Hello everyone and welcome back to the Hostel Road Trip Podcast.
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Welcome back to the Hostel Road Trip Podcast, season 3.
We are super excited to be here with Jordan and Cory on the south side of Chattanooga
at the Crash Pad Hostel, which we had the glorious advantage of staying at last night.
As I was telling them, the mattresses were so comfortable.
If they had woke me up and told me it was Saturday, I would have believed you
because I literally didn't wake up one time once I hit the co-o.
And we all had the benefit of meeting at the American Hostel Conference, which was awesome.
Incredible. And had the time to come here.
But thank you so much Jordan for being with us. Thank you James.
Cory. Yeah, thanks guys. I really appreciate it.
And what we'd like to do is, this place is so impressive, we're going to do a two-part episode.
We're going to talk about the actual construction and design of this awesome place,
more so with the owners after this.
But you both are the management team. And how long have you guys been working together?
I've been here for about six years now, starting in the summer of 2012.
Nice. Yeah, and then he came in right after me.
Yeah, it's been going on five years.
And you can feel the synergy between the two.
Now Jordan, how did you get into hostels?
That was a weird one. So, I'm from Indianapolis, Indiana. I'm a small-ass fisher.
No hostels there, right? No hostels. There is one now.
Oh good. Indian Hostel. If you ever get a chance, you'll always find great people.
Nice. The right on broader who actually I'm from, or that area.
But I kind of moved all over throughout the country.
Ended up getting into rock climbing from Indianapolis. There's a gym there.
I kind of traveled to California. Went to Kentucky as well.
And then came here. And I was actually a cook for a very long time.
And then that's how I met Dan and Max from climbing with them and also doing certain like discourses for them when they came into the restaurant.
That's how I got the job here. Nice.
Now, Corey, how did you get yourself into hostels?
Kind of indirectly, like Jordan.
Yeah, like got into climbing. Met the, you know, had a college roommate that was friends with all these guys from Indianapolis.
So, I met some people down here before moving here.
So, kind of had like a little base of friends.
And then was like writing to work at the climbing gym one day.
And stopped here to fill my Nalgene up. And was talking to our former GM, John Ying, who's a huge mentor for both of us.
And he was like, hey man, we might have a spot open. Would you be interested?
And I was like, I've never done that before. But yeah, I love helping people.
And it's, so, you know, it wasn't even really a hiring process. We were like, yeah, let's get back.
That's great. You know, it just fits in so well. You're from the Windy City, right?
Yeah, I'm from Chicago. So, yeah, I met all these guys in college.
I went to Purdue in Indiana and then lived in Indianapolis where they were all from for a year before I moved down here.
Worked at the climbing gym that they all went to in high school.
So, it was like this little party spot.
Oh, it was his day. Yeah.
But neither of you had stayed in a hostel before working here.
Ever.
And that is so cool to see because if you were to ask me, I would have thought you would have had an extensive hostel experience beforehand, that legendary.
But you were just such a good fit for the model here.
Personality, you know, as if he was there.
But this gets back to what we were talking about at the conference with these smaller boutique style American hostels that are experience based hostels that we've been about.
This is very much an experience based hostel.
It is a lot of people might think crash pad also is where you crash on the pad.
But this is actually built around the climbing and rock climbing industry and what the actual crash pad is that you fall on.
Not to take anything away from your mattresses.
They're a little bit harder than that.
But so the climbing is what kind of brought everyone together here as a team from the ownership down to management.
You guys are admin climbers.
You cater to and promote that you're a hostile for the adventure style.
So tell us a bit more about the rock climbing community in Chattanooga.
That's one of the best communities I've ever been a part of.
Actually, it really is a good vibe.
It's what makes this city hard to leave.
Yeah, I tell people that often.
You're going to get sucked in.
We were both making trips here. You come once and then you're like, maybe I can fit another one in next month.
Maybe I can just stay another week.
Outside of here.
Yeah, even when you go climb somewhere else, the climbing is amazing.
There's so much around here and out west.
After a while, you're like, man, I just miss the cruise.
Yeah, no one's clicky. Everybody really cares about each other.
Everybody cares about the land.
Yeah, access to all the climbing areas and the hard sandstone that we have.
It's unique to this area.
The southeast has its own sandstone band.
It's pretty extensive because you can find some of the stuff up in southern Illinois,
there's Pocketson, Ohio, southern Pennsylvania a little bit, and then basically south of there.
We run on the same band as the Red River Gorge
all the way down to Little River Canyon two hours south of here in Alabama.
All the way down to Slate.
There's a seal still out there.
You were saying that last night, we were having a pint.
You were saying that pretty much within an hour's time in different directions,
you can find all kinds of different spots.
We're still developing.
The Southeast Uncommerced Coalition, they're always buying property.
We're going about developing that.
It's one of the most successful coalitions in the country.
They have to be.
We don't have the BLM land.
That's the Bureau of Land Management.
We have private property.
That's what all of the southeast is.
That's really interesting.
It has to get bought up to be preserved.
Which is an awesome move in itself.
Exactly.
When we think of BLM land out west, it's like that's where I can shoot my guns
and not be in trouble about it.
It's still kind of good here too.
This is south.
You can't use your ears to shoot your guns.
That's one of our funnier, out in San Diego,
one of our most popular tours of the hostel is going to the rifle range.
They always look at Bobby and they look like, oh, this hippie with the surfboard.
They're thinking that it's range day and he's out in the back
and he's BMW cleaning and shotgun.
I'm like, this kid's like huffed in.
We're all fired up and ready to go.
With rock climbing, we talked a bit about it last time.
I've never done it as I'm a bit of a heavier fellow
and I'm always afraid that rock's going to come out on me.
Is it like the adrenaline rush of rock falling?
Is that part of the...
Because it's going to be great exercise.
You must be working muscles that you just never would hit in any other exercise.
Is it like kind of like mountain climbing when you get to that summit?
Is this euphoria?
I think it's different for everyone else.
For me, it's just like figuring out all the micro beta movement that you need to do
and 99% of it is like pretty much, 99% of the time you're not doing any problems.
Once you finally ascend, it's like doing a coat-bind.
You're out of the roof and you're just like, oh my God, I just finally did something.
You get to take a view, all this stuff, and then you just feel accomplished.
It's very similar.
I know we have a similar thought process on this.
We used to skateboard when we were younger.
It's the same thing with skateboarding.
You're trying to learn new stuff.
You're trying to learn the 88, 99% failure rate until you find when you get it,
when you stomp it, you're just like bolts.
Right away, it's just great.
It's kind of the same thing with climbing.
I know some people that climb for the adrenaline.
There are definitely people out there that do, and that scares the shit out of me.
You need adrenaline junkies that are out there.
It is not.
We're all soloing.
We're all super solo.
I just use it to clear my mind.
After that, I did a little bit of it because I'm not a rock climber.
Last time I was in bed, I was just kind of Googling stuff.
There's one kid that does these reclines that are, you know, fucking super.
He's on the other picture of them.
His hands are like, his fingers are like a different feeling.
One thing that he was saying was that you can't,
you literally have to dedicate all your focus to what you're doing.
Therefore, it's therapeutic in a way because anything else you have going on in your life,
it's going on.
Take a step aside.
I completely agree with that.
I'm not doing anything.
It is definitely like an escape.
I can turn my brain off, and I can allow my body to move.
You focus on the movement.
You kind of get to know your strengths and weaknesses a little bit more.
That's a form of mental game.
That's a form of meditation.
We do a lot of yoga and meditating at our hostels.
That, when you get good at meditating,
it's pretty much when you're able to clear out all the noise in its essence.
I think that that's in its raw form.
You're putting yourself in a very different situation of like,
you don't really have a choice.
You're not sitting on a yoga mat.
There's times.
You can't fall.
There's times we've been in that.
You get to a point, a certain point, like, all right, I'm going.
There's no, you can't go back.
You can't fall.
That's exactly what I mean.
Another interesting one I was just looking up on took me the last night was the
the essence of it, kind of like being like a chess game.
You're planning all these moves in advance.
Like, I'm down here and I'll put my hand in this crevice or I'm crevice,
but I'm going to take 20 moves ahead to how I can get up here.
So that's also in its essence a really cool thing to think about.
Like, you really have to be thinking through this.
It's like boxes, and you're trying to figure out, like,
you can be in this one position for this certain box.
How do I, like, move to get to the next box?
Yeah, to get to the next box.
You're in a tentacle position to get to the next box.
It's, like, we call it projecting, and it seriously is.
It's, you have to put together this project.
You have to work the beginning, you have to work the middle,
but how do you connect those two now?
It becomes, like, very much like figuring out these different sequences.
It's different for everybody, too.
It's the next part.
Like, what he does is totally different than what I know.
And, like, what Drake's done downstairs compared to what we can do.
Like, one of our other managers, like, he's 6'2", he's super long,
and really, really strong, and I'm, like, 5'7", and have no upper body strength.
Yeah, yeah, different styles.
Exactly, yeah.
And it goes with our other manager, too.
He's a caver, but he has the same kind of projecting,
but it's for exploration.
What's a caver?
He's like...
Do you go down in?
Yeah, he goes down.
We go up, he goes down.
Oh, my.
We recently found out that he's one of the leading...
I think he's a pro-caver.
Yeah.
He's so humble about it.
He's just like, oh, yeah, I love caving.
And then if you get him talking, he'll just show you pictures.
He's like, oh, yeah, I found this a mile and a half down.
Like, no one had ever seen this before.
It's like all these museums now and stuff.
And you're just like...
You know, when you're a caver, you're probably, like, going into places
sometimes that haven't been...
Oh, yeah.
He lives for that.
Oh, my God.
He showed you his tick list and it was like thousands.
Thousand plus caves.
He's mapping like, I don't know, a couple of like...
He's mapping.
That's a real badass.
He's like, weird adventure.
Like, no one else has this, so I'll map it out.
You know, that's impressive.
Yeah, the pictures I see are those...
Those are like my worst nightmares.
I know.
He's hanging, like, rushing waterfalls and we're just like, what?
Squeezing through cracks under...
Aqua under water and stuff.
Oh, what?
Yeah.
He's a badass.
It's cool.
But he has the same mentality.
Yeah.
Caged up.
He learned something new every time.
Yeah.
Now, I think this is also, you know, for a lot of reasons, I think,
for the health benefits of it getting outdoors, you know,
I think we're constantly trying to find a way to not become more
desensitized by all of our media stuff and being in the box.
But I think also from that clearing of the mind and kind of that
meditation, I think that's why you see such a big movement in the rock pile.
Yeah.
And I think you see it out in Big Bear and other locations as well.
It's more and more common that it's not mountain biking or hiking
or a gear climb.
Yeah.
But then in that is there this community and this subculture that's so
interesting to watch.
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Welcome back.
We are still here at the crash pad in the south side of Chattanooga with
Jordan and Cory.
We just had some epic talks about rock climbing.
I'm ready to take on my first adventure when I come back next time.
But now we're here to talk a bit more about the guest experience.
Just before we broke off, we were talking about how you can host
weddings here, you can host events here.
You obviously have a great climbing community here.
But this is for all types of backpackers.
Not just for climbers.
Yes.
You should definitely look this place up if you're a digital nomad, a
person traveling through.
So tell us a bit more about your guest diversity.
It's kind of based off season.
Every season has its different guests.
It could be winter time, we have the climbers, maybe some mountain
bikers, but go more into springtime.
That's when tours are coming through, families, the weather is getting
nice.
Traveling, traveling to your home.
A lot of races.
Okay.
And then summer, it's Ironman, triathletes, cyclists, weddings,
and international travelers, a lot more international travelers.
In the summer time.
Yeah, just one time I experienced that southern mentality.
They picture cowboys, shirts and hats.
And a lot of people are like, what's up y'all?
I want to say y'all.
I think it was Byron that touched on that at the conference.
Talking about how the south is kind of in right now.
And we do see that.
A lot of people from overseas are doing the trip down to Norweeds and
then over to Memphis.
I think that the south has the advantage of that genuine,
authentic feel that a lot of people are into right now.
Southern hospitality.
It's a thing.
You can't get out of the market or the grocery store sometimes.
Unlike Chicago, New York, I hate not them.
You will get stopped by everybody just because they want to have an
actual conversation.
It was a huge culture shock for me personally.
Chicago is like New York or Boston.
Get out of my post office.
I've got somewhere to be.
I'll step on your throat to get there.
I guess Station Clerk was asking me how I'm doing with it.
I'm not buying anything that you're going to try and sell.
What are you trying to sell?
Everything slowed down a bit.
It's nice.
When you do slow down a little bit,
which I think we could all take a lesson from this digital age,
because everyone is so amped up and going.
We laugh about that as we're on the road driving around on the podcast.
When we were up doing season one in the Northeast,
just our general normal vibe of going to a parking lot and
the ticket booth person.
They're like, hey, how's it going?
And they look at you like, why did you disaster?
Take this ticket and move on.
And then they're like, oh, sorry about that, sir.
Just in a good mood here.
For sure.
I think that it's very important to know that you can come here under
all different scopes and have a great time.
What about the age demographic?
Would you say wide open?
Wide open.
We were talking about we get conferences here where everyone in the
community is coming together and we're like,
Hey, we're going to have a meeting.
So we'll be like 16 up.
Yeah.
Some fundraisers we do.
Yeah.
For some conservancies.
Yeah.
It's just most older crew.
Yeah.
I think so relax.
Yeah. It's a great, it's a great.
But, you know,
we get the families that come through here too.
And they'll bring their kids.
I know some hostels are.
About that.
Yeah.
And we're like,
I think we're going to be able to kind of include as many people as we
can.
Yeah.
We're not a part of the hostel.
So it's like,
Yeah.
Most people are here to like get sleep.
Yeah.
Like get up and go and enjoy the city.
Yeah.
Enjoy the city.
Everything.
Yeah.
Check it out.
And then for hostel operators out there,
that can be so beneficial to you.
If you're, you know,
if you coin yourself as a party hostel or the biggest attraction theme you
have is getting blacked out.
Yeah.
Your place is getting dirty.
It's going to be messy.
Yeah.
So it's going to be a good place.
And I think it's going to be more of a fun place to come.
Yeah.
And it's going to be,
it's going to be more of a fun experience.
And I think it's going to be a good place to come.
Yeah.
Like there's no doubt about it,
but you have to be a good place to get,
to be secure.
I'm going to say this, you know,
you guys have a really cool skeleton type crew.
There's not many of you.
More of us.
Yeah, that are running this place,
but it's running extremely well.
And one of the first things we know is the security system.
not someone at the desk all night for graveyard. I thought to myself as we were going through
it last night, I'm like, you know, I love all of our receptionists, but I'm just thinking of that
like, you know, 20 year old, you know, graveyard that's very easily distracted. And I'm like,
I'd probably take this key fob over again. I love them, but you know, if it was not to,
you know, the security of the element, it really well thought out here with those systems. But at
the same time, you do have beer for sale in your lounge, which is so cool that you could come in
and have a cold one, but in a very mature and respectful way. Yeah. We kind of set the tone
of the door. Yeah. When people walk in, you know, we're not, you kind of look around and see the
place and like, this is a beautiful building. People walk in and really take that in respect.
Yeah. Yes. And I think they, another thing that we talked about last night, we got here, and I think
for the owners of this operation, one of the things they should be very proud of is that it would be
very easy to think that you two are the owners. Because the way you care about the place, the way
you talk about the place, the way you're passionate about it, the way you're kind of living it,
breathing it along with it. When we were at the conference a few days ago, I thought you guys were
the owners. And when you said you were, I was like, oh, that's cool. And then when we continued to
get here and hang out last night, I was like, these owners are lucky because when you're speaking as
an hospital owner, you want your manager to take ownership in it. And that's very hard to do
without them actually being owners with you. So what would you say some of the things that
Max and Dan have done to create a culture here that makes you guys so proud here, you know,
makes you feel like you're the owners? I mean, it's overbook management 101. So they kind of just
empowered us to, you know, they gave us the tools, the data, the education to like, actually feel
like owners. So we see the data, we see all the numbers, we see what's going on behind the scenes.
Full transfer. Exactly. And so we come in and just, yeah, we feel like we do feel like we own this
place as a baby. We know pretty much everything about from an operations standpoint. And I think
a lot of that came down, I know, but Dan and Max helped start it for sure. But at least for me, it
was John and Beth and the two people that were above us that brought us on. They have their culture,
they're creating a culture of just like going above and beyond and caring for the team,
first and foremost, and will help drive the care, like wanting to care so much that the
people that come here are going to see that. Yeah, top down, it kind of rubs off. Yeah. And I had
never worked for a place that cared so much about the person that they just brought into the team.
Yeah. You know, they used to emphasize that we are family. Yeah. So often. Yeah. And, you know,
going above and beyond for your team first, and then that will help everyone go above and beyond
for the guests that just got here. Yeah. I think that's very good advice for the listeners out
there. But it's also, it's just great for the whole operation. You can feel it from the
moment you walk in. And a person loves to be proud of where they work and they love to be a part of
it. But that's good advice on having that full transparency and including you guys in the big
decisions, trusting you guys to make big decisions and to operate the place as you see fit. Yeah.
Definitely rub off in that way. Now, what would you say for a potential traveler who isn't
a rock climber or boulder who's coming in and maybe also isn't that digital nomad that's very
prevalent now, a person who's coming to work for a few days and then you guys would see some of the
guests out there right now or in that format. What would a potential international traveler,
millennial traveler coming in, hostiling, what would they do for fun stuff here at Chattanooga?
Yeah, I mean, there's too much. This is like our biggest, you know, crux sometimes is like,
there's so much to do here. It almost takes like a week or two just to kind of like get used to
like what's going on in the city. But I mean, they can come in, they can go to looking,
look out mountain, they can go to Craven's house, which takes the point part, just
in our two sunset rocking back. You got a great music scene, right? Music scene is,
you know, it's not been coming. Yeah. Well, right around the corner here, what's this?
We got song verse, guitar verse, guitar verse, guitar verse, guitar verse, guitar verse,
song verse, guitar verse, guitar verse, guitar verse, guitar verse, guitar verse, guitar verse,
right next to station street, which is now you can grab a cup and you can actually drink around
and go to each and every one of the bars. We're right next to all the, I mean, we have discounts
for 37 bars and restaurants all around us. Heck, you can do like a 3.7 mile running loop or hike
that's right downtown. Is it a state preserve? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Rock City, Ruby Falls,
River Walk. It's like a 25 mile back and forth, basically elevated at sometimes right along the
river. It goes all the way up to the dam and now it extends all the way out to the lookout mountain.
Awesome. It is very outdoor. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Definitely. And then the bar next door to the
hospital, you know, so you can have, you can buy a beer inside reception, but we've got a full bar
restaurant that's owned by you guys. Commercial bar. Right next door. Tell us just a bit about
that place. What's that place like? It's really nice. It's beautiful. I mean, looking at it,
it's beautiful. It's one of the wards for one of the best looking bars in the country. Architecture,
I like art wars. Yeah. But the food there is just like, what type of food? It's a Southern spin. I
get you're the kitchen guy. Yeah. You work with chefs. Yeah. Ben Parks and I, we used to work over
at St. John's restaurant together at Meeting Place and at St. John's, but I almost like to say it's
more, I mean, they're trying, we're in this weird, I was just talking about, we're in a weird funk of
like trying to figure out, the bar is trying to figure out like who they are in this new area of
the Southside where everything, all these restaurants are popping up all over the place.
I would say it's more of like a shareable, it's like, it's almost like a tapas place. Shareable,
small plates that you can just share with everybody. At the same time, like if you're like really
focused on like dinner, like we do have like, they have like full on sets, like chicken sets,
salmon sets and all that stuff. Their cocktail program is incredible. Yeah. Seasonal rotating
drafts, like, I mean, we try to keep it all local. It is someone's on the table. It's just a, it's
a beautiful restaurant and that's, I mean, you also get 20% of the food. Yeah. Well, I think one of
the cool things and advantageous that you guys have here is that you're, the owners clearly got into a
part of the neighborhood right as it was starting to get revitalized. Classic Main Street revitalization.
Yeah. Yes. And we pulled in here and right away we realized like, wow, we could have just parked
our car and walked everywhere and got into bars and music places and restaurants and very easily
just kind of started to explore it. So it's really cool that you found yourself in this
booming city within this booming neighborhood and at the perfect time for it. Yeah. The very
advantageous for you guys. Now tell our guests, potential guests a bit about the price point here
as if you're coming through Chattanooga and you want an option to stay at the hostel,
like what would a bunk cost? Yeah. So our, our bunks are 3D and I tax you for a little high, but
that's an onto the choice. Yeah. So yeah, it's going to run you right under 45 bucks with everything.
Okay. Just stay in a bunk, you know, includes breakfast, includes wifi, gay city,
the fastest internet in the world. Yeah. Yeah. Very fast. You got a cool little hangout area with a
grill, a fire pit, a full kitchen, like all, you know, all local stuff for breakfast, laundry,
free linens. We don't allow any outside linens. So you can grab as many as you want. We do have
wooden bunks after all. Well, but we stayed in the bunks last night and we were actually in the
private rooms where you have to have a nice queen size or that underneath and then the bunk up top.
I thought we gave you the hook up. Yeah. We needed that after a few rough days.
Haskell Sears Design did all of our woodworking for us. Who is Haskell Sears? A local company,
local woodworking company. They do some seriously good work. A lot of our stuff is mostly,
oh, it's pretty much all reclaimed. Either reclaimed from the old building that was on site or
it's scraps from their warehouse. So they did a beautiful job. Those things are sturdy. Yeah.
He was on the top bunk. He moved around. I didn't hear. They're not moving. Yeah. So you're not
waking up the neighbor down low. So that's nice. That's why we hated the metal bunks. Well, I went
to wood, but yeah. Well, I mean, it has its advantages, pros, cons for us, but I've actually
been a fan of the wooded bunk bed because we really are making bunk beds for adults. Yes. You know,
and bunk beds that are not made custom by wood are made for children 90% of the time. Yeah. And
that shows how it feels, how it sounds, how it feels. So if you can make a cool wooded bunk
custom made, you know, I think it's personally for me a favorable way. Yeah. I mean, we definitely
made it for adults. Yeah. Twin XLs there. Yeah. You can be 6'8". And you got the curtains on the
bunk. They're very well made and comfortable. Now, what about the price point of the private rooms?
Private rooms. So we have a couple different models. They start at $89 a night. That's just
a regular private room. You get a queen bed, sitting in there, personal storage units, showroom units.
Again, all the restrooms, they are shared. Men's and women's restrooms on each floor, each one with
two private showers, two private stalls, hand stains, hand towels. Towels are already, you know,
lids are already on the bed. Back to the private rooms. Sorry. There's an 89 dog with a couple
different models. 89, 99, 119, 199 for the suite. Kitchen and everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you
have a nice range of private rooms too. And we always encourage listeners out there, especially
the Americans and the millennials, that if you're wanting to try this social experience, but you're
a little bit hesitant, try out the private room. Get your feet in there and see how that goes and
then work your way into that dorm room. But I think two of the foundations that you guys have
nailed here is the safety and the cleveless. If people feel secure and that it's clean,
then they're much more willing to try to share the environment. Yeah. And that you guys nailed
that one because it's very clean and it's very secure. Yeah. And we were talking about, you know,
the big part of your guys' presentation was like getting over that stigma. Yeah. As an American
hostel. Yeah. And we do get a lot of first time guests. First time hostel guests, not just Chattanooga,
never stayed in a hostel before. Yeah. We get it every week. We get people in. And we do have to
say like, just so you know, like I love, usually they love it. Yeah. But just so you know, not all
hostels are like this. Yeah, that's true. It is an uncommon hostel. Yeah. But we use that private
room. Yeah. We know the importance of getting those people into hosteling. Yes. And trying to
beat that stigma. The security and the cleanliness are, you know, that's right off the bat. You notice
it before you even meet us. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Clearly. It's organized, styled, and makes you
feel safe. And I think that for anyone out there who's thinking of trying out a hostel for the
first time, this is an uncommon hostel, but it's the type of one that you would want to break in
with. And the type of one that if someone did stay here for the first time, I guarantee you're
winning them over to the hostel side away from hotels. And we encourage all listeners to come
to Chattanooga, try out the crash pad, whether you're a rock climber or not, this is an upcoming
company that's going to make its mark in the industry for sure. Jordan, Corey, thank you so
much for being with us. Thank you. It's been a pleasure. Yeah. You're at Southern Hospitality,
has revived my soul. We are ready to en-road and we are going to head for Nashville next.
And thanks so much for listening and stay tuned for more great episodes from season three
of the Hostel Road Trip podcast.