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This episode is sponsored by yet another great

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company that I use and endorse, and that is Bubs

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of Glenn Doherty, one of the courageous Navy

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SEALs that died in Benghazi. And his best friend,

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Sean Lake, co -founded Bubz Naturals, not only

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to bring wellness solutions to the community,

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but to take 10 % of the profits and donate to

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charities in Glenn's name. So I first came across

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subsided. And then what really blew me away was

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actually my gut health. I saw that improve. And

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when you think about the gut is 80 % of your

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immune system, that is incredibly pertinent.

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form has allowed me to put creamer back in my

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coffee after swearing off dairy for years. But

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when I have this creamer, it's adding energy,

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the full story behind Bubz Naturals and the courage

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of Glenn Doherty, listen to my interview with

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Glenn's best friend and Bubz co -founder, Sean

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Lake, on episode 558 of the Behind the Shield

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podcast. This episode is sponsored by First In

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podcast. This episode is sponsored by 5 .11,

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a company that I've used for well over a decade

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and continue to use to this day. And 5 .11 is

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the Shield podcast, a discount on every purchase

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I want to highlight a couple of products that,

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again, I personally use today. One of the most

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impressive products they just released is their

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Rush Backpack 2 .0. Now, for many of you, whether

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you're going to the fire station, the police

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station, whether you're traveling with your family,

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whether you're taking training courses, we have

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to fly, we have to drive, we have to take trains.

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And I have to say, I own multiple backpacks,

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many of 5 .11's different ones. But as far as

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a day pack, this one was the most impressive.

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There are so many different compartments. The

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way it sits on your back is incredibly comfortable.

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If you are a concealed carry person, there's

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also a spot for a weapon. So they've thought

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of multiple, multiple things that a man or woman

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would have to do on a daily basis. That is in

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addition to all of the products that I talk about

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a lot. Their uniforms fit for men or fit for

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women in the first responder professions. The

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footwear that they offer, whether it's the Norris

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sneaker or the Atlas system that is designed

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for foot health and therefore knees and back

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and hips and shoulders and neck. As a civilian,

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of their shorts, which again, very, very lightweight

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well. My thinking was simply, if I'm going to

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have a vest, why not have one that protects me

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as well? And that tack vest is trusted by law

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their products, then listen to episode 338 of

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the Behind the Shield podcast with the CEO and

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founder, Francisco Morales. Welcome to episode

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576 of Behind the Shield podcast. As always,

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my name is James Geering, and this week it is

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my absolute honor to welcome on the show Doug

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Orchard. Now, Doug was originally in the tech

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industry, but he found himself making documentaries.

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His very first one, ironically, in 2009 was about

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a flu pandemic. He then worked in the world of

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fasting and created a film about that. The incredible

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movie that first hooked me, The Motivation Factor,

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discussing the impact of a high level of physical

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education in schools in the 50s and 60s and the

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direct correlation it had on their physical and

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mental health and productivity and their academic

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scores. One of his other films is called The

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Power of Zero, which discusses the financial

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crisis this country is facing. And once again,

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so much of our debt is related to our healthcare

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costs. So you can imagine the importance of Doug's

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lens and this is why yesterday I posted about

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this on social media. I wanted everyone to listen

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to this episode. When we prioritize our physical

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health, movement, what we eat, it factors into

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every other element of our life. It reduces our

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national debt through reducing healthcare costs.

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It improves mental health affecting the addiction

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crisis. It fosters community when we suffer together,

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therefore repairing all these divides that have

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been created the last few years. And productivity,

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whether performing high academically in school

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or whether in the workplace, by creating these

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healthy human beings, every single element of

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our life is improved. And there is no better

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time to sow these seeds than now, after two years

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of the pandemic, when the absolute priority of

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discussion should be improving the physical and

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mental health of every country on the planet.

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So before we get to this incredible conversation,

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as I say every week, please just take a moment,

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And this is a free library of 576 episodes now.

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So all I ask in return is that you help share

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can get them to every single person on planet

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Earth who needs to hear them. So with that being

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said, I introduce to you, Doug Orchard. Enjoy.

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Well, Doug, I wanted to start by saying thank

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you so much for welcoming me to your beautiful

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home today and taking the time to come on the

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podcast. Hey, thanks so much. It is so great

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to talk to you. I think we're kindred spirits

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and all things. So thank you. It's going to be

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a great conversation. I was listening to an interview

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you did with three military members before when

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you were making the film. And even that conversation

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here in the pertinent elements, not only. from

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the preparation of the tactical community, but

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also the health of our nation. So I'm uber excited.

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But we're sitting in a quite unique space right

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now. So for people that can't see, where are

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we geographically? So we're in Ormond Beach,

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Florida. I had custom built out this studio.

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This is where I actually do my creation. So we

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got, you know, cedar wall right there. This is

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like a special vinyl flooring for acoustics.

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I could fly people out and actually film them

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here. Ironically, the first audio recording anyone's

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doing is you and me right here. Well, I'm honored.

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Thank you. So great. But I have this backyard

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I'm doing all this work on. I used to, when it

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comes to editing my movies, I used to go off

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to a forest or someone's cabin or somewhere.

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I needed to be really in nature because what

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I wanted to, when you're editing mentally, it

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gets so, there's so much to it. For documentary

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editing, the only way I know how to do that really

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is you get to the point that all the footage

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is just swimming in your brain. So you've gone

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through it over and over and over. It's there.

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And you don't want to be with another human until

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it's on the timeline. And that's a five -day

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process typically. And at the very end, and we're

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talking about months of work before you can get

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to that spot. And so you have to have a break.

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Like it's just emotionally taxing. Mentally,

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it just sucks life out of you. And so I found

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that if I could just be in nature, it was really

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helpful. So I decided I moved to Florida. I've

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got my whole backyard is going to be full on

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jungle. It looks like Costa Rica. And that way

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I could just go outside, do some Indian clubs,

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look at the nature for five or ten minutes and

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get right back in and keep editing. That's what

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I did here. That's what my goal. Beautiful. I

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can relate to that. I gave you the book. I wrote

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a book. just over a year ago now and it was the

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porch where i did a lot of the writing but yeah

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i mean trying to get that thought from your brain

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if the moment of you know cell phone pings or

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a child comes in and asks a question you just

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focus is lost so i totally understand why you

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need a separate space yeah so thank you welcome

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so you talked about moving to florida i'd love

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to start at the very beginning of your timeline

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first and then obviously we'll get to all your

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work so where were you born and tell me a little

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bit about your family dynamic you know what your

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parents did and how many siblings yeah so I was

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born in Sacramento California and I spent most

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of my life there I was only man I grew up Within

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a 40 -minute drive of La Sierra High, where I

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did that whole Motivation Factor thing. And at

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the time, I was only 20 minutes away from it

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when I did that film. So Sacramento, and I'm

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one of six siblings, same parents. They're still

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married to this day. They're like 84 years old,

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healthy. Dad was a big track guy, McClatchy High

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School there in Sacramento. He was an electrician

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by trade, and when I was eight years old, he

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got in a pretty significant accident. Lucky he

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lived, but spent two months in the ICU, and then

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it was a six -month recovery. He fell off a scaffold.

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The scaffold broke on him, and he landed head

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first, then arms. The arms were so shattered,

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they didn't think he was ever going to be able

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to work again. But his head caught most of the

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falls. You can imagine what... what the situation

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was with him. And that was the same time my brother,

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who was a pole vaulter, great athlete, he was

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16, he got diagnosed with having a cancer and

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was told he was going to have six months to live.

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And my other brother just went off to college.

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So suddenly, I'm an eight -year -old kid all

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by myself, and I'm off in our garden. We had

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a lot that was the same size as our lot, and

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next door to it, it was just a big garden. My

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parents were big into gardening, health food.

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So I'm out there at eight years old. Mom's gone.

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She's at the hospital all the time. I've got

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a couple of sisters and three others. Two are

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younger than me. And that's it. And I was out

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in the garden trying to grow crops, thinking

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this is how we're going to eat. Dad's nowhere.

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Brother's going to die. And he's off in hospital

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too. And it was a really interesting moment for

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me to kind of have to grow up pretty quickly.

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I was the only kid on my block. It wasn't a bad

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neighborhood, but I happened to be the only kid

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on my block who didn't go to prison. Sometimes

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it's just people get doing crazy things. And

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so I had these experiences. And one day we had

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from our church, they came and just delivered

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a whole bunch of groceries. It was just bags

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from where we go buy groceries. And this gal

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sits down and explains to me, hey. Your parents,

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for their whole life, have been involved in our

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church. And every once a month, we do a fast

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where we don't eat. We don't eat food. And the

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monies we would be spending on the food as a

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minimum, even poor people do this, or more if

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you feel like donating more, we give. And 100

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% of those funds, 100 % are used for people like

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you right now. You're down on your luck. You

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need bills paid, mortgage paid. You need food

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or whatever. She said, hey, you'll never, just

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know, you'll never not have food. It's a really

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cool thing. So when I made the movie Fasting,

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I gave that church three full minutes of explaining

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what they do and why they did that. And I thought

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it was a really beautiful thing how we could

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end world hunger by going one day a month without

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food. And it's healthy for you. I said to learn,

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you know, fasting was all about what we could

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learn by not eating every now and again. But

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I was a recipient at eight years old. I mean,

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that's how we ate for months. My dad was out

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of work for a year. And it was pretty cool. I

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also saw the value of doing your own gardening

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and all that. And then while my brother was suffering

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like that, that's when my parents got into, you

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know, it was a death sentence. And that particular

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diagnosis, don't ask me to say the name. It's

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a complex thing. I've never really learned how

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to say it. But it hasn't changed. A kid who gets

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diagnosed with that in their growing years, they

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got six months still. I mean, there's been no

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improvement. So my parents tried to, we went

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down, they went down to San Diego, went to one

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of those clinics where they are doing wheatgrass

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and everything else, natural, everything. And

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so I, at that time, for a while moving forward,

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I had wheatgrass every morning. I had juicing

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every morning. They were big Jacqueline fans.

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Jacqueline had a business partner. His name was

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Ed Flint. He had a gym. My brother eventually

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gets married, my one who lives, and he marries

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this gal who was affiliated with this guy. And

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that guy got me out to the gym when I was 13,

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you know, freshman year. And so it's Jack LaLanne's

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business partner. If you know Jack LaLanne, you

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know his business partner. I mean, they're like

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peas in the pod. And this guy was in the 70s.

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He was the freakiest strong of anybody I've ever

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met. I've yet to meet anyone at that age who's

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still like that. And he just instilled in me

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a desire to be a guy that's in shape and taught

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me how to transform my physique. I don't remember

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my weight, but I remember going into summer from

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eighth grade. eighth grade going to ninth grade

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and i said you know i really want to just improve

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what i need to do and and i'm just like should

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i be using these curls should i be doing this

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and you know you're looking at the outside stuff

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oh no no son if you want to mass up you need

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to do heavy weights you need to be doing squats

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deadlifts bench and it says something else can't

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remember what else this thing you said but there's

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like four things i need to do and then you need

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to eat a loaf of your mom's whole wheat bread

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that she makes every day, a full loaf, and drink

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a gallon of whole milk every day. By the way,

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if you do that for a summer, that definitely

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works. I was transformed. We didn't have supplements,

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other stuff then. So anyway, so yeah, I mean,

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I did that, went through high school, but I was

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not an athlete. I had to work. And I felt because

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of what I went through in eighth grade, I felt

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like it was super, I had to be super responsible

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individual. You know, the sports I wasn't going

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to be able to maintain, I wasn't even able to

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save for my own college and everything else.

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No one had gone to college in my family. I was

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the first one to go and graduate and get a master's

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degree and everything. So I wasn't able to do

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a lot that I wanted to do that way, but I absolutely

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stayed in shape. And it was something I always

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did in my life. So anyway, that's... I ended

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up getting an undergrad in English and a master's

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degree in library science. It was competitive

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intelligence was my focus at the time. I became

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the number one tech recruiter in the country

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using what I knew in 1995. Then I got into doing

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streaming media stuff. I created a streaming

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media company in 1999 -2000 that introduced me

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to the world of video and stuff. a couple different

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firms that it was in that space i was doing corporate

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both recruiting stuff and video stuff and then

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corporate marketing throughout the early 2000s

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until 2009 when someone wanted a marketing video

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on face masks and uh they have to stop you there

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sorry the interview's over all right i'm joking

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no they want to do a face on face mask and what

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had happened is They had gone through the process

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of getting FDA approval on a certain kind of

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mask that you could put on that would provide

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protection from microscopic particulate matter

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for a virus, something that's so small that's

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basically dust on the mitochondria. And they

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were saying that a surgical mask would never

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work, and that the N95s that they sell, those

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would not work for a general public because you've

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got to go through a fit testing thing, and that's

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the... process and you're a firefighter you've

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done that you know what i'm talking about many

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years and so they had 3m and pasture pharma had

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come out with a with these they had gone through

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185 different facial designs of adults i mean

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this was a very complex process and came up with

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something that actually any adult could put on

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if they didn't have facial hair and they would

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have full seal total protection from a virus

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And so everyone listening right now, if this

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ends up being in the film, is probably sitting

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there going, well, wait a second. How come I

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haven't heard of this FDA approved general public

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use respirator that both 3M and Pasture Pharma

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has? And it's interesting because, you know,

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I did a, these guys wanted a marketing video.

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And I said, no one's going to watch a marketing.

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No one's going to watch a video on that topic.

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You'd be better off to do a documentary, a legit

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documentary on pandemic flu. Talk them in to

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give me a budget. Made my first documentary,

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2009, Truth About Pandemic Flu, with Tommy Thompson,

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who basically was a partner in that whole thing

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anyway. And he was the former health secretary

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and a four -term governor and had been a presidential

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candidate. And, of course, he had his buddies.

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They were the CDC and the FDA. He knew everybody,

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all the immunologists, virologists, everybody.

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The people who extracted Spanish flu out of cadavers.

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All those people were in the film. I interviewed

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all those folks. And it was a great movie. And

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it was really clear what you're supposed to do

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to prepare and protect yourself in a pandemic.

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And then we had one. We've had this one. By the

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way, H1N1 breaks out right in the middle of filming

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that. Timing couldn't have been better. And I've

00:21:01.059 --> 00:21:03.259
watched what we've done as a country since then

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on this. And I was really puzzled. what we've

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done and how we responded didn't match what they

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said we're supposed to do. And absent in all

00:21:14.109 --> 00:21:18.970
of this is this already FDA approved N95 GPU,

00:21:19.349 --> 00:21:22.670
general public use respirator, FDA approved for

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the adults. In the film, it cited Time Magazine

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criticizing us because we didn't have. We should

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stockpile 65 billion of these, the experts thought.

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And we hadn't stockpiled them yet for Hurricane

00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:40.440
Katrina. So this film comes out in 2009. H1N1

00:21:40.440 --> 00:21:43.380
breaks out in 2009. It's typically your vice

00:21:43.380 --> 00:21:45.000
president is over that kind of stuff, right?

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And the vice president of the United States at

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the time is Joe Biden. Well, I've watched Joe

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Biden since come out and he's just wearing face

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masks and saying, wear two of these. What on

00:21:55.849 --> 00:21:58.890
earth? A face mask designed so that your drilling

00:21:58.890 --> 00:22:01.470
dentist doesn't drill into your mouth while he's

00:22:01.470 --> 00:22:03.930
drilling on your teeth. I mean, it's just to

00:22:03.930 --> 00:22:07.650
stop drool. That's all a face mask is. N95 respirator,

00:22:07.670 --> 00:22:09.210
that's designed to actually protect you, but

00:22:09.210 --> 00:22:12.190
you have to be fit tested for it. The only thing

00:22:12.190 --> 00:22:16.190
that exists is the GPUs. And for some reason,

00:22:16.190 --> 00:22:19.289
our country's never bought them. And what was

00:22:19.289 --> 00:22:21.970
super interesting is when Fauci came out in March,

00:22:22.130 --> 00:22:25.970
mid -March. 2020, interviewed, should the public

00:22:25.970 --> 00:22:28.390
be wearing face masks? He said, no, everyone

00:22:28.390 --> 00:22:31.470
knows that, seen that. Two weeks later, CDC recommends

00:22:31.470 --> 00:22:34.069
that we start wearing those. Start making them

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yourself, whatever, put them on. Put scarves

00:22:37.690 --> 00:22:40.369
around, bandanas, anything works, they said.

00:22:41.630 --> 00:22:47.049
And so I looked at the website when he said,

00:22:47.089 --> 00:22:51.009
don't wear them. Yeah, I just did a Google search

00:22:51.009 --> 00:22:53.809
for those respirators and they were right there.

00:22:54.730 --> 00:22:57.650
Two weeks later when Fauci, well not Fauci, but

00:22:57.650 --> 00:22:59.809
the CDC changes their mind and says, okay, start

00:22:59.809 --> 00:23:03.609
wearing these face masks. I just went to my history

00:23:03.609 --> 00:23:06.230
to where I was two weeks earlier. I pulled up

00:23:06.230 --> 00:23:08.789
the same page on the FDA's website where it listed

00:23:08.789 --> 00:23:14.009
these products out. And those FDA approved N95

00:23:14.009 --> 00:23:17.990
respirators, GPUs, that section of the page was

00:23:17.990 --> 00:23:20.839
deleted. everything was the same before and after

00:23:20.839 --> 00:23:24.140
and they just got rid of that part so they actually

00:23:24.140 --> 00:23:28.859
didn't have on their site anymore the one thing

00:23:28.859 --> 00:23:32.319
that is fda approved and scientifically clinically

00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:36.180
proven to protect the public like literally instead

00:23:36.180 --> 00:23:39.359
of closing down the country if we had 165 billion

00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:41.420
of these sitting around we could have just handed

00:23:41.420 --> 00:23:43.920
them out to the vulnerable, the population, and

00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:46.039
it has been business as usual. They're protected.

00:23:46.119 --> 00:23:47.759
The rest of us go on with our lives. We wouldn't

00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:50.839
have spent $10 trillion unnecessarily on what

00:23:50.839 --> 00:23:53.400
we're doing right now. So it's been very difficult

00:23:53.400 --> 00:23:57.660
for me to watch this play out because we had

00:23:57.660 --> 00:24:03.900
the answer already. And so this was like a makeup,

00:24:04.039 --> 00:24:07.460
I guess, because we didn't prepare as a country

00:24:07.460 --> 00:24:09.279
for that, which would have been a couple billion

00:24:09.279 --> 00:24:12.140
dollars to buy those. You know, in an off -market

00:24:12.140 --> 00:24:15.880
situation. You couldn't get them now. Nobody

00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:17.380
could get their hands on them now. I'm not sure.

00:24:17.559 --> 00:24:19.779
But they must be selling them. Somebody's getting

00:24:19.779 --> 00:24:24.119
them. Ironically, my mother -in -law watched

00:24:24.119 --> 00:24:26.839
that documentary I did in 2009. It comes out.

00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:29.259
She's got a whole bunch of these still in her

00:24:29.259 --> 00:24:33.119
closet to prepare for that day. She goes to the

00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:35.980
doctor's office or to the hospital for her nursing

00:24:35.980 --> 00:24:38.099
friends, because she's retired now, but her fellow

00:24:38.099 --> 00:24:40.640
friends were still nurses there, and gives them

00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:42.880
to them. Because they couldn't even get their

00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:45.700
hands on N95 respirators. And people were just,

00:24:45.779 --> 00:24:48.160
they were making homemade cloth things wearing

00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:50.720
those in the hospital, which does nothing. And

00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:54.299
I thought to myself, man, you have real N95 respirators.

00:24:54.779 --> 00:24:56.500
It was just crazy. The whole thing was a crazy

00:24:56.500 --> 00:24:59.599
experience. And I'm sharing this story right

00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:01.779
now because just to kind of get you, everyone

00:25:01.779 --> 00:25:09.099
to understand why I'm frustrated with our FDA

00:25:09.099 --> 00:25:14.759
and those kinds of positions who are in the position

00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:19.640
that we're paying them in tax dollars. We support

00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:23.019
this to provide us with the information we need

00:25:23.019 --> 00:25:26.700
for our health. And the choices they've made

00:25:26.700 --> 00:25:31.279
to, in many cases, and by the way, everyone's

00:25:31.279 --> 00:25:32.519
like, well, where's that documentary you did?

00:25:32.619 --> 00:25:34.920
Why don't you just release it? Yeah. Someone

00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:37.579
show me the platform I can release that movie

00:25:37.579 --> 00:25:40.299
right now. Where would that be? Would that be

00:25:40.299 --> 00:25:43.660
Spotify? Not anymore. Would that be Amazon? No,

00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:46.440
it won't be Amazon. Would it be YouTube? Where

00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:50.059
would I put that thing? Where it wouldn't be

00:25:50.059 --> 00:25:53.460
ripped down within two days. And where I'd still

00:25:53.460 --> 00:25:56.220
be able to go out and... do work, you know, and

00:25:56.220 --> 00:25:58.279
not be labeled this, you know, whatever, even

00:25:58.279 --> 00:26:00.680
though that's, it's the FDA in the film saying

00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:03.099
it, and it's the CDC and it's, you know, you're

00:26:03.099 --> 00:26:06.799
sitting there going, wow. So, so if they're prepared

00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:09.059
to actually go so far as to delete what we do

00:26:09.059 --> 00:26:12.279
know from their site, the day they say, put these

00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:15.619
out. And I kind of get maybe why they would do

00:26:15.619 --> 00:26:17.619
that. It would just be like, okay, well, we can't

00:26:17.619 --> 00:26:19.019
tell the public, this is what you should get.

00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:21.660
There's no way the public can get it. Like they're

00:26:21.660 --> 00:26:23.200
just gone. They're off the shelves. They're just

00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:28.339
gone. they're already would be gone so why frustrate

00:26:28.339 --> 00:26:30.599
everybody and then so that you tell them the

00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:33.079
next best thing just put on whatever but the

00:26:33.079 --> 00:26:37.380
problem with that is it's a lie like it's a lie

00:26:37.380 --> 00:26:42.460
if you tell an older vulnerable person or immunocompromised

00:26:42.460 --> 00:26:46.640
individual put on a surgical mask and then go

00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:49.319
ahead and sit right next to somebody on a plane

00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:53.109
you're good you're lying to them You're absolutely

00:26:53.109 --> 00:26:55.650
lying to him. And so you would be better off

00:26:55.650 --> 00:26:58.809
not to be wearing anything and go by your distancing

00:26:58.809 --> 00:27:01.890
and everything else than what we did. So that's

00:27:01.890 --> 00:27:04.529
a little bit about, I could go on and on about

00:27:04.529 --> 00:27:07.970
that, but anyway, it's out there. Yeah. Well,

00:27:07.990 --> 00:27:09.529
I mean, it's such an important perspective and

00:27:09.529 --> 00:27:12.269
I want to get to the part which isn't discussed,

00:27:12.410 --> 00:27:14.269
which is underlying health, which is a big part

00:27:14.269 --> 00:27:18.109
of your next film. But just touching on that

00:27:18.109 --> 00:27:20.970
for a second. i've seen the polar right there

00:27:20.970 --> 00:27:23.990
was a wedge driven by the previous president

00:27:23.990 --> 00:27:26.009
as a wedge driven now and it breaks my heart

00:27:26.009 --> 00:27:28.109
because i mean i heard you talked about kind

00:27:28.109 --> 00:27:29.549
of mentioned this in one of the previous podcasts

00:27:29.549 --> 00:27:33.970
too that you were on um i felt like we this was

00:27:33.970 --> 00:27:35.849
a time where leaders were actually tested to

00:27:35.849 --> 00:27:38.109
find out if they were actually able to lead and

00:27:38.109 --> 00:27:40.309
the right and the left failed miserably oh yeah

00:27:40.309 --> 00:27:43.250
you know but so come seeing this division seeing

00:27:43.250 --> 00:27:44.990
these people these families these friendships

00:27:44.990 --> 00:27:47.609
torn apart about vaccines or you know masks or

00:27:47.609 --> 00:27:50.339
whatever it is most of us in the middle are like

00:27:50.339 --> 00:27:53.180
yeah this is a real threat this is a real virus

00:27:53.180 --> 00:27:56.000
that's definitely going to attack the immunocompromised

00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:59.539
and there is an element where the right mask

00:27:59.539 --> 00:28:02.299
at the right time will make a dent but coming

00:28:02.299 --> 00:28:04.200
from the first responder profession as you mentioned

00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:07.299
we go through this laborious process every year

00:28:07.299 --> 00:28:09.859
of making sure our scba which is the the air

00:28:09.859 --> 00:28:13.539
tank mask is fitted perfectly and we have to

00:28:13.539 --> 00:28:15.519
talk and move around and do all these things.

00:28:15.660 --> 00:28:17.680
And then we do the exact same thing with the

00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:20.619
N95 and they spray this kind of bitter compound

00:28:20.619 --> 00:28:23.640
in there that if we smell, then it's not the

00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:26.019
right seal. And that's a one -time use mask as

00:28:26.019 --> 00:28:29.200
well. So then coming from that background of,

00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:31.319
you know, somewhat expertise when it comes to

00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:34.299
having masks stuck to your face, I see, you know,

00:28:34.789 --> 00:28:37.650
crocheted masks and you know i mean i'm assuming

00:28:37.650 --> 00:28:39.250
people were using toilet paper as masks those

00:28:39.250 --> 00:28:41.329
were all gone too right but you know and you're

00:28:41.329 --> 00:28:44.390
like if can you smell smoke from the person over

00:28:44.390 --> 00:28:46.849
there that those smoke particles are so much

00:28:46.849 --> 00:28:49.589
bigger than a virus this isn't an argument this

00:28:49.589 --> 00:28:52.970
is basic physics you know i mean it's just it

00:28:52.970 --> 00:28:55.930
was so maddening because you want people to be

00:28:55.930 --> 00:28:58.569
protected but as you said that was a complete

00:28:58.569 --> 00:29:02.559
fictional story that was given to them And so

00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:06.440
now you've got people mask shaming who on their

00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:08.680
own face is something that's actually doing nothing

00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:11.500
whatsoever versus, as you said, pooling your

00:29:11.500 --> 00:29:13.680
resources, protecting the people that actually

00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:16.000
need them. And then the rest of us just, you

00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:18.500
know, getting the flu and moving on. And our

00:29:18.500 --> 00:29:21.220
kids, thank God, that was a great news. They

00:29:21.220 --> 00:29:23.940
were not getting negatively affected apart from,

00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:25.579
you know, the type 1 diabetics. And, you know,

00:29:25.579 --> 00:29:27.220
again, you protect those vulnerable people too.

00:29:27.220 --> 00:29:30.319
It was 125 kids who passed away as of like last,

00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.740
you know, three months ago. And that's a pretty

00:29:33.740 --> 00:29:36.279
small number given how many infections it is.

00:29:36.299 --> 00:29:40.420
So you're right. And less than the flu. So that's

00:29:40.420 --> 00:29:43.759
a fortunate thing. And you have a bunch of focus

00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:46.839
on them. It's a show. What bothers me is the

00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:50.259
show. We are pretending that these institutions

00:29:50.259 --> 00:29:52.759
are there to protect us and give us all this

00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:54.720
information, but it's being used in a different

00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:58.099
way. And so what do you even do about that? So

00:29:58.099 --> 00:30:00.980
I've thought a lot, do I make a movie really

00:30:00.980 --> 00:30:04.460
on this? And do I interview all those major people?

00:30:04.579 --> 00:30:06.700
Because I can get them usually in my film and

00:30:06.700 --> 00:30:10.140
have them review. We know why we created the

00:30:10.140 --> 00:30:14.180
FDA. We know that it didn't do what we said.

00:30:14.569 --> 00:30:16.349
We were hoping it would do. And we know that

00:30:16.349 --> 00:30:19.690
it's not protecting us right now on so many things.

00:30:20.349 --> 00:30:22.190
Would it be better if it was a private thing

00:30:22.190 --> 00:30:27.950
or something else? What would be better? Those

00:30:27.950 --> 00:30:30.630
are real questions. But when we really get into

00:30:30.630 --> 00:30:35.430
health, we look at schools. We look at our own

00:30:35.430 --> 00:30:38.130
corporations. We look at things. And I feel like

00:30:38.130 --> 00:30:41.269
so much of what we do is a show. It's just to

00:30:41.269 --> 00:30:43.569
put on a show to kind of appease. It looks like

00:30:43.569 --> 00:30:45.730
we're doing something. We checked that box and

00:30:45.730 --> 00:30:49.750
we moved on. And, you know, if you're doing exercise

00:30:49.750 --> 00:30:52.269
and you've just checked a box, or I did my exercise,

00:30:52.329 --> 00:30:55.250
I checked a box, you know, you're probably doing

00:30:55.250 --> 00:30:58.630
it wrong. It is like one of the most wonderful

00:30:58.630 --> 00:31:01.990
parts of our life, our day, when we get to exercise

00:31:01.990 --> 00:31:07.210
and when we get to take that break and completely

00:31:07.210 --> 00:31:11.250
renew our system. stress out our system right

00:31:11.250 --> 00:31:14.130
to that healthy edge so that our body gives us

00:31:14.130 --> 00:31:18.829
back this amazing machine and one that protects

00:31:18.829 --> 00:31:21.789
us against viruses helps us withstand almost

00:31:21.789 --> 00:31:24.849
anything thrown at us disease we have so much

00:31:24.849 --> 00:31:27.950
in us always everywhere i still don't even understand

00:31:27.950 --> 00:31:32.000
how covid actually transfers to people I know

00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:33.680
if you have sex with somebody who does, you get

00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:35.720
it. That happened to me. My wife, she had it.

00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:38.640
I knew she had it. So they had it all wrong.

00:31:38.660 --> 00:31:41.200
I was like, I'm good. I'm worried about this

00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:47.279
thing. But when you look at a lot of this, there's

00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:49.460
a lot we don't know. Why are some people getting

00:31:49.460 --> 00:31:52.619
cancer, others not? There's a lot we could look

00:31:52.619 --> 00:31:54.859
at. But we could look at the big killers. 80

00:31:54.859 --> 00:31:57.380
% of our health care costs really go to those

00:31:57.380 --> 00:32:00.900
chronic illnesses that are preventable. illnesses.

00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:03.299
So 80 % of our healthcare costs are unnecessary.

00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:08.339
And the moment you accept that, that we have

00:32:08.339 --> 00:32:12.160
80 % of our, and that is by the way, almost the

00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:15.460
entire national budget debt, our entire national

00:32:15.460 --> 00:32:18.960
debt, you could almost eliminate historically

00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:21.299
looking back if we started early enough, 1990

00:32:21.299 --> 00:32:25.920
or whatever, by not having the unnecessary chronic

00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:28.079
illnesses in America that we spent through Medicare

00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:31.450
or whatnot. So just that alone. And then, of

00:32:31.450 --> 00:32:33.349
course, you're looking at possibly being able

00:32:33.349 --> 00:32:37.009
to wipe out 80 % of your insurance bills and

00:32:37.009 --> 00:32:39.309
everything. So we're talking about the biggest

00:32:39.309 --> 00:32:43.289
cost we have as a country. And the whole industry,

00:32:43.609 --> 00:32:47.609
80 % of it's unnecessary. And it's just there

00:32:47.609 --> 00:32:51.089
as Band -Aid solutions, which never heals us.

00:32:52.049 --> 00:32:54.490
But on the side, that actually would... would

00:32:54.490 --> 00:32:56.750
heal us and we could have this incredible health

00:32:56.750 --> 00:32:59.470
span to the day we die and have this amazing

00:32:59.470 --> 00:33:03.150
life some people are doing that some people are

00:33:03.150 --> 00:33:05.650
are experiencing that they have emotional health

00:33:05.650 --> 00:33:08.789
they like to be around other people they love

00:33:08.789 --> 00:33:10.529
to be around other people they're interested

00:33:10.529 --> 00:33:13.569
in it and why because they exercise and they

00:33:13.569 --> 00:33:18.279
eat right it's diet And exercise. The word and

00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:21.440
in between is required, unfortunately. You just

00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:23.240
like doing diet or you like just doing exercise.

00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:27.559
It's not enough. It's both. Got to do both. And

00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:30.420
I have movies. I had a movie fasting. I was demonstrating

00:33:30.420 --> 00:33:34.420
you can still eat bad and still lose weight if

00:33:34.420 --> 00:33:36.460
you fast. And people got really mad. Well, I

00:33:36.460 --> 00:33:39.099
was just demonstrating that. And then the motivation

00:33:39.099 --> 00:33:42.079
factor is looking at exercise. Well, people are

00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:44.900
like, well. So if we exercise hard, we don't

00:33:44.900 --> 00:33:47.200
have to worry as much about diet. Well, you still

00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:49.740
need to worry about your diet and everything

00:33:49.740 --> 00:33:53.500
else. There's a lot involved. The issue is, are

00:33:53.500 --> 00:33:56.039
we interested in health for the right reasons?

00:33:56.839 --> 00:34:00.559
And if you don't really care about being seen

00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:02.359
in your swimsuit, and that's not what's driving

00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:07.000
you, which is most people, then you'd rather

00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:09.300
sit down and just watch TV at night and start

00:34:09.300 --> 00:34:12.599
snacking away. have some ice cream and everything

00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:18.039
else. The problem with that mentality is as you

00:34:18.039 --> 00:34:23.400
get a very unhealthy looking stomach, gut, it's

00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:26.400
a reflection of the status of your brain. You

00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:29.380
will, it can't do, your stomach and your gut,

00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:31.940
your brain and your gut are completely interrelated.

00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:36.199
And so there's not a free pass. Your brain doesn't

00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:37.920
get a free pass. You have no muscles on you.

00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:41.300
And it doesn't mean you're not operating at what

00:34:41.300 --> 00:34:43.639
you could operate. You're not loving at the level

00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:46.599
you could love. You're not having friendships

00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:48.320
at the level you have. You don't have the compassion

00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:52.179
and the empathy. You don't have the desires with

00:34:52.179 --> 00:34:56.059
other people. You're much more impatient. You

00:34:56.059 --> 00:34:59.480
could care less about other people. And you watch

00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:01.199
our society and how we're behaving right now.

00:35:01.260 --> 00:35:03.300
And I'm just telling you, it's a reflection of

00:35:03.300 --> 00:35:08.079
where we stand in our health. It's our emotional

00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:10.800
health. It's our spiritual health. It's our physical

00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:14.380
health. It's all three. And good luck intertwining

00:35:14.380 --> 00:35:18.699
any of those, by the way. I have learned for

00:35:18.699 --> 00:35:22.019
years, I grew up understanding this idea that

00:35:22.019 --> 00:35:29.940
there are cycles to civilizations. They're doing

00:35:29.940 --> 00:35:32.579
well, growing and progressing. And there's a

00:35:32.579 --> 00:35:36.039
period where they just are doing the wrong stuff

00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:39.079
and it's deleterious to everything. And at some

00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:42.739
point they'd crash, they're over. And then they

00:35:42.739 --> 00:35:45.639
repeat this cycle. That does involve, unfortunately,

00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:49.380
bondage and everything in that process. And so

00:35:49.380 --> 00:35:52.440
you could see it historically. You can look at

00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:56.559
it in a religious fashion. When I did the motivation

00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:58.099
factor, that's when I learned that you actually

00:35:58.099 --> 00:36:01.480
analyze cycles of civilizations based on the

00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:05.719
health of the civilization. So there are moments

00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:08.699
when that society is really healthy, usually

00:36:08.699 --> 00:36:12.260
coming out of their slavery, bondage area. They

00:36:12.260 --> 00:36:15.360
had to do a lot of physical stuff, and then things

00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:17.920
get pretty good for them. They get fat and happy,

00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:21.980
and they make some decisions they shouldn't make

00:36:21.980 --> 00:36:26.650
because they're lazy. They have their ease gets

00:36:26.650 --> 00:36:28.570
to them. They're not willing to put out the efforts

00:36:28.570 --> 00:36:33.289
anymore. And so the whole story could be told

00:36:33.289 --> 00:36:37.530
just by our physical health abilities and what

00:36:37.530 --> 00:36:40.150
we're doing as a people. And we could say, you

00:36:40.150 --> 00:36:43.409
know what, where are we as a country today? You

00:36:43.409 --> 00:36:44.969
know, where's this country today? And you can

00:36:44.969 --> 00:36:47.389
kind of see which country is going to be, where

00:36:47.389 --> 00:36:49.610
their story is going to be in 10 years from now

00:36:49.610 --> 00:36:52.590
based on the health levels of that people today.

00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:56.920
Again, you can't separate the brain out of the

00:36:56.920 --> 00:36:59.800
equation. It's going to be reflected in the quality

00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:01.659
of the work, the customer service. It's going

00:37:01.659 --> 00:37:04.840
to be the amount of actual real innovation, which

00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:07.940
takes serious effort, serious risk, innovation,

00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:13.460
money, all that stuff. People who are fat and

00:37:13.460 --> 00:37:17.679
lazy, metaphorically, they're not going to be

00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:21.659
willing to make those efforts. And so we're seeing

00:37:21.659 --> 00:37:23.880
right now as a country, everything we've been

00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:25.340
predicting was going to happen. It's already

00:37:25.340 --> 00:37:26.900
manifested. It's already starting to happen.

00:37:27.099 --> 00:37:29.420
But unfortunately, it gets much worse over the

00:37:29.420 --> 00:37:33.039
next 10 years. So these are serious issues. And

00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:35.139
the right place to start is with ourselves and

00:37:35.139 --> 00:37:36.920
our family and anyone we can associate with.

00:37:37.059 --> 00:37:39.980
And the right way to do that is to show the positive

00:37:39.980 --> 00:37:43.260
side to being healthy and exercising and being

00:37:43.260 --> 00:37:46.300
together with groups. It doesn't take much. It's

00:37:46.300 --> 00:37:48.539
a simple. you know one of those tipping points

00:37:48.539 --> 00:37:51.380
that we just go that direction it seems to impact

00:37:51.380 --> 00:37:57.460
everything but as we get more sedentary and and

00:37:57.460 --> 00:38:00.360
eat eat the foods that give us the instant rush

00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:02.400
that was super easy to pull out of the box rather

00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:04.940
than sit down and wait 20 minutes for those oat

00:38:04.940 --> 00:38:07.719
groats to actually be soft enough to eat and

00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:09.579
to just take them open the box and put in the

00:38:09.579 --> 00:38:12.539
big difference in what that does to our health

00:38:12.539 --> 00:38:16.190
and and with nutrients and everything But one

00:38:16.190 --> 00:38:17.969
takes time and effort and the other doesn't.

00:38:19.869 --> 00:38:24.630
Yeah. Well, firstly, watching the film, but secondly,

00:38:24.670 --> 00:38:27.329
even listening to that one conversation that

00:38:27.329 --> 00:38:31.289
I listened to driving up here, so many areas

00:38:31.289 --> 00:38:34.670
on this show are really about just reverse engineering

00:38:34.670 --> 00:38:37.530
to the nucleus of the problem. So I talk about

00:38:37.530 --> 00:38:39.869
drug prohibition, for example, and what an absolute

00:38:39.869 --> 00:38:42.130
clusterfuck that was and how that's created so

00:38:42.130 --> 00:38:45.650
much. pain and misery and violence and death

00:38:45.650 --> 00:38:47.690
and we get to see it i mean that's the strange

00:38:47.690 --> 00:38:49.570
thing about the first responder professions is

00:38:49.570 --> 00:38:51.849
you don't really hear voices from them nationally

00:38:51.849 --> 00:38:55.670
but we have a perfect lens on what works in the

00:38:55.670 --> 00:38:57.909
health what works in the violence prison system

00:38:57.909 --> 00:38:59.570
in all these things you know is it working or

00:38:59.570 --> 00:39:02.030
not but why are they taking the drugs i mean

00:39:02.030 --> 00:39:03.849
really when you look at that exactly that's the

00:39:03.849 --> 00:39:06.280
point it's a mental health crisis it's not you

00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:09.559
know it's the when we made it illegal we empowered

00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:12.659
the underworld and we criminalize addiction i'm

00:39:12.659 --> 00:39:14.960
not talking about selling and smuggling but um

00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:17.360
when you look at that i mean this is a 90 year

00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:20.000
longitudinal study on the epic failure of that

00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:23.780
well the 30s seem to line up with you know other

00:39:23.780 --> 00:39:26.599
things too like physical education so i would

00:39:26.599 --> 00:39:28.900
i would love you if you wouldn't mind walk us

00:39:28.900 --> 00:39:34.380
through how the the value of physicality you

00:39:34.380 --> 00:39:37.929
know prior to The 1900s? And then, you know,

00:39:37.949 --> 00:39:39.989
when did things start to change in the West with

00:39:39.989 --> 00:39:43.349
that? Right. So America has been through this

00:39:43.349 --> 00:39:47.130
before. And that's the good news. All we have

00:39:47.130 --> 00:39:49.030
to do is almost do a hundred year look back and

00:39:49.030 --> 00:39:53.170
we live this amazing parallel path. But in the

00:39:53.170 --> 00:39:58.570
1800s, late 1800s, America was not in shape.

00:39:58.849 --> 00:40:01.949
We assumed everybody was physically fit. You

00:40:01.949 --> 00:40:04.170
know, I didn't even know that they had gyms in

00:40:04.170 --> 00:40:08.010
the late 1800s. I just assumed people just, you

00:40:08.010 --> 00:40:11.010
know, were out in the farm working hard and nobody

00:40:11.010 --> 00:40:13.769
would go to a gym. There were gyms. They had

00:40:13.769 --> 00:40:16.409
gyms. And why did they have gyms? Well, they

00:40:16.409 --> 00:40:18.670
had cities. And as they moved to the cities,

00:40:18.809 --> 00:40:20.389
you know, everything that we're experiencing

00:40:20.389 --> 00:40:23.730
now fell apart. And so there was a what do we

00:40:23.730 --> 00:40:25.570
do kind of thing. Well, they were doing it in

00:40:25.570 --> 00:40:27.889
Europe. And so you had the tortifying. You had

00:40:27.889 --> 00:40:32.369
these different groups that were basically doing

00:40:32.369 --> 00:40:35.519
Renaissance lookbacks. what worked throughout

00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:39.019
history and civilizations. When you look at the

00:40:39.019 --> 00:40:43.159
21 major civilizations, you will always see a

00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:46.800
physicality there for two purposes. One, obviously

00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:49.320
they need to be in shape to get your people there.

00:40:49.420 --> 00:40:51.559
But two, they need to be unified so you have

00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:54.400
them exercise together. So you accomplish it

00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:56.920
together and you get a lot happening when they

00:40:56.920 --> 00:41:01.760
can do that in that way. So there was in the

00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:07.380
18... you know, 40s going up to the 90s, this

00:41:07.380 --> 00:41:11.659
really interesting moment where we were concerned

00:41:11.659 --> 00:41:17.139
about food and food quality. There were these

00:41:17.139 --> 00:41:19.880
clinics people would go to and learn all about

00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:22.679
it. Like, hey, how should I be eating? You know,

00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:24.780
what should I be doing? Because I know some of

00:41:24.780 --> 00:41:26.559
the food's getting bad. Well, in the 80s and

00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:30.300
90s, 1880s and 90s, they were just starting to

00:41:30.300 --> 00:41:33.679
come out with. Vegetable oil products, that was

00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:37.539
starting to happen. The meats, things were being

00:41:37.539 --> 00:41:44.639
shipped. They had problems with sugar starting

00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:46.360
to get introduced. There was a lot of stuff happening.

00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:51.280
So what should we be doing about that? And during

00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:56.739
the early 1900s, there was a concerted effort

00:41:56.739 --> 00:42:02.869
to bring about And it had been happening, what

00:42:02.869 --> 00:42:05.630
was working in Europe, and that is your classical

00:42:05.630 --> 00:42:10.889
physical education. And with that, and we'd been

00:42:10.889 --> 00:42:12.690
doing it in parts here and there, and it was

00:42:12.690 --> 00:42:17.550
really at it. But then we had 1919 happen, 1918.

00:42:18.469 --> 00:42:21.070
And there was two things. It was like a double

00:42:21.070 --> 00:42:24.360
punch that really took us off our game. Because

00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:27.840
you go back to 1910 and go look at us compared

00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:31.460
to other countries, and we were on point. We

00:42:31.460 --> 00:42:37.079
were doing great. 1919, United States enters

00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:39.579
World War I, and it's game over. We're a force

00:42:39.579 --> 00:42:41.320
to be reckoned with. We're nobody. We'd never

00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:43.159
been part of anything, but we had a fit people.

00:42:44.900 --> 00:42:49.440
But then you have the Spanish flu breakout, and

00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:51.690
you had a lot of fear. You had a lot of fear

00:42:51.690 --> 00:42:56.469
in society. And after World War I happens, which

00:42:56.469 --> 00:42:59.610
we got dragged in because of Europe, the country

00:42:59.610 --> 00:43:01.750
becomes disillusioned with Europe and all things

00:43:01.750 --> 00:43:06.309
Europe. And we had these gyms. And in the gyms,

00:43:06.309 --> 00:43:09.010
there were things like Indian clubs and Persian

00:43:09.010 --> 00:43:13.150
meals and wands and, you know, gadas and all

00:43:13.150 --> 00:43:17.869
this old school stuff. Dumbbells. And it all

00:43:17.869 --> 00:43:21.469
ropes, it all gets replaced with balls and sports

00:43:21.469 --> 00:43:24.510
because all that other stuff came from Europe

00:43:24.510 --> 00:43:26.349
and they didn't like Europe because what happened

00:43:26.349 --> 00:43:28.590
with Europe? Spanish flu comes from, everything

00:43:28.590 --> 00:43:30.789
is from Europe, right? We hated what just happened

00:43:30.789 --> 00:43:34.530
to us. And so we go balls and sports. We get

00:43:34.530 --> 00:43:36.989
out of the fundamentals of classical physical

00:43:36.989 --> 00:43:41.309
education that had existed. We can't find the

00:43:41.309 --> 00:43:43.969
beginnings of them. We really can't. It just

00:43:43.969 --> 00:43:47.809
seems like. A really well -functioning society

00:43:47.809 --> 00:43:52.289
always had some elements of the same stuff. And

00:43:52.289 --> 00:43:56.150
so we stop. And that's our situation going through

00:43:56.150 --> 00:43:59.949
the 30s. There was a little bit of renaissance

00:43:59.949 --> 00:44:02.429
as we saw Muscle Beach. The first beginnings

00:44:02.429 --> 00:44:04.949
of Muscle Beach was a look back to what was working

00:44:04.949 --> 00:44:08.269
at one point. But there was a guy named Griffin.

00:44:09.010 --> 00:44:13.710
And he was a... He was there in Redwood City.

00:44:13.869 --> 00:44:16.809
He was a guy that was kind of doing what always

00:44:16.809 --> 00:44:18.809
was happening that they do, the original classical

00:44:18.809 --> 00:44:22.190
physical education. He never stopped doing it

00:44:22.190 --> 00:44:27.309
there. But most places, we got out of it. And

00:44:27.309 --> 00:44:29.070
in the late 20s, we have a film that's in The

00:44:29.070 --> 00:44:31.469
Motivation Factor, and it is a propaganda film.

00:44:31.809 --> 00:44:33.889
And it's showing elementary schools and the kids

00:44:33.889 --> 00:44:37.809
doing hopping exercises for their feet to help

00:44:37.809 --> 00:44:39.670
the arch and the foot, and it's helping them.

00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:43.320
to elongate the spine, you know, by hanging upside

00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:45.579
down and doing all these things that we know

00:44:45.579 --> 00:44:49.420
to work. And they were correcting posture from

00:44:49.420 --> 00:44:51.920
one semester to the next. The school, the school

00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:53.739
teacher, they saw, hey, this kid has a school

00:44:53.739 --> 00:44:55.880
posture issue. Okay, let's use the physical fitness

00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:58.820
protocols that we know about. And they were using

00:44:58.820 --> 00:45:00.400
that. That was physical education. And they were

00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:03.440
fixing kids in all these places. So that's where

00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:05.679
we used to be. But they had to come out with

00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:08.960
this propaganda film because it was Beverly Hills.

00:45:10.329 --> 00:45:13.190
school district that did it because it had already

00:45:13.190 --> 00:45:19.449
stopped by 1926. We had stopped that fast. Anyway,

00:45:19.590 --> 00:45:21.789
it didn't exactly start again. Enter World War

00:45:21.789 --> 00:45:24.429
II, well, we got a big problem then. And so there's

00:45:24.429 --> 00:45:26.730
this monster effort to go back and bring these

00:45:26.730 --> 00:45:27.969
people who actually knew what they're doing,

00:45:28.070 --> 00:45:30.289
get them back in the military, figure out how

00:45:30.289 --> 00:45:33.030
to quickly get people in shape. And so there

00:45:33.030 --> 00:45:34.989
are a lot of people that got interested in physical

00:45:34.989 --> 00:45:38.460
fitness and stuff because of World War II. And

00:45:38.460 --> 00:45:40.940
then they went back and they started getting

00:45:40.940 --> 00:45:44.880
jobs and they're school teachers. Well, you had

00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:46.659
a number of people. You have Eisenhower's president

00:45:46.659 --> 00:45:50.159
of the United States. There's this back doctor

00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:53.579
named Hans Krauss. And he came from Germany before

00:45:53.579 --> 00:45:58.639
World War II. He basically fled Germany just

00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:03.460
before it. And he does this study in the United

00:46:03.460 --> 00:46:05.900
States. He's kind of a famous back surgeon doctor.

00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:08.900
He does this study in the United States looking

00:46:08.900 --> 00:46:12.019
at six essential things a person must be able

00:46:12.019 --> 00:46:15.159
to do. If you can't do all six, you will have

00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:18.719
back pain in your lifetime. And they do a test

00:46:18.719 --> 00:46:20.800
and they go over to Europe and they're finding

00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:23.800
their kids are getting maybe 8 % of them. 9 %

00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:25.380
of them are failing the test, you know, in Finland,

00:46:25.420 --> 00:46:29.800
different places. United States is 54%. Eisenhower

00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:32.340
freaks out. By the way, they did that test again

00:46:32.340 --> 00:46:38.139
in 1984 and it was 84%. Ron Jones did that test

00:46:38.139 --> 00:46:40.539
about five years ago to every kid who could test

00:46:40.539 --> 00:46:43.920
and they were all failing. Like there's a reason

00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:46.320
why we're in bad shape and why people are having

00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:49.340
back pain is we can't do fundamental basic things.

00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:52.579
But again, that test was given in Finland and

00:46:52.579 --> 00:46:55.920
they were doing like 8 % were failing. And that

00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:57.800
test, if it were given today, they still would

00:46:57.800 --> 00:46:59.579
probably be doing really well compared to the

00:46:59.579 --> 00:47:02.820
United States. So we got a problem. That's becoming

00:47:02.820 --> 00:47:05.300
worse. So Eisenhower sees this and he creates

00:47:05.300 --> 00:47:07.380
the Presidential Fitness Council. Like, we've

00:47:07.380 --> 00:47:09.980
got to fix this problem. Let's create a Presidential

00:47:09.980 --> 00:47:13.260
Fitness Council. They bring in really impressive

00:47:13.260 --> 00:47:15.920
people in that first group. They're trying to

00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:17.860
get it, but you know, it's politics. No one's

00:47:17.860 --> 00:47:20.159
getting anything done. Right about that time,

00:47:20.300 --> 00:47:24.559
we have Kennedy, John F. Kennedy. He's a senator

00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:27.699
and he's really concerned about it. His back

00:47:27.699 --> 00:47:30.800
problem and his back doctor is that Hans Krauss.

00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:34.320
So as you imagine, Krause is feeding him every

00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:37.679
time he's seen him. And so it becomes an issue

00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:41.000
for Kennedy. And so Kennedy becomes president.

00:47:41.099 --> 00:47:44.440
He's visiting Aerojet out in Rancho Cordova,

00:47:44.500 --> 00:47:48.300
Sacramento, right by where I grew up. And he

00:47:48.300 --> 00:47:52.280
has a chance to go meet with Stan LaPrade, who's

00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:54.800
a coach at La Sierra High, who is doing this

00:47:54.800 --> 00:48:00.420
exact classical PE system that this Griffin guy.

00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:04.059
kept doing in Redwood City, California. Well,

00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:06.420
the difference, the only difference was, is Stan

00:48:06.420 --> 00:48:09.079
LaPrade was a brand new, out of college guy,

00:48:09.260 --> 00:48:12.360
out of military. First job was over there with

00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:15.119
Griffin. Learned on, and then he gets his own

00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:17.519
job being a head coach, you know, head of PE

00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:21.780
for this new school, brand new school in Carmichael,

00:48:21.820 --> 00:48:25.400
California called La Sierra High. and it was

00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:28.599
fed by three military bases, all the kids. So

00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:31.400
you had all the parents were military -esque.

00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:37.340
The superintendent had been the captain of a

00:48:37.340 --> 00:48:40.659
battleship. The principal had been a major guy

00:48:40.659 --> 00:48:43.019
in the military. La Prada had been in it. La

00:48:43.019 --> 00:48:45.639
Prada had been trained. So you got parents' support.

00:48:45.900 --> 00:48:48.239
You got all the school support. You have everyone's

00:48:48.239 --> 00:48:50.440
support, and he had just been fully trained in

00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:52.119
the system that had never changed, and so he

00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:55.289
just comes in. implements the program without

00:48:55.289 --> 00:48:58.070
a hitch. Like, it just works. Like, this is no

00:48:58.070 --> 00:48:59.710
big deal. Everyone's like, yeah, this is great.

00:48:59.789 --> 00:49:01.650
This is all stuff we're familiar with. They have

00:49:01.650 --> 00:49:04.530
no problem. And that program existed all the

00:49:04.530 --> 00:49:06.170
way until the day they closed the school because

00:49:06.170 --> 00:49:07.849
of districting. They just didn't need the school

00:49:07.849 --> 00:49:13.570
anymore. And so the motivation factor looks back

00:49:13.570 --> 00:49:15.889
at that, and John F. Kennedy meets with him in

00:49:15.889 --> 00:49:18.110
1962, and he's so excited about what they're

00:49:18.110 --> 00:49:21.750
doing that he knows he's going to desegregate

00:49:21.750 --> 00:49:24.500
the schools. You know, we're going to have blacks

00:49:24.500 --> 00:49:26.219
and whites in the same schools for the first

00:49:26.219 --> 00:49:29.320
time in the South. And what's that going to be

00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:32.260
like? How do you suddenly unify races when they're

00:49:32.260 --> 00:49:34.860
not getting along well? How do you do that? I

00:49:34.860 --> 00:49:36.440
mean, just being the same algebra class, does

00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:39.460
that just solve it? Do you learn unity by integrating

00:49:39.460 --> 00:49:41.460
the flux on the bottom half of a cylinder in

00:49:41.460 --> 00:49:44.480
calculus? You know, like what makes you unified?

00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:46.840
How do you do that? When you do that, obviously

00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:49.079
you do that when you're doing physical activity

00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:53.860
together in motion. And he was classically trained.

00:49:53.960 --> 00:49:55.699
He saw what they were doing and said, this is

00:49:55.699 --> 00:49:58.340
our solution. So he writes about them in Look

00:49:58.340 --> 00:50:00.840
Magazine. He writes about them in Sports Illustrated.

00:50:00.860 --> 00:50:06.719
And it becomes the topic. Like, it's huge. You

00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:08.179
have the President of the United States making

00:50:08.179 --> 00:50:12.099
a big push. They follow it in 4 ,000 different

00:50:12.099 --> 00:50:15.539
high schools. Well, Stanley Prade writes the

00:50:15.539 --> 00:50:17.940
President, and he writes the Presidential Fitness

00:50:17.940 --> 00:50:20.420
Council a letter to explain how this whole thing

00:50:20.420 --> 00:50:23.280
works. And the title of his letter is called

00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:27.460
The Motivation Factor. So that's where the film

00:50:27.460 --> 00:50:31.199
title comes from. And you look at it, it's all

00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:33.039
in this letter. It's a really interesting way

00:50:33.039 --> 00:50:36.420
he lays out. In order to motivate people, you

00:50:36.420 --> 00:50:39.280
need external and internal motivation factors.

00:50:40.139 --> 00:50:43.900
You've got to appeal to them both ways, not just

00:50:43.900 --> 00:50:48.780
one side. And so externally, they had them wear

00:50:48.780 --> 00:50:52.360
color system, kind of like a... belt system with

00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:54.739
karate they had different color shorts you know

00:50:54.739 --> 00:50:58.960
you start with white shorts and after you and

00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:01.780
you start as a team you're part of a team but

00:51:01.780 --> 00:51:04.039
you also are individually you want to be able

00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:06.019
to do some specific things as well that you get

00:51:06.019 --> 00:51:08.659
rewarded for that are in addition to your color

00:51:08.659 --> 00:51:12.400
thing and and so you're individually incented

00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:15.260
to perform well and more pull -ups more push

00:51:15.260 --> 00:51:17.900
-ups more all those things faster running whatever

00:51:19.139 --> 00:51:21.760
But at the same time, as a group, you want your

00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:23.940
team to progress from white level up to blue

00:51:23.940 --> 00:51:26.119
level and all these different color red and all

00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:28.440
these different color levels to you, you know,

00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:30.659
as a group. And they become more challenging,

00:51:30.739 --> 00:51:33.500
but you have this fundamental base and idea is

00:51:33.500 --> 00:51:36.199
that you move at least each year. And they were

00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:38.920
able to get all the kids to progress from one

00:51:38.920 --> 00:51:40.659
level to the next. I think they may have had

00:51:40.659 --> 00:51:43.320
two that didn't like the whole time. They were

00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:45.559
always able to get them up to blue level. All

00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:47.570
right. That's like 10 pull -ups. You've got an

00:51:47.570 --> 00:51:50.030
entire school doing 10 pull -ups. Right now,

00:51:50.030 --> 00:51:52.090
to get into the Marines, you need to be able

00:51:52.090 --> 00:51:55.329
to do three, and to graduate, you need six. It

00:51:55.329 --> 00:51:57.730
used to be in the Army, I just met a guy at Gold's

00:51:57.730 --> 00:52:01.309
Gym. He's 79 years old. He could do more pull

00:52:01.309 --> 00:52:02.909
-ups than anyone I've ever met. He says he used

00:52:02.909 --> 00:52:04.889
to not be able to do a pull -up at all. He went

00:52:04.889 --> 00:52:07.369
into the Army, and when he was in the Army, to

00:52:07.369 --> 00:52:09.510
go to the mess hall, you had to be able to do

00:52:09.510 --> 00:52:13.039
10 pull -ups. You had to do 10 pull -ups. And

00:52:13.039 --> 00:52:14.880
then you had to do 10 pull -ups every time you

00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:16.920
ate. So you had to do pull -ups every time you

00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:20.360
went in there. And 10, 10 pull -ups, you're not

00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:23.519
eating. So, you know, you work pretty hard. And

00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:25.900
they get these kids to be able to do stuff. Well,

00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:28.380
today, you know, go find any kid and hop on the

00:52:28.380 --> 00:52:30.059
bar. And if you find anyone who could do 10 pull

00:52:30.059 --> 00:52:32.340
-ups, you're really impressed with that. I could

00:52:32.340 --> 00:52:36.300
do 10 pull -ups. I'm 52. But, you know, I have

00:52:36.300 --> 00:52:38.500
always been able to do that. But it's really

00:52:38.500 --> 00:52:41.739
interesting to see how many today. They can't

00:52:41.739 --> 00:52:44.159
even hang on the bar. We have people go out and

00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:46.519
play, and they'll do ziplining, kids. They'll

00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:48.539
hang on the zipline, and they just drop. Like,

00:52:48.539 --> 00:52:51.059
it's dangerous. We've got rid of pull -up bars

00:52:51.059 --> 00:52:52.579
in most places because people are getting hurt

00:52:52.579 --> 00:52:54.280
on a pull -up bar. How do you get hurt on a pull

00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:55.960
-up bar? How do you get hurt on these things?

00:52:56.199 --> 00:52:58.019
These are inanimate objects. They didn't used

00:52:58.019 --> 00:52:59.900
to hurt people. Why are they hurting people now?

00:53:01.239 --> 00:53:04.099
They were still human beings. Body parts haven't

00:53:04.099 --> 00:53:09.610
changed. So what we're doing is we're de -evolving

00:53:09.610 --> 00:53:12.090
as a society. And unfortunately, there are genetic

00:53:12.090 --> 00:53:15.389
markers that get screwed up when you become unhealthy

00:53:15.389 --> 00:53:18.230
and then you keep having kids. You can go the

00:53:18.230 --> 00:53:21.750
wrong direction as a population. So this isn't

00:53:21.750 --> 00:53:24.070
just kind of important. This impacts everything.

00:53:24.849 --> 00:53:28.730
And so I started there. And The Motivation Factor

00:53:28.730 --> 00:53:33.909
really wasn't a movie about high school PE. It

00:53:33.909 --> 00:53:37.730
wasn't. It wasn't to me. It was for us as adults

00:53:37.730 --> 00:53:40.690
to watch and hopefully motivate us as adults

00:53:40.690 --> 00:53:43.530
of what we need to do for ourselves and to turn

00:53:43.530 --> 00:53:45.789
our situation around. Because it's a baby boomer

00:53:45.789 --> 00:53:48.789
problem. Baby boomers will bankrupt America in

00:53:48.789 --> 00:53:52.670
the year 2020. Those listening, if this is recorded

00:53:52.670 --> 00:53:55.469
and it's past 2030, they'll go, wow, that filmmaker

00:53:55.469 --> 00:53:58.829
actually said it was 2030. But we will have a

00:53:58.829 --> 00:54:02.050
depression within a year or two of 2030. It'll

00:54:02.050 --> 00:54:04.480
be a social security trigger. I'm not the one

00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:05.820
calling this. I mean, I have these economists

00:54:05.820 --> 00:54:09.400
that work with us. And we're grossly unfunded.

00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:12.260
But Medicare and that, there's not enough money

00:54:12.260 --> 00:54:14.719
to pay the bills. We're going to have a real

00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:16.900
big problem. And the only thing that's going

00:54:16.900 --> 00:54:18.420
to turn it around is if we suddenly get in shape.

00:54:18.579 --> 00:54:20.400
And they can. We can do this. It's not hard.

00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:23.179
So the question by Dan Party, he asked in the

00:54:23.179 --> 00:54:25.199
film, his PhD out of Stanford, he asked the question,

00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:28.860
how do you make someone love being a healthy

00:54:28.860 --> 00:54:31.739
person? And when you got to this issue that you

00:54:31.739 --> 00:54:36.329
talked about with The drugs. When you look at

00:54:36.329 --> 00:54:40.230
exercise, what you really are looking at in most

00:54:40.230 --> 00:54:42.110
things, in almost everything, you're looking

00:54:42.110 --> 00:54:46.409
at a chemical exchange between the synapses and

00:54:46.409 --> 00:54:50.329
dendrites in our brain. And it's chemicals that

00:54:50.329 --> 00:54:53.389
are going back and forth. We are chemically dependent

00:54:53.389 --> 00:54:59.329
beings as humans. We need chemicals. We are motivated

00:54:59.329 --> 00:55:04.090
by our chemical need. And we can get it a number

00:55:04.090 --> 00:55:06.230
of ways. You can get the dopamine released by

00:55:06.230 --> 00:55:08.130
exercise, but in order to get it, you've got

00:55:08.130 --> 00:55:10.510
to be in shape, good enough shape that your brain,

00:55:10.710 --> 00:55:12.849
your heart, and your muscles can work together

00:55:12.849 --> 00:55:16.710
to release it. And so somebody who's not in shape

00:55:16.710 --> 00:55:18.329
and just starting to exercise, they're not going

00:55:18.329 --> 00:55:21.289
to get that great reward system. It might take

00:55:21.289 --> 00:55:23.590
them six months. But once they have it, they

00:55:23.590 --> 00:55:25.030
become addicted and it gets better and better.

00:55:25.510 --> 00:55:27.570
And they want to exercise more and more. They

00:55:27.570 --> 00:55:30.309
just can't wait until tomorrow morning because

00:55:30.309 --> 00:55:33.380
of how it makes them feel. So I exercise because

00:55:33.380 --> 00:55:36.900
of how it makes me feel. Ultimately, I realized

00:55:36.900 --> 00:55:39.780
when I don't exercise that I'm one of those guys

00:55:39.780 --> 00:55:42.199
that has a little bit of a depression issue from

00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:44.300
time to time. But anyone knowing me said, well,

00:55:44.360 --> 00:55:46.280
that's impossible. You're not. Well, I don't

00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:48.960
have the problem as long as I exercise. It'll

00:55:48.960 --> 00:55:52.320
show up the day I decide to stop for like two

00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:56.480
or three, four or five days. i don't i'm not

00:55:56.480 --> 00:55:58.159
the same guy anymore i'm not interested to be

00:55:58.159 --> 00:56:00.119
around other people but i'm a totally different

00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:02.920
human being by exercising and so we're talking

00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:06.039
about the 80 people right now we're not talking

00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:08.179
about the person who's really screwed up and

00:56:08.179 --> 00:56:10.440
you know that that getting out there and running

00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:13.179
is not going to fix it for him but for the majority

00:56:13.179 --> 00:56:17.079
of us this is kind of this is what we need and

00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:20.659
and um and so the drug prob the problem with

00:56:20.659 --> 00:56:23.940
drugs and stimulants is it rewires the brain

00:56:24.959 --> 00:56:26.860
The brain's not stupid. It's like, oh, I got

00:56:26.860 --> 00:56:28.500
that release. My body just got that release.

00:56:28.699 --> 00:56:30.659
And all I had to do is take that pill. I didn't

00:56:30.659 --> 00:56:32.539
have to go out there at 4 .30 in the morning

00:56:32.539 --> 00:56:35.039
and it's really cold outside and start running

00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:37.059
for 45 minutes or an hour and a half and have

00:56:37.059 --> 00:56:38.900
that experience or go hit the gym or do these

00:56:38.900 --> 00:56:43.719
things. But the same thing with reward for work.

00:56:44.179 --> 00:56:47.059
We get the release when we do a good job. We

00:56:47.059 --> 00:56:49.940
put the effort out. We have this. It's just our

00:56:49.940 --> 00:56:53.159
brains give it to us. But we could feel that

00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:54.639
way by just taking the drug too. And once that

00:56:54.639 --> 00:56:57.860
happens, oh, good luck rewiring it. There's a

00:56:57.860 --> 00:57:00.579
lot of work. That's hard. That's some hard stuff.

00:57:01.300 --> 00:57:04.699
And that's the addictions. And so we're a complex

00:57:04.699 --> 00:57:10.059
system that requires movement. It requires movement.

00:57:10.139 --> 00:57:11.820
And the hardest thing for that brain to do is

00:57:11.820 --> 00:57:15.380
to move your arms around and physically do things

00:57:15.380 --> 00:57:18.099
way harder. than it is for it to integrate the

00:57:18.099 --> 00:57:19.900
flux on the bottom half of a cylinder. My math

00:57:19.900 --> 00:57:22.900
example I used a few minutes ago. So you're not

00:57:22.900 --> 00:57:24.380
doing much when you're sitting there thinking,

00:57:24.500 --> 00:57:26.860
but you're doing an awful lot when you're moving

00:57:26.860 --> 00:57:29.820
that arm around and doing a complex motion. Your

00:57:29.820 --> 00:57:32.940
heart becomes elevated and a whole system gets

00:57:32.940 --> 00:57:36.619
going. And so we have to move. And I learned

00:57:36.619 --> 00:57:41.199
for productivity that if I set my alarm in every

00:57:41.199 --> 00:57:44.670
50 minutes or 40 minutes, It goes off and I go

00:57:44.670 --> 00:57:46.409
outside and do 10 minutes of something and I

00:57:46.409 --> 00:57:48.429
come back. By the end of the day, I accomplish

00:57:48.429 --> 00:57:53.170
more than if I don't do that. And if I'm doing

00:57:53.170 --> 00:57:55.809
something really creative and really hard, I

00:57:55.809 --> 00:58:00.409
set it at 20 minutes. And I actually end up getting

00:58:00.409 --> 00:58:03.949
way, way more done. When I first started doing

00:58:03.949 --> 00:58:06.570
this, my productivity from one year to the next

00:58:06.570 --> 00:58:10.329
doubled. My income tripled. My productivity doubled.

00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:13.659
And needless to say, I became pretty hooked.

00:58:14.139 --> 00:58:17.320
I was like, why would I not do this? And then

00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:19.619
we can look at the people who are super, super

00:58:19.619 --> 00:58:23.059
successful. And we see that physical side to

00:58:23.059 --> 00:58:25.860
them. It's an exception to find that other guy,

00:58:25.940 --> 00:58:29.280
the Michael Moore -looking individual. He's much

00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:31.780
more rare. You see a Ken Burns -looking person.

00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:35.820
You know, you see the guy who did Fat, Sick,

00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:38.429
and Nearly Dead. I know that guy. I should be

00:58:38.429 --> 00:58:44.269
saying his name. I don't know him, but Joe Cross.

00:58:44.489 --> 00:58:49.989
The Australian guy. Yeah. And, you know, I'm

00:58:49.989 --> 00:58:52.170
bad with names. It's now becoming very obvious.

00:58:52.349 --> 00:58:54.449
But the guy who did the McDonald's thing, right?

00:58:54.570 --> 00:58:57.769
Super Size Me. He's a good -shaped guy. You start

00:58:57.769 --> 00:58:59.969
looking through. That's just film, right? And

00:58:59.969 --> 00:59:03.449
you start looking around in CEOs. And you start

00:59:03.449 --> 00:59:06.250
looking at entrepreneurs. And generally speaking,

00:59:06.409 --> 00:59:09.050
you're looking at people who are in shape. It

00:59:09.050 --> 00:59:11.889
is a big part of their life. That 5 a .m. crowd

00:59:11.889 --> 00:59:14.750
at the gym or whatever, they get it in. They

00:59:14.750 --> 00:59:18.789
have to get it in. And so how do we do this as

00:59:18.789 --> 00:59:21.989
a country? Because the film came out, I thought,

00:59:22.030 --> 00:59:23.730
oh, this is going to change everything. Here

00:59:23.730 --> 00:59:25.710
we go. Well, let me ask you that a second because

00:59:25.710 --> 00:59:30.289
I'm in this space and I'm looking for films like

00:59:30.289 --> 00:59:33.570
that and it didn't come up on my radar. So from

00:59:33.570 --> 00:59:38.420
a kind of... marketing perspective why wasn't

00:59:38.420 --> 00:59:41.699
the motivation factor firstly on all screens

00:59:41.699 --> 00:59:44.059
all the net netflix recommended but secondly

00:59:44.059 --> 00:59:46.380
at least in the wellness space because there's

00:59:46.380 --> 00:59:48.159
a lot of people i know that are in the same kind

00:59:48.159 --> 00:59:50.320
of space that hadn't heard of it and i was only

00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:52.420
i only heard of it because one of my guests mike

00:59:52.420 --> 00:59:55.260
salami told you about it yeah that's a really

00:59:55.260 --> 00:59:58.769
good question when we made that movie we thought

00:59:58.769 --> 01:00:00.769
we had funding in the beginning and there's a

01:00:00.769 --> 01:00:02.789
big corporations and everybody. We wasted a lot

01:00:02.789 --> 01:00:04.670
of time. I mean, a full year, year and a half,

01:00:04.789 --> 01:00:08.190
just chasing the money for the movie. And it

01:00:08.190 --> 01:00:11.469
ended up being a complete waste of time. And

01:00:11.469 --> 01:00:13.329
those involved in trying to come up who had that

01:00:13.329 --> 01:00:14.690
responsibility, I finally said, let's just do

01:00:14.690 --> 01:00:17.010
a crowdfunding video. So I did a crowdfunding

01:00:17.010 --> 01:00:20.090
video. We put it out there and it goes viral.

01:00:20.150 --> 01:00:23.110
Eventually gets 50 million social media impressions,

01:00:23.329 --> 01:00:28.500
which is a lot. But the problem was, it wasn't

01:00:28.500 --> 01:00:33.780
my copy. People were taking the copy and re -uploading

01:00:33.780 --> 01:00:36.380
on their own Facebook. They were lifting it.

01:00:36.500 --> 01:00:40.000
And then where it just says, click here to support

01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:43.420
the film, you know, for the crowdfunding. I didn't

01:00:43.420 --> 01:00:46.599
put the link. I just thought, never in my mind

01:00:46.599 --> 01:00:48.679
did I think someone would do this. They would

01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:52.980
change the link so it went to where they were

01:00:52.980 --> 01:00:55.460
selling fitness apparel. I'm not making this

01:00:55.460 --> 01:00:59.320
up. And so the thing ends up getting all these

01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:01.559
views, but we didn't get the money. I think we

01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:04.880
raised less than $40 ,000 or something. And you

01:01:04.880 --> 01:01:07.380
can't do much of a major motion picture. I edited

01:01:07.380 --> 01:01:09.420
that film four separate times, six months each

01:01:09.420 --> 01:01:11.739
time. I mean, it was a four -year of my life

01:01:11.739 --> 01:01:15.300
project. I'm supplemented by doing other stuff.

01:01:16.300 --> 01:01:18.340
And so we didn't really have marketing dough.

01:01:18.460 --> 01:01:20.659
But I did still get, because of all that, there

01:01:20.659 --> 01:01:23.360
was a lot of attention that received. I was on

01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:25.519
Fox and Friends, you know, for 15 minutes, you

01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:28.159
know, the morning show. And it got a lot of attention

01:01:28.159 --> 01:01:33.300
in 2017, a little bit in 2017. And it was on

01:01:33.300 --> 01:01:38.239
iTunes, Amazon, Google Play. It's there. But

01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:42.760
as far as Netflix picking it up, Netflix did

01:01:42.760 --> 01:01:45.920
not want, they weren't interested. We submitted

01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:48.199
to Sundance Film Festival. They didn't pick it

01:01:48.199 --> 01:01:51.340
up. They wrote a letter. We got 13 ,600 submittals

01:01:51.340 --> 01:01:53.739
for documentaries this year. And I looked and

01:01:53.739 --> 01:01:55.800
I could see where I submitted with a view. It

01:01:55.800 --> 01:01:57.599
never was watched. Like it would show a click

01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:00.639
when I submitted it. I give it to Netflix to

01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:04.280
review and they turned down. Nothing happens.

01:02:04.500 --> 01:02:06.139
But I know they never watched it because I kept

01:02:06.139 --> 01:02:07.599
looking back. They had a clean link as well.

01:02:08.300 --> 01:02:10.159
Later, four years later, I go back to that link.

01:02:10.260 --> 01:02:11.880
It has a password and stuff. It's a Vimeo thing.

01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:15.380
There's 14 ,600 views on that thing. What's that?

01:02:16.179 --> 01:02:20.159
Somebody at Netflix shared the link. So somebody

01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:22.559
eventually got around to watching it, liked it

01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:25.380
enough to share it, and they just went out there

01:02:25.380 --> 01:02:27.300
and I wasn't paying attention to it. That was

01:02:27.300 --> 01:02:30.340
a pain. So to answer your question, it really

01:02:30.340 --> 01:02:34.239
never got that kind of support. Because I saw

01:02:34.239 --> 01:02:37.460
Tiger King pop up. And that didn't enrich my

01:02:37.460 --> 01:02:38.840
life in any way, shape, or form. No, no, no,

01:02:38.840 --> 01:02:41.159
no. And, you know, as a filmmaker, I will tell

01:02:41.159 --> 01:02:44.280
you, it is, I know it will make me money. Like,

01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:46.519
you got to do things that will make money. And

01:02:46.519 --> 01:02:51.480
it's difficult. You know, you come up with the

01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:53.880
really good independent stuff. It's a cult following.

01:02:54.039 --> 01:02:55.960
That's what you end up getting. And there's a

01:02:55.960 --> 01:02:57.699
cult following. I mean, it definitely has that.

01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:03.360
But it's not, it's the message itself is not

01:03:03.360 --> 01:03:07.980
one that. the academic world wants at all well

01:03:07.980 --> 01:03:10.380
and that's my point i felt like you know it's

01:03:10.380 --> 01:03:13.300
a film that should have been seen especially

01:03:13.300 --> 01:03:15.739
if there was ever a time to watch this film it

01:03:15.739 --> 01:03:18.719
was the last two years oh and it was it may not

01:03:18.719 --> 01:03:22.860
be suppressed but the culture is such that the

01:03:22.860 --> 01:03:25.219
absolute shit that was on a lot of the streaming

01:03:25.219 --> 01:03:28.909
sites that was front and center none of that

01:03:28.909 --> 01:03:31.489
was to do with health, nutrition, mindfulness,

01:03:31.949 --> 01:03:34.010
you know, any of that stuff. And this would have

01:03:34.010 --> 01:03:37.269
been a beautiful seed to sow at the beginning

01:03:37.269 --> 01:03:40.769
so that two years in, we might have a bunch of

01:03:40.769 --> 01:03:42.690
high schools and middle schools that are doing

01:03:42.690 --> 01:03:46.809
proper PE. My son is in high school. About a

01:03:46.809 --> 01:03:50.010
month in, he's like, Dad, I'm going to join JROTC.

01:03:50.110 --> 01:03:52.429
I was like, wow, that's a change. He said, we're

01:03:52.429 --> 01:03:55.030
not doing anything in PE. We just sit there and

01:03:55.030 --> 01:04:00.699
read stuff. So he joined JROTC and kudos to that

01:04:00.699 --> 01:04:02.519
program. It's amazing. And they have a kind of

01:04:02.519 --> 01:04:05.719
hierarchy, you know, that they do excel in a

01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:07.599
certain physical thing. They get pins, you know,

01:04:07.619 --> 01:04:09.960
academic. I went to an award ceremony last night

01:04:09.960 --> 01:04:12.619
where he got awarded for his academic achievement.

01:04:13.460 --> 01:04:17.639
As you say in the film, you know, what the JROTC

01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:21.179
kids or the sports program kids get, every single

01:04:21.179 --> 01:04:23.800
child should be getting. And if I have a son

01:04:23.800 --> 01:04:26.969
that... doesn't want to do pe because he wants

01:04:26.969 --> 01:04:28.570
to go to another class where he can actually

01:04:28.570 --> 01:04:31.889
do exercise that's a fucking tragedy you know

01:04:31.889 --> 01:04:35.269
travesty absolutely so your film is so important

01:04:35.269 --> 01:04:39.590
to educate us the parents of the world to start

01:04:39.590 --> 01:04:41.650
asking the right questions to start getting things

01:04:41.650 --> 01:04:44.929
like this changed in our schools because a three

01:04:44.929 --> 01:04:47.469
-hour standardized test for a nine -year -old

01:04:47.469 --> 01:04:50.670
kid is not how we create healthy humans no the

01:04:50.670 --> 01:04:54.239
whole the whole thing unfortunately The whole

01:04:54.239 --> 01:04:56.159
school system's got some pretty big issues. I

01:04:56.159 --> 01:04:59.320
was pretty sensitive to schools in general. I

01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:01.920
mentioned I got a Master of Library Science at

01:05:01.920 --> 01:05:04.420
Indiana University. I actually went there to

01:05:04.420 --> 01:05:09.900
get my EDD, Doctorate of Education. And I go

01:05:09.900 --> 01:05:12.119
in first day before school, before the whole

01:05:12.119 --> 01:05:13.840
thing starts, and I'm meeting with the chairman.

01:05:14.519 --> 01:05:17.960
And I'm telling him how I want to create this

01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:22.119
mentor -based education system similar to what

01:05:22.119 --> 01:05:26.989
we see. like Lund University. So something we'd

01:05:26.989 --> 01:05:29.130
see in Sweden, you know, back in the day, early

01:05:29.130 --> 01:05:32.070
day, this mentor -based education system. Old

01:05:32.070 --> 01:05:35.469
school, different way, not this, everyone's in

01:05:35.469 --> 01:05:37.110
this class, you're this age and you're in this

01:05:37.110 --> 01:05:38.789
class and you're going to move up when the whole

01:05:38.789 --> 01:05:41.130
class moves up and, you know, it's a lot more

01:05:41.130 --> 01:05:42.650
individual, you know, something that would actually

01:05:42.650 --> 01:05:46.449
be individual and work. Thomas Jefferson kind

01:05:46.449 --> 01:05:48.929
of an education, you know, the people who actually,

01:05:49.090 --> 01:05:52.760
you learn, it's not hard to improve. It's not

01:05:52.760 --> 01:05:55.519
hard to improve on what we got. So I tell him

01:05:55.519 --> 01:05:57.199
what I want to do. And he goes, you know, I got

01:05:57.199 --> 01:06:03.800
to be honest with you. Here we have a program

01:06:03.800 --> 01:06:07.019
for you to get your doctorate degree that really

01:06:07.019 --> 01:06:10.800
helps you navigate within the system. He says

01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:16.099
it that way. For example, ED 5, 720. I was like

01:06:16.099 --> 01:06:18.139
thinking, man, 720. That's a class. That's a

01:06:18.139 --> 01:06:22.219
high level class in 720. He says, there we discuss

01:06:22.219 --> 01:06:26.639
how do we interject to get taught what we want

01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:30.599
taught. It was the first time that I even thought

01:06:30.599 --> 01:06:33.400
of that age. Somebody makes a decision about

01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:37.119
what we are taught, what we're going to do with

01:06:37.119 --> 01:06:42.059
that time in the classroom. And anyway, in our

01:06:42.059 --> 01:06:44.570
discussion, I decide. This would be a waste of

01:06:44.570 --> 01:06:45.929
time for me to be here. I'm not going to waste

01:06:45.929 --> 01:06:48.289
four years of my life. He says, look, to do what

01:06:48.289 --> 01:06:49.550
you want to do, you'd be better off to go out,

01:06:49.550 --> 01:06:51.329
just make some money, and start your own school.

01:06:52.269 --> 01:06:54.090
Like, you don't have to do any of this stuff.

01:06:54.610 --> 01:07:00.929
Oh. Oh, okay, thanks. So I went out, got a master's

01:07:00.929 --> 01:07:02.409
degree while I was there on something else, and

01:07:02.409 --> 01:07:06.210
went on my way. And my son was in second grade

01:07:06.210 --> 01:07:09.590
and was not doing too great. He was liking reading,

01:07:09.730 --> 01:07:12.150
but still was struggling on that SAT 9 standardized

01:07:12.150 --> 01:07:15.090
test that they gave. It was pretty low on several

01:07:15.090 --> 01:07:17.809
places. Now we're concerned about it. And there

01:07:17.809 --> 01:07:20.409
was a traveling professor from a liberal arts

01:07:20.409 --> 01:07:22.610
school, president of it, coming and speaking.

01:07:22.730 --> 01:07:24.409
We went and listened to him. And at the end,

01:07:24.409 --> 01:07:25.909
I went and talked to him after and said, hey,

01:07:25.909 --> 01:07:28.849
my son's struggling. Second grade, he's my oldest

01:07:28.849 --> 01:07:32.820
son, oldest child we have. What should I do for

01:07:32.820 --> 01:07:35.079
him? He goes, here's what you should do. You

01:07:35.079 --> 01:07:37.659
should pull him out of school. Just pull him

01:07:37.659 --> 01:07:39.579
out. Just pull him out of school and have him

01:07:39.579 --> 01:07:44.440
read the classics. Classics, like the classics,

01:07:44.519 --> 01:07:47.179
like capital C classics, Greek stuff, Roman,

01:07:47.320 --> 01:07:50.760
I mean, the classics, you know, real stuff. Okay,

01:07:50.820 --> 01:07:52.360
well, what curriculum should I have him follow?

01:07:53.460 --> 01:07:55.179
Well, I just told you, have him read the classics.

01:07:55.559 --> 01:07:58.260
But like, what's textbook? No, no, no, no textbooks.

01:07:58.519 --> 01:08:01.230
Just have him read the classics. Okay, so we

01:08:01.230 --> 01:08:04.650
were so naive as parents and so frustrated with

01:08:04.650 --> 01:08:07.309
the school in California that I decided to actually

01:08:07.309 --> 01:08:10.070
do this. And so it's third grade. He's starting

01:08:10.070 --> 01:08:13.570
third grade. And I give him, hey, here's the

01:08:13.570 --> 01:08:18.109
Odyssey. I'll show you. He struggles to get through

01:08:18.109 --> 01:08:20.729
the Odyssey. And we're reading the headings.

01:08:20.890 --> 01:08:22.729
And I'm having him reread the first chapter.

01:08:23.050 --> 01:08:24.229
And eventually, he gets through the Odyssey.

01:08:24.689 --> 01:08:27.390
Then he tackles the Iliad. And then he goes after

01:08:27.390 --> 01:08:29.329
the Iliad. A lot easier because he had already

01:08:29.329 --> 01:08:31.670
done the Odyssey. And after that, he goes, man,

01:08:31.710 --> 01:08:33.770
dad, everything's simple, super simple to read.

01:08:33.850 --> 01:08:35.350
And he's reading stuff. And I'm having to read

01:08:35.350 --> 01:08:37.609
Greek fragments of the Odyssey and all this stuff.

01:08:37.710 --> 01:08:40.270
He gets into it. And then he's learning Greek.

01:08:40.350 --> 01:08:42.590
And then he's learning Latin. And he's doing

01:08:42.590 --> 01:08:44.029
all this stuff. And we don't have a teacher.

01:08:44.909 --> 01:08:49.149
And I'll check in on him quarterly. I'm serious

01:08:49.149 --> 01:08:52.550
about this. Now, my son just got a job. Last

01:08:52.550 --> 01:08:56.899
week, he accepted a job. He's 28 years old, just

01:08:56.899 --> 01:09:01.640
finished his PhD in economics, and he just accepted

01:09:01.640 --> 01:09:04.500
a job with the Federal Reserve Board in D .C.

01:09:04.579 --> 01:09:06.560
Wow. He wrote his dissertation on inflation,

01:09:06.640 --> 01:09:11.220
and he's in that group. He will, his team directly

01:09:11.220 --> 01:09:15.760
influences and gives reports to the chairman

01:09:15.760 --> 01:09:18.359
Powell. So he's going to be that guy, right?

01:09:20.359 --> 01:09:23.840
Once he starts there. And so it worked. It wasn't

01:09:23.840 --> 01:09:26.640
exactly a complete fail. And I watched him progress

01:09:26.640 --> 01:09:28.859
so fast. And we didn't have anything. We were

01:09:28.859 --> 01:09:31.359
following nothing. We literally just, here, read

01:09:31.359 --> 01:09:32.619
this book. And I was checking in on Cordley,

01:09:32.720 --> 01:09:36.000
inspiring him to keep going. He had to do karate.

01:09:36.039 --> 01:09:38.220
We had to do physical stuff. But the point is,

01:09:38.319 --> 01:09:44.439
he did great without anything. And I'm looking

01:09:44.439 --> 01:09:46.399
at all the money and all the effort and everything

01:09:46.399 --> 01:09:48.180
we're doing and thinking we're doing scientific.

01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:50.779
And, oh, by the way, his SAT 9 test the next

01:09:50.779 --> 01:09:53.470
year. He was already at 90th percentile instead

01:09:53.470 --> 01:09:56.109
of 25th. And the second, next year, 100th percentile.

01:09:56.369 --> 01:09:58.890
So we drop him in sixth grade. He goes into sixth

01:09:58.890 --> 01:10:03.489
grade and he starts, you know, three months into

01:10:03.489 --> 01:10:06.630
it, two, three months into it, the district president,

01:10:06.829 --> 01:10:08.850
the principal, and the teacher pulled me aside

01:10:08.850 --> 01:10:11.090
and said, hey, Doug, we need to meet with you

01:10:11.090 --> 01:10:13.590
about your son. And I'm like, what did he do?

01:10:13.770 --> 01:10:16.329
Like, you're just freaking out. And they said,

01:10:16.430 --> 01:10:18.930
well, it was just me with them. My son wasn't

01:10:18.930 --> 01:10:22.430
there. Hey, we want to know, what were you doing

01:10:22.430 --> 01:10:25.630
with your son before he came here? Because we

01:10:25.630 --> 01:10:29.430
think you should keep doing it. Like, what? Well,

01:10:29.729 --> 01:10:32.810
and the teacher's like, we got nothing for your

01:10:32.810 --> 01:10:35.989
boy. Like, he's just, we got nothing. I go, I

01:10:35.989 --> 01:10:37.329
thought you have like a gait program and stuff.

01:10:37.529 --> 01:10:39.510
Oh, yeah, we threw that at him right in the beginning,

01:10:39.569 --> 01:10:42.689
and he's bored with that. Well, he's not like

01:10:42.689 --> 01:10:44.649
some brilliant kid. He's just like everybody

01:10:44.649 --> 01:10:46.529
else. In the second grade, he was like the...

01:10:46.760 --> 01:10:48.819
These are the same kids he was in class with.

01:10:48.899 --> 01:10:51.319
And now it's sixth grade. He was below all of

01:10:51.319 --> 01:10:55.479
them. Like he's the same guy. And so I told him

01:10:55.479 --> 01:10:57.140
a little bit about what I was doing, which isn't

01:10:57.140 --> 01:10:58.560
very much. I mean, it's just what I told you.

01:10:58.979 --> 01:11:02.619
Bunch of classics. But by the way, you're learning

01:11:02.619 --> 01:11:05.720
from the best. And this is a reason I'm sharing

01:11:05.720 --> 01:11:07.500
this right now, because this absolutely applies

01:11:07.500 --> 01:11:11.890
to how we exercise. What we choose to do, how

01:11:11.890 --> 01:11:14.369
important the motion is and the quality of that

01:11:14.369 --> 01:11:18.550
motion is, it's not just exercise. The kinds

01:11:18.550 --> 01:11:21.510
of exercise we do matters tremendously. We have

01:11:21.510 --> 01:11:23.829
all these back problems, all this stuff, even

01:11:23.829 --> 01:11:25.909
by people who exercise. They're jacking up their

01:11:25.909 --> 01:11:27.310
shoulders. They're screwing up this and that.

01:11:27.710 --> 01:11:29.630
You shouldn't be doing that. You shouldn't be

01:11:29.630 --> 01:11:30.729
screwing up. There's this thing called rational

01:11:30.729 --> 01:11:33.010
training. There's this fundamental restorative

01:11:33.010 --> 01:11:35.050
arts, which was a third of physical education

01:11:35.050 --> 01:11:37.130
classically. We don't do any of that anymore.

01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:40.039
Barefoot, for example. The barefoot thing, right.

01:11:40.619 --> 01:11:45.159
Well, and the hopping exercises to form that

01:11:45.159 --> 01:11:47.359
arch in that foot so that you can go out and

01:11:47.359 --> 01:11:49.840
run. And how do you run? What's the right motion?

01:11:50.140 --> 01:11:53.720
All those things matter. Anyway, long and short

01:11:53.720 --> 01:11:57.020
of it, the teacher said he's kind of causing

01:11:57.020 --> 01:11:59.060
problems talking about the Iliad. He's saying

01:11:59.060 --> 01:12:02.680
I'm teaching it wrong. I go, well, I mean, you've

01:12:02.680 --> 01:12:05.050
read it, right? I asked, you know, that's the

01:12:05.050 --> 01:12:06.649
first question I ask. I knew my son had read

01:12:06.649 --> 01:12:08.510
it a couple of years earlier. You read it, right?

01:12:08.590 --> 01:12:11.729
He goes, I've taught it for 17 years. The district

01:12:11.729 --> 01:12:14.909
president catches that response. He looks at

01:12:14.909 --> 01:12:18.829
him, but have you read it? Well, I have the reader.

01:12:19.609 --> 01:12:22.310
So the reader's wrong. The reader doesn't even

01:12:22.310 --> 01:12:24.729
match that he's teaching out of with what the

01:12:24.729 --> 01:12:27.170
Iliad actually says. And the reason I say that

01:12:27.170 --> 01:12:30.510
is we got to understand that whatever we think

01:12:30.510 --> 01:12:34.699
we know about exercise, It has been watered down

01:12:34.699 --> 01:12:38.119
and screwed up throughout the last hundred years

01:12:38.119 --> 01:12:41.560
so badly that it doesn't even represent where

01:12:41.560 --> 01:12:45.159
we used to be. And just by going back and doing

01:12:45.159 --> 01:12:48.819
simple first grade basic exercises properly,

01:12:49.100 --> 01:12:51.979
you watch what happens to your body, your brain,

01:12:52.119 --> 01:12:54.340
everything suddenly corrects, you're back. I

01:12:54.340 --> 01:12:56.539
was going into a chiropractor three times a week

01:12:56.539 --> 01:12:58.659
and the chiropractor finally, chiropractors hate

01:12:58.659 --> 01:13:01.220
spine guys, you know, surgeons. And he says,

01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:04.609
look it. I can't fix this. You've got this thing

01:13:04.609 --> 01:13:06.609
in the bottom of your lower spine and it's throwing

01:13:06.609 --> 01:13:09.010
you out every day. I can keep doing this every

01:13:09.010 --> 01:13:10.630
day, but you're not going to be fixed. You're

01:13:10.630 --> 01:13:12.829
going to have that thing removed. So I never

01:13:12.829 --> 01:13:15.729
got removed, but I was doing the motivation factor

01:13:15.729 --> 01:13:17.949
at the time. And Ron Jones, the executive producer,

01:13:18.149 --> 01:13:19.670
introduced me to Indian clubs and showed me how

01:13:19.670 --> 01:13:21.569
to really use them. And every day I get this

01:13:21.569 --> 01:13:25.109
partial correction. It's a total fix. And it's

01:13:25.109 --> 01:13:28.329
just like going to a chiropractor. My left shoulder,

01:13:28.430 --> 01:13:30.130
I have these things out of joint. I know when

01:13:30.130 --> 01:13:32.529
I'm stopped and just haven't been doing it for

01:13:32.529 --> 01:13:35.409
a few days. I'm not in alignment like I normally

01:13:35.409 --> 01:13:38.390
am. Everything gets fixed. And I thought, wow,

01:13:38.710 --> 01:13:40.949
Indian clubs. Well, Indian clubs take effort.

01:13:41.250 --> 01:13:43.250
It's like a musical instrument. You're not really

01:13:43.250 --> 01:13:45.409
good at it for about six months of effort. You

01:13:45.409 --> 01:13:47.829
kind of learn that. It's not something that you

01:13:47.829 --> 01:13:51.710
could just pick up and do, like anything of worthwhile.

01:13:54.840 --> 01:13:58.840
But if we don't teach people in school and then

01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:01.760
work, if whatever, they provide a gym, but they're

01:14:01.760 --> 01:14:04.579
not providing instruction. If people don't know

01:14:04.579 --> 01:14:07.899
how to exercise correctly, well, they're only

01:14:07.899 --> 01:14:09.420
going to have, generally speaking, a negative

01:14:09.420 --> 01:14:11.699
experience. They're going to get injured. What's

01:14:11.699 --> 01:14:13.239
the point of this? And that's it. It's over.

01:14:13.659 --> 01:14:17.319
And so their education does matter. And as individuals,

01:14:17.539 --> 01:14:19.239
we need to make sure we're going to people who

01:14:19.239 --> 01:14:22.100
know what they're doing. The people who know

01:14:22.100 --> 01:14:23.279
what they're doing doesn't mean they just have

01:14:23.279 --> 01:14:25.279
a lot of views next to their YouTube account,

01:14:25.439 --> 01:14:29.319
right? There's more to this. And it doesn't mean

01:14:29.319 --> 01:14:31.500
that they're just, hey, look at them. They're

01:14:31.500 --> 01:14:33.039
looking at their six pack. Look how amazing they

01:14:33.039 --> 01:14:35.880
are. Yeah. Are they 28 years old? Yeah. So most

01:14:35.880 --> 01:14:38.020
people doing anything look like that at 28 years

01:14:38.020 --> 01:14:40.760
old. Follow a guy who's 65 years old that still

01:14:40.760 --> 01:14:42.920
has that six pack. Now that's the guy to follow.

01:14:43.140 --> 01:14:47.439
That's impressive, right? So all these things

01:14:47.439 --> 01:14:50.699
are really interesting to me. As I've gone through

01:14:50.699 --> 01:14:54.000
this whole process about how do we actually change

01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:57.340
the country, how do you change your family, how

01:14:57.340 --> 01:15:00.920
do you change yourself? And so I asked Dr. Rady

01:15:00.920 --> 01:15:03.159
this question at Harvard. I said, you know, and

01:15:03.159 --> 01:15:04.920
he's the guy that wrote Spark, you know, all

01:15:04.920 --> 01:15:08.960
the research about exercising the brain. He's

01:15:08.960 --> 01:15:12.180
probably done, he really is the poster child

01:15:12.180 --> 01:15:15.779
for that and got a lot of credit. of drawing

01:15:15.779 --> 01:15:17.800
out those 10 ,000 studies that have already been

01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:21.720
done, of linking exercise in the brain, health,

01:15:21.939 --> 01:15:25.899
brain health, better performance academically,

01:15:26.560 --> 01:15:31.520
better performance professionally, better relationship

01:15:31.520 --> 01:15:34.600
quality, all those things, right? All the things

01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:36.359
that we really want in our life that we think

01:15:36.359 --> 01:15:39.720
are so important, there's no way to get there

01:15:39.720 --> 01:15:43.250
without exercise. Like, you have to. You have

01:15:43.250 --> 01:15:46.090
to stress your system so it can appropriately

01:15:46.090 --> 01:15:49.789
stay healthy and do its thing. But just the right

01:15:49.789 --> 01:15:54.550
amount of stress. Use stress. Yeah. So anyway,

01:15:54.609 --> 01:15:56.350
I asked him, so how do you do this? He goes,

01:15:57.609 --> 01:15:59.250
I go, what's the right exercise? He goes, the

01:15:59.250 --> 01:16:01.930
exercise that they will do is the exercise that

01:16:01.930 --> 01:16:05.550
they will do. So you start with that. You start

01:16:05.550 --> 01:16:09.770
by having people exercise. So if I had one wish,

01:16:09.890 --> 01:16:16.560
it would be that. We could start doing real exercise

01:16:16.560 --> 01:16:23.060
at the most fundamental classical level and that

01:16:23.060 --> 01:16:25.260
we don't worry about anything else. We just look

01:16:25.260 --> 01:16:29.140
at the most basic motion exercises and we have

01:16:29.140 --> 01:16:31.760
all the kids in school go through those basic

01:16:31.760 --> 01:16:34.380
motion exercises the right way. Teach them how

01:16:34.380 --> 01:16:37.859
to do it. Teach them how to be posturally correct.

01:16:38.690 --> 01:16:40.770
Teach their feet how to get the arches back.

01:16:40.989 --> 01:16:43.569
Go back and do that for them. Because that's

01:16:43.569 --> 01:16:45.090
something that they could take with them the

01:16:45.090 --> 01:16:46.850
rest of their life. That's education that's really

01:16:46.850 --> 01:16:52.479
valuable. Yeah. I would start with that. I wouldn't

01:16:52.479 --> 01:16:55.000
be so worried about whether people can do 20

01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:57.600
pull -ups and all these other things, but they're

01:16:57.600 --> 01:16:58.859
absolutely going to have to get off the ground.

01:16:59.300 --> 01:17:02.600
Your spine is being compressed every day by gravity.

01:17:02.779 --> 01:17:05.020
You have to be off the ground to decompress it.

01:17:05.100 --> 01:17:07.199
It releases things when you do. You feel a certain

01:17:07.199 --> 01:17:09.260
thing that happens. So these are very important

01:17:09.260 --> 01:17:11.399
things to do. That's going to be grip strength.

01:17:11.520 --> 01:17:13.039
That's going to have to first start by them just

01:17:13.039 --> 01:17:15.239
hanging on the bar until they can hang for like

01:17:15.239 --> 01:17:17.239
a minute before you even think about pulling

01:17:17.239 --> 01:17:20.239
up. and then learning how to do a scapular pull

01:17:20.239 --> 01:17:21.859
-up because you're not pulling from your arms,

01:17:21.899 --> 01:17:25.260
you're pulling straight from here, and learning

01:17:25.260 --> 01:17:26.920
how to do these things correctly, that's going

01:17:26.920 --> 01:17:28.399
to involve actually the teachers knowing how

01:17:28.399 --> 01:17:31.359
to do that. And so we're at a preschool level.

01:17:31.520 --> 01:17:35.489
We kind of lost all of our knowledge. So it's

01:17:35.489 --> 01:17:38.130
bad. And then my film, it shows that there was

01:17:38.130 --> 01:17:40.729
one last school still doing that, Prescott High

01:17:40.729 --> 01:17:42.649
School. Tell me about that because I know there's

01:17:42.649 --> 01:17:44.369
a sad story behind that. Yeah, so Prescott High

01:17:44.369 --> 01:17:46.810
School, they learned. They went up and got trained

01:17:46.810 --> 01:17:50.829
in the 70s, late 60s, early 70s at La Sierra.

01:17:51.189 --> 01:17:54.069
They brought it back to the junior high level.

01:17:54.170 --> 01:17:56.210
They kind of watered it down a little bit appropriately

01:17:56.210 --> 01:18:00.130
for junior high. But it all was there. And they

01:18:00.130 --> 01:18:02.609
had a phenomenal system. And it was unchanged

01:18:02.609 --> 01:18:05.619
all the way up. The time I was filming him, everything

01:18:05.619 --> 01:18:08.079
was great. As we were getting close to COVID,

01:18:08.340 --> 01:18:12.619
the coach there gets a little bit frustrated,

01:18:12.680 --> 01:18:14.640
calls me up one day. He says, Doug, you won't

01:18:14.640 --> 01:18:19.640
believe this, but the superintendent has just

01:18:19.640 --> 01:18:23.720
made PE optional. I go, right, because of COVID?

01:18:23.920 --> 01:18:29.520
No, period. He goes, here's the problem. We've

01:18:29.520 --> 01:18:32.409
been banned from having PE. Like the schools,

01:18:32.470 --> 01:18:35.489
everybody went virtually. So I only have, you

01:18:35.489 --> 01:18:38.270
know, he only has two years of students. So we

01:18:38.270 --> 01:18:40.109
were in school for a little bit. And then, you

01:18:40.109 --> 01:18:41.750
know, we had in that semester early, then we

01:18:41.750 --> 01:18:43.210
have the new people. So we're only dealing with

01:18:43.210 --> 01:18:45.010
the seventh graders who are now eighth graders.

01:18:45.470 --> 01:18:47.529
And that new semester, if you follow kind of

01:18:47.529 --> 01:18:49.590
how COVID went. So those are the people who have

01:18:49.590 --> 01:18:51.789
to teach the next generation, right? Well, those

01:18:51.789 --> 01:18:55.550
seventh graders are no school, no nothing till

01:18:55.550 --> 01:18:58.149
the very end. And then bringing them back, he

01:18:58.149 --> 01:19:02.600
decides to make it optional. well, if you make

01:19:02.600 --> 01:19:04.300
that optional, what's the next year going to

01:19:04.300 --> 01:19:06.619
be like? You don't have anyone to work with.

01:19:06.680 --> 01:19:08.220
He says, I'm going to be started from scratch

01:19:08.220 --> 01:19:11.020
in a year. And by the time we really go all the

01:19:11.020 --> 01:19:13.100
way back in California, and I'll be starting

01:19:13.100 --> 01:19:15.239
from scratch with nothing, but I don't have any

01:19:15.239 --> 01:19:17.619
parental support anymore. I don't have the superintendent

01:19:17.619 --> 01:19:21.359
support anymore. Like he had no support. Well,

01:19:21.479 --> 01:19:24.100
juxtapose that to La Sierra when Stan LaPrada

01:19:24.100 --> 01:19:26.640
had come from the training, just like this guy,

01:19:26.659 --> 01:19:29.430
he had it, but he also had... the superintendent

01:19:29.430 --> 01:19:31.829
and the principal, all the military guys, and

01:19:31.829 --> 01:19:34.210
all the parents were feeding them because they

01:19:34.210 --> 01:19:37.449
all worked for military stuff. So they all kind

01:19:37.449 --> 01:19:38.970
of, at least they weren't, they didn't have an

01:19:38.970 --> 01:19:42.350
aversion to someone doing jumping jacks. Where

01:19:42.350 --> 01:19:45.430
what was happening in the late 60s, why this

01:19:45.430 --> 01:19:47.390
went away when Johnson becomes president after

01:19:47.390 --> 01:19:50.609
Kennedy, is parents were seeing people do jumping

01:19:50.609 --> 01:19:52.109
jacks and they said, wait a second, we see them

01:19:52.109 --> 01:19:53.710
doing jumping jacks, which they don't even call

01:19:53.710 --> 01:19:56.149
jumping jacks, but we're doing jumping jacks

01:19:56.149 --> 01:20:00.050
in boot camp. We see them doing jumping jacks

01:20:00.050 --> 01:20:02.270
in boot camp and you have our kids doing jumping

01:20:02.270 --> 01:20:04.229
jacks here. You're just prepping these kids for

01:20:04.229 --> 01:20:06.970
Vietnam War draft. That's all you're doing. That's

01:20:06.970 --> 01:20:09.609
what this is all about. Which is unfortunately

01:20:09.609 --> 01:20:11.850
not true. Turns out you need to be physically

01:20:11.850 --> 01:20:14.810
fit for reasons other than killing people. And

01:20:14.810 --> 01:20:17.689
by the way, I don't know. I've never actually

01:20:17.689 --> 01:20:20.689
fought. But my understanding is when you go up

01:20:20.689 --> 01:20:22.989
to kill somebody, generally speaking, you don't

01:20:22.989 --> 01:20:24.829
kill them by going up and doing jumping jacks

01:20:24.829 --> 01:20:27.750
against them. Maybe there's two on either side

01:20:27.750 --> 01:20:29.409
and you're like punching them repeatedly in the

01:20:29.409 --> 01:20:31.630
face. I mean, I don't know. Maybe new Marvel

01:20:31.630 --> 01:20:33.689
movie, some weird character, right? Chubby Jack

01:20:33.689 --> 01:20:40.390
Flash. So it's the physical illiteracy that's

01:20:40.390 --> 01:20:46.270
out there that drove the end of this stuff in

01:20:46.270 --> 01:20:48.869
the first place. It ended because parents thought

01:20:48.869 --> 01:20:52.569
this was too military looking. And you're like,

01:20:52.630 --> 01:20:54.750
well, why would it even look any different? Because

01:20:54.750 --> 01:20:56.619
I go to the gym right now. And it goes, Jim,

01:20:56.659 --> 01:20:59.119
I see people doing all that same stuff. All the

01:20:59.119 --> 01:21:01.159
same stuff. Push -ups. They're doing all of it.

01:21:01.199 --> 01:21:02.800
They have this boot camp in there. They're doing

01:21:02.800 --> 01:21:04.979
all of it. And none of them are planning to go.

01:21:05.039 --> 01:21:06.300
I'm looking at them. None of them are planning

01:21:06.300 --> 01:21:09.819
to go in the military. So how come they don't

01:21:09.819 --> 01:21:12.140
have a problem with it? And what happens is when

01:21:12.140 --> 01:21:14.119
you're so far removed from what it takes to be

01:21:14.119 --> 01:21:18.420
a physically fit person, that you're just...

01:21:18.420 --> 01:21:23.539
What's the word for it? It's nice. uh you're

01:21:23.539 --> 01:21:25.579
very naive but it's a generational problem isn't

01:21:25.579 --> 01:21:28.079
the same the same with the obesity epidemic as

01:21:28.079 --> 01:21:30.359
far as what kids are eating it's the same with

01:21:30.359 --> 01:21:32.720
you know what we're seeing with crime and addiction

01:21:32.720 --> 01:21:35.680
is you know let's say clearly there was a lot

01:21:35.680 --> 01:21:38.119
of mental health coming out of world war ii and

01:21:38.119 --> 01:21:39.880
what a lot of people have had on the show right

01:21:39.880 --> 01:21:43.920
their grandfather that era was an alcoholic their

01:21:43.920 --> 01:21:46.979
dad acted this way now that kind of permeated

01:21:46.979 --> 01:21:50.359
into them and so you have a generation that was

01:21:50.359 --> 01:21:53.949
brought up Thinking the exercise is some sort

01:21:53.949 --> 01:21:56.970
of commie whatever, you know, or, you know, some

01:21:56.970 --> 01:22:00.369
military thing or the fact that you were never

01:22:00.369 --> 01:22:03.109
exposed to that. There's that fear. Well, I don't

01:22:03.109 --> 01:22:04.510
want you doing that because I don't want to do

01:22:04.510 --> 01:22:06.250
that. Even in the first responder professions,

01:22:06.590 --> 01:22:09.210
there's a lot of people that have found themselves

01:22:09.210 --> 01:22:11.670
out of shape and they are in the union or their

01:22:11.670 --> 01:22:14.670
administration and they will fight fitness standards

01:22:14.670 --> 01:22:17.489
because they know damn well that if they're held

01:22:17.489 --> 01:22:20.890
to that standard, they. are going to have a mirror

01:22:20.890 --> 01:22:23.170
held up to them. And it's not about taking jobs,

01:22:23.170 --> 01:22:24.409
it's about bringing back to where we need to

01:22:24.409 --> 01:22:26.510
go because no one wants their family dead because

01:22:26.510 --> 01:22:28.569
a firefighter was too fat to get up there. And

01:22:28.569 --> 01:22:31.329
that's the reality. But I see that in my profession

01:22:31.329 --> 01:22:34.949
too. I see that in the communities is this, once

01:22:34.949 --> 01:22:37.729
you get through a generation, now it's a real

01:22:37.729 --> 01:22:40.890
uphill battle because that family doesn't, as

01:22:40.890 --> 01:22:43.770
you said, understand what it's like to move properly

01:22:43.770 --> 01:22:47.710
and what it's like to eat properly. So what happens?

01:22:47.970 --> 01:22:52.729
So you have to look. And Ron Jones will say,

01:22:52.909 --> 01:22:55.630
well, you look at history and there has to be

01:22:55.630 --> 01:22:59.029
a war. And the country has to go through almost

01:22:59.029 --> 01:23:01.630
bondage. You have to go back through the whole

01:23:01.630 --> 01:23:04.630
cycle before it recorrects. Well, I don't accept

01:23:04.630 --> 01:23:08.989
that. Because we have seen some times where we

01:23:08.989 --> 01:23:14.079
have woken up and went at it. I had a gentleman

01:23:14.079 --> 01:23:16.039
on the show probably a couple of years ago now,

01:23:16.100 --> 01:23:18.539
Pasi Salberg, who is originally from Finland.

01:23:18.640 --> 01:23:20.739
He's an educator and he actually lives in Australia

01:23:20.739 --> 01:23:22.659
now, but he tours around the world talking about

01:23:22.659 --> 01:23:26.340
the Finn education system. I think one of the

01:23:26.340 --> 01:23:28.239
really interesting things is when you look at

01:23:28.239 --> 01:23:31.439
the national rankings, Finland's normally the

01:23:31.439 --> 01:23:34.439
top or if not the top. And yet it's definitely

01:23:34.439 --> 01:23:37.340
a less is more kind of mentality when it comes

01:23:37.340 --> 01:23:41.579
to. time you know sat down studying so talk to

01:23:41.579 --> 01:23:43.880
me about you know what you've seen in their system

01:23:43.880 --> 01:23:47.939
and and the impact of exercise and community

01:23:47.939 --> 01:23:50.720
on the success educationally in the children

01:23:50.720 --> 01:23:53.020
so we don't even need to go to finland we can

01:23:53.020 --> 01:23:56.479
still go to ohio and we can look at boys schools

01:23:56.479 --> 01:23:59.329
and i'm not going to actually be able to come

01:23:59.329 --> 01:24:00.649
up with the name of it off the top of my head

01:24:00.649 --> 01:24:03.250
at the moment. But there's two that existed and

01:24:03.250 --> 01:24:09.409
have since the mid -1800s. And one takes a break

01:24:09.409 --> 01:24:12.289
every 35 minutes in the classroom. They send

01:24:12.289 --> 01:24:15.050
them out there for 15 minutes or more. And the

01:24:15.050 --> 01:24:19.210
other one does it at 25 minutes. That's it. Classroom

01:24:19.210 --> 01:24:23.170
is 25 minutes, 15 -minute break. Back in class,

01:24:23.489 --> 01:24:27.670
25 minutes, 15 -minute break. Their scores are

01:24:27.670 --> 01:24:29.409
off the chart. They're the best. The waiting

01:24:29.409 --> 01:24:33.770
list to get in is off, you know. And their days

01:24:33.770 --> 01:24:39.090
are short, too. And so we, for some reason, decided

01:24:39.090 --> 01:24:41.430
that we don't care about quality and results,

01:24:41.789 --> 01:24:44.729
but we care about just a show. Again, this gets

01:24:44.729 --> 01:24:48.810
back to this is just decorations. We're doing

01:24:48.810 --> 01:24:51.170
things to look a certain way rather than what

01:24:51.170 --> 01:24:59.340
actually works. When you look at my son's story

01:24:59.340 --> 01:25:01.800
that I told you about with school in second grade,

01:25:01.880 --> 01:25:06.159
he was having a difficult time. I asked him a

01:25:06.159 --> 01:25:09.140
question about curriculum, and the president

01:25:09.140 --> 01:25:13.699
of the university says to me, let me ask you

01:25:13.699 --> 01:25:16.359
a question, and you'll know exactly what to teach

01:25:16.359 --> 01:25:20.319
your son. Okay. One question? Yeah. One question,

01:25:20.420 --> 01:25:22.479
and you'll know how to do an entire curriculum

01:25:22.479 --> 01:25:26.260
for your son. Okay. Think about high school for

01:25:26.260 --> 01:25:31.880
a minute, all right? What do you remember? Like

01:25:31.880 --> 01:25:34.159
what I did? He goes, what do you still remember

01:25:34.159 --> 01:25:38.140
that you learned in that classroom? He says,

01:25:38.300 --> 01:25:42.720
I guarantee you it was something you were interested

01:25:42.720 --> 01:25:47.220
in. Anything else is gone. He says, design a

01:25:47.220 --> 01:25:49.659
program that does one thing, start where they're

01:25:49.659 --> 01:25:53.000
interested and go from there. I'm like, whoa.

01:25:54.369 --> 01:25:58.890
You can't be interested in anything after sitting

01:25:58.890 --> 01:26:01.670
for a certain time period. It gets too long.

01:26:01.890 --> 01:26:05.909
Your brain just needs to do that physical break.

01:26:06.689 --> 01:26:10.630
And so the workday, the way we have it scheduled,

01:26:10.729 --> 01:26:13.949
is too long. The sitting in classrooms is too

01:26:13.949 --> 01:26:16.949
long. So Finland gets better test results because

01:26:16.949 --> 01:26:19.949
they don't have their kids sit so long. It's

01:26:19.949 --> 01:26:23.350
that simple. Their brain is capable to learn.

01:26:23.990 --> 01:26:26.869
The more physical, you know, you just have to

01:26:26.869 --> 01:26:29.710
have this break. So now, like, I try to explore,

01:26:29.810 --> 01:26:32.569
well, how short can it go? I mean, I get excited.

01:26:33.050 --> 01:26:35.210
So that means if I don't like what I'm doing,

01:26:35.289 --> 01:26:37.909
I don't have to sit longer than 20 minutes. Like,

01:26:37.949 --> 01:26:41.289
I'm not going to improve that anyway. It suddenly

01:26:41.289 --> 01:26:45.569
makes things more. more doable for me. I can

01:26:45.569 --> 01:26:49.449
be an adult and sit down and do that thing I

01:26:49.449 --> 01:26:51.729
didn't want to do. And I'm going to be off a

01:26:51.729 --> 01:26:53.670
break for 15 minutes right when I'm done. And

01:26:53.670 --> 01:26:55.729
I'm going to be better off than if I sat there

01:26:55.729 --> 01:26:57.829
and suffered for a full hour or two hours or

01:26:57.829 --> 01:27:00.689
three hours through this thing. So anyway, that's

01:27:00.689 --> 01:27:02.430
helpful. I don't know. Sometimes I think, well,

01:27:02.449 --> 01:27:04.670
man, hey, church, let's keep the talk shorter.

01:27:05.710 --> 01:27:07.829
So I think of all these different things, which

01:27:07.829 --> 01:27:09.050
is just to be a little bit shorter and brief

01:27:09.050 --> 01:27:12.310
and to the point. But the reality is our attention

01:27:12.310 --> 01:27:16.810
span is short. And we are not benefiting from

01:27:16.810 --> 01:27:19.369
these super long, drawn out classroom experiences.

01:27:19.949 --> 01:27:23.210
So tests go up when you exercise. You get the

01:27:23.210 --> 01:27:26.789
highest test scores the closer you've been to

01:27:26.789 --> 01:27:31.640
physical exercise. go down and down and down.

01:27:32.140 --> 01:27:35.319
So if you have a kid who's going to take a test,

01:27:35.420 --> 01:27:37.539
it's a super important test, you might want them

01:27:37.539 --> 01:27:40.060
to actually exercise just before the test. Go

01:27:40.060 --> 01:27:41.840
swim, do whatever they can. They can have dripping

01:27:41.840 --> 01:27:43.260
wet hair and go into the test and they'll do

01:27:43.260 --> 01:27:46.399
better than if they crammed all night long, studied,

01:27:46.539 --> 01:27:48.500
studied, studied, studied, no exercise, and then

01:27:48.500 --> 01:27:50.340
go and take that test. They'll do better the

01:27:50.340 --> 01:27:54.220
other way with exercise. And so will we in everything

01:27:54.220 --> 01:27:57.159
we do. And so usually before interviews, before

01:27:57.159 --> 01:28:02.130
I do anything, I am... I always exercise before

01:28:02.130 --> 01:28:04.949
I go out and film and do interviews with people.

01:28:05.029 --> 01:28:07.670
I have to. Because my brain needs to be firing

01:28:07.670 --> 01:28:12.270
all cylinders and working. It won't work. If

01:28:12.270 --> 01:28:14.930
I just kind of wake up and go, I don't know,

01:28:14.930 --> 01:28:17.810
I mean, just read. I have to get the physical

01:28:17.810 --> 01:28:21.510
side to it. Am I right in remembering that the

01:28:21.510 --> 01:28:24.590
term you used in The Power of Zero, I think it

01:28:24.590 --> 01:28:27.560
was? Was presenteeism? Oh, that's motivation

01:28:27.560 --> 01:28:30.479
factor. Presenteeism. Okay. Yeah. Presenteeism

01:28:30.479 --> 01:28:34.439
is a condition where you're present, but that's

01:28:34.439 --> 01:28:39.079
it. Brain's not there. And that's what's affecting

01:28:39.079 --> 01:28:44.819
our productivity in the workforce today. Presenteeism

01:28:44.819 --> 01:28:49.060
is a condition where you are just not feeling

01:28:49.060 --> 01:28:53.479
like doing it today. And that's happened to a

01:28:53.479 --> 01:28:58.159
lot of people. And the best antidote to that,

01:28:58.180 --> 01:29:01.119
the best way to cure yourself of presenteeism

01:29:01.119 --> 01:29:04.600
is to be in shape, to get in shape, and to exercise

01:29:04.600 --> 01:29:09.140
and take more breaks. And so in a lot of ways,

01:29:09.199 --> 01:29:10.859
we've been talking about that the whole time

01:29:10.859 --> 01:29:16.319
in everything I've been saying. But that's presenteeism,

01:29:16.359 --> 01:29:21.000
and it is a disease that's affecting our entire

01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:26.689
work culture. And now, you know, with COVID,

01:29:26.890 --> 01:29:30.310
post -COVID, now everyone's just at home. And

01:29:30.310 --> 01:29:32.630
if they're not even walking around to get a drink,

01:29:32.689 --> 01:29:34.850
they're not walking way down the corner and around

01:29:34.850 --> 01:29:36.529
the bend and down the flight of stairs to get

01:29:36.529 --> 01:29:39.149
that water cooler experience and walk back. They're

01:29:39.149 --> 01:29:41.130
not even getting that anymore. Now they're just

01:29:41.130 --> 01:29:42.989
sitting there and they have the water bottle

01:29:42.989 --> 01:29:44.489
sitting next to the computer and they just sip

01:29:44.489 --> 01:29:46.550
on that all day. you know and then there's the

01:29:46.550 --> 01:29:48.750
bathroom like five feet away from them they go

01:29:48.750 --> 01:29:50.810
to the bathroom and there's no movement or motion

01:29:50.810 --> 01:29:53.630
and and good luck if you if you had a tough time

01:29:53.630 --> 01:29:55.369
with the product and you're calling them and

01:29:55.369 --> 01:29:56.630
that's the person you're calling for customer

01:29:56.630 --> 01:29:58.850
service good luck getting much compassion out

01:29:58.850 --> 01:30:01.329
of them there's just not much they're hardly

01:30:01.329 --> 01:30:03.890
a human being anymore especially by the end of

01:30:03.890 --> 01:30:09.010
the day so we do need to so if i if i were to

01:30:09.010 --> 01:30:16.180
in fact i tried i had a And they were interested,

01:30:16.340 --> 01:30:17.960
but they didn't actually do it. And I said, look,

01:30:17.979 --> 01:30:22.760
you could do a study and look at how much movement

01:30:22.760 --> 01:30:29.720
you should do as a corporation, employees, and

01:30:29.720 --> 01:30:32.199
impact productivity. Like, what does that do

01:30:32.199 --> 01:30:34.479
to your actual bottom line? Can you measure that?

01:30:34.920 --> 01:30:37.199
And it's a super interesting thing to do, but

01:30:37.199 --> 01:30:39.340
you've got to talk everybody into it. And in

01:30:39.340 --> 01:30:40.880
the end, that's what you kind of learn about.

01:30:43.560 --> 01:30:47.119
The things professors study are the things that

01:30:47.119 --> 01:30:50.439
they're paid to study. All right, so this is

01:30:50.439 --> 01:30:53.659
a money reality thing at the moment. It's not

01:30:53.659 --> 01:30:56.819
like most professors can just decide, I'm going

01:30:56.819 --> 01:30:59.060
to exert this much time and attention and I'm

01:30:59.060 --> 01:31:01.720
going to look at this question. What they really

01:31:01.720 --> 01:31:06.039
want is a grant out there paid for by a corporation

01:31:06.039 --> 01:31:09.479
that wants someone to look at this question.

01:31:09.880 --> 01:31:11.760
And they want to win that grant. And then they

01:31:11.760 --> 01:31:14.500
got that money to look at this question. And

01:31:14.500 --> 01:31:17.340
that's most of what's being looked at in America

01:31:17.340 --> 01:31:19.380
today. So the things that we're talking about,

01:31:19.500 --> 01:31:22.640
nobody cares. There's no one paying for this.

01:31:23.260 --> 01:31:25.039
No one's paying for it. But I always thought,

01:31:25.100 --> 01:31:27.359
man, Kessin or some major consulting firm, they

01:31:27.359 --> 01:31:29.539
ought to actually have a division. And they actually

01:31:29.539 --> 01:31:33.300
redesign that workforce so that natural movement's

01:31:33.300 --> 01:31:35.979
there. And you would see dramatic increase in

01:31:35.979 --> 01:31:42.409
productivity. That is the case, but it'll be

01:31:42.409 --> 01:31:44.489
a long time before we're there, I think. That's

01:31:44.489 --> 01:31:46.949
like an Elon Musk kind of a thing. A company

01:31:46.949 --> 01:31:51.510
where people think and try something new. But

01:31:51.510 --> 01:31:55.210
for us individually in our life, we should think

01:31:55.210 --> 01:31:57.850
about that. Where are you productive? And if

01:31:57.850 --> 01:32:00.229
you're not that productive, can you just make

01:32:00.229 --> 01:32:03.930
a slight modification in your schedule? Some

01:32:03.930 --> 01:32:05.489
of us have like an hour, hour and a half time

01:32:05.489 --> 01:32:07.250
to sit down and just read something, but we would

01:32:07.250 --> 01:32:09.699
never think, I should disrupt this. midway through

01:32:09.699 --> 01:32:12.300
and go out and do like indian club break or go

01:32:12.300 --> 01:32:15.140
do you know se routine or some chubby jacks or

01:32:15.140 --> 01:32:17.319
whatever you know you don't think like that but

01:32:17.319 --> 01:32:19.739
you should you know during the movie you're watching

01:32:19.739 --> 01:32:22.760
a movie okay pause what are you stopping it for

01:32:22.760 --> 01:32:24.239
we're out there mark he's got a whole hour left

01:32:24.239 --> 01:32:26.760
yeah well we sat way too long we got we probably

01:32:26.760 --> 01:32:31.079
should stop three times during this movie not

01:32:31.079 --> 01:32:32.659
not that that we care about productivity when

01:32:32.659 --> 01:32:34.680
we're just sitting around watching nonsense but

01:32:34.680 --> 01:32:38.000
anyway Well, you talked as well about the integration

01:32:38.000 --> 01:32:41.239
with JFK, you know, with the integration of schools.

01:32:41.899 --> 01:32:44.960
One thing I've observed in the multiple departments

01:32:44.960 --> 01:32:48.140
I work for was when the bar was held very high

01:32:48.140 --> 01:32:51.619
and when we suffered immensely together, there

01:32:51.619 --> 01:32:54.000
was absolutely that bonding, that community.

01:32:54.300 --> 01:32:57.279
So when I watch The Motivation Factor and see

01:32:57.279 --> 01:33:00.699
the students of La Siena, you know, all in those

01:33:00.699 --> 01:33:03.000
teams working together, trying to level up to

01:33:03.000 --> 01:33:06.539
each, you know, color level. i can see how that

01:33:06.539 --> 01:33:09.420
would positively affect mental health how it

01:33:09.420 --> 01:33:12.939
would kind of remove ridiculousness like you

01:33:12.939 --> 01:33:15.319
know sexual or racial prejudice or anything because

01:33:15.319 --> 01:33:18.039
well you know we're team alpha or whatever it

01:33:18.039 --> 01:33:20.399
is and you see that on the football field people

01:33:20.399 --> 01:33:23.420
you know narrate how racist the nfl is whatever

01:33:23.420 --> 01:33:25.680
it's like well dude you're all playing as a team

01:33:25.680 --> 01:33:27.720
you're all seem to be doing well you're all getting

01:33:27.720 --> 01:33:30.420
very well paid you know i think you know there's

01:33:30.420 --> 01:33:33.710
a bigger picture than this so the suffering You

01:33:33.710 --> 01:33:35.409
know, suffering together element, I think, is

01:33:35.409 --> 01:33:38.909
huge. What was the outcome of these PE programs

01:33:38.909 --> 01:33:42.890
in fostering the community? So, last year, when

01:33:42.890 --> 01:33:44.810
I first started looking at that, I interviewed

01:33:44.810 --> 01:33:47.869
200 people on the phone before I even started

01:33:47.869 --> 01:33:49.550
doing filming or anything else. And part of that

01:33:49.550 --> 01:33:53.060
was they started calling me. They found out I

01:33:53.060 --> 01:33:54.859
was doing this and they kept sharing the number

01:33:54.859 --> 01:33:57.100
around. I'm like, I'm doing something else. I

01:33:57.100 --> 01:33:59.279
don't have funding for this movie yet, but there

01:33:59.279 --> 01:34:01.319
it is. Here comes another interview. And they

01:34:01.319 --> 01:34:04.880
walked down memory lane. And one reoccurring

01:34:04.880 --> 01:34:08.920
theme I got that really just, it was like fireworks

01:34:08.920 --> 01:34:13.539
going off. You know, somebody, one of their fellow

01:34:13.539 --> 01:34:18.699
students gets cancer. And this person from their

01:34:18.699 --> 01:34:22.699
school class. comes over now we're talking about

01:34:22.699 --> 01:34:26.300
40 years later right they'll come over and mow

01:34:26.300 --> 01:34:28.220
the lawn this person's coming in and then they

01:34:28.220 --> 01:34:30.159
just all network together and they all take care

01:34:30.159 --> 01:34:32.729
of this person Now, we see that in like maybe

01:34:32.729 --> 01:34:35.029
a church community. We'll see something like

01:34:35.029 --> 01:34:36.970
that. Or family, you know, they'll take care

01:34:36.970 --> 01:34:40.430
of that. And maybe a really tight current sport

01:34:40.430 --> 01:34:43.569
team. You know, guys, they're part of a team,

01:34:43.649 --> 01:34:46.689
you know, pick up whatever it is. And they'll

01:34:46.689 --> 01:34:48.149
take care of their fellow teammates or something

01:34:48.149 --> 01:34:50.710
like that. You don't see something that stopped

01:34:50.710 --> 01:34:55.930
40 freaking years ago. And, hey, one of our fellow

01:34:55.930 --> 01:34:59.850
La Sierra alum just got cancer way over here.

01:35:00.170 --> 01:35:02.729
They're 10 minutes from you. Anyone want to go

01:35:02.729 --> 01:35:05.189
over and mow the lawn? Oh, yeah, I got this,

01:35:05.229 --> 01:35:07.050
you know, and I'm taking care of this. I'm bringing

01:35:07.050 --> 01:35:09.390
this. And, hey, you know, and that's what was

01:35:09.390 --> 01:35:12.850
happening. So this idea of community, right,

01:35:12.890 --> 01:35:17.350
community, what is community? It's unity, right?

01:35:17.949 --> 01:35:22.539
It's unity. And for the common good, it's unity

01:35:22.539 --> 01:35:28.479
for the common good. And when you think about

01:35:28.479 --> 01:35:31.239
what's the purpose of government? I mean, why

01:35:31.239 --> 01:35:34.640
do we have our government? Why do we do this?

01:35:35.140 --> 01:35:37.920
I mean, what is it that we really want? Well,

01:35:38.039 --> 01:35:40.600
we want security. We want to be able to protect

01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:42.899
it. We want to be able to live our life. We want

01:35:42.899 --> 01:35:45.119
it to be better than if we were just all for

01:35:45.119 --> 01:35:50.479
ourselves. And so community, this idea of unity,

01:35:50.720 --> 01:35:58.100
is something that you experience as well as have

01:35:58.100 --> 01:36:00.680
a desire for because of your physical health,

01:36:00.920 --> 01:36:04.279
mental and social health. Like those are all

01:36:04.279 --> 01:36:07.000
conditions that have to be there for it. So we

01:36:07.000 --> 01:36:09.479
desire to be participating in a community because

01:36:09.479 --> 01:36:13.020
we've participated in a community. I became interested

01:36:13.020 --> 01:36:17.560
as an individual in this idea of not eating food

01:36:17.560 --> 01:36:22.579
once a month and saving at least, even when I'm

01:36:22.579 --> 01:36:25.220
super poor, the money I would be spending on

01:36:25.220 --> 01:36:26.819
that food and giving it to someone else who's

01:36:26.819 --> 01:36:29.380
poor, who doesn't have food, that I know 100

01:36:29.380 --> 01:36:30.979
% of that money is going to be used to help them.

01:36:31.579 --> 01:36:34.439
Because when I was eight years old and I was

01:36:34.439 --> 01:36:38.279
out in the garden trying to grow crops, not knowing

01:36:38.279 --> 01:36:40.840
and not being able to express as an eight -year

01:36:40.840 --> 01:36:42.579
-old my concerns, my parents would have sold.

01:36:43.140 --> 01:36:45.100
alleviated my concerns like it would have been

01:36:45.100 --> 01:36:47.199
fine there was we weren't going to go hungry

01:36:47.199 --> 01:36:49.159
but as an eight -year -old you don't know that

01:36:49.159 --> 01:36:50.460
you don't know how to talk to adults sometimes

01:36:50.460 --> 01:36:54.739
right but but i saw it i experienced this unity

01:36:54.739 --> 01:36:59.180
this community of what happens and so as as a

01:36:59.180 --> 01:37:03.420
society we need to experience it and we experience

01:37:03.420 --> 01:37:07.180
it in a uniform basis together on the field and

01:37:07.180 --> 01:37:10.000
we can through pe And that's what was interesting

01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:11.680
is the other thing is when I interviewed each

01:37:11.680 --> 01:37:13.699
of these students, these alumni at La Sierra,

01:37:13.979 --> 01:37:19.319
all of them had a story where life got thrown

01:37:19.319 --> 01:37:23.239
at them. Yeah, a diagnosis for cancer or a surgery

01:37:23.239 --> 01:37:25.760
that went bad or whatever, you know, some form

01:37:25.760 --> 01:37:27.880
of life, a job loss and all the things that happened,

01:37:27.939 --> 01:37:31.840
death, loved one, all the things that happened

01:37:31.840 --> 01:37:35.439
to us. And we all look back to where we learned

01:37:35.439 --> 01:37:39.289
to have some grit. And most of us learned it,

01:37:39.369 --> 01:37:41.289
you know, some of us learned it over here. We

01:37:41.289 --> 01:37:43.310
typically never learned it in algebra, but we

01:37:43.310 --> 01:37:48.489
learned it somewhere, right? And all of them

01:37:48.489 --> 01:37:50.229
would point back that they learned it on the

01:37:50.229 --> 01:37:54.989
PE field, in their PE class. All of them. We're

01:37:54.989 --> 01:37:57.550
talking about thousands of students saying the

01:37:57.550 --> 01:38:01.189
exact same thing. And suddenly I was like, wow,

01:38:01.350 --> 01:38:04.689
if you want to teach resiliency, and if you,

01:38:04.729 --> 01:38:06.609
and when we say, what's the purpose of this government?

01:38:06.729 --> 01:38:09.520
Well, The purpose of the government isn't to

01:38:09.520 --> 01:38:11.899
go bankrupt. The purpose of the government is

01:38:11.899 --> 01:38:14.779
to everyone be miserable because the vast majority

01:38:14.779 --> 01:38:16.640
of our society can't even take care of themselves.

01:38:17.119 --> 01:38:19.300
That they have one problem come up and they can't

01:38:19.300 --> 01:38:22.119
handle it. And everybody's drug dependent. They

01:38:22.119 --> 01:38:23.520
just want to be drugged up. They don't want to

01:38:23.520 --> 01:38:25.079
deal with reality. They want to kill themselves

01:38:25.079 --> 01:38:27.199
because it's too hard to deal with. And I mean,

01:38:27.220 --> 01:38:30.539
we go through the whole of an unhealthy society.

01:38:31.420 --> 01:38:33.960
We want to be part of a healthy society. And

01:38:33.960 --> 01:38:38.630
we're those. You know, safety nets are minimal

01:38:38.630 --> 01:38:41.109
because people are resilient. They can handle

01:38:41.109 --> 01:38:45.010
it. Well, they taught that in PE. They taught

01:38:45.010 --> 01:38:48.050
it. It was a uniform method of dealing with the

01:38:48.050 --> 01:38:51.250
hard parts of life. And I thought, wow, that's

01:38:51.250 --> 01:38:53.989
a solution. Now, that's a solution we are actually

01:38:53.989 --> 01:38:57.029
looking for right now that costs almost nothing.

01:38:57.390 --> 01:38:59.590
It costs almost nothing to do with this. This

01:38:59.590 --> 01:39:05.060
is a program that didn't even have balls. I think

01:39:05.060 --> 01:39:08.479
you needed like a whistle, you know, you know,

01:39:08.479 --> 01:39:10.020
and the kids had to buy some different colored

01:39:10.020 --> 01:39:11.800
shorts or something. But those could have been

01:39:11.800 --> 01:39:13.279
done with like, you know, you could have just

01:39:13.279 --> 01:39:15.640
dyed a belt each time or whatever. There's a

01:39:15.640 --> 01:39:17.140
lot of ways around this thing that you could

01:39:17.140 --> 01:39:21.680
have made it pretty easy. So so it's an interesting

01:39:21.680 --> 01:39:23.600
thing when you think about this, like what would

01:39:23.600 --> 01:39:27.140
it do for our society? Where could we go as a

01:39:27.140 --> 01:39:31.550
society? if the vast majority of us were operating

01:39:31.550 --> 01:39:37.310
at our potential health -wise. And as a consequence

01:39:37.310 --> 01:39:41.390
of that, we wouldn't be plagued with the financial

01:39:41.390 --> 01:39:44.869
debts that we have as a nation, where 80 % of

01:39:44.869 --> 01:39:47.609
our debt and 80 % of our healthcare costs is

01:39:47.609 --> 01:39:49.710
on preventable stuff, if we had none of that.

01:39:50.109 --> 01:39:52.170
I mean, you're talking about none of that. You're

01:39:52.170 --> 01:39:55.149
looking at just take whatever people who died

01:39:55.149 --> 01:39:57.930
from opioid addictions, get rid of 80 % of that.

01:39:58.050 --> 01:40:00.489
So now we're in a manageable number, right? You

01:40:00.489 --> 01:40:02.689
can look at the homelessness situation and you

01:40:02.689 --> 01:40:04.789
can factor in there's a big element there as

01:40:04.789 --> 01:40:08.430
well that started with this drug. So in all these

01:40:08.430 --> 01:40:11.840
things, one could argue that... You know, we

01:40:11.840 --> 01:40:14.079
could probably see maybe as much as 80. This

01:40:14.079 --> 01:40:16.760
is going to sound crazy. But when I went through

01:40:16.760 --> 01:40:18.460
the film, I mean, it really did open my eyes.

01:40:18.460 --> 01:40:20.439
I was like, we could see 80 % of our problems

01:40:20.439 --> 01:40:23.260
go away because they're all intertwined here.

01:40:23.439 --> 01:40:26.460
I mean, we're talking about domestic abuse. We're

01:40:26.460 --> 01:40:28.699
talking about bullying. We're talking about,

01:40:28.699 --> 01:40:30.979
you know, the suicides. We're talking about the

01:40:30.979 --> 01:40:32.979
drug dependencies. We're talking about the people

01:40:32.979 --> 01:40:34.520
who just don't believe themselves and they give

01:40:34.520 --> 01:40:39.520
up. So they go to a life of crime. How important

01:40:39.520 --> 01:40:42.319
is it that you believe in yourself? How important

01:40:42.319 --> 01:40:45.699
is that in reality? Like, that's a faith thing.

01:40:45.760 --> 01:40:48.300
If you don't believe you can succeed, you won't

01:40:48.300 --> 01:40:50.720
put forward the effort. And you'll just sit down

01:40:50.720 --> 01:40:53.720
and watch TV all day and do nothing. And then

01:40:53.720 --> 01:40:56.159
you're going to be a problem, a statistic, a

01:40:56.159 --> 01:40:58.680
problem, a burden, whatever, in our society.

01:40:58.720 --> 01:41:02.420
Somehow we have to pay for you. And that's a

01:41:02.420 --> 01:41:04.939
lot of people that are falling in that gap right

01:41:04.939 --> 01:41:07.399
now, the way we're doing it. And then when the

01:41:07.399 --> 01:41:08.960
government with COVID, they were handing out

01:41:08.960 --> 01:41:10.560
paychecks, you know, to everybody. Like, you

01:41:10.560 --> 01:41:13.859
know, even I got one for my business. One of

01:41:13.859 --> 01:41:15.899
those PPP loans where everybody was because we

01:41:15.899 --> 01:41:18.420
couldn't work. My income stopped. Other than

01:41:18.420 --> 01:41:21.739
the film stuff, my income for a whole year. And

01:41:21.739 --> 01:41:25.039
you're sitting there going, I don't want paychecks.

01:41:25.060 --> 01:41:27.100
I want to be able to just do my thing. I hated

01:41:27.100 --> 01:41:29.939
that. And then you start getting these great

01:41:29.939 --> 01:41:32.520
checks. Like, oh, there's a big check. And you're

01:41:32.520 --> 01:41:34.100
sitting there, whoa. I wonder if they're going

01:41:34.100 --> 01:41:36.779
to do that again. Slap yourself around. Well,

01:41:36.800 --> 01:41:39.279
what am I thinking? No, no, no. No, I've become

01:41:39.279 --> 01:41:42.319
dependent on our government again. There's this

01:41:42.319 --> 01:41:44.720
story, and I always like to tell this story,

01:41:44.779 --> 01:41:46.840
and you can delete this later. No, everything's

01:41:46.840 --> 01:41:49.460
fine. Okay, so Ken Burns does a documentary.

01:41:49.680 --> 01:41:52.060
Ken Burns is like all of us documentary filmmakers

01:41:52.060 --> 01:41:55.600
always. None of us think that we're better than

01:41:55.600 --> 01:41:58.399
Ken Burns because we're not. Ken Burns makes

01:41:58.399 --> 01:42:00.680
amazing documentaries. He made a documentary

01:42:00.680 --> 01:42:02.920
called National Parks. He makes these great historic

01:42:02.920 --> 01:42:05.439
documentaries. He made one on the national parks.

01:42:05.880 --> 01:42:09.380
And in their series, usually, in one of them,

01:42:09.380 --> 01:42:11.340
he looked at Yosemite and looked at the bears

01:42:11.340 --> 01:42:14.500
problem that exists. Everybody knows that these

01:42:14.500 --> 01:42:16.460
national parks, especially like Yellowstone and

01:42:16.460 --> 01:42:18.720
Yosemite, have a problem with their bears. It's

01:42:18.720 --> 01:42:21.180
a problem that still exists to this day. And

01:42:21.180 --> 01:42:23.560
it's so bad that if you go in and you have an

01:42:23.560 --> 01:42:25.890
ice chest, you leave it out. and you leave it

01:42:25.890 --> 01:42:28.550
unattended, they'll fine you a grand. A thousand

01:42:28.550 --> 01:42:31.930
bucks or more, sometimes $2 ,000 for leaving

01:42:31.930 --> 01:42:35.350
your ice chest out. You know, wow, it's kind

01:42:35.350 --> 01:42:37.750
of a lot. I mean, and it's funny because you

01:42:37.750 --> 01:42:40.069
go to my neighborhood. We've had a black bear

01:42:40.069 --> 01:42:42.310
in my backyard one time. Not while we lived here,

01:42:42.390 --> 01:42:44.770
but the previous owner. There's black bears all

01:42:44.770 --> 01:42:46.949
over Florida, but you don't have them going through

01:42:46.949 --> 01:42:48.630
people's garbages and all this problem. But you

01:42:48.630 --> 01:42:51.199
go to the national parks. Man, they're all over

01:42:51.199 --> 01:42:53.260
the place having problems. Well, why are the

01:42:53.260 --> 01:42:55.060
bears in the national parks such a problem, but

01:42:55.060 --> 01:42:57.380
they're not here where the people live? And yet

01:42:57.380 --> 01:43:01.159
they're here. Why? It's the same freaking animal.

01:43:01.659 --> 01:43:03.199
So everyone should think about this for a minute.

01:43:03.340 --> 01:43:06.520
Why is there a problem? Well, Ken Burns documents

01:43:06.520 --> 01:43:11.279
the problem. What happened? So in the 60s, somebody,

01:43:11.500 --> 01:43:15.149
it wasn't a good idea, got an idea. to put bleachers

01:43:15.149 --> 01:43:17.310
around the dumpsters, put all the dumpsters together

01:43:17.310 --> 01:43:20.329
around dinner time at night, a little after dinner,

01:43:20.590 --> 01:43:22.310
right when the bears are going to want to go

01:43:22.310 --> 01:43:24.850
out and eat, and open the dumpsters up and let

01:43:24.850 --> 01:43:27.989
the bears come in and start eating and fighting

01:43:27.989 --> 01:43:30.510
over the food in the dumpsters. And they had

01:43:30.510 --> 01:43:32.770
bleachers around for the campers that night to

01:43:32.770 --> 01:43:34.449
come sit and watch and laugh, and they would

01:43:34.449 --> 01:43:37.590
eat popcorn, and they thought it was great. Until

01:43:37.590 --> 01:43:39.470
somebody coming through, one of the rangers,

01:43:39.729 --> 01:43:41.829
probably one of those guys without the personality,

01:43:42.109 --> 01:43:45.100
decided, I don't think this is a very good idea.

01:43:46.020 --> 01:43:48.739
Should we be doing this? This doesn't seem like

01:43:48.739 --> 01:43:51.600
a good idea. So they decided to stop doing it.

01:43:51.819 --> 01:43:55.060
Well, the next night, those bears come down to

01:43:55.060 --> 01:43:57.939
eat. Well, the humans are now their source of

01:43:57.939 --> 01:44:00.979
food. They hadn't been a source of food forever.

01:44:01.199 --> 01:44:03.340
They hadn't been a source of food. I mean, you

01:44:03.340 --> 01:44:05.180
go back as far as you go, they've never been

01:44:05.180 --> 01:44:09.220
the source of food. But hey, for the last four

01:44:09.220 --> 01:44:11.760
or five years, every night, they're the source

01:44:11.760 --> 01:44:14.199
of food. And so the mom's coming in with the

01:44:14.199 --> 01:44:17.699
cubs. They're all, hey, where's the food? So

01:44:17.699 --> 01:44:20.119
they just meandered into the campgrounds. Oh,

01:44:20.159 --> 01:44:21.880
here's the food. They put the food over here.

01:44:22.500 --> 01:44:24.819
And they grabbed the food. And they're trying

01:44:24.819 --> 01:44:26.739
to chase them out. Okay, you got to fight for

01:44:26.739 --> 01:44:28.420
the food a little bit here and there. And then

01:44:28.420 --> 01:44:31.699
they had to haze them a little bit. They tried

01:44:31.699 --> 01:44:33.239
different things. They took a long time for them

01:44:33.239 --> 01:44:35.779
to start doing that. But the problem is the cubs

01:44:35.779 --> 01:44:37.979
were learning from the mom bearer that the humans

01:44:37.979 --> 01:44:40.699
are the source of food. Well, that's still today.

01:44:41.149 --> 01:44:43.670
I went backpacking, and there was a cinnamon

01:44:43.670 --> 01:44:45.369
bear that was bigger than our Toyota Corolla.

01:44:45.470 --> 01:44:47.789
I remember at that time when I was backpacking,

01:44:47.789 --> 01:44:49.510
I was like, that's the biggest bear I've ever

01:44:49.510 --> 01:44:51.930
seen. And it was coming in camp, and it was looking

01:44:51.930 --> 01:44:54.850
for food. And we were backpacking. We were in

01:44:54.850 --> 01:44:59.130
the backpacker's camp below Half Dome. Those

01:44:59.130 --> 01:45:01.449
who climbed that know exactly what I'm talking

01:45:01.449 --> 01:45:06.090
about. And it's a cinnamon bear. It has a name,

01:45:06.149 --> 01:45:09.350
and it comes by every night. It's a big bear.

01:45:09.489 --> 01:45:12.770
It gets a lot of food. So what happens is, and

01:45:12.770 --> 01:45:15.090
then they were having cubs that would swat people

01:45:15.090 --> 01:45:17.189
going by them with backpacks. They would just

01:45:17.189 --> 01:45:19.489
swat it open because sometimes out would come

01:45:19.489 --> 01:45:21.369
out candy or food right out of the backpack.

01:45:22.909 --> 01:45:28.949
So it's a problem. In 2020, it was 1960 when

01:45:28.949 --> 01:45:31.909
they created this problem. They only did it for

01:45:31.909 --> 01:45:34.090
a few years and then they stopped. It's still

01:45:34.090 --> 01:45:37.170
a problem today. They can't stop it. Once you

01:45:37.170 --> 01:45:40.810
wire your brain that this is the source for your

01:45:40.810 --> 01:45:44.510
immediate fix on your drug chemical or this is

01:45:44.510 --> 01:45:47.390
the source for those paychecks, you do such a

01:45:47.390 --> 01:45:48.949
disservice, whether you do it for animals or

01:45:48.949 --> 01:45:52.550
humans. We are all that way. And the best thing

01:45:52.550 --> 01:45:55.369
that we could do is instill in people and demonstrate,

01:45:55.449 --> 01:46:01.989
have them achieve levels of physical stuff that's

01:46:01.989 --> 01:46:04.960
hard for them and achieve it. that they didn't

01:46:04.960 --> 01:46:06.479
even think themselves that they could do. But

01:46:06.479 --> 01:46:08.140
you showed them, you gave them goals, they followed

01:46:08.140 --> 01:46:11.560
it, they achieved it. Wow. Now they suddenly

01:46:11.560 --> 01:46:13.380
can believe in themselves. They may not have

01:46:13.380 --> 01:46:15.100
been taught, they may not have come from a family

01:46:15.100 --> 01:46:16.680
that ever would have been taught that, but now

01:46:16.680 --> 01:46:21.079
they believe in it. And it doesn't matter. We

01:46:21.079 --> 01:46:23.140
were looking at Prescott PE. I was interviewing

01:46:23.140 --> 01:46:25.420
kids that are in the movie that were living in

01:46:25.420 --> 01:46:28.300
their car with their mom. That's where they lived.

01:46:28.800 --> 01:46:31.119
And they had no problems with bullying. They'd

01:46:31.119 --> 01:46:33.909
had problems with bullying before. But not at

01:46:33.909 --> 01:46:36.430
Prescott. They totally believed in themselves.

01:46:36.670 --> 01:46:39.170
I've followed these kids since. They all, every

01:46:39.170 --> 01:46:41.050
one of those kids in that film are super successful

01:46:41.050 --> 01:46:44.770
kids. And I'm saying, why would you close that?

01:46:44.890 --> 01:46:47.890
Why would you end that? What kind of moron superintendent

01:46:47.890 --> 01:46:51.149
would do that? Only the kind that is a complete

01:46:51.149 --> 01:46:54.329
ignoramus on the topic. Like, you would never

01:46:54.329 --> 01:46:57.949
do this. But the problem is, where in their education

01:46:57.949 --> 01:47:00.210
would they even learn about this? It's absent.

01:47:01.199 --> 01:47:04.880
So are they educated? The idea, are you an educated

01:47:04.880 --> 01:47:07.600
person, really must be evaluated this moment

01:47:07.600 --> 01:47:11.199
in our society. If you don't know how to properly

01:47:11.199 --> 01:47:16.140
eat and properly walk and properly sit and properly

01:47:16.140 --> 01:47:19.960
run and exercise and move your body, are you

01:47:19.960 --> 01:47:23.079
an educated human being? If you don't know how

01:47:23.079 --> 01:47:25.680
to optimally study, optimally work, and how to

01:47:25.680 --> 01:47:28.800
intertwine exercise with that to hit optimal

01:47:28.800 --> 01:47:31.699
productivity, are you an educated person? You

01:47:31.699 --> 01:47:34.680
might be able to do some interesting things technically,

01:47:34.859 --> 01:47:39.359
but you're not there yet. And so we do need to

01:47:39.359 --> 01:47:42.319
reevaluate this whole thing. And what the ultimate

01:47:42.319 --> 01:47:45.659
impact will be is we will correct our national

01:47:45.659 --> 01:47:48.659
debt. We will bring health care costs back in

01:47:48.659 --> 01:47:51.789
realm. We will bring people so they're interested

01:47:51.789 --> 01:47:53.770
in behaving and talking to one another again

01:47:53.770 --> 01:47:56.369
and be interested in being with each other. We

01:47:56.369 --> 01:47:58.829
will improve qualities of relationships. We'll

01:47:58.829 --> 01:48:01.930
have people who will actually strive, who have

01:48:01.930 --> 01:48:03.729
given up, who will now believe in themselves

01:48:03.729 --> 01:48:07.949
and strive. Like that's the big carrot here for

01:48:07.949 --> 01:48:10.470
us to go for, right? That's the reward. It's

01:48:10.470 --> 01:48:13.689
worth the effort to actually do this. And I don't

01:48:13.689 --> 01:48:16.680
know what the substitute would be. I don't know

01:48:16.680 --> 01:48:18.520
what it is. I'm watching everybody come up with

01:48:18.520 --> 01:48:21.399
these failed, pathetic people who are running

01:48:21.399 --> 01:48:23.680
for president, both parties. Every time they

01:48:23.680 --> 01:48:24.819
come up with their ideas, I'm like, that's not

01:48:24.819 --> 01:48:29.180
going to work. If it's an idea that's been tried

01:48:29.180 --> 01:48:32.500
before, it failed every time. And why are we

01:48:32.500 --> 01:48:35.159
going to do that again? And then it's like, okay,

01:48:35.199 --> 01:48:37.060
that sounds like what we try to do with the...

01:48:37.449 --> 01:48:39.829
the bears in Yosemite. You're going to make another

01:48:39.829 --> 01:48:43.109
group of Americans dependent on you. Great idea.

01:48:43.189 --> 01:48:45.069
That has never worked. Like, how has that worked

01:48:45.069 --> 01:48:46.890
with any group so far that we've made dependent?

01:48:47.130 --> 01:48:49.670
It has not helped them. Instead, you've got to

01:48:49.670 --> 01:48:51.850
actually, how do you go the other route? We need

01:48:51.850 --> 01:48:54.630
to help people realize that they can do it. And,

01:48:54.689 --> 01:48:56.670
you know, you're giving people, you know, nice

01:48:56.670 --> 01:49:01.489
little things to enable them, help them succeed.

01:49:02.569 --> 01:49:06.600
But you don't, you don't just hand it out. well

01:49:06.600 --> 01:49:09.539
well based on that so the power of zero is another

01:49:09.539 --> 01:49:12.420
documentary that you made um a really really

01:49:12.420 --> 01:49:15.939
you know fascinating kind of view into the fact

01:49:15.939 --> 01:49:17.619
that the money's going to run out at some point

01:49:17.619 --> 01:49:19.479
as you said the baby boomer generation yeah that

01:49:19.479 --> 01:49:21.979
was back in 2018 when the national debt in that

01:49:21.979 --> 01:49:23.739
film was approaching 20 trillion and we're now

01:49:23.739 --> 01:49:26.760
just past 30 yeah and you predicted that in i

01:49:26.760 --> 01:49:28.600
didn't predict it that fast though to be honest

01:49:28.600 --> 01:49:30.800
with you nobody did in that movie like it's kind

01:49:30.800 --> 01:49:34.300
of scary it's getting way worse way faster Well,

01:49:34.380 --> 01:49:36.819
and it goes back to, so with you talking about

01:49:36.819 --> 01:49:39.619
the health, I mean, again, our perspective, you

01:49:39.619 --> 01:49:42.460
know, my career, I got to see the ripple effect

01:49:42.460 --> 01:49:44.300
of the ill health, the ripple effect of the mental

01:49:44.300 --> 01:49:45.920
health crisis, whether it was overdose, whether

01:49:45.920 --> 01:49:47.420
it was violence, you know, all these things.

01:49:47.859 --> 01:49:51.279
And what you talked about in the motivation factor

01:49:51.279 --> 01:49:55.680
specifically is. a resolution for so many problems

01:49:55.680 --> 01:49:57.699
community i mean that you said the left and the

01:49:57.699 --> 01:49:59.380
right i've talked about this all the time i can't

01:49:59.380 --> 01:50:01.479
stand either of them these leaders were asked

01:50:01.479 --> 01:50:03.880
to lead and you know we realize okay neither

01:50:03.880 --> 01:50:06.340
of you can we get it now and that's a big surprise

01:50:06.340 --> 01:50:08.979
anyway but um and we need real leaders we need

01:50:08.979 --> 01:50:12.029
a system that creates real leaders but And there's

01:50:12.029 --> 01:50:14.310
no sense of, there's very little sense of community.

01:50:14.569 --> 01:50:17.250
This division was so easy. Like you said, even

01:50:17.250 --> 01:50:19.510
the paychecks, one of my previous guests made

01:50:19.510 --> 01:50:20.810
a good point. There's a lot of people that hate

01:50:20.810 --> 01:50:22.789
their jobs. The moment this came around, they

01:50:22.789 --> 01:50:24.989
were like, I will gladly stay at home. I don't

01:50:24.989 --> 01:50:26.810
want to be at work. I hate my boss. I hate what

01:50:26.810 --> 01:50:32.829
I do. You know, but so what they did at La Sierra,

01:50:33.109 --> 01:50:34.770
isn't it? La Sierra. I think I might have said

01:50:34.770 --> 01:50:39.329
La Sierra before. is the answer to so many things.

01:50:39.470 --> 01:50:41.869
And the national debt, you look at the, I think

01:50:41.869 --> 01:50:44.069
we're what, 4 % of the world's population. I

01:50:44.069 --> 01:50:46.470
think we use something crazy like 80 % of the

01:50:46.470 --> 01:50:49.010
world's opiates. We've got 25 % of the prison

01:50:49.010 --> 01:50:51.310
population. I mean, the statistics go on from

01:50:51.310 --> 01:50:53.010
supposedly the greatest country in the world.

01:50:53.289 --> 01:50:55.229
Oh, and by the way, let's just look at COVID.

01:50:55.529 --> 01:50:59.649
The number of people in the ICU in America is

01:50:59.649 --> 01:51:04.270
77 out of a million. The number of people in

01:51:04.270 --> 01:51:07.829
the ICU in Japan is seven out of a million. And

01:51:07.829 --> 01:51:10.649
the next highest below us is Canada at 20 out

01:51:10.649 --> 01:51:13.149
of a million. So you're like, wait, that's the

01:51:13.149 --> 01:51:16.250
same illness, right? COVID is not different in

01:51:16.250 --> 01:51:19.489
Japan or Canada that is here. But as far as in

01:51:19.489 --> 01:51:22.770
the ICU, and you're like, why so many more of

01:51:22.770 --> 01:51:25.289
us in the ICU as a percentage of the population?

01:51:25.729 --> 01:51:28.569
Oh, different vaccinations. No, no, no. No, it's

01:51:28.569 --> 01:51:31.779
the population health. itself and you can just

01:51:31.779 --> 01:51:34.239
look at the obesity each of those countries where

01:51:34.239 --> 01:51:36.699
does japan and where's canada and where's the

01:51:36.699 --> 01:51:39.399
united states canada's way up at the top obesity

01:51:39.399 --> 01:51:42.600
canada is also pretty high so japan united states

01:51:42.600 --> 01:51:45.739
is the top canada's you know in there pretty

01:51:45.739 --> 01:51:49.020
high so it's up there next and then japan's like

01:51:49.020 --> 01:51:52.479
150th way down there finland they're off the

01:51:52.479 --> 01:51:56.140
chart low so so you could see And then you're

01:51:56.140 --> 01:51:57.520
like, okay, what's the cost? What's the cost

01:51:57.520 --> 01:52:00.020
per drug that you're given in the ICU? And it

01:52:00.020 --> 01:52:04.699
all goes around to the individual. So we are

01:52:04.699 --> 01:52:08.140
the sum of our parts and our parts are unhealthy.

01:52:09.420 --> 01:52:12.899
So I love this kind of question that I posed

01:52:12.899 --> 01:52:15.359
to you. You're king for the day. You get to design.

01:52:16.250 --> 01:52:18.869
the the pe program and you know the school day

01:52:18.869 --> 01:52:21.609
in general but especially the pe program starting

01:52:21.609 --> 01:52:23.609
today we're giving green light we're giving all

01:52:23.609 --> 01:52:25.670
the funding to be proactive instead of reactive

01:52:25.670 --> 01:52:29.449
what the what do the pe programs look like from

01:52:29.449 --> 01:52:33.130
here on in yeah well school's half a day total

01:52:33.130 --> 01:52:38.270
um that's easy um and um and you're probably

01:52:38.270 --> 01:52:40.510
not gonna hit the same classes each time each

01:52:40.510 --> 01:52:44.590
day you know you would go you know a and b um

01:52:45.550 --> 01:52:49.189
And the PE program would have a third of it,

01:52:49.210 --> 01:52:51.229
the thrust of it, would be restorative arts.

01:52:52.069 --> 01:52:56.449
So you would train them how to do Indian clubs

01:52:56.449 --> 01:53:01.090
and wands and the Persian mill. You would train

01:53:01.090 --> 01:53:05.329
them how to get off the ground with the bars.

01:53:05.949 --> 01:53:09.430
You'd train them calisthenics. You would do group

01:53:09.430 --> 01:53:15.300
exercise. And PE would be an hour a day. You

01:53:15.300 --> 01:53:17.880
would give someone a heart pumping hour a day

01:53:17.880 --> 01:53:22.119
experience and you would require showers. There's

01:53:22.119 --> 01:53:25.039
a lot of reasons why. And possibly where you

01:53:25.039 --> 01:53:28.659
could, you know, you would do outside, almost

01:53:28.659 --> 01:53:31.880
exclusively outside for that hour every day.

01:53:32.779 --> 01:53:35.340
So if you're in a super cold place, you'd be

01:53:35.340 --> 01:53:38.260
outside exercising in the cold there. And if

01:53:38.260 --> 01:53:39.859
it's super hot and gross, you'd be out there

01:53:39.859 --> 01:53:42.220
exercising in it. It's good for our bodies to

01:53:42.220 --> 01:53:44.279
acclimate with where we're at. Lots of good reasons

01:53:44.279 --> 01:53:47.880
why. So, we would do that for sure. So, it would

01:53:47.880 --> 01:53:50.539
involve group exercises. I would do the SE routine

01:53:50.539 --> 01:53:53.699
-like experience for sure all the time. That

01:53:53.699 --> 01:53:57.079
would be part of it. I don't care if there's

01:53:57.079 --> 01:54:02.380
one ball or sport involved at all in PE. I would

01:54:02.380 --> 01:54:06.180
also incorporate with it basic nutrition. I would

01:54:06.180 --> 01:54:09.199
train them how to eat what they eat. I would

01:54:09.199 --> 01:54:11.970
train them how to pair foods together. This is

01:54:11.970 --> 01:54:13.489
something no one talks about. I would train what

01:54:13.489 --> 01:54:16.569
alkaline food is and acidic foods are and encourage

01:54:16.569 --> 01:54:20.010
them to get to like 78 to 80 % alkaline and 20

01:54:20.010 --> 01:54:23.970
% acidic. So you're not going to do something

01:54:23.970 --> 01:54:27.590
like meat on a hamburger with a white hamburger

01:54:27.590 --> 01:54:33.090
bun and potatoes in the deep fried oil with a

01:54:33.090 --> 01:54:35.989
shake. Because that's all acidic. Like you're

01:54:35.989 --> 01:54:37.430
doing nothing but acidic. Like you wouldn't do

01:54:37.430 --> 01:54:39.859
that. You would have... you know, a meat and

01:54:39.859 --> 01:54:41.619
these vegetables or whatever. So I would actually

01:54:41.619 --> 01:54:43.720
teach them that, you know, train them that. So

01:54:43.720 --> 01:54:47.979
that would be health for me. And that would also

01:54:47.979 --> 01:54:52.039
involve the postural science, postural correction.

01:54:52.279 --> 01:54:56.220
I would redesign completely all the desks. There

01:54:56.220 --> 01:54:58.500
would not be a flat desk ever again. You would

01:54:58.500 --> 01:55:02.859
have slanted desks, 22%. 22 degrees. That's absolutely

01:55:02.859 --> 01:55:05.439
critical. I would redesign the classroom so the

01:55:05.439 --> 01:55:08.220
lights coming in aren't refracting the wrong

01:55:08.220 --> 01:55:11.279
way off of that. So the students are facing with

01:55:11.279 --> 01:55:14.079
their eyes and their necks the right direction

01:55:14.079 --> 01:55:16.500
so that they're not turning constantly the wrong

01:55:16.500 --> 01:55:19.930
way and screwing themselves up. And that's to

01:55:19.930 --> 01:55:22.329
the floor and that whole thing said I would teach

01:55:22.329 --> 01:55:24.949
them how important it is to be like a drafter,

01:55:25.069 --> 01:55:26.810
you know, that you're sitting there in that setting

01:55:26.810 --> 01:55:29.390
and that they carry that on at home and tell

01:55:29.390 --> 01:55:30.909
them, you know, don't go home, start doing video

01:55:30.909 --> 01:55:33.050
games and be all slouched over this way. Do this.

01:55:33.050 --> 01:55:37.850
You know, I would teach them that. And then for

01:55:37.850 --> 01:55:40.289
the education, I would probably eliminate almost

01:55:40.289 --> 01:55:44.310
every textbook there is. I would. I would write

01:55:44.310 --> 01:55:46.979
all the freaking time. I wouldn't be so much

01:55:46.979 --> 01:55:48.979
concerned about grammar. I'm very good at it.

01:55:49.140 --> 01:55:50.899
You know, I'm an undergraduate. I could write.

01:55:50.960 --> 01:55:53.340
I've edited major publications. I've done all

01:55:53.340 --> 01:55:54.880
that stuff. I mean, it's good as most folks.

01:55:55.579 --> 01:55:58.020
I write my scripts. I know what I'm doing with

01:55:58.020 --> 01:56:01.159
that space. But I do know that I don't think

01:56:01.159 --> 01:56:03.779
too much about prepositions. This dangling modifier.

01:56:04.159 --> 01:56:06.560
Okay, I don't mind learning that. There's times

01:56:06.560 --> 01:56:08.920
to learn this. But kindergarten's not one. And

01:56:08.920 --> 01:56:10.619
in our schools, in our freaking schools right

01:56:10.619 --> 01:56:12.279
now, kindergarten and here, they're teaching

01:56:12.279 --> 01:56:14.180
prepositions and all that stuff to kindergartners.

01:56:14.690 --> 01:56:16.789
This guy's so, they don't know what they're doing.

01:56:16.909 --> 01:56:18.770
They so don't know what they're doing right now.

01:56:19.050 --> 01:56:21.789
So I would do a lot of writing of expression,

01:56:22.010 --> 01:56:24.649
learn how to really write and write a lot, really

01:56:24.649 --> 01:56:27.630
flush through it. Handwriting, I would teach

01:56:27.630 --> 01:56:30.010
handwriting. I would not let them type it. I

01:56:30.010 --> 01:56:32.210
would have them handwrite it because you need

01:56:32.210 --> 01:56:35.670
the neurofeedback and you need the fine motor

01:56:35.670 --> 01:56:37.369
skills of the hand. Like you have to do that.

01:56:37.710 --> 01:56:39.630
Don't, we're losing that and it needs to come

01:56:39.630 --> 01:56:41.920
back. And if anyone's listening right now and

01:56:41.920 --> 01:56:43.779
you haven't done this for a while, get like the

01:56:43.779 --> 01:56:45.899
Remarkable 2 pad or something like that and start

01:56:45.899 --> 01:56:49.859
writing. Start writing a lot. You'll see what

01:56:49.859 --> 01:56:52.979
starts coming back to your life. So I would have

01:56:52.979 --> 01:56:55.979
them read from the best. So the best classics.

01:56:56.239 --> 01:56:58.619
You learn from them. I would get ideas. And I

01:56:58.619 --> 01:57:00.859
would care less if something was written last

01:57:00.859 --> 01:57:04.100
week or 3 ,000 years ago. It doesn't matter.

01:57:04.159 --> 01:57:05.880
We're all humans. It's all human experience.

01:57:05.899 --> 01:57:09.829
And you want to learn from best with that. So

01:57:09.829 --> 01:57:12.590
those are the things that I would do that would

01:57:12.590 --> 01:57:15.930
change it dramatically. And really, those are

01:57:15.930 --> 01:57:18.189
the elements. That's all you have to do. And

01:57:18.189 --> 01:57:21.329
things would change around. But again, the school

01:57:21.329 --> 01:57:24.289
day, the classroom day, it would be 25, 35 minutes

01:57:24.289 --> 01:57:26.350
in the classroom. And then you move. Now, you

01:57:26.350 --> 01:57:28.029
might still have to come back to that subject.

01:57:28.649 --> 01:57:33.390
But you wouldn't sit longer than that. If you

01:57:33.390 --> 01:57:38.210
chose to do a traditional school setting. as

01:57:38.210 --> 01:57:41.069
opposed to more of doing that once or twice a

01:57:41.069 --> 01:57:42.770
week and then you're in a mentor -based situation

01:57:42.770 --> 01:57:45.770
or whatever, which I think is actually still

01:57:45.770 --> 01:57:49.750
superior. I really am a fan of teams and people

01:57:49.750 --> 01:57:51.829
interacting with others and doing that together,

01:57:52.149 --> 01:57:56.130
but doing that right so that you don't just have

01:57:56.130 --> 01:57:59.199
them flounder and hate. working with others so

01:57:59.199 --> 01:58:00.479
that because it doesn't work because this person's

01:58:00.479 --> 01:58:02.859
not trying all this stuff um there should be

01:58:02.859 --> 01:58:05.340
a lot of thought and work into that so that that's

01:58:05.340 --> 01:58:08.060
a good experience and they they they experience

01:58:08.060 --> 01:58:10.939
the value of hey we pulled this together and

01:58:10.939 --> 01:58:12.300
look what we just accomplished like this was

01:58:12.300 --> 01:58:16.560
really impressive when i do movies i can't do

01:58:16.560 --> 01:58:18.439
although you see my name everywhere it looks

01:58:18.439 --> 01:58:20.659
like i did all of this stuff It's impossible

01:58:20.659 --> 01:58:24.220
to make a movie by yourself. Some of these movies,

01:58:24.260 --> 01:58:26.420
it looks like a city there. There's so many people.

01:58:26.640 --> 01:58:29.159
And every movie is really its own company that

01:58:29.159 --> 01:58:31.260
you're creating. It's its own. You're bringing

01:58:31.260 --> 01:58:32.859
all these people together. You're finding these

01:58:32.859 --> 01:58:34.939
experts and you're getting feedback from everyone.

01:58:34.979 --> 01:58:37.800
You're putting something special together. That

01:58:37.800 --> 01:58:42.760
is a skill that once you experience and go, you

01:58:42.760 --> 01:58:45.220
know what? It's better together than it is by

01:58:45.220 --> 01:58:50.380
myself. That realization is helpful. So that

01:58:50.380 --> 01:58:53.899
we are interested in community and doing this

01:58:53.899 --> 01:58:59.180
right. Like, I can be better off part of a community.

01:59:01.159 --> 01:59:04.500
And we need to experience that again. We really

01:59:04.500 --> 01:59:09.720
do. And this COVID has served as an excuse for

01:59:09.720 --> 01:59:14.000
those who had nefarious aims to push their agendas

01:59:14.000 --> 01:59:17.060
forward. And they absolutely have harped on it.

01:59:17.319 --> 01:59:21.060
Harped on it in a major way. And we've got to

01:59:21.060 --> 01:59:24.420
be very careful right now because that can't

01:59:24.420 --> 01:59:26.760
happen. We have to have community. We have to

01:59:26.760 --> 01:59:28.100
have freedom. We have to be able to assemble.

01:59:28.279 --> 01:59:30.479
We have to be able to speak. We have to protect

01:59:30.479 --> 01:59:32.960
each other's rights to say it, whatever it is.

01:59:33.460 --> 01:59:35.680
We have to have the freedom of religion and ideas.

01:59:36.460 --> 01:59:40.500
Full freedom. Full freedom. This idea that Congress

01:59:40.500 --> 01:59:45.140
will make no law establishing a religion or prevent

01:59:45.140 --> 01:59:49.279
the free exercise thereof. Which means they can't

01:59:49.279 --> 01:59:52.260
prevent the free exercise. You look at all these

01:59:52.260 --> 01:59:55.699
things, and there's a reason why we came up with

01:59:55.699 --> 01:59:58.640
this verbiage. There's what we were experiencing

01:59:58.640 --> 02:00:00.739
as a people before and throughout history, and

02:00:00.739 --> 02:00:04.319
these were well -educated people. Thomas Jefferson

02:00:04.319 --> 02:00:06.460
has the Thomas Jefferson education. It's a very

02:00:06.460 --> 02:00:09.100
well -documented mentor -based system he went

02:00:09.100 --> 02:00:13.500
through. Super educated. John Adams, he could

02:00:13.500 --> 02:00:17.119
talk in three different languages fluidly, age

02:00:17.119 --> 02:00:21.909
12. with you. These people, they would have a

02:00:21.909 --> 02:00:23.909
small library, but they had read every book and

02:00:23.909 --> 02:00:26.670
thought about what they read. There's no thought

02:00:26.670 --> 02:00:28.789
in what we're doing right now. It's like, we

02:00:28.789 --> 02:00:31.850
somehow want to say, just because you heard it,

02:00:31.869 --> 02:00:33.649
a fact, we got the fact into you and you can

02:00:33.649 --> 02:00:36.289
regurgitate it, that now you're a thinking person.

02:00:36.550 --> 02:00:38.930
I graduated from college. I'm educated. I could

02:00:38.930 --> 02:00:43.010
think. Not really. Just go back and rethink about

02:00:43.010 --> 02:00:45.109
how many papers did you really think about? Or

02:00:45.109 --> 02:00:46.670
did you just try to give back what that teacher

02:00:46.670 --> 02:00:49.319
wanted? We've been taught what to think. We've

02:00:49.319 --> 02:00:53.859
been taught how to express it. But there's a

02:00:53.859 --> 02:00:55.800
reason why the entrepreneurs who drop out from

02:00:55.800 --> 02:00:58.800
college are the standouts now, because they think.

02:00:59.479 --> 02:01:01.920
And so for those of us who went to college, it's

02:01:01.920 --> 02:01:03.760
like, okay, well, wait a second here. I also

02:01:03.760 --> 02:01:05.960
want to think, what do I need to do right now?

02:01:06.039 --> 02:01:09.479
Like, how do I really do this right? And it's

02:01:09.479 --> 02:01:12.619
a fun thing to explore. and realize, okay, I've

02:01:12.619 --> 02:01:14.659
got a lot of room to grow. And a lot of that

02:01:14.659 --> 02:01:17.260
great thinking happens while we exercise. Our

02:01:17.260 --> 02:01:20.979
brain's free. And so I'm a big fan of not listening

02:01:20.979 --> 02:01:23.439
to music while I exercise, listening to sounds

02:01:23.439 --> 02:01:25.140
of nature. Dr. Rady, when you interview him,

02:01:25.180 --> 02:01:27.560
will say that, that it's better for your brain

02:01:27.560 --> 02:01:31.359
to hear the dog barking and, whoa, is that a

02:01:31.359 --> 02:01:32.939
dog that's going to attack me than have it completely

02:01:32.939 --> 02:01:35.859
drowned out because you got the thumping of some

02:01:35.859 --> 02:01:37.560
music going through and you're just running along.

02:01:38.220 --> 02:01:40.060
or even on treadmill where you don't even think

02:01:40.060 --> 02:01:41.420
about anything. You don't have to worry about

02:01:41.420 --> 02:01:43.199
that. But if your brain has to do all this other

02:01:43.199 --> 02:01:48.279
work of situational awareness and you are doing

02:01:48.279 --> 02:01:50.500
something complex and you're moving and your

02:01:50.500 --> 02:01:52.460
heart's going, you're doing all of that together,

02:01:52.560 --> 02:01:54.819
well, man, you are building a super strong, resilient

02:01:54.819 --> 02:01:58.539
brain. And it's going to reward you with this

02:01:58.539 --> 02:02:02.039
beautiful chemical cocktail that's going to bless

02:02:02.039 --> 02:02:03.939
you in so many ways all throughout your life

02:02:03.939 --> 02:02:06.510
in every way. Beautiful. Well, I think that's

02:02:06.510 --> 02:02:09.529
the common theme and it's definitely the reason

02:02:09.529 --> 02:02:12.130
I started this podcast. It came out of six funerals

02:02:12.130 --> 02:02:15.729
I went to of firefighters. But when you take

02:02:15.729 --> 02:02:18.289
a step back and you think, like you said, rather

02:02:18.289 --> 02:02:20.529
than being fed information, you think and you

02:02:20.529 --> 02:02:24.130
look at the world we live in, especially this

02:02:24.130 --> 02:02:26.149
country we live in, and you look especially through

02:02:26.149 --> 02:02:27.829
a first responder's eyes and you ask yourself,

02:02:28.109 --> 02:02:31.470
the way we do it, is it making the streets safer?

02:02:31.960 --> 02:02:34.279
Are our people as healthy as they can be? You

02:02:34.279 --> 02:02:37.640
know, are we prepared, God forbid, if we get

02:02:37.640 --> 02:02:39.979
invaded? You know, and the answer is no, no,

02:02:40.039 --> 02:02:44.199
and no. And so it's time for us to say, look,

02:02:44.340 --> 02:02:46.439
the way you've done it, we've given it enough

02:02:46.439 --> 02:02:48.859
time. The same way as, you know, this two years,

02:02:48.979 --> 02:02:52.300
you know, a lot of people listened and we played

02:02:52.300 --> 02:02:54.399
that game and it's time to move on. It's time

02:02:54.399 --> 02:02:56.199
to change it. But with the health of the nation.

02:02:56.970 --> 02:02:59.229
the statistics show that it's been an epic failure.

02:02:59.310 --> 02:03:01.430
The way our food is processed, the way we eat,

02:03:01.470 --> 02:03:05.010
the way we move or don't move, our mental health

02:03:05.010 --> 02:03:08.510
kind of philosophies. So it's innovations that

02:03:08.510 --> 02:03:10.989
we need. But as you mentioned, it's really about

02:03:10.989 --> 02:03:13.949
going back to what people did. I mean, literally

02:03:13.949 --> 02:03:16.409
100 years ago is a great benchmark. The way our

02:03:16.409 --> 02:03:19.010
great grandparents ate, they moved, they were

02:03:19.010 --> 02:03:21.750
learning. The sense of community in the smaller

02:03:21.750 --> 02:03:24.689
towns back then, we need to refine that. And

02:03:24.689 --> 02:03:28.779
I think, you know, Looking at the way we do schools.

02:03:28.859 --> 02:03:30.420
And obviously, as you've talked about a lot in

02:03:30.420 --> 02:03:34.560
other conversations and in a documentary, there's

02:03:34.560 --> 02:03:36.319
an ownership in the house. And we're not talking

02:03:36.319 --> 02:03:40.520
about ignoring that, but creating that environment

02:03:40.520 --> 02:03:42.739
to thrive. And I talk about this. It's easier

02:03:42.739 --> 02:03:45.039
to point a finger at someone who's... out you

02:03:45.039 --> 02:03:46.640
know out of shape and be like well if you just

02:03:46.640 --> 02:03:48.739
ate well and you know the addicts or if you just

02:03:48.739 --> 02:03:51.359
stopped drinking you know yeah but it's the environment

02:03:51.359 --> 02:03:54.619
as well the environment the last two years the

02:03:54.619 --> 02:03:57.000
gyms were closed fast food and alcohol could

02:03:57.000 --> 02:03:59.739
be delivered to your house not an environment

02:03:59.739 --> 02:04:02.720
to encourage people to to choose healthily you

02:04:02.720 --> 02:04:05.300
know so in our schools when our kids are first

02:04:05.300 --> 02:04:07.460
learning and then as the multi -generation now

02:04:07.460 --> 02:04:11.090
you create probably a lot more intact households

02:04:11.090 --> 02:04:13.630
again that are teaching their children from day

02:04:13.630 --> 02:04:16.590
one how to move, how to eat. We have to start

02:04:16.590 --> 02:04:21.210
today because as you touched on, the only contributing

02:04:21.210 --> 02:04:24.050
factor that differentiated countries with this

02:04:24.050 --> 02:04:26.630
COVID epidemic was the underlying health of the

02:04:26.630 --> 02:04:28.409
nation. And if this isn't the biggest fucking

02:04:28.409 --> 02:04:31.510
red flag, then I don't know what is. Absolutely.

02:04:32.369 --> 02:04:35.090
You're absolutely right there. If I were going

02:04:35.090 --> 02:04:39.439
to try to destroy a society, Like, what would

02:04:39.439 --> 02:04:42.859
I do to really just destroy that society? Because

02:04:42.859 --> 02:04:45.859
it's hard. You know, if we were all physically

02:04:45.859 --> 02:04:47.340
healthy and everything's rocking and rolling,

02:04:47.539 --> 02:04:50.079
how could China come and take over the United

02:04:50.079 --> 02:04:52.859
States with 300 million people armed, right?

02:04:54.180 --> 02:04:56.619
Look at how well, no one's taken over Afghanistan,

02:04:56.960 --> 02:05:01.340
ever. You can't take over an armed people who's

02:05:01.340 --> 02:05:03.739
healthy. You just can't do it. They have to give

02:05:03.739 --> 02:05:07.079
up. How do you get someone to give up? because

02:05:07.079 --> 02:05:11.340
ultimately you still can't just take over. Well,

02:05:11.500 --> 02:05:15.659
one thing I would do is I would make it so they

02:05:15.659 --> 02:05:18.039
can't meet together anymore and have that interaction,

02:05:18.319 --> 02:05:20.760
right? There's no more community. I would make

02:05:20.760 --> 02:05:22.500
it so they're sitting around and they're just

02:05:22.500 --> 02:05:29.600
mentally not healthy by no physical movement

02:05:29.600 --> 02:05:33.140
anymore, right? I would definitely cover up the

02:05:33.140 --> 02:05:36.220
mask so that everyone's depersonalized. I would

02:05:36.220 --> 02:05:39.420
serve them junk food nonstop. I would serve them

02:05:39.420 --> 02:05:43.119
chemically mind -stimulating drugs. I would entertain

02:05:43.119 --> 02:05:46.159
them with absolutely nothing nonstop so that

02:05:46.159 --> 02:05:49.680
they just sit around and just like a little...

02:05:49.930 --> 02:05:52.289
I'm watching this TV. Ooh, it's a pretty ball.

02:05:52.369 --> 02:05:54.289
It's a pretty whatever. Oh, look at this. Hey,

02:05:54.409 --> 02:05:56.289
that's interesting. Someone's invading from another

02:05:56.289 --> 02:05:58.250
planet in this movie. There's an idea that I've

02:05:58.250 --> 02:06:00.609
never heard of before. That would be nonstop.

02:06:00.670 --> 02:06:02.210
I would do the same old thing, entertain him,

02:06:02.270 --> 02:06:07.210
and then lots of options like that. When you

02:06:07.210 --> 02:06:09.649
start going through this, it's pretty spooky

02:06:09.649 --> 02:06:13.689
because what we are actually doing in our society

02:06:13.689 --> 02:06:16.829
is exactly what you would do to destroy the society.

02:06:17.520 --> 02:06:20.560
I would financially task it to the point and

02:06:20.560 --> 02:06:22.920
I would just start printing money and sending

02:06:22.920 --> 02:06:26.539
so much out there that it's just mind -blowing

02:06:26.539 --> 02:06:29.359
per person what it would take. Do you realize

02:06:29.359 --> 02:06:33.079
right now, we talked about power of zero. And

02:06:33.079 --> 02:06:34.859
by the way, I make financial films and I make

02:06:34.859 --> 02:06:37.699
health films and they're just an A and B of the

02:06:37.699 --> 02:06:40.560
same coin. That's all those are. People, when

02:06:40.560 --> 02:06:46.119
you really look at this, you'll see it. The Committee

02:06:46.119 --> 02:06:49.420
for Responsible Budget back in 2015 looked at

02:06:49.420 --> 02:06:53.100
the question, can we solve our national debt

02:06:53.100 --> 02:06:57.539
deficit? The deficit. So there's the debt that

02:06:57.539 --> 02:06:59.060
we have, and then there's the deficit where we're

02:06:59.060 --> 02:07:02.600
missing. Can we solve that by taxing rich people?

02:07:03.119 --> 02:07:05.260
So they looked at people who make $400 ,000 or

02:07:05.260 --> 02:07:07.279
more, let's tax them. What would we need to tax

02:07:07.279 --> 02:07:10.720
them at? And they realized that they figured

02:07:10.720 --> 02:07:13.000
it all out, and you'd have to tax those individuals

02:07:13.000 --> 02:07:17.529
at $100 ,000. and 10 % of all their money. 110

02:07:17.529 --> 02:07:20.210
% per year. Go to LeBron James and say, hey,

02:07:20.210 --> 02:07:23.109
I want to take 110 % of your money. So not just

02:07:23.109 --> 02:07:25.630
all that you made this year, but 10 % more than

02:07:25.630 --> 02:07:28.050
that. You have to just, it's going to cost you.

02:07:29.319 --> 02:07:30.460
he's going to say, that sounds like something

02:07:30.460 --> 02:07:32.300
else from way back in the past, right? That sounds

02:07:32.300 --> 02:07:35.100
like slavery, but worse. That's like worse than

02:07:35.100 --> 02:07:36.840
slavery. I got to pay to be a slave. Right, I'm

02:07:36.840 --> 02:07:38.420
paying to be a slave. That's not going to work

02:07:38.420 --> 02:07:41.020
for me. And so then they're like, okay, that

02:07:41.020 --> 02:07:44.619
wouldn't work. Let's drop it down to those making

02:07:44.619 --> 02:07:48.180
$250 ,000 or more. And they found that, okay,

02:07:48.239 --> 02:07:53.760
we're only down to 92%. Gross tax. That doesn't

02:07:53.760 --> 02:07:55.439
work if you live in the state of California with,

02:07:55.520 --> 02:07:57.340
you know, those people with that economic bracket

02:07:57.340 --> 02:08:01.689
are paying. Maybe 8%, 10 % state tax, right?

02:08:02.409 --> 02:08:05.810
So that won't work. So then they looked at, okay,

02:08:05.970 --> 02:08:10.869
150 ,000 married, 150 ,000 filing joint. So basically,

02:08:10.970 --> 02:08:13.810
people make 150 ,000 a year as well as those

02:08:13.810 --> 02:08:16.590
who are filing joint, 150 ,000 a year. So a lot

02:08:16.590 --> 02:08:19.189
of people now. We're in a lot of people. You

02:08:19.189 --> 02:08:23.909
would have to tax them at a rate of 82%. 82%.

02:08:23.909 --> 02:08:26.229
This doesn't include your state tax. In order

02:08:26.229 --> 02:08:31.039
to... be balanced 10 years later in our national

02:08:31.039 --> 02:08:35.920
debt this was the year 2015 this was before covid

02:08:35.920 --> 02:08:39.739
this was before the trump tax cuts before all

02:08:39.739 --> 02:08:43.279
of that then back when the national debt was

02:08:43.279 --> 02:08:48.800
about 16 trillion not 30 so then like what do

02:08:48.800 --> 02:08:51.789
you do if we just can tax everybody Those guys

02:08:51.789 --> 02:08:54.069
making McDonald's, the 50 % who aren't paying

02:08:54.069 --> 02:08:57.970
any federal tax, it has to be a 52 % tax rate

02:08:57.970 --> 02:09:06.109
to solve the then stated deficit. Now, we've

02:09:06.109 --> 02:09:10.409
added, we've doubled our debt since then. And

02:09:10.409 --> 02:09:14.850
with every 1 % increase in interest that goes

02:09:14.850 --> 02:09:18.350
up, which, by the way, we're at an all -time

02:09:18.350 --> 02:09:21.840
low, but if we raise it 1%, Every 1 % is an additional

02:09:21.840 --> 02:09:24.960
$300 billion that we have to come up with in

02:09:24.960 --> 02:09:28.760
taxes for interest on that year. So if you were

02:09:28.760 --> 02:09:30.920
to raise it three, four points, five points,

02:09:31.100 --> 02:09:35.020
it's an additional trillion of taxes that we

02:09:35.020 --> 02:09:37.199
don't have. And you go look what we do. You realize

02:09:37.199 --> 02:09:41.369
we have a little bit of a problem. OK, it's such

02:09:41.369 --> 02:09:44.369
a problem that it's impossible to continue the

02:09:44.369 --> 02:09:46.829
direction we're going. It's why Obama and every

02:09:46.829 --> 02:09:49.109
president since and before and everybody looking

02:09:49.109 --> 02:09:53.050
at this question stated this is unsustainable.

02:09:54.210 --> 02:09:56.289
And then we have new presidential candidates

02:09:56.289 --> 02:09:58.729
always come in and they have a new idea. Let's

02:09:58.729 --> 02:10:00.590
give everyone free college. Let's make health

02:10:00.590 --> 02:10:05.010
care, Medicare for all. Let's do all. That's

02:10:05.010 --> 02:10:09.079
not. The solution. What we're talking about is

02:10:09.079 --> 02:10:11.539
the solution. This is something that actually

02:10:11.539 --> 02:10:15.300
gets to root cause and strips away the vast majority

02:10:15.300 --> 02:10:18.800
of it because we couldn't tax a person who's

02:10:18.800 --> 02:10:21.479
working minimum wage at McDonald's 52 % of their

02:10:21.479 --> 02:10:24.260
money. I don't think I could handle 52 % of my

02:10:24.260 --> 02:10:27.319
money going away. Yeah. How would that work?

02:10:27.520 --> 02:10:30.479
I mean, it would be really tough. So that's what

02:10:30.479 --> 02:10:32.479
it had to be in 2015. Today, if they were to

02:10:32.479 --> 02:10:33.880
do the same thing, I would always think about

02:10:33.880 --> 02:10:35.800
doing that and making a documentary on it. When

02:10:35.800 --> 02:10:37.199
I really looked at those numbers, I realized

02:10:37.199 --> 02:10:43.800
this is not a film that I should make. It's really,

02:10:43.840 --> 02:10:46.760
really bad. So instead, we should look at what

02:10:46.760 --> 02:10:48.979
can we do. And I really want to thank you for

02:10:48.979 --> 02:10:51.539
this interview because we've focused on here's

02:10:51.539 --> 02:10:54.640
what will actually. This is something that really

02:10:54.640 --> 02:10:58.579
will make a difference. How do we scale it fast?

02:10:58.840 --> 02:11:01.159
How do we scale it from the rest homes all the

02:11:01.159 --> 02:11:03.779
way down to the preschools, throughout the corporations,

02:11:03.979 --> 02:11:08.579
and most importantly, our individual lives? How

02:11:08.579 --> 02:11:12.399
do we do that? How do we make people love being

02:11:12.399 --> 02:11:14.890
a healthy person and decide? that that's their

02:11:14.890 --> 02:11:17.930
top value because it's the driver of everything

02:11:17.930 --> 02:11:21.689
else. And then the adaptation of it. You know,

02:11:21.729 --> 02:11:23.689
you have an injury. Well, you still need to do

02:11:23.689 --> 02:11:25.770
some exercise. Now, you won't be able to exercise

02:11:25.770 --> 02:11:27.250
that part of your body, but what can you do?

02:11:27.770 --> 02:11:31.069
And don't allow the excuses. I mean, there were

02:11:31.069 --> 02:11:33.449
people who just did things in their house when

02:11:33.449 --> 02:11:35.229
they couldn't go outside. They figured it out.

02:11:35.270 --> 02:11:37.470
They did what they needed to do. And they were

02:11:37.470 --> 02:11:39.750
resilient. They had good relationships. They

02:11:39.750 --> 02:11:43.699
went through. They flourished. threat um and

02:11:43.699 --> 02:11:45.819
then those that just use as an excuse to sit

02:11:45.819 --> 02:11:48.859
around and and it was it was endless caramel

02:11:48.859 --> 02:11:54.279
corn and and ice cream shakes and um they're

02:11:54.279 --> 02:11:57.460
not doing too great right now with that i want

02:11:57.460 --> 02:12:00.260
to thank you i mean we've we've had such a great

02:12:00.260 --> 02:12:03.779
conversation but genuinely like i i i think one

02:12:03.779 --> 02:12:05.479
of the best things that's come out the last few

02:12:05.479 --> 02:12:10.029
years it is you know podcasts documentaries this

02:12:10.029 --> 02:12:13.189
unfiltered channel where you can get good information

02:12:13.189 --> 02:12:15.989
of course every single one of us ultimately has

02:12:15.989 --> 02:12:18.270
some sort of agenda my agenda i hope is clear

02:12:18.270 --> 02:12:22.869
i hate people dying and being ill um but uh you

02:12:22.869 --> 02:12:24.189
know i think it's so important to have these

02:12:24.189 --> 02:12:27.689
conversations but the motivation factor every

02:12:27.689 --> 02:12:30.090
single human being needs to watch that full stop

02:12:30.489 --> 02:12:33.569
um the power of zero again when you tie in the

02:12:33.569 --> 02:12:35.449
the financial side it's funny because i started

02:12:35.449 --> 02:12:37.890
watching it first i'm like oh this is about money

02:12:37.890 --> 02:12:39.909
i'm not sure this is my then then the light bulb

02:12:39.909 --> 02:12:42.949
went off and i'm like oh wait a second the solution

02:12:42.949 --> 02:12:45.470
to this is exactly what we've discussed you know

02:12:45.470 --> 02:12:48.390
the the the impact of the ill health of the nation

02:12:48.390 --> 02:12:50.489
is the reason that we're so damn poor and at

02:12:50.489 --> 02:12:54.140
the you know at the uh propensity to join wars

02:12:54.140 --> 02:12:56.239
very easily and then you've got the whole pretty

02:12:56.239 --> 02:12:59.119
much the whole solution fasting was another fascinating

02:12:59.119 --> 02:13:01.220
one at least the first 30 minutes everyone should

02:13:01.220 --> 02:13:02.939
watch the first 30 minutes of fasting that's

02:13:02.939 --> 02:13:05.960
a prescription because that that we're looking

02:13:05.960 --> 02:13:11.979
at what happens when you don't eat at night and

02:13:11.979 --> 02:13:16.340
why if no one's listening the the the shortcut

02:13:16.340 --> 02:13:19.119
is think of it like a dishwasher our human body

02:13:19.119 --> 02:13:24.600
has a dishwasher and it It needs to have an empty

02:13:24.600 --> 02:13:28.079
gut to turn on for eight hours. So if your gut's

02:13:28.079 --> 02:13:29.979
been empty for eight hours, it'll turn on and

02:13:29.979 --> 02:13:33.119
it takes four hours to run. And that does the

02:13:33.119 --> 02:13:35.760
pre -cancer screening, taking out. It's regulating

02:13:35.760 --> 02:13:38.579
your blood sugars, your blood pressure. It's

02:13:38.579 --> 02:13:41.659
doing all of that. So all of the chronic illnesses

02:13:41.659 --> 02:13:44.659
kind of go away. If you happen to be a rat, they

02:13:44.659 --> 02:13:46.920
did all these studies. Just by doing that one

02:13:46.920 --> 02:13:50.500
thing. So there's a lifestyle adjustment that

02:13:50.500 --> 02:13:54.479
will make you feel super clean and great by just

02:13:54.479 --> 02:13:57.819
not eating basically after 6 o 'clock. I fell

02:13:57.819 --> 02:14:00.279
into that by accident. So after I transitioned

02:14:00.279 --> 02:14:02.659
out of the fire service and I was at home every

02:14:02.659 --> 02:14:04.939
day, which was also an adjustment because I was

02:14:04.939 --> 02:14:06.880
moving even less. The fire service, we're a lot

02:14:06.880 --> 02:14:09.699
more sedentary than we realize. We sit in the

02:14:09.699 --> 02:14:11.140
vehicles. We sit in the back of the ambulance.

02:14:11.239 --> 02:14:13.319
We sit doing reports. We sit doing online training.

02:14:13.619 --> 02:14:20.199
We sit a huge amount. But my day shifted where

02:14:20.199 --> 02:14:22.220
now, okay, every morning I can go to jiu -jitsu

02:14:22.220 --> 02:14:24.800
now. I can go to the CrossFit gym at the beginning.

02:14:25.000 --> 02:14:27.979
So, I was coming back at like 11 o 'clock and

02:14:27.979 --> 02:14:29.479
then starting to make food. And by the time I

02:14:29.479 --> 02:14:32.220
was eating, it was almost 12. And so, I was inadvertently

02:14:32.220 --> 02:14:36.119
having this 12 -hour window. And I noticed, A,

02:14:36.239 --> 02:14:38.619
my workouts were amazing on an empty stomach,

02:14:38.779 --> 02:14:41.199
you know. And B, you know, I wasn't getting as

02:14:41.199 --> 02:14:43.359
much bloating and kind of sluggishness. And,

02:14:43.399 --> 02:14:45.539
you know, I never, I always felt. intrinsically

02:14:45.539 --> 02:14:47.439
like it wasn't good to eat late i could just

02:14:47.439 --> 02:14:51.359
feel that in myself but um so yeah then you touched

02:14:51.359 --> 02:14:54.619
on it even with crappy food in that window they

02:14:54.619 --> 02:14:56.560
still saw benefits so then obviously the answer

02:14:56.560 --> 02:14:59.300
is well eat good food in that window and it makes

02:14:59.300 --> 02:15:01.920
more sense and you look kind of evolutionary

02:15:01.920 --> 02:15:04.939
at it with with natural daylight you're probably

02:15:04.939 --> 02:15:07.880
not pigging out at nine o 'clock at night in

02:15:07.880 --> 02:15:11.159
the winter so you know if anytime i question

02:15:11.159 --> 02:15:12.460
something i'm like all right what would we have

02:15:12.460 --> 02:15:14.909
done a thousand years ago exactly this just go

02:15:14.909 --> 02:15:17.289
backpacking and you'll experience it real fast

02:15:17.289 --> 02:15:19.689
like you get so much daylight it's all perfect

02:15:19.689 --> 02:15:22.430
you're super tired sun's going down you've already

02:15:22.430 --> 02:15:25.470
had dinner and you're just asleep sun goes out

02:15:25.470 --> 02:15:27.329
you're asleep you wake up 4 30 in the morning

02:15:27.329 --> 02:15:28.909
about an hour and a half before it's even light

02:15:28.909 --> 02:15:31.689
you're moving and you're not eating until you

02:15:31.689 --> 02:15:33.850
know you're done hiking a couple miles or three

02:15:33.850 --> 02:15:36.970
and it's perfect like it's just it ends up being

02:15:36.970 --> 02:15:40.529
perfect um but we're doing that all wrong a lot

02:15:40.529 --> 02:15:42.109
of people are eating that they're they're being

02:15:42.109 --> 02:15:44.859
told unfortunately by personal trainers who don't

02:15:44.859 --> 02:15:46.819
know better you know make sure you're eating

02:15:46.819 --> 02:15:49.260
something just before you go to sleep protein

02:15:49.260 --> 02:15:51.659
or whatever drink and then then eat a moment

02:15:51.659 --> 02:15:53.880
you wake up eat some food and then go hit the

02:15:53.880 --> 02:15:57.380
gym and like you know no uh you're gonna be you're

02:15:57.380 --> 02:15:59.199
gonna develop pre -diabetes and hyperglycemic

02:15:59.199 --> 02:16:01.039
and all kinds of problems by doing that you got

02:16:01.039 --> 02:16:03.560
too much going on that liver that liver does

02:16:03.560 --> 02:16:07.520
not want to and need to process that much that

02:16:07.520 --> 02:16:13.529
often so give it a break Yeah, so these are fundamental

02:16:13.529 --> 02:16:15.569
things that I've benefited from tremendously

02:16:15.569 --> 02:16:18.619
and not one idea is mine. And that's super important.

02:16:18.699 --> 02:16:21.159
I have a documentary film. I'm documenting those.

02:16:21.300 --> 02:16:23.720
I was the number one headhunter tech recruiter

02:16:23.720 --> 02:16:27.600
in the country, 95. So I focused on competitive

02:16:27.600 --> 02:16:29.899
intelligence. I got my master's in library science

02:16:29.899 --> 02:16:33.139
there in school. I became very good in intelligence

02:16:33.139 --> 02:16:34.940
and looking at it. I learned how to track industry

02:16:34.940 --> 02:16:37.040
experts based on their habits on the internet

02:16:37.040 --> 02:16:40.459
within the Unix world, pre -World Wide Web. I

02:16:40.459 --> 02:16:44.629
kind of followed that through afterwards. And

02:16:44.629 --> 02:16:48.170
so all my films are, as I'm identifying, you

02:16:48.170 --> 02:16:49.850
know, you hear me talk about classics for education,

02:16:50.090 --> 02:16:51.870
learning from the best people. Well, all that

02:16:51.870 --> 02:16:53.809
I'm really doing is identifying who really are

02:16:53.809 --> 02:16:56.469
the people who've demonstrated ideas that are

02:16:56.469 --> 02:16:58.209
really, you know, something we should look at

02:16:58.209 --> 02:17:01.649
and then synthesize those. And that's what the

02:17:01.649 --> 02:17:05.909
movie is. It's not Doug Orchard. It's not, you

02:17:05.909 --> 02:17:07.729
know, I don't actually have the high opinion

02:17:07.729 --> 02:17:09.930
of myself for a lot of good reasons. I mean,

02:17:09.950 --> 02:17:11.809
I know, you know, you live your own life. You're

02:17:11.809 --> 02:17:14.850
like, I'm not great. But these people have some

02:17:14.850 --> 02:17:18.090
really huge contributions. And so like you, you're

02:17:18.090 --> 02:17:22.569
trying to be a mouthpiece to a channel to share

02:17:22.569 --> 02:17:26.770
those ideas because those ideas and those individuals

02:17:26.770 --> 02:17:28.889
don't even have a voice and they're not ever

02:17:28.889 --> 02:17:31.370
going to for what they do. They're focused on

02:17:31.370 --> 02:17:35.790
what they're after. So as we as humans in a community

02:17:35.790 --> 02:17:39.850
spirit share these ideas with each other, and

02:17:39.850 --> 02:17:43.250
we say, oh, it's not science. Well, there's different

02:17:43.250 --> 02:17:46.309
levels of science, right? There's the question

02:17:46.309 --> 02:17:51.729
too. And what should science even look at? Is

02:17:51.729 --> 02:17:53.709
there something that's happening that we're seeing

02:17:53.709 --> 02:17:56.569
a recurrence of and it appears to be good? And

02:17:56.569 --> 02:17:59.569
for me, the nexus that's interesting that I make

02:17:59.569 --> 02:18:03.569
a movie of is where history has, we've shown

02:18:03.569 --> 02:18:05.709
through history, it's beneficial to maybe thousands

02:18:05.709 --> 02:18:08.489
and thousands of people, or maybe for thousands

02:18:08.489 --> 02:18:12.010
of years. And then science has now just discovered,

02:18:12.110 --> 02:18:13.809
oh, it turns out this is actually really beneficial

02:18:13.809 --> 02:18:16.909
scientifically. You know, when those things cross,

02:18:17.309 --> 02:18:20.229
when they're both going the same direction, that's

02:18:20.229 --> 02:18:22.889
a pretty safe thing to make a movie on that I

02:18:22.889 --> 02:18:25.610
know I got at least a decade or more run on.

02:18:26.129 --> 02:18:29.860
And it's a really interesting... place and it

02:18:29.860 --> 02:18:32.399
becomes very frustrating when we don't do it

02:18:32.399 --> 02:18:35.360
as a people. You know, we know everything we've

02:18:35.360 --> 02:18:38.879
talked about. These aren't theories. I mean,

02:18:38.899 --> 02:18:41.360
it's not a theory that the human being has to

02:18:41.360 --> 02:18:44.860
move. We see what happens when you become sedentary

02:18:44.860 --> 02:18:46.260
and lethargic. What happens to your brain? What

02:18:46.260 --> 02:18:47.600
happens to your mood? What happens to your spirit?

02:18:47.700 --> 02:18:49.520
What happens to your relationship with others?

02:18:49.620 --> 02:18:54.940
What happens to everything? And yet, this response

02:18:54.940 --> 02:18:58.069
from school is right now, for some reason, Sit

02:18:58.069 --> 02:19:00.350
more and more and more and more. And let's eliminate

02:19:00.350 --> 02:19:02.370
PE. Let's eliminate breaks. Do you know that

02:19:02.370 --> 02:19:05.670
the elementary school right here where I'm at,

02:19:05.850 --> 02:19:10.530
they have eliminated all breaks. They get a very

02:19:10.530 --> 02:19:13.549
short lunch and they get one 15 -minute break.

02:19:14.170 --> 02:19:16.610
They've eliminated all of them. I don't know

02:19:16.610 --> 02:19:19.049
what they're thinking. These are kindergartners.

02:19:19.709 --> 02:19:21.370
They're in there until 2 o 'clock in the day.

02:19:21.909 --> 02:19:24.069
There's no freaking way in the world if I had

02:19:24.069 --> 02:19:25.950
a child that age, which I don't, that I would

02:19:25.950 --> 02:19:30.420
actually... Do that to them. I don't know what

02:19:30.420 --> 02:19:32.899
they would end up like on the other end. It's

02:19:32.899 --> 02:19:38.780
not right. So we're going to have to become involved.

02:19:39.020 --> 02:19:41.100
We really are. We're going to have to become

02:19:41.100 --> 02:19:42.879
a little more involved in a loving community

02:19:42.879 --> 02:19:46.340
way to make differences. And you're right. The

02:19:46.340 --> 02:19:50.219
leaders right now, they're a big fail. And I

02:19:50.219 --> 02:19:52.219
have met with them, a lot of congressmen, everyone

02:19:52.219 --> 02:19:54.760
else. And I say, well, what drives the discussion?

02:19:54.940 --> 02:19:57.840
What drives the conversation? What happens behind

02:19:57.840 --> 02:19:59.959
that curtain? You know, like Wizard of Oz. What's

02:19:59.959 --> 02:20:01.959
going on behind that curtain when no one is looking?

02:20:02.440 --> 02:20:07.260
What's going on back there? And they say, the

02:20:07.260 --> 02:20:10.139
only thing that's discussed is what's been on

02:20:10.139 --> 02:20:14.059
the news the past three nights. That's it. There's

02:20:14.059 --> 02:20:17.159
no, hey guys, let's talk about this problem in

02:20:17.159 --> 02:20:19.319
our country. We've identified with this big budget

02:20:19.319 --> 02:20:21.420
we all have. We've identified these following

02:20:21.420 --> 02:20:23.700
needs. We need to do this. No, it's what's being

02:20:23.700 --> 02:20:26.829
discussed on the news. And so the news, of course,

02:20:26.850 --> 02:20:30.450
is corporate. Right. It's financially owned by

02:20:30.450 --> 02:20:32.889
six entities. And so they're driving they're

02:20:32.889 --> 02:20:34.809
driving the show. You got that. You got the lobbyist.

02:20:34.829 --> 02:20:37.370
And it's all unfortunately, you know, when we

02:20:37.370 --> 02:20:39.950
talk about health care, like FDA and Pfizer and

02:20:39.950 --> 02:20:41.909
and all those kinds of things tied together.

02:20:42.030 --> 02:20:44.709
Well, it's the same entities that are very involved.

02:20:44.889 --> 02:20:46.770
And the people at the top of all those are like

02:20:46.770 --> 02:20:48.389
bored. They're switching back and forth. And

02:20:48.389 --> 02:20:51.110
it's the same money involved. And and they're

02:20:51.110 --> 02:20:53.090
putting those people in political power. And

02:20:53.090 --> 02:20:55.329
it's a it's a really crappy situation that we're

02:20:55.329 --> 02:20:59.459
in. It really is. And so, one, we do need to

02:20:59.459 --> 02:21:01.319
understand and kind of open our eyes at that

02:21:01.319 --> 02:21:04.799
and just appreciate where we are. Two, support

02:21:04.799 --> 02:21:08.200
any kind of channel that allows for like what

02:21:08.200 --> 02:21:09.959
you're doing here, you know, to get a message

02:21:09.959 --> 02:21:14.799
out. And don't think that you're educated because

02:21:14.799 --> 02:21:18.540
you watched a major or standardized news. Those

02:21:18.540 --> 02:21:21.600
are gone now. It's all propaganda. It's all propaganda.

02:21:21.719 --> 02:21:24.879
It always has been. And it absolutely is today.

02:21:25.790 --> 02:21:28.690
So just kind of be aware of that. As a filmmaker,

02:21:28.909 --> 02:21:32.549
for The Motivation Factor, I sat in with, they

02:21:32.549 --> 02:21:35.729
had a couple major Hollywood people there as

02:21:35.729 --> 02:21:38.829
kind of a spiff to have your film at this Hollywood

02:21:38.829 --> 02:21:42.709
Film Festival. And they had Mel Gibson's, I don't

02:21:42.709 --> 02:21:44.389
remember the guy's name, but he was Mel Gibson's

02:21:44.389 --> 02:21:46.690
PR guy for The Passion of Christ. I remember

02:21:46.690 --> 02:21:50.670
that. He was in there. And he said, his advice

02:21:50.670 --> 02:21:55.610
was, never put in any of your movies something

02:21:55.610 --> 02:22:00.729
that would be derogatory to the news primary

02:22:00.729 --> 02:22:05.370
advertising sources. So think about like Big

02:22:05.370 --> 02:22:08.250
Pharma was the example he used. He goes, you

02:22:08.250 --> 02:22:11.049
know, Big Pharma represents 70 to 80 % of all

02:22:11.049 --> 02:22:15.690
the advertising money for the news. He says,

02:22:15.729 --> 02:22:19.389
so don't think that the news is going to cover

02:22:19.389 --> 02:22:23.979
your film. If you are speaking derogatory to

02:22:23.979 --> 02:22:27.440
them about them, he wasn't saying, hey, let's

02:22:27.440 --> 02:22:30.219
be nice to Big Pharma. He was just as speaking

02:22:30.219 --> 02:22:33.000
as a business to a business filmmaker. So business

02:22:33.000 --> 02:22:37.780
filmmakers know I can't have that bad stuff about

02:22:37.780 --> 02:22:42.079
them in my movies. Well, you just muzzled all

02:22:42.079 --> 02:22:45.479
your major journalistic guys unless they wanted

02:22:45.479 --> 02:22:48.129
to try to. create something like the motivation

02:22:48.129 --> 02:22:50.790
factor, put it out there and not get any major

02:22:50.790 --> 02:22:53.370
news. Well, who's going to pay for it? How are

02:22:53.370 --> 02:22:55.489
you going to get anyone to hear about it? And

02:22:55.489 --> 02:22:59.290
so you're wondering, well, how come this wasn't

02:22:59.290 --> 02:23:02.389
covered everywhere? You just start going through

02:23:02.389 --> 02:23:03.889
it and you can figure it out really quickly.

02:23:04.569 --> 02:23:07.829
And so we have a really difficult task ahead

02:23:07.829 --> 02:23:11.069
of us that only will be resolved if we individually

02:23:11.069 --> 02:23:14.969
experience this. And if we do, then we just kind

02:23:14.969 --> 02:23:17.739
of know. And then we share it and we go to their

02:23:17.739 --> 02:23:19.559
school boards and we just tell them, no, this

02:23:19.559 --> 02:23:20.979
has to change. You go to the corporation, this

02:23:20.979 --> 02:23:23.799
has to change. We put our foot down because it

02:23:23.799 --> 02:23:27.620
has to change. And I made the movie just so you

02:23:27.620 --> 02:23:31.040
know, Passion of Love. There wasn't an economic

02:23:31.040 --> 02:23:33.620
upside for me. Anybody put in the money, Ron

02:23:33.620 --> 02:23:36.680
Jones sunk 20K into it. I sunk money into it.

02:23:36.700 --> 02:23:38.959
We're all negative into it. We did it because

02:23:38.959 --> 02:23:41.700
we were hoping this would be a flag, a flag that

02:23:41.700 --> 02:23:44.440
could be waved. to kind of rekindle this thing

02:23:44.440 --> 02:23:46.739
and get it going again. So that's why we made

02:23:46.739 --> 02:23:50.040
this movie. It's my favorite movie. I don't think

02:23:50.040 --> 02:23:53.020
I'll ever make a movie I love more in that I

02:23:53.020 --> 02:23:58.760
think it was more pure in its purpose and all

02:23:58.760 --> 02:24:02.020
involved. They really got pretty heartfelt, and

02:24:02.020 --> 02:24:04.159
there's a lot of people involved in that movie.

02:24:04.239 --> 02:24:06.100
So it was a great experience. So thank you for

02:24:06.100 --> 02:24:07.840
allowing me to share a little bit about it. Well,

02:24:07.860 --> 02:24:09.819
thank you for making it. So for people listening,

02:24:10.000 --> 02:24:12.360
where can they find the films? And then, you

02:24:12.360 --> 02:24:13.860
know, where's the best central location online

02:24:13.860 --> 02:24:18.100
to learn more about you? Well, my site is dougorchard

02:24:18.100 --> 02:24:21.860
.com. And I do have links to much of my films

02:24:21.860 --> 02:24:23.860
there. You could also look at all my, if you

02:24:23.860 --> 02:24:26.780
look me up in IMDB database, that's the movie

02:24:26.780 --> 02:24:32.049
database. So IMDB. You can just look me up and

02:24:32.049 --> 02:24:34.209
you'll see anything I'm linked to. I have made

02:24:34.209 --> 02:24:37.190
some films that aren't on my site linked to because

02:24:37.190 --> 02:24:41.049
I was just like a director or whatever. And then

02:24:41.049 --> 02:24:44.270
for the motivation factor, you could look on

02:24:44.270 --> 02:24:47.829
iTunes or Amazon or Google Play or Real House.

02:24:48.850 --> 02:24:51.530
That's the primary place to find that. Fasting,

02:24:51.530 --> 02:24:56.500
you could look at on Amazon or... on Real House

02:24:56.500 --> 02:25:00.100
or at Gia Network, G -I -A. It plays free there.

02:25:00.340 --> 02:25:02.120
It's a subscription model kind of company. It

02:25:02.120 --> 02:25:03.920
used to be on free on Amazon Prime, but for some

02:25:03.920 --> 02:25:05.979
reason, they now charge rent. It's not a lot.

02:25:05.979 --> 02:25:09.620
It's like two bucks or something. I can't control

02:25:09.620 --> 02:25:11.360
what the platforms do with my films once they're

02:25:11.360 --> 02:25:16.040
up there, by the way. So, they just do what they

02:25:16.040 --> 02:25:19.059
want to do with your movies. Well, I just want

02:25:19.059 --> 02:25:21.860
to say thank you. I mean, like I said, the films

02:25:21.860 --> 02:25:25.969
themselves really opened my eyes. you know the

02:25:25.969 --> 02:25:28.870
the proactive preventative element is what we

02:25:28.870 --> 02:25:31.209
need to hear they're all articulated so well

02:25:31.209 --> 02:25:33.290
and if you watch all three and as you said they

02:25:33.290 --> 02:25:35.290
all interlink i mean it's it's it's incredible

02:25:35.290 --> 02:25:37.909
but also just being so generous we've talked

02:25:37.909 --> 02:25:41.629
i think over two hours now um and uh yeah it's

02:25:41.629 --> 02:25:43.090
been an incredible conversation i'm going to

02:25:43.090 --> 02:25:44.870
put this out very very quickly because people

02:25:44.870 --> 02:25:47.090
need to hear it so thank you for coming on the

02:25:47.090 --> 02:25:48.809
podcast thank you thank you very much