1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,840 Canines are our passion. 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,160 They are our addiction. 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:19,200 They are our way of life right down to the very core and without them we would be lost. 4 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,840 The canines of this world really are something to behold. 5 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:28,680 They assist us at work, they accompany us at home, and they perform for us in the field. 6 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,200 No matter where we go, they are by our side. 7 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,880 Canines really are a ride or die, and for that we are grateful. 8 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:41,440 This podcast will showcase working canines of various breeds and disciplines as we search 9 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:46,040 for those canines and their handlers who are always striving to be the best at what they 10 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,560 do. 11 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,760 Those who are always grinding. 12 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,440 Those 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episode of the Semper Doggen podcast guys. 35 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:42,520 I am your host Bryce Matthews and tonight I am joined by your co-host Mr. Stephen Basham 36 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:47,160 and our brother from another mother down in Claxston, Georgia, Mr. Caleb McDonald. 37 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:48,160 What's up fellas? 38 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,160 How's it going? 39 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,160 How's it going? 40 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:51,160 Another day. 41 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,600 Basham, you sound a little tired. 42 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:04,520 Yeah, so I went to a hunt last night and kind of afterwards, you know me, I can never go 43 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,720 to the house on a bad note. 44 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:15,120 So I think I rode in about 2 a.m. and 5.15 an alarm went off. 45 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,160 I'm just glad to see you're back hunting again. 46 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,160 No, shut up. 47 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,440 He took a hiatus. 48 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,160 And Caleb, I just got ahold of him. 49 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,000 I said, hey, just so you know, I sent the link out for this podcast and then he was 50 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,680 like, oh man, I'm going, I was going hunting. 51 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,800 So we got him pulled over on the side of the road. 52 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:30,800 He's in his truck. 53 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,800 We'd sit in here to record this podcast for you guys. 54 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,360 So Caleb, thank you for taking time to join us tonight, buddy. 55 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,400 No problem, man, no problem. 56 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,500 Well guys, this is going to be fun and this is going to be interesting because Caleb is 57 00:03:42,500 --> 00:03:46,680 unlike any other guests that Basham and I have had on the podcast before. 58 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:51,800 Neither Basham nor I have met or spoke to Caleb until right this very second. 59 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:56,600 Caleb is a guest who was referred to us from a previous guest that we had over at the Deep 60 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,480 and Lonely podcast, Mr. Cavan Collins. 61 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,940 And Cavan reached out to me earlier this week and he said, hey, he said, I got a guy you 62 00:04:02,940 --> 00:04:06,320 need to get on the podcast and sit down and record with. 63 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:07,800 He said he's got a super cool story. 64 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,880 He said his name is Caleb McDonald. 65 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,240 He said, just, just trust me. 66 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,780 You need to, you need to record this guy. 67 00:04:12,780 --> 00:04:15,240 So I said, all right, I'm always in for it. 68 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,640 And you know, Cavan hooked us up through text message real quick. 69 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,680 He said, Bryce, Caleb, Caleb, Bryce, here it is. 70 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,120 And I said, all right, down and dirty. 71 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,200 You ready to record? 72 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:24,320 He said, sure. 73 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:25,320 And here we are. 74 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:26,700 So this is raw. 75 00:04:26,700 --> 00:04:27,820 This is Semper dogging. 76 00:04:27,820 --> 00:04:29,000 This is just another houndsman. 77 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,120 So Caleb, let's just start off, man. 78 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,460 Give us all the basics because Basham and I, we don't know nothing. 79 00:04:33,460 --> 00:04:36,280 Tell us who you are, where you're from and a little bit about what you do. 80 00:04:36,280 --> 00:04:40,000 Um, I'm actually from Douglas, Georgia, not Claxton. 81 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 Oh, that's right. 82 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:47,560 See, but, uh, South Georgia, just before the Florida line. 83 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:54,020 I'm only probably, I can be in Florida and maybe a little over an hour. 84 00:04:54,020 --> 00:04:57,760 So we're way down here with the snakes and the Gators and the turning loose when it's 85 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,300 still 95 degrees during the summertime. 86 00:05:01,300 --> 00:05:02,600 That takes a special breed. 87 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:03,600 Yeah. 88 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,600 I don't like fun at all. 89 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,880 No, we got bad woods, thick woods. 90 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,400 Uh, I don't know. 91 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,680 It's, uh, it really tests your, uh, your will to hunt for sure. 92 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,680 I guarantee it. 93 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,920 I don't think I could do it. 94 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:25,200 Sounds about like whenever I lived in North Carolina and you had to crawl to the dogs 95 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:30,720 because the woods are so thick that the briars are so thick that I used to get in trouble 96 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:36,080 in the Marine Corps because I'd have these cuts all over my arms and they thought that 97 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,480 I was trying to self mutilate myself. 98 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,920 Uh, got a good sharp machete is a must. 99 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,160 You don't have a good sharp machete. 100 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,400 You don't even need to need to leave the truck. 101 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:49,400 Yeah, man. 102 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,280 I just don't like when I go hunting in places like that, I like to take Basin with me because 103 00:05:53,280 --> 00:05:57,520 he's probably one and a half times my size and I just let him blaze a path. 104 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:58,880 And then I just come in right behind him. 105 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,680 You know, it works out well. 106 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:05,800 I couldn't imagine though, hunting somewhere where you've got to take a machete to cut 107 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:06,800 your way through. 108 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,120 And I know there's a couple of guys that do that, especially down on that East coast. 109 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,480 Um, my buddy, Heath Hyatt, when he goes bear hunting down in the Carolinas, he says they'll 110 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,120 get down there on them bears and they literally have to cut their way into the dogs. 111 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,120 Oh yeah. 112 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,440 I mean, I, I'm not exaggerating. 113 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,200 It really is that rough. 114 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:22,200 It's that bad. 115 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,240 I've, it's took me hours to go a couple of hundred yards before to get to a dog. 116 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,240 Obviously we try to stay out of those places, but you know how that is. 117 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,240 Turn them loose. 118 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,240 You never know where they're going to end up. 119 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:35,240 Absolutely. 120 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,320 And so have you grown up hunting? 121 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:38,800 Like is this something new to you? 122 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,200 Like just give us the background of how you grew up in your hunting background. 123 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,800 Um, always been big hunters, but never coon hunters. 124 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,200 Nobody in my family, uh, coon hunts. 125 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:55,600 Uh, my dad has been a firefighter for probably going on 30 years now. 126 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:02,120 And there was a guy working at the fire station that was a coon hunting and, uh, just got 127 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,680 linked up through him and started going a little bit. 128 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:12,780 That was probably, I'm going to say, shoot, it's probably been close to 15 years ago. 129 00:07:12,780 --> 00:07:19,560 And then I may have hunted for two years or something like that with him and just quit 130 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:24,140 and life happened, graduated high school and didn't hunt anymore. 131 00:07:24,140 --> 00:07:26,440 And then about two years ago, I picked it back up. 132 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:32,140 So I've been hunting pretty, pretty hard for, for two years or so, something like that. 133 00:07:32,140 --> 00:07:34,920 Not very long, not very long. 134 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:39,560 I probably went as much as most people have been hunting for 10 years. 135 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:40,880 I don't take many nights off. 136 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:41,880 I love it. 137 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:47,000 Basham, can you relate with that whenever you're actually hunting? 138 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,000 Easy now. 139 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,000 Easy. 140 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:56,400 Um, I'm kind of like him in the sense of when I get on a roll, even on the nights that I 141 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:57,760 don't want to go, I go. 142 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,760 So, you know, I'll, I'll be like, man, I'm not feeling good. 143 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:02,760 It's kind of like tonight. 144 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,080 You know, I said yesterday, I said, man, I'm tired. 145 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,640 Uh, I'm not going. 146 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,760 And then I went last night and then it worked today. 147 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,520 I'm like, man, I'm not going. 148 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:18,400 But most likely I would say as soon as we're done recording this, I'll probably step out 149 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,760 back, put a collar on a dog and cut one loose. 150 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,960 I got a few things that happened last night that I'm not too happy with. 151 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:31,240 So I can't, in my head, I can't sit here in the house knowing that there's an issue that 152 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,280 I need to fix. 153 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:34,280 Yeah. 154 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:35,280 Oh yeah. 155 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:40,360 Um, my dog's hurt and I just happened to have a puppy at the house. 156 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,440 So I'm literally just going to walk it through the woods. 157 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:43,440 How bad I have it. 158 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:44,440 So I got you. 159 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,240 You ain't messing around. 160 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:47,240 You got it bad. 161 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:48,240 Yeah. 162 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:49,240 I got it bad. 163 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:50,240 I do. 164 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,240 You got it bad. 165 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,240 So what kind of, what kind of dogs are you hunting right now? 166 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:58,160 Um, I hunt a, uh, male dog for, uh, Cecil Pittman. 167 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,760 Um, he lives down here close to me. 168 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,880 Been a lot of winning back in the day. 169 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:08,080 Hall of Famer just getting a little older and, uh, had a good dog and asked me if I wanted 170 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,080 to hunt it. 171 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:16,600 And, uh, anyway, he's a big old male dog out of Cuzz, but, um, he's gonna, he's done a 172 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:17,600 good bit of winning. 173 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:18,600 I like him. 174 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,720 He's a, he's fun to hunt. 175 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:21,720 How old is he? 176 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:22,720 What's his name? 177 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,520 Uh, Sotilla River switch. 178 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:31,880 He's, um, he just turned five, I think he's right. 179 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,880 So he's, he's in his prime. 180 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,200 Hopefully that's when I like to get dogs. 181 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,760 If not a little older bash, I'm gonna tell you, I like them geriatric dogs. 182 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:40,760 Yeah. 183 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:41,760 I'm not a myself. 184 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,040 I don't have the patience for them. 185 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,480 No, I like, I don't like puppy puppies. 186 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:53,800 Uh, they get on my nerves, but I like, typically whenever I'm looking for the next thing, I'm 187 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:58,280 looking for like a 13, 14 month old pup. 188 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,760 That's not been messed with somebody that bought a puppy saying, Hey, I'm going to train 189 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,000 a dog or I'm going to do this. 190 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,760 And then they just let it sit in the pen. 191 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,600 So it got about 13, 14 months old. 192 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,680 Those are the ones that I like. 193 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:14,040 You've done pretty well with those too. 194 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,400 I mean, you can get those dogs and get them cranking and then turn them around and make 195 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:18,400 a little cash on them. 196 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,840 I mean, you've done a good job with those dogs. 197 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:25,640 Remember remember though, Casey, Luke, caribou, Casey, Lou. 198 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:26,640 Yeah. 199 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:27,640 Yeah. 200 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,480 She was a good one. 201 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,680 Bryce was a little frustrated with that one. 202 00:10:32,680 --> 00:10:33,680 Bachelor. 203 00:10:33,680 --> 00:10:34,680 Basham calls me. 204 00:10:34,680 --> 00:10:36,240 He says, Hey, he said, I got this dog. 205 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,920 We're going to story time here for just a second. 206 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,880 He says, Hey, I found this dog on pro hound. 207 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,400 He said, it ain't very much. 208 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,240 She said, I'm thinking about just buying it, but I really don't have the kennel space for 209 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:47,240 it. 210 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,240 And I really don't have anything to do with it. 211 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:49,240 Really? 212 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:50,240 He said, it's just a goodbye. 213 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,000 He said, do you want to hunt it if I buy it? 214 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,000 Yeah, whatever. 215 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,000 That's fine. 216 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,000 Send it over. 217 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,640 And I'm not a pup guy and I know this, but at the time I didn't have much to hunt. 218 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,600 So I got this little jip and I took her out kind of same thing. 219 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:01,600 Just kind of walking around. 220 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,760 She didn't know much and I actually got her to a tree. 221 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:04,760 Her first coon. 222 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:05,760 I could remember the woods. 223 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:06,760 I remember the tree. 224 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:07,760 Like I was like, oh yeah. 225 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,160 And I sent basham this video. 226 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,920 I'm like, she treated a coon. 227 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:18,040 But she was a quarter strike dog, dead silent, dead silent. 228 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,960 And I get bored with stuff like that. 229 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,840 I don't like to just sit in the woods and not hear nothing. 230 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,000 I like to hear what that dog was doing, picking around here, moving here. 231 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,440 Oh, the track is getting hotter. 232 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:28,440 Wham bam. 233 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:29,440 Thank you, ma'am. 234 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:30,440 They rolled up on the tree. 235 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:31,440 That's what I like to hear. 236 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,120 And this dog was just tight mouthed. 237 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,480 So I gave her back to bash them and the rest is history on her. 238 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,920 She was, she turned out to be a nice little hound. 239 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,300 He left out a couple very great details. 240 00:11:44,300 --> 00:11:49,400 So he calls me one night and he says, this dog has got to come back to your house. 241 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,200 And I said, why? 242 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,880 He said, man, I walked this dog into the woods and before I can get to the side by side, 243 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:56,880 she's already there. 244 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,440 I forgot about that. 245 00:11:58,440 --> 00:11:59,440 Yep. 246 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:04,000 He said, I grabbed the dog out from under the side by side and I try to get her to go 247 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:09,520 hunting and I swear she beats me back to the side by side every single time. 248 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,280 I forgot, I honestly, I forgot about that. 249 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:12,440 I didn't mean to leave that out of the story. 250 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:17,040 I just forgot about it because she would do that a lot. 251 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,560 And bash him takes her and he gets her, he gets her going. 252 00:12:19,560 --> 00:12:20,880 He's a, Hey, I got this dog cranking. 253 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:21,880 I'm like, whatever. 254 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,240 He's like, no, I'm for real. 255 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:24,240 He's like, let's go hunting. 256 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:25,800 I'm like, okay. 257 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,340 So I'll never forget this night either. 258 00:12:27,340 --> 00:12:31,280 This is probably one of the, one of the nights that I was like almost, I don't want to say 259 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,560 scared, but I was like, man, this is not going to end well for two guys walking around in 260 00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:35,780 the woods. 261 00:12:35,780 --> 00:12:40,560 We turned Casey loose and what was that other dog that almost looked like a pit bull? 262 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:44,120 Um, he's real short stocky dog. 263 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,960 Uh, it wasn't Bebo. 264 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,760 No, you had another dog. 265 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:50,880 Is this big male dog? 266 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:51,880 He looked like a pit bull. 267 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,200 I mean, just muscled up and he had this puny mouth on him. 268 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,160 And I was like, Oh gosh. 269 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,440 And we turned these dogs loose and Casey trees a coon. 270 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,000 And I'm like, okay, did a good job. 271 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,640 And this dog goes into trees of coon. 272 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,720 Well here comes this thunderstorm rolling in. 273 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:09,320 And when I say rolling, I mean, lightning cracking around us, it's pouring rain. 274 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:14,120 We're standing in the middle of a swamp and I'm telling you, lightning is hitting around 275 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:15,120 us. 276 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,120 It ain't far. 277 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,560 And I'm like high stepping it out of there, trying to get out of here. 278 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:19,700 And here comes this Casey dog. 279 00:13:19,700 --> 00:13:23,320 She rolls up and by God, when we got to her, she had a coon sitting there in the pouring 280 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:24,320 rain, lightning thunderstorm. 281 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:28,000 I was like hot dog, hot dog. 282 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,040 I couldn't believe it. 283 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,040 I couldn't believe it. 284 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,900 But anyways, that's a little bit on that story. 285 00:13:32,900 --> 00:13:36,320 So Caleb, what made you get back into the coon hunting? 286 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,720 So you're back into it for two years. 287 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,960 So before that, were you sitting around, you're like, man, I'm bored. 288 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,000 Like I want to get back into hound hunting or like walk us through that. 289 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,000 Yeah. 290 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,560 It's kind of funny that you asked that. 291 00:13:46,560 --> 00:13:49,680 Me and my dad were just talking about that. 292 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:54,560 Even when I wasn't hunting, I always kept up with it. 293 00:13:54,560 --> 00:13:58,960 Was always checking all the magazines, all that kind of stuff. 294 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,640 And I just never, I just never had a dog again. 295 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:02,640 I don't know, man. 296 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,600 I just don't, I can't even remember where I saw a little dog. 297 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,520 I was Facebook or something maybe. 298 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:14,960 And I saw a little, little pup kind of like, Bastian was talking about 13 or 14 months 299 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,680 old that nobody had ever done anything with. 300 00:14:16,680 --> 00:14:17,680 And she was good looking. 301 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:23,440 So I went and got her and she didn't turn it out, but, but she got me back into it. 302 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:30,920 So it was literally just as simple as I just was on Facebook one night and bought one. 303 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,000 And then here we go. 304 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,000 Hold on. 305 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,000 I got one thing on that. 306 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,000 Is it me? 307 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,640 Am I the only one that you go onto Facebook? 308 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:47,960 Facebook is the detriment to me because you get on Facebook and someone's selling a dog 309 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:53,920 and they know exactly which video to put on Facebook. 310 00:14:53,920 --> 00:15:00,840 That dogs up on that tree and just come off and they're saying, Oh, this dog is green 311 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:01,960 and she don't know much. 312 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:06,040 And in the back of your mind being a houndsman, what do you think? 313 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:12,520 Man, if she'll rack them off like that, they must not know what they got. 314 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:13,920 And then you just got suckered in. 315 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,680 That is called marketing in 2024. 316 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,960 Tell me it don't work. 317 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:22,960 I don't know. 318 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:23,960 I don't know. 319 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,440 There's no doubt about that. 320 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:27,440 That's right. 321 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:28,440 That's right. 322 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,960 Do what I'm sorry. 323 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:31,960 I said, say that again. 324 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:32,960 You broke up. 325 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:34,480 Oh, they definitely know how to get you. 326 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,880 They, they, they draw you in for sure. 327 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:42,320 And then, and then you get it home and you were like, no wonder I got swindled into one 328 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,480 of them deals in October. 329 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,480 Yeah, I got swindled. 330 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:55,560 I've made it a personal vow to myself that thou shalt not ever buy another hound unless 331 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,080 that person steps in the woods with it. 332 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,040 I'm the same way. 333 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:05,480 My dad's always been real skeptical about buying dogs on the internet. 334 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,640 I've always just like, let's just go buy this one. 335 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:08,920 Let's go buy that one. 336 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:16,560 So anyway, he finally stepped out and we went and bought one probably a year ago or so. 337 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:23,040 And I called around and kind of got mixed reviews on it, but she had won a ton of money 338 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:28,040 like state money that year and actually won a state race and all this kind of stuff. 339 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:34,040 And anyway, I went and bought her and long story short, she didn't stick around very 340 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,040 long. 341 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:39,560 So yeah, he's through buying dogs on Facebook. 342 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,760 He told me never again, are we ever buying another dog off the internet buys one. 343 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:48,080 It'll be, you know, we'll be in the woods with it when he buys it. 344 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:53,200 That was that broken from his internet buying. 345 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,160 Yeah I'm the one and done on that deal as well. 346 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,840 I don't, I don't ever buy dogs. 347 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:02,280 I've always, ever since I've been hunting, I've either hunted something that somebody 348 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,080 else was done with like, and that's kind of where I kind of got my love for them older 349 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:11,440 dogs is, you know, people have put them up and like the first dog that I can remember 350 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:12,440 was Shane Smith. 351 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,280 You know, he's a sponsor of this podcast with Froggy Bottom Outdoors. 352 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,520 I just lived a couple miles from him and I didn't even, I didn't know him. 353 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:23,440 I didn't know anything about him, but I drew him one night in the hunt and I had this dog. 354 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,840 She wasn't no count, but I just, I wanted to go to a hunt and, and he called me at the 355 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,960 end of that, I don't know about a day later and he said, Hey, he said, I see your passion. 356 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,000 He said, I see what you, what you are wanting to do. 357 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,840 You just don't have the dog power to do it. 358 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,520 He said, I got this old female in the kennel. 359 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:39,520 He said her name's shine. 360 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:44,280 He said, she's old, she's gray, but she'll tree coons and she'll, she'll get you into 361 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:45,280 these local hunts. 362 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:46,280 I said, okay. 363 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:47,840 He said, just come get her. 364 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,960 He said, but you know, if anything ever happens, I get her back. 365 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,720 I said, okay, no problem. 366 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,920 And shine is where I found fell in love. 367 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,400 I guess them older dogs, like I said, she taught me how to coon hunt. 368 00:17:58,400 --> 00:17:59,400 Yeah. 369 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,200 I don't know if you're ready for this yet. 370 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:08,480 This part of the story, but that's, that's like the exact way I kind of got, like I got 371 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,800 that dog and got to wanting to go to a hunt. 372 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:17,240 And that's how I ran into the guy hunt for was the first cast I ever even entered in 373 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:18,240 PKC. 374 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,240 Yeah. 375 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:20,240 We're, we're ready for it. 376 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,240 Tell us a story. 377 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,240 I mean, let's roll. 378 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,240 We don't have a script here. 379 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:24,240 We just roll. 380 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,240 Yeah. 381 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:30,680 I was, I had a dog, like I said, it wasn't worth, wasn't worth going to a hunt, but it's 382 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:31,680 $35. 383 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,160 What the heck, you know? 384 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:41,200 And I go and I really and truly, I should have won the cast, but I gave it away. 385 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:47,200 But anyway, Cecil Pittman, he's ledging around here anyway. 386 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:54,560 And I've always heard about the guy keeping up with coon hunts and all that. 387 00:18:54,560 --> 00:19:00,280 So of course I go to the first time I go to, I draw him and I'm scared, intimidated, all 388 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:01,960 the good stuff. 389 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,480 And anyway, he beats me. 390 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,520 And after the hunt, he said, Hey man, you want to go pleasure hunting? 391 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:08,520 I said, sure. 392 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:13,680 We go pleasure hunting and he basically the same story you just gave. 393 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,720 Hey, I got this dog. 394 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,640 I can tell that you're really into it, but what you're packing ain't going to cut it. 395 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,400 If you want to come get her, you know, be at my house tomorrow. 396 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:24,400 You can come get it. 397 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,060 And he doesn't know me from, from anybody, you know? 398 00:19:28,060 --> 00:19:29,440 So anyway, I go meet him. 399 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,480 I get this dog and the rest is history. 400 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,920 I've found it for him ever since. 401 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:40,960 Good thing because I don't know that I don't know that I could ever raise anything up to, 402 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,080 you know, on that level or whatever. 403 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,920 He's got some, he's got some really nice dogs. 404 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,200 Well, isn't, isn't it crazy how life works and stuff like that? 405 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,320 Like you said, you just said he never, he didn't know you from Adam and it was, it was 406 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,360 the same way for me with Shane. 407 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:55,360 Shane had never met me. 408 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:57,720 He didn't know anything about me. 409 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,640 And you know, it's just, there's, I don't know. 410 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,680 I guess I haven't been in that position yet where I've been able to look at somebody and 411 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,760 say, Hey, you know, I can help you. 412 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,000 And I, maybe I'm just not at that point in my life yet, but you know, Shane did that 413 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,560 with me and Cecil did that for you. 414 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,340 And it turns into so much. 415 00:20:14,340 --> 00:20:15,540 It's crazy how this works. 416 00:20:15,540 --> 00:20:20,160 You know, that's, this was probably six or seven years ago now that this happened with 417 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:26,800 Shane and you know, met the guy at local hunt at Hartford city, Indiana, found out 418 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:31,560 that we just lived a couple of miles apart from each other, hunted his dog for a while. 419 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,720 And then I moved back down to Southern Indiana and he and I just stayed in contact. 420 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,840 You know, we were just buddies and we've always just got along so well. 421 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:43,360 And, and then he, you know, he joked around with me on a few years ago and he said, he 422 00:20:43,360 --> 00:20:46,000 said, one of these days, he said, you're going to come work for me. 423 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,080 And I was like, ain't no way I'm going to come work for you. 424 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,680 I said, first off, I live four hours away from you. 425 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,000 Like I live down in Southern Indiana. 426 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,520 You live in Northern Indiana. 427 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,600 I said, that's, I said, I'm not moving. 428 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,360 Like, I have no desire to move back up there. 429 00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:00,000 I moved to Northern Indiana once and I ain't doing it again. 430 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,640 I said, I don't like it up there. 431 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,800 And second off, like I don't really know about working for a friend, you know, that can has 432 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,480 its own weird issues sometimes. 433 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,440 And I just kind of blew it off. 434 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,480 Well, guess what? 435 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:21,120 Me and Basham come up here to a world hunt and on a whim run into my now future wife, 436 00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:24,000 you know, met her up here at the world hunt in Northern Indiana. 437 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,000 Didn't think anything about it. 438 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,720 I still live down South and I live down South for the first year that I, that I knew her. 439 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,240 And I come up here just about every other weekend and she'd come down there. 440 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,240 Well guess what? 441 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,440 Guess who's living in Northern Indiana again now? 442 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,440 Bryce. 443 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,360 He's back in Northern Indiana and it's much better now cause I enjoy the people that I'm 444 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:42,360 with. 445 00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:45,400 But even when I was living up here, I was still working for a company down there and 446 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,320 Shane's like, he said, up part of the puzzle. 447 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:48,360 I remember he texted me one day. 448 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:50,600 He said, he said, part of the puzzle has fell in place. 449 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,640 He said, you now live in Northern Indiana and I blew it off and I blew it off and I 450 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,120 lived here for a year. 451 00:21:56,120 --> 00:21:57,420 And guess what? 452 00:21:57,420 --> 00:21:59,280 Now I'm working for the guy. 453 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:06,960 And it all started with a guy who saw a younger, a younger kid, you could say early twenties 454 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,800 who didn't have a coon dog and he, he could help out, you know, that's where this whole 455 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:11,800 thing started. 456 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,980 I was, this has been six years in the making. 457 00:22:14,980 --> 00:22:17,640 You know what the common occurrence to that is, don't you Bryce? 458 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,640 I don't fill me in. 459 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:25,040 See when you get, when you get to the age where you're not physically capable to really 460 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:29,120 walk to all the trees, you know, and Shane's getting up there in the age. 461 00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:31,080 He's going to kill you. 462 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,080 It's kind of hard. 463 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:37,360 You know, he hops out of that truck and, you know, you know, out pops the little Walker 464 00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:39,120 with the tennis balls, right? 465 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:40,120 Right in front of him. 466 00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:44,760 You know, he needs to find a younger guy like yourself to, you know, chase his hounds. 467 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,720 Oh man, he's going to kill you. 468 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,920 And he hears this one, but it's just funny, Caleb. 469 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:50,920 It's funny how that works. 470 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,680 You know, it's kind of the same story. 471 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:58,200 And these dogs, these dogs take us places that I don't know any other animal really 472 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,400 could. 473 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,280 And the people that you meet, it's, it's just, it's great. 474 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,280 Yep. 475 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:11,320 No, I, at the time too, uh, he was hunting for a I granny back when he had 970 handlers, 476 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,320 but, um, he had a bunch. 477 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:19,400 Hey, and it, you know, it was kind of, it was cool because it, like when I, when I got 478 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:24,720 started with him, I literally had been hunting for a few weeks again at this point. 479 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:30,320 And, um, but the, uh, the learning curve, he shortened it a lot because I was always 480 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:35,000 around really good handlers, you know, like as soon as I started hunting with him, I'd 481 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:41,800 go to Ike's and we'd hunt and I'd be, you know, hanging out with Vord and weed and, 482 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:49,280 and uh, dual and, uh, Oliver and all those guys, you know, and just being around them, 483 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,880 obviously it shortened the curve. 484 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,840 It don't take long getting beat by guys like that. 485 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,480 If you got, you know, half of a brain, you'll start kind of figuring out like, Hey, I need 486 00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,880 to start doing what they're doing. 487 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,560 So that, uh, it, it helped for sure. 488 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,520 And uh, I've been, I've been real blessed when it comes to that. 489 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,200 I got to get around some good people quick. 490 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,200 Yeah. 491 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:16,040 You know, you talk about those, those handlers and, and really, if you look, if you just 492 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,920 look in the competition side of things, like they really are elite, they are at the top 493 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,500 of the list. 494 00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:26,500 And if you added up all the money that those guys, you just mentioned have won chasing 495 00:24:26,500 --> 00:24:30,040 the coon dog around, like it's mind boggling, you know? 496 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:35,200 And that's one thing that I, I do feel fortunate about is, you know, dual, he just lives, I 497 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,400 don't know, 35, 40 minutes away from me up here. 498 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,560 So he and I hunt together pretty regularly whenever he's not on the road and you know, 499 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:46,720 he's always keeping three, four, five good dogs in his kennel, you know, usually they're 500 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:52,320 usually Ike's and, but to get the chance to pleasure hunt against those dogs of that caliber 501 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:58,280 who are winning on that level, it really gives you a benchmark for the dog that you're totin 502 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,440 and it shows you what you need to do to be there. 503 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,000 And like you said, if you've got half a brain, you'll pick up on a little bit of it, you 504 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,000 know? 505 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,000 Yeah. 506 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,000 Yeah. 507 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:14,600 It was crazy that I, I didn't have to go through all the, the, you know, pretty much, I mean, 508 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,120 which I've, I don't get me wrong. 509 00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:22,360 I've had my fair share of them, but, but I didn't have to go through all the trying to, 510 00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:27,560 to figure out how to raise a pup and hunt a pup and, and doing it wrong a hundred times. 511 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:33,400 Like, and I'll probably, and really and truly, I've probably missed out on, on certain things 512 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,880 because of that, but I just kind of got thrown in there with good dogs right off the, and 513 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:44,040 that kind of, I guess it's good and bad, but I've enjoyed it. 514 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,760 It's a sink or swim type deal, you know? 515 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:47,760 Yeah. 516 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:48,760 Ruined. 517 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:49,760 Yeah. 518 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:50,760 Yeah. 519 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:51,760 And that's what, that's what's bad. 520 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:57,040 As I told Cecil the other day, I said, eventually, you know, go to, go to losing way more than 521 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,080 I'm winning or whatever and you'll fire me and I don't know what I'm going to do then. 522 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,040 I'll be, I'll be up the creek without a paddle for sure. 523 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:10,600 You know, I've always wondered how that works, you know, like competition, coon hunting and 524 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,280 Basher, you might be able to chime in on this and more than I have, but I'm just going to 525 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,920 throw out my thoughts here. 526 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,540 There's no guarantees in competition coon hunting. 527 00:26:20,540 --> 00:26:25,560 You can be on your game, your dog looking great Monday through Thursday. 528 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:30,640 And when you go to a hunt Friday and Saturday, you might just catch a bad lick, you know, 529 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:31,920 two nights in a row. 530 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,960 And if you're playing at the level that, you know, a lot of these guys are playing at where 531 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:43,120 they're spending 2,500 to $6,500 in an entry fee to catch a bad break is not just like, 532 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:45,160 Oh man, I, you know, I lost 35 bucks tonight. 533 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,720 Like that's several thousand dollars, you know? 534 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,520 And if you're a handler and you're putting in all the time, you're putting in all the 535 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:58,240 effort and you're catching these bad breaks, like you said, you go on a losing streak for 536 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,260 a month, two months, and you may, you may be only win, you know, two or three casts 537 00:27:02,260 --> 00:27:04,960 out of the eight or 10 that you enter. 538 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,480 It don't take anybody with no brains to figure out you done lost a bunch of money and that's 539 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,400 coming out of somebody's pocket. 540 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:17,280 And so at what point is it like, you know, the, I guess I would say like the owner, what 541 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,120 point are you, are you as the handler going up to that owner? 542 00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:23,080 Like, Hey man, I understand, like, I'm sorry. 543 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,760 And if they, if they cut ties, like, do you just have to understand that? 544 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:27,920 Like is there guilt? 545 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:28,920 Is there animosity? 546 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,760 Like these are the things that go through my brain. 547 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:32,760 I don't know. 548 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,360 Like, maybe you two can answer that, but that's my thought process. 549 00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:40,160 What is your guys's thoughts or answers on that? 550 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:45,240 It's it's a case by case situation. 551 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:53,700 I think I speak for many of the guys out there that have hunted or other people, every, every 552 00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:55,800 single person I've hunted for is different. 553 00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:01,520 I think when you're talking about the level that we're talking about dual and Michael 554 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:10,000 ward and weed and all of them, I think there's a level of respect that goes between the handler 555 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:16,220 and the owner to the point of it's more than just the owner spending money. 556 00:28:16,220 --> 00:28:22,760 It's about, uh, you know, it's kind of the same thing as if, you know, if, if Shane, 557 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:28,480 you know, you being a salesman for Shane, if Shane sends you out on the road 14 days 558 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:34,400 in a row to sell something and you don't sell, he sees the work that you're putting in. 559 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,400 Yeah. 560 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:41,840 You're not getting the results right now, but he's got the belief in you that eventually 561 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:48,140 that hard work, you'll see the results of your hard work and it'll come back around. 562 00:28:48,140 --> 00:28:53,960 And I think first and foremost, we all know that the owners of these dogs, unless you're 563 00:28:53,960 --> 00:29:02,880 just unless I wouldn't even say unless you're just, you know, going to a lot of them, but 564 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,360 the handler, the owners of these dogs, they're not out for the money. 565 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,360 They're not there. 566 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:14,680 They're out because, you know, a bass boat costs a hundred thousand, you know, you know, 567 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,400 good fishing rods costs thousands of dollars. 568 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:24,280 You know, every race cars costs this race car, you know, demolition cars costs that 569 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,400 horses costs. 570 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,720 Everybody's got a hobby and this is their hobby. 571 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:31,720 It's not about the money. 572 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:38,440 I think you could talk to Strickland and Oxidine and I craney and you know, we could go keep 573 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,680 going down the list, you know, a Colmig Bay. 574 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,120 And I think they would tell you it's for the love of noon hunting. 575 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:51,600 It's being in that winter circle, you know, yoder and the bird and I think you could talk 576 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:57,120 to them and they would just say it's it's the love of the hunting of being in that circle 577 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,760 of being the top of what you do. 578 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:05,640 It's not about making the money because I don't think no matter what you come out ahead. 579 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:13,640 So jumping back to your point of when is enough enough, it's really it's really the relationship 580 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:20,840 between you and the owner and it takes a special relationship to be able to say, hey, I know 581 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:25,240 you're trying it'll it'll all come full circle, you know. 582 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,680 What do you think on that one, Caleb? 583 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:30,680 Oh, yeah. 584 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:40,480 I mean, in my short experience anyway, I'm lucky enough to really good friends with the 585 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:45,280 guy that owns my dog, so I think that it's added pressure in a way like I want to I want 586 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:50,720 to win more, almost more for him than I do me if that makes. 587 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:57,760 But at the same time, I know that, you know, he trusts me or whatever, and it's not like 588 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,320 I'm just out there, you know, just throwing money away. 589 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,160 You know, he knows that he knows that I want to win. 590 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:11,600 And when we get on a bad streak, I've never, never not one time has he ever, you know, 591 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:16,800 acted like, you know, you're going to have to tighten up or anything like that, you know, 592 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:17,800 a lot. 593 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,160 But I mean, but sorry, I didn't mean to catch off her. 594 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,640 Oh, I hunt for another guy a little bit too around here. 595 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,720 He's got a little young dog that's really been making some noise. 596 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,000 And same way with him. 597 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:36,640 I just told him straight up, I look, dude, if you ever, you know, think, hey, look, I'm 598 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:42,760 not performing or, you know, I'm not getting the results that you think we should be get. 599 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,600 Just tell me and we'll we'll figure something else out. 600 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,600 But I've been lucky. 601 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,760 Both both of those guys have been really good. 602 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,400 They don't ever really, you know, never really question anything I do. 603 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,240 And I tell them I want to go to a hunt and they say, go for it. 604 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:02,600 So I've never really, you know, but at the same time, I've been lucky enough to do a 605 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,600 little bit of winning. 606 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,480 So that makes it makes it easier to. 607 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,480 Yeah, it does. 608 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,320 Like, do you ever feel like you ever feel pressure? 609 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,920 You ever just like you have like some weight on your shoulders, especially like when you're 610 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,960 hanging out with a group of guys you're hanging out with? 611 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:23,200 I mean, man, if you're the new guy into that circle, I know me like I can be with the best 612 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:28,400 of them, you know, and I can put on a front and I can I can look, you know, like nothing 613 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,400 to bother me. 614 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,560 But deep down, I'm like, man, I'm like, I'm with the best of the best right now. 615 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,360 And I need to be up at their level. 616 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,360 Do you ever feel any pressure? 617 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,360 Absolutely. 618 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,360 Yes. 619 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,440 It's funny because we got a group of guys that all hunt around here and we're all on 620 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,880 this big Snapchat group and I feel more pressure. 621 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,520 I feel more pressure on there than I do anywhere else just because, you know, it's like the 622 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,040 ultimate trash talking. 623 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,480 But now, you know, it's funny because like I'll talk to Brett Denny lives down here close, 624 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:04,400 Adam Campbell, and you'll talk to those guys about, yeah, we just won thirty thousand last 625 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:10,960 night or or I've won seven thousand state money this this month or whatever. 626 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,720 And I'm like, Jesus, man, like. 627 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:20,440 Like a five, you know, like our cast around here, you know, we're talking about the thirty 628 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,720 five dollar hunt a minute ago. 629 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,800 I don't know why South Georgia isn't known more for like a Kuhn hunting Mecca, because 630 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,040 I'm telling you, these cast are ridiculous. 631 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,080 It's like world every night around here is unreal. 632 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:42,280 I mean, last night, the guy that the other guy was telling us hunt for Kyle Griffin, 633 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,040 he has a little little young dog named Ruby. 634 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,440 I think he said they treat four or five on him. 635 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,720 I think he had like 450 and got beat in our hunt. 636 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:58,000 I mean, it's just like, I don't know, the competition around here is crazy. 637 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:04,560 So pressure from friends around here is that it's unreal. 638 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:11,480 So that opened up another can of worms like let's let's talk about, I guess, social media 639 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,080 in Kuhn hunting, because you kind of hit on it earlier. 640 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,040 You know, you people have dogs for sale on social media all the time. 641 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:22,960 But then you just brought up the number one, my favorite app of all time, Snapchat. 642 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:29,720 And I tell you what, if there is a way to make a Kuhn Hunter feel guilty, wake up in 643 00:34:29,720 --> 00:34:36,200 the morning after a night that you did not go hunting and count all the stories that 644 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:41,400 are on Snapchat of all those other guys that were hunting that night while you were sleeping. 645 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:47,440 To me, I mean, it kills me because that's probably what 90% of my friends on Snapchat 646 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,400 is as Kuhn Hunters. 647 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,840 And it's almost like an obligatory thing. 648 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,200 You know, like you roll up to a tree and you take a snap and you just throw it on your 649 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,160 story and you don't even have to put any words. 650 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,680 It just so everybody else sees that you're out putting in the time. 651 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,520 Like do you think that social media is playing a big part, like I guess in the, I don't know, 652 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,640 mental state of Kuhn hunting these days? 653 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,480 You're your buddy, Kevin Collins. 654 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,640 I do that. 655 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:20,080 He makes you feel like such a terrible hunter because he's out every morning till daylight 656 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,440 and then gets up and goes to work. 657 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,760 I don't know how he does it like he does with, and that little old dog, he's got flat trees 658 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,880 of man like, I don't know. 659 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,960 He makes you feel like, like, I don't know. 660 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,400 It makes me feel like such a loser. 661 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,120 Just to be honest. 662 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,640 He sends me snaps all the time. 663 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,120 I'm like, oh, here we go again. 664 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,680 I guess I really don't have that problem because I don't really do too much on the social media 665 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:42,920 side of it. 666 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,640 You know, I don't have Snapchat. 667 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:55,800 So the closest I get to it is, is when I get a young dog and I'm starting to get it cranking, 668 00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:01,480 you'll know it because I, every night I'll post a video, I'll post a video, I'll post 669 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,920 a video, even if it's a bad video. 670 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:04,920 Ask Bryce. 671 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,240 He asked me one day, he says, why do you go live so much? 672 00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:13,480 I said, have you ever noticed that when I put one up for sale, it ain't for sale very 673 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,480 long? 674 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:19,560 I said, that's because somebody's been following that little dog through the good nights, through 675 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,560 the bad nights. 676 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,360 I don't just post the good videos. 677 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,560 I post the bad videos. 678 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:31,360 And by the time I'm ready to sell that dog, somebody's already followed it for that long. 679 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,880 And next thing you know, boom, it's gone. 680 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:43,160 So that's pretty much the closest I get to social media playing a part of my hunting. 681 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,760 So man, this is like, I got so many things that are just rolling off the top of my head. 682 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,560 I love stuff like this because there's no plan. 683 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,240 I mean, it's just rabbit holes. 684 00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:56,720 So like spinning off of that, I'm hunting this little dog right now, wheels, right? 685 00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:58,880 Jeremy Jones owns him. 686 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:04,560 Jones is hunted for, you know, Roger Shable and all those guys, Russ Beller. 687 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:09,040 Jones is, he's hunted for some big name guys and he's had some big name dogs and he has 688 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,800 sold some dogs that have went on to do a ton of winning. 689 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,120 But Jones doesn't have social media of any kind. 690 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,880 He doesn't have Facebook. 691 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:24,120 He doesn't have Snapchat and he's not a super old guy, you know, mid forties. 692 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:29,560 So but that guy, I could call him right now and say, hey, what's the scoop on such and 693 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,280 such dog and he will have the scoop. 694 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,640 And he'll be like, hey, I'm getting ready to sell this dog. 695 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,400 He's like, yeah, I've already got a buyer lined up. 696 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,720 He's like, you know, big money. 697 00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:43,280 I'm like, how do you do it though without being on it? 698 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,120 Like, how do you do it? 699 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,680 And he's like connections, man. 700 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,600 He's like, I'm a well connected individual. 701 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:54,500 And so that, I mean, to me that's, it's interesting to me that I would almost a hundred percent 702 00:37:54,500 --> 00:38:00,560 rely on social media, on videos, on pictures, on all that to sell a dog or to buy a dog. 703 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:05,400 And there's guys who are out there who are still doing it literally through their network. 704 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,680 Like that's interesting to me. 705 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:12,580 Well see back before social media, Bryce, before you decided that you wanted to pick 706 00:38:12,580 --> 00:38:20,600 up Coon hunting, honest and truly where you bought and sold dogs was the forums, the UKC 707 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:21,600 forum. 708 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:29,080 And the, I'm going to tell you, I can not even describe how many dogs back in the day 709 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:36,520 that I have bought off a UKC forum for little to nothing and turn around and been like, 710 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,500 yeah, there's a little gold mine. 711 00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:39,500 There's a little gold mine. 712 00:38:39,500 --> 00:38:47,360 If you haven't picked up, okay, look, I'm a big, people like to flip cars and flip guns. 713 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,920 I'm a dog flipper. 714 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:57,880 I have found an addiction into buying a dog for a thousand dollars, $1,200 and then doing 715 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,800 a little bit of winning with it and then finding a buyer. 716 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,880 I mean, Duncan hit the spot. 717 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,680 The one that brought me him that is Epic with me and Bryce. 718 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:15,840 I mean, I bought him from Chad down in Louisiana for $1,200 and he went on to win some big 719 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,520 things and I still got him now. 720 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:25,280 So yeah, that's called the UKC forum and the PKC forum, but pro hounds for well, I'm the 721 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:26,280 exact opposite. 722 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,560 I hate to, uh, if I get one, I like, I hate to sell it. 723 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,120 I'm, I like to hang on to them. 724 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,120 Okay. 725 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:39,280 I'm glad, I'm glad that you said that because me and Basham have had this talk a bunch and 726 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,480 so is Shane and I, so I'm the same way. 727 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:50,040 I get attached to something and I'm like, okay, I have put all this time, all this effort, 728 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:56,560 sweat equity into a dog and they're finally doing something that I like, you know, like 729 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,680 I get attached and so it's hard for me to move something. 730 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:08,840 Sometimes I get blinders on and I see the dog, I guess maybe for what the general public 731 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,720 doesn't see the dog, if that, if that makes any sense, you know, they might be treading 732 00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:16,760 a few easy Coons and you know, look, I don't know. 733 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,040 Let's just take a started dog. 734 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:23,080 You know, they could be 17, 18 months old, treat a handful of Coons and you're like, 735 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,000 okay, they're really moving good. 736 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,720 And I think that switch is going to flip just two or three more weeks, two or three more 737 00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:33,440 weeks and then I got Basham or I got Shane in my ego and they're like, dude, that pup 738 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,240 ain't where it needs to be. 739 00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:37,120 Like move on to the next one. 740 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,680 And I'm like, but, but it's so close and I will almost find myself as an advocate going 741 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:46,940 to bat for this dog as to why I think should stay in my kennel and why somebody else should 742 00:40:46,940 --> 00:40:53,920 not own it because I'm sitting on this little gold mine in my head and sometimes it just, 743 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,520 I don't know, every once in a while the switch will flip and I'm like, okay, I'm done. 744 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,400 What was the dog that that really happened on do what? 745 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,240 What was that male pup? 746 00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:06,040 Oh, Mr. Weatherman. 747 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,520 Yes. 748 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:12,160 Yeah, I had this, I had this dog, Mr. Weatherman. 749 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:17,240 And so I think the reason I was stuck on Mr. I called him Mr. And we'll go back into storytime 750 00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:21,280 and guys, I hope this isn't, you know, just Bryce Basham storytime here. 751 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,520 Caleb, I want you to think of a good story here and give us one of your best stories 752 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,560 the in your most recent two years, so be thinking on that, but I'm gonna tell a story on Mr. 753 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,420 Weatherman. 754 00:41:30,420 --> 00:41:41,200 So Mr. is out of the old rebel dog that I hunted for Rocky peace and Rocky, he wasn't 755 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,200 do what? 756 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,200 Basham. 757 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,520 I said, you're welcome. 758 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:45,520 Yeah. 759 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:50,800 Basham hooked me up on that one and rebel rebel was an older dog whenever I got him 760 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:55,880 and I called Rocky and Rocky said, Hey, he said, I don't mind sending you this dog and 761 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,680 I never met Rocky did not know him. 762 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:58,680 He said, I don't mind seeing this dog. 763 00:41:58,680 --> 00:41:59,760 He said, I want you to know. 764 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,920 He said, this dog is my pride and joy. 765 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,840 He said, I've had this dog for years. 766 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:04,840 He said, he's been good to me. 767 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,560 He's been good to my family. 768 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,320 He said, I want you to treat him the same way. 769 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,160 He's just getting up there in age. 770 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,720 He said, and you know, he had a younger dog that he was working on at the time. 771 00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:14,720 And I said, that's fine. 772 00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:16,180 I said, I like them older dogs anyways. 773 00:42:16,180 --> 00:42:17,180 And I got rebel. 774 00:42:17,180 --> 00:42:20,560 I think he was eight years old whenever I got him. 775 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,120 And to this day, rebel is my measuring stick. 776 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,520 He's the best dog I've ever had. 777 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:31,040 And you know, I was hunting him one night down to the local hunt in Princeton and he 778 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:36,200 was going across an old train trussle and just back in the middle of the woods, just 779 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,600 an old wooden train train trussle. 780 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,560 And he fell through that trussle and he jacked up his back real bad. 781 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:42,680 That dog never come back to me. 782 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,720 He never come back and he come limping down the road and I could tell someone right. 783 00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:52,120 And I was like, dad, go on next morning, I go out there and he just couldn't hardly walk. 784 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,840 You know, I told Rocky, I said something's wrong. 785 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,080 And I said, I couldn't figure it out. 786 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,680 And I went back and I figured out that's what happened. 787 00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:01,000 He fell through that train trussle about fell about 15 foot and he jacked up his back. 788 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,680 So I ended up sending him back to Rocky where he lived at his days, you know, but I was 789 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,120 very thankful for that. 790 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:10,280 And they bred him to a coma female. 791 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,040 And that's where I got Mr. From long story, long way around the story. 792 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,460 That's where I got Mr. From. 793 00:43:14,460 --> 00:43:20,200 And I was so attached to that dog because Mr. Looked just like rebel. 794 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,760 Mr. Sounded just like rebel. 795 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,160 He was his clone. 796 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:31,360 And I was, I was dead set and determined that this dog was going to be the next dog that 797 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,360 I was going to push. 798 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,280 Not just because I liked the dog, but I was like, man, like if I could find a way, if 799 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,880 I could find a way to get this dog on the big stage, it's almost like paying homage 800 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:40,880 to rebel. 801 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,800 It's almost a way of saying thank you to Rocky. 802 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:43,920 You know, I was hooked on this dog. 803 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:49,160 I was set and he just, he just didn't work out, you know, and it took me a long time 804 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:50,440 to come to realize that. 805 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,000 But that's, that's just one of my, so we laughing at bashing. 806 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,200 I said worthless. 807 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,880 He was, he was, he was a nice show dog. 808 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,760 He had several wins in the show. 809 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,880 Nikki would take him to the shows and God, he'd win everything she put him in. 810 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:07,320 I mean, he just, he was a looker now, but as far as the Coon training, just wasn't, 811 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,160 he wasn't up to snuff, but Caleb, tell us one of your, tell us one of your favorite 812 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,160 stories. 813 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,160 Oh man. 814 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,200 Oh no, that's, I was talking with some people earlier about having to do a podcast. 815 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,920 I said, man, I hadn't done this long enough to have any cool things to talk about. 816 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:25,000 I don't, I don't know, man. 817 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:30,840 Oh, just every night that we hunt down here, something crazy happens between alligators 818 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:37,600 and snakes and a lot of art or more bloopers than anything. 819 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,400 Plenty of those bloopers make for good stories though. 820 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,040 Oh man. 821 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,400 Man, it would be hard to even put a finger on one. 822 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:47,400 I don't know. 823 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,400 I'm drawing a blank. 824 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,600 I'm uh, I'll fill in. 825 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:56,120 I'll pick up your slack because this literally happened last week. 826 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,280 So my boy and I are hunting. 827 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,640 We go down, back down to Southern Indiana. 828 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:00,640 Oh gosh. 829 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:05,360 I'm killing myself just thinking about this and it had just rained. 830 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,840 It rained hard. 831 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:08,840 Wheels got treed. 832 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,720 We pulled down this gravel road and wheels ain't but 50 yards off the road and it looked 833 00:45:13,720 --> 00:45:16,440 like there was some water on the side of the road and it literally just looked like a puddle. 834 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:17,440 I mean it wasn't crazy. 835 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:22,560 It just kind of like the water was level with the road and Colton, he stepped off into that. 836 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,200 We both, and I was right behind him. 837 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:25,960 I mean I was getting ready to follow in his footsteps. 838 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,800 We stepped into what I thought was like four or five, six inches of water. 839 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:30,800 Nope. 840 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:31,800 Right up to his waist, buddy. 841 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,440 It was a full blown ditch and I was like half a step behind him. 842 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:40,520 I was getting ready to be in the same boat, but those are things that I think of that, 843 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,280 I don't know, they just make, like I said, little bloopers. 844 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,280 They make good stories. 845 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,200 Oh no, there's been many a nights. 846 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:53,240 Not too long ago actually, tried to cross a log in the middle of a cast, late round 847 00:45:53,240 --> 00:45:56,480 actually for a world qualifier events, what it was. 848 00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:01,960 And but I don't know, I made it about three feet out onto that log before I fell off into 849 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,240 12 foot deep water probably. 850 00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:06,240 In water at that. 851 00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:12,880 So by the time I made it back to land, I had been swept probably 20 yards down the, down 852 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,160 the creek and looked like an idiot in front of everybody and all that good stuff. 853 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,680 Kind of embarrassing, but I did win. 854 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,080 So I made it better, but always makes it better. 855 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,000 It better, but yeah. 856 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:31,560 So Caleb, you've kind of heard us ramble on and tell stories about training young dogs 857 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:36,880 and you hear Bryce's stories about his measuring stick. 858 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:43,600 And obviously you jumped into this in a very opportune situation. 859 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:51,600 You jumped right into it, hunting for a guy that already knew what a good dog was. 860 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,180 Talk to us a little bit about your measuring stick. 861 00:46:55,180 --> 00:46:57,580 Is it the dog you're hunting now? 862 00:46:57,580 --> 00:47:03,840 What exactly has this dog taught you that makes him your measuring stick? 863 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,080 Yeah. 864 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,000 I would say that he's probably the measuring stick. 865 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,720 When I first started years ago with the guy that I was telling y'all about from my dad's 866 00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:21,040 work, he had a blue tick that was super, super accurate dog. 867 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,960 And I can always just remember like every tree we went to had a king. 868 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:31,320 Obviously I know she missed some, but it just seems like memory. 869 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:32,720 Every tree we went to had a king. 870 00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:37,480 So I always like, when I start back, I'm going to have a dog that's going to have a king. 871 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:45,280 And Switch is pretty good about having his coons, but he moves around so good and he 872 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,400 stays out of trouble. 873 00:47:49,400 --> 00:48:03,560 He's not anything flashy, but he's just solid and that's kind of what I like in a dog. 874 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:08,000 I've been kind of looking for a young dog just to have something. 875 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:14,160 And man, it's just hard to find something that measures up just because it's so easy. 876 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,720 Because I like to hunt one dog, it's so easy to go out there to the pen and just pick him 877 00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:20,320 out and leave the pup standing there. 878 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,800 Because I know what he's going to do, you know, but. 879 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,760 Oh, that's where we're different. 880 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,800 Ask Bryce what I take with me whenever I go to the woods. 881 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,120 He pulls a dog trailer, Caleb. 882 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,120 He pulls a trailer. 883 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,080 No, yeah, no, I'm a one dog man. 884 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,200 And I like Bryce was talking about earlier too. 885 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,960 I get attached to him, I'm not going to lie. 886 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,320 And hey, me and Switch, we're buddies, man. 887 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,960 He's actually I took him to a hunt last night and he hurt his leg. 888 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,400 So I'm I'm reeling right now. 889 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:54,400 I don't know what to do. 890 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:55,400 I don't have a dog to hunt. 891 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:59,280 And like I said, I got a puppy in the back of the truck and literally just going to walk 892 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,000 it through the woods. 893 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,600 Who knows what's going to happen tonight? 894 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:07,000 Well, Caleb, make sure that you follow me on my Facebook page. 895 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,000 Steven Bachel. 896 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,000 I'm always got something. 897 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,720 Dude, he looks like the freaking National Lampoon's Christmas vacation. 898 00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:14,240 You go hunt with him. 899 00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:15,240 He got this old Toyota. 900 00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:18,280 I'm just going to tell a story on bashing here real quick. 901 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,040 This has been a lot of stories, but then we're going to get to the main reason why we got 902 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,040 Caleb on this podcast. 903 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,200 So you guys bear with us. 904 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,200 It's coming in. 905 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,480 Anyways, I pull up to Basher's house one day. 906 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,360 He said, hey, I got a lot of dogs for going hunting. 907 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,760 I said, oh boy, he's got this old Toyota. 908 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,840 What is like an 89 something like that? 909 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:34,840 I don't know. 910 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:35,840 It's old. 911 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,160 Got a flatbed on it. 912 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,720 Got a dog box, a full sized truck dog box. 913 00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:41,120 You got dog on each side. 914 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,120 No, I mean, you had two on one side, one of the three dogs in the dog box on the truck. 915 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,000 Then he had this trailer behind him. 916 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,600 They had another dog box. 917 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,880 It had like three more dogs in it. 918 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:56,440 In this trailer has got a toolbox mounted on it with a solar panel or whatever so he 919 00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,480 can charge all of his stuff and all these callers that he's got. 920 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,160 And we take off down this road at the time this he just put a new engine in this truck, 921 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:08,520 but this engine was struggling and we're taking off down the road and I'm in the passenger 922 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,220 seat and I think it took 17 minutes for us to hit 50 mile an hour. 923 00:50:12,220 --> 00:50:15,200 And I thought there was getting ready to be a rod coming out of the side of this block 924 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,840 coming through and taking out my ankles or something. 925 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,220 And I'm like, we are loaded down with dogs. 926 00:50:20,220 --> 00:50:23,620 We had dogs across the country. 927 00:50:23,620 --> 00:50:25,100 We had no side by side. 928 00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:26,100 We have no fuller. 929 00:50:26,100 --> 00:50:28,880 I'm like, Oh my gosh. 930 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,480 And I was like, No, I told him, I just, I told him, I said, Bash them from here on out. 931 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:33,480 We go hunting. 932 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,360 I said, I don't care if you bring one, maybe two dogs, but that's it. 933 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,840 Cause I'm bringing at least one and that's three dogs is plenty to hunt. 934 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,200 This man will take a trailer. 935 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,680 You ever want to see a circus? 936 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,160 I think that night we walked 13 miles. 937 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,320 Me and Bryce did. 938 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:50,320 It was ungodly. 939 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,000 It was ungodly, but all right. 940 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,800 So Kevin, Kevin Collins got ahold of us and he said, Hey, get a hold of Caleb. 941 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,520 He said, you know, you got to hear his story. 942 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,800 And he said, the reason you need to talk to him, he said, he just started hunting a couple 943 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,360 years ago and he just won a pretty big hunt. 944 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,320 So Caleb, tell us about this most recent hunt. 945 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,520 You just won down there in Claxton, Georgia, which is where I got screwed up there in the 946 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:10,520 intro. 947 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:11,520 So you just want to have in Claxton. 948 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,520 Let's walk us through it. 949 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:17,240 Um, I don't know if y'all are familiar with Curtis Todd. 950 00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:20,560 He runs that, um, that club there in Claxton. 951 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:26,080 He's a, he's a, I think what's that name? 952 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,880 Uh, Darlin he hunts the Darlin English female. 953 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:33,520 I think she's pretty high up in the breed race every year and all that kind of stuff. 954 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:34,520 Nice dog. 955 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:38,680 But anyway, um, he'd, uh, he'd been contacting everybody about maybe doing a little bit bigger 956 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:43,800 hunt for, for us down here in South cause we really don't have, you know, you, if you 957 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:48,600 look real hard and don't mind driving, you can find a thousand dollar pro classic or 958 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,080 something that you can make it to. 959 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,080 But, but other than that, that's about it for us. 960 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:56,840 We don't really have any bigger hunts, but anyway, so he come up with this side by side 961 00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:04,440 hunt and, um, 48 dog pro classic and everybody, everybody around the area jumped on it or 962 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,640 whatever and filled it in like a day. 963 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:13,600 And I actually didn't even have an entry and, uh, I had a buddy that we actually were just 964 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,360 pleasure hunting one night and he said, man, I'm not going to make it to that hunt. 965 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:18,360 And I was like, man, what in the world? 966 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,680 He said, I got a wedding coming up and I'm not going to be able to make it. 967 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,480 I said, well, I'll tell you what, I'll get your entry. 968 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,920 And I was actually going, uh, to Florida. 969 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:33,720 I was going to hunt the state hunt, uh, handle the dog for, uh, and, um, anyway, I decided 970 00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:37,320 nah, I'll stick around and hunt this hunt. 971 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:38,840 And uh, I don't know. 972 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,600 Every time I got to switch, he'd have a cone. 973 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,320 So we ended up winning it. 974 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,000 He looked really good at terrible weather. 975 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,760 We've been flooded for a couple of weeks now. 976 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,520 So was it a two night hunt? 977 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,800 Like was it a pro classic split over two nights? 978 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,640 That was two night hunt. 979 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,720 It, um, had to win obviously, uh, early and late Friday. 980 00:52:57,720 --> 00:53:00,880 And then the final three was Saturday night. 981 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:05,000 So walk me through that final cast, like, are you nervous going into it? 982 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,240 Like do you know, I got this in a bag. 983 00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:09,240 It was kind of funny, man. 984 00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:12,240 I really wasn't, I really wasn't too nervous or anything. 985 00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:18,560 I, um, I hate the sound like arrogant or whatever, cause I'm the father's thing from that. 986 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:22,880 But on the way to the hunt, I was like, my dad called and we were talking or whatever. 987 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:27,920 And I said, man, I just got this, I'm about to go win this side by side. 988 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,080 Like it's not even a, like a question. 989 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,560 Like I just knew I was going to win. 990 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:40,240 And um, but same time, same note, I was actually, the final three was the, uh, the other guy 991 00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:43,360 that I hunt for Kyle Griffin and his little Ruby dog. 992 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,360 Uh, they made it in also. 993 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,960 So I hunt her a lot. 994 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,640 So I know how dangerous she can be. 995 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:56,320 So that was kind of, and I didn't not to discredit the other guy, but, uh, I, you know, I never 996 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:57,320 hunted with him or anything. 997 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:58,720 I didn't, I didn't know his dog. 998 00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:05,160 But, um, I knew it could be a shootout between those two at least. 999 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,600 And uh, I don't know, man, it just turns out it, it was, uh, like I said, it's flooded. 1000 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,400 It had been raining for like three or four days straight. 1001 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,120 And uh, I hunt these Okefenokee swamps down here. 1002 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,000 So I knew mine, you know, was ready for the water. 1003 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,560 And I honestly, I think that was the difference maker. 1004 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,080 He just, he don't mind water. 1005 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,440 He got through there and he tree cones. 1006 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,440 He looked really good doing it. 1007 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,640 Bastion, did you have something? 1008 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:31,640 Okay. 1009 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,640 You were going to say something. 1010 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:35,640 Okay. 1011 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,520 So walk me through like the emotions at the end of that hunt. 1012 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:40,520 Like I want to know. 1013 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:46,040 Um, yeah, like we, we turned loose and I don't know. 1014 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,960 I think if you, if you don't get this feeling, you probably shouldn't be doing it. 1015 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:53,840 But until I struck my dog, I don't know that it's nerves or anxiety or whatever. 1016 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,480 But as soon as I struck in, I'm fine. 1017 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,000 But until I struck my dog, I'm all to pieces. 1018 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,640 But anyway, struck under it out of the truck. 1019 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:06,440 He drives in there in less than, I don't know, he probably less than five minutes off the 1020 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:07,440 clock. 1021 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,440 He's way in there and tree. 1022 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:14,280 I tree him in and get there and he's got a cone and Ruby actually don't necessarily think 1023 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,480 it was any fault of her own. 1024 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:20,840 We just kind of got her, we kind of got in her way and she come back through us and got, 1025 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:21,840 got minused on her strike. 1026 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:26,440 She was struck for 75 and man, that took a lot of the pressure off. 1027 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,280 So like at that point, I just kind of settled in. 1028 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,240 And anyway, he handled his dog there. 1029 00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:36,200 So we, we, we turned back loose and the, the other dog covered switch on that tree. 1030 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,200 So turn back loose. 1031 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,640 And of course I'm going to switch to go lay down somewhere. 1032 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:45,920 We got a big lead and he fires right out there and strikes a red hot track only dog bark 1033 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,300 and I have to strike him for a hundred. 1034 00:55:49,300 --> 00:55:53,280 So I'm kind of like, man, I really didn't want to, you know, I really didn't want to 1035 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,480 take a hundred straight there. 1036 00:55:55,480 --> 00:56:00,760 And then, uh, shortly after that, we start tightening up on dogs. 1037 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:05,920 We stopped listening to judge kind of looks over at me and I'm thinking, man, I just can 1038 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:06,920 hear him. 1039 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:11,080 But sure enough judge hears him puts the six on me, starts stationary. 1040 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:17,000 So then the nerves really are working because I'm, you know, I'm sitting here to 25 and 1041 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,200 I could give it, you know, everything, all my whole lead right here, I could give it 1042 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,200 right back. 1043 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,760 Um, get in there and he's got that thing. 1044 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:31,280 So that, I think we had like 20 minutes left, but that, you know, put me at four 50 and 1045 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:35,120 closest dog to me had a like 25 minus or something like that. 1046 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,720 So at that point, pretty much all the nerves were gone. 1047 00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:43,680 It was just kind of, holy crap, we won, you know? 1048 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:44,680 Yeah. 1049 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,560 So like, how does that work? 1050 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,360 Do you, do you get the side by side that night? 1051 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:52,360 Like do you trailer it? 1052 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:53,360 Like, how does that work? 1053 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,360 I want to know the process. 1054 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,600 Well, Curtis is the one that kind of set all that up, right? 1055 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,600 You know, he, he, he handled the hunt. 1056 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,200 He handled the getting the side by side and all that. 1057 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:12,120 Well, his wife has a baby, um, Thursday night, so he's not there. 1058 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:20,120 So anyway, his, his, uh, buddy or whatever is running the hunt and, uh, I'll be in and 1059 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,000 they're like, Hey man, we'll find a trailer. 1060 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,600 We'll load it up and you just bring the trailer back. 1061 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,080 And I'm kind of sitting there thinking like, man, like I'm going to have to pay like sales 1062 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,000 tax and stuff on this thing. 1063 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:36,080 And, and, and something, and they were kind of like, Oh yeah, I forgot about that. 1064 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:42,640 So anyway, luckily we're, uh, we're in the, uh, into some farming and stuff. 1065 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,520 So I got gate card, uh, took care of the sales tax. 1066 00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:51,200 So only thing I got in that side by side is the $350 entry fee. 1067 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,440 So it was pretty good deal. 1068 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:54,440 That is awesome. 1069 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,000 Have you been hunting off of it? 1070 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,000 Yeah. 1071 00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:03,360 You know, what's funny is I took it home and, um, I took it hunting one night, took it back 1072 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:09,320 home and my wife and little boy have been on it ever since. 1073 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,840 So no, I hadn't got to hunt off that much. 1074 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:13,840 It's not yours anymore. 1075 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:14,840 No, it's not mine. 1076 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:20,320 But I mean, luckily we have another one, which I say that is tore up right now from, from 1077 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,960 all these rough woods and all that, but I'll get it fixed. 1078 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:25,440 I'll just keep hunting off the old one. 1079 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,800 Let them, let them have the new one, I guess. 1080 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:33,440 Man, them side by side, they're a game changer in the right, I guess in the right area. 1081 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,840 So when I lived in Southern Indiana, I had my side by side and I loved it. 1082 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,360 I hunted off of it religiously. 1083 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:43,800 I mean, it was like, it was like the best tool I had in my toolbox, you know, you could 1084 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:44,800 just do so much work. 1085 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,720 You could train dogs, you could get to pups, you could save. 1086 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,440 I mean, everybody's knees only have so many cycles. 1087 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,640 I don't know if everybody knows that, but that's what I say all the time. 1088 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:57,720 These knees only got so many cycles and that side by side, it really saves those things. 1089 00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,720 You know, they're great, but like up here where I live now, I just don't have nowhere 1090 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,240 to hardly ride it. 1091 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:07,160 So it's, it sits in the barn more than anything because everything up here is state ground 1092 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,160 and you can't ride them on state ground. 1093 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:11,400 There's no gravel roads or nothing. 1094 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:12,760 It's all paved roads up here. 1095 00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:16,040 So if you're trying to get to a woods, it's just tearing a daylights out of the tires. 1096 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,300 You're going through tires like crazy. 1097 00:59:18,300 --> 00:59:21,800 You know, it's just, I don't know up here, it's not as big of a tool as it was down home. 1098 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:26,080 So I've actually, I've been trying to sell mine for a while and then I'm like, man, like 1099 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:30,480 if somebody really does buy it, now I'm going to be like a little upset because like I use 1100 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:34,000 it for just a little piddly stuff sometimes, but I just can't hardly justify it up here 1101 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,000 anymore. 1102 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,040 So in the right area, man, those things are, they're fantastic. 1103 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:38,040 You can't beat them. 1104 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,520 So I like full willer where I hunt at. 1105 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:42,520 I like my full willer. 1106 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:43,600 I can get it. 1107 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,480 I can put a one dog. 1108 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:46,480 Yes. 1109 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:51,560 A one dog box on the back of the full willer and I can get around the woods a whole lot 1110 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:52,560 better. 1111 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:53,560 Yeah. 1112 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:54,560 What were you saying, Caleb? 1113 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,840 It's kind of, it's kind of that way here. 1114 00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:01,880 I mean, you can hunt off of it, but our woods are so bad. 1115 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:07,080 I mean, you're going to, you're going to have to walk, you know, you can't really drive 1116 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:11,360 it through the woods or anything, but no, that's why I love to, that's why I love to 1117 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:12,880 hit those hunts up North man. 1118 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,280 Y'all, y'all don't know how blessed y'all are. 1119 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:16,280 Yeah. 1120 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:17,280 What was the name of that? 1121 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,280 Was it, was it, was that the, uh, the PKC rattlesnake roundup? 1122 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:20,280 Was that what that was? 1123 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:21,280 Yep. 1124 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:22,280 Yep. 1125 01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:23,280 Awesome. 1126 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,880 That's what they named it, but yeah, rattlesnake roundup. 1127 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,480 Well, so how many rattlesnakes did y'all round up? 1128 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:34,560 You know, it's funny, a quick story about where that gets its name from down here. 1129 01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:40,320 A rattlesnake roundup used to be like this huge thing. 1130 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:45,560 You would, you would hunt them all winter long and they would go around digging up gopher 1131 01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:51,520 holes and dig these rattlesnakes up and people would have literally have hundreds of them 1132 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,720 and they would take them to these roundups and sell them. 1133 01:00:54,720 --> 01:01:00,480 And that's where that, that's where that hunt is, is kind of like, it's in the middle of 1134 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,280 the whole festival or whatever, where they used to do that. 1135 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,240 But now of course with the animal rights and all that kind of stuff, they don't do that 1136 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:08,240 anymore. 1137 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:12,320 But, but yeah, it was a, uh, that used to be a big thing around here. 1138 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:13,320 Rattlesnake hunting. 1139 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,280 Have you ever ate rattlesnake? 1140 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,840 I legitimately, I heard it's good. 1141 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:18,840 Yeah. 1142 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,880 I, I, I've heard the same thing, but no, I'm not eating a snake. 1143 01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,400 I'm not a huge snake fan. 1144 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:28,520 I, I, I'm around them a lot just because we're, we eat up with cotton mouse down here where 1145 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:29,520 I hunt. 1146 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,000 They're around every, every stump. 1147 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,880 There's a cotton mouth on it, but no, I don't, I'm not a big snake guy. 1148 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:38,280 No, no sir. 1149 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:42,280 I'm not eating a snake. 1150 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,880 Sounds about like Jason Daltrey when he talks about snakes. 1151 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,080 All right guys. 1152 01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:50,560 Well, this has been fun. 1153 01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,160 I don't want to keep you guys too much longer. 1154 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,680 I know you're both going hunting. 1155 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,200 I am not going to hunt tonight. 1156 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:56,200 I'm going to go tomorrow night. 1157 01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,000 I got a couple of things I got to take care of here. 1158 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:02,600 So best luck to you guys in the woods, Basham, Caleb, either you guys got anything else you 1159 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,080 want to close out with? 1160 01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:08,120 Hey, just congratulations, bub. 1161 01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,680 Know that you're new to this. 1162 01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:13,600 You've like I said, you kind of jumped head first into it. 1163 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:19,520 And biggest thing I can say is just remember the good times when the bad times come because 1164 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:24,400 they will come and remember why you do it. 1165 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,540 You know, you're going to have lulls. 1166 01:02:26,540 --> 01:02:29,720 You're going to have times where you're like, why do I do this? 1167 01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:37,560 And as houndsman, I think we all hit that wall and it's doing exactly what you're doing 1168 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:38,560 right now. 1169 01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:44,160 You got such a love for it that the old dogs hurt and here you go walking the pup through 1170 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:45,920 the woods. 1171 01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,880 Just remember that always stay tuned to that. 1172 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:53,840 And there's just something about snapping that lead and turning that dog loose. 1173 01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:55,320 Oh, yeah. 1174 01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,120 Yeah, I know it's I've been blessed, man. 1175 01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:03,440 I've got lucky and you know, I won that side by side and I turned around that very next 1176 01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,360 Monday and won a little little cast right here around the house. 1177 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:10,320 And then I think I've hunted in two or either three cats since then and got my brains beat 1178 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:11,320 out. 1179 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:17,000 So it definitely definitely not automatic, unfortunately. 1180 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:22,680 But but yeah, you know, it don't take long in this game to realize you better learn to 1181 01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:23,680 lose. 1182 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,280 That's just part of it, especially around here, man. 1183 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:30,800 I'm telling you, we got some some really tough competition around here. 1184 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,200 Not a lot of them travel, so they kind of go under the radar. 1185 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,360 But there's some really nice dogs around here. 1186 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,920 Hey, I know I know how you feel about that. 1187 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,560 I mean, look where I live at, you know, right there in Evansville. 1188 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:46,520 I mean, just south, you got the burdens and you got dog tree and, you know, you got blitz 1189 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:51,400 with Rex Robinson, Jr., which if you've never hunted with him, coon dog, you know, you've 1190 01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,680 got Mike Gilbert and all his dogs. 1191 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,800 You got Logan race close. 1192 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,720 I mean, it's just dog after dog. 1193 01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:03,160 And then you got the shable dogs to the, you know, to the West with Brandon Costell, man, 1194 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:04,160 and all them. 1195 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,600 You got you got drive line pups right there in your area, too. 1196 01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:07,880 That's the drive on Mecca. 1197 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,880 Yeah, you got drive line right there at Junction. 1198 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,040 I mean, it's just it just never stops. 1199 01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,640 I mean, it's just it's always something. 1200 01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:23,040 So I mean, you can go to a thirty dollar hunt and draw a world champion, you know, in legs. 1201 01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:30,680 And it's just every every cast you go to is it's it's exciting and it's challenging all 1202 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:35,280 at the same time and a quick shout out just because of where you're from. 1203 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:40,080 You're down there with a guy that I have the utmost respect. 1204 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:41,080 Great man. 1205 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:42,080 Mr. Adam Campbell. 1206 01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:43,080 Awesome individual. 1207 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:44,080 Awesome individual. 1208 01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:45,080 Yeah. 1209 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:50,200 Adam's only like probably 45 minutes west of me. 1210 01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:51,200 So yeah. 1211 01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:52,200 Yeah. 1212 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:53,200 Good guy. 1213 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:54,200 Really good guy. 1214 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:55,200 I like Adam a lot. 1215 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:56,200 Yeah. 1216 01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:57,200 You don't get no better guy than Adam. 1217 01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:58,200 All right, guys. 1218 01:04:58,200 --> 01:04:59,700 Well, we're going to wrap it up here, guys. 1219 01:04:59,700 --> 01:05:01,440 Thank you so much for joining us tonight. 1220 01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,280 Basham, Caleb, it's been fun. 1221 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,080 Listeners, thank you for sticking around with us. 1222 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,840 I hope you guys are enjoying the Semperdoggin podcast. 1223 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,080 Basham and I are having a lot of fun getting to meet new people like Caleb. 1224 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,760 Like I said, this is the first time we've ever met each other. 1225 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:17,920 Didn't know him from Adam, but through another friend, Kevin, you know, we were able to sit 1226 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,520 down and bring you guys this podcast. 1227 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,360 So thank you to Kevin Collins. 1228 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,080 Thanks again, Caleb, for joining us. 1229 01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:27,000 If you guys are interested in any Semperdoggin hats or shirts, Basham and I still got plenty 1230 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,000 of those. 1231 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,000 Reach out to us. 1232 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,200 We've got you guys hooked up. 1233 01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:32,560 Make sure to support our sponsors. 1234 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,560 Those are people who are supporting you. 1235 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:39,120 Froggy Bottom Outdoors, Never Satisfied Off-Road, Shane Smith and Joey Goforth, two of the best 1236 01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:40,260 guys in the game right now. 1237 01:05:40,260 --> 01:05:43,760 So make sure if you guys need any hunting supplies, see Froggy Bottom Outdoors. 1238 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:48,120 If you need anything, Caleb, if you ever need any parts for your side by side, Never Satisfied 1239 01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,760 Off-Road, 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Tuesday, live on the Semperdoggin podcast Facebook 1252 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:22,280 group. 1253 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:26,040 That's where you guys can see the raw, unedited, uncut, behind the scenes versions of this 1254 01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:29,160 podcast where Basham and I really get to cut up and interact with you guys. 1255 01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,320 So thank you guys for joining us. 1256 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:32,320 Thanks for tuning in. 1257 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,320 Basham, Caleb, once again, thank you. 1258 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:36,320 Thank you. 1259 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:37,320 Thank you. 1260 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:38,320 Tonight has been fun. 1261 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,600 So if you guys don't have anything else, we're going to sign off out of here. 1262 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:41,600 No, have a good one. 1263 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,600 Hey, have a good night hunting Caleb. 1264 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:47,240 And until next time, I'll see you later. 1265 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