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Welcome to the Live Out Loud podcast. As promised,

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I have a special guest on here with me today,

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our very first guest on the Live Out Loud podcast.

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This is very exciting times, you guys, and I

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am so happy to share today's space and conversation

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with none other than my oldest son, Josh, who

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is 15, almost 15, I'm sorry. And we're just going

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to have a great conversation today and hear from

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him a couple of our family dynamics that you

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get to hear from someone different than myself,

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right? And that's super exciting. So stay tuned.

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Let's get into this conversation today. Welcome,

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Josh, to this space. I am so glad to have you

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on here and for our listeners to get to hear

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a little bit about someone who is a part of this

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family other than myself. And I'm so glad that

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you have said yes to this scary and daunting

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task of being on the podcast with me. But thank

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you. Yeah, it was definitely interesting when

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you asked me that question. When I asked you

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to come on with me? Yeah, it caught me off guard

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when I was like, oh yeah, I'll tell you all that

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for a second. It can be a little scary to talk

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into a microphone and have a conversation. Anyway,

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I am so glad to have you on here and we have

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discussed a few questions that I would like to

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ask you and I'm sure that people would love to

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hear from your perspective. But let's just start

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with a very simple question and one that's so

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much fun to me because I love books. But what

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are you currently reading? Well, actually, first,

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before we jump into that, let's say, tell people

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your name and how old you are and something you

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like to do for fun. My name is Josh. I am 14

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going on 15 and almost in April. That's a nice.

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Yeah. Yeah, I like to play guitar a lot. It's

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a big passion of mine and I enjoy making music.

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Yeah, you've been playing guitar for a very long

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time. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, you've more recently

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kind of pursued playing a little bit in more

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structured ways. You're part of the band at church

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and you're looking at expanding and playing at

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community events now. Yeah. So that's super exciting?

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Yeah, so yeah, I'm super excited for that and

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hoping that can become a bigger thing for me.

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For sure. Okay, so let's do jump into our first

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question of what are you currently reading? Tell

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us that. I'm reading a couple of books. One is

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Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, which is

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the fourth book. I'm kind of wrapping up that

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one, but I'm closer to the end. That one's been

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a fun thrill book to read every now and then.

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I'm reading a couple others. I'm reading The

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Mountain War Party by Louis Lamour. Oh, Louis

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Lamour books. You love those. Actually, Dad got

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you into those a couple of years ago. That was,

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I think, one of the - Yeah, the first kiss he

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gave me was Louis Lamour, a Hondo Lane book.

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And that one was really cool and got me hooked

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into them. And so I have a small collection going.

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So what is it that you specifically like about

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these books? I like the adventure of the books.

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For sure. And the lessons they can teach. I like

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the lessons and I feel like they've helped my

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character grow some more. help my view on things

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like or work or I've enjoyed harder work okay

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them and yeah because of the books and just the

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the life trials they've gone through it's gonna

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help me realize like wow man people really went

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through these and okay So that's been cool to

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hear. Okay. And then what other books are you

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reading? And then I'm reading Love Does by Bob

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Goff. Oh, so good. And that's been a really good

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one recently. Just the stories he has and the

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life lessons he can teach also is just amazing.

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Every time you share a story with me, I'm just

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amazed at the ways he put himself out there in

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the world and he just goes for it. And I think

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that's so inspiring and exciting. To adopt yes,

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it was really cool. Yeah, so and you're almost

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done with that book. I think I'm half with her.

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Yeah, okay So I might have to read it after you

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because it looks really recommend just think

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yes, I recommend it. Oh, you're awesome Okay,

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and since I have you here, I would like to get

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into a little bit deeper conversations. We have

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kind of done a little bit of small talk, but

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I want to ask you, what are some of the bigger

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changes that have happened in your life over

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the past couple of years? Tell us a little bit

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about that. Yeah, it definitely changed when

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I had heard you were dating a dad. And that was

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a really big change because I hadn't gotten used

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to that. I think we'd been, I mean, just us for

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five years at that point. Yeah, so that's a long

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time to just be with mom Yeah, and so I was just

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I was used to being like I guess kind of like

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the older man in the house Right and just kind

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of used to having you a lot. And then when uh,

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Kayla came or dad Kayla guys came along Um, it

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definitely changed a lot whenever we got part

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of his family, right? It just felt uh, it's been

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different having like another like a man in the

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house Uh -huh and for sure having I guess like

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a dad again And it's been it's been uh felt very

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different and that's been a very big change Yeah,

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I would have to agree. That is probably one of

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the biggest changes that has happened in the

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last couple of years for you, for me, for us

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collectively. And yeah, one that we are learning

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to walk together, one that we have just prayed

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a lot over, right, in all of this, but it has

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also been very beautiful, I think, and really,

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really neat things to see God working out and

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working through. So, okay, so that's like the

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major change. And anything else you want to share?

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Not much else has, I mean, I feel like, been

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really big in my life. I mean, we moved. Yes,

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we did move. That was really big. We moved up

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to California, from Guatemala, and then from

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California to Idaho. And another big change has

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been losing friends. Not losing friends, but

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having to leave along the way. I would agree.

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And, yeah. That's really hard. Yeah, the losing

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friends and which is actually one of my questions

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that I want to talk a little bit later with you.

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But we'll get to that. But yeah, that has been

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really hard. And we have found some incredible

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people in all the places we've lived, haven't

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we? Yes. God has been so good in that. And yeah.

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Yeah. And it's just been it's been It's been

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really nice to have those great friends, but

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then to also have to like move away from them

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It's also made it hard But yeah, it makes you

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realize that like the amount of the people you

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have backing you up in different times of life

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or you know You can come back to those people

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and it's been amazing to know that you have those

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people Yeah, that is a really neat feeling and

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that we have really good people kind of in a

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lot of places I mean in the south in Louisiana

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we have amazing friends in Missouri, in Guatemala,

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in California, Idaho, and just so many other

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places. Yeah, Arizona. So just different places

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we've been and it's just, that's amazing. But

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I would say the beauty of all of those changes

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is that we're still together and everywhere we

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go, we set up home together. And because home

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is wherever you guys are and where we are together,

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right? So that's a really neat part. And speaking

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of home, let me ask you this. What is a common

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quote that you hear me say that has impacted

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our family life and one that maybe we kind of

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live by? For me that would be we use what we

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have using it wisely and responsibly. Okay. That

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has been like I feel like a big part when I first

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heard it like a couple years ago from what you

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said. I feel like it has impacted the way I treat

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my stuff and how I view it. whether it's a nice

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thing or it's not a nice thing, it still needs

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to be treated properly, because whatever you

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treat it like, it's gonna indicate how you could

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treat bigger things you ever get. Exactly. And

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they're actually gifts from God. It doesn't matter

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if it's big or small, it's a gift from God. And

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actually, I got that. That's not my line. I actually

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got it from a Sally Clarkson book. Really? Yeah.

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We have a lot of Sally Clarkson books and Clay

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Clarkson books in our home, which we love to

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read. This one comes from their 24 family ways

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and they talk about using your things wisely

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and responsibly and I love that that one has

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resonated with you. So that's really cool to

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hear. I think a quote that's really funny that

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one of your brothers pointed out recently was,

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um, I was making, I was making a new hat for

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the website and it said get outside. And then

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Ethan saw me making it and he goes, mom, that's

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your new tagline. Cause you say that all the

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time. And I just thought it was funny that he

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says that I say that all the time. Do I say that

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all the time? Kind of. Yeah. Yes. Yes. But we've

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had some beautiful days and they are worth taking

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advantage of. And in between school breaks, we

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should be outside. Visitors. Yeah. It's amazing.

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Speaking of outside, you love to be out in the

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forest. Yeah. Tell me what you were building

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out there this summer. I was building forts out

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there and a teepee and also working on a tree

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house. Yeah. The teepee is quite awesome. And

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it was really neat to go. and spend the evenings

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out there. You haven't camped in it though yet.

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Not yet, no. Nathan really wants to and so I,

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but we'll see if we get around to it. Okay, maybe

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this spring or summer. Yeah, possibly this spring

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or summer. We were building mats out of cattails

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and that was really fun to get that experience.

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Yeah, that was cool. Weaving things. Yeah, weaving

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things out of cattails from the pond. That was

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pretty cool. And speaking of going camping with

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your brother, let me ask you this. What are some

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of the harder or difficult responsibilities in

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being an older brother for you? Share a little

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bit of that with us. That would be being a brother

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who's there for his siblings. That has been more

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difficult for me to step into that I'm the oldest.

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They look up to me and I need to be there for

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them whether they had something happen to them

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that they need support from or something that

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they love just got taken from them. yeah supporting

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them and taking care of them through no matter

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what uh trial of life they're in and just letting

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even when we get older uh kind of like you and

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your siblings do now how they all like you all

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talk to each other and and communication and

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That's why I feel like I want to be when I'm

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older. I just I want to be that person where

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they look up to and like hey I just just this

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happened. I really need someone to talk to or

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right Can you maybe help me with some advice

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or something just to all be there for each other?

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Mmm. Yeah, I don't know that I would see my siblings

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look up to me, but I think it's it's pretty it

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is pretty rad that they the communication that

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we have and I think just a couple days ago one

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of my brothers was calling me and asking for

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something if for help and you had pointed that

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out right like oh that's awesome that all of

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like all of you guys do that and um yeah i think

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that that's pretty neat and so is that like that's

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a hard thing for you or is it just something

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you carry with a lot of weight and responsibility

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well it's one thing and both i carry a lot of

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weight and responsibility of it but i also just

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struggle to do it And I can see the times I don't

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do it, and that can be very difficult. I'm like,

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I don't know, why'd you do that, man? They needed

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you most, and you failed to be there. And it's

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kind of like saying, oh man, I had a chance to

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bring Jesus and life into these people, and I

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just didn't do it, and there was a chance failed.

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Wow. But it's awesome that you can see that in

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your actions, and that you can then not dwell

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on... the wrong that we did but we can dwell

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on that there's grace and that we can do better

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and try better and and God is gives grace for

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that right yeah that is pretty awesome um anything

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else you want to share in that that is a hard

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difficult responsibility for you right now as

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an older brother no there's so much uh not much

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more i can think about okay awesome so then let's

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move on to our last question which is kind of

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a big one um we had been talking about earlier

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about friends and kind of losing friends along

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the way of moving but my question to you is what

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is a hard thing about this season which you and

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I had I had asked you this question and it you

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know it was finding friends and let's talk specifically

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about that about finding friends in this season

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of life because you are 14 going on 15 and because

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we have moved several times it can be hard to

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have those longer lasting relationships because

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we have said goodbye, right? And with our more

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recent move, I don't feel like we have found

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a group of guy friends that you can connect with

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that speak life to you and build you up, would

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you say? Have you found that? No, not yet. I've

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been looking and it's been difficult. Yeah. And

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so, so in looking, tell me what are some things

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that you specifically look in friendships? Someone

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who I connect with well and I can talk to easily.

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Someone who will listen and will talk. Someone

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who's also not afraid to get their hands dirty

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is a hard worker. Those are good values. Also

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someone who will also help me point towards Christ.

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Someone we can help each other or strengthen

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each other as we grow in our faith and get older.

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Yeah, and we have talked about finding friendships

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since you were very young. Do you remember all

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the conversations when you were little? Yes.

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Of how to find a good friend and the importance

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of this. And then why? Why? Because in Proverbs,

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it talks about friends and who you walk with

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and walk with the whys, right? And so it's a

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very important part. And our friendships do define

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a lot about us, right? Yes. And so they can speak

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life and then... not speak life. So it is very

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important. And so I love that you said that,

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that what you look for in a friend also is that

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they point you back to Christ. And I do feel

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like you have a few of those friendships in your

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life right now, which is pretty awesome. I think

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just where we're at right now, just trying to

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find those young men who can come alongside you,

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I think is, it's been a prayer point for us lately,

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I know, right? Yes, it's been nice to have those

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friends I can talk to and be like, hey, how are

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you? You know, my day's been like this. And just

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having a conversation between us and having a

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friend who can listen and again, as I said, give

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and take. Yeah, yeah. And a lot of them are long

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distance right now. And so, yeah, that is a hard

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part of finding friends and finding... good.

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And yeah, that's finding good friends. So definitely

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preying on that together. But I have to say,

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I don't think that you are alone in this because

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so often in this stage of life, for some reason,

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it can be, it can feel harder to connect with

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friends. And I don't, I don't know why, but a

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lot of it might have to do with raging emotions

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and just our, our brains, they're developing

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in an amazing way. And we are trying to Right?

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I mean, our bodies are growing and yeah, and

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so a lot of it might have to do with that. But

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I don't think that you are alone in that. Right?

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And I think we've, we've all walked through that.

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And so, yeah, just encouragement to keep going.

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Don't settle. God's got this. Right? I always

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say God can bring good friends again. Right?

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Yes. Do not stop praying to believe that He will.

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It goes a long way. Yeah, to believe He will

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because He already has. And so we will see this

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to fruition. I know. Let's wrap our time up together.

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And is there anything else that you would like

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to say before we say goodbye? No, not really,

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but just thank you so much for having me and

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yeah, it's been awesome to join you awesome And

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I love that you are my first guest on the podcast

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I think that is pretty special and I know your

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brother will be next sometime soon So we will

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be hearing from him sometime. Maybe in the summer

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Okay, mamas, I hope that you have had an encouraging

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time together. This conversation with my son,

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Josh, who is almost 15 was just a gift to me

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to be able to hear his heart and have it recorded

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for myself. And then for you guys as well to

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get a little bit of an inside look at from one

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of my kids for family life here. So next week

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on the podcast, we will be talking about simple

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things to cultivate for maximum growth. It is

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a very simple application kind of conversation,

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but I think that it will have a big impact on

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our family lives if we take and apply these simple

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truths of next week's podcast. So that is it

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for today. Until next time.
