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Hello everyone and welcome back to the Hostel Road Trip Podcast.

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The podcast that literally takes its show on the road.

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Listen in as James Black and Bobby Dyer, owners of International Travelers House Hostels,

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travel around the country to learn about these great locations and incredible people

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that come together to provide a unique and exciting experience for travelers from all over the world.

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Welcome back to the Hostel Road Trip Podcast Special Edition American Hostel Conference Annual Number 2.

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We are here and we're a bit blushing because we are in the presence of a Oscar winner.

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Kind of a big deal. Mr. Weinstein from the Auberg Hostel in New Orleans.

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Thank you for being with us.

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Thank you guys for having me. I'm so excited. I heard it's your first season.

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I've joined as always with my co-founder Robert Dyer and a shout out to Ham Bone Mark Needham.

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Oh! He does his pose.

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So, first question. What is auberg?

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Everybody asks that. It means like hostel or inn in French.

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Of course I was just in a taxi cab with the chair just moved on me.

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And with the door open, she was like, exactly. I'm like, just stop. We're going to leave it at that.

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We're going to say it does.

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Well, it just went down. Maybe my leg touched it.

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In Canada, like Quebec, there's a lot of auberges and stuff like that.

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So a cousin of mine when I was doing this said, you know this name, blah blah blah.

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I was like, hell, it's an A. In the old days, we used to pick A's for the phone books.

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Right? Yes, yeah.

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And so I guess that's where the name came from.

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The French connection to New Orleans.

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Yeah! Okay, this all makes sense.

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Although it's not. It was only six years ago.

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Yeah, okay. So six years ago, how did you get into the industry?

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Before, so my mother had a little motel outside of Yellowstone.

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So family and the hospital.

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Right, exactly. She was a teacher. She's retired, sold everything.

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Moved up to Cook City, Montana, right outside of Yellowstone. Bought this little motel.

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It was a beautiful place. I moved there. She ended up selling it.

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I stayed and ran it for the new owners for several years.

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And then at some point, wanted to come back.

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I mean, it's what I did, you know?

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And so I knew then I could do like a bed and breakfast or a hostel.

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What should I do?

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And I would always travel for about a month into off season there.

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And you know, staying in hostels and stuff like that.

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And you know, I don't remember the exact moment, but I'm glad I did.

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This demographic is just so, this group of people that we deal with is just a happy.

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Yeah, well, that too.

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But I mean, I just love the people, you know?

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Yeah, okay.

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As opposed to like, nothing wrong with the motel crowd and stuff.

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But it's just a different level of happiness, a different right. Exactly.

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Okay, that's cool. Now, this was the way to go.

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Why did you choose New Orleans?

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I'm from there.

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You're from there?

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That's where I was before I went to Montana and then I came back.

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So I have family there.

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Now, what is the market looking like down there now? How many hostels we got?

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11 or 12.

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It's growing, right?

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Yeah, when I opened, I think there was like six of us.

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So it's doubled in your time.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And it's very competitive down there.

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It is, but like, for instance, HI, who, you know, they're here, they're, she mentioned today,

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she's popping, they're building several more properties, more homes there.

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I'm sure it's going to be pretty new and nice. It's going to be great.

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Something like 200 beds, you know?

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Okay, so we're talking big boys.

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But another large one did just close and I think a couple of small ones might be on the way out too.

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So I think that'll negate it.

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And other than that, I feel like New Orleans hasn't been saturated yet.

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I mean, like, I feel like, I mean, whatever, I'm not worried about it.

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Oh, well, it's a great city.

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What is the guest experience like at your place?

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I would say like, we don't say like party hostel in the name,

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but if you were to look at our Instagram feed or the Facebook, you know, any social stuff, it's party every day.

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Yeah, I mean, that's what you were talking about, like the hostels and stuff.

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I think that that's what sets it apart is the atmosphere that the guests have there for sure.

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It's a fun city.

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We do events every night.

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It's a fun city, yeah.

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Every night, you know?

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And other hostels don't do every single night, like events where there's a party every night going on, you know what I mean?

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So that's that perfect sweet spot we're talking about.

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Yeah, you were mentioning that earlier.

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You know, just you can have an intimate connection with the guests.

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You can throw those events.

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You're in a party city.

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You're a party hostel.

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You're rocking and rolling.

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How do you, the operator, not get burned out?

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So I don't do it anymore.

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Ah, you've stepped aside.

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Yeah, I've stepped aside.

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I don't do it anymore.

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I've got wonderful people who come and help me with that.

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But, you know, like you get your World Packers guy.

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I get a lot of those people who really help with the atmosphere.

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And they'll do like leading events, stuff like that, you know.

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That's important for operators out there.

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You don't have to do it every night yourself because it's not possible.

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When you first started.

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And I don't know about you guys, I'm 36 now.

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And these guys are 21.

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The guests are 21.

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I can't physically do it.

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So, yeah, I don't even do it anymore.

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But, I mean, I might go out every now and then to socialize,

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or I might go to the little pregame.

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I mean, I'm still there.

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I still live there.

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So, you're still on site.

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Just because of construction and stuff we have going on,

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and it'd be nice to see life change.

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But, I mean, I'll still live in New Orleans.

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But, I forget what we were saying.

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Oh, so I think now more, I mean, I'm still there.

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I'm heavily involved.

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But it's more like just during the daytime talking with people.

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I mean, I love that more than anything.

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You know, just talking more than the business or the maintenance side

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I like to talk to the people, help them have a good trip,

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help them have a good time.

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But I know, just from experience, you don't win a Oscar just because of party.

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of being a two-time Oscar winner at your age?

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That's pretty impressive.

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I think, I mean, I really do think that it's just, you know, as the owner,

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and I don't know if you guys are this way, too,

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but you're probably your own worst critic.

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And so I look at all this stuff and it's like, you know, I see all my negatives.

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You know what I mean?

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And I see like, God, I wish those things were better.

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And it's like, we just, we were redoing some rooms right now

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and I'm building these wonderful custom beds and stuff, you know,

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but because I look at my old beds and I'm like, they're all metal and stuff.

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They are wood, yeah.

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We built them that way.

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I mean, I can't weld or anything, but yeah, they're wood and we built them.

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But I mean, whatever, I've never had an issue with bed bugs.

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I believe that, too.

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they're definitely forgiven.

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If you look at New Orleans, the hostels are hostile world.

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If you look at just all the hostels in that city are ranked well,

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a nine in like New York is like probably the best one or something.

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It's really high.

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it could be a 9.2 or 9.0 or an 8.9.

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I think that plays a big role.

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doing the events and having a staff that's like really attentive and caring and engaging.

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And everything you would expect in a lot of rooms now have a light and an outlet.

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Like we do have, I mean, coming from that background before,

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you guys don't have to come by one day and maybe you want to see what I'm not seeing.

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But like there is the things like we leave out,

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We leave out, like I have fresh towels, not just the towels for them on their bed,

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Little touches.

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You're dialed in.

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Lotions and soaps and different things like by every sink and stuff like that.

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So that stuff is, I think they do see that and appreciate that.

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There's another little thing.

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More than the average Oscar.

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I think that's encouraging for us out there.

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You don't need to extend your way to that Oscar.

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You can be creative and you can look at the details.

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I don't really know.

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They don't really tell you how.

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I just know that we get good reviews and that's what gets you there.

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They won't ever say, but it's like somebody said it today.

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I think it was Darren.

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The algorithms.

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It's like the BCS factory.

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We don't know how the hell that happens.

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But it's not that happens.

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I am right now.

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We're currently building another second location.

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Can you read Die-Vulge where?

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I love it.

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No, I just love Mississippi.

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I'm like a hostel.

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Mississippi's got no hostels.

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So you're putting the first one in.

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That's right.

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Yeah.

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Fucking A. Good for you.

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You'll have to Google it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's about an hour south of Memphis.

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It's the home of the blues.

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Oh, bitch.

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I don't know if you ever make music fans here.

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John Coltrane type of thing.

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Yeah, I'm like Robert Johnson.

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Oh, like Crossroads.

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And Led Zeppelin influences.

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Right.

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Yes, yes.

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Eric Clapton and all.

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Eric Clapton has an album like something like the Crossroads.

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Yeah.

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That's all that.

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So anyway, I ended up there because a guest, do you want me to tell the story?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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A guest left a key fob to this place called the Shack Up Inn.

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And it's not a hostel, but it's a really cool place.

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It's called, on the key fob it said the world's first B&B bed and beer.

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And it's a really cool place.

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They take like, the first place took a barn and the rest of it's these like grain silos.

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And they have, they started with six units, they have 42 now, so they're doing good.

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Anyway, I went to that.

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I wanted to see that.

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And I was just driving around on a road trip or something.

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I went to that.

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And during that trip, I realized, well, God, this town, there's live music every night

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of the year.

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And there was nothing but all these like foreign people around.

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These are like my market.

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And they don't like a hostel, you know?

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So anyway, so that's what got me doing that.

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So I purchased a building there.

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Awesome.

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Fucking A. That's great news, man.

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So good to hear that.

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Now, another question I have is we heard so many great things about you from Byron Bunda.

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Okay.

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And we were doing a podcast with him during season one.

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Yeah.

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And he spoke very highly of you and his time down there with you.

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What are your thoughts on the need for and how an association for hostels in America could develop?

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Yeah, no, I mean, I think I've talked with him about this for probably since we first met.

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Yeah.

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And to me, my main push to him then was, I don't know why, maybe it's from my perspective or whatever,

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it wasn't so much some of the, I don't even know what to say, but like some of the little website things,

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but it was definitely that unity and that voice that it could give us smaller operators,

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especially when it comes to knowing having to deal with like localities and municipalities and all that stuff,

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giving them a voice, giving them like he's trying to do with the letter that he's talking about with the Airbnb issue.

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And to me, that was like a lobbying voice type thing.

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Yes, very much so.

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And that's what I kind of stressed to him then.

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And I think he is kind of stirring the whole thing in that I think you probably didn't just hear that from me.

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I think he's heard from a lot of people.

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There's nothing out there like that.

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Right. And I feel like we do need it.

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We do need it.

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And it's happened in other places.

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Yes. So we have a model we can replicate.

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Right. And we can, I mean, we can negotiate things with different communities or OTAs or whatever it might be.

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I mean, there's power and we're not all HI.

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We're not all generator.

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Yeah.

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So, but yet we still have power if we are together.

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If we're combined.

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Yeah.

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And we have I don't know how many thousands of visitors, whatever it is, we're still like we're an economic force then.

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Yes. Now the new location in Mississippi, will it be that same boutique size?

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How many beds are we talking about?

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It's going to be, the idea was like 22 dorms, like six rooms, 22 dorm rooms, beds, sorry, beds.

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Okay.

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And three privates, probably like a mixture of like four, you know, four or three.

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So similar.

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Something like that.

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Similar. Yeah. A little bit smaller, a little bit smaller, but real nice.

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See, it's a big, it's a great building.

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Like I could do more down the road.

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This is exciting.

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Huge building.

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And another episode to be added to our golf season.

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There you go.

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Golf states.

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Yeah, the golf states when we come through.

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But we thank you so much for taking the quick time to meeting with us.

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Two time Oscar winner.

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So very excited to have you with us.

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Thank you.

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I'm looking forward to doing full episodes at both your locations.

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Yeah, for sure.

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In season five, the golf states.

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Stay tuned for more great episodes on the Hostel Road Trip podcast.

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Thanks so much for listening.

