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Welcome to the Forgotten ECE, the show where

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before and after school educators, summer camp

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and PD staff and CYWs have a place where they

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are seen, heard and valued. I'm your host, Jamie

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Wankler, and I'm so excited you're here. Welcome

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back. Welcome back to the Forgotten ECE. Today

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is an exciting day because I have brought you,

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well, okay, combined. We have brought you Kayla

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Snydal, all the way from Alberta, and she is

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the founder of Capable Learners and operates

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a home childcare center. She is an experienced

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early childhood educator with over 15 years in

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the field, and through her licensed family day

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home, and her growing online platform. She supports

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educators and parents with practical tools, meaningful

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resources, and a strong belief in the power of

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play. Kayla is passionate about advocating for

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family child care programs and helping educators

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feel seen, supported, and inspired as they build

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quality early learning environments where children

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thrive. Most recently, and I'm so excited to

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announce, She has released her brand new ebook,

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57 Sensory Bin Ideas, a resource designed to

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help educators create simple, accessible, and

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meaningful sensory experiences for all ages,

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and get this, including school -aged children.

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Yay! Welcome, Kayla. Hey, how's it going? I'm

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so excited to be here this morning. Oh, so good.

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Before we got on and started recording, we were

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talking about the time difference because I always

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forget there's a time difference. I don't know

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why I think I live in this world that everyone

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just has the same time, but they obviously don't.

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Kelly, to start off... It would be nicer if we

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did. Right? Everything would be so much easier.

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Kelly, I just want to ask you your pronouns,

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if you don't mind. She, her. Perfect. Just making

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sure. First and foremost, congratulations on

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releasing your new resource, 57 Sensory Bin Ideas.

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What inspired you to create this ebook? I created

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this ebook because I've seen so many educators

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and parents feeling overwhelmed. And where do

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I begin? What do I use? Where do I find stuff?

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And I'm like, you know what? I've created hundreds

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of sensory bins over my years. And I'm like,

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I have a huge camera roll on my phone of all

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the bins that I've made. And I'm like, I'm going

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to break this down to make it simpler and manageable

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for educators and parents and use this as an

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inspiration guide. So it's not a complete recipe

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book where do A, B, C, follow it to a T. It's,

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oh, she did that. Let's do this. I have this

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material. I have this material. And it's a starting

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off point to inspire parents and educators to

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bring sensory play into their world and into

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their lives. Oh, that's incredible. And I love

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that you have that adaptability involved in it

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because not everyone's going to have the same

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materials that you have. We're not going to be

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able to find everything always the same. And

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sometimes it's affordability, but you've considered

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all of that in this great resource. And that's

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the joy of sensory. It's a hunt for materials.

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It's not a one and done. It's, ooh, this would

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be great. I'm going to hold on to this until

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I need it. And you never know when it's going

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to spark an idea or interest. Oh, amazing. And

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where, if you don't mind me asking, where do

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you find most of your sensory bin materials?

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So I love to thrift. I love Amazon, Team You.

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Facebook Marketplace on Buy Nothing Groups is

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another great place. Asking my family's estate

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sales for like grandparents and stuff that are

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moving. You can find the coolest trinkets and

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like sifters and whisks and the neatest things

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to add to sensory play. So I really gravitate

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to my community when looking for materials. Oh,

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I love that. That's so great. And it's a great

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way to bring your community together to introduce

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something great to the children and really use

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other people's ideas and materials and bring

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life back into the vintage stuff that we have

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because the world is already full of so many

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things. So it's nice that we're bringing life

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back into that. Yeah. And like I always tell

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people, make sure to check out the bags at Value

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Village and Goodwill because you will find the

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coolest things hidden in those bags. There might

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be 90 % junk, but there might be one or two really

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awesome things. So always check the bags. Oh,

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I love that. That's so true. We also have a store

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here. I don't know if Stratford still has it,

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but it was like an, I wish I could remember the

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name of it, but it was like an Amazon junk store.

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So when people send the things back to Amazon,

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you find it. And you can find these crazy pieces

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in these containers that people just got rid

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of. And you're like, I actually will take all

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of these hinges or I will actually take all of

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these doohickeys because I need it for child

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care. Yeah, we have a store similar to that.

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We have a it's a reuse store and it's more for

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recyclables. But I found the coolest tubes and

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tile pieces and carpet samples and the neatest

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things there. So, yeah, definitely look for like

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a reuse store. or like a hodgepodge lodge place

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in your community because those can have lots

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of great treasures. Oh, incredible. And thinking

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about your family day home, I'm wondering what

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gap you've noticed in the field, especially for

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family day homes in before and after school and

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educators that led you to develop these 57 ideas.

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So I think the gap is family day homes are a

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mixed age group. So during the day, you have

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littles, you have the under five, sometimes one,

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two year olds. And then after school, you have

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the big kids and their interests, their abilities

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or developments are different. So it's trying

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to connect the two and set up a space that everybody

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can thrive in. Being mindful of that, the older

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kids need sensory play as well, but so do the

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younger kids and just having materials that everybody

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can use and learn from and engage with. Yes,

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that is one thing I would love to chat a little

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bit more is because obviously I love before and

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after school care and there is a huge age gap

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in that already from four till 12. And now you

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throw a home day in the mix and it's all of a

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sudden, like you said, one till 12 sometimes.

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And that is a huge age gap. So how do you manage

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that at home? And how do you ensure that your

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programming is accessible and adaptable for children

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of different age groups? Yeah, so I kind of deal

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with this because my oldest is six years old.

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So she's in school all day. But I do have to

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find when she gets home, she needs activities.

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She needs things to engage with. So just making

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sure it might be that I have bins that come out

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at certain times of the day. Say like Lego, if

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I have really littles, I'm not going to have

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the Lego out during the day. But at 3 .30 when

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she gets home from school, I'll have the Lego

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bin out. a design space for them where you can

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use this material here where the babies aren't

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going to access it, where they can't reach it.

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And having just materials that you can grab and

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are accessible to the kids whenever they need

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them, but maybe not out in the open for everybody

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to grab. And it really comes down to the space

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and how you set up the classroom or your home

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or whatever it may be. Yeah, that's a great point.

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It also gives a sense of independence to your

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older children because then they're in charge

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of this and they know not to let the babies grab

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it. They know not to let the younger kids get

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involved and they have this own time for them

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to kind of explore with stuff that's more developmentally

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appropriate for them. Yeah, and allowing them

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to have the autonomy over the space. So... I

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have a pencil sharpener that's always out on

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my craft counter and the older kids know they

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can use that pencil sharpener whenever they need.

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The younger, my two, three, four -year -old,

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well, maybe not two, but my three, four -year

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-olds also use it, but it's out and allowing

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the children the autonomy to use these more risky

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objects and materials also comes down to it.

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Wow, awesome. And I'm wondering if there's any...

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Help between the older kids and the younger kids

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when it comes to things like your pencil sharpener

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or for sensory bins and engaging the older kids,

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engaging the younger kids in a play that might

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need more help. Yeah, they are definitely leaders

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and they model and... help in the space for sure.

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Especially with like meal times and snack, the

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older kids are helping bring the plates to the

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table. They're setting up, they're assisting

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with washing hands to make sure the line runs

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smoothly. And as a in -home childcare, I'm a

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one woman show. I don't have a second teacher.

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I don't have other support. So it's a balance

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between not putting responsibility on them too

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much, but also giving them that responsibility

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to help out when they are around. And on those

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PD days and days that they're off school, it

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is a real treat to have the older kids here because

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I'm like, oh, I have an extra set of hands to

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help get the pencil crayons down when we're doing

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art or set up the table or assist in that lineup.

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So it frees up a little bit of my time, but also

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gives them that autonomy to be a leader and to

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show responsibility and independence. Yeah, and

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it's fun for them, right? Like it's fun for the

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older kids to be like, ooh, I can do that. I

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can be in charge or I can help out with this.

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And it probably becomes like a game or an excitement

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for them. Like, oh, on the PD day, I get to help

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make the slime or on the PD day, I get to help

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make this or I can open this bin. My oldest calls

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it, she's like on anti -patrol. where she's watching

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the little babies just so that I can get something

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done. And she's like, I'll watch her. I'm on

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anti -patrol. And it's quite cute because when

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you have an 18 -month -old, they need eyes on

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them all the time. But sometimes you need to

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go to the bathroom for a quick 30 seconds. Literally.

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Okay, literally. And it's not like a child care

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center where you can call someone in to pop in.

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You're like, no, okay. Everyone stay still for

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five minutes. Like, just have to pee. Thinking

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about your book and sensory materials, do you

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have a favorite sensory bin from the ebook that

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school -aged children tend to gravitate more

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to? Ooh, definitely the messier ones. Also the

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building and the setting up of them, not just

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the ones where they remove the lids and they're

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ready to go. They like that they've helped create

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them. Recently at Halloween, we did monster mud

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or ghost mud, sorry. And it's where we to rip

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up toilet paper, we had to grade soap and then

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we add water and then it makes this white, soft,

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fluffy mud. And they loved it from start to finish.

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And some kids are like this is they like the

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ripping and the grading. But as soon as we added

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water, they were out. But there was one kid that

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was in there and they were building statues and

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objects and just mixing it up. And the texture

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changes so much over the play that. they just

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stay engaged and want to do it more and more

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and more. And I think the older kids definitely

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love the process of the sensory bins that are

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messier and that they get to build and create.

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Oh my goodness. First of all, I am super excited

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about that. So I will be checking that out in

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your ebook because that messy play is all I'm

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all for it. I love it. I love mud. I love messy.

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I love it all. But you've just enlightened me

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on that it's not just about, and we talk about

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this a lot, it's not just about the product.

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But even in sensory bins, it's not just about

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the product. It's about the autonomy and that

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ability to build the product and to make these

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sensory bins together and to have their say in

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it as well as being a part of the process. That's

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so incredible. I love to utilize the children

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when I'm sorting the sensory bins to make a new

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one. Again, being a one -woman show, I do a lot

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of that stuff during work hours because work

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-life balance. So I will sort out the sensory

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bin during the day and then bring in a new one.

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And they love picking out all the pieces and

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the gems and the loose parts and stuff. And it's

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a great learning opportunity for them, but they

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also get to help me at the same time. And it

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makes them more excited to then further their

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play within that sensory bin and try it in different

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ways. Oh, that's incredible. And then they recognize

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what materials we have because when I store my

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sensory materials, I don't store my materials

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as one bin. It's not, I don't have the ocean

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bin, the farm bin. I sort it by materials so

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that I can grab and interchange things as I need.

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And then they get to see, oh, you have black

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gems. That's great for bugs, but it's also great

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for space when we do space when they're interested

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in it. I love that they get to recognize what

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materials we have when they're helping sort and

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go through it. That contributes to this beautiful

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emergent curriculum that we strive for where

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the children are interested and we're pulling

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their interest because then they know and they

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can show that they're interested in certain things.

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And now they're also incorporating what materials

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you have to further those interests. That's incredible.

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And I operate my day home as child led emergent

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curriculum. So I don't have the themed bins necessarily

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because I'm following the children's lead one

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week. It could be like right now we're into gingerbread,

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but next week it could be snowflakes or it could

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be Santa Claus. Like we don't know going into

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the holiday season or it could be ocean animals.

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But then the next week it could be space and

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their interests change so quickly. And I love

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that the way I store my materials, I can support

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that. Wow. Your passion is shining through and

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I love it so much. This is making me so excited.

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In terms of sensory play, how does it help regulation,

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creativity, imagination, or even leadership in

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these children? We touched a little bit on it,

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but... Yeah, sensory play is such an important

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part of early learning. It offers so many opportunities

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for learning from fine motor, gross motor, self

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-regulation, imagination, language skills, early

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math and science skills. So there's so much value

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in it that it can't be eliminated from our classrooms.

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And it's one thing in the 15 years of doing child

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care that has stayed consistent. Everywhere I've

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worked from infants to school age, there's always

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been a sensory bin and they have so much value

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in them. And that's what I love about them is

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that they are timeless and they're never going

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to go away. And we need to bring it back to the

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basics of having sensory bins into the classroom.

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I agree. And you're taking it so much further

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than just a sand in a water table. You're incorporating

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all of these great needs and all of these great

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abilities into your sensory bins, which is beautiful

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because there's so much more to the world than

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just sand and water. Absolutely. And yeah, when

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you bring in, I call them my add -ons or add

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-ins, when you bring in the add -ins and link

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it to the children's... interests and what they're

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into, the learning just is even more magical

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because they've made that connection. And if

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it's birds and they're seeing birds and nests

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and different things in a sensory bin, they're

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making that connection. And we know when children

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make those connections through play, the neuropathways

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are developing so much quicker. And that's what

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I love about sensory bins. Yes, you're so right.

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And then they can connect it to the real world

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and what that looks like. And it does. It creates

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this beautiful learning moment and they get so

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much more out of it than just necessarily sitting

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there and saying, okay, this is what a bird does

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to build their nest. They get to actually live

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it. Amazing. So what would you say to an educator

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who is thinking that sensory bins are too messy

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or too young or too much work for them? The joy

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of sensory bins is they are adaptable to everybody,

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every space, every classroom. Myself as an educator,

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I have different thresholds. Some days I'm okay

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if the sensory material is going around my classroom

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and they're using it in the play kitchen, they're

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using it in the train set. But then other days

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I have a lower threshold where I'm like, you

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know what? I don't want to be cleaning up rice

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for the next two weeks. So I think knowing our

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own thresholds when it comes to sensory play

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and adapting the material. If you don't like

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cleaning up rice, put a different basin that

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is bigger so it's less messy. Also sensory bands

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aren't a set it and forget it thing. They need

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guidance and modeling and in the beginning you

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might be doing those bigger materials so that

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they're less messy and then work towards the

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messier materials as the year goes on. But those

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first few weeks, you're modeling. Materials stay

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in the bin. We don't put materials in our mouth.

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Just using that language with the children so

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that they learn how to use our sensory bin responsibly

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and appropriately for your classroom and your

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space. And then... that you can then adapt it

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more as it goes on into the messier play. So

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don't start with ghost mud, your first sensory

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bin. Start with something bigger. Pom -poms are

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a great one. They are... far less messy than

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rice or sand. But yeah, I wouldn't start with

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the messiest thing. Work your way up to it. Model

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to the children how to use the sensory bin, how

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to use the materials, what your expectations

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are, and you're allowed to set your expectations

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for your classroom and your space. And that's

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the joy of them is they are adaptable. If you're

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working with young babies, you're being mindful

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of what they're putting in their mouth and who's

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using materials to taste stuff. You're going

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to adapt it to them. Whereas school age kids,

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you can do the messier, the smaller, the more

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little items that can be for them. So that's

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what I absolutely love about Sensory Place is

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it's adaptable to anybody. But start with yourself

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and what your thresholds are. Yes. Oh, that's

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great advice. And I think that we put a lot of

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pressure on, I'm just thinking about school age

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right now, that they might not like things without

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actually trying things to see if they like them.

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And I think that school agers... deserve the

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same attention that we would be giving to like

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in our planning towards preschoolers or toddlers

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or babies and I think they would be I think we

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would be surprised as educators on how much they

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would enjoy sensory bins or new sensory like

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I bet your ghost mud went insane like I bet that

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would be incredible to see for the school ages

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and thinking about my school ages I'm like oh

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my gosh like I kind of just want to try this

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tomorrow because they would be they would be

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so enthralled with that the messiness of it so

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I think that just also giving children grace

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and remembering that they are children and that

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these things do bring them joy. Yeah. And if

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you aren't doing ghost mud at Halloween, you

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can call it clean mud. So maybe kids that are

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more hesitant to get into messy play, you can

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say it's clean mud and just use it that way.

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For the school -agers, but yeah, school -age,

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I worked in out -of -school care for three and

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a half years. A lot of my early sensory bins

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were with school -age kids. And it's interesting

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to think back to how they used sensory bins compared

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to my littles now. They were more into the imaginary,

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turning it into coffee shops and building the

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dramatic play around the sensory bin. Whereas

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the younger kids are using it more for the scooping,

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the pouring, the sorting. But both are beneficial

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and both are so special to see. Incredible. And

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when you worked in out -of -school care, did

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you find it, how did you find it introducing

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these sensory bins to the children? Did you find

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you were met with apprehension from the kids?

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Like, I'm not doing that. That's for babies.

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Or did you find that they were excited? Or was

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there a mix? No, I think they all loved sensory

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play. And again, it's how you set up your classroom,

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how you view the materials in your classroom.

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Oftentimes, we know that out -of -school care

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stuff is kind of stagnant. The materials stay

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the same. The toys are usually the same, whereas

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the sensory bins can change on a weekly basis.

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So I felt that that kept the kids' interest a

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lot more when I was building sensory bins for

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them. I could adapt it more to their interests

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in the classroom. Oh, amazing. Just going back

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to your ebook, I'm kind of jumping all around,

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but I'm just so excited to be talking to you

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about this. Your ebook promises manageable, educator

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-friendly ideas. What tips do you have for keeping

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sensory play simple and low stress? I break sensory

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materials down into three parts. So I have the

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bases, what I'm using as the scooping, the pouring,

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the mixing. That's the rice, the sand, the water,

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different materials like that. And then I have

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the add -ins. And the add -ins are what I use

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to connect it to the children's interests. And

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that could be the birds. That could be holidays.

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So many different add -ins you can add. And then

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the tools, the tweezers, the tongs, the sorting

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trays. And by breaking down sensory bins into

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those three parts, it makes it way more manageable

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when you're building because you're like, okay,

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I need a base. What are the children's interests?

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How am I going to have the add -ins? And then

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what tools can I put in to support the children's

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learning and development? Oh, I love that. And

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yeah, like every bin that I've seen, it has those

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three parts. It has something like that they

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can play in. And without one of those pieces,

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it's kind of... It kind of falls short because

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you can't scoop sand if you don't have a scoop

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or you can't scoop sand if you don't have the

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sand. So I like that. And it kind of breaks it

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into these pieces where educators are like, OK,

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first step, find a base. Second step, what are

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the children interested in that I can throw into

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this bin? And then how can I manipulate their

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learning with materials, whether it's going to

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be fine motor or gross motor skills that they're

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working on? And the e -book is broken down. All

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the lists of materials are broken down into that.

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a base, an add -in and the tools. So if you don't

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have sand, but you have pluffle or you have kinetic

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sand instead of water, like you can adapt things.

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Again, my add -ins are going to be very different

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from your add -ins just because we all have different

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materials. Same with the trays. You might, your

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kids might be really into sorting. So you're

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going to be putting more trays in. compared to

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a classroom that they're really into the fine

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motor of tongs and pinching and things like that.

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So it's adaptable to anybody. Amazing. And what

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I'm hearing is it's also so strongly based on

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your classroom and what the children are working

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on. So like you said, if they're not working

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on the gross motor skills of dumping, if they

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need more of those fine motor training, then

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you're going to put in the tweezers or the tongs.

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Exactly. It really is an inspiration guide for

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educators and families just to go a starting

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off point. And it gives you that ability to base

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it around your children and the kids in your

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care. And you know them best. And now Kayla and

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I have only known each other for a short amount

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of time. We met at the EC experience, which was

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incredible. Ever since I met you, you've hyped

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up sensory bins so much. There's not a point

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that I'm like, oh, you know what? Can I have

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a second guess? I fully believe that you know

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why this matters so much to you, but I would

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love if you could share that reason with me.

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Is there a moment or is there while you're creating

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this or while you're working on your business,

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is there what spoke to you that said, this is

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why sensory play matters so much? Sensory bins

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matter. The biggest thing that I've taken away

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over the last little while of looking back on

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my career is sensory bins have been timeless.

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They are something that has shown up in every

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classroom I've worked in with every age ability

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of children. And I think we see... the sensory

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bins out and about now and they're in stores

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there's so many small shops but they're Pinterest

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worthy sensory bins and it makes it unattainable

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and we think well we can't do that we don't have

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that and I wanted to bring it back to the basics

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of we don't need all the fancy stuff but sensory

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play is so important for our children. And it

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needs to be in every classroom. Every child needs

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access to a sensory bin. And as educators, we

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have the fancy, we do the elaborate, but just

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bringing it back to the basics is awesome too.

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Yeah, and it reminds you of why you do what you

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do and why these sensory bins are important.

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Absolutely. You're so right. These Pinterest

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-worthy sensory bins, it makes it unattainable.

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It makes it feel like, okay, I'm an educator.

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I don't actually make that much money. I can't

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go to Michael's. Bless Michael's. I love Michael's.

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But I can't go to Michael's and buy these sensory

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bins that are just going to be destroyed or the

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children are going to be not interested in them

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after a week. So then what? What do we do then?

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Where I think your book really brings it home

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to, nope, we can do this. And there's so many

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great things that we can do on our own that we

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don't have to go out and buy these quote unquote

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expensive materials. Yeah. Absolutely. In your

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15 years of wonderfulness, I'm sure a lot longer

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than that, but 15 years of ECE, what one sensory

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play moment that really stuck with you or revealed

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something special about the children in your

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care? Just to put it this way. One of my favorite

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ones. was I used coffee beans in a sensory bin

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and the smell of my classroom was to die for,

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like just the best. But I had coffee beans and

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I think I was mimicking like dirt was my intentions.

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But the kids took, I had wood cookie blocks in

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there and they were smashing the coffee beans

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and grinding the coffee. And this was school

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age. But to take a material that they probably

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don't know what coffee beans are, but the aroma

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and to crush them. And then they were turning

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the blocks brown because of the coffee beans.

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And this is probably 10 years ago. And I still

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remember, I still can smell the smell of those

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coffee beans and just how excited the kids were

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to have that element in the sensory bin. Oh,

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I love that so much. That would have taken your

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learning on a completely different turn on what

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you were planning on. And that's what makes it

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so beautiful too, because then you're like, okay,

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I guess we're learning about coffee and how it's

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made because now the children are doing it themselves

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in our sensory bins. Yeah. You would have had

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some very fresh coffee. I'm a little jealous.

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I would take that coffee over the mud coffee

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that my toddlers make now. Fair, very fair. Oh

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my goodness. If you can shift one mindset in

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the field about sensory play, particularly for

00:27:55.380 --> 00:27:57.500
school -age children, what would it be? School

00:27:57.500 --> 00:28:01.099
-age children need and deserve sensory play just

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as much as the young toddlers and preschoolers.

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I love that. And I couldn't agree more. Wholeheartedly,

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I agree with that. I think that it is an important

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part of development. I think it's also an important

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part for accessibility and inclusion. So that's

00:28:13.900 --> 00:28:17.490
beautiful. Where can educators find your new

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ebook and explore more of your resources through

00:28:20.609 --> 00:28:24.190
Capable Learners? They can find it at capablelearners

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.ca as well as I'm on Instagram at Capable Learners

00:28:28.349 --> 00:28:32.589
Day Home. I share videos and tips and tricks

00:28:32.589 --> 00:28:36.289
and just day in the lives of a day home operator.

00:28:36.609 --> 00:28:38.990
So you can always find me on Instagram. And for

00:28:38.990 --> 00:28:42.150
anybody listening today, if you want that ebook,

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if you comment or use the code bins five, you

00:28:45.789 --> 00:28:49.089
get $5 off the ebook. And I'm sure Jamie will

00:28:49.089 --> 00:28:51.970
leave the link down below. Oh, I will. As well

00:28:51.970 --> 00:28:54.650
as your contact information because your Instagram

00:28:54.650 --> 00:28:58.509
gram has been popping. Okay, it's so great. I

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love I love following along with all the amazing

00:29:00.630 --> 00:29:02.710
things you do in your day home. And finally,

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if there's anything else that you'd love listeners

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to know, Before we wrap up this conversation,

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is there anything you want to say or anything

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else you want to talk about about sensory bins

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or just anything? I think we hit most of it.

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I think we nailed it. Amazing. Kayla, you are

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so wonderful. This is incredible. And I am beyond

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excited for what this brings to educators at

00:29:24.490 --> 00:29:27.269
the level of sensory and to see everything else

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that you come up with for this. I'm so excited

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that sensory bins are going back to the basics,

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but also that you're bringing so much more than

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I even thought of to sensory bins. I was talking

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to you, I got so many great ideas, and I am literally

00:29:41.950 --> 00:29:43.849
excited to order your book right now because

00:29:43.849 --> 00:29:47.009
it's so much fun for the children, and it also

00:29:47.009 --> 00:29:49.529
brings a level of fun for the educators that

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I think we all need right now. Well, thank you

00:29:51.900 --> 00:29:54.380
so much. And I just love talking about sensory

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bins and I can talk about them all day long.

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So I'm excited for you to get your hands on it.

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And I can't wait to see how you take my ideas

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and adapt them to the kids you work with. Thank

00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:08.059
you, Kayla. And thank you, listeners. Thank you

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for tuning in to another day of the Forgotten

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AC. And stay cool. And we will chat soon. Bye.

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Thank you. Amazing listeners for your support.

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