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Hello friends and travelers. Thanks for listening. You are riding along on the Hostile Road Trip podcast. Our mission is to spread awareness of the true hostile experience in the Americas and share stories from the fascinating hosts who create those unique facilities.

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I'm your host Jimmy Black, joined alongside co-founder of International Travelers House, Bobby Dyer, and Eric Ferria, co-founder of World Packers.

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Each session we sit down with hostile operators or travel influencers to hear about their road success, discuss trending hostile topics, and close with tips for travelers who are seeking to have the ultimate experience when visiting each destination.

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You can't afford to miss this trip. Now fasten your seatbelts and let's hit the road.

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Welcome back to another episode of Hostile Road Trip podcast. My name is James Black. I'm here alongside here with Bobby Dyer.

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Excited to be here on the ship. Eric Ferria from World Packers. Thank you guys. So excited to be here with you. And Benjamin, the steward of the ship, the Liberty Clipper.

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Hey guys, thanks for having me on your podcast tonight. I really appreciate it. Outstanding. Alright, so we are here in the beautiful city of Boston on this amazing tall ship hostel.

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And we're here to talk a bit about the experience and the vessel and the facility itself. But first we want to hear a little bit about Benjamin. Oh really? And your journey and how you got here to be the steward or as we would call it in the world of hostiling, the manager of the hostel, let's say.

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The equivalent to onboard. But how did you find yourself here? What was your journey? So a long time ago I used to manage a bar and grill with a couple of friends of mine.

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And there's this girl that came in to our bar that I'd never seen in our little small town in Alabama before because everybody knows everybody. Yeah. So she was sitting there talking about boats and I said, yeah, I used to work in Marina.

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And so we got to be friends. And then later on down the road she would come in and out because she would be working on boats. And then one day she was like, hey, do you want a job on a tall ship? And I said, that sounds cool. What do I need to do? And she's like, send in your resume and I'll get you a job.

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So I sent in my resume and the company called me and said, can you be here yesterday? We really need people. And I was like, well, I'm running a bar right now, but give me a few minutes and a few days, whatever. I'll be there.

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So I flew up here in 2015 and turned the bar over to another friend of mine that was managing the bar with me as well. And I've been here ever since. It's one of the coolest things I've ever done.

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I've traveled up and down the East Coast on this boat. Got to see a lot of cool cities from the boat and been out on the open ocean just sailing and having a great time. We go to the Bahamas for six months at a time.

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And we just, you know, we want to make sure that anybody who stays on our boat has the best experience they could possibly have. They're doing something very unique because without those people, boats like this would go away.

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I mean, when's the last time you saw a horse in a carriage actually hauling cargo or something, you know, except for the novelty of the idea?

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Sure, sure. So the energy of the crew is such a big part of it. That goes into the experience of the guests that they have.

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Now, this is your first hostility experience, right? You hadn't stayed in or worked at hostilities before. I think you said that before we started.

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No, no, no, no. I was just really good with guests as a deckhand talking to people. I'm literally not shy at all.

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Sure. Willing to talk to anyone.

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Yeah, exactly. Which may or may not get me in trouble one day. No, only kidding.

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Perfect for the hostility manager though. That's what you want.

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And they were like, we need somebody to manage a hostel and be good with guests. And so I raised my hand and said, I'll give it a shot. And so they were like, all right, you're a guy. And that was in 2016.

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That was after a year being a deckhand on this boat and met with some challenges and overcame them and had the support of like the office, the crew and everything, which was really good.

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And so we worked as a team to make it happen. And we've had a very, very successful hostel seasons since I've been managing it.

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Beforehand, we were doing very well too, but I don't, you know, the owners have always said, you know, you're doing a great job. Just keep doing what you're doing.

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That's what you want to hear. That's what I'm going to do then. All right. As long as you guys are happy, they're like, it's your baby. Handle it. We like how things are going.

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Everybody's having a good time. We've got a lot of good reviews. So far so good.

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They do not lie. Tell us a bit about this beautiful vessel. How big is it?

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So this vessel right here is 125 feet from the bow to the stern. I believe it's 80 to 85 feet on deck.

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Okay. And we are 101 feet tall. We are designed after the, what they call the Baltimore Clipper ships that used to run cargo up and down the East coast.

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All our sail handling is manual. There are no buttons. There are no winches. So when we handle sail, we are doing that by hand.

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And we were dealing with a lot of nature, wind and weight, depending on what we, what happens when we're on an open water transit.

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So I've been through this boat in storms. I've been through it in good weather, bad weather, ups, downs, lefts and rights.

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Yeah. It's almost like, it's almost like I'm married to the boat, so to speak.

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I love hate relationships.

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How many crew does it take to move this beast up and down the coast?

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So if we are sailing down the East coast, we are required to have 12 crew on at a time, 12 crew.

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We run, we run watches. So there is always somebody awake 24 hours. We rotate through that four hours on eight hours off, depending on the conditions and what's going on in the boat at the time.

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We take passengers. What we do is we will leave Boston actually at the end of September. We will go from Boston to New York.

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We will take a group of passengers. We will drop them off in New York. We will pick up another group.

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We will go to Baltimore and then from there we will do the same thing. We will go from Baltimore to Portsmouth, Virginia.

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We will do the Chesapeake Bay Schooner race, which is really fun if anybody's interested in doing that.

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And the cool thing about that is like win or lose. Everybody wins because we all have a good time. We all have a lot of fun.

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The crew works together. There's nothing on this boat that you can do yourself.

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Got you. Yes. So teamwork. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Teamwork is very important.

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Getting along with people is extremely important. So, yes. Now, with regards to the hostile guests in their rooms, the guest accommodations, what type of rooms do you have?

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They've all private, all two bed. How does it work? So they are all bunk beds on this vessel right here.

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Nineteenth century boat, almost 19th century air conditioning if it's hot. Not going to lie. But we do have fans. We have two fans in every cabin.

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If you need extra fans, I'm the guy you come see. Yeah. And I will try to make you as comfortable as possible.

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We are one of the best deals in Boston, to be honest with you. There are a lot of hotels and other places you can stay at.

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But we're in a central location where you can go from one point to another train stations, wherever. Walk to South Station. Exactly.

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Tourist tourist tourist wise, I think we're probably one of the best locations.

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One of the cool things is that we're on a tall ship. So when you stay on our boat, when you come in from out of town and someone says, well, where did you stay in Boston?

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Why are you visiting? They say, I stayed on a tall ship. And they're like, what? Yes. I stayed on a boat. Wow. That's amazing.

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Not, you know, anyone can say, oh, you stayed at a hotel. Oh, was your hotel nice? Oh, my God. You stayed on a tall ship. How was it? What was it like? Was it? Yeah. Great conversation.

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Exactly. Yes. Now of these cabins, how many do we get on board? So during the hostile season, during the summer, we have roughly eight to nine cabins available.

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OK, so we can hold up to 16 to 18 guests. That's a nice crowd. Yeah.

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At night during the transit and the Bahamas season, when we head down, we make actually 12 cabins available so we can take up to 24 guests at a time and then hold about 12 crew.

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Nice. Now, these guests that go to the Bahamas and on these longer trips, are they paying guests that are just enjoying or are they working guests that are kind of... They're paying guests. Oh, nice.

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They are more than invited to join in and do what we do if they want to learn. Nice.

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In the Bahamas, we run six day long trips out of Nassau and we go to Eluthrot or the Exumas. OK.

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And we take people paddle boarding, snorkeling, swimming, beach parties, all those kind of fun things.

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And if they want to learn how to sail, then we will try to teach them what we can in a safe manner. That's awesome.

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For example, I had a guy who was a science book editor and wanted to get into boating.

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And he came to see us. So I said, well, I'm going to give you the full on deckhand experience.

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You're going to plunge some toilets. We're going to clean some heads. I'm going to get down and dirty with you. I'm going to do it with you.

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I don't have to, but I want you to... Yeah, I want you to like... I'm not going to ask you to do anything I wouldn't do.

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And now this guy, he went to the Dennis Sullivan, which is a tall ship out of Milwaukee. And from there, he went on to work on the Spirit of South Carolina,

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which is another tall ship based out of South Carolina, which is a very beautiful ship. We have a lot of friends that work on there.

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So, but yeah, that is amazing. Now, so you have the 12 crew. Do they all live on board? We all live on board. I've lived on this boat since 2015. Awesome.

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And you just move around with it like pirates of the state. Yes, sir. I love hostile pirates. Exactly.

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Do you have a favorite passage during your year that you like to... I really like the Baltimore Chesapeake Bay Schooner Race. It's really fun.

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The reason for that is we get to race a bunch of other schooners. So we get to see all these tall ships.

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We get to be involved in the tall ship community. We get to see friends because we make a lot of connections and friends when we see each other and we meet each other,

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because we're all sailing around during the seasons and everything. And once we do the Chesapeake Bay Schooner Race, win or lose,

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we all have a good time because at the end we have a big barbecue. We all meet up. Yeah, we have a big party.

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I have free beer, free oysters, free barbecue. You can't beat it with a stick. Yeah, sailing around the land. Yes, exactly.

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Well, we are having a badass experience here right now with Ben on the Liberty Clipper. Tall ship in Boston. We'll be right back after this break.

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Welcome back to Hostile Road Trip. We are here with the steward of the Liberty Clipper, Benjamin. Another fine episode here.

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We are in the saloon or the salon. We call it a salon. Sometimes we call it a saloon. People like to say saloon. I don't.

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It's badass either way. It is actually the proper term. We call it the grand salon. Oh, I like that. I just feel grand out here.

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We're enjoying ourselves here on this beautiful tall ship, but we want to talk a little bit about the trendy topics in the hostel industry

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and the challenges that all hostel operators, whether you're a steward or a manager face,

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and some of the bad perceptions that are out there that we're trying to break through with this podcast series.

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So you obviously have a wide range of guests that come. Do you find any problems with the stigma of the hostel word or industry

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or perception in this unique situation where you are on a tall ship?

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So I'm very interested to hear if you ever get any blowback or hesitation from guests because it's a hostel.

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So the biggest thing is we have cabins, which are all bunk beds.

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And a lot of people say the accommodations were rather a little bit small.

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The biggest thing we get is that it was hot. But we operate on a boat that doesn't have air conditioning.

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And we try to make that clear. So that's one of the big things, especially during the summer.

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A night like tonight, it's like perfect weather to sleep. Sleep like a baby. Yes, to sleep on the boat and everything.

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You can sleep on deck if you want to. That's a nice option. Yeah, you can.

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It is a lot cooler up there. We'll drag a cushion up there and help you out and get you tucked in nice and neat and everything.

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I know on transit and down in the Bahamas, we have hammocks to hang out.

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So if somebody wants to sleep in a hammock all night, they're welcome to do that.

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That's great. Now, in these two bed dorms, is there ever a scenario where you'd have strangers staying together?

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So the thing is, is that if you book a single shared cabin, if the boat is totally full, then it could happen.

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You would be in there with someone like you and someone of the same gender.

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That's good. Me personally, living on this boat, I know how much privacy is a very valued commodity on this vessel.

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So if I can spread everybody out, I will do that to the best of my ability.

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Even if you had four shared, you'd put them all separately.

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Exactly. Yeah, I would make sure everyone got their own cabin and had their own space and everything like that.

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One of the things, we live on a boat, so when you take a shower, it takes a few minutes for the hot water to get hot.

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Just aim it away from you, wait a few minutes, and when it starts to feel warm, then you can start doing your shower thing.

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But sometimes there is a little bit of misrepresentation on things.

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People don't quite understand what they're getting into. They don't see a 19th century tall ship. They see a place to stay.

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So we want to make people aware of what they're getting into, and we want to make sure that once they do get into it, they have the best experience of their life.

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Absolutely. That's one of my top goals as far as being the steward of this vessel.

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Well, you can tell you're doing a good job, and as we stayed here a few nights ago, we can personally commend that.

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Great stay, good time, nice staff, and well operated.

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Where do you find the majority of your guests come from?

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All walks of life. I have had people from India, Germany, Mississippi, all over the world.

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International. Yes, international.

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Is there more international than American in the hostels? I would say it's about 50-50. It's a good mix.

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As we're trying to get more Americans involved in this, we keep on hearing that number moving up, and we call it popping their hostel cherry.

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Once they do it, once they love it, they want to come back. So that's what our purpose is here, is to get the word out there.

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We've had a repeat guest who's actually from America, and I think from Boston, who has stayed on this boat up until recently at least two or three nights a week.

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She's loved every minute of it. She's always really nice. She actually brought us some coffee mugs, which sailors love coffee.

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The hero controls the coffee, controls the schooner verse, as we say. If anyone catches the dune reference, points to you.

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Do you have any challenges with security, with people coming on board that shouldn't have booked, or issues with getting a little rowdy or drunk?

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We have a duty person that is on board all night, and they pretty much manage things.

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We're in a very, very safe area. Like I said, I've been on this boat since 2015. I've never seen any weird things. I've never had any problems.

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That's great.

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If they even cross the chain and we catch them up at the gangway, we're like, there's a chain there for a reason. What is your purpose here?

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We will drill them and grill them and make them feel very uncomfortable until they leave, because we have a hostel to run. We want our guests to feel as comfortable as possible.

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There is security walking around. There is security walking around by all the nightlife out there.

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Hotels, the bus, the bus.

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They know us as well. They see us every summer. We've made good friends with them, so they take good care of us.

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It does feel like a very secure neighborhood from our personal experience. It definitely had the feeling, even though there wasn't a station with a graveyard receptionist, you did feel as though the crew was watching out for you the entire time you were here.

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That's awesome to hear that you've got people stationed and on call throughout that whole time.

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How about with the sharing economy really booming right now and everyone's wanting to try new experiences. Have you seen a difference since you've been here since 2015 with more bookings, more people that want a unique experience like St. Herb?

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Increasing stagnance.

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I think it's picked up a little bit this year, because there was a period up until recently, because we are nearing the end of our season before we leave.

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It was every night. I would go to the office. I would take the dirty laundry to the office, grab my manifest that tells me who all is staying at the night.

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It was very busy there for a while. Cabins are full, full boat. It seems to be picking up this year. When I took over in 2016, I'm not trying to brag or pat myself on the back, but the office manager said that it was the most successful hostel they had ever run.

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I had no idea what I was doing. I just volunteered for this job and made sure everybody had the best experience. They were like, you did great. Don't leave.

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There you go. It takes a certain type of personality to be able to connect with all those different cultures all over the world. Not many could do it, so you should pat yourself.

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I try to just make it up as long as I go.

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You're a natural. That's how it works.

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Thank you.

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Do most guests go on the day tour as well?

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We do offer a discount to a lot of the guests. I would say probably about 70% of them do. They have a really, really, really good time. Especially when they tell me that they are an overnight guest.

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If they let me know that they are an overnight guest, then I try to go above and beyond to make their experience even that much better for not only the hostel, but the day sale that we're doing and everything.

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I'll say, this is what we're doing. I'll try to get them actively involved in something simple like coiling a line down after we raise sales a certain way and tell them a lot more about the boat more so than I would if someone didn't go on a sale with us.

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Awesome. I want to take a quick break, but then when we jump back in this, I want to hear more about the sailing trips and also a little bit more about the nightly accommodations and options. We'll be right back. Stay tuned.

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Welcome back to Hostel Road Trip. We are here with the finest steward east of the Mississippi, Mr. Ben.

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Hey, how's it going everybody?

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Eric from World Packers.

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Hey guys, thanks for inviting me.

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And my partner from ITH Hostels, Robert Dyer.

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Good evening.

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Okay, so we want to jump into some of the awesome elements and experiences that make this tall ship the most badass hostel ship in the US.

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And one of these awesome traditions or events you have is that guests get to go on the sailing tours as we were just talking about.

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So what would the price point be of that for a guest to go with their discount?

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So with a discount, I believe the sales are roughly about $30 to $40. So you get a 20% discount on your sale if you're a hostel guest with us.

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And we will show you how we actually raise the sales. We get everybody involved on the boat.

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Awesome.

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We try to get everybody to help us haul the lines. We try to get them involved as much as safely possible.

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And we try to tell them how we live on a boat like this and what these boats were used for.

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Like I was saying earlier, they used to use cargo and run them up and down the East Coast.

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And at the time, they were the fastest ships before the invention of the engine.

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So where people stay now would be cargo holds. But we try to get everybody on the boat involved in hauling the lines with us.

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Because our sales that we have on this boat are heavy.

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Yes. Our main sail alone weighs 2,200 pounds, which is almost as much as a 57 pickup.

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We have another sail that's about 1,500 pounds. So we try to get people involved.

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There's nothing on this boat that we live on that you can do by yourself.

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And that's an awesome element too.

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Yes.

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So this is definitely not only a fun experience, but an educational experience.

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Yes.

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And a historical experience.

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Exactly.

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We're going to sail you a little bit of history and get a little salt in you.

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Great.

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I like it. Now with the adventure sale being about $34, what would the price point be for a guest to stay by themselves for a night?

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If they were just staying by themselves, our rates started about $16 a night.

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Which is just amazing.

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Yes. And that would get you a shared cabin with you and someone of the same gender in the shared cabin.

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However, me personally as a steward, if I could spread you out and give you your own cabin, I will do my best as long as the boat is not full to capacity for a hostile guest that night.

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Sure.

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So you roll the dice and you may get a roommate, you may not.

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If you can help it, you won't have a roommate. You'll have your own place. You'll be able to like kick back, relax, enjoy yourself.

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I have seen a lot of friendships happen through having a shared roommate, which is really cool.

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That's always well cool to watch people come together and like have a good time, especially like in the Bahamas where we're full to capacity and I do have to put two people in the same cabin.

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And then they wind up becoming like best friends.

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That's awesome.

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Yeah. That's all about the hostile experience right there.

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So the unique element, if you're not to go on the sailing tour, but you were staying for a few nights, you'd have to get off and go about in Boston and come back around eight.

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But you can leave your stuff on board, right?

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Yes, sir.

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Okay. So that makes it nice. You can leave your stuff on, go out about town and come on back. That's a nice feature.

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Now, what about in regards to just some amenities, regards like in the morning, I felt like we were spoiled, but we showed up at night and there was a catering event the day before for the sailing event. We got to eat some burgers that were left over.

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And then the next morning, one of your staff made us some coffee. So what could the guests expect in general in that sense?

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So depending on what's going on that morning, depending on what's happening, we'll try to accommodate you the best we can. We don't always offer coffee, but if we have coffee, mi casa su casa, if you're with us, we have a rule on the boat.

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Nobody goes hungry. And if you're a coffee drinker and you want to have a cup of coffee before you leave, we usually have our duty person brew a pot of coffee in the morning.

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And as long as it's not empty, we'll get you a cup of coffee. You know what I mean? Don't expect it, but we will try to provide it best we can, of course.

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We do have like private charters and usually those are catered. And if you come on and we have all this food, we're like, you know, it's only going to be good for so long. So if we have it, we're going to try to feed you.

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That's great. And I think that's a very nice thing. You make the clear expectation that while it's not included, it's probably going to happen that you'll be offered something from the staff, which is so gracious. And there is a Starbucks just around the corner, too, in the hotel, if you woke up a little too late.

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Yeah. So that's just another awesome feature.

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I got a couple questions. You mentioned that you didn't have previous experience in the hostel industry, in the shared accommodation industry. It seems like you're doing great. And it involves a lot of people, right? You have your staff here. What's your secret? What do you do to motivate, to keep the staff motivated?

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So as far as the staff, I just try to like bring a positive attitude to everybody, because that spreads. You know what I mean? I try not, you know, I don't let things get me down. If I encounter a problem, I try to figure out the best solution to make sure that everything runs smoothly.

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With the hostel guests, I try to make sure that they see that I'm happy when they show up. You know, whenever they show up, I'm like, Hey, how's everybody doing? I might open with some kind of joke or something like that, you know, or one of my favorite jokes is like, Are you guys hostel guests? Oh, yeah, let me go find the steward. He's not that good. I'll go grab him. Then I'll come back and say, Hey, I'm the steward, you know, people are like, Oh, you got us.

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But having a positive attitude through everything, no matter what gets you very, very far. Yeah, it makes the people feel comfortable. It helps with whatever situation you're dealing with. And it just makes for an overall good experience, not only for the guests, but for us as well.

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Absolutely. So, you know, I made a lot of friends working through the hostel just like me by being a positive person like, Hey, I know where a nice restaurant is as you tacos. I'm headed there. You're welcome to follow me if you're hungry or I know where there's a nice little pub down the street. They have a really, really good prices on their beer. So if you guys want to follow us, we've been going there for years. So come hang out and see what we do. And if you don't, then you can go to bed or you can do something else. It's totally up to you. You know what I mean? So we'll leave some of that for you.

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So we'll leave some of the experiences open for them to figure out what they want to do and enjoy themselves as much as possible. Awesome. Yeah. And what do you do to make sure you always have staff helping you and you're not short in staff? So this summer, I've had a really good assistant named Dustin, who has been helping me above and beyond. Normally, every summer, I have somebody who covers me when I'm off during the day.

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Communication is key. We have a duty person as well that's on board the boat all night due to Coast Guard regulations and they handle they handle watching over the boat at night. And every duty person that I've had, if I have a late guest showing up, I'll say call me when they get here. I'm no more than five minutes down the street from the boat. And I've had to meet guests like one o'clock in the morning.

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Or I will if it's not raining, I will leave my number up on up on the gangway there so that people can call me and they can say they can say hey I'm a hostile guest you left your number is this Ben and I'll say this is Ben I'll be up in two seconds give me you know let me let me let me throw on some clothes and I'll show up and then I'll show them to their cabin. So that way they're accommodated as best they possibly can. So all right. Cool. What about like recruiting staff? Is it mostly word of mouth or how do you get people to show up to visit?

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As far as working as far as working on this vessel? Some people some people go through word of mouth. Some people have been sailors for a long time and they're looking at they're looking at tall ship jobs and we're always looking for people. A lot of people will come on the boat. They'll work for like a summer or something because you're in college. A lot of people just say I want to know how to get into this industry and be a tall ship sailor. It sounds really fun. And like I said I got into it through a friend. She said hey I'm a sailor.

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Hey do you want to do you want a job? I was like that sounds amazing. Yeah. So I sent in my resume and they hit my references and they were like you're hired. Now is that through you could go to the Liberty Clipper website and see jobs. You can. Or is there a website for tall ship workers? There is. I believe it's the bill it bill. If I'm not mistaken dot com. All right. I could be wrong. You might want to double check that. All right. But you can also go to our website.

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Or some of the other tall ship websites and see if they are looking for employment. Because a lot of people like to work on boats and they go work on another boat. So they might work on this boat for a little while. Some boats do contracts where you do like a three month contract or whatever. Yeah. And then they and then they're like my contracts up. Now I want to go work on a different boat. This boat right here. I really like the program. A lot of these boats are educational. Yeah. This boat here deals almost strictly with passengers.

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And guests. And we have a lot of people that come on that you know it's a bucket list. They say it's a bucket listing that we want to do. And we're really excited. So I want to make sure that they have the best experience they can possibly have on our vessel here. That's all. It seems like if you get on one of these vessels it's like a community and you can then after a good performance jump around to other vessels. Right. So yeah it is a big community like I was saying earlier. These things are historic. Yeah. And without

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like people staying on them enjoying the sails and everything they would probably be winding up in museums. Yeah. And everything. Yeah. Yeah. Without without people like you guys I'd have to get a real job.

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All right. Well we are almost wrapping up our episode here of the tall ship. We'll be right back after this short break with Ben from the Liberty Clipper. Welcome back to Hostile Podcast. We are wrapping up an episode here on the Liberty Clipper tall ship with Ben the Steward.

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Hey how's it going. Thank you for having me tonight. Eric. Thank you guys. Bobby. Always a pleasure. We're excited to be here and wrap things up here. And we just wanted to finally talk a little bit about a guest experience as you have the unique situation where a guest could check in for a couple of nights.

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But they wake up in the morning and they're not going to do the sailing adventure because they did it the day before. So now they're going to get off the boat from let's say from 10 to 8. What would you say to that backpacker who can leave their stuff on board so it's convenient.

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They're going to go off to the land. What do you think they should do. What would you suggest. So one of the things I would suggest would be the Freedom Trail. Awesome. Because we're in Boston one of the most you know we pretty much are the most historic city in America.

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Oh geez. So the Freedom Trail is really really good to do. Let's see. Going over to the north end the Paul Revere house where Paul Revere lived is amazing very historical. The North Church is great. You can you can go check that out.

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Amazing architecture. Oh yes very much so. Yeah. Lots of lots of really cool buildings throughout the city. I believe it's called the Marriott custom house which is the big clock tower that you can see from the boat. And I think you can pay like if you pay seven dollars you can go all the way to the top hang out up there all day.

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And I think if you pay like 14 to 15 dollars you stop along the way you go to the bar they give you a nice stiff drink and then you go to the top and enjoy your drink. While looking out over the city. I know my friend and I last year went and did it when the eclipse was coming in.

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So we watched the eclipse from the giant clock tower which was awesome. And then I went another time with another friend of mine and we watched a giant liquid natural gas tanker come in which was just amazing to see. They had all the security helicopters flying around and everything.

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It was just really cool to just watch it go through the water. But you have a great overview of the city. But lots of historical things go on in Boston. I believe the Green Dragon is considered the oldest bar in America. And they think that's where like the tea party was born.

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So and when you come on to our boat we are we are the oldest war in the country. Where we're at now where your dock is the last place that British soldiers stood during the Revolutionary War before before they left the country.

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That's so cool. Yes. Oh, there's so much history and it's so important to know that this boat is located in a great location of the city walking distance so many things like South Station. Transportation is easy and you really could hop off the boat within a hundred yards beyond a few bars and restaurants.

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Exactly. So it's really a great spot. Now you were mentioning earlier a little bit about this Fourth of July. Oh yeah. And how bad ass that is.

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You want to hear more about what would be the most awesome day to be on the boat.

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I would choose the Fourth of July because the USS Constitution did a giant turnaround where they went all the way out by Fort Independence which is the oldest fort the oldest United States fortified structure. It was built in 1634. And so the Constitution went out there. We shadowed it along with several other boats.

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Yeah. And they did the cannon battle. Oh, and while we were on we offered catering to our guests. We did the good old fashioned barbecue Fourth of July thing hot dogs hamburgers. We had a full bar on board that day. So we were you know drinking beer like good old fashioned Americans you know go USA.

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And it was a really really good time. We all had a lot of fun that night later on that night when we did our fireworks sale we went down towards Charlestown which is kind of where they believe the Boston Tea Party happened.

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Okay, and watch the fireworks from there the Constitution was docked over there, as well as the cast and young which is a battleship from World War Two that survived to come a cause the attack. Wow, both of those ships are living museums now and you can go visit them during your time off right here

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on the Warf. There are little fairies that leave every 15 minutes that take you over there, and they'll drop you off and then you can jump back on the ferry or you can take the what they call the subway or the tea home.

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We're in a central location to go to all kinds of other places where a few minutes walk from South Station North Station.

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There's a from the airport, we're literally like maybe a stop or two away if you need to jump on a flight early. So we're in a very good location for tourism, history, and just having a good time.

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If you meet us and you stay on the boat, I will suggest on tons spelled it's spelled like and tames but that's our sailor bar we've been going to for a long time so if you happen to find yourself in there just say hey, we're friends with the guys from Liberty Clipper and they'll take

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very good care of you. That's awesome. And you know you make a very good point there and amongst all the other great walking attractions in South Station in the sailing tours you actually have all these fairies surrounding us in this Warf that are obviously going to all these other different areas so you really could stay here for a few days and see a lot of things.

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Oh yes sir. Yeah, that's fantastic. Well, it's just been an absolute pleasure having you. We thank you so much for your time. Oh no problem.

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Thank you for having me. It's been an absolute pleasure. My pleasure. I think it would be a big loss if anyone came through that backpacking corridor of New York City and Boston and they didn't stay here at the Liberty Clipper because it's such a cool experience. Great location, great staff, and just everything is so cool. We did it ourselves so we can't speak highly enough of it.

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Oh, thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you so much to our listeners and thanks again for Bobby Dyer being with us here. Thanks again for joining Ben. Oh, thank you. And Eric from World Packers. Thank you guys. So happy to be here in a boat doing the podcast. Yeah, that's a new, interesting experience and we thank you so much for it and stay tuned with us next episode as we travel up to Burlington, Vermont.

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Thank you.