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Welcome to the Behind the Shield podcast. As

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always, my name is James Geering, and this week

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it is my absolute honor to welcome brain and

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body optimization specialists and the founders

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of the Bio -Optimization Institute, Jason Griffasi

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and Trip Harlan. Now, I personally got to experience

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several of these modalities along with my wife

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when we went down to their facility in St. Pete.

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And I have to say it was pretty incredible. So

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we discuss a host of topics from their experiences

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as youth athletes, Tripp's TBIs from football,

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his powerful sobriety story, the pursuit of brain

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health, true altitude training, vestibular training,

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optimizing elite athletes. neurodegenerative

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diseases, and so much more. Now, before we get

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to this incredible conversation, as I say every

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said, I introduce to you Jason Grafasi and Trip

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Harlan. Enjoy. Well, Jason and Trip, I want to

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start by saying thank you so much for taking

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the time and coming on the Behind the Shield

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podcast today. Thank you for having us. Yeah,

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it's our pleasure. So I had the absolute honor

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of visiting you at your facility along with Sheila

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Thielen, and we'll get to that connection in

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a little while in St. Pete. Where are we finding

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you this afternoon? St. Pete. I'm over in St.

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Pete at the location inside. St. Pete Calisthenics.

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Tripp is over in St. Pete as well, just at a

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different location. Beautiful. Well, we'll get

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into where you are, why you're there at the moment.

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I'd love to get a backstory on both of you first,

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though. So Tripp, let's start with you. Tell

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me where you were born and tell me a little bit

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about your family dynamic, what your parents

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did, how many siblings. I was born in Fort Myers,

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Florida, and I am. I have one other sibling,

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a younger brother, and my family dynamic was

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unique. My parents were about 21 years older

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than me. They were very involved with athletics

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and in the middle of life, they were still young,

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where a lot of the other parents were starting

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to get into their, you know, say 40s when they

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were still in their younger 30s. And so they

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were a big part of my athletic journey, who I

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am as a person. But also they're a lot like myself

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and we're all a lot of like. type A type people.

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So it's unique family dynamic, especially as

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you know, we're going through the, you know,

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the aging process, especially with myself being

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in health and wellness. It's a unique time where

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now I'm able to start to provide value into,

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you know, their day to day lives by bringing

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in a lot of these new health modalities and ways

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of thinking. What about profession? What were

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your parents doing? My dad owned and still owns

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a hydraulic welding business, and it fabricates

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large hydraulic pumps that pump out millions

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of gallons of water in places like the Harvey

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Canal in New Orleans, in the Philippines. So

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it's been a unique thing to have in my... in

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my life is to have that family business before

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my grandfather owned it so it's been in our family

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longer than i've been alive so to have that around.

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And then to choose a different path was a unique

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dynamic. And so my mom, she was a stay -at -home

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mom. She worked as a PE teacher and then eventually

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became a nurse. So it's unique to hear the perspective

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from her experience in the hospital and the medical

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system and start to compare that to a lot of

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the stuff we're learning now. With your father's

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profession, was there any correlation or did

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the Hurricane Katrina disaster cross -pollinate

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in the world that he was working in as far as

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removing water and keeping areas safe? Well,

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even since the early 2000s, when a lot of the

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larger hurricanes hit, his business had a big

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impact on everything going on. So, you know,

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a lot of times hurricanes are a tough thing for

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people, but it's the busiest time of the year

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for him to get into these locations, to be able

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to get the team, the machinery in there, and

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to start to clear out that land, you know, before

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it starts to do too much damage. What about from

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your mom's perspective, being a PE teacher and

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then a nurse, you get to see the potential of

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forging health in our young people and then the

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downstream effects of good or poor health in

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the nursing area. What, if any, have been your

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conversations about the importance of physical

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education in our children and then that factoring

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into the rest of adulthood? Well, it all starts

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with prevention. you know it's just that's the

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time when we need to be leading and teaching

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these kids correctly. Obviously, we're finding

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flaws in the education system. And it's not only

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just in what we're learning in the books, but

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it's also how we're exercising, what we're eating

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in the cafeteria. So just to be able to have

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that behind the scenes kind of view and perspective

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from my mom was a big part of, I guess, now like

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thinking about it would shape me to who I am

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today. What about sports and exercise? What were

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you playing and doing when you were in school

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age? My main sports growing up were soccer and

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baseball. And I really thrived at that. I was

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a little bit smaller. I was born a month early,

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so I was a little bit smaller than a lot of the

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guys my age. But I was faster and I worked harder.

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And it was something that I needed that. that

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drive if I wanted to succeed. And so eventually

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as I got older into eighth grade and freshman

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year of high school, I got pretty much as big

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as I am right now. And it really helped. And

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then I was able to step up and start playing

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football. And that became my go -to sport. but

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it's all relevant to kind of what we're talking

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about. All the football, soccer, and even martial

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arts, I did a lot of training behind that. We're

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causing a lot of micro -concussions, daily just

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CTE issues, and that started racking up over

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the years, and especially as I got into my 20s,

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a lot of these sports were definitely, I felt

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the wear and tear. Now, at the school age, what

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were your career aspirations? What were you dreaming

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of becoming then? You know, that's funny, and

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this will be something unique to say, but they

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asked me that when I was a senior in high school.

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And the only professional athlete was all I could

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think of. But besides for that, I had to list

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three things, and the three things I listed was

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DEA agent, I was a bodybuilder, and a... Ice

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cream vendor salesman on the beach. You could

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do all those things simultaneously. You could

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be undercover as a bodybuilding ice cream maker.

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Well, I mean, think about I'm kind of doing a

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lot of that now. You know, with the DEA stuff,

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I had a background in high level security. So

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even day to day, I make sure, you know, myself,

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family and friends are safe. The second part

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is the bodybuilder. And, you know, I'm I do my

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best to take care of myself. And at times, being

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a plant based vegan, I was extremely muscular

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and felt that pride at being kind of a. a vegan,

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healthy bodybuilder that didn't need the extra

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calories through meat. And then the third part

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about it is an ice cream salesman. Well, instead

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of that, I'm sharing and selling wellness equipment

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and I'm educating. So it's not exactly, but it's

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also cool because I've chosen exactly. what I

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wanted to do in my life. Like everything up to

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this point, I created my reality. And that's

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a big saying, you know, I share with others is

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create your reality. And that's something nowadays

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with the post COVID and we're not needing to

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work that nine to five. It's a great time where

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we can find our passions, create an LLC and be

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able to move forward and work with whoever we

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want. Find those people, people like Jason, people

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like Jeff. is his wife, Jessie, and surround

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myself around those people and create my reality.

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Beautiful. Well, I want to go to some things

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that you talked about, but let's bring Jason

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up to speed first. So Jason, tell me where you

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were born and tell me a little bit about your

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family dynamic, what your parents did, how many

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siblings. Okay. So I was born in sunny Buffalo,

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New York and spent a good amount of my life there

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until college. Um, let's see. So my parents,

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my dad owned a construction, a concrete flat

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work company, a hundred percent Italian guy pouring

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concrete shoes, go figure. Um, um, and then my

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mom is, and still is a teacher. She's always

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done elementary education. And, um, yeah, so

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my dad being an entrepreneur his whole life.

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And his brothers and family and then on my mom's

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side, a lot of her siblings, she had five, are

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entrepreneurs as well. And so entrepreneurship

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was always kind of something in my foundation

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and upbringing. But of course, I had to learn

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to pour concrete floors and go through that experience

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so that I could feel what it would feel like

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to do manual labor. And if I don't graduate college

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and all that good stuff, this is what I get to

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do. So I was very fortunate. My parents were

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very supportive and caring, even though I joke

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about my dad being Italian and he was the typical

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Italian contractor. But at the same time, they've

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always been very supportive. You know, my mom

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being a elementary school teacher, she works

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with kids all day and just nothing but love.

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Everyone says that their mom's the best and nicest

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mom in the world. But I think I take that one.

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Yeah. Yeah. So I have a sister, she's adopted

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from Korea. She's four years younger than me.

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And yeah, amazing human. Beautiful. With your

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mom, have you had any conversations about the

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evolution or devolution of education at that

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elementary level? So she came from, she's always

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worked in Catholic schools. And so more of the

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private sector, and they tend to be I think,

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you know, I don't want to say she got lucky,

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but I don't think it's the same situations that

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you deal with public schools. Right. And in fact,

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you know, I mean, the parents are always there,

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always interacting. She's getting the messages

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on the day and the evenings and weekends. So

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the but the biggest thing was she got paid garbage

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for her whole life. Like, it's crazy. And we

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that that's something we do talk about. It's

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crazy that, you know, you're influencing this

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youth and. They spend more time with the teacher

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than with their parents half the time, especially

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with all these working parents. And their pay

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is still minimal. So that would be the biggest

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one. That's so wrong. I mean, the priorities

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are just so shifted. And if you look at some

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of the top education systems in the world, like

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Finland, the teachers are required to have a

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higher level of education because, as you said,

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it's a very important thing that they're doing.

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But I'm pretty sure they're well paid for it

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as well. And it's lunacy that you can get equally

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paid in the restaurant industry, for example,

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as someone who's literally taking care of your

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kids five days a week. Yeah. No, and it's the

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same thing for the medical system too, right?

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When we get into nurses, my wife's been a nurse

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and it's the same thing. So it's like you said,

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priorities are a little interesting. We, which

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I know Trip agrees, we don't think that's a coincidence.

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That's not by accident as well. So, but that's

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a whole nother, that's a whole nother podcast.

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Yeah, I'm sure we'll untie that in a minute.

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What about sports and exercise? What were you

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doing in school age? Soccer and hockey. I mean,

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I was brought up on baseball. And so that's what

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I was playing first growing up. But I fell in

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love with hockey in high school and growing up

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over during high school in the suburbs of Clarence,

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soccer was a big one. So that was basically my

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training and, you know, building up stamina for

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hockey. But hockey was my real passion. And what

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about career aspirations? What were you dreaming

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of becoming? A stockbroker. My whole life, I

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really liked how money could make more money.

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And so I thought that, you know, that was the

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smart way to go and went to school, got a finance

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degree and going through the process, I learned

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just how corrupt and crooked that industry is,

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right? With not caring what they're selling more,

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just make the sale, close the stock. And so it

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just really turned me off. I just couldn't. Couldn't

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continue even after getting my finance degree.

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What really, what I struggle to comprehend is

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when you make a lot of money, that's other people's

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money that you've got. People that worked as

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a nurse, as a teacher, pouring concrete, you

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know, whatever it was for, you know, 40, 50,

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60 hours a week, grinding, trying to make ends

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meet. And now you're able to finagle this, these

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finances to accumulate everyone else's basically

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work hours is what you've got. And I don't understand

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how we have devolved to think that that's something

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to aspire to, that the monopoly is this kind

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of holy grail of being an American, for example.

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Right. And it's interesting. I think the world

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is opening up to that and understanding it more.

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But to your point, it's always been a grind.

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And if you're not doing 17 things and 12 of them

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are to make money, right? um then you're lazy

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and you're not doing it yeah and then you get

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all those youtube motivational videos that you

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got to get up earlier and run and have a nice

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bath and then go steal people's money right yeah

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no that's exactly it all right we'll trip back

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to you so you're dreaming of slinging dairy products

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on a beach while lifting weights and looking

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for bad guys talk to me about where that led

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you professionally well After college, I was

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trying to find my way. And an exciting thing

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that I did, I got my pilot's license. And that

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was a really cool time in my life going through

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that training. But that was also the big awareness

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that my brain wasn't working correctly, especially

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when you're getting your visual. you know, pilot's

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license, a lot of multitasking, looking around

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like you're not fixated on the instruments. You

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got to look around all the time. And when I would

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get done, I was worn out. And it was it was something

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I knew that I needed to get back on. more cognitive

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level before I was able to do that safely. And

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that was obviously because of the concussions.

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And through that process, a lot of that agitation,

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CTE issues were kicking in, and I was self -medicating

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with alcohol. Obviously, alcohol is something

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used as a celebration tool when I was playing

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sports or hanging out with the friends or on

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the weekend. But then it started turning into

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isolation. drinking and it progressed into something

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that was daily and then i knew there was an issue

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and it was like that awareness was probably the

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greatest thing that put put me into the position

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i am right now i understood i didn't want to

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feel like that I knew I was destined for a better

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life. And that was something that led me down

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the path to find and do everything that I'm doing

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right now. Obviously, going through the process

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of alcoholism, I got the opportunity to go to

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a handful of rehabs, which were like. life vacation

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like resets there it's almost like summer camp

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you got to go there work on yourself physical

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mental and i learned a lot about how recovery

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programs could work the good the bad and I evaluated

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that and I saw where they were excelling but

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then also where the issues were and I always

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said to myself if I had my own program I would

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do it better I would do it like this and that's

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where it started to lead me into that direction

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of how could I heal myself but then also how

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can I duplicate this and share this with others

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always in the back of my mind so it led me into

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yoga which was all about community nutrition

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but then it was the first awareness of the breath

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and how important breathing is and that was a

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really unique thing I was changing my life everything

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was good but I still didn't feel like I had that

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real electricity blood flowed through my brain

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that was dulling me down and it wasn't until

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I got into high altitude oxygen which is one

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of our more advanced modalities that we work

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with is that I was the first time I was able

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to get that blood flowing through my brain. I

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felt like my body was alive, charged. I didn't

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have that dullness and you could see it in my

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eyes. And I almost immediately started speaking

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better. I was more cognitively aware of what

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was going on in my life. And from that point

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on is when things really, really progressed for

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me to be able to put a lot of this together.

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put myself in the situation to be around experts

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and find the people smarter than myself learn

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from them level up and then it led me into finding

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people like jason who had the same dream and

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same future and it was just a beautiful combination

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of not only just like business knowledge but

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then the ability to create this and make this

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a tangible business to help others You hit on

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a really important point, and I want to get your

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feedback on what you saw that was broken, because

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I've heard so many horror stories when it comes

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to more so like being put in front of the wrong

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counselor or psychologist and that being detrimental.

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You have first responders, I hear it over and

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over again, and they pour their heart out to

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this person and the person starts crying. And

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they say, I can't help you. And you think about

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someone who's in crisis and they hear that, that's

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basically verifying, yes, you are a piece of

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shit. You should just probably just finish it

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now. Obviously completely wrong, but that's what

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they're going to perceive in that moment. And

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then with recovery. I've heard many, many success

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stories too, but I've also heard a lot of people

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say that it's big business. The recovery centers

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are big business. So therefore, again, back to

00:20:50.440 --> 00:20:52.859
what Jason was saying, what is the focus? Is

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it actually making people better or is it the

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bottom line? So what were you seeing, firstly,

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as far as the things that were negative that

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may be even detrimental to the addicts out there?

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Well, it was a business. It was a big business

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too. The insurance game. was something that made

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these owners of these rehab centers multimillionaires.

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The fact that they were looking for people who

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had great insurance and they wanted them to relapse

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and then come back in, go through the program

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again, charge their insurance. Not only that,

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but then the aftercare. If you had the right

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insurance, they would put you in. You would have

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a safe halfway house and integration process.

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But if you didn't, you know, good luck. And,

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you know, a lot of times if your insurance ran

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out in the middle of your treatment, they would

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just and people were doing great. They would

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let them go. And it was just kind of on them.

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So that was really. Something that made me upset,

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just watching that through that process. And

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then also the aftercare, the way these halfway

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houses can manipulate a lot of these people trying

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to recover. Also, not only on the men's side

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of things, too, but also watch how they treated

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a lot of the women. They don't have money. They

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don't have resources. They don't have anywhere

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to go. And so they put them to work. And sometimes

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it's. things to help, you know, maybe make some

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phone calls or answer the phones that bring people

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into the, the rehab center, or it could be some

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more, you know, evil stuff where they're, you

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know, you know, using their bodies or helping

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a lot of these people relapse. So there's a lot

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to it. And that's something that we You know,

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and it's just like something I've always wanted

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to offer the better version. And now that the

00:22:47.099 --> 00:22:50.119
system is getting called out and we're understanding

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that these options of what have kept us into,

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you know, these dark places for a long time,

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like I wanted to recover, but it was just the

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system was tough. It was I had to change my surroundings.

00:23:01.980 --> 00:23:04.920
And so now it's just like I see a better version.

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I'm really excited to share that with others.

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And just to add to that real quick, Tripp, you

00:23:09.619 --> 00:23:11.519
would always say, I mean, the food in there is

00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:16.500
garbage, right? I mean, the overall games that

00:23:16.500 --> 00:23:22.579
they did, there was no up -leveling. It was pretty...

00:23:22.579 --> 00:23:26.420
Go ahead. No, no. I mean, that's you're exactly

00:23:26.420 --> 00:23:29.279
right. You know, some places had great food.

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And, you know, if you if you had the insurance

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and other places, it was just a place to get

00:23:35.099 --> 00:23:37.500
you off the streets for a little bit and a transition.

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So it was rehabs, jails and morgues. And, you

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know, a nice number here that makes me feel good

00:23:44.579 --> 00:23:47.720
as a human being, showing that I had that discipline

00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:53.480
and I put the work in, I think only. Seven percent.

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No, it's 3%. 3 % of people that go through the

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door of rehab centers actually recover long -term,

00:24:01.420 --> 00:24:04.119
and it's probably even less than that. So it's

00:24:04.119 --> 00:24:06.000
something that even though people are wanting

00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:09.160
to change their lives, how many millions of people

00:24:09.160 --> 00:24:12.019
go through their entire lives fighting this,

00:24:12.079 --> 00:24:14.599
fighting something, and they never win. They

00:24:14.599 --> 00:24:17.799
never get it, and they're just—that's their life.

00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:22.160
I'm very blessed to have— beaten that um the

00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:24.940
mental spiritual part of things and to have that

00:24:24.940 --> 00:24:27.480
obsession gone and it's been seven and a half

00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:29.839
years since i've drank and that's probably the

00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:32.759
most probably the thing that i'm proud of about

00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:35.960
myself you know athletic accomplishments business

00:24:35.960 --> 00:24:38.279
doesn't compare to just having that discipline

00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:42.920
to to kick that after all the failure well it's

00:24:42.920 --> 00:24:45.759
just symptomatic of what we're seeing a lot of

00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:47.579
the moment you know for example i've said this

00:24:47.579 --> 00:24:51.089
many times I never stand on an ivory tower and

00:24:51.089 --> 00:24:53.369
say, well, I'm in shape, so why don't other people

00:24:53.369 --> 00:24:55.930
just make good decisions and they can be in shape

00:24:55.930 --> 00:24:59.769
too? I grew up on a farm in England where we

00:24:59.769 --> 00:25:02.490
grew our own food. There was orchards with fruit.

00:25:02.569 --> 00:25:04.990
We had our own meat and chickens and all the

00:25:04.990 --> 00:25:08.609
things. So my baseline was hard work, discomfort,

00:25:08.809 --> 00:25:13.119
and food in its natural form. So now you compare

00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:15.460
that to someone who's been raised in an urban

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setting and maybe the bodegas where they get

00:25:17.539 --> 00:25:19.799
their food from and, you know, TV at night or

00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:22.240
video games more recently. It's a completely

00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:25.019
different environment. My environment set me

00:25:25.019 --> 00:25:27.440
up to really have a healthy life. Ultimately,

00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:30.420
someone else's environment, as we see some of

00:25:30.420 --> 00:25:32.559
these young kids that are already morbidly obese

00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:35.880
and diabetic at 14 years old, or the spine is

00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:38.380
already curved, like, you know, an 80 year old,

00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:42.319
they're not exactly set up for success. So pulling

00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:44.980
these issues out of the shadows and front and

00:25:44.980 --> 00:25:47.839
center and just asking, is this system set up

00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:50.900
to make us healthier or recover, or is it set

00:25:50.900 --> 00:25:53.299
up for the opposite? And I would say that our

00:25:53.299 --> 00:25:56.539
current society is set up for disease, which

00:25:56.539 --> 00:25:59.380
we were alluding to earlier, companies make trillions

00:25:59.380 --> 00:26:02.240
of dollars from. Where's the draw to make people

00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:04.500
healthier when these companies are making so

00:26:04.500 --> 00:26:07.380
much money, whether it is a fast food company

00:26:07.380 --> 00:26:11.329
or a drug company or a rehab facility? And just

00:26:11.329 --> 00:26:14.690
to add to that, right, we've, it's not an area

00:26:14.690 --> 00:26:16.690
and with everyone that we work with, we're coaches

00:26:16.690 --> 00:26:18.589
and consultants and we point people in the right

00:26:18.589 --> 00:26:22.190
direction. But there are things like NAD, for

00:26:22.190 --> 00:26:27.170
example, for addiction that people don't realize

00:26:27.170 --> 00:26:30.650
is an option. And that's something like the,

00:26:30.690 --> 00:26:32.789
I'll have to confirm, but I think it's something

00:26:32.789 --> 00:26:37.509
like 10 % actually relapse, right? Compared to

00:26:37.509 --> 00:26:41.720
before. And so these are simple things and, you

00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:43.420
know, they're not cheap, but at the same time,

00:26:43.420 --> 00:26:45.240
relatively speaking, when it comes to what you're

00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:46.799
paying, I think trip, you know, some of your

00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:51.319
places were 20 grand for, uh, 30 days. Right.

00:26:51.900 --> 00:26:54.700
Uh, you know, I mean, so picture that and there's

00:26:54.700 --> 00:26:57.980
at least 10 people in there. I mean, 200 that,

00:26:58.019 --> 00:27:00.319
right. So like if they took that and got these

00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:04.450
things that, uh, at wholesale. There are just

00:27:04.450 --> 00:27:07.109
so many more solutions that, again, to Trip's

00:27:07.109 --> 00:27:11.369
point, they're just not even considering. You

00:27:11.369 --> 00:27:13.230
could go on a cruise for 30 days cheaper than

00:27:13.230 --> 00:27:18.250
that. Right? You'd probably be better off. Yeah.

00:27:19.549 --> 00:27:21.289
All right. Well, Jason, let's go to you, and

00:27:21.289 --> 00:27:23.009
then obviously we'll pull both of you into what

00:27:23.009 --> 00:27:26.009
you're doing now. But you were laying concrete,

00:27:26.130 --> 00:27:28.930
then you got into the financial world. Walk me

00:27:28.930 --> 00:27:33.500
through your steps to where you are today. You

00:27:33.500 --> 00:27:37.160
know, I always growing up and being in sports

00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:43.880
always had a focus on my physical abilities and

00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:46.839
being able to work out and, you know, just throw

00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:51.279
up the most weight. And so it was always something

00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:53.759
that I took care of or at least thought I was

00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:58.759
taking care of and was conscious of. But so a

00:27:58.759 --> 00:28:01.339
big one in high school was I was the skinny kid.

00:28:01.869 --> 00:28:03.769
trying to put on weight, which I think is pretty

00:28:03.769 --> 00:28:08.750
common for a lot of us. And so I'd say when college

00:28:08.750 --> 00:28:12.650
hit and all of a sudden my metabolism changed,

00:28:12.890 --> 00:28:15.210
the food that I was eating, the garbage that

00:28:15.210 --> 00:28:20.029
I was eating caught up to me and just made me

00:28:20.029 --> 00:28:22.430
blow up. I was like 220 pounds and just looked

00:28:22.430 --> 00:28:25.950
like muscular, but it was all hidden under a

00:28:25.950 --> 00:28:28.890
whole bunch of inflammation. And so it made me

00:28:28.890 --> 00:28:32.069
really, you know, realize from a personal standpoint,

00:28:32.089 --> 00:28:34.910
again, not getting into supporting anybody else,

00:28:34.930 --> 00:28:38.309
but just myself, realizing, okay, there is a

00:28:38.309 --> 00:28:39.910
difference with what you eat. It's not calories

00:28:39.910 --> 00:28:42.890
in, calories out. And so that was something that,

00:28:42.910 --> 00:28:45.230
you know, then through college, you'd work out

00:28:45.230 --> 00:28:49.049
with your buddies and enjoy that to be in shape

00:28:49.049 --> 00:28:55.490
and look good for, you know, going out. But then...

00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:02.160
Taking it a step further, as 2017 rolled around,

00:29:02.539 --> 00:29:06.460
I got a big rash that took over my whole body

00:29:06.460 --> 00:29:08.980
and just scared the crap out of me. I went down

00:29:08.980 --> 00:29:12.599
to Florida and came back and was itching my leg,

00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:15.000
thought it was just a bug bite, but it ended

00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:19.579
up turning into a rash that took over one leg,

00:29:19.579 --> 00:29:21.400
then another leg, then it was going up my stomach

00:29:21.400 --> 00:29:24.450
and my neck and on my lip. And it just really

00:29:24.450 --> 00:29:28.609
scared me and opened my eyes up to, you know,

00:29:28.609 --> 00:29:31.170
anything can happen at any time if you're not

00:29:31.170 --> 00:29:33.150
taking care of yourself. It's not just this nutrition

00:29:33.150 --> 00:29:35.329
thing because I was still, I was in great shape.

00:29:35.410 --> 00:29:37.569
I was working a construction job. You know, if

00:29:37.569 --> 00:29:39.450
you looked at me physically, you'd think, okay,

00:29:39.569 --> 00:29:42.390
you know, he's taking care of himself. But it

00:29:42.390 --> 00:29:45.789
was a stress thing. It was an emotion, an emotional

00:29:45.789 --> 00:29:48.730
thing. I was going through some serious emotional

00:29:48.730 --> 00:29:53.519
situations personally. And like I said, working

00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:55.859
crazy hours in construction and it just beat

00:29:55.859 --> 00:30:00.380
me up. And then, yeah, then there I was at certain

00:30:00.380 --> 00:30:02.799
points, I was thinking I had a flesh eating bacteria

00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:05.059
that was taking over, you know, my mind just

00:30:05.059 --> 00:30:09.000
goes to the worst case things. And so that was

00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:12.059
at that same time, I was diving deep with a good

00:30:12.059 --> 00:30:15.799
friend of mine into the gut microbiome for mental

00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:21.069
health because of one diet. And then two, the

00:30:21.069 --> 00:30:23.589
gut microbiome and bacteria that's in the gut

00:30:23.589 --> 00:30:26.950
can influence the brain, right? The brain gut

00:30:26.950 --> 00:30:31.569
access is a very well researched space. And so

00:30:31.569 --> 00:30:36.329
again, it always was this piece that I had loved

00:30:36.329 --> 00:30:38.490
doing. We started a company called Mindful and

00:30:38.490 --> 00:30:42.309
we were just sharing with the world how the gut

00:30:42.309 --> 00:30:45.329
microbiome and what you eat can influence your,

00:30:45.369 --> 00:30:51.339
not just your body, but your brain. So then fast

00:30:51.339 --> 00:30:57.160
forward to 2020 when everything shut down and

00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:00.559
people were working from home and I started to

00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:02.940
get into business coaching and consulting from

00:31:02.940 --> 00:31:06.079
my business background. You know, we had run

00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:07.900
a construction company. We actually started a

00:31:07.900 --> 00:31:10.500
conference for seven years where we taught people

00:31:10.500 --> 00:31:12.519
how to start, run and grow a polished concrete

00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.380
business, started an online university, concrete

00:31:15.380 --> 00:31:18.650
polishing university. And so I had always, again,

00:31:18.750 --> 00:31:21.069
had that entrepreneurial background. So I took

00:31:21.069 --> 00:31:23.289
that and went into business coaching and consulting.

00:31:23.670 --> 00:31:27.410
And 95 % of my clients were in the wellness space.

00:31:27.630 --> 00:31:33.049
So whether that ended up being a functional health

00:31:33.049 --> 00:31:38.529
coach, chiropractor, a boxing gym, lymphatic

00:31:38.529 --> 00:31:41.210
drainage, all the way to like Germanic new medicine.

00:31:41.289 --> 00:31:44.400
So, you know, God just kept giving me. these

00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:47.559
people that I was passionate about. And it was

00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:51.819
just this very symbiotic relationship. And so

00:31:51.819 --> 00:31:54.740
I'd always wanted to, you know, again, just keep

00:31:54.740 --> 00:31:57.599
going deeper with that and share that and, and

00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:00.960
had slowly started sharing more and more. And

00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:10.019
then met my wife, who is a RN. And she You know,

00:32:10.059 --> 00:32:12.559
of course, a huge passion for the medical space

00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.940
started doing her started in the hospital and

00:32:15.940 --> 00:32:20.619
all of that Western medicine. And then, of course,

00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:25.500
2020 opened up her eyes as well. And we met probably

00:32:25.500 --> 00:32:29.700
three years ago and Trip was one of her clients

00:32:29.700 --> 00:32:32.839
for IVs. And I think that was maybe three years

00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:35.279
ago, Trip, something like that, two or three.

00:32:37.369 --> 00:32:39.809
And so, yeah, so Tripp and Jesse had met prior

00:32:39.809 --> 00:32:44.849
to me meeting Jesse and Tripp was always wanting

00:32:44.849 --> 00:32:50.210
to build his vision. And so when Jesse was finally

00:32:50.210 --> 00:32:53.869
time to leave her work and Jesse and I were together,

00:32:54.130 --> 00:32:56.049
she was like, you know, there's this guy Tripp

00:32:56.049 --> 00:32:58.630
that keeps reaching out and that wants to really

00:32:58.630 --> 00:33:02.849
work and build this vision that he has. And so

00:33:02.849 --> 00:33:05.710
he had Voltage Health back then and was building

00:33:05.710 --> 00:33:11.549
that. brand. And it just fit, you know, it fits

00:33:11.549 --> 00:33:13.829
so seamlessly, because we were all just very

00:33:13.829 --> 00:33:16.710
passionate about helping people, helping ourselves,

00:33:17.009 --> 00:33:19.230
right, we all come from these pain to purpose

00:33:19.230 --> 00:33:22.910
stories. And then I'll go further into another

00:33:22.910 --> 00:33:27.049
additional one that is kind of made me dive deeper

00:33:27.049 --> 00:33:29.869
into certain areas of the brain. But, but yeah,

00:33:29.950 --> 00:33:33.450
it was just always a passion for health and wellness,

00:33:33.650 --> 00:33:36.940
coaching and consulting. The finance degree,

00:33:37.259 --> 00:33:39.980
stockbrokers just weren't doing it. I ended up

00:33:39.980 --> 00:33:42.559
doing mortgages for a while because at least

00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:45.160
that was a big investment for somebody that I

00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:48.380
knew I could help and put my heart into them

00:33:48.380 --> 00:33:52.420
getting the right place. But there's always just

00:33:52.420 --> 00:33:55.819
been this deep passion for my body and then understanding

00:33:55.819 --> 00:33:58.420
other people and how their body works so that

00:33:58.420 --> 00:34:01.720
they could really optimize their life. My business,

00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:06.809
coaching and consulting. had transformed during

00:34:06.809 --> 00:34:09.610
that time or prior to to trip and even meeting

00:34:09.610 --> 00:34:11.730
jesse it was build your business around a balanced

00:34:11.730 --> 00:34:16.829
life and again my my rash i know came from my

00:34:16.829 --> 00:34:19.230
immune system being shut down from overworking

00:34:19.230 --> 00:34:21.769
it's that hustle culture Right. It was like,

00:34:21.769 --> 00:34:24.210
well, do do 10 things and you should be having

00:34:24.210 --> 00:34:26.570
your main job and your side hustle. And then,

00:34:26.610 --> 00:34:29.909
you know, when when nine o 'clock comes and this

00:34:29.909 --> 00:34:32.150
is what I saw my parents doing, they were both

00:34:32.150 --> 00:34:34.190
workers, even though my mom was a teacher, she'd

00:34:34.190 --> 00:34:36.769
still stay up late working. It was that hustle

00:34:36.769 --> 00:34:39.550
culture. And so I knew there was something better.

00:34:39.989 --> 00:34:42.630
There was a better way for us to operate, to

00:34:42.630 --> 00:34:46.190
optimize. And that's yeah. Then then I met Trip

00:34:46.190 --> 00:34:51.760
and the rest is history. Well, before we move

00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:55.039
forward with the Bio -Optimization Institute,

00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:59.280
I think it's really important for us in 2026

00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:02.039
to continue having conversations about the pandemic.

00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:05.599
Because in my eyes, a lot of things were done

00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:08.019
very poorly. And at the end, people were like,

00:35:08.139 --> 00:35:09.480
well, we just don't want to talk about it now.

00:35:09.619 --> 00:35:12.139
And that does such a disservice to the people

00:35:12.139 --> 00:35:15.320
that we lost. And it certainly doesn't help lower

00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:18.869
the deaths. and increased prevention when it

00:35:18.869 --> 00:35:20.630
comes to whatever the next virus is going to

00:35:20.630 --> 00:35:23.769
be. So when you reflect back on that period,

00:35:23.989 --> 00:35:25.750
you know, what are some of the things that you

00:35:25.750 --> 00:35:28.090
wish that we had learned from and made changes?

00:35:28.550 --> 00:35:34.110
I personally think that it was done strategically.

00:35:35.309 --> 00:35:39.010
It was probably the greatest awakening tool that

00:35:39.010 --> 00:35:43.130
could have been used to get people to look past

00:35:43.130 --> 00:35:45.469
the day -to -day, to stop following Hollywood,

00:35:45.750 --> 00:35:49.969
to understand about fake news, to realize that

00:35:49.969 --> 00:35:52.909
this isn't the best option that we could have.

00:35:53.289 --> 00:35:57.570
And through that process now, like years later,

00:35:57.750 --> 00:36:01.849
and we're finding out that we were correct in...

00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:05.940
having doubt about the system and after being

00:36:05.940 --> 00:36:09.599
gaslit and act like we were the ones who were

00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:13.139
the evil ones to not inject ourselves with that

00:36:13.139 --> 00:36:16.000
like we were spreading some sort of disease to

00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:19.519
people when we had our natural immunity and we're

00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:22.659
the ones who didn't fall for that social experiment

00:36:22.659 --> 00:36:25.880
as well too the fact that we have our pure blood

00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:28.840
is something you know i say that i'm proud of

00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:30.960
not drinking alcohol for seven and a half years

00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:33.579
probably right up there maybe even more is the

00:36:33.579 --> 00:36:37.219
fact that i was intelligent enough to not fall

00:36:37.219 --> 00:36:40.139
for their programming i didn't get vaccinated

00:36:40.139 --> 00:36:43.659
and luckily Luckily, most of my friends and family

00:36:43.659 --> 00:36:47.239
around me that I trust didn't get it either.

00:36:48.829 --> 00:36:51.010
When it all went down, I lived in a high rise

00:36:51.010 --> 00:36:55.190
in downtown St. Pete and the divide that it caused

00:36:55.190 --> 00:36:57.389
and people in the building as we're going up

00:36:57.389 --> 00:37:01.630
and down the elevators to see the way, you know,

00:37:01.630 --> 00:37:04.289
and like we we were standing up for what we believed

00:37:04.289 --> 00:37:07.130
in, but still without facts. You know, I mean,

00:37:07.130 --> 00:37:10.110
we it was our instinct. It was the fact that

00:37:10.110 --> 00:37:13.190
we had discernment that made us who we were.

00:37:13.269 --> 00:37:16.070
And now after all these years that we're finding

00:37:16.070 --> 00:37:18.570
out that we were right, like I don't. think there

00:37:18.570 --> 00:37:20.809
should be any tiptoeing around to be honest with

00:37:20.809 --> 00:37:22.570
you when you brought this up it actually got

00:37:22.570 --> 00:37:24.590
me excited and my heart started beating a little

00:37:24.590 --> 00:37:27.110
bit because a lot of times we go into these conversations

00:37:27.110 --> 00:37:29.710
and we're like well you know it's like i don't

00:37:29.710 --> 00:37:31.730
know what your side of things are it's like sorry

00:37:31.730 --> 00:37:35.829
it's like we you got to understand that this

00:37:35.829 --> 00:37:38.510
there's a huge issue and people make mistakes

00:37:38.510 --> 00:37:40.989
you know i'm being very firm with the way i say

00:37:40.989 --> 00:37:43.969
you know how this science fair project or even

00:37:43.969 --> 00:37:46.750
social experiment went down but also it's like

00:37:46.750 --> 00:37:49.760
there were millions and billions of dollars of

00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:52.619
programming to get you to do that. People were

00:37:52.619 --> 00:37:56.619
forced out of their jobs. People were lost family

00:37:56.619 --> 00:37:59.599
members and friends. So now all these years later,

00:37:59.739 --> 00:38:02.480
this is not only that redemption time, but like,

00:38:02.500 --> 00:38:04.460
let's just get it right. Let's make sure it doesn't

00:38:04.460 --> 00:38:08.619
happen again. First of all, if you don't learn

00:38:08.619 --> 00:38:10.840
from the past, you're bound to repeat it, right?

00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:15.300
So I think we're all just being naive if we don't

00:38:15.300 --> 00:38:18.969
want to discuss the situation. I also think there's,

00:38:18.969 --> 00:38:21.969
to Tripp's point, there's a lot of purpose in

00:38:21.969 --> 00:38:24.670
that struggle. There was, you know, and it's

00:38:24.670 --> 00:38:29.530
one of those things, you know, our parents tell

00:38:29.530 --> 00:38:31.070
us certain things when we're growing up and they

00:38:31.070 --> 00:38:33.510
say, don't do that. Don't touch the fire, right?

00:38:33.590 --> 00:38:36.099
It's hot. It's going to burn you. a lot of us

00:38:36.099 --> 00:38:38.380
have to actually touch the fire to realize that

00:38:38.380 --> 00:38:40.659
it's hot and it's going to burn you. And that

00:38:40.659 --> 00:38:43.340
felt like one of those situations where we kind

00:38:43.340 --> 00:38:47.079
of were all thrown in together and have to learn

00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:51.559
from the struggle. And that's where I see a blessing

00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:54.420
in it, you know, and I don't know whether, you

00:38:54.420 --> 00:38:56.719
know, there's a part of me that also thinks that

00:38:56.719 --> 00:39:01.699
there was good, you know. big believer in God

00:39:01.699 --> 00:39:04.900
and that kind of, you know, there's a reason

00:39:04.900 --> 00:39:07.659
for everything. And I think there was a good

00:39:07.659 --> 00:39:11.820
side that was also almost allowing it to happen

00:39:11.820 --> 00:39:15.059
to kind of let us all wake up to it, right? Because

00:39:15.059 --> 00:39:17.159
look now what's going on. Now the discussions

00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:19.619
are around things like the vaccines. I mean,

00:39:19.659 --> 00:39:22.519
organic food, natural food, clean food, right?

00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:25.480
The toxins in the air. I mean, there wasn't an

00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:29.420
awareness like that until there was such... a

00:39:29.420 --> 00:39:32.340
issue even you know the overweight issues that

00:39:32.340 --> 00:39:34.820
go on that have gone on forever it's still something

00:39:34.820 --> 00:39:37.179
that would still keep going on to this day wouldn't

00:39:37.179 --> 00:39:41.380
even be addressed if i think if if covid didn't

00:39:41.380 --> 00:39:44.619
happen so you know to to ignore it and just let

00:39:44.619 --> 00:39:48.579
it go um we're doing a disservice to to ourselves

00:39:48.579 --> 00:39:52.139
but i i think there was a big blessing in in

00:39:52.139 --> 00:39:56.440
it happening it woke us all up what was interesting

00:39:56.440 --> 00:40:00.090
for me because i've find myself standing in the

00:40:00.090 --> 00:40:02.269
middle. Usually, you know, that's, that's kind

00:40:02.269 --> 00:40:04.769
of, I don't know. I just, I find this where most

00:40:04.769 --> 00:40:08.269
of the normal people are. And when that first

00:40:08.269 --> 00:40:10.170
happened, it was like world war one, you know,

00:40:10.190 --> 00:40:11.789
there was two trenches. And if you weren't in

00:40:11.789 --> 00:40:13.670
one of the two trenches, then both of them were

00:40:13.670 --> 00:40:17.730
shooting you basically. But when you stand in

00:40:17.730 --> 00:40:20.929
the middle, whether someone believes wholeheartedly

00:40:20.929 --> 00:40:23.150
that the vaccine was a solution or whether it

00:40:23.150 --> 00:40:25.349
was a Chinese conspiracy, you know, whatever

00:40:25.349 --> 00:40:28.519
the two extremes were, there was one truth. The

00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:31.059
healthier the human being, the higher there is

00:40:31.059 --> 00:40:33.699
a chance of a good outcome, period, point blank.

00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:35.480
Yes, there were some anomalies who seemingly

00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:37.500
from the outside seemed like very fit people,

00:40:37.619 --> 00:40:40.340
but there was an abnormality. There was something

00:40:40.340 --> 00:40:43.500
inside that made them susceptible to that virus.

00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:47.559
So the only truth that I found during that whole

00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:50.980
time was that if you can make people healthier,

00:40:51.469 --> 00:40:53.130
you are going to improve the outcome. If you

00:40:53.130 --> 00:40:55.409
believe in a vaccine, then your immune response

00:40:55.409 --> 00:40:58.110
to the vaccine is going to be stronger. If you

00:40:58.110 --> 00:40:59.829
don't believe in the vaccine, your immune response

00:40:59.829 --> 00:41:02.389
to the virus unprotected is going to be stronger.

00:41:03.309 --> 00:41:05.730
But none of that happened. God forbid that you

00:41:05.730 --> 00:41:08.269
suggest that comorbidities were contributing

00:41:08.269 --> 00:41:11.389
to the deaths, you were heretic. And so this

00:41:11.389 --> 00:41:13.809
is what disgusts me is I don't feel like we really

00:41:13.809 --> 00:41:17.389
have had a wellness conversation after, you know,

00:41:17.389 --> 00:41:19.130
this is from both sides of the aisle, both are

00:41:19.130 --> 00:41:21.880
complicit on this. Because the obesity crisis

00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:26.360
is like 30 years deep now, three decades. We

00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:28.980
should have had a complete control or delete

00:41:28.980 --> 00:41:32.780
on supporting local farmers to grow clean food,

00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:36.219
putting PE programs back in schools, cooking

00:41:36.219 --> 00:41:41.159
food in schools, real food, pedestrianizing downtowns,

00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:43.440
all the things that we know other cultures do

00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:47.480
and forge a lot of health in their nation. But

00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:50.429
going back to the money point of view. I don't

00:41:50.429 --> 00:41:52.530
feel like any lesson was learned. And the only

00:41:52.530 --> 00:41:54.329
thing that we've really heard as far as health

00:41:54.329 --> 00:41:56.829
is let's remove food dyes. Food dyes that other

00:41:56.829 --> 00:41:59.090
countries stopped using about 40 years ago when

00:41:59.090 --> 00:42:02.050
I was a child. So I feel like we've still got

00:42:02.050 --> 00:42:07.250
a lot of, you know, of discussions to have on

00:42:07.250 --> 00:42:09.849
how do we actually halt this? Because, you know,

00:42:09.849 --> 00:42:12.590
I feel like there was just a sweeping under the

00:42:12.590 --> 00:42:15.030
rug, whether you had the vaccine or not. And

00:42:15.030 --> 00:42:17.510
the actual most important things, which is basically

00:42:17.510 --> 00:42:19.570
the opposite of what everyone was told to do.

00:42:20.050 --> 00:42:22.230
So, you know, don't see friends and family where

00:42:22.230 --> 00:42:24.789
we know community is a big part of health. You

00:42:24.789 --> 00:42:26.849
know, don't see the sun where we know vitamin

00:42:26.849 --> 00:42:29.650
D is a big part of immune system. You know, gut

00:42:29.650 --> 00:42:31.610
bacteria, as you alluded to, and mental health.

00:42:32.110 --> 00:42:34.429
Get fast food and alcohol delivered to your house.

00:42:34.849 --> 00:42:36.949
And then, you know, binge watch Tiger King, as

00:42:36.949 --> 00:42:40.869
I always say. So we need to completely, you know,

00:42:40.909 --> 00:42:44.530
I think. level this whole conversation and start

00:42:44.530 --> 00:42:47.050
from scratch and put the real wellness initiatives

00:42:47.050 --> 00:42:49.610
in, but I haven't seen any of them post COVID

00:42:49.610 --> 00:42:53.070
to be honest. Yeah. And that's, you're totally

00:42:53.070 --> 00:42:57.170
right. And, you know, the, the business model

00:42:57.170 --> 00:43:01.070
of ours has definitely progressed and from an

00:43:01.070 --> 00:43:05.489
actual physical training, delivery, recovery

00:43:05.489 --> 00:43:10.570
into more of an education. type thing data collection

00:43:10.570 --> 00:43:15.090
and part of that education is showing the before

00:43:15.090 --> 00:43:17.989
during and after the results you know everything

00:43:17.989 --> 00:43:21.909
from blood work to the you know all around you

00:43:21.909 --> 00:43:25.309
know bio, you know, bioenergetic readers balance.

00:43:25.449 --> 00:43:28.809
So we're actually showing in real time. And sometimes,

00:43:28.949 --> 00:43:31.650
you know, you can't just rely on old stats and

00:43:31.650 --> 00:43:34.690
statistics. Actions speak louder than words.

00:43:34.730 --> 00:43:37.969
So for us living that, bringing and surrounding

00:43:37.969 --> 00:43:40.489
ourselves around the people that can really explain

00:43:40.489 --> 00:43:43.309
it, who have been in the trenches right there

00:43:43.309 --> 00:43:46.369
and actually have data and, you know, can be

00:43:46.369 --> 00:43:48.969
the whistleblowers is a really unique thing for

00:43:48.969 --> 00:43:53.480
us. So it's like. And I think we want all the

00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:56.800
data and the truth to come out right now, like

00:43:56.800 --> 00:43:59.400
immediately. But it's like we can only process

00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:02.960
so much. It's like the awakening doesn't happen

00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:05.079
overnight. You just can't grab someone by the

00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:08.059
collar and shake it into them. It's got to be

00:44:08.059 --> 00:44:10.559
repetition, repetition. And sometimes it takes

00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:14.739
10, 15, 20 times to watch an Instagram video.

00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:17.880
You know, someone says it out loud to start or

00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:20.550
you feel it. physically you know like this isn't

00:44:20.550 --> 00:44:23.070
just a perspective thing because a lot of the

00:44:23.070 --> 00:44:25.949
stuff that we see was always just you know from

00:44:25.949 --> 00:44:29.769
our tv in the movies or on our phone so now for

00:44:29.769 --> 00:44:32.429
the we lived the movie you know it was pretty

00:44:32.429 --> 00:44:35.250
wild you know everyone had their own independent

00:44:35.250 --> 00:44:39.469
uh you know lives you know everyone was in their

00:44:39.469 --> 00:44:42.349
own unique cities and whatever but it was a wild

00:44:42.349 --> 00:44:44.610
time that was like something to be remembered

00:44:44.610 --> 00:44:49.239
so you know this is you know to tie all that

00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:52.340
up it's a unique time to be alive because even

00:44:52.340 --> 00:44:54.500
though we're not getting to these solutions immediately

00:44:54.500 --> 00:44:57.500
at least they're being talked about because if

00:44:57.500 --> 00:44:59.460
you try to talk about it about all this years

00:44:59.460 --> 00:45:03.239
ago and you're a natural wellness healer you

00:45:03.239 --> 00:45:05.559
know they you might have gotten blackballed or

00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:10.179
even you know just you know you know the nicest

00:45:10.179 --> 00:45:12.460
way possible maybe you know they just got rid

00:45:12.460 --> 00:45:17.579
of you yeah and i mean You both bring up great

00:45:17.579 --> 00:45:20.920
points. And the thing that they do and they continue

00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:24.340
to do is just politicize everything. So no matter

00:45:24.340 --> 00:45:27.159
what, right, no matter what you think, the first

00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:29.380
words that come out of your mouth instantly put

00:45:29.380 --> 00:45:32.579
you into one of the two categories, which is

00:45:32.579 --> 00:45:37.519
crazy to me. And I think a number of people agree,

00:45:37.780 --> 00:45:39.199
you know, when you talk about it. I mean, first

00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:43.599
of all, it's right wing and left wing. It's wings

00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:47.550
of the same bird. right like they're so they've

00:45:47.550 --> 00:45:51.789
they've got us so just kind of arguing on the

00:45:51.789 --> 00:45:54.449
situation and that's kind of you know to me that's

00:45:54.449 --> 00:45:57.210
how they make they discredit everything and then

00:45:57.210 --> 00:45:59.889
of course ai's here now and so it's even harder

00:45:59.889 --> 00:46:03.050
to have these conversations um but it's great

00:46:03.050 --> 00:46:05.730
james that you're bringing it up um you know

00:46:05.730 --> 00:46:08.349
i i i'm interested you know you don't think that

00:46:08.349 --> 00:46:11.849
they're diving deeper into it you know with things

00:46:11.849 --> 00:46:15.010
like the the food dies but then the food pyramid

00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:19.159
And then, you know, the biggest thing is also

00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:20.960
these research papers, like everybody writes

00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:23.099
a post and talks about research papers and says,

00:46:23.139 --> 00:46:25.079
oh, well, the research says this. And then you

00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:27.079
look into the research and see that it was funded

00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:29.800
by the manufacturers of that product and whatnot.

00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:33.019
So like they've just got so much deception. And

00:46:33.019 --> 00:46:36.639
then again, emotion with politicizing things,

00:46:36.780 --> 00:46:40.219
politicizing COVID and and now health and wellness.

00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:44.199
I think that's where. A lot of people just shut

00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:46.179
down because no one knows how to communicate.

00:46:46.699 --> 00:46:50.219
There's a big challenge in open conversation

00:46:50.219 --> 00:46:53.320
and saying, okay, here's my side. Now let me

00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:56.500
present or let me listen to your side. It just

00:46:56.500 --> 00:46:59.059
goes right into, you know, you're threatening

00:46:59.059 --> 00:47:03.340
my family or my life by telling me that I should

00:47:03.340 --> 00:47:05.719
or shouldn't have gotten the vaccine, right?

00:47:06.380 --> 00:47:09.059
Yeah, yeah. And I think what maddens me is if

00:47:09.059 --> 00:47:12.280
you look at... The main principles of how we

00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:14.559
would make a massive dent into the physical and

00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:17.639
mental health of this nation, it's literally

00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:21.559
live as we did 100 years ago. Move like you did,

00:47:21.699 --> 00:47:24.280
eat like you did, have community like you did.

00:47:24.860 --> 00:47:28.679
And this is a problem going back to the corporate

00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:31.940
model, is people want to make money. from these

00:47:31.940 --> 00:47:35.199
hacks and these shortcuts and these quick -fix

00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:38.179
pills. And the reality is, no, it takes time

00:47:38.179 --> 00:47:40.900
and it takes just deconstructing. And then you

00:47:40.900 --> 00:47:42.780
can take a lot of these scientific innovations

00:47:42.780 --> 00:47:45.059
that we're going to get to and then level up,

00:47:45.099 --> 00:47:47.340
absolutely. But we've got to tear down the things

00:47:47.340 --> 00:47:49.539
that are destroying us first before we can then

00:47:49.539 --> 00:47:53.420
really forge performance. So it would be such

00:47:53.420 --> 00:47:55.659
a short... message i'm actually working on a

00:47:55.659 --> 00:47:58.139
tv show at the moment from from a book i wrote

00:47:58.139 --> 00:48:00.179
and that's going to be infused in one of the

00:48:00.179 --> 00:48:02.699
the elements of that because if you could just

00:48:02.699 --> 00:48:04.960
present some of these basic principles to the

00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:07.420
masses and they went well i could do that today

00:48:07.420 --> 00:48:11.500
that's exactly it like it's not about oh how

00:48:11.500 --> 00:48:13.800
do we add to all the things to make you healthier

00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:16.679
so how do we remove most of these things to make

00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:20.179
you healthier no i mean we talk about you know

00:48:20.179 --> 00:48:23.340
one of the core things that we talk with people

00:48:23.340 --> 00:48:25.659
about is detoxing right so everybody's talking

00:48:25.659 --> 00:48:27.900
about what can you put in but there are simple

00:48:27.900 --> 00:48:30.420
things like just sweating you know doing the

00:48:30.420 --> 00:48:32.539
doing the sauna and getting some binders and

00:48:32.539 --> 00:48:36.159
getting all the garbage out of you right so as

00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:39.800
you mentioned you know removing uh is just as

00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:42.079
important if not more important if you look at

00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:43.559
a you know there's a lot of those videos where

00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:45.659
people fill the glasses of water and your glass

00:48:45.659 --> 00:48:47.619
of water can only take so much if that glass

00:48:47.619 --> 00:48:49.639
is full and you're pouring a bunch of expensive

00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:52.190
supplements that are gonna heal you, it doesn't

00:48:52.190 --> 00:48:54.369
matter. That stuff's just getting clogged up

00:48:54.369 --> 00:48:57.469
because you're, because you're full. So, you

00:48:57.469 --> 00:48:59.690
know, we're, we're big proponents and fully agree

00:48:59.690 --> 00:49:02.889
on the whole, you know, less is more. And even

00:49:02.889 --> 00:49:04.670
when we get into our equipment and talk about

00:49:04.670 --> 00:49:07.150
that, right. I mean, these, for some, for some,

00:49:07.230 --> 00:49:09.670
their life, you know, it's the only option, but

00:49:09.670 --> 00:49:13.090
for others, they are streamlined options or ways

00:49:13.090 --> 00:49:16.989
to be more efficient with your time spent. But,

00:49:17.030 --> 00:49:18.909
you know, you're talking about red light while

00:49:18.909 --> 00:49:20.980
you're talking about the sun. Right. I mean,

00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:22.940
when we're talking about when we get into the

00:49:22.940 --> 00:49:26.280
oxygen, you know, you can do to certain levels,

00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:29.320
you can breathe and get different breath work

00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:33.199
going. Right. So to your point, you know, that

00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:35.079
we're in an interesting time, too, where people

00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:37.320
kind of overcomplicate some things. You joked

00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:39.579
about the influencer that gets up and does his

00:49:39.579 --> 00:49:41.500
ice bath and his cold plunge and then has his

00:49:41.500 --> 00:49:44.280
chlorella drink mixed with. Right. And, you know,

00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:47.880
that's a great option. But I think. I think,

00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:50.000
and again, we get into so much, there's so much

00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:52.239
psychological to it too. Like, it's almost like,

00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:54.519
well, maybe if we could make it seem overwhelming,

00:49:54.739 --> 00:49:57.019
then people won't even worry about their health.

00:49:57.389 --> 00:49:59.690
Because no way do I have time to do those 10

00:49:59.690 --> 00:50:01.429
things and get all those supplements. You know

00:50:01.429 --> 00:50:03.670
what? I'm just going to deal with it and it is

00:50:03.670 --> 00:50:06.429
what it is. Or even, you know, the argument for

00:50:06.429 --> 00:50:08.570
a lot has always been like, well, you know, I

00:50:08.570 --> 00:50:11.130
grew up drinking from the water hose. That should

00:50:11.130 --> 00:50:13.550
be fine. Well, it's not the same water hose anymore,

00:50:13.789 --> 00:50:16.409
right? I mean, it is the same water hose. It's

00:50:16.409 --> 00:50:18.909
literally the same exact one, only the metals

00:50:18.909 --> 00:50:20.989
and everything have built up in that hose now

00:50:20.989 --> 00:50:24.929
to where you're actually ingesting that. So it's

00:50:24.929 --> 00:50:29.059
a different world. But I love your point of what

00:50:29.059 --> 00:50:31.800
can we remove and how can we make this simpler

00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:36.440
for people to be able to digest and move forward.

00:50:37.860 --> 00:50:39.860
Absolutely. I know when I see the influence getting

00:50:39.860 --> 00:50:41.639
up at 4 .30, you're like, you know what the best

00:50:41.639 --> 00:50:45.119
life hack is? Get up at 8 .30. You cannot out

00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:48.039
eat the amount of sleep that you need. So let's

00:50:48.039 --> 00:50:51.500
just stop that bullshit. All right. Well, then

00:50:51.500 --> 00:50:54.780
moving on to the studio then. So Trip, what...

00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:58.699
What were the modalities that you felt most important

00:50:58.699 --> 00:51:03.820
to put within the four walls? Well, our process

00:51:03.820 --> 00:51:08.559
always starts off with a priming series, which

00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:13.199
is typically a product called Centropix Cloud.

00:51:13.619 --> 00:51:17.400
And a lot of people have heard of PEMF, pulse

00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:21.880
electromagnetic frequency or field therapy. This

00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:26.360
particular low frequency device is PEMA, molecular

00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:30.480
activation. And so for this first priming part,

00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:34.960
before we even get into the core of the protocol,

00:51:35.340 --> 00:51:38.599
we are getting into a place where we can start

00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:41.539
to downregulate the nerve. nervous system, start

00:51:41.539 --> 00:51:45.460
to charge the cells, get the blood moving. And

00:51:45.460 --> 00:51:48.320
it's a place where we can really get into getting

00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:51.059
the mindset because a lot of people are coming

00:51:51.059 --> 00:51:54.829
in with a lot of stress in their lives. holding

00:51:54.829 --> 00:51:57.869
on to that, to be able to get a couple deep breaths,

00:51:58.170 --> 00:52:01.949
let go of the stress, the trauma, the tension

00:52:01.949 --> 00:52:05.170
on some exhales, and to start to downregulate

00:52:05.170 --> 00:52:07.050
the nervous system is one of the best things

00:52:07.050 --> 00:52:09.130
to get them out of that fight or flight process.

00:52:09.510 --> 00:52:11.949
So at the beginning part, we always prime the

00:52:11.949 --> 00:52:16.389
body with the PEMF. A lot of times... What will

00:52:16.389 --> 00:52:20.829
even magnify that is we'll add a heat, potentially

00:52:20.829 --> 00:52:25.050
through a photobiomodulation to add that red

00:52:25.050 --> 00:52:27.369
light, that charge, and even to warm the body

00:52:27.369 --> 00:52:32.010
up. The whole process is preparing it for step

00:52:32.010 --> 00:52:35.750
two, which is our oxygenation. Most people, when

00:52:35.750 --> 00:52:38.829
you think of oxygen therapy, you think of hyperbaric

00:52:38.829 --> 00:52:42.949
chambers, 90%, 100 % oxygen just being pressurized

00:52:42.949 --> 00:52:47.300
in a tube into the body. it's actually uh the

00:52:47.300 --> 00:52:49.940
opposite the body and cells can only absorb so

00:52:49.940 --> 00:52:53.460
much oxygen at a time and especially when you're

00:52:53.460 --> 00:52:56.099
someone who's not healthy you know that your

00:52:56.099 --> 00:52:57.960
energy is not flowing you're not getting the

00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:00.820
blood to your toes your fingertips your brain

00:53:00.820 --> 00:53:04.059
as efficiently so we need to create a demand

00:53:04.059 --> 00:53:07.400
to absorb more oxygen and that's where the science

00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:09.739
and studies behind breathing high altitude oxygen

00:53:09.739 --> 00:53:14.130
you know instead of 90 percent 100 percent 10%,

00:53:14.130 --> 00:53:16.909
you know, somewhere between eight and 14 % stimulating

00:53:16.909 --> 00:53:23.610
high altitude, high altitude environments. And

00:53:23.610 --> 00:53:25.630
so when you're doing that, you're creating a

00:53:25.630 --> 00:53:28.369
fight or flight in the body. And when that's

00:53:28.369 --> 00:53:31.090
happening, you're increasing red blood cells

00:53:31.090 --> 00:53:33.699
and a big part of it. Two is you're increasing

00:53:33.699 --> 00:53:36.500
oxygen demand in your tissue, and that's brain

00:53:36.500 --> 00:53:39.559
tissue as well. So you create that demand by

00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:41.599
doing specific breath work, breathing through

00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:45.800
a mask, high -altitude oxygen. Then after we

00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:50.559
drop you in the hypoxia, which is 92%, 93 % oxygen,

00:53:51.019 --> 00:53:53.420
your body starts to go through that fight or

00:53:53.420 --> 00:53:57.159
flight, screaming for oxygen, saying basically,

00:53:57.219 --> 00:53:59.559
if you give me oxygen right now, I'll absorb

00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:03.710
it much more than I would regularly. So. when

00:54:03.710 --> 00:54:06.849
that time is right, then we contrast the oxygen

00:54:06.849 --> 00:54:10.329
to that hyperbaric recovery style. And it just

00:54:10.329 --> 00:54:13.510
stimulates and soaks into the body far more efficiently.

00:54:13.809 --> 00:54:16.449
And as I talked about earlier, that was where

00:54:16.449 --> 00:54:19.969
I had my aha moment was when you're starting

00:54:19.969 --> 00:54:22.630
to flood the body with oxygen after depriving

00:54:22.630 --> 00:54:25.929
it, creating that demand for oxygen in your tissue,

00:54:26.030 --> 00:54:29.650
brain tissue as well. I literally felt that blood

00:54:29.650 --> 00:54:32.449
pumping through my brain and dull parts that

00:54:33.150 --> 00:54:35.969
haven't had that blood or oxygen in years and

00:54:35.969 --> 00:54:39.269
maybe ever uh flooding through there and it literally

00:54:39.269 --> 00:54:42.269
gave me that aha blood through you know through

00:54:42.269 --> 00:54:45.130
the pineal gland your third your third eye and

00:54:45.130 --> 00:54:47.429
ever since then i just felt that awareness that

00:54:47.429 --> 00:54:50.190
connection you know even on a spiritual connection

00:54:50.190 --> 00:54:53.150
feeling that higher power so and then the third

00:54:53.150 --> 00:54:56.210
part about the high altitude oxygen you're getting

00:54:56.210 --> 00:54:58.719
it not only are you healing the body, helping

00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:02.059
the brain tissue recover, but you're also getting

00:55:02.059 --> 00:55:05.219
to elite athletic performance. Through this process,

00:55:05.260 --> 00:55:08.920
we're stimulating EPO or erythropoietin, and

00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:11.139
that is legal blood doping. That's what Lance

00:55:11.139 --> 00:55:14.179
Armstrong and a lot of the boys did in the Tour

00:55:14.179 --> 00:55:17.340
de France synthetically and illegally to help

00:55:17.340 --> 00:55:20.300
them maximize their athletic performance. We're

00:55:20.300 --> 00:55:23.000
doing that just by breathing high -altitude oxygen

00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:27.880
for periods of time. So we are improving the

00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:32.260
blood. We are doing that by alkalining the blood.

00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:37.460
We are creating an oxygen demand for... in the

00:55:37.460 --> 00:55:40.000
tissue, brain tissue, but then athletic performance

00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:42.699
as well. So once we get all the blood flowing,

00:55:42.860 --> 00:55:45.659
we get the body primed to the oxygen, then we

00:55:45.659 --> 00:55:48.539
get into the activation stages. And depending

00:55:48.539 --> 00:55:52.219
on if you're an elite athlete or, say, a concussion

00:55:52.219 --> 00:55:55.840
patient, we are tailoring these experiences different

00:55:55.840 --> 00:55:58.880
and being able to adjust that. So a lot of the

00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:00.800
times, especially, say, we have a concussion

00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:03.579
patient, after we've primed the body, got the

00:56:03.579 --> 00:56:06.039
blood flowing with the oxygen, everything in

00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:08.780
the brain. Then we're taking it over to a device

00:56:08.780 --> 00:56:11.500
like vestibular training, where we're spinning

00:56:11.500 --> 00:56:14.099
the body, working with the cochlear part of the

00:56:14.099 --> 00:56:18.300
ear, the brain, helping rewire the senses. And

00:56:18.300 --> 00:56:21.139
we're getting into not only stuff from concussions,

00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:25.659
post -surgery anesthesia dullness, vertigo, but

00:56:25.659 --> 00:56:29.780
then even into serious brain injuries or issues

00:56:29.780 --> 00:56:34.579
like dementia, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's disease.

00:56:34.889 --> 00:56:38.090
So it's like once you prime the body, get it,

00:56:38.110 --> 00:56:40.070
get the blood flowing, literally get the voltage

00:56:40.070 --> 00:56:43.869
and the energy in the body, then we're manipulating

00:56:43.869 --> 00:56:47.610
it with stuff like spinning. You know, we also

00:56:47.610 --> 00:56:50.710
have the ability to add in micro impact vibration

00:56:50.710 --> 00:56:54.909
instead of your typical shake plate. We are adding

00:56:54.909 --> 00:56:59.710
very strategic, gentle healing vibration into

00:56:59.710 --> 00:57:01.869
the body. A lot of the times you do the shake

00:57:01.869 --> 00:57:04.510
plates, someone like myself with brain. injuries,

00:57:04.590 --> 00:57:08.949
way too aggressive, not only in the brain, shaking

00:57:08.949 --> 00:57:10.929
that around, but then you got to think about

00:57:10.929 --> 00:57:13.530
what's going on inside your body, your bones,

00:57:13.690 --> 00:57:16.630
even inside your bones is that's where the liquid,

00:57:16.710 --> 00:57:19.449
your metabolic tissue is. So it's like, are you

00:57:19.449 --> 00:57:22.110
sending a healing frequency into your body? You

00:57:22.110 --> 00:57:25.050
know, talking like that Nikola Tesla energy frequency

00:57:25.050 --> 00:57:28.190
vibration, or are you sending something that's

00:57:28.190 --> 00:57:32.230
aggravating your soft tissue? bones it was just

00:57:32.230 --> 00:57:36.389
your brain and that's where we come into all

00:57:36.389 --> 00:57:40.909
this is we have biohacked we've gone through

00:57:40.909 --> 00:57:43.369
and we've hacked the system we've tried this

00:57:43.369 --> 00:57:47.119
that in different orders but now we're optimizing

00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:50.179
the flow of these protocols because we have that

00:57:50.179 --> 00:57:54.400
experience the data to show and that's a big

00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:56.019
part of what we're doing is when you bring all

00:57:56.019 --> 00:57:59.260
these white paper studied modalities together

00:57:59.260 --> 00:58:02.539
that when you put them in the correct order and

00:58:02.539 --> 00:58:08.730
you do them with with strategy Then they work

00:58:08.730 --> 00:58:11.190
not only quicker, but then, you know, it gets

00:58:11.190 --> 00:58:12.769
you in and out because just like Jason said,

00:58:12.849 --> 00:58:15.909
there's only so much time in the day. If you

00:58:15.909 --> 00:58:18.829
overwhelm people, then they can't get it done.

00:58:18.969 --> 00:58:22.090
So to get that in a very efficient timeframe,

00:58:22.469 --> 00:58:27.050
but then also deliver the most healing that you

00:58:27.050 --> 00:58:32.210
can in that session to tailor towards that client

00:58:32.210 --> 00:58:36.019
is one of the best things that we can do. So

00:58:36.019 --> 00:58:38.380
I could probably keep going on and on. This would

00:58:38.380 --> 00:58:40.940
be a great time for Jason to fill in the gaps.

00:58:41.159 --> 00:58:44.139
But a lot of those are our core modalities and

00:58:44.139 --> 00:58:47.639
are not only have helped me, but in real time

00:58:47.639 --> 00:58:51.059
stuff like vestibular. Now that with concussions

00:58:51.059 --> 00:58:53.920
that I'm starting to spin myself and I'm not

00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:56.500
afraid of it anymore, feeling that agitation,

00:58:56.579 --> 00:59:00.340
it's actually energizing. It's just changing

00:59:00.340 --> 00:59:07.789
my day to day. Tripp, you nailed it with a few.

00:59:07.809 --> 00:59:09.849
And as Tripp had mentioned, right, it can go

00:59:09.849 --> 00:59:13.010
further when it comes to the individual, what

00:59:13.010 --> 00:59:15.530
they're looking at, but also a core one before

00:59:15.530 --> 00:59:18.309
we go into those would be red light. And so getting

00:59:18.309 --> 00:59:21.230
into the different hertz of the red light. So

00:59:21.230 --> 00:59:23.769
you see right behind me, depending on if they're

00:59:23.769 --> 00:59:26.210
spinning in red light or vibrating in red light.

00:59:27.369 --> 00:59:30.210
I mean, there's growing numbers of studies on

00:59:30.210 --> 00:59:33.980
everything from skin to vision. And then of course

00:59:33.980 --> 00:59:37.519
brain. And so whether it's just putting it at

00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:41.280
a red light and just keeping it on or getting

00:59:41.280 --> 00:59:43.860
into different frequencies like a 10 hertz or

00:59:43.860 --> 00:59:46.820
a 20 hertz or even 40 hertz where they're talking

00:59:46.820 --> 00:59:48.900
about where it's knocking the plaque off of the

00:59:48.900 --> 00:59:51.340
brain. Again, as Trip had mentioned, it's specific

00:59:51.340 --> 00:59:55.219
to the individual. But those are the core modalities

00:59:55.219 --> 00:59:58.059
that would be included. And then with all of

00:59:58.059 --> 01:00:01.340
that, everything, we are very aware of the environment.

01:00:01.619 --> 01:00:06.320
So we have audio playing, depending on the individual,

01:00:06.420 --> 01:00:09.079
that is helping downregulate that nervous system

01:00:09.079 --> 01:00:11.559
at the beginning, and then also starting to help

01:00:11.559 --> 01:00:14.400
upregulate it in a controlled fashion when they're

01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:17.119
getting into more of an athletic type activity.

01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:21.539
Same thing with smells. We get into... like essential

01:00:21.539 --> 01:00:25.920
oils, for example, lavender, something that's

01:00:25.920 --> 01:00:28.699
going to help them downregulate, not putting

01:00:28.699 --> 01:00:31.639
them into a sleep state. But again, with all

01:00:31.639 --> 01:00:34.579
of this, we're teaching the body to be calm in

01:00:34.579 --> 01:00:38.380
chaos. That's where a lot of this nervous system

01:00:38.380 --> 01:00:41.940
regulation can occur. And so we're very aware

01:00:41.940 --> 01:00:44.840
of that. And then there's also intention setting

01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:48.260
that set the tone in the beginning with the priming

01:00:48.260 --> 01:00:50.500
where we're talking to the individual. The individual

01:00:50.500 --> 01:00:53.400
is literally talking to their body. And I know

01:00:53.400 --> 01:00:55.039
some people can listen to this and think it's

01:00:55.039 --> 01:00:57.400
woo woo. But the science and studies are catching

01:00:57.400 --> 01:01:00.960
up, showing that that that connection, that mind

01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:04.199
body connection has profound impacts. I mean,

01:01:04.219 --> 01:01:06.539
even if you get into things like Germanic new

01:01:06.539 --> 01:01:09.800
science. or Dr. Sarno, where they talk about

01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:12.679
emotions are what can cause things like cancer.

01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:18.139
So there's a lot of impact. And as Tripp had

01:01:18.139 --> 01:01:19.699
mentioned, as soon as we get someone in, we want

01:01:19.699 --> 01:01:21.960
to get them to forget about the outside. That

01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:25.940
outside world is always... I mean, your phone's

01:01:25.940 --> 01:01:28.420
right there, your thoughts. As soon as you come

01:01:28.420 --> 01:01:30.800
in, you may be here physically, but you're thinking

01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:32.800
of, oh, what bills do I have to pay? Or, man,

01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:34.460
right after this, I got to go get dinner to make

01:01:34.460 --> 01:01:37.380
sure that everyone's got something to eat. And

01:01:37.380 --> 01:01:40.800
so we're very aware of the environment that we're

01:01:40.800 --> 01:01:46.630
bringing the individual or group into. Well,

01:01:46.650 --> 01:01:49.909
you guys gave me the full gamut and Sheila was

01:01:49.909 --> 01:01:52.250
there that day. So we did the vestibular training

01:01:52.250 --> 01:01:54.690
as well. Absolutely amazing. My wife was there

01:01:54.690 --> 01:01:56.349
too. So it's pretty cool watching her go through

01:01:56.349 --> 01:02:01.230
it. But doing the altitude training, and it's

01:02:01.230 --> 01:02:02.789
funny because if you think a few years ago, those

01:02:02.789 --> 01:02:04.610
masks came out and everyone called them altitude

01:02:04.610 --> 01:02:07.389
training masks and all they were were small straws

01:02:07.389 --> 01:02:10.550
that you were breathing through. Same exact resistance

01:02:10.550 --> 01:02:14.460
training is what it was. But it really was interesting

01:02:14.460 --> 01:02:17.440
because it makes so much sense. And I felt that

01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:19.860
kind of panic response when you lower the oxygen

01:02:19.860 --> 01:02:21.679
concentration because you're on the bike, so

01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:25.360
you're going through exertion as well. And you

01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:28.099
could feel your body just wanting to receive

01:02:28.099 --> 01:02:30.900
that high concentration oxygen again. So that

01:02:30.900 --> 01:02:33.679
makes so much sense to me, as does the aggressive

01:02:33.679 --> 01:02:39.360
shake plate versus the tuned vibrations and the

01:02:39.360 --> 01:02:44.050
IV light. Talk to me. I mean, all those, like

01:02:44.050 --> 01:02:47.250
you said, you talked about everything from neurodegenerative

01:02:47.250 --> 01:02:54.389
diseases all the way through to athletic performance.

01:02:54.590 --> 01:02:56.989
So talk to me about the kind of people that you

01:02:56.989 --> 01:02:59.750
are getting walking through the doors on the

01:02:59.750 --> 01:03:02.969
healing level as well as the elite performance

01:03:02.969 --> 01:03:12.000
level. We do get a good number of the simple

01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:15.460
one is elite athletes looking to run a faster

01:03:15.460 --> 01:03:18.260
mile or do a quicker marathon, right? Everyone

01:03:18.260 --> 01:03:22.000
looks at oxygen. And so initially when they see

01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:24.239
that, they've heard some things. And so we get

01:03:24.239 --> 01:03:27.719
a good number of people that are looking to run

01:03:27.719 --> 01:03:34.159
faster. Then it's been growing in the aging population.

01:03:35.590 --> 01:03:39.730
with systems such as the vestibular, where you're

01:03:39.730 --> 01:03:43.670
not only getting into that cognition challenge

01:03:43.670 --> 01:03:48.130
of Alzheimer's or dementia, but balance is a

01:03:48.130 --> 01:03:50.130
huge piece. And especially being down here in

01:03:50.130 --> 01:03:53.449
Florida, we do have quite a large aging population

01:03:53.449 --> 01:03:58.739
and falling over. is a big issue. And so between

01:03:58.739 --> 01:04:03.159
the vestibular for the balance and for the brain,

01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:06.139
and then even the micro impact getting into that

01:04:06.139 --> 01:04:09.639
for the bone health and being able to strengthen

01:04:09.639 --> 01:04:13.039
those bones. And so we do have a good range in

01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:16.440
that. We have a good amount of people that are

01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:20.539
coming to detox. Again, as Tripp had mentioned,

01:04:20.579 --> 01:04:23.639
that oxygen going through the body is not just

01:04:24.460 --> 01:04:26.760
helping with the lungs and helping with the brain,

01:04:26.840 --> 01:04:28.960
but that's flushing out toxins as well. It's

01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:31.320
going deep into that tissue. Their clients will

01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:34.179
have to give binders to after they do that to

01:04:34.179 --> 01:04:36.559
make sure it can mop up any toxins that are kicked

01:04:36.559 --> 01:04:39.280
out. Or we have our lymphatic drainage suit,

01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:42.920
which also gets big into moving the toxins out.

01:04:44.059 --> 01:04:48.079
And we've had a growing number of kids coming

01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:53.409
in, whether it's mental health challenges that

01:04:53.409 --> 01:04:57.650
are going on because Sheila's vestibular has

01:04:57.650 --> 01:05:01.090
been doing some amazing work with ADHD and autism.

01:05:01.750 --> 01:05:04.590
But then also, again, getting into the oxygen

01:05:04.590 --> 01:05:09.090
and being able to work with kids that are told

01:05:09.090 --> 01:05:12.570
that they're, you know, they're too wild or they've

01:05:12.570 --> 01:05:14.369
got too much energy and they can't sit still

01:05:14.369 --> 01:05:16.880
and they can't focus. Well, a lot of that comes

01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:19.639
from whether it's concussion issues, as Trip

01:05:19.639 --> 01:05:21.480
had mentioned, growing up and playing sports

01:05:21.480 --> 01:05:25.000
and it not being addressed, but then also getting

01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:29.039
into gut issues and different bacteria. And believe

01:05:29.039 --> 01:05:31.500
it or not, they're even getting into vision and

01:05:31.500 --> 01:05:38.119
how that is causing kids to be able to operate

01:05:38.119 --> 01:05:41.219
properly, right? If their vision is impaired

01:05:41.219 --> 01:05:43.780
and the brain is not getting the proper signaling,

01:05:44.019 --> 01:05:46.730
then they've... then there's chances that there

01:05:46.730 --> 01:05:49.610
are going to be some type of mental challenges

01:05:49.610 --> 01:05:53.530
or may seem like they're hyperactive. So we're

01:05:53.530 --> 01:05:56.110
getting the full range, and that's why people

01:05:56.110 --> 01:05:59.289
will ask us, you know, what clients do you work

01:05:59.289 --> 01:06:03.489
with? And it really is that complete package.

01:06:03.570 --> 01:06:05.929
And then even, you know, at med spas that we'll

01:06:05.929 --> 01:06:10.309
be positioned at for skin and skin health, that's,

01:06:10.309 --> 01:06:13.369
again, a detox and lymphatic drainage situation.

01:06:14.159 --> 01:06:18.320
And so aesthetic -wise, this protocol and this

01:06:18.320 --> 01:06:22.800
equipment, we've worked with many in that space

01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:26.360
as well. So it really is a wide range. It's why

01:06:26.360 --> 01:06:30.719
we have created the protocol we have. And sometimes

01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:32.679
we pull pieces out depending on the individual,

01:06:32.860 --> 01:06:38.079
but it's all encompassing. Which lymphatic suit

01:06:38.079 --> 01:06:41.059
do you have? It's not Flopresso, is it? It's

01:06:41.059 --> 01:06:44.840
not Flopresso. um we have we have a more economical

01:06:44.840 --> 01:06:48.920
version flowpresso is amazing um but yes the

01:06:48.920 --> 01:06:51.440
the price point and i'm sure they have their

01:06:51.440 --> 01:06:53.860
reasons but the price point is a little higher

01:06:53.860 --> 01:06:56.519
so we don't have that one right now okay i had

01:06:56.519 --> 01:06:58.679
the founder you're familiar with yeah Yeah, she

01:06:58.679 --> 01:07:00.460
was on the show for a couple of years ago now.

01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:02.579
I got to try that. It's the thing, I get to be

01:07:02.579 --> 01:07:04.760
a guinea pig from all these guests that I have

01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:07.119
on the show. But yeah, it was interesting too.

01:07:07.300 --> 01:07:10.420
I mean, my profession especially, the detox element

01:07:10.420 --> 01:07:13.760
obviously is extremely important. I mean, they

01:07:13.760 --> 01:07:17.300
don't talk about it enough. Again, kids, right?

01:07:17.420 --> 01:07:19.579
When they have, if you've got toxins in your

01:07:19.579 --> 01:07:21.960
body, you've got metals or you've got parasites

01:07:21.960 --> 01:07:24.320
that are telling the brain, messing with the

01:07:24.320 --> 01:07:27.449
signal of the brain or... The gut microbiome

01:07:27.449 --> 01:07:31.510
is telling the brain the wrong thing. It's as

01:07:31.510 --> 01:07:34.050
simple as detox, or not as simple as, but starting

01:07:34.050 --> 01:07:36.969
with the detox is a big piece. Same thing with

01:07:36.969 --> 01:07:39.150
athletic performance, right? You better believe

01:07:39.150 --> 01:07:42.010
that your signaling in your body is not operating

01:07:42.010 --> 01:07:46.530
optimally if you've never detoxed. Absolutely.

01:07:46.789 --> 01:07:49.289
One more thing. When I was there and I got to

01:07:49.289 --> 01:07:51.630
meet your father and we were talking about NuCalm,

01:07:52.269 --> 01:07:54.190
A lot of people haven't heard of New Calm. I

01:07:54.190 --> 01:07:56.269
would argue it's one of the technologies every

01:07:56.269 --> 01:07:58.809
single person needs to have on their phone. Talk

01:07:58.809 --> 01:08:00.969
to me about that technology through your eyes.

01:08:02.110 --> 01:08:05.769
So what I love is I would use the nap program

01:08:05.769 --> 01:08:09.269
is one of my go -to regular programs because

01:08:09.269 --> 01:08:14.170
it's allowing me to get that rest and recovery

01:08:14.170 --> 01:08:18.460
that I don't always get. As you mentioned before,

01:08:18.659 --> 01:08:21.100
getting up at 8 .30, there's a great life hack

01:08:21.100 --> 01:08:23.739
for you because you're getting sleep. Your body

01:08:23.739 --> 01:08:26.279
is going through that whole glymphatic system

01:08:26.279 --> 01:08:31.779
detox process. What I love about it is being

01:08:31.779 --> 01:08:36.979
able to go to a space, go into my car, and just

01:08:36.979 --> 01:08:40.619
turn it on and take a nap. It's bringing me through

01:08:40.619 --> 01:08:43.180
that process without anything else other than

01:08:43.180 --> 01:08:45.819
just putting headphones on. And then that same

01:08:45.819 --> 01:08:49.079
goes for a workout, right? And being able to

01:08:49.079 --> 01:08:51.500
get the body amped up and get the adrenaline

01:08:51.500 --> 01:08:57.159
going and it's all through sound. And so I love,

01:08:57.159 --> 01:09:02.159
you know, just the concept of being able to listen

01:09:02.159 --> 01:09:05.119
to something and it alter your state. And it's

01:09:05.119 --> 01:09:07.460
very efficient, something you can carry with

01:09:07.460 --> 01:09:13.569
you anywhere. Yeah. I mean, I can't recommend

01:09:13.569 --> 01:09:15.569
it enough. It's one of those number one tools

01:09:15.569 --> 01:09:20.029
that everyone should have. 100%. Well, I want

01:09:20.029 --> 01:09:22.590
to get to St. Pete Calisthenics. It's a really

01:09:22.590 --> 01:09:24.430
interesting gym that you're embedded in. But

01:09:24.430 --> 01:09:27.569
one last area, Tripp, you talked about obviously

01:09:27.569 --> 01:09:31.750
your concussions when you were younger, some

01:09:31.750 --> 01:09:34.850
of the journey that you've been through. What

01:09:34.850 --> 01:09:38.310
are you seeing now on the back end of the creation

01:09:38.310 --> 01:09:40.609
of your own studio and these modalities that

01:09:40.609 --> 01:09:43.710
you've been talking about today? Once again,

01:09:43.869 --> 01:09:48.149
I created my reality. I saw that I was having

01:09:48.149 --> 01:09:51.590
issues. I saw that I wasn't living life to...

01:09:52.460 --> 01:09:56.560
the to the fullest, I knew I could be a better

01:09:56.560 --> 01:09:59.939
version of myself. And I took the action. And

01:09:59.939 --> 01:10:03.479
that's something every day is changing. And you

01:10:03.479 --> 01:10:05.840
know, it's a lot of struggles being an entrepreneur,

01:10:06.199 --> 01:10:09.380
a lot of stress. And you know, it could be far

01:10:09.380 --> 01:10:11.460
easier for me to go out and just work a real

01:10:11.460 --> 01:10:14.939
job, be a manager of whatever business out there.

01:10:15.140 --> 01:10:20.159
But I I chose and I believe I was chosen to do

01:10:20.159 --> 01:10:23.979
something better in my life and to not only,

01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:27.020
you know, be the best version of myself, help

01:10:27.020 --> 01:10:30.140
my family and friends around me, but then monetize

01:10:30.140 --> 01:10:33.239
and duplicate this business to be able to help,

01:10:33.340 --> 01:10:37.020
you know, to help whoever needs it around the

01:10:37.020 --> 01:10:39.319
world. And a big part of like we talked about

01:10:39.319 --> 01:10:44.180
is the prevention and be great for, you know,

01:10:44.180 --> 01:10:48.789
when I see. younger children or people who are

01:10:48.789 --> 01:10:51.750
in their teenage years to be able for them to

01:10:51.750 --> 01:10:54.930
not have to go through the issues that I did

01:10:54.930 --> 01:10:57.550
through my 20s, not to have to waste all those

01:10:57.550 --> 01:11:01.369
years, which, you know, I looking back, they

01:11:01.369 --> 01:11:04.329
were a great life lesson. But in hindsight, man,

01:11:04.449 --> 01:11:06.710
what I would do to have those years back. And

01:11:06.710 --> 01:11:09.989
that's something that I can help share. And,

01:11:09.989 --> 01:11:13.180
you know. give that awareness and education so

01:11:13.180 --> 01:11:16.000
people don't have to go through and do this again.

01:11:16.239 --> 01:11:20.880
And this is the generational curse that's being

01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:24.859
broken. While you mention that, this is something

01:11:24.859 --> 01:11:28.399
I talk about frequently. I think it's not a conversation

01:11:28.399 --> 01:11:31.140
that I hear. I think it's starting to now, but

01:11:31.140 --> 01:11:33.640
I always preface this with this story. When I

01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:37.460
first came to the States, After a couple of years,

01:11:37.579 --> 01:11:39.779
I started realizing that I kept hearing these

01:11:39.779 --> 01:11:42.859
Uncle Rico stories, like these men that were

01:11:42.859 --> 01:11:45.640
now either side of 30, very deconditioned. And

01:11:45.640 --> 01:11:47.340
they would tell me that they were destined to

01:11:47.340 --> 01:11:49.720
be in the NFL, the major leagues, whatever it

01:11:49.720 --> 01:11:52.739
was, had it not been for their ACL, their labrum,

01:11:52.800 --> 01:11:57.220
their insert injury here. And it was really strange

01:11:57.220 --> 01:11:58.920
to me. I was like, what the hell are they doing?

01:11:59.520 --> 01:12:01.739
in these schools and colleges that are breaking

01:12:01.739 --> 01:12:03.819
children. And then you live here a little bit

01:12:03.819 --> 01:12:05.880
longer and you see the pedestal that high school

01:12:05.880 --> 01:12:08.779
and college sports have put on. And in these

01:12:08.779 --> 01:12:10.659
conversations then with these high -level athletes

01:12:10.659 --> 01:12:13.239
and high -level coaches, you start asking them,

01:12:13.380 --> 01:12:21.800
is the line blurred between... forging performance

01:12:21.800 --> 01:12:25.720
through these youth athletes and actually acknowledging

01:12:25.720 --> 01:12:28.600
their wellness and their longevity. And I think

01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:30.399
in a lot of places it has been. And obviously

01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:32.880
when we're talking about head trauma. in hockey

01:12:32.880 --> 01:12:34.579
and football and martial arts, which I did my

01:12:34.579 --> 01:12:38.020
whole life. You know, that is an important conversation

01:12:38.020 --> 01:12:39.840
because as you just said, I wish I could get

01:12:39.840 --> 01:12:41.800
those years back. Well, we get to get those years

01:12:41.800 --> 01:12:43.859
back for the next generation if we have the right

01:12:43.859 --> 01:12:46.420
conversations. Because I mean, for example, I'm

01:12:46.420 --> 01:12:48.800
not saying everyone goes to flag football, but

01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:52.090
athletically flag football is. equally as good,

01:12:52.109 --> 01:12:54.289
if not better than tackle football, if you actually

01:12:54.289 --> 01:12:56.430
look at the game itself. So what are ways that

01:12:56.430 --> 01:12:58.130
we can tweak these sports? A lot of the martial

01:12:58.130 --> 01:13:00.069
artists, you know, they're not having these heavy

01:13:00.069 --> 01:13:02.710
sparring. I've trained with shoot box for about

01:13:02.710 --> 01:13:05.649
a year and I don't know what my half, my brain's

01:13:05.649 --> 01:13:07.409
probably still on the dojo floor as we speak.

01:13:07.970 --> 01:13:10.090
It was just fight club, you know, and I know

01:13:10.090 --> 01:13:11.590
it's not supposed to talk about it, but it was.

01:13:12.109 --> 01:13:14.430
So, you know, now we're evolving and we're learning

01:13:14.430 --> 01:13:16.229
and we're protecting the next level of youth

01:13:16.229 --> 01:13:20.289
athletes. So with that kind of being said. What

01:13:20.289 --> 01:13:24.550
is your perspective on the performance of our

01:13:24.550 --> 01:13:27.449
young athletes versus the wellness and longevity

01:13:27.449 --> 01:13:32.510
and that balance between the two? I love football.

01:13:33.270 --> 01:13:36.250
Contact football is one of the greatest games,

01:13:36.369 --> 01:13:42.170
but it's too much. There'll be a lot of changes

01:13:42.170 --> 01:13:46.159
made, especially at a younger level. You can't

01:13:46.159 --> 01:13:49.279
be putting 14 -year -old kids, 15 -year -old

01:13:49.279 --> 01:13:52.300
kids in high school football against 18 -year

01:13:52.300 --> 01:13:56.180
-old, 200 -pound men. I mean, I was returning

01:13:56.180 --> 01:14:00.479
kickoffs as a 15 -year -old sophomore, and it

01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:03.239
was one of the most dangerous things I've ever

01:14:03.239 --> 01:14:06.819
done in my life. I look back, and I'm proud that

01:14:06.819 --> 01:14:10.069
I did it, but it's like... Something needs to

01:14:10.069 --> 01:14:13.930
change. And honestly, as I realized I wasn't

01:14:13.930 --> 01:14:16.170
going to play at a high level of college football

01:14:16.170 --> 01:14:21.529
after the concussions and the injuries, flag

01:14:21.529 --> 01:14:25.149
football was probably the best sport I've ever

01:14:25.149 --> 01:14:27.850
played. The way that I could go across the middle

01:14:27.850 --> 01:14:32.350
of the field on a slant or on a post and know

01:14:32.350 --> 01:14:34.810
that I just was safe and I wasn't going to get

01:14:34.810 --> 01:14:38.319
destroyed by the safety. Or even just playing

01:14:38.319 --> 01:14:41.500
it on a rugby level, to add that extra bit of

01:14:41.500 --> 01:14:46.119
lateral, the trick plays, was so much safer and

01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:51.479
better to play than a whole game full of linemen.

01:14:51.739 --> 01:14:54.720
Just way too much behind that. I mean, yeah,

01:14:54.779 --> 01:14:57.239
it's a warrior sport. It's as close as we get

01:14:57.239 --> 01:15:00.659
to having real -life gladiators, but there needs

01:15:00.659 --> 01:15:03.899
to be... there needs to be some safety implements

01:15:03.899 --> 01:15:07.279
being put in and even real time stuff that Jason

01:15:07.279 --> 01:15:10.460
and I are starting to see where you, if you do

01:15:10.460 --> 01:15:13.100
get a concussion on the field, you can be tested

01:15:13.100 --> 01:15:16.279
right there on the sidelines to see where you're

01:15:16.279 --> 01:15:18.239
at. Should you go back in the game? Cause a lot

01:15:18.239 --> 01:15:20.020
of times it's just, all right, let's hit them

01:15:20.020 --> 01:15:22.159
with the flashlight. You know, it's just like,

01:15:22.199 --> 01:15:24.800
ask him a couple simple questions. How many fingers

01:15:24.800 --> 01:15:26.960
am I holding up? And for the most part, it's

01:15:26.960 --> 01:15:29.500
like, let's get them back in the game. And now

01:15:29.500 --> 01:15:32.619
it's like, let's have that safe. and have those

01:15:32.619 --> 01:15:36.380
different options and even let's educate young

01:15:36.380 --> 01:15:39.579
athletes to show that like there is an only small

01:15:39.579 --> 01:15:42.100
percentage that are even going to go to college

01:15:42.100 --> 01:15:46.079
a way smaller and almost impossible percentage

01:15:46.079 --> 01:15:48.600
just going to make it to professional let's find

01:15:48.600 --> 01:15:52.319
something that you can still have you know create

01:15:52.319 --> 01:15:54.819
your dreams and they're not just going to crash

01:15:54.819 --> 01:15:57.039
because you know you didn't make it to the NBA

01:15:59.330 --> 01:16:03.789
Yeah. Jason, anything to add? You know, I'd rather

01:16:03.789 --> 01:16:06.829
finish up with trips than put mine in because

01:16:06.829 --> 01:16:11.810
I think it's, I don't see football going away

01:16:11.810 --> 01:16:14.050
anytime soon, unfortunately, right? Hockey's

01:16:14.050 --> 01:16:16.649
not going away anytime soon. And so it's kind

01:16:16.649 --> 01:16:20.810
of one of those things where, yes, trip to your

01:16:20.810 --> 01:16:22.770
point, what I love would be to educate them on

01:16:22.770 --> 01:16:24.909
the bigger picture and get them there. A lot

01:16:24.909 --> 01:16:28.029
of us need to go through these challenges. The

01:16:28.029 --> 01:16:31.079
biggest thing is, put pieces in place that can

01:16:31.079 --> 01:16:34.119
help you recover from those quicker, right? Like

01:16:34.119 --> 01:16:37.680
you see the vestibular right there. I mean, if

01:16:37.680 --> 01:16:41.239
they put that into a gym class and, you know,

01:16:41.279 --> 01:16:43.800
we're doing that after all of these concussions

01:16:43.800 --> 01:16:45.960
that they had or the oxygen right there, right?

01:16:46.079 --> 01:16:48.279
And they did that, at least figure it out a way,

01:16:48.340 --> 01:16:51.079
you know, it's 20 minutes. It's not a long time.

01:16:51.420 --> 01:16:55.079
So I think our... you know my my biggest thing

01:16:55.079 --> 01:16:57.220
and this is why you know thank you for having

01:16:57.220 --> 01:16:59.380
us on your podcast james and for continuing to

01:16:59.380 --> 01:17:01.100
spread these messages because i think the biggest

01:17:01.100 --> 01:17:04.140
thing is or not the biggest but a big thing is

01:17:04.140 --> 01:17:06.840
is what can we do to mitigate these challenges

01:17:06.840 --> 01:17:11.000
so that over time it's not as much of a challenge

01:17:11.000 --> 01:17:13.859
and maybe they can get to the level of understanding

01:17:13.859 --> 01:17:16.479
okay hey i'm not going to be a pro so Maybe I

01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:19.739
don't need to go as hard with this. But I think

01:17:19.739 --> 01:17:21.899
that's, again, where we get to these technologies

01:17:21.899 --> 01:17:24.380
and support that we have in this day and age,

01:17:24.520 --> 01:17:26.939
where there are ways we can really help mitigate

01:17:26.939 --> 01:17:30.180
this if people, you know, just kind of pay attention

01:17:30.180 --> 01:17:32.899
and then open their minds to the possibilities

01:17:32.899 --> 01:17:35.579
of, well, what if we did this a little different?

01:17:35.619 --> 01:17:37.539
And, you know, back to then the flag football,

01:17:37.739 --> 01:17:39.340
there's a great solution, right? You're still

01:17:39.340 --> 01:17:41.880
getting the football activity, but not getting

01:17:41.880 --> 01:17:46.720
that same pain. And so. I think that's the biggest

01:17:46.720 --> 01:17:48.939
thing is we've evolved too much as humans to

01:17:48.939 --> 01:17:51.159
just let things keep going the way they are.

01:17:51.880 --> 01:17:55.979
How can we step into mitigating and then eventually

01:17:55.979 --> 01:17:59.680
eliminating? But yeah. Well, I think the other

01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:02.760
thing that I saw was a steep drop off after this

01:18:02.760 --> 01:18:05.340
high level of performance in college or high

01:18:05.340 --> 01:18:09.060
school to inactivity. And as we just alluded

01:18:09.060 --> 01:18:11.479
to, 75 % of the country is obese or overweight.

01:18:11.699 --> 01:18:14.140
So there's your science right there. We don't

01:18:14.140 --> 01:18:16.239
need to look any further. Whereas you look at

01:18:16.239 --> 01:18:18.619
some other countries that don't forge such a

01:18:18.619 --> 01:18:21.439
high level in their education systems, it's more

01:18:21.439 --> 01:18:24.199
play. And again, the natural athletes are going

01:18:24.199 --> 01:18:25.979
to find their way to professionals or the Olympics

01:18:25.979 --> 01:18:29.779
anyway. It's a path. Erin Jackson from Ocala,

01:18:29.880 --> 01:18:32.100
where I'm sitting, is now in the Winter Olympics,

01:18:32.340 --> 01:18:35.039
along with some of her teammates that are all

01:18:35.039 --> 01:18:38.369
vying for the speed skating. I think she got

01:18:38.369 --> 01:18:40.869
into it when she was 22, if I'm not mistaken.

01:18:40.949 --> 01:18:44.090
So there we go. Erin is a perfect example. But

01:18:44.090 --> 01:18:46.750
the rest of us just enjoy playing sports. But

01:18:46.750 --> 01:18:50.090
if you have this kind of specialization in this

01:18:50.090 --> 01:18:52.770
sport, you end up destroying the love of play,

01:18:53.010 --> 01:18:55.810
the love of games. And therefore, now our adults

01:18:55.810 --> 01:18:57.590
don't want to do it anymore because they're broken.

01:18:57.689 --> 01:19:00.470
They're burned out mentally versus a lot of other

01:19:00.470 --> 01:19:02.510
places around the world where they do play multiple

01:19:02.510 --> 01:19:04.550
sports. I mean, hockey is played all over the

01:19:04.550 --> 01:19:07.720
world, especially Scandinavia. And yet there's

01:19:07.720 --> 01:19:09.960
a very, very active population that plays all

01:19:09.960 --> 01:19:12.300
kinds of sports. So I think we can even play

01:19:12.300 --> 01:19:15.420
these, as you said, and use contact sensibly.

01:19:15.859 --> 01:19:19.460
But I think Tripp's point was amazing. This facade

01:19:19.460 --> 01:19:21.579
that all these young kids are one day going to

01:19:21.579 --> 01:19:24.020
be playing professionally is destroying our children

01:19:24.020 --> 01:19:26.359
rather than allowing them just to play and then

01:19:26.359 --> 01:19:29.520
letting the natural uber athletes surface naturally.

01:19:30.140 --> 01:19:32.319
All right. Well, with that being said, one more

01:19:32.319 --> 01:19:33.579
area, because I want to make sure we touch on

01:19:33.579 --> 01:19:35.649
this because it was really interesting. Your

01:19:35.649 --> 01:19:38.289
office is embedded in St. Pete Calisthenics.

01:19:38.329 --> 01:19:40.869
I've never seen a gym that looks like that before.

01:19:41.010 --> 01:19:43.109
So just quickly talk to me about that facility.

01:19:44.609 --> 01:19:47.390
So St. Pete Calisthenics is in the warehouse

01:19:47.390 --> 01:19:50.729
district of downtown St. Petersburg, Florida.

01:19:51.869 --> 01:19:57.289
Our business model. was to, our business model

01:19:57.289 --> 01:20:00.590
is to up -level existing businesses, whether

01:20:00.590 --> 01:20:04.210
it's a med spa, a gym, a doctor's office, all

01:20:04.210 --> 01:20:06.750
the way to professional sports organizations.

01:20:07.329 --> 01:20:11.890
And we were very fortunate to partner with this

01:20:11.890 --> 01:20:15.390
location, St. Pete Calisthenics. Not only is

01:20:15.390 --> 01:20:19.029
the actual facility amazing, but the owners are

01:20:19.029 --> 01:20:22.390
great, Aaron and Tyler. So in this business,

01:20:22.529 --> 01:20:26.220
there's seven different businesses and everything

01:20:26.220 --> 01:20:29.539
from what we're doing with the recovery and the

01:20:29.539 --> 01:20:34.500
bio -optimization to aerial where people are

01:20:34.500 --> 01:20:38.439
working on a lot of the circus handstands type

01:20:38.439 --> 01:20:42.220
thing. We're even getting into coal plunge sauna,

01:20:42.399 --> 01:20:45.979
but a big part of what St. Pete calisthenics

01:20:45.979 --> 01:20:49.220
and the dream behind it was, was to create a

01:20:49.220 --> 01:20:54.619
very intelligent way to get people back, to playing

01:20:54.619 --> 01:20:57.840
again a lot of times there's a gap between the

01:20:57.840 --> 01:21:01.779
physical therapy and back into the real world

01:21:01.779 --> 01:21:03.960
where people go to physical therapy after their

01:21:03.960 --> 01:21:07.569
injury or surgery they're released and then They're

01:21:07.569 --> 01:21:09.850
just going to the gym and maybe they're not fully

01:21:09.850 --> 01:21:12.649
recovered or they haven't been educated how to

01:21:12.649 --> 01:21:15.569
do things correctly. So that's where we're bringing

01:21:15.569 --> 01:21:18.909
people into St. Pete Calisthenics to help them

01:21:18.909 --> 01:21:21.869
return the play, going over their limitations,

01:21:22.170 --> 01:21:27.029
their goals, step by step, give them a timeline.

01:21:27.310 --> 01:21:30.649
And by working with us, we are able to reduce

01:21:30.649 --> 01:21:34.920
that timeline to getting them back to. to reaching

01:21:34.920 --> 01:21:37.560
their goals whether it's just you know something

01:21:37.560 --> 01:21:39.859
basic like being able to pick up their grandchildren

01:21:39.859 --> 01:21:43.680
and play with them or you know are we going to

01:21:43.680 --> 01:21:47.960
set a goal to climb Mount Kilimanjaro so with

01:21:47.960 --> 01:21:51.359
this return to play program it's a really neurological

01:21:52.590 --> 01:21:55.470
intelligent base where you're getting that mind

01:21:55.470 --> 01:21:57.970
-body connection all the way down, especially

01:21:57.970 --> 01:22:00.750
like Jason mentioned earlier, to balance. And

01:22:00.750 --> 01:22:03.869
so that, especially as you get anywhere past

01:22:03.869 --> 01:22:08.229
30 into the aging population, how can we tie

01:22:08.229 --> 01:22:12.270
in that intelligent training, be able to recover

01:22:12.270 --> 01:22:15.350
quicker, but then add a community. At St. Pete

01:22:15.350 --> 01:22:17.250
Calisthenics, it doesn't feel like you're walking

01:22:17.250 --> 01:22:22.199
into a... gym like your typical crunch style

01:22:22.199 --> 01:22:27.960
gym you're walking into a place where it is the

01:22:27.960 --> 01:22:31.539
lighting is is great. The smells, uh, you feel

01:22:31.539 --> 01:22:34.960
welcomed. It's a community. Uh, you're not having

01:22:34.960 --> 01:22:38.500
that CrossFit aggressiveness, the injuries potentially

01:22:38.500 --> 01:22:42.560
happening. It's a very strategic guided program

01:22:42.560 --> 01:22:45.500
from start to finish. And I know when I go in

01:22:45.500 --> 01:22:48.159
there, especially in the evenings, I feel like

01:22:48.159 --> 01:22:51.220
it is exactly where I need to be. I get my training

01:22:51.220 --> 01:22:54.039
in after a long day of working, I get my cold

01:22:54.039 --> 01:22:57.560
plunge and sauna and you know, it's just a. perfect

01:22:57.560 --> 01:23:00.239
place to have these day -to -day trainings and

01:23:00.239 --> 01:23:03.359
then eventually events webinars like a big part

01:23:03.359 --> 01:23:05.359
of what we're doing is community -based education

01:23:05.359 --> 01:23:09.159
so there's probably not a better place in the

01:23:09.159 --> 01:23:13.380
tampa bay area to do that anything to add jason

01:23:13.380 --> 01:23:17.060
no he nailed it the the beauty of this place

01:23:17.060 --> 01:23:19.039
is they really get you in the mindset to play

01:23:19.039 --> 01:23:21.699
you see the jungle gyms basically right when

01:23:21.699 --> 01:23:23.600
you came here you saw the different bar systems

01:23:23.600 --> 01:23:27.100
and so instantly it gets you in that mindset

01:23:27.100 --> 01:23:30.039
of playing and having fun and being a kid again.

01:23:30.140 --> 01:23:33.140
And I think that's, that's the core to all of

01:23:33.140 --> 01:23:35.260
this. If we can get back to that, we could communicate

01:23:35.260 --> 01:23:37.859
with each other better. We could heal. We could,

01:23:37.859 --> 01:23:39.859
you know, we could just all move forward. So

01:23:39.859 --> 01:23:42.159
I think that that's probably the core that we

01:23:42.159 --> 01:23:44.340
love about here is just they instantly put in

01:23:44.340 --> 01:23:46.560
that mindset returning to play. And then it's

01:23:46.560 --> 01:23:49.760
also. your body, right? So again, we talk about

01:23:49.760 --> 01:23:51.539
this technology that we have that can streamline

01:23:51.539 --> 01:23:54.159
things, but the cool thing about calisthenics,

01:23:54.159 --> 01:23:57.020
what you learn is how powerful your body is by

01:23:57.020 --> 01:24:00.979
doing these activities, just using your body,

01:24:01.079 --> 01:24:04.060
right? They have an assessment that's very cool.

01:24:04.159 --> 01:24:06.840
And it's something that's just watching your

01:24:06.840 --> 01:24:09.439
movement, right? And, you know, I know we all

01:24:09.439 --> 01:24:11.960
know this from the past or have seen this, but

01:24:13.350 --> 01:24:16.050
When they're able to use such little technology

01:24:16.050 --> 01:24:20.229
to do things, it creates this awareness, again,

01:24:20.310 --> 01:24:22.470
just to life, the bigger picture. And I think

01:24:22.470 --> 01:24:24.770
they really, as Tripp nailed it, the community

01:24:24.770 --> 01:24:28.789
here just brings all that in. I've said this

01:24:28.789 --> 01:24:31.090
on here many times. This, I think, is really

01:24:31.090 --> 01:24:35.250
the draw for CrossFit and for mud runs. It's

01:24:35.250 --> 01:24:38.050
not... the movements and no one loves thrusters.

01:24:38.090 --> 01:24:39.850
We just did it the other day and we don't normally

01:24:39.850 --> 01:24:41.689
do it anymore. We used to be a CrossFit gym and

01:24:41.689 --> 01:24:44.350
now we've changed programming, but it's not for

01:24:44.350 --> 01:24:47.170
that. But the handstands, the ropes, the peg

01:24:47.170 --> 01:24:49.909
boards, the, the jungle gyms, the muscle ups,

01:24:49.930 --> 01:24:51.989
you know, and then you go into the mud, mud run

01:24:51.989 --> 01:24:53.409
world, you know, all the different things. You're

01:24:53.409 --> 01:24:55.409
just, you're being a child again. And it goes

01:24:55.409 --> 01:24:57.270
back to what I was saying with this drop off.

01:24:57.369 --> 01:24:59.810
If you're just playing a sport and you're getting

01:24:59.810 --> 01:25:02.029
it rammed down your throat that, you know, if

01:25:02.029 --> 01:25:04.109
you're not first, you're last. And, you know,

01:25:04.940 --> 01:25:06.819
participation trophy if you get anything other

01:25:06.819 --> 01:25:08.819
than first, which I think is bullshit. Like I'm

01:25:08.819 --> 01:25:10.159
pretty sure they give a trophy at the end of

01:25:10.159 --> 01:25:12.699
every marathon, for example. So you're telling

01:25:12.699 --> 01:25:14.239
me that none of those people are worth, you know,

01:25:14.260 --> 01:25:16.939
rewarding. I think we have this discouraging

01:25:16.939 --> 01:25:19.699
conversation about exercise. And I think that

01:25:19.699 --> 01:25:21.960
we need to get back into play, whether playing

01:25:21.960 --> 01:25:24.600
a game of football. I do soccer every Sunday

01:25:24.600 --> 01:25:27.319
with a bunch of lads, you know, or playing in

01:25:27.319 --> 01:25:29.479
a CrossFit gym or go and do in a mud run or whatever

01:25:29.479 --> 01:25:32.090
it is like. just doing something because you

01:25:32.090 --> 01:25:34.350
enjoy doing it and then having that community

01:25:34.350 --> 01:25:37.090
and you feel part of something, fast forward

01:25:37.090 --> 01:25:39.270
a year later, you'll be fitter and happier. That

01:25:39.270 --> 01:25:42.670
just happens by osmosis then. You nailed it.

01:25:43.829 --> 01:25:46.529
With that being said then, so Trip, for people

01:25:46.529 --> 01:25:49.010
listening, where can they find the bio -optimization,

01:25:49.069 --> 01:25:52.189
I'm struggling with that word, the bio -optimization

01:25:52.189 --> 01:25:55.250
institute online and then where can they find

01:25:55.250 --> 01:26:00.529
each of you online as well? On Instagram, the

01:26:00.529 --> 01:26:06.369
go -to is, what is it, Jason, you might be better

01:26:06.369 --> 01:26:12.189
off at this. So to the website, you'd go to theboi

01:26:12.189 --> 01:26:14.409
.health, right? And then you can find all of

01:26:14.409 --> 01:26:17.550
our socials from there. But yes, our Instagram,

01:26:17.770 --> 01:26:21.350
YouTube, LinkedIn, those will all either be the

01:26:21.350 --> 01:26:24.710
BioOptimization Institute or BioOptimization

01:26:24.710 --> 01:26:26.989
Institute if it was too long and we couldn't

01:26:26.989 --> 01:26:31.659
fit it in there. And then you can find Trip at

01:26:31.659 --> 01:26:34.600
Trip Harlan, right? I think that's your Instagram,

01:26:34.739 --> 01:26:39.520
right? And then I'm at Jason Grafasi on Instagram.

01:26:39.619 --> 01:26:42.020
And then from there, you can find all the others.

01:26:43.199 --> 01:26:45.880
Brilliant. Well, I want to thank you. I want

01:26:45.880 --> 01:26:47.880
to thank Sheila first for making this connection.

01:26:48.000 --> 01:26:50.420
Give her a shout out. Always thank you, Sheila.

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Yeah, Sheila's a rock star. Oh, man. Damn dynamo,

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that's for sure. And then I want to thank you

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for putting my wife and I through all the treatments

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and really getting to experience this firsthand

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and coming back again to do the vestibular the

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second time. And then most importantly, I want

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to thank you both for being so generous with

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your time and coming on the Behind the Shield

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podcast today. Thank you, James. Thank you. It

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was an honor.