1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,840 Welcome to the Lightkeepers podcast. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:04,840 I'm Clayton Vandiver, your lightkeeper, 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,000 with a show dedicated to everyone 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,520 who wants to get the most quality out of life 5 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:10,800 that they can. 6 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,160 My co-host, as always, Charlene, 7 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,760 our very own TAME licensed clinical social worker, 8 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,280 certified in the state of Florida. 9 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,800 We invite you to join the conversation this week, 10 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:26,040 which is about professional versus amateur support. 11 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:27,600 Just who is that person 12 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,720 and what qualifies them to help me? 13 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,760 And so much more on this edition 14 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,080 of the Lightkeepers podcast. 15 00:00:36,080 --> 00:01:04,640 MUSIC 16 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,880 Before we start, I'd like to invite you 17 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,320 to please leave your questions or comments below. 18 00:01:09,320 --> 00:01:11,240 We always love to hear from you. 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,320 Questions this week will be answered during our next show 20 00:01:14,320 --> 00:01:16,960 that appears online every Wednesday evening 21 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:19,120 at 7 p.m. Eastern. 22 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,280 The Lightkeepers podcast is an exclusive production 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,680 of a Guiding Light, Inc. 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,240 We'll tell you more about a guiding light 25 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:27,840 at the end of the podcast, 26 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,120 but we don't have much time, 27 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,680 so let's get right into this week's conversation. 28 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:37,480 And what does it mean to the general public 29 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,120 when you say, who is this person? 30 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,120 Are they professional? 31 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:42,960 Are they amateur? 32 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:44,800 How do you know? 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,320 So that's a very good question. 34 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:48,680 So the best way to know if you're working 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,800 with a professional is to ask them 36 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,880 what their qualifications are 37 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,120 and find out if they're licensed. 38 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,000 If they are licensed, there's going to be a record of that 39 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,360 that can be found online. 40 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,240 Like, for example, I'm licensed 41 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,520 through the State of Florida Department of Health. 42 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,480 So if you go online and do a search 43 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:10,480 for State of Florida LCSW license lookup, 44 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,640 it'll take you to a website 45 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:14,360 where just by typing in someone's name, 46 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,880 you can verify that they have a license. 47 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,440 Okay, that's a good idea. 48 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,640 Well, how does the general public find that information? 49 00:02:22,640 --> 00:02:24,880 You just type a search? 50 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,680 You just do a search online for whatever state you're in, 51 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,200 whatever their profession is, and license lookup, 52 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,640 and it'll take you to a website 53 00:02:33,640 --> 00:02:34,960 where you can put in their name 54 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,800 and find out whether or not they are a licensed individual. 55 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,000 Okay, and you can find information 56 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,000 about both medical and counselor personnel? 57 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,000 Correct, correct, because technically as a counselor, 58 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,080 I am a medical professional. 59 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,800 That's why I'm licensed through the Department of Health. 60 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,080 So that's an important distinction. 61 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,000 Even though I'm a counselor, 62 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,640 what I do is considered medical care. 63 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:04,760 Okay, well I've heard some folks say 64 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,080 it's sort of like you're looking for either a professional 65 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,840 and you don't want a witch doctor. 66 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,320 I've heard that term used in the industry. 67 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,960 So what would constitute a witch doctor? 68 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,040 How do you define that one? 69 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:25,040 So for example, if you were injured, 70 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:30,040 injured, would you call up grandma, uncle Bob, 71 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,280 neighbor across the street, 72 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,520 or would you want to call your primary care physician 73 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,160 or maybe go to an urgent care clinic? 74 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,920 An amateur is someone who works 75 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:47,560 based off of their personal experience, a witch doctor. 76 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:48,720 Okay. 77 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,200 When you are in need of support, therapeutic support, 78 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,240 you want someone who has been clinically trained 79 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,040 and they've been through the classwork, 80 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,680 they've been through the testing, 81 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:05,680 and they have been approved to be safe to provide that care. 82 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,640 I say this all the time when people ask me, 83 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,760 hey, I've got a camcorder, I've got a camera on my telephone, 84 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,800 why can't I just shoot my own professional videos? 85 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:22,360 And the people who sell camcorders and cell phones 86 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,840 sort of throw that word professional around a lot 87 00:04:24,840 --> 00:04:28,640 because they think, if we say that, 88 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,440 then we can charge more for it, 89 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,560 or they'll think they can do more than they really can. 90 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,280 But when they make a Hollywood film, 91 00:04:36,280 --> 00:04:38,680 they spend many, many millions of dollars 92 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,520 and they use cameras that cost as much 93 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,680 as some very luxurious cars. 94 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:47,360 And don't you think they use cheaper stuff 95 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,240 if they could get away with it? 96 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:50,680 And if they didn't need it, 97 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,040 don't you think they'd stay out of film school 98 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,400 for anywhere from five to seven years? 99 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,800 Hey, maybe we know something that the average guy 100 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,440 on the street doesn't about making films and movies. 101 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,080 I'm sure it's exactly like that in the medical community. 102 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,040 If I needed to amputate an arm, 103 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,400 I certainly wouldn't grab the first chainsaw I saw. 104 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,600 Well, and it goes a little deeper than that 105 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,240 because there are places online, for example. 106 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,880 There are some wonderful resources online, 107 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,120 especially if you're grieving. 108 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,320 For example, there's one particular website 109 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,360 that in the past has trained volunteers 110 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,400 to provide online bereavement support. 111 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,120 The problem is is grief can be complicated 112 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,920 and not everyone is qualified or should be qualified 113 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,560 to provide grief support 114 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,080 because there's a lot that can be affected. 115 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:44,920 Absolutely. 116 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,760 And someone who is not trained, 117 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:52,400 who doesn't know how to look for potential influences, 118 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,880 maybe a past history of substance abuse 119 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,840 or a personality disorder or a mental health illness 120 00:05:57,840 --> 00:06:00,400 that might complicate that bereavement, 121 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,200 what they're doing is not just unethical, 122 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:05,440 it's not just negligent, 123 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,320 it could be down outright dangerous. 124 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:08,880 I understand. 125 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:13,880 And is it just that they might assess the needs incorrectly, 126 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,720 refer someone to the wrong resource, 127 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,320 perhaps even rope them into a network of pals 128 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,120 that stand to profit? 129 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,200 I know there are some unethical people out there. 130 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,760 How much damage can they really do? 131 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,600 They can do a lot and not even meaning to. 132 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,440 People go into this wanting to provide that support, 133 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,040 that amateur support, 134 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,360 they go into it with the best of intentions. 135 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,920 But you know what they say, 136 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,000 Saint Bernard of Clairvaux said that the road to hell 137 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,080 is paved with good intentions. 138 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,400 And so they mean well, they really do. 139 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:54,800 They really do. 140 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,080 But that's not always the best course of action. 141 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,680 They can cause a lot of harm emotionally, mentally 142 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,560 and can make an already difficult time 143 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,920 a lot more difficult and distressing. 144 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,400 How does the person listening and watching 145 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,440 know where to turn for information about 146 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,120 who might be a professional and who might be a witch doctor? 147 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,520 Well, and that's again where you have to be very careful. 148 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,480 There are a lot of resources available online, 149 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,160 resources available to support you 150 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,000 through end of life process. 151 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,080 There are people out there that call themselves death doulas 152 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,960 that are out there to provide a wonderful support service, 153 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,640 a wonderful needed service 154 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,480 where they're supporting people who have been diagnosed 155 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,240 with a terminal illness or their family 156 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,040 as they go through this time. 157 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,840 But the problem is is these people 158 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,280 are not being properly vetted. 159 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:57,280 There's no specific training for them. 160 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,920 And so a lot of these people are amateurs 161 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:03,960 that have come into the field through personal experience 162 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,920 that want to be able to help others. 163 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:11,560 And if you're someone who is like that, 164 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,960 that wants to provide that support, 165 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,120 I applaud that and I encourage you to volunteer 166 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,560 with your local hospices or hospitals. 167 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,800 That's a wonderful outlet for you. 168 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,640 But if this is something that you want to do 169 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,840 for a living full time, go to school, 170 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,120 get trained how to do it. 171 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,760 That way you're not putting others at risk of injury, 172 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,720 mental or physical, and you're not putting yourself 173 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,400 in danger of litigation because in some states, 174 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,000 in some states it's actually illegal 175 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,720 to provide therapeutic support without a license. 176 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,880 Very, very good point. 177 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,680 And we were talking before the show a little bit 178 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:54,720 about sometimes a psychiatrist 179 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,560 is different than a psychologist 180 00:08:56,560 --> 00:08:59,120 and one does one thing, one does another thing. 181 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,640 Can you share a little bit about that? 182 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:01,480 Absolutely. 183 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:02,800 It ties into what you were just saying. 184 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,600 And a lot of people don't know the difference. 185 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:09,240 A psychiatrist is a doctor who is trained 186 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,520 on how to prescribe medication 187 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,800 to treat mental health issues. 188 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,640 Okay, a medical professional. 189 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:16,960 Exactly. 190 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:17,800 Sort of a, yeah. 191 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,360 Someone who focuses on the medication side of things. 192 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,280 Right, okay. Like a pharmacist. 193 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,680 Gotcha. Versus a therapist, 194 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:29,120 a psychologist or a licensed clinical social worker 195 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,560 or a licensed mental health counselor. 196 00:09:31,560 --> 00:09:34,080 These are people who cannot prescribe medication 197 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:38,800 because they're not trained in the medication side of it, 198 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,320 but they are trained in providing that therapeutic support, 199 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,440 that counseling, which a psychiatrist is not. 200 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,760 So it would be unethical if you were to be 201 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,120 prescribing medications because that's not something 202 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,680 you've been educated to do. 203 00:09:53,680 --> 00:09:54,520 That's not something you're able to do. 204 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,360 Not just unethical, but highly illegal. 205 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,480 And that's why a common phrase that you'll hear 206 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,480 in the clinical world is stay in your lane. 207 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,040 And what that means is don't do something 208 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,960 that you're not trained and licensed to do. 209 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,200 As a licensed clinical social worker, 210 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:17,200 I would not even fathom giving someone medical direction. 211 00:10:18,680 --> 00:10:21,640 I may give them medical advice in terms of, 212 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,200 hey, ask your doctor about dot dot dot, 213 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,760 but I would never say this is your diagnosis, 214 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,160 this is what you need to do because I'm not trained. 215 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,760 And that's something we do right here. 216 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:36,760 We say every week, this is a conversation about conditions 217 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,720 and health and situations that you might face, 218 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:45,120 and definitely seek the advice of your own medical personnel, 219 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,520 your own personal counselor, your own personal advisor, 220 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,000 who knows your unique needs and situation 221 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,320 and can best advise what's best for you. 222 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,240 Because this is just a conversation 223 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,080 to sort of stimulate the possibilities 224 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,960 and not in any way to give you advice 225 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,280 that you should follow, 226 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,080 except in seeking professional help 227 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,680 and asking that personal counselor 228 00:11:09,680 --> 00:11:11,280 that knows your situation, 229 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,480 hey, do you think this might apply to me 230 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:15,960 or do you think this might help me? 231 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,760 Or what could I do better? 232 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,380 It's just like in my line of work, 233 00:11:21,380 --> 00:11:24,720 if you're wanting to make a little home movie, 234 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,640 you might seek the professional guidance 235 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,760 of someone who went to film school 236 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,240 and used their advice, their best practices, 237 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,440 because they're certainly gonna know more about it 238 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,100 than the guy that just got his first cell phone and said, 239 00:11:37,100 --> 00:11:40,560 oh, video, click, hey, look, it makes pictures. 240 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:44,600 And there's a lot of areas that this overlaps onto 241 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:45,680 that people don't realize. 242 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:47,600 I'm gonna give you a wonderful example of that, 243 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,280 something that is a little pet peeve of mine. 244 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,160 When someone creates advanced directives, 245 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:56,860 which we talk about a lot here on the show 246 00:11:56,860 --> 00:11:58,760 because they're so important, 247 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,080 which is basically advanced directives 248 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,360 are the documents that you put into place 249 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,160 to direct what type of medical treatment you would want 250 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,240 if you were to become seriously ill 251 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,360 and not able to make your own medical decisions. 252 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,140 So think living will, medical power of attorney. 253 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,120 People go to attorneys to have these done all the time. 254 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,260 And that's great, attorneys know the law. 255 00:12:21,260 --> 00:12:22,940 But they don't know medicine. 256 00:12:22,940 --> 00:12:25,040 And they don't know those medical procedures. 257 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,720 And so you have someone with legal documents that say, 258 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,280 if I become seriously ill, 259 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,400 I do not want any extensive measures put into place 260 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:35,500 to keep me alive. 261 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,400 What defines extensive? 262 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:40,640 Some people say- 263 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:41,900 They're not necessarily gonna know 264 00:12:41,900 --> 00:12:42,840 what an extensive measure is. 265 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,520 Exactly, and some people say, 266 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,680 well, I don't want tubes or machines. 267 00:12:46,680 --> 00:12:51,680 Okay, you don't want a tube or a machine to keep you alive. 268 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,040 What if there's an opportunity of recovery? 269 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,920 What if you only need that machine temporarily? 270 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,880 What if the doctor doesn't know 271 00:13:00,900 --> 00:13:02,480 if it's temporary or permanent? 272 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,500 Is your loved one gonna know what to do? 273 00:13:04,500 --> 00:13:05,880 They're gonna look at the paper and say, 274 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,540 well, he said he didn't want anything extensive done, 275 00:13:08,540 --> 00:13:10,220 so sorry. 276 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,700 That's a very, very good point. 277 00:13:13,700 --> 00:13:16,040 And it also gives us an opportunity 278 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,340 when you're wondering who to turn to and who to look to, 279 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,900 you know that the professionals at a guiding light 280 00:13:23,900 --> 00:13:26,160 are there to train professionals 281 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,840 in doing many of the things that we're talking about. 282 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:29,680 Exactly. 283 00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:33,300 And so if you see someone who has been vetted 284 00:13:33,300 --> 00:13:36,400 and who has the guiding light symbol 285 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,000 that we have on our coffee cups, 286 00:13:39,660 --> 00:13:41,680 you know that they are going to be someone 287 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:44,000 that is not operating like a witch doctor. 288 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,280 They actually not only know what they're talking about, 289 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,800 they can refer you to other professionals 290 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,160 that they are confident in their capabilities. 291 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:53,000 Absolutely. 292 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,440 So that's the sort of thing that we try to do here 293 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,020 is connect people to resources 294 00:13:58,020 --> 00:14:00,560 that can give them the best service in their lives. 295 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:01,960 Knowledge is power. 296 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:02,960 Knowledge is power. 297 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,300 Quality of life is the whole purpose of this show 298 00:14:06,300 --> 00:14:07,960 and our conversations. 299 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,520 Now, we don't have much time, 300 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,800 but this episode leads us to a perfect opportunity 301 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,920 to mention that several listeners 302 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,800 have been asking about us personally and our backgrounds, 303 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,480 you know, what makes us professionals 304 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:22,920 instead of witch doctors. 305 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,640 That sounds like something we might, 306 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,640 we got into that just a little touch today. 307 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,880 You got a feeling for, hey, I'm really a video guy 308 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,840 and you know, a broadcaster, 309 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,960 and this is really a medical professional, 310 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,400 mental health specialist. 311 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:38,920 But it sounds like something we might spend 312 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,560 a little bit more time with 313 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,480 and in helping our viewers and listeners understand 314 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,320 who we are and what our interests are and our backgrounds. 315 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,480 Maybe we could do an entire show about that. 316 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:52,120 Yeah. 317 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:53,280 Let's dedicate next week to that. 318 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:54,360 How about that? 319 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:55,760 We can do that. 320 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,680 Well, it's always good to be willing to talk 321 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,600 about quality of life because every single one of us 322 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,720 will face some of these issues someday, 323 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:08,440 either not prepared at all or very well prepared indeed. 324 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,520 From joining us here on the Lightkeepers podcast 325 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,440 each and every Wednesday evening at 7 p.m. Eastern. 326 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,040 The Lightkeepers podcast is an exclusive production 327 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,000 of Animation Studios and is brought to you 328 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:26,960 by a Guiding Light, a 501c3 nonprofit organization 329 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,200 dedicated to education and information 330 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,600 that allows informed preparation 331 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,120 for living the very best life possible. 332 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,040 The mission of a Guiding Light is to provide education 333 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,360 for professionals and information for everyone else 334 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,920 about life planning, available guidance and counseling 335 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,920 that helps individuals and their family navigate options 336 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,360 that improve the quality of their remaining days. 337 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,320 The organization is committed to training professionals 338 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,720 through scholarship grants when needed 339 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,400 who will help you find the best information 340 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,760 and options to meet your planning needs 341 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,240 that are available in your area 342 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,640 so you can be aware of your choices. 343 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,160 Confident in your decisions and at peace 344 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,160 that you've made the very best decisions 345 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,480 to live life on your own terms. 346 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,200 Visit the website at aguidinglight.org 347 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,400 or make a tax deductible contribution 348 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,240 that helps others find the information 349 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,920 and resources they need. 350 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,480 You can send your check to the address 351 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,880 that's right below me right now. 352 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,480 We're so grateful for your support 353 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,840 and sincerely hope you'll join the conversation 354 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,040 in coming weeks. 355 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,760 Add your questions and comments below. 356 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaking of that, hit the like and subscribe buttons. 357 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:39,720 It is free. 358 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,440 And turn on that notify bell 359 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,600 so you'll catch every single episode. 360 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,400 I'm Clayton Vandiver, your light keeper. 361 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,040 We'll see you next time. 362 00:16:49,040 --> 00:17:08,560 locations, best practices, 363 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:14,640 locations, 200 drafts