Hey, this is Elizabeth. This is Keisha Hi, this
is Leslie Sullivan and welcome to the mustard
seed podcast Well, welcome back around the table
we are so glad that you guys are back here joining
us and having these conversations with us and
digging in to the word of God with us and listening
to our Our interpretations, you know are the
way we saw it and way God's telling us and hopefully
You guys see it too. And hopefully you guys are
talking back to us when you don't Let us have
it But we are continuing on with Our man Peter
here we went through first Peter You know already
and so now we're just gonna keep moving on and
we're gonna go through second Peter We're not
really gonna give you too much history because
again, we just went through first Peter and this
is gonna be in about 6880 so this is about four
years after first Peter was written, you know
right before his death, but This is likely This
part is likely either after a rate around the
time that of the burning of Rome Yeah Because
that's really when everything amped up. So, you
know, this is obviously before Peter had passed
but not He that was the year he passed. So the
year that he was he was murdered. I say murdered
murdered both A little bit of everything in there.
Yep. It's true tortured Above all we know etc,
etc, etc, right? Yeah But again, so he is in,
he's written to, not in, I guess, yeah, he's
written to Asia Minor, to modern -day Turkey,
Italy, Turkey area. So chapter one says. This
letter is from Simon Peter, a slave and apostle
to Jesus Christ. I am writing you to who who
share the same precious faith we have. This faith
was given to you because of the justice and fairness
of Jesus Christ our God and Savior. May God give
you more and more grace and peace as you grow
in your knowledge of God and Jesus our Lord.
By his divine power God has given us everything
we need for a living daily living a godly life
sorry we have received all of this by coming
to know him the one who called us to himself
by means of his marvelous glory and excellence
and because of his because of his glory and excellence
he has given us great and precious promises These
are the promises that enable you to share his
divine nature and escape the world's corruption
caused by human desires. In this view of all
of this, make every effort to respond to God's
promises, supplement your life with generous
provision of moral excellence, and and moral
excellence with knowledge and knowledge with
self -control and self -control with patience,
endurance and patience, endurance with godliness
and godliness with brotherly affection and brotherly
affection with love for everyone. The more you
grow like this, the more productive and useful
you will be in your knowledge of the Lord Jesus
Christ. But those who fail to develop in this
way are short -sighted or blind, forgetting that
they have been cleansed from their old sins.
So dear brothers and sisters, work hard and prove
that you are really among these God has called
and chosen. Do these things and you will never
fall away. Then God will give you a grand entrance
into the eternal kingdom of our Lord. Savior
Jesus Christ. Therefore I will always remind
you about these things even though you already
know them and are standing firm in the truth
you have been taught. And it is only right that
I should keep on reminding you that as long as
I live for the Lord Jesus Christ to show me that
I must soon leave this earthly life. So I will
work hard to make sure you always remember these
things after I'm gone. We are not making up clever
stories when we told you about the powerful coming
of our Lord Jesus Christ We saw his majestic
splendor with our own eyes When we received the
honor and glory from God the Father the voice
of the majestic glory said to him. This is my
dearly beloved Son who brings me joy. We ourselves
heard the voice from heaven when we were with
him on the holy mountain Because of that experience
we have been we have even greater confidence
in the message proclaimed by the prophets that
you must pay attention to when they wrote for
their words are like lamps shining in dark places
until the day dawns and Christ the morning star
shines in your hearts above all you must realize
that no prophecy in the scripture ever came from
the prophets own understanding or from human
initiative no the prophets were moved by the
Holy Spirit and they spoke from God So I would
say 100 % he knew his time was coming because
he is making sure that he is laying it out. Oh,
yeah You know, I think we mentioned it last time
at Peter doesn't he doesn't have flowery words.
He gets straight to the point Well, and again
it goes back to I think how we talked at the
end of the last one The first book of Peter he
he knows what's about to happen in with rome
um and and also jesus had prepared them to suffer
and be ready for persecution i mean look what
happened to jesus so yeah so i think there's
also that part um in some of the warnings and
and you know and the prayers and yeah yeah they
knew what they were facing um yeah Following
Jesus they had you know, this is what? 30 some
years after um, Christ's crucifixion they've
seen their brothers their friends their loved
ones already Be martyred and and die for the
cause, you know, they're they're not going to
Hey, he's not gonna short -circuit. He's he's
laying it out there and Peter knew that because
God told Jesus told him that he was going to
die at an old age Right like in an older age
for me your people are going to take you where
you don't want to go At an older age so Peter
knew his time was running out because he's no
longer a young man Yeah, you know he's seasoned.
He's been around You know and he again like you
said he's seen his friends his brother. He's
seen You know his loved ones Die in the name
of Jesus or for the name of Jesus, right? Yeah,
so he knew what was coming And he also like and
he knew his time was running now because he's
not he wasn't young Mm -hmm not saying he was
ancient. I'm just saying he knew that you know,
and I heard it that That's why you know when
he was in prison and they were saying he's gonna
die in the morning He slept because he knew he
was Jesus told me he's gonna die as an old man
now. He's getting it He knows he's here Can you
imagine knowing No, I mean like No, I mean in
the aspect of that, you know, Jesus had told
them to be ready to suffer, right? And and the
atmosphere around them is so tumultuous and traumatic
and ready to explode at any moment, right? It's
that feeling where you're like, I know. I don't
know the day. I don't know the time. I'm not
saying that kind of knowledge. I'm saying that
this is how it's going to happen. I don't know
if I'm being clear on that, but the disciples
knew. They knew. They knew exactly. They knew.
That's scary. I love, though, you know, he's
talking about make every effort to respond to
God's promise, supplement your faith with generous
provision of moral excellence, you know, and
he's just he goes down the list here and, you
know, verses five through seven. And it's that
go and tell you're going to you're going to go
out, you're going to tell, but you're also going
to show. Yeah. Right. It's like. And it's me
saying it first. It's like, James. It's that
faith without works is dead. So your faith is
what it is, but so you're, but you need to, you
can go out, but you can tell people all you want,
but you need to show it. You know, you need to
have these moral excellence and self -control
and patience and godliness and brotherly affection
and a love for everyone. Again, I want to know
how is it that I feel like again we touch on
this But yet we get so we don't get it but people
Forget this part how how is it not as clear to
others as it is to me or is it again am I Misinterpreting
the Bible that we're supposed to love everybody
Am I do I have the wrong version should I have
a different? You know, I don't know. I think
it's the we don't want to work at it And the
world you're talking about involves work. That's
true. You know, that's exactly. And you know,
as he's writing those verses, you know, verse
five through seven, you know, it's also a progression,
you know, because we're supposed to work at it.
And as we work, we grow deeper and deeper and
deeper. You know, it's not a it's it's not a
You know still waters it's it's a constant. Mm
-hmm Yeah, dick Yeah, well It's like one of those
can you imagine going through life without Your
your parents or your spouse or you know those
key people in your world that helped you To keep
growing and keep going while you're being stretched
to do things you didn't think you were supposed
to be doing. And I can't imagine doing that without,
I mean, obviously my father passed a few years
ago, so it's hard doing it without him, but I
also have all these wonderful memories of watching
him do it that encouraged me to do it even in
the midst of uncertainty or disaster or hard
people to work with or hard people to be around,
you know, all the things. But because I've had
that example of my dad, I have my current example
with my mom, I have, you know, I have a husband,
I've got great friends, you all included. I've
got people who... But he puts us with the cloud
of witnesses that we're supposed to have around
us to do the work he's also set before us to
do. And that's why we have to keep growing and
striving and figuring it out day by day. The
best news is we don't have to do it alone. I
also like that he's not sharing a full testimony
here. So he's not following in full Paul's footsteps
or anything. But he's saying, we saw Jesus. We're
here because we saw it. We were a part of it.
And we want to make sure that you understand
that it's valid. It was real. We're not making
this up for fun. You know if not like people
aren't gonna die For fun for a for a joke. I
know for something they made up. Yeah you know
that that what is that the Babylon be right is
that that They you know they put out a video
again They don't know we're talking about this.
This is not only because I saw it. Yeah, we're
not looking for endorsements. This is just a
video that I saw, you know, and it had the had
the disciples. You know, altogether around the
bonfire after Jesus passed, you know, and they're
all kind of talking like, what do you do now?
Like, what's going to go on? And then one of
them and I'm, you know, I would assume at this
point because of how we know that would be Peter,
right, saying, OK, OK, this is what we're going
to do. You know, we're going to. we're gonna
go in and we're gonna take the Lord's body and
we're gonna hide him and then we're gonna tell
everybody he rose again. And they're like, yeah,
that's awesome. Why are we gonna do this? So
we can die. So we can be persecuted. Like, OK,
well, when do we get the glory? We don't work.
The whole goal is just so that way we can, you
know, and I mean, I'm killing it because the
video is hilarious because it's true. Yeah. Why
would they have stuck to it? Why would they have
suffered the way that they did? Everybody but
John, you know? Yeah. Why? Why would they have
done that? Yeah, when I question I know it's
true and I question my own self like would I
have been able to do it? Like even now if it
comes to it, am I gonna be able to stand there?
Yeah, you know in a lineup in in die. Yeah, I
mean I'd like to believe that I have that faith
my faith is strong enough to understand that
whatever I go through here is nothing in comparison
to the glory that I'm gonna be a part of. So
any suffering I do there, it was gonna be just
erased up there. But to have, why? Why would
they have done that and died in the ways that
they did and been okay to die in that way? You
know, how can you not believe that's true? Yeah,
I mean like we've already said, you know, this
is this has been over 30 years Probably closer
to 40 years since Jesus was crucified. Jesus
was crucified John the Baptist was beheaded Stephen
was stoned to death, you know James was beheaded.
I mean They've seen all of this and he's still
straight up Preaching it. He's like it's worth
it. Your suffering is worth it. Yeah. Yeah Because
they knew a little something about suffering
mm -hmm He did and you know, I think again, I
think that's He understands the hens coming.
So let me just explain it. Let me let me lay
this out Again, you know, I don't know if he
was the last one You know to go. I don't know
if he was I don't know where he is in the succession
I don't know how that were I know obviously john
is alas because john died naturally. Yeah, but
You know He's trying to make sure that the He's
done all he can to make sure that the church
continues on after his death Because he knows
they're coming. He knows persecution is coming
And it's going to be just as hard and just as
strong you know So he's trying to make sure that
you guys get prepared because this is real like
like Everything the Lord said everything their
prophet said that's real. This isn't just a story
This isn't just something you learned in school
anymore. This is We are living in what they talked
about Yeah And then he just wants to make sure
everyone knows that the prophecy that they've
seen come true the prophecies it's yet to become
true you know all this comes from the holy spirit
because i think um i think in some peter one
he mentions you know the um the prophets and
they didn't even understand exactly what was
going to manifest yeah we'll move on to chapter
two but false prophets also arose among the people
just as they will be false teachers among you
who will secretly bring into indestructive hearsay
even denying that the master who brought them
bring upon themselves swift destructions and
many will follow their sensuality and because
of them the way of truth with blasphemy and in
their greed they will explore you with false
words. Their condemnation from long ago is not
at all, and their destruction is not asleep.
For if God did not spare angels when they sinned,
but cast them into hell and committed them to
the chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until
the judgment, if He did not spare the ancient
world, but preserved Noah, a herald of righteousness,
with seven others, when He brought a flood upon
the world of the ungodly. If by turning the cities
of Sodom and Gomorrah to the ashes he condemned
them to extinction, making them an example of
what is going to happen to the ungodly, and if
he rescued righteous lot, gently distressed by
the central conduct of the wicked, for as the
righteous man lived among them, the day after
day he was tormented by his righteous soul over
their lawless deeds that he saw and heard. Then
the Lord Knows who to rescue the godly from the
trials and to keep the unrighteous under punishment
into the day of the judgment And especially those
who indulge and the less of defiling passions
and despise authority Bode and willful they do
not tremble as they blast of me the glorious
one whereas angels, though greater in might and
power, do not pronounce a blasphemous judgment
against them before the Lord. But these, like
irrational animals, creatures of instinct born
to be caught and destroyed, blaspheming about
the matters of which they are ignorant, will
also be destroyed in their destruction, suffering
wrong as the wage of their wrongdoing. They count
in pleasure to reveal in the daytime. They are
blots and blemishes, Revealing in their deception,
While they feast with you. They have eyes full
of adultery, And sedable for sin, They entice
and steady sows, They have hearts trained in
greed, And curse children. Forsaking the right
way, They are going astray. They have followed
the way of Balam And the son of Beor, Who love
gain from wrongdoing. but was rebuked for his
own transgression. A speechless donkey spoke
in a human voice and restrained the prophet madness.
These are waterless springs and mist driven by
a storm. For them the gloom of utter darkness
has been reserved. For speaking loud boasts of
folly they entice by sensual passion of the flesh
those who are barely escaping from those who
live in error. They promise them freedom if they
themselves are slaves of corruption for whatever
overcomes a person to that he is enslaved for
it after they have escaped the defilement. In
the world through the knowledge of our Lord and
Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled
in them and overcome. The last state has become
worse for them than the first. For it would have
been better for them to have known the way of
righteousness than after knowing it turned back
from the holy commandments delivered to them.
What the true Proverbs say has happened to them.
The dog returns to his own vomit and the sow
after washing herself returns to wallow in the
myrrh. I find it interesting that They still
had that they had to worry about false teachers
being that close to when Christ was actually
on. Yeah, that quick. And you know, all of a
sudden you have people saying, no, no, no, no,
no, that's not really what he meant. This is
what it is. And I'm like, I understand now we've
had a couple thousand years in between us and
them. Right. But I also think it is people trying
to show that they were either closer to him.
or that they still knew more than him because
maybe he wasn't truly that prophet or that well
he didn't talk to you about this and it says
this and there and here and then I don't know
it's kind of like today some people saying well
that's great that you believe that that translation
but this is the only right translation that matters
well no like that's why I like reading different
translations of the Bible it's not because any
of them are actually a hundred percent accurate
it's because the more studying I do the closer
I feel I do get to understanding what he's trying
to show me because submit versus subject versus
this you know like whatever that word is um every
different version of it helps me to go oh I didn't
think about it that way or oh I should have thought
about it that way or whatever so I think that's
what Teachers are going to live forever until
we're in heaven And I think it's also the devil's
way of trying to destroy the church. Yes. Yeah
set up those faults Yeah false teachers false
prophets and and try to Pull people from the
truth. Yeah it's the they scoff at things they
don't understand or they don't they have to they
have to make sure that they're watching everybody
else make sense you know don't you commit that
sin and they're watching everybody else but they're
not they're not looking back at themselves and
what they're doing you know in their journey
i do like that he in my in the nlt version it
says these people are as useless as dried up
springs they are doomed to blackest darkness
i want to know i mean like blackest darkness
is like i guess way out in the middle of the
woods Or there's no, there's very much no light.
Right? Like you're not even seeing a star. Yeah.
Crazy. Or maybe in a deep, deep cave. There you
go. Like in that 21 it said it would be better
if they had never known the way to righteousness
Then to know it and then reject the command they
were given to live a holy life Yeah It's that
whole Part, you know, like the teachers will
be judged harder than Most because you're leading.
So where are you leading people to? yeah and
so you're having these false teachers that know
the way the truth and the life but are taking
people down a different path one that might look
like the way truth and life but isn't yeah it's
leading them straight into hell and it's the
selfish path right like there's lots of uh lots
of really wonderful evangelists in our world
today right and some of them i have to go Did
you just say that yes Did you just hit them now?
I'm not perfect. I know I made mistakes when
I tried to speak about something before but did
you just say that like you have this moment of
like don't I don't think you understand What
you're saying or how it's coming off as well.
It's it's also that delivery moment like again
Jesus was like, hey, did you know or and like
he was he was forceful a few times yes he had
flipping tables a little bit of that stuff right
but for the most part he sat and had a conversation
with you because it's what was gonna stick the
yelling at me or the telling me that i'm this
crazy sinful being yes you're not lying but when
you yell at me i'm not not as apt to listen and
then apply what you're saying to me yeah exactly
So I just think that's also part of what all
this is, because all those false prophets are
just yelling. They're just saying, you're listening
to us. We know more than him. Yeah. I almost
want to say maybe they're false teachers, too.
We're a little more like our prosperity gospel
preachers here now, the ones that are like, oh,
you don't really need to do that. Or if you follow
Christ, you're going to have all of this, this,
and this. But first, you've got to give a little
bit of this. And he doesn't want you to suffer.
He wants you to live your life and live your
best life. Live your best life. And he does,
but he wants you to live your best life. Him.
Yeah. You know, but again, that doesn't mean
you're not going to suffer again. I said it before
and we'll say it again. You know, Mary did not
have a life full of, you know, sunshine and rainbows.
Yeah. I mean, God called her as a 13, 14 year
old girl to be the mother of Christ. Yeah. You
know, not any pressure, anything unmarried, unmarried
in her. town of where you know her little itty
bitty there she had issues we didn't get she
didn't have issues that's the wrong but she she
was put in a situation which could have gotten
her stoned yeah you know yeah but she trusted
yeah you know and just because you trust in God
does not mean that you're gonna be free yeah
trials and suffering. And again, like we talked
about in, you know, in the in the episodes with
with First Peter, it's it's you have to be joyous
because you're suffering on his behalf. Yeah.
People are recognizing the fact that you are
speaking truth and they want to put a bushel
over your light. Right. Yeah. Let's go back to
the old Sunday school song under a bushel. And
you know, it's like you're saying, you know,
he mentions, and not just Peter, you know, Paul,
he tells you to endure the long race. You know,
when you come to Christ, it's not all, you know,
rainbows and sunshines. It's suffering, you know,
and it's being set apart. It's being hated by
the world, but... It's not being hated because
how you respond to something is being hated because
They see Christ in you You know, that's another
thing that Doug will always talk that he has
mentioned at least I say always like he says
this every Sunday But he doesn't but he's mentioned
it a few times in the last five years of us going
to the church and he's He said, I love seeing
people on fire for God, but it scares me because
I know the minute they're on fire for God, that
they're coming. An attack is coming. Yeah. He
goes, I know that it's going to happen and they're
going to get so much pushback. And he just prays
that that fire doesn't get put out. It doesn't
go out. Yeah. Yeah. And again, sometimes our
biggest testimony is when we're in. those trials
when they're in that suffering and just like
you know you had mentioned you know when we were
in first peter about the guy that you heard in
you know in madera beach talk about yes okay
this all happened to me but i still have this
and i still have that and we're you know we're
still this and you know and that's that's the
epitome of what we're supposed to do makes me
thinking about him too it is well with my soul
that's my favorite yeah you know he was he the
i can't tell you the guy who wrote his name but
he wrote it because he had just been through
a horrible tragedy he lost his wife and son i
think all right well his wife was the only one
who survived it was like so many daughters three
or four daughters yeah and but he could still
say it is well with my soul There was a, do you
remember the, uh, uh, Christ the King in Largo,
there was the, this lady who sat in the back,
her name was Adele and she told everyone to call
her the old goat. I don't remember if you remember
her from that church. I probably know her face,
but you would, but anyway, so she sat in the
back. She had her own chair. She didn't sit in
a pew. She sat in a comfy chair in the back in
the middle. But every time you walked up here
and you say, how are you today, Adele? She would
go, it is well with my soul. It didn't matter
if she goes, doesn't matter if I'm in pain or
if I'm good. It's well with my soul. And she
just had the most amazing perspective in the
midst of all the things she was going through,
because she had a lot of physical stuff and all
that kind of stuff, because she was older. But
it was awesome to ask her that question every
Sunday and be reminded, all that matters is it
is well with my soul. Well, now I have a new
goal. Yeah, right? I know, I know. It's awesome.
Oh, it is well. Now I'm going to sing that song.
It is what we say with my soul. OK, that's that's.
That is probably one of my favorite old hymns
right there, like that's the one I can I'll sing
all the time. You know, I would say it probably
really wasn't my favorite until I heard the story
behind it. Well, it talks about and it's. The
one that really that when I really started loving
the song and this probably isn't fair, but it
it's Audrey aside when she sings it but I listened
she's got such a beautiful voice and I She sings
it and it hit me the verse that states, you know
He you know, he took my sin not in part But the
whole. Yeah. But in whole, yeah. And it was nailed
to the cross and I know it no more. And I was
like, that verse, every time I sing it, I have
to compose myself. Yep. Like if I'm on stage
and Travis makes me sing that part. I'm always
like, OK, God, because I can get through it if
I'm singing it myself. Because sometimes he'll
break it up like, OK, I'll have somebody sing
this first, and somebody else sings this first,
and somebody else sings this first. Or sometimes
it's I'm just the lead on the whole song, and
everybody's singing with me in spots. And I'm
like, depending on how you do it, that's one
of the ones that I have to breathe in and out.
And that one in the gratitude song has been getting
me lately. I don't got nothing. I don't have
anything, but what I have is gratitude for who
you are and what you've done. Yeah. And even
Steve's like, I used to not really like that
song. He goes, but then it hit me. That's what
they're saying. I'm the same way. I do not really
like that song, but it really... I've loved that
song from the beginning, but I think it's because
I just... Well, it's words. I look at... I tend
to look at words after I hear a song the first
time because I'll go, oh, that's okay. Then I
listen to the words and I go, okay. Yep. Now
I have to like the song. Yep. I have to like
the song. Well, I think that's my problem is
because I'm a little, I hear the beat more than
I hear the words. And so then it takes a little,
maybe a few singing to drill into my brain. That's
legit. There's a version of it as well by Anthony
Evans. He is Priscilla Shire's brother. And he's
I follow him on Instagram. But anyway, He sings
like there's a couple blips on his Instagram
and I watched a YouTube video singing it as well.
Good night, tears. It's just so powerful the
way he pauses and takes those moments to really
let those words sink in. So, yeah. Beauty, beauty,
beauty, beauty. It's the one that also so And
the Latin, so I know we're off topic a little
bit, but that's what we do. It is what we do.
So again, it's a real conversation. It's the
great I am song like that one. And it seems like
this just sounds like every worship song. I'm
like, I'm like it is. But can you imagine, you
know, and like you're talking about the angels
are singing and you're up there and you're like,
you know, I. Mean there's been plenty of days
that I can't even sing the song because I can't
breathe In my car because I just got tears rolling
down, you know, and it's like You know, nothing
can stand against the great I am and I'm like,
okay. Yep Lord. Yep. You got this. You got everything
you got it all Yeah, you know, I think that's
also why worship is so important because there
are there's that that one doesn't speak to steven
maybe it's not supposed to speak to him that's
fine does not speak to him now maybe it will
in a couple years and he's like i swear we've
seen this song before i'm like we have we've
sang it back i mean we sang it at when we went
to bell shoals and in apollo beach we sang that
there i know we did yeah you know but And there's
so there's other songs that we've saying there
that I still are you know, I love like who you
say I am and Another one that's escaping me like
just the songs but there's a there's a reason
that we worship that way because there's stuff
that You know, everybody will say well the worship
wasn't you've heard people say worship wasn't
good today I didn't feel it. I didn't feel it.
Well, it's worships not for you. Mm -hmm But
there's also a connection that you get to sometimes
when you were in a just one of those really good
Worship song sessions right or if you're in your
car and the Holy Spirit is playing one banger
after another Because he knows what your soul
needs to sing to God And you're just by time
you're done a You're dehydrated But then you're
but you're also you're free, you know because
sometimes there's nothing that you can say on
your own and you need That you need that worshipping
God There's that moment to be in his presence
and just thanking him for what he's done or coming
to him and saying You know, I this is who I am
or you know, if you listen to you know the Hillary
Scott, you know the the be still like I'm just
gonna you and then you have her You know You
just have all these songs that sometimes it's
a, I'm going to come to you Lord and here's,
I don't understand this. This isn't, this isn't
making sense. You know, so if sometimes you singing
that is a worship because you're just, that's
how you feel and you don't know how to say it.
Yep. You can't find the words or the thoughts
or anything. And then that song comes on and
you go, yep, thank you. That's exactly it. What
this moment needed. And then the next song comes
on because it reminds you exactly who he is,
you know, and what he said. he's going to do
and who you are in him. And, you know, it's just
it's some of the worship songs. I understand
why, you know, Miriam was the first, you know,
the first woman pastor, but the first woman music
leader. Right. And she was she led those women
in song and dance. And I get it. You know, because
there's so much. There's there's power in music
you can start to relate to it numbs not I mean,
it's not every day there's days I don't like
I don't you know, it's it's there are days It's
not hitting you you hear the yeah, you know,
it's just in the background. You hear you've
heard these songs a million times You're like,
yep, whatever Yeah, then you have this where
it's like who Lord I needed that. Yeah. Yeah,
I heard it I heard it, you know, you're sitting
there with background music and all of a sudden
you get that tap on your shoulder Listen to this
And I would have to say, too, like some of my
favorite verses in the Bible is talking about
nature, worshipping God. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
Even the rocks cry out. Yeah. Something I think
I feel like I know and it's it's the old age
in me speaking a little bit as we. Some of this
new Christian music isn't Christian music Like
it is right. It's good music, you know, it's
something I don't mind having my kids listen
to Yeah, you know and I'm glad that that's what
they're listening to and compared to other things
It's very clean and they do some of them talk
about God is good all these things and I guess
listen to this This is awesome. But again, I
feel like I'm showing my age here cuz I'm like
you're not singing this in church Yeah, y 'all
are gonna end up in a church where you're singing
some of these songs. So I think we're blessed
to be able to be in a church that kind of mixes
a lot of the old hymns with some of the new stuff,
because we're mainly kind of almost an acoustic
church. You know, we don't have a lot. Yeah.
And I think there's something to be said for
that. But there's also something to be said to
go to a woman's, you know, weekend retreat and
having a full on band up there with a little
bit of worship, like having a little bit of mega
church worship music. Yeah. Yeah. I like that
it's so every Sunday, because obviously I'm the
worship director at my church. I get the very
traditional service at 8 15 in the morning. And
I then have the 11 o 'clock service, which is
the contemporary service. So I really am blessed
week in week out to have the best of both worlds,
in my opinion, where I get to praise him in so
many different ways each week. So when people
say, Leslie, which one is your favorite service?
I'm like, both. Like, that's the cop out answer.
I'm like, no. it's the truth because both both
serve a different purpose and sometimes one week
yeah I might the traditional might speak a little
bit more to me the music that that I picked or
that this happened or that that thing or whatever
but gosh it's just a blessing to praise him in
lots of different ways you know my grandma always
said that that it's the old worship hymns the
old hymns have so much scripture in them That
we don't have now. So I always feel like now
I feel like probably my grandma like those those
new church those new songs. Oh, all right, but
Again, I listen to them do not get me wrong.
I listen to them and I'll have them on the car
and I'm jamming but they're not that put me in
a place of reverence with the Lord songs they're
Good feel good. Like let's get the word of God
out songs. No, they have their place Yeah, they
have their place and you know, but Steve always
says, I hate that people capitalize on old hymns.
You shouldn't get paid for redoing somebody else's
hymns. And I'm like, yes and no. But if it gets
people hearing it, it gets people hearing it.
You're still bringing out the scripture. You're
still bringing it. You're bringing the teachings
of old back out. Because some of the Christian
music today doesn't go. biblically sound yeah
even some of the worship music that's coined
worship music isn't biblically sound so i don't
have as much of an issue with bringing back old
hymns yeah and that's what i really like about
travis too is he really looks at the songs he
chooses to to make it sure it does have it is
biblically sound and sometimes he will say But
we're going to do this song, but I've really
looked at. All right. Should we go to the. The
finale of the second year. Yep. Awesome. All
right. So second Peter three says, this is my
second letter to you, dear friends. And in both
of them, I have tried to stimulate your wholesome
thinking and refresh your memory. I really liked
that. Anyway, sorry. I want you to remember what
the Holy Prophet said long ago and what our Lord
and Savior commanded through your apostles. Most
importantly, I want to remind you that in these
last days, scoffers will come mocking the truth
and following their own desires. They will say
what happened to the promise that Jesus is coming
again from before the time of our ancestors.
Everything has remained the same since the world
was first created. They deliberately forget that
God made the heavens long ago. by the word of
his command and he brought the earth out from
the water and surrounded it with water then he
used the water to destroy the ancient world with
a mighty flood and by the same word the present
heavens and earth have been stored up for fire
they they are being kept for the day of judgment
when ungodly people will be destroyed but you
must not forget this one thing dear friends a
day is like a thousand years to the lord and
a thousand years is like a day The Lord isn't
really being slow about his promise, as some
people think. No, he is being patient for your
sake. He does not want anyone to be destroyed,
but wants everyone to repent. But the day the
Lord will come as unexpectedly as a thief, then
the heavens will pass away with terrible noise,
and the very elements themselves will disappear
in fire, and the earth and everything on it will
be found to deserve judgment. Since everything
around us is going to be destroyed like this,
what holy and godly lives you should live. Looking
forward to the day of God and hurrying it along.
On that day, he will set the heavens on fire
and the elements will melt away in the flames.
But we are looking forward to the new heavens
and the new earth he has promised, a world filled
with God's righteousness. And so dear friends,
while you are waiting for these things to happen,
Make every effort to be found living peaceful
lives that are pure and blameless in his sight.
And remember our Lord's patience gives people
time to be saved. This is what our beloved brother
Paul also wrote to you with the wisdom God gave
him, speaking of these things in all of his letters.
Some of his comments are hard to understand and
those who are ignorant and unstable have twisted
his letters to mean something quite different,
just as they do with other parts of scripture.
and this will end in their destruction. You already
know these things, dear friends, so be on guard.
Then you will not be carried away by the heirs
of these wicked people and lose your own secure
footing. Rather, you must grow in the grace and
knowledge of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
All glory to him, both now and forever. Amen.
That's his drop the mic moment. that, that, that
term in verse one, I've tried to stimulate your
wholesome thinking and refresh your memory. Cause
I'm not the only one who's told you to do this.
I'm not the only one who's told you these things.
I'm not the only one, but I'm going to help you
remember. I'm going to refresh your refresh.
I'm going to refresh. Don't forget this. Yeah.
Don't listen to the other Yeah, when you know
like it's just getting I'm a broken record But
when you know when this was written and how close
it was to his death you understand that you can
almost feel the Yeah, the fervency like the he
needed to get this out and he needs to make sure
his point got crossed Yeah, yeah, like you guys
need to watch it because people are gonna be
They're saying, you know, I know Paul's hard
to understand, which I'm like, yes, sir. You
know, but you know, people are going to twist
his words even worse than you think you don't
understand them, right? They're going to take
those words. They're going to take my words.
They're going to do what they can in order to
try to discredit me, discredit Paul, discredit
everybody. You guys need to stand firm. You need
to remember, you know, right? You need to be
able to run the race. You know a lot of the Everything
I was reading like Gird your loins like you need
to You need to be ready put on that armor of
God you know you need to to be able because Even
Peter knew that's not just You're not getting
it from just The people around you is you're
getting it from unseen forces, too And I really
let you know, like, yeah, there's an incoming
and you need to get with it. Prepared. Well,
and but I love that reminder because it's even
a great reminder to us today when we're like,
okay, Jesus, I'm ready. Could you come now? Yeah.
Like a thousand days is like a day is like a
thousand years to the Lord. Right. And what is
that better is one day in your courts than thousand
elsewhere. I mean, that's a great praise and
worship song because you keep going. Okay, how
bad does it have to get again? And of course,
we're not nearly as bad as the flood when it
was the flood or or or things like that, even
though it feels like that to us because we've
not had that experience other times. Right. But
it's that moment of patience that God's got this
plan. Just be patient and keep telling people
about them because he wants to keep doing the
work. Everybody. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I appreciate
the way it was put in here is like Oh, where
is it? I just lost it. Wait. And so dear friends,
while you are waiting for these things to happen,
make every effort to be found living peaceful
lives that are pure and blameless on a site.
And remember, our Lord's patience gives people
time to be saved. That's such a great reminder
to us. Especially me when I get impatient. It's
against what I love about Peter There's not much
to say because he said it and he said it in a
way that you don't have to decipher it This isn't
well, you know, this could mean this or this
could mean that Peter he laid it out. This is
what this means you know It's It's not hard to
understand you're not reading Isaiah. It's not
like you're reading Jeremiah. It's not like You
don't have a lot of question here. He's like,
this is what we're going to do. And there's going
to be this. There's going to be trials. There's
going to be false teachers. And you know what?
Let's talk about, let's just remember that this
really happened. Jesus is who he says he is.
He did what the things that he said he was going
to do. I was there. I saw it. Don't forget. That's
why I like the... I'm not trying to wrap this
up. I'm trying to say I love that finale verse.
Brother, you must grow in grace and knowledge
of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. You have
to keep growing. You have to keep seeking and
growing. Because it's the only way you're going
to make it through all this stuff. And it's the
only way that I'm going to make it through what
I got to go through now. Because He knew it was
coming. Yeah. Originally, there is not much,
like you said just a few minutes ago, there is
not much else to add. Because especially in this
final chapter, he spells it out. Yes, it feels
like we're waiting a long time. Yes, you're going
to get people yelling at you and telling you
that you don't believe in the story. They don't
believe in the story anymore. Stay steadfast.
Stay steadfast. Throw in your knowledge. It's
the same that we've read before you know just
And I can't remember where it was You know where
it says you know you need to look it up you need
to Do it for yourself like if you if this is
what? You're being told just make sure like just
to kind of back it. Yeah, this is This is you
know They're gonna be twisting these letters.
They're gonna twist my words. They're gonna twist
their words, but you know, and they're going
to look at other parts of scripture and that'll
be their destruction. But that's, you know, you
need to grow in your faith because then you'll
understand what's being told to you is false
and what's being told to you is true. You need
to be able to have that discernment and you're
not going to have it if you're not in it. Yeah.
You know, if you're not paying attention, if
you're not, you know, studying it. And I think
that's what his point coming his point across
this is you guys need to do this because you
need to be aware that there are faults teachers
out here that have no bones about making sure
that you guys go to hell instead of going where
i'm going yeah i'm liking peter more and more
that's about all she wrote i don't feel like
we can add anything to i don't feel like Second
Peter is just a strong bring it home I have to
tell you this To clear my own mind to make sure
that you guys keep it up Because I'm not gonna
be around to be able to show you the way so I
need I need it written down I need to make sure
that this letter gets around right Yeah, you
know and knowing again that right, you know shortly
after here he that's when he was crucified and
you know Watched his wife Get crucified, you
know that knowing that suffering and then Paul
shortly thereafter or right before I don't know
again I don't know succession, but I know it
was right around the same time if it wasn't even
the same day, you know Also be crucified so you
you've just lost to Heads of the church and I
think he knew he knew like okay He's gonna be
gone and that's gonna hurt the movement and then
Paul too. Then that's also gonna hurt the movement.
Mm -hmm Whether or not he knew it was the same
day. He knew it was coming You know and he's
got it he uses this the second Peter this letter
that he wrote as a Battle cry a call to arms,
like, OK, we're not going to be here. You guys
need to be. You guys need to carry this torch.
It's your turn. All right. Well, thanks for sticking
with us through first and second, Peter. I hope
you guys enjoyed it or saw it differently like
we all did. And this is, again, another book
of the Bible that I read a few times, right?
And all of a sudden, it's like, whew. And just
to have that. Everything he's written I would
feel like I highlighted it like I highlighted
James and like I highlighted Titus and like I
highlighted Jude, you know and It they mean that'll
preach, you know Peter First and second Peter
that'll preach all of it. You know, there's and
it just makes me Love him more. Like he's on
my list. Like I want to talk to him before I
talk to Paul I might want to talk to you. I want
to have a conversation. I also want to have a
conversation with Peter's wife. Like, hey, I
want to have a conversation with you. And obviously,
there's lots of women in the Bible that I want
to have a conversation with when I get up there.
But Peter's on that list. He's probably one of
the first men I want to talk to you. Maybe James,
too, because he is my boy. James and Peter. Yeah.
Let's just get a group. Let's have a group chat.
I can't choose. I can't choose. It's one of the
ones that just really And I think I say this
every time you know like every book of the Bible
that we look into everything I find something
that I love And I'm so glad that you know we
were doing this and I know that we're on the
right path and we're doing what we're supposed
to be doing because Stuff wouldn't there's no
reason stuff is speaking to me in the way that
it is that isn't just directly from God So at
least I know that that there's that Yeah, hopefully
we all feel the same So I'm grateful and grateful
that we are all on this journey together and
that we get to sit around here and talk about
God and dig into the Bible and just talk about
our Experiences and go off on our tangents about
hymns You know But again, I also think that's
because We can't add to what Peter said. He laid
it out about false teachers. So he laid it out
about what we need to do. And so our, you know,
if we're gonna do the Great Commission, now our
job is to go and tell. That's what we're doing.
Agreed. Yep. So on that note, we will see everybody
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