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Welcome, welcome, welcome back to another episode of the Semper Doggen podcast guys.
I am your host Bryce Matthews and tonight I am joined by your co-host Mr. Stephen Basham
and our brother from another mother down in Claxston, Georgia, Mr. Caleb McDonald.
What's up fellas?
How's it going?
Another day.
Basham, you sound a little tired.
Yeah, so I went to a hunt last night and kind of afterwards, you know me, I can never go
to the house on a bad note.
So I think I rode in about 2 a.m. and 5.15 an alarm went off.
I'm just glad to see you're back hunting again.
No, shut up.
He took a hiatus.
And Caleb, I just got ahold of him.
I said, hey, just so you know, I sent the link out for this podcast and then he was
like, oh man, I'm going, I was going hunting.
So we got him pulled over on the side of the road.
He's in his truck.
We'd sit in here to record this podcast for you guys.
So Caleb, thank you for taking time to join us tonight, buddy.
No problem, man, no problem.
Well guys, this is going to be fun and this is going to be interesting because Caleb is
unlike any other guests that Basham and I have had on the podcast before.
Neither Basham nor I have met or spoke to Caleb until right this very second.
Caleb is a guest who was referred to us from a previous guest that we had over at the Deep
and Lonely podcast, Mr. Cavan Collins.
And Cavan reached out to me earlier this week and he said, hey, he said, I got a guy you
need to get on the podcast and sit down and record with.
He said he's got a super cool story.
He said his name is Caleb McDonald.
He said, just, just trust me.
You need to, you need to record this guy.
So I said, all right, I'm always in for it.
And you know, Cavan hooked us up through text message real quick.
He said, Bryce, Caleb, Caleb, Bryce, here it is.
And I said, all right, down and dirty.
You ready to record?
He said, sure.
And here we are.
So this is raw.
This is Semper dogging.
This is just another houndsman.
So Caleb, let's just start off, man.
Give us all the basics because Basham and I, we don't know nothing.
Tell us who you are, where you're from and a little bit about what you do.
Um, I'm actually from Douglas, Georgia, not Claxton.
Oh, that's right.
See, but, uh, South Georgia, just before the Florida line.
I'm only probably, I can be in Florida and maybe a little over an hour.
So we're way down here with the snakes and the Gators and the turning loose when it's
still 95 degrees during the summertime.
That takes a special breed.
Yeah.
I don't like fun at all.
No, we got bad woods, thick woods.
Uh, I don't know.
It's, uh, it really tests your, uh, your will to hunt for sure.
I guarantee it.
I don't think I could do it.
Sounds about like whenever I lived in North Carolina and you had to crawl to the dogs
because the woods are so thick that the briars are so thick that I used to get in trouble
in the Marine Corps because I'd have these cuts all over my arms and they thought that
I was trying to self mutilate myself.
Uh, got a good sharp machete is a must.
You don't have a good sharp machete.
You don't even need to need to leave the truck.
Yeah, man.
I just don't like when I go hunting in places like that, I like to take Basin with me because
he's probably one and a half times my size and I just let him blaze a path.
And then I just come in right behind him.
You know, it works out well.
I couldn't imagine though, hunting somewhere where you've got to take a machete to cut
your way through.
And I know there's a couple of guys that do that, especially down on that East coast.
Um, my buddy, Heath Hyatt, when he goes bear hunting down in the Carolinas, he says they'll
get down there on them bears and they literally have to cut their way into the dogs.
Oh yeah.
I mean, I, I'm not exaggerating.
It really is that rough.
It's that bad.
I've, it's took me hours to go a couple of hundred yards before to get to a dog.
Obviously we try to stay out of those places, but you know how that is.
Turn them loose.
You never know where they're going to end up.
Absolutely.
And so have you grown up hunting?
Like is this something new to you?
Like just give us the background of how you grew up in your hunting background.
Um, always been big hunters, but never coon hunters.
Nobody in my family, uh, coon hunts.
Uh, my dad has been a firefighter for probably going on 30 years now.
And there was a guy working at the fire station that was a coon hunting and, uh, just got
linked up through him and started going a little bit.
That was probably, I'm going to say, shoot, it's probably been close to 15 years ago.
And then I may have hunted for two years or something like that with him and just quit
and life happened, graduated high school and didn't hunt anymore.
And then about two years ago, I picked it back up.
So I've been hunting pretty, pretty hard for, for two years or so, something like that.
Not very long, not very long.
I probably went as much as most people have been hunting for 10 years.
I don't take many nights off.
I love it.
Basham, can you relate with that whenever you're actually hunting?
Easy now.
Easy.
Um, I'm kind of like him in the sense of when I get on a roll, even on the nights that I
don't want to go, I go.
So, you know, I'll, I'll be like, man, I'm not feeling good.
It's kind of like tonight.
You know, I said yesterday, I said, man, I'm tired.
Uh, I'm not going.
And then I went last night and then it worked today.
I'm like, man, I'm not going.
But most likely I would say as soon as we're done recording this, I'll probably step out
back, put a collar on a dog and cut one loose.
I got a few things that happened last night that I'm not too happy with.
So I can't, in my head, I can't sit here in the house knowing that there's an issue that
I need to fix.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Um, my dog's hurt and I just happened to have a puppy at the house.
So I'm literally just going to walk it through the woods.
How bad I have it.
So I got you.
You ain't messing around.
You got it bad.
Yeah.
I got it bad.
I do.
You got it bad.
So what kind of, what kind of dogs are you hunting right now?
Um, I hunt a, uh, male dog for, uh, Cecil Pittman.
Um, he lives down here close to me.
Been a lot of winning back in the day.
Hall of Famer just getting a little older and, uh, had a good dog and asked me if I wanted
to hunt it.
And, uh, anyway, he's a big old male dog out of Cuzz, but, um, he's gonna, he's done a
good bit of winning.
I like him.
He's a, he's fun to hunt.
How old is he?
What's his name?
Uh, Sotilla River switch.
He's, um, he just turned five, I think he's right.
So he's, he's in his prime.
Hopefully that's when I like to get dogs.
If not a little older bash, I'm gonna tell you, I like them geriatric dogs.
Yeah.
I'm not a myself.
I don't have the patience for them.
No, I like, I don't like puppy puppies.
Uh, they get on my nerves, but I like, typically whenever I'm looking for the next thing, I'm
looking for like a 13, 14 month old pup.
That's not been messed with somebody that bought a puppy saying, Hey, I'm going to train
a dog or I'm going to do this.
And then they just let it sit in the pen.
So it got about 13, 14 months old.
Those are the ones that I like.
You've done pretty well with those too.
I mean, you can get those dogs and get them cranking and then turn them around and make
a little cash on them.
I mean, you've done a good job with those dogs.
Remember remember though, Casey, Luke, caribou, Casey, Lou.
Yeah.
She was a good one.
Bryce was a little frustrated with that one.
Bachelor.
Basham calls me.
He says, Hey, he said, I got this dog.
We're going to story time here for just a second.
He says, Hey, I found this dog on pro hound.
He said, it ain't very much.
She said, I'm thinking about just buying it, but I really don't have the kennel space for
it.
And I really don't have anything to do with it.
Really?
He said, it's just a goodbye.
He said, do you want to hunt it if I buy it?
Yeah, whatever.
That's fine.
Send it over.
And I'm not a pup guy and I know this, but at the time I didn't have much to hunt.
So I got this little jip and I took her out kind of same thing.
Just kind of walking around.
She didn't know much and I actually got her to a tree.
Her first coon.
I could remember the woods.
I remember the tree.
Like I was like, oh yeah.
And I sent basham this video.
I'm like, she treated a coon.
But she was a quarter strike dog, dead silent, dead silent.
And I get bored with stuff like that.
I don't like to just sit in the woods and not hear nothing.
I like to hear what that dog was doing, picking around here, moving here.
Oh, the track is getting hotter.
Wham bam.
Thank you, ma'am.
They rolled up on the tree.
That's what I like to hear.
And this dog was just tight mouthed.
So I gave her back to bash them and the rest is history on her.
She was, she turned out to be a nice little hound.
He left out a couple very great details.
So he calls me one night and he says, this dog has got to come back to your house.
And I said, why?
He said, man, I walked this dog into the woods and before I can get to the side by side,
she's already there.
I forgot about that.
Yep.
He said, I grabbed the dog out from under the side by side and I try to get her to go
hunting and I swear she beats me back to the side by side every single time.
I forgot, I honestly, I forgot about that.
I didn't mean to leave that out of the story.
I just forgot about it because she would do that a lot.
And bash him takes her and he gets her, he gets her going.
He's a, Hey, I got this dog cranking.
I'm like, whatever.
He's like, no, I'm for real.
He's like, let's go hunting.
I'm like, okay.
So I'll never forget this night either.
This is probably one of the, one of the nights that I was like almost, I don't want to say
scared, but I was like, man, this is not going to end well for two guys walking around in
the woods.
We turned Casey loose and what was that other dog that almost looked like a pit bull?
Um, he's real short stocky dog.
Uh, it wasn't Bebo.
No, you had another dog.
Is this big male dog?
He looked like a pit bull.
I mean, just muscled up and he had this puny mouth on him.
And I was like, Oh gosh.
And we turned these dogs loose and Casey trees a coon.
And I'm like, okay, did a good job.
And this dog goes into trees of coon.
Well here comes this thunderstorm rolling in.
And when I say rolling, I mean, lightning cracking around us, it's pouring rain.
We're standing in the middle of a swamp and I'm telling you, lightning is hitting around
us.
It ain't far.
And I'm like high stepping it out of there, trying to get out of here.
And here comes this Casey dog.
She rolls up and by God, when we got to her, she had a coon sitting there in the pouring
rain, lightning thunderstorm.
I was like hot dog, hot dog.
I couldn't believe it.
But anyways, that's a little bit on that story.
So Caleb, what made you get back into the coon hunting?
So you're back into it for two years.
So before that, were you sitting around, you're like, man, I'm bored.
Like I want to get back into hound hunting or like walk us through that.
Yeah.
It's kind of funny that you asked that.
Me and my dad were just talking about that.
Even when I wasn't hunting, I always kept up with it.
Was always checking all the magazines, all that kind of stuff.
And I just never, I just never had a dog again.
I don't know, man.
I just don't, I can't even remember where I saw a little dog.
I was Facebook or something maybe.
And I saw a little, little pup kind of like, Bastian was talking about 13 or 14 months
old that nobody had ever done anything with.
And she was good looking.
So I went and got her and she didn't turn it out, but, but she got me back into it.
So it was literally just as simple as I just was on Facebook one night and bought one.
And then here we go.
Hold on.
I got one thing on that.
Is it me?
Am I the only one that you go onto Facebook?
Facebook is the detriment to me because you get on Facebook and someone's selling a dog
and they know exactly which video to put on Facebook.
That dogs up on that tree and just come off and they're saying, Oh, this dog is green
and she don't know much.
And in the back of your mind being a houndsman, what do you think?
Man, if she'll rack them off like that, they must not know what they got.
And then you just got suckered in.
That is called marketing in 2024.
Tell me it don't work.
I don't know.
There's no doubt about that.
That's right.
Do what I'm sorry.
I said, say that again.
You broke up.
Oh, they definitely know how to get you.
They, they, they draw you in for sure.
And then, and then you get it home and you were like, no wonder I got swindled into one
of them deals in October.
Yeah, I got swindled.
I've made it a personal vow to myself that thou shalt not ever buy another hound unless
that person steps in the woods with it.
I'm the same way.
My dad's always been real skeptical about buying dogs on the internet.
I've always just like, let's just go buy this one.
Let's go buy that one.
So anyway, he finally stepped out and we went and bought one probably a year ago or so.
And I called around and kind of got mixed reviews on it, but she had won a ton of money
like state money that year and actually won a state race and all this kind of stuff.
And anyway, I went and bought her and long story short, she didn't stick around very
long.
So yeah, he's through buying dogs on Facebook.
He told me never again, are we ever buying another dog off the internet buys one.
It'll be, you know, we'll be in the woods with it when he buys it.
That was that broken from his internet buying.
Yeah I'm the one and done on that deal as well.
I don't, I don't ever buy dogs.
I've always, ever since I've been hunting, I've either hunted something that somebody
else was done with like, and that's kind of where I kind of got my love for them older
dogs is, you know, people have put them up and like the first dog that I can remember
was Shane Smith.
You know, he's a sponsor of this podcast with Froggy Bottom Outdoors.
I just lived a couple miles from him and I didn't even, I didn't know him.
I didn't know anything about him, but I drew him one night in the hunt and I had this dog.
She wasn't no count, but I just, I wanted to go to a hunt and, and he called me at the
end of that, I don't know about a day later and he said, Hey, he said, I see your passion.
He said, I see what you, what you are wanting to do.
You just don't have the dog power to do it.
He said, I got this old female in the kennel.
He said her name's shine.
He said, she's old, she's gray, but she'll tree coons and she'll, she'll get you into
these local hunts.
I said, okay.
He said, just come get her.
He said, but you know, if anything ever happens, I get her back.
I said, okay, no problem.
And shine is where I found fell in love.
I guess them older dogs, like I said, she taught me how to coon hunt.
Yeah.
I don't know if you're ready for this yet.
This part of the story, but that's, that's like the exact way I kind of got, like I got
that dog and got to wanting to go to a hunt.
And that's how I ran into the guy hunt for was the first cast I ever even entered in
PKC.
Yeah.
We're, we're ready for it.
Tell us a story.
I mean, let's roll.
We don't have a script here.
We just roll.
Yeah.
I was, I had a dog, like I said, it wasn't worth, wasn't worth going to a hunt, but it's
$35.
What the heck, you know?
And I go and I really and truly, I should have won the cast, but I gave it away.
But anyway, Cecil Pittman, he's ledging around here anyway.
And I've always heard about the guy keeping up with coon hunts and all that.
So of course I go to the first time I go to, I draw him and I'm scared, intimidated, all
the good stuff.
And anyway, he beats me.
And after the hunt, he said, Hey man, you want to go pleasure hunting?
I said, sure.
We go pleasure hunting and he basically the same story you just gave.
Hey, I got this dog.
I can tell that you're really into it, but what you're packing ain't going to cut it.
If you want to come get her, you know, be at my house tomorrow.
You can come get it.
And he doesn't know me from, from anybody, you know?
So anyway, I go meet him.
I get this dog and the rest is history.
I've found it for him ever since.
Good thing because I don't know that I don't know that I could ever raise anything up to,
you know, on that level or whatever.
He's got some, he's got some really nice dogs.
Well, isn't, isn't it crazy how life works and stuff like that?
Like you said, you just said he never, he didn't know you from Adam and it was, it was
the same way for me with Shane.
Shane had never met me.
He didn't know anything about me.
And you know, it's just, there's, I don't know.
I guess I haven't been in that position yet where I've been able to look at somebody and
say, Hey, you know, I can help you.
And I, maybe I'm just not at that point in my life yet, but you know, Shane did that
with me and Cecil did that for you.
And it turns into so much.
It's crazy how this works.
You know, that's, this was probably six or seven years ago now that this happened with
Shane and you know, met the guy at local hunt at Hartford city, Indiana, found out
that we just lived a couple of miles apart from each other, hunted his dog for a while.
And then I moved back down to Southern Indiana and he and I just stayed in contact.
You know, we were just buddies and we've always just got along so well.
And, and then he, you know, he joked around with me on a few years ago and he said, he
said, one of these days, he said, you're going to come work for me.
And I was like, ain't no way I'm going to come work for you.
I said, first off, I live four hours away from you.
Like I live down in Southern Indiana.
You live in Northern Indiana.
I said, that's, I said, I'm not moving.
Like, I have no desire to move back up there.
I moved to Northern Indiana once and I ain't doing it again.
I said, I don't like it up there.
And second off, like I don't really know about working for a friend, you know, that can has
its own weird issues sometimes.
And I just kind of blew it off.
Well, guess what?
Me and Basham come up here to a world hunt and on a whim run into my now future wife,
you know, met her up here at the world hunt in Northern Indiana.
Didn't think anything about it.
I still live down South and I live down South for the first year that I, that I knew her.
And I come up here just about every other weekend and she'd come down there.
Well guess what?
Guess who's living in Northern Indiana again now?
Bryce.
He's back in Northern Indiana and it's much better now cause I enjoy the people that I'm
with.
But even when I was living up here, I was still working for a company down there and
Shane's like, he said, up part of the puzzle.
I remember he texted me one day.
He said, he said, part of the puzzle has fell in place.
He said, you now live in Northern Indiana and I blew it off and I blew it off and I
lived here for a year.
And guess what?
Now I'm working for the guy.
And it all started with a guy who saw a younger, a younger kid, you could say early twenties
who didn't have a coon dog and he, he could help out, you know, that's where this whole
thing started.
I was, this has been six years in the making.
You know what the common occurrence to that is, don't you Bryce?
I don't fill me in.
See when you get, when you get to the age where you're not physically capable to really
walk to all the trees, you know, and Shane's getting up there in the age.
He's going to kill you.
It's kind of hard.
You know, he hops out of that truck and, you know, you know, out pops the little Walker
with the tennis balls, right?
Right in front of him.
You know, he needs to find a younger guy like yourself to, you know, chase his hounds.
Oh man, he's going to kill you.
And he hears this one, but it's just funny, Caleb.
It's funny how that works.
You know, it's kind of the same story.
And these dogs, these dogs take us places that I don't know any other animal really
could.
And the people that you meet, it's, it's just, it's great.
Yep.
No, I, at the time too, uh, he was hunting for a I granny back when he had 970 handlers,
but, um, he had a bunch.
Hey, and it, you know, it was kind of, it was cool because it, like when I, when I got
started with him, I literally had been hunting for a few weeks again at this point.
And, um, but the, uh, the learning curve, he shortened it a lot because I was always
around really good handlers, you know, like as soon as I started hunting with him, I'd
go to Ike's and we'd hunt and I'd be, you know, hanging out with Vord and weed and,
and uh, dual and, uh, Oliver and all those guys, you know, and just being around them,
obviously it shortened the curve.
It don't take long getting beat by guys like that.
If you got, you know, half of a brain, you'll start kind of figuring out like, Hey, I need
to start doing what they're doing.
So that, uh, it, it helped for sure.
And uh, I've been, I've been real blessed when it comes to that.
I got to get around some good people quick.
Yeah.
You know, you talk about those, those handlers and, and really, if you look, if you just
look in the competition side of things, like they really are elite, they are at the top
of the list.
And if you added up all the money that those guys, you just mentioned have won chasing
the coon dog around, like it's mind boggling, you know?
And that's one thing that I, I do feel fortunate about is, you know, dual, he just lives, I
don't know, 35, 40 minutes away from me up here.
So he and I hunt together pretty regularly whenever he's not on the road and you know,
he's always keeping three, four, five good dogs in his kennel, you know, usually they're
usually Ike's and, but to get the chance to pleasure hunt against those dogs of that caliber
who are winning on that level, it really gives you a benchmark for the dog that you're totin
and it shows you what you need to do to be there.
And like you said, if you've got half a brain, you'll pick up on a little bit of it, you
know?
Yeah.
It was crazy that I, I didn't have to go through all the, the, you know, pretty much, I mean,
which I've, I don't get me wrong.
I've had my fair share of them, but, but I didn't have to go through all the trying to,
to figure out how to raise a pup and hunt a pup and, and doing it wrong a hundred times.
Like, and I'll probably, and really and truly, I've probably missed out on, on certain things
because of that, but I just kind of got thrown in there with good dogs right off the, and
that kind of, I guess it's good and bad, but I've enjoyed it.
It's a sink or swim type deal, you know?
Yeah.
Ruined.
Yeah.
And that's what, that's what's bad.
As I told Cecil the other day, I said, eventually, you know, go to, go to losing way more than
I'm winning or whatever and you'll fire me and I don't know what I'm going to do then.
I'll be, I'll be up the creek without a paddle for sure.
You know, I've always wondered how that works, you know, like competition, coon hunting and
Basher, you might be able to chime in on this and more than I have, but I'm just going to
throw out my thoughts here.
There's no guarantees in competition coon hunting.
You can be on your game, your dog looking great Monday through Thursday.
And when you go to a hunt Friday and Saturday, you might just catch a bad lick, you know,
two nights in a row.
And if you're playing at the level that, you know, a lot of these guys are playing at where
they're spending 2,500 to $6,500 in an entry fee to catch a bad break is not just like,
Oh man, I, you know, I lost 35 bucks tonight.
Like that's several thousand dollars, you know?
And if you're a handler and you're putting in all the time, you're putting in all the
effort and you're catching these bad breaks, like you said, you go on a losing streak for
a month, two months, and you may, you may be only win, you know, two or three casts
out of the eight or 10 that you enter.
It don't take anybody with no brains to figure out you done lost a bunch of money and that's
coming out of somebody's pocket.
And so at what point is it like, you know, the, I guess I would say like the owner, what
point are you, are you as the handler going up to that owner?
Like, Hey man, I understand, like, I'm sorry.
And if they, if they cut ties, like, do you just have to understand that?
Like is there guilt?
Is there animosity?
Like these are the things that go through my brain.
I don't know.
Like, maybe you two can answer that, but that's my thought process.
What is your guys's thoughts or answers on that?
It's it's a case by case situation.
I think I speak for many of the guys out there that have hunted or other people, every, every
single person I've hunted for is different.
I think when you're talking about the level that we're talking about dual and Michael
ward and weed and all of them, I think there's a level of respect that goes between the handler
and the owner to the point of it's more than just the owner spending money.
It's about, uh, you know, it's kind of the same thing as if, you know, if, if Shane,
you know, you being a salesman for Shane, if Shane sends you out on the road 14 days
in a row to sell something and you don't sell, he sees the work that you're putting in.
Yeah.
You're not getting the results right now, but he's got the belief in you that eventually
that hard work, you'll see the results of your hard work and it'll come back around.
And I think first and foremost, we all know that the owners of these dogs, unless you're
just unless I wouldn't even say unless you're just, you know, going to a lot of them, but
the handler, the owners of these dogs, they're not out for the money.
They're not there.
They're out because, you know, a bass boat costs a hundred thousand, you know, you know,
good fishing rods costs thousands of dollars.
You know, every race cars costs this race car, you know, demolition cars costs that
horses costs.
Everybody's got a hobby and this is their hobby.
It's not about the money.
I think you could talk to Strickland and Oxidine and I craney and you know, we could go keep
going down the list, you know, a Colmig Bay.
And I think they would tell you it's for the love of noon hunting.
It's being in that winter circle, you know, yoder and the bird and I think you could talk
to them and they would just say it's it's the love of the hunting of being in that circle
of being the top of what you do.
It's not about making the money because I don't think no matter what you come out ahead.
So jumping back to your point of when is enough enough, it's really it's really the relationship
between you and the owner and it takes a special relationship to be able to say, hey, I know
you're trying it'll it'll all come full circle, you know.
What do you think on that one, Caleb?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, in my short experience anyway, I'm lucky enough to really good friends with the
guy that owns my dog, so I think that it's added pressure in a way like I want to I want
to win more, almost more for him than I do me if that makes.
But at the same time, I know that, you know, he trusts me or whatever, and it's not like
I'm just out there, you know, just throwing money away.
You know, he knows that he knows that I want to win.
And when we get on a bad streak, I've never, never not one time has he ever, you know,
acted like, you know, you're going to have to tighten up or anything like that, you know,
a lot.
But I mean, but sorry, I didn't mean to catch off her.
Oh, I hunt for another guy a little bit too around here.
He's got a little young dog that's really been making some noise.
And same way with him.
I just told him straight up, I look, dude, if you ever, you know, think, hey, look, I'm
not performing or, you know, I'm not getting the results that you think we should be get.
Just tell me and we'll we'll figure something else out.
But I've been lucky.
Both both of those guys have been really good.
They don't ever really, you know, never really question anything I do.
And I tell them I want to go to a hunt and they say, go for it.
So I've never really, you know, but at the same time, I've been lucky enough to do a
little bit of winning.
So that makes it makes it easier to.
Yeah, it does.
Like, do you ever feel like you ever feel pressure?
You ever just like you have like some weight on your shoulders, especially like when you're
hanging out with a group of guys you're hanging out with?
I mean, man, if you're the new guy into that circle, I know me like I can be with the best
of them, you know, and I can put on a front and I can I can look, you know, like nothing
to bother me.
But deep down, I'm like, man, I'm like, I'm with the best of the best right now.
And I need to be up at their level.
Do you ever feel any pressure?
Absolutely.
Yes.
It's funny because we got a group of guys that all hunt around here and we're all on
this big Snapchat group and I feel more pressure.
I feel more pressure on there than I do anywhere else just because, you know, it's like the
ultimate trash talking.
But now, you know, it's funny because like I'll talk to Brett Denny lives down here close,
Adam Campbell, and you'll talk to those guys about, yeah, we just won thirty thousand last
night or or I've won seven thousand state money this this month or whatever.
And I'm like, Jesus, man, like.
Like a five, you know, like our cast around here, you know, we're talking about the thirty
five dollar hunt a minute ago.
I don't know why South Georgia isn't known more for like a Kuhn hunting Mecca, because
I'm telling you, these cast are ridiculous.
It's like world every night around here is unreal.
I mean, last night, the guy that the other guy was telling us hunt for Kyle Griffin,
he has a little little young dog named Ruby.
I think he said they treat four or five on him.
I think he had like 450 and got beat in our hunt.
I mean, it's just like, I don't know, the competition around here is crazy.
So pressure from friends around here is that it's unreal.
So that opened up another can of worms like let's let's talk about, I guess, social media
in Kuhn hunting, because you kind of hit on it earlier.
You know, you people have dogs for sale on social media all the time.
But then you just brought up the number one, my favorite app of all time, Snapchat.
And I tell you what, if there is a way to make a Kuhn Hunter feel guilty, wake up in
the morning after a night that you did not go hunting and count all the stories that
are on Snapchat of all those other guys that were hunting that night while you were sleeping.
To me, I mean, it kills me because that's probably what 90% of my friends on Snapchat
is as Kuhn Hunters.
And it's almost like an obligatory thing.
You know, like you roll up to a tree and you take a snap and you just throw it on your
story and you don't even have to put any words.
It just so everybody else sees that you're out putting in the time.
Like do you think that social media is playing a big part, like I guess in the, I don't know,
mental state of Kuhn hunting these days?
You're your buddy, Kevin Collins.
I do that.
He makes you feel like such a terrible hunter because he's out every morning till daylight
and then gets up and goes to work.
I don't know how he does it like he does with, and that little old dog, he's got flat trees
of man like, I don't know.
He makes you feel like, like, I don't know.
It makes me feel like such a loser.
Just to be honest.
He sends me snaps all the time.
I'm like, oh, here we go again.
I guess I really don't have that problem because I don't really do too much on the social media
side of it.
You know, I don't have Snapchat.
So the closest I get to it is, is when I get a young dog and I'm starting to get it cranking,
you'll know it because I, every night I'll post a video, I'll post a video, I'll post
a video, even if it's a bad video.
Ask Bryce.
He asked me one day, he says, why do you go live so much?
I said, have you ever noticed that when I put one up for sale, it ain't for sale very
long?
I said, that's because somebody's been following that little dog through the good nights, through
the bad nights.
I don't just post the good videos.
I post the bad videos.
And by the time I'm ready to sell that dog, somebody's already followed it for that long.
And next thing you know, boom, it's gone.
So that's pretty much the closest I get to social media playing a part of my hunting.
So man, this is like, I got so many things that are just rolling off the top of my head.
I love stuff like this because there's no plan.
I mean, it's just rabbit holes.
So like spinning off of that, I'm hunting this little dog right now, wheels, right?
Jeremy Jones owns him.
Jones is hunted for, you know, Roger Shable and all those guys, Russ Beller.
Jones is, he's hunted for some big name guys and he's had some big name dogs and he has
sold some dogs that have went on to do a ton of winning.
But Jones doesn't have social media of any kind.
He doesn't have Facebook.
He doesn't have Snapchat and he's not a super old guy, you know, mid forties.
So but that guy, I could call him right now and say, hey, what's the scoop on such and
such dog and he will have the scoop.
And he'll be like, hey, I'm getting ready to sell this dog.
He's like, yeah, I've already got a buyer lined up.
He's like, you know, big money.
I'm like, how do you do it though without being on it?
Like, how do you do it?
And he's like connections, man.
He's like, I'm a well connected individual.
And so that, I mean, to me that's, it's interesting to me that I would almost a hundred percent
rely on social media, on videos, on pictures, on all that to sell a dog or to buy a dog.
And there's guys who are out there who are still doing it literally through their network.
Like that's interesting to me.
Well see back before social media, Bryce, before you decided that you wanted to pick
up Coon hunting, honest and truly where you bought and sold dogs was the forums, the UKC
forum.
And the, I'm going to tell you, I can not even describe how many dogs back in the day
that I have bought off a UKC forum for little to nothing and turn around and been like,
yeah, there's a little gold mine.
There's a little gold mine.
If you haven't picked up, okay, look, I'm a big, people like to flip cars and flip guns.
I'm a dog flipper.
I have found an addiction into buying a dog for a thousand dollars, $1,200 and then doing
a little bit of winning with it and then finding a buyer.
I mean, Duncan hit the spot.
The one that brought me him that is Epic with me and Bryce.
I mean, I bought him from Chad down in Louisiana for $1,200 and he went on to win some big
things and I still got him now.
So yeah, that's called the UKC forum and the PKC forum, but pro hounds for well, I'm the
exact opposite.
I hate to, uh, if I get one, I like, I hate to sell it.
I'm, I like to hang on to them.
Okay.
I'm glad, I'm glad that you said that because me and Basham have had this talk a bunch and
so is Shane and I, so I'm the same way.
I get attached to something and I'm like, okay, I have put all this time, all this effort,
sweat equity into a dog and they're finally doing something that I like, you know, like
I get attached and so it's hard for me to move something.
Sometimes I get blinders on and I see the dog, I guess maybe for what the general public
doesn't see the dog, if that, if that makes any sense, you know, they might be treading
a few easy Coons and you know, look, I don't know.
Let's just take a started dog.
You know, they could be 17, 18 months old, treat a handful of Coons and you're like,
okay, they're really moving good.
And I think that switch is going to flip just two or three more weeks, two or three more
weeks and then I got Basham or I got Shane in my ego and they're like, dude, that pup
ain't where it needs to be.
Like move on to the next one.
And I'm like, but, but it's so close and I will almost find myself as an advocate going
to bat for this dog as to why I think should stay in my kennel and why somebody else should
not own it because I'm sitting on this little gold mine in my head and sometimes it just,
I don't know, every once in a while the switch will flip and I'm like, okay, I'm done.
What was the dog that that really happened on do what?
What was that male pup?
Oh, Mr. Weatherman.
Yes.
Yeah, I had this, I had this dog, Mr. Weatherman.
And so I think the reason I was stuck on Mr. I called him Mr. And we'll go back into storytime
and guys, I hope this isn't, you know, just Bryce Basham storytime here.
Caleb, I want you to think of a good story here and give us one of your best stories
the in your most recent two years, so be thinking on that, but I'm gonna tell a story on Mr.
Weatherman.
So Mr. is out of the old rebel dog that I hunted for Rocky peace and Rocky, he wasn't
do what?
Basham.
I said, you're welcome.
Yeah.
Basham hooked me up on that one and rebel rebel was an older dog whenever I got him
and I called Rocky and Rocky said, Hey, he said, I don't mind sending you this dog and
I never met Rocky did not know him.
He said, I don't mind seeing this dog.
He said, I want you to know.
He said, this dog is my pride and joy.
He said, I've had this dog for years.
He said, he's been good to me.
He's been good to my family.
He said, I want you to treat him the same way.
He's just getting up there in age.
He said, and you know, he had a younger dog that he was working on at the time.
And I said, that's fine.
I said, I like them older dogs anyways.
And I got rebel.
I think he was eight years old whenever I got him.
And to this day, rebel is my measuring stick.
He's the best dog I've ever had.
And you know, I was hunting him one night down to the local hunt in Princeton and he
was going across an old train trussle and just back in the middle of the woods, just
an old wooden train train trussle.
And he fell through that trussle and he jacked up his back real bad.
That dog never come back to me.
He never come back and he come limping down the road and I could tell someone right.
And I was like, dad, go on next morning, I go out there and he just couldn't hardly walk.
You know, I told Rocky, I said something's wrong.
And I said, I couldn't figure it out.
And I went back and I figured out that's what happened.
He fell through that train trussle about fell about 15 foot and he jacked up his back.
So I ended up sending him back to Rocky where he lived at his days, you know, but I was
very thankful for that.
And they bred him to a coma female.
And that's where I got Mr. From long story, long way around the story.
That's where I got Mr. From.
And I was so attached to that dog because Mr. Looked just like rebel.
Mr. Sounded just like rebel.
He was his clone.
And I was, I was dead set and determined that this dog was going to be the next dog that
I was going to push.
Not just because I liked the dog, but I was like, man, like if I could find a way, if
I could find a way to get this dog on the big stage, it's almost like paying homage
to rebel.
It's almost a way of saying thank you to Rocky.
You know, I was hooked on this dog.
I was set and he just, he just didn't work out, you know, and it took me a long time
to come to realize that.
But that's, that's just one of my, so we laughing at bashing.
I said worthless.
He was, he was, he was a nice show dog.
He had several wins in the show.
Nikki would take him to the shows and God, he'd win everything she put him in.
I mean, he just, he was a looker now, but as far as the Coon training, just wasn't,
he wasn't up to snuff, but Caleb, tell us one of your, tell us one of your favorite
stories.
Oh man.
Oh no, that's, I was talking with some people earlier about having to do a podcast.
I said, man, I hadn't done this long enough to have any cool things to talk about.
I don't, I don't know, man.
Oh, just every night that we hunt down here, something crazy happens between alligators
and snakes and a lot of art or more bloopers than anything.
Plenty of those bloopers make for good stories though.
Oh man.
Man, it would be hard to even put a finger on one.
I don't know.
I'm drawing a blank.
I'm uh, I'll fill in.
I'll pick up your slack because this literally happened last week.
So my boy and I are hunting.
We go down, back down to Southern Indiana.
Oh gosh.
I'm killing myself just thinking about this and it had just rained.
It rained hard.
Wheels got treed.
We pulled down this gravel road and wheels ain't but 50 yards off the road and it looked
like there was some water on the side of the road and it literally just looked like a puddle.
I mean it wasn't crazy.
It just kind of like the water was level with the road and Colton, he stepped off into that.
We both, and I was right behind him.
I mean I was getting ready to follow in his footsteps.
We stepped into what I thought was like four or five, six inches of water.
Nope.
Right up to his waist, buddy.
It was a full blown ditch and I was like half a step behind him.
I was getting ready to be in the same boat, but those are things that I think of that,
I don't know, they just make, like I said, little bloopers.
They make good stories.
Oh no, there's been many a nights.
Not too long ago actually, tried to cross a log in the middle of a cast, late round
actually for a world qualifier events, what it was.
And but I don't know, I made it about three feet out onto that log before I fell off into
12 foot deep water probably.
In water at that.
So by the time I made it back to land, I had been swept probably 20 yards down the, down
the creek and looked like an idiot in front of everybody and all that good stuff.
Kind of embarrassing, but I did win.
So I made it better, but always makes it better.
It better, but yeah.
So Caleb, you've kind of heard us ramble on and tell stories about training young dogs
and you hear Bryce's stories about his measuring stick.
And obviously you jumped into this in a very opportune situation.
You jumped right into it, hunting for a guy that already knew what a good dog was.
Talk to us a little bit about your measuring stick.
Is it the dog you're hunting now?
What exactly has this dog taught you that makes him your measuring stick?
Yeah.
I would say that he's probably the measuring stick.
When I first started years ago with the guy that I was telling y'all about from my dad's
work, he had a blue tick that was super, super accurate dog.
And I can always just remember like every tree we went to had a king.
Obviously I know she missed some, but it just seems like memory.
Every tree we went to had a king.
So I always like, when I start back, I'm going to have a dog that's going to have a king.
And Switch is pretty good about having his coons, but he moves around so good and he
stays out of trouble.
He's not anything flashy, but he's just solid and that's kind of what I like in a dog.
I've been kind of looking for a young dog just to have something.
And man, it's just hard to find something that measures up just because it's so easy.
Because I like to hunt one dog, it's so easy to go out there to the pen and just pick him
out and leave the pup standing there.
Because I know what he's going to do, you know, but.
Oh, that's where we're different.
Ask Bryce what I take with me whenever I go to the woods.
He pulls a dog trailer, Caleb.
He pulls a trailer.
No, yeah, no, I'm a one dog man.
And I like Bryce was talking about earlier too.
I get attached to him, I'm not going to lie.
And hey, me and Switch, we're buddies, man.
He's actually I took him to a hunt last night and he hurt his leg.
So I'm I'm reeling right now.
I don't know what to do.
I don't have a dog to hunt.
And like I said, I got a puppy in the back of the truck and literally just going to walk
it through the woods.
Who knows what's going to happen tonight?
Well, Caleb, make sure that you follow me on my Facebook page.
Steven Bachel.
I'm always got something.
Dude, he looks like the freaking National Lampoon's Christmas vacation.
You go hunt with him.
He got this old Toyota.
I'm just going to tell a story on bashing here real quick.
This has been a lot of stories, but then we're going to get to the main reason why we got
Caleb on this podcast.
So you guys bear with us.
It's coming in.
Anyways, I pull up to Basher's house one day.
He said, hey, I got a lot of dogs for going hunting.
I said, oh boy, he's got this old Toyota.
What is like an 89 something like that?
I don't know.
It's old.
Got a flatbed on it.
Got a dog box, a full sized truck dog box.
You got dog on each side.
No, I mean, you had two on one side, one of the three dogs in the dog box on the truck.
Then he had this trailer behind him.
They had another dog box.
It had like three more dogs in it.
In this trailer has got a toolbox mounted on it with a solar panel or whatever so he
can charge all of his stuff and all these callers that he's got.
And we take off down this road at the time this he just put a new engine in this truck,
but this engine was struggling and we're taking off down the road and I'm in the passenger
seat and I think it took 17 minutes for us to hit 50 mile an hour.
And I thought there was getting ready to be a rod coming out of the side of this block
coming through and taking out my ankles or something.
And I'm like, we are loaded down with dogs.
We had dogs across the country.
We had no side by side.
We have no fuller.
I'm like, Oh my gosh.
And I was like, No, I told him, I just, I told him, I said, Bash them from here on out.
We go hunting.
I said, I don't care if you bring one, maybe two dogs, but that's it.
Cause I'm bringing at least one and that's three dogs is plenty to hunt.
This man will take a trailer.
You ever want to see a circus?
I think that night we walked 13 miles.
Me and Bryce did.
It was ungodly.
It was ungodly, but all right.
So Kevin, Kevin Collins got ahold of us and he said, Hey, get a hold of Caleb.
He said, you know, you got to hear his story.
And he said, the reason you need to talk to him, he said, he just started hunting a couple
years ago and he just won a pretty big hunt.
So Caleb, tell us about this most recent hunt.
You just won down there in Claxton, Georgia, which is where I got screwed up there in the
intro.
So you just want to have in Claxton.
Let's walk us through it.
Um, I don't know if y'all are familiar with Curtis Todd.
He runs that, um, that club there in Claxton.
He's a, he's a, I think what's that name?
Uh, Darlin he hunts the Darlin English female.
I think she's pretty high up in the breed race every year and all that kind of stuff.
Nice dog.
But anyway, um, he'd, uh, he'd been contacting everybody about maybe doing a little bit bigger
hunt for, for us down here in South cause we really don't have, you know, you, if you
look real hard and don't mind driving, you can find a thousand dollar pro classic or
something that you can make it to.
But, but other than that, that's about it for us.
We don't really have any bigger hunts, but anyway, so he come up with this side by side
hunt and, um, 48 dog pro classic and everybody, everybody around the area jumped on it or
whatever and filled it in like a day.
And I actually didn't even have an entry and, uh, I had a buddy that we actually were just
pleasure hunting one night and he said, man, I'm not going to make it to that hunt.
And I was like, man, what in the world?
He said, I got a wedding coming up and I'm not going to be able to make it.
I said, well, I'll tell you what, I'll get your entry.
And I was actually going, uh, to Florida.
I was going to hunt the state hunt, uh, handle the dog for, uh, and, um, anyway, I decided
nah, I'll stick around and hunt this hunt.
And uh, I don't know.
Every time I got to switch, he'd have a cone.
So we ended up winning it.
He looked really good at terrible weather.
We've been flooded for a couple of weeks now.
So was it a two night hunt?
Like was it a pro classic split over two nights?
That was two night hunt.
It, um, had to win obviously, uh, early and late Friday.
And then the final three was Saturday night.
So walk me through that final cast, like, are you nervous going into it?
Like do you know, I got this in a bag.
It was kind of funny, man.
I really wasn't, I really wasn't too nervous or anything.
I, um, I hate the sound like arrogant or whatever, cause I'm the father's thing from that.
But on the way to the hunt, I was like, my dad called and we were talking or whatever.
And I said, man, I just got this, I'm about to go win this side by side.
Like it's not even a, like a question.
Like I just knew I was going to win.
And um, but same time, same note, I was actually, the final three was the, uh, the other guy
that I hunt for Kyle Griffin and his little Ruby dog.
Uh, they made it in also.
So I hunt her a lot.
So I know how dangerous she can be.
So that was kind of, and I didn't not to discredit the other guy, but, uh, I, you know, I never
hunted with him or anything.
I didn't, I didn't know his dog.
But, um, I knew it could be a shootout between those two at least.
And uh, I don't know, man, it just turns out it, it was, uh, like I said, it's flooded.
It had been raining for like three or four days straight.
And uh, I hunt these Okefenokee swamps down here.
So I knew mine, you know, was ready for the water.
And I honestly, I think that was the difference maker.
He just, he don't mind water.
He got through there and he tree cones.
He looked really good doing it.
Bastion, did you have something?
Okay.
You were going to say something.
Okay.
So walk me through like the emotions at the end of that hunt.
Like I want to know.
Um, yeah, like we, we turned loose and I don't know.
I think if you, if you don't get this feeling, you probably shouldn't be doing it.
But until I struck my dog, I don't know that it's nerves or anxiety or whatever.
But as soon as I struck in, I'm fine.
But until I struck my dog, I'm all to pieces.
But anyway, struck under it out of the truck.
He drives in there in less than, I don't know, he probably less than five minutes off the
clock.
He's way in there and tree.
I tree him in and get there and he's got a cone and Ruby actually don't necessarily think
it was any fault of her own.
We just kind of got her, we kind of got in her way and she come back through us and got,
got minused on her strike.
She was struck for 75 and man, that took a lot of the pressure off.
So like at that point, I just kind of settled in.
And anyway, he handled his dog there.
So we, we, we turned back loose and the, the other dog covered switch on that tree.
So turn back loose.
And of course I'm going to switch to go lay down somewhere.
We got a big lead and he fires right out there and strikes a red hot track only dog bark
and I have to strike him for a hundred.
So I'm kind of like, man, I really didn't want to, you know, I really didn't want to
take a hundred straight there.
And then, uh, shortly after that, we start tightening up on dogs.
We stopped listening to judge kind of looks over at me and I'm thinking, man, I just can
hear him.
But sure enough judge hears him puts the six on me, starts stationary.
So then the nerves really are working because I'm, you know, I'm sitting here to 25 and
I could give it, you know, everything, all my whole lead right here, I could give it
right back.
Um, get in there and he's got that thing.
So that, I think we had like 20 minutes left, but that, you know, put me at four 50 and
closest dog to me had a like 25 minus or something like that.
So at that point, pretty much all the nerves were gone.
It was just kind of, holy crap, we won, you know?
Yeah.
So like, how does that work?
Do you, do you get the side by side that night?
Like do you trailer it?
Like, how does that work?
I want to know the process.
Well, Curtis is the one that kind of set all that up, right?
You know, he, he, he handled the hunt.
He handled the getting the side by side and all that.
Well, his wife has a baby, um, Thursday night, so he's not there.
So anyway, his, his, uh, buddy or whatever is running the hunt and, uh, I'll be in and
they're like, Hey man, we'll find a trailer.
We'll load it up and you just bring the trailer back.
And I'm kind of sitting there thinking like, man, like I'm going to have to pay like sales
tax and stuff on this thing.
And, and, and something, and they were kind of like, Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
So anyway, luckily we're, uh, we're in the, uh, into some farming and stuff.
So I got gate card, uh, took care of the sales tax.
So only thing I got in that side by side is the $350 entry fee.
So it was pretty good deal.
That is awesome.
Have you been hunting off of it?
Yeah.
You know, what's funny is I took it home and, um, I took it hunting one night, took it back
home and my wife and little boy have been on it ever since.
So no, I hadn't got to hunt off that much.
It's not yours anymore.
No, it's not mine.
But I mean, luckily we have another one, which I say that is tore up right now from, from
all these rough woods and all that, but I'll get it fixed.
I'll just keep hunting off the old one.
Let them, let them have the new one, I guess.
Man, them side by side, they're a game changer in the right, I guess in the right area.
So when I lived in Southern Indiana, I had my side by side and I loved it.
I hunted off of it religiously.
I mean, it was like, it was like the best tool I had in my toolbox, you know, you could
just do so much work.
You could train dogs, you could get to pups, you could save.
I mean, everybody's knees only have so many cycles.
I don't know if everybody knows that, but that's what I say all the time.
These knees only got so many cycles and that side by side, it really saves those things.
You know, they're great, but like up here where I live now, I just don't have nowhere
to hardly ride it.
So it's, it sits in the barn more than anything because everything up here is state ground
and you can't ride them on state ground.
There's no gravel roads or nothing.
It's all paved roads up here.
So if you're trying to get to a woods, it's just tearing a daylights out of the tires.
You're going through tires like crazy.
You know, it's just, I don't know up here, it's not as big of a tool as it was down home.
So I've actually, I've been trying to sell mine for a while and then I'm like, man, like
if somebody really does buy it, now I'm going to be like a little upset because like I use
it for just a little piddly stuff sometimes, but I just can't hardly justify it up here
anymore.
So in the right area, man, those things are, they're fantastic.
You can't beat them.
So I like full willer where I hunt at.
I like my full willer.
I can get it.
I can put a one dog.
Yes.
A one dog box on the back of the full willer and I can get around the woods a whole lot
better.
Yeah.
What were you saying, Caleb?
It's kind of, it's kind of that way here.
I mean, you can hunt off of it, but our woods are so bad.
I mean, you're going to, you're going to have to walk, you know, you can't really drive
it through the woods or anything, but no, that's why I love to, that's why I love to
hit those hunts up North man.
Y'all, y'all don't know how blessed y'all are.
Yeah.
What was the name of that?
Was it, was it, was that the, uh, the PKC rattlesnake roundup?
Was that what that was?
Yep.
Awesome.
That's what they named it, but yeah, rattlesnake roundup.
Well, so how many rattlesnakes did y'all round up?
You know, it's funny, a quick story about where that gets its name from down here.
A rattlesnake roundup used to be like this huge thing.
You would, you would hunt them all winter long and they would go around digging up gopher
holes and dig these rattlesnakes up and people would have literally have hundreds of them
and they would take them to these roundups and sell them.
And that's where that, that's where that hunt is, is kind of like, it's in the middle of
the whole festival or whatever, where they used to do that.
But now of course with the animal rights and all that kind of stuff, they don't do that
anymore.
But, but yeah, it was a, uh, that used to be a big thing around here.
Rattlesnake hunting.
Have you ever ate rattlesnake?
I legitimately, I heard it's good.
Yeah.
I, I, I've heard the same thing, but no, I'm not eating a snake.
I'm not a huge snake fan.
I, I, I'm around them a lot just because we're, we eat up with cotton mouse down here where
I hunt.
They're around every, every stump.
There's a cotton mouth on it, but no, I don't, I'm not a big snake guy.
No, no sir.
I'm not eating a snake.
Sounds about like Jason Daltrey when he talks about snakes.
All right guys.
Well, this has been fun.
I don't want to keep you guys too much longer.
I know you're both going hunting.
I am not going to hunt tonight.
I'm going to go tomorrow night.
I got a couple of things I got to take care of here.
So best luck to you guys in the woods, Basham, Caleb, either you guys got anything else you
want to close out with?
Hey, just congratulations, bub.
Know that you're new to this.
You've like I said, you kind of jumped head first into it.
And biggest thing I can say is just remember the good times when the bad times come because
they will come and remember why you do it.
You know, you're going to have lulls.
You're going to have times where you're like, why do I do this?
And as houndsman, I think we all hit that wall and it's doing exactly what you're doing
right now.
You got such a love for it that the old dogs hurt and here you go walking the pup through
the woods.
Just remember that always stay tuned to that.
And there's just something about snapping that lead and turning that dog loose.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I know it's I've been blessed, man.
I've got lucky and you know, I won that side by side and I turned around that very next
Monday and won a little little cast right here around the house.
And then I think I've hunted in two or either three cats since then and got my brains beat
out.
So it definitely definitely not automatic, unfortunately.
But but yeah, you know, it don't take long in this game to realize you better learn to
lose.
That's just part of it, especially around here, man.
I'm telling you, we got some some really tough competition around here.
Not a lot of them travel, so they kind of go under the radar.
But there's some really nice dogs around here.
Hey, I know I know how you feel about that.
I mean, look where I live at, you know, right there in Evansville.
I mean, just south, you got the burdens and you got dog tree and, you know, you got blitz
with Rex Robinson, Jr., which if you've never hunted with him, coon dog, you know, you've
got Mike Gilbert and all his dogs.
You got Logan race close.
I mean, it's just dog after dog.
And then you got the shable dogs to the, you know, to the West with Brandon Costell, man,
and all them.
You got you got drive line pups right there in your area, too.
That's the drive on Mecca.
Yeah, you got drive line right there at Junction.
I mean, it's just it just never stops.
I mean, it's just it's always something.
So I mean, you can go to a thirty dollar hunt and draw a world champion, you know, in legs.
And it's just every every cast you go to is it's it's exciting and it's challenging all
at the same time and a quick shout out just because of where you're from.
You're down there with a guy that I have the utmost respect.
Great man.
Mr. Adam Campbell.
Awesome individual.
Yeah.
Adam's only like probably 45 minutes west of me.
So yeah.
Yeah.
Good guy.
Really good guy.
I like Adam a lot.
Yeah.
You don't get no better guy than Adam.
All right, guys.
Well, we're going to wrap it up here, guys.
Thank you so much for joining us tonight.
Basham, Caleb, it's been fun.
Listeners, thank you for sticking around with us.
I hope you guys are enjoying the Semperdoggin podcast.
Basham and I are having a lot of fun getting to meet new people like Caleb.
Like I said, this is the first time we've ever met each other.
Didn't know him from Adam, but through another friend, Kevin, you know, we were able to sit
down and bring you guys this podcast.
So thank you to Kevin Collins.
Thanks again, Caleb, for joining us.
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No, have a good one.
Hey, have a good night hunting Caleb.
And until next time, I'll see you later.
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