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Welcome to the Light Keepers podcast. I'm Clayton

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Vandiver, your Light Keeper, with a show dedicated

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to everyone who wants to get the most quality

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out of life that they can. My co -host is always

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Charlene, our very own licensed clinical social

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worker certified in the state of Florida. And

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she joins our conversation this week about the

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warning signs that may lead to your very own

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silver alert situation. We'll have that and so

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much more on this edition. of the Light Keepers

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Podcast. Before we start, please leave your questions

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much time, so let's get right into this week's

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conversation about those warning signs that may

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lead to a silver alert situation. some experience

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we've both had with silver alerts and what they

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are so we'll skip past that for right now but

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the warning signs that may give you a little

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bit of heads up that a memory issue is it's a

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really gentle slope you sometimes don't even

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notice that and that's the whole point of the

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show today is talking about how sometimes we

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can have a loved one that does have some memory

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deficits that they may be very successfully concealing.

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One of the interesting things about individuals

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with a memory issue, think early stages dementia,

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Alzheimer's, things like that, they develop crutches

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because what happens is this confusion comes

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on so gradually that they're able to develop

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coping mechanisms that While it's helping them

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to cope, it's also concealing the problem. It's

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concealing the illness and it's concealing the

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symptoms. And I'll give you a wonderful example.

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We both had a family member that we knew something

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was wrong. Something wasn't adding up. But every

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time we took them to the doctor, they were able

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to tell what day of the week it was, what date

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it was, the month. Everything. And then we realized

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that they were getting it off of the newspaper

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they were having delivered every day. When they

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missed the payment on the newspaper delivery,

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all of a sudden they didn't know what day of

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the week it was. They didn't know what month

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it was. And it took that crutch out from underneath

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them. It gave away a situation that we suspected.

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but really didn't have any hard and fast knowledge

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of what was going on. It, again, comes on very

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gently and very gradually. And as I talk to family

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members who do have loved ones or a loved one

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with a memory issue, one of the key things that

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keeps coming up is how there were warning signs

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along the way that they missed. they did come

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up so gradually that their loved one was able

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to develop those crutches, those coping skills.

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And a lot of times these crutches, these coping

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skills can pull the wool over the family's eyes

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and even the doctor. That's true. That's true.

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So very often, at least in that particular case

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we're discussing, many close friends... members

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of the church who had known this person for decades,

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known the family for decades, honestly thought

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that we were crazy, suspecting that there might

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be a problem. But they knew there was a problem,

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and they kept looking at me at the same time

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saying, why aren't you doing something? And it's

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a very uncomfortable situation that, hey, there's

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something going on. We all know it. What do you

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do? Where do you turn? Right. This is one of

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the reasons we're reaching out now with information

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to the World Wide Web through the Light Keepers

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podcast because we've gained a lot of light.

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Light is known in many cultures and over many

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centuries. It's been sort of an analogy to knowledge,

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to the ability to understand things. So as a

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light keeper, believe me, this is a topic I've

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got a little light on. Yeah. I didn't want to

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be illuminated in this way. I'll be honest with

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you, it was a painful illumination. Well, and

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it can be. But the important thing is we, through

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our experiences, can help other people to recognize

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and maybe handle things a little differently,

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a little better. Help others avoid some of the

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pitfalls that we fell into. I certainly hope

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so. A little bit more understanding and a little

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bit more knowledge on the part of those friends

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and family members who really had no idea what

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was happening on a daily basis. Those were the

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people that I wish had been watching the Light

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Keepers podcast all along. But again, it's so

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gentle, it's so gradual. It can be. And the coping

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skills that people develop are so good sometimes

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that... Well, for instance, I know someone else

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who was actually in a relationship with someone

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because they were using that person as a crutch,

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if I recall. Yes. That actually that person,

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who had perfectly sound mental faculties, was

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sort of leading them around and allowing them

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to cope in so many ways. And the sad thing is,

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is neither individual recognized their role in

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the relationship. They thought that it was a

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mutually affectionate relationship. But the truth

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of the matter is, one of them was a crutch for

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the other one. Yeah. And the important thing

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here is to help people understand the warning

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signs, the things to look out for. What should

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we be looking for? You might notice is a slip

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in personal hygiene. Okay. People who have dementia

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and Alzheimer's and other memory related issues.

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They forget to brush their teeth. They forget

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to take the shower. They forget to change their

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clothes. They forget to do laundry. And so they

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may be wearing clothes that are soiled. Or inside

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out. Or inside out. Or maybe even something that's

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also commonly seen as the wrong season. If you

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have someone who's wearing long sleeves in the

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middle of June, or conversely, short sleeves

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in the middle of January, this is an indication

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that they may not be in the right place. And

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we do acknowledge for those listeners and viewers

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in Australia, in South America, We understand

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you've got it all backwards. We're compassionate

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and we're understanding. And a little jealous.

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And a little jealous, quite honestly, yeah. I

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mean, who wouldn't want to go to the beach and

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have a barbecue on Christmas Day? It happens.

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Absolutely. But the personal hygiene is a good

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first indicator. Another good indicator is when

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you have someone who's... frequently getting

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dates mixed up now i'm going to be the first

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one to admit well it happens to all of us sometimes

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it happens to all of us everyone who's busy who

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has a really uh you know active life and a lot

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going on absolutely he's going to get and you

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say oh that's just you know i'm getting older

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it happens to all of us no no it isn't natural

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for everyone but when you have someone who consistently

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repeatedly is getting ready for sunday church

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on a thursday or they're calling you going hey

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we had dinner plans tonight and the dinner plans

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were two days ago or two days in the future Or

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they make the dinner a couple of nights before

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you're actually scheduled to have it and they're

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really bent out of shape because you didn't show

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up. Right. That happens. So when you have that

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happening repeatedly, consistently, that's a

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huge red flag. It is. Now that brings up another

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issue too is you do have the risk. when you have

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someone with memory issues their diet can also

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be significantly affected and their health but

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not in the ways that most people think you know

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nutritionally that can bring on some of those

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nutritionally can actually correct some of those

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so you know take some of that away very true

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but what can happen for people who have memory

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issues that live alone is they may forget to

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eat They may forget that it's dinner time and

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they're still in their mind. They just got through

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with breakfast. Never thought of that. But more

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importantly is you can also have a situation

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where they prepare a meal and then they leave

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it sitting on the stove and they forget to eat

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it. And then hours later, thinking they just

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cooked it, they go back to eat it. Now it's sat

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out and now they're sick because they've accidentally

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poisoned themselves. Yeah, it doesn't take all

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that long at room temperature for something that

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has sat on the stove and has been turned off,

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if they remembered to turn it off, and has just

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sat there at room temperature for many, many

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hours, Lord forbid, possibly even until the next

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day. Yeah. And then... Oh, I just fixed that

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because they remember that they just made it

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and they go ahead and cook it. So if you have

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someone who's frequently experiencing symptoms

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of food poisoning, that would be a red flag.

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Again, consistency is... What kind of things?

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Bad stomach distress? Gastrointestinal distress.

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Okay. not feeling well. Something to maybe mention

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to the primary care doctor when you take them

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in about their stomach issues is mention, you

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know, they may not have been eating the food

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that's as good or as fresh. Maybe it's been in

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the refrigerator and it's gone way past its expiration

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date. And the kitchen can be a great place to

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find a lot of red flags because not just what

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you cook. But look at the expiration dates on

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things in the refrigerator and in the cabinet.

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Because people who do have memory issues, they're

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not going to be able to keep up with those expiration

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dates. And they're not going to be able to keep

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up with, oh, the milk's going to go bad next

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week, so I need to replace it. Right. They're

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not going to be able to manage that. Or when

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they do go shopping and they buy things that

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they just bought yesterday and didn't remember.

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So if you look in the refrigerator and you find...

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20 or 30 sticks of butter, you find enough milk

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to feed an entire nursery of children. No, that's

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probably not appropriate for a single person

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living on their own. That's a red flag. Why do

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you have so much? Then the defensive mechanisms

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come out. And that's the other thing is, you

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know, recognizing the red flags, that's only

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step one. Step two. How do you approach the topic?

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Oh, my gosh. The individual that you're talking

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to is going to get defensive. It's going to happen.

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And like is not. It's someone that you have always

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your entire life. As long as you have lived,

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it has been a relationship where they have been

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the authority figure. And now they're not. Well,

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and there's a lot that can be going into this.

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That's a huge dynamic to deal with. Well, not

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just the change in dynamic, but you also have

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someone who deep down knows that something is

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wrong. And so they're afraid. Memory care issues

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are a great thing of putting people back into

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a primal response. Just as an example, pointed

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out a few weeks ago, we were talking about my

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uncle up in the Carolinas, who I discovered by

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editing a news story fed by CBS and editing it,

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that my cousin was on camera being interviewed

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because his dad had gone missing, my uncle, and

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I recognized that. And it's important to note

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that no one really was suspecting that he was

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going to get in the car to go to church that

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day and then never arrive. Well, the day before,

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actually. His church was a mile away. He had

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driven there thousands of times. He wound up

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two states away. The whole time thinking consciously,

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he knew he'd done something wrong. He knew something

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was wrong, like we were just saying. He wound

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up two states away, sleeping in his car periodically

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to rest, just pulling off on the side of the

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road. But he kept thinking, and thankfully he

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was found safe and he could report this to us,

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but he kept thinking, if I stop and ask for directions

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and admit that I'm lost, because nothing looks

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familiar to me, they'll take my driver's license

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away. There will be a bad repercussion for what

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I've done. So he didn't. He just kept driving,

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thinking something will eventually start looking

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familiar. But he didn't recognize that he was

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two states away when they finally found him.

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And the challenge there is when they feel deep

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down that there is something wrong, that loss

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of independence is a very real fear. And it's

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compounded if you have someone who doesn't have

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a support system, who doesn't have that network

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in place. So one of the best things that you

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can do is approach it at an angle of safety.

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Okay. Reassure them, hey, mom, I've been noticing

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some things that concern me, but I just want

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to make sure you're safe, okay? You're not doing

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anything wrong. I just want to make sure that

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you're safe. So can we maybe just get it checked

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out? It's probably nothing. It's probably nothing,

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but I'd feel better if we knew. And, you know,

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depending on your relationship with that relative,

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feel, sort of, because of my experience and because

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of the experience my cousin had with my uncle,

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his dad. It might be easier when women are compassionate

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and have a close relationship with that mom or

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dad or parent. Us guys don't have that. Men don't

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like to express those emotions, express those

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feelings, to go compassionately saying, Gee,

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I know that we might be having some little...

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We're not going to couch it like that. A guy's

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going to walk up and say, Hey, Dad, you better

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give me car keys. You're having a problem. And

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it won't go well, let me tell you. It will not

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go well. That is a wonderful start to a disaster.

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Because we're not all social workers. We're not

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all compassionate. And we're not all that close

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to that relative, but we want... to be concerned

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for their safety. Right. That relationship may

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have degraded because of the memory issues. We

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don't know. The important thing is to approach

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it from the angle of safety. Reassure them that

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that is your top priority, that there is no goal

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of taking anything away from them. You just want

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to make sure they're safe. Reassure them that,

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hey, if there is something going on, They have

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medications for that now. Absolutely. And the

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sooner it's caught, the better. Dangle that carrot

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of hope. And you know, there's a very popular,

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very popular dramatic series that we watch frequently

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that dealt with this same issue themselves. And

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in the final moments of it, the grandfather that

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they were trying to talk the car keys away from

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admitted that he couldn't give them to him. he

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could not give up those car keys because he'd

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already given the car and the car keys to his

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daughter -in -law who had their car was damaged

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and they needed a new car he'd already given

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it away because he said he ran into a portion

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of the garage backing it out to give it to them.

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So driving is another area where red flags, I

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mean, if you have someone who's got a lot of,

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you know, minor fender benders bumping into things,

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but also if they've taken the same route to the

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same place every day for the last 20 years and

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now all of a sudden that 15 -minute drive is

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taking them 30, it's not because of road construction.

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Even though they may claim that. Or taking 45

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or an hour. Or perhaps you see them slowly drive

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past your house, but they never stop. Yeah. And

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they call you 45 minutes later saying that they

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didn't feel that well, had a little headache,

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and just decided not to come over that day. Never

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knowing that you watched them drive past. These

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are huge red flags. Huge red flags. And I'm speaking

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from experience. We had that happen. Yep. So...

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Believe me, it's a tough, tough conversation.

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We truly applaud that network that wrote that

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dramatic series and included that very serious

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issue into its script. Because it's a hard conversation

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to have. It is. No one wants to diminish their

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freedom. No one wants to have car keys taken.

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And the funny thing is, is as difficult as that

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conversation was, it was held with someone who

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still had 100 % use of their mental faculties.

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And there's the point. They had just diminished

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in their, I guess, physical. uh movement a tiny

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bit vision maybe maybe vision maybe hearing maybe

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just spatial relationship but they didn't have

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the altered but they didn't have the altered

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exactly the memory issues so you combine that

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into everything else and you have the potential

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for a silver alert. Leave some comments at the

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bottom of the screen. Leave your comments, your

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questions, because I know we've all experienced

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this. It's a tough thing. It's a tough conversation

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to have. And we certainly want to share that

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with you. and give you an opportunity to weigh

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in we'll talk about this again sometimes and

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perhaps bring in some folks who may deal with

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memory issues on a very regular basis yeah and

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you know i'd be interested in hearing if anybody

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out there has encountered this and they've successfully

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handled it with their loved one Write to us.

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Tell us how you did it so that we can share that

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with others that might help them too. Exactly.

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Exactly. Of course, it's all a very highly personal

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on your specific situational needs. And it's

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