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Canines are our passion.

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They are our addiction.

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They are our way of life right down to the very core and without them we would be lost.

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The canines of this world really are something to behold.

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They assist us at work, they accompany us at home, and they perform for us in the field.

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No matter where we go, they are by our side.

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Canines really are a ride or die and for that we are grateful.

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This podcast will showcase working canines of various breeds and disciplines as we search

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for those canines and their handlers who are always striving to be the best at what they

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do.

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Those who are always grinding.

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Those who are always pushing the limits.

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Those who are always dogging.

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Join us on our adventures as it is sure to be a wild ride.

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I'm your host, Bryce Matthews.

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And I'm your co-host, Stephen Basham.

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And this, this is Simper Dogging.

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God bless it.

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I tell you what, you guys are rough on a guy.

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You know that?

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You're rough on a guy.

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Oh yeah, we know.

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Never, never, never, never.

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We all say that we're coon hunters.

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My dog's never done that.

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Lane, has your dog ever done something dumb and you said my dog's never done that?

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Hey man, all the time.

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All the time.

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I'd be lying to you if I was said they didn't.

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The worst part of all that is when you go, man he ain't never done that and you know

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darn good and well that everybody's looking at you thinking you're a djy.

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Yup, yup, yup, exactly.

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That's what mine does and I'm like yeah he's junk.

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He does this all the time.

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You can pat him on the head a couple times.

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Well it's a good thing I already hit the record button now so everybody knows when Stephen

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Basham says my dog has never done that they know he's a liar.

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Guys welcome, welcome, welcome to the first official Simper Dogging podcast where we have

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another guest on here.

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If you guys tuned in to our last episode you heard it was just me and Basham cutting up,

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shooting a crap, just talking to you guys kind of about where this podcast is going

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to be heading.

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We're super glad that you're joining us.

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If you guys have followed along for any time with me on the Deep and Lonely podcast, I

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sure enough appreciate you for that and I'm hoping that by adding a co-host on here, adding

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somebody else who's knowledgeable about hounds, canines, dog sports, that this podcast is

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going to go to new heights, it's going to go to new levels and you guys are going to

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be able to get all kinds of content that's just different from what you're getting.

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It's not so mundane.

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It's not focused on one niche deal and that's kind of what we're hoping to do here.

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So to start things off right though, we have recruited a guest today from the southern

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Well I don't know are you southern, are you more southern or more western?

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I'm in northeast Oklahoma so if you want to call that the midwest part of the states,

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I don't know where you call it.

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I'm out here in the middle of nowhere really.

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A legend.

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Do you follow the Midwest versus everybody on Facebook?

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Do those memes apply to you?

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I don't.

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I don't follow that.

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I'm about to check it out I guess.

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Is it pretty good?

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Oh it's great.

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It's great memes all about the Midwest and so I mean that's how I usually can tell if

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somebody's Midwest or not.

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Do the memes apply to you or not?

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So you're going to have to check it out.

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I'll check that out and I'll get back with you on that one.

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I think we're behind the times on the memes.

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Alright guys, well if you haven't recognized that voice before, you're going to know it

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after this podcast.

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That is the familiar voice of Mr. Lane Denny from Oklahoma Lane.

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How are you today brother?

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Man I'm good.

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How are you guys?

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I can't complain.

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Bash them?

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What's going on in your end of the world?

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We're a little under the weather but hey you got to fight through it.

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Suck it up buttercup.

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I know that's what I always tell you.

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I know he told me that all the time.

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We'll be out hunting and bricycle.

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Oh man let's just load them up.

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Let's just go home.

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I'll be like suck it up buttercup.

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Let's go.

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Oh man Lane, what are you working on right now?

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What's your project?

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We're going to get into what your has beens and what you've been winning with but what

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do you got going on right now?

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Man I'm hunting, I've got an 11 month old pup off a shot and this pup's mama is off

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a Zed 3 and Hoochie mama.

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We call him Juice.

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I'm partners with him on a man.

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Mike Reed is his name.

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Mike has started this puppy.

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I think he started treading coons about five and a half months old.

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I recently got him probably about three weeks ago.

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Just been hunting him pretty hard and really trying to, it's crazy to say this but trying

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to get him ready for this spring coming up.

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He's a fall, he'll be a fall one year old.

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I've just been pleasure hunting him and pleasure hunting Shot and I've got another puppy off

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a shot that's a half sibling to this male pup that I've been hunting and really just

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pleasure hunting them pups and trying to get them right really.

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Yeah we're going to dive into that here a little bit because one thing that I do want

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to pick your brain on is Shot and not so much what he's won because if anybody knows anything

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about coon hunting, competition coon hunting, they know what he's won.

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But I want to get into how you pleasure hunted him last winter because I believe you went

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through a little spell there where you said you just got back to the basics with him and

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did some pleasure hunting if I remember correctly.

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Absolutely, yeah absolutely man.

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We had to hit the reset button on him.

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Well guys if you haven't before, Lane has been on several podcasts.

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This is not his first podcast, this ain't his first rodeo.

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So what we don't like to do, we don't like to talk about the same stuff everybody talked

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about but we still need to know who Lane is if you haven't ever heard him before and we

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appreciate you tuning into our podcast to get the info.

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So Lane give us just a brief description, who you are, where you're from, when you started

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coon hunting and then we're going to start just building this up to where we are today.

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Yeah man I'm 27 now I guess.

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It's crazy to think that, I'm telling you how old I am.

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But yeah I'm going to think about how old he is.

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Yeah, yeah that's when you know you're getting old.

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But 27, live in Oklahoma, the northeast part of the state.

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Married to a pretty good woman, got to shout her out.

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But yeah man I'm just a simple guy, I'm a decent mechanic for a living.

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I don't coon hunt for a living, a lot of people think I do.

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You know a lot of people think man you know just he hunt for a living, no I don't.

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I still work from 9 to 5 you know I got banker hours thankfully I work for my brother.

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But yeah man I'm just a simple guy I guess.

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When did you get into the coon hunting thing?

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Is this something that has always been, did you grow up doing it?

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Did you get into it in your teen years?

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When did you get into it?

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Yeah so actually my dad got me into it, just a quick little back story.

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My dad done it growing up, he just had pleasure hounds you know man they'd run deer, tree

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pot, they're just crazy.

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I mean they might tree a coon every once in a while you know.

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So my mom's family and my dad's family is kind of family friends and they kind of lived,

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they grew up just a couple miles from each other.

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But my dad when he was in high school he would like through the woods it was like 3 miles

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from my mom's house and he'd turn them dogs loose and of course back then you know his

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dogs they wouldn't go hunting hardly they'd kind of hunt around him.

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He'd walk all the way to my mom's house and shoot whatever they'd tree, possums, coons

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you know whatever.

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So my dad got me into it when I was 12.

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He bought me a couple of pups and man my brother got into it with me.

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My brother's 9 years older than me but he got into it with me too.

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But we started them two pups and I'll be honest with you man the rest is history.

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You know it's crazy the first time that I ever went I just knew that I'd be doing this

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as long as I was able to walk.

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Man I'll be coon hunting and I knew that.

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It was hook line and sinker it was just something that I guess it was a bug that bit me.

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You know I guess it was kind of like a drug for a drug addict you know but I've just

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been doing it ever since man.

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It's an addiction for sure.

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I mean I can agree with that like the first time I really went coon hunting was in college

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and addiction like you said I knew from right then and there like okay this is what I want

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to do.

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I don't know how I'm going to do it.

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I'm getting a late start on this but this is what I'm going to do.

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It's kind of crazy you just when a bug bites you it's there.

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Oh absolutely absolutely.

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I think it's one of those deals where you either got it or you don't you know what I

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It's I think coon hunting is unlike anything else.

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Once you do it and you love it there might be a time in your life where you might grow

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away from it go to college or whatever you know but man you'll always find yourself back

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at it and that's kind of something I did too.

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When I went to college I thought man I'm going to sell my stuff and so anyways I kept my

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dog I kept Demi and I sold my box I sold my rifle I sold everything and long story short

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I went to college about 30 minutes didn't know it at the time but I went to college

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about 30 minutes from George Major's house and if you're a coon hunter you know who the

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legend is you know George Major's appearance and so anyways I got I knew who he was obviously

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and I didn't know he lived that close but anyways I hooked up with him ended up bringing

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my dog up and bought all my stuff bought another Garmin bought another box I ended up getting

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back into it.

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I was out of it for about three months I guess I wasn't out of it very long.

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Just enough to upgrade all your equipment.

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I've done that a time or two.

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Well guys what we really want to talk about here is is Demi and you heard Lane mention

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her earlier you know that's the dog he had when he was in college and that's the one

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thing he didn't sell I bet you're glad you didn't aren't you?

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Yeah absolutely man that dog has been an absolute blessing to me and my family and everybody

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that she is that you know that's hunted her you know I've had a couple guys hunt her she's

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just been an awesome blessing it's unreal you know it's crazy to think a way the way

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a coon hound can bless somebody you know and do what she's done for me and my family it's

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crazy it's awesome it's a good deal.

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Yeah so Spavinaw Creek in St. Emi where did the Spavinaw Creek come from is that a creek

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around your house like I'm guessing?

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Yeah so yeah that's uh that was the creek that I grew up coon hunting as a kid that

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was that was the creek the very first time I ever went coon hunting was on Spavinaw Creek

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uh my dad lived at when I grew up on a about a 90 acre farm I think it was and it kind

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of joined the creek there and man we would coon hunt all the way down that creek and

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uh so that's kind of where I got my start at and I've had dogs before her you know and

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um just you know I never really named anything like that I just whatever was on their papers

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I would just put them in my name I didn't really have a you know a thing and I got her

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and man I just knew she was something special and I thought man I just want to name her

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after that you know because you know that that creek bottom is is what uh what hooked

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me into this thing and and what's really ultimately come to change my life forever you know so

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that's where I got that and the insane part of it a lot of people asking me like well

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she off of you know insane cane or anything like that and she she don't go back to none

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of that but when she was a puppy man she she acted insane like you could have her tied

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to the tied to a truck and if somebody walked by you think she's gonna eat them alive just

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be underneath the truck growling at them you know and just she was just crazy acting but

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really she grew out of that course you know with age but um we just called her that and

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and it just kind of stuck with her so did you get her as a pup a pup pup like have you

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done all the training and everything on her yeah yeah man I got her she was 10 months

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old when I bought her um I uh I got her from a guy that lives not far over here from me

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and and uh she had actually just she was natural she treated he hunted her probably three or

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four nights and I think she treated coon the first night he turned her loose um and uh

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this guy goes through a lot of dogs he he's not real good about keeping one and and uh

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I had to you know go back a little bit I had a blue tick yeah I hunted blue ticks believe

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me man we don't need Chris Powell to hear that goodness gracious I hate to even admit that

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but no I had a blue tick and and he was a good old man and I didn't have a tracking system

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enough and I lost him and I just I just thought it I mean it just took the air out of him

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I wanted to quit so I'd been looking for a dog and and uh I had a couple I'd been through

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a couple dogs and I even at the time I actually had a black and tan and uh were you scraping

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the bottom of the barrel or what were you doing here he was singing the blues after

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losing the blue tick uh yes something I don't know what I had going on I was at a dark point

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of my life I guess you could say well he was singing the blues and then he went to a dark

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place in his life and he went to black and tans and I've been all over the board and

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then he saw the light and he got a walker yeah I don't know about that some nights I

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wonder some nights I wish I would have stayed the blue tick pleasure hunter but no I had

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that black and tan and I'd heard about this dog Emmy and uh I hit the guy up and I'm like

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hey I heard you got a pretty nice walker female and and he's like man she's just a puppy I've

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just hunted her a couple times but she has treated coon and and this guy likes trading

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around on dogs and I uh I said hey I've got a black and tan and the black dog would treat

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coon um he just he wasn't nothing like the blue tick I had was you know and and I'm like

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hey I'll do some swapping with you so anyways I traded him that black and tan and four hundred

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and fifty dollars for and she was a 10 month old puppy and I got her and and uh and the

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rest is history I mean we we I went to hunt her and I knew from the first night I turned

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her loose uh she actually didn't treat coon for me for a little while at the first night

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I turned her loose she run drunk junk and actually I think she's run a coyote and she

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got run coyote into a into a uh brush file but um I just knew you know she had heart

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um you turned her loose with dogs even as a 10 month old puppy man she'd just be over

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to herself you know through there and that's the same way that blue dog was and I just

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knew that was the type of hound that I wanted you know I knew if I was going to competition

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hunt that was the type of hound that I needed to have to compete and so I just seen that

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you know those tools in her and I just went to hunt her you know and and she was all I

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had so just me and her and man I coon and coon hunted her hard I there was I remember

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several nights you know I would literally go home I would hunt all night um I'd go home

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and and take a shower might take an hour nap and get up and go to school you know I mean

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just you know we and it's just crazy but that's that's how we were we just we was just we

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hunted you know I hunted the heck out of her but what's she off of uh she's actually not

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off anything special um her her daddy's a dog called gorgeous gomer ronnie uh ronnie

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patten known to him from Tennessee um and uh gomer he goes back to bulldozer uh smith's

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bulldozer and that's they say that's where she gets her color from the guys that I've

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kind of talked to about her um because you know she's kind of a hot tan looking dog those

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that don't haven't ever seen her but um and then uh and then she goes back to uh uh james

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atwell's uh not uh nighttime that savage dog and uh but nothing special she goes back to

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rat attack a couple times and maybe nail her a couple times but nothing nothing great you

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know nothing that you'd like man you know that right there she's bred out of this world

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you know yeah sometimes them dogs like that they make the best ones and buddy she has

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proved to be a good one good one for you how old is she now uh she is uh 11 she is 11 years

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old is she really yep yeah she's a 2012 model i'm telling you i really didn't think she was

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that old now yeah yeah she turned 11 in may holy cow well that that guys i'm not gonna

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i'm a little mind-blowing right now that's crazy so so you got her trained her as a pup

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yeah yeah so uh 2014 um i put her in some hunts and some you know open hunts and stuff

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and uh i think i'm pretty sure i won i won a thousand for nationals course i don't i

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don't know in 2014 i don't know how old i was i don't think i was driving yet but so

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i would just go to hunts when i could you know but i ended up winning her money for

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nationals and took her to the youth world hunt and found some luck out there and and

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uh got lucky and and uh made the final four of that deal and ended up winning it somehow

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but um it's just one of them deals it was a it was a she performed good but we caught

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some really good breaks along the way it was just a hunt we was mentally and i feel like

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that's what it takes to win you know that sometimes it's not just about the ability

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sometimes you know you you take a guy that's meant to win something and it just seems like

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it's like the carpets rolled out for him you know it's it's just and i've been on both

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both sides of it i've been on been in hunts where you know i'm thinking there's no way

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i can possibly lose this cast and and get blown out of the water you know get beat or

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or catch a bad break or something and then i've been on cast where i'm like man i should

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not win this cast prime example um she made the finals of the youth handler showdown the

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year that she won that we won the youth world hunt i drew a hillbilly deluxe um i drew

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the awesome dog that won the pkc world hunting a couple years prior to that and the sundown

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shine female and and here i am hunting a two-year-old young dog and and i'm thinking there is absolutely

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no way that i'm going to win this cast you know and uh anyways this that was early and

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uh she treated two coons nothing else treated coon and we won and went to the final cast

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of that deal you know and it's just just one of them deals you know it's just you just

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can't ever tell but i'm like you bash him i feel like when a guy's meant to win something

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there ain't nothing that can stop him you know i feel like he's gonna catch everything

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can break he needs and and then when you're not meant to win when you're in a slump it's

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it's the same way you know it's it's this this sport is a sport of of highs and lows

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absolutely it's it's unreal it's crazy it's humbling for sure it is absolutely absolutely

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that's the best way to describe it is it is a very humbling sport very the minute you

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think you're on top here comes the axe i've always told guys you know something i've learned

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you know you can hunt as hard as you want to hunt and you can have one as ready as you

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think you got it but that don't you throw all that out the window and you line them

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up against three other ones and and cut them loose in the cast i mean um especially on

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the bigger levels because every dog's gonna treat coons i mean it's just gonna be honestly

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if some guys like i don't believe in luck and and i i disagree with them i feel like

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you know if whoever a lot of the times when you turn four good ones loose at the same

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time whoever catches a break is more likely gonna win the cast i mean one break could

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win a cast or could lose a cast for somebody for sure so so 2014 you can't even drive yet

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you're still hunting this dog like crazy go out you win the youth world champion or the

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pkc youth world championship next year 2015 you take it to the chkc youth world and you

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put her in the final three of that hunt is that luck uh yeah i think so that's what i'm

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gonna count it to uh you know but uh you know we we i just hunted her man and and i had

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her she was on a roll i mean that goes back to being lucky i think you know when you get

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on the roll you better keep going we won the youth world hunt in october and the following

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spring was the chkc youth world hunt and uh you know she looked good out there she done

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what she had to do um you know it was it was good cast made the final three uh caught a

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bad break in the final three honestly that i mean just it could have cost us the world

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championship but it is what it is we ended up third you know so uh it is what we just

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blessed to be in the final three of another youth world hunt it was it was cool it was

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a cool experience that to give you a little credit lane i mean it's it's also where you

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know hard work meets luck you know what i mean yeah you can get lucky but i mean there's

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a lot of hard work that goes into it too oh yeah absolutely you know i feel like uh you

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know i i just it's one of them deals i i've always said this and it don't matter what

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it is in life in general but you know the harder you work uh sometimes the luckier you'll

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get you know and and uh just kind of like you said i mean it's it's uh you gotta you

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gotta be prepared for whenever you know it is your time i mean you gotta have you gotta

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have your ducks in a row and you gotta be your work has got to be put in i mean that's

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that's 99 percent of it in my opinion i mean you got you got to be ready for whenever whenever

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you do get lucky and uh catch a few breaks you know yeah so then you didn't stop there

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in 2015 the oklahoma state tell us about that with uh ukc yeah so uh the oklahoma state

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ukc hunt was held in a day or oklahoma um and uh so when i was a kid back up a little

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bit gotta give a little bit of credit uh carl reed i give carl reed half interest in me

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he tried his like he tried his best to buy her i knew what i had i didn't want to get

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rid of her but he was a great dog man she was a young dog i had a lot to learn myself

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about training dogs and so i told him i'm like i tell you what i'll do man i'm like

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you know i've heard nothing but good about you um i'll give you half of her uh if you

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want to take her and hunt her and help you know help me along you know just kind of give

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me pointers here and there and he hauled us around before we had our license and he took

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us to youth world hunt um stuff like that but it was the state ukc hunt was held at

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his club um and uh i believe i was a freshman in college i had i had emmy i wasn't even

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hunting her a whole lot yet at this point i don't think i'd met george yet i didn't

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know george lived at there but i left him college on a friday and drove down there uh

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got lucky and won my cast uh both nights and back then it was you know the high scoring

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double cast winner was your state champion they didn't have a final cast hunt off or

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nothing like that like we do our state hunt now but we ended up winning our cast both

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nights and and ended up winning the oklahoma state ukc championship and it was it was a

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cool thing i'd i'd that was a goal that i'd always wanted to win you know you see you

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know it's you know it's it's always a big hunt to win i feel like i mean uh and and

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it was it was a cool experience you know we've won a dog box and i've still got that dog

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box today um i told myself when i won that thing i'm like i'm never going to get rid

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of that dog box you know it was it was probably i mean i won sure the youth world hunt uh

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and that was a cool experience in that plaque but that dog box man i was a kid and i was

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proud of that thing i loved hauling that dog around in it did you ever put the dog box

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in the truck that you won i have yes yes i have um but at at that point uh the dog box

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was about wore out but i still used it well walk us through that man you went you went

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down there to the truck hunt and i'd be darned if you didn't win that thing with her too

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and i vividly remember that picture on pro hound of you and her in on the front cover

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right there in the driver's seat you and all emmy yeah man i tell you it gives me goosebumps

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right now thinking of that you know because that was the deal go back to like bashing

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them and i were talking just a second ago that was a hunt that i 100 was meant to win

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um that hunt was decided i feel like before i even turned my dog loose and um i'm not

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saying that to sound cocky or it's nothing like that but it's so we didn't even get a

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truck ticket that year um we ran for we ran in two months uh we ran in the month of may

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and then we run for one in the month of september both months we missed a truck ticket the at

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large has come around we don't get an at large bid and i'm thinking man maybe we'll be an

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alternate you know and and so anyways goes on there rocks on there we're not an alternate

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nobody calls us literally like three days before the truck hunt i get a i'm working

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at work i worked with my brother back then too i was rebuilding the motor and i sat in

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the shop floor and uh my phone rings and it was an 812 number and i'm thinking i don't

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know who that is you know but and i just had a feeling i'm like man you better answer that

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well i don't answer it and we go on lunch break i'm like i'm gonna call this whoever

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it is that call him back and it's jerry jerry mull and he worked for pkc at the time and

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he said hey he's like uh uh brenton caultzman's female come into heat and he just called us

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said he's not gonna make it do you want to come up for a new truck and i said absolutely

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i do and uh so like three days before the truck hunt my dog i'll be 100 honest with

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you guys man i hadn't been hunting her hard she wasn't it wasn't like i had already you

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know because all i just lost hope i'm like man i'm not gonna get to go hunt the truck

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hunt uh you know and it's kind of i think it was kind of a bad winter that year that

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i was in here if i remember right so i'm like it is what it is we'll try again next year

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and so anyways i get off the phone and i go in the office and i ask my brother i'm like

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hey can i take off for work friday and he's like why and i'm like well i told him and

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he said yeah man no problem he said go to go in your new truck and uh i told myself

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i'm like man i just i had a feeling like when i got there i'm like man this is just too

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much is lined up for me to have to come and hunt for this truck like you know i feel like

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this is a blessing sent from god himself and and i'm like if i keep if i can get lucky

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and win my early round like i feel like i can win this truck and uh go early round man

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we were we had a horrible hunt a dent tree is winning our cast in he's blowed out of

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the country and it's real hilly where we're hunting that surprisingly and uh uh doug

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compton's my judge and and it's winding down there toward the end of the cast course my

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dog showing her treat on the garment and i've got to get to where i gear man i'm just sick

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and it works out to where all these dogs are on the dog lead because i was struck in and

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uh i'm so the six is working and we're i'm like hey we need to walk to the top of this

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hill right here so we take off and we're huffing and puffing and doug compton stayed with me

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the whole way and we get up to the top of this hill and you can hear a treat in there

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man and uh so anyways i i uh they doug hears them they get cut back loose before i get

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treated in i was just i was just shocked at the time you know i could even hear and uh

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i get her treat in and and uh anyways uh we go into her the hunt runs out as we're getting

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to her and she's got a coon to advance to the next round and and that right there i

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i caught some breaks like that to win the youth world hunt just kind of a different

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scenario so i'm like and maybe this is this maybe this maybe maybe this is meant to be

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and uh late round we had a shootout uh i ended up winning the cast i think she treated three

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coons and i think we treated like seven total i treated three another dog treated three

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and then another dog treated one um and then we was in the final four uh you know and and

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uh that was just cool in itself you know to be in the final cast of the truck hunt um

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you know i just i just i think i was just barely old enough to get in the casino like

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i just turned 18 and uh but i was i was in it shane comings was in the final cast with

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this and he's a local guy here too you know and he was hunting shack yep he was hunting

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shack um you know so he kind of kind of calmed my nerves a little bit shy and for those that

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don't know shane he's a joker man he loves tracking up joking and uh i remember i was

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on the phone with amy thomas and she was doing my interview and he walks by me and he says

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hey lane go ahead and tell her the second place ain't too bad for a kid and we just

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started laughing you know and and uh he was just giving me a hard time but anyways man

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just just got lucky and uh won the final cast that thing and won a new truck it was it was

419
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:46,640
unbelievable man it was it was an experience that i didn't think i was ever going to get

420
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:52,840
to achieve again um but you know god works in amazing ways and and uh you know he's he's

421
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:57,720
blessed this blessed this ultimately again you know this last winter but uh it was it

422
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:03,760
was awesome it really was yeah so so you go out there you win the truck at how old is

423
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:09,720
she when you won the truck uh so it'd been 2018 so she was a six-year-old so she's a

424
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:14,040
seasoned she's a seasoned dog at this point you know i really think she's in her prime

425
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:20,480
at that time absolutely absolutely uh you know she she has a as a one-year-old she was

426
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:26,360
she was deadly she was a very nice dog and she went she got him into heat um went through

427
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:31,720
a rough stage and kind of never found herself again until she was about four and a half

428
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:36,880
and then when she was four and a half five she settled down and and uh man she she was

429
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,760
absolutely she was the she was the right kind i mean she was everything that anybody would

430
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,320
have loved to have on the end of their lead she was one that could never count out i don't

431
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,240
care there's if there was five minutes in a cast and she was off the dog league you

432
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:54,240
couldn't count her out as long as she was within striking distance you know what what

433
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:59,440
made you keep a hold of her and hunt her through that rough here from one to four and a half

434
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,480
i mean that's a long time where she didn't really have ever find herself again what what

435
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,080
made you just hold on to her and not you know if you had guys wanting to buy her why didn't

436
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:12,480
you just send her down the road make a little cash man uh you know i'll tell you it was

437
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:17,200
it's just one of them deals i mean i i'm a person that kind of gets feelings about things

438
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:23,600
and i i look for even in the bad even in the bad i look for something good um you know

439
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:28,360
me me i've grown up as a kid i played sports i wasn't ever the fastest or the strongest

440
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:34,160
but i had the work ethic and uh you know and i i saw that in her i saw it's crazy kind

441
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,920
of corny to say that i guess but i saw her work ethic i saw the heart she had and i knew

442
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:44,080
if she would just stick it out with me um that uh you know i could make her make her

443
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,760
not really make her but i feel like that she was going to be that type of dog that was

444
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,200
going to grow into herself again she i was just going to be patient with her and ultimately

445
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:57,320
man it just worked out you know um you know she was she was all i had really at the time

446
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:02,720
and i liked her um i liked even even when she looked bad i liked what she done if that

447
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:08,120
makes sense um she had all the tools that i liked in one i mean uh and and what what

448
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,360
her bad thing was is she was just inconsistent i mean she would have nights where she looked

449
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,080
pretty good you know but just inconsistent she might make it you know two or three extra

450
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:22,560
trees that she don't need to make um you know and and uh but when she was like i said when

451
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:27,480
she was that you know had a little age on her she settled down and she became more consistent

452
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:32,920
and but i just just ultimately i guess answer your question i just knew like i i knew i seen

453
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,120
the good in her you know and and i was like man i just i can't give up on her yet you

454
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:42,240
know and and so i didn't i just stuck it out and it just worked out yeah you taking notes

455
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:47,320
on that patience thing brice with you and your pup buddy

456
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:57,560
patience brice patience i know so so as we're recording this here it's um we're recording

457
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:02,920
this on november 30th and you know it's going to be well into january for you guys hear

458
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:08,680
this but it's a good thing i'm getting ready to be gone for a week starting tomorrow because

459
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,600
i think me and her both need a break from each other

460
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:20,160
i'm leaving tomorrow again about patience just went whenever it gets rough you just

461
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:26,560
gotta gotta rub your ears and say wu saw wu saw i'm gonna have to try that because by

462
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,600
guy last night it was like freaking 12 30 in the morning and i'm tromping through the

463
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:35,360
thickest stuff on the reservoir trying to get to this dog and she struck this track

464
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:41,280
by the road and buddy she drove it and i'm like oh yes this is going to be a good one

465
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:46,400
and she let out three big old long balls make the hair on the back of your neck stand up

466
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:54,520
and she rolled it over into a chop and i mean i freaking busted brush in there to her nothing

467
00:34:54,520 --> 00:35:00,840
not just nothing i mean i mean i was just so let down i was so every everything was

468
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,400
right it's like you said it was supposed to it was meant to be the stars were aligning

469
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:11,080
no no it didn't happen look for the good and bad brash it's all i can tell you the good

470
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,760
and the bad was i was able to find a better way out than what i took in because it was

471
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:22,080
rough going in there you go but no man it's good that you stuck it out with her because

472
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:29,480
it kept going it went up from there with her 2019 you accomplished something that i've

473
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:35,000
been wanting to accomplish basham's been wanting to accomplish 99 percent of the guys in the

474
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:41,200
competition koonhunter wanting to accomplish you sir became the united kennel club world

475
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:49,000
champion walk us through it man it was it was cool uh so that year we had the zones

476
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:55,720
um in uh miami oklahoma which is about an hour from me i guess uh and uh that was the

477
00:35:55,720 --> 00:36:01,320
first time that i'd ever even got a dog got a cast went at an rqe that was at the time

478
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,320
that was my goal i'm like man i just want to win a cast at an rqe i just always had

479
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:13,000
a bad luck bad luck bad luck at rqes and um anyways i get her qualified in gerard kansas

480
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:19,240
and uh we uh i go to uh the zones there at the house i get to guide and i won my cast

481
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:25,720
the first night and uh i didn't have a very good score uh i cost her i treated her right

482
00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:29,720
up she's running wide open treat her out of the truck you know me being a great handler

483
00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:33,840
than i am i treat her out of the truck and took a minus thank goodness she treated two

484
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:39,520
coons and made up for it but i knew i was i knew i was gonna have to uh to win the next

485
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:45,160
night to advance and got lucky and treated the only coon we seen the next night and uh

486
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:49,720
you know we made it to the finals of the world hunt for the first time going into it i had

487
00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:55,440
no expectations i was just pumped to be there you know i was just excited and and i thought

488
00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:00,880
man this is cool you know i and first time i ever got a dog to an rqe and i got through

489
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,680
the zones and i was just writing it off to beginners luck honestly i'm like yeah we'll

490
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:11,520
probably get beat the first round but hey top 100 ain't bad and uh we uh we won our

491
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:17,840
first round uh just another deal man she just kind of like the truck hunt got out of pocket

492
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:22,640
it was hilly believe it or not we's in iowa but we went way out in western iowa and it's

493
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:28,920
hilly and uh she got way out of pocket these other dogs was making trees um nothing had

494
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,880
treated coon uh finally get to the top of the hill and in here she's standing in her

495
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:38,880
tree got her struck and treated in um these other dogs end up getting treated too and

496
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,320
but they couldn't beat me if i had a coon and i ended up having a coon every dog ended

497
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:48,240
up having a coon but nobody could beat me and uh you know we won early and i was like

498
00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:54,000
heck yeah that's cool you know so we we go to the next round there and and uh that was

499
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:59,120
back you had a hunt by yourself and uh the guy that don i can't think his last name but

500
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:04,560
he was the one that guided the finals of the world hunt that year and um he took me hunting

501
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:09,560
and she struck an old track and worked it up and got treated had a coon and so we got

502
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:16,400
to advance to the next night and the next night we drew a really good cast we drew uh

503
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:21,840
dalton i think dalton was hunting shack dalton cummings was hunting shack um dual murphy

504
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:29,200
was hunting piper and uh the uh i can't remember who was in the who the other dog in that cast

505
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:35,240
was that's about to me i can't remember that but um we had a we had a good hunt we uh it

506
00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:40,840
was kind of a controversial deal you know the thermals was just coming out i had a thermal

507
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:47,280
um uh we i go to my dog handler by herself she's in one tree in a ditch there ain't a

508
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:53,560
tree for a quarter of a mile from it and uh get to her of course in ukc back then you

509
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:58,360
couldn't have a you couldn't use the thermal get to her i handle her it's like the first

510
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:03,440
20 minutes of hunt um i don't shack and treat a circle tree i know because that's before

511
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,640
i left the tree they go score the oh i know it was bear creek maggie what's the other

512
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:13,280
dog maggie and piper and shack all three got treated together so they lead to me i've got

513
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:19,520
a coon um piper treated coon in the meantime and i was getting beat um and anyways one

514
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:25,640
of them was like do you have a thermal on you and uh i'm like yeah well the judge actually

515
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,880
the judge is like hey what do you got in your pouches and i pull out a spotlight and i'm

516
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:34,040
like a spotlight and uh he's like what's in that other one i was like thermal and he's

517
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:40,760
like and uh anyways long story short i hate to even sound dramatic or whatever but they

518
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:46,440
try to scratch me for having a thermal on me um and so we had a cold time out uh we

519
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,280
had a go ball he's like an hour from the club we had to go all the way back clubhouse it

520
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:55,000
was a big drawed out deal and they didn't scratch me because i didn't use it and they're

521
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,240
like well you can't scratch him for having it on him and uh so anyways we go turning

522
00:39:59,240 --> 00:40:05,280
loose again and i'm getting beat uh uh piper tree's another coon uh emmy tree's another

523
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:12,440
coon i'm getting beat uh on on uh on actually we're tied it comes out of the very end of

524
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:18,000
the cast me and dual are tied but dual dual has a circle tree and i don't um we don't

525
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,880
have no minus it like got down to basically the circle tree was going to win it for dual

526
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:28,080
mine gets treated again with about three minutes left in the cast and she just kind of trailed

527
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,560
one up you know and she just got treated i knew a circle tree could win it for me because

528
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:37,720
i had more circle points on this deal than than dual did and so i get her treated i just

529
00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:41,960
want to get her handled i'm like hey we get her handled this is a dumb deal you know we'll

530
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,920
we'll have to worry about the next round and get her and uh i didn't think she'd have a

531
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:52,640
coon to be honest with you but she had a coon tree um i think that gave me like 575 i think

532
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:59,120
and back then you know they they had to do a deal where there was five casts so the top

533
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,680
three or there were six casts i guess or something i can't remember well anyways the top three

534
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:08,420
scores would be in the finals and then there would have to be one late round that night

535
00:41:08,420 --> 00:41:13,600
to make up for the fourth dog in the finals and luckily we was one of the top three scores

536
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,880
so we automatically advanced to the finals and which is which was a big important deal

537
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:24,040
to me because at this point um she was uh seven you know seven coming eight and she

538
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:28,080
had been hauled all over the country since she was two years old and you know i mean

539
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,920
anytime you can get lucky and get a buy so to speak with an old dog you gotta you gotta

540
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:38,040
take advantage of that so we made the final cast and uh it was it was a nail biter man

541
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:46,120
it was a good cast and we treat several coons on that cast um emmy treed uh two no she treed

542
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:52,360
three but had the bigger part on two of them um and uh the ace dog tree three as well but

543
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:57,520
he ended up taking some tree minus so we won the cast and man walking out of that field

544
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:02,360
i i tell you it was it was one of them deals like you know you you know you won the cast

545
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,400
but it was like counting scores again you're like man are you sure that i won this cast

546
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:11,720
you know it was just cool i mean it was a it was an experience and a feeling that when

547
00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:16,000
i it was the same type of feeling when i won the truck that i feel like i would never ever

548
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:21,080
got again you know and uh you know it was it was cool man it was it was a dream come

549
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:26,640
true i'll be honest with you i knew winning the ukc world hunt was a big deal but i didn't

550
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:31,240
know it was that big of a deal man i had people want to be my friend from like literally all

551
00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:37,040
over the world on facebook that koon hunt you know and in that that squirrel hunt run

552
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,520
beagles and run coyote dogs like they all saw it man and it was like i was like man

553
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,680
that's a little bit bigger of a deal than what i really thought you know it was cool

554
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:52,320
it was a huge blessing yeah man that that's absolutely awesome so you mentioned she was

555
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:59,780
seven at that time did did she ever have a litter of puppies before that like when did

556
00:42:59,780 --> 00:43:03,020
you when did you breed her and know that you had something that you wanted to get some

557
00:43:03,020 --> 00:43:09,500
pups off of her and get them onto the ground yeah so uh that's so she won the ukc world

558
00:43:09,500 --> 00:43:20,600
hunt in 2019 and so in 2018 uh be a year exactly before that uh we bred her to a big money

559
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:27,520
and that's when we got shawks littered um so and that was a litter that man like when

560
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:34,440
we when i i kept i actually so shot was kevin cable's pick of the litter and i kept the

561
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:39,120
millionaire dog that we'll talk about in a little bit and i kept a female that was called

562
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:45,680
fit i called her counterfeit and i kept them too and but yeah man that litter them two

563
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:51,960
puppies that i started i was like man these puppies like act so good but back up a little

564
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:59,240
bit we actually bred her as a two-year-old we bred her to mafia shian's dog um and anyways

565
00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:05,080
it was it was i don't know somehow something else got to her i don't know if it happened

566
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:11,880
at my house or what um probably did i i don't know but um she had a cross a litter of crossbred

567
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:19,880
puppies and um she uh they were black and tans but um but these the black and tan came

568
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:26,600
back that you traded for yeah exactly that's probably what it is truth be known that would

569
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:32,440
be that would be something but my dad sent me a video of these pups when they were like

570
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:38,360
nine weeks old trein on a coon tail and uh i'm thinking that's kind of odd you know and

571
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:43,400
and uh so i kept a male pup out of that cross and and that pup started training coons at

572
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:49,200
like 10 months old he wasn't nothing special but we had a big mouth he treated coons that

573
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:54,520
was it and uh but i knew i'm like that's kind of weird you know i'm like maybe she will

574
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,720
reproduce pretty good and then and then when them puppies off of big money started early

575
00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:03,360
i'm thinking you know maybe maybe she'll reproduce pretty good you know and it's it's not i mean

576
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:09,680
obviously it's some of the male dog but i'm a female guy like honestly like i i believe

577
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:14,320
without a doubt i feel like that you know 60 percent of it's a good female i feel like

578
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,880
if you have a good female that's bred right and that can reproduce you could breed her

579
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:23,280
to a curr dog and they'll be coon dogs you know so it's interesting how people think

580
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:28,720
about that you know some guys like oh no it's 100 percent the stud dog and and then you

581
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:31,240
don't have a lot of guys that say it's 100 percent the female but then you'll have a

582
00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:36,160
lot of guys who are like you know i don't know like kind of like you are like i'm gonna

583
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:42,160
say more 50 60 percent the female she carries a she carries a big end to that load and yeah

584
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:48,040
she does i mean she does and you know but i mean look at willy and big money and dogs

585
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,840
like that like they could breed of course they have a lot of puppies on the ground but

586
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:56,480
they are good reproducers i mean you know i think i mean i'm not saying it's all the

587
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:01,000
female by any means but i feel like that's where you get those special litters you know

588
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,940
right um you know say if you you know you might get one or two good ones out of a litter

589
00:46:05,940 --> 00:46:10,760
you know out of just a mediocre female or whatever but i feel like man if you breed

590
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:16,040
if there's a female that's a good that's bred good that's a good dog and she's a good reproducer

591
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:20,840
you know out of eight puppies six or seven of them's going three coons and three or four

592
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:25,080
of them's going to be something special or has a chance to be you know i feel like that's

593
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,800
but you know i'm not saying it's all the female by any means i mean it has a lot to do with

594
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:34,440
a male dog but i myself personally i feel like it's 60 percent the female right so i'd

595
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:40,400
be one of i'd be one of the ones that agree with you i'm a female female guy myself so

596
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:45,800
yeah so what made you and we're going to roll through this with who all you've bred her

597
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,280
to because she's been bred to three different stud dogs you've got you got a lot of pups

598
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:55,080
on the ground i think she's got what 21 pups on the ground now yep she's got 21 puppies

599
00:46:55,080 --> 00:47:03,120
so you bred her to big money you've bred her to rodeo and you've also who's the third one

600
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:08,040
you bred her to uh willy willy that's it that's right willy that's right here in front of

601
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:15,560
me big money willy and rodeo what made you go to big money first uh so it wasn't long

602
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:20,240
after we won the truck and i'll be honest with you i was like man that'd be cool breed

603
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:26,120
two truck winners together and uh so that's that's what i did i i bred we bred her took

604
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:31,080
her to big money and uh you know i i thought man that that would just be something cool

605
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:35,640
and thankfully it just worked out it was just a luck deal you know i think uh you know it

606
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:40,520
was uh it was a cross that that was at the time it was unique you really didn't kind

607
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:46,160
of you didn't hear much of two truck winners being bred together um and uh you know and

608
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:52,200
then of course when we won the ukc world hunt that world champion world champion cross hadn't

609
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:57,720
been made since insane janex jr to my knowledge maybe it had been but at the time the girls

610
00:47:57,720 --> 00:48:03,520
right there yeah man and i was like man that would be so cool to to breed two world champions

611
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:08,600
together and uh you know of course jr grey he's a great guy and willy was starting to

612
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:13,920
reproduce some really good dogs so but yeah i mean that was on the big money thing i feel

613
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,800
like it was just a just a me you know doing something that was different you know because

614
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,960
it's something that at the time you didn't see a lot of you know but then you turned

615
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:28,120
around and followed it up with another world champion world champion with rodeo yeah yeah

616
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:34,800
so then we we uh we brought her to uh rodeo and and uh you know rodeo actually um the

617
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:40,080
guy that raised rodeo um they they called him joker as a pup but i got to hunt with

618
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:44,760
joker rodeo whatever you want to call him i got to hunt with him a lot when he was 11

619
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:49,760
12 months old the guy over here northwest arkansas had him and uh man he was he was

620
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:55,920
something special he was a barker but he was he was a coon for her even as a pup and uh

621
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,480
you know of course when he won the world hunt with him i thought man it would be cool to

622
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:05,920
to make that cross again um you know at the time we really didn't know what rodeo was

623
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:11,000
going to reproduce like uh but and he's he's starting to throw some good puppies you know

624
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:15,000
starting to come around they all you know so it's it's just been it's just worked out

625
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:20,620
luckily i mean um all three that we have got puppies out of worked out for we bred her

626
00:49:20,620 --> 00:49:25,920
a couple times to some different semen um that didn't she didn't she had one dead puppy

627
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:30,800
a piece and and i was kind of bummed about one of them one of them we we bought some

628
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:37,280
zed 3 semen from ryan krasin and stuck in her um and uh she had one dead puppy man and

629
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:42,600
it was it was sickening i was like man this is this is going to be awesome you know i'm

630
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:47,440
so excited like that was one thing that i always always always wanted to breed her to

631
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:52,840
his zep 3 semen and when we got that deal done with ryan and we drove her to tennessee

632
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:58,480
and i literally left her there for like a week and a half they they progesterone tests

633
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:04,760
were done everything right surgically a i'd her um brought her back home uh anyways long

634
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:09,520
story short she ended up having one dead puppy and and it was just it was a bad deal but

635
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:15,480
and then we brought her to goose semen right after he won the pkc world hunt and uh they

636
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:20,760
i'd heard joe was awesome with the deal he took her and kept her for like two and a half

637
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:26,200
weeks at his house and and they i'd her um and just a just another bad luck deal she

638
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,320
had one dead puppy i mean it was just both times are better to seem and we just had bad

639
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:35,240
luck i think it was you know i think it was just a just a bad luck deal you know it just

640
00:50:35,240 --> 00:50:39,800
didn't work out like it's supposed to you don't get a better man than mr joe manning

641
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:45,320
no man he's good when i called him and told him what i wanted to breed her to i i think

642
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:50,720
he was more excited about it than i was yeah um we went down to the lone star and uh he's

643
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:55,280
like i said man i said you know she's due to come in heat like a week you know i can

644
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,760
i can drive her down to you when she comes in heat and he said absolutely nice to bring

645
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:03,640
her with you he's like we'll take care of her and he's like i know what she means to

646
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:08,480
you and and man like every day he would send me a picture of her on his couch like he he

647
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:13,400
literally took care of her better than i did you know he was he was absolutely hands down

648
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,400
great with it and all the guys that i ever read her to was great you know with it and

649
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:22,280
about it i mean but uh but yeah joe was joe was awesome about it well let's talk about

650
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:27,440
some of the pups that came out of these different litters uh let's start off with your first

651
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:33,720
uh cross that you made which was big money how many how many pups you had shed five uh

652
00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:39,840
no i big money eight eight my bad i was looking at the wrong litter yes she had eight out

653
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:46,720
of big money um uh you got uh so like i kind of touched on earlier i had um my pick of

654
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:52,320
the litter was a dog that i called a millionaire um and then i kept a female called fit and

655
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:58,440
then kevin got shot uh there was another male dog that a young that i sold a buddy of mine

656
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:04,020
um jerryl keener south of here in teleclaw and he started him and he sold him to josh

657
00:52:04,020 --> 00:52:09,040
woolman and and i've lost track of the dog i don't know where he's at um i got i called

658
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:14,240
ukc and got the records to see what dogs have won what um and and he ain't a night champion

659
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:19,040
you know so i don't know if he's still alive i don't know nothing about him um and then

660
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:25,040
i think there was one pup that was that didn't make it out of that litter that was dead um

661
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,920
and then uh you got uh there was another one in arkansas that that the guy hunted her and

662
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,840
hunted her and messed with her and she didn't make it you know she she never i think she

663
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:40,080
she trees a few coons but i just don't think she's she's nothing great you know um but

664
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:44,960
uh that litter was a good litter you know it turned out to be a good litter um corny

665
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:53,120
got shot in that litter too um and uh i got i bought shot so i so millionaire uh the colton

666
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:59,520
atwell owns him now he called me um when millionaire was about five months old uh he would go hunting

667
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:04,400
millionaire wood uh he hadn't treated yet he would treat you can make a drag 100 yards and he would

668
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:10,560
strike it running treat it had a big mouth pretty dog i mean big old pretty puppy and he called me

669
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,560
wanting to buy him and and i'm like man i would rather you see the female would go hunting and

670
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,880
she had treated a couple times dogs and i'm like this might be done for me to say i'm like but i

671
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:24,080
would rather you buy this female i'm like i like the male dog better he was my pick you know he's

672
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:29,040
just pretty he looked a lot like indy and he's like no we want a male dog we want a male dog so

673
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:35,280
they they kept on me and i priced him finally and and they bought him but um as a one-year-old he

674
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:42,320
got in the top six of super stakes uh he's been in the the semi-finals of the missouri pro hunt

675
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:47,360
uh i think he's got three or four wins in ukc them boys don't hunt him in a bunch of hunts

676
00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:52,240
honestly they're just they're just pleasure hunters and they like kuni but that's that's a

677
00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:59,280
good dog that's that is a very good dog i i really really wish that that i had him honestly i mean

678
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:05,680
he's he's everything he want one i'm like yeah he's he's he's a coon treeer but he's also a barker

679
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:12,320
um you know but he barks about once every hundred yards got a big mouth he's a he's he's one of my

680
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:18,160
favorite dogs out of that litter to be completely honest with you um so anyways they got him and

681
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:23,280
then fit i sold fit to a boy over here uh lives close to me his name's hunter chancellor a good

682
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:29,760
buddy of mine um and she's close to a pkc champion if she isn't i know she's right around there but

683
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:35,680
again he never put her in a bunch of hunts um he's got like three or four wins in ukc with her

684
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:43,280
um and then uh uh but uh she i think she won a couple casts at super stakes too so i think she

685
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:50,320
is a pkc champion um and then uh you know and then there's shot i ended up buying shot back um

686
00:54:51,280 --> 00:55:01,840
so shot got kevin long story short kevin traded shot to bradley kelly um for money in the bank

687
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:08,160
and i think he gave me money too i'm not sure all that worked but anyways i ended up buying him back

688
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:13,840
from bradley kelly as i think he was 10 months old when i bought him back um i think he'd treat a

689
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:19,680
coon or two for bradley um when i got him i i hunted him for probably two weeks before he ever

690
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:28,000
treated coon for me but but it was it was it was uh one of the deals i mean he was he was i i i got

691
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:35,040
lucky when i found him um bradley posted him and and i called bradley about him and and uh i just

692
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:40,240
bought him you know um here in the last few weeks you weren't thinking you were lucky though no no

693
00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:45,120
he he was i think he treated a lot of squirrels when he when he was young and i think that he

694
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:51,520
would make trees uh but he was treating a lot of squirrels hey i'm gonna jump in here and say one

695
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:56,800
thing is that we need to make it a point basham to get bradley kelly on this podcast because that

696
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:03,200
joker is a good as a pup man is anybody else that i know he's had a lot of good ones come through

697
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:08,080
his house and you like you said you got you had world champion money in the bank he called him

698
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:15,200
duke i hunted with him whenever he called him duke you got shot there's um the indiana hannah dog

699
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:19,200
there's just a lot of good dogs that have come out of bradley kelly's house and he's just a quiet

700
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,120
guy he don't take the mic but i think that i think that'd be a good one so let's put that

701
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:31,520
under our hat for a future podcast definitely but yeah we i got shot uh when he's 10 10 months old

702
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:36,960
and uh and he was just like his mama he was aggravating man he was an aggravating dog and

703
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:42,880
but it just worked out you know he's he's been good to me and my family you know so um but uh

704
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:48,160
yeah that litter was a great litter i mean that litter turned out great i think i mean um the ones

705
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:53,040
that got that have been put in the hunts of one you know like i said it's just kind of a deal where

706
00:56:53,040 --> 00:57:00,480
the most of the guys just haven't pushed them like i did shot you know um the millionaire dog i feel

707
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:05,680
like without a doubt he's got the tools that it takes to win just as much as my dog has you know

708
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:11,520
but then guys just they just couldn't hunt you know and and the only i think he took him to his

709
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:17,760
two-year-old super stakes too um he won a couple early rounds he didn't win late um but uh but then

710
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:22,960
he didn't take him to the three-year-old but fit same way fit was it was a nice female um she had

711
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:28,480
her quirks like all of them did you know in that litter but she was a good one speaking of shot

712
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:36,560
and uh he won a truck too you got them parked uh side by side outside no i actually don't i uh so

713
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:43,120
the one i won with him i um i give it to my dad my dad drove it for a while um he and i i was

714
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:48,960
lucky bless i had a good truck at the time and my dad you know he his vehicle was giving him problems

715
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:53,600
and and i told him i'm like man i might just take this truck and drive it i'm like you can have it

716
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:58,160
i'm like do what you want to do with it and he didn't want to take you know how that deal goes but

717
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:04,240
uh ultimately man he drove it for a while and and uh he got to where he bought him a nice vehicle

718
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:08,480
too you know and and he come back to me he's like hey you know what are you gonna do with this truck

719
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:13,520
and and uh i'm like well i'm like if you if you don't want to use it no more i'm like we sell it

720
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:18,560
and we can do whatever you want so anyways he sold it and uh turned it out he put the money in my

721
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:26,240
account you know but um it's funny uh my so my mom and dad they're not together um but my dad

722
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:31,920
uh he knows my mom's husband and and works with him at the same dog food plant they get along

723
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:37,360
and everything but um he's the one who bought the truck was my mom's husband so the truck state has

724
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:44,400
kind of stayed in the family so it's it's cool to see you know uh um but i i i i'm keeping the one

725
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:51,040
that that i won with shot but uh i uh but yeah yeah i uh it's it's cool it's it's a cool thing man i

726
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:56,400
i never in a million years would have imagined that uh that that would ever happen not you know i knew

727
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:03,840
i knew that shot was just like him either good and the bad i seen both in him and i'm not saying

728
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:08,080
that i didn't feel like he was going to win nothing big but i just you know at the time i'm like there

729
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:13,040
is just this is crazy man there ain't no way that i'm going to win two trucks and and but you know

730
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:18,400
this sport has been a blessing to me man i'm telling you god has blessed me beyond measure i

731
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:23,840
i can't i can't express just how thankful and blessed i am because of of these dogs man it's

732
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:28,880
crazy as a kid when i got into this sport if you'd have told me that it would have made me

733
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:35,040
what i am today and bless me like it has i don't know like there's no way um but it's it's just

734
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:39,120
amazing man it's it's i'm very very very humble and very blessed for it because

735
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:43,680
a you know at the end of the day man it's it's a there's a million people that would love to be

736
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:50,400
in my shoes and i just can't thank thank god enough for for allowing me to to to you know just to be

737
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:56,640
blessed like i've been it's it's it's unreal good i mean it's it's cool it really is definitely

738
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:04,640
well said well said uh so we move on from the uh money litter and we go into it looks like uh

739
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:11,520
probably your most productive litter and uh that is uh the litter when you bred her to willie let's

740
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yeah man so you know uh that litter a lot of people ask me like hey what what litter is the best

755
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:51,920
I'm like man I honestly couldn't tell you but that litter there I feel like on paper is probably

756
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:58,960
the best litter but as a litter as a whole um you know uh they uh there's a lot of there's a lot of

757
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:05,920
eye popping uh stats as far as that litter goes as far as on paper yeah absolutely hands down I mean

758
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:11,920
uh you know Terry Bennett um and David Griner I think they ended up with like three or four of them

759
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:19,680
um so the one that I kept I started her I I'll be honest with you I absolutely hated her I hated her

760
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:26,240
and that might be bad of me to say but she was my pick of the litter and I hated her patience

761
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:34,720
yep my patience was not there with that one uh just just I I just did not like her but um so Terry

762
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:39,120
I called Terry and I'm like hey you know do you want this female I'm like I'll be honestly I don't

763
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:44,880
think she's gonna make a dog Terry and uh I'm like but you know she's bred good and and you could

764
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,960
breed her to something get pups out of her I'm like but I I don't believe in that you know I'm

765
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:54,640
like if if they ain't gonna suit me I'm not gonna breed him to nothing and so anyways Terry bought

766
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:59,760
her back but yeah that litter is awesome man you got you got 4x Floyd Terry Bennett owns him and

767
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:07,200
he's a gold champion in PKC and and uh been in the top 16 of the pro sport truck hunt twice um

768
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:13,600
you know of course he's a grand night champion um uh he's uh been in the top 100 the UKC world a

769
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:20,880
couple times uh then you then you've got the 4x Willie dog that David Saunders owns and that dog's

770
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:26,720
a night champion at least um and I think they his boy won the state youth hunt with him and that's

771
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:35,600
a good dog too uh then you got uh Scar uh JR and Ellis's female and man them guys have done really

772
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:41,680
good with her they've they've pushed her and she's a very nice female um probably one of the best

773
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:46,640
ones that you can ask to draw you know when she's on but it sounds to me like she's a lot like her

774
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:51,520
mama you know I don't hunt with her every night but JR's kind of told me her flaws and and sounds

775
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:56,240
to me a lot like Emmy when she was you know two or three year old and but uh you know heck they

776
01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:02,000
won Walker days with her and and uh you know got her in the finals of autumn oaks and almost won

777
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:07,520
the triple crown with her I mean um you know so got beat out by their own dog yeah by their own

778
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:13,760
dog and lucky guys I tell you that's crazy them guys there but uh yeah no that litter was awesome

779
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:19,280
you know um I I don't know I probably forgetting you know a puppy or two out of that cross that

780
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:25,680
made good dogs you got game changer in there too game changer yeah so game changer I think that

781
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:32,000
dog's got about every title you can have UKC them boys they water racing and they hunt him and I

782
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:38,640
actually hunted him for for Johnny at autumn oaks uh last year and won my cast in the championship

783
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:43,520
deal and the night hunt and then uh and then he didn't do no good on the bench so but he's he won

784
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:51,920
his cast there and and that way because uh the high dollar whiskey yeah I know old old old basham

785
01:04:51,920 --> 01:05:01,920
hired show hand right there but yeah that dog's a good dog too um the freaky female that they call

786
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:06,880
freaky now I called her freckles that was one I kept that I didn't like uh she they they had

787
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:11,920
patience that I didn't have and when she was about 15 months old she turned the light switch on and

788
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:17,280
went to tree and cooms and you know they've made her a night champion by now and and uh you know

789
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:22,080
I think she might even be a grand night champion but um you know so so she's a nice female too I've

790
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:26,960
heard from several people that she's she's turned out to be a good female um but yeah that that

791
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:33,760
cross there man it it's awesome you know them them guys done great with that cross I you know

792
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:40,640
that cross alone uh you know is is you know Emmy she's on the uh the uh or the current female

793
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:47,360
reproducers list in UKC and I mean gotta tip my hat off to them guys because that without that

794
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:51,760
cross and without them guys pushing that cross like they have she wouldn't be on there you know

795
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:56,560
um but uh but yes them guys have done great with that litter every one of them it would just worked

796
01:05:56,560 --> 01:06:03,280
out the ones that made it have had a chance to to be putting some cash you know so it's uh that was

797
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:09,920
awesome awesome deal definitely and that moves us right along to the very last one and uh probably

798
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:16,880
the one that's not been pushed as much as the other ones and uh that's the rodeo litter yeah so

799
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:22,720
I'll be honest with you man one thing describes that one and that's bad luck that litter there

800
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:32,320
uh so the the rodeo bulldog of Alan Pinkston's um he lives that lives in uh north central Arkansas

801
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:38,560
and uh you know that dog's one he's been in the this quarterfinals of the UKC world hunt um he

802
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:43,280
got I don't think he missed the top 100 but he's a night champion he's got his money one for the

803
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:50,400
super stakes and um all that but uh that's a good dog um uh Scott Engels pick I've actually got Scott

804
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:57,760
Engels dog at my house right now um they call him time um and uh with a little bit of time I mean no

805
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:03,680
pun intended that dog but he'll be he'll be Scott will do some damage with him um and then the one

806
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:08,800
that I kept um hands down I'm not just saying this because she was mine but she was the best

807
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:14,880
one-year-old I've ever had at my house um she was I had won her money for super stakes she was about

808
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:22,160
13 14 months old uh she was bad about climbing trees um she fell out of a tree uh took her to my

809
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:28,080
vet uh you know she she didn't make it you know she she passed away and I'm telling you man that

810
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:34,800
would hurt because she was she was absolutely the best one-year-old I've ever had ever hands down

811
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:40,000
done everything uh you know everything you can ask moved around good dead loner had coons when she

812
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:45,520
treed all natural ability just like her mama was and I was man I was I was pumped up about that

813
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:49,840
deal you know and that just that took the wind out of me when we lost her but she was a good one I

814
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:56,320
mean um and then uh you know there was I've got a male dog too that me and James Perryman's part of

815
01:07:56,320 --> 01:08:00,800
partners on he's at James's house he treats coons he's never been in the cast you know

816
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:06,880
she only had five in that litter um and you know just bad luck has been been with that litter but

817
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:12,000
uh you know I think I think the ones that are alive I feel like uh you know I feel like you're

818
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:16,480
gonna you'll start hearing about them um you know I know that the one that scots got here at the

819
01:08:16,480 --> 01:08:21,920
house I've been hunting and a little bit foreign uh you know he was kind of blown up when I got

820
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:26,560
him and I'll be honest with you I laid him up for a little while and just started hunting and letting

821
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:31,440
me a dog again he's starting to treat coons and he's got some good tools too so that's a good

822
01:08:31,440 --> 01:08:37,120
litter too just kind of a bad luck deal with it man you said you you said something there that

823
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:41,600
I told you in the beginning of this podcast I wanted to go back in and cover you said when

824
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:46,960
you got him he was kind of blown up and you've just put him up you've let him be a coon dog

825
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:53,360
and you're doing your thing and you did that was shot so go back for me just back step a little

826
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:57,440
bit here and tell us what happened because there for a while you were winning everything that you

827
01:08:57,440 --> 01:09:02,720
put shot in and he's got over eighty-something thousand dollars worn in PKC you know he's worn

828
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:08,560
a truck you've done some damage with that dog but there for a while then but then it seemed like he

829
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:12,640
did it seemed like he kind of blew up and every you guys are just catching a bad break or bad

830
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:17,680
luck and couldn't win a cast and I remember last winter you said you just went back to the basics

831
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:22,720
you just started coon hunting him and letting him be a dog again just walk me through that because

832
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:27,760
that's something that I personally need to learn how to do is learn when to take your foot off the

833
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:34,480
gas and just coast yeah so man wait we're all guilty of it man we're all competitive we all

834
01:09:34,480 --> 01:09:39,600
want to win bad you know and I feel like a lot of times of course every dog's different some dogs

835
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:43,920
can handle it some dogs can't but I feel like we put too much pressure on these dogs sometimes

836
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:54,720
and so you know as a so I guess back up the summer before last winter we run the PKC state race with

837
01:09:54,720 --> 01:10:01,440
him well he's actually like second in the national male race for a long time we was iCraney was

838
01:10:01,440 --> 01:10:08,240
running it too and and you I learned right then and there one man cannot run the national race

839
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:13,120
you can't do it you'll wear yourself and your dog plumb into the dirt and ultimately that's

840
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:18,240
what happened man it was I put the dog in too many casts trying to win a national male race with him

841
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:24,800
and and by the end of the year he was he was what I like to call cast stale I mean that dog knew

842
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:31,760
when he was in a cast you could pleasure hunt that dog after a cast and he would perform just

843
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:37,040
great hands down but you line him up against three other dogs you know and cut him loose in a cast

844
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:42,880
he would still treat cones for you but he spent 45 minutes if it was an hour a cast he spent 45

845
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:49,920
minutes of the hour trying to get away from dogs and so you know I just he was just he was burnt

846
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:56,400
out like he I hauled in too much and put too much pressure on him I wasn't pleasure hunting like I

847
01:10:56,400 --> 01:11:03,520
needed to be so I told myself you know my father-in-law they live in in north central Kansas

848
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:11,280
and they got some hands-off some coon hunting and he's good with dogs and we would go up there once

849
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:15,760
or twice a month and I told myself I'm like I'm not after this after October I'm not putting my

850
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:21,280
dog in any cast I'm just gonna pleasure hunt him and we went up there man and and you know like

851
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:26,320
said we go up there twice a month of course I hunt him around here too but up there we got him in

852
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:31,520
scenarios to where we couldn't get him down here because the coon population is way better up there

853
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:38,560
but long story short we we let him just be a dog all winter we I literally just turned that dog loose

854
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:44,720
you know just shot coons to him and and just let him be a dog and you know we he went through a

855
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:50,640
he went through a spell there the biggest flaw in the dog when he what he was doing in the

856
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:57,040
summertime was if dogs covered him he would just pack up and leave you know they didn't have to get

857
01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:02,320
rough with him they didn't have to make an off bark he just didn't want to be around another dog

858
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:08,240
and so man I took him up there and we would literally like it just worked out a couple times

859
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:12,880
my fallen law was hunting a young dog that would cover a little bit and finally one night I got in

860
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:16,960
there too when the dog covered him shot the coon out to him that's something I never do I mean

861
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:22,320
that's that's something I'll never ever do hardly is is kill it now when the dog's six years old or

862
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:26,080
whatever he ain't gonna do no nothing different but I don't believe in killing coons or dogs when

863
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:31,200
they're treated together um and I killed this killed a couple coons and I was like I'm gonna

864
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:36,320
just killed a couple coons soon when a dog would cover him and but uh got him over that and I just

865
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:43,360
took a pleasure on it killed if he treated 40 coons and you know in a month he'd get 40 of them I mean

866
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:50,240
you know I uh that's something that I never really have been big about um but that opened my eyes I

867
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:56,160
feel like that's the best way to hit the reset button on a dog so to speak is is just turn them

868
01:12:56,160 --> 01:13:01,840
loose let them be a dog and kill them coons to them and that's what I did you know and uh you know

869
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:08,880
thankfully he mentally he he matured mentally and and I always said if the dog would ever mature

870
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:14,720
mentally you know he he was always a good dog he always had the coon training ability you know the

871
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:20,880
ability to move around good um you know he he was a dad loner I mean he had all the tools of what I

872
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:26,560
looked for one in one but he just mentally you could tell he wasn't mentally mature some nights

873
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:31,440
he was there and some nights he wasn't just kind of like a little kid you know in school I guess but

874
01:13:31,440 --> 01:13:36,240
um you know and and mentally that winter he mentally matured and we just got back to the

875
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:41,280
basics with him and and I literally just couldn't hunt him all winter and and just let him be a

876
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:47,040
dog but um you know I think that pro sport truck hunt that was about an hour from my house that

877
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:52,480
February I think it was was the first hunt we put him in after just hunting all winter and then the

878
01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:59,280
dog was he he was doing things that he never done when he was a young dog before this he treated a

879
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:04,080
lot of coons but like I said he spent a lot of time trying to get as far away from dogs as he

880
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:09,920
could um you know now he's not going to cover dogs he ain't gonna do none of that but that winter man

881
01:14:10,480 --> 01:14:16,800
he picked up a tool that I've never had in a dog even an emmy uh he might be a half a mile off the

882
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:20,960
the first tree of the night but if he was in a patch of woods or there was three coons right

883
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:26,960
there buying he would tree all three of them off the rica I mean just bang bang bang and uh you know

884
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:32,640
I think that ultimately you know I think that was just part of that mature and mentally but you know

885
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:37,920
I think that all that has to account to that I feel like we sometimes man we get caught up and

886
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:42,560
hunting them in the hunts and winning and beating on them and whooping on them and you know shocking

887
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:47,600
on them and and I mean instead of just letting them be a dog sometimes you know I mean let them

888
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:53,600
enjoy it I mean I think that's that's an important deal a lot of people as myself I still to this day

889
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:58,080
you know I get caught up in and trying to make one a winner trying to make one a winner trying

890
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:03,200
to hunt hard and do this and do that and ultimately especially when they're young and some dogs can

891
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:08,080
take it look at meltdown meltdown man you could shock him and beat him and do whatever you want

892
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:12,880
to do to that dog and when you cut him loose it didn't matter what moves then you could run enough

893
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:19,120
electricity through that dog Dustin did to probably light up the town of Dallas um but that dog man he

894
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:23,680
could take it you know and and some of them can but very few of them can man that that's something

895
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:29,120
that I did literally last night I was telling you about that story earlier is me and my little pup

896
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:37,520
now she's 17 months old now maybe don't hold me at the stake on that one um but she it's taken her

897
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:43,600
longer to mentally mature than I would expect for one two she's coming along she's trincoons but the

898
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:47,600
last few nights we just haven't been clicking together we've been button heads and I went out

899
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:53,200
last night knowing good and well that I'm getting ready to be gone for a week and I put the t5 on

900
01:15:53,200 --> 01:16:01,120
her that way there was no way I could do when when I get in the moods and I'm frustrated I can't hit

901
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:08,000
the button put a t5 on them let them be a dog you know that's just something that I had to do yeah

902
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:13,920
that's the same thing sometimes turn them loose get back in the truck I mean because I mean if

903
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:19,600
I've done it several nights special on young dog man just been so mad and I knew man I'm just

904
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:25,280
gonna whoop them when I get to that tree they're gonna take it and uh man just you know just calm

905
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:32,640
down and just just uh let them be a dog I mean not you know it's it's crazy sometimes the you know I

906
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:37,760
there was something that somebody told me one time in college I was on the livestock I go to the team

907
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:43,120
as our coach he said kiss the kiss method keep it simple stupid and sometimes that's the best thing

908
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:49,440
you can do yeah hey that what I tell you Bryce I mean look out look out for old spot you know me

909
01:16:49,440 --> 01:16:55,120
and bright me and Bryce went out and uh had a good weekend a couple weekends ago and uh I told him

910
01:16:55,120 --> 01:17:04,400
kind of the same thing I haven't hit a competition hunt oh two and a half months now and uh I'm just

911
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:11,840
it's just me and one dog and anybody that knows me knows usually whenever I roll up I got a dog

912
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:20,720
box trailer and I'll have six or seven and uh it's just me and one dog and uh not just for him

913
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:27,600
sometimes as handlers we need a reset button because we get we get so running up and down

914
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:34,160
the road and you get so focused on a goal on winning and when it all comes crumbling down

915
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:41,360
you need a reset button you need to go back to your roots and figure out why why do I even

916
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:47,200
coon hunt why do I even do this you know and sometimes I feel like that not only the dog

917
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:52,560
needs it but the handler needs that reset button too yeah absolutely I'm I'm kind of different you

918
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:56,640
know the most guys they could they could take away all the competition hunts tomorrow and I

919
01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:01,440
would still coon hunt uh now would I hunt a different type of dog absolutely I don't think

920
01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:07,760
I would have a big wild dead long dog I've used I don't you know I mean I would just go time

921
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:13,840
they'll go treat coons you know and and uh but you know I'm just a coon hunter I ultimately I got

922
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:20,800
into this sport because man I love dogs I love the competition side of it but there's several guys

923
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:24,880
that I know man they'll be honest with you like the only reason why I do this is the competition

924
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:30,640
and ultimately I feel like that you know a lot of times you know if that's the only reason why

925
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:34,880
you're in it man it's it's it's you're gonna want to get burnt out on it because you're gonna go

926
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:39,360
through slumps your dog's gonna look bad you know you as a handler you're not gonna be able to get

927
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:44,480
on the same page as the dog and I've been there I've done it all and I know like you know it's

928
01:18:45,440 --> 01:18:50,320
sometimes you you just got to take a step back and say man I'm just gonna go coon hunting tonight

929
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:55,440
like I'm just gonna load my dog up literally not even look at my garment I'm just gonna sit on my

930
01:18:55,440 --> 01:19:01,360
tailgate and listen to my dog tree and and that's that's that's what got me into it you know was the

931
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:07,120
sound of the dog I mean so uh you know it was uh yeah absolutely I agree with you 100% I mean we

932
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:12,240
as we as we as handlers and houndsmen we have to have a reset button too just like athletes do you

933
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:18,240
know and that's why we wanted to bring you on here it and that's kind of what embodies

934
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:25,520
semper dogging always dogging and it's not just about one training style doesn't fit every single

935
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:34,160
dog it's about that mutual uh bond between that houndsman and that dog you know it's your feelings

936
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:41,360
going down that leash into that dog being able to understand the dog and the change of behaviors

937
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:46,880
before it ever happens you know into an actual result and uh like I said that's why we wanted

938
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:54,720
to bring you on here is because it's a passion of not just competing but having a dog training a

939
01:19:54,720 --> 01:20:00,640
dog being friends with the dog being buddies with the dog and ultimately just living life

940
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:07,200
chasing dogs and and training them yeah absolutely man I tell you I've always said it uh you know I

941
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:14,000
feel like you you if you really want to see a dog perform and to look as good as he can look

942
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:21,600
uh you know you won't see that until you respect that dog as much as he respects you and uh you

943
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:27,520
know I feel like whenever you get a dog to perform for you not only for his own pleasure but for your

944
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:34,080
pleasure that dog man is is gonna he will absolutely perform 100% better and from my experience

945
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:38,640
you'll get more hard out of a dog absolutely every dog that I've ever been successful with

946
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:44,400
Emmy was that way shots that way uh this this puff out of shot that I've got high hopes for he's

947
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:50,640
that way too um you know but yeah yeah absolutely I mean it's that's what it's all about it's it's uh

948
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:55,040
at the end of the day we all do this because we love it we don't do it because we're trying to get

949
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:59,760
rich we don't do it because well you can make a million dollars couldn't I'm sure there's a lot

950
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:06,240
of money to be hunt for today but at the end of the day you know we we do this because we really

951
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:11,920
truly enjoy it now I mean there's you know there's times where when we when we're on a losing street

952
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:18,640
we're upset but I'm telling you right now if it don't eat you alive when you lose then you then

953
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:23,200
go find something else to do because you're not passionate yeah you're not passionate about it

954
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:29,120
absolutely you've got to have that fire I mean you know uh sure I've learned a long time ago you've

955
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:33,920
got to be a good winner to be an excellent or you got to be a good loser to be an excellent winner

956
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:40,400
and you know you got to learn how to lose as well as you do win but at the end of the day I mean if

957
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:45,760
anybody tells you yeah I enjoy losing they're lying to you I mean because especially if they're

958
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:51,280
competitive you know I can't say I've always been a good loser though we're working on that we're

959
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:56,240
working on that we're working on that let's not talk about that that's the elephant in the room

960
01:21:56,240 --> 01:22:01,520
let's not talk yeah yeah I mean that's that's all of us you know we gotta we I haven't learned when

961
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:06,640
I was a kid man I tell you right now I was a handful um you know I'm not a kid lane

962
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:14,480
yeah you know I've learned though you know I mean it is what it is that you know it's at the end of

963
01:22:14,480 --> 01:22:22,000
the day you you just you gotta enjoy it I mean um you know but uh it's it's it's crazy you know

964
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:27,040
like I said it's it's this sport there's so much opportunities for it um you know but you have to

965
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:32,000
be passionate about it just like an athlete is about his sporty plays you know I feel like

966
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:37,360
you know because when times get tough you know and there's there's it's especially in cunha

967
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:42,400
because when you're out there hunting six seven nights a week there ain't a fan base watching you

968
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:47,440
do that there's not somebody saying yeah you're doing good keep it up you know it's just you and

969
01:22:47,440 --> 01:22:53,040
nature out there you know and and uh there's you know you've got to really enjoy what you do

970
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:57,360
especially on this sport or it's gonna get tough and you'll want to quit you know but

971
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:03,280
yeah for sure well buddy you know we've got we went through here and talked a little bit about

972
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:09,120
emmy and and how you raised her trained her went all the way to the top with her you then you've

973
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:15,280
got a pup out of her that you've took to the top again on many many levels and now you're working

974
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:20,720
on a third generation pup is that pup what's next for you is that what's going on you've got emmy

975
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:27,920
I'm assuming retired now at 11 years old yeah yeah she uh right now as we speak she she stays at my

976
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dad's house she's probably sleeping on my dad's couch right now um so she's definitely retired

977
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my dad he cunha like I said when he was a kid he cunha and he don't hunt he works too much now but

978
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you know during the winter he'll hunt a little bit he'll want to go and he'll just take him in

979
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and you know hunter but uh you know I tell you man I've been so blessed it's crazy to think how

980
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:55,120
blessed I have been um especially to think that you know I've been doing it since I was 12 uh you

981
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know I've had emmy since you know she was a year old so since 2013 and now you know hopefully I'll

982
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have the third generation you know coming up with this pup off shot but man yeah I really like him

983
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:12,720
he's got he's got some tools and if he'll hang in there with me I know he's a baby uh but you know

984
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:17,760
he he uh if he'll hang with me I think that dog of people will be hearing about him hopefully with

985
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:22,480
a little luck um but you know it's it's been a blessing it's unreal how how good God's been to

986
01:24:22,480 --> 01:24:30,160
me and how great these dogs have been to my family you got any uh future I know she's 11 years old but

987
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uh I know it's in the back of your mind too uh and any future plans on one last uh one last litter

988
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well uh not very many people know this um but uh breaking news breaking news here we go

989
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:51,760
but so last year um so two well let me think what so the litter before we bred her to rodeo she had

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a mass come up on her back um took her to the vet they they cut it out said it's not cancerous sent

991
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:03,040
it off or like you're good to go or can we breed her yeah breed her that's fine bread or she had

992
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puppies raised all up been an excellent mama uh about I don't know eight months ago probably um

993
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we same mass come up took her to the vet they're like you know it's not cancerous but it has

994
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potential to become cancerous um they're like you know if you don't have her spayed they can it can

995
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become cancerous and it's all about killer so I meant that the dog did not owe me a freaking thing

996
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:34,400
um she had been excellent to my family uh you know so we we made the decision to have her spayed and

997
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:40,400
so no more unfortunately no more puppies will be coming out of her she's got what she's got so uh

998
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you know it's a sad thing and it sucks but you know I'm just blessed that she's still here you

999
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:52,000
know at 11 years old coming 12 I mean you know and like I said she didn't owe me nothing if it

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means I can get two more years of just her being around the family you know hopefully you know my

1001
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:02,000
wife and I hopefully will have kids in the near future and if it means that that dog will be

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around those kids man it's sure have her spayed I'm fine with that you know it does suck because

1003
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you know you always want to try to get one last litter out of them especially when they when the

1004
01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:19,840
puppies has been as good to me as they were but hopefully uh hopefully kind of shot can can kind

1005
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:26,000
of take up the slack for on that end of things but yeah so so unfortunately no no more puppies out

1006
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:30,960
of her yeah well man she's been like you said you've said it a bunch on here she's been just great

1007
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:34,960
to your family and and the good lord has blessed you and and everything that he's given you and

1008
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:38,640
you know I think all three of us sitting here on this podcast we could say the same thing you know

1009
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:42,720
we've we've all had some good times in here and we got to thank the good man above for it so

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01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:47,520
um you got anything else you want to talk about man I hope you can listen to this here years down

1011
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:51,360
the road and think about all the good times you had with emi and the pups out of her and we'll

1012
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:57,360
let you end her with whatever you got on your mind buddy yeah man I just uh you know I want to thank

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01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:01,920
everybody that uh you know this is kind of this deal's kind of been all about emi I want to thank

1014
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everybody that's been there through her career for with us you know and uh definitely got to thank

1015
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:12,240
Carl Reed he hauled her and I around when we was a kid and both of us were just pups so to speak and

1016
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:17,520
um that man right there has been good to me and my family too uh he's he's like a second dad to me

1017
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:22,640
man and and uh but you know and thank everybody I just want to thank everybody that's kind of

1018
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:27,680
supported me over this deal I mean still to this day I got people that call me and text me and

1019
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:32,560
and you know hey man how you doing and and you know congratulate me when I get lucky and am

1020
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:38,240
successful and you know it's it's just been a major blessing you know and like you said man it all

1021
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:44,080
comes from the good lord and and you know I'm not a perfect person I'm just about as bad as the next

1022
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:48,880
person you know but I'm telling you man I count my blessings every single night and he has blessed

1023
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:54,800
me and my family beyond measure definitely got thank you know thankful for that but um you know

1024
01:27:54,800 --> 01:28:00,960
it's it's uh yeah man and one more thing I just my ultimate goal people are still asking me this

1025
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:04,080
you know they're like well now that you're tired in me what do you want out of her and I'm like

1026
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she don't owe me nothing but you know what would put the cherry on the top of the cake so to speak

1027
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is when she's dead and gone if she gets inducted into the PKC hall of fame um you know because man

1028
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:20,320
I feel like I'm biased and and I don't brag on one enough I don't think sometimes but I've just

1029
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:25,200
always been that way but you know I feel like that that dog right there deserves it as much as any

1030
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:31,120
any dog I mean both performance and reproduction I mean uh you know and if you don't get it that's

1031
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:36,080
fine but man I just feel like just just my opinion that's what that's the only thing I want left you

1032
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:40,960
know is is somebody to vote her into the hall of fame you know and that would be that would be

1033
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:47,760
awesome to me but it's it's it's been a wonderful ride with her and these you shot and every other

1034
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:53,520
dog that I've been able to hunt with out of them and like I said I'm just blessed beyond measure

1035
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:59,440
it's it's unreal how good God has been to me and my family absolutely Basham you got anything to

1036
01:28:59,440 --> 01:29:06,000
wrap us up here brother man no I think uh man I think I'm I think I'm gonna leave it to the

1037
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professional there and uh let him in this segment shoot he sounded uh he sounded awfully good saying

1038
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:17,920
it so uh I'm just gonna leave it all at that yeah yeah Mr. Lane man great guest and great to have

1039
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:22,320
you on here great friend um love watching you compete and the level that you do love seeing

1040
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:27,200
everything you got going on uh always in your corner man so so thanks for joining us Lane man

1041
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:32,400
man it's been been a great great time guys thank you so much for listening to the Semper Dogg and

1042
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:37,600
podcast um we hope you'll continue to stay on this journey with us uh we've got a lot in the

1043
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:43,360
works we've got a lot coming down the pipeline uh Basham and I we're dreamers man we've got big big

1044
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:49,920
visions for this thing big dream and and like go ahead Lane I want to thank you guys too for having me on this deal

1045
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:55,600
you know I uh I always enjoy doing podcasts just because I like talking to people and I consider you

1046
01:29:55,600 --> 01:30:00,560
two my friends you know so it's just like I'm out here talking to my buddies and that's you guys do

1047
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:05,680
awesome with this and and I hope and pray for you guys man it just takes off because both y'all you

1048
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:13,600
know you guys are good to good together so to speak uh but uh you know you guys uh you guys both man

1049
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:18,320
you guys do good with this thing hopefully it'll it'll be awesome for you yeah man we sure appreciate

1050
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:22,320
that and like I said you know guys we've got big visions for this and and like Lane said about his

1051
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:27,920
pub if you guys would just stay with us just stay with us it's it's bound to be something good so

1052
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:31,520
make sure you guys check out our awesome sponsors they've been they've been really good to us and

1053
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:36,960
supporting us in this new endeavor um we hope we hope you enjoyed it uh we we've just got a lot

1054
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:42,080
coming on we're having a lot of fun doing this so Basham Lane once again thanks guys um for joining

1055
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me tonight and listeners we'll see you in a couple weeks be sure to follow us on our Facebook page

1056
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:52,240
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1057
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:56,560
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1058
01:30:56,560 --> 01:31:00,400
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1059
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:04,320
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1060
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:18,800
and just be one another and enjoy the dog so guys until next time keep dogging

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you