:01:07.420 getters. Yeah, I just got one this past weekend. 00:01:07.659 --> 00:01:09.599 And where did you get this playmat? At Dragon's 00:01:09.599 --> 00:01:12.000 Vault. One of our favorite stores. Yep, my favorite 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:14.099 store. Shout out to Dragon's Vault in Vineland, 00:01:14.140 --> 00:01:16.560 New Jersey. If you're ever out that way, definitely 00:01:16.560 --> 00:01:19.739 worth your time to stop by and say hi. A great 00:01:19.739 --> 00:01:22.359 little shop for sure. Sam, what were you playing 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:25.219 at this set championship? I was playing Amethyst 00:01:25.219 --> 00:01:27.620 Emerald. Oh, I bet you a genius got you onto 00:01:27.620 --> 00:01:30.219 that deck. Oh yeah. Yeah, certainly did. I also 00:01:30.219 --> 00:01:32.680 have been playing Amethyst Emerald. I've been 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:35.480 on it both versions. I started off on the Art 00:01:35.480 --> 00:01:37.579 of Bax version and switched off of it early in 00:01:37.579 --> 00:01:39.780 the format because I didn't like its match into 00:01:39.780 --> 00:01:43.700 Amber Steel and switched over to the Diablo style 00:01:43.700 --> 00:01:46.579 discard variant. Later on the discard, a little 00:01:46.579 --> 00:01:48.859 bit more board presency. And the reason for that 00:01:48.859 --> 00:01:52.040 is because I think that the Diablo deck has a 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:55.560 really good ability to ditch pull the lever so 00:01:55.560 --> 00:01:58.459 that you can set up extremely fast wrong levers 00:01:58.459 --> 00:02:00.980 because you do have to watch out for a three 00:02:00.980 --> 00:02:03.299 or four drop that might be able to dispatch your 00:02:03.299 --> 00:02:05.739 Diablo. And being able to wrong lever their Genie 00:02:05.739 --> 00:02:08.460 or their Peter Pan or something along those lines 00:02:08.460 --> 00:02:11.020 is very, very strong. So I like the fast wrong 00:02:11.020 --> 00:02:14.479 lever. So Sam did indeed play the deck I was 00:02:14.479 --> 00:02:16.419 playing. You had a couple differences in yours. 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:18.400 Neither of us play Prince John, which is one 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:20.439 of the big things that differentiates. the way 00:02:20.439 --> 00:02:23.840 we do it. I play go -go Tamago. You drop go -go 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:28.180 Tamago in favor of Iago. I have an extra Iago, 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:30.900 so I'm playing three Iagos and as well as two 00:02:30.900 --> 00:02:33.780 improvises. Improvise, yes. And we're both playing 00:02:33.780 --> 00:02:38.060 one singular seven drop shift. Ursula in our 00:02:38.060 --> 00:02:41.180 deck. So we can do those kinds of things because 00:02:41.180 --> 00:02:42.500 we're playing a little bit more to the board. 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:45.400 I play go -go for the extra reach in the deck. 00:02:45.500 --> 00:02:48.120 It is the card that I'm the most on and off about 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:50.780 in the build right now. There are some leanings 00:02:50.780 --> 00:02:53.020 towards wanting to move into something like chip. 00:02:53.099 --> 00:02:54.979 I think it's quick thinker, the new chip that 00:02:54.979 --> 00:02:57.020 when it comes in, they have to discard a card. 00:02:57.099 --> 00:03:00.800 I like that into the predominance of blue red 00:03:00.800 --> 00:03:04.219 decks, particularly the DKP style decks. We are 00:03:04.219 --> 00:03:07.520 starting to see more. and more often. I think 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:10.139 there were four of them in Dragon's Vault's set 00:03:10.139 --> 00:03:13.599 champs out of a room of 20 -ish. Yeah. So it 00:03:13.599 --> 00:03:16.219 was not ridiculous, but there was that. It was 00:03:16.219 --> 00:03:18.979 a mix. We're in a pretty flat meta still at this 00:03:18.979 --> 00:03:21.919 point. So anything that you want to play seriously, 00:03:22.099 --> 00:03:24.479 if you are comfortable playing with it, has a 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:26.599 shot. There are some wild brews we've seen take 00:03:26.599 --> 00:03:28.900 home playmats. There are some very standard, 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:32.099 by -the -book style meta decks that we've seen 00:03:32.099 --> 00:03:34.259 taking things home. In my strong opinion, and 00:03:34.259 --> 00:03:36.800 I think in your strong opinion, as well, we would 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:38.919 say play the deck that you're going to make the 00:03:38.919 --> 00:03:41.180 least mistakes playing and that will give you 00:03:41.180 --> 00:03:43.120 the best chance of winning. You can't help your 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:46.000 matchups. I have been getting devastated. I've 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:49.800 had to play so much Amethyst Ruby and so much 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:52.819 Blurple while I have been going through set champs. 00:03:52.819 --> 00:03:54.219 It's been a nightmare. I've been blocking all 00:03:54.219 --> 00:03:56.819 the bad decks for Sam so she can perform better 00:03:56.819 --> 00:03:58.939 than me this set champs. So big shout out to 00:03:58.939 --> 00:04:01.659 the team Illumination folks for doing a really 00:04:01.659 --> 00:04:04.439 good job so far and more weeks of this to come. 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:07.060 more exciting events to jump into and I'm excited 00:04:07.060 --> 00:04:09.500 now that we have a mat for the podcast and for 00:04:09.500 --> 00:04:11.539 the stream. You can check us out on twitch .tv 00:04:11.539 --> 00:04:14.280 slash superilluminalfilms. I can start playing 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:15.939 shenanigans, which is one of my favorite things 00:04:15.939 --> 00:04:17.860 to do during set champs. After we get the mat, 00:04:17.980 --> 00:04:20.100 I can eschew the meta decks and start playing 00:04:20.100 --> 00:04:23.480 with less commonly seen decks and hope to catch 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:25.560 some folks off guard and get some Ws that way. 00:04:25.699 --> 00:04:27.500 Just a lot less stressful and you get to just 00:04:27.500 --> 00:04:29.560 have fun. Yes, so we hope you all have an awesome 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:32.720 set champs conclusion and I hope you all do as 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:34.730 well as you hope. Keep pushing. yourself and 00:04:34.730 --> 00:04:36.350 keep listening to the podcast for more great 00:04:36.350 --> 00:04:40.129 tips. So on to Fabled now. We're talking not 00:04:40.129 --> 00:04:41.610 necessarily review. We don't know what cards 00:04:41.610 --> 00:04:43.470 are in the set yet. We're talking about hype. 00:04:43.629 --> 00:04:46.990 This set is very unique for Lorkana. There is 00:04:46.990 --> 00:04:50.410 a very different way that they are handling things. 00:04:50.490 --> 00:04:54.470 In this set, we are only talking about 33 new 00:04:54.470 --> 00:04:56.389 cards. So what are they doing, Sam? Are they 00:04:56.389 --> 00:04:58.290 just releasing 33 cards? That's all that's in 00:04:58.290 --> 00:04:59.930 the sets? The 33 card set? That's all I need 00:04:59.930 --> 00:05:01.949 to buy? No, we're getting an awful lot of reprints. 00:05:02.410 --> 00:05:05.209 Reprints? What is a reprint? A reprint is going 00:05:05.209 --> 00:05:07.629 to be cards that... we have seen in our previous 00:05:07.629 --> 00:05:10.689 sets so i'm guessing cards that we had in sets 00:05:10.689 --> 00:05:12.410 one through four that are going to be rotated 00:05:12.410 --> 00:05:14.470 out makes sense because if you're not familiar 00:05:14.470 --> 00:05:16.689 with the rotation cycle that is going to be happening 00:05:16.689 --> 00:05:19.750 core constructed will be five to eight sets total 00:05:19.750 --> 00:05:22.870 ever in size which gives you two years on any 00:05:22.870 --> 00:05:26.110 card unless it gets one of these special reprints 00:05:26.110 --> 00:05:28.629 where it will be then again in the game for another 00:05:28.629 --> 00:05:31.490 few years to come so that when the cycle gets 00:05:31.490 --> 00:05:33.990 to eight sets it chops itself back down to five 00:05:33.990 --> 00:05:36.329 with the set that would be a essentially would 00:05:36.329 --> 00:05:38.170 be the ninth if it stuck around. So in this case, 00:05:38.170 --> 00:05:41.310 Fabled, the ninth set. We are looking forward 00:05:41.310 --> 00:05:43.569 to seeing what gets reprinted. It sounds like 00:05:43.569 --> 00:05:46.810 all of the reprints will be in terms of look, 00:05:46.910 --> 00:05:50.649 the same artwork as what was previously available. 00:05:51.129 --> 00:05:53.810 So talking over something they've talked about 00:05:53.810 --> 00:05:55.750 and we've seen a little bit is something like 00:05:55.750 --> 00:05:57.949 Tinkerbell, the giant fairy. We know that that 00:05:57.949 --> 00:05:59.370 Tinkerbell is going to have the same art that 00:05:59.370 --> 00:06:01.209 it always did. If you buy the gift set, you'll 00:06:01.209 --> 00:06:03.589 get a special bordered version a la something 00:06:03.589 --> 00:06:06.160 like the Lilo Escape. artist that is pretty cool 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:09.800 to see coming out and it is cool that if you 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:11.680 get a card in fabled it'll just have the little 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:13.959 nine at the bottom so you'll be able to differentiate 00:06:13.959 --> 00:06:16.100 it that way so if i got a tinkerbell out of set 00:06:16.100 --> 00:06:17.720 one it'll have a little one at the bottom that 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:19.839 is how you differentiate the reprints but you 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:21.980 can still use your tinkerbell from set one in 00:06:21.980 --> 00:06:24.480 core constructed even though set one will be 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:26.639 rotated out the only cards that are truly rotated 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:29.220 out are the ones who do not receive this graduation 00:06:29.220 --> 00:06:31.639 according to the lorecast that's the way they've 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:33.540 been phrasing it i like it so they're graduating 00:06:33.540 --> 00:06:35.259 some of these cards over into the new set. I 00:06:35.259 --> 00:06:37.839 think that helps really stand behind some of 00:06:37.839 --> 00:06:40.139 the designs that they've chosen and some of the 00:06:40.139 --> 00:06:42.120 things that they want the game to do. It really 00:06:42.120 --> 00:06:45.639 helps us learn what the game designers want from 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:47.040 the game. I think these reprints are going to 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:49.600 tell us a lot about how they want Lurkana to 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:52.459 be played and the types of gameplay that they 00:06:52.459 --> 00:06:55.160 really want to see at the constructed level. 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:58.279 So that's very exciting to see. So we have 33 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:01.220 new cards. However, when it comes to the highest 00:07:01.220 --> 00:07:03.939 rarity, that is not a special rarity. We're talking 00:07:03.939 --> 00:07:07.300 legendary. We're going to have six new legendaries 00:07:07.300 --> 00:07:10.199 just out of 33 cards. That's quite a lot, right? 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:12.240 And we're going to have six legendaries that 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:16.680 are returning back from previous sets. So a lot 00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:18.920 to get excited for, a lot to speculate on. We'll 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:20.560 save you from some of that. If you're in our 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:22.379 Discord, you know we've been specking, we've 00:07:22.379 --> 00:07:24.040 been talking, we've been sharing information. 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:26.459 So that's pretty exciting. You can also catch 00:07:26.459 --> 00:07:29.040 us over on Facebook, talking about things frequently 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:31.339 as well. We won't overload your socials. We're 00:07:31.339 --> 00:07:34.009 not much for socials. here. We basically post 00:07:34.009 --> 00:07:36.209 when we need to or something excites us. But 00:07:36.209 --> 00:07:38.230 on the whole, we just like to ingest the content 00:07:38.230 --> 00:07:40.269 the way you do and hope that this podcast helps 00:07:40.269 --> 00:07:43.189 you improve. Talking about the rarities here, 00:07:43.310 --> 00:07:45.189 we have Enchanteds. A little bit of news about 00:07:45.189 --> 00:07:47.889 Enchanteds is Enchanteds won't be redone. So 00:07:47.889 --> 00:07:50.149 I won't have to worry about an Elsa Spirit of 00:07:50.149 --> 00:07:52.810 Winter Enchanted coming out in Fabled. Yeah. 00:07:52.850 --> 00:07:55.370 Because there will just be that particular Elsa, 00:07:55.430 --> 00:07:57.689 which is really exciting. Knowing that these 00:07:57.689 --> 00:08:00.350 Enchanteds are kind of one and dones makes them 00:08:00.350 --> 00:08:02.230 more collectible. So if you're into the game 00:08:02.230 --> 00:08:03.949 for collecting that's something to get excited 00:08:03.949 --> 00:08:06.050 about something else to get excited about are 00:08:06.050 --> 00:08:09.029 some new rarity levels we have epic which falls 00:08:09.029 --> 00:08:11.850 between enchanted and legendary so they're going 00:08:11.850 --> 00:08:13.870 to be open more frequently than an enchanted 00:08:13.870 --> 00:08:16.529 but less frequently than a legendary and they 00:08:16.529 --> 00:08:18.910 have basically a borderless style treatment to 00:08:18.910 --> 00:08:22.110 them above that and above all else now beyond 00:08:22.110 --> 00:08:25.430 enchanted the highest rarity of card we have 00:08:25.430 --> 00:08:28.629 the newly coming iconic which is going to be 00:08:28.629 --> 00:08:30.730 impressive to get these are going to be hardcore 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:32.879 Because you're going to have to open a lot of 00:08:32.879 --> 00:08:35.179 product or get insanely lucky, Charlie Bucket 00:08:35.179 --> 00:08:39.679 style, to get one of these iconic cards. So that's 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:42.779 very exciting to see coming. So there's reasons 00:08:42.779 --> 00:08:45.879 to open packs, even if you've already been a 00:08:45.879 --> 00:08:48.320 longtime stalwart of the game, because there's 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:51.200 some new shiny things to go after. And we're 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:53.600 also getting six enchanted that are going to 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:55.620 be reprints. So six cards that we didn't have 00:08:55.620 --> 00:08:57.519 enchanted before, we're going to get now. So 00:08:57.519 --> 00:08:59.220 I think that's pretty exciting. It is exciting. 00:09:00.139 --> 00:09:02.460 released one of the example of one of these cards 00:09:02.460 --> 00:09:05.000 was a winnie the pooh honey wizard an absolute 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:07.840 fan favorite not necessarily from a playability 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:11.220 perspective but from a delight ability perspective 00:09:11.220 --> 00:09:14.960 so that's pretty awesome to see. So let's kind 00:09:14.960 --> 00:09:16.879 of get into the meat of this because I know, 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:19.940 like all things, when something new happens, 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:24.159 there are a lot of varying opinions about that 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:28.340 thing. So why is this good? Why is this bad for 00:09:28.340 --> 00:09:31.779 the game? In my opinion, I think in Sam's opinion, 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:34.539 as we wrote these notes together, I know I can 00:09:34.539 --> 00:09:36.879 shout out our good buddy Cliff HyperHippo, who 00:09:36.879 --> 00:09:39.480 also shares a lot of these opinions as well. 00:09:39.659 --> 00:09:43.309 There is a lot more good from a decision like 00:09:43.309 --> 00:09:47.570 this than there is bad from a decision like this. 00:09:47.710 --> 00:09:49.950 We'll start with the bad things we could think 00:09:49.950 --> 00:09:53.990 of. I think that part of the feels bad is for 00:09:53.990 --> 00:09:56.210 someone like players who have been there since 00:09:56.210 --> 00:09:59.330 the beginning. Sam, myself, we have everything 00:09:59.330 --> 00:10:03.509 that we need in terms of playable cards for 171 00:10:03.509 --> 00:10:06.590 of these. If we buy a pack of Fable, there is 00:10:06.590 --> 00:10:09.950 a good chance that we could open a booster pack 00:10:09.950 --> 00:10:12.490 of cards that are completely useless. Maybe the 00:10:12.490 --> 00:10:14.690 foil is something spicy, but other than that, 00:10:14.809 --> 00:10:17.429 we could open a pack that is a total dud. So 00:10:17.429 --> 00:10:19.990 it is a lot more of a quote -unquote pack lottery 00:10:19.990 --> 00:10:22.730 for this set than there ever was before. However, 00:10:23.110 --> 00:10:25.830 Ravensburg are clearly trying to incentivize 00:10:25.830 --> 00:10:28.409 collectors of the game to want to buy packs because 00:10:28.409 --> 00:10:30.610 enchanted were difficult to get, but we were 00:10:30.610 --> 00:10:32.710 basically pulling them at a rate which equated 00:10:32.710 --> 00:10:35.250 to about one a case. So one out of every four 00:10:35.250 --> 00:10:37.730 booster boxes. If you are buying them in a case 00:10:37.730 --> 00:10:40.110 quantity, so this is a sealed cardboard box that 00:10:40.110 --> 00:10:42.970 contains the four booster boxes, you are going 00:10:42.970 --> 00:10:44.889 to get an enchanted most likely. Now we have 00:10:44.889 --> 00:10:46.830 other rarities that will incentivize people to 00:10:46.830 --> 00:10:48.850 maybe want to buy a little bit more product. 00:10:48.950 --> 00:10:51.169 If you're a competitive player, you might be 00:10:51.169 --> 00:10:53.470 able to avoid buying a whole lot of the product. 00:10:53.549 --> 00:10:55.549 Maybe you have a friend who is a collector, and 00:10:55.549 --> 00:10:57.649 they'll be able to gift you a lot of these cards 00:10:57.649 --> 00:10:59.269 for very little. Or maybe you just trade them 00:10:59.269 --> 00:11:01.210 one of your fancy cards that you don't need to 00:11:01.210 --> 00:11:03.590 use to play, and you get all of the cards you 00:11:03.590 --> 00:11:06.000 need to play from this set. So there's benefit 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:09.149 to... everybody ingesting and enjoying the game 00:11:09.149 --> 00:11:11.629 a different way. Having the availability for 00:11:11.629 --> 00:11:14.929 people to enjoy things in a different way than 00:11:14.929 --> 00:11:18.309 you do opens up the ability to be able to get 00:11:18.309 --> 00:11:20.649 cards and trade for cards and do things like 00:11:20.649 --> 00:11:23.049 that. Like Sam and I will often trade our enchanted 00:11:23.049 --> 00:11:25.450 cards because we want to trade for cards that 00:11:25.450 --> 00:11:27.269 are playable and we don't want to break the bank 00:11:27.269 --> 00:11:29.450 trying to fill in the gaps that we've already 00:11:29.450 --> 00:11:32.509 broken the bank trying to begin to create. So 00:11:32.509 --> 00:11:36.350 this kind of high roll aspect with the new cards 00:11:36.360 --> 00:11:38.779 collectability can lead to some feels bad. I 00:11:38.779 --> 00:11:40.639 know there are going to be people who are going 00:11:40.639 --> 00:11:43.379 to go on and say, I've bought loose booster packs, 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:46.500 like blister packs hanging up in different stores, 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:49.580 or I've bought non -sequential booster boxes, 00:11:49.720 --> 00:11:52.379 like one at a time ad hoc, and I haven't opened 00:11:52.379 --> 00:11:54.820 anything really good, or I've gotten one Epic 00:11:54.820 --> 00:11:57.259 card and that's it. It's going to create a bigger 00:11:57.259 --> 00:11:59.059 feels bag because we're going to see more pictures 00:11:59.059 --> 00:12:01.960 of carpools. Do not get me started on carpooling. 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:06.000 That will be, oh my God, iconic. Oh my God. enchanted 00:12:06.000 --> 00:12:08.820 oh my god three booster packs two epics and then 00:12:08.820 --> 00:12:12.000 enchanted yes there's gonna be more of that kind 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:14.019 of stuff being shared across social media but 00:12:14.019 --> 00:12:16.620 that is exciting for people it also incentivizes 00:12:16.620 --> 00:12:20.019 absolute maniacs like sam and i to buy these 00:12:20.019 --> 00:12:22.820 loose hangy blisters off of the shelf because 00:12:22.820 --> 00:12:24.799 there's no allocation to them we don't know it 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:26.519 could be an enchanted that one because it wasn't 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:29.100 part of a booster box so it's not a bad thing 00:12:29.100 --> 00:12:31.639 from a sales perspective but it definitely can 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:33.659 create a lot more of a feels bad environment 00:12:33.659 --> 00:12:36.419 that's it i'm out of at things yeah i agree what 00:12:36.419 --> 00:12:38.379 about good stuff sam hit us with some good stuff 00:12:38.379 --> 00:12:40.580 there's less of a need to buy a bunch of product 00:12:40.580 --> 00:12:42.659 to be able to play which you did touch on yes 00:12:42.659 --> 00:12:45.600 with the bad right so for you and i if we wanted 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:48.539 to seek out singles we could just buy no sealed 00:12:48.539 --> 00:12:50.960 product potentially of this set which is pretty 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:53.059 interesting right like what's neat about that 00:12:53.059 --> 00:12:56.230 for me is it offers me a reprieve I can save 00:12:56.230 --> 00:12:58.409 up for whispers in the well now. I don't feel 00:12:58.409 --> 00:13:00.750 like it's just punching me in the wallet trying 00:13:00.750 --> 00:13:03.169 to consistently cash grab. It also means that 00:13:03.169 --> 00:13:05.889 all the money I spent way back means something. 00:13:06.090 --> 00:13:08.610 Yeah, definitely. So it has like this echoing 00:13:08.610 --> 00:13:11.409 value because I get to reuse the old version 00:13:11.409 --> 00:13:14.750 of the card. So I do like that it can help. And 00:13:14.750 --> 00:13:17.789 also remember, one thing to call out too is when 00:13:17.789 --> 00:13:21.289 this game came out, product was very hard to 00:13:21.289 --> 00:13:24.509 get. I mean, I remember early on upon release, 00:13:24.669 --> 00:13:26.289 you and... and I running around seeing the same 00:13:26.289 --> 00:13:30.149 group of additional maniacs trying to get cards 00:13:30.149 --> 00:13:33.289 at Best Buy, Barnes & Noble, local game shops, 00:13:33.629 --> 00:13:37.490 everywhere and anywhere we could go that a booster 00:13:37.490 --> 00:13:40.450 pack had one time sat for any game, we were going 00:13:40.450 --> 00:13:42.590 to knock on the door and ask if they had any 00:13:42.590 --> 00:13:45.169 Lurkana. Camping at Walmart, watching for Winda. 00:13:45.610 --> 00:13:47.269 The person comes to refill the card section. 00:13:47.450 --> 00:13:49.350 You did do that. Yep. You went to Walmart, I 00:13:49.350 --> 00:13:51.529 think, for a week straight to find the person 00:13:51.529 --> 00:13:53.429 who refilled it. And then you did. I did. And 00:13:53.429 --> 00:13:54.830 you had to wait for her to refill the shelf for 00:13:54.830 --> 00:13:56.350 you. Yep. And then there's somebody else who 00:13:56.350 --> 00:13:58.269 came strolling in and you both kind of split 00:13:58.269 --> 00:14:00.450 the lot, which was really cool. Yeah. So a lot 00:14:00.450 --> 00:14:02.929 of newer players can't get access to those cards. 00:14:03.210 --> 00:14:06.029 They're very hard to get even now, outside of 00:14:06.029 --> 00:14:07.909 the recent lottery and things that were done. 00:14:08.070 --> 00:14:11.009 Some singles, stuff like The Wardrobe, for example, 00:14:11.149 --> 00:14:13.529 right? Not to besmirch a good limited card, but 00:14:13.529 --> 00:14:17.059 The Wardrobe. or pack tactics and things like 00:14:17.059 --> 00:14:18.759 that. Sure, you can get those very easily. People 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:20.879 will just give them to you, perhaps. But when 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:23.580 it comes to harder -to -get cards, Rapunzel Gifted 00:14:23.580 --> 00:14:25.879 with Healing, these legendaries that are harder 00:14:25.879 --> 00:14:28.159 to get, especially if you want foils of older 00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:30.600 things, it's difficult. Now it will be easier 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:32.399 to get. Yeah. We personally know some people 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:34.019 who have gotten into the game recently and they're 00:14:34.019 --> 00:14:36.019 just like, I'm not going to buy these older legendary 00:14:36.019 --> 00:14:38.200 cards that cost a lot of money because who knows 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:40.399 if they'll get reprinted or if it'll be easier 00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:42.879 for them to get now. I'm not buying Diablos right 00:14:42.879 --> 00:14:46.240 now. Right. Are you crazy? Except you just did. 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:48.080 I did a little while ago. I made out on that 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:49.740 deal though. They went way up after I bought 00:14:49.740 --> 00:14:52.120 them. I bought them when nobody wanted that poor 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:54.320 Raven. And now look at them. They all want it. 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:56.059 Yeah. I think it's exciting that new people can 00:14:56.059 --> 00:14:58.899 get into the game easily. Easily -er. Yeah, definitely. 00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:01.320 Definitely easily or as bad a good word as ninth 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:05.039 or ninthest. So lots of fake words being used 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:08.139 today on the podcast. Fabled words, made up words. 00:15:08.500 --> 00:15:12.279 We also have cards that can last, which just 00:15:12.279 --> 00:15:15.080 increases confidence of the players. So these 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:17.879 cards lasting. Now I bought this card and it's 00:15:17.879 --> 00:15:20.039 going to get reprinted. And now I have more time 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:22.980 with that card. Adds even more value. It's just 00:15:22.980 --> 00:15:25.840 really good. It also, one of the things I'm most 00:15:25.840 --> 00:15:28.240 excited to see how they proceed with these reprinted 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:30.019 cards. And we're going to talk about this kind 00:15:30.019 --> 00:15:33.230 of transitioning over is what strategy. strategies 00:15:33.230 --> 00:15:36.590 did they want to be good that maybe missed the 00:15:36.590 --> 00:15:39.850 mark or didn't quite have a deck that was strong 00:15:39.850 --> 00:15:43.350 enough to hold its own ground against such strong 00:15:43.350 --> 00:15:46.129 cards like we're talking Prince Johns, Diablos, 00:15:46.230 --> 00:15:49.419 Hiram Flavershams, these absolute... pinnacle 00:15:49.419 --> 00:15:52.759 of power level for this game so far these cards 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:55.179 couldn't compete now they might be able to one 00:15:55.179 --> 00:15:57.139 thing that stands out to me as you say that is 00:15:57.139 --> 00:15:59.899 with purple with moving damage we don't see that 00:15:59.899 --> 00:16:01.860 too too much and maybe that's something they'll 00:16:01.860 --> 00:16:04.320 push i don't know right we've seen a lot of little 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:05.960 cards be able to get that we've seen like the 00:16:05.960 --> 00:16:08.580 four drop panic get that it's not just the bell 00:16:08.580 --> 00:16:10.779 accomplished mystic anymore that can throw damage 00:16:10.779 --> 00:16:13.159 counters around we've gotten a lot more rares 00:16:13.159 --> 00:16:15.679 uncommons things that will willingly deal damage 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:17.940 to your own characters it seems to be the identity 00:16:17.940 --> 00:16:20.960 that Ruby Amethyst is falling into. Self -damaging 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:23.879 for a benefit, which is cool. I'm intrigued to 00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:26.419 see it. So what else do we want to see? What 00:16:26.419 --> 00:16:28.899 do we have to see? What's the card, Sam? What's 00:16:28.899 --> 00:16:31.419 coming? What is it? What's going to be reprinted? 00:16:31.539 --> 00:16:33.559 What do you want? This isn't a guess. This is 00:16:33.559 --> 00:16:36.740 just a want. This is a wish. So for Amber and 00:16:36.740 --> 00:16:39.220 Emerald both, I think we're both looking forward 00:16:39.220 --> 00:16:42.100 to seeing some card advantage get printed or 00:16:42.100 --> 00:16:44.460 reprinted. Absolutely. We're losing Rapunzel 00:16:44.460 --> 00:16:47.559 and Amber. That's a huge thing. We are losing, 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:51.460 I'm not 100 % on Julieta, Madrigal for Amber, 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:53.740 but I know we, on the Emerald side of the coin, 00:16:53.799 --> 00:16:55.720 we're definitely losing Prince John, Greediest 00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:58.759 of All, and Diablo, Devoted Herald, both the 00:16:58.759 --> 00:17:01.639 pinnacle of some of the most unfair cards in 00:17:01.639 --> 00:17:04.890 this game and some of the only Emerald. card 00:17:04.890 --> 00:17:06.910 advantage engines we have. I think right now 00:17:06.910 --> 00:17:08.910 we have a pirate daisy duck that deals with both 00:17:08.910 --> 00:17:11.210 pirates and locations simultaneously, which is 00:17:11.210 --> 00:17:13.869 not enough of a draw engine to support something 00:17:13.869 --> 00:17:16.750 like an entire color identity like emeralds. 00:17:16.750 --> 00:17:19.069 So I'm hoping to see more card advantage absolutely 00:17:19.069 --> 00:17:22.009 in those ink identities. Yeah. In Amethyst, I'm 00:17:22.009 --> 00:17:24.210 really hoping we get the bounce back. So I'm 00:17:24.210 --> 00:17:26.789 hoping we see either a new card entirely that 00:17:26.789 --> 00:17:29.630 bounces or a snake or fox come back. Sure. If 00:17:29.630 --> 00:17:32.029 the cards that are being bounced are less good, 00:17:32.109 --> 00:17:34.009 so for example, a white rose over a... Merlin 00:17:34.009 --> 00:17:36.470 Goat, we could potentially see a bounce card 00:17:36.470 --> 00:17:39.950 come back as long as something in that synergy 00:17:39.950 --> 00:17:42.970 engine is weakened because it is just one of 00:17:42.970 --> 00:17:44.809 the strongest in the game. But that's definitely 00:17:44.809 --> 00:17:46.869 my favorite way to play Lorkana. So I'm really 00:17:46.869 --> 00:17:48.750 hoping we get to see that again. That would be 00:17:48.750 --> 00:17:51.829 lovely. In Ruby, I think we need a board wipe. 00:17:51.950 --> 00:17:54.470 So either B prep stick around or get a new one 00:17:54.470 --> 00:17:56.509 entirely. Yeah, it's interesting, right? Like 00:17:56.509 --> 00:17:58.670 we've seen some cards that have been officially 00:17:58.670 --> 00:18:01.309 or kind of officially spoiled. We saw on the 00:18:01.309 --> 00:18:03.400 side of starter products, there's a powerline 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:06.539 that can shift and sing very quickly, which would 00:18:06.539 --> 00:18:09.240 let a B prep happen like in a snap if you needed 00:18:09.240 --> 00:18:11.559 to, way faster than we're used to, way faster 00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:14.140 even than a shifted Sisu in some cases, especially 00:18:14.140 --> 00:18:16.680 if you combine it with Ramp from Sapphire. So 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:19.700 will they allow something like powerline singing 00:18:19.700 --> 00:18:22.000 be prepared or will they push to a different 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:25.559 style of board wipe? I do think a board wipe 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:28.200 of some effect is going to happen. We've seen 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:30.259 it in other colors a la something like an Under 00:18:30.259 --> 00:18:33.059 the Sea. So I do think that... A board removal 00:18:33.059 --> 00:18:36.019 card of some kind will happen in this game. What 00:18:36.019 --> 00:18:37.680 will it look like? I don't know. Be Prepared 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:39.700 is very iconic for the game. Yeah, because right 00:18:39.700 --> 00:18:42.480 now we're losing both Be Prepared and Sisu, as 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:45.299 far as we know. And Under the Sea. Yeah. So all 00:18:45.299 --> 00:18:47.200 the board wipes right now are getting kind of 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:49.799 sent back to the Stone Age a little bit. So we'll 00:18:49.799 --> 00:18:51.380 see. Oh, and Grab Your Sword's going too, by 00:18:51.380 --> 00:18:53.180 the way. Yeah. In Sapphire, I think we're going 00:18:53.180 --> 00:18:55.579 to need cheap items. We're losing Popsicle. So 00:18:55.579 --> 00:18:58.319 I think all we're left with that we know of is 00:18:58.319 --> 00:19:02.079 Shield of Arendelle. That's a sssss. steel yes 00:19:02.079 --> 00:19:04.220 it's a one cost so yeah and there's like the 00:19:04.220 --> 00:19:07.279 new sword there's a few things not in sapphire 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:10.019 directly that can help or some things that are 00:19:10.019 --> 00:19:13.000 just kind of forgettable but happen to cost one 00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:15.400 i do think that there will likely need to be 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:19.349 some item that hits similar to Popsicle. And 00:19:19.349 --> 00:19:22.930 then last, we have Steel. And I think we both 00:19:22.930 --> 00:19:26.529 want to see some removal songs since we're losing 00:19:26.529 --> 00:19:29.509 our most powerful songs. So what are they going 00:19:29.509 --> 00:19:32.490 to either reprint or what will we see as far 00:19:32.490 --> 00:19:35.190 as Steel removal? I would love to see the concept 00:19:35.190 --> 00:19:38.349 of challenging ready units matter because we've 00:19:38.349 --> 00:19:41.210 had many cards that allow that to happen, but 00:19:41.210 --> 00:19:45.230 we have not had anything really game defining 00:19:45.230 --> 00:19:48.240 with that ability printed. on it it's either 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:50.920 very hoop jumpy or the card is very underwhelming 00:19:50.920 --> 00:19:52.839 like we had a legendary namari that had that 00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:54.599 ability it was underwhelming we had a legendary 00:19:54.599 --> 00:19:56.759 piglet that had it but the condition was very 00:19:56.759 --> 00:19:59.500 hard to meet and i just think that i get the 00:19:59.500 --> 00:20:01.599 concept that they're worried about that being 00:20:01.599 --> 00:20:04.160 very very good because it kind of feels like 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:06.500 i'll play a character and if they can just take 00:20:06.500 --> 00:20:08.279 out my character every time i play when i never 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:10.539 get to play the game i understand the feels bad 00:20:10.539 --> 00:20:13.240 that they are trying to prevent but to introduce 00:20:13.240 --> 00:20:15.920 that even on solo actions that give it till end 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:17.480 of turn and things they feel like they've come 00:20:17.480 --> 00:20:19.839 up they failed at it every possible way they 00:20:19.839 --> 00:20:21.940 could so they either have to back off of that 00:20:21.940 --> 00:20:24.279 existing and just go you know what it was it 00:20:24.279 --> 00:20:26.539 was a failed experiment or they need to step 00:20:26.539 --> 00:20:28.440 up and go okay we're gonna make this a real thing 00:20:28.440 --> 00:20:31.009 now yeah i agree so i'm interested to see how 00:20:31.009 --> 00:20:34.720 that will end up landing in either direction 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:36.900 but i hope to see some sort of move right now 00:20:36.900 --> 00:20:38.599 we're down to basically tug of war and twin fire 00:20:38.599 --> 00:20:40.900 for steel or hot potato like there's not a lot 00:20:40.900 --> 00:20:42.900 of really good options we're losing smash we're 00:20:42.900 --> 00:20:45.019 losing fire the cannons we're losing grab your 00:20:45.019 --> 00:20:46.900 sword we're losing strength we're losing let 00:20:46.900 --> 00:20:50.220 the storm rage on zeus along came zeus all these 00:20:50.220 --> 00:20:53.680 things go away with the rotation so how will 00:20:53.680 --> 00:20:56.599 they choose for steel to damage things like obviously 00:20:56.599 --> 00:20:59.200 we know tinkerbell's coming back so what else 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:01.539 will they put there and how do they want to handle 00:21:01.609 --> 00:21:06.089 the way steel can banish characters. Pretty intriguing. 00:21:06.150 --> 00:21:08.549 I'm excited to see how they tackle a lot of these. 00:21:08.609 --> 00:21:11.470 Only 33 new cards. You have to believe a lot 00:21:11.470 --> 00:21:13.890 of these issues will be addressed via reprints. 00:21:14.029 --> 00:21:16.329 Right. So I do think like if bounce were to come 00:21:16.329 --> 00:21:19.430 back, we'd likely see it on an old favorite versus 00:21:19.430 --> 00:21:23.190 a brand new mechanically different card. So we 00:21:23.190 --> 00:21:27.450 shall see what fabled brings to core constructed, 00:21:27.670 --> 00:21:31.230 what new strategies lie within the ink identities 00:21:31.230 --> 00:21:33.849 we're familiar with and what cards will allow 00:21:33.849 --> 00:21:35.450 us to. Keep questing.